1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: Casey. This is the segment where I have so many questions. 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 2: Okay, let's see if we can't get you some answers. 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: All right, So the first question I have, there's this 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: article in Indie Star. Who wrote this article, his name 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: is John toohoy two he tuhy, Sorry John if I'm 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: mispronouncing your name. But the title is this PACER's G 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: League arena won't break even some years. Why Noblesville leaders 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: aren't concerned? 9 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: Okay? 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: And this is about this big what was it like, 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: thirty six thirty seven million dollar mostly taxpayer funded monstrosity 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: that the Pacers G League team is going to play in. 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: Now they were the mad Ants. What are they? The 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: boom or the Yeah, the boom. Now they're gonna play 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: in Noblesville. And this article goes through how this thing, 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: this venue itself. According to the people that he talked to, 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: they admit it will not break even on multiple years, 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: even by the best projection. But the city of nobles 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: I was trying to say, it doesn't matter because of 20 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: all the other stuff it will bring in. And this 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: has been my question for years. Is my question as 22 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: an elected person, and now it's been a question as 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: a media member. As these facilities have grown, be they 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,919 Speaker 1: arenas for G League teams, be they these little league monstrosities, 25 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: be they rec centers, be they lazy river swimming pools, 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: whatever the thing that the taxpayers pay for in these communities, 27 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: because they're always told of what an economic development driver 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: it will be. If these things are so great and 29 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: they're having such a positive economic development impact, why do 30 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: so many of these communities that have them, Why have 31 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: they never had higher taxes? H This is where you answer, 32 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: I don't. 33 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: Know the answer to that. Rob the thing. 34 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: Okay, So they're saying, what it's not going to pay 35 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: for itself with the Boom games or anything ever. 36 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: Understanding of this is that because they're a tenant, the 37 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: boom are a tenant, but there will be other things 38 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: going on there. 39 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 40 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: But they're trying to say, oh, well, because of all 41 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: this investment or all these things that are going to 42 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: go up around it. Okay, but then why do so 43 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: many of these places who have these things the municipal 44 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: tax rates are very high. Oh and on top of that, 45 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: all their school systems have these school referendums because they 46 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: can't pay the bills. If there's all this great corporate investment, 47 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: all this commercial development going on. 48 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: It should lower the cost of everything else. 49 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: Well, yes, why can't these people pay their bills? And 50 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 1: why then does a place like where I live, where 51 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: we have fought these things Brownsburg? Why is in one 52 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: of the few communities, certainly of its size, with the 53 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: supposed number one school system. There's one of the few 54 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: places without a school referendum. 55 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 3: Right, they say that it's expected to be a catalyst 56 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: for future investment in the area. So it's not gonna 57 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 3: pay for itself now, uh huh, but maybe in thirty 58 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: yeah years. 59 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: Well doesn't that sound familiar? Yeah, like, uh, what's it? Uh? Oh? 60 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: Data centers? Right, I know, all the freebies that we're 61 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: giving away. See, this is where it's people. These politicians 62 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: recognize that people will see the headline and they don't 63 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: understand how the system works. And the reality is, when 64 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: it comes to municipal governments, property taxes are the primary driver. 65 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: That is what the local community gets. Sales tax, unless 66 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: it's food and beverage, it means nothing. Your community gets 67 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: basically nothing off of sales tax that goes to the state. 68 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: So this, oh, it'll create all this business, it'll create 69 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: this commerce. That doesn't mean anything to you as a 70 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: resident of that place in terms of what you're asked 71 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: to pay every single day. And so if you're investing, 72 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: because now so much of it's cash, it's not just hey, 73 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna give you an abatement. There's some sort of 74 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: cash layout or cash giveaway, or we're paying to build 75 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: the thing. Well, if you're thirty six thirty seven million 76 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: in the hole, you got to make up unless you're 77 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: getting applicable property tax that goes up around that. Well, 78 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: most of these buildings that'll go up around it are 79 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: going to get the three percent. They're going to get 80 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: the abatements for ten years. It'll be ten years before 81 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: they pay the three percent. It's going to take decades 82 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: for that thing to ever pay off. Well, no offense, 83 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: I might not be here in decades. 84 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: Did you see that Ron DeSantis is now advocating for 85 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: the nationwide abolition of property taxes altogether. 86 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: Well, and I saw Texas as having some sort of 87 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: special session called in by their governor to directly address 88 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: property taxes. But my question is the thing that nobody 89 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: can answer to me, And I keep asking this, if 90 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: the growth is so good in any of these places. 91 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: Why have our property taxes never been higher? Why are 92 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 1: all of these schools claiming they can't pay their bills 93 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: without a referendum? Of all these high density housing developments 94 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: are so great. If all of this, you know, like 95 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: Wiley but warehouse in every corner is driving society, then 96 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: why And then think about all the local taxes, the 97 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: wheel tax, you know, these food and beverage taxes. Why 98 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: do we keep having to have all of these taxes 99 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: If the developments that are coming into these places are 100 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: so great, and if these whether it's a little legue, 101 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: the complexes, the rec centers, the lazy rivers, these arenas 102 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: the hockey thing in Fishers, why can't we get the 103 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: property taxes under control if these are such great economic 104 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: development driver? 105 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: Oh? 106 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 3: Because this government and it's snowballs, rob, it just keeps 107 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: growing and growing. 108 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: Oh so you did answer the Okay, so you've answered 109 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: the first question. So right, and I get nobody people 110 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: are always like you're just against you're just against growth. No, 111 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm for growth that helps the people that live there. 112 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: You know why, because I've I've not only talked this talk, 113 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: I've walked this walk. Hey, raise your hand, if you 114 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: cut property tax rates eighteen and a half percent in 115 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: four years. Oh, hey, that's me. Raise your hand. If 116 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: you passed, at the time the largest voluntary property tax 117 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: rate reduction in the history of the state. Oh that's me. 118 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: Oh I'm the one raising my hand. So see, I 119 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: get to comment on this. And the reality is that 120 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: if you are not. If whatever development it is, I 121 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: always used to look at it. This development, this thing, 122 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: be it a housing development or commercial development, is it 123 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: lowering the cost of people living in this community. If 124 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: the answer is yes, then we got a conversation. If 125 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: the answers no, then you have to tell these people 126 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: to smooch both of your butt cheeks and say thank you, 127 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: have a nice life. Give that to someone else, and 128 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: I'll let them brag about their bright, shiny object and 129 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: we'll just keep the low taxes and affordable living. 130 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 3: Yeah no, because instead of giving you any of your 131 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: money back, they're going to find something else to spend 132 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 3: it on. And then once that's there, it's got to 133 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: keep growing and growing and growing. 134 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: You know that. Okay, very good, So we've answered that. 135 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: So I'm not out in left field on being the 136 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: one guy because they always like, like your anti growth, 137 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: you're anti progress, You're blah blah blah, and it's saying, no, 138 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm just for my people. And if my people, if 139 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: the people, if they're cost of living is not more affordable, 140 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: then why would I want them to subsidize something that 141 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: someone else is going to use. It'd be one thing 142 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: if hey, the the not the mad ass the boom 143 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: have decided, of all places, Noblesville is the perfect place 144 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: to set up our roots. And they've bought this land 145 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: and they're gonna build this arena and it's gonna pay 146 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: the property tax. Okay, cool, great, good luck, wish you 147 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: the best. Thanks for the check you're writing every single year. 148 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: Let us know what we can do to help you 149 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: in terms of promoting that the new team is here. 150 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: But that's not the way this is working. The taxpayers 151 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: on these mixed use developments, on these arenas, on these 152 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: lazy rivers, on these little ly complexes, on these these 153 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: rec centers, they always do the cash out lay, which 154 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: means everything else decades is about catching up. It's decades 155 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: of catching up for the cash out lay, the expense 156 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: and what forty years from now, well, most of us 157 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: an't even gonna be live anymore forty years from now. 158 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 3: So right, boops, it didn't work out, right, Well, you could, 159 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: I don't know. Can I have the president come in 160 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: and say, you know what, either give the money. 161 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: Back or change your name or know something, because because 162 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: that's what he was doing over the weekend. 163 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: Yes. So Trump is very focused on the Indians again, 164 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: and the and the and the Red red Skins, right, 165 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: so Trump not wrong. Trump is very adamant that the 166 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: Cleveland Indians should be renamed, should change their name to 167 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Indians, and that the Washington Redskins what are 168 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: They're the Commanders now the Indians are the Guardians major 169 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: League baseball team, which is a stupid name, right, where 170 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: did that come back? I'm stupid? And the at least 171 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: the Commanders is like a decent although I kind of 172 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: like Washington football team. I thought that was kind of 173 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 1: kind of cool. I thought it was better than Commanders. 174 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 2: U huh. 175 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because we are seeing a societal shift 176 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 1: away from political correctness to where somebody pointed out how 177 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: four or five years ago Nike's ad campaign was that 178 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: Dylanville Milvaney. 179 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: Do Dylan mlvaney in a sports bra and now it's 180 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 3: Scottie Shuffler with his son Bennett. 181 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: And so it's okay to admit we made a mistake. 182 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: People actually didn't care about the name. They didn't actually 183 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: want the name change. We listened to a couple of 184 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: really loud barkers in the room, and we've recognized this 185 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: is our franchise, this is our history, the same way 186 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: as the Indianapolis Indians aren't offending anyone. The Cleveland Indians 187 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: and the famed logo of the old Chief not offending 188 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: other than about three percent of the population. And tell 189 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: those people that eat it. 190 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: Well, now let's Trump, Trump saying he's going to block 191 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: the new Washington stadium deal good for unless the team 192 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: returns to the red Skins name. I don't think he 193 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 3: really has any control over that. 194 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: Well, if there's federal money going to it, who knows. 195 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: I mean, isn't the president. I know there's a mayor 196 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: of Washington, d C. But isn't the president technically in 197 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: some capacity sort of above the mayor of Washington, d C. 198 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: In the greater Washington area some capacity is sort of 199 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: the guy? All right, we take a break. This is 200 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: the hour of questions. Now I have questions about an 201 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: application that was brought to my attention and an online 202 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: resource that was brought to my attention, And I don't 203 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: know is this legitimate? Is this? Should I be alarmed? 204 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: Is this a stooge test? Should I? We won't name 205 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: any names or something going to protect the innocent, but 206 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: I have questions about what's going on on the internet. 207 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: It's Kennelly Casey. It's ninety three WYBC. 208 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 4: It's just like the perfect intro to this who we're 209 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 4: about to talk about because I have questions But Kevin, 210 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 4: I don't know if you know this, But Kat Stevens, 211 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 4: by the way, it's Kennlly Casey show. 212 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: I'm Rob, that's Casey. Kat Stevens is one of those 213 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: dudes who has in I mean Kat Stephens window. You 214 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: were there. You know this better than I do. His 215 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: window of relevance was relatively short. It was like early seventies. 216 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: There's like a three or four year window where he 217 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: was just totally on fire, and then much of it, 218 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: through his own own actions or whatever, he kind of 219 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: just walked away. I think the music scene changed, but 220 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: there's like a three or four year window where it 221 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: was Cat Stevens and Bread the fastest way to get 222 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: women to remove their underwear and throw it in your 223 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: general direction was to play Cat Stevens or Bread Well. 224 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 3: He had a near drowning experience in nineteen seventy seven, 225 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 3: and then after that he left the music industry in 226 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: seventy eight after he did some deep personal searching. 227 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had an interesting life after that, and 228 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: then I think he has since come back and does 229 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: regular concerts now and is under a new name. But 230 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: everybody knows you're going to see Cat Stevens and Cat. 231 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: My point though, to you is most women you will 232 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: engage with on the various dating apparatuses, they will have 233 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: no idea that Cat Stevens has said any of this, 234 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: and so you just start stealing Cat Stevens lines and 235 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: they will just eat that. The sentimentality. I mean, you and. 236 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 3: Kevin to walk up to a woman and say, ooh baby, 237 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: it's a wild world. 238 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: No, I mean, I'm just saying it hard to get 239 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: by on if I just smile. See, you're trying to 240 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: be dismissive of this, and I'm gonna I'm gonna say, 241 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: if you take these out of the context of the 242 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: music and you just start saying it. Uh, now that 243 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: I've lost everything to you, you say you want to 244 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: start something new, and it's breaking my heart. You're leaving baby, 245 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm grieving. I mean, that's just incredibly He was basically 246 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: Kevin crone In ten years before there was a Kevin Cronin. 247 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean, when when Kevin Cronin was still screwing around 248 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: in Tarohote, Indiana getting ario speedwagon off the ground and 249 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: the greater, the greater Ellen Eastern Illinois area. Uh, this 250 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: was cat Stephen was turning heads and and and impressing chicks. 251 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: So I'm just telling you that you can do that. Okay, 252 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: all of that being said, here's here's why, Uh I'm 253 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: asking this. There. You know me, I don't know much 254 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: about how the internet works. Sure, I mean I can 255 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: get on the websites. I can my thumbs operate properly 256 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: to make what I think are pithy and sometimes hilarious 257 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: commentaries on society and the social media apps. But I 258 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: have no idea what's what's out there. And it has 259 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: come to my attention several people have sent this to 260 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: me that a person that I have had encounters with 261 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: this who will not name, but I just have I 262 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: have no idea how this works. Is there's allegedly a 263 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: is it a Facebook group? Is that what it is? 264 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: Are we dating the same guy? 265 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: Are we dating the same guy? Now? Tell me how 266 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: this works. It's getting so hard to be a sneak nowadays. 267 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: Case, it's getting very hard. You get cold played real quick. 268 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: Okay, so it's a It is a network of over 269 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 3: two hundred local Facebook groups, originally started in New York 270 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: City in March of twenty two. 271 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, wait, they've sort of combined like this 272 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: is like Captain Planet the cartoon, where they've combined their 273 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: rings into one super Facebook group. 274 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: Well, you have those chapters, Yes, there are chapters. It's 275 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 2: a good way. 276 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: So it could be like an Indianapolis chapter. 277 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: Yes, there is, based on location. 278 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 3: I believe it's what Indianapolis, Bloomington, Lafayette. 279 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm asking you. I didn't even know 280 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: this thing existed until this weekend. 281 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it is. 282 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So what happens because I don't understand. I'm watching 283 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: people converse about this person, who, what I guess, is 284 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: allegedly engaging in social commerce with more than one individual. 285 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: Is that what I'm that's what it looks like. 286 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: So the app was intended or the I guess the 287 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 3: face of the group. 288 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: It's a group. 289 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: The group it. 290 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 3: Was intended as kind of a whisper network for safety 291 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: where women can share their different experiences. So if you 292 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: don't warn each other about any potential red flags. 293 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: So if you go on a date with someone and 294 00:14:54,120 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: you're like, something's off about Harold. I think there's some 295 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: holes in Harold's story. I think he might be engaging 296 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: in meaningful social interaction with someone else. You can put 297 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: Harold's picture up. 298 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't use any personal info like addresses or 299 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: contact details, and you can put their picture up. 300 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: Though then these now this is what I don't understand. 301 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: These people's names. Like on Facebook, the Kevin McNamara facebook page, 302 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: it's Kevin's name, there's a photo of him. I can 303 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: judge whether that's Kevin's or I can click on his 304 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: profile like it's if he's a real part. You can't 305 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: do that with these people. There's no picture, there's. 306 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: Just well you can't do a screenshot. You can put 307 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: their picture up. 308 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: No, I'm saying that the people commenting, Oh right. 309 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 3: The people commenting, So they have to go through a 310 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: process to get approval to join the group. Okay, so 311 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 3: they have to fill out some information and the administrators 312 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: of the are we dating the same guy will go 313 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 3: through and either approve you or not approve you. 314 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: Okay, So there's someone who vets the people who want 315 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: into the thing. 316 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: Correct. 317 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: Now My question is what is the possibility of someone 318 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: just making up a profile and saying I'm engaging with 319 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: this person? Is anyone else engaging with this person? And 320 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: then they create either they create multiple anonymous accounts. Let's 321 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: say somebody owed you fifty dollars, right and you were 322 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: enraged over they owed you fifty dollars and weren't paying 323 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: it back. Could you create these anonymous accounts and then 324 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: throw this out there in an effort to harm the 325 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: person in question. 326 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: Well, you're not supposed to be able to do that 327 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 3: because it's all supposed to be vetted by the administration. 328 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 3: And critics argue that these groups they can promote what 329 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: you're talking about, doxing or harassment or defamation. There was 330 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: actually a lawsuit in California. You remember that man who 331 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: sued fifty women for two point six million dollars over defamation. 332 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: There was because out they outed him on this page. 333 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: Yep. 334 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 3: There was also an instance in Cleveland where a man 335 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 3: sued Meta after being described as creepy and that his 336 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,479 Speaker 3: personal or family information was shared. 337 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: So how would I determine then if this is legitimate 338 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: or not? Because people send me things all the time, 339 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: and a lot of times they'll just go in a 340 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: file folder and I'll leave them there and I get 341 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: through things when I can, and I you know, we 342 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: call it the stuge test, right, Sometimes I think I'm 343 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: being set up with the Stoge test, where people will 344 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: throw things at me to see if I'll take the 345 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: bait on something. 346 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: Right. 347 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: However, multiple people have sent me this thing who I 348 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: cannot find connections to each other. But then that's now 349 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: the next step of the stage test is is there 350 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: some way this person could be they ose somebody at 351 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: candy bar fifty dollars or and then just in these 352 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: these people are enraged and they're trying to set this 353 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: person up for. 354 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 3: Not supposed to be according to this group, right, that's 355 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 3: not supposed to be how this works. It's supposed to 356 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 3: be a response to risks, you know, meeting people online. 357 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: So if somebody is doing a stooge test. They're breaking 358 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 3: their own rules. 359 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: See, this is why my life centers around. I go 360 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: to the Rby's and then back to my secure abode 361 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: every day. So everyone you know that needs to find 362 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: me for any reason, they would know, they know where 363 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: you are, where I'm at right and that way, if 364 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: I were to owe somebody fifty bucks or candy bar 365 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: or whatever, that wouldn't be logical that that could be happening. 366 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: But you're saying this is a legitimate thing in which 367 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: there is some sort of vetting. Do they have to 368 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: give they're supposed to be Are they spposed to be 369 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: giving details? Though? Like you know, I went on a 370 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: date with Jerry and we went to the movie and 371 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: then Jerry took me to his apartment. It's such and 372 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: such a location or the motes, that's just it. 373 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 3: You're not like you could say, yeah, Jerry and I 374 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: went to a movie. Here's his picture. Does anybody recognize 375 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: him as being who he's not saying he is? 376 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: Okay, now the other But if you say, Jerry. 377 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 2: Smith took me to the movie and then we went 378 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: back to. 379 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 3: His place at you know, one, two three Main Street, 380 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 3: Well that's not allowed. They can't use last name or address. 381 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: See here's what got me though. This appeared to be 382 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: the picture that they were using. And again, I don't 383 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: understand how any of this works. I'm trying to learn. 384 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get hip to how the kids are 385 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: doing things these days. 386 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: Sure your wife appreciates it. Why are you investigating? I 387 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: told her. 388 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: I told her we were going to talk about it. 389 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: She's fully aware. The picture of this person they were 390 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,719 Speaker 1: using appears to be off a dating site of some sorts. Okay, 391 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: I asked Kevin. We will not name the dating site, 392 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: but Kevin has some miliary. Areitay with this picture or 393 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: this this dating site? My point is, shouldn't you have 394 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: to have a photo of the person on the date, 395 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: so you know you were engaged in some sort of 396 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: social interaction with that person, like say. 397 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: She Per their own rules, you're not supposed to be 398 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 3: using screenshots. And that sounds to me like that is 399 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: a red flat right, Like it's a screenshot that they took. 400 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you should need to have a photo of yourself. 401 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: Larry and I went to the Indians game, and then 402 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: you should have to like provide some sort of photo 403 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: that you and Larry were at the event together, right, 404 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: because you could ruin somebody's reputation on that. 405 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: Well, right, and that's this group has been sued in 406 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 2: the past. 407 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so people are sitting that, what do you 408 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: want me to do with this? 409 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: Right? 410 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: Like, I'm not an investigative journalist. We need other people 411 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: to break the news, and then we comment on the 412 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: news that they're breaking. That's how it works here. 413 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: Sure we could try that avenue. 414 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: So okay again, So I should Okay, I should What 415 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: should I do with this? Should I just be? Like, 416 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: there's too much possibility that this is some sort of 417 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: huge test Shenanigan's let it go. I should. 418 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 2: I don't have. 419 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: Time to do more research on this. I should just 420 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: hold I should be this should be in the file, 421 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: that's in the holding pattern. Yeah, forget about it until someone. 422 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 3: I think you need to tuck that one away, Okay, 423 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 3: until somebody else finds some more concrete evidence. 424 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 1: I just did. I didn't know what any of it. 425 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: People are sending me this. 426 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: And it was like, and even if you found it, 427 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: what are you going to do with it? 428 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: Well, right, it's none of my business. 429 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 2: Right, somebody wants to step out or if they're I mean. 430 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: That's right. It's soe of my business. I'm too focused 431 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: on keeping you in line. 432 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 3: It's true talking about stepping out. We have to mention 433 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: what happened with that astronomer CEO, you know, the guy 434 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 3: who got Cold Played. 435 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 1: Oh good teas there, that's very well done. 436 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 2: It is Kenderlly Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 437 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: This is the only Cold Play song I know? 438 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: Is it really? 439 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? You know? For me, like, if it happened after 440 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: what was rain on the Scarecrow? Was that eighty six 441 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: eighty seven? I believe whatever that was, that was sort 442 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: of it for me. If it happened after that, I'm out. 443 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: That's when you stopped listening to new music. 444 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: By the way, I told you, we've gotten into every 445 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: so often letting my toddler see nineties rap and hip 446 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: hop videos of the family friendly variety, and that she 447 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: executed the jump from Criss Cross perfectly and was awesome. 448 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: So we had it on and then the other day 449 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: an mc hammer video comes on and my wife looks 450 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: at me and goes, who's that? Oh no, And I said, well, 451 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: let me tell you a story there, little lady, And 452 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: I had to explain She's like, I like, his pants 453 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 1: is the whole thing, and I had to explain the 454 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: So she was like he was a big deal. It 455 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: was like he was the deal to six year old 456 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: Rob Kendall or seven or whatever it was. Mc hammer 457 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: was the deal. Everyone had the too Legit to Quit album. 458 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: You wanted the parachute pants your parents would not get you. 459 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: As a child in a small suburban community, the parachute 460 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: pants never had any but you had. Everybody had some 461 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: colorful pants that they put on and they would pretend 462 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: they were the parachute pants. And then I had to 463 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,719 Speaker 1: explain the fall of mc hammer and then how he 464 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: turned into like a gangster wrapper and then that didn't 465 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: work out. And then somehow we got on Vanilla Ice 466 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: and that was a hole. Didn't know that was either 467 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: she know he's. 468 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 2: A carpenter now in Florida. What yeah, no. 469 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: Way, yeah way, Robert van Winkle Vanilla Ice. 470 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: Yes. 471 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: I thought it was on like a bunch of reality shows. 472 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: I thought that's what he did now as a carpenter. 473 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like fix his houses. 474 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: No kidding. Yeah, yeah, So we went through that whole thing. 475 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: But anyway happened after about nineteen eighty six, eighty seven, whatever, 476 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: Rain on the Scar. I think the Rain of the 477 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: Scarecrow was the last of the great albums. That was 478 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: sort of like the last of the great I don't know, 479 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: Joshua Tree, that's eighty seven. That was wrong? Anyway, point 480 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: is all this new stuff. So I know that song 481 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: because it's on the radio all the time. Right, But 482 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: can you name how many cold Play songs? Could you name? 483 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: Clocks who Yellow? 484 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 3: Oh? 485 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: These are different songs? 486 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, those are the two. I mean, I could probably 487 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: sing along more. 488 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: I just don't know the title. 489 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: They strike me. And if you're a concert, if you're 490 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: a could like as a media. 491 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 2: Member or no as a fan. 492 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you only know two or three songs. 493 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 3: Well that's what I'm saying. I can't tell you the 494 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 3: title of this song, but I could sorong with it. 495 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. They strike me as the sort of guys that 496 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: are famous for being famous, Like they don't have a 497 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: laundry list. Do they have a laundry list? An encyclopedia 498 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: of hits where you would say, Wow, that moved the 499 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: masses at a moment in time, Kevin, They've gotten impressive cattle. 500 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: They do because the rule is if you have three 501 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: mega hits, you're a three hits, You're a mega deal. 502 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: Oh, they're a mega deal, Lvida. Sure. 503 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: I bet they have maybe six songs that everyone knows 504 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: no kidding. 505 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 2: Sky full of Stars. 506 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: Okay, because it seems like all. 507 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 3: These concerts, the scientist, I don't know any of these 508 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 3: other one. 509 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: You would know it if you heard it. 510 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: No, probably not, No, you probably would. I think you're 511 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,239 Speaker 1: underestimating how little I know what's going on. 512 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: I think you know. 513 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 3: I remember when they first came out because I was 514 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: pregnant with my daughter and I was painting her bedroom 515 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 3: yellow and their song Yellow was very popular at the time. 516 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: Because it seems like there's a lot of people at 517 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: these concerts, like, for example, they're not playing the Vogue there. 518 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: They would be playing Gainbridge House if they came here. Yeah, okay, 519 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: So obviously Coldplay is in the news because this CEO 520 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: and his his HR. Do we call her an HR mistress? 521 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 2: What do we refer to her as paramore? 522 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: Do we know for the fact that they were actually 523 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: engaged in a relationship. Have we ever determined what was 524 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: actually going on there? 525 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 3: Well, I've seen other video of them, not the one 526 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 3: that everybody, it's from the backside. Uh huh, and it's 527 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 3: a much larger, longer shot. They were, they were canoodling. 528 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: They were okay, so they were definitely engaging in some 529 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: sort of This wasn't just he was doing the Heimlich maneuver. 530 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: They caught them at a bad time. He was no, 531 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how. She was having a 532 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: back injury of some sort. 533 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: Sure, he was just propping my dot. 534 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm trying to give everybody the benefit 535 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: of the down. Okay, So obviously they're the astronomer. Is 536 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: that the name of this company this guy ran. 537 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the CEO. 538 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: I'm exhausted with these two. And this is what the 539 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: internet does. Now. Something happens, you become a meme or 540 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: a gift or whatever, and it's funny for like a day, 541 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: But now we're on a week of this. Yeah, and 542 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: it's all in my timeline all the time. 543 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: So are we almost over the memes? 544 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: Well, that doesn't seem like the public is. 545 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: What is the shelf life for things in the digital world? 546 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: Don't know? Yeah, I don't know. This is why I 547 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: don't understand. It's not that funny to me, Like Okay, 548 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 1: you got caught. Be it a sneak, right, maybe this 549 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: woman should have gone to are we dating the same? 550 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: Sounds like she knew the guys she was dating. But 551 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, some of them were kind of funny, 552 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: Like there were a couple of them where they put 553 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: pro wrestlers who don't like each other together. That was 554 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: kind of funny. But now that I'm on day seven 555 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: or eight or whatever. 556 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 2: This time to move on. 557 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: We've passed this, but the internet will not move past. 558 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 3: So the company that he was the CEO for has 559 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 3: launched a formal investigation. They placed him on administrative leave. 560 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 3: They just got done to get quit. Uh, it's being 561 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: reported administrative leave. 562 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so he's not official. 563 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,400 Speaker 3: No, you're right, he was. He was put on administrative 564 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 3: leave before his resignation. 565 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: So he has resigned. Yeah, okay, and they just. 566 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: Did a ninety three million dollar funding round in May. 567 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: Okay, so the companies. So you and I had this 568 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: conversation the last week about now, obviously the fall. It 569 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: is apparently, according to you what you're reading there, that 570 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: he has indeed said I'm out. But if you're we're 571 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: so money driven in our society now money is the king. 572 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: Money drives everything the Cindy Lauper song, even though it's 573 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: forty years old. Now, Kevin, that's your job. You have 574 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: to come in with that next segment as the bumper. 575 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: That would it even really affect if this guy was 576 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: making a bunch of money for this company, where they 577 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: just be like, well, people get bad headlines all the time. 578 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: We have no moral compass anymore in our society. 579 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 3: Now, the boarder directors say it does affect everything because 580 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 3: the astronomer said that their leaders are expected to uphold 581 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 3: high standards of conduct, conduct and accountability, which he failed 582 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 3: to meet. 583 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 2: Ah, so that's the problem. 584 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: Now there has been a new verb, oh that has 585 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 3: been created because of this incident. 586 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 2: I've used it a few times. Did you pick up 587 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: on it? 588 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: No, cold played? Cold played? 589 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: Yep. It's the act of. 590 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 3: Being unintentionally exposed while cheating. No, especially in public, usually 591 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 3: during major events, or to be seen at the wrong 592 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 3: place with the wrong person at the wrong time. 593 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 1: It's really hard to be a sneak these days, isn't it. 594 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: It's getting harder. 595 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 3: It's synonyms. If you were going to say, oh, you're 596 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: busted or you've been. 597 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: Played, Oh, I got gotcha. 598 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: Now you've been cold. 599 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: So the guys quit? Can't we just move on of 600 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: filling my timeline up with the photos? I mean, he's 601 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: now served his punishment. Is she punished? How is he 602 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: the only one that's getting punished? Yeah, it takes two 603 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: to tango. Is she married? 604 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: Do we know they were both married? 605 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: They're both married? 606 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're both married. 607 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: Then if that's the case, that doesn't seem very hr 608 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: appropriate to me. 609 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 2: Not at all. 610 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,479 Speaker 1: All Right, let's take a break. What are we doing next? 611 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: What's going? 612 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: There's this new phrase that's coming around, though it's not 613 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: called cold play. 614 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 3: Uh huh, it's it's something that's going. 615 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: You've heard of quiet quitting? 616 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: What's that? 617 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: It's when people just disengage at work. They don't officially quit, 618 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: but they just kind of. 619 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: Like have it on a daily basis. 620 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: Well, there's another one like that. Oh it's not quiet quitting. 621 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: It's the newest version of that. 622 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 3: How excited And we'll talk about that coming up with 623 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 3: Kendall and Casey. 624 00:29:53,600 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: It's ninety three WIBC. Doesn't it keep me? 625 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: You know? 626 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 2: What else? 627 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: Changes everything? 628 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: What's that? 629 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: Not being able to keep your big yapp or shut 630 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: I can't believe you try to get through a whole show. 631 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: We have this awesome opportunity to dump all over Todd Roketa, 632 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: and you were gonna let me get out of here 633 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: without doing that. Nice try, lady. 634 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 3: I would just like to point out eleven o'clock right. 635 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: There, it's on the dumpling. I got tru chose to 636 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: ignore the show run down. 637 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: I got distracted by trying to figure out if that 638 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: guy's being a sneaky sneak or not. And uh, for 639 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: the good of human you wanted. 640 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 2: To go off and do your own thing. It was 641 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: right there, right there. 642 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: Not so fast, Todd, all right, So the Indian it's 643 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: a bring this. According to Indiana Capital Chronicle, Indiana Supreme 644 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: Court denies aj Roketa's motion to dismiss disciplinary complaint. So 645 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: we've talked about the previous reports have come out. The 646 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: Todd Raketa, because he can't keep his big yapper shut, 647 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: because he wants to be a politician in a position 648 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: that politics should be completely removed from, and he cannot 649 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: stand and not see or hear himself in the headlines, 650 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: has been embroiled in this back and forth with the 651 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: Indiana Disciplinary commission going back. 652 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: To twenty years now. 653 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 3: So he made public public comments on Fox News about 654 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 3: an Indianapolis doctor and abortion doctor. Right, he called her 655 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 3: an activist acting as a doctor. 656 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And then he got in trouble for that because attorneys, 657 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: when you sign up to have a law license, which 658 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: you have to have to be the attorney general, you're 659 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: held to a higher standard. Just like us on these 660 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: radio airwaves. We can't say the f for it, even 661 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: though we could walk on the street and say it. 662 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: It's what you sign up. It's not an impediment on 663 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: your first Amendment. Right, you know, I can't say that word. 664 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: And Rokeeda knows, like any attorney, there's different behavioral standards. 665 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: So this disciplinary commission as a complaint filed to them, 666 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: they look at it. He comes to an agreement with them, saying, Okay, 667 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't defend these things if they went in front 668 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: of you. In exchange for a reprimand to slap on 669 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: the wrist, I think a small fine, we'll go our 670 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: merry way. Well, then as soon as this comes out, 671 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: he and then can't keep his big yapper shut and 672 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: he starts trying to basically dismiss the agreement that he 673 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: signed on to. So a bunch of people were like, 674 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: wait a second, right, you sign this, it's in front 675 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: of the court. Yeah, you can't say I did it 676 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: and then basically say I didn't do it. 677 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: Right. So the Indiana Disciplinary Commission, they say that Todd 678 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 3: Rokeita Attorney General, misled the court about accepting responsibility. 679 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: So the grokeda, this was his one of his numerous 680 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: taxpayer I assume that we're still paying for the attorneys 681 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: on this one. Todd can let us know if that's 682 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: not true. We're at five hundred thousand at last. 683 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 3: Right, Indiana taxpayer, so far, I've paid more than four 684 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: hundred ninety one thousand dollars in legal fees defending his 685 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 3: law license because he can't. 686 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: Keep his fat mouth shut and just act like a 687 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: normal person. So the Supreme Court one of these motions 688 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: to try to get out of it. They said, no, 689 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: you got to move forward. There's some sort of panel 690 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: of distinguished legal minds that are going to I guess 691 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: hear this, and then the Supreme Court will weigh in 692 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: on it. Here's the deal, Todd. Todd, just be normal, 693 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: just do your job, Just be the chief law enforcement 694 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: Officer for the State of Indiana. Prosecute the things that 695 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: need prosecuted, go after the people that need it, going 696 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: after when you get a victory, hold it up for 697 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: the public. Stay off the television, stay out of the newspaper. 698 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: Just do your job. Why is this so hard? Casey? 699 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 2: Okay? 700 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 3: So the panel, they're going to submit their findings and 701 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: they will make the final decision, and possible sanctions could 702 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 3: include private or public reprimand, temporary suspension, suspension with fitness 703 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 3: review for reinstatement, or permanent disbarment. 704 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: If we get permanent disbarment, We're having a Kennel and 705 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: Casey Show pizza party at the Pizza King. How about 706 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: that Pizza King. We'll have a photo op at the 707 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: Pizza King. 708 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 2: Okay, it seems to be where they all go, right. 709 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: So Rokeina gets permanent disbardment, We're having a a you, 710 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: Me and cav the part of Kennel Casey Show party 711 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: at the Pizza King. 712 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 2: Thank you, Rob, thank you, Kevin, Thank you for listening today. 713 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 3: This has been Kendel and Casey on ninety three WIBC