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Speaker 1: different locations. For that. It's good Monday morning to you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for spending and starting your week with us.

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Speaker 1: I am Kevin Bow and James Boyd and Mark Dyton

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Speaker 1: along side, and as I made the drive downtown this morning,

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Speaker 1: I did think to myself, if I have this correctly,

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Speaker 1: I should say for the next six days, seven days?

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Speaker 1: Is that right? The rest of this week? Or in

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Speaker 1: Westfield and James Monday Tuesday of next week, right, our

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So we will be on the road a

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Speaker 1: Mark Dyton solo dolo in studio.

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Speaker 3: Pants boys, I know I've already brought the hangars. The

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to kick up my feet and just have

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Speaker 1: Pray for Eddie Garrison sitting in that share following you here.

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Speaker 1: Over the next week and a half, Colt's training camp

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Speaker 1: around it sounds like lunchtime coming up tomorrow, and then

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Speaker 1: you know, this is typical around the NFL. The voices

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Speaker 1: shift from the GM carrying the mic throughout really the

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Speaker 1: Shane Steiken will be kind of the main voice of

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Speaker 1: the organization after that. But summer vacation, sir, is over.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is over. But we had a crazy summer break,

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Speaker 3: Until it's like the first day of school, they say,

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark will play tomorrow night. No real surprise with

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Speaker 2: the comments. I should never I should honestly stop doing this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the comments on my post game story, because

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Speaker 1: of it, But any further explanation for people have no

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Speaker 1: idea what you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: So there are two women on the Minnesota Links team

435
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Speaker 2: who are part of the LGBTQ community, and they started

436
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Speaker 2: their own stream slash podcast, I believe, and they were

437
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Speaker 2: able to basically go around and give you unfiltered, you know,

438
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Speaker 2: access to All Star Weekend that you would not see otherwise.

439
00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,800
Speaker 2: I mean even hat Kitlyn Clark on their stream and

440
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Speaker 2: her brother planned about WNB officiating, which I thought was hilarious,

441
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Speaker 2: and they went around and put the camera on any

442
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Speaker 2: and everybody, and I thought one of the funniest moments

443
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Speaker 2: was having those two women dancing to knuck if You

444
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Speaker 2: Buck with Kathy Engelbert, who is the commissioner of the WNBA.

445
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Speaker 2: So it's the imagine Roger Goodell dancing to knuck if

446
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Speaker 2: You Buck with like I don't know, Jalen Hurts and

447
00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,320
Speaker 2: you know, Patrick Mahomes or something like that. It was

448
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Speaker 2: just a really funny moment for the league, and I

449
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Speaker 2: thought it was honestly a very good way to kind

450
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Speaker 2: of promote the league in a very unique way. So

451
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Speaker 2: not always you know, say for work or PG you

452
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Speaker 2: know thirteen, but nevertheless, very funny moment throughout the entire weekend.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to West Lafayette's George Carloftis to Purdue Products

454
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Speaker 1: signed a nice extension there, States ninety three million reminded

455
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Speaker 1: that George Carloftis has played in the league for three

456
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Speaker 1: years and he's never not played in the Super Bowl.

457
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Speaker 1: What a flex. That's a pretty good life, right.

458
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Speaker 2: And he's a very good player, so you know, he's

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Speaker 2: nice Ron.

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Speaker 1: I think in the Super Bowl. No, they didn't win

461
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Speaker 1: it this year, but I thought he had a nice run.

462
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Speaker 2: And regave that people hell on the big time.

463
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Speaker 1: He certainly did that. And rest in peace to a

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Speaker 1: legend of the state in our industry, Bob Hamill, passing

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Speaker 1: away at the age of eighty eight. Was fortunate to

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Speaker 1: know Bob back in my college days down there at Indiana.

467
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Speaker 1: He was always super kind to me, and again a

468
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Speaker 1: legend the Herald Times and probably best known for his

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Speaker 1: relationship and I would say friendship with Bob Knight, but

470
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Speaker 1: a true, true legend when it comes to sports writing

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Speaker 1: in this state. Passed away over the weekend. All right,

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Speaker 1: coming up on the other side, we'll get into the

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Speaker 1: colts conversation because at this point tomorrow we will be

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Speaker 1: at Grand Park. It will be report day for training

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Speaker 1: camp around the league. Let's touch on that. On the

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Speaker 1: other side, Kevin Bow and James Boyd and Mark Dyton

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Speaker 1: here on a month. Well, thanks for starting your week

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Speaker 1: with us, Kevin Bow and James Boyd to Mark Dyton,

479
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Speaker 1: James and I will be up at Grand Park Tuesday

480
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Speaker 1: through Friday, report day tomorrow for Colt training camp and

481
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Speaker 1: Wednesday through Friday morning practice morning practice again on Monday

482
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Speaker 1: and Tuesday. So you were here the show from Westfield

483
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Speaker 1: and the Crows in the background beginning coming up tomorrow morning.

484
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Speaker 1: A couple of Colts items from the weekend. Again, I

485
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Speaker 1: was never too too worried about this, and I think

486
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Speaker 1: you saw the dominoes start to fall there. JT Tuemlla.

487
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Speaker 1: Nothing in flich from the Colts yet, but some reports

488
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Speaker 1: over the weekend agreed to terms on his contract, so

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Speaker 1: he should be good when training camp again opens up

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Speaker 1: for good Wednesday morning when the Colts practice. And do

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Speaker 1: you see Desmond Ridder found a home.

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Speaker 2: I did see that, and I believe where do you

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Speaker 2: end up by the way.

494
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati, So back to his college roots. Yes, there for

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Speaker 1: Desmond Ridder.

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Speaker 2: For a brief moment he was here trying out during

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Speaker 2: a veteran mini camp.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so for those that missed that story. Back in

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Speaker 1: mid June, Desmond Ridder did have a three day tryout

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Speaker 1: with the Colts, who was one of about a half

501
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Speaker 1: dozen veterans that tried out during the team's MIDI camp.

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Speaker 1: He did not get really very many, if any, meaningful reps.

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Speaker 1: So right now as we sit here, you know, twenty

504
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Speaker 1: four hours before report day, four quarterbacks are scheduled to

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Speaker 1: report for training camp for the Colts. Those four would

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Speaker 1: be Daniel Jones, Anthony Richardson, Riley Leonard, and Jason Bean.

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm not like too surprised by that, but

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Speaker 1: I do think if an injury were to occur to Richardson,

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Speaker 1: of course being the one that you mentioned mentioned first,

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Speaker 1: to Richardson or Jones, I still will not have Riley

511
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Speaker 1: Leonard be a backup on game day as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: I think if that situation were to arise in September, October,

513
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Speaker 1: November something like that, I do think a player like

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Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter or some sort of veteran that's played in

515
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Speaker 1: the league, you would go out there and get But

516
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Speaker 1: right now it looks like and by the reports late

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Speaker 1: last week, Anthony Richardson is good to go. So I

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Speaker 1: would say the fact that the Colts haven't signed a

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Speaker 1: quarterback yet James is probably a good thing for Richardson's

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Speaker 1: overall health here for the start of training camp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you have the gold Jason Bean. As everyone

522
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Speaker 2: always points out to me. You know, everyone loves the backup, backup,

523
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Speaker 2: backup quarterback who has all the traits and physical attributes

524
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Speaker 2: preseason honor exactly until they play. So I do think

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Speaker 2: it's a good point overall, though, Kevin, and honestly for

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Speaker 2: Anthony's sake, we just can't be having this conversation about

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Speaker 2: health as we get deeper into camp and as we

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Speaker 2: get really throughout the season. He's, in my opinion, he's

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Speaker 2: kind of walking on thin ice when it comes to

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Speaker 2: the injury bug. And I know that's kind of crazy

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Speaker 2: to say, because he has gotten injured every year of

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Speaker 2: his career, and he's kind of been injury prone if

533
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Speaker 2: you date back to his high school days. But this

534
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Speaker 2: is the year, I think where you have to kind

535
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Speaker 2: of put it all together and at the very least

536
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Speaker 2: just stay healthy enough for them to evaluate you. Because

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Speaker 2: I think what was thinking the most from the Colts

538
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Speaker 2: front office, even the fan base to a degree that

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Speaker 2: the fans who still rock with Anthony Richardson is the

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Speaker 2: fact that if he gets hurt, there's always going to

541
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Speaker 2: be a little bit of that what if of like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: well what if he didn't And you know, I'm of

543
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Speaker 2: the mindset of like, at least we'll get a clearer

544
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Speaker 2: evaluation of him if he says healthy for the whole season.

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Speaker 2: If he does, I mean, if he isn't good, then

546
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Speaker 2: so be it. But if he isn't good or you

547
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Speaker 2: can't really evaluate it because of the injuries, that will

548
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Speaker 2: be I think a huge swing in amiss for this franchise.

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Speaker 2: But I mean they're already you know, I think they're

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Speaker 2: two strikes at this point. You know, you got one

551
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Speaker 2: last hack at it. Oh two strikes, and I might

552
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Speaker 2: argue you're down oh two fair enough. Yeah, it's a

553
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Speaker 2: good way to put a very good way to play,

554
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Speaker 2: you know, if you're sitting two two or three two.

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Speaker 2: Continue the baseball analogy. Chris Ballard will meet the media

556
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Speaker 2: tomorrow around lunchtime. Your interest with the Colts GM. As

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Speaker 2: weird as this sounds, James is if this season were

558
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Speaker 2: to derail, If this season were not to go according

559
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Speaker 2: to what Chris Ballard.

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Speaker 1: Wants it to go. James, Tomorrow might be the final

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Speaker 1: time we talk with him in a media session. That's

562
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Speaker 1: just the reality of where things are at right now.

563
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Speaker 1: With this frame, typically, I kind of forget does he

564
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Speaker 1: talk at the fifty three man roster cut down. Some

565
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Speaker 1: years we've heard from him, maybe some years we haven't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe we do hear from them, then yeah.

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Speaker 2: I believe we usually get them. If I'm not mistaken,

568
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Speaker 2: we'll get him in training camp and then we'll get

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Speaker 2: them right before the season starts.

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Speaker 1: So talk to them one more time for that, particularly

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Speaker 1: once the season gets underway.

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Speaker 2: You're not talking unless unless it's bad, Yeah, unless you

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Speaker 2: know the coaches getting changed or something like that. But

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Speaker 2: I think the one of the bigger questions I have

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Speaker 2: related to Chris Ballad, and I guess Chris Ballad adjacent

576
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Speaker 2: will be just how long is his leash? Because we

577
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Speaker 2: know that the late jim Ers had a big, big

578
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Speaker 2: affinity for Chris Ballard, and I would argue that he

579
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Speaker 2: liked Chris Ballard more than most owners would. I think

580
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Speaker 2: that's a fair statement given his resume and the lack

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Speaker 2: of success during his tenure, and I can't say one

582
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Speaker 2: way or the other if that same affinity has transferred

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Speaker 2: to the daughters now, but I can say that there

584
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Speaker 2: will be pressure on him, and I think a little

585
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Speaker 2: bit more just how do I put this? I felt

586
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Speaker 2: like carl Ursay Gordon was very direct in her opening

587
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Speaker 2: press conference as the new principal owner of the team

588
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Speaker 2: alongside her sisters, where she fled out said Chris Ballad

589
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Speaker 2: and Shane Sachen know they have to be better. They

590
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Speaker 2: know this isn't our standard.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: She did publicly back them, She said, I believe they

593
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Speaker 2: can get it done. But I did not get the

594
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Speaker 2: vibe of you know this guy's Michael Jordan, as Jim

595
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Speaker 2: Mercy referred to Chris Ballad or you know Shane sych

596
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Speaker 2: And as Don Shula as Jim Mercey liked to say

597
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Speaker 2: those things aren't true, whether it was Jim Mercy saying

598
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Speaker 2: them or not. I think the daughters are have taken

599
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Speaker 2: a step back from that, and I'm curious just to

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Speaker 2: see how you know, hands on they will be and

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Speaker 2: also what is their balance between patients and impatience when

602
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Speaker 2: it comes to correcting things.

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Speaker 1: You think we hear from Carl Er say Gordon at

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Speaker 1: all during training camp.

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Speaker 2: Her father did I'm going to say no, I'm going

606
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Speaker 2: to say no, I would like to hear from her.

607
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Speaker 2: Isn't required, Obviously, her father typically did speak. He would

608
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Speaker 2: usually joint practice joint practice, and then at least speak

609
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Speaker 2: on the broadcast in the third game alongside Rick Venturi. Yeah,

610
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Speaker 2: and so I just think that I would love for

611
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Speaker 2: that to happen. But I'm not so sure they were.

612
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Speaker 2: They're very reserved and quiet before even before they you know,

613
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Speaker 2: they took over as owners of the team. And perhaps

614
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Speaker 2: part of that was because their dad was their dad,

615
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Speaker 2: and he's very outspoken enough. But I don't necessarily know

616
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Speaker 2: how that wolld go. But I would just say I

617
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Speaker 2: wouldn't bet on it, but I would certainly prefer it

618
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Speaker 2: as a member of the media.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not holding my breath either on it. But

620
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Speaker 1: to get back to that point you made earlier, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I probably said this when you know, unfortunately

622
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Speaker 1: Jim passed and and you know, it became clear that

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Speaker 1: Karl was going to be the lead voice now moving

624
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Speaker 1: forward for the organization. I think she's just more of

625
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: a math and a numbers person. Who is this I'm sorry, Carly. Yes,

626
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: then more of a heart, you know, making decisions with

627
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Speaker 1: the emotional ties to it. Of I think she'll look

628
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: at the raw facts of Wait a minute, we're in

629
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Speaker 1: our longest playoff drout in thirty years. Wait a minute,

630
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Speaker 1: we haven't had a home playoff game in ten years.

631
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Speaker 2: We haven't meet the Jaguars ever.

632
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: Wait a minute. Only three teams in the NFL have

633
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: a longer playoff drout currently than us.

634
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Speaker 2: When you say that one that way, that one really

635
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: hits home, I'm like, wow, But also dang four years.

636
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So like I think when you add up all

637
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Speaker 1: of that, I guess to answer your question, I would

638
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: assume that the seat is, you know, to go with

639
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: the seat warm analogy we talked about late last week

640
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: is very very warm, but there is still a little

641
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 1: bit of the unknown. Like I do think she likes

642
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: Chris Bouart, I don't think there's like any I don't

643
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: think it's icy by any means from a relationship standpoint.

644
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Speaker 1: And there is part of me that, you know, thought

645
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: to myself, if you know Jimmers, they had been in

646
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: better health the last couple off seasons would be even

647
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: still be here of a ninth year for the Colts GM.

648
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: But again Chris bout to meet the media. Coming up tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: it'll be a report day out there for Colts Training Camp,

650
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Speaker 1: and we'll be out there covering morning practices Wednesday through Friday.

651
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Speaker 1: This is the longest stretch of consecutive practices we'll get

652
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Speaker 1: all training camp long. We'll have four straight days, three

653
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: morning practices and Saturdays and afternoon practice. That is definitely

654
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Speaker 1: the longest stretch of consecutive days of work for the

655
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Speaker 1: Colts at Grand Park. I bring that up because of

656
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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, and I think we've now kind of gotten

657
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Speaker 1: to the next rung of the ladder on the Richardson story.

658
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Speaker 1: You confirmed Stephen Holder's report late last week that Richardson

659
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Speaker 1: is back and throwing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw Stephen Holder by the way over the weekend.

661
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: I told him, why are you making me work? This

662
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Speaker 2: could have been a question answered by Chris Ballard on

663
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Speaker 2: day one, we would have had news for the show.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, Stephen was a busy man last week,

665
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Speaker 1: and I saw him with Adam Schefter last week.

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Speaker 2: I saw to him he was a little under dress

667
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Speaker 2: by the way. I'm like you, Stephen Holder, who we

668
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Speaker 2: all referred to I would think as the best dress

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Speaker 2: on the beat. He is very, very sharp, And I said,

670
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Speaker 2: where's the bless.

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Speaker 1: That's truly a comp By the way, Stephen Holder is

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Speaker 1: a grea dresserre is that truly a Have you seen

673
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Speaker 1: how some of us dress? That is true?

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Speaker 3: I don't wear a belt until Sundays. So you're saying

675
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Speaker 3: he's the best in a low bar, low bar. But

676
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Speaker 3: I actually think that he's a very good buried six

677
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 3: feet under. I think he's a good dresser though.

678
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Speaker 4: Oh no, I mean it.

679
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Speaker 2: Would be like Scoonnie Scheffler golfing of all of us.

680
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Speaker 2: Fair enough, fair enough, But I'll let you continue your points.

681
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Speaker 2: You want to give a Holder a bit of a

682
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: jab there, I'm like, dude, man, what are you doing?

683
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 5: What do you do?

684
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 2: I'm the W and B All Star Weekend. I'm right

685
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,479
Speaker 2: about the quarterback?

686
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: Well, and I guess let me change a little bit.

687
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: We know Anthony Richardson is back and throwing. Yes, okay,

688
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: so what's your next Richardson question?

689
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: What capacity?

690
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: Are you full?

691
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: Go? Are you limited?

692
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 5: Do that?

693
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 2: And I genuinely want to know this is this something

694
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: where they have to monitor his workload all the time,

695
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: Like is it a scenario where he doesn't go full

696
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: bore ever? Again? Like I don't, I don't know, you

697
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: know what I mean? I mean, like, how do you

698
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: stop something like the spring from happening again where they

699
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: say he reported aggravation And I believe the way that

700
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 2: Shane Styke can describe it to us, Kevin and correct

701
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong, But it was something like, you know,

702
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: it's a stress thing, like how much stress can you

703
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 2: put on the ac join and on your shoulder? But

704
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, you know, is this something you have to

705
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Speaker 2: sort of monitor throughout the season and make sure that

706
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Speaker 2: he stays healthy and he's not feeling that sore on

707
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Speaker 2: and so all those questions are ones that I have

708
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: for Anthony richardson approach. And what I love about training

709
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: camp is that you can't really hide. It's you can

710
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: tell us one thing, and you know, during the spring

711
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: and we don't see every practice and it's like, oh

712
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: well whatever, But for training camp, we'll know exactly what

713
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: the plan is as far as his worklow based off

714
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Speaker 2: of what we see with our own two eyes.

715
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess my question very similar to what you

716
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: just said in regards to Richardson would be how quickly

717
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: do we get back to a fifty to fifty split?

718
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: Ooh yeah, you know Wednesday Day one, Thursday's two, Friday's

719
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Speaker 1: Day three, Saturday's Day four. By Saturday are we splitting

720
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: reps again? I think it's vital for Richardson that if

721
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 1: we do Monday Show from Grand Park a week from

722
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: today and it's still Daniel Jones getting the majority of

723
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: starting reps, that is not good at all for Anthony

724
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: Richardson because once we get to next week, we're like

725
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: nine days away from their preseason opener. The preseason opener

726
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: is two weeks from Thursday. As insane as that sounds,

727
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: but that's just how the preseason training camp schedule works

728
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: for the Colts. A couple of other Chris Bowot items

729
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: I'll be curious about tomorrow. Just where is Zia Franklin

730
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: at You know, he was an injury that we saw

731
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: in the spring, unfortunately, a storyline that we do see

732
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: occasionally around the NFL. The Colts have had one or

733
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: two of these. You know, did anybody get hurt in

734
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: kind of the six weeks away from the team, And

735
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: I think such a massive storyline non quarterback related, non

736
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: really positioned battle related for this season is just Quitty

737
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: Pay and or allow to lat to become a first

738
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: round pass rusher, Like if you can get one of

739
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: those guys, and again Lattu is only in year two, Quitty,

740
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: this is what year five?

741
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

742
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: For him? Ken lou Anarumo unlock a true first round rusher.

743
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: I think Quidy Pay has been a fine player. He

744
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: has not been a first round pass rusher a lot

745
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: to last year. I thought really kind of hit a

746
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: rookie wall. With about a handful of games to go,

747
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: can either of those guys become a great edge rusher

748
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Speaker 1: for you?

749
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: Another one that I had was how do you feel

750
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: about your offensive line? Because this is the most change

751
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: we've seen on this offensive line in a while, in

752
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: a few years, and as much as you were prepared for,

753
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: because I think the plan was always to some degree,

754
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: so start Maganzovez at some point, start Tanner Bordolini, who

755
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: right now is competing with Danny Pincer for the starting

756
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: center position. But you lost four percent of your offensive line?

757
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: What does that mean? As far as just trying to,

758
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: you know, gain some continuity, gain some experience together, get

759
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 2: some reps together and ultimately make sure you're not one

760
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: of the compounding issues for your quarterback play, which is

761
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: still gonna be under a microscope.

762
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Speaker 1: Joel a. Ericson going to join us here coming up

763
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: in ten minutes, could you fill our audience in does

764
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: Kelsey Plumb hate Caitlin Clark? No?

765
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 2: So you know what, and I shouldn't have jumped the gun.

766
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 2: I actually deleted my tweet from yesterday when I threw

767
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: the same question out there. It was a genuine question.

768
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: I was like, why does she say this? And for

769
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 2: those who are kind of confused, So when Kelsey Plumb.

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Speaker 1: I guest start Saturday pregame if you don't mind. For

771
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: those that were like, didn't pay attention at all, whatever, Yeah,

772
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: we'll start in the Saturday pre game when they came

773
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Speaker 1: on the floor.

774
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: So Saturday pre game, the WNBA players came out with

775
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: their shirt from the w NBA Players Association that said

776
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: pay us what you owe us in reference to their

777
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: CBA negotiations with the WNBA right now, which long story short,

778
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 2: the current CBA for the WNBA expires October thirty first

779
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: or after this season, and the women want more of

780
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 2: the revenue share and I believe their revenue split from

781
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: the what the WNBA brings in is very small compared

782
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: to the men and it's not even close. And before

783
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: people get into the hole where operating a deficit, how

784
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 2: much money do they do they should they get? Look, man,

785
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 2: we all have had jobs. We don't care what the

786
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 2: bosses do. We all we deserve. We all think we

787
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: deserve what we want as salary. So that's what they're

788
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: fighting for. And when Kelsey Plum, who plays for the

789
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Sparks, was asked after the game, hey, why

790
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 2: did you all wear this? You know, why did you

791
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 2: all wear this shirt? And the response was, you know, well,

792
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 2: we're trying to send a message. And I think Kelsey

793
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: Plumb was trying to be funny Kevin when she mentioned,

794
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: you know, and Kelsey Plum played for Team Collier reference

795
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: to the PCA Collier who was a captain of one

796
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 2: of the teams, and she was like, well, you know,

797
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: we had a meeting about it and we decided to

798
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 2: wear and oh, by the way, I don't know I'm

799
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 2: tattle tailing, but you know, no members of Team Clark

800
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: came to that meeting. And obviously, whenever you mentioned or

801
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 2: invoke Kaitlin Clark's name when it comes to anything that's

802
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 2: kind of you know, I guess serious. It can come

803
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: off as you being like, well, dang, did you just

804
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 2: take a shot at the biggest start in your sport?

805
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 2: And honestly, I don't care what anybody says. Kaitlyn Clark

806
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: coming to the WNBA at this point in time has

807
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: helped everyone. Everyone, Like we can argue about, you know,

808
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: who else was there building this And I can't act

809
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 2: like Kalyn Clark built the entire WNBA by herself, but

810
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: she is certainly somebody who moved needles for you. There

811
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: is no way that they were going to you know,

812
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: in my opinion, have heard her flights solved that quickly

813
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: without her coming to the WNBA and being like, I

814
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 2: can't fly commercially because I'm just way too famous.

815
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: Without question so exactly.

816
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 2: So it came off as a bit to me, you know,

817
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: looking back at it. The Joe did not land very

818
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: well at all, and.

819
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: Sabrina and Nescue was sitting next to her at the time,

820
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 1: who was also on Team Clark, and she was not yeah, please,

821
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: She was.

822
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: Like, why would you say that, and kind of laughed

823
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: it off, and and Kelsey did say in defense, she

824
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: was like, hey, I'm trying to light the situation. But

825
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: I'm like no, no, no, no, no no, why are

826
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: you playing around right now? Like, don't do that right now,

827
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: you're trying to get paid, Like, no, no time for

828
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 2: the funny stuff. We're trying to get money.

829
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that part you're you're trying to get paid,

830
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: Like you need to show this sign of unity, like

831
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: everybody wants to.

832
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm thinking, what a meeting to wear a shirt?

833
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: Hit the group text? Everyone wore and I kid you

834
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 2: not like Kitlyn Clark, wearing that shirt is a huge

835
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 2: benefit for them, regardless of if she comes out and

836
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: says some grand speech. And in fairness to Kaitlin, she

837
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 2: showed up for the meeting that involved the commissioner. So again,

838
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: if if you missed, you missed the one about wearing

839
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: a shirt. Oh, by the way, just put it on. Yeah.

840
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: The finances of the WNBA confuses me. It's really over

841
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: my head. Frankly. You know, so many people are like, hey,

842
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: you know it's you know, all these franchises are tied

843
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: to the NBA. I'm like, okay, well what about the

844
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: Seattle Storm, What about the Las Vegas Ass what about

845
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: the Connecticut Sun? Aren't all of those in cities and

846
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: places where we don't have an NBA team? That has

847
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 1: always kind of confused me. I get like the Fever

848
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: and you know, owned by the Simons. I can understand

849
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: that correlation, and that's how most of the WNBA teams are.

850
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: And also, like, would the players just simply be happy

851
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: if their revenue percentage match the NBA is a fifty

852
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: to fifty split, right.

853
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, If it's not fifty fifty, it's like fifty one

854
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: forty nine, it's someone the WNA is like in the twenties. Yeah,

855
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: I believe. So it's very low.

856
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: So would it simply just be hey, which obviously I

857
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: get the dollars and cents, you would increase it significantly

858
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: because right now, and you know you said October thirty first,

859
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: it's here.

860
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: It is the WNBA. The players currently receive about nine point.

861
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: Three percent of the leagues, not even in the twenties.

862
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: That is horrible. Yeah, which again you can argue about, oh,

863
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: what do they deserve with their salaries? The league doesn't

864
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: make enough money. Whatever. If I'm working and I'm putting

865
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: in work and I'm making sure. And by the way,

866
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: these TV deals are booming, which is why they want

867
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: to get the new CBA done. Give me more money.

868
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 2: And for those who are out there like mad about this,

869
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: what's I'll never understand Kevin and Mark, please feel free

870
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: to weigh in. Is it our money?

871
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: Who cares?

872
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 3: Like?

873
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 2: I will never be on the side of Oh, the

874
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 2: billionaires keep more money. I don't care pay them. It's

875
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: not my money.

876
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess the last kind of general question I'd

877
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: have on this is like, and again, we're what three

878
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: months away from deadline super action and we have that works,

879
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: but it does seem like we have gotten a real

880
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: player thread about potentially the old sit out. And again

881
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: we're a long ways away, but and I'm trying to think.

882
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: I guess we haven't had maybe a ton of labor

883
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: discussions across you know, big time sports here recently. But

884
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, this is arguably the greatest and perhaps the

885
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: only time where the WNBA players will be in a

886
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: position like this where this generational talent has walked into

887
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: their league. You either take advantage of it or you're

888
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: gonna left asking yourself why you didn't. Maybe you know

889
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: X amount of years down the road, do we get there,

890
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: because right now it does seem it seems a bit

891
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: icy between the players. Yeah, I mean the commissioner ie

892
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: the owners as well.

893
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the commissioner got drowned out during her

894
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 2: speech which was given the All Star Game MVP to

895
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: deficiate Collier with you know, chance from the crowd of

896
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 2: pay them. And the players had the shirts, they had

897
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 2: signs and things of that nature. So I don't know

898
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 2: if we get to that point because everyone threatens a lockout.

899
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: But the one thing that is very true is that

900
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: when the NFL has done in the past, the NBA

901
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: has done in the past. I remember, what was it,

902
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 2: twenty eleven for the NBA. I believe your top top

903
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: stars make a ton of money and they're fine, And

904
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: you can't say that for the entire WNBA, Like, yeah,

905
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: if they lock out, Kaitlyn Clark is fine, Sabrian Nescue

906
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 2: is fine, But what about your third or fourth best

907
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: players on the team. They have to go make a

908
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: livelihood somewhere. So that to me is a certainly a

909
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 2: big factory when it comes to lockout talks. And so

910
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 2: we'll see how things go later on. This year, but

911
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: it certainly made for I guess, a more newsworthy All

912
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: Star Game because to me, that was my biggest takeaway

913
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, they're trying to make a statement on

914
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: the biggest, one of the biggest platforms.

915
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: Boston pulling up for the four point shot ago.

916
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I felt pretty good about it early on

917
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: because page Backers made the first one for a team Collier,

918
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: and they were actually shooting it pretty well. And then

919
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: they just started launching them and I was like, you

920
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: know what, this feels a lot like the last game

921
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: with the YMCA, like when everyone should have went home,

922
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: but you were like, no, let's play one more and

923
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,959
Speaker 2: then everyone's like, yeah, we shouldn't have played.

924
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: There was that moment where they had Kaitlyn Clark on

925
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 3: the sideline, like four point shots from here on out.

926
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, we don't have to do that.

927
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: And it's not a chucking league like the NBA can.

928
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys do chuck a lot, but you,

929
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they're also capable of I think hitting that

930
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: shot at a more frequent rate. I think a lot

931
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,479
Speaker 1: of people like the WNBA or women's basketball in general,

932
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: because it is a little bit more of a like

933
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: flowing five person offense and like you're doing a lot

934
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: of stuff inside the arc, and we definitely did not

935
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: get that. Saturday Night tomorrow on this Ben Pickman covers

936
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 1: the WNBA for the Athletic in the nine o'clock hour.

937
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: Up next, though, it's Colt Stock. Joel A. Erickson from

938
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: The Star joins us next. You can see it now

939
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 1: tomorrow on Westfield a peacock strut from our next guest.

940
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: This song might be playing in the background. I mean,

941
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: he's the kid on summer vacation. You know, he just

942
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: took his girl to the movie theater. You know travel.

943
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: Baseball season couldn't have gone better. I mean, he's on

944
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: top of the world, went to every camp, you know,

945
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: ice cream visits galore. His team's won ten straight baseball games.

946
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: They just swept the Dodgers. He is Joel a ericson Joel,

947
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say congrats to you now so I don't

948
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: have to say it tomorrow. And how your Brewers are playing.

949
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 5: I.

950
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 4: Am admittedly surprised. I probably shouldn't be, given their their

951
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 4: run over the lest however, many you know since eighteen basically,

952
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 4: but I did not when they lost four straight to

953
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 4: the Yankees open the season. I did not think that

954
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 4: they would be tied for the second best record in

955
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 4: baseball at this point.

956
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 1: Are you guys the new Cardinals?

957
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, as much as much as it hurts me

958
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 4: to admit that.

959
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: Because and that's a cop, it's it's a sick compliment.

960
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: Mark Dyken almost barred when I said that.

961
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: I dug a little bit in my mouth.

962
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: It's a jealous compliment. That's exactly what it is.

963
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 4: Yeah. No, they they are. They are very much like that,

964
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 4: you know. They also they they kind of win. They

965
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 4: you know, people call it like devil magic or whatever,

966
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,720
Speaker 4: but really it's just defense and base running and winning

967
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 4: on the margins.

968
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all right, now you really sound like a

969
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: car Our nos fan. All right, man, gosh, let's just

970
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: moving runners over and you know timely bullpen.

971
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we can pivot to something that will

972
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: put Joel in a you know, perhaps a sadder mood.

973
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 2: I don't know, Colds quarterback competition. It resumes, presumably Joel

974
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 2: this week over at Grand Park. So big picture wise,

975
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: what are some of these storylines quarterback or non quarterbacks

976
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: you're looking at as we gear up for twenty twenty

977
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: five season.

978
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 4: Well number one. I mean, you know, I know we

979
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 4: all reported last week that after you know, Stephen Holder

980
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 4: had a ESPN, Stephen Holder had at first that that

981
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 4: Richardson was throwing again. My understanding is that, like you know,

982
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 4: we still need to see where he is throwing. They

983
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 4: had talked in the in earlier June about, you know,

984
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 4: when he came back, we're going to eat him back

985
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 4: into this. You know, I'm curious what to see, what

986
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 4: see what happens once the team doctors get him. But

987
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 4: that's not that's not knowing anything. That's just you know,

988
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 4: wondering what what what it's going to look like and

989
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 4: then if if he is full of go, you know,

990
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing for Richardson is can he

991
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 4: be Can he be more consistent? Can he be more

992
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 4: consistent throwing the football on a daily basis? Can he

993
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 4: prove to Shane Stike and that he can move the

994
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 4: chains the way he needs him to?

995
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: Joel position Battle, you have no idea on I feel like.

996
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 4: I feel like how everything shakes out at maybe offensive line.

997
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 4: I feel like I know what's gonna happen there. But

998
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 4: there's there's also I was right. I was writing the

999
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 4: other day and I was kind of thinking to myself,

1000
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 4: you know, we we we know they want Tanner, Boardlini

1001
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 4: Mecnzalves to have those spots, but these guys are still

1002
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 4: second year players in the NFL. Becuzoalova is playing a

1003
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 4: position that's not the position he's played mostly for the

1004
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 4: last however many years. You know Bordolini, you know, for

1005
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 4: I think he was coming off of injury, but they

1006
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 4: did go with Danny Pinter twice late down the stretch,

1007
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 4: Like there's there's some uncertainty there with offensive line, and

1008
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 4: also you know that if something happens to one of

1009
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 4: the tackles, you know, you got Blake Freedom, who played

1010
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 4: a ton of snaps as rookie, didn't really play last year.

1011
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 4: We don't really know anything about Jalen Travis from the

1012
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 4: NFL standpoint, yet. I think that that offensive line is

1013
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 4: maybe something that people aren't really talking about right now,

1014
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 4: that is maybe more of a question mark than than

1015
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 4: I think than maybe we're the attention we're giving it.

1016
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 2: Joel, I do want to pivot a bit. So around

1017
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: this time of the year, there's usually a lot of

1018
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 2: optimism brewing from the big man, the late Jim Irsay,

1019
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: and we would hear from him throughout training camp, throughout

1020
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 2: the final pre She's in game on the broadcast, and

1021
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: he would often mention on Lombardi or two, you know,

1022
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: during his preseason. You know, I don't know meetings with us.

1023
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 2: Now that the daughters are in place, you know, what,

1024
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: do you think it'll be liked for this team sort

1025
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,800
Speaker 2: of adjust to their leadership style? And do you expect

1026
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,959
Speaker 2: to hear from the RSA daughters or Carly Arsa Gordon

1027
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 2: specifically leading up to the season.

1028
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 4: That's that's interesting. I am expecting a little bit less

1029
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 4: public commentary from ownership, and that's that's really not that

1030
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 4: out there because you know, in most NFL cities the

1031
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 4: owner does not speak publicly that often. I also think

1032
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 4: that you know, like you said, we're kind of used

1033
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 4: to having the one practice where we talked to Jim

1034
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 4: during the middle of the during the middle of the practice,

1035
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 4: and he's he's usually very optimistic. I I got the

1036
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 4: sense from from the press conference that they did, you know,

1037
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 4: back earlier in the summer that this the group of daughters,

1038
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 4: especially Carly, is going to be much more you know,

1039
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,399
Speaker 4: cautious with what they say. She didn't. She didn't really

1040
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 4: pen herself in at all on any of the major

1041
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 4: questions surrounding the Colts when we talked to her, And

1042
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 4: I think that that probably applies to the way she would,

1043
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 4: you know, handicap the season if we asked her to

1044
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 4: do the same thing. You know, her approach was, We've

1045
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 4: got to wait and see how this all plays out,

1046
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 4: which you know that that's not really the way her

1047
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 4: father usually talked about the team at that point, at

1048
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 4: this point of the season. He usually felt pretty optimistic

1049
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 4: about it. I just think that's probably the difference.

1050
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: He's Joel A. Ericsson from the Indiappos Starr. He's with

1051
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: this here again. Report day for the Colts coming up tomorrow,

1052
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: first practice Wednesday morning at Grand Park. The defense takes

1053
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: a jump this year, Joel of what happens.

1054
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 4: As long as long long as the corners stay healthy.

1055
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 4: As long as the corners stay healthy, and maybe you

1056
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 4: can't mind them stays healthy, I think the defense takes

1057
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 4: a jump. It's it's really if you think back to

1058
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:18,479
Speaker 4: where this this corner room has been going into camp

1059
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 4: the last couple of years, it's it's just it's incredible

1060
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 4: how different it looks at this point in the season.

1061
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 4: You know, for the last however many years, it feels

1062
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 4: like they've gone into training camp with I think probably

1063
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,439
Speaker 4: you know, definitely two years of Gus Bradley's thing. They've

1064
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 4: gone in the training camp with one spot open, you know,

1065
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 4: not knowing who's going to necessarily fill that, and having

1066
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 4: young guys competing.

1067
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: For that spot or both spots.

1068
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 4: Now you've got a bona fide number one corner. In ward,

1069
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 4: you've got Kenny Moore, who I'm expecting to be very

1070
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 4: interesting in lou Ana Riumo's defense, just because we've seen

1071
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 4: what he can do with a nickel before. And then

1072
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 4: the amount of guys competing for playing time elsewhere, it's

1073
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 4: it's not just Juju Branson, Jalen Jones, It's it's justin Wally.

1074
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 4: It's uh Sam Womack, who started eight games last year,

1075
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 4: you know, and you know there's probably a ceiling with

1076
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 4: Womack as a starting outside corner, but we've seen him

1077
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 4: play well if you put put in the right situation.

1078
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 4: They've got Corey Balancin on the roster. It just feels

1079
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 4: like a much deeper position and then much deeper, and

1080
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 4: then also on the top end. The top end is

1081
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 4: much higher than I can remember it being for a while.

1082
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 4: So it just feels like that's a position that's very

1083
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 4: different than what we're used to seeing.

1084
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: Taking quarterback questions off the board, a question you have

1085
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 1: tomorrow for Chris Ballard.

1086
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 4: Is there is there anything left that they can do

1087
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 4: at linebacker? There feels like there's a ton of risk

1088
00:50:55,320 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 4: in that position, just in terms of you're you're betting

1089
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 4: on Carlives, You're assuming Carlives is going to make make

1090
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 4: a leap. Most of the guys behind him are special

1091
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 4: teams types or or you know, unproven younger players don't

1092
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 4: really have snaps.

1093
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 5: You know.

1094
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 4: Ballad would probably say, yes, there's definitely something we can

1095
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 4: do at linebacker. You know, we can get to the

1096
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 4: end of camp and and see what shakes loose. But

1097
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 4: it just feels like that spot, regardless of how much

1098
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 4: they're going to use it or not use it, or

1099
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 4: or play other guys on third down, it feels like

1100
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 4: that spot to me is uh is pretty thin right now.

1101
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: Joe, I don't have a football related question to cap

1102
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: this thing off, but I do know Joel is like

1103
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: our resident chef in the media room, So, well, what

1104
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 2: have you been cooking up this summer? Anything new?

1105
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,399
Speaker 1: You try again? Another probably very low bar, especially with Mike,

1106
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: especially with Mike Chapels.

1107
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I was gonna say, well, Mike, I'm okay

1108
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 2: if I follow the directions. I'm not Joel. I'm not Joeling.

1109
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you're okay, You're you're Dino nuggets at you.

1110
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: Know, you ain't. You ain't seeing me throw now, you know,

1111
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 2: I do Downald nuggets because that's just convenient. But when

1112
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 2: I read and you know, put a couple of steps together,

1113
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 2: Kevin bowing, I am I am nice, I am nice

1114
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 2: in the kitchen, but I am not Joel. So Joel,

1115
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 2: enlighten us on what you've been working on.

1116
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 4: Well, the hardest thing games is when you have when

1117
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 4: you have three kids and they're all running all over

1118
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 4: the place and doing stuff. Is we're starting to get

1119
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 4: to the point where we've got to figure out how

1120
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 4: to make food when we're not standing there.

1121
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 2: Which is why I choose down nuggets, by the way,

1122
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: but continue that that is that is the difficulty.

1123
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 4: Now, you know, the smoker helps, you know, every once

1124
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,439
Speaker 4: in a while, the pork shoulder can help for a week.

1125
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 4: The slow cooker helps. But that's that's the thing right now,

1126
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 4: is that like in terms of in terms of really

1127
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: getting into it and trying new stuff, I we're just

1128
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 4: not home enough on a lot of nights to really

1129
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 4: do that. And then and then, you know, as all

1130
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 4: parents will know, you've got one kid who will only

1131
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 4: eat me eat, one kid who only eats only eats

1132
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 4: food that tastes if he thinks his junk food. And

1133
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 4: then you know the baby who knows what he might

1134
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 4: eat on any given day. So that's that's the hard

1135
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 4: part with cooking now, is like if I want to

1136
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 4: make something really good, I usually have to like make

1137
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 4: it for just being my wife, and then hedge our

1138
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 4: bets with something for the kids, and then the kids

1139
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 4: end up liking it and they eat half the food

1140
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 4: that I made for us.

1141
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 2: Anyway, you know what, don't worry about it, Joe. I'll

1142
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: bring my type of way to work, you know, a

1143
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 2: couple of days. So if you got anything you want

1144
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:40,399
Speaker 2: to drop off, brother, I'm there. McConnell, Mom, spaghetti, shout

1145
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: out Mussel others. Joel, I forget if you I don't know,

1146
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: if you were full, go on the baseball stadium tour.

1147
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,720
Speaker 1: But was there a fun visit you or we did field?

1148
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 4: We did target Field of Minnesota this time we were

1149
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 4: up our time in Wisconsin. Did not coin side with

1150
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 4: like a with like a home stand for the Brewers

1151
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 4: and where my where my dad lives is about an

1152
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 4: hour and a half ish from from target Fields. We

1153
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 4: went and did target Field. Uh, very I mean very nice.

1154
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 4: I will say this. It gives more of a stadium

1155
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 4: field and like a ballpark field to me. It's it's downtown.

1156
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 4: It's it's like it feels big, it feels you know,

1157
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 4: huge and concrete and everything like that. It's it's a

1158
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 4: great view of downtown.

1159
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: Is it near the football stadium.

1160
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 4: No, it's kind of on the other end of downtown.

1161
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 4: It's kind of like off on another another side of it.

1162
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 4: We saw we saw Rick Ventury's rays against the Twins.

1163
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: And you saw Rick Vandury. I was gonna be like, man,

1164
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 2: what I saw Rick Ventury at a rave? And I

1165
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: was like, Wow, that'd be something man to a rave

1166
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: unless it involves you know, cornerbacks and and and you know,

1167
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: quarterback play or him arguing about who should be the

1168
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: string right tackle.

1169
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 4: Oh, It's either that or if you ever walk up

1170
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 4: on me and Rick during training camp, we might be

1171
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 4: talking about that stuff and we might be talking about

1172
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 4: Junior Camenaro.

1173
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess the latter, knowing how you two operate.

1174
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: Tiye Brewers are really good. I'm calling them the modern Cardinals.

1175
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: I guess they've had to really win anything yet, but

1176
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 1: still they just make me jealous as a fan. So Joel,

1177
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: congrats on that and all seriousness. Looking forward to seeing

1178
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: you tomorrow.

1179
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 4: Yep, we'll see guys tomorrow morning.

1180
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: Joel a. Erickson right there from the Indianapolis Star. Great dude,

1181
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: great human.

1182
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 2: He really is one of my favorite people in the world.

1183
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: And so I'm excited to get back with everybody for

1184
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 2: training camp. And I know Joel is gonna have his

1185
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: questions and we will all be kind of ready to

1186
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 2: It's always funny because we do it and I believe

1187
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 2: in a pretty respectful way, but I'm sure all of

1188
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: us have questions, like, all right, it's time to you know,

1189
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 2: basically hammer the gen again and try to put some

1190
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 2: feet to the fire, which is what any team would

1191
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 2: do this time of the year, or any people would

1192
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: do on the beat. This time of the year, and

1193
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 2: of course we got questions and we need a couple answers.

1194
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: No quarterback session tomorrow, Is that correct? We'll hear from

1195
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks after the first practice Wednesday? Is that the sound?

1196
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, And I'm excited to hear from both of them.

1197
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 2: And what's your perspective? Well, excited might be a stretch

1198
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: because I can probably predict what either we'll say, but

1199
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 2: I do want to hear from them, and particularly when

1200
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: it comes to Anthony. You know what did we do

1201
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 2: not talk with Anthony at the end of the spring? No, No,

1202
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 2: when he was hurt exactly, So you know, what did

1203
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: you do to get yourself back on track? How do

1204
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 2: you monitor your shoulder? And obviously the big picture question

1205
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 2: of how do you win this job and make sure

1206
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: that you aren't the number four pick who we look

1207
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 2: back on and say, why the heck did they pick him?

1208
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 1: I forget the exact dollar amount, and I think maybe

1209
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: it hasn't even been finalized yet, but I'm going to

1210
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: ballpark like ten north of ten million. This is like

1211
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: a it's like a fifteen million try out this year

1212
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: for Anthony Richardson again. The Colts first financial decision on

1213
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: Richardson has to come after the season. By next spring,

1214
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: they will either pick up the team option, which would

1215
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: give him that type of payday, that type of increase

1216
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: in his contract, or they would decline that option, therefore

1217
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: sending him to free agency a year earlier, or I

1218
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: should say, ending his rookie contract a year earlier. No

1219
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 1: matter what, we know, he's under contract for next season

1220
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. But that's what is at stake for

1221
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: him this year, and that's different. I mean, that's different

1222
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: than the first couple of years of this. And when

1223
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: you talk about a player that I think it's fair

1224
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: to say financially, the family impact of the type of

1225
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: money that he has made and how many people, you know,

1226
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: he did not grow up in this you know, five

1227
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: star quarterback, lead eleven camp. You know at a very

1228
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: young age. Hey we've got a prized quarterback. Arm let's

1229
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: kind of isolate this kid. No, no, no, I mean

1230
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: he's still very uh in tune and locked in with

1231
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: his home down his people. There. That financial stuff I

1232
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: think carry's even more of a burden on him, to

1233
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: be honest with you. So among all the Richardson questions,

1234
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: that is something that he can't ignore. That's at stake

1235
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty five.

1236
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 3: The Colt's gonna split up like media availability for quarterbacks

1237
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 3: like they do with their chartocrat competition. Like, Daniel, you

1238
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 3: got first team media reps today, Anthony, you're taking number two.

1239
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 3: Tomorrow we switch it up.

1240
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: I would be who would be in the first team media?

1241
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you got you gotta signal out some

1242
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: names there.

1243
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 2: I'm just asking, Well, I think Chap by the fault

1244
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: has to be first team media. Oh he's he's got

1245
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 2: the C on his chest.

1246
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: Oh he's the Patrick Mahomes.

1247
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 5: You know.

1248
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: We know what I love about Chap is that And

1249
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: we make fun of this all the time. We all

1250
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 2: make fun of each other. But Chap will sort of

1251
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 2: like say a statement towards a player, and he's just

1252
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: like he has like huh. On the end, he's like,

1253
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 2: so I can fry for Dick. What he's gonna ask

1254
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 2: Anthony tomorrow. It's gonna be like, hey, Anthony, you know

1255
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 2: you were you missed the spring. You probably need those

1256
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: You need some reps, right, Huh. He's gonna be like, yeah,

1257
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: should probably get some reps in So I'm looking forward

1258
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: to some of the questions statements from the Dean Mike Chapple, who,

1259
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 2: by the way, as a great reporter. I don't mean

1260
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: it in that way. It's just funny that we all

1261
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 2: have our little quarks about each other. I just know

1262
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 2: chapis he's so like which I've learned from He's just

1263
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 2: in your face. There is no like fluff. He's like,

1264
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 2: by the way, you need to play. He's probably gonna

1265
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 2: look at him and say, yes, he's been doing it

1266
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 2: long enough where he's like, I don't have time for this,

1267
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: which let's I love that lunch is getting cold? Come on, yeah,

1268
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: exactly his uh, his, what is it? Turkey on bread? No, no, lettuce.

1269
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: Literally, that's what Mike chap He's taking to Joel A.

1270
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: Rickson for that to again come out. Nine o'clock hour,

1271
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: Ben Pickman covers the w NBA. It was a busy

1272
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 1: weekend here in the Circle City and we'll hit on

1273
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: that here to start this morning checkdown. James Boyd my

1274
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: biggest on court takeaway from the weekend, and I probably

1275
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: didn't need to watch Friday Night to be reminded of it.

1276
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: But Sabrina and ESQ can shoot the cover off of.

1277
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: It, yes, and it was just funny to hear how

1278
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 2: maniacal she is about shooting, because she was like, yeah,

1279
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 2: I left a few easy ones out there. I'm like,

1280
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 2: you scored thirty points in this shooting contest. You made

1281
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: eleven in a row, Sabrina. So she's an awesome shooter,

1282
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 2: the best shooter I think of the WNBA, and it

1283
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 2: is proof in the pudding when it comes to her

1284
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: now becoming a two time three point contest champion.

1285
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Speaker 1: I was glad that Lexie Hall hit a few late.

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01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: I think anytime you're a hometown player, you just don't

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01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: go out okay to be in the competition. That's always

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01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: nice to see. And also shout out to Sabrina Esque

1289
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: who sounds like she split her sixty thousand dollars prize

1290
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: with Sonya Centron, the rookie from the Mystics where.

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Speaker 2: She played college basketball for the.

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01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: Irish of course up there in South ben but I

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01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: thought that was a cool gesture. I mean, Sonya looked

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01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: pretty nervous and a rookie in those competitions I think

1295
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: would be nervous. I was a very star studded three

1296
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: point group and thirty thousand dollars to a rookie in

1297
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: the WNBA is a whole lot of money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought my name was Sonya Hitron for a

1299
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 2: while there, know, when you've announced that I was to go,

1300
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 2: but my ears perked up and everything, and then you know,

1301
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: I realize I'm still James.

1302
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: We talked in baseball with Joel Erics and the Brewers

1303
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: are unbelievably hot right now, Red Stack two of three,

1304
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: cub Stake two of three. As we now are back

1305
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Speaker 1: to regularly scheduled programming. The Indians at home this week,

1306
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: a lot of night games until the day game on Sunday.

1307
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Speaker 1: They returned to Victory Field. Scottie Scheffler's your British Open Champion.

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01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: Either of you catch any of Scotty's rather casual stroll yesterday.

1309
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: I did catch a little bit of it, but honestly,

1310
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 2: it's just you point out earlier and I'm not, you know,

1311
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 2: some golf of fishing audio fishing audo, as you all know.

1312
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 2: But the dude makes that sport look way too easy sometimes.

1313
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 2: And that's what is kind of like insane to me,

1314
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 2: cause I'm like, wait a second, you are going up

1315
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: against the best players in the world on you know,

1316
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: courses that should not be easy, and you make it

1317
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 2: look like you're at a mini golf thing or something.

1318
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 2: And the guy's just he's very good. And anytime you

1319
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: get mentioned in the same breadth as Tiger Woods and others,

1320
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 2: you know you're just something. You know you're doing something

1321
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:05,480
Speaker 2: special with your career.

1322
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: One of Tiger's greatest qualities was bouncing back. Scotty yesterday

1323
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 1: makes a double bogie on whatever it was, eight or nine.

1324
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, Oh boy, do I need to

1325
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: scoot up on the couch now. Just call him Birdie

1326
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: there on the next hole and back and cruise control

1327
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: the rest of the way there. So Scotty Scheffler two

1328
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: Majors this year. Some really cool scenes on the eighteenth

1329
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: green with his son and his wife. Hell, his son

1330
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: probably only knows. Oh wow, this seems like daddy does

1331
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: this every single Sunday that I get to somewhat run.

1332
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: It looks like he's now trying to walk his son

1333
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: out on the eighteenth Green.

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01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 3: Like Boston sports fans, just like kids growing up like

1335
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 3: I just assume we're winning the championship in some sport

1336
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 3: every year.

1337
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 2: So true, Yeah, it must be a.

1338
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: Good life, good life for Poto Ward the Papaya orange

1339
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 1: was loud and proud yesterday north of the border and

1340
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: he got it done in front of the McLaren CEO.

1341
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: Zach Brown attending the race yesterday and great stories. Second

1342
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: and third, that would be Rena's VK and that would

1343
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: be Kiff and Simpson. Two names you don't I know,

1344
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 1: Renus is that a great year for Dale Couinn racing,

1345
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: but still names you don't typically see. Second and third

1346
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: and the horrific year for Team Penske continue. Scott McLaughlin

1347
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: was first out yesterday. Neither Joseph Ugarten nor Will Power

1348
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: in the top ten. It has just been an absolutely awful,

1349
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: awful year. Some might say karma, but it's been terrible

1350
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: for Penske. And alex Plow showed he was human, picked

1351
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,760
Speaker 1: the wrong strategy and finished twelfth, so we're not used

1352
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: to that from alex Plow. Lagunaseeka. To round out what

1353
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: has been a crazy, busy month of July for Indy Car,

1354
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 1: you guys see Peyton Manning's son reportedly is going to

1355
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: high school in Tennessee.

1356
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: No, that's unsurprising, though I would say, well, doesn't he

1357
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 2: live in Colorado? Is it like a prep school. If

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01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 2: it's a prep school, I'm not too surprised by it, because.

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01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: They have, like the camp is in the Baylor's School

1360
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: in Chattanooga. I believe if I have this right now,

1361
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna be an eighth grader. I don't know. I

1362
01:03:57,920 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: feel like some schools in the South, you can, like,

1363
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: you like, go to high school early here, but Chattanooga's

1364
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: not near Knoxville isn't.

1365
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is our private boarding school. So I figured

1366
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 2: to be something where you're, you know, kind of living

1367
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: on your own.

1368
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Speaker 3: It's just an easy private jet from Colorado, Tennessee every day. Yeah, exactly,

1369
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with that.

1370
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 2: I mean I've done it before.

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01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just campus looks incredible.

1372
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 2: It does look very nice.

1373
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: Founded an eighteen Chester.

1374
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 2: He's currently over at the Oxford Summer Camp.

1375
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: Is Jeff still cycling? Is he attending the Tour de France.

1376
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 1: Have we heard from him in a few days?

1377
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 3: Haven't heard from him? Assuming he's still watching that happen.

1378
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 3: I saw a commercial for it him. My god, God,

1379
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Speaker 3: bless you.

1380
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: Where we at We had stage thirty two in the

1381
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: Tour de France.

1382
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 2: I'm at stage who cares usually don't say it too loud. Okay,

1383
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 2: you are asking the wrong person. I don't know anything

1384
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 2: about that. All I know is you know when it

1385
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,439
Speaker 2: gets down to the end. Usually Twitter will tell.

1386
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: Me TVT tournament at Hinkle coming up tonight. The endy

1387
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 1: of the team bowed.

1388
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 3: Out over the weekend assembly ball come on fail the

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01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 3: name like that? That name was so good which fail

1390
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: Harder has got a lot of local ties.

1391
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to Darius Adams, Jesse Bingham from Undy,

1392
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: Kobe Wester Webster Park tutor product there. Actually watched a

1393
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: good amount of that game during the rain on Saturday there,

1394
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: so a big second half of them, simply ball. It

1395
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: looked like all those lead guys were hurt, like Yogi

1396
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: and James. You guys had James Blackman junr on right.

1397
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he told us that he probably wasn't gonna

1398
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 2: play because of some knee recovery things going on.

1399
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: So the Butler team all good dogs. Taylor Tyler Wideman.

1400
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Lake Central product there. I don't

1401
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: remember him shooting the three back of Butler, but he

1402
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: had a couple threes. They beat Valpo, the Valpo team

1403
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: on Saturday, so i'd be tonight eight o'clock. If you're

1404
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,440
Speaker 1: looking for something new over there at Hinkle, it's all

1405
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: good dogs against fail Harder. The winner of that goes

1406
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: to the regional championship, which is tomorrow night, and that

1407
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 1: would create a final eight there again a million dollar

1408
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: prize for the TBT tournaments. All right on the other side,

1409
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 1: much more on the Colts Conversation Report day is tomorrow.

1410
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: Training camp practices will be Wednesday, Thursday and Friday morning

1411
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon here in week one. Anything lingering from the

1412
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: PACER Summer League, we'll touch on that as well. It's

1413
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 1: Kevin Bow and James Boyd and Mark Dighton here on

1414
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: a Monday. So do does Indy like Angel Reese after

1415
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: her tweet over the weekend? Chris call from visit Indy

1416
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: maybe printing that out and he had on some pamphlets.

1417
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 2: She was right, so it was hot for the rain

1418
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 2: started the last couple of days.

1419
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: Well, she was talking about the party, and I don't

1420
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:34,560
Speaker 1: think she was talking about the temperature.

1421
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 2: I think it was both. I think Kelsey Plumb might

1422
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 2: get more hate now. Yeah, but Angel res actually got

1423
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 2: a very good reaction from the crowd over a game

1424
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 2: of shorthouse when she got introduced for her second Street

1425
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 2: All Star.

1426
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 1: We saw good amout Angel Reese's apparel over at WNBA

1427
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: Live on Saturday. Angel tweeted this we and Indie, but

1428
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: it feels like Miami. So that was temperature. That wasn't club.

1429
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: I was kind of hoping that was guess both honestly

1430
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: electric downtown.

1431
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 2: I think the best cities usually have when it comes

1432
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 2: to the club scene, usually has the best weather. And

1433
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 2: so yeah, she was outside.

1434
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: Tyre's Halliburton on one of the wheeling carts making appearance

1435
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: at WNBA All Star Game.

1436
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. One of my buddies was asking me, Hey, is

1437
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 2: he going to be here? And I was like, yes,

1438
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 2: he lives here and she also loves the w Yeah, exactly,

1439
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 2: and she was kind of like looking at me like

1440
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 2: are you sure? And I was like yes, and not

1441
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 2: to be rude, but what else does he have to

1442
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 2: do right now? He's kind of just waiting until he

1443
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 2: can really begin his rehab, and so I figured he

1444
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 2: would do like as most junkies do. You go and

1445
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 2: watch basketball, and that's what you do.

1446
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: That's James Ward, I'm Kevin Bow and Mark dykedon again.

1447
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: We're with you all week long. We'll be up in Westfield.

1448
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: James and I coming up Tuesday through Friday morning practice times,

1449
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,479
Speaker 1: which means we'll have morning shows out there for colts

1450
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: training camp. You know, it's interesting. I was watching Kathy ngelebirth,

1451
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 1: the WNA commissioner. I was watching her press conference over

1452
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: the weekend and and at one point she mentioned, I

1453
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: think that the discussion was generally around TV ratings or

1454
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: just you know, watching your league and the appeal around it.

1455
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: And she had just brought up the Pacers in the

1456
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: Thunder going to a game seven, And I don't know

1457
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: if you felt this way since the Pacer season ended,

1458
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: what do we are we like a full month away?

1459
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: I think it was like June twenty third, June twenty

1460
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: second might have been the last Pacer game. I hadn't

1461
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 1: had a reminder in a while, but when she said that,

1462
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:36,799
Speaker 1: I was reminded. I was like, Oh, yeah, the Pacers

1463
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: in the Thunder played a seven game NBA Finals, like

1464
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: we just watched, and I get the ending, and I

1465
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: think we've touched on the ending and obviously seen tyres

1466
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 1: Halbern on one of those walking scooter carts is a

1467
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: quite harsh reminder of it. But I'm like, we just

1468
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: got a once in a lifetime Pacer season. All of it.

1469
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, do we just get a once

1470
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 2: in lifetime season?

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01:08:59,040 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: Period?

1472
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 2: When it comes to NBA basketball, I don't know if

1473
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: any team can replicate that. That was incredible, the game winners,

1474
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 2: the dramatic comebacks, not having like the bona fide superstar

1475
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: in my opinion, and having as Miles Turner who is

1476
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 2: now I guess has defected the power of friendship, pushing

1477
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 2: them to the brink of history. So that was it

1478
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 2: was a fun ride. It was truly, I mean, it

1479
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 2: was high stakes, it was stressful, it was joyful. I

1480
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 2: was thinking the other day, Kevin, remember the show we

1481
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 2: had to do after you know, the same that that

1482
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 2: Jim Mersey died. Unfortunately, was also the same night that

1483
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 2: the crazy game tying shot in the garden happened, where

1484
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 2: tires Taliburton hits the back iron, it goes way up

1485
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 2: to the sky and it comes down. So we had

1486
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:51,839
Speaker 2: a variety of just unique experiences because of this Pacers

1487
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 2: team that I don't know if we'll ever be replicated,

1488
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 2: And honestly, I feel confident in saying it will never

1489
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:56,959
Speaker 2: be replicated.

1490
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember saying at one point, I forget

1491
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: if it was after the Cleveland comeback, in the Halliburn shotter,

1492
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: if it was game one of the knicks, But you know,

1493
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 1: it's just like or we got eight points and nine

1494
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 1: seconds on like four different occasions.

1495
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 2: Yes, and I remember you telling me like, hey, this

1496
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 2: is for all the kids who didn't experience this because

1497
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: you were too young. Obviously you weren't born yet. This

1498
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 2: is what it felt like. And we got that pretty

1499
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:28,560
Speaker 2: much every like once a week for a month. It

1500
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 2: was crazy again. We'll be up tomorrow report day from Westfield.

1501
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 2: I believe Kenny.

1502
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 1: Moore will be joining us, so he will be one

1503
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 1: of hopefully two Colts players that will join us on set.

1504
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: He was busy this weekend, was he not? I thought

1505
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: Chris sworn I saw him involved in some activities. I

1506
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: don't know. Kenny's pretty pretty active in the community, so

1507
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: maybe I'm thinking of something else. Did I Did you

1508
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: see him at any of the events that you were at?

1509
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 2: Or I did not, But I do know that he so,

1510
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 2: Kenny Moore and Zire Franklin was pickleball, Yeah, and it

1511
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 2: was Erica Wheeler put on former indian NFL out the

1512
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 2: Seattle Storm, and put on a pickleball tournament here in Indianapolis,

1513
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 2: or at least in the Indianapolis area over all Star weekend.

1514
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 2: Those two were involved. I did get a chance to

1515
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 2: see Erica Wheeler. She stopped by and spoke at a

1516
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 2: panel at one of the stores one of my friends

1517
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 2: was involved with. It's called we Don't Run from Adversity

1518
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 2: over on mass af and you know, we go to

1519
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 2: the store and she was speaking on the panel, and

1520
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 2: I think that she was very fitting for the store

1521
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 2: in aam and the clothing brand is called literally we

1522
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 2: Don't Run from Adversity, And I was thinking to Erica

1523
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 2: Wheeler is the embodiment of that. And so I had

1524
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:34,560
Speaker 2: a chance to kind of catch up with her. And

1525
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 2: she still has a lot of love for Indianapolis and

1526
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 2: it's still loved by Indianapolis.

1527
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: Right back Kenny Moore was always struck me as a

1528
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 1: cult player that if you were asked to do some

1529
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 1: sort of decathlon type of like sporting event, like, go

1530
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: tell Kenny Moore to play soccer. Go tell him to

1531
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 1: be like a defensive point guard in basketball. Go tell

1532
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 1: him to play pickleball. He would probably be like my

1533
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: first pick and be like no, no, no, that dude can.

1534
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: He strikes me as an insanely gifted athlete.

1535
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if you ever had a chance

1536
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 2: to talk to him, but he was telling me like

1537
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,959
Speaker 2: he's he's pretty much and he didn't say it arrogantly.

1538
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 2: And Kenny isn't even that type of person. But he's

1539
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 2: pretty good at all the sports. Like he's not someone

1540
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,560
Speaker 2: who just like he was telling me, I think he

1541
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 2: played a little baseball growing up, you know, not clueles

1542
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 2: in the basketball court. And I do think that, you know,

1543
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 2: besides like size, which might have been the reason why

1544
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 2: you know, you don't go to basketball route or whatever,

1545
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,639
Speaker 2: but athletically as far as just jumping, moving and things

1546
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 2: like that, Like, yeah, he can hang on anybody. And

1547
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 2: he's got the longest arms ever, which is probably why

1548
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 2: he plays dB.

1549
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: So again, kennymore the second schedule to join us coming

1550
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 1: up tomorrow will be up there, report they Chris Ballard

1551
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 1: scheduled to meet the media as a whole a little

1552
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 1: bit closer to lunchtime. One more Pacer item that I

1553
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: was thinking about kind of exiting summer league actually we're

1554
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 1: chatting a little bit on the broadcast. I couldn't believe

1555
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,719
Speaker 1: the Pacers were on ESPN on nine o'clock. At nine o'clock.

1556
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 1: That was after the WNBA Skills competition. It's like, Oh,

1557
01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 1: PACER's Pelicans upcoming on summer League. I'm like, oh, my summer.

1558
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 2: Sports Canacter's a bit thin. They'll take whatever they can get.

1559
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,520
Speaker 1: Yes, here comes a five minute feature on Kka Tominaga

1560
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 1: here for the Pacer Summer League. Ben Nicmatherin's a starter

1561
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: next year?

1562
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 4: Right?

1563
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1564
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 2: For yes, did the word right out of my mouth? Yes?

1565
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I think I'm just making sure.

1566
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, oh lord who okay, well, Devil's advocate?

1567
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 2: Who would be impla Ben Shephard? Yeah, I I don't

1568
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 2: know that answer, man. That dude has to he's a

1569
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 2: number six pick and he's not a scrub. He's I mean,

1570
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 2: he's not a bust.

1571
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: That one think why Rick Carlisle has loved is he's

1572
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: loved to have multiple ball handlers in the starting lineup.

1573
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: He's had that with Tyrey Saliburn Andrew Demhart. So if

1574
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 1: you put Ben nic mather in the starting lineup, ben

1575
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: Nicmatherin and Aaron E. Smith not probably initiating and creating

1576
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: for you, like Andrew Nebhard can sometimes take that off

1577
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: of Tyr's haliburt plate. So yes, I am of the

1578
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 1: same assumption as you, But I don't know. It's a

1579
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: question that pacers organizationally, I don't know if they meet

1580
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 1: it with the same amount of convincing that you two

1581
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: head hmm.

1582
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: You honestly that that might be something to keep an

1583
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 2: eye on, because that viewpoint matters a lot more than

1584
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 2: our viewpoint. But I would start him. I mean, if

1585
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 2: you can't figure it out with Tyres Halliburton. Now Miles

1586
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 2: Turner is gone, you're kind of going a little bit

1587
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 2: through a reset year. This is the year to get

1588
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 2: the pall in his hands and rock out while you're

1589
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 2: talking about possibly an extension as well too.

1590
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 1: You like to see. But this gets back into the

1591
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: debate we've had. You're asking guys to be in roles

1592
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 1: that you're theoretically not going to pay them for, right, Yeah,

1593
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: that's true. So that's where this gets into our Friday conversation.

1594
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 1: And for those that missed it on Friday with Matherin,

1595
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: I think the hardest thing with Matherin contractually is there's

1596
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 1: this question of like, what is he? I guess to

1597
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 1: simplify it, is he a starter? Or is he just

1598
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: like a very good scoring six man this year? You're again,

1599
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: I assume he will be a starter. We'll see how

1600
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 1: it all plays out. But if he goes off and

1601
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: has a great year, all of a sudden, his team

1602
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:21,519
Speaker 1: and him are going to say, no, no, no, you

1603
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: pay him to be a lead scorer for you in

1604
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 1: a starting lineup. Oras the Pacers might sit there and say, well,

1605
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: when Tyres comes back, he's actually more of a six

1606
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:33,920
Speaker 1: man score. I think the Matherin thing lacks so much clarity,

1607
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 1: I guess is what I'm getting at, What is he?

1608
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: How does the organization view him? And how does the

1609
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 1: rest of the NBA view him? All three of those things.

1610
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: He's got to obviously prove himself at another level. Then

1611
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,720
Speaker 1: how do the Pacers view him? And then how to

1612
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 1: twenty nine other NBA teams view.

1613
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 2: That is a good question, because I mean, awesome, it

1614
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: comes down to what your team thinks of you. And

1615
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,680
Speaker 2: when we saw that very clearly when it came to

1616
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 2: when it comes to the Miles Turner signing with the Bucks,

1617
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:09,800
Speaker 2: like the Bucks clearly thought that he was better or

1618
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 2: worth more than perhaps some other teams or perhaps even

1619
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 2: the Pacers. But just takes one, right, Yeah, all it

1620
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 2: text is one. And but I just think that my

1621
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 2: final point on this will be if you want to

1622
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 2: get back to title contention, ideally the quickest way to

1623
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 2: do that will be for Benedic Mathern or Jerris Walker

1624
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 2: to become a dude. Yeah, and I think the year

1625
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 2: to kind of see can Benedict Matherin, with a bigger

1626
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,800
Speaker 2: workload become a dude. I think that he's been a

1627
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 2: dude in moments, but can you do that for us

1628
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 2: every single night? That's the question.

1629
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: More dude moments needed from Benedict mather And that's the

1630
01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 1: voice of James Boyd. We'll throw some Colts questions James

1631
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 1: a way coming up on the other side, this is

1632
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 1: the fan Mordi Chow. Thank you for beginning your week

1633
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: on a nice start this Monday morning here in Indy.

1634
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 1: Thank you for starting with us. Fan Morni Chow here,

1635
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:04,560
Speaker 1: come up. We will call Westfield home Tuesday through Friday,

1636
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: report day tomorrow for training camp. At this time we

1637
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,960
Speaker 1: will have players supporting to Grand Park tomorrow again, Kenny

1638
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 1: Moore scheduled to join us, hoping to have another Colts

1639
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 1: player as well. We'll keep them coming all throughout training

1640
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 1: camp in some way, shape or form. I think all

1641
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: of our shows will be out there. We'll be out

1642
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: there for the morning practices. We had Jolie Erickson on earlier,

1643
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,560
Speaker 1: James and I asked him, you know, a non quarterback

1644
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:32,560
Speaker 1: related kind of your biggest question for Chris Ballard And

1645
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 1: he said, you know, is there anything more to do

1646
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:39,560
Speaker 1: at linebacker? Would you like to see something happen at linebacker?

1647
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 1: You typically can see this around the NFL, you know,

1648
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: right before the start of training camp, Right at the

1649
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 1: start of training camp, you see some veteran guys signed

1650
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,760
Speaker 1: with teams. We brought up Desmond Ritter earlier in the

1651
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:51,720
Speaker 1: show and again he was in mini camp tryout for

1652
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 1: the Colts. He's joining the Bengals in that quarterback room,

1653
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: and he brought up linebacker. Are you holding your breath

1654
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: or waiting for a linebacker move for the Colts or No.

1655
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:10,439
Speaker 2: I'm not holding my breath, but I do wonder can

1656
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 2: you just add a little more experience there, because as

1657
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 2: we've seen in the years past, when Chris Balla has

1658
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 2: kind of gone into this season. Really, the Colts front

1659
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 2: office as a whole has gone into a season with

1660
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 2: a glaring hole on one of the positions in the roster.

1661
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 2: We've seen this come back to bite them in the

1662
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 2: worst way, and I feel even more inclined to perhaps

1663
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 2: bring somebody in because you don't know the status of

1664
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 2: Zion Franklin, well as we don't know of Xia Franklin

1665
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 2: and his availability for camp. So I would think if

1666
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 2: he's not available for the start of camp and Jaylen

1667
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 2: Carlid is still recovering, you might want to get some

1668
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 2: more veteran bodies just in there.

1669
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:52,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, be a little surprised if they do it. I mean,

1670
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: you obviously bring up health, and yeah, that could certainly

1671
01:18:56,920 --> 01:19:00,600
Speaker 1: play into it, But I think the grand scheme of

1672
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,519
Speaker 1: NFL positions, frankly, they just don't really care about linebacker

1673
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 1: that much.

1674
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but again, do you get to a point where

1675
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 2: you should have cared And that's the only thing I'm

1676
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 2: cool with, whatever it is to your point. But if

1677
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 2: we get to a point in the season and we're

1678
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,680
Speaker 2: all like about week three, oh man, you should have

1679
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 2: signed a veteran. You should have invested more money here.

1680
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 2: If we're having that conversation, it's gonna be a very

1681
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,160
Speaker 2: very bad look because you did have opportunities to go

1682
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 2: get some of these players.

1683
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 1: It's not a question and answer will get tomorrow. But

1684
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 1: as we get closer to the start of the season,

1685
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't see a lot of Traveri's Ward

1686
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: in the spring participating in the team drills. That is,

1687
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, the biggest free agent signing financially in what

1688
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: franchise history. And the thought is that lu Ana Arumo

1689
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: feels like they want to explore some shadow role with him.

1690
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: And if you just look at the start of the season,

1691
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 1: for example, James, I mean you start with Tyreek Hill

1692
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: and Jalen Waddell, then you play Courtland Sutton the next week.

1693
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 1: I think Pokunakua is a couple weeks later. Mean, on paper,

1694
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: some of those guys would fit that thought. I would

1695
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: say probably even setting into Coop a little bit more,

1696
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: because you know, those rooms maybe drop off a little

1697
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: bit at whiteout for those respective teams. But again, that

1698
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 1: is a defensive wrinkle the Colts haven't had, and now

1699
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 1: they feel like they do. I'm curious to see can

1700
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 1: Ward do that, how often they do it and how

1701
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: effective will that be?

1702
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 2: That is a good point you made in honestly, you know,

1703
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 2: Ward has talked a big game.

1704
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:39,759
Speaker 1: And he talks like a corner.

1705
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 2: He was two years ago a second team All Pro,

1706
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 2: and I believe he has like the most pass breakups

1707
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 2: in a single season in forty nine ers history. Keep

1708
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 2: in mind they you know, have defensive backs by the

1709
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 2: name of, or had defensive backs by the name of

1710
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: Dion Sanders and Ronnie Lott back in the day. So

1711
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 2: I think that you know, he is someone who is

1712
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 2: certainly talented. But to your point, Kevin, it's like it

1713
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 2: is in any sport any year. What have you done

1714
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 2: for me lately? And are you still that player now?

1715
01:21:07,080 --> 01:21:08,600
Speaker 2: He says he is, And I believe a lot of

1716
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 2: it again, last year had to do with, you know,

1717
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 2: the off the field tragedy, losing his daughter and you know,

1718
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 2: had a couple of injuries here and there, but just

1719
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 2: mentally it was hard for him. And he says he's

1720
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 2: back mentally and feeling refreshed. And does that translate to

1721
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 2: better play on the field, and the Colts will certainly,

1722
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 2: I think needed to become a much better defense I

1723
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 2: think by the fault, that's probably better on defense because

1724
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,839
Speaker 2: of the changing scheme and you know, the personnel additions

1725
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 2: that they've made. But to be an elite defense, which

1726
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 2: is what they're striving for, he's got to be a dude.

1727
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: He's playing a lot of playoff games.

1728
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 2: I just cannot He's got more experience than that entire

1729
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 2: room combined.

1730
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 1: I spik anymore, and I go back to the George

1731
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: Carloft extension from the weekend, because the pretty product signs

1732
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 1: a ninety three million dollar extension across four years. He's

1733
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: played three years in the NFL and all he knows

1734
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:02,640
Speaker 1: is playing in the super Bowl. That must be a

1735
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: pretty good life.

1736
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 2: When you are paired with the best quarterback of this generation. Yes,

1737
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: it is a great life. But he's certainly a player,

1738
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 2: and he's somebody who.

1739
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 3: Is.

1740
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:17,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm gonna say there's always a couple of

1741
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 2: you know, NBA NFL players. You look at him like, man,

1742
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 2: that guy has a ring, like I know he's on

1743
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 2: that team, like for example, Shady McCoy, l Shan McCoy,

1744
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:30,560
Speaker 2: he has a ring from I believe the Chiefs, And

1745
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 2: it's like he was on one of those teams, but no,

1746
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 2: George coloftis No, you don't get that vibe from him

1747
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 2: at all because he is a very, very very talented player.

1748
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 2: And I think, is this a conversation. Are we talking

1749
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,600
Speaker 2: big time extension in a couple of years for a

1750
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 2: lot to lot too, because I think this year again

1751
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,560
Speaker 2: we're talking about steps forward on defense. He's got to

1752
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,640
Speaker 2: be a dude too. Last year rookie year hit the

1753
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 2: rookie wall. But you know you asked earlier Kevin about

1754
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 2: quitty Payer lied to Lot. I think pay it was

1755
01:22:59,920 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 2: he who he is, who he is, no matter the scheme. Now,

1756
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 2: if he proves me wrong, feel free to, you know,

1757
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,640
Speaker 2: show this in my face. But I think once you

1758
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,600
Speaker 2: get you know, this far into your career, expecting you

1759
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 2: to suddenly have this leap into you know, I don't

1760
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,080
Speaker 2: know if e lad is the right word, but like

1761
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 2: a higher status to be a real difference maker, a

1762
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 2: game wrecker at this point going into what year five,

1763
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 2: I'm just not so sure about that. But whereas Layatsu,

1764
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 2: you're still figuring this thing out and is there more

1765
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 2: to tap into because you just have more upside as

1766
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 2: a younger player.

1767
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, contract here coming up here for quitty Hey, all right,

1768
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: then the other side, The latest on Caitlin Clark is

1769
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,640
Speaker 1: the Fever returned action tomorrow nights. We'll share that with

1770
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:48,719
Speaker 1: you nine o'clock hour. Fan morning show Ben Pickman covers

1771
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: the WNBA for the Athletic. He'll join us coming up

1772
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 1: here at the bottom of the hour. Again, the Fever

1773
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 1: did have a practice yesterday for their non All stars

1774
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: late last night. That also was immediate availability with Stephanie White's.

1775
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 1: The update there on Caitlyn Clark sounds like she will

1776
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: not play tomorrow night, and with a busy weekend, her

1777
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: further evaluation of the right growing. It sounds like that's

1778
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 1: taking place like right now, early this week. She'll meet

1779
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,639
Speaker 1: with some doctors. The hope is to get a clear

1780
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 1: evaluation and James, I know it doesn't sound ideal, but

1781
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 1: I'd be totally good with not seeing her until sometime

1782
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 1: in August. I think she needs real, real rest.

1783
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1784
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 2: As I've said over the last couple of weeks, as

1785
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 2: Caitlyn has dealt with these injuries, I think the league,

1786
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 2: the team, whoever it is who decides how long she'll

1787
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 2: be out. They're hesitant to say out loud how long

1788
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 2: she'll be out, because in my mind, I think it's

1789
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 2: kind of a joke to say she's day to day.

1790
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 2: What do you mean we've said this for weeks now

1791
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 2: or throughout the entire season. When it comes to these

1792
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 2: injuries that have sort of piled up, you need to

1793
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 2: be telling us she's weak to week or she's going

1794
01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 2: to be out for a few weeks, she'll be a

1795
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 2: reevaluated in three whatever the case may. Get up here

1796
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 2: and tell us every day she's Deaday for what? For who?

1797
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 2: Because again, if you rush her back out there and

1798
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,640
Speaker 2: she pulls another groin or you know, a hamstring or

1799
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be, then what do you say?

1800
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know if that's like pr trying to

1801
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: like save ticket sale face or.

1802
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,760
Speaker 2: Maybe perhaps, but at some point protect a player and

1803
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 2: just protect the antecrity of the game to be like,

1804
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,320
Speaker 2: if she's not healthy, just say that.

1805
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 1: Well, and to be fair to the fever the first

1806
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 1: injury she had, I believe they did put out a

1807
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 1: statements that you'd missed two weeks. Yes, that's there has

1808
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: been a point where they have gone there, So.

1809
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:39,040
Speaker 2: I well, I guess what, And I'm glad you pointed

1810
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 2: that out. Because I had honestly forgotten about that. So

1811
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 2: I do want to, you know, backtrack a little bit.

1812
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 2: But then I'll counter and say, well, what's stopping them

1813
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 2: for saying that now?

1814
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 1: Right?

1815
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I because you know that again, she's

1816
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 2: kind of been dealing with some stuff all year, and you're.

1817
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: Kind of in a weird spot as a team. You're

1818
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: twelve and eleven, you've got what twenty games left, twenty

1819
01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 1: one games left?

1820
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,200
Speaker 2: Something like, Yeah, they're the six see currently top eight

1821
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 2: teams make it in the WNBA. No, doesn't matter what

1822
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:04,600
Speaker 2: conference you're in.

1823
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 1: So you're not You're okay, You're not secure by any

1824
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:13,840
Speaker 1: means into a playoff spot. They have proven they can

1825
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 1: win some games without her. It hasn't been just like

1826
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 1: absolutely horrific without her. So you know, there is part

1827
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: of me that says, all right, can you weather whatever

1828
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 1: storm here for let's call it two to three weeks

1829
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 1: without her? That would still leave a month in probably

1830
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 1: a week left of the regular season. The thought there

1831
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: is you obviously were a reintegrator. You hope that you

1832
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 1: are whatever a little bit above five hundred with her

1833
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: in the lineup. That then secures your playoff spot and

1834
01:26:45,120 --> 01:26:47,679
Speaker 1: you see what happens because No. Two or three seed

1835
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 1: is going to want to see the Fever opposite them

1836
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 1: in round one with a healthy Caitlin Clark.

1837
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 2: No, and they've shown when healthy they can play some

1838
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 2: of the best basket NW that can beat some of

1839
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:05,439
Speaker 2: the best teams. And I get people might roll their

1840
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 2: eyes in different markets and say, oh, well, the Fever

1841
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 2: are twelve and eleven for a reason. And they've also

1842
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 2: lost to some of the worst teams in the league,

1843
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 2: including the Connecticut Sun. But my biggest thing is just

1844
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 2: get her healthy and then you just figure it out

1845
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 2: from there.

1846
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 5: Man.

1847
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 2: Like, if you go in to a series and you

1848
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,800
Speaker 2: have the best player or the second best player and

1849
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 2: she's playing healthy in Kitlyn Clark, you got a shot.

1850
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 2: Because in my in basketball, probably more than any other sport,

1851
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 2: if you got the best player, I feel like you

1852
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 2: always have like a puncher's chance of pulling off an upset.

1853
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 2: And keep in mind, I believe the first round of

1854
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 2: the WNBA playoffs is what three games? So this isn't

1855
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 2: some super long series that you're facing.

1856
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: Is it still three? Did I hear correctly? The finals

1857
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 1: is going to seven? Yes?

1858
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 2: I believe the finals is going to seven. I have

1859
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 2: the check and double check.

1860
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 1: Round one is still three.

1861
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 2: Y'all knew it was three last year. Yeah, the gag

1862
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 2: got sweat. They lost the first two, which is crazy

1863
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:05,640
Speaker 2: to say because I wasn't at The first two was

1864
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:07,679
Speaker 2: in Connecticut, right, They didn't even get a home game, Yeah,

1865
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,880
Speaker 2: which they twitched that. I believe it now. It's one

1866
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 2: one one, Okay, I do like that. So you're guaranteed

1867
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 2: a home playoff game Boy, if you steal that.

1868
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 1: Game one, man, I know you got a home game

1869
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 1: to try and move on to the next round. Mark,

1870
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 1: the favorite thing your girls did this weekend related to

1871
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 1: the w NBA All Star weekend. Mark and I ran

1872
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: into each other at the WNBA Live at the Convention

1873
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: Center Saturday afternoon.

1874
01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 3: I would say they liked the Bounce event that was

1875
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 3: early Saturday morning that they did. That was from the

1876
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 3: library all the way to Monuments Circle. That was a

1877
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 3: good time because they did a lot of activity.

1878
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 1: Around the circle of kids at that.

1879
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,639
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that was a very good time.

1880
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 3: It was insane to hear the echo of all the

1881
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 3: thousands of basketballs going down the zone.

1882
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: We get in my lane dribbling down here.

1883
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 3: There was mascots running around. The colts cheerleaders are out

1884
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 3: there blue with signing autographs.

1885
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 5: It was.

1886
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,679
Speaker 2: It was a wild time. So that was actually pretty cool.

1887
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 3: They did like the wn live stuff, all the free

1888
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 3: swag they got, so I mean, I think we have

1889
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 3: more starry than we know what to do with in

1890
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 3: our refrigerator right now.

1891
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. I did like the potato chips that came with stars.

1892
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 2: Those were very good. Yes, there's cinnamon sugar, which the

1893
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 2: kids are big fans of it.

1894
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 1: He went for the parmesan garlic.

1895
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 2: Those were good as well.

1896
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 1: I'd like to never been prouder as a father.

1897
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 2: Add some hummus to that. I feel like it'd be

1898
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 2: chef's kiss would sound good.

1899
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 3: But no, they had a good time and then they

1900
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:24,799
Speaker 3: did the skills competition, but like you said, not exactly

1901
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 3: kids friendly because their regulation rims. I'm like, what what

1902
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,439
Speaker 3: kid is hitting these shots? I texted James' is like,

1903
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 3: none of these kids are hitting any of these any

1904
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 3: of these shots.

1905
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 1: Why the circle was so great? The circle monument circle

1906
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: here had you know, different levels of the goal. Very easy.

1907
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 2: Yeah to access a few or some oh you know,

1908
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:42,560
Speaker 2: I got a couple of dunks.

1909
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 1: In just a little bit younger.

1910
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I got to be able to, you know,

1911
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 2: live dad's room somewhere.

1912
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:47,640
Speaker 3: And then they had all the Panini cards that they

1913
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 3: accumulated from the day and so we're watching the All

1914
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 3: Star game Saturday night. They had them all laid out

1915
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 3: on our floor and they're going over like which player

1916
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 3: they had and was that player in the game at

1917
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 3: the time.

1918
01:29:56,720 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 1: I like that, Like she's in the shoes ever.

1919
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 5: I love that.

1920
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rosie went Paige Beckers. That was coming upset for me.

1921
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 1: She did not take the Kaitlin Clark.

1922
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1923
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:09,839
Speaker 3: My other daughter Emma took Page Beckers, and then Addison

1924
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 3: too Kaitlin Clark. And then she opened the Paniny cards

1925
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,719
Speaker 3: and got a Caitlin Clark card and she's very excited.

1926
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:18,799
Speaker 2: So your point about Page when they played here shortly

1927
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 2: before the All Star break, that was the only other

1928
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:27,040
Speaker 2: player to me that drew the reaction that Kitlyn draws

1929
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:28,120
Speaker 2: everywhere she goes.

1930
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you said, I had a few

1931
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:32,759
Speaker 1: people that live by They went to the butler yukon

1932
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 1: game over Hinkle.

1933
01:30:33,680 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1934
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they could not believe and they went because

1935
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: of Page. But they could not believe. Just the sheer

1936
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 1: number of people over at Hinkle to watch her, and

1937
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 1: obviously yukonsud draw itself and you always got some local flavor.

1938
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 1: But still, uh yeah, I think, I mean not to

1939
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 1: like rank cheering or like the loudness of cheers, but

1940
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 1: I guess I probably would you put Page second behind

1941
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 1: Caitlin or I guess I don't know Angel Reese up there.

1942
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, I probably put Page second just I feel

1943
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 2: like she has more of a universal type of love.

1944
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 1: And she had more hype coming into college than Caitlyn.

1945
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, she was Caitlyn before Caitlyn when it

1946
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 2: comes to the you know, attention explosion. But yeah, it

1947
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 2: was crazy. I mean the way people reacted to her,

1948
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 2: it reminds me again of like Steph Curry, Lebron James

1949
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 2: and people of that ilk. But when we're talking about

1950
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 2: the queen of them all, it is still probably Caitlyn,

1951
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:28,640
Speaker 2: not even probably still Caitlyn. Like the fan demand is

1952
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,160
Speaker 2: absolutely crazy. I thought it was really cool that Caitlyn,

1953
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 2: even though she was injured for the All Star Game.

1954
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 2: I believe during halftime it might have been some kids

1955
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 2: with some very you know, affluent parents who were down

1956
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:40,559
Speaker 2: there getting her to sign stuff, and she was being

1957
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 2: very graciual with her time with that as well.

1958
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 1: Now, not to get too much into your personal life,

1959
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:50,560
Speaker 1: but it sounded like you had some fun entertainment experiences

1960
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:51,160
Speaker 1: at night.

1961
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I pretty much went to every party that my

1962
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 2: friends were like, hey, do you want to go? I

1963
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 2: was like, okay, cool, signed it up at a few

1964
01:32:00,280 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 2: different establishments, and as a non drinker, I did not

1965
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 2: have any hangovers the next day, but I certainly had

1966
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 2: a good time. I was dancing, and you know, got

1967
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 2: to see a lot of people in the w NBA

1968
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:12,680
Speaker 2: space who were out and about enjoying. Indiammi.

1969
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:17,679
Speaker 1: Let's just say that any runnings, any name drop, I will.

1970
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 2: Say that I do'll name drop this person. Yeah.

1971
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 5: No.

1972
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 2: The coolest thing was I ended up at a party

1973
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,719
Speaker 2: at Commission Row, first time ever going there by the way.

1974
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 1: That police looks, yeah, and too afraid to walk inside.

1975
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 2: Leslie, I mean Lisa Leslie was in there, and when

1976
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 2: she walked by, I was like, dang, Like that is

1977
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 2: like one of the goats of women's basketball. So seeing

1978
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,720
Speaker 2: her in person and seeing a few other w NBA

1979
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 2: players like uh Janeya Boom Mackay was walking into one

1980
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:48,640
Speaker 2: of the parties when I was leaving and she was

1981
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 2: asking how we were doing. I'm like, wow, Like, you're

1982
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 2: on ESPN every day and your you know, sister plays

1983
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 2: in the WNBA. You played in the WNBA as well,

1984
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 2: So that was really cool. I saw Flage you know,

1985
01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 2: basically grabbed the mike and then give a performance, you know,

1986
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 2: fall j Johnson for it for Lsulsu legend, former Angel

1987
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 2: Reices teammate in the National Champion. Why of the best players.

1988
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 2: I believe she's gonna be the running for number one

1989
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 2: pick next year in the WNBA draft. But yeah, So

1990
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 2: I saw a lot of different people throughout the weekend.

1991
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 2: Bless you, and it was h It was fun. I

1992
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:19,679
Speaker 2: had a good time. It was crazy.

1993
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 3: How like, we came back downtown yesterday with my brother

1994
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 3: and sister in law her were in visiting. We were

1995
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 3: driving downtown and it's almost like the WNB All Star

1996
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:30,920
Speaker 3: Game never happened because they took I'm all the signage

1997
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 3: off Gainbridge that's completely gone already. They moved in and out.

1998
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 3: It was kind of wild. So my niece was like, oh,

1999
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark's on the thing, Like, yeah, that's about all it.

2000
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:42,559
Speaker 3: I mean, the street signs are still there, but they

2001
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 3: they were breaking everything down very quickly. So that just

2002
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 3: shows you how quick these events come and go. I

2003
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:49,720
Speaker 3: don't know how they're set up for Brickyard. I don't

2004
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 3: know if it's like the summertime, like it's lighter in

2005
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,759
Speaker 3: the mornings, it's lighter at night, and we're just generally

2006
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 3: out more. And I'm trying to think, like, you know,

2007
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 3: w NBA All Star Game with February, it's obviously winter darker,

2008
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 3: you know, when you have whatever. Even the Super Bowl.

2009
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:06,640
Speaker 1: I know the weather was good, but still it just

2010
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 1: seemed like I noticed so much more of the signage. Yeah,

2011
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:11,720
Speaker 1: this time and again, I mean when we're driving into

2012
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 1: work it's light out. It's not always light out at

2013
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 1: other times, but it just seemed like the signage was

2014
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,439
Speaker 1: bigger and everywhere bigger, and not just talking about the

2015
01:34:19,479 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark, you know, Nike ad on the JW.

2016
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 3: No, there's Page Becker's banners hanging down, there's Tamika Catching's

2017
01:34:26,600 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 3: like murals painted up and everything.

2018
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 2: It was all over the place.

2019
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 1: Shifting gears a little bit here, Colts. We'll talk with

2020
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:34,879
Speaker 1: Ben Pickman coming up in nine thirty from WNBA standpoint.

2021
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:39,439
Speaker 1: But we did see a player the Colts had in

2022
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 1: for a mini camp tryout, Desmond Ritter James obviously veteran quarterback.

2023
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: I think people pretty familiar with Ritter. They had him

2024
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 1: in during mid June when Anthony.

2025
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 2: Here's last time I'd take a Ritter of ice cream?

2026
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 1: But I was think a ridder high school and how

2027
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 1: the spelling is different there. Shout out to Saint Mike,

2028
01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 1: shout out to Rider of high school. He has joined

2029
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:03,519
Speaker 1: the Bengals. So the tryout here at the Colts did

2030
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:08,919
Speaker 1: not lead to a ninety man roster spot Snoop Puntley, CJ. Bethard,

2031
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:12,000
Speaker 1: two other quarterbacks the Bengals tried out, so they had

2032
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: a three person tryout there. I think Bethard we've seen

2033
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 1: backup Trevor Lawrence before. Hell, he might have even started

2034
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 1: against the Colts. We saw Snoop Puntley last year played

2035
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins against the Colts. So when you see

2036
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,840
Speaker 1: these names, Ritter trying out for the Colts, Huntley cup

2037
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 1: of coffee around various degrees in the NFL, that's pro

2038
01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 1: bowler Tyler Huntley as well. CJ. Bethard kind of say

2039
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:36,759
Speaker 1: more deal. Do you see the colts in this market

2040
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:39,240
Speaker 1: at all? Or do you strictly look at and say no,

2041
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 1: as long as Anthony Rigison's healthy, it's going to be

2042
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 1: some former fashion Daniel Jones starting, Anthony Rigerson backing up,

2043
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 1: or vice versa, and then Riley Leondard or Jason Bean

2044
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 1: will be your third quarterback.

2045
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2046
01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:52,240
Speaker 2: I think the only time we would see that sort

2047
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 2: of movement from a quarterback standpoint, KB is if one

2048
01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 2: of the two quarterbacks that you think will be your

2049
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 2: potuer starter gets hurt, then I will go out and

2050
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:04,200
Speaker 2: get a veteran. But until then, I don't think that

2051
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 2: I would add a veteran like right now to sort

2052
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 2: of be QB three over Riley Leonard. I think ry

2053
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,639
Speaker 2: Leonard is a fine QB three. But to your point

2054
01:36:14,720 --> 01:36:17,120
Speaker 2: from earlier in the show, no, I don't think that

2055
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:19,120
Speaker 2: he can be a backup, which means he would in theory,

2056
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 2: be one play away from starting.

2057
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:20,560
Speaker 3: For you.

2058
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:23,560
Speaker 2: No, I'm not there yet with Ryley Leonard. Maybe I

2059
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:26,240
Speaker 2: will get there, but I mean you saw his college career.

2060
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:28,839
Speaker 2: I saw it as well, and from a passing standpoint,

2061
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:30,760
Speaker 2: I don't think that he's there at all. When it

2062
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 2: comes to the NBA and n NB. I'm sorry the NFL.

2063
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:35,120
Speaker 1: Do you write your own headlines?

2064
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 2: No, but I know what you're talking about. I can't

2065
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:40,280
Speaker 2: take credit for that.

2066
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:43,320
Speaker 1: Oh well, what do you think I'm talking about?

2067
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 2: Are you talking about the Sidney Coulson headline?

2068
01:36:46,280 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 5: No?

2069
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 2: No, no, no, okay, because that was actually hilarious. By

2070
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:50,560
Speaker 2: the way, for those who might be confused at the

2071
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 2: story just just came out from the Athletic and it

2072
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 2: was about Sidney Colson and her comedy step.

2073
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:57,640
Speaker 1: I've not read that yet, but I'm looking forward to.

2074
01:36:57,720 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just came out, and the headline on it,

2075
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:01,679
Speaker 2: just to kind of feel you in, is Knock Knock,

2076
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 2: Who's there, veteran fever, Citney Cults and the funniest WNBA player.

2077
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:08,799
Speaker 2: I thought that was a fitting headline for a comedy

2078
01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 2: sort of set.

2079
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 1: Okay, So you wrote five Colts related questions for training

2080
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:16,800
Speaker 1: camp and one of the questions that you wrote, which

2081
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 1: again I don't know if you write did you write

2082
01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 1: the questions too.

2083
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 2: Or just yeah, the questions are off our mind?

2084
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 1: Okay. Number three, here will QB Anthony Richardson solidify himself

2085
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:27,679
Speaker 1: as the Colts starter.

2086
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm mean expand explain, do you view him as

2087
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 3: the starting quarterback right now?

2088
01:37:38,120 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 5: No?

2089
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 3: And I explain that in the in the piece a

2090
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 3: little bit further, maybe I should read, Yeah, there's only

2091
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 3: so much you can put in the in the little

2092
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:46,560
Speaker 3: teas of the subhead.

2093
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 1: Subscribe while you're at it to Ke, Yeah, very loyal.

2094
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 2: He's using the VPNs to log it, but no browser.

2095
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 1: Incognito.

2096
01:37:57,320 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2097
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 2: But the reason I phrase it like that is because originally,

2098
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 2: when I was going over the questions with my editor Jimiello,

2099
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 2: who used to cover the Colts for Indie star blegend

2100
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 2: one of the best people in the world. He we

2101
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 2: were talking in the question at first that we came

2102
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 2: up with was well, Anthony richard to start for the Colts.

2103
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:15,800
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, yeah, I think that he would

2104
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:18,800
Speaker 2: start at some point this season. But the bigger question

2105
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:21,560
Speaker 2: is can you be the guy? And I think that

2106
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,080
Speaker 2: is the overarching question that we have for the entire

2107
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 2: season is when twenty twenty five ends, are we saying, Okay,

2108
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, give him an extension, He's the future. Are

2109
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 2: we saying move on, It's over? And that, to me

2110
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 2: is the bigger question. And why I use the word

2111
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 2: solidify because if you can't solidify yourself as like the

2112
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:45,680
Speaker 2: seventeen game starter, as the dude, then we might be

2113
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 2: looking at Okay, well, are the Colts drafting the quarterback

2114
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 2: next year?

2115
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 1: Because he missed seven of the nine spring practices.

2116
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:54,680
Speaker 2: Which when you put like that, man, that's a lot

2117
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 2: of time missed.

2118
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:59,519
Speaker 1: Missed seven of the nine growing over there, I didn't

2119
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 1: realize that many eleven on to eleven practices. He got

2120
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 1: hurt during the second so it's not like even you know,

2121
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:06,920
Speaker 1: had the whole thing right right right. To be even

2122
01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 1: further technical, do you feel like he now has to

2123
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 1: go above and beyond entering training camp? Because I think

2124
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 1: there was this general assumption at the start of the

2125
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: offseason where as long as if him and Daniel Jones

2126
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 1: tied in the competition, the thought was tie would go

2127
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:27,680
Speaker 1: to richards Yeah, I guess Do you still feel that

2128
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:30,719
Speaker 1: way if him and Daniel Jones literally looked the same

2129
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 1: over the next month and a half, do you feel

2130
01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:36,839
Speaker 1: like it would still go to Richardson?

2131
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:39,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they look the same, Yes, But I think that

2132
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 2: if Daniel Jones has a better grasp of the offense,

2133
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 2: is still more efficient when it comes to completing passes,

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Speaker 2: even if it is just training camp, that to me

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Speaker 2: could be a big determining factor. And ultimately, Kevin, I'm

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Speaker 2: very curious to see how these preseason games go, which

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01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 2: normally the preseason games themselves, I mean, they can be

2138
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,759
Speaker 2: kind of hit or missed depending on the practice schedule

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01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 2: joint practices. Will you take snass? But to your point

2140
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 2: from really throughout the entire spring is play both guys

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01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 2: all the preseason games and get all the reps in

2142
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 2: or at least the first couple to figure out.

2143
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Speaker 1: They need to play in every single preseason ayah, what

2144
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 1: they look like? Beat that drum for the next month.

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Speaker 2: But the reason I said perhaps on all of them

2146
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:21,120
Speaker 2: is because if you name a starter, you know by

2147
01:40:21,200 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 2: the third preseason game, do you want them out there?

2148
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:25,880
Speaker 2: Not necessarily to play like a ton of reps. But

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Speaker 2: are you still asking that question? Is my point? Like,

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01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:29,720
Speaker 2: do you want to be able to name a starter

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01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:32,640
Speaker 2: before the final preseason game, And in my opinion, you

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01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 2: probably should because it's that late in the year, But which.

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Speaker 1: I agree with, then play that starter a full half.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just oh yeah, that's what I mean,

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01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 2: Not necessarily, Like, Okay, am I splitting reps? Is what

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01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 2: I'm saying? In Week three or preseason game three? Am

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01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,640
Speaker 2: I still splitting reps? I think at that point you

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01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:51,719
Speaker 2: probably have made a decision sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Days away from the preseason opener Colts at Ravens.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, and to your point, Anthony, if he's even

2161
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 2: from here on out, I think the job will still

2162
01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:03,920
Speaker 2: probably go Daniel Jones. He's gotta be a little bit better.

2163
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:08,760
Speaker 1: In my opinion, if I'm even I'm leaving, you're over

2164
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:10,920
Speaker 1: there wrapping or something. Yeah, I feel like it's that

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01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:12,680
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, a wide out corner thing. If

2166
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 1: we're even, then I'm blowing by you. Or is that

2167
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:16,720
Speaker 1: like what you say to people? Is that what you

2168
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 1: say to JMB when he tries to match you up

2169
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 1: one on one?

2170
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:21,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna try to blow by them. You

2171
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,560
Speaker 2: know anybody that I feel like I'm discriminatory when it

2172
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,639
Speaker 2: comes to age in basketball because anybody who's stereotype Yeah,

2173
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 2: anybody's over the age of forty, I'm like, you're not

2174
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 2: going to stand in front of me, like, come on, man,

2175
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 2: I gotta have some sort of pride as a youthful person.

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01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:37,160
Speaker 3: Do you think even after this week, because this is

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Speaker 3: obviously the most practice heavy that they're going to be,

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01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 3: do you think you guys will be able to draw

2179
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:44,880
Speaker 3: conclusions of who's actually winning the quarterback competition by the

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01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:47,000
Speaker 3: end of this week, just by able to see what

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Speaker 3: eye test.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if it's reps that are very clearly given

2183
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 2: to Daniel Jones and we're talking like, I don't know,

2184
01:41:56,640 --> 01:41:58,920
Speaker 2: seventy thirty when it comes to first team reps something

2185
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 2: like that, then yes, I would say he's in the lead.

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01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:03,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, That's where I would counter with Mark. It's like,

2187
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:05,639
Speaker 1: when you know I said it to you guys earlier

2188
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 1: in the show, when does it become fifty to fifty. Yeah,

2189
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 1: you know, I don't expect to be fifty to fifty

2190
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 1: on Wednesday.

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01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:12,760
Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: If it is, that's great news for Anthony Richardson the

2193
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 1: earlier it is a fifty to fifty split of starting reps,

2194
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:18,840
Speaker 1: the better. But if we get to the end of

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01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:22,600
Speaker 1: the week and it's what eighty twenty, Yeah, just to

2196
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:26,000
Speaker 1: play out a couple numbers, we start to get into

2197
01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 1: much more condensed training camp. After Saturday, really it's like

2198
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:32,960
Speaker 1: two days on, one day off, two day oh, they're

2199
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 1: traveling to Baltimore. That's like two days off. You know,

2200
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 1: it just it gets choppier quicker, which I think makes

2201
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:43,639
Speaker 1: it harder for Anthony Richardson to leave a strong impression.

2202
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 3: And even that, even that preseason opener against the Ravens, like,

2203
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:49,560
Speaker 3: is whoever the starter is for that game? Is that

2204
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 3: QB one or is that just how are they figuring

2205
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:52,439
Speaker 3: that out?

2206
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:54,680
Speaker 1: And you only have two joint practices, which I think

2207
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:56,679
Speaker 1: if you added up the joint practices over the past

2208
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:59,639
Speaker 1: few years, two would be on the smaller end. Last year,

2209
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Speaker 1: I want to say they had four, maybe at least three.

2210
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:06,559
Speaker 1: So that's something that I think it's the worth part

2211
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:08,880
Speaker 1: of that. All right, so let's hit a quick morning

2212
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 1: check now, all right, All Star Weekend, Sabrina and Nescue,

2213
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 1: Natasha Cloud on Friday night, Sabrina shot the cover off

2214
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:24,639
Speaker 1: at eleven in a row from deep outstanding performance from

2215
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 1: her Saturday night, And again this is probably a bigger

2216
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:29,600
Speaker 1: professional sports question. This is not a shot at the

2217
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:31,960
Speaker 1: W but the All Star Game was terrible in terms

2218
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:35,440
Speaker 1: of a competitive atmosphere, and actually the W has provided

2219
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 1: more competitive All Star games. So that's why I do

2220
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:39,599
Speaker 1: sit there and thought to myself, you know what, am

2221
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:42,560
Speaker 1: I gonna watch something a little bit more back and forth? No,

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01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 1: it was not that at all. James Boyd. Anything to

2223
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 1: add from your All Star Weekend.

2224
01:43:46,840 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 2: The Skills Challenge, you should have to complete each skill

2225
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:52,160
Speaker 2: to win the challenge. Natasha Cloud being able to win

2226
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:55,320
Speaker 2: the Skills Challenge over Erica Wheeler without making a corner

2227
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 2: three point shot or making any of the jump shots

2228
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:00,479
Speaker 2: was ridiculous to me at that point. Just a time challenge.

2229
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 1: Preach, preach, preach, preach. The Milaukee Brewers are really good

2230
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:07,320
Speaker 1: at baseball. Ten in a row they sweep the Dodgers.

2231
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:10,719
Speaker 1: Scottie Scheffler is also really good at golf, and Podo

2232
01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:14,360
Speaker 1: Award can drive a race car. Anything you guys would

2233
01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:15,439
Speaker 1: like to add on any of those three.

2234
01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 2: Potto, is that back to back?

2235
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:21,839
Speaker 1: Technically not back to back weekends? They had a Sunday

2236
01:44:21,880 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 1: doubleheader last week last weekend, but yes, two straight weekends.

2237
01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 1: He's been in victory Lane. Alex Palow twelfth. No Penske

2238
01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:31,360
Speaker 1: in the top ten were used to the ladder. We're

2239
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:31,880
Speaker 1: not used to that.

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Speaker 2: From Alex below, Alex below. The fall off has started already.

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Speaker 1: This season Laguna Seka coming up for Indy car this weekend.

2242
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 1: TBT tonight to Butler. They're all good dogs alumni team.

2243
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,679
Speaker 1: They advanced out of round one the Indiana Hoosiers bout

2244
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:50,960
Speaker 1: out a poor second half from them, so Assembly Ball

2245
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 1: lost there. So Hinkle tonight for semi finals of that regional.

2246
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 1: Butler plays at eight and tomorrow night would be the

2247
01:44:58,160 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 1: regional championship up there at at Historic field House.

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01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:04,800
Speaker 3: My only other question for you is British Open wise.

2249
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:07,919
Speaker 3: Did you have any nice wins yourself? Is the pocketbook

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01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 3: a little heavier today? Yeah?

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01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:11,840
Speaker 1: I think I told you I hedged with the big guns,

2252
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:13,720
Speaker 1: so Scotty would be in that group, so I was

2253
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 1: able to hedge there. But yes, I made a nice

2254
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 1: chunk of change. Thank you to Matthew Fitzpatrick and the

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01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 1: old top It was actually top five, bet I thought

2256
01:45:21,280 --> 01:45:23,760
Speaker 1: was top ten. He birdied sixteen and seventeen yesterday. I

2257
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 1: was like, oh this is great, and I'm like, oh wait,

2258
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 1: I really needed that. So yes, I was very happy

2259
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:29,680
Speaker 1: about mister Fitzpatrick.

2260
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:33,640
Speaker 2: You hear that Colts beat writers lunch on Kevin Bowen Westfield.

2261
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:36,680
Speaker 2: What a nice gesture. That is so fine of you

2262
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:38,600
Speaker 2: you know, hit Jeff up. Make sure you get some

2263
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 2: sliders and just bring them all over.

2264
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:42,479
Speaker 1: Well, Mark, I think you might get a little Cluster

2265
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:44,920
Speaker 1: truck action in studios, so it might benefit you tomorrow.

2266
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:47,439
Speaker 1: So you just close your mouth over there except that,

2267
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,120
Speaker 1: and James and I'll have to fend for ourselves up

2268
01:45:50,160 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 1: there and pose.

2269
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:52,560
Speaker 2: My mouth around all that Korean beef that's going to

2270
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 2: get delivered.

2271
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:56,599
Speaker 1: And thank you to Cluster for that. CT fan your

2272
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:58,640
Speaker 1: promo code see the letter scene, be sure you can

2273
01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:02,840
Speaker 1: have you deliver it today. Promo code for you there,

2274
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,400
Speaker 1: all right. Ben Pickman covers the WNBA for the athletic

2275
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 1: A lot to get to. We'll chat with him coming

2276
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:10,519
Speaker 1: up now, Mark, my kids know this song from Shrek.

2277
01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 3: My kids as well, I said, I know this from

2278
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 3: Mystery Men, the often forgotten Ben Stiller and Pee Wee

2279
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 3: Herman movie from my early two thousands.

2280
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:21,439
Speaker 1: And here Max Bow and Yell and Shrek right now

2281
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 1: as soon as this well was played, of course All

2282
01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:27,719
Speaker 1: Star Weekend, Mark Dyton's thought process behind that, and James

2283
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:30,479
Speaker 1: Boyd a man that was very busy for All Star

2284
01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:33,439
Speaker 1: Weekend and does a great job cover women's basketball in

2285
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 1: general for the Athletic. That's our payless lookers right now, right,

2286
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:37,080
Speaker 1: Ben Pickman?

2287
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 2: Ben Pickman, Yes, And so for those who are looking

2288
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:42,280
Speaker 2: in the YouTube chat and for those listening who can't

2289
01:46:42,280 --> 01:46:44,679
Speaker 2: see my face, if there are bags under my eyes,

2290
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 2: it is because Ben Pickman was my chaperone over the weekend,

2291
01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:49,920
Speaker 2: and I don't think either of us went to bed

2292
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:51,800
Speaker 2: when we're probably supposed to. But it was a fun

2293
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:54,200
Speaker 2: weekend nonetheless, and Ben, I believe, is now back in

2294
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 2: New York. So Ben, thanks joining so my man.

2295
01:46:57,320 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks for having me, James, that is definitely correct.

2296
01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:02,600
Speaker 5: But we're happing to show you're a good time in

2297
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 5: your city as well.

2298
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's always good to have a friend

2299
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 2: that can get you into some some cool places. I

2300
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 2: was telling them earlier.

2301
01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 4: Ben.

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01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 2: They were asking, Hey, who are some of the celebrities

2303
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:12,600
Speaker 2: you saw out and I was like, yeah, we were

2304
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:14,600
Speaker 2: in a party and Lisa Leslie walked by and that

2305
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 2: was pretty incredible stuff. So I can't take you enough

2306
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:20,519
Speaker 2: for that experience. And my mom was pretty she thought

2307
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 2: I was that was cool, you know, been because of that.

2308
01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:25,080
Speaker 2: So I'll take that as a w but I will

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01:47:25,120 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 2: I do want to pivot. I guess some more serious matters.

2310
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:30,800
Speaker 2: Let's start with you know, I guess not too serious.

2311
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:33,320
Speaker 2: We'll get into the CBA stuff here shortly. But for

2312
01:47:33,400 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 2: the All Star weekend itself, how do you think Indy

2313
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 2: was as a host of this event, as someone who

2314
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 2: attends these things, you know, every year.

2315
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thind Eddie did a really great job. I

2316
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:46,559
Speaker 5: think All Start weekend generally across the WNBA has really

2317
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:51,280
Speaker 5: grown in terms of events, brand activations, partnerships, just feeling

2318
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:53,640
Speaker 5: like a really important weekend over the last four or

2319
01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 5: five years. I remember when just a couple of years back,

2320
01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:59,720
Speaker 5: WNBA Live had like eight to ten brands in it

2321
01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 5: a single street in Chicago, and now the Convention Center

2322
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:05,640
Speaker 5: was stilled and fans were there, you know, it was

2323
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:07,879
Speaker 5: taxed in the affrigade. It was like a women's basketball

2324
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 5: amusement park of just things that you could do. And

2325
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 5: then you look at the basketball itself, and like, I

2326
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:16,519
Speaker 5: was a little nervous heading into the weekend with Caitlin

2327
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 5: Park not participating, Like was the weekend go have a

2328
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:23,120
Speaker 5: little less juice because of it? But I would say

2329
01:48:23,160 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 5: the answer to that is, you know, like Kelsey Mitchell

2330
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:27,760
Speaker 5: and the lea of Austin in front of assume the

2331
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,120
Speaker 5: role of the factor host. There were tons of signage,

2332
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 5: there were tons of energy around the city. It really

2333
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:35,600
Speaker 5: did feel like the center women's basketball. I thought they

2334
01:48:35,680 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 5: need did a really, really great job and set high

2335
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,240
Speaker 5: standard Ford whoever hosted next summer.

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01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:43,720
Speaker 1: So boys have been Pickman again covers the wh and

2337
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:46,040
Speaker 1: really women's ass on general for the athletic He's with

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01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 1: us here on the paylist stickers hotline, Ben, thank you

2339
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 1: for the time. Let's move over to where we're at

2340
01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 1: from a league negotiation standpoint. We obviously saw the demonstration

2341
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 1: from a shirt standpoint from players prior to the game

2342
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:02,800
Speaker 1: on Saturday night. What would be your biggest question when

2343
01:49:02,840 --> 01:49:05,560
Speaker 1: it comes to the bargaining either side here as this

2344
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:08,920
Speaker 1: plays out with October thirty, first deadline on a new

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Speaker 1: collective bargaining agreement.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess my question is I'm just wondering how

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01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:19,519
Speaker 5: much progress can really get made when games resumed, right,

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01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 5: because we saw that this was so significant about last

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01:49:23,000 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 5: Thursday's meeting between the players and the league. It was

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01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:30,960
Speaker 5: their first in person meeting that involves players since September. Right,

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01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:33,800
Speaker 5: the league took for the players around five months to

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01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:36,439
Speaker 5: respond to a proposal and got back to them kind

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01:49:36,479 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 5: of in late June and early July. A lot of

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01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 5: progress was made over that time, and so that is

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01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:44,800
Speaker 5: what made last Thirsty meeting is so significant. More than

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01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 5: forty players attended. Now the teams are resuming, like all

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01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 5: talks resuming. You know, both sides have said that there

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01:49:51,960 --> 01:49:54,280
Speaker 5: is ating other meeting scheduled. It's unclear that is a

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01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:57,439
Speaker 5: virtual meeting or an in person meeting. But there is

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01:49:57,479 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 5: still a long way to go on this negotiations. Now

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01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:03,000
Speaker 5: we are a long way await from potentially missing games

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01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:05,960
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty six. But you know, I don't know

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01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:08,120
Speaker 5: if that much progress as the players certainly wanted to

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01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:10,640
Speaker 5: meet on this weekend with actually meeting happy angle with

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01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:13,519
Speaker 5: the commisser said they were constructive talks for whatever that

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01:50:13,680 --> 01:50:16,080
Speaker 5: is worked and she said started a question. I asked,

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01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 5: since she's so confident we can get a deal done

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01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 5: by the deadline, But I think the deals are quickly

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01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 5: taking off the calendar and we'll see how much progress

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01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:25,599
Speaker 5: actually gets me rem.

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01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:29,640
Speaker 2: One more on that ben When it comes to what

2372
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:32,360
Speaker 2: the players are fighting for, and they have the shirts

2373
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:34,280
Speaker 2: that said, you know, pay us what you owe us

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01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:38,120
Speaker 2: is that in reference to the revenue split. I know

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01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 2: people are all up in arms about you know, is

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01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:43,559
Speaker 2: a WNBA profitable and you know, how much money should

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01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:46,000
Speaker 2: they really be making? But I think, at least in

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01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:49,639
Speaker 2: my opinion from reading you're working others, the biggest, one

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01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 2: of the biggest factors in these negotiations is that, hey,

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01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 2: we're only getting I believe it's around nine or ten

2381
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 2: percent of the revenue, whereas on the men's side, for

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01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:00,320
Speaker 2: the NBA, they're getting that fifty fifty split.

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01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, revenue sharing and salary structure and max salaries are

2384
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:07,600
Speaker 5: really kind of the two or three financial components and

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01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 5: they're all, you know, interwoven together at sway here it

2386
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:13,519
Speaker 5: seems like max salar's are going to increase. We'll see

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01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:17,080
Speaker 5: eventually by how much in terms of revenue sharing. You

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01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:19,280
Speaker 5: got to think about a big picture that the WNBA

2389
01:51:19,439 --> 01:51:22,320
Speaker 5: is in this explosive period of growth, right, Look at merchandise,

2390
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:24,800
Speaker 5: look at attendance, look at TV ratings. Look at these

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01:51:24,840 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 5: Stanson fees. Right, two hundred and fifty million dollars for

2392
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 5: these three new teams, up from fifty just a few

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01:51:30,040 --> 01:51:32,880
Speaker 5: years ago. So business is booming and the players are

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01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 5: sayings that they want to grow with the business. And

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01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:37,920
Speaker 5: so in the league's counter proposal that they sent back

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01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 5: just a couple of weeks ago, and this is for

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01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:42,559
Speaker 5: players voicing it, they said, that's the league just sent back.

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01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 5: It's kind of fixed and small percentage of revenue sharing

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01:51:46,479 --> 01:51:48,280
Speaker 5: over the next couple of years. And more players were

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01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:50,439
Speaker 5: then saying that doesn't mean that means we're then not

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01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 5: growing with the business. Is it's six percentage, right? And

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01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 5: think about a big picture too. The WNBA, unlike the NBA,

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01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:00,559
Speaker 5: not only does it not have a fifty to fifty

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01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:03,600
Speaker 5: revenue sharing foot right now, but the ownership structure of

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01:52:03,680 --> 01:52:06,680
Speaker 5: the leagues are totally different. Right, forty two percent of

2406
01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:11,240
Speaker 5: the WNBA is owned by the NBA, then another forty

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01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 5: two percent is owned by WNBA owners. Now there is

2408
01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 5: some double dippy in that group, and that remaining sixteen

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01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:22,759
Speaker 5: percent is owned by people who invested in a capital

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01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 5: raise just a few years ago, and some of those

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01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:28,439
Speaker 5: people are also part of either NBA or WNBA ownership.

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01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 5: So there is a lot of kind of splipping that

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01:52:30,479 --> 01:52:33,920
Speaker 5: already have to happen before money on kind of triples

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01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 5: down to the players. So to speak. So that is

2415
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:39,080
Speaker 5: part of why this is such a complicated puzzle. And

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01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:41,840
Speaker 5: you know financial situation that's out is because there are

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01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,719
Speaker 5: a lot of staples, there's a lot of players service speak.

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01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:48,240
Speaker 5: I guess entities I should say, who want a profit

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01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:49,599
Speaker 5: off the WNBA business.

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01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 1: It's been pickman from the Athletic covers the WNBA ben

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01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 1: The Fever right now return tomorrow night at the New

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01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:58,960
Speaker 1: York Liberty. Caitlin Clark not expected to play with that

2423
01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:01,519
Speaker 1: right growing injury. What are the standings right now? The

2424
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:04,280
Speaker 1: Fever are in sixth again, we know the top eight

2425
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:06,960
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, but they're only one and a half

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01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:10,600
Speaker 1: out from being out of the playoff picture. So I

2427
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 1: guess I asked that in this way. We got about

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01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 1: two months left for the regular season. How long do

2429
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:18,920
Speaker 1: you think they could handle a Caitlin Clark absence before

2430
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:21,840
Speaker 1: things start getting a little dicey in terms of them

2431
01:53:22,000 --> 01:53:24,200
Speaker 1: securing one of those playoff spots.

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01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:28,120
Speaker 5: I mean, I think they can certainly sustain even if

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01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 5: she does have to mix extended period tiving. Right we

2434
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:32,800
Speaker 5: don't know the severity of for injury, but I do

2435
01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 5: still think the general feeling of this team is much

2436
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:39,320
Speaker 5: lower than what people thought handing into the season, right,

2437
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:41,920
Speaker 5: I mean, even if she were to come back to me,

2438
01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:45,160
Speaker 5: continuity is so important in recent memory of these teams

2439
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:48,120
Speaker 5: that have won the championships and gone he runs showing

2440
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:50,800
Speaker 5: just that and that is true, you know, WNBA is true,

2441
01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:52,720
Speaker 5: and a lot of other sports flinkly right, and the

2442
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:55,439
Speaker 5: in the n fever this year for all the highs

2443
01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:57,400
Speaker 5: and the high points, right, think about the commissioner sub

2444
01:53:57,439 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 5: victory over Minnesota. They've a struggle to consistent a team

2445
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:03,120
Speaker 5: that part down the injury. Part of that is the

2446
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:06,760
Speaker 5: you're around lineups for that is there's just so nice.

2447
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:09,439
Speaker 5: They bring more energy from nevative fires, deefite white. It's

2448
01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 5: in than others. To me, they're currently what fixture and

2449
01:54:13,240 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 5: standard because as we were doing playing in the second half,

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01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:17,519
Speaker 5: if you told me that at the start of the

2451
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:20,120
Speaker 5: playoffs they were still fixed, like I wouldn't be shocked.

2452
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:22,439
Speaker 5: To me, that feels, you know, not knowing all of

2453
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:24,360
Speaker 5: their games in the total off with up their schedules.

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01:54:24,560 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 5: That seems through pretty real letic. Whether Clark returns and

2455
01:54:27,560 --> 01:54:28,960
Speaker 5: breaks most of the second half or all of the

2456
01:54:29,040 --> 01:54:31,320
Speaker 5: second half, or weather champions in the sixtended periods time.

2457
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:34,600
Speaker 5: It still is a talented roster and things are pretty bunched.

2458
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:38,240
Speaker 5: But again and Taylor Park's a pre season that you know,

2459
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:42,800
Speaker 5: championship expectations on this team. I think Indiana that's proven

2460
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 5: a very long way a ways from the upper exuper

2461
01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 5: excellent of the league as.

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01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:50,600
Speaker 2: So last one from me, Ben, and we'll get you

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01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:52,480
Speaker 2: out of here. And it's a very hard hitting question.

2464
01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 2: You know you are in New York. You cover the

2465
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:56,960
Speaker 2: liberty I think probably a little bit closer than the

2466
01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 2: other w NBA teams has given the proximity. And we

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01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 2: saw a toss cloud, you know, win the money from

2468
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:04,840
Speaker 2: the Skills Challenge until you know is he Harrison? Hey babe,

2469
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:07,560
Speaker 2: you know we're gonna go by that house. But you

2470
01:55:07,640 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 2: should have to do the skill to get the Skills

2471
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:13,440
Speaker 2: Challenge titles. So what rule changes do we need in this?

2472
01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 2: I am sick of this on the men's side and

2473
01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:15,840
Speaker 2: the women's side.

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01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:17,080
Speaker 1: What can we do?

2475
01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:19,240
Speaker 2: What should it be the penalty if you are unable

2476
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:22,200
Speaker 2: to make us shots or makeup pass yet you still

2477
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:25,480
Speaker 2: complete the skills quote unquote faster than the other person.

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01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:28,640
Speaker 5: I mean hard. Are you a fan of Shining penalty

2479
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:32,120
Speaker 5: in games that like, instead of just you know, having

2480
01:55:32,160 --> 01:55:34,880
Speaker 5: a be thirty second, thirty seconds, forty seconds complete it

2481
01:55:34,920 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 5: that you know, you get a two or second penalty

2482
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:40,840
Speaker 5: or three second penalty or whatever that numbery is if

2483
01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 5: you are unable to complete an obstacle or if you

2484
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 5: miss a shot or throwing aerton passers. That's kind of

2485
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 5: your suggestion because I feel like that is the the

2486
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:50,160
Speaker 5: logical move potentially there.

2487
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:53,160
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at because I'm thinking, hey, we're supposed

2488
01:55:53,160 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 2: to promote you as the most skilled players in the world,

2489
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:58,200
Speaker 2: and if you can't make a jump shot on three

2490
01:55:58,280 --> 01:56:00,920
Speaker 2: or four tries, then you know, it happens, but you

2491
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:04,720
Speaker 2: should not be able to win by not making a shot.

2492
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:07,000
Speaker 2: That that I mean Erica Wheeler. When I saw her

2493
01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:11,160
Speaker 2: response to you know some of the loss and Rob

2494
01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 2: respected it, I was I agreed on that in my head.

2495
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:16,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is a good point for me, honestly. And

2496
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 5: you can, you know, continue to push for skills challenge changes.

2497
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 5: I want to see the return from a higher shooting

2498
01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:26,240
Speaker 5: Stars challenge. Anyone was an NBA All Star fan kind

2499
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 5: of in the mid two thousands, you know, throwing two

2500
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:29,880
Speaker 5: thousand and five through I want to say ten or

2501
01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:33,480
Speaker 5: fifteen or whatever it was, this like three legged shooting

2502
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:36,560
Speaker 5: challenge between an NBA player, an NBA legend, and a

2503
01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:38,760
Speaker 5: WNBA player. I would love to see that rotch to

2504
01:56:38,920 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 5: WNBA All Star Weekend when you have the WNB player

2505
01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:45,080
Speaker 5: in WNB legend and an NBA player compete again. I

2506
01:56:45,160 --> 01:56:47,200
Speaker 5: think that would be a great event and a great

2507
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:50,960
Speaker 5: at throw back into WNBA All Star Friday night. This

2508
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:53,520
Speaker 5: time was always my favorite of when I watched it then,

2509
01:56:53,560 --> 01:56:55,320
Speaker 5: and I think, you know, it would be great now.

2510
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:57,960
Speaker 5: Who wouldn't have wanted to see in the NFP first player,

2511
01:56:58,320 --> 01:57:01,680
Speaker 5: you know, shoot alongside Telsea and Mitch and like that

2512
01:57:01,760 --> 01:57:03,680
Speaker 5: would have been a beam owing for the weekend.

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01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 1: Just a couple of little did he know he was

2514
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 1: on babysitting duty for James Boyd this weekend. That's what

2515
01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 1: Ben Pickman had to do at night there. I can't

2516
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 1: imagine having to babysit James Boyd there certainly deserves a

2517
01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:21,880
Speaker 1: lot there. I will venmo you off air, Ben, thank

2518
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:22,240
Speaker 1: you for that.

2519
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:26,840
Speaker 5: Happy to do it anytime next Tummer. Hopefully we'll can

2520
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 5: do it against it.

2521
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:30,280
Speaker 1: Ben Pickman right there from the Athletic thank you Ben

2522
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:33,640
Speaker 1: on the Payless Liquors hot line. All right, we will

2523
01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 1: do it one final time here Mark Dyke, and I

2524
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 1: think I like your tweet that you just shared with me.

2525
01:57:37,960 --> 01:57:40,000
Speaker 1: Are those are good looking? We'll chat about that here.

2526
01:57:40,080 --> 01:57:41,880
Speaker 1: Up coming next it is the Fan Morning Show. One

2527
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:46,600
Speaker 1: final Tomorrow will be in Westfield. That would be report

2528
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:48,960
Speaker 1: day for Colts training Camp Grand Park. I want to

2529
01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:52,160
Speaker 1: say the seventh time they've been up at Grand Park.

2530
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:54,360
Speaker 1: I think that original contract was a ten year deal.

2531
01:57:54,600 --> 01:57:59,600
Speaker 1: So up there at a beautiful facility, and Kennymore going

2532
01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 1: to join us, and I hope another Colts player, but

2533
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:04,960
Speaker 1: we know for sure Kenny Moore the second will join

2534
01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:08,680
Speaker 1: us live there up in Westfield. Again. The Cults are

2535
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:13,160
Speaker 1: just one of six teams that go off site. Can

2536
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:15,760
Speaker 1: you guys name any other of the six teams that

2537
01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:18,360
Speaker 1: go off site for training camp? Some of them a

2538
01:58:18,440 --> 01:58:19,640
Speaker 1: little bit more popular than others.

2539
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:21,960
Speaker 2: Want to say Cowboys City, the Cowboys too.

2540
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 1: Dallas was one the one that I thought as the

2541
01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 1: most popular Ox State California. James Boyd, you are indeed correct.

2542
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:32,600
Speaker 1: Kansas City goes to Missouri, western state, so they go

2543
01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:36,080
Speaker 1: across the border. Well, you guys are hot do you

2544
01:58:36,120 --> 01:58:36,720
Speaker 1: want to keep going?

2545
01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:37,520
Speaker 2: How many did you say?

2546
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:40,120
Speaker 3: There were six total? So we know those two and

2547
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:43,240
Speaker 3: obviously the Colts forty nine ers got three.

2548
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:43,960
Speaker 5: No.

2549
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:48,480
Speaker 1: On the forty nine ers, I'm gonna say Wright State though, Mark.

2550
01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:50,280
Speaker 2: Rams.

2551
01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:54,240
Speaker 1: The Rams go to Loyala Marra Mounts. Didn't they go

2552
01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:55,480
Speaker 1: to Maui for their mini camp?

2553
01:58:55,960 --> 01:58:56,680
Speaker 2: Are the Raiders?

2554
01:58:57,680 --> 01:58:59,520
Speaker 1: No? I would think of I think of some blue

2555
01:58:59,560 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 1: collar fan bases here to round it out, blue collar

2556
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:07,760
Speaker 1: fan bases, fan bases that infiltrated Lucasoa Stadium, quite impressive.

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Speaker 1: Steelers yere. The Steelers go to La Trobe. That would

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01:59:11,440 --> 01:59:14,839
Speaker 1: be Saint Vincent College, the home of Arnold Palmer.

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01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:18,200
Speaker 2: And oh, I know one of them and our final

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01:59:18,280 --> 01:59:24,320
Speaker 2: one is it? I know the Ravens have like a well,

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01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:26,720
Speaker 2: that's their practice facility which is right next to there.

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01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:29,960
Speaker 1: Not the Ravens, I would say, is blue collars that

2563
01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:31,800
Speaker 1: come the fan base that I would love to see

2564
01:59:31,880 --> 01:59:33,960
Speaker 1: basket in a Super Bowl at some point. The Lions

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01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:39,000
Speaker 1: they'd be second on that list. Bills, the Buffalo Bills.

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01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:42,440
Speaker 2: They are hard knocks team this year too, are they really?

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01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:42,840
Speaker 4: Uh huh?

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01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 2: That would be an interesting way.

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01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:44,280
Speaker 5: St.

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01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:46,120
Speaker 1: John Fisher College a little bit of a drive over

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01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:47,560
Speaker 1: to Rochet. I think that's kind of like a little

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01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 1: bit of the Anderson or Rose home and feel. So

2573
01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 1: the Colts used to of course go to those sites.

2574
01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:56,760
Speaker 1: So again we'll be out there all week long, coming

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01:59:56,840 --> 02:00:01,280
Speaker 1: up Report Day and then morning practices, Win Day through Friday.

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Speaker 1: Mark d Acton, I love these Reds unis that you

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02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:06,360
Speaker 1: just sence, go ahead and fill our audience in.

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02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:11,280
Speaker 3: So apparently the Braves, the Atlanta Braves and the Cincinnati

2579
02:00:11,320 --> 02:00:15,240
Speaker 3: Reds are going to have a series first weekend in

2580
02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:19,280
Speaker 3: August at the Bristol Motor Speedway. So it seems like

2581
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:23,080
Speaker 3: they're gonna to play one game. It's called the Speedway Classic.

2582
02:00:23,240 --> 02:00:27,800
Speaker 3: So they unveiled specific exclusive uniforms and hats. They look

2583
02:00:27,840 --> 02:00:30,640
Speaker 3: pretty nice. The Braves have a hat that features flames

2584
02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:32,360
Speaker 3: on it on the top of the visor. The Reds

2585
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:36,720
Speaker 3: have checkered flags across the visor. I'd say, mister Reds

2586
02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:40,520
Speaker 3: fan Kevin and an advocate for the Indy five hundred,

2587
02:00:40,640 --> 02:00:42,320
Speaker 3: that's a hat you probably need to purchase because that

2588
02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:42,960
Speaker 3: is pretty sweet.

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02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:45,920
Speaker 1: That's a good looking hat. That is great. Little checkered

2590
02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:48,200
Speaker 1: on the bill. Is that a flame on the Brave's

2591
02:00:48,240 --> 02:00:50,360
Speaker 1: hat might seeing that correct? And I love how the

2592
02:00:50,480 --> 02:00:53,080
Speaker 1: numbers are very Nascar E numbers. Yeah, I don't know

2593
02:00:53,120 --> 02:00:54,720
Speaker 1: how to describe it other than that, like when you

2594
02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:56,800
Speaker 1: look at the numbers in the uniforms, you're going to

2595
02:00:56,840 --> 02:00:58,480
Speaker 1: be like, wow, that looks like a NASCAR.

2596
02:00:58,280 --> 02:01:00,960
Speaker 2: Car Natory Legano? Is that Elie Dela Cruz?

2597
02:01:01,120 --> 02:01:03,080
Speaker 1: I can't tell. Yeah, Denny Hamlin steiling?

2598
02:01:03,160 --> 02:01:06,400
Speaker 2: Second, where do you pull these hats? Kevin? Do you

2599
02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:07,200
Speaker 2: have like a hat?

2600
02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:09,720
Speaker 1: Maddie did buy me one of those hat?

2601
02:01:09,880 --> 02:01:10,440
Speaker 5: Like con?

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02:01:10,840 --> 02:01:12,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what you call it. Container?

2603
02:01:12,760 --> 02:01:14,040
Speaker 2: Do you have a container of hats?

2604
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:15,840
Speaker 1: It's like what do you call it?

2605
02:01:15,960 --> 02:01:16,000
Speaker 5: Like?

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02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:17,360
Speaker 2: Where do you put hats when you have a lot

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02:01:17,400 --> 02:01:17,680
Speaker 2: of them?

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02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a plastic hanging rack. And I see

2609
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:23,760
Speaker 1: doesn't sound any better. And I can't really make it work.

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02:01:23,920 --> 02:01:26,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, it doesn't. So I have a desk

2611
02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:29,080
Speaker 1: at home. Actually my dad, my dad's super handy made

2612
02:01:29,120 --> 02:01:31,040
Speaker 1: it for me back when I went to college. Uh

2613
02:01:31,280 --> 02:01:33,560
Speaker 1: still worked great, and so during COVID, of course I

2614
02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:34,800
Speaker 1: used it a whole lot. And you know, you and

2615
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:37,360
Speaker 1: I both you know, work from home, especially when we

2616
02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:40,480
Speaker 1: have some stuff late afternoon early evening. So yeah, they're

2617
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:42,800
Speaker 1: all just on top of the desk up there. I mean,

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02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:48,040
Speaker 1: it's horribly placed, any sort of you know, hey, let's

2619
02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:51,160
Speaker 1: keep things tidy. Person. We just hate to look at

2620
02:01:51,200 --> 02:01:54,760
Speaker 1: the top of my desk. Now, Mark, this is at Bristol, Yes, Now,

2621
02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:58,160
Speaker 1: Bristol hosted that Virginia Tech Tennessee football game. I remember

2622
02:01:58,160 --> 02:02:00,200
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. I've always thought this about

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02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:02,240
Speaker 1: the Motor Speedway, and I don't know, maybe we would

2624
02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:04,240
Speaker 1: have to eliminate the four golf holes in there to

2625
02:02:04,320 --> 02:02:07,400
Speaker 1: do it, But we need a college football game at IMS.

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02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:08,040
Speaker 1: I'd like to.

2627
02:02:09,800 --> 02:02:10,360
Speaker 2: Something like that.

2628
02:02:10,480 --> 02:02:12,080
Speaker 1: We got to take those four golf holes, which I

2629
02:02:12,200 --> 02:02:14,160
Speaker 1: know seven and eight in particular a very good golf holes.

2630
02:02:14,240 --> 02:02:15,560
Speaker 1: Nine's got a million bunkers on them.

2631
02:02:16,360 --> 02:02:16,520
Speaker 5: You know.

2632
02:02:16,600 --> 02:02:18,360
Speaker 1: Somehow I feel like there's other land, you know, on

2633
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:20,680
Speaker 1: the other side of like fifteen and sixteen, a brickyard

2634
02:02:20,760 --> 02:02:23,320
Speaker 1: or even seventeen or eighteen. Go put those four holes

2635
02:02:23,320 --> 02:02:23,680
Speaker 1: over there.

2636
02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:26,200
Speaker 2: You can make it work.

2637
02:02:26,240 --> 02:02:30,040
Speaker 1: We can have it. You do annually noon kickoff? You

2638
02:02:30,160 --> 02:02:32,760
Speaker 1: good for that? Hell yeah, just West Loafield and blow

2639
02:02:32,760 --> 02:02:34,280
Speaker 1: me to need those games more.

2640
02:02:34,360 --> 02:02:36,560
Speaker 2: I can hear their fan bases saying hold on, he's

2641
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:37,720
Speaker 2: on a foot lights.

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02:02:37,960 --> 02:02:39,640
Speaker 1: I get the no lights. We're gonna have to have

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02:02:39,720 --> 02:02:40,360
Speaker 1: a day game, so.

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02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:43,480
Speaker 2: Football games, soccer game, wrestling event that I'll be cool

2645
02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:43,880
Speaker 2: off there.

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02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:46,600
Speaker 1: Thank you to Joel Rickson, think you have been picked men.

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02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:49,240
Speaker 1: Those will both be up on the podcast again. We'll

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02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:52,160
Speaker 1: be live in Westfield each of the next six mornings

2649
02:02:52,240 --> 02:02:55,400
Speaker 1: into next week as well. Kenny Moore joins us tomorrow. Everybody,

2650
02:02:55,520 --> 02:02:57,800
Speaker 1: have a great, great Monday. We'll chat with you from

2651
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Speaker 1: Hamilton County tomorrow morning.