1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Bill Hemmer was in Gaza. Bill Hemmer Fox News, and 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: his reporting out of Gaza would lead one to believe 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: that maybe what we hear is not factual. 4 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 2: Great question. I'm not a doctor, but what I saw 5 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: today were a lot of healthy people who are very energetic. 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: Many of them are young age twelve, fourteen, sixteen, adults 7 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: in their fifties and forties with five six seven children. 8 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: They were healthy based on the way I viewed it today, 9 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 2: doesn't mean what's going on on the other side of 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: that area is not the case. But that was my 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: observation so far today. It's only one snapshot of what 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: we saw within several hours inside of Gaza. 13 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: What I take from that from Bill Hemmer is that listen, 14 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to cover myself here, but this idea that 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: everybody's starving just isn't the case. Tony Katz Tony Kats Today, 16 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: good to be with you find everything over at Tony 17 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: kats dot com. 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You 27 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: want to join us. It's gonna be a fantastic night. 28 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: Tickets dot Tony Kats dot com. Tickets dot Tony Katz 29 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: dot com. This starving conversation is not actually reality. Now, 30 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: I think it would be full party to make the 31 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: assumption that there aren't people going hungry in Gaza. 32 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: You have hamas keeping the food from people. 33 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: We've been discussing this, so it seems quite obvious that 34 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: there is the possibility of people going hungry. That said, 35 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: the idea of outright and mass starvation is was, and 36 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: continues to be a farce in every single way. 37 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: We know this. We're aware of this. 38 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: We are also aware that the people who've been trying 39 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: to make the argument of well, we just want a 40 00:02:53,960 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: Palestinian homeland. That's that that's not the case either, not 41 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: by any stretch of the imagination. I'll share with you 42 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: some audio I have out of Australia, but this is 43 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: audio from Mahmud Khalil. 44 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 3: You're like, wait a second, I know that name. This 45 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 3: was the agitator. 46 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: At Columbia University advocating for Hamas, supporting Hamas, attacking Jewish students, 47 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: which we already know is just a precursor to going 48 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: after all Americans are Christians. It's about the structured Western civilization. 49 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: Israel's just step one. That's all. That's all it is. 50 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: And we know that. Well, he's doing this interview with 51 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: Ezra Klein. I'm going to share some of this with 52 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: you right now. Maybe you won't catch it at first, 53 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: but when you do, when you do. 54 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: Listen to me. 55 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 4: So try think that we had to reach this moment 56 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 4: and and and and in the Palestinian struggle. And I 57 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 4: remember I didn't sleep for a number of days and 58 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: was very worried about about like just my health and 59 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 4: it was heavy, like I I still remembered, like I 60 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 4: was like this, this couldn't happen. And what do you 61 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 4: mean we had to reach this moment? What? What? What 62 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: moment is this I wasn't turning at that point at 63 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 4: the United Nations United Nations Relief and Works Agency at 64 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: the UN at the New York Office, and as part 65 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 4: of my internship, my research and work was focused on 66 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 4: you know, Palestine, on the situation in the West Bank, 67 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 4: and and and you can't see that the situation is 68 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 4: not sustainable. You of an Israeli government that's absolutely ignoring Palestinians. 69 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 4: They are trying to make that deal with Saudi and 70 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: just happy about their Abrahama court without you know, looking 71 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 4: at Palestinians as if Palestinians are not part of the equation. 72 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: Let's stop for a moment first, so much focus on 73 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: the Palestinians that Israelis pulled Israelis out of Gaza who 74 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: were living in Gaza in two thousand and five and 75 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: said here you go and gave up the Gaza strip. 76 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: So let's not think that Mark M. Khalil is an 77 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: honest broker here. But go back to what he said 78 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: in the beginning. 79 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: To me, it felt frightening that we had to reach 80 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 4: this moment and in the Palestinian struggle. 81 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: What moment is he talking about? It's frightening. We had 82 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,679 Speaker 1: to reach this moment in the Palestinian struggle. He's talking 83 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: about October seventh, he's talking about the murder of twelve 84 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: hundred Israelis. 85 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 3: And he referred to it as we, not jumas. 86 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 4: We. 87 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: If you want to know what this guy is, if 88 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: you want to know what these Hamas supporters are on 89 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: college campuses and other places, they are in this together. 90 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: This isn't about the Palestinians. This is about destruction. 91 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 3: How many more ways. 92 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: Must you see it? Must you hear it before you're like, oh, yeah, 93 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: this is who they are and this is what they mean. 94 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 1: Because this is who they are, and this is what 95 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: they mean. It's in his own words. And for the record, 96 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: I don't know how this guy is still in an America. 97 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: He's not an American citizen. He was already giving aid 98 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: and comfort to the enemy. That's why he was detained. 99 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: Marco Rubia, the Secretary of State, was absolutely right. And 100 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: now he's referring to the attack by Hamas and the 101 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: Palestinians on Israel as. 102 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: We what's he still doing in the country. 103 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: Free speech is for American citizens, not for others, and 104 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: support of terrorist organizations ain't for no one I mean, 105 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: you can do it, but deal with the consequence is booboo. 106 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: I want to know how this guy is still in 107 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 3: the country. How is that possible? 108 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 4: You know? 109 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: Until we start. 110 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: Really admitting that there are some people want to do 111 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: us harm and we shouldn't be harmed, and we should 112 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: always put ourselves in a place where we can push 113 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: back against those people in all the ways one has 114 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: to push back. Until we start getting into this conversation, man, 115 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: we've got problem, real problems. We cannot lie to ourselves 116 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: about what it is we're seeing, what it is we're experiencing, 117 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: and what it is they are trying to do. And 118 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: it's not just in the United States, as I brought 119 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: up Australia, people screaming just like Israel, Australia should not 120 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: be allowed to exist. 121 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 3: Who should win this? Fight them or us? 122 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put our money on us, But right now 123 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: we don't even have enough people who understand what we're 124 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: fighting or how this will be a conversation in the 125 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: days and weeks ahead more to get to this is 126 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: Tony Kats today