1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:00,520 Speaker 1: The name. 2 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 2: You were listening to the Hammer and Nigel show, Kevin 3 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 2: Bowen from when I was seven five to the fan, 4 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: their morning show, our sports talk station here in the building. 5 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 2: To talk about the Colts, their big win. We'll talk IU, 6 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: we'll talk the injury ridden Pacers. A little bit after 7 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: five point thirty. My name is Nigel. That's Guy Relford 8 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 2: filling in for Hammer. One of the things that I 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: thought was funny, and it always comes up when talking 10 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: about Donald Trump and you know, being an authoritarian, being 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: a dictator, is that he's going he's gotten merch to 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: Donald Trump twenty twenty eight, he's going to run for 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 2: a third term. 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: I love this. 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: And look, he was asked about this today and there's 16 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: several ways that people are theorizing that he's going to 17 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: kind of circumvent the constitution. Let me just play this audio. 18 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: Here's Trump ruling out running for the vice presidency in 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight eight, which is an approach again that 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: some of his supporters have floated to allow him to 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 2: serve an additional ternam in office period on how you 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: might try to service third term if you could. 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: Run it to the vice president, Yeah, I'd be allowed 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: to do that. 25 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 2: I think the White House for the legal provision, Yeah, 26 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 2: you'd be allowed to do that, but I would. 27 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: I would. 28 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: I think it's it's too cute. Yeah, I would do 29 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 2: that up because it's too cute. I think that people 30 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: wouldn't like that it's too cute. It's not it would 31 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: be right. And we also has on the record as 32 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: saying I would love to do it though I would 33 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: loved that. 34 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: I would. 35 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: I would love to run for a third term, not 36 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: as vice president, as he was saying that it's too cute. Yeah, 37 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: I'm not going to do that. He can't do it 38 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: any anyway. The twelfth Amendment says anyone constitutionally ineligible to 39 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: be president is also ineligible to be vice president. So 40 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: that's that's, you know, under the twentieth Amendment and the 41 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: twelfth Amendment. But there's some there's people trying to circumvent that. 42 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: Here is I'm going to play somebody you here of 43 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 2: Trump's former advisor Steve Bannon, seems to think that Trump 44 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: has twenty twenty eight in a bag. And this is 45 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: him on something called The Economist podcast a few days ago, and. 46 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 3: Does he need a third time in order to say 47 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 3: that job. Three, Well, he's going to get a third term, 48 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 3: so Trump twenty eight. Trump is going to be president 49 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: in twenty eight, and people just ought to get accommodated 50 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: with that. Say what about the twenty second Amendment. There's 51 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: many different alternatives. At the appropriate time, we'll lay out 52 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: what the plan is. But there's a plan. And President 53 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 3: Trump will be the president in twenty eight. We had 54 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: longer odds in sixteen and longer odds in twenty four 55 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 3: than we got in twenty eight. And President Trump will 56 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 3: be the president United States, and the country needs him 57 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: to be president Ied States. We have to finish what 58 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: we started. 59 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, guy, is this anything Steve Bannon there 60 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: running his mouth? I just don't think the constitution works 61 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: like that. You would have to amend the constitution first. 62 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: There are amendments in place to keep everything that he 63 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: was talking about, including you know, running on a VP 64 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: ticket and then having the person resign and you know, 65 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: you know, having the president resign and having Donald Trump 66 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: as vice president takeover as president. There's amendments in place 67 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: that don't allow for that. 68 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: Listen, anything I want to say about Steve Bannon, He's 69 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: never struck me as a constitutional scholar, and I think 70 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: what you see, you know, the Trump twenty twenty eight 71 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: merge and some of that stuff, people need to understand. 72 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: But Donald Trump is one of the old time great 73 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: trolls in the history of social media, and he loves 74 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: to put stuff out there that just gets people riled 75 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: up and has them running around in circles waving their 76 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: hands in the air. And I just think it's hilarious 77 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: when he does this. The Constitution says what it says, 78 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: and President Trump is plenty smart enough to know that 79 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: any efforts along those lines would not be successful legally. 80 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: And frankly, you know, how do the American people really 81 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: feel about that? Because whoever would run as president, for instance, 82 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: with him as vice president, still has to win the election. 83 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: And how many do you Yeah, that's exactly. But you 84 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 2: have to amend the constitution. You have to draft the amendment, 85 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: you propose it two thirds vote, and both the House 86 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: had Senate ratify it, and then survive litigation, and then 87 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: you have to run. 88 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: And by the way, it has to be ratified in 89 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: thirty nine states. And do you think that happens overnight? 90 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: I mean, look at the last few constitutional amendments and 91 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: how long they they took to even get done. You're 92 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: assuming you can pass the resolution in two thirds by 93 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: a two thirds majority of Congress or a two thirds 94 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: vote in a constitutional convention, and they still get it 95 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: ratified by three quarters of the states. That's thirty nine. 96 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not going to happen. Everybody knows it's 97 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: not going to happen. And I think, Bam, it's not 98 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: smart enough to figure that out. Or maybe he's just 99 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: trolling too, But I think President Trump is just having 100 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: fun with it. To be honest with you, I. 101 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: Do too, you know. And maybe he's talking about Don 102 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: Junior in twenty twenty eight Trump. 103 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: There you go, Trump twenty twenty eight Don Junior. Yeah, yeah, 104 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: or one of the daughters. 105 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: I don't think it's like when that's the argument, like 106 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: we had. We were kind of mocking the no Kings protests, 107 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: and it's so funny those a couple of weeks ago, 108 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: a couple of saturdays ago in the state House, you know, 109 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: and it's not just Trump. It's like, we hate billionaires, 110 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: we hate the people in control. Well I got news. 111 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 2: I got bad news for the people at those New 112 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: Kings protests. Those are highly organized nationwide protests by billionaires, 113 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 2: funded by billionaires. 114 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: That's such a good point, Niche. It is so true. 115 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: You know, if George Soros is writing you a check 116 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: to go to go campaign and protest that you hate billionaires, 117 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: how incredibly hilarious is that? I mean ironic, certainly, but 118 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's just hilarious. 119 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 2: And then we and then of course we get the tweets, 120 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 2: we get the on social media. Well, Donald Trump has merchandise. 121 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: He's openly said he would like to run for a 122 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: third term. What president you think Obama wouldn't have wanted 123 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 2: to run for a third term? Exactly, He didn't go 124 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: out and nobly say it. I don't think like Donald 125 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: Trump does. But like you said, Trump could be the 126 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: ultimate trol of the people that hate him the most. 127 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: Again, and don't ever and you and I I know 128 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: agree on this completely, but don't ever discount the value 129 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 1: that Trump puts in just trolling people, just totally making 130 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: people spend I think when when they when they commemorate, 131 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: when they finally get done with the ballroom right, that 132 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: he's is causing all this controversy, which I also think 133 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: it is hilarious. 134 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 2: That's a whole. Yeah, I'm so glad you brought that up. 135 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 2: The ballroom that he's paying for by money. 136 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, but when they commemorate that, I think it would 137 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 1: be completely like like Trump to come out with a 138 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: big plaque that says, yes, this is his Royal Majesty 139 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: Donald Trump ballroom. You know, just just totally to get 140 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: people spinning on this whole No kick. 141 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: Gigs, is that all they have? Like when they were yeah, 142 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: there was a twenty four hour news cycle maybe forty 143 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: eight when they were you know, morning Joe was saying, 144 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: oh my dear lord, I can't believe look at the 145 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: because the White House was under construction, right right, and 146 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: so it was east pretty bad, was it? The East Wing? 147 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: It's just sill over a soccer that was built in 148 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: the forties. I mean, it's not like it's been there since, 149 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, they rebuilt it after the War of eighteen twelve. 150 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: They just they built the east wing to hide a 151 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: bunker that they built in the forties during World War Two. 152 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: It's sick, is that what they have to complain about. 153 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: After Donald Trump just basically all but solved the Hamas 154 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 2: Israeli conflict and got the hostages back, well, We really 155 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: can't talk about that anymore. But me and Donald Trump 156 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: spending his own money to construct a ballroom on the 157 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: White House. 158 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: That's all they have exactly. Do you see what what 159 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: Representative Swallwell said today, Oh this is hilarious. He said, 160 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: he said it should be a precondition of any Democrat 161 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: running for president in twenty twenty eight that they commit 162 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: to tear down Trump's ballroom. Tear it down. Okay, it was, 163 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: it was. It was what he was paid for with 164 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: no government funds, all private funds. And you know, and 165 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: and and by the way, do you know they have 166 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: a bunch of these state dinners where they bring it 167 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: in emperors and kings and prime ministers and presidents and 168 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: they have them intents. 169 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 170 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's dumb like your brother in law's you know, 171 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: brother in law's wedding you with a big white tents 172 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: and and this isn't the White House. And so we're 173 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: building a ballroom. Swalwell says, in order to run for 174 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: president twenty twenty you have to commit to tear it down, 175 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,599 Speaker 1: bring in bulldozers and knock it down. These people. You 176 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: talk about Trump derangement syndrome. He's got with the oh, 177 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: it's that's classic.