1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: Every day. It's like Halloween. It's always scary. I just 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, Casey what. 3 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: Well, Look, here's what I'm struggling with. Okay, because when 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: I was a kid, you know, I would get great 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: grades reading comprehension, you know, the I step, which is 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: what it was called back then. I did very well 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: on the reading portion of the exams in school. Math 8 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: not my thing, but reading English great marks. And so 9 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: I think I know how to read, I hope so. 10 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: And I think I know how to comprehend what I'm reading. 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: And this is what I'm struggling with because what I'm 12 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 2: reading here says that Duke Energy is about to get 13 00:00:54,320 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: a potentially massive rate increase for its users. But I'm 14 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: struggling because our governor, who would never lie to anyone 15 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: and has a great track record of honesty and integrity. 16 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like he went to a rally 17 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: in front of a thousand people and told him he 18 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: was going to fight for him and then just caved 19 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 2: and screwed everybody. Right. Well, now, according to the Indiana 20 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 2: Capitol Chronicle, yeah, Duke is gonna get this potentially massive 21 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: rate increase. And the governor had just said one of 22 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: the key components to whoever is going to be appointed 23 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: to the i u r C. The Indiana Utility Regulatory 24 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 2: Commission not be raising rates on people, correct. So you 25 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: can see how someone who was very skilled in reading 26 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: comprehension is struggling with this. That Governor dishonesty said no 27 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: more rate increases, and yet we're about to. 28 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: So confused financials. 29 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: Help me, Casey make sense of this. 30 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can. The financial impact the 31 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: rat increases are going to be phased in every six 32 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: months to minimize rate shock. Rob. 33 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: So we're gonna screw you, but we want to We'll 34 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: do it slowly. 35 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: It's like a drip drip drip process. 36 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 2: Okay, so this is I would It's not even wild, 37 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: it's just totally expected. Look, bron is a habitual liar. 38 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: He doesn't give a damn about you. He has screwed 39 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: you so many times already in the past ten months, 40 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: and it will just continue. The screwing will continue until 41 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: voting improves. So the Capital Chronicles is of an article 42 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: in this that UH regulators have now approved Duke energies. 43 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: It's a three point three billion dollar plan. Oh plus 44 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: financing plus financing coming part of right, duke don't got 45 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 2: three point three bill laying around, so somebody's got to 46 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: front them the three point three bill. Can you imagine 47 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: having access to three point three billion dollars? Like, think 48 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 2: about when you when you get your home loan, right, 49 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: you know, three hundred dollars in your case five point 50 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 2: five million, you know, whatever it may be. And what 51 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: a stressful sort of like engagement that is, I have 52 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: three hundred thousand dollars, please, and they examine every crevice 53 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: of your existence, and they want to know who you 54 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 2: dated in high school and they're digging through your Yeah, 55 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 2: think about all that just to get a you know, 56 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: a home loan. Can you imagine who do you go 57 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: to for three point three bill billion dollars anyway? Oh? 58 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: You know who you go to? The taxpayers? 59 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: Well that's exactly the rate payers. Right. So they want 60 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: to like essentially phase out these coal powered plants at 61 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: the West Central Cayuga Generating Station, and they want to 62 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: place them with natural gas versions of these plants, which 63 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: they are saying would essentially not quite but almost triple 64 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: the output, because well, what have we said? They got 65 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: triple the output? All these energy companies do because of 66 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: all these data centers that we as the taxpayers are 67 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: subsidizing through the abatement's ninety C giveaways. They need all 68 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: this power that we don't have, so we got to 69 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: get more power for them. So then we're double subsidizing 70 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 2: them because now Duke says, well, we got to raise 71 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: everybody's rates to do this three point three billion dollar 72 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: plus financing endeavor. 73 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: Here. Yeah, okay, so the initial rate hike a dollar 74 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: eighty seven a month for residential customers, projected total impact 75 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 1: nineteen dollars and thirty seven dollars a month. But darn it, Rob, 76 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: the governor just said his priority was no more rate increases. Well, 77 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: I mean, this must be a trick. It is Halloween 78 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: trick or t creed. This is just trick. 79 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: So the the Office of Utility Consumer Counselor, this is 80 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: all the way back in May, urged this to be defeated. 81 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: And what I cannot fathom is how the governor did 82 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: not publicly say, look, I have new appointees coming on. 83 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: This is a massive decision you guys are gonna make. 84 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 2: I respectfully ask that the current i u RC and 85 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: the current governing body delay this decision until the new 86 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: appointees are in. Who could come in and look at 87 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: this with fresh eyes. Hey, if they decide to do it, 88 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: then that's on them. But the fact that they slammed 89 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: this through approved that at the very end, the last minute. 90 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: I mean, we've told by merrity're getting ready to make 91 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: these nominations to the governor. 92 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: Well, they've been doing interviews anytime now. 93 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: They deliberately did this so that they these current people 94 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 2: appointed under previous regimes can make this choice and screw everybody. 95 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 2: And once again we have seen through the state government, 96 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: the state of Indiana be in bed with these mega 97 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: for profit utility companies at the expense of everyone else. 98 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so not a word from Braun. 99 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: By the way, I haven't heard this has been out 100 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: for a day now. This happened early yesterday, and I 101 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: haven't heard a word from Braun about this or his 102 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: goof lieutenant governor. Neither one of these people have said anything, 103 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: or any state lawmaker. I haven't seen any lawmaker come 104 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: out and pound their fist. Where are the people who 105 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: are supposed to be for us, casey, where are the 106 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 2: people who are supposed to be on our side? 107 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. It is an eighty page order. Maybe 108 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: they just haven't read it yet. 109 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 2: Oh sure, yeah, I bet that's the issue. 110 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: So the Citizens' Action Coalition they condemned the decision. They 111 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: called it unfair to rate payers. 112 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know what you can get with 113 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: that and a quarter nothing? Nothing Like I'm so sick 114 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: and I'm not blaming these people, but these this consumer 115 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: advocate coming out and saying, because it seems like we 116 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 2: see this all the time, Oh, this is bad for 117 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: the rate payers, So that is bad for the rate payers. 118 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: And yet all of this stuff just seems to get 119 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: rubber stamped and it just goes right on through. And 120 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: in this case, it appears very obvious to me that 121 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: instead of doing the right thing and saying, hey, the 122 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: governor's given new instructions so that he has a new priority. 123 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 2: We have a new governor's we've got these people. I mean, 124 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 2: all these people were coming off I think, you know, 125 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: agreed or or didn't. I didn't see any intense pushback 126 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: from any of these people who are leaving the i 127 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: u RC. Let's give these new people a chance to 128 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: take a look at this major issue. If they come 129 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: to the same conclusion that that's great. If they don't, 130 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: that's on them. Well, you know, they figured out going forward, 131 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: but they slammed this through at the end to ensure 132 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 2: it went forward because they wanted to screw us. 133 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: So the governor's passing out candy today, maybe you could 134 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: go trick or treating. 135 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: Are they one hundred dollars bills so I can pay 136 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: my electric? Is that what they are? 137 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: No, he's passing out Indiana in Indiana based candy. Okay, 138 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: from six until eight North Meridian Street. He'll be there 139 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: with his staff. 140 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 2: Okay, you think how much would I have to pay 141 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: a small child to deliver no message message to the governor. 142 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: Here's the problem, though, you. I think you hit the 143 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 2: mail on the head with this yesterday. If I knew 144 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: it's two hours, is that right? 145 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 146 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: If I knew for two hours, brom was going answer 147 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: that door every single time, I would send a small 148 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: child up to the Governor's mansion and I would financially 149 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: accommodate his family accordingly to deliver a message to the governor. 150 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: But I think you're right. I don't think he's going 151 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: to answer the door the entire time. I think you're 152 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: gonna get five minutes a photo op, and then he's 153 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: gonna go to bed for the evening. 154 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: I don't even think he'll be opening the door. I 155 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: believe it'll just be out on the sidewalk. 156 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: Oh No, they'll have some photo op where they have 157 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: some pre approved junior cricket treat crick or treat, and 158 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: then Grandpa's gonna get out of his recliner, probably wearing 159 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 2: his blue shirt, and him and his wife are going 160 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: to answer the door and look all surprised, and they're 161 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 2: gonna give the kid the candy. And then you know, 162 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: it's like Roger Goodell at the NFL draft, you know how, 163 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: like the first day he handles the draft ease and 164 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 2: then by the time you get to guys names that 165 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: no one can pronounce, it's some low level guy in 166 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 2: the office. That's the way it is with trick or Treating. 167 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: The first sets of photo ops, he'll take it. And 168 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: then you know, I'm not going to risk, you know, 169 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 2: twenty dollars of my hard earned money for some kid 170 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: to have to deliver a message to an intern that'll 171 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: ever get back to brawl. 172 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: It won't get back to him. It is Kendall and 173 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: Casey it's ninety three WYBC. 174 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: See, I was right about what you want to do 175 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 2: the story yesterday, and I said, someone else will do 176 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: all the work on this and if we just wait 177 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: long enough. 178 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: I did ask you like three times you want to 179 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: talk about this, you want to talk about this, and 180 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: you're like, now, let's just wait, Let's just wait, and 181 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: then lo and behold Indie Reporters to the rest of you. 182 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, So Casey wanted to do this story yesterday 183 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 2: and I told her. I said, Casey Steven, our old 184 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: pal Steven at Indie Reporter, who I would love. We 185 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: should do a documentary. Someone should do a documentary on 186 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: the life of the Indie. There's a team. There's like 187 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: four people and the other three are shrouded in mystery. 188 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 2: If most people listen to this program, note there's a 189 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: really fun account that covers Indiana politics and government. It's 190 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 2: called Indie Reporter. It's at Indie Underscore, Reporter Underscore, and 191 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 2: there's like four of these people. Three of them are 192 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: shrouded in mystery like some secret society. 193 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: People their own safety. 194 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: And then Steven Whitmer, who had run for run for 195 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: State House before in Indianapolis, is sort of like the 196 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 2: face of the Indian reporter account, and all these people 197 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 2: do have no idea what they do for jobs. I don't. 198 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: I don't like, I don't. It's like it's like very mysterious. 199 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: But they have time collectively all day to be some 200 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 2: sort of super team that just reads and processes very 201 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 2: hard to understand government documents and paperwork. And so everybody 202 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: should totally follow the Indie Reporter Twitter account. And I 203 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: told you yesterday when you wanted to talk about the drones, 204 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: they said, Steven sent me a bunch of stuff. I 205 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: didn't understand half of it, but I know if we 206 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: just wait for an entire day, he will do all 207 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: the work and put a post out on it, so 208 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: I don't have to do any effort whatsoever. 209 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: And he did, and he did. 210 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: All right, So you give us high level what's going 211 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 2: on in the drones, and then I'll tell you why 212 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: this is interesting. 213 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: Okay. So there's a new executive order that came from 214 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: the Governor Mike Brawn and it's to position Indiana to 215 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: be a lead in the federal government's quote mission of 216 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: American drone dominance. 217 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: That sounds very ominous, doesn't it. 218 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: Well, they want to develop some cross sector aerial testing. 219 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: They want to make Indiana a corridor for it, and 220 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: it's part of defense and training. 221 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: Now, on the surface, that sounds okay, I guess right, 222 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: But then when you couple it with all the things 223 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 2: that our state is doing as it relates to data 224 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: centers and all of this stuff, it just sounds maybe 225 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 2: the name is just spooky, is it because it's the 226 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: Halloween season? But the branding of this sounds very spooky, 227 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: doesn't it. 228 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: Well, one of the things they want to do is 229 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: they want to make Indiana a drone max manufacturing high 230 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: point now according thanks, you got to did their high 231 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: point drone. 232 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: Now according to And this is sort of like how 233 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 2: how all of this stuff sort of ties together. So 234 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: this is what Steven and the indie reporter people came 235 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 2: up with. Then this is fascinating. So I'm gonna just 236 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: read what he put because like it's it's so one 237 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: of the things that these people depend on. This really 238 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: came out in the IDC audit. The government and the 239 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: IDC depend on an inability for you to follow stuff, right. 240 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: It gets so it's so obvious that the the entanglement 241 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: on this, right, like when you read that IDC Audit 242 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 2: and all this stuff that was going on, and then 243 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: the Indie Star report on those three Kings guys and 244 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,479 Speaker 2: where all the money was going and how it was benefiting. 245 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: There's these subcommittees. This group over here points this, this 246 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: group over here does that. You can't because it's the 247 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 2: quasi government. Any you can't, and fun of the people 248 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 2: just give up. They just go, well, I guess I'm 249 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: getting screwed. Okay, onto the next thing. And so like, 250 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: I don't know how long it took them to put 251 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: this together, and it's very fascinating. So what he wrote 252 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: is part of the executive Order is creating a quote 253 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: Drone Dominance Task Force. 254 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they want to advance manufacturing. 255 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: Which sounds like something that might blow up my house someday. 256 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 2: We've had enough of Rob Kendall at WIBC. Let's let's 257 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: take out his place of residence. Doesn't that sound pretty creepy? Well? 258 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: Possibly, I doubt that about a name, like all. 259 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: The things they could come up with, and they said, 260 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: let's call it drone Dominant, because when I think of 261 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: a drone, I think of those things that just fly 262 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: over houses. Right, Oh, let's drop a little napalm on 263 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: Rob's house. Well, let's see what happened. Right. I'm not 264 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: saying that's going to happen, but it does sound very spooky. Anyway, 265 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 2: there's a basically a board, for lack of a better term, 266 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: the task force that will be appointed to oversee this 267 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: task force. And according to the people at Indie Reporter, 268 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 2: one of the people appointed is going to be from 269 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: the Applied Research Institute, and that is a group that 270 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: was talked about in the Star article about the three 271 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: Kings guys with the with the IEDC who were basically 272 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: dictating where money was going the taxpayer money was going 273 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: from the IEDC, what groups, et cetera, And a lot 274 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: of that money ended up going to groups and companies 275 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: that were in some way affiliated with the people who 276 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: were delegating the money. So then he says that Senator 277 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: Greg good Good Good Good, who were going to talk 278 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: about next, he is, I believe, and I believe he 279 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: still is the state director for Todd Young. Now, I 280 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: told you I saw this Greg Good Good guy before 281 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: at that Clay County Lincoln day when Diego Morales and 282 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: I got into it. He was like the intro guy 283 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: for Todd Young, and his speech was like a pullit 284 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: Bureau speech. You know how I used the old videos 285 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: was Stalin or Saddam Hussein where the guy just kept 286 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: praising and you had to keep clapping and like if 287 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: you stop, somebody got their hands chopped off or you know, 288 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: somebody lost an ear or something like that. Like that 289 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: was what the speech was. It was like, oh my gosh, 290 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: this is pathetic. One grown man is saying this this 291 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: much stuff about another grown man. Anyway, Steven goes on 292 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 2: to identify that the former state director for Todd Young 293 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: and this and and who this guy was, and that 294 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: person is now the current president and CEO of reply 295 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 2: of Applied Research Institute after one of those guys who 296 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: was mentioned in the Three Kings article stepped down and 297 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: so that group, Applied Research Institute, of which this guy 298 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: who is very connected to Todd Young is going to 299 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: now sit on this board. And clearly Todd Young is 300 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 2: hyper involved in this what do they call this? This 301 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: drone what was the name of the drone Dominance Task Force? 302 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: So you so, if you're concerned about this, Todd Young 303 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: has his fingerprints all over this thing. 304 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the executive order was developed in collierration with 305 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: Todd Young because he wants to support the federal government's 306 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: mission for American drone dominance and some of the think 307 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: about this. Some of the assets that we have here 308 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: in Indiana include crane also restricted airspace over Camp Addabury. 309 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: And so one of the things that you realize with 310 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 2: the and this is one of the things that Indie 311 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 2: Reporter account does very well, is the just incestuous nature 312 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: of all of this. Like nothing happens accidentally with the government. 313 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: It's always somebody connected to somebody. It's never like, oh, 314 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: this would be great and let's just get to the 315 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: randomly best people to see this. It's always people that 316 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: are uber connected into the government, into these business people. 317 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: And then you've got to start asking yourself what are 318 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: the projects going to be, who is going to make 319 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: money off of it, and who are they connected to? 320 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: What politicians are they connected to, and how much money 321 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 2: has been given back to these politicians. 322 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: Now they say that some of the assets are to 323 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: use the universities with drone research and development programs. Did 324 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: the article mention which universities. I'm just going to guess 325 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: it's Purdue. 326 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: Maybe Rose Hollman, I don't know for sure. Okay, what's 327 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: a better engineering program? Is it purduers at Rose Hallman? 328 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: Who's better? 329 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: Now? Who's better? 330 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 331 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: I would say Purdue, but they may be I don't know, 332 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: more known for it. 333 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: Like, am I just a conspiracy theorist? To say this 334 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: sounds very, very creepy. And when you couple with like 335 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: what we just laid out on who these people are 336 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 2: that are connected into this thing, and that at the 337 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: tip of the spear on all of this appears to 338 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: be Todd Young, are are esteemed the Duke of Spendingberg 339 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: are esteemed senior senator from the state of Indiana. You go, ooh, 340 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 2: I think we should really learn more about this before 341 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: going forward. 342 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean I think obviously this is a 343 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: large project which tips into national security. And so you've 344 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: got Todd Young and he has the governor joining him. 345 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: They do this executive order, and they get together and 346 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: collab and say, okay, who do we know, who do 347 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: we have who can do this? 348 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: Well, you got a minute. 349 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: They use their people. 350 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: Although this is aside whether we're all going to get 351 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 2: blown up or not, you gotta admit it's pretty good. 352 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: On my part. I can read people. 353 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: This is what I do. 354 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 2: I read the people you knew Steven was if I 355 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 2: just waited long enough somebody else to do all the 356 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 2: work on this, then I could just sit twiddling my 357 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: thumbs and watch the football games. 358 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's get into what Senator Greg Good 359 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: put out. 360 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: It's good good, good good. Well, we don't know it 361 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 2: is today. I don't know which one it is. Yeah, 362 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: you know who is Okay, So we mentioned Greg good Good. 363 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 2: He's a senator. 364 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: He's having an event about redistrict. 365 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: Yes, he's over in Vigo, Vigo County, and and there's 366 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: something fascinating going on with this event that he's having 367 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 2: on redistricting. But in the meantime, someone who is always 368 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: good good is Jared Lewis with the News. 369 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: He's up next on ninety three WIBC. 370 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 2: Okay, a state senator is doing something, and I want 371 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 2: to get your opinion on if this is because I 372 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: think this is smart, although I think he's a little 373 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: off on what he's actually doing. But I don't know, 374 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. You're the voice of reason on this program, 375 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 2: so I gotta give it up to you, Casey jo Rob, 376 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 2: that's Casey. So we mentioned him last segment, Greg Goodgood. 377 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: He is Todd Young's professional butt kisser, like that's his job. 378 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: He's some former state director for I think he still is. 379 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: I don't. I think he I think that's still his job. 380 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: I don't. I'll have to look that up. But he was. Yes, 381 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: he is Todd Young's right hand man. His his uh 382 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 2: tonto to the lone ranger, right, and he is now 383 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: a senator from the Vigo Vigo County area. Now we 384 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: call him good Good because it's spelled good is how 385 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 2: he spells his name. And I think Clay County is 386 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 2: in his district as well. He is a Republican and 387 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: he is one of the senators who is a no 388 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 2: on redistricting. 389 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: Correct, And if you'd like to find if you're looking 390 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: for mister Goodbar, you can find him at an event 391 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: he's hosting at the Terra Hoe City Hall. 392 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 2: So he had said, Hey, this weekend is coming weekend, 393 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 2: and lieu of the special sessions starting sometime in the 394 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 2: near future, I would like to have a town hall 395 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: to hear from you, my constituents, on what do you 396 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 2: think about redistricting? Now. As soon as he put this out, 397 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 2: the internet influencer people were like, Yeah, everybody go and 398 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 2: storm the bastille and everybody go tell him what you 399 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: think and blah blah blah. And so they obviously saw 400 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 2: this and they were like, okay, new rules for this thing. 401 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: If you ain't my constituent, you ain't getting in. And 402 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 2: now people are up in arms, or the fact that 403 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 2: they put this pretty tight requirement on because they wanted 404 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 2: to go scream at him and tell him, if you 405 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: don't redistrict, we're gonna blah blah blah. And this is Casey, 406 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 2: what is my least favorite part of every show? 407 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: Oh, when you have to remind everybody that you write 408 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: about something And. 409 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: What have I been saying for a really months now 410 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 2: on this program? These senators don't care for the most part. 411 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: Now there's some of them that are pretty weak, but 412 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 2: most of them don't care, especially the ones that just 413 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 2: kind of hide in the shadows and just like the 414 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: job and the power and the perks. They don't care 415 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: what anybody thinks but their constituent because that's the only 416 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 2: people who can vote them up and the only people 417 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: can vote them down. And there will be some that 418 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 2: the DC Draino people of the world are gonna flip. 419 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: But for the ones they need to get. If it 420 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: ain't coming from their constituents, it ain't gonna move them 421 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: one way or another. 422 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: And what are we seeing here, Well, he's requiring that 423 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: you live within his district if you want to participate. 424 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: Okay, So part of me sees this and says, good move, 425 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 2: because all that really matters is what your constituents think. 426 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: I mean, you see this all the time, where there's 427 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 2: a project that might be good for one area and 428 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: be bad for another area. Us a senator, even if 429 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 2: it might be good for quote unquote the state as 430 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 2: a collective, your job is to represent your constituents. So 431 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 2: good move on that. However, one of the issues I 432 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 2: have is in the name of transparency, I think you 433 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 2: should let people in. But I'm fine with only letting 434 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: your constituents speak. Is he making a mistake by not 435 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: letting everybody in? 436 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: I don't believe so. I mean, they only have so 437 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: much space, right, And as you've seen online, many people 438 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: are saying I'm gonna be there. I mean Tony Katz, 439 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 1: for example, has said I'll see you there. Well, I 440 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: think they gave out to live in that district. 441 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think they gave out media passes to 442 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: members of the press. Now they obviously have. If you're 443 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 2: in there as a member of the press, you have 444 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 2: those people tend to think pop Brey get in the back. 445 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 2: They're gonna know the rules of decorum. They're not gonna 446 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: be screaming at you one way or another, so you 447 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: don't worry about that. So I get what he's worried about, 448 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 2: which is, you know, on either side, right, But it 449 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 2: seems like on this one, the lunatic people are on 450 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: the on the right. On this one, it seems like 451 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 2: the like the thus far now obviously that's as they 452 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 2: say in pro wrestling card subject subject to change, but 453 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: the just obsession people seem to be people on the right. 454 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 2: And I'm sure he was like, I'm not gonna get 455 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: screamed at by some guy who lives in Muncie, right. 456 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: Well, he's not excluding everybody though, because he said he'll 457 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: be you'll be provided with an opinion form that he 458 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: will review later. If you're not somebody who lives within 459 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: his district, they're gonna let you still give your opinion 460 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: just what like outside, Yeah, he said, those who are 461 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: unable to provide proof of district residency, will remain outside 462 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: and will be provided with an opinion form that Centator 463 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: good will review. Okay, so he's still gonna he's still 464 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: gonna see what you have to say. 465 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: He's going to ignore you in the order in which 466 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 2: you received, but you can fill out a form and 467 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: be ignored. 468 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 1: I mean, they've got some guidelines here. Respectful behavior required 469 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: at all times, no signs are political materials permitted. Just 470 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: eruptions will result in removal. Each speaker is allowed up 471 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: to two minutes. They say that the Senator is going 472 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: to listen only. This won't be a debate or discussion. 473 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: It's smart and I mean I get it. He puts 474 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: it out there. Hey, due to fire codes, we have 475 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: limited space. Okay, they're expecting a large crowd yep, because 476 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: this is a hot button issue. He wants the people 477 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: talking directly to him or engaging with him to be 478 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: people who voted for him or against him. 479 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 2: Okay, you're winning me over. 480 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: Say anybody else can go. You're just not going to 481 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: get the mic. 482 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh you can't go get in. 483 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: Well, you can stand outside and give your opinion in writing. 484 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 2: And I guess if the media is allowed in which 485 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: it appears they're going to be allowed in. Then they 486 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: can report on the whole thing. I assume, now this 487 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 2: is dangerous me to do, but I assume they will 488 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 2: allow like live streaming of the event, so you'll be 489 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: able to see it, like if you know one of 490 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: the members of the press, Tony Katz or whoever. But 491 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: what did I I just want to come back. 492 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: To, Yeah, I don't see anything about no cameras or cloud. 493 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: Why anybody ever doubts me on this show? I don't know, 494 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: Like you know, who was the person who got that 495 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 2: the Lieutenant Governor's office is under grand jury investigation? Exactly 496 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: right me. I don't know why people doubt me. I've 497 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: told people for months now there will be some weak 498 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: people that will be swayed based on d C. Draino, 499 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: who lives in Florida. But the people you need to get, 500 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: the people are gonna be in the Rod Bray style camp. 501 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to flip to get this thing fixed. 502 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: You ain't gonna do it on Twitter, you ain't gonna 503 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: do it even here talk radio. It's gonna have to 504 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 2: be the people that live in that district showing clear 505 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 2: passion for the issue, and it just doesn't seem like 506 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: that exists outside side of a group of very vocal 507 00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 2: people with megaphones, which is fine on social media certainly 508 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 2: some conservative activists in the state. But again, if you 509 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 2: don't live in my district, I don't care what you think. 510 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: Right, it's what It's not his problem. He's there to 511 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: represent the people of Ego County. 512 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 2: Now, for some people in the YouTube chatter saying they 513 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 2: shouldn't let Kats in because of his very vocal stance 514 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: on redistricting, Kats will behave himself. He's not going to 515 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: be screaming at the senator and it's not even a 516 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 2: Q and A anyway, so there's nothing you're going to 517 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: be able to get him on. He's clearly let out 518 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: the ground rules and I'm here to listen to you. 519 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: I'm not going to debate you or anything else. So 520 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 2: that's fine. They should let Kats in. There's no problem 521 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: with that. 522 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this, but two days 523 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: ago Dan Spieler from Fox fifty nine, Yeah, he reported. 524 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: Governor Brown tells me fourteen senators are publicly for redistricting 525 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: and says probably another eight are privately for it. It 526 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: ain't enough of two a vote. We're real close. That 527 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 1: would make twenty two votes twenty five needed. 528 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, And I've known Dan Spieler for a 529 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 2: long time. Used to do a little work for Dan's 530 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 2: Spieler years ago when he was in the high school 531 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 2: sports broadcasting business. Used to be on Dan Spieler. I've 532 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: told you this story, right. I used to be on 533 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 2: the you know, Fox fifty nine, CBS four has this 534 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 2: weekend political show and I used to be the Republican 535 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 2: guy from time to time that would come on. And 536 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: then they stopped inviting me. And I think they stopped 537 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 2: inviting me because I was too mean to the Republicans 538 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 2: like they want, like you know, I'm in I'm in 539 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 2: that camp. And then it just became like a bunch 540 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 2: of people, the Republicans, because I was too mean to them. 541 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,360 Speaker 1: Was it before you got your hair done? 542 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 2: Uh oh yeah, it's a long time ago. Yeah. 543 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's really why. 544 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: It's probably too beautiful for the camera. 545 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: It is Kendel and Casey. It's ninety three w IBC. 546 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 2: Calling the barrow. It sounds dollars and battle. 547 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 1: Will come down. 548 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 2: And correct grammer would be and and Indiana if I 549 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 2: were saying in Indiana, like a Indiana, you's got to 550 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: have an inn if it's a fowl, right, correct? 551 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: And India going to back to your previous statement that 552 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: you can read. 553 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,959 Speaker 2: Yes, an Indiana institution appears to be in big trouble 554 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: and we've reported out it before, but it seems like 555 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: it's getting worse and not better. 556 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jack's Donuts has filed for Chapter eleven bankruptcy. The 557 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: filing lists over fourteen million dollars in liabilities and one 558 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: point four million in personal property assets. 559 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: And this is a horrible story because it was, or 560 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 2: at least for a time, appeared to be this incredible 561 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: hoo's your success story? Now? Years ago, when I had 562 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: my county radio show in Hindricks County, my night show, 563 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: I had the guy who was the face, not exactly 564 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: the founder, but it was his family and then he 565 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: took it over in elevator. Lee Markham was the guy's name. 566 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: And it's this incredible stort. I'm trying to remember all 567 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 2: of it off the top of my head. But his 568 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: grandpa owned this do I think this is out? What 569 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 2: his grandpa owned this donut shop in Newcastle? He he 570 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: you know, he takes it over. He's doing great with it, 571 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 2: and then starts franchising these this donut shop, Jack's Donuts, 572 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 2: out across central Indiana and they're you know, it's popular. 573 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 2: The donuts are great. People are opening these stores left 574 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: and right. You know, this guy, he's a younger guy, 575 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: I think my age maybe a little older, you know, 576 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 2: so at the time, he's in his early mid thirties, 577 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: cheerful guy, very involved in the community. Got this great 578 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 2: story about this family business, and everybody's like, oh man, 579 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: this is the most Indiana thing ever. Well, over the 580 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 2: past couple of years they went really big with it. 581 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 2: Appears with Jack's Donuts. WRTV, amongst others, have the reporting 582 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: on this. It's all over Cintraleniana news publications. And he 583 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: started this basically what they called it a commissary in 584 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 2: Newcastle where they started. 585 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: Making all the stuff in a one location and. 586 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: Then shipping it out to people. Right. Yeah, and it 587 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: appears to have failed miserably. We've done stories on this 588 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 2: before where people weren't getting their products. They would go 589 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 2: days or weeks without stuff. They were having to come 590 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: up with makeshift ways get donuts from other stores. Like 591 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: it's just been this colossal disaster, and there's all these 592 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: civil lawsuits, civil judgments against him in millions of dollars. 593 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: And now now it is, like I said, culminated in 594 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: in October twenty ninth filing of Chapter eleven bankruptcy. 595 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Carter Logistics, which is a transportation company, is 596 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,239 Speaker 1: among one of their creditors, and they've sued them. They 597 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: sued them back in April for seven hundred thousand dollars. 598 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: They said, that's how much Jackson Donuts owed them. But 599 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: Chapter eleven that allows them to reorganize under court supervision, 600 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: and their goal is to repay their creditors over time 601 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: keep the business alive. And the independent franchisees aren't going 602 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: to be affected by this, though, well. 603 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 2: They're going to be affected in the sense of there's 604 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 2: clearly some serious issues with this co well sure being 605 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: able to help their franchisease. 606 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: But if there's a Jack's Donuts near you, it will 607 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: remain open for now. 608 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 2: True. I mean, I'm not trying to be like uber 609 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: negative about this. I mean, there's many fine people who 610 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: own these and their local merchants, and they want to 611 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 2: do well, but there's clearly some systemic issues in this 612 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 2: company in which they say they have one hundred According 613 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: to WRTV, they have one hundred creditors and fourteen point 614 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: two million in liabilities. Yeah, and only a one point 615 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 2: four million in personal and personal property assets. 616 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this is well, it seems to me they 617 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: made that switch to go to that one central location, 618 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: the commissary, and that's where the quality of the product deteriorated. 619 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: So if they can financially make it work where they 620 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: make the donuts on site, maybe maybe that's what they 621 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: have to go back to you. 622 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. 623 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: I'm not in the donut making. 624 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,959 Speaker 2: Business, I know, but you've been around business long enough 625 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 2: and big companies, and when you're that far underwater at yeah, 626 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 2: I mean, even if you can find a way to 627 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: like stop the the dam from from breaking further, how 628 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: do you put everything back in the well? 629 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: That was That's what I was going to say, how 630 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: do you get it back? 631 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 2: And I hate this because he you know, I mean, 632 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: he seemed like such a genuine guy. This was ten 633 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: years ago or so that I talked to the guy, 634 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 2: but this was on when he was on the way up, 635 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: and you're like, wow, what a what a cool guy, 636 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: what a cool lfe. You know, you see what the 637 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: Pacers games and stuff, and it was just like, man, 638 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: what a this is the most Indiana story ever. And 639 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 2: now it's just all following. I mean even some of 640 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 2: these brandisa on the on the claims. 641 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: List, the private margin cannot be huge. 642 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: Well, look, anything post COVID is a risk, right, especially 643 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 2: as an individual guy or in this case, you know 644 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: a local company and you know you don't know the 645 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: whole deal, but it sounds like he just got in 646 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 2: over his skis and and he just can't he can't deliver. 647 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: And you know, anyway, if you get story for a donut, 648 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 2: well there's one right down the street here. I'm sure 649 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: they could use the business. 650 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: True, did you see that Hershey is saying that the 651 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: Halloween chocolate sales have not been so sweet. Oh, and 652 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: that's largely because of the price of chocolate. Oh, it's ridiculous, 653 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: has surged thirty percent since last year's Halloween. 654 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 2: Well, and it's this is every year, right, every year 655 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: we have seen this post COVID where the Halloween candy 656 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 2: has just reached a point of it's why when those 657 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 2: kids stole that candy out of that bin that I 658 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: put out that year. I was going to chase him 659 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: down the street and my now wife girlfriend at the time, 660 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 2: thankfully stopped me and was like, you're gonna end up 661 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 2: on the news if you do that. I said, they 662 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 2: stole their kids candy. 663 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: So now hard candy and the mixed bags, they're now 664 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: out selling chocolate. 665 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: That sounds dangerous for a small child to have hard candy. 666 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: Hard candy, wasn't it. It's the second biggest money money 667 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: are well, Yeah, I mean I think you're gonna have 668 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: to monitor all the candy. 669 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like a lot of work. I'll just 670 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: give my kid candy, okay, trigger treat. Yeah. 671 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: It's kind of like Casey on ninety three WYBC.