Speaker 1: Why from dall Hertbeyer and the Crossroads of America, it's
Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.
Speaker 2: The deal is so close you can almost taste it.
Speaker 2: A deal with Iran and Oman and the Strait of
Speaker 2: Hormuz and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. I
Speaker 2: hate the fact that I have to start this way,
Speaker 2: but I got to assume more.
Speaker 3: The lack thereof is the top story.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe it is Abdullah al said, being the tough guy.
Speaker 2: It's so adorable. He is precious, he really is. He's
Speaker 2: like having your very own Tamagachi. Don't forget to feed him.
Speaker 2: Or there's Tucker Carlson with his ten point declaration of
Speaker 2: what a political party in America should be, which sounds
Speaker 2: like a lot of things we would say, except of course,
Speaker 2: without the insanity. And Marjorie Taylor Green Tony Katz, Tony
Speaker 2: Katz today, an.
Speaker 3: Absolute pleasure to be with you. I'm going to get
Speaker 3: into what he said.
Speaker 2: Because it's the funny thing is that I think Tucker
Speaker 2: doesn't understand how he's coming across. And I am more
Speaker 2: and more convinced that the marketplace for his madness is
Speaker 2: slight very very slight, and certainly who he has picked
Speaker 2: to align himself with puts in the same position. Certainly
Speaker 2: when it comes to the idea of war, certainly comes
Speaker 2: to what's going on with Iran. There are people who
Speaker 2: want to scream America first, with all due respect, If
Speaker 2: taking out a terrorist which that's trying to kill you
Speaker 2: isn't America first, I'm not exactly sure.
Speaker 3: What is Marjorie Taylor Green.
Speaker 2: Again, I repeat myself, no serious political anything is done
Speaker 2: with Marjorie Taylor Green, none. Zero. Tucker has still has
Speaker 2: the opportunity to be taken seriously, far more seriously than her.
Speaker 2: But you're gonna align with her, Okay, all right, Sure,
Speaker 2: we're gonna spend even less time thinking about you.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get into that.
Speaker 2: I will get into the tough guy commentary of Abdullah
Speaker 2: al Sayid, because if he thinks that the issue is
Speaker 2: nobody can pronounce abdu ra Lan, well that's not the issue.
Speaker 2: The issue is whether or not you're an Islamo Marxist,
Speaker 2: whether or not you.
Speaker 3: Have connections to care.
Speaker 2: The Council of American Islamic Relations, which is a front
Speaker 2: group for the Muslim Brotherhood, as said by the UAE
Speaker 2: designated a terrorist group by Florida and Texas, and oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, not a very good group of people
Speaker 2: as is lawmist apologists my take on that one. They
Speaker 2: may disagree, but you're gonna complain about APAC. Oh honey,
Speaker 2: kit and boo boo, and then you're gonna get tough
Speaker 2: with Mike Rogers, the Republican running. Yeah, we'll get into
Speaker 2: that too. But can I start not even with what's
Speaker 2: going on with the RAN because there's nothing really to report.
Speaker 2: It's the same as it ever was, and the oil
Speaker 2: prices are showing this.
Speaker 3: We're actually up this morning.
Speaker 2: Like when I was doing my morning show, we were
Speaker 2: at seventy five dollars a barrel. Now we're at seventy
Speaker 2: seven dollars a barrel midday. The brend crude was just
Speaker 2: at about eighty now is at.
Speaker 3: Eighty two thirty eight.
Speaker 2: The Brench crew is what comes out of the ocean,
Speaker 2: so we're seeing a tickup.
Speaker 3: But put that to the side as well.
Speaker 2: Can we agree The one thing in American society can
Speaker 2: we agree on, please, is f the flock cameras can
Speaker 2: say that, right, Parducer Landing, Can I get a ruling?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: As long as the last three letters do not get spelled.
Speaker 2: Okay, as long as the last three letters do not
Speaker 2: get spelled.
Speaker 3: Of the flock.
Speaker 2: Camera, Oh that one?
Speaker 3: Yes, Oh that I can say. Okay, So I did
Speaker 3: it right? Yea, yeah, maybe I got it confused. That
Speaker 3: could have just been terrible.
Speaker 2: There is a story out of NewsNation Newsnationnow dot com.
Speaker 2: All eight flock cameras, according to the Wenona Police Department, Wynona, Minnesota,
Speaker 2: all eight.
Speaker 3: Of them which are next to the Wisconsin border.
Speaker 2: We're missing. Somebody stole all eight flock cameras. Now, I
Speaker 2: do not condone the theft, and that is wrong. But
Speaker 2: let us discuss the American discussed of the flock camera.
Speaker 3: So what is a flock camera? Great?
Speaker 2: Great, great, great question. This is the idea of surveillance.
Speaker 2: So flock Safety is the website flocksafety dot com Clear evidence, safer, communities,
Speaker 2: privacy first, and it reads their website right there on
Speaker 2: their page. Flock connects communities, businesses and public safety, so
Speaker 2: incidents may be understood clearly and decisions can be made
Speaker 2: on facts. Okay, I should be clear that what I'm
Speaker 2: about to discuss has nothing to do specifically with the
Speaker 2: company Flock. I don't know much about the actual company.
Speaker 2: I don't mind a company being in business. These are
Speaker 2: not the things that I concern myself with, and they
Speaker 2: are not the only company that is in this business.
Speaker 2: There is also a company called is it a lawn
Speaker 2: aln that.
Speaker 3: Does this picture the scenario.
Speaker 2: You want to keep your community safe, you.
Speaker 3: Want to keep an eye on things.
Speaker 2: You work with a group like flock and they install
Speaker 2: cameras all around your city and that allows the local
Speaker 2: police department to keep the better eye on things. And
Speaker 2: so if there's a criminal on the loose, or if
Speaker 2: someone's doing this, that or the other, the police can
Speaker 2: handle it and we can stop the crimes. When a
Speaker 2: private business does this, I have zero issue with it whatsoever.
Speaker 2: So I work with a group, right, I work with
Speaker 2: a group called Who's Your Security?
Speaker 3: I do work with them. I'm very clear about this.
Speaker 2: They have a website Catchthebadguys dot com, which their entire
Speaker 2: world is how to utilize. As a matter of fact, Armando,
Speaker 2: give me a call. How do you utilize your camera
Speaker 2: like your existing security camera with their AI tech? And
Speaker 2: the philosophy is, why can't we stop the crime while
Speaker 2: it's happening really before it gets going, so we can
Speaker 2: actually arrest somebody instead of having a camera saying, oh,
Speaker 2: look there's the guy who robbed me stole all my stuff.
Speaker 2: You could actually do something about it. I have zero
Speaker 2: issue with that whatsoever. On the private level, none, absolutely none.
Speaker 2: And they've got like tools that you can get for
Speaker 2: this kind of thing, and trailers you can rent, like
Speaker 2: if you have like like car lots or construction sites
Speaker 2: and things like that, totally fine, absolutely fine. The prime
Speaker 2: if you have home security and you have cameras, that's fine.
Speaker 3: I have cameras, of course I do.
Speaker 2: I don't like the idea that government comes and knock
Speaker 2: and saying, hey, can we get access to your footage?
Speaker 2: That's where it starts to get weird. I am discussing
Speaker 2: the idea of government surveilling the citizenry, no matter how
Speaker 2: it is described. In the end, what is happening is
Speaker 2: that local governments are utilizing these cameras and putting these
Speaker 2: cameras up and oh, the police departments love them. They're
Speaker 2: surveiling the citizen room where I happen to live. The mayor,
Speaker 2: she's lovely, by the way, I like her. On a
Speaker 2: great number of subjects. She's wrong on this. The police
Speaker 2: department is thrilled with these cameras. They were able to
Speaker 2: catch three people who were wanted from a county just
Speaker 2: below us.
Speaker 3: The only way to know that.
Speaker 2: Is if you are surveiling all the people who are
Speaker 2: walking down Main Street and where I live quite literally
Speaker 2: Main Street, right, That's the only way it can happen.
Speaker 2: The government has absolutely no right to surveil the citizen,
Speaker 2: and no citizen should think a rational society has surveillance.
Speaker 2: China has surveillance, NonStop cameras in all plays.
Speaker 3: At all times.
Speaker 2: They have what are referred to as social credit scores.
Speaker 3: Do you smile enough? Did you pick up that piece
Speaker 3: of garbage?
Speaker 2: Well, if your social credit score isn't high enough, no
Speaker 2: travel for you, no opportunities for you. As a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, you get less your rights to the extent
Speaker 2: that you can have a right in a communist nation,
Speaker 2: whether that be in all of China or in Manhattan
Speaker 2: under Bondani, they get taken from you because you are
Speaker 2: not acting appropriately and the camera is watching.
Speaker 3: That is some Philip K. Dick kind of low class stuff.
Speaker 2: That is gross, ugly beyond the pale obscenity.
Speaker 3: This is the last thing a society should want.
Speaker 2: If you want to know the real last thing a
Speaker 2: society should want, that happens when a society tries to
Speaker 2: equalize out in certain ways. You should read Harrison Bergeron
Speaker 2: by Kurt Vonnegut. You can actually see the movie with
Speaker 2: Julie Haggerty. I think it's George C. Scott. It's a
Speaker 2: short film. It'll turn you, it'll turn your stomach. But
Speaker 2: neither here nor there on this subject. We do not
Speaker 2: want a society where we are surveiled. And I will
Speaker 2: have this conversation with anybody in law enforcement anywhere, at
Speaker 2: any time, whether you're a police officer, whether you're a
Speaker 2: police chief, whether you're a sheriff, whether you're FBI retired.
Speaker 2: I start with a baseline. It is not the job
Speaker 2: of the citizen to make easier the job of law enforcement.
Speaker 2: When I say easier, I am saying that my rights
Speaker 2: do not get abused, misused, or taken, so it is easier.
Speaker 3: For law enforce.
Speaker 2: Horseman, not now. Not Ever, The answer is no, I
Speaker 2: understand the role of police. I'm not a defund the
Speaker 2: police guy. Was it Bernie Sanders who just said that
Speaker 2: no serious democrat is talking about defunding the police.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, I've got this to Oh it's gonna
Speaker 3: kill me. I'm gonna find it.
Speaker 2: I think Bertie just said that, no serious democrat is
Speaker 2: talking about defunding the police.
Speaker 3: Adorable. Of course they are, and of course they want to.
Speaker 2: I am not. But I'm also not going to have
Speaker 2: a conversation about putting my rights up for grabs or
Speaker 2: up for debate. Do you have a right to privacy
Speaker 2: in the public square. We've answered that question really in
Speaker 2: America by saying no. If my eyes can see you,
Speaker 2: you're not private, and a recording device can be seen
Speaker 2: as nothing more than your eyes. Now I'm paraphrasing this,
Speaker 2: but I I have the general concept right that is
Speaker 2: of the private citizen.
Speaker 3: If I am.
Speaker 2: Going to name the restaurant and someone has decided that
Speaker 2: they're going to take my picture and post it, oh look,
Speaker 2: Tony Katz went here. First of all, that's weird. But secondly,
Speaker 2: they can do that.
Speaker 3: They can do that.
Speaker 2: That's different than whether your government should be able to
Speaker 2: do that. Your government being restricted is what is so great.
Speaker 3: That is what matters most.
Speaker 2: When President Obama complained about the Constitution.
Speaker 3: He complained that.
Speaker 2: It was a.
Speaker 3: Charter of negative rights.
Speaker 2: It was a negative charter, which is to say that
Speaker 2: the Constitution, if you were to give it a read,
Speaker 2: he talks about what government cannot do to you. It
Speaker 2: does not discuss what government must do for you. I
Speaker 2: always thought that was a very frightening and ugly thing
Speaker 2: for him to say. It is really a great example
Speaker 2: of how diametrically opposed I am to that philosophy. I
Speaker 2: do not want my government to do for me outside
Speaker 2: of Article one, Section eight, provide for the common defense,
Speaker 2: promote the general welfare.
Speaker 3: Right solid. Do I want them to have a military? Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Do I want a government as small and as lean
Speaker 2: as possible doing the basics, Yes, I do. Everything else
Speaker 2: should be up to me. What with the tenth Amendment
Speaker 2: ensuring that the rest of the rights are mine that
Speaker 2: are not actually laid out there within the Bill of
Speaker 2: Rights or within the Constitution itself, it belongs to us.
Speaker 2: Restraining the government was the whole point in Barack Obama.
Speaker 2: The wait for it constitutional scholar seems to have missed.
Speaker 3: He missed the points of the thing.
Speaker 2: That's like reading the New Testament, being like so so
Speaker 2: like who is this Jesus guy again, you have missed
Speaker 2: the point. If you're not, if you can read that
Speaker 2: not under the Constitution is about constraining government. It is
Speaker 2: about amplifying the concepts of liberty now in and of itself.
Speaker 2: If we have a constitution that we are saying that freedom,
Speaker 2: absolute freedom, pure freedom is not the thing we were
Speaker 2: going for. We are going for a rule of law.
Speaker 2: We're looking for the maximum amounts of liberty, which means
Speaker 2: by definition, a level of guardrails. And we keep those guardrails,
Speaker 2: and we keep them as wide away from each other
Speaker 2: as possible. That's a liberty society. That's the society I favor.
Speaker 2: Governments can't track you. If they could track you on
Speaker 2: the street just because they put up the cameras well,
Speaker 2: then what happened to the idea of search, Whatever happened
Speaker 2: to the idea of the Fourth Amendment, whatever happened to
Speaker 2: the idea of a warrant. They're already keeping tabs on you,
Speaker 2: keeping tabs in your location. And we have seen the
Speaker 2: videos out there, a police officer saying we know when
Speaker 2: you left town, we know when you came back, we
Speaker 2: know what you did. Is that right? And the worst
Speaker 2: is the officer acts like a total scumbag in the videos,
Speaker 2: which must be something they train, because no real person
Speaker 2: should ever act like that. So there in Wynoda, Minnesota,
Speaker 2: they tore down the flock cameras to stop this surveillance.
Speaker 2: You can't condone the law breaking of the vandalism there.
Speaker 2: But should you vote out people who want the flock
Speaker 2: cameras and should you vote to remove them? Yes? And
Speaker 2: should you vote for any any politico who wants to
Speaker 2: install them? No? No, you should not keep it here.
Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. Twelve states now having cyber
Speaker 2: attacks on the water supply. Tony Kats Tony Katz today,
Speaker 2: a pleasure to be with you everybody at Michigan and Minnesota.
Speaker 2: We already in Minnesota, Georgia, New Jersey, and South Dakota
Speaker 2: to the list. What's happening is that they are losing
Speaker 2: critical remote control capabilities, forcing operators to switch to manual modes.
Speaker 2: Hackers are getting access to pumps, valves, and water pressure.
Speaker 2: The water itself has remained safe, but you've got the
Speaker 2: fbiv EPA and the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency also
Speaker 2: known as SISSA CISA warning that cyber threat actors had
Speaker 2: remotely accessed online infrastructure for water and waste water systems
Speaker 2: in at least seven states. Now, this is a good
Speaker 2: time to remind people that you don't have to be
Speaker 2: a prepper. You just have to be able to have
Speaker 2: some water in the house to deal with a couple
Speaker 2: of days of things all going apot.
Speaker 3: You are responsible for you, and not everything is going
Speaker 3: to work.
Speaker 2: All the time. There are not only people trying to
Speaker 2: do us wrong. Sometimes things break. If you're not prepared
Speaker 2: to have a few days of water in the house,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? What are you doing?
Speaker 3: You're just going to.
Speaker 2: Depend on government to bring you water. You're not going
Speaker 2: to work on it yourself. You should work on it yourself.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've got to be like a
Speaker 2: underground bunker prepper meals for three years, Mrs kind of guy.
Speaker 2: I do think that you have to have some level
Speaker 2: of preparedness. But this was the part that made me
Speaker 2: lose my mind. The water agencies were advised to disconnect
Speaker 2: their operating programs from the Internet and strengthen their password
Speaker 2: protections and firewalls.
Speaker 3: And I said protections and firewalls. Pass passwords?
Speaker 2: Oh yes, The tactics, while people think this is Iranian
Speaker 2: backed hackers and not one hundred percent sure that's what
Speaker 2: they think. It resembles a twenty twenty three campaign by
Speaker 2: a group that was linked to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard,
Speaker 2: which tapped into water system controllers using default passwords. I'm
Speaker 2: telling you right now, if some water system somewhere has
Speaker 2: a password of password, I want everybody fired today, no pension, nothing.
Speaker 3: We physically throw you out.
Speaker 2: And if you're on the second floor, it's gonna hurt
Speaker 2: because we're still gonna throw.
Speaker 3: Default passwords. What the heck is going on?
Speaker 2: You're telling me that's somewhere the water system of name
Speaker 2: that city has the password of one two three four
Speaker 2: or because it was extra secure one two three four five.
Speaker 4: Default password. I jumped out of my chair when I
Speaker 4: first read that. That's Do you ever wonder whether or
Speaker 4: not everybody's just gotten stupid?
Speaker 2: Well there could be an answer, at least some. I'm
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, so I found the clip the audacity of
Speaker 2: these people. Bernie Sanders being asked a question from the
Speaker 2: people over there pod Save America. I think this is
Speaker 2: clean producer car producer Land and the finger on the
Speaker 2: dumb button just in case me.
Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz the show. Oh is Tony Katz today?
Speaker 2: And this was Bernie Sanders being asked about funding and
Speaker 2: defunding the police.
Speaker 5: As a politics has always been focused on the material
Speaker 5: needs of working class people, and I would say that
Speaker 5: to the extent that you've broken from Democratic Party policy,
Speaker 5: it's usually around economic issues, healthcare, et cetera. There are
Speaker 5: some DSA candidates today, you know, including some who've won
Speaker 5: their primaries the cycle, who've also talked about abolishing prisons,
Speaker 5: defunding or even abolishing the police, abolishing borders. You've never
Speaker 5: been for any of that. Are you worried that taking
Speaker 5: those positions, which are unpopular with most voters and even
Speaker 5: most Democrats, sort of hurt the movement that you've worked
Speaker 5: really hard to build?
Speaker 6: Well, you know, look, people have different views and what
Speaker 6: you know as well as I do that the right wing,
Speaker 6: that's their job, right they will take what one person
Speaker 6: said and put eighty billion dollars of TV ads on
Speaker 6: it and make it claim every Democrats supports that.
Speaker 3: I'm no serious person.
Speaker 6: Then I know who is running for office believes in
Speaker 6: quote unquote defunding the police.
Speaker 2: Stop just stop. Of course they do. Of course the
Speaker 2: DSAY does. Of course these communists do. It isn't some
Speaker 2: Republican boogeyman. Eighty billion dollars worth of ads. It's embarrassing
Speaker 2: from Bernie Sanders. Also in this interview, he looks so
Speaker 2: much like the guys, the judges from the Muppet Show.
Speaker 2: He looks he is a if he had a mustache.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's Stadler or Waldorf. I don't
Speaker 2: know which one it is. But he's really showing his age, truly,
Speaker 2: that a twenty three year old is listening to this
Speaker 2: old man. Here he is lying to you. You have
Speaker 2: candidate after candidate discussing defund the They've been doing so
Speaker 2: for years.
Speaker 3: This isn't some boogeyman.
Speaker 2: And you know it, and he's twenty three year olds
Speaker 2: know it, and these college students know it. And here
Speaker 2: he is lying to you. Why would you buy into
Speaker 2: that wall? If Trump lies to you, you say Trump's
Speaker 2: lying to me, Bernie's lying to you. Just say it, man,
Speaker 2: just say it. He's lying to you, plain and simple.
Speaker 2: They really do want to defund the police. That's who
Speaker 2: they are. So that was that was Bernie. Then there
Speaker 2: is Abdul al Sayed el Sayeed. I think it's really
Speaker 2: pronounced el Sayed. I do want to say it properly.
Speaker 2: So what he has done is he has won the
Speaker 2: Democratic primary and he has now decided he's going to
Speaker 2: be the toughest guy out there.
Speaker 3: Oh is he going to be so tough, so strong,
Speaker 3: so vigorous.
Speaker 2: He's going to keep telling everybody that he's not a
Speaker 2: not a socialist.
Speaker 3: And he goes on a tear. He is just playing
Speaker 3: all sorts of tough guy.
Speaker 2: And after he gets the nomination he takes it to
Speaker 2: the microphone and well, I'm gonna share it with you.
Speaker 2: I think again it's clean. They're pretty sure landing. But
Speaker 2: just in case you're ready. Good stuff who will do
Speaker 2: anything Blue Cross, Blue Shield wants him to do, including
Speaker 2: raise your race.
Speaker 3: Mike Rogers is a guy who introduced legislation to increase
Speaker 3: the flow of opioids. He did that while I was
Speaker 3: in high school.
Speaker 7: Mike Rogers a guy who's politics and vision and perspective
Speaker 7: are old.
Speaker 2: Mike Rogers is a guy who.
Speaker 3: Has never shot away from a corporation.
Speaker 2: You can do a favor for. Mike Rogers is a
Speaker 2: guy who believe it or not went back to the floor,
Speaker 2: so we can lick every single boot Donald Trump owns
Speaker 2: to pay for his endorsement.
Speaker 3: I'm sools are.
Speaker 2: If you want a senator's.
Speaker 3: Gonna lick some boots, fine, go vote for Mike Rodgers.
Speaker 2: But if you want a senator who's gonna stand up
Speaker 2: to Donald Trump, then you've.
Speaker 3: Got your option right here.
Speaker 2: He'll stand with care he'll stand with communists, and everybody
Speaker 2: he disagrees with is a boot licker. So tough and
Speaker 2: so bold. He also said of Mike Rogers that if
Speaker 2: you want to get tough, it's gonna work out very
Speaker 2: bad for you. I mean, it's an obvious, obvious threat
Speaker 2: that he is putting out here when he says, you're
Speaker 2: not going to have safe quarter from people holding you accountable.
Speaker 3: He said those words about Mike Rogers.
Speaker 2: The Republican You are not going to have safe quarterer
Speaker 2: from people holding you accountable.
Speaker 3: So we understand that that's a threat.
Speaker 2: Right, we understand that it's a threat.
Speaker 3: It's clearly a threat.
Speaker 2: But it's part of what is obviously calculated as the
Speaker 2: need to be a tough guy for the people in Michigan.
Speaker 2: Because not only is he gonna get tough with Mike Rogers.
Speaker 2: He said of Mike Rogers that if you want to
Speaker 2: come and have a conversation, well you won't be able
Speaker 2: to handle the questioning, and you're going to wither under
Speaker 2: the questioning because of the crimes you have committed.
Speaker 3: What crimes did Mike Rogers commit?
Speaker 2: What crimes did he commit? He served in the US
Speaker 2: Army from eighty five to eighty nine. What crimes did
Speaker 2: he commit? He was a special agent with the FBI
Speaker 2: from eighty nine to ninety four. He was interviewed to
Speaker 2: be the director of the FBI after Comy was dismissed.
Speaker 2: What crimes serving our country? Twice? But Abdul I'll say
Speaker 2: it also wants to be a tough guy on his name,
Speaker 2: and he decides to pull this Sonny hosting card and say,
Speaker 2: if you can't pronounce my name, don't talk about me.
Speaker 3: You know they think that you want to use my
Speaker 3: whole name against me. Mike, listen, man, if you can't
Speaker 3: say the name is keep the.
Speaker 2: Name out of your damn. If you haven't give me lessons,
Speaker 2: you'll give me lessons in what keeping your name out
Speaker 2: of my mouth? Your website reads Abdul for Senate dot Com.
Speaker 3: Look at it, it's right there. It's right there.
Speaker 2: If you're part of the live stream on YouTube and rumble,
Speaker 2: it's right there, it says Abdul for Senate dot Com.
Speaker 2: You call yourself Abdul because you didn't think the voters
Speaker 2: were capable of pronouncing adul Rahman. Oh, I can say it,
Speaker 2: I guess I can say things about you now, tough guy. Look,
Speaker 2: I'm not the strongest, I'm not the biggest, not the fastest.
Speaker 2: I accept this about me. I'll say anything I want
Speaker 2: about you anytime I want to say it about you.
Speaker 2: And there is no fear that I have that you're
Speaker 2: going to get angry with me. Get angry. Can't help that.
Speaker 2: I don't think you should people say things about me
Speaker 2: all the time. Move on with your day. I know
Speaker 2: what it's like to get angry, and I know what
Speaker 2: it's like to act inappropriately.
Speaker 3: And I didn't mine on CA.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even cable news, it was public access nonsense.
Speaker 2: Learned a lot from those days. I would not have
Speaker 2: been a good candidate in those days, nor would I
Speaker 2: have been a good radio host in those days. You learn,
Speaker 2: you grow, you get smarter, you stop being dumb. But
Speaker 2: you don't play the tough guy. There's one thing that
Speaker 2: I have learned is that you don't play the tough guy.
Speaker 2: The tough thing it's never tough. It's never, ever ever
Speaker 2: tough comes across as weird and it's performative. Honestly, you
Speaker 2: could might not just be a finance bro and put
Speaker 2: on a vest. What are you doing. I know what
Speaker 2: it is like to do the wrong thing. You shouldn't
Speaker 2: do the wrong thing. But if you think we can't
Speaker 2: talk about you and your nonsense policies, and you're lying,
Speaker 2: as I see it, to the people all around you.
Speaker 2: If you can't say my name, keep it out of
Speaker 2: your mouth. Stop.
Speaker 3: We're gonna discuss you and your policies.
Speaker 2: And oh the one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars you
Speaker 2: took from CARE, the Council from American Islamic Relations a
Speaker 2: front group as described for the Muslim Brotherhood, a terrorist
Speaker 2: organization deemed the terrorist organization is CARE by the UAE.
Speaker 2: Buy Florida, buy Texas, and let's start there, a do Rahan.
Speaker 2: Taking money from CARE is worse than taking money from APAK.
Speaker 2: What I just needed that to soak right, just needed
Speaker 2: that to hang out there in the ether for a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 3: Let me say it again, for the people in the
Speaker 3: cheap seats.
Speaker 2: If you take money from Care, that is far more
Speaker 2: problematic than if you take money from APAK. People who
Speaker 2: take Care money can't be elected to office. People who
Speaker 2: take Care money are connected to some of the worst
Speaker 2: bigotries and atrocities. Ever, how about just the subjugation of
Speaker 2: women within their own culture. Because I'm watching right now.
Speaker 2: There is.
Speaker 3: Abdu Rahmann. He has guy, he's.
Speaker 2: Got his collar open, he's got a button unbuttoned, and
Speaker 2: it's wide open, and there's his face for everybody to see.
Speaker 2: And then to the left is a Muslim woman who
Speaker 2: has to wear a full head covering and long sleeves
Speaker 2: and everything else.
Speaker 3: He's find and open. She's not. Oh, Tony, you can't
Speaker 3: talk about culture, you bet?
Speaker 2: I can. You know why I can pronounce his name?
Speaker 2: If we want to do this, We're gonna do all
Speaker 2: of this, guys, and I think we should. So I
Speaker 2: start where I start taking money from Care a front group,
Speaker 2: as described as reported, taking money from Care is far
Speaker 2: more disqualifying. Nope, say it differently, Tony, taking money from
Speaker 2: Care is disqualifying. Taking money from APAC you cannot like,
Speaker 2: but it's certainly not disqualifying. Care is worse. If a
Speaker 2: pack is bad, care is worse. This is my take.
Speaker 2: A pack is Americans care. I'm not so sure neither
Speaker 2: are you, not that you cared at all? And Care
Speaker 2: is going to front a group, a terrorist group as
Speaker 2: described that thinks that that woman should live undercover.
Speaker 3: Quite literally. But this will get us.
Speaker 2: Into the common of Islam as a political system, not
Speaker 2: a religion, and that's going to be a whole nother subject.
Speaker 2: Although it is a political system and not a religion.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to apologize for saying. So see what
Speaker 2: happens when you do the tough guy thing. See now,
Speaker 2: you're not talking about policy, We're talking about the kind
Speaker 2: of person you are. And the kind of person you
Speaker 2: are is not the kind of person who has a
Speaker 2: temperament who can be an elected office. Just not. This
Speaker 2: is the start of a very long conversation that we're
Speaker 2: going to be having through November.
Speaker 3: Keep it here. This is Tony Katz.
Speaker 2: Today. I was looking at the markets which are down
Speaker 2: right now, and then I read that Ford.
Speaker 3: Has Ford not learned a lesson or does see an opportunity.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Ford Motor Company, Tony Katz, Tony Katz
Speaker 2: today guys. Great to be with you live streaming on
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Speaker 2: Ford did the f one fifty Lightning. Now, I have
Speaker 2: driven the lightning many times over. I used to work
Speaker 2: with a local car dealership and they would provide a
Speaker 2: vehicle and it was the Lightning, which is the electric
Speaker 2: f one fifty.
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, it's outstanding.
Speaker 2: The speed is nuts, the comfort is great, It's outstanding.
Speaker 2: I loved it, loved it. Tried to buy one. Yes,
Speaker 2: I tried to buy an electric because I work from
Speaker 2: home and stuff and so you know, I have studio
Speaker 2: things and everything else, and so it seemed to work.
Speaker 2: The price they wanted was insane. No one's buying them.
Speaker 2: The price they wanted was surreal. Then you read that
Speaker 2: Ford is taking a look at another EV platform, which
Speaker 2: they call you EV Universal Electric Vehicle. It's a new
Speaker 2: platform and they are coming out with the Ford Fathom
Speaker 2: and the Ford Fathom is going to have a starting
Speaker 2: price of twenty nine and forty five dollars. It's going
Speaker 2: to be a pickup thirty thousand dollars electric pickups. They're
Speaker 2: a market for this.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Pre Orders for a five passenger truck will begin in
Speaker 2: early twenty twenty seven. It'll deliver summer or fall in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven, and there's no images of what the
Speaker 2: truck looks like yet.
Speaker 3: They're doubling down on evs.
Speaker 2: I have questions. This is Tony kat.
Speaker 1: Today Live from vall Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America.
Speaker 1: It's Tony Cats Today. You can't deny that Tucker Carlson
Speaker 1: knows how.
Speaker 2: To make news.
Speaker 3: He does.
Speaker 2: He really and truly does know how to The one
Speaker 2: thing that we had discussed repeatedly when Tucker Carlson was
Speaker 2: at Fox was that a lot of people can comment
Speaker 2: on news, making news very very different, starting a conversation
Speaker 2: about an idea, very very very different. Did I say hello,
Speaker 2: Tony Kats, Tony Kats Today live streaming on YouTube and
Speaker 2: rumble Tony Kats on the Twitter, ex Tony Kats, Facebook,
Speaker 2: Tony Kats Radio.
Speaker 3: That's not easy to do and he was able to
Speaker 3: do that, and it was quite impressive.
Speaker 2: Glenn Beck was able to do that, quite impressive. Both
Speaker 2: have gone in different directions now Glenn Beck has been
Speaker 2: able to reinvent himself a couple of times. It's an
Speaker 2: incredible story. Really is Tucker after leaving Fox rightly or
Speaker 2: wrongly fired? I think debated? But he went on his
Speaker 2: own and started this thing. He started doing the interviews
Speaker 2: and the videos on Twitter on X and people like, look,
Speaker 2: see you don't need Fox because they were mad at Fox,
Speaker 2: mad as can be for letting him go. And I
Speaker 2: understood that. I thought it wasn't the right move. And
Speaker 2: Tucker was doing his videos and he looked at the
Speaker 2: millions of views like this, this is unbelievable. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: And then Tucker went to Russia and people said, oh, sure,
Speaker 2: he's going to glorify Putin.
Speaker 3: I said, wait a second.
Speaker 2: You you have a chance to interview of Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 2: You take the chance, you go in your interview of
Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin. I had no issue with him doing that.
Speaker 2: I had no issue with the interview. I like parts,
Speaker 2: didn't like parts. Fine, letting him talk too much. He's
Speaker 2: trying to as Putin is doing trying to reinvent history
Speaker 2: as the reasons why he actually the Russians owned this
Speaker 2: land and that land or the Ukraine, et cetera. That
Speaker 2: part didn't bother me. It was kind of the typical
Speaker 2: stuff I would expect from Putin.
Speaker 3: What got to me.
Speaker 2: Was Tucker going to a Russian supermarket which we would
Speaker 2: just call market because there's no way it was super
Speaker 2: and saying, look how clean this is. Isn't this great?
Speaker 2: And look at these prices. These prices are incredible. At
Speaker 2: that moment, the term useful idiot just punches you in
Speaker 2: the face. Oh it slapshit both ways with the hand
Speaker 2: to the front.
Speaker 3: And to the back.
Speaker 2: It's a Russian supermarket that they sent you. This is good.
Speaker 2: They happened to send you to the one that actually
Speaker 2: had some food. No, things are not great with the
Speaker 2: Russian economy.
Speaker 3: They're better.
Speaker 2: You're gonna now start saying, wow, the system here is
Speaker 2: really terrific.
Speaker 3: What's wrong with you? What next?
Speaker 2: Bringing back Walter Duranty to tell me there's no famine
Speaker 2: in Ukraine?
Speaker 3: Stop it?
Speaker 2: What are you doing? You could watch him doing it,
Speaker 2: and all I could think of my head is slow motion, Oh,
Speaker 2: come bu But no Once he did that, he was he.
Speaker 3: Was gone, and he has proven himself gone ever since.
Speaker 2: And now he is in the place where never mind
Speaker 2: his anti Israel zealotry, but rather he's in the place
Speaker 2: of Trump lied to you, Duntaud, Trump betrayed you.
Speaker 3: Maga is dead.
Speaker 2: And it is up to me, Tucker Carlson, to make
Speaker 2: things right, which he followed it up with that was
Speaker 2: my laugh impression. Sometimes it's better. That wasn't my best one.
Speaker 3: It's gotta be a little deeper, a little more rich.
Speaker 3: It's more like that. It's more.
Speaker 2: And Tucker put out a photo last week. It was
Speaker 2: him and this guy Joe Kent. If you remember the
Speaker 2: story of Joe Kenton. Oh what a whistleblower, not a
Speaker 2: not a whistleblower. And it's Congressman Thomas Massey, who to
Speaker 2: me is great disappointment. And it's former Representative Marjorie Taylor Green,
Speaker 2: who I said at then and I say it now.
Speaker 2: Marjorie Taylor Green was somebody who was going to vote
Speaker 2: the way I wanted her to vote a few times,
Speaker 2: and that's what I was gonna to deal with. No
Speaker 2: part of me wants anything to do with Marjorie Taylor Green.
Speaker 2: I'm still not a space lavers a space lasers. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm not past the space lasers. That was just weird.
Speaker 2: Everything about her, everything about.
Speaker 3: Her just no, thanks, none.
Speaker 2: And I still say that if you're connected to Marjorie
Speaker 2: Taylor Green and you want to do something and she's
Speaker 2: the person you're doing with with, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: it matters.
Speaker 3: It matters. Sometimes the bedfellow matters.
Speaker 2: This goes back to something that Abdul Sad said when
Speaker 2: he was asked about who he campaigns with and the
Speaker 2: kind of people like the absolute free Cassan Piker, and
Speaker 2: he was asked this question, do.
Speaker 3: You intend to continue to campaign with a Sunpiker.
Speaker 4: I'm focused on campaigning in this state, all over the state.
Speaker 2: I'm not as focused on who I'm campaigning with. I'm
Speaker 2: focused on who I'm campaigning for, which is you're not
Speaker 2: focusing on who you're campaigning with. Okay, go campaigning with
Speaker 2: David Duke and let me know how it goes. I'll wait,
Speaker 2: I'll just I'll wait right here and let's see how
Speaker 2: it goes. No, no, you're not concerned with who you're
Speaker 2: campaigning with. What Republican could ever get away with that line,
Speaker 2: you're not concerned about who you're campaigning with, a guy
Speaker 2: who says he hates the country and we deserve nine
Speaker 2: to eleven. If I went campaigning with Greg Baveno, who
Speaker 2: ran a border patrol, who was doing the ice work
Speaker 2: in Minneapolis, I'd get vilified four ways from Sunday. But
Speaker 2: you can campaign with this commed, loving hassan piker, this
Speaker 2: pseudo tough guy, and it's fun. Who else can you
Speaker 2: campaign with?
Speaker 6: Then?
Speaker 2: If it doesn't matter you're campaigning with, I just want.
Speaker 3: To know how the new rules work.
Speaker 2: You're associated with Marjorie Taylor Green, and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm out, it's unserious. But Tucker has unveiled a tent
Speaker 2: point manifesto, and it's this conversation of whether or not
Speaker 2: he's actually thinking of a third party run.
Speaker 3: I have, and you've heard me discuss this.
Speaker 2: If you've been with the show for any length of time,
Speaker 2: I am fine with third parties. I'm very okay with
Speaker 2: third parties. You want to create a third party, go ahead.
Speaker 2: You want to run in a third party, you go
Speaker 2: right ahead. You have the right to do what you will.
Speaker 2: You're an American citizen, and if you think that there
Speaker 2: is a need for a new party that isn't quite
Speaker 2: sharing what it is that you want, right, the parties
Speaker 2: aren't sharing what you want, so you want to create
Speaker 2: something new. No one should be able to stop. That's nutty.
Speaker 2: I don't even believe in the idea of throwing away
Speaker 2: your vote. It is yours. I think there are sometimes
Speaker 2: bad votes. I think sometimes people are voting like morons,
Speaker 2: but it's your vote, go ahead. But outcomes this ten
Speaker 2: point manifesto, So it makes people wonder whether or not
Speaker 2: he's going to be creating his own political party. And
Speaker 2: I'm going through what his ten points are. Now, this
Speaker 2: is how Axios put it together. Right, His ten point
Speaker 2: plan one is fair. The same rules should apply to
Speaker 2: president's federal agents and elites such as Jeffrey Epstein whose
Speaker 2: impunity Wait, I know, I don't know that's right. Fair,
Speaker 2: that's what he said that fair. I've got this right. Well,
Speaker 2: I would not disagree with this, and I think this
Speaker 2: is important for us to go through it because what
Speaker 2: we will find is that I don't think on the
Speaker 2: baseline stuff Tucker and I would disagree on the idea
Speaker 2: of fairness and of the idea of the United States
Speaker 2: being what he might describe as.
Speaker 3: As sovereign.
Speaker 2: Right. We are in charge of us, We decide us
Speaker 2: and our future. Where we would wholeheartedly disagree aggressively disagree
Speaker 2: is to the place where he thinks that the United
Speaker 2: States is pushed into action by Israel, for example, Iran.
Speaker 2: If anything has shown us that that's not true, it
Speaker 2: is the last four months.
Speaker 3: It is silly talk.
Speaker 2: It's as silly as having Daryl Cooper on your show
Speaker 2: and thinking you're getting a history lesson. It is false,
Speaker 2: and there a divide cannot be overcome. Well, we may
Speaker 2: agree that the last thing in the world we should
Speaker 2: want on any stretch is the United States being subservient
Speaker 2: to another nation. And not only will I agree to that,
Speaker 2: I will say it time and again and again and again.
Speaker 2: The idea that the United States is controlled by Israel
Speaker 2: is the kind of thing that is said by Ilhano
Speaker 2: Mar and Rashida Talib, and those Jew hating bigots are
Speaker 2: not people should emulate.
Speaker 3: He then goes into the next which is productive.
Speaker 2: Americas should rebuild farming and manufacturing and craftsmanship while rejecting
Speaker 2: an economy dominated by finance, real estate speculations, surveillance systems
Speaker 2: and weapons.
Speaker 3: Now, now we're getting into.
Speaker 2: A very unique divide because I have supported the bringing
Speaker 2: back of manufacturing for as long as I've been political,
Speaker 2: and I can remember being at events like south By Southwest.
Speaker 2: I was doing some tech work at the time and
Speaker 2: being around these tech people, and I would talk about
Speaker 2: the need for manufacturing. I'd get laughed at nobody needs
Speaker 2: to build chairs in the United States. Well they were wrong.
Speaker 2: Of course, we need to build chairs in the United States.
Speaker 2: You need jobs for all people, and you need to
Speaker 2: be able to have a manufacturing base to be able
Speaker 2: to handle your business when the world decides it's not
Speaker 2: interested in your business.
Speaker 3: But there's also nothing wrong with finance.
Speaker 2: Now, this gets into a place where I believe he
Speaker 2: starts referring to loans and interest as usury. Well it's not.
Speaker 2: It's how capital gets dispersed and how growth takes place.
Speaker 3: And to call.
Speaker 2: Interest rates usury is to buy into an Islamist mindset.
Speaker 3: No, thank you.
Speaker 2: He can be right on something and wrong on something
Speaker 2: else that I'm willing to discuss it. As such, he
Speaker 2: talks about beauty that urban planners have uglified American cities,
Speaker 2: portrayed in brutalist architecture and a whole bunch of other things. Well,
Speaker 2: I've talked about this for forever. Art matters, cleaning up
Speaker 2: the statues in DC matters, ending the blight, changes the mind.
Speaker 2: And yes, for years, the so called artists have been
Speaker 2: pushing nihilism nothingness as opposed to grandeur and greatness and
Speaker 2: things that thought provoke. Instead, it has turned into silly,
Speaker 2: childlike art projects, people peeing on a crucifix or taping
Speaker 2: a banana to a wall and saying twelve million dollars please.
Speaker 3: So this is just some of it. It's funny Tucker
Speaker 3: here has not said anything.
Speaker 2: That is wild. He just then tries to couch it
Speaker 2: in something that is wild. I mean, that's you go
Speaker 2: through this and you'd be like, yes, this, but know
Speaker 2: that it's that that's the problem. It's the that that
Speaker 2: doesn't even make the free society. And if Tucker now
Speaker 2: wants to start a conversation about these ideas great, is
Speaker 2: he prepared to defend them. Is he prepared to recognize
Speaker 2: when he is wrong? Because I am more than prepared
Speaker 2: to show him that he is wrong to discuss these
Speaker 2: things out that the things he says that are detrimental
Speaker 2: for American society are not that it is not an
Speaker 2: all or nothing proposition in the majority of cases, but
Speaker 2: rather in the very few cases.
Speaker 3: And where in his ten points.
Speaker 2: Does he engage the idea that America is not land,
Speaker 2: it is the ideal, and that Jade Vance is wrong.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we're all gonna be talking about this in
Speaker 2: the weeks I had. I'm looking forward to it. I'm
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz. Today President Trump
Speaker 2: talking about the economy and he sends himself out to
Speaker 2: Las Vegas to do it. He goes to Las Vegas
Speaker 2: and he says, you guys, you're all focused on affordability.
Speaker 2: What are you doing? They told you to be focused
Speaker 2: on affordability.
Speaker 3: This economy, it's it's doing terrific.
Speaker 8: Americans are working in the United States right now that
Speaker 8: at any point in the history of our country.
Speaker 3: I saw poles to television.
Speaker 8: I say, Donald Trump, polls on the economy aren't good.
Speaker 3: The economy is the greatest economy we've ever had by far.
Speaker 3: The economy aren't good. Fake poles just like fake right.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna get more into this a little bit later.
Speaker 2: I like the President going out there to talk about successes.
Speaker 2: Do not diminish what people are experiencing when it comes
Speaker 2: to costs. Don't don't do that. That is a mistake.
Speaker 2: You don't lose sight of the fact that people are
Speaker 2: paying more for a whole host of things, and some
Speaker 2: prices absolutely have come down. Just there's a way to
Speaker 2: do this that you come out looking good because you're
Speaker 2: having an honest, clear conversation, and you should do that.
Speaker 2: Don't dismiss what people are going through. Mean, while Iranian
Speaker 2: media says US and Israeli ships are blocked in or
Speaker 2: moves straight under the draft plan, US and Israeli ships
Speaker 2: won't be able to transit the straight up her moves
Speaker 2: under the new deal. Oh okay, can I can I
Speaker 2: say again? I don't believe anything, absolutely none of it.
Speaker 2: There are right now so many stories. This is Hey,
Speaker 2: how how do I get my column in so I
Speaker 2: can still get.
Speaker 3: Paid this week? That's what a lot of this is
Speaker 3: coming out.
Speaker 2: As US ships can't go through the straight We're gonna
Speaker 2: sign that deal.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm already on record with where I believe we
Speaker 2: have to be and this regime being ended. The President
Speaker 2: is not with me on this, So let's see where
Speaker 2: he goes. Let's see where he goes.
Speaker 4: But this story, yeah.
Speaker 2: Don't believe it. I don't. I'm Tony Katz.
Speaker 3: Three more things, Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today.
Speaker 2: It's always a pleasure to be here, guys, thanks for
Speaker 2: being a part of the show.
Speaker 3: Live streaming YouTube Rumble.
Speaker 2: Look for Tony Katz Twitter, which is known as x
Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Facebook, Tony Kats Radio. Find everything at.
Speaker 3: Tony kats dot com. What are three more things?
Speaker 2: Three more things are stories that should be front page news,
Speaker 2: but because of everything on the front pages, it does
Speaker 2: not become from page news. And I want to make
Speaker 2: sure that I bring that to you. I've got more
Speaker 2: than three. I'm gonna move through this stuff kind of quickly. First,
Speaker 2: Anthony Fauci found a contempt for his pleading the fifth
Speaker 2: and one hundred and eleven times did he have the
Speaker 2: right to do so?
Speaker 3: That's that's number one.
Speaker 2: He was founding contempt, and of course this was done
Speaker 2: on shamefully ideological lines. Democrats don't seem to care that
Speaker 2: he lied, then, just don't Why don't you care? You might?
Speaker 2: You have to lud and glorify him because Trump bad.
Speaker 2: It's it's it is embarrassing, is what it is. Also
Speaker 2: word that the Senate Judiciary Committee now has access to
Speaker 2: his cell phone and phone records, so we may learn more.
Speaker 2: Then there is Alberta, Canada. Alberta, Canada. The premiere of
Speaker 2: Alberta's a woman by the name of Danielle Smith who
Speaker 2: has reported a little uh, a little rugged, a little
Speaker 2: a little willing to try things. She has set things
Speaker 2: in motion for a referendum in October that's going to
Speaker 2: ask the province whether or not they should stay in Canada.
Speaker 2: Mister President, I may have found the actual fifty first state,
Speaker 2: so as I understand the process and the reporting from
Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal, they have to have a referendum,
Speaker 2: and if they say we should be talking about removing
Speaker 2: ourselves from Canada, that starts the process on a second referendum,
Speaker 2: which is the binding referendum on whether or not they
Speaker 2: want to leave for good. Alberta has something to its
Speaker 2: advantage that the other regions don't.
Speaker 3: They've got oil.
Speaker 2: And they've got a good amount of it, and Soda
Speaker 2: looks to Alberta in the oil and gas revenue as
Speaker 2: hugely important for their economic future. So this is for
Speaker 2: them very very very concerning.
Speaker 3: So Danielle Smith has said.
Speaker 2: And I'm quoting here, I've watched the separatist movement since
Speaker 2: I got involved in politics back in the nineties, and
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever seen the support as high
Speaker 2: as it was after the Liberals got elected last year.
Speaker 2: That's Mark Carney who took over for Justin Trudeau. You
Speaker 2: had a chance for Pierre Poliev and the Canadian said nope,
Speaker 2: mainly because Trump put on the tariffs, and the anger
Speaker 2: was so great with Trump that they said, We're going
Speaker 2: to stick it to everybody by keeping with the Liberals,
Speaker 2: which is a very weird thing to do to yourself,
Speaker 2: but they did it. Seven hundred thousand Albertans have signed
Speaker 2: petitions either for leaving or staying. Seven hundred thousand out
Speaker 2: of five million, so a number approaching twenty percent. And
Speaker 2: She's like, we need to have ourselves a question, a
Speaker 2: conversation about this. I'm fascinated by it. Could Alberta survive
Speaker 2: on its own? I don't know enough about their politics
Speaker 2: outside of the gas a nation of five million, I
Speaker 2: don't know how that would actually work. I do know
Speaker 2: that somebody in the chat room said, we can trade
Speaker 2: Canada Alberta for California. I'm mostly in I think we
Speaker 2: should just trade them Alberta for Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 3: That's a deal.
Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom and Scott Wiener, Gavin Newsom, Scott Wiener and
Speaker 2: Mark Ruffalo, they can all they can, just they can
Speaker 2: have all of them instant citizenship. Just please please take them.
Speaker 2: Then there is what we knew to be true about
Speaker 2: the election in Michigan. It's bad news for the Democrats
Speaker 2: in a general. No, never mind, you didn't want Abdul
Speaker 2: say Ed to win. Never Mind you want the Republican
Speaker 2: to win. Maybe you wanted Haley Stevens, whatever the case
Speaker 2: may be. Maybe you want to do I'll say it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: You could.
Speaker 2: You'd be wrong, but you could. What that vote did.
Speaker 2: Remember the polling had sa ed in those in that
Speaker 2: last week up by double digits. He was gonna win
Speaker 2: by thirteen points, sixteen points. He won by a point
Speaker 2: one percentage point. And that means you now have half
Speaker 2: the Democrat party that voted. By the way, neither candidate
Speaker 2: got more than fifty percent. They were both under fifty percent.
Speaker 2: What are the half that vote for Haley Stevens. Are
Speaker 2: they going to hold their nose and vote for abdul
Speaker 2: said or are they going to say I'm not going
Speaker 2: to vote at all? Are they going to vote for
Speaker 2: the Republican Mike.
Speaker 3: Rogers, we brought this up the other day.
Speaker 2: It's a problem for Democrats because they don't have anything
Speaker 2: that's unifying. But Harry Enton over there at CNN showing
Speaker 2: some other numbers that are of grave concern to the left.
Speaker 9: In your Navy Blue, you've got Haley Stevens, and your
Speaker 9: Columbia Blue, you've got Abdul Osayed. And what you see
Speaker 9: here is you see that Haley Stevens did particularly well
Speaker 9: in this corridor.
Speaker 3: And what's in this corridor.
Speaker 9: Well, there are a lot of working class voters and
Speaker 9: a lot of African American voters. Abdul Asaya did very
Speaker 9: poorly amongst these groups in the primary.
Speaker 3: It's going to be.
Speaker 9: Very interesting to see whether or not he can bring
Speaker 9: them into the tent come the general election.
Speaker 3: Bring those swing voters with.
Speaker 9: Them, because where abdul Asaya did well, to be honest
Speaker 9: with you, we're really just college towns. That's where he
Speaker 9: really ran up the score. This is ann Arbor. An
Speaker 9: arbor's in this county, and arbor, of course, is the
Speaker 9: University of Michigan. We zone out a little bit. Another
Speaker 9: place he did particularly well was lancing. Again, we're talking
Speaker 9: twenty plus point margins.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 3: First things first, never go blue.
Speaker 2: Said it, not apologizing for anything.
Speaker 3: Oh, such a shame, University of Michigan.
Speaker 2: There are two stories here that we can now utilize. First,
Speaker 2: the so called educated always vote for the most vicious.
Speaker 3: They're not being educated, they're being indoctrinated.
Speaker 2: But the other one where Arianson started was a conversation
Speaker 2: we had here.
Speaker 3: Well over a week ago.
Speaker 2: Black voters, black Democrats. The Democrat Party has left you
Speaker 2: for dead, and they will take for granted that you're
Speaker 2: going to vote for them. They are so busy trying
Speaker 2: to get all the Muslim voters to love them. They
Speaker 2: have forgotten you. You don't count, Your interests don't count.
Speaker 2: The Islamists have decided that they can run on the
Speaker 2: whole grievance factor. Oh we're being oppressed, Oh we're being attacked.
Speaker 2: Oh we're being abused, while they are the abusers. And
Speaker 2: they do this by not necessarily pushing what their Islamist
Speaker 2: desires are, which is for you black Democrats not to
Speaker 2: be able to be Christians. I mean, that's what the
Speaker 2: Islamist does. They aligned with the Communists who have now
Speaker 2: taken over the party. That's what we call the Red
Speaker 2: Green Alliance. And your issues don't matter at all. You
Speaker 2: will never matter. You fought for civil rights, you have
Speaker 2: a grievance, not all some with the country. You have
Speaker 2: a history in the United States, you have a story
Speaker 2: of the United States. You have generations living in the
Speaker 2: United States. And what they have said is you don't
Speaker 2: count your history, your struggles.
Speaker 3: Nope, you got pushed to the side.
Speaker 2: You think they're gonna pay attention to any issue you have,
Speaker 2: you are nuts. Al Sharpton will talk about it because
Speaker 2: he already made his money. But your kids are gonna
Speaker 2: get hosed. It's time to become Republicans. It's always been
Speaker 2: your party anyway. Everything the Democrats have ever told you
Speaker 2: is a lie. You know it's a lie. They're gonna
Speaker 2: do this for you, They're gonna do that for you.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be programs this, and programs that. Now, truly,
Speaker 2: what they were doing was not discussing black voters. What
Speaker 2: they were saying is we have to provide this to
Speaker 2: this group and that to that group. And they were
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: They they ain't that bright, they're not they're not, so
Speaker 2: you might have to help them with that it's it's
Speaker 2: I agree, it's nonsense that you'd have to help them
Speaker 2: with that. I'm saying right now. Invite me to your church.
Speaker 2: I will be there. I will be there, I will
Speaker 2: gladly speak. Would love to on this topic joyfully. It'd
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, and now the data's coming out
Speaker 2: could not be more factual. Guys, black voters now, I
Speaker 2: wonder if we want to say black liberal voters, because
Speaker 2: I always believe it is about the liberalism and not
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Speaker 3: It's but the ideological.
Speaker 2: But they're starting to understand that they're getting screwed, that
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Speaker 2: grander sense or in a broader sense, black voters have
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Speaker 3: It's not.
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Speaker 3: Keep it here. This is Tony Kats today.
Speaker 2: You may not have seen it, but President Trump when
Speaker 2: he was in Nevada speaking about the economy, he invited
Speaker 2: this couple on stage to say a few words. And
Speaker 2: this woman was going to speak. It was a no
Speaker 2: tax on tips and economic things. And she's got her husband,
Speaker 2: she's gotten two kids. Tony Kats Tony Kats today. So
Speaker 2: she is holding the infant, he is holding the toddler.
Speaker 2: She is going to take the podium and speak. She's nervous.
Speaker 2: She gives the infant to the husband. The husband puts
Speaker 2: a toddler on the ground. Toddler can walk and hold
Speaker 2: his hand, right, can't have both kids in each hand.
Speaker 2: While this is happening, the President gives her the podium
Speaker 2: and the kid.
Speaker 3: The toddler wants to be next to mom.
Speaker 7: Stand here before you and speak.
Speaker 2: The todther then starts to run off towards the end
Speaker 2: of the stage. Trump, like Grandpa, would chase the grandkid
Speaker 2: for getting too close to the egg. You're getting mere
Speaker 2: a sharp knife, chases after the kid to make sure
Speaker 2: he doesn't run.
Speaker 3: He's like, oh, you gotta go get.
Speaker 2: Him off like a light, and then yells to the crowd,
Speaker 2: I didn't want him to fall off the stage like Biden.
Speaker 2: It is an adorable moment. It is it is full grandpa,
Speaker 2: it is. He's done that before. Everybody who has young
Speaker 2: kids has done that before.
Speaker 3: They've all done it before.
Speaker 2: My point of this is they tell us that Donald
Speaker 2: Trump is this doddering old man with dementia. You want me,
Speaker 2: you want me to show you that again. You want
Speaker 2: me to show you that again. Seems like he's got
Speaker 2: some pretty good reflexes. It seems that he's fully aware
Speaker 2: of keeping an eye on the kid. Turned around, saw
Speaker 2: the kid. He's like, oh, let me go get him everything.
Speaker 2: They they would never talk about Biden, but the Holso
Speaker 2: never talked about this. They just say the things they
Speaker 2: say because they say them, not that has any connection
Speaker 2: to reality.
Speaker 3: More show is coming up. I'm glad you guys are here.
Speaker 3: This is Tony Kats today.
Speaker 1: Why from vall Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's
Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.
Speaker 2: So Anthony Fauci is held in contempt of Congress Good.
Speaker 2: This is not about the pardon, as Senator Rand Paul explained,
Speaker 2: This is about what he did after the pardon. This
Speaker 2: is about his pleading the Fifth one hundred and eleven
Speaker 2: times to questions that may or may not be Fifth worthy,
Speaker 2: and whether or not he himself Anthony Fauci made it
Speaker 2: impossible to plead the fifth because he started by going
Speaker 2: after Senator Paul before pleading it. Tony Katz Tony Katz today, guys,
Speaker 2: an absolute pleasure to be here, to be with you.
Speaker 2: Find everything I do over at Tony katz dot com.
Speaker 2: Everybody has got their take, everybody's got their philosophy. And
Speaker 2: of course, when it comes to this hearing this idea
Speaker 2: of contempt, what you have is politics. Democrats saying, how
Speaker 2: dare you that man saved us? Versus Republican saying we
Speaker 2: have his diaries that were on his computer, and my gosh,
Speaker 2: he's showing that he lied every single day. Every day.
Speaker 2: Origins gain a function, masks social distancing.
Speaker 3: The six feet thing was made up.
Speaker 2: It was lie after lie after lie, all the while
Speaker 2: loving the adulation and the glory. Once you want to
Speaker 2: have your picture taken. You're not really concerned about what
Speaker 2: it takes to get your picture taken. You'll do anything,
Speaker 2: and he did, including recognizing that the efficacy of vaccines
Speaker 2: wasn't going to stop the spread.
Speaker 3: But he didn't want to say that so much.
Speaker 2: Publicly or things like that publicly, because he didn't want
Speaker 2: to stop people from getting the vaccine. So therefore, you
Speaker 2: stopped sharing, or prevented the sharing, or hid information from
Speaker 2: the American people so they can make an informed decision. Instead,
Speaker 2: you scared an entire generation. I feel awful, not for
Speaker 2: grownups who got vaccinated. I don't actually, I think the
Speaker 2: vast majority of Americans are totally fine and will be
Speaker 2: totally fine. But kids. We didn't know much about this
Speaker 2: this vaccine, and we vaccinated kids when it was understood
Speaker 2: early on. The kids were not dying from COVID. In
Speaker 2: my gosh, even the amount of people who actually died
Speaker 2: from COVID was a small number. There were comorbidities that abounded.
Speaker 2: Kids weren't dying. If kids had been d I said
Speaker 2: this at the time, we may not have known each other.
Speaker 2: Then if kids had been dying from COVID, parents would
Speaker 2: have been shooting other parents in the street to get
Speaker 2: their kid vaccinated first. You wouldn't have done that for
Speaker 2: your kid. You wouldn't have done anything, of course you
Speaker 2: would have. They would have been out of their minds
Speaker 2: searching for vaccines, lining their kids up to get the vaccines.
Speaker 2: Kids weren't dying. Kids were fine, not just in the main,
Speaker 2: in the vast majority, if not the near totality of cases.
Speaker 2: That's not to say that there weren't one or two,
Speaker 2: or a group or a handful that got sick. Some
Speaker 2: kids died, of course, they had other issues, but not
Speaker 2: like adults, not like seniors. No, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: Look at the numbers, look at the data. Minuscule, and
Speaker 2: you don't lock down a generation of kids and tell
Speaker 2: them they can't see their friends and they have to
Speaker 2: wear a mask and everything else from minuscule. That's madness,
Speaker 2: that's control. And we properly, properly hate Fauci and hate
Speaker 2: those who are in government for it. We hate Burks,
Speaker 2: we hate the CDC, We hate those who made it political.
Speaker 2: We hate those who were desperate to keep lockdowns. We
Speaker 2: hate Randy Weingart.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 2: Hate is a strong word, but it is the right one.
Speaker 2: We hate these people for what they did to our
Speaker 2: kids and what they did to society, and those people
Speaker 2: who truly believed that you're allowed to stop the society
Speaker 2: from thriving. The Constitution goes on pause because there's an
Speaker 2: epidemic or a pandemic, and a doctor said, so I
Speaker 2: didn't vote for that doctor. Screw them, And the Constitution
Speaker 2: remains no matter what. And I really do hope, like
Speaker 2: you might really hope that when one of these things
Speaker 2: comes around again, because it will, we remember this and
Speaker 2: we don't engage lockdowns and we push back aggressively, and
Speaker 2: that includes cops. You don't lock people down. You're wrong.
Speaker 2: You got to look at the government leadership and say
Speaker 2: you're wrong. We won't do this, we won't act like this,
Speaker 2: and we have to be able to fight back against that. Oh,
Speaker 2: I absolutely, I say that without an ounce of hesitation,
Speaker 2: and I think you do as well. I certainly hope
Speaker 2: you do as well. You want us to trust science.
Speaker 2: Science has to be open and honest and transparent and clear.
Speaker 2: Here's what it says, Here's what it doesn't say. Here's
Speaker 2: what we think it means. You got to make the
Speaker 2: call for you force. Force is not science Fauci lied,
Speaker 2: so Fauci being held in contempt and at Senator Ran
Speaker 2: Paul leading the Senate Judiciary Committee in this conversation. In
Speaker 2: this vote, eight.
Speaker 7: Days ago, doctor Anthony Fauci sat before this committee in
Speaker 7: the witness chair under subpoena for conduct covered by the
Speaker 7: President Biden's full and unconditional pardon reaching back to twenty fourteen.
Speaker 7: Doctor Fauci faced no risk of federal prosecution. All he
Speaker 7: had to do is tell the truth more than one
Speaker 7: hundred times. Though he refused, The Chair ruled that doctor
Speaker 7: Fauci's assertion of the Fifth Amendment privilege was unsupported in
Speaker 7: light of the pardon and the testimony he offered in
Speaker 7: his opening statement. The Chair directed Anthony Fauci to answer.
Speaker 2: He refused.
Speaker 7: Again. That is what we were voting on today, not
Speaker 7: his opinions, not his policies, not anything he said from
Speaker 7: a podium six years ago. We were voting on whether
Speaker 7: or witness who has received the benefit of a sweeping
Speaker 7: federal pardon, can be ordered by this committee to answer
Speaker 7: questions and then defy that order without consequence. More than
Speaker 7: a million Americans died from COVID, many of them died
Speaker 7: alone workers were forced to choose between a mandate and
Speaker 7: a job they needed. Businesses closed and never reopened. Children
Speaker 7: lost years of school they will never get back. Americans
Speaker 7: lost the freedom to work, to worship, and to decide
Speaker 7: what went into their own bodies. Nothing we do today
Speaker 7: can undo those losses, but silence does not honor them either.
Speaker 7: This committee and the American people have a right to
Speaker 7: know why doctor Fauci's agency funded dangerous research at the
Speaker 7: Wuhan Institute of Virology, and what role he played in
Speaker 7: approving and overseeing it. Why he told his colleagues to
Speaker 7: delete emails, why he told them to delete emails and
Speaker 7: then delete the deleted file. What was he told in
Speaker 7: January twenty twenty, what was said on those calls, what
Speaker 7: his agency did with and for the intelligence community, And whether,
Speaker 7: knowing what he knows now, he still believes that the
Speaker 7: risks were worth taking. Documents tell only part of the story.
Speaker 7: Many of these questions can be answered only by doctor Fauci.
Speaker 2: I don't actually care if he thinks the risks were
Speaker 2: worth taking. Now that question doesn't move me. But you
Speaker 2: are funding the gain of function research in a Chinese
Speaker 2: virology lab. What's wrong with US, and that gain of function.
Speaker 2: Research is only utilized to figure out how you could
Speaker 2: I mean really, how you could create more harm. But
Speaker 2: you did lie about it. He did lie about the funding. Again,
Speaker 2: there is a reason to put him on trial.
Speaker 7: He answered, none of them.
Speaker 2: There will be another pandemic.
Speaker 7: The time to determine which legislative reforms are necessary to
Speaker 7: ensure that the mistakes of the past are not repeated.
Speaker 3: Is now, not later.
Speaker 7: This Committee passed the Bipartisan Risky Research Review Act to
Speaker 7: strengthen oversight of dangerous life sciences research.
Speaker 2: Funded by the federal government to.
Speaker 7: Address failures exposed by the COVID nineteen pandemic. But Congress
Speaker 7: cannot determine what additional reforms are necessary until it fully
Speaker 7: understands what remains unanswered. Holding a witness and contempt is
Speaker 7: a serious thing, and it should be rare. But the
Speaker 7: contempt power exists for precisely this circumstance. Oversight is not
Speaker 7: a courtesy this Committee extends, or a favor a former
Speaker 7: official grants us. It is a constitutional obligation, and when
Speaker 7: voluntary cooperation ends, Congress must be able to compel compliance
Speaker 7: with its lawful demands. That is Congress's compulsory instrument. A
Speaker 7: subpoena is not an invitation. A subpoena with no consequence
Speaker 7: is not a subpoena.
Speaker 3: It's a suggestion. Seeking the truth is not a witch hunt.
Speaker 7: Accountability is not vengeance. Accountability is what stands between the
Speaker 7: American people and a repeat of the mistakes and the
Speaker 7: very real consequences of the past.
Speaker 2: Well said, I have no problem with this. I can't
Speaker 2: imagine that others do, except of course they do, because
Speaker 2: why in the world should we want information, Why in
Speaker 2: the world should we want the facts when we can
Speaker 2: have just the radical concepts that somehow it's wrong to
Speaker 2: tell a lawyer who was not called as a witness
Speaker 2: that he can't give testimony. Remember that Fauci's lawyer wanted
Speaker 2: to argue with Rand Paul. Fauci's lawyer could speak to
Speaker 2: his client, give advice to his client, give thoughts to
Speaker 2: his client, but he wasn't there to testify. But Senator
Speaker 2: Richard Blumenthal, who lied about his Vietnam service, thinks that
Speaker 2: that was the worst thing that ever happened. Thank you,
Speaker 2: mister Senader Bluemendal.
Speaker 10: I moved to postpone consideration of this resolution and TOVID
Speaker 10: committee has an opportunity to hear from doctor Fauci's attorney,
Speaker 10: who was forcibly removed from the hearing last week. I
Speaker 10: should point out that doctor Fouchi had a well founded
Speaker 10: fear based on facts that he was in jeopardy of
Speaker 10: prosecution for perjury. In fact, the chairman and others on
Speaker 10: the committee have said the quiet part out loud. They've
Speaker 10: shouted it repeatedly. That their objective in that proceeding was,
Speaker 10: in fact to put doctor Fauci behind bars.
Speaker 2: If they shouted it out loud, it's very hard to
Speaker 2: say that that was the quiet part out loud because
Speaker 2: they shouted it.
Speaker 3: But let's let let's not you know, split hairs.
Speaker 10: Here represented by council who attempted to speak at this proceeding.
Speaker 10: Even during the darkest days of the McCarthy hearings, council
Speaker 10: were allowed to speak.
Speaker 2: So there are two guys sitting behind center. Bloomenthal aides.
Speaker 2: I don't know ifther his aids or not, but the
Speaker 2: minute he said McCarthy, one guy just looked up. It
Speaker 2: was like, is this happening? It's either that or he
Speaker 2: looked up and he said, did I leave the iron
Speaker 2: on it was one or the other.
Speaker 3: We're reverencing McCarthy.
Speaker 2: Now, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3: It would be one thing.
Speaker 2: If you said that Anthony Fauci shouldn't be allowed to
Speaker 2: have a lawyer, that would be nuts.
Speaker 3: I would oppose that wholeheartedly.
Speaker 2: But the idea of whether or not the lawyer could testify,
Speaker 2: are you, No, he was not a witness. He is
Speaker 2: the lawyer to Fauci, and he can therefore advise Fauci.
Speaker 2: He cannot in any way do anything else. And what
Speaker 2: Richard Blumenthal is doing here is saying but when I
Speaker 2: believe that's the uh, that's the official version. That's what
Speaker 2: he did, whining, bitching, kvetching the whole thing. Senator Gary Peters, Democrat, Michigan.
Speaker 2: He's the guy not running for reelection. They're that he's
Speaker 2: the guy who uh uh, the Islamist, the Islamo Marxist.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they're calling him these days.
Speaker 2: A duel al saied, a pseudo tough guy. Oh, oh,
Speaker 2: it's getting ridiculous. Are him and Hassan Piker the two
Speaker 2: biggest pansies who ever walked?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: I don't care how much as San Piker works out
Speaker 2: means nothing. Whimp can't handle anything, cannot handle a criticism nothing.
Speaker 2: He is what he is. I apologize for saying that
Speaker 2: I hate America. No one believes you can't no one,
Speaker 2: just like no one believes Abdul say ed what he's like.
Speaker 3: You know, I love the Jews.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right. By the way, that's not allowed in
Speaker 2: today Democratic Party. So you're going to get in trouble
Speaker 2: or you're just somebody who's lying for votes that we
Speaker 2: all see you. Either way, just whimp, but we'll get
Speaker 2: to that later. This was Senator Gary Peters considered.
Speaker 11: Until the Chairman provides all members of this committee with
Speaker 11: access to all documents, transcripts, and materials related to this investigation,
Speaker 11: which I have repeatedly requested since the beginning of this Congress,
Speaker 11: Senator and Committee rules are clear that all members of
Speaker 11: this committee have a right to access committee documents. The
Speaker 11: Chairman has publicly stated he has received over one million
Speaker 11: documents as part of this investigation and has only shared
Speaker 11: a small fraction with a minority despite repeated request over
Speaker 11: the past year and a half. That's why I urge
Speaker 11: my colleagues to vote for this and I just want
Speaker 11: to reply to some of the comments made by the
Speaker 11: chair that we just didn't want I want to look
Speaker 11: at this information. We have been asking for information for
Speaker 11: quite some period of time over the past eighteen months,
Speaker 11: and at every turn, whether it's the documents or trying
Speaker 11: to have the ability to question witnesses, we have been denied.
Speaker 11: Just in April of this year, your staff conducted a
Speaker 11: transcribed interview of Ralph Barrick without even notifying my staff
Speaker 11: about the interview. After you posted the transcript publicly, we
Speaker 11: asked for the unredacted version and the classified portion received
Speaker 11: absolutely no response. Refuse to let the minority participate in
Speaker 11: the transcribed interview that doctor Fauci agreed to do voluntarily
Speaker 11: to a common on one of my colleagues made, we
Speaker 11: could just do it and have a transcript in private.
Speaker 11: We were open to that. Doctor Fauci was open to it,
Speaker 11: but we were declined ability to do that. It was
Speaker 11: going to be one sided, and when he knew it
Speaker 11: was going to be one sided, he didn't want to
Speaker 11: come in. This committee normally always deals in a bipartisan way.
Speaker 11: We should have been there asking those questions.
Speaker 2: If we want to argue that this committee always works
Speaker 2: in a bipartisan way. I think if you want to argue, hey,
Speaker 2: some procedural things weren't done properly, I think you can
Speaker 2: go right ahead. But if you want to talk about
Speaker 2: a bipartisan way, what is where's the bipartisanship of the
Speaker 2: political left to say, yes, things were handled wrong, and
Speaker 2: yes Anthony Fauci handled things wrong. I can argue that
Speaker 2: Donald Trump handled things wrong. I could argue that Mike
Speaker 2: Pen's handled things wrong. I could argue Joe Biden handled
Speaker 2: things wrong. A lot of people handle things wrong. My
Speaker 2: then governor in my state, Eric Holcombe, Republican, handled things
Speaker 2: really wrong. Where are you to say this, Gary Peters,
Speaker 2: where are you to say that Anthony Fauci and Joe
Speaker 2: Biden handled things wrong? Where are you to say that
Speaker 2: the CDC handled things wrong? And the answers You're nowhere?
Speaker 2: You're nowhere. So we can see very clearly that the
Speaker 2: objective is not, well, things were not done apropriately. You
Speaker 2: don't want the things done at all.
Speaker 3: And that's where this gets the worst.
Speaker 2: Remember that, remember that we took a virus and they said,
Speaker 2: let's make it political. Not how do we help Americans,
Speaker 2: it's how do we make it political. Well, now it's political.
Speaker 2: His cell phone is now in the hands of setting investigators. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: he's in contempt. I think a full Justice Department investigation
Speaker 2: is necessary. Treat him like you would treat anybody else.
Speaker 2: Treat him like you as a Trump supporter. Na, we're
Speaker 2: onto something. Innocent will proven guilty. Sure, I think the
Speaker 2: data already proves him guilty, but I'll wait for a court.
Speaker 2: Keep it here. This is Tony Katz today, just so
Speaker 2: you know that you're not crazy, because you are not crazy.
Speaker 2: Sixty two percent of likely voters support the Save Act.
Speaker 3: Well, no, duh, Tony Katz.
Speaker 2: Tony Katz today, So going to be with you guys.
Speaker 2: This is a Rasmussen Reports survey. Forty six percent strongly supported.
Speaker 2: Out of the sixty two percent, thirty three percent oppose. Yes. Yes.
Speaker 2: The vast majority of Americans support the idea of voter
Speaker 2: id and knowing who it is that is a citizen,
Speaker 2: who it is that has the possibility the right to vote,
Speaker 2: keeping people who are trying to do us harm, keeping
Speaker 2: people here illegally be keeping people with nefarious intent out
Speaker 2: of our elections, good who could possibly be opposed to this.
Speaker 2: That Republicans can't get this done is stunning. They can't
Speaker 2: get the filibuster gone to get this done, which is
Speaker 2: still a thing that is fraught, and no.
Speaker 3: Democrat thinks that this is okay. It's madness.
Speaker 2: Now. I would have gone about trying to present this
Speaker 2: in a couple of different ways. I would have tried
Speaker 2: different pieces of legislation about voter ID, all sorts of
Speaker 2: stuff that one could try that could get us closer
Speaker 2: to the goal, and then see where Democrats vote. Know
Speaker 2: on these very basic things, Democrats favor the concept of fraud.
Speaker 2: Even you, Senator John Fetterman, Yeah, you're doing great stuff
Speaker 2: regarding the communists in your party, regarding Bernie Sanders, regarding
Speaker 2: a whole host of subjects that are very much not
Speaker 2: in vogue in the Democratic Party, like thinking Israel can exist,
Speaker 2: or that Whi's okay to have a relationship with another nation, right,
Speaker 2: very very rare things now in your party, not supporting communism, etc.
Speaker 2: But if you don't think we should have a voter ID,
Speaker 2: you're in an unserious position.
Speaker 3: It's a great.
Speaker 2: Reminder of why he could be right about a whole
Speaker 2: host of things.
Speaker 3: Not a Republican not a conservative. He's just not.
Speaker 2: And right now I'm not sure which Republicans are Republicans
Speaker 2: or conservatives.
Speaker 3: We can't get this past. America's with us. Could Lord
Speaker 3: try harder keep it here?
Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. So the President headed on
Speaker 2: down to Las Vegas to tout the economy. I don't
Speaker 2: think this was a bad idea at all. I don't
Speaker 2: think there was anything wrong with this. As a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, I think it's the right approach. Tony Katz.
Speaker 2: Tony Katz today a pleasure. It is the right approach
Speaker 2: to say, you know, there are some good things going on.
Speaker 2: We should really be talking about some of the good
Speaker 2: things that are going on. The problem comes when you
Speaker 2: dismiss the other things that are happening. This is where
Speaker 2: the president, I think, is making a mistake. That's where
Speaker 2: I've said Scott Bessant is making a mistake the treasure secretary.
Speaker 2: And I like Scott Bessont quite a bit, quite a bit.
Speaker 2: I think the vast majority of moves have been solid.
Speaker 2: I think the way he is able to better explain
Speaker 2: things than the President is excellent. I think that if
Speaker 2: he was listening to more in the room, we would
Speaker 2: see things be different. I cannot believe, and I don't
Speaker 2: believe that he is a tariff guy. I think he's
Speaker 2: trying his best to make it all work. And when
Speaker 2: we certainly talk about in which we're talking about, I mean,
Speaker 2: you've got fedboard governors talking about rate hikes because the
Speaker 2: inflation isn't going down. Why the tariffs are a huge
Speaker 2: part of that. Tariffs didn't make things explode, but it
Speaker 2: is keeping them at rates that are higher than we
Speaker 2: want to be. And when we take a look at
Speaker 2: the ten year treasury, remember the thirty year fixed mortgage.
Speaker 2: What you you know, the mortgage rate you pay for
Speaker 2: a house is based on the ten year treasury four
Speaker 2: point six Well, even if you just added two hundred
Speaker 2: basis points that are two percent, you've got mortgage rates
Speaker 2: that are six point six percent.
Speaker 3: And if you take a look at the.
Speaker 2: Thirty year fixed mortgage on average across the country, what
Speaker 2: is it six point seventy nine? Yeah, a little more
Speaker 2: than two percent higher than the tenuere that's the standard sometimes.
Speaker 3: I mean during the peak, go was two and a half.
Speaker 2: Basis point higher or more so you'd be over seven percent.
Speaker 2: Right now, people aren't buying houses at that and they're
Speaker 2: certainly buying less houses at six point seventy nine than
Speaker 2: they were at five point nine nine. The psychology is
Speaker 2: real and the money is real. These are bad rates
Speaker 2: that have a real effect. The inflation is too high,
Speaker 2: and part of the reason is the cash and the
Speaker 2: amount of people have to spend because of the tariffs.
Speaker 2: Of course they're paying more. The tariffs are indeed attacks.
Speaker 2: Did things run away? Did it get explosively crazy? No?
Speaker 3: And that's really fascinating stuff.
Speaker 2: And that is to President Trump's credit on a host
Speaker 2: of other things that he's doing. My argument is the
Speaker 2: same as doctor Will's argument, Doctor Mattwill. The economists we
Speaker 2: have on often if the tariffs weren't there, the economy
Speaker 2: would be a good explosive thing. That's felt on Midwest
Speaker 2: main Street. His biggest issue is that it's not felt
Speaker 2: on Midwest main Street. It's felt on Wall Street. Yes,
Speaker 2: absolutely true. Now one could argue that it's felt on
Speaker 2: Midwest main Street because a lot of people on Midwest
Speaker 2: main Street have investments they have for one case, or
Speaker 2: an employer, a whole host of things. And yes, indeed
Speaker 2: those things are up. Those things are quite excellent. Bra
Speaker 2: visimo perfect. Nothing's perfect, but absolutely the market. The market's
Speaker 2: over fifty four thousand. The numbers don't make any sense at.
Speaker 3: All as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 2: And I think you might agree, but it's still you
Speaker 2: could agree that it is there. There are things to
Speaker 2: point to. Are there costs that have come down? Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Are their costs that are still high? Absolutely? So when
Speaker 2: he goes and he talks about the economy, I have
Speaker 2: no issue with this.
Speaker 3: But when you dismiss it's the.
Speaker 2: Affordability conversation, I think you're making a mistake. Now, this
Speaker 2: was ms NOW or miss now or m snow or
Speaker 2: whatever they call that damn network, And this is how
Speaker 2: they edited up his audio.
Speaker 8: Americans are working in the United States right now that
Speaker 8: at any point in the history of our country, I
Speaker 8: saw poles at television. I say, Donald's Trump polls on
Speaker 8: the economy aren't good.
Speaker 3: The economy is the greatest economy.
Speaker 2: We've ever had, by far.
Speaker 3: The economy aren't good. The fake poles just like fake writers.
Speaker 12: And as the legal aliens go home, the cost of rent,
Speaker 12: groceries and other staples is coming down very fast. Our
Speaker 12: costs are coming way down. You know, they talk about affordability.
Speaker 12: I took over the country, the prices were through the
Speaker 12: roof in my first day.
Speaker 3: The press said, what are you going to do about affordability?
Speaker 3: It was a word they devised, affordability.
Speaker 12: They never used that word before.
Speaker 2: You're right, sir. They didn't use the word affordability. They
Speaker 2: talked about cost. The affordability is their word, and that
Speaker 2: was the word that Mamdannie used, and now everybody picked
Speaker 2: it up because Ma'm Donnie's the future, which is to say,
Speaker 2: bigotry is the future, Communism is the future, Islamism is
Speaker 2: the future. Well, that's not frightening at all, and you
Speaker 2: should be still talking about that, especially the idea of
Speaker 2: what it is those things are going to cost and
Speaker 2: how costly those lies are. This was Stuve Varney's show
Speaker 2: there on Fox Business about mom Donnie's free healthcare and
Speaker 2: his free buses and everything that's free.
Speaker 9: How much willman Danny's free city plan and cost taxpayers?
Speaker 13: Stu, good morning, Well, Democratic socialist Marizora Mamdanni campaigned on
Speaker 13: an agenda he said would cost about ten billion dollars
Speaker 13: a year. Turns out it's likely going to be more
Speaker 13: than that. Start with free universal childcare, The Center for
Speaker 13: New York City Affairs estimates the cost at up to
Speaker 13: nine point three billion dollars a year, fifty five percent
Speaker 13: more than Mam Donnie said. Most of that pays for
Speaker 13: his promise of teacher level salaries for childcare workers. Then
Speaker 13: there's free and fast buses. Mam Donnie said that that
Speaker 13: would take eight hundred million dollars a year. The city's
Speaker 13: Independent Budget Office says one point one billion.
Speaker 3: That plan is now on hold.
Speaker 13: Mam Donnie said he would raise ten billion dollars a year,
Speaker 13: mostly through new taxes on corporations and millionaires. So far,
Speaker 13: he's projected to raise about a billion dollars a year
Speaker 13: from a new pieta tear tax and state aid.
Speaker 3: Here's the problem.
Speaker 13: Only the state can levy new taxes, and Governor Kathy
Speaker 13: Holkl has said no.
Speaker 3: Now, before we go any further.
Speaker 2: In this reporting, which is really really well done, the
Speaker 2: headline is everything communists say is a lie. They're lying
Speaker 2: to get elected. They're lying to twenty two year olds,
Speaker 2: they are lying to everyone. Why in the world should
Speaker 2: we give these frauds any respect? Everything They start by
Speaker 2: lying about how many people Communism is killed. It's one
Speaker 2: hundred million, and I'm not interested in adding to the total.
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in making that total exponentially larger. If
Speaker 2: these people should get power, they lie about what their
Speaker 2: desires are. They lie by calling themselves socialists when they're communists.
Speaker 3: They lie by creating a party called.
Speaker 2: The DSA because they know they can't work it with
Speaker 2: the communist brand. Their healthcare is going to be childcare.
Speaker 2: Should say it's three billion dollars more expensive. Their free
Speaker 2: buses are three hundred million dollars more expensive, and their
Speaker 2: answer is to rich people will pay it because they
Speaker 2: hate It's another thing to discuss. Don't hate somebody for
Speaker 2: having money. Ask what kind of society can allow us
Speaker 2: to grow and prosper that's better off.
Speaker 3: The taker society is an evil society.
Speaker 2: While Tony, you see the problem is that society is rigged,
Speaker 2: so we can't make a living. If you tell somebody
Speaker 2: enough that something's rigged, they'll eventually believe you, and they
Speaker 2: won't try because they believe it's rigged. So here we
Speaker 2: have an example of what we have allowed to happen
Speaker 2: to our children all across America by pushing these lies
Speaker 2: on them that the system is rigged.
Speaker 3: One thing we should note is that it ain't easy.
Speaker 2: We should always be clear about how it isn't easy,
Speaker 2: and we should also be clear that we have a
Speaker 2: generation in this gen Z that truly believes they're not
Speaker 2: going to do as well as their parents, that we're
Speaker 2: going to see a backslide in growth. One could argue, well,
Speaker 2: eventually that was going to happen, right, but one cannot
Speaker 2: get particularly angry and a generation of people that I've
Speaker 2: been told there's this great American reality, this great American dream,
Speaker 2: but not for you. No, everybody else got it and
Speaker 2: took it, not for you, and that's how these lefties
Speaker 2: were able to take hold. So rather instead of saying
Speaker 2: the American dream is alive and well, you got to
Speaker 2: get into conversations about how you grab it, how you
Speaker 2: take advantage of it. But if the counter to the
Speaker 2: American dream is their socialism, pseudo intellectual, mastamatory fantasy, we
Speaker 2: have the data they're only off by three point six
Speaker 2: billion dollars. And if they're off by three point six
Speaker 2: billion dollars, who are they going to take it from.
Speaker 2: Taxation is not the answer. Redistribution is not the answer,
Speaker 2: because eventually it has to be taken from you. It
Speaker 2: was Margaret Thatcher. Eventually you run out of other people's money.
Speaker 2: They're already lying about the costs. They're not There's one
Speaker 2: mayor in New York. He's got two programs, three point
Speaker 2: six billion dollars he's off. Eventually the money has to
Speaker 2: come from somewhere for the fantasy. Maybe the issue for
Speaker 2: the younger generation is telling them that they cannot have
Speaker 2: everything they want. They're going to have to make choices,
Speaker 2: hard choices, tough choices. But within those choices, that's where
Speaker 2: the freedom is. That's where the good stuff is. I
Speaker 2: didn't say it wasn't hard. I am saying that to
Speaker 2: make choices is empowering. But maybe that's a conversation for
Speaker 2: another day. Maybe the conversation for right now is the
Speaker 2: recognition that they do have. What they see in front
Speaker 2: of them is bleakness, and we have to be able
Speaker 2: to explain to them where the opportunity is and it
Speaker 2: is for them to grab and achieve that our system,
Speaker 2: the republican capitalism, offers the most amount of opportunities, and
Speaker 2: their system, the communism and the totalitarianism, offers no choices.
Speaker 2: It isn't that everybody is equal. Well, it is that
Speaker 2: everybody is pushed down into the dirt except those at
Speaker 2: the very top. That is the history of their value system.
Speaker 2: The history of our value system is growth and opportunity
Speaker 2: and choice and actual legitimate liberty. We can prove this,
Speaker 2: and this is what proves it. Three point three billion
Speaker 2: dollars on just two programs. Imagine if they had healthcare.
Speaker 2: Imagine that healthcare. And how about the open and honest
Speaker 2: discussion that when they say free healthcare, that's a word.
Speaker 2: If you're twenty four and listening to me, first of all, bravo,
Speaker 2: well done.
Speaker 3: We'll play it.
Speaker 2: If you're twenty four and someone says to you free healthcare,
Speaker 2: you understand that you still have a broken leg. Right
Speaker 2: free healthcare, free healthcare. You get free healthcare. We get
Speaker 2: paid for it by the government. Rich people pay it
Speaker 2: and they pay their fair share. You still have a
Speaker 2: broken leg. If you break your leg, you don't care
Speaker 2: that you have free health care. You know what you
Speaker 2: care about getting your leg set, getting it fixed, getting
Speaker 2: it healed, and it healing properly. Free healthcare doesn't do that.
Speaker 2: A doctor with skill gets that done. That's what heals
Speaker 2: your leg. That's what's important. In their system. You don't
Speaker 2: get to the doctor right away. Oh sure, if you've
Speaker 2: got the money, you can pay for your own doctor.
Speaker 2: But if you believe in universal health care, government run healthcare,
Speaker 2: you don't believe in private doctors at all. Their communism,
Speaker 2: though they want to still call it socialism that's cute,
Speaker 2: means that you get what you get when you get it. Healthcare.
Speaker 2: Free healthcare doesn't mean anything. And this is the affordability
Speaker 2: conversation that Donald Trump needs to have. Not to deny
Speaker 2: that there's an affordability issue, not to say it's the
Speaker 2: greatest economy ever, certainly not for everybody. Recognize where people
Speaker 2: are and show them.
Speaker 3: That there are ways for things to get better. And yes,
Speaker 3: we are in this turn.
Speaker 2: We're also in a turn where AI is coming in
Speaker 2: and jobs are moving out and things are in flux.
Speaker 2: All of that stinks. What comes on the other side
Speaker 2: is still better if this system holds, because this system
Speaker 2: allows you to be creative and adaptive and work in
Speaker 2: your best interest. This economy is still better. And President
Speaker 2: Trump can make it better by getting rid of a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of those tariffs. You can keep them on
Speaker 2: China a couple other places, but a whole bunch of
Speaker 2: these needs to go, starting with Nicaragua. So my cigars
Speaker 2: aren't so expensive, Thank you, sir, I appreciate that. But
Speaker 2: the communists will lie to you. Look at what they've
Speaker 2: done on childcare, Look at what they've done on free buses,
Speaker 2: because nothing is free, and get their conversation on healthcare.
Speaker 2: They never say you'll actually get the care, you won't
Speaker 2: get the legs set fixed, you won't be able to
Speaker 2: run again. But they'll say free healthcare, and isn't that great? No,
Speaker 2: it's not. We have to.
Speaker 3: Speak in real terms where people really.
Speaker 2: Are, so they understand that they have a stake, so
Speaker 2: they understand they have skin in the game, so they
Speaker 2: understand that they are not powerless, that they are not victims.
Speaker 2: It could be tough, but it can be a little
Speaker 2: bit easier, and we have the tools to make it
Speaker 2: a little bit easier.
Speaker 3: But we should never turn away from the fact that
Speaker 3: it is indeed.
Speaker 2: Tough, and in that is the joy because what they
Speaker 2: offer the paradise is no paradise. You will get nothing,
Speaker 2: and if you want to then do for yourself, you
Speaker 2: will be put down. And that's how they get to
Speaker 2: one hundred million dead. Oh, one hundred million in one
Speaker 2: if you should speak out a turn. This is Tony
Speaker 2: Katz today. So the room mill has it that President
Speaker 2: Trump at a donor meeting, talking to donors in the
Speaker 2: oval said, regarding twenty twenty eight quote.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, we need to elect JD.
Speaker 2: That is a quote that someone gave to Fox News
Speaker 2: Digital Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, I have absolutely no
Speaker 2: idea if that is true or not.
Speaker 3: I have no idea whether he said it or whether
Speaker 3: he didn't.
Speaker 2: But man, is it that is going to make people
Speaker 2: talk all day.
Speaker 3: All day They're going to be talking about this.
Speaker 8: Me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a JD guy. I think I always
Speaker 2: thought it was just foreign policyware. He doesn't get it.
Speaker 2: This whole conversation about economic nationalism. We got to dig
Speaker 2: in even more. It's just not where I'm at. Do
Speaker 2: I think that we need to be protective of some
Speaker 2: things in terms of whether or not we allow ourselves
Speaker 2: to be abused by other nations. Sure, economic nationalism, I
Speaker 2: think he understands or he means it is something wholly different.
Speaker 3: I'll dig into this conversation.
Speaker 2: I promise find everything at Tony kats dot com tomorrow everyone,
Speaker 2: take care,