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Speaker 1: Dad and Hip Hop Podcast, Welcome back. This is episode three.

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Speaker 1: Kenneth Kenneth be in here with Rod and Fifo.

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Speaker 2: What fellas? Uh, nothing much man, pretty much slow week this.

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Speaker 1: Week and uh in hip hop news except for the

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Speaker 1: live we're about to do with l Russell and uh

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Speaker 1: starting up a lot of controversy you know about Lord

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Speaker 1: of Wayne. So if you guys are listening to this

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Speaker 1: YouTube dot com Slash Dad and hip Hop We have

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Speaker 1: Jay Red coming through again joining us as a special

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Speaker 1: guest because Senor Fio Senior Fifo damn, we'll be joining

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Speaker 2: As well, so.

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Speaker 2: Know we'll be tuning in that. That should be fun.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, man, we gotta we got a pretty we

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Speaker 1: hip Hop Man, you can catch us over there with

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Speaker 1: a lot of exclusive content. But we're gonna get into

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Speaker 1: the current news about j Cole, uh too short. I

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Speaker 1: threw on something a little that true about Travis and

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Speaker 1: and Kanye West. We're gonna look back to with with

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Speaker 1: our old school segment Silka Shaka uh true dropping that

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Speaker 1: dropping album around this time as well, and and Michael

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Speaker 1: wats Man. They had his memorial service today, so you know,

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Speaker 1: close out the show with just maybe some projects that

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Speaker 1: we've been listened to, a new artist you guys should

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Speaker 1: check out, and uh, you know, a quick feature discussion.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm looking forward to getting the show started

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Speaker 1: with the hip Hop Minute. So last week and it

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Speaker 1: continues this week. J Cole has been the topic of discussion.

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Speaker 1: Now we have some numbers to go along with the album.

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Speaker 1: We see that he debuted number one on Billboard two hundred,

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Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty thousand first week sales. This is

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Speaker 1: JA Cole's seventh consecutive number one album. One hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty seven thousand came from streaming, with one hundred and

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Speaker 1: sixty nine point five owned streams. That doesn't seem right

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Speaker 1: to me, but I'm gonna go with it. One hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirteen pure of sales with eighty thousand and vinyl,

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Speaker 1: which is his biggest vinyl week ever. Yes, the largest

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Speaker 1: hip hop opening since playboll CARDI Man, and he had

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Speaker 1: the trunk seale tour, selling CDs from the Honda Civic,

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Speaker 1: driving a lot of fan engagement. Of course, it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be his final ashes.

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Speaker 2: So what do you guys think? Man, it's two hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty K.

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Speaker 1: Is that impressive in twenty twenty six given the market

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think what's even more impressive is that this

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Speaker 2: is seven number one albums. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I think I think that shows the longevity and I

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Speaker 3: think that, you know, I don't want to say that

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Speaker 3: J Cole's numbers are boosted because they may have to

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Speaker 3: earn that, you know what I'm saying? Like he is

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Speaker 3: J Cole in my opinion, is the epitome of building

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Speaker 3: your own fan base and then just living off of

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Speaker 3: your fan base, right Like, I think he is the

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Speaker 3: epitome of what the independent rapper wants to be in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six and beyond. You know, obviously he started

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Speaker 3: off with a deal bot siding the j but at

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Speaker 3: some point, you know, the man we're independent and started

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Speaker 3: doing his own thing. So to me, yes, this is

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Speaker 3: definitely Ken. This is I don't want to say eye opening,

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Speaker 3: but I want to say that this is the product

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Speaker 3: of hard work, right Like, I don't feel that Ja Cole,

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Speaker 3: for the majority of those number one albums, had quote

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Speaker 3: catering to that fan base first and foremost, you know,

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Speaker 3: with the selling the CDs out of the trunk, the

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Speaker 3: dollar and the dream towards like all of that.

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Speaker 2: Type of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Man, I think j Cole, out of anybody in hip hop,

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Speaker 3: I think he is in tune with his fan base

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Speaker 3: and the numbers are just a byproduct of that. But

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Speaker 3: it is it is impressive, Ken Like, I Like, let's

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Speaker 3: be honest, like, this is impressive these numbers are impressive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even know what numbers are impressed these days.

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Speaker 5: I do remember somebody saying that that was an impressive

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Speaker 6: And and yeah, man.

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Speaker 4: It's not surprising. It's J Cole at the end of

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Speaker 5: Man, he you know, whether whether you want to believe

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Speaker 5: it or not, to have Vision's history, he was a

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Speaker 4: So he's gonna do numbers.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: He has you know, has like part of the underground,

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Speaker 5: part of the ND mainstream people know J cole name,

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Speaker 5: so like it's not it's it's it's to be expected

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Speaker 5: in my opinion. And plus I think the slightly the

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Speaker 5: little promo he did before you know it, it was

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Speaker 5: it was effective, and the promo afterwards was effective. When

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Speaker 5: he did the trunk sales and all of that, like

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Speaker 5: all of that stuff played in his favor favorite whether

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Speaker 5: people like the album or not. You know, So he

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Speaker 5: was going to get the numbers, I think. And I

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Speaker 5: think even with with Dre right, he's gonna get numbers

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Speaker 5: if he drops, because people want to know what he's

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Speaker 5: going to say, what's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: The main thing is just like if.

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Speaker 5: He can keep that momentum, which is what I'm seeing

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Speaker 2: Well, hey, you brought up the d worst or you

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Speaker 2: gotta go there. I think I think it'll be an

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Speaker 3: I don't think it'll be as big of an issue

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Speaker 3: for Call now obviously. Like typically numbers, regardless of what

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Speaker 3: Like some may stay strong, some may not have a

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Speaker 3: and we've seen it in the past where the numbers

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Speaker 3: product of the commercialism and the machine behind Drake. And

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Speaker 3: I think the situation is that everybody wants to kind

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Speaker 3: if the music isn't up to par, people ain't gonna

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Speaker 3: tap it no more. But I think it's different with

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Speaker 3: I was thinking I was thinking today, right, I think

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Speaker 3: we're living in an era of division. I think when

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Speaker 3: saying bad Bunnies half time performance, like we are a

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Speaker 3: nation divided now in everything, and I think that that's

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Speaker 3: the same thing with Cole. I think with Cole, though,

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Speaker 3: people either love it or hate it, but Cole's fan

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Speaker 3: think he'll be able to maintain that, you know, the

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Speaker 3: consistency of people bumping his album, you know, for longer

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Speaker 3: Cole's building his fan base than just being able to

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Speaker 1: It's definitely holding up for a lot of J. Cole fans,

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Speaker 1: I think for some of them, and for others it's

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Speaker 1: probably going to get better as they have more and

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Speaker 1: more time to sit with it. The division thing, You're

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Speaker 1: absolutely right in regards to that, because one of the

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Speaker 1: things I've been seeing a lot is that people have

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Speaker 1: been really just bashing J. Cole and it feels like

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Speaker 1: it's the end thing to do now, and you know,

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Speaker 1: we don't have time to get into that. I do

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Speaker 1: have some thoughts about that. You know now it's fun

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Speaker 1: to make J fun of j Cole, like it became

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Speaker 2: What fuck it?

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Speaker 1: I said, You know, when we were reviewing and making

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Speaker 1: like we weren't doing it because it was a trend

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Speaker 1: or end thing to do. It really was purely honestly

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Speaker 1: don't know if people just caught onto that wave and

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Speaker 1: or if that's just something that took place, you know,

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Speaker 1: over time. But it is interesting seeing like a lot

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Speaker 1: of the conversation around Cole, it's similar to things that

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Speaker 1: have been saying on our program for quite some time now.

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Speaker 2: But but I.

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Speaker 1: Do think so I think when you when we have

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Speaker 1: and it helps contextual contextualize his popularity among his peers,

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Speaker 1: where when you get the independent artists and underground artists,

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit different, you know, the measurement measurements

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Speaker 1: a little bit different. The KPIs are different when it

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Speaker 1: Uh So what I did was I went and got

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Speaker 1: J Cole's first week album sales by comparison. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna start with Cole World in twenty eleven, brand new

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Speaker 1: Buzz signed with Jay two hundred and eighteen thousand, Born

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Speaker 2: KOD three hundred and ninety seven the off.

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Speaker 1: Season, two hundred and eighty two, and of course right

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Speaker 1: now there were numbers we have too, eighty So he's interesting.

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Speaker 1: He had a good three album run between twenty and

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Speaker 2: But he's right in line with his numbers for.

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Speaker 5: The most part, which is interesting because I would expected

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Speaker 5: but he's still was kind of new, I guess, and

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Speaker 5: he hadn't caught that that J Cole buzz quite.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So yeah, that's interesting that that those numbers line

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Speaker 2: What did you gotta think, bro, Like he was still

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Speaker 3: That's you know, like KOD really got a big NBA push,

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Speaker 3: like that that album was flashed all over the NBA playoffs,

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Speaker 3: you said, for Your Eyes Only was like for for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, four your Eys Only was four hundred and ninety two. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the height of J cole, like like

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Speaker 2: I said it.

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Speaker 2: Fifty for those for the nose bro Rod, right, you

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Speaker 3: So when I when I saw him post the tour dates,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw was by market too.

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Speaker 2: I just said it fluctuates by of course the city

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's pretty high, bro. Like, dang, that's crazy, Like,

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Speaker 3: Wife, you were talking or I think it was either

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Speaker 2: But their tickets are like starting at three fifty.

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Speaker 3: Oh there we go, yep, Bruno Mars bro starting nose bleed.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy, bro, Like that's why I remember.

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Speaker 5: Mike used to complain about tickets for you know, bigger

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Speaker 5: You're talking about? You can get jay Z tickets for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the inflation on haircuts has gone crazy, bro,

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Speaker 3: And these ticket prices are up there too, Bro.

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Speaker 4: Wait, are y'allure? This isn't like resale number.

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Speaker 4: Ticket This can't be Ticketmaster.

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Speaker 2: Bro. Wife, he sent me the same ship last night.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's crazy. This is is this?

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Speaker 4: Tickets are this much like?

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Speaker 6: How Bro? Like? How like?

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Speaker 5: At least I'm really tapped out of like how much

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Speaker 4: That haven't been a concert probably about a year or so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a minute for me. But I guess

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Speaker 2: Rod. I'm on Ticketmaster right now and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah now I'm seeing platinum price of a six hundred.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when you start getting to those platinum like platinum.

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Speaker 4: So I think people probably bought these up.

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Speaker 6: Man, they probably boot because.

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Speaker 5: Those official ticket sales or ticket Masters or could you

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Speaker 4: Has the pretty resale a resale thing too.

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Speaker 1: I said, you came from Kyle twelve Kyle and oh shit,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, everything is saying his ticket prices are pretty

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Speaker 1: But still, you know that's that's that's that makes way

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because I'm about to say, like, what this man crazy?

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Speaker 1: So there's a whole conversation about artists not saying anything

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Speaker 2: Are we at a point where, like when we grew up.

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Speaker 4: Have some people that.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I mean everybody, you know what I'm saying, Like, like,

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Speaker 4: It's cool what y'all do.

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Speaker 5: But you know, y'all, I feel what you feel, like

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Speaker 4: Is it mandatory? No, of course not. You know what

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Speaker 5: Even myself, I don't like always talking about politics, but

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Speaker 4: That may influence and who that might touch, you know

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Speaker 5: So, you know, especially being such, you know, people admire

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Speaker 3: think it's people's own personal prerogatives, especially if it's not

442
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 3: directed to them, right, Like Lil Wayne is somebody that

443
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 3: hasn't really spoken a lot UH politically, but he got

444
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 3: the uh off of that. Georgia Georgia Bush he got

445
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 3: that like one other song out of his entire catalog.

446
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,239
Speaker 3: He may got thousands of songs, but I think that

447
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: at that moment it was appropriate for him. Obviously that's

448
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 3: what he felt on his heart. So I feel like this,

449
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 3: I feel like we can't box creatives in if that's

450
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 3: how they feel, that's how they feel, they don't feel

451
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: like that, Like like we can't put the pressure on

452
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: them to do and say. You know, like if somebody

453
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 3: wants to step into that arena and be the leader

454
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 3: of that by all means, but that's not everybody's prerogative

455
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 3: to to to to spearhead that, you know what I'm saying,

456
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 3: Like because with that, you know, we were talking last

457
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 3: night out that in sports about being like the face

458
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 3: of the NBA.

459
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 2: Who wants to be the face of that right now?

460
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Especially.

461
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: In this climate with social media where everybody has something

462
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 3: to say, Like you could be in your mind doing

463
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: the best thing for your culture, for your community by

464
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 3: speaking out and doing things, and then all of a

465
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 3: sudden you got this other faction that just bringing you

466
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,959
Speaker 3: down and basically just gonna tell you to shut up

467
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 3: and wrap you know what, I'm saying, so everybody don't

468
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 3: want to deal with that man, Like, so I don't

469
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: put that on this on anybody.

470
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 1: I don't know why Too Short felt the need to

471
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: even say that. It was so weird of a statement.

472
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: So you know, man, trust me, it's too Short as

473
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: the last person we want to hear politics from. But

474
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: he may have something interesting to say, but nobody's gonna

475
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: say he was serious.

476
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: So anyway, Uh, yeah.

477
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 5: I was gonna say real quick, I think I think

478
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 5: he had decent intention. Like, I guess he was just saying, like,

479
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 5: to protect yourself as an artist, maybe not get into politics,

480
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 5: because you see the stuff that's happening with Nicki Minaj,

481
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 5: you see the stuff that's happening with different people. So

482
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 5: I think he was just talking from solely from the

483
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 5: perspective of, like, yo, if you want to keep your

484
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 5: name out of stuff and you want to stay out

485
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 5: of trouble, you probably shouldn't talk about politics. Which he's

486
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 5: not wrong to a cent because everybody's not going to

487
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 5: agree with your political views.

488
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 6: I mean we know that.

489
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 5: Just you're not even supposed to bring up thing in

490
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 5: the workplace because of that, right, it's a touchy subject.

491
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 5: In different areas of work, you know what I'm saying.

492
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 5: So I think with him, he's looking at it in

493
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 5: the sense of like how people say don't bring up

494
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 5: politics in the workspace, So he's probably saying, don't bring

495
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 5: up politics in the wrap space or whatever. So I

496
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 5: get what he's saying to a certain extent about you know,

497
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 5: if you don't want to like possibly ruin your career

498
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 5: or be under under attack, you probably should not talk

499
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 5: about politics. So I get it from that standpoint. But again,

500
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 5: I think some people are fully ready for that type

501
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 5: of smoke.

502
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, some people are. I think some people are.

503
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 2: I think I don't think you should casually do it.

504
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 6: You know.

505
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 3: I think that if you are going to and even

506
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 3: if you don't make yourself a political rapper, but if

507
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 3: you're going to speak on something, definitely be informed. Definitely

508
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 3: make it be heartfelt. Don't just hit the headlines and

509
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 3: just put that in a wrap and be like, oh, yeah,

510
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 3: you know, I'm fighting for us, Like nah, like really

511
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: be about that, right, Like be genuine if that's what

512
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: you're gonna do. Because all of Killer Mike's music isn't

513
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: necessarily about you know what I'm saying, but when he

514
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 3: raps about it, you know where it's coming from. You

515
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying something that these stands also something

516
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: he believes on and it's something that he's he puts

517
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: actions behind. And my other thing is this.

518
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 2: Okay, we could get off of this after this, right.

519
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 3: Like somebody that I felt that never really spoke politics

520
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: but spoke or showed actions on changing their community was Nipsey.

521
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 3: He ain't never rapped about you know this, that and

522
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 3: the third and you know, outside of Donald Trump, I

523
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: feel at you know whatever, But outside of that, bro,

524
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: like he put action behind his words, just like Killer

525
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: Mike does.

526
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: Like Killer Mike is an activist.

527
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: Killer Mike will speak in front of politicians, you know,

528
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 3: in front of community, in front of so to me,

529
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: if you're gonna do it, just have the action behind it, man,

530
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 3: don't just leave it to you know. Again, if it's

531
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: like a one off light like Lil Wayne, that's cool.

532
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 3: You know, this is what's on your heart, cool, put

533
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 3: it out there. But if you're gonna be about it,

534
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 3: then be about it, you know.

535
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: So that's just my two yeah, and too short.

536
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't deal much into politics, but on

537
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: the short but funky album. He did have a song

538
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: called the Ghetto which kind of chronicled and talked about stuff. So,

539
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: you know, he's spoken about things that were happening in

540
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 1: his issue. He just indeed into poloitics. He kind of

541
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: ventured away from that. But you know, he has he

542
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, he's had some stuff to say. Last thing

543
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: I got man put a hip hop minute. You know,

544
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: I know he's a very much maligned rapper. You know,

545
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: he recently put out on apology in Wall Street Journal.

546
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: I think.

547
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: But uh, but there's news that Kanye West and Travis

548
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: Scott have an album Him on the Way and uh.

549
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: This was communicated by Havoc in an interview with Complex.

550
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: He said a couple of songs that he has have

551
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: made the cut so far. Travis Scott was in a

552
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: thing during a concert, and he said they may have

553
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: something special soon. H Travis Scott brought Yay out in Japan,

554
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: so they definitely have worked together. Any interest and Yay

555
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: Scott album?

556
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 6: Mm hmmm.

557
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: I just I'm so off of yet Kanye at this point.

558
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 5: Man like it would have to and I think I

559
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 5: brought I brought this up somewhere, said to somewhere else

560
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 5: or some or another show that we were on or doing,

561
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 5: like at this point he has a steep hill decline.

562
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 4: If that even even if that hill is even there.

563
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 5: For me, like it has to I don't know, man,

564
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 5: it has to be some crazy revigorated type of situation.

565
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 4: I don't even I don't even care, Like he's not

566
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 4: a draw for me anymore.

567
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: So even with Travis Scott.

568
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 4: When you say even with Travis.

569
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 5: Scott, I don't even know what that means, like because

570
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 5: like I'm not assume as Travis Scott.

571
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, That means nothing to me.

572
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 4: So it like that.

573
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 5: But my point is this kid, even if it was

574
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 5: somebody that I really like, right, let's say, like I'm

575
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 5: mak Kanmi as somebody right, which is God went on

576
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 5: the way we just found out, which is super dope,

577
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 5: I just don't care, Like I don't know.

578
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 4: What what what a Kanye.

579
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 5: Knack homic thing would even sound like, you know what

580
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like, so Kanye, isn't that draw whereas one before,

581
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 5: like oh snap, you know what I'm saying, he got

582
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 5: Kanye West. That's crazy. I don't have It's not I

583
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 5: don't have that anymore with Kanye. Kanye Kanye's name holds

584
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 5: no weight for me anymore, like none.

585
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: I'm still curious, especially with collaborations.

586
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: I don't think you're wrong modest, Like Kanye is not

587
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: the draw he once was musically, you know, like before

588
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 3: it was kind of like, oh you got a Kanye

589
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: beat or you know, Kanye call to be, you.

590
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: Know, pandemonium.

591
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: You know He's gonna go plat hum in three days

592
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 3: like it's you know, like it was, it was. It

593
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: was a different time, this version of Kanye. I'm more

594
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 3: so interested to see the collaborations because when he's doll,

595
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 3: I'm kind of like just hasn't hit like that, you know,

596
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: in recent time with the Travis, with the addition of

597
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: Travis Scott, I am interested to see where it goes,

598
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: mainly because the web that is interwoven in this thing,

599
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: right Like Pusha used to be Kanye's like guy, and

600
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: you know Pusha said, you know, he do anything for Kanye.

601
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: He had lines about Travis, and then now Kanye got

602
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: Travis collab album. So I don't know, like I'm interested

603
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: in the in the threads that are there that could

604
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: you know, are we gonna get Travis say something about pushing.

605
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: On a Kanye join like you know, like so does

606
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: push your response?

607
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: So for me, I'm more so interested in all of

608
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: the ancillary things versus what it actually is. It's like,

609
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: what can what can happen from this versus the music itself.

610
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: I'm more interested in the outside than the music.

611
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: So to that degree, I am interested, But I'm with you,

612
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: it's not the draw anymore.

613
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we don't have to spend a lot of time.

614
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: I thought Travis Scott was the interesting thing here. Kanye

615
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: continues to try to claw his way back into people's

616
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: good graces. Am I or will I be listening to

617
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: this First day out? Absolutely not? Second day Out? No,

618
00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: a week later, three weeks later, probably not. But I

619
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: will be watching the commentary around it to see what

620
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: people saying. And I'm not saying I won't even listen

621
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 1: to it. I probably will eventually listen to it at

622
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: some point. But I definitely, like ufifo him interested in

623
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: the things around it more than the album itself. So

624
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: that's what That's why, you know, I know, bringing Kanye up,

625
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: and he's done a lot of harm to the black

626
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: community with his antics.

627
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: And things.

628
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: He said, you know, and I'm with you, Roder, he

629
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: has a lot of work to do to repair that.

630
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: And I don't know.

631
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: What he could do to to do that to get

632
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 1: to erase the harm he's done or but you know,

633
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: we'll see. But yeah, I just was kind of checking

634
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: the temperature on that for me.

635
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 6: As a harm real quick.

636
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Yeah, it goes deeper. For it's just the

637
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 4: quality of music this is in there.

638
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 5: Like sometimes I could, I could overlook certain things that

639
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 5: he's doing personally in his life.

640
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 4: If the music is good. But it don't even he

641
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 4: don't even have that anymore.

642
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: To me.

643
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 4: Music just doesn't sound.

644
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fact.

645
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, if we just want to keep it on an

646
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 4: artist level.

647
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: I still haven't no Bully, it is bullied doing this

648
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: on the way. It was the one after that that

649
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: he dropped the second Vultures. He had Vultures and then

650
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: he had Bully. I still haven't listened to Vultures too,

651
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 1: but uh anyway, man, So yeah, that's been a hip

652
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: hop minute. If you guys are watching this on YouTube,

653
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: you can catch the full podcast in its entirety on Patreon, Patreon,

654
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,959
Speaker 1: dot com.

655
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 2: Slash Dead and hip hop.

656
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: With that, you'll get the rest of the show where

657
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: we are going to talk about some old school joints.

658
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 2: Rod, We're gonna take it back, take it back to

659
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 2: the old school.

660
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: You're one of the ones that get hyped with me

661
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: about this album.

662
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 2: Sick the Shaka Drug.

663
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 5: It would ever, never ever be any Silk the Shocker,

664
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 5: shame hate. If I'm in the room every I'm always

665
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 5: gonna ride for Silk the Shocker every time. I don't

666
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 5: care who is in the room.

667
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yesterday, we're recording this on Wednesday, on the eighteenth.

668
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah on the seventeenth, Well, it was on

669
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: Hip Hip Hop DOUBLETSL. He dropped the nineteen ninety eight

670
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: Silk the Shocker dropped this album.

671
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: Charge it to the game. You familiar with this album,

672
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 2: of course, to it forever.

673
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, now, look, man, I was a big, massive

674
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: look bro. I was in Miami when that shit came out,

675
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: so Florida was all over No Limits. So I listened

676
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 3: to everything that came out of No Limit Camp. But

677
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 3: you look, he is the duel Santanda of No Limit.

678
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's so disrespectful.

679
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, sound right?

680
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: Bro, if you don't listen to camera, camera said, he

681
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: go back and listen to Joel's music more than he

682
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: does his own.

683
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 2: Like like he was, he was.

684
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: A big draw for them, you know what I'm saying.

685
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 3: It's kind of what made them a little bit different. Like,

686
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 3: you know, everybody I felt like was the same. Like

687
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: Silk was the most different out of everybody him and

688
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: mystical with my opinion, but everybody else was.

689
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: You know, this joint got some bangers on it.

690
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 4: Bro.

691
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: The opening track on a Soldier give Me the World,

692
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: Throw your hood up, man, I'm always he got.

693
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 4: Right man, man man.

694
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 5: He he was a pioneer man, a kilter rap. You

695
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, That offbeat stuff man, that was

696
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 5: the Shaker man over.

697
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 4: You know, go.

698
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: Ahead, No, I would saying. I used to play this

699
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: album all.

700
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 6: Me too, kid.

701
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: I had no idea that people felt this way about

702
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: Silk the Shaker, Bro.

703
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: I did know.

704
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 5: I can't say I didn't know that because even back

705
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 5: then he wasn't people's favorite. But I always personally liked Silk,

706
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 5: I mean, and the people like charges to the game.

707
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 5: They just you know, people always had this kind of

708
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 5: kind of like take with Silver the Shocker. So it's

709
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 5: not it's not surprising to me.

710
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: I think I've always just just and you know what,

711
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: my thing with them, And I'm going to bring up

712
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: another album as well that I think this one dropped

713
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: on the eighteenth True to the Game. I think that

714
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: with them, I think people just understood they were who

715
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: they were and didn't have the sort of expectations.

716
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: Of like Raqi or anyone else. Like these guys.

717
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: Were street dudes that had a great production team behind

718
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: them that made some bang beats and they just they

719
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: just wrapped and it was just high energy, like you

720
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: put on No Limit Soldier from True to the Game.

721
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: I don't care who you are.

722
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: You can be the most pretentious rap fan ever that

723
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: ship come on. Something wrong with you if you're not

724
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: moving right?

725
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, you know.

726
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: To me, that was the album that was the one

727
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: that was always in rotation for me. That uh and

728
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: Ghetto dd about It bout it Those are like my

729
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: top three, you know, limit joints, But Tru was was

730
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 3: like swamp niggah.

731
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 7: Uh.

732
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 3: You know, I'm bad with names and I'm coming off

733
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 3: the top and it's been a minute sas I listened

734
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: to that swamp Niggah.

735
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: There was like two or three other ones that was

736
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: got a freak gold freak hols.

737
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, said shout out future, trying to redo it, you

738
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But nah, man like Tru was

739
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 3: one of the ones. Can Tru broke?

740
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 6: Like that was Bro.

741
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 2: I'll never forget the.

742
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 3: First time I heard no living soldiers Bro. We was

743
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 3: playing football in the street in Miami. Bro, Like, that's

744
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 3: a big thing down there. I don't know, you know,

745
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 3: anywhere else, you know, but we was playing and then

746
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 3: somebody came through with like with beating the trunk but just.

747
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: Like sitting down the black.

748
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,959
Speaker 3: Yo, that thing hard and it just everybody a little

749
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 3: Haiti was just bumping the dog like damn.

750
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 5: So I got my hands on the CD now I

751
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 5: was playing it. You know, I had a stereo system

752
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 5: outside Bro. Yeah, Man like Tru Bro Tru that's one

753
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 5: of the ones.

754
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you still ain't using damn jail audios?

755
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: Can man, Lord, here we go, here we go.

756
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 5: It is probably the wires probably like turned the dust

757
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 5: right now. Man, them things don't even work right now.

758
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 5: That phone is probably it's probably dry rotted you Hell.

759
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, kind of stuff going.

760
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: Man, oh man, jail audio do.

761
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 4: You still actually have them?

762
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

763
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 4: That is wowd bro, this is like that bro, yo,

764
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 4: that is what man.

765
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 6: You probably Man, I wonder if, like.

766
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 5: I don't know if people do collection collector's items on

767
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 5: that type of stuff. But man, you probably somebody said,

768
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 5: oh man, man, yeah, but they probably it'll probably tails

769
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 5: soon as you hook them things up.

770
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 4: To it.

771
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: Done.

772
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 4: Oh man, done, the things will be done. God, that's

773
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: a long time, bro. Yeah, it is real quick. People

774
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 4: they excited about you on the coach, all all the

775
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 4: comments about you.

776
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: Oh really.

777
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: Where it's only he hasn't posted right now, like like

778
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 4: you know.

779
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: How we do yeah yeah.

780
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 4: YouTube YouTube like they already making comments. They're like yo,

781
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 4: like the hip hop like everything is donning hip hop.

782
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 6: That's crazy.

783
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 4: Let me tell you man, we look people sleeping on

784
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 4: the influence.

785
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: Bro.

786
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 4: We started this round table.

787
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 2: With our whole table. Yeah.

788
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: Rooms anyway, man, shout out to those two albums. Man,

789
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: if you're on Patret, man, go listen to those albums.

790
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: And here's what I'll say if if you guys want

791
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: us to to do an in depth discussion or track

792
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: by track discussion or play some of our favorite tracks

793
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: or whatever. Let us know, uh for Patreon, we'll we'll, we'll,

794
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, we could put something together because there's some joints.

795
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: I was just kind of skimming it through it a

796
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: little bit like I wanted, Man, we need to make

797
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: a playlist, can.

798
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 2: Man?

799
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, we need to make an official playlist.

800
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 6: And just like, look y'all for the those that don't

801
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 6: know believe this.

802
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: He go and yeah, yeah, it's like you we're the

803
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: old GZ this.

804
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: You guys come to us, man, you know, and you know,

805
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: I know some of us found like we put stuff

806
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: in in buckets. I don't know if they do that

807
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,479
Speaker 1: these days, even though I've been covering the space since

808
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: we all been coming to space for fifteen years. But

809
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: you know, we can give you guys a definitive playlist

810
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: of Silk the Chaka songs.

811
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: Don't listen to what everybody's saying, man, but listen to us.

812
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 4: Right.

813
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 3: How many joints? Like like, like, how many joints before

814
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 3: you feel the playlist starts to fall off?

815
00:42:59,160 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 6: Man?

816
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: Features that.

817
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 4: I can make it. I can make a solid twenty playlist.

818
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 5: Guarantee. I can make you won't skip, You won't skip.

819
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,720
Speaker 5: I can make I think I can make a solid

820
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 5: twenty for sure of silver shot tracks you want, you

821
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 5: will not skip?

822
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just go, man, trust us.

823
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 6: You know what, we.

824
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,240
Speaker 2: Might do that one day, we might Patreon.

825
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: We might just sit here and I can put it

826
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: on screen and we'll just go through and we'll put

827
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 1: the playlist together so you guys can see it. Well,

828
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: since it'll be Patreon, we can actually play some of

829
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: the songs so you guys can hear the joints and

830
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So if you guys want that, because

831
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: we only do it if you guys want us to

832
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: do it, So let us go.

833
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 2: So uh for you guys.

834
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: But shout out to arab and Rocky paid in full

835
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: got inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame. There was

836
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: a whole nasty conversation from Simmons about that. There was

837
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: a small conversation about that on the ISEM. I still

838
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: own podcasts which just dropped today. If you want just

839
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: wanted to hear that, you know, of course, and I've

840
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: been talking about rockqun. We had a whole rockyen versus

841
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: l conversation last year and of course again this year.

842
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 1: You know, he elevated lyricism. Man, he changed the game

843
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: with internal rhyme schemes and his flow everybody with his production.

844
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: Uh.

845
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: And you know it's still a very very influential album

846
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: to this day. The question I have though, and you know,

847
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: give at least at least one of course, if you

848
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: got two two albums, you think we'll make the Hall

849
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: of Fame in the future.

850
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 4: Rock Kim, what do you mean?

851
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: Just albums that are out like now that we've spent

852
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: some time with, Like, any future albums you see.

853
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: Will be Hall of Fame worthy rock and roll Hall

854
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: of Fame worthy. So they do albums.

855
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 4: They don't do like just the artists.

856
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: They do a Uh, I think it's the album. Hold on,

857
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 2: let me let me make sure.

858
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was that. I thought it was

859
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 4: the artist.

860
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: Okay, give me an artist.

861
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 5: I mean, clearly Kendrick. I mean I think that's the

862
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 5: given answer, you know. Uh, Kendrick would definitely at some

863
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 5: point go in the Hall of rock and Roll Hall

864
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 5: of Fame.

865
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 2: Uh.

866
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:34,959
Speaker 4: Who else?

867
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: I think the Big Three will Drake? Oh yeah, they

868
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: do albums. They do albums, roight. Yeah.

869
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: This this is the Grammy Hall of Fame, not the

870
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 1: rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Oh, okay, okay, yeah,

871
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: so All Eyes on Me is on their.

872
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: Rhythm Nation, got other stuff.

873
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 5: Still sticking with Kendrick, I think Kendrick can have two

874
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 5: albums in there, Good kid Man City and.

875
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 4: I think both of those could have going there.

876
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 6: Dang we who else?

877
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 4: Who? Who else?

878
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 6: Am I thinking about? Like this day and age when

879
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 6: you say, like.

880
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: What you're saying twenty twenty up or like it could

881
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: be twenty twenty up, you know it could be.

882
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the full list of albums sold

883
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: on what are the requirements?

884
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 2: How old? But I think those are those are two

885
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: good ones. Kendrick. Of course, we'll definitely, we'll definitely twenty

886
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 2: five years old, so it has to be twenty five

887
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: years old.

888
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 4: M hmm.

889
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: Five all right. So that means though I can go

890
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: early in two thousand and one. Oh really?

891
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 5: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah two thousands so oh one yeah,

892
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 5: Kanye West, My beautiful, dark, twisted Fantasy.

893
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 4: That can go in there.

894
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: I think that in Do you think the Black Album?

895
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: I know people talk about that one a lot. Is

896
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: that Hall of Fame worthy?

897
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: I don't think you know that that's my favorite bat?

898
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think it's making the Hall

899
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 2: of Fame. Yeah, I don't know.

900
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 5: I don't know, but I feel like if a J

901
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 5: album isn't not in there already, I mean Blueprint.

902
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 4: For sure, if that's not already an.

903
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it says the Hall of Fame aims to

904
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: honor recordings that have left an indelible mark on music history.

905
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 4: Blueprint for sure.

906
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 5: I think Blueprint, My Beautiful Darts was the Fantasy was

907
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 5: a time, Like I said, either one of those, either one.

908
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 4: Of those Kendrick albums. I feel like one of the

909
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 4: Drakes can get in there too, either take Care or

910
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 4: it was the other one with the with the Clouds,

911
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 4: one of those. One of those could get man. I

912
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 4: think you gotta put up here.

913
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 3: So so so I was looking at like per year

914
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: in two thousand and one. The only one I put

915
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: in there is Blueprint, but in two thousand. But there's

916
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 3: a there's a lot, there's a lot, or hold on,

917
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 3: I'll take that back.

918
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: Give me a few in there, will we'll move on that.

919
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: You think from that two thousand lists.

920
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 3: I think, so hold on, is this I think that

921
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 3: this list, Yeah, this list, it's just it's saying the

922
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 3: two thousands.

923
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find like the releases two thousands.

924
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 3: Hmmm, as much as I like Supreme Clientele by Ghostraight,

925
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 3: So I don't think that that's gonna make it.

926
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 2: Damn in two thousand.

927
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: It's a hot mark when you talk about Hall of Fame,

928
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it's not everything. Like if you think

929
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: about the conversation we had last night on deren in

930
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: Sports about the NBA Hall of Fame, like it's watered

931
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: down and ain't really worth ship.

932
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: When we're talking about Hall of Fame, it needs to

933
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 2: be up to think bro three six Mafield want to

934
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: smoke clears? Should that be in the Hall of Fame.

935
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: If we're if we're talking to hip hop, maybe, but

936
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 1: we're talking about like it it has to have shaken

937
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: the core of music beyond hip hop.

938
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 2: Well I think it. I think it's shaped Atlanta's run

939
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: of music.

940
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: And and and and you know three Sixes is always

941
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 3: like they knew, like you know, that's why one of

942
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 3: the albums they called it the most known the nos

943
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 3: like like they knew how influential they are but don't

944
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: get the credit for.

945
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 4: But I mean, I do think I would say album

946
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 4: if that's the case.

947
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: Okay, which one ca?

948
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, t Aliens or like a criminal probably.

949
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: Of course, of Cuminine.

950
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 6: I think equipment I were going there.

951
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 5: Probably at Aliens though, just put the name alone like everybody,

952
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 5: it's easily identifiable.

953
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 4: It's just one of those times. Crimini is my favorite.

954
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 4: But if they picked one, it probably will be at Aliens.

955
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: All right, Well, you guys watching man, let us know

956
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: the standard has to be high. I know they like

957
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: the lower standards nowadays, but standards have to be high

958
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: of what apps you guys think are Hall of Fame worthy.

959
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: So so yeah, we'll leave it there, but shout out

960
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: to Arab and rock quim.

961
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: Uh. We didn't get a chance to acknowledge this.

962
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: But let's part a little liquor for one James Monard,

963
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: co founder of Source magazine, who created the blueprint for

964
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: hip hop journalism and was definitely one of the most

965
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: important and influential hip.

966
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: Hop magazines of all time in my golden era without

967
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: the Source.

968
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: If you don't have the Source, you probably don't have

969
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: that hip hop in all honesty. Yeah, in so many

970
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: ways because they became you know, I want to turn

971
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: his negative well never mind, Yeah, so shout out to him,

972
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: you know, r ip to him, I should say.

973
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 2: So, Yeah, I missed that earlier. And DJ Michael five

974
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: thousand man Watts very very very like I feel like

975
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 2: he had so his uh his service was held today

976
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: and uh.

977
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: DJ Michael five thousand Watts but very very very like

978
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: influential way back in the day, you know, left a

979
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 1: very very very huge mark with Swisher House.

980
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: I feel like, if you're a hip hop fan of

981
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: hip hop, you know Switch the House. And if you

982
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: don't know Switch the House, you know Mike Jones. You

983
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 2: know Mike Jones, you know Slim Thug, you know Paul

984
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: Paul Wall, you know yep, all.

985
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: Because of him, with very notable records and songs and

986
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: hip hop history. He passed because of a cardiac cardiac

987
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 1: arrest at the age of fifty two. So our ip

988
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: to him, So shout out to him and O g

989
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: ron C and all of them. Did you guys, were

990
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,479
Speaker 1: you guys big on Switch House?

991
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 6: Yeah?

992
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: For sure, many of you guys get into those DJ

993
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: ron C tapes. This tape they used to do back

994
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: in the day.

995
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if mine was official, but you know,

996
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 2: definitely out the gas Station.

997
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a good old old days, brother, the

998
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 1: good old days. Yeah, man, so uh r, I p man.

999
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: We're at that point where I think, now, I remember

1000
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 1: when my dad, my dad started having his legends and

1001
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: stuff passed, and that's that's happening to us, man, and

1002
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: we're singing now. I saw earlier today that doctor Dre

1003
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: is sixty one. Ye, he turns sixty one today, So

1004
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: it's it's happening man. So so yeah, so anyway, uh

1005
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: F has to has a tight schedule. So so before

1006
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: we get out of here, I want to we're going

1007
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: to close out with an artist or album our ear

1008
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: to the Streaks segment. An artist or album that you

1009
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: guys have been listening to that you guys want to spotlight.

1010
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: I know, Rod you mentioned my COMMI has one one

1011
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: coming up. Yeah, ma, Commie has one.

1012
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: On the way. Yeah.

1013
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 4: No, did you send that or I think it was

1014
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 4: b Was it be that synth it? Yeah, it's probably yeah,

1015
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 4: Oh I might.

1016
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 6: Have been Isaiah.

1017
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 4: Actually I think it got you got you.

1018
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 5: I forgot for this one. I'm being honest with you.

1019
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 5: I forgot to look up what I've been listening to.

1020
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: What you got, people you got or what you got?

1021
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: It's here too the street, So it could be something

1022
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: that's that's on the way, you know. We just yeah, yeah, yeah,

1023
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: So it can do a couple of different ways, you know.

1024
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: So so look, I'll be I'll be go ahead if I'm.

1025
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 4: Gonna say real quick. I don't know if y'all listen

1026
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 4: to it, but I did.

1027
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 5: But what Sauce Walker had did to the A Heart

1028
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 5: not Life beat on those freestyle shows, did y'all hear that?

1029
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:04,959
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1030
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 4: I did. Oh my god, bro, I did the guy

1031
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 4: when he wanted to be.

1032
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 6: Murdered it dog like.

1033
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 4: I was just like Jesus Christ, is this dude is?

1034
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1035
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 4: Man, when he's in that bag, bro, it's it's like

1036
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 4: where did that bag come from?

1037
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1038
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 3: But definitely start laying brand new either though, huh, definitely

1039
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 3: start a brand new I understand.

1040
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 4: But I had never seen it.

1041
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 5: I have never seen it, so you know, I mean

1042
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 5: there might be some other people out there that him

1043
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 5: hadn't seen it.

1044
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 4: I was one.

1045
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it either. Man. You don't listen to freestyles,

1046
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: can you don't listen? So I listened to that one. Yeah. Nah.

1047
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 3: So I got three projects that I feel that you know, Look,

1048
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 3: this is what I think is hot. You know what

1049
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying, So currency everywhere you look. He dropped this

1050
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 3: joint January twenty third, so earlier this year. Definitely, Man,

1051
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 3: the beats on here is fucking ridiculous current. She's on

1052
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 3: a crazy run. The Mussolini dun data he dropped that

1053
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: January twentieth. That joint has been in rotation, and then

1054
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 3: just most recently Body and Ransom and Nicholas Craven Salvation

1055
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 3: for the Wicked that drop February twelfth. So definitely go

1056
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 3: listen to them joints. The first two joints is more

1057
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 3: smooth whatever, but if you want them bars, go to

1058
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 3: that Salvation for the Wicked man both Body, Hey, hey,

1059
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 3: hey BOLDI look Rob.

1060
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if you realize man. Body dropped nine

1061
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: projects last year.

1062
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 4: Bro, I know, I told you, like, I think one

1063
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 4: one of them, one of them, two of them made.

1064
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 6: Well, one of them made my mid year.

1065
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 5: I don't think any of them made my top ten,

1066
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 5: but that definitely one of them made. Yeah, like the

1067
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 5: Appabat Boys or something like that one I told you

1068
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 5: all to go listen to.

1069
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he been putting in work. But now this one, man,

1070
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 3: because you know I feel Ransom, it's top tier. When

1071
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 3: it come to the bars, he was in lockstep just like, Yeah.

1072
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 4: I listened to it. I listened to it.

1073
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 2: I was for me, though.

1074
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,479
Speaker 5: It kind of sounded like an odd parent, like really,

1075
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 5: you know, they didn't mess to me, Like they didn't

1076
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 5: mess with me.

1077
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 4: They didn't mess to me.

1078
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 6: It sounded like.

1079
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 4: Two different guys that sat in versus it didn't mess

1080
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 4: for me.

1081
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 5: They both did great, don't get me wrong, Like like

1082
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 5: both they are like Ransom, they both wanted they both

1083
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 5: were great. But it's just like there was no chemistry

1084
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,439
Speaker 5: for me, Like I don't know it just it wasn't

1085
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 5: a good good parent for me.

1086
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: M all right into the streets when I got this

1087
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: week for you guys, check out Lord jan Monte.

1088
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 5: A long time ago. Have you listened to a right?

1089
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 5: I didn't listen to as of now yet, But man,

1090
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 5: I told you all about that dude, bro.

1091
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 2: He was what we did.

1092
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 4: He was one of the first people.

1093
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: Laugh.

1094
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 4: I brought to the uh what what was it called

1095
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 4: the show call that we used to do, bring the

1096
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 4: artist to it.

1097
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what you're talking about.

1098
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 5: I forgot what we called it whatever, but I brought

1099
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 5: him that was one of the guys I brought before.

1100
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, his new one is good.

1101
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

1102
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Speaker 6: I don't even know what we called it.

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00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, putting that word for a minute. Yeah, man,

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00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 5: I meant to go. You know what, man, I'm glad

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00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 5: you said that because I meant to go check it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think he's out of North Carolina.

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00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, now I just dropped the new joint as

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00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: of now, so definitely everybody go check that joint out.

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00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm looking at Apple Music right now. He

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00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:12,439
Speaker 1: got one two, three, eleven.

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00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 4: Black Black Mobiles that came out in twenty twenty two.

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00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 6: That's really hard one after that, here, there, everywhere.

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00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 5: Man, Lord, he's been putting in some serious work. And

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00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 5: I forgot how I found him.

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Speaker 4: I think I had.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: It was when I used to listen to Spotify real heavy.

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00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 5: You're listening to the Spotify play similar artists to the

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Speaker 5: artists that you're listening to, and he kept popping up.

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00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, who is this guy? And one day

1122
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 5: I just went to go listen to him, like, oh yeah, Fish,

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00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 5: he's super Fish.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there you guys have it man, So if

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Speaker 1: you guys are not up on any of them, definitely.

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Speaker 2: Go check out some of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: And people may may need to hit up, hit up,

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Speaker 1: hit him up, man, say we can get him on

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00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: the show, you know, yeah so, but that's it man,

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Speaker 1: that's going to do it for the Dead and Hip

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Speaker 1: Hop Podcast. This episode three. If you guys haven't seen this,

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Speaker 1: you got made it to the end. We're doing a

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01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: little tribute to the thirty year anniversary of Tupac's All

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01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: Eyes on Me, So go check that out if you

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Speaker 1: have not, But until next week, we are out.

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Speaker 2: Peace.