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Speaker 2: what is he making?

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Speaker 3: Make money? Lots and lots of money.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So he did multiple interviews yesterday. One was an

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Speaker 2: have to ask yourself why was he doing this? One vengeance?

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Speaker 2: Two it was the anniversary of the auto pen dropping

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Speaker 3: Okay, Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 1: Whoa whoa whoa who Yeah, you're you're saying to me,

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Speaker 1: like legitimate people. Was this just some was some egg

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Speaker 2: Now this was a talking head on a TV show, Lene.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they or anyone was rolling him out.

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Speaker 1: No offense, Kevin Casey, You ever done cocaine?

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Speaker 1: Utterly ridiculous that you would accuse me of doing cocaine.

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Speaker 2: Of course they're gonna blame me. You're listening to Kendall

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State in the state of Indiana. He is

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Speaker 1: mister competent. David Shelton, Hello, good morning. All right, so

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Speaker 1: you sent out this press release. I thought this is fascinating.

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Speaker 1: There is a let's start with this. There's a new

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Speaker 1: law that affects many elected local elected officials across the state.

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Speaker 3: Tell us about it.

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Speaker 5: It's a new law. It affects the vast majority, I'd

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Speaker 5: say at least eighty, if not ninety percent, of all

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Speaker 5: elected officials. If you hold a position that pays over

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Speaker 5: five thousand dollars per year. You're now required to have

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Speaker 5: an open campaign finance committee for your government position.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So like if you're a town councilman, or a

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Speaker 1: city councilor, or a mayor and you make more than

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Speaker 1: five thousand dollars in that position, you've got to keep

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Speaker 1: your campaign finance open.

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Speaker 5: Correct, And you also have to file annual campaign finance

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Speaker 5: reporting as well. And you used to not have to

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Speaker 5: do that, That's correct. You could shut your committee down

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Speaker 5: and I advise all my local candidates once the election

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Speaker 5: was over. Yeah, shut it down, so you don't have

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Speaker 5: to do annual reporting because most of them they're not

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Speaker 5: fundraising in three years, they're not running for office.

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Speaker 1: And that was me, right, I knew I was running

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Speaker 1: one time and that's it. And so I was, you know,

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Speaker 1: election's over, won the thing, goodbye, have a good day.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is one less thing I've got to

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Speaker 1: deal with because if you have a campaign account, open

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Speaker 1: the money in it.

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Speaker 3: You got to file this form every year.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's correct. So the law changed, Yes I did,

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Speaker 1: And what does the law say?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 5: Law says you now have to have an open campaign

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Speaker 5: finance committee and you must file annual reporting, Okay.

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Speaker 3: And that is what is the goal of that?

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Speaker 1: Like, do you get a you get a semblance of

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Speaker 1: what the goal on that is, because like for someone

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Speaker 1: like me when.

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Speaker 3: Running in there was nothing for me to report.

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Speaker 1: There was no Why would I need to have a

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Speaker 1: campaign finance committee open if I'm not raising any money.

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Speaker 5: It's all about transparency, you know. The people want to

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Speaker 5: know what their elect officials are doing, how they're raising money,

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Speaker 5: who they're getting money from. So they want to keep

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Speaker 5: tabs on everything. And I'm all for it.

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Speaker 1: Now, this is a big deal because I've talked to

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Speaker 1: multiple elected officials who said, like their town attorney or

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Speaker 1: their city attorney sent them some sort of update, said hey,

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Speaker 1: you got to you got a reminder. You got to

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Speaker 1: do this now because they're not used to doing it.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 1: Now, this is where the press release you sent out

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Speaker 1: comes in. By the way, David Shelton is our guest.

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Speaker 1: He's running for Secretary of State the Sullivan County Indiana

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Speaker 1: Republican Party. I'll just read this is from your press release. Correct,

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Speaker 1: And this was I believe a Facebook screen shot that

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Speaker 1: you guys grabbed.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 1: This is from the Sullivan County, Indiana Republican Party. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Diego Morales for your phone call this morning with the

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Speaker 1: important information regarding the new legislation on CFA one. Secretary

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Speaker 1: of Stint Morales has allowed those that weren't aware of

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Speaker 1: the changes a few more days to file your campaign

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Speaker 1: finance report.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't have the authority to do that. That would

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Speaker 5: be a change in legislation. He is either grossly misunderstands

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Speaker 5: election law or is simply pandering, or a combination thereof.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you know for sure this happened? I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously they put it out, they being the Sullivan County

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Speaker 1: Republican Party, But like, did he actually say that? Like

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Speaker 1: you just that's fine, just a couple more days, I'll

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Speaker 1: be fine.

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Speaker 5: So my first call when I first saw that was

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Speaker 5: to call the Sullivan County Clerk to give her heads

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Speaker 5: up on what was going on. She was aware of it.

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Speaker 5: She'd already made calls to Secretary of State's office, and

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Speaker 5: they did not deny that that was said.

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Speaker 3: So the Secretary of State's office themselves did not deny

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Speaker 3: that was said.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, there's nothing really that surprises us anymore

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Speaker 1: when it comes to Diego Morales, the Secretary of State.

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Speaker 1: But they are basically essentially admitting. It's not like they said, oh, David,

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Speaker 1: you get out of here. We never we never say that.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 1: They were basically admitting to you, Yeah, we just said

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Speaker 1: these people don't have to follow the law.

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Speaker 5: Well I'm getting that secondhand from the clerk there, but

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Speaker 5: that's what I was told.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's work through this because we're reasonable people here, right,

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Speaker 1: Casey trying to be all right.

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Speaker 3: A couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Ago, Connie Lawson and Eric Holcombe just waltzed out, kind

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Speaker 1: of lost in the former Secretary of State and Eric

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Speaker 1: Holcombe and just said, well, we're changing election day.

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Speaker 3: You remember that during COVID. I do remember that. Did

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Speaker 3: they have the power to do that? No?

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Speaker 5: That should have been an act of legislation.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm not the last one started to defend Diego.

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Speaker 2: But President, what's that there was precedent?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying, Like, I mean, if Diego's like, well,

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Speaker 1: these people just change the election day, can't I just

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Speaker 1: make up when you can file the form?

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Speaker 5: What should have been done? What should have been said,

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Speaker 5: is this incoming upon your local county election board? They

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Speaker 5: have the power of the authority to waive any kind

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Speaker 5: of fines and fees. Now, fees are not assessed from

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Speaker 5: twelve oh one pm on that Friday afternoon. You know,

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Speaker 5: you have to have a hearing.

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Speaker 3: You have to.

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Speaker 5: Determine which elected officials are delinquent on their filings and

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Speaker 5: then hold a public hearing at that time. Like the

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Speaker 5: way I handle it, in the way most people should

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Speaker 5: handle it is you notify the elected officials by mail,

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Speaker 5: notify I'm of an upcoming hearing, or you can say,

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Speaker 5: you know, here's five days, get right with the law

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Speaker 5: and we're done. It's over with. Or if you know,

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Speaker 5: continue to fail to file this report, then we will

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Speaker 5: look at, you know, assessing fines and fees.

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Speaker 1: So if I walked in, if I were an elected official,

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Speaker 1: like let's just say I still hadn't filed my form, right,

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Speaker 1: and I walked into my county office and said, well,

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Speaker 1: Morales said, it's fine.

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Speaker 3: Does that fly? Can I use that?

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Speaker 5: It doesn't fly? But I'll go back to what I

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Speaker 5: just said. You know, I have to have a hearing.

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Speaker 5: I can ask my election board a three member of

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Speaker 5: board two who waive the fines and fees, but you know,

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Speaker 5: they may see it. Otherwise, they may save the laws

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Speaker 5: of law. You know, ignorance is never an excuse to

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Speaker 1: David Shelton, he's the Indiana Kennedy for Indiana Secretary of State,

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Speaker 1: is our guest. All right, So you're obviously running for

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Speaker 1: secretary of state. You have seen Diego's campaign finance report

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Speaker 1: that came out. Many people are talking about it. Some

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Speaker 1: of the interesting donations. You have concerns about them.

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Speaker 5: Well, this is the out of state international ties to

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Speaker 5: everything is very concerning to me. You know, it's all

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Speaker 5: about election integrity. I'm concerned. To the secretary, election integrity

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Speaker 5: is simply a catchphrase. I don't think he knows what

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Speaker 5: it actually means. I live and I breathe it every

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Speaker 5: currently going after another one right now where it looks

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Speaker 5: like somebody voted twice in a twenty twenty election. I'm

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Speaker 5: also seeing other instances where in the past there's been

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Speaker 5: non citizens registered to vote in my county. It was

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Speaker 5: one particular case, he registered to vote in two thousand

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Speaker 5: and seven, voted in thirteen elections, and then in seventeen

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Speaker 5: April of twenty seventeen, his voter registration was canceled no explanation.

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Speaker 5: I can't just cancel somebody just because I want to.

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Speaker 5: There has to be document documented reasons why to do that.

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Speaker 3: They can't just throw me out from voting. They can't.

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Speaker 5: And what's really frustrating on this instance is, you know

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Speaker 5: he cancels the registration last voted in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 3: I just discovered it.

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Speaker 5: This last March statute of limitations has expired on that.

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Speaker 5: Because it's only a level six felony, I can't do

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Speaker 5: a thing about that. I feel like we in Indiana,

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Speaker 5: with our legislators and need to really take a serious

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Speaker 5: You know, our elections have been considered critical infrastructure for

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Speaker 5: a number of years. However, the laws don't reflect that.

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Speaker 5: If I went out and shot out a transformer during

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Speaker 5: catching more than a level sixth felony. And this is

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Speaker 5: really frustrating. We have to be serious about our elections,

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Speaker 5: our election integrity, because if the people do not have

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Speaker 2: Diego Morales recently signed in agreement with DHS. Can you

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Speaker 2: explain that what that means.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's another example of Diego taking a victory lap

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Speaker 5: on something that was a gimme. This is all related

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Speaker 5: to Trump's executive order from back in March Save Act.

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Speaker 3: Yes, part of that.

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Speaker 5: Well, it was the executive order and as a top

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Speaker 5: what it really means is it's a lot of extra

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Speaker 5: my office is going to verify everybody's citizenship.

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Speaker 3: No, that's not the case.

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Speaker 5: The truth is, when a non citizen gets driving privileges

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Speaker 5: here in Indiana, they can present anywhere from thirty five

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Speaker 5: to forty different forms of credentials. Okay, maybe a student visa,

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Speaker 5: green card, you can name it, a bunch of them.

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Speaker 5: When these people are issued a temporary credential is noted

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Speaker 5: to vote. Now, the BMV they don't register people to

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Speaker 5: So we then have to send a letter to these

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Speaker 5: the people have to present actual copies of documentation, whether

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Speaker 5: it be their student visa. I've got the form of

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Speaker 5: my pocket. I could read it off to you if you.

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Speaker 1: If you want to brought it with me. Hey, real quick,

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Speaker 1: because we're running sturt on of time here? Are we

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Speaker 1: wrong to our audience? The India trip stuff and the

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Speaker 1: lack of disclosure is a massive deal, and we just

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Speaker 1: kind of want to know what happened. But are we,

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Speaker 1: as our audience, are we the ones out in left

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Speaker 1: field on this by saying, hey, we really want to

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Speaker 1: know who paid for that trip and that you paid

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Speaker 3: I mean, you want to be the secretary of state.

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Speaker 1: Is it normal to travel in the way he's traveling

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Speaker 1: and doing what he's doing.

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Speaker 5: Are we wrong in my opinion? No, you're right on

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Speaker 5: the money right there. You want to know who's having

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Speaker 5: of Indiana. It's all about election integrity, real integrity. So

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Speaker 5: you need to know who he's going with, what he's doing,

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Speaker 5: why is he there, and what does it have to

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Speaker 3: David Shelton, he is running for Secretary of State.

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Speaker 1: We knew if anybody would understand this new election law

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Speaker 1: about reporting, it would be you, because I feel like

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Speaker 1: you could just recite the election code, like if I

443
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Speaker 1: just had start at paragraph one, page one, and you

444
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Speaker 1: could get all the way.

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Speaker 3: Through it, right.

446
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Speaker 5: I would like to finish up on the executive order

447
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Speaker 5: and the access with the DHS stuff there if you

448
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Speaker 5: have thirty seconds, all right, So you know they have

449
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Speaker 5: to provide actual documentations to us. The only form that

450
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Speaker 5: the citizens does not have to provide an actual document

451
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Speaker 5: to is if they're a naturalized citizen, then they can

452
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Speaker 5: provide us with simply their naturalization number. Only the naturalization

453
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Speaker 5: number is what the Secretary of State's office would be

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Speaker 5: able to confirm for us if we don't have the

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Speaker 5: actual document in hand.

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Speaker 3: So, long story short, he's not really doing he's.

457
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Speaker 5: Not really doing anything. He's taken a victory lap on

458
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Speaker 5: something that he's not even qualified for a participation trophy.

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Speaker 3: For all right, very good, David Shelton, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: It is Kendelly Casey on ninety three WIBC yo kind

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Speaker 2: of So.

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Speaker 1: I saw back open for you too at the Lucas Oil.

463
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Speaker 1: It was kind of an odd opening act.

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Speaker 6: It's a very random pairing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. See, keV is the musician,

466
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Speaker 1: and he backs me up on that. I was like,

467
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Speaker 1: that is I mean, kind of a one hit wonder,

468
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Speaker 1: although I think he had maybe two maybe he had

469
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Speaker 1: two songs that you know, and obviously that.

470
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Speaker 2: Was new Pollution was just out. I saw him when

471
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Speaker 2: he opened up for Third Eye Blind at the Stepping

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Speaker 2: Center on the campus of Notre Dame.

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Speaker 3: Tell me about the rest of the sixties, young lady.

474
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Speaker 2: Nobody knew who he was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So anyway, that's that's pretty Uh, that's pretty well

476
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Speaker 1: because like he did a whole set and most people

477
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Speaker 1: are like, yeah, we have no idea about any of

478
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Speaker 1: these songs, and then of course he did this that

479
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Speaker 1: was his big.

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Speaker 3: Hit, and then be like, oh yeah that song that

481
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Speaker 3: guy bring obono.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: My favorite thing about the YouTube concert was we were

484
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Speaker 1: we were sitting to where you could see this this

485
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Speaker 1: full stage we were on the side and so you

486
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Speaker 1: could actually see were high enough up, but we could

487
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Speaker 1: see around the stage and you could literally, basically in

488
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Speaker 1: real time see those guys.

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Speaker 3: After the show.

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Speaker 1: You could see the cars pull up behind the stage

491
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Speaker 1: with the open area, and you could basically just see

492
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Speaker 1: these guys sprinting to the airport as uh, you know,

493
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Speaker 1: as they count their pile of cash from you know,

494
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Speaker 1: an hour and a half.

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Speaker 3: It's worth of work.

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Speaker 2: Did you enjoy the show?

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Speaker 1: It was fine, I it was it was fine. I

498
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Speaker 1: just they those guys, they don't tour a whole lot,

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Speaker 1: and they certainly don't come to Indianapolis. Like when I

500
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Speaker 1: went to see the Rolling Stones, I just felt you

501
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Speaker 1: probably better do it. Yeah, it could be rorld's biggest

502
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Speaker 1: YouTube fan I've ever got.

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Speaker 2: I think I've seen them in concert more than anyone

504
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Speaker 2: you two, no kidding. Yeah, because back in the sixties, Rob,

505
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Speaker 2: we really enjoyed their music.

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Speaker 3: It was fine.

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Speaker 1: It's just it's like, I just like they they obviously

508
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Speaker 1: have some mega hits. I've just never felt like the

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Speaker 1: Youtwo song book as a collective was all that well.

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Speaker 6: I think you like the lyrics a lot, and I

511
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Speaker 6: think lyrically yeah, they aren't the most I mean, Bono

512
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Speaker 6: is not like a lyricist.

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Speaker 5: Really.

514
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Speaker 1: Remember when that stupid Vertigo song came out and they

515
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Speaker 1: paired up with the That was even before the iPhone,

516
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Speaker 1: it was the iPod or something, and it was everywhere

517
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Speaker 1: and oh, this song is great, and I'm like, it's

518
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Speaker 1: just him counting in Spanish.

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Speaker 3: Like what are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Bono and people want to think it's cool

522
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Speaker 1: because it's Bono, and I've just always thought he was

523
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Speaker 1: a weirdo and so I don't know, but I felt

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Speaker 1: like I should go because that way then I can

525
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Speaker 1: say nobody can hold over my head. Well you never

526
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Speaker 1: said you never saw YouTube?

527
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Speaker 6: Did they play Sunday Bloody Sun?

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Speaker 1: But they played all that. I mean, it was I

529
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Speaker 1: don't even know if there was an album. We've been

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Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 6: That was after they put their whole album on the iTunes?

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Speaker 3: Is that what they did?

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Speaker 6: It was like automatically on everyone's Yeah that's what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was there was no I don't remember

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Speaker 1: any new like these are the new songs. They were

536
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Speaker 1: just basically rolling through the hits, which is fine, that's

537
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Speaker 1: what everybody wants.

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Speaker 3: To see anyway, But yeah.

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Speaker 2: Would you see him?

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Speaker 3: Lucas Oil must have been a great show.

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Speaker 2: I mean they're they're I mean they're pretty good with

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Speaker 2: their stage.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, but you know how I feel about the

544
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Speaker 1: staging stuff, like I just want to see the dude

545
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Speaker 1: do the thing. Like I don't need some big light show.

546
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Speaker 1: I don't need some big catwalk. I don't need glitz

547
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Speaker 1: and glamour. I don't need fireworks. I don't need sparklers,

548
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Speaker 1: like I'm paying you to watch you do the thing. Now,

549
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Speaker 1: there's some light show element to any performance, but you know,

550
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Speaker 1: just shut up and well.

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Speaker 3: They just sing, I haven't found what I'm looking for.

552
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: Let's go. Come on, all right, let let's go.

553
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Speaker 6: They do have excellent stage presence, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Like the three man band bothers me though they're.

555
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Speaker 2: A four man band.

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Speaker 1: Four man Well, I'm saying like no, no, no, no, no

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Speaker 1: no no no. I'm saying like, but I'm saying like you, no, no, no,

558
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Speaker 1: there's a there's a guitar player, there's a bass player,

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Speaker 1: and then the front. I'm saying the front, like there's

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Speaker 1: no I just don't feel like there's a lot to there.

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Speaker 3: I mean they have a lot of sound.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because like you're used to Bruce, who has an

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Speaker 6: organ player.

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Speaker 3: I'm not counting the drummer. What's obviously it's Kevin.

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Speaker 2: He's not counting the drummer.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying in terms of the front stage presence, like

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Speaker 1: what they're presenting.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about Bono Edge and what's the other guy's named,

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Speaker 2: Larry Mullen.

570
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Larry Mullen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just didn't And because Bono doesn't really do anything,

572
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Speaker 1: he's not a contributor to the like he doesn't play

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Speaker 1: a guitar. He just wanders around right, kind of like

574
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Speaker 1: Mick Jagger was that way. But the Rolling Stones have

575
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Speaker 1: multiple even though it's Ron Wood and it's it's Richard's

576
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: and it was Charlie Watts who's no longer there, but

577
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Speaker 1: they have a bunch of other dudes.

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Speaker 3: They're playing stuff and you too.

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Speaker 2: It's just like the backup band. Yeah, just I think

580
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Speaker 2: the Edge has such a distinctive sound when he plays.

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Speaker 3: Oh you're one of those people. He's so cunning.

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Speaker 6: Well, he mastered the use of effects ground Break.

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Speaker 2: He was in the eighties. He looks cool and their

584
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Speaker 2: album Boy he looks cool. It was called new wave

585
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: back then. We called a new wave rom.

586
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Speaker 3: Even when it's under.

587
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: And he's always they were so cute.

588
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Speaker 3: He's so stoic when.

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Speaker 6: He Yeah, well, the edge used to have hair in

590
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Speaker 6: the eighties, right.

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Speaker 3: I think they all had hair at one point, they

592
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Speaker 3: all did. Yeah. Anyway, I don't even know. Why why

593
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Speaker 3: do we even get on you two? Oh?

594
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Speaker 2: Beck?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

596
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Speaker 6: Beck was the opener for YouTube and he saw them.

597
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: Sure, Beck led us to YouTube.

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00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah anyway, why not? It was something you wanted to

599
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Speaker 3: talk about. What was it? I don't even know what

600
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Speaker 3: it is.

601
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Speaker 2: Was it that Governor Brown wants Indiana to be a

602
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Speaker 2: national leader in nuclear energy?

603
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, that's very uplifting. What's the plan here?

605
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Speaker 3: What are we doing?

606
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 2: So there was this produced study. It identified eight coal

607
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Speaker 2: plants in Indiana that they say would be suitable for

608
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Speaker 2: conversion into small modular reactor plants.

609
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Speaker 1: So this is their new thing. They are all in

610
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Speaker 1: on these SMRs. Now, I believe there are very few,

611
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: if any, proven successful SMRs that are powering small cities

612
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Speaker 1: or anything like that. I mean, they act like this

613
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Speaker 1: is some sort of settled science, which clearly it must

614
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Speaker 1: not be based on the fact that they had to

615
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: specifically write the law to where that these utility companies

616
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Speaker 1: get eighty percent of the research money back whether they

617
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Speaker 1: succeed with it or not, and they're banking on this

618
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Speaker 1: as some full proof catch all. This is right around

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Speaker 1: the corner, and I haven't seen any verified.

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Speaker 3: Sign of that.

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Speaker 2: So the US Department of Energy currently funding some SMR projects.

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Speaker 2: They include New Scale and also Terra Power. But let's

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Speaker 2: talk about some of the challenges and the concerns right. Well,

624
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Speaker 2: obviously you've got licensing and regulation because nuclear regulatory frameworks

625
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: they're still being crafted. You've got the waste disposal. SMRs

626
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Speaker 2: generate radioactive weight, yes.

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Speaker 3: They do, Casey, So we've got some water would you

628
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Speaker 3: like that?

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Speaker 2: In year backyard discussions. There's obviously the economics, they're more expensive,

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Speaker 2: and you've got the public perception still people have a

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Speaker 2: lot of trust and safety concerns about this. But one

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Speaker 2: of the companies, New Scale, that I mentioned, they have

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Speaker 2: received US regulatory approval. They paused it because it was

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Speaker 2: costing too much money. And Terra Power, the other company

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Speaker 2: that is being funded by the US Department of Energy,

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Speaker 2: it's backed by Bill Gates.

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Speaker 1: One of the problems with well, I mean, there's many problems,

638
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Speaker 1: but one of the major problems with our general assembly

639
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Speaker 1: is you find them to be largely very uninquisitive people,

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Speaker 1: and they're mostly just doing whatever the leadership is telling

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Speaker 1: them to do, and so you don't get the deep

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00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: dive from the regular person. They just vote on whatever

643
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: is put in front of them, and so as a result,

644
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: there's no business plan on this. Like the average person

645
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: will be like, wait, we have to stop. We have

646
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Speaker 1: to stop getting in front of ourselves. And until we

647
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: have the plan and the proven plan and the verifiable

648
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: means to do this, we have to stop approving all

649
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Speaker 1: of these data centers and all of these other things

650
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: that are coming, you know, that are requiring all this power.

651
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: We simply don't have a proven methodology. They're just rushing

652
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: everything through and then going, yeah, we'll figure it out

653
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Speaker 1: as we going No, you won't figured out as you

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Speaker 1: go along. I mean, we've had data on this show.

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Speaker 1: What was there a news article that said that we

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Speaker 1: read where it was like one point five million homes

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Speaker 1: like one data centers, the equivalent of one point five

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Speaker 1: million homes one of these data centers. I mean a

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Speaker 1: staggering amount of power, and they don't have an answer

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Speaker 1: for it. These data centers, they're giving them the sweetheart deals,

661
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Speaker 1: so they're not financially. There's not a huge payoff financially

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Speaker 1: certainly not literally for generations. If you look at the

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Speaker 1: way the abatements and stuff are written, and so like

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Speaker 1: you say to yourself, what are we doing? Why are

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Speaker 1: we giving everything away? Why are we putting people in

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Speaker 1: this position? Why are we leveraging ourselves?

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Speaker 3: And for what? And they can't provide a clearance.

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Speaker 1: On this, and that's because the General Assembly is not

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Speaker 1: doing the homework. They're not being fighters. They're not going

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Speaker 1: in there and being the pushback that they need to be.

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Speaker 2: So the plants that were identified by this produced study

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Speaker 2: include Nipsco in Schaeffer, the Duke Entergy, you plant in Kyuga,

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Speaker 2: Duke Energy, Edwards Port, Aees and Petersburg. Who's your Energy?

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00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: Frank rats As Eagle Valley that's the one here in

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Speaker 2: central Indiana, Clifty Creek and also Indiana, Michigan Power in

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Speaker 2: rock Ports.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any confidence in the government to pull

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Speaker 3: this off?

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Speaker 2: Wait, you ask me again, and I'll tell you when

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Speaker 2: to stop.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any confidence in the government. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: The answer is no. Hey, let's talk about license plates

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Speaker 2: when we come back.

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Speaker 3: Oh, how excited there's a new license plate.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and I will ask you a question about why people.

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Speaker 3: Pay extra money for license plates.

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Speaker 2: It's Kendall and Case. It's ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're like, they're not they're not quite Is

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Speaker 1: it like the over hype overrated I'm listening now Here we.

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Speaker 3: Go, Here we Go for you? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Is that that is on the TV? On there?

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Speaker 1: So I would not have even recognized him? Holy smokes,

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Speaker 1: he was What was that show he was on?

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Speaker 3: What was the show about You? With Helen Hunt?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: Well, you talk about a guy you haven't said.

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Speaker 1: I have not seen him come to bag George I

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00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: taped Mad about You.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of a CAZy show.

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Speaker 2: You know what he's up to.

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00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 3: I don't know he's selling something.

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00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: Clearly there's a reason he's on the Drew.

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Speaker 3: There must be something. Okay. So, by the way, I

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Speaker 3: don't look.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you two is quite the overrated, over

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Speaker 1: hype level of the Beatles. But I mean, okay, what

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00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: are so? What are The Joshua Tree album was fine,

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Speaker 1: like what else.

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00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: Though, what do you mean what other albums?

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00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 3: Like what's Strolling Home?

712
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: Doctune?

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Speaker 5: Baby?

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Speaker 3: See the thing? You had to pause right there. You

715
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Speaker 3: had to think it through. It's not you know, it's

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Speaker 3: not just rolling off the top of your tongue.

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Speaker 2: Do you think who do you think had more hits?

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Speaker 2: You two or Bruce Springsteen? A're talking?

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Speaker 3: Are talking?

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Speaker 2: Are talking your radio hits?

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't judge people based on whether you can

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Speaker 1: do some snazzy tune to appeal to the lowest common denominator,

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Speaker 1: talking about.

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Speaker 3: Like who sold you know more albums? Who sold more keting?

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Speaker 2: I mean, not like the normal standard that the average

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Speaker 2: person would judge something on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like if you want to lower yourself to you know,

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Speaker 1: can I can I jam something into three minutes and

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Speaker 1: thirty seconds.

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Speaker 3: And just that's fine, Okay, good for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like I'm saying, how many for a for

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Speaker 1: a group that is disposedly international?

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Speaker 3: Mega?

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Speaker 1: You show up and you know you better be there.

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Speaker 1: Your life will be altered if you're not. How many?

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Speaker 1: I stillana looking for Sunday, bloody Sunday, what's the what's.

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Speaker 6: The beautiful day?

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Speaker 3: Right in the name of that's what I was.

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Speaker 2: Looking for in God's Country, with or without you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there's five five Your's Day said that, didn't we

741
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Speaker 1: did you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think said one?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, good one Kevin.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just always thought maybe because Bono was such a weirdo,

746
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Speaker 1: maybe that's it.

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Speaker 2: It's because you don't agree with his politics.

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Speaker 1: No, he comes off like an alien person you think,

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Speaker 1: so just doesn't. He doesn't come off as he doesn't.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like he humans like.

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Speaker 6: He's not someone you could grab a beer with.

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Speaker 1: He's not someone who's like endearing. I don't feel like

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Speaker 1: Bono understands my struggles. I think that's what it comes

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Speaker 1: down to. I don't feel like Bono understands my struggles.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure anyone understands your struggles. Well, let's be honest. Oh, desire.

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Speaker 2: There's another one.

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Speaker 3: It's going on with the license plate.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it's a blackout. It's the big thing, right,

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Speaker 2: the new design. Indiana officially unveiled the first all black

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Speaker 2: license plate.

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Speaker 3: It's all black with white lettering. Now, this is some

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Speaker 3: big deal.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand this at all. And it looked like

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Speaker 1: it just looks like it's a money generator. You got

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Speaker 1: to pay on the Capitol chronicle eight if you have

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Speaker 1: forty five dollars forty five additional if you want a

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Speaker 1: personalized plate, if you have one, now you can swap

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Speaker 1: your plate for nine to fifty correct, But then what

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Speaker 1: do you got to pay forty five every year? Why

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Speaker 1: would people give the government willfully more of their money.

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Speaker 2: Because well, that's what the whole design of it is

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Speaker 2: for a revenue impact, right, So out of the forty

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Speaker 2: five dollars, they expect that Indiana will generate three million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Why why would you It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: You already have to pay for the privilege of going

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Speaker 1: to work, which is what you're doing with a license plate.

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Speaker 2: Thirty four dollars going to the BMV Commission, seven dollars

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Speaker 2: going to the Motor Vehicle Highway Account, which is four

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00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: dollars and thirty four cents going to end Dot, two

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00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 2: dollars and sixty six cents going to local governments, and

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Speaker 2: four dollars going to the Crossroads two thousand fund.

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Speaker 1: It's like the mafia. Everybody gets a little taste, right,

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Speaker 1: like they've got it. They got it all split up

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Speaker 1: on who's gonna get one.

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Speaker 2: I want to be new, hip and current. You got

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Speaker 2: to get the black license plate.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't give wilfully the government seven cents.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Rob, Thank you Kevin, Thank you for listening today.

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Speaker 3: Sorry about you two. They're fine.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch you back here tomorrow. Is Kendall and Casey.

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Speaker 2: It's ninety three WIBC.