1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Why from the Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: Time for Iran to join us on a path that 4 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,200 Speaker 2: will complete what we're doing. 5 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 3: And if they join us, that'll be great. 6 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: If they don't join us, that'll be great too, but 7 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 2: it will be a very different path. They cannot continue 8 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: to threaten the stability of the entire region and they 9 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: must make a deal or if that does happen, I 10 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: maybe you can understand. 11 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 3: If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen, but bad things 12 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: will happen if it doesn't. Now, I'm here to tell you. 13 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 4: That we're hearing about a possible war action with Iran 14 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 4: as early as this weekend. And I'm telling you I 15 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 4: have no idea what possibly they're going to hit, because 16 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 4: I I'm going to walk you through where I'm at. 17 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 4: And if I take a look at military targets and 18 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: military conversations with its hits from the United States and 19 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 4: with the two aircraft carriers we have in the region, 20 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 4: I don't see. 21 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 3: What we've done to thwart. 22 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 4: To thwart the Ayatola, to thwart the IRGC, to stop 23 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 4: them from abusing the people. 24 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: There's only one hit that I think works. 25 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 4: Tony Katz Tony kats today, Good to be here, good 26 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 4: to be with you. Find everything at Tony Katz dot com. Also, 27 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 4: the Governor of Indiana, Mike Bronze, scheduled to be with 28 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 4: us with this announcement that this is a serious happening, 29 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 4: the Chicago Bears possibly coming to Indiana, your Pritzker, and 30 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 4: you lose the Bears, Yeah, but they're still gonna be 31 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 4: called Chicago and I have got that story. Well, we'll 32 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 4: hear what the governor says, and remember, ain't nothing done 33 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 4: until it's done. What is done is that the message 34 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 4: has gone forth and the full on rehabilitation of Representative 35 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 4: Acossio Cortes is going forward. And you say to me, 36 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 4: for what reason would you be trying to rehabilitate representative 37 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 4: of Cassio Cortes. 38 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: A Cassio Cortes failed epically. 39 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 4: In Munich, and so much so that everybody's talking about 40 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 4: it and rallying to her defense. The people over there 41 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 4: at I think it's New York Magazine, right, Alexandria at 42 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 4: Cassio Cortez's appearance at the Munich Security Conference, one of 43 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 4: the world's premier foreign policy events, seem to be a 44 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: step in the direction of higher office. It was supposed 45 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 4: to be a triumphant FIGN visit for Casio Cortez, who is, 46 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 4: on the national level, the best current hope for the 47 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 4: American left. She's the best. She's the best current hope 48 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 4: for the political left. Which is an admission from New 49 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 4: York Magazine that, of course that today's American Left are 50 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: marxistem It's an admission. They're not Democrats. That's not what 51 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: they are. Though she acquitted herself well in a majority 52 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: of interviews and panels in Munich. 53 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: Is that right? Is that right? If you say so? 54 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: It continues. 55 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 4: One stumble stood out question directly about whether the US 56 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 4: should send troops to defend Taiwan in the event of 57 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 4: a Chinese invasion. She stalled for about twenty seconds. Now, 58 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 4: if you did not hear what it is that Representative 59 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 4: Cassio Cortes said. 60 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: What she said was, well, you know, Taiwan thing. 61 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 4: It was really bad. It was brutal, and it was 62 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 4: so brutal. It was so obvious to everyone that she 63 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 4: failed to be able to answer the question because she 64 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 4: had never once thought of the question. Because to have 65 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 4: this kind of foreign policy understanding, Well, take study. It 66 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 4: would take actually being somebody who is aware of the 67 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: world around them and their surroundings, and doing more than 68 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: just being somebody who is speaking in sloganeering and emojis. 69 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 4: To the political left, this was the question and the answer, Should. 70 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: The US actually commit US troops to defend Taiwan if 71 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 3: China were to move? 72 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 5: You know, I think that this is such a you. 73 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: Know, I think that this is a. 74 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 5: This is of course, a very long standing policy of 75 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 5: the United States, and I think what we are hoping 76 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 5: for is that we want to make sure that we 77 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 5: never get to that point, and we want to make 78 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 5: sure that we are moving in all of our economic research, 79 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 5: in our global positions to avoid any such confrontation. And 80 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 5: for that question to even arise. 81 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 4: Yes, but what happens if they invade? You want to 82 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 4: avoid it? Sure, what happens if they invade? She was 83 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: not prepared for it. She was not prepared for real questions. Now, 84 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 4: as I have said, As I have said, this doesn't 85 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 4: stop her from running for president, This doesn't stop the 86 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 4: progressive from voting for her. 87 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: Not in the slightest. 88 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 4: You'd be out of your mind if you. 89 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: Thought that was the case. She is going to run. 90 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 4: She is going to be successful because her people don't 91 00:06:54,440 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 4: require answers, they require Trump bad, they require her simple 92 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: basic slogan earring. And while I have called her stupid 93 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 4: because she is, she's not dumb. She is still wildly popular. 94 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 4: She is still absolutely social media popular, and she is 95 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 4: going to be formidable when she runs, Which brings us 96 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 4: to this, uh, what do you call it? A circling 97 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 4: of the wagons. There is a circling of the wagons, 98 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 4: and you're seeing more and more people in media try 99 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 4: and come to her aid. In this story over at 100 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 4: New York Magazine, I thought this headline was a little interesting. 101 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 4: This cover story AOC's Munich stumbles a warning to the left, 102 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 4: And so the author Ross Barkin b A. Rkn who 103 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 4: I do not know, is saying that if you're going 104 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: to run for president, you're gonna be. 105 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: Able to handle some of these things. You have to 106 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: be able to get. 107 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 4: These foreign policy questions correct, because it's more than just 108 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: about whether or not you are placating your base in 109 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 4: the US. 110 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: The world is watching. 111 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 4: The world is watching, and if they don't believe they 112 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 4: can trust or have faith in you, protecting Taiwan from China. 113 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 4: They are gonna say, so pressure will be applied. Some 114 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: might say, well, what do we care about Taiwan, That's 115 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 4: not our concern. They get invented, they get invaded. That's 116 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 4: a really bad idea. Anytime you have a growing China, 117 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 4: you've got yourself a serious issue. You want China to 118 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: have control of the Taiwan straight You want them to 119 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: have control of Taiwan's semiconductor You want to then see 120 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 4: what they decide to control next, what they do to 121 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 4: shipping lanes in the area. You want China being the 122 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 4: dictator of the navigable seas. You want that pressure on 123 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: Japan and South Korea and Australia. 124 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: One of the things that I think we've learned, or 125 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 3: we should have learned, is that this idea that you know, 126 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 3: we don't want to be the world's policeman, I think 127 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: is a legitimate statement we don't want all of this. 128 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 3: But I think that some people started to learn that 129 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: maybe those neocons they at least had a kernel. 130 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 4: Of an idea, and the kernel of the idea is 131 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 4: you can't just walk away from everything. Now, maybe we 132 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 4: could walk away from something, you know, we're pulling troops 133 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 4: out of Syria. Pulling the troops out of Syria. I 134 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 4: think this is a very interesting move. I'm not saying 135 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 4: that the Syrian government now is this great thing. You 136 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 4: could argue it's better than but Charles sad. But these 137 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: are people who are former Isis. But they have been very, 138 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 4: very helpful in catching terrorists and thwarting terrorist activities, so 139 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 4: much so that we have seen reductions and sanctions. Now 140 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 4: we're pulling US troops. As long as these people don't 141 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 4: go after the Jeruz community Druze. 142 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: Hey, Syria will. 143 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 4: Never be US, it will never be a liberty based society. 144 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 3: Right will never be a republic. But sometimes you get 145 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 3: the best that you can get. 146 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 4: But maybe there's something to be said for having relationships, 147 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 4: and maybe there's something to be said for Yes, it 148 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 4: costs us some money here and it costs some money there, 149 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 4: but it's better than the violence alternative. 150 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: I think Trump has come to this. I think that 151 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 3: there are people on the right in Magaville who have 152 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 3: come to this understanding, and this understanding is that the 153 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 3: world is still making moves and we are getting tested. 154 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 4: Twenty four to seven. I argue that they have to 155 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 4: get tested. Senator Tom Cotton said something super smart regarding Iran. 156 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: They've never won a ward they had, they're never fighting. 157 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 4: But man, are they great negotiators because they seem to 158 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 4: get what they want and they never actually engage a fight. 159 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 4: They throw drones at Israel. Don't get me wrong. People 160 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 4: got hurt and they can throw a lot of drones 161 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 4: at Israel. And I don't think we should be engaged 162 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 4: in thinking that Israel should only be involved in some 163 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 4: defensive thing. Well they've got ironed down, they've blocked and 164 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 4: it was fine. Oh hell no, no, no, no, no, no, 165 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 4: that's crazy. I would never ever just think that these 166 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 4: people who want a nation to be destroyed, they would 167 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 4: say that you gotta be able to understand the world 168 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 4: around you. That is extremely important. Trump understands the world 169 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 4: around him. Oh they can lambast him, and the Left 170 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 4: can hate them all all they want, it doesn't matter. 171 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: All this talk about Greenland. 172 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 4: Europe is thrilled that the United States is right now 173 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 4: trying to get greenlands because they know if they do, 174 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 4: it's better for them than having the Russians or the 175 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 4: Chinese having pieces of greenland. Everyone in Europe will sleep better. 176 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: No matter how much they complain or moan or canvetch 177 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: your bitch, it won't matter. That's the real world. 178 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 4: The world knows how dangerous it is. And what Representative 179 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 4: Acasia Cortez said is, I don't know how dangerous the 180 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 4: world is. I've never thought of these things. And for 181 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: New York Magazine to say it was a stumble, well, 182 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 4: putting her on the cover is very, very important. And 183 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 4: while the rest of media is trying to talk about 184 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: how well she did, she didn't do well. She didn't 185 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 4: do well. She doesn't have the mind. That doesn't mean 186 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 4: that back in the States, she doesn't have the potential votes. 187 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 4: She's running, she is positioning herself to run. You will 188 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 4: doubt her and ignore her and dismiss her at your 189 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: own peril. I'm not about to She ain't bright, but 190 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 4: she ain't dumb. The world may be concerned, but you're 191 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 4: not gonna get left wing Marxists from the university set. 192 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 3: To care. 193 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 4: We've got real issues ahead of us. And this, even 194 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 4: if the left is noticing, it doesn't stop others from 195 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 4: trying to insulate her from any criticism. 196 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: On Tony Katz, this is Tony Katz today. 197 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 2: I thought this would be easy because I have a 198 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: very good relationship with President Putin. I have a very 199 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: good relationship with President she I'm going to be going 200 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: to China and aport it's going to. 201 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 3: Be that's going to be a wild one. 202 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: I said, but we have to put on the biggest 203 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: display you've ever had in the history of China. You know, 204 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: the last time I went to China, President she treated 205 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 2: me so well. He gave me a display. I never 206 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: saw so many soldiers all the same height, exactly the 207 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: same height, within a quarter of an inch. You can 208 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: do that when you have one point four billion people, 209 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: you know, lots of shoulders. Everybody was went about one 210 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: eighth of an inch the same height. I said, if 211 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 2: they put their helmets down, you could have played pool 212 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: on the top of their heads. 213 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: And it was pretty amazing. But I said, you got. 214 00:14:58,920 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 6: To top it. 215 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: He said, I'll top it. We're going to top it. 216 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: We're going to have a lot of the people, most 217 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: of the fake news back there is going to be 218 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 2: going what is happening? 219 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 4: This is part of his commentary as he meets with 220 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 4: the Board of Peace. 221 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 3: Tony Katz Tony Katz today, Oh he is he is 222 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: the gift that keeps on giving. 223 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 4: The board of piece is is this group that has 224 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 4: come together to figure out, Hey, what do we do 225 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 4: about Kazam, how do we engage a rebuilding here of Gaza, 226 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 4: How do we go about creating a better society, How 227 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 4: do we allow for the end of the terrorism. Jared 228 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,119 Speaker 4: Kushner spoke at the event. 229 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 7: We cannot change the past, but I think that what 230 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 7: you're seeing today is that we can potentially change the 231 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 7: future if we focus and do this. 232 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 3: In the right way. 233 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 7: We try to structure this meeting like a proper board 234 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 7: meeting like we do in the private sector, where we 235 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 7: have all the preparation, We get the right people together, 236 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 7: and we really report on what our challenges are, what 237 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 7: the opportunities are, and what are the approaches. What you've 238 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 7: seen today is just a small sample of the work 239 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 7: that's been done, and I really want to thank the 240 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 7: entire team that's worked so hard at this. A lot 241 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 7: of these people are volunteers. They're doing this not for 242 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 7: any personal gain. People are not personally profiting from this. 243 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 7: They are really doing this for their children and for 244 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 7: their grandchildren and because they want to see peace. 245 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 4: Now, I'm going to say Jared Kushner, just so we 246 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 4: can just get it out of the way. Some people 247 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 4: are going to personally profit from this, just so we 248 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 4: all understand it. We don't have to question it, we 249 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 4: don't have to act shocked when it occurs. Some people 250 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 4: are going to personally profit from this. But I think 251 00:16:55,760 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: that as this is is, as this is forming, is 252 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 4: that there's going to be people who mock this, people 253 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 4: who try and mock Trump. 254 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 3: For for putting this together. 255 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 4: Uh, there were protesters outside and uh there this is 256 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 4: the border piece trying to figure out how to bring 257 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 4: create a better Gaza, And they're all in. 258 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 3: Their cafeas and they've got quite. 259 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 4: Literally they created their own dismember Donald Trump. That's that 260 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 4: is exactly who the left is, you know, I. 261 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 3: Mean, this is it. 262 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 4: I mean it's it isn't it's it's not a piece 263 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 4: of art by any stretch of the imagination, but there 264 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 4: it is. It's it's it's an effigy of President Trump 265 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 4: and covered in blood. And you can see people standing 266 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 4: around wearing cafeas. Isn't Aren't the people of Gaza better 267 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 4: off not having hamas and having investment and being able 268 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 4: to grow without having to playcate or hide or bow 269 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 4: down to terrorists. Isn't that better for all of us? 270 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 4: Because it's better for all of us? How could you 271 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: think otherwise? It's not better for Americans. It's ten thousand 272 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 4: percent better for Americans. It goes without saying that it's 273 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 4: better for Americans. And you would have to be the 274 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 4: biggest fool in the world to think that it wasn't 275 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 4: better for Americans. You would have to be out of 276 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 4: your mind dumb to think that somehow Americans wouldn't be 277 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 4: better off if there were no terrorists and no terrorist 278 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 4: threats coming from Iran through their proxy Hamas in Gaza. 279 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 3: Certainly better for the Middle East. 280 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 4: It's better for relations, it's better for trade, it's better 281 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 4: for a whole host of things. 282 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 3: It just is. It cannot be said enough. It just is. 283 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 4: I've got a lot more to get to, including the 284 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 4: Governor of Indiana, Mike Brown, scheduled be with us. Let's uh, we're. 285 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 3: Gonna see the Chicago Bears come to Indiana. 286 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 4: Study gots today. So when the subject first came up 287 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 4: of the Chicago Bears coming to Indiana, right, they couldn't 288 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 4: create a deal to get them the stadium. They wanted 289 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 4: in Chicago in Arlington Heights. So they're like, well, we'll 290 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 4: take a look at Indiana, and Indiana said I think rightfully, so, well, 291 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 4: that's interesting to us. Northwest Indiana, Chicago land area. We've 292 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 4: got space, and a town called Gary put in their plan, 293 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 4: and a town called Hammond put in their plan, and 294 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 4: then later on a town called Portage put in their plan. 295 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 4: And the state went about trying to say, hey, we 296 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 4: can make this happen, and you're gonna save so much 297 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 4: money for your team by being in Indiana versus being 298 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: in Illinois. 299 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 3: But there's got to be some investments. And that has 300 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: been my point. 301 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 4: That I don't think any stadium deal can come if 302 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 4: the Bears are not gonna have some skin in the game. 303 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 4: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 304 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 4: The governor of Indiana, Mike Brown, joins me right now. 305 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 4: He's in DC for the Republican Governors meet up there 306 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 4: the RGA and then he'll be meeting with all the 307 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 4: governors and. 308 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: President Trump over the weekend. And sir, this has been 309 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 3: a it's been a back and forth thing. 310 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: And when you're talking about NFL teams moving their site 311 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 4: and the place where they play. It's a big deal. 312 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 4: So let's start with where we are. What is it 313 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 4: that got passed today from the House Ways and Means 314 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 4: Committee here in the Indiana General Assembly? 315 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 3: And where do you think this takes us? 316 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 6: So I'll get to that, but I want to tell 317 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 6: you the context of three years where the Bears had 318 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 6: been dealing with their own state and their own city 319 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 6: and mostly they got the cold shoulders. So we actually 320 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 6: started this conversation before it was even a public issue, 321 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 6: to do make sure we were doing all the due 322 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 6: diligence and towhere it had to be done without much 323 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 6: public discussion, and that all crossed the threshold when they 324 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 6: made their statement in terms of how far we're along. 325 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 6: And yes, we did what needed to be done in 326 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 6: our own state government to make that we were never 327 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 6: going to be holding it up or an impediment to it. 328 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 6: Blessing for me is building a business over thirty seven years. 329 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 6: I understood the dynamic being governor to have to kind 330 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 6: of orchestrate it. We weren't going to do anything that 331 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 6: jeopardized their own due diligence. But it is now publicly 332 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 6: in a place where some are saying it's a done deal. 333 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 6: It's a big move from where it would have been 334 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 6: just weeks ago when they were still saying this is 335 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 6: a bargaining position from the point of the bearers wanting 336 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 6: to work something out. 337 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: So let me I think I. 338 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 6: Saw today where the state legislature didn't make a move 339 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 6: on doing anything, and that's public. So these are a 340 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 6: lot of things starting to drop. 341 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 3: After Indian animate its move. 342 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 4: It seems that the Illinois Legislature decided not to have 343 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 4: their meeting about this. 344 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 3: But you talked about this has been in the works. 345 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 4: Was this something that started after you became governor or 346 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 4: did this start before your term began? 347 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 6: I think from my kind of recall of the timeline, 348 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 6: this has been off and on as a discussion in 349 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 6: terms of the what are the Bears going to do? 350 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 6: They definitely did. They got a lease remaining at Soldiers 351 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 6: Field and Arlington Heights, of course, is what you heard about, 352 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 6: and that's where everybody thought it was going to go. 353 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 6: Probably four to five months ago though that wasn't working out. 354 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 6: They weren't seeing anything happening in Chicago from the state legislature. 355 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 6: That's when discussions behind the scenes started occurring and all 356 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 6: I can tell you is we were engaging. We were 357 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 6: never the hold up, and it actually moved pretty quickly 358 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 6: from that point to where. 359 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 4: We are now talking to the Governor of Indiana, Mike 360 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 4: Brawn about the possibility of the Chicago Bears moving to Indiana. Now, 361 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 4: as I understand it, they would play their games in Indiana, 362 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 4: new stadium in Indiana. But they're still just call themselves Chicago. 363 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 4: There's still all Chicago. They're still going to be based 364 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 4: in Chicago, or are they talking about bringing team operations 365 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 4: to Indiana. 366 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 6: So I think they've gotten a pretty good glimpse of 367 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 6: what the difference of being a business in Indiana would 368 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 6: be compared to the state, and they've been domiciled in 369 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 6: so my thinking is going to be obviously a stadium 370 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 6: and all the things you're generally getting around it, all 371 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 6: the ancillary economic benefits, and they're going to probably be 372 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 6: poised to move as much logistically that makes sense into 373 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 6: a state that's going to be easier to have a 374 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 6: business in. And those details aren't fleshed out. We're just 375 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 6: getting the stuff we know we need to get done 376 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 6: with the due diligence they have to do to where 377 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 6: it just cascaded to a point where many are surprised. 378 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 6: Of course, I've got folks saying it is a gun deal. 379 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 6: It's not that, but it's moved a long way. 380 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 4: So now we see that this is possible, we see 381 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: that they're talking about it openly, that they are open 382 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 4: to the concept. 383 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 3: Let's talk about. 384 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 4: The money, sir, because there's a real argument about what 385 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 4: these things cost and what they cost. Who's your taxpayers, right, 386 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 4: the people of Indiana and every state. Anytime they deal 387 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 4: with the pro team and oh, they need a new stadium, 388 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 4: and here they have billions of dollars, but they never 389 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 4: put up any money, and we're the ones who end 390 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 4: up paying for the stadium. My argument has been that 391 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 4: I am fine with the ancillary things as we discuss them. 392 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 4: I'm fine with off ramps, I'm fine with new highways, 393 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 4: these infrastructure things that will be huge for us. But 394 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 4: there has to be some in the game. The Chicago 395 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 4: Bears have to write a check. In the conversation that 396 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 4: we're having now about a possible stadium, do the Chicago 397 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 4: Bears write a check for their own stadium? 398 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 6: So when you get into those details, I'm not going 399 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 6: to discuss them publicly, but oh, you can tell you this. 400 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 6: This is one where you can look very closely in 401 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 6: terms of a general model of what we did with 402 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 6: the cults. And of course all of the things you 403 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 6: just said in a fairly sharp summary will be part 404 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 6: of that discussion. And yes, skin in the game is 405 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 6: something that I think is going to be part of this. 406 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 6: How you extrapolate economic benefits into it? How much this 407 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 6: means in terms of economic developments, which gets into that 408 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 6: cash flow projection. I think things have worked out well 409 00:26:55,359 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 6: in our own state capital economic development wise, there's just 410 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 6: as much, if not more leverage to help an area 411 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 6: that needs it, which would be the region and especially 412 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 6: that hamm and the Gary area. So skin in the 413 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 6: game you like that? I like that, And as we 414 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 6: get to the final deal working through due diligence, that'll 415 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 6: be part of what we're fleshing out. 416 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 4: I have seen where there are reports that the Bears 417 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 4: will be upwards of two billion dollars in Can you 418 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 4: give us any inkling of not even the dollar amounts. 419 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 4: But yes, indeed the Chicago Bears, if they come to Indiana, 420 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 4: will indeed have skin in the game. 421 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 6: I'll tell you this much. When they can factor in 422 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 6: the amount of property tax savings that they will receive 423 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 6: at the level they're at in Indiana versus at the 424 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 6: extreme level they are where they're currently at. That's part 425 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 6: of how they're viewing this. And yes, not going to 426 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 6: give you an amount, but there's going to be skin 427 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 6: in the game. That's all part of what we're working out. 428 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 6: But one of the main factors would be the business climate. 429 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 6: They're going to be here for a good while if 430 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 6: and when they make the move, and that's factoring into 431 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 6: it heavily. 432 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 4: Talking to the Governor of Indiana, Mike Brown, this possibility 433 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 4: of the Chicago Bears putting a stadium in Indiana playing 434 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 4: in Indiana, you know, I don't think, sir, knowing you 435 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 4: the little bit that I do, that you take a 436 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 4: look at Illinois and you say, poor baby. Being able 437 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 4: to steal this from Illinois has got to feel pretty 438 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 4: freaking awesome. Have you spoken with Governor J. B. Pritzker 439 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 4: of Illinois about this? 440 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 6: No? I have not, And I think the real issue is, oh, 441 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 6: I wasn't he in the Maryora of Chicago speaking to 442 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 6: the Bears and just here the RGA today we were 443 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 6: talking about the good news of being in Indiana or 444 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 6: our GDP growth is twice that of Illinois, three times 445 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 6: out of Kentucky's, five times out of Michigan. That's all 446 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 6: due to the context, the climate, the regulation, all of that. 447 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 6: That's why people are voting with their feet in many cases, businesses, families, 448 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 6: and even large entities like the Bearers. So we highlighted 449 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 6: that among many states where we're benefiting across the country. 450 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 6: This is just another example of it. 451 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,959 Speaker 3: Is there anything in this deal that for you is 452 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: a no if? 453 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 4: Is there anything that has to be done, Like if 454 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 4: this does not part of this deal, I'm not going 455 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 4: to approve this. 456 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 3: This isn't happening. 457 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 4: Do you have Governor Brown a redline regarding the Bears 458 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 4: and a stadium in northwest Indiana. 459 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 6: So all I can tell you is is how it's 460 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 6: evolved to where it is now. It's based upon some 461 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 6: mutual things that we've agreed to, and if any of 462 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 6: that would change along the lines of some of what 463 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 6: we've talked about, that would put a pause on it. 464 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 6: Nothing at this point because we've been methodical, We've been 465 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 6: working on this now you can see for many months. 466 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 6: This is just the first cascade. The first threshold to 467 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 6: where they were publicly out there with a statement that 468 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 6: gave us the confidence because we wanted that to be 469 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 6: coming if we were going to do what we did 470 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 6: in our own state legislature. So it would have to 471 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 6: be something that is not currently been part of our discussions. 472 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 6: That is why I'm careful not to get ahead of 473 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 6: our skis. But it's been a conversation in good faith 474 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 6: with an honest broker on both sides of the deal. 475 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 3: What what is the next hurdle? 476 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 4: What is the thing that when people see it they 477 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 4: could say, my gosh, this is moving in a direction 478 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 4: of happening, just so we can be on the lookout. 479 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 6: Well, there would be always things with the real estate 480 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 6: that you're looking at. Most of that has been done, 481 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 6: a few minor things need to still get done, just 482 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 6: the things that you need to do on any major 483 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 6: transaction to make sure you've crossed your keys and dotted 484 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 6: your eyes. That is kind of where we're at. And 485 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 6: all I can tell you is we were real We've 486 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 6: been ahead of it in every way we needed to be, 487 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 6: and we wanted to make sure that the culminating factor 488 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 6: to get to this point was if we do the legislation. 489 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 6: They're firmly committed to moving forward along the lines of 490 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 6: what I've described. 491 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 3: And you feel that they are fairly committed to moving forward. 492 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: I am yes, Governor Mike Brown. 493 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 4: I appreciate you taking the time to be with us, 494 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 4: the governor of Indiana, Sir, A pleasure. More is coming up. 495 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 4: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz. Today, my morning 496 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 4: show producer had a very good point, and his. 497 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 3: Point was nothing exists in a vacuum. 498 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 4: He took a look at a story out of California 499 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 4: where gas prices are going up, and you know, gas 500 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 4: prices have been going down. President Trump is absolutely allowed 501 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 4: to crow about that gas prices are down, Egg prices 502 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 4: are down. You need beef prices to come down. That's 503 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 4: what you need. That's why he created the deal with Argentina. 504 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 4: I don't know if that one hundred percent is going 505 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 4: to work or not. The story Tony Katz, Tony kats today, 506 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 4: these prices need to come down, and then he has 507 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 4: to do something about car insurance and health insurance and 508 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 4: at least be addressing these things. 509 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 3: Note that they're happening, and they've done a much. 510 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 4: Better job of how to engage with the American people 511 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 4: on these subjects. They were failing at this in November 512 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 4: December when we were talking about it. They've learned these lessons. 513 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 4: They're getting much better at it, and at the right time. 514 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 4: And still it doesn't mean that the midterms are showing 515 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 4: for them. It's gonna be a difficult road. I'm saying 516 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 4: there's absolutely a path, and all of the gnashing of 517 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 4: the teeth and clutching of the pearls saying it's over 518 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 4: for Republicans. This is February and the elections in November, 519 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 4: and a lot of time is between now and then. 520 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 3: People need to breathe. They need to breathe. 521 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 4: Also, I remember when they told me that Kamala Harris 522 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 4: was ahead of Donald Trump and Iowa before the twenty 523 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 4: twenty four election. I remember when they told me that 524 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 4: Hillary Clinton had it in the bag. So I don't 525 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 4: listen to those people. 526 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: I'm taking a look at data, and I'm taking a 527 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 3: look at the world, and I've got I could see 528 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 3: the path. I'm gonna be discussing it. 529 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 4: February twenty eighth, tickets dot Tony Katz dot com. 530 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 3: Trump. 531 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 4: One year and one month later, it's gonna be such 532 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 4: a good night with the bourbon and the food everything else. 533 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,239 Speaker 4: I just want you there. I cannot wait. I think 534 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 4: ticket sales end this week. It's gonna be amazing. Tickets 535 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 4: dot Tony Kats dot com can't wait. It's gonna be 536 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 4: so good. I want to see you there. Come on 537 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 4: down to Indianapolis. It'll be terrific, high regency. It's trust 538 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 4: me on the bourbon too. I know what I'm doing. 539 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 3: It's gonna be fantastic. But my producer Carl in the 540 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 3: Morning show, he said, you know, you see these gas 541 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 3: prices going up in California, and you got to ask 542 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 3: yourself why that's happening. And it's happening because a refinery shutdown. 543 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 3: And you know, if you've been paying any attention that 544 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 3: we don't have enough refineries in the United States. 545 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 4: It's been a problem for years. One refinery has an issue, 546 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 4: next thing you know, gas prices are are up, and 547 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 4: you've got issues everywhere. We don't have enough refineries. It's 548 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 4: been a problem for forever. His point was, if you 549 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 4: take the refineries in California and you start saying that 550 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,959 Speaker 4: they're having problems, and you start seeing them shut down, 551 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 4: for a week here, three weeks there, something like that. 552 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,320 Speaker 4: Now they're pulling gas from other spots. Supply and demand, 553 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 4: gas prices go up. And is this a tactic that 554 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 4: gets used to try and show the American populace gas 555 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 4: prices are up. Trump can't handle the economy. Put the 556 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 4: Democrats in charge. Is it all play now? Whether or 557 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 4: not I think Gaven Neuwsom has control over refineries, well, 558 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 4: that's a different subject. Is it enough of a well, 559 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 4: that's an interesting thought to make me watch it. I'm 560 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 4: not a conspiratorial guy, but yeah. 561 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 3: I'll watch it. And we need more refineries. This is 562 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 3: toty catch today.