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Speaker 1: You're listening to the best of the Fan Morning Show

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Speaker 1: on ninety three five and one oh seven five the Fan.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, everyone, Welcome into a Friday at the Fan

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Speaker 2: Morning Show. And we talked about a little bit the

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Speaker 2: top of the show. For those just joining us. I

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Speaker 2: think we're all feeling these very conflicted things. We talk

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Speaker 2: about this new day and age of sports where uh

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Speaker 2: players are getting millions of dollars in college sports, god

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Speaker 2: bless them, whatever, but they're all transferring from year to year,

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Speaker 2: and do people stay, do they leave? Do they go

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Speaker 2: somewhere else? And we're kind of wrapping our brains around that.

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Speaker 2: And here in Indiana where we've always been ultra competitive

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Speaker 2: in basketball, particularly professional basketball, where the Pacers always find

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Speaker 2: a way to outperform expectations, right and maybe not have

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Speaker 2: won that title yet, but they always are there fighting

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Speaker 2: it out, and they always.

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Speaker 3: Put together a team that's that's fighting out.

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Speaker 2: And now they're actively trying not to win basketball games,

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Speaker 2: not the players themselves. The players they go out, they're

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Speaker 2: playing to your point, James, they're playing for jobs next year, right,

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Speaker 2: they got what.

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Speaker 4: The ones playing yesterday they have trying to audition for

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Speaker 4: the rest of the league.

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Speaker 2: Right, But Kevin, you were talking about the fact that

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Speaker 2: that ankle injury suffered by Nie Smith last night. In

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Speaker 2: most cases, you spit on it, you rub some dirt

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Speaker 2: on it, and you send him back out there. Right now,

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Speaker 2: it could be a week ten days before we see

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Speaker 2: him again.

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Speaker 5: Well, the Andrew Nemhard thing was probably the most egregious

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Speaker 5: of last night. If you wanted to see endgame tanking.

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Speaker 5: And again, what was the final turnover number? Had to

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Speaker 5: be north of twenty There was a million of them

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Speaker 5: last night for the Pacers. So in one of your

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Speaker 5: highest turnover games of the season.

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Speaker 6: You're twenty three KB. I mean, that's an absurd number.

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Speaker 5: Your point guard leaves with five minutes ago in the

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Speaker 5: third quarter, doesn't re enter the game.

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Speaker 2: But is that the kind of thing that the commissions

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Speaker 2: talking about, where he's gonna find you again?

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Speaker 5: Well, see, I mean, you know, obviously the Jazz had

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Speaker 5: some of that that they did. Now again, the Jazz

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Speaker 5: were multiple offenders, and I guess the Pacers are now

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Speaker 5: an offender in the NBA you know's eyes. So yeah,

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Speaker 5: it just I watched last night frankly just not discussed

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Speaker 6: Of course, the situation you have to play the game.

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Speaker 5: But I'm just so glad that tonight at eight o'clock

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Speaker 5: there is actually a game in our state that matters

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Speaker 5: in basketball, and I don't have to fake watch Pacers

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Speaker 4: Well, I do know that will certainly be on all

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Speaker 4: of our screens I think later today, and that is

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Speaker 4: a game. Like you said, Kevin, that you have to

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Speaker 4: tape the eyeballs open and watch. But in regards to

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Speaker 4: the tanking, this is what Sean Sarani reported from ESPN,

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Speaker 4: and he mentioned yesterday that Commissioner Adam Silver informed the

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Speaker 4: league's thirty general managers on Thursday that the NBA plans

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Speaker 4: to make anti tanking rule changes for next season. So

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Speaker 4: this necessarily would not affect the Pacers because of where

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Speaker 4: they are right now in the standing and where they

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Speaker 4: are for perhaps the upcoming draft to get a top

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Speaker 3: Not affect them.

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Speaker 4: But in lieu of what has happened with the Pacers,

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Speaker 4: with the Jazz, with the Wizards last not other teams,

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Speaker 4: some of the theories that they said that they've discussed already,

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Speaker 4: according to Shampserania, was first round pick can only be

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Speaker 4: protected in the top four or the top fourteen. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, between one and four or fourteen and up.

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Speaker 4: Lottery odds freeze at the trade deadline or a later date.

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Speaker 4: No longer allowing a team to pick the top four

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Speaker 4: in consecutive seasons or after consecutive bottom three finishes. Teams

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Speaker 3: That's the Indiana Pacers rule right there.

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Speaker 6: Could they have been more specific?

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Speaker 4: I mean when I saw that one, I was like,

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Speaker 4: oh okay, that's kind of crazy. And then lottery odds

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Speaker 4: allocated based on two year records. That is something that

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Speaker 4: is similar to how like the WNBA does it.

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Speaker 3: I believe they landed.

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Speaker 4: I want to say, the backpack number one picks with

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Speaker 4: a Leah Boston and then Caitlyn Clark, and it was

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Speaker 4: based off of your two year record, and then the

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Speaker 4: last one they had on the list were or last

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Speaker 4: two lottery gets extended into include all playing teams, which

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Speaker 4: I would not be a fan of that. And then

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Speaker 4: you also have flattening the odds for all lottery teams

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Speaker 4: know it's a lot to digest for the listeners for

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Speaker 4: no longer allowed to pick in the top four in

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Speaker 4: consecutive years, I'm sorry, no longer allowed to pick in

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Speaker 4: the top four after making the conference finals. That is,

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Speaker 4: to Jeff's point, it seems like the Pacers rule. But

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Speaker 4: given the Pacers circumstances this year, I don't think that

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Speaker 4: that necessarily would be very fair at all. I mean,

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Speaker 4: if you were in the conference finals in theory and

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Speaker 4: pick the next year, that means you're you're you had

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Speaker 4: catastrophic injuries. If you think about it, like, there's no

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Speaker 4: way a team that has made it that far the

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Speaker 4: year before will be that bad the next year unless

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Speaker 4: things went horribly wrong, which they have this year. The

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Speaker 4: Pacers were never supposed to have a top four pick

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Speaker 4: to begin with. It kind of just manifested itself as

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Speaker 3: So your thoughts on that, I.

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Speaker 2: Think you put it, well, how do you penalize a

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Speaker 2: believe real injuries that that have consequences.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And honestly, when you when I hear that list.

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Speaker 5: I just hear a lot of kicking the can you

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Speaker 5: know down the street almost of like, okay, so you said, James,

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Speaker 5: one of them would be you flatten the odds for

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Speaker 5: all all teams in the lottery. So that means you

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Speaker 5: just have teams at the back end of the playoff

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Speaker 5: picture tank, right, you know, you would take in different ways.

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Speaker 5: I guess you know when you mentioned you can't have

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Speaker 5: back to back years of top four picks, well, then

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Speaker 5: the teams would just try to, you know whatever.

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Speaker 6: Get to the fifth or sixth spot and then you know,

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Speaker 5: It is wild to think about it from an Indiana

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Speaker 5: Caitlyn Clark was the year after Eliah Boston obviously the

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Speaker 5: Pacers one is laughable for everything that you just laid

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Speaker 6: And I do think you know, you're probably.

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Speaker 5: You're probably only about a month difference from the Benedict

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Speaker 5: play now, given the Pacers a record, the answer is

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Speaker 5: probably no. But let's say the Pacers don't have as

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Speaker 5: bad of injury luck. You know, is there any sort

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Speaker 5: hundred right now, you know, would there be any of that?

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Speaker 5: Obviously Boston has Jalen Brown, so you know, I don't

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Speaker 6: But yeah, that is a thought that I had as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree there, Kevin.

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Speaker 4: But again, I mean just the sheer amount of injuries,

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Speaker 4: like for example, I wonder if you could like appeal

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Speaker 4: something like that, because that's such a hard and fast rule.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and again, these are all theoretical. These are

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Speaker 4: not set in stone. The thing's been officially agreed upon yet.

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Speaker 4: But if that were to happen, I wonder if you

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Speaker 4: we made it to the conference finals and then every

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Speaker 4: least in my opinion, you all that this is the

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Speaker 4: loudest chatter we've heard about tanking since basically teams have

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Speaker 4: done it, at least in my time watching the NBA,

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Speaker 4: because I remember, like the process with Joel Embiid and

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Speaker 4: the Sixers tried to lose every single year.

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Speaker 3: For like three years.

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Speaker 7: How's that working out for them?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, to be honest, Jeff, it worked

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Speaker 4: I mean, they got Ben Simmons out of the league

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Speaker 4: the finals. I mean, not saying that series would put

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Speaker 4: of how they built their rosters through the draft.

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Speaker 3: And again to me.

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Speaker 2: Or if you do all that and you do anything

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but okay, I'll play Devil's advocate here, Jeff. What

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Speaker 4: if it doesn't work for the Pacers, but you still

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Speaker 4: want to try, right, Like, if you don't win a title, like,

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Speaker 4: let's say that the Pacers get the number one pick,

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Speaker 3: Would you say it was a failure.

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Speaker 8: To do that.

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Speaker 2: I will concede. If they get to the finals, you're

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Speaker 4: But my point is, and again the Philly thing is

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Speaker 4: like just tangential. My point is, you do it to

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Speaker 4: gain a lot of talent. And before Ben Simmons had

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Speaker 4: the back injuries and all that and got the I

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Speaker 4: don't know what is it, the yips without shooting the basketball,

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Speaker 4: he was viewed as a perennial All Star, a All

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Speaker 4: if you are the Pacers and aj De Bandza, Darren Peterson,

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Speaker 4: you know, the Boozers, Son and things like that, Okleb Wilson.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, again, this isn't going away. So I'm very

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Speaker 4: curious to see where this all stands after the season.

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Speaker 4: But for the Pacers' purposes, look, they're not trying to

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Speaker 4: be bad next year anyway, So maybe you dodged a bullet.

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Speaker 6: What do you guys expect tonight in MACKI.

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Speaker 4: I'm a little on edge, I guess more if I'm

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Speaker 4: I'm a Purdue fan, just because the team hasn't been

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Speaker 3: And so I use credit.

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Speaker 4: They've really competed against Purdue fairly well over the last

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Speaker 4: four years. Like during this producingior class, I thought I

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Speaker 4: was kind of hung with them, honestly, and that's kind

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Speaker 4: of been like a thrown in their side. So as

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Speaker 4: far as dominant as Purdue has been in the program

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Speaker 4: I still think they're true rivals in a sense because

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Speaker 2: I expect Purdue to take out a lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: I expect them to be in control of this game

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's awfully good.

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Speaker 3: We're getting closer to that time where I think it

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Speaker 6: But again, anytime.

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Speaker 5: These two teams meet, it gets circled on the Bowen calendar.

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Speaker 7: We got a lot going on today, a big show.

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Speaker 2: Thad Mada, just fresh off his five hundredth victory in

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Speaker 2: thirty special treat Zach Kiefer will join us from Italy

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Speaker 2: to Hammon, Indiana's story for the Athletic Honestly, do we

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Speaker 7: The Bears move to Hammond, Indiana.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget what By the way, did.

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Speaker 6: You see the electricity in the curling match to end

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Speaker 7: Otherwise he did.

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Speaker 5: An incredible shot, Tabatha Peterson, goat, you guys have named

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Speaker 6: Load for the final two hours. I don't know. I

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Speaker 7: You know it was a It was a freeze frame promo.

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Speaker 3: Jeff was not, you know, clicking too much on those things.

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Speaker 6: Ourn HR meeting waiting to happen.

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Speaker 11: If you guys are watching fifty this week.

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Speaker 2: We all just did the training, so I know, I

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Speaker 6: The training was longer than a curling match.

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Speaker 7: That is true, not nearly as entertaining.

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Speaker 3: All I got it done. No, we like having jobs, right.

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Speaker 7: Greg Rakestraw. On the other side, it's ninety three five

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Speaker 12: Come on, you were listening to a fan morning show

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Speaker 2: Go James Boyd Go, James Boyd Yo.

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Speaker 3: Now it's Downtown Club.

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Speaker 2: You always turn us into you and Mark turned us

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Speaker 9: I like that.

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Speaker 7: I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Mark, get you brinking it down? That Santanah trying

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Speaker 11: Yeah, Cameron and Juelsontanna.

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Speaker 6: I will reiterate to the crib baby later, Mark, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh hey, that's a jam kyb you know.

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Speaker 6: Come on now, it is Friday.

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Speaker 7: It is Friday?

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Speaker 2: Does that mean, Greg Rakestraw just after eight o'clock?

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Speaker 7: Is that what that means?

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Speaker 2: Mark Dagton no better time of the week is the

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Speaker 2: man and he joins us now on the Payless Liquors Hotline.

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Speaker 2: He needs no introduction, although we could give him a

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Speaker 7: Greg, Are you like me?

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Speaker 2: Are you getting used to having really cool sports on

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Speaker 9: I have been watching the Curling Channel twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 9: You and Kevin for the last eleven days.

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Speaker 2: Yes, were you as fired up yesterday as Kevin was

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Speaker 2: for the women's curling.

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean they went to an extra end. I

443
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Speaker 9: mean the fact they let Switzerland score three on the tenth,

444
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Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know what they were thinking, but

445
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Speaker 9: thankfully they had the hammer in the eleventh and came

446
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Speaker 9: back to qualify for the semi finals.

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Speaker 5: Hearing great Gray Shaw talk curling, as boy, I never

448
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Speaker 5: thought I'd get as excited as when he looked at

449
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Speaker 5: me and said we're getting Notre Dame basketball season.

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Speaker 6: Tickets a few weeks ago.

451
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Speaker 5: But now I'm even more excited on that rake. You

452
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Speaker 5: got the sectional draw coming up Sunday?

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Speaker 9: Right, That is correct, sir?

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Speaker 6: Okay, so I saw did I see you do with

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Speaker 6: Colin unrip?

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Speaker 9: That is correct? So Kyle I will do the show together.

457
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Speaker 9: And I believe we're on ninety three double IBC to

458
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Speaker 9: to Pacers Basketball. Is that a factual statement?

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Speaker 5: I think so five o'clock tip right, Pacers and MAVs

460
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Speaker 5: I think coming.

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Speaker 9: Up, and yes, we're on ninety three WIBZ on Sunday.

462
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Speaker 5: Okay, let's go to Colin for a second there, because

463
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Speaker 5: he had an interesting poll as we looked to the

464
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Speaker 5: sectional draw on Sunday it was Fishers of the Field

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Speaker 5: in four A.

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Speaker 6: Did you happen to see the results of that?

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Speaker 9: I have not know.

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Speaker 6: Okay, what would you guess? The result of that?

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Speaker 9: Has to me is that people picked Fishers by that

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Speaker 9: they would have the majority.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sixty, Is that where you would kind of lay

472
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Speaker 5: it out as we had because it feels like, weirdly Rake,

473
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Speaker 5: it feels like they've had some close games here, maybe

474
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Speaker 5: not even to the most Marquee Marque opponents lately.

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Speaker 9: Well, let's acknowledge it again. Even though they are unbeaten,

476
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Speaker 9: I don't think they are as good as they were

477
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Speaker 9: last year because last year's team was phenomenal and I

478
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Speaker 9: thought there was one team that could beat him, and

479
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Speaker 9: that was the team that got him in the state

480
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Speaker 9: championship games because of matchups in Jeffersonville. This team is

481
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Speaker 9: obviously very good and hasn't been beaten, but I don't

482
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Speaker 9: think the margin for error is what it is for

483
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Speaker 9: this group that it was a year ago.

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Speaker 10: Now.

485
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Speaker 9: I saw them early in the year, then didn't see

486
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Speaker 9: him again until the game against Carmel where they won

487
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Speaker 9: at Carmel without their best player in Jason Gardner Junior

488
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Speaker 9: and the progress that I saw from the kids, they

489
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Speaker 9: would qualify as the role players John John lum Levi, Walker,

490
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Speaker 9: the Breeland Brothers, et cetera. I thought was significant. But yes,

491
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Speaker 9: Sena Grove hung with him on Friday, Westfield took him

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Speaker 9: to overtime the Thursday before that, so they have been

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Speaker 9: in some close games. So this year I might go

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Speaker 9: with the Field, not just for the sectional, but but

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Speaker 9: you know, throughout the tournament. But his Fishers unquestionably the

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Speaker 9: best team in the state. Yes, Kevin, they are.

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Speaker 2: Text line question for you. Greg Fish from Stoops wants

498
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Speaker 2: you to talk about Plainfield.

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Speaker 9: Plainfield is outstanding. Plainfield also because the geography has to

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Speaker 9: play Pike at some point in time, very early in

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Speaker 9: the tournament. And if Fishers is number one, Pike is

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Speaker 9: number two in my mind, not that they again they

503
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Speaker 9: can't be beaten. I've got them against Ellen tonight and

504
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Speaker 9: that game is for the m Championship. That game has

505
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Speaker 9: already even played once and Llen beat Pike in the

506
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Speaker 9: Marion County Championship game by three. But to the listeners question,

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Speaker 9: Plainfield is outstanding. Noah Smith's gonna play at De Paul

508
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Speaker 9: Harper Baker Lands is a Division one level guard to

509
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Speaker 9: point guard Land and Gillot I believe is Plainfield's all

510
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Speaker 9: time leader and assists. He's gonna play at Saint Francis again.

511
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Speaker 9: The other guys on that team know exactly where to

512
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Speaker 9: go and wants to do Andy Weavers their head coach.

513
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Speaker 9: Plainfield is legitimately a top five team in the state,

514
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Speaker 9: but they're gonna have to play another top five team

515
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Speaker 9: and Pike at some point in that sectional and Ben

516
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Speaker 9: Davis ass also in that sectional two and then they're

517
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Speaker 9: probably somewhere in the ten to fifteen range as far

518
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Speaker 9: as teams are concerned. So Plainfield is outstanding, but they

519
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Speaker 9: might lose their first game depending on what the draw

520
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Speaker 9: shows for him on Sunday night, Rake, I know you.

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Speaker 4: You've spent many a time in gyms all across this state.

522
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Speaker 4: I made my first trip to the Holman Center last

523
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Speaker 4: night for a little women's basketball action up there, and

524
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Speaker 4: Tara Hate, Yeah, that was cool, you know, And honestly,

525
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Speaker 4: the question I have for you is have you called

526
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Speaker 4: a game up there, and you know, if so, what

527
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Speaker 4: was your reaction to seeing the Larry burst at you

528
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Speaker 4: for the first time, Because I was kind of like

529
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Speaker 4: oh Man, this is sweet.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 9: I did not go to school at Indiana State, but

532
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Speaker 9: amazingly I spent like at least a week, like three

533
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Speaker 9: different summers in high school in Tara Hate for different camps,

534
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Speaker 9: Like I went to Rose Holman's campus for the If

535
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Speaker 9: you played basketball for like a thirty I even say

536
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Speaker 9: thirty maybe twenty twenty five years stretch in the state

537
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Speaker 9: of Indiana, you attended one of Dick bomb Gardner's shooting

538
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Speaker 9: camps at some point in time. Most of the time

539
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Speaker 9: those were at Earlham actually off for the week at

540
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Speaker 9: Rose Holman. That's the one that I went to. The

541
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Speaker 9: next two summers I spent at least a week at

542
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Speaker 9: Indiana State. So I have a bond with Tara Haat

543
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Speaker 9: I do get to call game Indiana State. I think

544
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Speaker 9: I get Indiana State and U I see next Sunday.

545
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Speaker 9: The reason I say think is that the last day

546
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Speaker 9: of the season is kind of a wild card game

547
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Speaker 9: as to who gets to go to television. My guess

548
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Speaker 9: is at three and fourteen of the conference, Indiana State

549
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Speaker 9: is not going to television next Sunday, which is a

550
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Speaker 9: good nude for the Rakes draw bank account. So I

551
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Speaker 9: think I'm gonna be at Karapoa next Sunday afternoon. Last

552
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Speaker 9: game I had was Illinois State. That one of those

553
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Speaker 9: three conference wins. In fact for I issue back on

554
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Speaker 9: January the fourteenth. Love that place and frankly, since you

555
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Speaker 9: know I see all, do all, observe all. I saw

556
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Speaker 9: your pictures with a couple of ther Reegian kids from

557
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Speaker 9: U S. I'm happy to see Jessica Caruther's back playing

558
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Speaker 9: Division one basketball. I know she went to Butler then

559
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Speaker 9: ended up at I you Northwest. I was unaware that

560
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Speaker 9: she was at UIC these days. Happy to see her

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Speaker 9: back playing at the level frankly that she is more

562
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Speaker 9: than capable of playing at.

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Speaker 4: Yes, she won a state championship at Crown Point a

564
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Speaker 4: few years ago. I probably just a few years ago,

565
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Speaker 4: as it has been quite a while since THNK because

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Speaker 4: now she's a grown woman. But yeah, I had a

567
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Speaker 4: chance to see her and Sarah Zebraki, another one of

568
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Speaker 4: the region talented players up there from our first job.

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Speaker 4: But to pivot to the other sport that will dominate

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Speaker 4: this city over the next week or so with the

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Speaker 4: NFL combine non draft equation, Rake, when you we get

572
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Speaker 4: a chance to talk to Chris Ballot next week. What

573
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Speaker 4: is top of mind for you? And actually, I'll throw

574
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Speaker 4: this one out there. We should perhaps get an update

575
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Speaker 4: on Tavarius Ward if he decides to walk away from

576
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Speaker 4: football and retire because of his concussions. How big of

577
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Speaker 4: a need does cornerback become for the draft and perhaps

578
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Speaker 4: free agency if he's no longer a part of the equation.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think there's a follow up question, is what

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Speaker 9: he him do with kennymore? You know?

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Speaker 14: Yes, right?

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Speaker 9: Because basically, if if Mooney retires and Frankly you know,

583
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Speaker 9: for what it's worth, I would think that's the way

584
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Speaker 9: he should go. You've got Chas Garden, You've got Kenny Moore,

585
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Speaker 9: got Justin Wally. And again, it is easy to kind

586
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Speaker 9: of forget about the guy that was a third round

587
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Speaker 9: pick the year before, and Frankly had one a starting

588
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Speaker 9: job before before the injury occurred the Tuesday of the

589
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Speaker 9: opening week, I think, August fifth, before the first preseason

590
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Speaker 9: game August seventh against the Baltimore Ravens. Does that mean

591
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Speaker 9: you're set at corner? No? And I have said this

592
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Speaker 9: either on this show or other places before. I think

593
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Speaker 9: it's not that big of an oversimplication simplification to look

594
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Speaker 9: at the Colts draft picks and go, who is the

595
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Speaker 9: best defensive player available. Let's take that guy. Because you

596
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Speaker 9: could argue there as needs along every position. You obviously

597
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Speaker 9: have pass rush questions. You got to get younger at linebacker,

598
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Speaker 9: and every team always drafts defensive backs in every drafts

599
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Speaker 9: as backups, as special teams guys, et cetera. So you

600
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Speaker 9: gotta remember there are two defensive backs and Wally and

601
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Speaker 9: Wohler that never made it to the start line last

602
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Speaker 9: year you think are going to factor in in some

603
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Speaker 9: former fashion this year. So yes, Mooney's decision impacts the

604
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Speaker 9: roster and the salary cap, but there are probably three

605
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Speaker 9: guys that have been starters or are considered to be

606
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Speaker 9: starters that are on the roster not named Mooney Ward

607
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Speaker 9: for this football team. So I can throw that out

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Speaker 9: there at you as well.

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Speaker 6: Rick, Are you under the lights tomorrow night inside a

610
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Speaker 6: Gamebridge Field House?

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Speaker 9: I am. I will be interviewing fourteen winning wrestlers, a

612
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Speaker 9: winning state coach, and the mental attitude or winner for

613
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Speaker 9: the IHSAA Champions Network.

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Speaker 6: I love that that is a tremendous environment.

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Speaker 5: If anybody who has never been to, especially the nightcap

616
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Speaker 5: of the state wrestling finals that actually gets underway here

617
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Speaker 5: this afternoon over a Gamebridgefield. I did want to ask

618
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Speaker 5: you about we talk colnder At earlier and he had

619
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Speaker 5: this news item yesterday and I know it created a

620
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Speaker 5: lot of chatter of Josh Henderson and fill in any

621
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Speaker 5: gaps I have in this story, Ray, please, the son

622
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Speaker 5: of Allan Henderson, a very good player at University High

623
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Speaker 5: School located on the west side of Carmel. I believe

624
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Speaker 5: they were the state runner up last year, yep, and

625
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Speaker 5: he I guess Withdrew is a very good player again

626
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Speaker 5: this season for them. He has withdrawn from University High School,

627
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Speaker 5: and I believe as according to Kyle's story, I think

628
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Speaker 5: he said in Brolden Carmel and the ISSA rules indicate

629
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Speaker 5: that you have to set out thirty days for an

630
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Speaker 5: in season transfer. So if Carmel got on a run,

631
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Speaker 5: I guess he could be eligible. Do you do you

632
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Speaker 5: know any more on this story?

633
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Speaker 9: It was kind of a wild story out now you're right,

634
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Speaker 9: and again it is kind of the new era that

635
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Speaker 9: we are in. But yes, according to that, he would

636
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Speaker 9: be eligible if they made the semi state, which is

637
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Speaker 9: which is certainly possible. Again, they have to get through

638
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Speaker 9: Fishers in the sectional, but then after that Carmel would

639
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Speaker 9: be whoever wins the the Hamilton County Sectional would be

640
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Speaker 9: the favorite to win their regional. And but just because

641
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Speaker 9: kind of way the matchups work this year, and so yes,

642
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Speaker 9: he could be eligible in thirty days. Again, is there

643
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Speaker 9: more of this story? Likely haven't had a chance to

644
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Speaker 9: talk to Kyle and or the family about it, not yet.

645
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Speaker 9: So you know, you would think, hey, maybe you finish

646
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Speaker 9: out this season, then you make the move so you

647
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Speaker 9: can play next year. Others have said, hey, if you

648
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Speaker 9: make the move now, it kind of starts your clock

649
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Speaker 9: and maybe you're not sitting as long next year. I

650
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Speaker 9: think it has a major impact on Carmel next year

651
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Speaker 9: because they lose Evan Harrold, who I think he's probably

652
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Speaker 9: gonna be an Indiana All Star, going to play at Bellerman.

653
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Speaker 9: They lose Julian Vote, who has blossomed as a player

654
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Speaker 9: this year and just picked up an offer from Indiana

655
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Speaker 9: wesley An, who obviously one of the best small college

656
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Speaker 9: programs in the nation. They do bring back Cash Daniels,

657
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Speaker 9: They do bring back Aiden Dickerson, but they graduate basically

658
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Speaker 9: four of their top six or seven, and so the

659
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Speaker 9: addition of Henderson is a major pick up for this

660
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Speaker 9: Carmel team next year, and there is a chance that

661
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Speaker 9: it could help them this year if they can find

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Speaker 9: a way to do something nobody else has done this year,

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Speaker 9: and that's beat Fishers that they get to them.

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Speaker 6: Rag has the thirty day rule? Has that always been

665
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Speaker 6: a thing?

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Speaker 5: Because it seems rather ridiculous to me, And I don't know,

667
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Speaker 5: maybe I'm living too much in the transfer portal era

668
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Speaker 5: of college or hell, even the tanking of the NBA,

669
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Speaker 5: But like whatever, if you're frustrated with your situation, if

670
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Speaker 5: the season's not going well, and you make this move

671
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Speaker 5: in January, thirty days you could be eligible to start

672
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Speaker 5: the sectional at some other school.

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Speaker 6: Has it always been thirty days? It seems so short.

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Speaker 9: I don't think that has been the case, but I

675
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Speaker 9: think it has been kind of on a case by

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Speaker 9: case basis. Have I seen players previously play for one

677
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Speaker 9: team at the start of the season and play for

678
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Speaker 9: somebody else at the end of the season. Yes, it

679
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Speaker 9: hasn't usually happened, but there have been cases where, again

680
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Speaker 9: you go through an appeals process or to give a

681
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Speaker 9: reason for transfer, and basically both schools would have to

682
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Speaker 9: sign off on it. Obviously, the school that is receiving

683
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Speaker 9: the new student slash athlete you know, would be in

684
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Speaker 9: favor of it. But there are cases where the previous

685
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Speaker 9: school would have said, yes, transfer has approved, understandable and

686
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Speaker 9: you would be eligible to play. We frankly now have

687
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Speaker 9: to have a policy on these things because it happens

688
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Speaker 9: a bit more frequently.

689
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Speaker 5: Sorry, I've got one more So if university didn't sign off,

690
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Speaker 5: then he wouldn't be eligible.

691
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Speaker 6: Is it that simple?

692
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Speaker 9: No? No, not now because of the of the of

693
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Speaker 9: the way the rules have changed, that process is in place.

694
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Speaker 9: Before it was almost on a case by case basis.

695
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Speaker 7: Rick, what's the worst tank job you've ever seen?

696
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Speaker 10: Good?

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Speaker 9: Question to two. Worst tank job I've ever seen? Probably

698
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Speaker 9: me on a golf course.

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Speaker 3: I mean the way this right, But I was gonna

700
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Speaker 3: say those years ago.

701
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Speaker 5: The reason I'm pausing stop that I know you've got

702
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Speaker 5: around the greens Rake.

703
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Speaker 9: I'm trying to delineate from a team that's tanking to

704
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Speaker 9: a team that's just bad. I mean the fact that

705
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Speaker 9: that the Sixers were so bad for so long and

706
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 9: like would just give away pieces that were good because

707
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 9: they wanted to draft more So, like the Darryl Morey

708
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 9: era of the process is what immediately comes to mind.

709
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Speaker 9: Like I can rattle up stats about the worst teams ever,

710
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Speaker 9: but some of those teams just sucked. They weren't tanking.

711
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Speaker 8: This didn't have any talent.

712
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Speaker 9: So so tanking again, if we take my golf ability

713
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Speaker 9: out of the mix, I would go with like that

714
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Speaker 9: four or five year swath of the process.

715
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Speaker 14: For the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

716
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Speaker 2: Hard to argue that there was that they were. They

717
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Speaker 2: were barely a G League team at the time.

718
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Speaker 9: Like wasn't wasn't was it? Nerlin's Noel that was like

719
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Speaker 9: a semi decent player for them. Am I am I

720
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Speaker 9: giving the run?

721
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Speaker 7: He wasn't hurt.

722
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they had him.

723
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Speaker 4: I think Marco Carter Williams might have been with them

724
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Speaker 4: for a while as well, Right, but they were in

725
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Speaker 4: the game.

726
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Speaker 9: They basically gave Noel away for nothing. It's because ah,

727
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 9: he's too good, We're gonna start winning games, and let's

728
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Speaker 9: get rid of him. He's not part of our long

729
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Speaker 9: term process. So that that in my era of doing

730
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Speaker 9: this quasi professionally, that would be the thing that I

731
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Speaker 9: would think of immediately.

732
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Speaker 2: Uh as always, buddy, good to talk to you. Have

733
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Speaker 2: fun this weekend and we will check in with you later.

734
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Speaker 1: Okay, see you fellas they sees the Fan Morning.

735
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Speaker 7: Show with KB, JB and Jeff.

736
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Speaker 3: Yeah, my second is good. The friendly soft roll on

737
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Speaker 3: the Rims.

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Speaker 6: Ninety three eighty nine.

739
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Speaker 4: It's a two possession game with three seconds left.

740
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Speaker 6: Don't do anything selling, It'll just be smart here.

741
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Speaker 2: Georgetown will looked inbound, shuts it to mid court, he

742
00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: would shoot, go back to.

743
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Speaker 3: My already, he'll throw it up. That's the ball game.

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Speaker 6: The Jorgs have won.

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Speaker 3: Ninety three eighty nine.

746
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Speaker 11: And sad Mana has picked up his five hundredth win

747
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Speaker 11: as a head coach.

748
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Speaker 7: Cool in a gang, baby.

749
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Speaker 6: Let's go going old school right there, and I'll tell

750
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Speaker 6: you what.

751
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 7: Still getting it done after all this time?

752
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: Is our next guest who joins us on the Payless

753
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 2: Liquors hotline, the one, the only fad Mada into the

754
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 2: five hundred win club in college basketball. Good morning, coach, Congratulations.

755
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: I know it's better for you just to end the

756
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: losing streak for Butler, but that had to feel good

757
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 2: all the way around.

758
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Speaker 13: You're definitely right, there's no question about it. And I

759
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 13: like to pull in the gang lead in. It takes

760
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 13: me back to high school and that song came out.

761
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Speaker 13: But it's been an amazing twenty one years and I

762
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Speaker 13: think from the standpoint of as you said, you know,

763
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Speaker 13: ending the losing streak was the most prevalent thing on

764
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Speaker 13: my mind. And you know, I give our guys a

765
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 13: lot of credit. They've continued to fight, they've continued to

766
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 13: scrape and claw, and that was a k a road

767
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 13: win for us the other night, considering all the circumstances,

768
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Speaker 13: and you know, we've got to get ourselves ready to

769
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Speaker 13: go again. Here we've got another short turnaround. It's been

770
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Speaker 13: you know, from Wednesday or I'm sorry Sunday Wednesday to

771
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Speaker 13: now Saturday one thirty tip has been a heck of

772
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Speaker 13: a week for us.

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Speaker 4: Sad again, congrats on win number five hundred. Do you

774
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 4: remember the first victory?

775
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Speaker 13: I do, well, you shall only ninety to seventy two

776
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 13: I think was a score and never forget that. So

777
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 13: it's funny. We were talking about a lot of the game.

778
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 13: They had some friends over last night and we were

779
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 13: talking about a lot of the games along the way

780
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Speaker 13: and like I said, it's been a it's been an

781
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 13: amazing twenty one years.

782
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Speaker 6: Again, Butler and Xavier coming up.

783
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Speaker 5: As that said, one thirty inside of Eagle Field House

784
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Speaker 5: on Saturday, I saw a couple of different videos, one

785
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 5: made more Butler centric, one kind of your.

786
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Speaker 6: Extended college basketball.

787
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Speaker 5: Family coach or was there anything that stuck out and

788
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 5: kind of reminiscent and watching any of the shoutouts you

789
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 5: got from former players, coaches, et cetera.

790
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Speaker 13: You know, it's funny because my daughter rally made me

791
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 13: a video that was I don't know, probably twenty five

792
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 13: minutes long. It's just not only the Butler players, but

793
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 13: the Xavier players who have the state players. And you know,

794
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 13: everybody is going to forget the players that I coached

795
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 13: along the way, but I never will. And I mean,

796
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 13: those guys obviously have made the difference. And I think

797
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 13: Brad Stevens probably said it best. He said, you know,

798
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Speaker 13: it's amazing when you think about you've left the gymnasium

799
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 13: five hundred times happy his profession, and you know how

800
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 13: many games you've gone into and saying, Ooh, I don't

801
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 13: know if we can win this thing. And you know,

802
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 13: even the other night I mean, you know, Michael Jai,

803
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 13: My heat's off to him once again. You know, I

804
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 13: got him in a halftime We're up ten or whatever

805
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 13: it was, and he's got his winner park on and

806
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 13: he's like shaking because he's got the chills. He's so sick,

807
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 13: and he'd been on ivs throughout the day just trying

808
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 13: to get to play. And you know, obviously we're a

809
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 13: little bit depleted anyway, but you know him given that

810
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 13: type of effort, I mean, those are things that as

811
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Speaker 13: a coach you're never going to forget.

812
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Speaker 5: I did want to ask you about a sequence late

813
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 5: in the game on Wednesday where I think the ball

814
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 5: went out of bounds and Drayton Jones was adamant that

815
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 5: it was off of Georgetown and he wanted your bench

816
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 5: to challenge.

817
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 6: Do you mind taking us through that that that process?

818
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 5: Obviously, it's a new wrinkle, And I have a feeling

819
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 5: there's a time or two where you look out on

820
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 5: the floor and the players waving his finger in the

821
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 5: air and you're thinking you're going to be running every

822
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 5: ramp Pinkle field House has ever had.

823
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 6: So do you listen to some players and not others?

824
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 6: How does that process work?

825
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 14: For it.

826
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Speaker 13: It's funny. I when I first started coaching, I implemented

827
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 13: a rule, you always have to tell me the truth

828
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 13: in the game, because I don't want to argue a

829
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 13: call if you're not telling me the truth. And I

830
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 13: had to kid Ron Lewis, who always I got fouled coach,

831
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 13: I got fouled. I go back and watch to take

832
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 13: the guy who's like three feet from me, and but no,

833
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 13: I saw the flection. And so when Drayton, you know,

834
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 13: reacted to UH check, I felt pretty confident. I didn't

835
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 13: even want to look at the computer screen because I

836
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 13: saw the ball change directions if you will, and you know,

837
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 13: and as I politely said to the rep afterwards, why

838
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 13: do I have to challenge something that I already knew

839
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 13: when you have six eyes out there? But it was,

840
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 13: you know, that was an unbelievable play by Drake. I mean,

841
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 13: just you know, his effort and and uh to go

842
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 13: after the ball and and and save it and have

843
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 13: it deflected was was tremendous for us.

844
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Speaker 2: Talk about Findley biz Jack, he had that risk injury

845
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: comes back from that.

846
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Speaker 7: He was a big part of you getting that win

847
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 7: the other night.

848
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: What do we not know about this kid that we

849
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: should know that you see every day.

850
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think this was Finn is just one of

851
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 13: those guys. He just loves the game of basketball. And

852
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 13: and I go back to his freshman year when he

853
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 13: wasn't playing as much as he wanted to, and you know,

854
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 13: we'd find out the next morning that he was in

855
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 13: the HRC playing pick up basketball at night with the

856
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 13: with the students. You know, he just he's one of

857
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 13: those guys that just kind of gets lost in the moment.

858
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 13: And I think he probably he probably enjoys overtimes more

859
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 13: than anybody else because he gets to keep playing. And uh,

860
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 13: I love I love that about Findlay and and uh,

861
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Speaker 13: you know, when you think about it, he's kind of

862
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 13: an anomally nowadays the college basketball because he's been there

863
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 13: for three years and and people are familiar with him,

864
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 13: and most importantly they've seen the growth that he's made

865
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Speaker 13: as a player and just his development and how his

866
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 13: game has grown. Is it's a it's a great thing

867
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 13: to see.

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Speaker 3: Last one for me, coach.

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Speaker 4: So, if I'm ridding is correctly on your Wikipedia page

870
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Speaker 4: he says you were born in.

871
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Speaker 3: Hoopiston, Illinois. Is that I pronounced it? Hoopston.

872
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 4: So the place you were born in literally has the

873
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Speaker 4: word hoop in the name. Yeah, so you're you're essentially

874
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 4: I'm asking, were you born to coach basketball or at

875
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 4: least play it?

876
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: Like is that part of the equation? I mean, literally,

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Speaker 3: it's in the name.

878
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: But on the more serious than jokes aside, when did

879
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 4: you realize that coaching was something you seriously wanted to do?

880
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,479
Speaker 4: And what has kept it fun for all these years?

881
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 4: Because I can't imagine you would sacrifice that much of

882
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 4: your time in your life to a game if you're

883
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: not enjoying each chapter, each version, and the ever changing

884
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 4: landscape of it.

885
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, it's funny. I was My dad was

886
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 13: a coach athletic director at the high school and and

887
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 13: all I ever wanted to be in life with him,

888
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 13: And I know it was a great role model for me.

889
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 13: And you know, I was. I was raised in the gymnasum.

890
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 13: I was at the luxury of sitting in the coach's

891
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 13: locker room after wins after losses as little kid and

892
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 13: just listening and and I knew that, Uh that's when

893
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 13: I honestly, I just wanted to be a high school

894
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 13: basketball coach and and uh, you know, when I graduated

895
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 13: from Butler, I said, you know, I kind of want

896
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 13: to give this college thing a try, and and got lucky.

897
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 13: There's there's no doubt, you know, from getting a GA

898
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 13: spotted at Indiana State for tates luck and you know,

899
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 13: just sort of finding my way, navigating through and and

900
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 13: to be in this position I am today. I've always

901
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 13: considered myself the luckiest guy in the world.

902
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: Coach, always a our pleasure to speak with you. Go out

903
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: and build on that. Man, it's fun to watch.

904
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 13: Let's go now, it would be a full one tomorrow,

905
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 13: There's no doubt about that.

906
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love the fact we don't have to

907
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: wait every two years. Now got Winter Olympics and the

908
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: Summer Olympics. That's good stuff. We've taken out to Italy.

909
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: Where's Zach Kiefer, your colleague over there at the Athletic

910
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: one of the best writers in America today joins us

911
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: the Payless Liquors Hotline. Good morning, I guess it's good

912
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: afternoon for you, Zach. You're getting used to living over

913
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 2: there in Italy. Now you're coming back or what.

914
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 9: I'm coming back?

915
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 14: Good to hear some familiar voices on the other end,

916
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 14: how you guys doing.

917
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 7: We're doing great, We're excited to talk. You've been looking

918
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 7: forward to this for the last couple of days.

919
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 15: Yeah, it's what I don't know, Tuno thirty here at

920
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 15: three o'clock, it's kind of like a midday low before

921
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 15: some We got some big events coming tonight with with

922
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 15: Indiana's own Nick Yepper, So I'm glad to hop off

923
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 15: to Topam with you guys.

924
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 7: I was just going to ask you, like, how do

925
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 7: you just side each day.

926
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: What you want to cover and where you want to go?

927
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 14: Yeah, so that decision was made above me.

928
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 15: My editor or editor Olympics editor Zach Pears kind of

929
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 15: laid everything out. So the one thing that's been really

930
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 15: surprising is how spread out everything is. Like my friends

931
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 15: at home will be like, were you at Lindsey Vond's crash,

932
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 15: and it's like it's like.

933
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 14: Seven hours away in Italy.

934
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 15: So I'm on the skien and snowboarding beats, but mainly

935
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 15: like three ski and slope style snowboarding stuff. So definitely

936
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 15: events I didn't know a whole lot about before I

937
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 15: started to dig into this stuff. But it's been a blast.

938
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 15: The athletes are crazy they're wild, they're really candid. It's

939
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 15: been just really fun to talk to them and get

940
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 15: to know them and tell their stories.

941
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 6: Zach.

942
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 4: Number one, I expect to see you at our all

943
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 4: staff summit for the NFL come Monday morning.

944
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 14: No sure, so you know, don't.

945
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 4: Forget where your roofs come from. NFL Combin's coming up.

946
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 4: Don't don't get too you know, stuck over there. You

947
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 4: got time to get back, you know, and talk to

948
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 4: Chris Ballot alongside me and Kevin. But aside when I

949
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 4: was looking at and also number two, do never never

950
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 4: send us. I think me and Kevin in this group

951
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 4: chat as well. You know, you were showing us to

952
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 4: making like the homemade what pasta or whatever? I got

953
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 4: that texted like six fifty in the morning, coming in

954
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 4: for the radio and I want to punch you through

955
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 4: the phone.

956
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 3: So I appreciate that as well. But aside from my.

957
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 14: Threats, may I hope it made your day?

958
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 15: You don't know, you don't want to know what they're

959
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 15: doing right now in our last day here in Lavigna,

960
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 15: you know what I mean?

961
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, indulge me. I do want to know. Actually, let

962
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: fill the listeners in.

963
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 15: They are slicing cheese and they have a free wine

964
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 15: tasting in the media tent right now. I will not

965
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 15: be able to partake because I have a long night

966
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 15: of work ahead of me. But now this is certainly

967
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 15: not something they've done every day. But you know, there's

968
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 15: spicing it up.

969
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 14: A little bit for the Olympics, which is nice.

970
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 6: Extra sizzle on that athletic story. You know, I gotta

971
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 6: make sure Nick Gepper chef kiss.

972
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 14: Yeah.

973
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 4: I want to make sure I check in, make sure

974
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 4: you know the comments and the pier's supposed to where

975
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 4: theyre supposed to go if one's off, and be like

976
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 4: I want too many SIPs.

977
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 2: Don't end up like that Australian reporter that was little

978
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: tipsy when she was doing her report.

979
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't do that, Zach.

980
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 4: But for the preparation for the Winter Olympics, what did

981
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 4: you do to kind of at least get an understanding

982
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 4: of what's going on what you have to cover, because

983
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 4: you don't necessarily want to go in as the completely

984
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 4: clueless reporter who's you know, hey, I got opportunity to

985
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 4: cover the Olympics, but you don't know what's going on.

986
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 4: So how did you kind of get up to speed

987
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 4: with just the biggest event.

988
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 6: In the world.

989
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 14: Yeah.

990
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 15: We went to the Team USA summit in October, which

991
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 15: was really really helpful for me. I got to know

992
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 15: the athletes and the great part about these sports, and

993
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 15: I don't mean to take a shot at the NFL,

994
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 15: but sometimes you just can't ask dumb questions in the NFL,

995
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 15: and these sports you absolutely can. And so I asked

996
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 15: a lot of dumb questions that I learned a lot.

997
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 15: And these athletes were gracious with their time, They were candid,

998
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 15: they were refreshing, refreshingly honest.

999
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 14: I mean like they were There were times when they

1000
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 14: wanted to know more.

1001
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 15: About my job than I was to ask them about theirs,

1002
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 15: Like they were fascinated with the Philip Rivers story when

1003
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 15: that was happening in late December, and I was like, guys,

1004
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 15: like you ski down a mountain at ninety miles an hour,

1005
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 15: Like that's more interesting right now to me.

1006
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 9: They were great.

1007
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 15: I've had so much fun getting to know some of

1008
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 15: these athletes. And the other thing is like I don't

1009
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 15: think the reader wants me to be describing like a

1010
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 15: double core ten eighty aerial backslip jump, you know, like

1011
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 15: you know don't know what that is. Can I be honest, like,

1012
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 15: I don't know what that is? The reader probably doesn't

1013
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 15: know what that is. So instead of going super super technical,

1014
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 15: I can write about who these people are and they're fascinating.

1015
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 15: I wrote about, you know, a woman who quit the

1016
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 15: sport at twenty and became a plumber and then got

1017
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 15: back into it a couple of years ago and got

1018
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 15: to compete in the halfpipe in the Olympics a couple

1019
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 15: of days ago. And Ryan Cochran Siegel works at his

1020
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 15: family's maple syrup farm in Vermont.

1021
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 14: And oh, by the way, one of silver medal.

1022
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 15: Beat the biggest best skier in the world from Switzerland

1023
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,439
Speaker 15: in the process and silver medal that no one thought

1024
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 15: he was going to win. So it's been awesome. Nick

1025
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 15: Yepper is a really cool dude. He's going for a

1026
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 15: sports medal tonight. That dude grew up going to Perfect

1027
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 15: North slopes in southern Indiana. Anyone listening out there has

1028
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 15: ever been to Perfect North. It is not an Olympic

1029
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 15: training ground. And I asked him about that and he said, look,

1030
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 15: if I grew up in Vail, I get to do

1031
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 15: one run an hour because it's so crowded. I grew

1032
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 15: up a perfect North I could do fifteen runs an

1033
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 15: hour and that's how he got really good. So it's

1034
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 15: been really refreshing. And no, James, you will not see

1035
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 15: me interviewing NFL players next week at the Combo.

1036
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 6: Zach first off, thanks to the TOM.

1037
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 5: I know you're insanely busy, so I really appreciate you

1038
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 5: making time for us. Has this created an itch to

1039
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 5: cover and let's just stick with the Winter Games like

1040
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 5: any other particular events, you know, obviously another Winter Olympics.

1041
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 6: Do you wish there was a you know, a.

1042
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 5: Story that you've come across that you could have covered here,

1043
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 5: whether it's you know, maybe not in Courtina, maybe more

1044
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 5: in the Milan area, just kind of what's your first

1045
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 5: experience been like from that aspect of it.

1046
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 15: Yeah, I would have loved to see the Kayla Shifferns

1047
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 15: winning gold middle rinning run a couple of days ago,

1048
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 15: Like seeing her crouch down at the end and the

1049
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 15: way she talked about her dad at the end and

1050
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 15: how he wasn't there, Like that hit home for me,

1051
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 15: and that was just a really.

1052
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 14: Remarkable press conference. I thought.

1053
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 15: The other thing is like, I mean we were absolutely

1054
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 15: drained right now, Like I don't know what day it is,

1055
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 15: Like we are absolutely on our last legs. I think

1056
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 15: I have two more days of coverage and I fly home.

1057
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 15: But it's so fun because the energy is so high

1058
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 15: and the stakes are so high every day for these athletes,

1059
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 15: Like every event you're at, even if you don't know

1060
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 15: like what.

1061
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 14: The story is going in or you're not that expecting

1062
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 14: to be there.

1063
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 15: Because it's like the sixth event you've covered in four days.

1064
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 15: Like it's the biggest moment of someone's life, a lot

1065
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 15: of people's lives, and when you talk to him, it

1066
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 15: really comes through and it's really cool. And I've seen

1067
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 15: a lot of tears.

1068
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 14: Both good and bad this week, and it's been.

1069
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 15: Refreshing, you know, Like the NFL has owned my life

1070
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 15: for like twelve years now, thirteen years, and it can

1071
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 15: feel monotonous. This has felt completely different, but it's been

1072
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 15: refreshing in a lot of way. It's been fun to

1073
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 15: talk to different athletes with different stories, and I think,

1074
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 15: you know, I've been a sportswriter for quite a while now,

1075
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 15: I feel like it's good to be challenged as you

1076
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 15: go through your career and do things that are uncomfortable

1077
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 15: and do things that are really hard, like me writing

1078
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 15: about skiing like that shouldn't have happened.

1079
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 14: Like I don't know what I'm doing. I'm not a

1080
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 14: very good skier.

1081
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 15: Any of the other but I can tell a story

1082
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 15: and it's been fun to be challenged in that way

1083
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 15: and try something new. And I actually kind of know

1084
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 15: what I'm doing on day nineteen of twenty one, so

1085
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 15: when I got here, my head was spinning, but I

1086
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 15: figured a few things out.

1087
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 14: It's been a blast.

1088
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 3: Zach.

1089
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 5: I'm struck by this watching from a far. I'm curious

1090
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 5: if you've experienced it in person. I get obviously more

1091
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 5: people are watching the Super Bowl, of course, but like

1092
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 5: I would argue the fact that it's every four years,

1093
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if there is pressure for these individual

1094
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 5: athletes anywhere else in the world.

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Speaker 6: I mean, and I probably am speaking.

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Speaker 5: Specifically to like watching the figure skaters and see some

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Speaker 5: of them not even like perform the routine they have prepared,

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Speaker 5: Like it's not like they do the routine that they

1099
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Speaker 5: were thinking they were going to do and they just

1100
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Speaker 5: don't do it well. But no, no, no, they get

1101
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 5: so nervous out there. They don't even do the actual

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Speaker 5: routine because of the nerves and the magnitude of every

1103
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 5: four years and you might only get one crack at it,

1104
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Speaker 5: depending on your event and your age.

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00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 6: Have you felt that?

1106
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Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe the snowboarder is a more chill

1107
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 5: so you don't feel that. But have you, you know, kind

1108
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 5: of felt the magnitude of what a pressure is like

1109
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 5: at an Olympic Games where you know, it's not even

1110
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 5: like golf or tennis where you have a major, you

1111
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 5: know you get four of them every year.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, that's what makes it so special. The drama is

1113
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 15: very real, like it is very tangible. You can feel it,

1114
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 15: you can see it, and you can absolutely spear it

1115
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 15: in the athletes words afterwards. I mean, Nick Yeppard just

1116
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 15: told me a half hour ago now he just crushed

1117
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 15: his qualifying run. He was perfect and I'll be the

1118
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 15: second guy to go tonight in finals and one of

1119
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 15: the favorites.

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Speaker 14: And he said he woke up this morning and was.

1121
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 15: Crying in his bathroom because he was just so like nervous,

1122
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 15: Like this is four years of waiting for these athletes.

1123
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 15: And Ilia Melinan, the figure skater, like I'm not in Milan,

1124
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 15: but for him to stand up to the cameras afterward

1125
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 15: and said like it was too big of a moment

1126
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 15: for me. I'm paraphrasing that. It's essentially what he said,

1127
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 15: like the nerves got to him, Like that's real, and

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00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 15: that's I think, as you know, a sports journalist, I

1129
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 15: think that's what we're all kind of chasing, right, is

1130
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 15: the real, the good, the bad. But we don't want

1131
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 15: the pr stuff. We don't want the fake stuff. And

1132
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 15: I think in the NFL you deal with a lot

1133
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 15: of that, a lot of that coach speak or whatever

1134
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 15: you want to call it, and there's just not been

1135
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 15: a lot of that, and you can feel it out

1136
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 15: here and it's just really fun to hear the real

1137
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 15: stuff from the athletes. I just talked to Hunter hess

1138
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 15: who was trashed by President Trump a couple of weeks ago,

1139
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 15: and I asked him what's it like to be called

1140
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 15: a loser by.

1141
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 14: The president and he said it was like the hardest.

1142
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 15: Two weeks of his life, but because of his teammates,

1143
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 15: they pay back up and he had a really good

1144
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,439
Speaker 15: qualifying run as well.

1145
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 14: So it just feels like a world away from what

1146
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 14: I'm used to.

1147
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 15: And it is obviously both like in literal sense but

1148
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 15: also figuratively.

1149
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 4: So none of the athletes, Zach have told you they

1150
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 4: have to watch the film you ask them what happened

1151
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 4: out there?

1152
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 14: I haven't been I haven't been told that one time, James.

1153
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 15: I I just realized that that just made my day.

1154
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: What is there a singular thing that sticks out in

1155
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: your mind when you think back a year from now,

1156
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 2: two years from now, five years from now. I go, man,

1157
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: I'll never forget that about this international competition and being

1158
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: in just dropped into the middle of it and living it.

1159
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 15: Yeah, tell me if you guys have ever heard something

1160
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 15: like this, I certainly have not in the NFL or

1161
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 15: college basketball or pro basketball.

1162
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 14: Maybe so.

1163
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 15: Coolee Kim is going for history right in the halfpipe

1164
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 15: last week. She's the best female snowboarder ever. She's a

1165
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 15: stud ause he's injured, but she's still in first place

1166
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 15: after one run at the halfpipe. Les Garrett here, he's watching.

1167
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 15: She's just she just looks and snowboards better and faster

1168
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 15: and higher than every other female. Like you can just

1169
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 15: tell when you're out here and there's a competitor from

1170
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 15: South Korea who has this nasty fall in the first

1171
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 15: run and it was nasty.

1172
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 14: She was limping the rest of the night.

1173
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 15: And Chloe goes over to her at the top of

1174
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 15: the hill and says, shake it off, you got it.

1175
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 15: You're a great snowboarder, literally encouraging the girl that would

1176
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 15: take the gold medal from her, because that South Korean

1177
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 15: snowboarder wound and had a great run and just edged

1178
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 15: Chloe for the gold medal.

1179
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 14: So Chloe could have had history.

1180
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 15: She could have stamped herself as the only female, you know,

1181
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 15: three peat winner of the half pipe in the Olympic history.

1182
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 15: I just I don't think you're ever going to hear

1183
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 15: that in the NFL. And maybe that's a good thing, right,

1184
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 15: Like an opponent is encouraging someone else on the other

1185
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 15: team to do their best and to take something that

1186
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 15: they want. It was a simple moment of sportsmanship.

1187
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 14: It was refreshing. It was really cool.

1188
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 15: And the out three and you know, she calls Chloe

1189
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 15: her idol and to have that happen and to be

1190
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 15: there and to kind of see it all unfold.

1191
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 14: It's really cool.

1192
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 15: It's easy to get zaded in this job, and this

1193
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 15: last couple of weeks have really done the opposite for me.

1194
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 14: It's been really revitalizing.

1195
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 7: It's good stuff.

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Speaker 14: Zach.

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Speaker 7: Thanks for taking the time out for us. I know

1198
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 7: you're busy out there.

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Speaker 2: I know you're gonna probably need a week or two

1200
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 2: to decompress when you get home, but great stuff. We've

1201
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: been reading Travel Safe and we'll talk to you when

1202
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 2: you get home.

1203
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 6: Thanks Zach.

1204
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 14: Thanks, guys, have a good one.

1205
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: Come on, come on. As you were listening to the

1206
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: Fan morning show on Sports Radio ninety three five and

1207
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:49,239
Speaker 1: one oh seven five the Fan, Sweet Home.

1208
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: Adam texting us A two through nine ten seventy saying

1209
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 2: the region bears you like the gary Berries.

1210
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 3: Though, right, yes, the Gary Berry.

1211
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 2: Let's check out what the latest is for the potential

1212
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: of the Chicago Bears moving into Hammond, Indiana, after the Indiana.

1213
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 7: State Legislature started to clear some hurdles yesterday to try

1214
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 7: and make that happen.

1215
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 2: We are joined now by John Greenberg of the Athletic

1216
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 2: He's been covering this thing all along, and I'm sure

1217
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 2: this is not what you had on your bingo card

1218
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 2: coming into the off season, John.

1219
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 3: But but here we are.

1220
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 7: So what do we know so far?

1221
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 13: Well?

1222
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 10: Hey, you know, I mean, listen, we knew once Indiana,

1223
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 10: you know, kind of got in the mix. We knew

1224
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 10: they'd come up with a pretty good I'm trying to

1225
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 10: think of the word like a process, a pretty good plan,

1226
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 10: because like they've just they've done this recently, you know,

1227
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 10: like when they when Speaker of the House Houston was

1228
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 10: talking yesterday, he mentioned, you know, everything they did with

1229
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 10: Lucas Oil Stadium. That's basically the same kind of plan

1230
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 10: in terms of how to fund the infrastructure and fund

1231
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 10: the building of the stadiums. They kind of had a

1232
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 10: pretty good blueprint. Now it's a little different, you know,

1233
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 10: building a new stadium in downtown.

1234
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 8: Indianapolis where the old one was than.

1235
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 10: Getting the Bears to move to wolf Lake and Hammond.

1236
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 10: It's a slightly different kind of process. So plans good.

1237
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 10: I don't think it's I still think the Bears ended

1238
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 10: up in Arlington Knights.

1239
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 4: John Well, first of all, I have a very hard

1240
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 4: hitting Johnalism question for you.

1241
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 3: I was texting you last night. I tried to get

1242
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 3: you on the show.

1243
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,839
Speaker 4: You told me you had a paddle tennis playoffs last night.

1244
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 3: Did you get a win?

1245
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 10: Well, it was more of a play in because we

1246
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 10: had to we basically had to sweep last night in

1247
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 10: a makeup match, and the team we were chasing had

1248
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 10: to get you know, had to lose pretty badly.

1249
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 3: You stiwned the Chicago Bulls right now, by the way.

1250
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 10: I know, yeah, but we did sweep. We won twelve.

1251
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 10: We swept all our matches. But the other team we needed,

1252
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 10: we needed the first place team to help us with

1253
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 10: a sweep, and they could not get that done. They

1254
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 10: split with the team we're chasing, So we are out

1255
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 10: of the playoffs. From the outside looking in. We missed

1256
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 10: it by two points. I'm the captain, so you know,

1257
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 10: I think my job is in jeopardy. My unpaid, high

1258
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 10: stress job captaining a bunch of other adults in their

1259
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 10: thirties and forties and fifties and figuring out lineups and

1260
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 10: dealing with hurt feelings. I think that might be in jeopardy.

1261
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 10: It's kind of funny because the club I played for

1262
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 10: a park District and the club that beat us, that

1263
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 10: got in the playoffs, is actually the inspiration for Caddy Shack.

1264
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 10: So we actually lost to like Judge Smails Club, which

1265
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 10: is you know, real kick in the teeth.

1266
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 3: So now we got that out of the way. As

1267
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 3: I told you.

1268
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 4: You know, I guess you're allowed to stay on the

1269
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 4: show because when you texted me and say, hey, I

1270
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 4: got to lock ins and out, I told you, hey,

1271
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 4: I don't want losers on our airwaves.

1272
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 3: But you you swept, so I'll give you some grace there.

1273
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 4: But on jokes aside, I mean, as much as you

1274
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 4: talk about being, you know, a leader for your your team,

1275
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 4: which obviously isn't a professional one, we come that love

1276
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 4: of the Bears, how much of a sticking point has

1277
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 4: it been to maybe not get the momentum in the

1278
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 4: backing from the home state, because I'm not so sure

1279
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 4: that this even becomes a possibility. Had they had maybe

1280
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 4: more steps in the last five years to crystallize some

1281
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 4: things happening all the heights.

1282
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I think there's been. I mean, unless

1283
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 10: no one's ever gonna like praise the way you know Illinois,

1284
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 10: no one's ever no one's line up to praise Illinois politics.

1285
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 10: So that's that's one thing they and you know a

1286
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 10: lot of times they definitely deserve the criticism. I don't

1287
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 10: know well the Bears really handled this, because this started

1288
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 10: when they were fighting with with the city in the

1289
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 10: Park District about like putting a sports betting lounge in

1290
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 10: Soldier Field, which frankly is not that.

1291
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 8: Big of a deal either way.

1292
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 10: And then they said, you know what, we're finally actually

1293
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 10: gonna look, you know, and they start thinking about the

1294
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 10: money they can make outside the stadium, you know, that

1295
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 10: mixed use development, which is the key here. And they

1296
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 10: they'd been you know, a bear house that threatened.

1297
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 8: To move Garlings and Knights fifty years ago, so that they.

1298
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 10: Brought that back up and they bought the land which

1299
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 10: was for sale.

1300
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 8: You know, it was an opportune time to buy it

1301
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 8: for two hundred million.

1302
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 9: And that kind of started it.

1303
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 10: And it started with you know, kind of bad feelings

1304
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 10: with the city and the park District even more than

1305
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 10: the state. And then you know, they hired a new

1306
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 10: president and Kevin Warren. This deal for owingson Knights was

1307
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,959
Speaker 10: done with the previous president, Ted Phillips, and Kevin Warren

1308
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 10: didn't want to move to the suburbs.

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00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 8: He wanted his own thing.

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Speaker 10: And this is from talking to people inside and around

1311
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 10: the team and the organization. And then he spent about

1312
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 10: a year negotiating with the city and that was for

1313
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 10: to build a new stadium next to Soldier Field. It

1314
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 10: didn't make any sense to anyone, Like it just wasn't realistic.

1315
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 10: And then they go back to the state again, and

1316
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 10: I know that there was state reps that you know,

1317
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 10: that represent the city and city districts that were mad

1318
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 10: about it. They felt like they were lied to and

1319
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,479
Speaker 10: they were used, and so I think that slowed things down.

1320
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 10: So I think frankly, the Bears deserve a lot of

1321
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 10: the blame here. The city you can blame, you know,

1322
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 10: Governor Pritzker as well for maybe not taking them so

1323
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 10: seriously and maybe not putting this to the front. But

1324
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 10: you know, because what I'd say, the state's got a

1325
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 10: lot of issues, and a lot of them are self.

1326
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 10: You know that you could say it's the state's fault

1327
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 10: they have these issues. But like a new stadium for

1328
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 10: the Bears isn't like the number one thing. It really isn't.

1329
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 10: I think sometimes we pretend sports is a little more

1330
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 10: important than what it is. But I do think the

1331
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 10: bears threats to move to Indiana has kind of up

1332
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 10: sped things up a little bit.

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01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 8: As you know, a leverage.

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01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 10: Play and you know when when the other day on Thursday,

1335
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 10: when Indiana approved everything. Illinois was supposed to have a

1336
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 10: hearing on the mega Projects bill, and the Bears are

1337
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,400
Speaker 10: the ones that told them to shelve it because they

1338
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 10: were still working on some language for their you know,

1339
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 10: for the bill. So I think the Bears kind of

1340
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 10: tried to make the state look bad on Thursday, and

1341
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 10: you know, who knows if that's going to throw another

1342
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 10: wrench in this.

1343
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 11: John, I was going to ask that you kind of

1344
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 11: answered my own question there, But is that where we're

1345
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 11: kind of at with the Bear and the state of

1346
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 11: Illinois that it's kind of like almost a mud slinging

1347
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 11: at this point, because, like you said, the vote didn't occur,

1348
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 11: And does the state kind of feel like the Bears

1349
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 11: are just full of hot air? Like, Okay, sure, you're

1350
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 11: actually gonna go to Northwest Indiana. I don't think so. Like,

1351
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 11: are they actually starting to feel the heat a little bit? Like, Okay,

1352
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 11: this might actually happen, Now we might actually lose the team.

1353
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 10: Yeah. No, I think they're definitely feeling a little bit

1354
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 10: of the heat because the Bears, you know, Indiana's kind

1355
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 10: of come through now a lot of people. It's kind

1356
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 10: of funny when the discussion started because Indiana's got this

1357
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 10: budget surplus, whereas Illinois is always, you know, in a deficit.

1358
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 10: So it kind of became a thing like, well, how

1359
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 10: you know, how's Illinois going to compete with this this

1360
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 10: free money Indiana's thrown at him, but the Indiana has

1361
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 10: not thrown free money at them. They explained. I thought

1362
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 10: they did a nice job explaining where the money would

1363
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 10: come from, and that's comes from taxes. Comes from an

1364
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 10: increased food and beverage tax in Lake and Porter County.

1365
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 8: It comes from an.

1366
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 10: Increased innkeepers tax, the hotel tax in Lake County. It

1367
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 10: comes from money they're going to borrow from the toll road.

1368
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 10: That is where the surplus is. So like, the money's

1369
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 10: coming from the public, Like, it's not like Indiana's just

1370
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 10: like we said last time, and they didn't find gold to.

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01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 8: Balloons in the Indiana dudes, beach.

1372
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 10: You know, this money has to come from somewhere. So

1373
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 10: I think it's competitive for sure. Now, the thing I

1374
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 10: wrote about, and you know what I think is the

1375
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 10: difference is they these plays now with stadiums aren't just

1376
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 10: about the stadium. It's about the mixed use district outside

1377
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 10: the stadium. It's about how much they can make if

1378
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 10: they can make a kind of new neighborhood and a

1379
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,160
Speaker 10: new shopping district around the area, and you know, reap

1380
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 10: the money from from taxes. The state can reap the

1381
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 10: money from taxes, the Bears can reap the money being

1382
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 10: like landlords and business partners and things like that. And

1383
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 10: I just I think Arlington Heights, just by population and

1384
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 10: by demographics is just a much more attractive play for that.

1385
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 10: I don't even know if there's frankly, if there's space

1386
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 10: in the in the the land the Bears you know,

1387
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 10: are kind of looking at in Hammond to even make

1388
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,479
Speaker 10: that kind of development. And furthermore, they stop to an

1389
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 10: environmental study that's not you know, it's near oil Rory.

1390
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 10: It's you know, I kind of made a joke about

1391
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 10: the smelting plants and oil refineries in northwest Indiana, but

1392
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 10: that's there's a lot of truth to that.

1393
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 5: And don't forget about the beautiful Lost Marsh golf course

1394
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 5: up there as well. John Greenberg with US Heeries shadowed

1395
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 5: with us before about the Bears potentially putting on a

1396
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 5: hamm and Ditka sweater at some point here. I want

1397
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 5: to go back to what you said earlier, you said,

1398
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 5: when it's all sudden done, you still feel like Arlington

1399
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:32,479
Speaker 5: Heights will win out. And that is because why well one, they.

1400
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 10: Owned the land already to the no one in I

1401
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 10: don't think anyone in the Bears organization actually wants to

1402
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 10: move to northwest Indiana. They're based in Lake Forest, you know,

1403
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 10: they all live in the north suburbs somewhere. That's just

1404
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 10: a schlep to use the proper term. I don't think

1405
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 10: and I and frankly I wrote the kind of how

1406
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 10: I closed my column, like, yes, it's about business. It's

1407
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 10: about the mixed use development and the fact that Arlington

1408
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 10: Park is three hundred and twenty six acres where they

1409
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 10: could build this like that development around. You know, a

1410
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,479
Speaker 10: lot of population in suburban Cook County. Plus you're close

1411
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 10: to Lake County, Illinois, which is a pretty affluent county.

1412
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 10: There's a lot of money there, you know, if you're

1413
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,320
Speaker 10: trying to get business there. Furthermore, does George McCaskey want

1414
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 10: to be does he want his legacy to be to

1415
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 10: move the.

1416
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 8: Bears out of Illinois.

1417
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 10: I mean, I'm not saying that's the deciding factor here,

1418
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 10: but I'm going to say no, So I think the

1419
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 10: state does get it done through gritted teeth, you know.

1420
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 10: And Governor Pritzker said like that, Yes, will help with infrastructure,

1421
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 10: it's just getting the final numbers and getting that tax

1422
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 10: certainty number of what the bears want. I think Illinois

1423
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 10: is gonna have to grit their teeth and just get

1424
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 10: it done soon.

1425
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 2: John, Thanks for the little tutorial there on what's going

1426
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 2: on and what we can look for next. But I

1427
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 2: think you sound like like a lot.

1428
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 7: Of folks at the end, you expect it's going to

1429
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 7: be arlnkedn. Right. That's the bottom line.

1430
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, exactly, that's the bottom I mean, that's really

1431
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 10: there's just so many reasons why not that in Indiana?

1432
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 10: Did you know Indian wasn't bluffing. They did a good job,

1433
01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 10: I think, and have done a good job of trying

1434
01:04:59,960 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 10: to track. I thought it was funny too. They also

1435
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 10: got like mayors and people of like the surrounding kind

1436
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 10: of like mayor of Hammond, the mayor of Alparaiso. The

1437
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 10: mayor of Alpariso said they have like one of the

1438
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 10: most exciting downtown's in ultim Midwest. So I think when

1439
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 10: I drive to Indy for the combine. I might stop

1440
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 10: in downtown vl Paraiso, Robie.

1441
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 4: Say, John, I have been to downtown Valparaiso. It is

1442
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 4: a downtown.

1443
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 3: There you go. It is one of the downtown for

1444
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 3: one of the all time down.

1445
01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 10: To downtown Indy. This I'll be there. We have we

1446
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 10: have big athletic meetings for me and James have.

1447
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 2: To Oh yeah, we've been hearing about it.

1448
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 7: James is looking forward to the team dinners. That's all.

1449
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 3: There you go.

1450
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to you know, how many how many

1451
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:43,360
Speaker 4: meals can I expense?

1452
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 8: John?

1453
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 10: Hey, this and that's a that's a competition.

1454
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 3: I think you can win, James, I appreciate it.

1455
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 10: Like me and paddle tenness. I think you can win

1456
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 10: this all.

1457
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 3: Right, man, Well look, we always appreciate your time.

1458
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 4: We'll probably toop it out with you soon as these

1459
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 4: things continue to develop, and I'll see you so myself.

1460
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,479
Speaker 3: But thanks for time, buddy, Any time, guys,