1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Live from the Hartbeyer and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. So now we know in this 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: shooting in New York where four people were killed, and 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 2: it should never leave our minds that four people were killed. 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: It's very obvious that groups like CNN have no interest 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: at all at all in the truth. They have no 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: interest in knowing the data and knowing the facts. The 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 2: interest solely and exclusively is in how can we make 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: it racial? Tony Katz, Tony kats today, good to be 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: with you. When I say Aaron Burnett needs some time alone, 11 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: CNN should sit her down. What happened on CNN is insane. 12 00:00:55,000 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: It is as ignorant and ridiculous and dumb and unknown 13 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: necessary as anything out there. Now, I will say to 14 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: you that we all understand and I don't think I'm 15 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: telling you anything new here that everything cable news does 16 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: is focused on how do you make it racial? How 17 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 2: do you engage race? Oh there's got to be a 18 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 2: racial component. Oh, we got to make it like this, 19 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: because that's how they work their audience. They have no 20 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: respect for their audience in this regard. When you see 21 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: somebody who has walked into a building in New York 22 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: killed a cop, killed three other people, killed himself. First, 23 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 2: you want to be like, is this the only guy? 24 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 2: Is everybody now safe? 25 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: Now? 26 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: What the heck happened? That isn't what CNN does. As 27 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: Aaron Burnett is speaking to their law enforcement analyst with 28 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:52,279 Speaker 2: a long. 29 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: Gun visible, so it sounded like he other than the 30 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 4: long gun, which is not a simple thing to say, 31 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: other than in New York City, right, people don't walk 32 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 4: around with guns like that. 33 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: But was his face visible? I mean, do they they 34 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: have any idea at this point who he is? 35 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 5: They do not know who he is. They know he 36 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 5: is a male, possibly white. He's wearing sunglasses here. They 37 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 5: didn't know anything. 38 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: This is John Miller, their chief law enforcement and intelligence 39 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: analyst who needs to get fired. They didn't know anything, right, 40 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: They just said, we don't know anything. But he's possibly white, yes, 41 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: and he's possibly a kangaroo. Nobody knows anything. And yet 42 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: here they are, and I hear you, I hear you, 43 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: and I understand, Tony. This is what they do. They 44 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 2: gotta make everything racial. Oh, it's a it's a shooter. 45 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: It's got to be white. Ah, white, This white, everything 46 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: about them, everything about them facts are meaningless, meaningless. By 47 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: the way, this guy is not white. He's just not white. 48 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 2: Now the reporting is going to change. I assure you. 49 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: There was a note near him, and he was going 50 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: after the executives I guess of the NFL because the 51 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: NFL was housed in this building. He ended up killing 52 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: other people. People had nothing to do with it. It was 53 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: one report that he ended up on the wrong floor. 54 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: He ended up on the wrong side of the building, 55 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: and that's why he killed others. The building held Blackstone write, 56 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: some big big companies, Blacks in the NFL, good lord. 57 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: According to other report, this guy had a mental health history. 58 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: He had played football, I guess in high school. He 59 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: thought he had CTE. He wants his brain to be 60 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: looked at, and so he decided to shoot up the NFL. 61 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: He never played in the NFL. Based on all the 62 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: reporting I have at this moment, I can't tell you 63 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: why he did what he did. Although there's a lot 64 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: of information coming out. A lot of things have been 65 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: sent my way, including the possibility that Las Vegas officials, 66 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: because that's where he was from, New exactly exactly who 67 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: this guy was, and maybe warning was given. Well, what 68 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: was done about the warnings. That's a different conversations. We 69 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: get more information, but CNN going with possibly white from 70 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 2: their expert Aaron Burnett repeating it possibly white. You didn't 71 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 2: know anything. You did it on purpose because you're all 72 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 2: just terrible. I don't know why CNN wants to be terrible. 73 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: They don't have to be terrible. They can change all 74 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: of this. Some of us are ready to go. I 75 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 2: wouldn't even leave my radio gig. We'll have a better show, 76 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: we'll get better ratings. What are you doing, CNN? But 77 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: this is the kind of stuff that people hate. They 78 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: want facts, they want data, They want to trust, and 79 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: they can't. You were untrustworthy. Meanwhile, people are dead and 80 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: no one seems to be paying attention to that part 81 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: of it. I'll have more information for you as it 82 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: becomes available. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz. Today. 83 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 6: American consumer is plain and simple. Trump would have you 84 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 6: believe it's the biggest deal ever. Has his words, Dangley, 85 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 6: two hundred and fifty billion dollars of new energy purchases 86 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 6: and more new investments. They're just one heat cup. 87 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: It's fake. Even Today's Wall Street. 88 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 6: Journal has pierced this miasma called distortion. 89 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: You know, every time you hear Chuck Schumer talk, you 90 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 2: have to wonder, my god, his staff has to hear 91 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: that every day. That's rough, very rough. Tony kats, good 92 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: to be with you. Doctor Mattwell joins as economist at 93 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: the University of Indianapolis. Senator Schumer is talking about the 94 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: trade deal with the EU. It's fake, it's not real. Well, 95 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: it's clearly real. The question is how much of this 96 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: stuff would have come anyway? Deals on energy and deals 97 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: on on buying military hardware. Wasn't this going to be 98 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: purchased no matter what? But maybe the story here is 99 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: that got announced as a deal, which certainly has put 100 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: the European Union on its heels, saying, my gosh, how 101 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: could we have let this happen with a tariff of 102 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: fifteen percent of our goods and no tariff on the 103 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: vast majority of American goods. But in the end, the 104 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: question before us is what do we get out of it? 105 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: And how do we know that it's happening? So let's 106 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: start a doctor Matt Will, economist at the University of Indianapolis. 107 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: Where we start, which is you hear about this story 108 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: from the about this trade deal with the EU. We've 109 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: heard about other trade deals as well, it's the UK 110 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 2: or Japan, et cetera. 111 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 1: What say you, Well, first of all, let's start with 112 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: the terms. I like what I'm hearing as far as 113 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: the terms, and we've been forever. We just need clarity, 114 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: we need certainty, and we now know the framework. It's 115 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: pretty much going to be globally about a fifteen to 116 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: twenty percent tariff on all goods imported into the US. 117 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: We're going to have what we call trqs, which is 118 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: tariff rate quotas. That's what you just mentioned Tony about this. 119 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: They're going to buy all these things from US, military 120 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: hardware and other things. That was maybe going to happen anyway, 121 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: maybe not, because what it does is it creates a 122 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: zero for zero tariff, meaning that no tariffs on stuff 123 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: that goes back or forth in that category, which makes 124 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: our products more competitive. Our energy will be cheaper, our 125 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: military hardware will be cheaper. They're not going to go 126 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: to the UK, they're not going to go someplace else. 127 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: They're going to buy it from US. So that's a 128 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: really good thing. And they've agreed to invest in the USA, 129 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: So you know Schumer is completely wrong. There's a lot 130 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: of good parts to this, and the most important thing 131 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: is Wall Street loves that there's certainty. They now can 132 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: say we can move forward. We know what the terms 133 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: are going to be. That's been the biggest issue so 134 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: far is the uncertainty, and now we have certainty. 135 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: So this certainty is predicated on them actually buying from 136 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: the US right markets are going to be open and 137 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: there for the first time. Is it that they're going 138 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: to be buying or does a certainty come from fifteen 139 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: to twenty percent that's the tariff right now. Everybody can 140 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: budget if you will from that place. 141 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: It's both. It's both of those things. We know the 142 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: range to the tariffs. It's not going to be thirty 143 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: five fifty two hundred percent it's going to be fifteen 144 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: to twenty percent against for everyone in the world. That's 145 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: a good thing, and it makes our goods cheaper. It's 146 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: not that they're guaranteed to buy these things, Tony, but 147 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: when you remove all the trade barriers and all the tariffs, 148 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: US goods are going to be more affordable. So yes, 149 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: they will buy these things. If you're looking around to 150 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: buy a gun and you can buy a gun a 151 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: Burretta made in Italy, or you can buy one made 152 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: in the US. And by the way, Bretta makes guns 153 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: in the US, and the US made gun is cheaper. 154 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: That's that's what you're going to buy. Talking to doctor 155 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: Matt Will economists at the University of Indianapolis, that might 156 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 2: be true in, for example, the scenario that you just 157 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: laid forth. But we are saying that any good you 158 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 2: buy outside of something made in the US, and not 159 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: every good is made in the US, it's going to 160 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: be fifteen to twenty percent higher. Just deal with it. 161 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 2: This is coming correct. 162 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: Oh yes, In fact, you know I've been saying, with 163 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: all the good parts of these deals, there are bad parts. 164 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: There are losers in this. The losers are any company 165 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: that's a net importer. The loser is anything that's made 166 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: with steel or aluminum, and the biggest loser is you 167 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: and I. We're going to pay a fifteen percent tariff, Tony. 168 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: Let me explain very clearly what that is. That's a 169 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: fifteen percent national sales tax. We've never had that before. 170 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: And people need to be ready because corporations have been 171 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: reporting earnings this week, they're not good and they've indicated 172 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: they will pass along their price increases. Stillant has made 173 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: a huge announcement yesterday about that. 174 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: Now, let's get into this because this has been right. 175 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: You've got Bill Maher saying, I can't believe the tariffs 176 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 2: are working a lot of people are talking very very 177 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 2: well about the tariffs. Trump was right about the tariffs. 178 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: The argument has been, in a very rational way, tariffs 179 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: tactic fine, tariffa's policy I oppose. But the tariffs have 180 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 2: not been passed through. And whether it's it's General Motors, Toyota, 181 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: host people specifically on the auto manufacturing, they're not passing 182 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: the tariffs along, and the economics would dictate that that 183 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 2: cannot last for forever. Are you saying that the dam 184 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: is about to break and we're about to see the 185 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 2: price increases on the things we can't avoid spending on. 186 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and we've already seen it. Remember the last inflation 187 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: report we saw last week had an uptick inflation. Yet 188 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: today this week, okay, Stillant has announced a two point 189 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: sixty five billion dollar cut in or loss and they 190 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: warned we're going to increase car prices. Whirlpool, they cut 191 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: their dividend by fifty percent. Tony, that has not happened 192 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 1: in decades. And they make eighty percent of their appliances 193 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: in the US, and they said they're going to have 194 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: to increase costs. Novo Nordis Murk. They all cut guidance 195 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: these companies. Tony, you can't be a car maker and 196 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: lose money. So Lantas can't move lose two and a 197 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: half billion dollars without increasing prices. You will see a 198 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: price increase just I don't know when, but it'll be soon. 199 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: But with Silantis, we should at least admit that they 200 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: have not done the job in making the vehicles they 201 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 2: needed to over the last five years. They will admit 202 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 2: to that. You had the massive fight between the dealers 203 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 2: and the CEO of Carlos I'm forgetting his last name 204 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: right now, where he eventually got pushed out because the 205 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: cars were not well made and they weren't getting the 206 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 2: backup at the dealerships, and he basically said to the dealers, 207 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: I'm in charge, You'll do what I tell you. So 208 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: there is a specific story there regarding maybe their own losses. 209 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: Those aren't not in every situation. Is the tariff the 210 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: reason for the loss. 211 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: But Tony, you said it perfectly. And we talked about 212 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: this on one of your shows before. If we create 213 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: a tariff to protect a company like Stilantis or like Whrulepool, 214 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: does that make them a better company. Whirlpool's market share 215 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: went from forty two percent down to thirty two percent 216 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: last year. They had disastrous financial results reported this week. 217 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: And we're going to tariff to protect Wirlepool from competition. 218 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: We're going to tariff to protect the domestic Stilantis when 219 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: they're a bad company. Tariffs aren't going to make a 220 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: bad company into a good company. It's just going to 221 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: make them pain. 222 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: Prolonged talking to doctor Matt Will, economists at the University 223 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 2: of Indianapolis. Now we have these deals in place, everything 224 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: to me, all roads leads to a lead to what 225 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: happens to a deal with China. I had said, you 226 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 2: need Japan, you need Vietnam, you need South Korea, you 227 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: need India, you need those deals set until you see 228 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: a pressure point on China. But China has to be 229 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: paying attention to what it is they're seeing. Are they 230 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: trying to maneuver for a better deal, Are they trying 231 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: to maneuver for any deal, or are they still full 232 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: steam ahead, not worrying about what happens with the US. 233 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: I think they're full steam ahead, Tony. But China is 234 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: Can I say, a very technical nerdy a professional would stupid? 235 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: Ah? 236 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, that you might want to write that down and 237 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: look it up on Google. This we just found out 238 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: this week. India now exports more apple products to the 239 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: United States than China. Their exports are up two and 240 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: I see the world shifting away from China. We've talked 241 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: about this on your show before. That India is in 242 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: Bangladesh and Vietnam, these other places are starting to take 243 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: China's business. So yeah, China, they're probably walking along thinking 244 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: everything's going to be fine, and they look around and say. 245 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: Where'd all the businesses go? The the India being up 246 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 2: as China responded to this at all of they look 247 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 2: to reducing the costs of their of their production or 248 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: anything else. 249 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: No, No, that's that's That's why I call it pure stupidity. 250 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: They have not reacted to this. And really they're in 251 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: the cheap goods market. Other than making things like you know, 252 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: the iPhones and apple products, they mostly make the cheap 253 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: good products. They make the Chotsky's, they make the low, 254 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: low value items. So you know, they're just meandering along 255 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: getting eaten up by the competition. They're in a recession. 256 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: We all know this. I don't. I think China may 257 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: be a bystanderd at the end of the day. 258 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: China's bystander is certainly a an interesting topic. Doctor Mattwell, 259 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 2: economist at the University of Indianapolis. I appreciate you and 260 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: the conversation. I'm curious to see how they'll move. But 261 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: the idea that they'll simply accept that their dollars will 262 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: be lost to people like India and they'll just take it, 263 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: that seems to me to be a very, very far stretch. Now, 264 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: one of the things that we're not contemplating here is 265 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: what if they don't have an option, which is to say, 266 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: the weakness in China has already occurred. This goes back 267 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: to the whole idea of the population bomb, where if 268 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: you take a look at their population, they are set 269 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: to lose eight hundred million people over the next hundred years. 270 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 2: The one China policy decimated them. You have an aging population, 271 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: you have people not even having children now, never mind 272 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: getting married or anything like that, and you'd simply by 273 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: people die saying you're going to lose population. You're not 274 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 2: replenishing the population. That's what's happening. And so that's been 275 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: talked about this population bust, if you will, explosion, population bomb, 276 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: however you want to describe it. And then somebody else said, 277 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: the problem is is that their numbers don't make any sense. 278 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 2: They were arguing they were over a billion people X 279 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: number of years ago, but we know about their birth 280 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 2: rates and they argue they still have a larger population 281 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: than India. We know what India's birth rate is, and 282 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: simply if you take a look at the math, it's 283 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: not possible that China has this population. Now, the birth 284 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: rate was sixteen point seventy five, That is a three 285 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 2: point seven four percent increase from twenty twenty three. For 286 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five it's sixteen point five five, So that 287 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: was twenty twenty four one point one nine percent decline 288 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: from twenty twenty four. So that's the number of births 289 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 2: per one thousand in population. Right, So you can argue 290 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: that their birth rate has gone down considerably since the 291 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: nineteen fifties. But you could also argue that as quality 292 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: of light things get better, that often happens you see 293 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 2: birth rates go down all over the place. You see 294 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 2: this in a number of places. But if we were 295 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: talking about China's birth rate, and I'm not saying that 296 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: we are through this problem in the United States, We've 297 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 2: got this problem in the United States. Well, the Chinese 298 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 2: birth rate, they claim in twenty twenty four was ten 299 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: point four eight maybe, but in the year before that 300 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 2: it was six point thirty nine. The point becomes, first 301 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 2: of all, China lies about everything, absolutely everything that if 302 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: you just take a look at birth rate to birth rate, 303 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: India's got a bigger birth rate. In twenty twenty the 304 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: birth rate in India was sixteen point seventy four. In 305 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 2: China it was eight point five to two per thousand. 306 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 2: So the point becomes, what if this population explosion bomb 307 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 2: for China isn't what's coming. What if it's already here. 308 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 2: What if it already exists and they are already losing 309 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 2: population and the losing of these jobs is well insignificant 310 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: because they don't have the people to do the jobs anyway. 311 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: What if that's already coming, already happening. So when we 312 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: talk about this recession in China, that is true. But 313 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,640 Speaker 2: since China lies about everything. The communists lie about everything. 314 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: I tend to ask myself, what if it's far worse, 315 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 2: far worse than imagine, far worse than understood. What if 316 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: it's already happening. And some things they know they're going 317 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 2: to lose because they were going to lose it anyway, 318 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: And they can't fight certain fights because they're gonna have 319 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 2: to fight other fights. That's that is a thought that 320 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: can keep me up at night. But it's interesting, the numbers, 321 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 2: the data, it's all, it's all very very interesting stuff. Meanwhile, 322 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 2: let's see if these trade deals do work out for us. 323 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 2: I hope they do not. Everything about them says they will. 324 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: But one thing at a time. I'm Tony Katz. This 325 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 2: is Tony Katz today. I didn't get to this story yesterday, 326 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 2: and I apologize this again. I remind people do not 327 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 2: act up on a plane, and I would also equally 328 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 2: remind people that if somebody's acting up on a plane, 329 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 2: our job is to stop them. I'm not talking about 330 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: somebody who may legitimate right. I'm talking about these people 331 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: who yell and scream, or they're drunk, or they think 332 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 2: they're important. Our job is rational people, is to stop 333 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: them including physically, no matter what it takes. Tony Cats, 334 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 2: Tony Kats today is so good to be with you. 335 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: Now you're saying to me, my gosh, so violent. No 336 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 2: violent are the people who act up on airplanes. Here's 337 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: how you get. You deal with an airplane. You put 338 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: on a suit, You put on a suit, you show 339 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: up on time. You recognize that TSA is despicable, and 340 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 2: you work to elect people who will abolish it and 341 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: go back to privatizing security. Then you get to the gate, 342 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: you get on the plane, You sit down, Maybe you 343 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 2: put in your earbuds. Maybe you have yourself a snack, 344 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 2: You ask for a diet coke. Maybe maybe you ask 345 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 2: for a wine, depending on who you are, and you 346 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: can handle yourself. You enjoy the flight and you don't 347 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 2: do anything weird. That's it. You don't take off your shoes, 348 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: you don't wear a thought, you're not wearing a T 349 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: shirt that has the sleeves cut off, none of that. 350 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: You don't make a meal at your seat. Just be normal. 351 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 2: That's all you have to do. All you have to 352 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 2: do is be normal. You know what you don't do. 353 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 2: You don't do what this guy was doing. Death to America. 354 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: Death to Trump a lu akbar. That is a guy 355 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: that twelve men on the plane look at each other 356 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: and say okay, and they tackle this guy to the ground. 357 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: This is what has to happen from the very first moment, 358 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: the look we're in this together. Guys, you find them, 359 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: you tackle them to the ground. If his nose gets 360 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 2: broken in seventy two spots, oh well he must have tripped. Now. 361 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: Notice I didn't say, hey, find somebody on the plane 362 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 2: and go after them some What I said. I said, 363 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 2: you're not allowed to act up on a plane. And 364 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: I absolutely believe that it is imperative that the people 365 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: on the plane are all focused on this key task. 366 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: No one acting up on the plane, and if someone does, 367 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: their job is to handle it. This guy gotten way 368 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: too much yelling until he was finally tackled, way too 369 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: much time, as far as I see it. But this 370 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: is how it has to work. This is how it 371 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: has to happen. People have to be normal, and we 372 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: hold the standard. I don't care where you came from. 373 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: I don't care about how it's done in your culture, 374 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: or your religion or in your family. You act normal 375 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: on a plane. I need people to act normal. I 376 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 2: don't know about you. I can't get it done because 377 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: people are too busy being angry about everything, like, for example, 378 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: they're angry about Sidney Sweeney. 379 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 7: I'm to check the pulse. We begin with the backlash 380 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 7: of a new ad campaign featuring actress Sidney Sweeney. 381 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 4: The answer for American Eagle and the tagline is Sidney 382 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 4: Sweeney has great genes. 383 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 2: Now. 384 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 4: In one ad, the blondehair, blue eyed actress talks about 385 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 4: jeans as in DNA being passed down from her parents. 386 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 7: The play on words is being compared to Nazi propaganda 387 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 7: with racial undertones. 388 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 2: Liberals are terrible people and they need to be put 389 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: in their place. Now you say to me, Tony, what 390 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: does that mean. Well, if you're an American, you can 391 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 2: say what you will. You can say something as foolish 392 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: and moronic and outright dumb as you want. Now you 393 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 2: might say things that are violence and you don't have 394 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: to deal with the consequences of that. I don't support that. 395 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: I don't think you should do that. Just because the 396 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: leftist can say something doesn't mean that it gets left unsaid. 397 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: If you have a problem with Sidney Sweeney's commerce for 398 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: American Eagle and she's wearing the jeans. You're the problem. 399 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 2: Liberals are miserable, terrible, awful people, specifically liberal women, but 400 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: will throw liberal men in there because honestly, it's very 401 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: hard to tell the difference. Can you tell the difference 402 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 2: between a liberal woman and Chris Murphy? I didn't think 403 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: so miserable, awful, terrible, bigoted people who have no joy. 404 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: You can have no fun and can't accept the fact 405 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 2: that Sidney Sweeney is hot. Even though her face is 406 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: a little like weird, it's not a naturally beautiful face. 407 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: The body is unbelievable and everybody knows it. And we're 408 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: not gonna pretend that it's not happening. And she's not 409 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: shying away from it, and she's not hiding it. She's like, 410 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 2: this is what I look like. This is how the 411 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: Good Lord made me. Now you'll excuse me, I'm gonna 412 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: go have myself a career. Liberals, the problem with this 413 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: ad is that, oh, she has good genes and it's 414 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 2: Nazi this and no it's not. I have never once 415 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: looked at Sidney Sweeney, it said to myself Third Reich. 416 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: Never has happened, I have I am right now staring 417 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: at the commercial with Sidney Sweeney. I want to share 418 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: with you now the very last thing that has come 419 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: to my mind spring time for head and Germany dud 420 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: lines happy nowhere near my brain. You know what is 421 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: on my brain? All right, alright, alright, yes that is accurate. 422 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry. Am I not supposed to notice? I 423 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: am a man? I notice, I notice. I'm sorry. Someone's 424 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: gonna tell me, Oh, this is toxic and this is terrible. Boom, 425 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: not listening to you. You sound ridiculous. Those people sound silly. 426 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: They sound like the people saying, oh, this ad is 427 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 2: Nazi propaganda. Stop it. 428 00:25:59,720 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 7: What. 429 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 2: I can't celebrate Caitlin Clark in the WNBA, because oh, 430 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 2: you only celebrate white people again with the racism everywhere 431 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 2: on everything, the bigotry, the hate which comes of course 432 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: from liberals who are always miserable about everything, everything, everywhere, 433 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: all the time, angry, ridiculous, terrible people. It is up 434 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: to us, just like in the case of the person 435 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: on the plane acting up on the plane, it is 436 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 2: up to us to not allow them to have any 437 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 2: say in our society. By being up to us, it 438 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 2: actually puts an onus on us, and it's not like 439 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 2: we wanted any other work to do. We're busy, right, 440 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 2: We've got lives. It would be great if we were 441 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 2: just left alone. But we're not left alone. And who's 442 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: really not left alone are our kids? Kids are not 443 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: left alone, and they're going to see all over their 444 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: social media feeds. Oh my gosh, this commercial is about 445 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: Nazi propaganda. It is up to you to tell your 446 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: kid or your grandkid or whatever. Did you see this 447 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: ridiculous story about how they're upset with Sidney Sweeney. Think 448 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 2: that's Nazi propaganda? It is not Nazi propaganda. What an 449 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 2: absolutely terrible and ridiculous thing to say, foolish as the 450 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 2: day is long. This is is the ad. This is 451 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 2: the ad that that's I'm not here to tell you 452 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 2: to buy American egle chains, and I definitely won't say 453 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 2: that they're the most comfortable chance I've ever worn, or 454 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: that they make your butt look amazing. I'm going to 455 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: need to do that. 456 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: But if you said that you want to buy the jeans, 457 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm not going to stop you. 458 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 3: But us the we're clear, this is not me telling 459 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 3: you to buy American egle chance. 460 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: Sidney's Tweeney has very keen. That's the ad. If you're 461 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: offended by that, I see, I shouldn't say you because 462 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 2: I know it's not you, and I do that sometimes 463 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 2: I speak in the wrong person, like I assume everybody's 464 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 2: with me when I say what's wrong with you? Or 465 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: why would you? Why would you say that? You know 466 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about them, But 467 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 2: I really should say I'm talking about them. So let's 468 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 2: talk about these people. 469 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 3: If if. 470 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: There is somebody offended by this, that person is broken 471 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 2: and broken people should not be allowed to run our society. 472 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: Broken people should be looked at as broken, and we 473 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: should all say in a collective voice, ah, you have 474 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 2: a problem with Sydney Sweeney's ad about pants. Oh boy, 475 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: you don't care. That's your problem. See I did it. 476 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: That's not your problem, that's their problem. See. I gotta 477 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: really work on that. 478 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: I have. 479 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 2: I have to figure out a way to do that. 480 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: I do it's it is a problem that's haunted me 481 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 2: my entire career. Anyway, let's focus back on the thing. 482 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: Forget these people. Liberals are miserable, terrible, angry people. This 483 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: is not an intellectual argument that they are making. They 484 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: put a hot chick in Jeans. Dear lord, we're back 485 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 2: to brook Shields and what was it Jordan ash Or 486 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: was a Calvin Klein. Nothing gets between me and my Calvins. 487 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 2: This is where we're at. Nothing is new. It's all 488 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 2: just a little bit of history, repeating, they say the 489 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: next thing. It seems that it's all just a little 490 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: bit of history. I just needed an excuse to play it. 491 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: I was just in the mood, That's all there was. 492 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: There is no end to progressive depravity on these subjects 493 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: where somehow you should feel bad or feel shame or 494 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: be outraged by that are normal. Normal. By the way, 495 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 2: I don't think Sidney Sweeney is a size zero. She 496 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: seems like somebody who's built like a woman. Yes, she's 497 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 2: in she's in very good shape. Yes she has an 498 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: excellent body and and and yes, not every woman looks 499 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 2: like her. I wholeheartedly agree. Not not every guy looks 500 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: like somebody who's in an Abercrombie and Fitch catalog. True, right, 501 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 2: But I think that part of what makes Sidney Sweeney 502 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 2: attractive is that it is a body type that that 503 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: would be seen as what's it isn't It isn't far fetched. 504 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: I think that's the best way to put it. She 505 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: seems normal, right, And this is an American eagle saying 506 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: this is normal. She's a celebrity. We put her in 507 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: the commercial. What should we have put a three hundred 508 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: pound person in the commercial in our genes and say, oh, 509 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: these genes make look great. Nine if you're three hundred pounds, 510 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: they might not. Is the real issue that we have 511 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: left this idea of celebrating obesity and things that are 512 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: truly unattractive for things that have much more of an 513 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: attractive opportunity. And maybe that's better, Maybe that sells. Maybe 514 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: that's how America envisions itself. Maybe America doesn't want the 515 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: nonsense heaped upon them. We go back to bud Light 516 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: and what they did with the Dylan Laney nonsense, and 517 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: this terrible vice president was like it was too frat culture, 518 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 2: and bud Light was to this, we need to be 519 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: more inclusive and more welcoming. Well you don't do that 520 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: by taking a man who pretends to be a little 521 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: girl and say, see, this is what we want our 522 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,239 Speaker 2: drinker to be. This is what we want a beer 523 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 2: drinker to be. No, no, no, don't lecture us. We 524 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: just want to have a beer at the end of 525 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 2: the week or at the end of the day, or 526 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 2: for the party or whatever. 527 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 3: It is. 528 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 2: Just sell us the beer and shut up. That's all. 529 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: Not everything has to be a story of social anything, 530 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: social justice, this social warrior that. And maybe we're tired 531 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: of the hollywood esque view of beauty because you people 532 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: don't know beauty. You threw Lizzo at us. I have 533 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: nothing against Lizzo as an artist, but you can't tell 534 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 2: me that Obeste Lizzo was attractive. Obeselizzo was never attractive. 535 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: Someone could have found or attractive. But that would be 536 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 2: somebody who's on the very, very very one sided bell curve. 537 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: On the other side are a lot of people like nope, 538 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 2: because objectively not attractive. The end, Well, Tony, you're a racist, Ah, 539 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: screw off, you know I'm right. Why can't we be 540 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: honest with each other. More people are gonna consider Sidney 541 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: Sweeney more attractive than Lizzo, More people would consider Halle 542 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 2: Berry attractive than Lizzo. Facts, more people would consider Brad 543 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: Pitt more attractive than me. You know what, We call 544 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: those people terrorists. But that's not the story right now. 545 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: There are realities. Could we pretend that we're all normal. 546 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: All I'm looking for is people to be normal, and 547 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 2: liberals can't be normal. They can't they can't just be 548 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: people like, Okay, that's a commercial. I'm not gonna buy 549 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 2: those jeans Nazi propaganda. Will these progressives please stop being 550 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 2: weird and let us remember what they do and who 551 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: they are and make sure they never get elected, make 552 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: sure they never have positions of power. You can't let 553 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 2: people this angry about a commercial about pants be in charge. 554 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: Thus end at the lesson. This is Tony Katz today, 555 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 2: and just so we could say now we've seen everything, 556 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 2: here is the President of the United States, Donald John 557 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 2: Trump saying, the media has been terrific. 558 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 3: Thank you everybody, and thank you to the media. The 559 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 3: meetia has been terrific. Believe it or not. 560 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: I didn't use to see you use the word fake. 561 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 3: News one time, not one time. 562 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: Today. 563 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 3: They're not fake news today, They're wonderful news. 564 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: But I just want to thank you. 565 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 3: They've treated us really well, and they respect what we've 566 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 3: done really at a level that you rarely see nowadays. 567 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 3: So I really very much appreciate it. 568 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 2: My god, Okay, it's happening. Everybody say what's a procedure, 569 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 2: what's going on? Holy crap, I am freaking out. So 570 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: that happens. Oh, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to 571 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: be with you. Trade deals announced, more relations, better relations 572 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 2: with the UK announced and opening up a new whole 573 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 2: Trump golf thing and and nay, thanks reporting, guys, you 574 00:34:54,840 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: know what your swell. I wonder if there's anybody who 575 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: still takes the fake news stuff seriously, meaning I get it. 576 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,240 Speaker 2: As we talked about with CNN and this whole shooting 577 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 2: that took place in New York at the NFL headquarters. 578 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 2: People lie all the time. CNN flat out fraudulent. As 579 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned, I'm not saying that it doesn't exist. 580 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 2: I'm just saying does it affect people like it used to? 581 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: Which is interesting because here in my beloved Indiana, the 582 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 2: Secretary of State Diego Morales labeled my home station fake 583 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: news because we're asking questions about him and he doesn't 584 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:42,280 Speaker 2: like questions about him, so therefore we're fake news. It's hilarious, 585 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 2: and his communications director is doubling down on this. It's 586 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 2: just so embarrassing. Do you think you're Trump? It's everyone 587 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 2: wants to be him, but there's only one, so man, 588 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe they appreciate the media of the 589 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 2: reprieve on being called fake news, but don't worry. Tomorrow 590 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 2: they'll be back at it. Well, we all know that 591 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 2: find everything at tonykats dot com. War is coming up. 592 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 2: It's tony Kats Today