1 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Dead and Hip Hop Podcast. I 2 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: guess we'll figure out exactly how what. 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: To call it, but. 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know our pilot, the pilot, the pilot. 5 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: The voices you. 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: Hear is Rod, the voice you are familiar with, and 7 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: another voice a number if you are familiar with, is 8 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: Spike from on Deck TV show What's going On Fellas. Uh, So, 9 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited about this man. You know, Rod and 10 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: I we met in December, and you know, we've been 11 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: going through a lot of changes on dead End and 12 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: we're just we're talking about ways to move forward and 13 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: ways to kind of reinvent ourselves and you know, so uh, 14 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: this was. 15 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: Was one of the ideas. 16 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: And we got here with the two of us kind 17 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: of working together, partner together to figure out ways to 18 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: bring stuff to you guys with value and uh and 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: that's informative and entertaining. So we hope you guys rock 20 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: with this. We welcome all feedback moving forward on ways 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: to improve what you guys like, what you guys didn't like. 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: So uh, but but we. 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys listening to tuning in and giving us 24 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: a shot. 25 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: I just want to say I'm really interested in this, 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: Like this is a very like I'm reading as I 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 3: read and run down into the craft startup industry thing 28 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 3: I want to I'm really interested in seeing how this 29 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: goes and seeing y'all and being a part of doing 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 3: this with other artists too. 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: Since this is the beginning, I'm gonna give you guys 32 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: kind of an overview of how it's gonna go. So 33 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna open with current news man things that's just 34 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: happening and in the in the culture that's worth talking about, 35 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 1: So we'll open with that. Then we're gonna pay tribute man. 36 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: Uh well, we'll just talk about some old school hip 37 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: hop legends, so we have that. We will recognize some 38 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: of the greats that are no longer here and maybe 39 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: even some industry trends that are no longer here with 40 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: the pot out of little liquor segment, you know, so 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: it's not always about artists that pass. It could be 42 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: about a trend that's no longer popping anymore. And then 43 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, maybe kind of have this big overall like 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: main theme conversation, you know as well, and then we'll 45 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: close out with an artist spotlight, you know, somebody that 46 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: we have our ear to the streets that you guys 47 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: need to be paying attention to. So that's kind of 48 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,839 Speaker 1: like the outline that we have so far. And and yeah, 49 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: we'll preach out you guys listening, and let us know 50 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: what you guys think. So let's start with our hip 51 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: hop minute. Fortunately, there's a lot of news that happened, 52 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: And the first one that happened, y'all, was about Kanye 53 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 1: West apologizing for his behavior over the last couple of 54 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: years to the point where we don't even and it's 55 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: been very detrimental to him, very harmful to his brand. 56 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: Harmful to a lot of cultures. 57 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: He's insulted, you know, the Jewish community, the Black community, 58 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. We stopped covering him on the 59 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: show be Tapped all the Way Out. Black People tapped 60 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: all the Way Out with Kanye, and he took out 61 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: an ad in the Wall Street Journal apologizing to everyone 62 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: and saying that it was due to the accident that 63 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: he had in two thousand and well it was twenty 64 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: five years ago, and he said in twenty twenty three 65 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: he was diagnosed with a with having bipolar type one 66 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: mental issues or whatever. So yeah, so it's this big 67 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: long thing that he wrote or somebody else wrote on 68 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: his behalf. What do you guys think, Man, is this 69 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: gonna work for Kanye? Do you guys like where we 70 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: at with with with what he's doing with this? 71 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 4: I think people will look just over it, bro Like 72 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: to be quite honest, like I think it's it's like, Okay, 73 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 4: who cares at this point, it's going on way too long. 74 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 4: He's allowed this thing to go on way too long. 75 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 4: And I also feel like he's apologized before, kind of 76 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 4: taking it back, like like it's been too many times 77 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 4: where he's just you know, when his brand takes a 78 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 4: really significant hit, he apologized. I want to say he 79 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 4: did something with Charlamagne one time he did an interview 80 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 4: with then when he opened up and was talking about 81 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: a lot of the things, I think that's what we 82 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: found out about the bipolar Then right then he went 83 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 4: then he went like the Christian route where he didn't 84 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 4: rap and cursing his music, and you know, he was 85 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 4: just trying not to defend that way. Like we've seen 86 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 4: so many different so many different things man, that I 87 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 4: don't know. I think at this point people are just 88 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 4: over like like people that were fans like, are just 89 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: over now. He still has this cult following on me, 90 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 4: you know, but I think just regular Kanye with West fans, 91 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 4: I think they just don't care enough. I think the 92 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 4: only thing that could even remotely or possibly fix this 93 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: is if he's somewhat tapped into what people cared about before, 94 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 4: which is the music, right the way he did the music. 95 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 4: I think that's the only thing that could even remotely 96 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 4: possibly fix this after you know, immediately you know, following 97 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 4: the apology right Like to me, it just doesn't matter. 98 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 4: It's just like it just blows in the wind and 99 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 4: I saw it and it's just like, okay. 100 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 3: Next thing, I'm with Rod and being that I do 101 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: a podcasting on the TV show with a self described 102 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: Kanye West. He was explaining to me of how sincere 103 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 3: this apology sounded can and I'm like, bro, just like 104 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: with Russ said, I don't care. I'm not reading that 105 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: it's over, like I stopped caring, Like, I don't like 106 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 3: you can be as sincere. It could be great. It 107 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: could be turning a new leaf. He had a he 108 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 3: has an interview with Vanity Fair. It's coming out. I 109 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 3: think too was already came out, so mainstream entities are 110 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 3: starting to talk. 111 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 5: To him now and they off of the stuff that 112 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 5: he did. 113 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 3: But as a casual or just regular Kanye fan, I'm 114 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 3: like with Rod saying, like the music like if the music, 115 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 3: like if something, and I'm not going to listen to 116 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 3: the album unless somebody sends it to me and be like, no, 117 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 3: you have to like that. It's gonna take I'm not 118 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: going like, I'm not gonna be curious, Like none of 119 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: that's going to happen in the sense of I'm waiting 120 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 3: on this or paying any attention to anything that he does, 121 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: like you were saying earlier, Rod, like I cut him 122 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 3: off in my world a long time ago, like I 123 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 3: don't hate him or anything like that. You can just 124 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: exist over there and I don't in my our world, 125 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 3: like you're not gonna even register on I don't read 126 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: the tweets, I don't nothing that you do comes across 127 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: my desk. 128 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 2: He needs to have protocols in place. 129 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: For when he has one of the episodes that people 130 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: take his stuff away. 131 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 2: You know. 132 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: He apologized again to the Jewish communities. 133 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 2: He wrote he. 134 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: Said, it does not excuse what I did, though I 135 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: am not a Nazi or anti semi, I love Jewish people. 136 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: I was like, oh okay. Then to the black. 137 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: Community, which we got the shortest paragraph of all. We 138 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: got like two sentences, which held me down through all 139 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: the highs and lows in the darkenest of times. The 140 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: black community is unquestionably the foundation of who I am. 141 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to have let you down. 142 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: I love us, and that's what he said. So it 143 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: feels like it might be too late for Kanye to 144 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: come back. I do find it interesting that this is 145 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: on the heels of an album, an album that was 146 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: actually supposed to come out Friday, pushed back, that push 147 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,119 Speaker 1: back to March, and Bully got pushed back to March. 148 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: Apology, Wall Street. 149 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: Journal covered by Everybody, Vanity Fair interview, other interviews lined up. 150 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: Now we're building up, and this could all just be 151 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: part of the plan, because you know, nobody's really interested 152 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: and everybody's done with you, and it's hard to get 153 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: back in black people's good graces. Bro, when when they 154 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: when they turn it back on you, it's it's it's 155 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: really really difficult. And and I and I you know, 156 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: and I hope he I hope he's sincere. His actions 157 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: would tell but one of the things that Kanye has 158 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: is that he has this and this could always be 159 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: the excuse are the reason for why he's behaving the 160 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: way he did, so we'll find out. 161 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 4: In November he went, y'all remember when he went and 162 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:14,719 Speaker 4: talked to the rabbi. Yeah, it's like, I mean, I 163 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: don't know, like, like, why is this even? 164 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 5: Like you know, it's like it's like. 165 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: The old fairy tail that we all learned who was 166 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: coming up the boy, the crowd Wolf were all the 167 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 3: townspeople now like you like, Bro, you're gonna do this apology, 168 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 3: You're gonna drop this album, and then maybe a year 169 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 3: from now, two years from now, you're gonna do some 170 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: crazy shit and we're gonna be like, oh, Kanye, wish 171 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 3: this something crazy and oh no, Like it's just we 172 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: don't care, bro. Like it's so I think people with 173 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 3: so much shit going on today, people are really more 174 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 3: so now picking and choosing what they are deciding to 175 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 3: let bother them. And Kanye was not one of those things. 176 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: And I don't think that he's Like the music can 177 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: be good, but that place that he had with most people, 178 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: if they not stand, he'll never get that. 179 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 4: Back, you know, he'll never get it back. 180 00:09:58,679 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 5: He don't got it. 181 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: Ain't a another Jesus walks or through the wire or 182 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 3: slow jams that he could do. 183 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 5: They make it, they can get that back. 184 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: I think people were always like from a distance, they 185 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: may be more open to him than they are right now. 186 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: So this little pr campaign that he's doing could work 187 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: in the sense of now I will read the New 188 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 3: York Times article, now I will go check out the 189 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 3: album Versus My Stance that I have now if I 190 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: hear more farm him, But it'll never I'll never be 191 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: in a place that I was with him. Like most 192 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: people that fuck with him was like, oh he was 193 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: one of the best ever and this, that and the 194 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: third like only speaking highly of him, like he's burnt 195 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: that bridge with me. 196 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: Moving on, man, speaking of burnt bridges, we have Pharrell 197 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: and Chad Hugo at Odds again. This hit the text 198 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: Threads earlier this week. 199 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: And Chad is suing Pharrell. 200 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: He filled a federal lawsuit in January twenty twenty six 201 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: a legend and fraudulent conduct reach a contract and withholding 202 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: millions and royalties from their joint music production and Nerve 203 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: ANYRD project to suit demands a full accounting and claims damages, 204 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: potentially a seeding one million mark in a major split. 205 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: Pharrell has responded and said that it's a little premature 206 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: and that he's there. He's also surprised by this as well, 207 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: and that they're working with them to get this whole 208 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: thing resolved. So yeah, he said, standard of counter review 209 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: is already in process progress. The lawsuit filed as premature 210 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: as there may not even be a dispute between the parties. 211 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: This is what one of his reps said. 212 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: If the counter review determines the money is old, the 213 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: appropriate party will pay. Are we surprised by this? Considering 214 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: Pharrell has been in a mess. 215 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: For the last couple of months. 216 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 4: I think again, this is one of the things I 217 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 4: can just care less about. Honestly, this one, I really 218 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: I saw it. It was like, oh, you know, just 219 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 4: give him a million dollars, like, like, you obviously have 220 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 4: made more than than Chad at this point. He was 221 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: once where your friend or corrd or whatever like just 222 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 4: get to him, Like, I don't even know y'all can 223 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 4: sell this outside of court, honestly, And when I saw it, 224 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 4: it just it's just not as much money as IM 225 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: sure Pharrell has now it? 226 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: Come on, bro, like. 227 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 4: Just just selling this out of court. 228 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 3: I'm with Rod in the sense of, even if you're 229 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: not friends anymore, I find it highly unlikely that you 230 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: hate the guy. 231 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 5: I feel like for. 232 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: Real has been fairly successful since they're split. As to 233 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: where if I'm going to court with somebody that may 234 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 3: used to be my man's right here he go to 235 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: a million bro like, I may, I may not like you, 236 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 3: I may not mess with you, but here, especially based 237 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: off all the bad publicity that he's been getting here 238 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: lately in the news, I don't want another negative thing 239 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: out there about me if I'm for Real to where 240 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 3: people start now me? 241 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 5: So yeah, this could have been settled. 242 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: I feel like so many different other ways, And I 243 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: don't want to hear that we're not friends. I don't 244 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: want to hear there's no like the relationship isn't amplical, 245 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: but y'all were once friends. 246 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 5: Give them get a man this money, even if you 247 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 5: own them not. I feel like it's just here, just bro, 248 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 5: pH Real just gifted push your t five hundred thousand 249 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 5: dollars car, Like, come on, bro, who were you talking about? 250 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 5: I know Chad, Like I bet Chace. 251 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: So that was like, nick, me just give this nigga. 252 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: Cha was like he was like, you don't run it. 253 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 5: You know lost. So we were sitting on go file 254 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 5: that ship. 255 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 4: Now, Bro, can you imagine like what this man was 256 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 4: saying in his head when he saw that if Pharrell 257 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 4: constantly be gifting people, that's like giving him Louis but 258 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 4: like when he gave Beyonce like Louis bad on the runway, 259 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: Like he always like like, man to see that, bro, 260 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 4: Like I'm sure he'd be like, man, look all. 261 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:14,079 Speaker 1: Right, yeah real chat should should just start a tech 262 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: company as a person of color and apply for one 263 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: of those Yeah, if you gets some money that way. Yeah, 264 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: I was interested people actually care about this, but because 265 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you guys are actually putting this 266 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: in chat okay uh But anyway, the other thing that 267 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: hit the chat, uh Drake won't let it go. He's 268 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: a pilling the lawsuit dismissal. 269 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: Is this real? 270 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 5: Is this actually real? 271 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: Miss Music Business Worldwide dot Com covered it, everybody else 272 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: is covered it, and he said that the brief argues 273 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: Spike and Rod that the district Court created a dangerous 274 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: categorical rule that rap distracks can never be actionable. 275 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: The nerve. 276 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 5: What did you guys think? 277 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 4: Why is he acting like he did to participate in 278 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 4: this beef. 279 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: I think the wackiest part about this is I'm not 280 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 3: a Drake fan. I do appreciate his music, but I 281 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 3: feel like his lawyers is just dicking him around. 282 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 5: Bro, like, yeah, we can do this and. 283 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: Give us a million more dollars, and we can do 284 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 3: this because to the point of that statement that you 285 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: just read, Ken, that is a high precedent to set 286 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: for a court to be like, no one ever can 287 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: use or rap this song as defamation the character. Someone 288 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: could go in there and say the truth on a 289 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 3: this song and then the person will be like, well, 290 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 3: I mean. 291 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 5: It's a this song. You said in this Drake Kendrick 292 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 5: case that I couldn't do that. 293 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: So I do understand the appeal and that they may 294 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: win it, but why continue, Like if I don't care 295 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 3: about that president or nothing. If I'm Drake, let me 296 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: go work on my album, let me get this shit 297 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 3: over with. I feel like he's getting bad advice from lawyers. 298 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: He really wants to separate from UMG, and that's why 299 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 3: he's straining this out he doesn't care how this looks 300 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: on his image. Us as rap fans, we're just tired 301 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 3: of all of this, would rather him get back to 302 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: the music. But with that being said, the lawyer is 303 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: the smart person here because he does have a point. 304 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: If Kendrick or UMG did the things that he's a 305 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: legend that they did, right, and that's the issue, Like, well. 306 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 3: Wait Ken not that this is just the appeal though 307 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 3: they still that's still on the table. This right here 308 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: is only about them saying that you can't use a 309 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 3: this song as defamation of character. That's all the appeal 310 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 3: is about. They still ain't even going to address none 311 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: of that other stuff. That's only if this appeal goes. 312 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 3: So that's why I said it was smart by the 313 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 3: lawyer that just focused on Also, you're saying that people 314 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: can't be deflammatory to your character via dissol the judge is. 315 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: Gonna have to be like, well, yeah, well it depends, 316 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: because it seemed like Judge Vargas was very very clear 317 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: in where she stood so and one of the things 318 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: that she ruled is that constitute a protected opinion rather 319 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: than actionable defamation. And I think that is a very 320 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: very key line that they're going to have to win 321 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: outside of just saying, hey, so if somebody say something 322 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: about me, you mean we can't do anything about it. 323 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 1: They both engage in this sort of mutslinging to one another, 324 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: but only one of them decides that the other went 325 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: over the line, and I don't know how he's going 326 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: to be able to win that argument. And that's yeah, yeah, 327 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: just saying that, you're just setting a precedent. 328 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 2: It's like setting a precedent. 329 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: Nah, how about you bring something that's actually winnable, you know, 330 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: where we can really have an honest discussion about, you know, 331 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: when when rap lyrics. 332 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 2: Go too far. 333 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,239 Speaker 4: So yeah, I thought that's why you said they were 334 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 4: digging him around, because he's just gonna end up losing 335 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 4: this shit too. 336 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, either way, he had to pay them more money. 337 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: And if you win, you gotta pay more money because 338 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: now you're going to court again. 339 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 5: Like it's it's they got. 340 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 4: The judge is just like, oh my god. 341 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: You know she's just like nigga, get over it. 342 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 4: Like I know she probably just want to say that, 343 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 4: Like I'm sure she just wanted to say, like, bro, 344 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 4: just just stop it, stop it. You're defaming yourself right now. 345 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 346 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: I think the only play that I could see that 347 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: makes sense, which I don't see happening because they got 348 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 3: all the money in the world, is if UMG finally 349 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: throw their hands up, people be like, man, what whatever, Like, 350 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 3: you can get out of your contract, bro be gone. 351 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: We're not dealing with you no more. You're not hot 352 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 3: no more. But I don't think they would do that 353 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 3: because they got more money than God. They just gonna 354 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 3: keep sending their lawyers to court. 355 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 5: It what the good news is, we got more money 356 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 5: than God. 357 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, well we'll see. 358 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: The last thing, you know, is they argued is that 359 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: Judge Bargains made an error by considering the song only 360 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: within the context of the entire rap battle between Drake 361 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: and Kendrel Lamar, and that of all the songs published 362 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: during the rap beef, the recording is the only one 363 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: that broke through the noise and achieved cultural ubiquity, probably 364 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: because it was a really good song that he put 365 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: out and it was a hit, you know, not because 366 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,719 Speaker 1: it was being super promoted or whatever. 367 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: But you know, we'll see. 368 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: But I think the big takeaway is that, well, one 369 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: of the things that I agree with is that We're 370 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: ready to move on. Bro, let us move on, you know. 371 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: So yeah, that has been the hip hop minute. Some 372 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: pretty big stuff that happened last week.