WEBVTT - Euphoria - “Kitty Likes to Dance” (S3, E4) 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:10.639 The Frames per Second podcast, What's going on in ship Boy? 0:00:10.760 --> 0:00:14.160 Nick, I'm here with the right How y'all doing? 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:16.079 What's up? 0:00:16.120 --> 0:00:16.320 Man? 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:19.919 I am Spike Lou of the on Deck TV show 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:20.400 How you doing? 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:21.480 Man? What up? 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:21.640 Though? 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:28.840 Pretty good? And Mike c town Yo and Ken Spying 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:31.640 hold off and you now. 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:34.560 Tune in into another episode of Frans per Second Podcast. 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:37.640 And in this episode, we are continuing on with our 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:41.720 weekly recaps of the hit HBO original series starring Z 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:47.120 and Dea titled Euphoria. This recap will be dedicated episode four, 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.839 going off of what I was mistakenly saying last recap 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:54.680 that y'all was clowning me for Kitty likes to dance. 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:58.280 So we finally got to that one. I wasn't just 0:00:58.360 --> 0:00:59.160 fooling out of my ask. 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:03.400 But yeah, we are four episodes, iny, What did you say? 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.720 Was it? Is it eight episodes the season or nine? 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:08.480 I didn't say nothing, because I have no idea. I 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:10.040 think it is something around. 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:10.840 That it's short though. 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:12.800 It's not like we may be halfway through the season 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:17.760 at this point, I believe, or at least one episode. Hey, okay, 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:20.560 so then yeah, we are halfway through the season already. 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:25.120 So that's crazy how time is going. But but yeah, 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:27.559 I want to get us overall thoughts on this episode 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:29.240 because I think it will be a very interesting conversation. 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:31.560 But I want to start off with Mike because we 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:34.240 weren't able to get your thoughts on episode three, So 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:37.640 catch us up to did you enjoy last episode and 0:01:37.680 --> 0:01:38.839 how you feel about this one? 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.200 Yeah, I thought last episode was the best episode of 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:47.520 the season so far. I really liked last episode, especially 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:49.560 when they were whooping dates ass and they cut they 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:55.800 cut off his pinky toe. I liked it. This new one, 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.800 it was It was a pretty big step down. It 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:02.000 was fine. It wasn't a bad episode. It was nowhere 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:05.800 near as good as last week, though, and it's mainly 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:08.520 due to the fact that I don't care about Cassie's 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.680 story and I don't I don't like this Nate. They 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:14.840 should have just got a different actor and just acted 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:17.919 like this was like a multiverse or some shit, because 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:22.560 this Nate sucks. So yeah, this this episode wasn't was 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:24.840 It wasn't bad, It wasn't trash or anything. It just 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:25.680 it just wasn't great. 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:30.120 I saw people wanting to know what you thought about 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:32.920 the faz thing because I think you were the one 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:36.240 that was adamant that you didn't want to see Fez 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.880 talking on the phone or something like that. You remember that, 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:41.520 remember saying that in one of the one of the 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:42.360 last episodes. 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.080 I don't remember saying that, but I do believe you 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:46.680 that I said that, And if I said that, I 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.400 take it back. I thought what they did with with 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:53.760 rud talking on the phone to him was super respectful. 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:58.680 And I didn't know this until a friend of mine 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.880 told me, But that was like something he Whatever she 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:04.400 said to him was something that he always says on 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:08.760 his Instagram posts. Fuck I forget what it like one 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.200 love or some you know, some old school ass rap phrase. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.800 Fans would always put that in his Instagram post. So 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:18.200 she said that to him on the phone, So I thought. 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:23.920 I thought it was good. I liked it. So what 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:28.400 about your thoughts, lou can you hear me? 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:30.440 Yeah? Always muted. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.920 It was a significant step down from last week. I 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:39.600 don't I didn't like a lot of this. I didn't 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:44.200 like Jewels part. I didn't care about Cashie's part. I 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:45.960 did not want to see Ruby a snitch. I know 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.400 we had a long conversation about that here last week. 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.880 And they took it exactly where I didn't want them 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:53.720 to go because I feel like that's so played out, 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.600 like all the normal tropes that you hit with somebody 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.200 wearing a wire, they hit him, uh, the boss suspected 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:00.680 them like it was just so cliche. 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:01.840 I didn't like any of that. 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:05.240 So the episode in itself isn't bad, but it don't 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.440 live up to last week, and I don't like where 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:09.680 it's going as far as a plot. 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.760 All Right, Rod and A, I'm I'm solidity, y'all gonna 0:04:15.760 --> 0:04:17.120 start with nay and then Rob, you go ahead and 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:17.640 follow up. 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:24.080 So y'all know, I was underwhelmed with last episode and 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.280 I was slightly underwhelmed with this one. 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:30.599 I agree it was even with me being underwhelmed, this 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:35.360 was a step down. I like, I don't really want 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:38.000 to see Wu as a switch. 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.920 I understand in the story how we got here, sure, 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:42.000 does it make sense? 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:44.920 Sure, but the. 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:50.880 Tension and yeah, the cliche tension of do they know? 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:51.800 Do they not know? 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:56.360 While I don't like it if honestly the only thing 0:04:56.360 --> 0:05:01.119 that really kept my attention this episode, because you've grown 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.040 such an affinity for Rude that you don't want to 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.720 see anything happen to her, so but it still feels like. 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:08.920 Very dumb. 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:12.120 So yeah, that was a bit of a disappointment. But 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.960 I did like the comparison they did of sex. 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.000 Work in this episode. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:21.240 I thought that was interesting, and even though it was short, 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:26.640 I actually liked the conversation that Jules's artwork brought up. 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:28.760 So there were things. 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:30.839 About it that I liked, but it wasn't enough to 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:32.960 make me like the episode. 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:38.719 That's a really good breakdown because I share saying symphonis 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:43.400 to a certain degree. Yeah, just like I don't know 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.799 if it was because we talked about it so heavily 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.159 last week is why I was annoying or if I'm 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:52.599 actually annoyed by it, because I think it does work 0:05:52.760 --> 0:05:55.240 in the story and it was intriguing in person. 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.360 It did bring some sort of No, it did bring attention. Absolutely. 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:04.560 Did I do like the fact like how how they were. 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:11.320 Using the wire to help her out of the jam, 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:14.320 so uh so, yeah, I did. I did like that part. 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:15.800 But no, I mean I thought it was I thought 0:06:15.839 --> 0:06:19.400 it's definitely a step down, for sure. I kind of 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:22.240 anticipated it being a step down, honestly, because I felt 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.000 like last week was really good. 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:28.080 What about you, Kim. 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:36.080 Overall, I liked it, you know, I think, if anything, 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.919 I am somewhat concerned. We're halfway through and I don't 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:46.400 know what we're doing here. But there were definitely like moments, 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:49.479 you know, throughout the episode that I was talking to 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.479 the TV and just trying to make sense of what 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:52.279 was going on. 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:56.800 But overall it didn't bother me as as much as 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.520 the rest of y'all. 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:04.160 Yeah, I agree with mostly everyone as far as like 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:07.880 this wasn't a great episode or it definitely didn't live 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:12.240 up to I guess how interesting and somewhat exciting last 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:14.800 episode was, because if I. 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.640 Remove the Rude Alamo. 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:22.240 Lori situation from this episode, it's so it's almost a 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:28.120 nothing burger for me personally. I do find Lexi's storyline 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:31.360 a little bit interesting just because of she's in she's 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.200 kind of like entry level in the industry, and you know, 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:39.520 she's seeing like the dudes and don'ts of it and 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.240 then always also the Jewels aspect. 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:42.360 I want to see how that plays out. 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:46.360 But mostly I only was like, Wow, I'm really only 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:48.400 invested in this series to see what's the fuck gonna 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.640 happen with Rude. Granted, I know she's in there, she's 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:54.000 the star of the show. But I felt like beforehand 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:55.480 it was a little bit more balanced. You can kind 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:57.080 of bounce around and be like, Okay, I'm fine with 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:02.240 being with this focus or this storyline before we get 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:03.720 back to the main thing. But it was so it 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:05.880 was it was all right episode. It wasn't even super high. 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:10.720 It was just all right. But going into this episode, 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:13.200 I want to I want to save the Rue Alamo 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:15.920 stuff for the later a little bit later, just because 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:17.840 I think that's the biggest piece that we'll have a 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:19.720 big discussion that. So I just want to get through 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.600 the bullshit first. 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:23.600 Even though the. 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:27.800 Episode starts off with us seeing Rue, you know, get 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.680 arrested in the backseat of a car or a da car, 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:34.880 I'm gonna start with Nate and Cassie because we slide 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:39.040 back to their scene or their uh perspective. I think 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.199 like the day after or a few maybe a week 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:45.360 after that incident that happened in the last episode, and 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:49.120 Nate is like, to your point, Nay, Mike, he is different. 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:52.000 I thought I would see a switch by now. Again, 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:53.160 we're halfway. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:56.920 Through it, but he is just a normal guy. He's 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.000 just bad with his money. That's just how he's being 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:03.560 portrayed as opposed he was previously. But we see that 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.040 he's trying to put a positive spin on the whole situation. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.319 But what did y'all think about I'll start with you, Mike, 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.920 what did you think about his conversation with Cassie as 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.959 far as in that living room scene when he was 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.200 just talking about his toe and how it represents optimism and. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:22.480 Shit, I want to turn this bullshit off. I straight up, 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:25.480 I was just like, what the fuck is this? Who 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.200 is this guy? Why is he fucking telling poems and shit? 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:31.880 This isn't Nate. This that corny ass dude that was 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.640 playing the guitar singing that bullshit ass song to fucking Root. 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:36.600 I can't remember that dude's name, but they didn't bring 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.800 his bitch ass back the blind Yeah, the fucking guy 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.400 with a little tattoo on his face that you find 0:09:43.440 --> 0:09:46.640 what you need, that dude, Like, I don't understand why 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.560 they're doing this. Like I understand you you grow and 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:51.960 you change a lot five years out of high school, 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:56.640 but you don't become a completely different person. So to 0:09:56.720 --> 0:10:02.080 go from like this menacing Nate to this I'm relating 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:04.920 our relationship to my pinky toe, Like, get the fuck 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:09.360 out of here, man, You agree? Hell yeah, I agree. 0:10:09.760 --> 0:10:12.559 And I understand that they're trying to make like he's 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:16.160 obviously trying to be this person. He's trying to be 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:19.840 a better man than his father was. My god on today. 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:23.120 I don't know. 0:10:23.160 --> 0:10:27.640 I kind of like it actually, And the reason I 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:32.000 like it, I mean because you see, we've seen stories 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:36.120 of like bullies that that come back and you know, yeah, no, 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:37.880 you know that was just me in high school. You know, 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.280 I'm sorry. I like, like, I feel like that's what 0:10:40.320 --> 0:10:42.800 we're seeing now with Nick. I feel like he was 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:47.079 that that guy, that that jock guy in high school 0:10:47.200 --> 0:10:49.920 that that knew he was at some point, and now 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:55.520 he's trying to right his wrongs. I do kind of 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:57.120 I mean the way he because he is different. I 0:10:57.200 --> 0:10:59.079 agree with y'all, like that's the only that's the only 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.240 way I can justify. The way I can justify it 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:04.520 is that that he's representing that high school kid that 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:07.160 comes out of high school and it's like kind of 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:08.040 turning the new league. 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:11.480 But I don't feel like it's authentic. That's the difference. 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:14.080 Like I don't feel like since here, it's just I 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.040 don't even think he's trying to be a better person. 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:17.760 He's just trying to show that he can be better 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:22.400 than his who his father was, and he can't rhythm. 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.520 That's why he's how he's struggling. So I feel like 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.040 they're gonna have this Nate blow up, like when he 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:29.760 said he had that melt down in the court and 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.800 he's like, I'm trying to be good, and it's like, okay, cool. 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:34.760 I just don't know if that blowoff blow up is 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:38.000 gonna pay off for all the change that they don't want. 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:42.479 It just seems so inauthentic. It's writing just seems so clumsy. 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.559 It's like, it's just not it's not us. 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.720 I don't know how we got here, and then I'm 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:51.360 showing us how we got here. 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:53.920 Yeah, and by the time we get here, I don't 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:55.080 think I'm gonna care no more. 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:58.880 I feel like, let me know if I'm wrong. 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:03.839 Between Nay and Mike's point, I feel like the things 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.720 that made him interesting as a character have been stripped 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.840 away from him and replaced with something that's like, it's 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:14.200 not even comparable to the to the previous iteration that 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:18.160 we had and what we are getting is just something 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.640 that's kind of like hollow and lackluster. 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:21.640 So it's just like, all. 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.880 Right, and he was one of the most compelling characters, 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.280 like of the series, which is why you know he 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:28.400 became a big actor. 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.880 You know, I agree with you one hundred percent, Nick, 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:35.440 I think the I do understand Rod's point, and I 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:39.800 do want to give it that grace. But the writing 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:44.120 just feels bad for Nate. And that's that's my issue 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:49.120 because nobody else has changed drastically except for Nate. So 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.960 it doesn't feel like this is what Sam Levinson was 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.240 going for. It sounds like, you know what, I can't 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.120 even speculate. I don't know what the fuck it sounds 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.839 like it. It's just bad writing. It doesn't really make 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:02.480 any sense. And the think about it is, if you 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:06.360 want to do this, what season one and season two 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:08.800 did so well was they would go back and tell 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.800 the stories and the reasons why characters acted a certain way. 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.600 You got to give us some kind of flashbacks or 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:20.240 something to explain why Nate had fucking turned into a 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:23.920 beat poet. Like it just doesn't it doesn't work. It 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:29.520 doesn't work for Nate. Lude what was your thoughts on Nate. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:32.600 Yeah, not only in this scene, but kind of going 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:33.800 into this episode as well. 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.600 I think that Nate, how Nate's being written leads. 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:41.079 To the spirit conspiracy theory that they talk about with 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.839 Sam Levison as to where he stole these stories from 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:46.640 people he went to high school with, and it was 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.960 interesting and uniquely interesting because he had those stories from 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.840 those people. Now that you're five years removed from that, 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:55.800 he's just writing from a TV perspective. There's no like, 0:13:56.600 --> 0:13:59.320 there's no like, nothing genuine about it. It just seems like, oh, 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.240 these are normal tropes. And I think that leads into 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.080 where we looking at Nate now like they want. 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.240 Us to feel sorry for him. I agree with Rod 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:06.520 in the. 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.600 Sense of the high school used to be jock, everybody 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.440 liked him, all the girls liked him, and then you 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.120 look at him a couple of years later, you run 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:14.600 into him. 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:16.839 It's like, damn homeie high school. He was a man home. 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:17.600 We all know that. 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.440 Story, but it's just not interesting, Like we don't care, 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.880 we don't feel sorry for Nate, like they was saying, 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:24.920 like how did he get here? Like, yeah, you're not 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:27.200 trying to be like your dad, but you sobbing on 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.000 the floor in a council meeting big In or some 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:32.760 random other white man, Like, what are we doing? 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:34.880 It's just hard? 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.480 Yeah, And dude was like so unemotional to like like 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:42.600 he ain't getting no winds and that's that's just strange 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.040 when you're watching this show from what we're used to 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:46.320 and it don't work. 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:47.800 I don't like the character no more. 0:14:48.040 --> 0:14:50.000 And I pay even more attention to it, Mike, after 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:52.200 you said it last week, and it just stay leaned 0:14:52.800 --> 0:14:53.480 right into it. 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.800 It's like that's not the same character no more. 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.720 I guess with me, like it seems so intentional that 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.600 it has to be some sort of payoffs to it. 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:03.800 It's the thing, dude, who. 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:09.040 Did the ile right right, he has deserved your faith. 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:16.160 Roder speaking of day Bro where he was at the 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:21.960 California Council media, he was like, Bill, is this this person? 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:28.040 Hands and knees like he was like, Bro, this saint 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.120 the day I know it and security. 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:32.160 Somebody can get this dude. 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:32.400 Man. 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:41.440 Yeah, I think now he should be broken. And if 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.160 this don't do it, then I don't know what what 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.200 will He OWDs a million dollars. 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:47.920 Cassie is left. 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:53.440 And he just completely embarrassed himself in this meeting in 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:53.920 front of. 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.640 All these people over a flower. 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:02.360 He has no other options, he has no money. The 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.440 only thing left is for Nate to die if Cassie 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.880 doesn't bail him out with his only fan ship. But 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.800 at this point it's a rap for him. So he 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:16.440 has to moving forward, break this. This has to be it. 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.960 This is his last. Yeah, I think he's broken though. 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:24.840 Nate grew up. Nate grew up, and he tried to 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:28.800 do things a certain way and for all, for all 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:32.400 intents and purposes, up to this point, it has not worked. 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:35.280 And he's probably just gonna go back to the one 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:36.400 thing that he knows. 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:37.560 If that's what they're doing. 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:43.160 I don't know what they're doing with Nate, But. 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:43.120 What's the one thing he knows? 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:44.880 I don't know. 0:16:45.040 --> 0:16:50.320 Just anger, emotional outburst rage, the things that you guys 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.520 are saying that are missing, that you guys are missing 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:53.080 from Nate. 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:59.040 Million dollars though I know it's point like even if 0:16:59.040 --> 0:17:01.040 he do go there now, like, so what you still 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:02.600 owe a million dollars? 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:04.040 So yeah, I know. 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:08.000 But but those those sort of outbursts that he did 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:11.399 in the past, they've always had negative consequences for him anyway. 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:17.119 This one will lead to probably the ultimate consequence if 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:18.399 that's where they go. But I don't know how the 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.560 hell you're gonna get a million dollars and where you're 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:23.280 gonna get it from, because that ship compiling interest every 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:23.880 damn day. 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.520 Yeah, can you bro up the point of Cassie and 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:34.040 her realization of just what kind of person she married 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:37.120 when she was like trying to put medicine on his foot. 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.680 She was like, everything you've been about has been a lie, 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.280 from our finances to our marriage and all that stuff. 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:45.800 And then he tried to save it by saying, what 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:48.679 you mean you ain't talk about our love? Thigga always 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.160 Nigga always know what to saying what it's back against 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:52.560 the wall. 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:55.720 But she could. 0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:58.199 She basically makes up her own mind and started her 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.600 own independent path with Maddie, who was the first person. 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.520 I was kind of surprised that she called and then like, 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:06.879 let's get let's let's get it going, let's get the 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:11.160 bands back together. I will just because I'm not sure 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.600 how much she told her, because Maddie did pull up 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:18.000 Hella happy to do this, So I was just surprised 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:19.800 that she cont find in her so much, saying like, 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:23.160 Nate's broke this, that and the third, and I need 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:27.159 to make some money to survive period. Fuck him, like, 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:28.880 I'm just trying to survive because we ain't got shit 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.639 without him. So that was my thing, I think, And 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:34.240 maybe she didn't, maybe she didn't, but either way, Maddie 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:38.280 pulls up and her and Cassie are knee deep in 0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:45.640 this content creation mode. What did y'all think about their 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:47.159 relationship dynamic this episode? 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.400 I'll start with you, ny, I. 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.320 Mean, it's just more of what this is not a 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:56.520 surprise at all, they setting this up for two episodes. 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:56.919 Now. 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.040 What I thought was interesting was Lexi's. 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:06.000 Observation of the situation where she's like, you're basically a 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.800 foreign star, You're an internet pimp, Like what is going 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:09.320 on here? 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:14.400 So and they're both unapologetic about it. 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:17.720 So that's the only interesting thing that I'm gathering from 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:21.920 this Cassie storyline. It's just the comparison of the sex 0:19:22.000 --> 0:19:25.480 work that ruins in the environment in versus the sex 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:27.520 work that Cassie and Maddie. 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:28.520 Are involving themselves in. 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:32.840 It's just that dynamic is interesting and just the idea 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:36.640 of like where's the how how does the power dynamic 0:19:36.720 --> 0:19:42.280 playing this? Like like, yeah, just the interesting comparison of 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.600 these well to do women who are using sex work 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.800 as a way to capitalize and just the capitalization of 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.560 sex work was interesting to me. But it has nothing 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.160 to do with Cassie or her need to be independent 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:58.920 or her flighty ways or the way Maddie's is manipulating it. 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:05.080 I didn't even put that parallel together for whatever reason. 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.199 I don't know why. But noah, yeah, that is an 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:12.440 interesting parallel. Why are you shaking your head because I'm dumb? 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:15.600 I did not say that. 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:22.400 No, but but now that is interesting though, No, no yet, 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:24.280 Like they said, it wasn't surprising to me they miss 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:24.800 signing it up. 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:27.480 I don't know. 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:28.680 It still came off a little. 0:20:28.840 --> 0:20:29.199 I don't know. 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:34.360 I was expecting something else. I don't know what I'm expecting, 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:35.160 But it wasn't that. 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:35.840 I just. 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:39.879 It didn't. That didn't seem written well to me. 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:43.359 Honestly, with the whole leaf blower and all that, that 0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:45.600 whole it just wasn't execute for me. 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:50.359 H m hmmm. What about your what were your thoughts 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:50.600 on that? 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:50.800 Mike? 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:56.640 So I I got similar takes with the whole sex 0:20:56.720 --> 0:20:59.920 work thing that they got except for with me out. 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:03.240 I don't know that I find it as interesting because 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:05.119 I mean, it just seems I don't know, it just 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.879 seems kind of ABC one two three because you have 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:10.840 one group that you know, on one side, the women 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:15.439 are being obviously exploited, and then you have Cassie story 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:20.719 where she's almost this sounds fucked up, and it's almost 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.879 like she wants to be exploited because maybe she'll get 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:27.000 some dough that way. And then you got the Jewels 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:30.000 story where it's like, well, no, I'm actually exploiting the 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:34.040 other motherfucker. So it's all wrapped up in sex work, 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.600 but I just don't know what the purpose is. And 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:42.920 it almost feels like Sam Levinson didn't really have anything 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:44.840 else that he could throw at the wall, so he's 0:21:44.880 --> 0:21:49.320 just like, oh, sex work, Let's make the entire fucking 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:53.880 season about sex work and exploitation. And it's like, all right, bro. 0:21:54.600 --> 0:21:58.960 But as far as the Cassie Maddie thing, it makes 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:02.680 sense to me because I can telling y'all, Maddie don't 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:05.119 give a fuck about Cassie. Maddie's trying to get paid 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:09.600 and then she's happily, happily ruining their marriage. She is 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.919 fucking hyped that all of that shit fell apart. So 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:16.200 I guarantee you. When Cassie called her and said, Maddie, 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:18.520 I left Nate, she was like, shit, girl, I'll be 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:21.000 over there in five minutes. Let's go to this pool 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:24.920 and take some pictures. But I do disagree a little 0:22:24.960 --> 0:22:27.439 bit with Rod. I think that the scene with the leaplower, 0:22:28.160 --> 0:22:30.800 I fucked with that whole scene. I thought it was 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.879 funny because like anytime someone would be saying something, the 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:36.640 leap lower would cut on and it would cut out 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:39.120 like the important parts of the conversation. So I thought 0:22:39.119 --> 0:22:39.919 that shit was funny. 0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:41.360 Yeah, that was annoying for me. 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:44.679 Damn for me. 0:22:44.720 --> 0:22:47.600 But I get it though, now that you said it 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:50.400 being intentional, it could be cool. 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:53.440 But because it was a lot of important things being 0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:55.720 said in that scene, and then you got Rude coming 0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:58.840 in asking for drugs and like she's like, wait a minute, relaxed. 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:02.959 So like it it's a lot of like like little 0:23:03.040 --> 0:23:08.160 crumbs of important concepts, like you got Rude dealing in 0:23:08.200 --> 0:23:10.600 this drug life with her addiction. 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:11.720 You got me. 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:14.239 Yeah, it was it was a lot said and then 0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:17.760 you have the comedic timing of the leaf blower to 0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:20.880 like keep you from hearing with actually being said. 0:23:20.920 --> 0:23:21.600 It was good to me. 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:25.320 Yeah, I thought that it was funny because it was 0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:28.320 or maybe I was just noticing it more whenever Cassie 0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:31.639 would talk, but whenever Cassie would start saying something, the 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:33.439 leaf blower would cut on, and I guess they were 0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:36.160 trying to make it. I still like it, but it's 0:23:36.160 --> 0:23:38.720 also kind of corny. They're trying to make a parallel like, Oh, 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:41.200 we don't really want to hear what you have to say. 0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:43.800 Just get up there and just fucking show your show, 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:49.440 your boobs, show whatever ass you got, and that's that's 0:23:49.480 --> 0:23:51.600 all that we care about right now. We don't care 0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:54.280 about anything that's coming out of your mouth. So I 0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:57.240 thought I thought it was kind of funny. Lou what 0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:00.440 about you? Yeah? I like this scene. I thought was clever. 0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:04.199 Uh, they weare conveniently came on and each time, and 0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:06.040 I like the conversations that they were having. 0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:08.800 I liked that she came off as kind of like 0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:12.320 the liberal, liberal white lady Karen. 0:24:13.000 --> 0:24:15.120 It's just like they were like, okay, whatever, they didn't 0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:19.040 want to listen to what's her name, Lexi's Lexi. Yeah, 0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:22.159 she came off like that to me and tying it 0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:24.479 into Rule and how she popped up and how she 0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:27.040 wouldn't She wasn't concerned at all what Cassie was doing, 0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:29.320 even though she had an idea, but she was heavily 0:24:29.359 --> 0:24:33.080 invested in the gru at the club, and going back 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:35.280 to your sex work point, I think they are showing 0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:37.960 all the different aspects of sex work, and Rule was 0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:41.040 overly concerned, which got her into trouble about the girl 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.000 and what she was doing for sex work and how 0:24:43.040 --> 0:24:45.680 she may be being exploited. But she didn't say anything 0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:47.560 when it was her friend, So I found that was 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:49.760 interesting as well too. But I did pick up on 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:52.520 the sex works aspects from each one of them. 0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:55.200 Yeah, you know, I thought it was it was right, No, 0:24:57.240 --> 0:24:58.520 m Nope, you got it. 0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:02.720 I was slightly disagreement with the commentary about Maddie not 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:07.840 really giving any kind of fuck about cassie situation. I 0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:10.560 think she absolutely does not care about the marriage right, 0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:14.120 but she I do think to a certain extent she does. 0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:17.720 She's not letting Maddie go or Cassie go too too far, 0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:20.960 like she didn't want to see her actually have sex 0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:23.160 with the guy because she knew one that's gonna mess 0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:26.159 up her situation and she don't want Cassie to go 0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:29.119 too far. But then it also I feel like like 0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:31.399 in that scene with Brew where she was like, I 0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:35.119 don't feel comfortable getting you connected with drugs. Like I 0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:39.439 think Maddie has some kind of moral compasses, really really narrow, 0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:42.840 but I think that she's like only allowing people to. 0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:44.160 Go to a certain exting. 0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:47.280 So I do she wants to get her papers, she 0:25:47.320 --> 0:25:49.639 wants a situation to work out for herself, but she 0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.600 still has some kind of care for these people that 0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:53.439 she's involved with. 0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:57.520 I think she cares about Rue m I think they 0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:00.440 showed Matt in the second season when Ru was out 0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:03.760 and was on drugs or whatever. I think she cares 0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:07.080 about Rue. I don't I be really surprised if they 0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:10.320 actually show that she truly cares about Cassie, because, like 0:26:10.400 --> 0:26:12.360 you said, I think that whole thing with not having 0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:15.400 sex with the dude was just so it didn't fuck 0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:17.879 up Cassie's wrap, which would then fuck up her money. 0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:22.080 I do agree with you that she Maddie does have 0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:26.480 some similus of care about Cassie. I'm talking about Rue. 0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:29.080 She didn't give two flying fucks what Cassie was doing, 0:26:29.080 --> 0:26:32.680 but she was overly concerned. She was overly concerned about 0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:35.440 the lady at the club that she didn't know. That's 0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:36.560 that was interesting to me. 0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:39.119 That's just guilt. She feels bad that she got the 0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:40.920 other girl killed. Mm hmm. 0:26:43.480 --> 0:26:49.040 I thought it was interesting because it's like when when 0:26:49.040 --> 0:26:51.320 at first everything was kind of setting up for the 0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:52.040 pool scene. 0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:52.800 You know. 0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:54.199 One of the things I was saying when I was 0:26:54.240 --> 0:26:56.520 in here watching, I was like, they're all kind of 0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:59.640 outcasts they, you know, in the sense they all really 0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:06.560 don't fit in in the way that people view of 0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:09.560 people should fit in. And then Letsie is the one 0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:13.199 person that is sort of normal on the show, and 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:17.080 she's watching all of these things and she's quickly calling 0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:20.160 out these sort of behaviors. But all three of them, 0:27:20.280 --> 0:27:23.760 they are completely comfortable in the world that they live 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:26.800 in and they continue to move forward with whatever it 0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:27.720 is that they're seeking to do. 0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:30.520 So I thought that that was really interesting that they 0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:31.040 did that. 0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:33.840 In addition to like the parallels between the clubs that 0:27:33.880 --> 0:27:36.840 you guys already talked about, how they kept flip flopping 0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:37.680 back and forth. 0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:38.639 But I'm not gonna lie. 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:43.720 I think the conversation that you guys had before about 0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:49.160 Maddie and Maddie own this revenge tour play they got 0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.280 me in the in the club scene because I thought 0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:53.400 that that's what she did. I thought she finally made 0:27:53.400 --> 0:27:57.600 a move because I thought she was still upset about 0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.960 the wedding, but it seems like she just kind of 0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.280 moved on from that shit and just like, all right, well, 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:05.359 you know, we're just gonna go out here and just 0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:08.760 get money. So I thought she Yeah, I thought she 0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:10.959 left her and you know, shut her up to go 0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.320 have that situation with that guy. You know, because when 0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:18.159 you said because I don't think she's ruining the marriage, 0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.000 and I don't know if that's what you meant, Mike, 0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.120 but I think the marriage is already ruined. 0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.080 And she just there and Cassie just ran to her. 0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.440 Yeah, No, you're right, you're right. I take that back, 0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:32.280 because it's not like she's pushing Cassie to show her 0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:35.920 actual breast, because that's what Nate didn't want. So no, 0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:36.440 you're right. 0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:40.760 Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Nick. 0:28:41.120 --> 0:28:42.480 No, I was just gonna say that Ken, that was 0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:43.840 actually gonna be a question I was going to ask 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:45.640 you because like that scene threw me off a little 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:47.040 bit too, because I didn't know where it was going 0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:51.400 to go exactly, Like which scene the scene where Maddie 0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.200 is going up to the door that's locked in the 0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:56.160 club and like banging on it, trying to make sure 0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:01.280 but why I was just saying, like that was the 0:29:01.280 --> 0:29:04.200 scene that stood out to me about Maddie as far 0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:09.120 as does she care about Cassie, Like like it felt 0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:10.800 like I didn't know if that was a scene where 0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:13.040 she was like advocating for or trying to save her 0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.800 the last second, or trying to get that close up 0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:17.640 of like because it seemed like it was like a 0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:19.760 commercial or some shit like that, And I was like, 0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:22.800 what it was. Is that either brilliant on their part 0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:24.760 of knowing like was that their tag team. 0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:26.920 Original plan or did they just look into that shit 0:29:27.680 --> 0:29:27.920 it was? 0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.320 I don't know, Nick, because I was with you, I 0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:33.920 was like, oh shit, like what is she going to do? 0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.120 Because she went in there and Cassie started going crazy, 0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:40.360 and I didn't know if Cassie was actively competing with 0:29:40.400 --> 0:29:43.480 the girl beside her, because that's just Cassie being Cassie. 0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.600 Or if this was her making sure that she had 0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:49.720 the guy's complete full attention for when they burst into 0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.719 the door. So I'm with you, I still don't know 0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:54.880 if if like that was the full play. I know 0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:56.920 that was the play, but I don't know if they 0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:59.920 executed the play in a way that they wanted to ask. 0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.360 I think they may have, like you said, gotten lucky 0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:06.600 with a lot picking So I really don't know, but 0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:07.800 they got me with that shit. 0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:13.800 I think that they they keep bating us in this 0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:16.800 way with Cassie because I was, and I literally ought 0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:19.080 to be, like, she is dune to box of rocks, rocks, 0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:19.800 what is she doing? 0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:20.520 Right? 0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:23.400 But I also think they keep playing with this thing 0:30:23.440 --> 0:30:29.200 where Cassie is at the point where she's kind of 0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:34.479 kind of knows what she's doing and she's learned how 0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:37.920 to manipulate the situation in her favor. 0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:40.600 So I was. 0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:43.200 I will say that I did feel like they executed 0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.840 this scene well because you couldn't tell how much of 0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.600 this was calculated and how much of this was just 0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.080 the luck of the draw and how much of this 0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.560 Cassie was aware of or not. So I thought they 0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:58.200 did a good job at this thing. I still don't care, 0:30:58.680 --> 0:30:59.920 but I think they did a good job. 0:31:02.960 --> 0:31:05.280 I'm gonna throw out there, I don't I don't think. 0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:09.280 I think Cassie's just getting lucky because I don't think 0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:13.680 you could. I mean not that I not that I've seen. 0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.320 I don't think you can snort coke and especially put 0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:21.840 coke up your badge and still have your your senses 0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:25.239 about you, especially someone like Cassie. So when they were 0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:28.080 showing her doing that, I was like, Oh, she's she's 0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.880 just wilding, and then she kind of just got lucky 0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:34.840 that Maddie was there to fucking rain the whole thing in. 0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.760 So I don't know if I don't know if I 0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:41.320 would buy that Cassie planned all of that, because that 0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:44.760 seems like a lot to I don't know, man, I 0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.080 just don't see. I don't see nobody planning put in, 0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:49.360 you know, a line of coke up their vagina and 0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:50.320 then just being. 0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:54.880 Like I'm not saying again, we're. 0:31:54.400 --> 0:31:57.360 We may be giving her too much credit, especially when 0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:01.600 someone who's on drugs in that situation. But from the 0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:03.520 game talk, like the game talk that they had and 0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:05.160 she was like, oh, it sounds like we're going to war. 0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:06.440 It was like they had a. 0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:10.680 Plan ratty kind of coaster, and then Cassie just was 0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:15.920 like just a great actor for that scene. Again, Like 0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:17.920 I'm not saying like that's exactly what it was, but 0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.080 the way she she said that last part when Maddie 0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:22.960 got into the room and they had the cameras on her, 0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:25.360 it was like she was well within her mind to 0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:25.880 say like that. 0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:28.240 It wasn't like druggie, you know what I'm saying. 0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:30.760 I wonder if they faked this out, maybe she didn't 0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:31.520 actually do it. 0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:36.600 She did her belly button, she went around her belly button, 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:38.920 so I think she didn't get a little bit. 0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:40.600 And I don't. 0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:42.600 Yeah, So I think that's what I'm saying, Like, I 0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:47.520 feel like she was aware enough of the situation, and 0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:49.520 it was very obvious to me that she was trying 0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:50.520 to get the dude's. 0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:51.480 Attention from the other girl. 0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:54.160 So I think there was definitely the power play between 0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:58.520 the two girls, and she still was able to keep 0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:03.320 him keep the situation from her actually having sex. And 0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:05.840 she kept looking at the block so she knew Maddie 0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:09.080 was coming. So I feel like she knew enough of 0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:13.040 this what was going on to manipulate it in her favor. 0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:16.400 Which is a lot better than the Cassie of high school. 0:33:17.600 --> 0:33:19.520 So you think if he took his dick out that 0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:21.520 she would have not fucked him. 0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:23.480 I think she would have tried to figure out a 0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:27.040 way not to, because Maddie very explicitly said once she 0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:29.719 is not going to care about what goes on. So 0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:31.960 I think she was very aware. 0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:36.640 See, that's why I thought she was Yeah, that's why 0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:41.240 I thought she was just wilding out because she was 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:43.120 taking her clothes off and then he was like, I 0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:45.479 want to fuck you so bad. She was like, oh, really, 0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:48.400 like right now, it seemed like she was cool with it, 0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:51.360 and then Maddie just kind of saved the day by 0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:54.600 fucking busting in the room. I don't know, I don't know. 0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:56.120 I guess I gotta watch that scene again. 0:33:57.800 --> 0:34:00.160 It's looking at the looking at the lock till a 0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:04.840 lot on the looking at the Locke tails a lot, 0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.240 because she was aware that, Okay, I need you to 0:34:07.640 --> 0:34:09.560 get in here because he's trying to have sex with 0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:10.600 me at this point. 0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:15.200 So it seemed like she was really aware of that part. 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:23.839 Well, we'll see how smart this duo is moving forward, 0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:24.719 because clearly. 0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:25.640 They ended to win it. 0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:29.040 You would love to have more content from frames per second. 0:34:29.320 --> 0:34:31.600 Become a patron where you can contribute to what we 0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:34.880 review and discuss. 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So we see Jewels again and 0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:14.240 since she's got a sugar daddy, she just be farting 0:35:14.239 --> 0:35:17.440 around at at home watching reality TV shows or whatever. 0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:19.839 But she get a call from Lexi who's like, listen, 0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:21.400 I gotta I gotta lick for you. I got an 0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:22.480 opportunity for you. 0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:25.480 What's up? Are you? Are you down for? And she is, 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:26.080 and it's. 0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:29.120 An art gig to create a painting for her TV 0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:34.240 show that she's working on, l A Knights, Rob Oh. 0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:36.680 No, Actually, Lou, I'm gonna start with you. Did you 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:45.120 like the painting? You don't like to ask questions of 0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:45.840 different people. 0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:59.719 I feel like if if she gave her the opportunity 0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:01.520 to do and put her work in front of that 0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:05.160 many people, she at least in or ran about her 0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:08.120 what she was thinking, at least which one. 0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:10.440 Jewels? 0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:12.759 Jewels Like, I ain't saying nothing was wrong with the 0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:13.640 pain that you do. 0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:16.440 Your creative freedom or whatever you wanted, your artistic freedom, 0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:20.400 that's fine, But like the lady said, this is a 0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:21.680 network television show. 0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:22.319 One. 0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:25.319 Two, it's a lot of looks. It's going to be 0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.000 on here three and don't even match up with the artists. 0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:29.879 The lady said, I don't even think my character would 0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:33.240 paint anything like this. So it's a lot of jewels 0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:35.560 just going in a while and out and almost costing 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:37.279 that lady her job when she was just trying to 0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:39.640 give her an opportunity. She thought about her in her 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:42.759 time like a struggling artist, like I'm putting you on 0:36:42.800 --> 0:36:45.040 Fourth Street and you go in here decide to be 0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:46.960 a rebel or break the rules or something like that 0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:48.239 like that, that's not cool to me. 0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.640 You blame that on Jewels, then Lexi for not giving 0:36:51.680 --> 0:36:53.160 her instructions on Nikka. 0:36:53.239 --> 0:36:54.239 This is a network TV. 0:36:54.800 --> 0:37:02.480 I didn't think you come in here and paint dis on. 0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:06.440 Come on, I do. 0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:08.480 This is gonna be an issue, That's what I was. 0:37:08.560 --> 0:37:11.000 I was saving the full question. I was like, who 0:37:11.080 --> 0:37:13.400 is to blame for this or the situation? 0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:19.640 A million percent? Oh wow, I'm with you. 0:37:21.360 --> 0:37:23.400 It has to be Lexi's faults. She's doing offering the 0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:24.319 job opportunity. 0:37:24.400 --> 0:37:28.000 That's right. If somebody hires you for looking at this way, Rod, 0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:30.160 If somebody hires you for a job, right, and they 0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:33.160 don't tell you what the job entails, and you show 0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:35.879 up with stuff that you don't need, you're gonna look 0:37:35.880 --> 0:37:38.759 at them like they're crazy. Right, Actually no, Rodsman saying 0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:41.200 I'm gonna ask before I get there. I picked I 0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:44.360 picked the wrong person. Never mind, forget it, rode the 0:37:44.360 --> 0:37:48.800 wheels turning, Never fucking mind, Rod. But most people, no, 0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:50.399 I think that. 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:53.000 Is a good comparison, because you have a story, you 0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.319 have a certain aesthetic that you do, especially when you're 0:37:55.400 --> 0:38:00.200 hired to do certain types I'm thinking about, and when 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:02.520 you come and you do that and you present a 0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:07.160 product that isn't what they expected, Like they didn't give 0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:10.000 you an explanation of what they wanted up front and 0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:12.680 told you they're giving you creative license, so. 0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:15.280 You do what you creatively right, right. 0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:18.279 And Jules very clearly said thank you for thinking of me, 0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:20.879 which to me says you know what I'm the type 0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:22.920 of art that I do, and I appreciate you for 0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:26.640 giving me the opportunity to showcase my art and you 0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:27.960 tell me to be creative. 0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:31.040 So yeah, Dix, because that's what I do. 0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:33.279 And if you want me to do what I do, 0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:34.719 if you shouldn't have hired me for the. 0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:38.600 Job, or you should have gave me an explanation of 0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:42.560 up front of what is needed. If if this is 0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:44.360 you know, a job where you just want me to 0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:48.520 paint a beach with flowers and close people. Fine, but 0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:52.319 you can't just give me creative freedom, have me show up, 0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:54.520 do my thing and then be mad at me. This 0:38:54.560 --> 0:38:57.920 is all my Lexi. This is all on Lexi. 0:38:57.960 --> 0:38:58.279 And it was. 0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:02.040 It was sad because when you watch the scene, I 0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:04.319 think that Hunter Shaeffer does a really good job of 0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:09.120 conveying like how much she was into doing this. You 0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:13.239 know she's she's getting what she needs from the dude 0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:15.799 that's paying her bills, but at the same time she 0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:18.440 wants to be an artist, and she's like, fuck, I 0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:22.439 finally got the opportunity. And then she paints this thing 0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:26.720 that is, you know, what's in her mind and then 0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:30.520 it gets rejected. So this was a good ass scene. 0:39:30.560 --> 0:39:32.840 But I disagree with Spike. I don't think this is 0:39:32.840 --> 0:39:34.120 on June. This is on Lexi. 0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.360 I want to get ribbed before I go back to Spike. 0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:40.439 Rob you you agree with Ludo, right. 0:39:41.600 --> 0:39:42.080 I did. 0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:44.799 I did agree with him until that, until that was explained, 0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:47.840 because I because like Mike is right, I assume that 0:39:47.920 --> 0:39:52.120 she had the information because I, like Nace says like, 0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:54.600 I'll usually get the information before I do a job, 0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.680 unless they say you have creative. 0:39:58.480 --> 0:39:59.440 Control or whatever. 0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:01.799 But now times ten people tell me like, you know, 0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:05.520 they know what they're they're getting when they. 0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:06.880 Hired me for the most part. 0:40:07.239 --> 0:40:12.000 So yeah, So with that said, yeah, that is kind 0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:15.680 of on Lexi if you didn't do your proper research 0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.400 as to what she brings as far as art is concerned. 0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:23.719 Uh so, But but I do think there has to 0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:28.640 be some sort of like, yeah, I do feel like 0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:29.560 she still should have act. 0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:30.480 What did she ask? 0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.439 She didn't ask what do you want? And she told 0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:36.120 like the piece and like the picnic, and she said, okay, 0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:38.560 so like the people, like the beach and all that 0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:39.120 kind of thing. 0:40:39.680 --> 0:40:40.760 But she never. 0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:43.280 Told her that she was supposed to be painting something 0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:46.200 that like who is this character that she's supposed to 0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:48.879 be doing art for, Like she didn't give her that 0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:49.840 type of background. 0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:52.600 Okay, all right, So yeah, so it's on both of 0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.600 them to me because as an artist, you do like, 0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:57.720 like I'm gonna get all the details that I possibly 0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:00.400 can color things, all these things. These are the questions 0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.880 I'm going to ask before I just waste my time 0:41:03.400 --> 0:41:05.560 doing a job. Because I don't want to waste my time, 0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:08.120 so I always ask, Okay, what aspect rational? 0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:09.600 You want? You want this to be a real you 0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:11.080 want this to be a traditional format. 0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:13.520 These are the questions I asked before I go in 0:41:13.600 --> 0:41:15.040 and creating art. 0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:17.720 So I feel like it's on both of them. 0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:19.040 Yeah eighty twenty. 0:41:21.239 --> 0:41:25.520 It's like this is like Jules's first real so she 0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:29.200 doesn't really know the questions to ask, right, It's both 0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:31.799 of their first real gigs. So I think this is 0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:34.960 like a good This is like a learning opportunity for 0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:39.480 both of them. And unfortunately this learning opportunity really like 0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:43.279 impacts it both of them. So it'll be yeah to 0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:45.040 see how they each grow from it. 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.560 You can. I think I changed mind to yeah, it 0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.920 is on both of them, because Jewles probably should have asked, yeah, 0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:54.480 the court like, if you know you're painting something that 0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:59.440 is provocative, you should probably just run it by. And 0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:01.200 but I do think she made a really good point 0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:04.759 when the lady was like, nah, there's just dick and 0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:06.600 she was like, oh, so you don't have any problem 0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:12.200 with the breast though, that was like a perfect response, 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:12.959 you know. 0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:21.600 But yeah, all lets you say was we were thinking 0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:26.400 of a Sunday picnic kind of feel. Jules asked the 0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:30.080 question something about umbrellas, and then she says something about 0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:32.839 it she don't need to copy anything, and there's something 0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:36.280 about it should be distinct, and then she said basically, 0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:37.920 do whatever you feel. 0:42:38.840 --> 0:42:39.760 It'll be great. 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:41.759 The reason though. 0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:47.560 She said she said them fellas ken. 0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:55.400 No, it was a Penis is eacher. She heard that 0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:56.320 wrong either. 0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:01.799 Because she said Pani or Panini. It was she said 0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:08.640 Peni hollered Pni. I've never heard that before. Have you 0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:13.719 heard that before fight. That was like. 0:43:15.520 --> 0:43:16.840 That was a new one on me, but you know, 0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:19.759 was changing these days. So I'm like, well, you know 0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:22.200 it's it's it's you know what, baby does this. But 0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:28.160 that's happened, Lou Lou, and I'll be done. When it happened, 0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:34.279 I was confused by the reaction of everybody, and I'm like, 0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:38.279 did she give her like clear directions on what to do, 0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:40.680 because that's what the lady was saying. The lady was 0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:42.160 breaking down, like did you tell her this? 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:42.839 That and the other? 0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:45.319 And she was like well, and she was fumbling about 0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:46.920 y'all trying to tell it. But I was like, I 0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:49.280 don't think she said any of that ship and she didn't. 0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:52.440 She said do whatever you feel, it'll be great. And 0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:56.239 it was great, just what they wanted they don't want. 0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.360 It was cool for like a second club painting but 0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:03.080 or something like that. 0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:05.640 But if we're putting it on national TV, I'm assuming 0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:08.560 that they had a conversation prior to and that, like 0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:10.640 what you were talking about, Rod, when she called her 0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:12.080 for it, she didn't say, hey, just show up to 0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:14.200 the studio. I want you to do something. They had 0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:16.520 a conversation about probably what she wanted to do. 0:44:17.719 --> 0:44:18.480 You could have. 0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:21.160 Created freedom, but within reason, Like I think it was 0:44:21.160 --> 0:44:23.800 selfish on Jewels part. That never consider what may happen 0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:27.040 to Lexi if she does this, Like, regardless of the 0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:29.680 conversation that we have or not, your friend gave you 0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:31.280 an opportunity to get your. 0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:32.400 Work in front of other people. 0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:34.480 Do something that's good enough to go get them to 0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:36.840 look at the dick pics that you got hung in 0:44:36.920 --> 0:44:40.120 your gallery, but not right here what I work at. 0:44:40.239 --> 0:44:42.839 It almost get me fired. That's that's insane to me. 0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:46.160 That a friend, because Lexi knows who Jules is, so 0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:48.760 she I've never seen a Jewles. Y'all seen Jewish paintings. 0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:54.120 Yeah, the second episode, but she was butter naked. 0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:57.160 Clearly, Lexi knows she's a painter, so she knows that 0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:01.520 she does paints. So that's like broke does start, so 0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:02.520 she should have started her. 0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:06.359 That's like if you're a friends community and you ask 0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:09.080 your friend, Hey, my job is hiring comedians for this 0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:10.839 corporate event, can you come do. 0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:14.279 Your adding sauce to it corporate event? She didn't say 0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:18.680 all that she said, but she didn't tell us TV. 0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:21.719 She didn't on TV. She said it's a live. 0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:24.319 She said, it's l a livey seven million people are 0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:27.160 going to see this. She said that, yes, she said, 0:45:27.200 --> 0:45:29.440 she said this LA Live is seven million people are 0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:31.000 going to see this. If you had a friend that 0:45:31.080 --> 0:45:32.360 was a comedian that was going to come to your 0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:34.359 job and perform a set and they get up there 0:45:34.480 --> 0:45:36.680 don't do a blue set or whatever they call it 0:45:36.680 --> 0:45:37.719 where they don't cuss. 0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:40.120 That's on your friend. I gave you this opportunity and 0:45:40.120 --> 0:45:42.360 you you just sit on me. That's on you for 0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:46.680 not saying, hey, you can't curse. That's your ball that. 0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.440 You You know what friends you have that you have 0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:51.960 to be very very clear. 0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:54.360 About some ship and would I would. 0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:56.200 Seriously have to reconsider our friendship if you can't. 0:45:57.120 --> 0:45:59.279 And if I was your boss, I would consider you 0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:01.319 having a job because you don't have enough. 0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:05.719 Fault. 0:46:06.120 --> 0:46:06.840 That's her fault. 0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.279 I think she was being good, harded giving an opportunity 0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:11.799 to a friend and her friends just to show her 0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:12.920 any respect and ship. 0:46:13.040 --> 0:46:17.360 It on her. I'm on her. She gave her some dicks. 0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:19.920 It wasn't even like detailed dicks. I think they were 0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:22.839 dicks that could have made it to network TV. They 0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:24.040 weren't like there was like. 0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:30.360 On network TV. It's never happened. It's never happened in life. 0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:32.720 Why would she be able to It was a painting 0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:34.960 of a dick. It was an artful dick spike. You've 0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:36.360 never seen that on network TV. 0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:40.120 Either. I'm gonna look I find, I'm gonna send it 0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:44.640 to you. I don't want to tell me I would. 0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:45.480 I just would expect that. 0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:47.319 I would expect my friend to think through that more 0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:48.840 than to put me in that position. I gave you 0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:51.040 an opportunity. You just like completely let me die. 0:46:51.239 --> 0:46:52.160 What's your thoughts? Name? 0:46:53.200 --> 0:46:54.480 Yeah, I think it was on both of them. 0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:56.960 I like, initially, I feel like Lexi's more at fault 0:46:57.000 --> 0:47:04.160 for not for not expressing exactly what was required because wow, yes, 0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:06.520 this is Jules's profession. 0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:09.240 Also, like, this is your job, so. 0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:12.719 Your responsibility is to make sure that you provide what 0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:15.319 you need for this scene, and you didn't do that, 0:47:15.760 --> 0:47:18.120 Like regardless of her relationship with Jewels and whether or 0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:20.800 not like Jewels was being creative with Jewels and anybody 0:47:20.840 --> 0:47:23.400 if you knew, you know Jews, you know who you 0:47:23.480 --> 0:47:26.000 know Jeels out there, so you know you gotta rain 0:47:26.120 --> 0:47:28.200 her in or at least let her know what this 0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:31.160 is for. I think this was more so on Lexi, 0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:34.160 but it was definitely a like both of them being 0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:37.719 green and not really having experience, and neither one of 0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:40.239 them asking the right questions or giving. 0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:40.880 The right instruction. 0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:44.040 I just think Lexi is at more of a disadvantage 0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:48.560 because she is, as shares Song said, are that negative 0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:50.920 two hundred thousand plus? 0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:51.520 Like you. 0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:56.960 Up? Like they could sue her for that money for 0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:59.360 all intents and purposes, or she could be out of 0:47:59.360 --> 0:48:01.320 the dog Jeweles is gonna. 0:48:01.080 --> 0:48:02.720 Go back to her pent house and be straight. 0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:05.759 So I think this was really more all she had, more, 0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:07.520 she has more to lose in this situation. 0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:12.800 Yeah, she said, who would paint something like this? 0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:22.440 Yeah, that line, that line, I didn't know how. I 0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:24.440 didn't know what to take with that line from Lexi, 0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:27.040 Like was that something like please don't hurt my friend, 0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:31.759 like you know, this just fire or like or was 0:48:31.800 --> 0:48:33.200 it like she is trying to make sure that. 0:48:33.520 --> 0:48:34.680 I don't know how to take that line. 0:48:34.680 --> 0:48:37.200 But nonetheless, I think we all agree for the most part, 0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:40.200 this is all Lexi, because if you're gonna offer somebody something, 0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:43.480 you got to give them all the stipulations. However, if 0:48:43.560 --> 0:48:48.400 Jules was more aware of what her art can invoke 0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:53.480 or be, the response could it could could you come about? 0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:55.279 She should be like, listen, this is the kind of 0:48:55.360 --> 0:48:55.719 art I do. 0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:58.400 Like, come look at somebody to here's some photos of 0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:00.080 the arts and stuff that I've done my pa. 0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:04.560 That I know. I'm right. I'm just I'm just saying it. 0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:07.880 But because, like to Lou's point, if you're gonna do 0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:10.040 something that's getting a lot of eyes and your friend 0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:14.279 is doing is calling you in for your services, I 0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:16.400 would have you would have assumed that she would have 0:49:16.440 --> 0:49:17.520 been like, this is actually what I do. 0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:19.040 Are you sure this is the show that's for me? 0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:21.160 Cause you know what I'm saying, because she wants she 0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:23.480 wants to look as well, because she was happy about it. 0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:25.919 But obviously, again I'm not saying it's not it's still 0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:29.319 on LEXI. I'm just saying a reasonable person would have asked. 0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:31.640 But if y'all saying she's young and still figuring herself 0:49:31.680 --> 0:49:33.920 out as an artist, that could be a good reason 0:49:34.000 --> 0:49:35.200 for her not to say nothing either. 0:49:35.400 --> 0:49:37.480 Nick, If you go back to the second episode, they 0:49:37.480 --> 0:49:40.480 were showing her painting and she wasn't painting digs. I know. 0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:42.680 So when we keep saying that that's what she does, 0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:45.279 that's what she does, that's not necessarily what she does. 0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:48.160 LEXI might have seen one of the I don't want 0:49:48.160 --> 0:49:51.040 to call it regular paintings, but like the non the 0:49:51.120 --> 0:49:54.120 nondicular paintings and thought, okay, this is a good idea, 0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:57.600 and then Ju was like, well, I want to express myself, 0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:01.120 so I'm gonna go all out. This is her idea 0:50:01.239 --> 0:50:05.280 of a beach scene is not just you know, sis people, 0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:09.960 but trans people and everybody else. So I was just 0:50:09.960 --> 0:50:12.000 taking it from the standpoint from what I've seen on 0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:15.040 the show. She always does nudity in her paintings, so 0:50:15.280 --> 0:50:16.279 that's what that was. 0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:19.239 She from from the first painting that we saw her, 0:50:19.280 --> 0:50:21.400 when she was with the back of the sky of 0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:26.319 her apartment, I thought the painting had like it's still 0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:27.080 have breasts showing. 0:50:27.440 --> 0:50:30.720 It was just bent they were like bent over naked whatever. 0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:32.600 So I was just saying So I was just saying 0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:34.759 like she's always painting and nudity, because that's why that 0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:36.520 was the last line that the producer said. 0:50:36.560 --> 0:50:38.920 She was like after she brought up the breast, she. 0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:41.000 Was like, well, we don't want nudity in general, and 0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:43.160 I was like, Okay, that's something that I'm like, I 0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:45.160 think that's all she's done from what I've seen. I 0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:47.040 could be wrong, but from the paintings that we've seen 0:50:47.080 --> 0:50:49.799 her do at her spot, they've all been kind of 0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:53.920 new paintings. So my thing is, like Blu's point, if 0:50:54.000 --> 0:50:57.160 Lexi's working for Network TV, I've never seen. 0:50:58.480 --> 0:50:59.160 Dix or. 0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:04.560 Flat out on Network TV. But again it's on Lexi. 0:51:05.239 --> 0:51:09.719 But we also know we've seen two seasons of Jewels 0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:13.720 now a third, Like we have a good idea of 0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:17.200 her character and her best friend that we would assume 0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:19.799 spent a lot of his friend, but someone that spent 0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:22.200 a lot of time with her in high school should 0:51:22.239 --> 0:51:24.880 also have more of an understanding of who she is 0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:27.200 and how she operates. I think it was just Lexi 0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:31.239 being just dumb and not communicating properly, and it just 0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:33.600 backfired on it, and she just she just walked away, 0:51:33.600 --> 0:51:35.320 and she didn't know that that's what Jewles we was 0:51:35.360 --> 0:51:38.959 gonna do. If you look at Jules face, Jewles was dumbfounded. 0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:43.879 She was so confused as to what happened. She's never 0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:46.759 been in this spot before or has this sort of experience, 0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:50.080 so when she that's why she was like confused by 0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:54.440 the reaction of everything, because because of the details and 0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:56.920 information that was left out, and since she doesn't have 0:51:56.960 --> 0:51:58.480 a lot of experience, she's not going to be in 0:51:58.480 --> 0:52:01.759 the mindset to even ask about those sort of things. 0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:04.959 Although I think she was more hurt than confused, But yeah, 0:52:05.200 --> 0:52:06.399 I agree, it got to hurt. 0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:07.200 It got to hurt. 0:52:07.239 --> 0:52:10.480 She was confused at first, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, then 0:52:10.800 --> 0:52:13.279 it got to the feeling of rejection and hurt. 0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:15.480 And that's when the paint she threw the ship on it. 0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:18.000 She said. 0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:24.680 That, like because it's like, yeah, she doubled down at 0:52:24.680 --> 0:52:30.799 that point. She is a friend, right because it's like, yo, 0:52:31.000 --> 0:52:32.800 like that caid cost her job. 0:52:34.440 --> 0:52:37.080 And you know it can't no, because wait, I don't 0:52:37.080 --> 0:52:39.120 remember there being another dick. What was the what was 0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:39.640 the doubling? 0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:43.440 She made a big penis all the way around. It's 0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:45.080 like she did two balls and a dick. 0:52:46.320 --> 0:52:48.719 I didn't even notice that. Yeah, it was in the 0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:50.400 red though, yeah, yea, yeah. 0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:52.200 It was rare, but it didn't matter because they had 0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:57.439 already scrapped. So yeah, because they already said we're gonna 0:52:57.440 --> 0:52:58.560 get get rid of it. 0:52:58.600 --> 0:53:00.279 So it was irrelevant, was she it? 0:53:01.080 --> 0:53:03.439 Yeah, I'm with Ken and that was her. She was hurt. 0:53:03.480 --> 0:53:06.279 It wasn't irrelevant. It was not irrelevant. They had to 0:53:06.320 --> 0:53:08.360 stop the shoot. They had to stop the shoot and 0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:10.160 push it back a week. It cast them three. 0:53:11.120 --> 0:53:14.000 No, that was before, so they scrapped the whole scene. 0:53:14.040 --> 0:53:16.439 At that point they were like it, we'll just move 0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:16.920 the scene. 0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:19.399 Yeah, they moved it to another week. 0:53:19.440 --> 0:53:21.120 But I thought that they were doing that to give 0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:22.840 her time to fix the paint. 0:53:23.880 --> 0:53:27.320 I don't That's how it seemed to me that they 0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:28.319 told her to fix it. 0:53:28.360 --> 0:53:32.479 Paint clothes here first at first, and then they said, 0:53:32.560 --> 0:53:35.760 forget it, we'll just scrap the scene. After she painted 0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:39.680 the dicks on there again, they don't think so. 0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:41.400 No, No, that's not I don't know. 0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:43.480 Because I don't think they ever went back and saw it. 0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:47.440 I just watched it home. 0:53:47.560 --> 0:53:49.960 Right now. The assumption was that they didn't even get 0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:51.400 the dicks again, Spike was going off. 0:53:52.080 --> 0:53:53.480 I wanted to make sure I had it right. 0:53:53.520 --> 0:53:54.600 I'm gonna go look right now. 0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:57.680 When she was in the window looking out, and uh, 0:53:57.800 --> 0:53:59.200 LEXI came in there to talk to her. 0:53:59.239 --> 0:54:01.400 This is after she had painted the dicks. 0:54:01.080 --> 0:54:01.560 On there. 0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:07.120 Again, and then she told her we gave her another chance. 0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.120 Well she didn't say that, but the assumption was we 0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:10.880 gave her another chance, and then she went in here 0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:12.800 and did this. So now we got to find somebody 0:54:12.800 --> 0:54:15.160 to actually paint it. We got to rebook the studio, 0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:16.719 we got to reset the scene. 0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:21.000 That's gonna be a week and a half. And she 0:54:21.000 --> 0:54:24.920 she didn't. She shared on her friend, Well maybe she 0:54:24.920 --> 0:54:29.000 should be shipped on because she's stupid. God, that's crazy. 0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:31.719 She is stupid. 0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:35.000 Understand it that way. I thought they were pushing the 0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:37.440 scene back to allow her time. 0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:37.799 To fix it. 0:54:38.000 --> 0:54:41.719 She had this outburst, put the big yellow dick in 0:54:41.800 --> 0:54:45.600 the red bit and yeah, did that out of frustration. 0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:49.440 I wasn't necessarily looking at it as she was like, oh, 0:54:49.520 --> 0:54:52.279 forget it. And but now when you say that, yes, 0:54:52.360 --> 0:54:55.160 I do think Jules Jules doubled down on the dick. 0:54:55.920 --> 0:55:00.960 Was was was a was wrong in terms of her 0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:03.680 situation with Lexi. She should have just said, look, I'm 0:55:03.719 --> 0:55:06.000 not comfortable. You should find somebody else, like, because at 0:55:06.000 --> 0:55:09.359 this point I'm mad, my creative process has been messed up. 0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:11.200 You need to find somebody else to do that. But 0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:14.319 instead she threw a timper tantrum and drew the big 0:55:14.400 --> 0:55:18.240 victim the little dicks, and so yes that I feel 0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:21.920 like was wrong in that sense in terms of her 0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:24.640 relationship with Lexi, but they're both in a situation where 0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:25.160 they're hurt. 0:55:25.280 --> 0:55:26.279 At this point. 0:55:27.200 --> 0:55:29.640 You have to consider though, that Jewels took that as 0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:33.480 an attack on her trans identity. Correct, So I'm not 0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:36.040 gonna fucking be like, oh, well, she's a bad friend. 0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:39.520 I'm still looking at Lexi like Lexi is stupid, and 0:55:39.680 --> 0:55:42.680 if anything, she should feel bad for putting Jewels in 0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:44.960 that kind of position to where she would have her 0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:48.359 identity fucking challenge like that. So I don't feel bad 0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:49.719 for Lexi. 0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:52.799 I think stupid is a little harsh. 0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:54.480 Okay, dumb as fuck? Is that matter? 0:55:57.040 --> 0:56:00.000 Going into it? I think they're bally naives going into it. 0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:01.520 I think it's growing pains when. 0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:03.240 You're in a new career and in a new field 0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:05.799 and try to figure out who you are, especially when 0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:08.200 your identity is connected to what you're doing. 0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:15.040 So I think, yeah, I never had you said that, 0:56:16.320 --> 0:56:17.800 she would have never had to worry about hearing from me. 0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:21.240 She wouldn't be your friend Anywaysike. 0:56:23.440 --> 0:56:27.040 If I was whoever, if I was Lexi, she would 0:56:27.239 --> 0:56:30.120 have to worry about me being I do believe. 0:56:29.800 --> 0:56:31.880 That they're going to have an argument about this. I 0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:35.160 think we will hear both perspectives on what happened. I 0:56:35.200 --> 0:56:37.040 don't think that was just a one off thing. 0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:40.680 I don't think well. 0:56:40.719 --> 0:56:43.680 I think it would be interesting to dive into why 0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:47.960 Jules was hurt, and then we obviously know why Lexi 0:56:48.000 --> 0:56:48.840 is going to be upset. 0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:50.839 But I think it'll be interesting to see why Jules 0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:51.719 was hurt specifically. 0:56:56.320 --> 0:56:59.520 Moving on, we'll recap those how those storylines go, but 0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:01.839 we can. You gotta get to the buried delete enough 0:57:01.880 --> 0:57:05.600 can Let's get Let's get back to Rue where we 0:57:05.640 --> 0:57:08.640 start off this episode. She's getting arrested like we saw 0:57:08.640 --> 0:57:11.799 her in the last one, but this time she we learned. Well, 0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:13.680 at least I thought I was like, damn, Rue got away. 0:57:13.800 --> 0:57:19.640 She ain't had no drugs. But man, oh man, they 0:57:19.640 --> 0:57:22.720 can drive a van in Mexico that goes to Mexico. 0:57:23.480 --> 0:57:25.400 Hey, something something's in there. 0:57:27.040 --> 0:57:30.800 He found out she sucked up, right, They always gonna 0:57:30.800 --> 0:57:32.560 find it. You can sit there and hope all you 0:57:32.600 --> 0:57:34.920 want it. They don't find it once they call them 0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:35.920 dogs just over with. 0:57:37.400 --> 0:57:37.960 It's over with. 0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:43.160 H she get arrested, uh, and they immediately start asking 0:57:43.160 --> 0:57:45.560 her questions about Lorie. But I want to just going 0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:48.240 overall thoughts on the interrogation scene. I'm gonna start with, 0:57:48.320 --> 0:57:51.960 you can did Rude hold up like a soldier? 0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:54.240 Rude? 0:57:54.520 --> 0:57:58.200 Rude has got to be one of the dumbest persons 0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:02.480 out there, bro, Like she she can't lie, Like when 0:58:02.520 --> 0:58:06.960 she started making that little little face, you know, it's 0:58:06.960 --> 0:58:09.080 a wrap, you know, it's like she just she already 0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:09.880 knows she's in trouble. 0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:11.800 No, she was absolutely terrible. 0:58:12.600 --> 0:58:15.800 She did not hold the line at all, and and 0:58:15.880 --> 0:58:20.040 I think she just felled horribly at her job, even 0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:22.800 lying about Mexico line about drugs. 0:58:22.840 --> 0:58:24.080 But what I did think was funny. 0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:25.400 She was like, Oh, you guys can lie to me, 0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:29.520 but I can't lie to you. That ship was funny 0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:34.120 to me. But No, was terrible in this whole situation. 0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:37.920 And yeah, no she didn't. She was awful. 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:39.440 And I don't know what she's gonna do. 0:58:39.480 --> 0:58:50.120 Bro, She's a snitch, She's gonna snitch. 0:58:51.920 --> 0:58:52.040 It. 0:58:52.080 --> 0:58:54.760 But yeah, I feel like she should have been coached 0:58:54.800 --> 0:58:56.480 on what to do in this situation by one of 0:58:56.520 --> 0:58:59.760 these two people twice just asked for a lawyer, Like 0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:01.600 it's just ask for a lawyer and figure out on 0:59:01.640 --> 0:59:03.400 the back end. Now you ain't got to be a 0:59:03.480 --> 0:59:06.600 snitch or whatever it may be. But yeah, she up 0:59:06.600 --> 0:59:07.080 shit creep. 0:59:10.200 --> 0:59:14.520 I would say that I thought they did an amazing 0:59:14.600 --> 0:59:16.000 job acting in this scene. 0:59:16.680 --> 0:59:17.720 Did and like. 0:59:17.680 --> 0:59:19.800 When I was watching it and I was thinking about 0:59:19.840 --> 0:59:22.440 like her mannerisms, like the way she was shaking her 0:59:22.480 --> 0:59:25.800 legs under the table, her facial expressions, and then when 0:59:25.840 --> 0:59:28.240 I think about her and like other stuff like. 0:59:28.200 --> 0:59:30.880 The drama, I think about her and challenges. I'm like, 0:59:30.880 --> 0:59:32.240 this girl can really. 0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:36.760 Act like she's really good and she's a horrible liar, 0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:40.800 but I believe that, Like I like, I felt like 0:59:41.120 --> 0:59:44.320 that was a stoner kid, Like I really believed she 0:59:44.520 --> 0:59:45.480 was ruthe. 0:59:47.840 --> 0:59:50.120 What about you, Rod, what's the actual question? 0:59:50.960 --> 0:59:52.800 What did you think about the interrogation scene? 0:59:53.680 --> 0:59:56.680 Oh? No, thought I thought it was good. 0:59:56.920 --> 1:00:01.160 I like how they were interrogating her with the drugs, 1:00:01.240 --> 1:00:03.640 lying tour all this just kind of trying to pull 1:00:03.680 --> 1:00:09.240 information out of it that was executed really well. Yeah, 1:00:09.240 --> 1:00:11.760 I agree with Nate, like like she like then Dan's 1:00:11.840 --> 1:00:14.600 killing this character, like like She is really doing a 1:00:14.640 --> 1:00:20.000 great job with this character. But I couldn't help to 1:00:20.040 --> 1:00:22.520 be annoyed though, because of the conversation that we had 1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:25.280 last week. I was looking at day. We watched it 1:00:25.280 --> 1:00:29.640 together last night, and I was like, they really about 1:00:29.680 --> 1:00:30.040 to do it? 1:00:30.160 --> 1:00:33.560 I was like, they really and then like this is 1:00:33.560 --> 1:00:36.280 how it became. Wow. 1:00:38.520 --> 1:00:40.600 I like the comp that's the rest of the. 1:00:40.560 --> 1:00:44.480 Season me entertainment. 1:00:47.320 --> 1:00:51.920 If somebody said they had a picture of the moon, absolutely. 1:00:51.760 --> 1:00:52.880 Because I've never been to the. 1:00:54.720 --> 1:00:58.320 Talking about hypothetical, so you don't have a hypothetical. 1:00:59.200 --> 1:01:00.480 That was a good scene right there. 1:01:03.320 --> 1:01:07.840 So dirty around, you know, I mean, I've gotten lost. 1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:12.600 Hey, Rod, it's funny you called the cops thirty to 1:01:12.760 --> 1:01:14.320 somebody who's selling drugs. 1:01:19.840 --> 1:01:25.440 You made me lots they did they? 1:01:26.920 --> 1:01:27.600 No, they didn't. 1:01:28.560 --> 1:01:29.440 That's very direct. 1:01:29.480 --> 1:01:32.120 It was a question. 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:35.320 She mexic D. 1:01:35.920 --> 1:01:39.680 Right, that's a direct question, Mike. 1:01:40.320 --> 1:01:43.320 Mike, did you have any issues with this being a 1:01:43.400 --> 1:01:46.160 storyline for Rue carrying on to the second half of 1:01:46.160 --> 1:01:46.600 the season. 1:01:47.480 --> 1:01:50.960 Absolutely not. I'm I'm I guess I'm a bit confused 1:01:51.000 --> 1:01:53.720 about the whole because I don't subscribe to the whole 1:01:53.720 --> 1:01:56.120 stupid don't Snitch ship. I don't give a fuck about 1:01:56.120 --> 1:01:58.880 any of that stuff. So, and I meant to listen 1:01:58.960 --> 1:02:01.040 to y'all's review, but I I didn't get a chance to. 1:02:01.160 --> 1:02:03.520 So I don't know what the conversation is around snitching. 1:02:04.400 --> 1:02:07.280 But in my opinion, and I'll be on an island, 1:02:07.840 --> 1:02:11.000 Ru being a snitch one makes the most sense, and 1:02:11.120 --> 1:02:16.160 two absolutely works. And I actually, I actually like it. 1:02:16.240 --> 1:02:18.160 I like the fact that Rue is now a snitch 1:02:19.000 --> 1:02:22.920 because of course Ru would be a snitch. Ru is 1:02:23.000 --> 1:02:26.640 not going down for anybody. So if they didn't make 1:02:26.680 --> 1:02:28.960 her a snitch, I would then question the writing of 1:02:29.000 --> 1:02:29.440 this show. 1:02:30.920 --> 1:02:31.439 Well, it wasn't. 1:02:31.440 --> 1:02:32.880 In fact, I don't really think it was the fact 1:02:32.880 --> 1:02:35.080 that she was a snitch that we were talking about. 1:02:35.160 --> 1:02:37.720 It was more since that they went that route, like 1:02:37.760 --> 1:02:39.880 of course, like Nick was saying last week, of course, 1:02:39.920 --> 1:02:42.160 if she gets caught, she's gonna beet snitched. But I 1:02:42.160 --> 1:02:43.880 think we were on the stand so well, we don't 1:02:43.920 --> 1:02:46.320 even want to see that. There's a lot more interesting 1:02:46.400 --> 1:02:48.240 things that we could do with this character in these 1:02:48.240 --> 1:02:51.000 scenarios versus her getting caught by the police. 1:02:51.320 --> 1:02:53.960 I think her getting caught by the police and becoming 1:02:54.080 --> 1:02:59.880 a fucking snitch against her will is one hundred. It's 1:03:00.040 --> 1:03:02.320 what would happen because it's the same shit I said 1:03:02.320 --> 1:03:04.640 on the very first episode. Ru is a fucking dumb ass. 1:03:05.440 --> 1:03:09.560 She's not a very savvy person. She can manipulate her 1:03:09.560 --> 1:03:13.720 family members and her friends. That's where it stops anybody 1:03:13.720 --> 1:03:17.240 outside of that circle. Ru is a fuck up, and 1:03:17.360 --> 1:03:22.720 her fucking up this bad and ending up a snitch. 1:03:23.680 --> 1:03:25.440 I'm here for it. I'm here for it. 1:03:28.640 --> 1:03:33.040 Yeah, I was just I wasn't surprised. But also, like 1:03:33.160 --> 1:03:35.080 when you see the breakdown of the wire, this is 1:03:35.120 --> 1:03:37.120 where I was getting to lose point, and I think 1:03:37.120 --> 1:03:39.120 it's some others where it's like we see her get 1:03:39.120 --> 1:03:42.240 the wire, and while we see it's in a more 1:03:42.720 --> 1:03:44.600 tech savvy way, it's now on a cell phone when 1:03:44.640 --> 1:03:46.160 she just got to press a button and it just 1:03:46.240 --> 1:03:47.720 kind of starts recording everything. 1:03:49.400 --> 1:03:50.600 That leads us to like. 1:03:52.120 --> 1:03:54.919 Us seeing her with Big Eddie, and then that leads 1:03:54.960 --> 1:03:57.680 us to us seeing her with Alamo at the poker's table, 1:03:57.680 --> 1:04:00.400 which I felt like was like the biggest part of 1:04:00.520 --> 1:04:04.360 like one of the best scenes of this episode. Uh Ken, 1:04:04.400 --> 1:04:05.960 I wanted to throw it to you again. What did 1:04:05.960 --> 1:04:08.440 you think about that poker scene with Alamo? Did you 1:04:08.480 --> 1:04:11.640 think she got caught immediately because it's just rude. 1:04:12.880 --> 1:04:16.120 Yeah, she doesn't know, like she's horrible at this. She's 1:04:16.160 --> 1:04:19.000 never been good at it ever. We've seen this, so 1:04:19.040 --> 1:04:21.560 we know that when rude. And first of all, she's 1:04:21.600 --> 1:04:24.200 never really even asked about inn this situation. So I'm 1:04:24.200 --> 1:04:28.919 with Alamo, like, you're inserting yourself into business and you've 1:04:28.960 --> 1:04:29.960 never done that before. 1:04:30.120 --> 1:04:30.920 This is weird. 1:04:31.200 --> 1:04:33.800 What what he called and said, she has the rat 1:04:34.280 --> 1:04:37.960 you know, yeah, look in your face. And I thought 1:04:37.960 --> 1:04:40.360 he was talking about snitche too, because it seemed like 1:04:40.400 --> 1:04:43.120 a guy like Alamo is up on top of his game. 1:04:43.920 --> 1:04:50.400 So for him to go to using I mean, I 1:04:50.960 --> 1:04:53.120 guess that makes sense, but I thought I thought of 1:04:53.240 --> 1:04:54.360 Knelt And. 1:04:56.240 --> 1:04:59.680 To your point, Ken Like, his demeanor is like, there's 1:04:59.720 --> 1:05:01.720 a mes to my madness. I'm not just some like 1:05:02.640 --> 1:05:07.960 goofy charismatic dude or whatever. But because he knows she 1:05:08.080 --> 1:05:09.720 used to be a user, that's the first thing I 1:05:09.720 --> 1:05:11.320 would think. If she's off her game. You know what 1:05:11.320 --> 1:05:14.040 I'm saying, Oh, you're using drugs again, I wouldn't think 1:05:14.080 --> 1:05:14.440 she's a. 1:05:14.440 --> 1:05:15.240 Snitch just yet. 1:05:15.280 --> 1:05:17.680 I mean, it's it's not too That's probably the second 1:05:17.720 --> 1:05:18.680 or third thing I'll go to. 1:05:18.840 --> 1:05:19.720 But the first thing is but. 1:05:19.760 --> 1:05:22.480 She's asking about like connects and shit, right. 1:05:22.960 --> 1:05:25.040 She's trying to get more drugs, like as a drug. 1:05:25.040 --> 1:05:30.040 Would drugs, And if she was, I think I think 1:05:30.080 --> 1:05:32.480 he suspected her, Like can't say because she was just usual, 1:05:32.520 --> 1:05:34.520 she was still out of the club, like she would 1:05:34.560 --> 1:05:36.480 just go that route, wouldn't bring it to their attention. 1:05:37.600 --> 1:05:40.720 He's absolutely correct, correct, And I like what you said 1:05:40.760 --> 1:05:42.080 about this scene. I think it was one of the 1:05:42.080 --> 1:05:44.760 best of the episode because how they try to double 1:05:44.800 --> 1:05:47.800 untendre with the rat thing. But I think he thinks 1:05:47.840 --> 1:05:50.360 that something's up besides her using like he thinks that 1:05:50.440 --> 1:05:52.280 she's snitching it. But then that's why I don't like 1:05:52.800 --> 1:05:56.520 this whole snitching storyline, because that's a very easy trope 1:05:56.520 --> 1:05:57.960 to play on you see it, damn there and every 1:05:58.000 --> 1:05:59.400 show that got something to do with the police. 1:05:59.520 --> 1:06:00.440 So I don't like it. 1:06:00.760 --> 1:06:03.160 But I think that he thinks that something is up 1:06:03.200 --> 1:06:04.600 as far as here talking to the police. 1:06:05.840 --> 1:06:06.760 You agree with that name. 1:06:08.160 --> 1:06:09.960 I don't know if at a BC knows, but I 1:06:10.000 --> 1:06:15.240 feel like Bishop does because Bishop was with her that night. 1:06:17.080 --> 1:06:21.920 So I always want, like I wonder, like like because 1:06:22.000 --> 1:06:25.240 I honestly initially thought that he was the second part 1:06:25.240 --> 1:06:29.520 of pulling up when she got pulled over. Before I 1:06:29.600 --> 1:06:32.840 realized that that was another cop car, I thought Bishop 1:06:32.920 --> 1:06:37.200 was somewhere around, So I think Bishop may have an inkling. 1:06:36.800 --> 1:06:39.520 Of what's going on. But I will say that, like, 1:06:39.680 --> 1:06:41.800 I really like A to BC in this role. 1:06:42.040 --> 1:06:45.480 I do like, as much as I agree with you, 1:06:45.680 --> 1:06:47.720 I feel like every show that has to do with 1:06:47.800 --> 1:06:50.920 cops or drugs this is an angle at some point 1:06:50.920 --> 1:06:55.000 in time. So while yeah, it makes sense, I do 1:06:55.080 --> 1:06:58.600 feel like it's done, but I feel like the acting 1:06:58.840 --> 1:07:01.800 is so strong that even though I'm annoyed by the 1:07:01.800 --> 1:07:05.160 clicheness of it all, it's still tense. So I think 1:07:05.280 --> 1:07:09.560 everybody Marshawn Lynch like, I feel like the characters in 1:07:09.600 --> 1:07:12.680 this whole little proof they have is strong enough to 1:07:12.800 --> 1:07:15.560 pull it off to it still entertainment. 1:07:17.280 --> 1:07:21.680 To add on to that, uh, Today's point Rod Like, 1:07:22.520 --> 1:07:24.560 I love the scene where at A. B C like 1:07:24.600 --> 1:07:26.800 he the only one really talking to rule. Everybody else 1:07:26.840 --> 1:07:30.280 still playing poker. Marshawn is smoking the blunt. Bishop just 1:07:30.280 --> 1:07:33.240 want to know if he won the hand because it's 1:07:33.280 --> 1:07:35.960 basically him. But Adam b C is like literally looking 1:07:36.000 --> 1:07:38.640 at her like like as bishop saying like something to him. 1:07:38.640 --> 1:07:40.000 He was like, man, shut the fuck up, nigga. He 1:07:43.160 --> 1:07:45.840 like he really talking to Rule. And I love the 1:07:45.880 --> 1:07:48.480 acting in the in the scene. I wanted to get 1:07:48.520 --> 1:07:50.400 you just your thoughts on that poker scene. And do 1:07:50.480 --> 1:07:53.320 you think Alamo will be the one that finds out 1:07:53.360 --> 1:07:54.600 Rule Central will be somebody else? 1:07:57.160 --> 1:07:57.400 Yeah? 1:07:58.200 --> 1:08:03.600 Oh, I kind of have the idea that maybe maybe 1:08:03.120 --> 1:08:07.560 as in it to a certain degree, like to take 1:08:07.640 --> 1:08:14.480 Laurie outch So so maybe, you know, maybe maybe that 1:08:14.560 --> 1:08:16.600 might be a way that he you know, because you 1:08:16.640 --> 1:08:18.759 don't want to you don't want to be an actual snitch, 1:08:18.760 --> 1:08:21.559 so he'll let He'll make Ruby a snitch because it's 1:08:21.640 --> 1:08:21.960 just like. 1:08:21.920 --> 1:08:24.400 How to him. I don't know. It just seemed random 1:08:24.439 --> 1:08:25.439 that they pulled her over. 1:08:26.040 --> 1:08:26.880 They've been watching her. 1:08:27.240 --> 1:08:28.120 It seems real. 1:08:30.120 --> 1:08:35.000 Laurie on the investigation, So that's why I agree with Spike. Yeah, 1:08:35.080 --> 1:08:38.720 because remember they showed she was walking into somewhere and 1:08:38.760 --> 1:08:41.280 they showed the perspective of somebody in the car watching her. 1:08:41.360 --> 1:08:44.000 So at the time we thought it was we thought 1:08:44.000 --> 1:08:48.160 it was either Laurie or Alamo, but I actually now 1:08:48.240 --> 1:08:49.560 I think it was the cops. 1:08:50.080 --> 1:08:50.280 Yep. 1:08:51.560 --> 1:08:55.679 I don't think Alamo would risk uh her getting turned 1:08:55.720 --> 1:08:58.439 in because he doesn't know what she might tell me. 1:08:58.479 --> 1:09:06.760 Adams on the Alamo he always name I didn't do 1:09:06.800 --> 1:09:13.800 it this time, that was that wash. He's responsible for 1:09:13.920 --> 1:09:16.439 multiple murders at this point, so I don't think he 1:09:16.479 --> 1:09:17.800 would take that risk. 1:09:18.760 --> 1:09:20.040 Unless they off his payroll. 1:09:21.400 --> 1:09:24.000 Because why is that the night that they caught her 1:09:24.920 --> 1:09:30.360 like she unless she was leaving Laurie's why like why 1:09:30.400 --> 1:09:32.519 and asked Ruth to do that? He said he was 1:09:32.600 --> 1:09:35.959 sending Rude to do the pick up. Lauri wasn't even 1:09:36.080 --> 1:09:37.160 anticipating that. 1:09:37.400 --> 1:09:40.599 Why Well, because because they were watching Rude. I think 1:09:40.600 --> 1:09:45.000 it would be weird if so. The writing so far 1:09:45.040 --> 1:09:48.360 of this season hasn't been great, So if they did 1:09:48.560 --> 1:09:53.080 write in that that Alamo did this but he got 1:09:53.120 --> 1:09:55.760 away with it because he's paying the cops off, I 1:09:55.800 --> 1:09:58.080 think that would be a little convoluted and I wouldn't 1:09:58.160 --> 1:10:04.559 like it. No, Yeah, it's not crazy, It's not a 1:10:04.560 --> 1:10:07.760 crazy thought. Was what was your thoughts on this scene? Mike? 1:10:09.600 --> 1:10:12.040 I'm sorry I was stuck on that that part that 1:10:12.120 --> 1:10:14.639 Rob was talking about. What scene exactly? The poker scene. 1:10:14.640 --> 1:10:18.200 The poker scene oh so nah, this scene was good. 1:10:18.240 --> 1:10:22.040 I definitely thought he knew. I was like, oh shit, 1:10:23.280 --> 1:10:27.479 she done gave everything away. I'm assuming she had the 1:10:27.520 --> 1:10:31.240 phone in the fanny pack, and I just assumed in 1:10:31.320 --> 1:10:33.760 that moment he figured out what was going on. But 1:10:33.800 --> 1:10:36.040 then when he kind of changed it to oh are 1:10:36.080 --> 1:10:39.559 you using, I was like, Okay, cool, she's She's fine 1:10:39.680 --> 1:10:43.360 for right now, but not the whole scene, from the 1:10:43.400 --> 1:10:45.840 from the interrogation with the police. I agree with Nay. 1:10:46.000 --> 1:10:50.400 I think Zendaya killed this fucking scene because that's probably 1:10:50.400 --> 1:10:52.880 how I would lie if I was busted doing some 1:10:52.920 --> 1:10:56.880 shit and a cop caught me. I'm not a good liar, 1:10:56.920 --> 1:11:00.280 so I would fucking I would freeze up too. But 1:11:00.400 --> 1:11:04.080 her being in front of Alamo, she just has the 1:11:04.120 --> 1:11:08.240 same childish I just got busted doing some ship I'm 1:11:08.240 --> 1:11:10.519 not supposed to be doing. Look and it's so fucking good. 1:11:11.120 --> 1:11:13.559 But I don't know anything about Marshawn Lynch. I know 1:11:13.600 --> 1:11:16.439 who he is, of course, I don't know if he's 1:11:16.439 --> 1:11:20.360 like a real actor, but he's doing so well in 1:11:20.400 --> 1:11:24.240 this scene. He's okay. 1:11:24.560 --> 1:11:25.720 I feel like that's just him. 1:11:25.760 --> 1:11:31.719 It's just it's just him, Okay, But get he's getting 1:11:31.760 --> 1:11:35.840 rolls good to him. He's funny. I'll take it. I'll 1:11:35.840 --> 1:11:38.679 take it. He's funny. But no, this is a really, really, 1:11:38.680 --> 1:11:39.439 really good scene. 1:11:40.080 --> 1:11:42.639 I think the guy from Power did a good job 1:11:42.640 --> 1:11:43.320 in this scene too. 1:11:44.000 --> 1:11:45.439 Bishop. Who was that. 1:11:47.920 --> 1:11:48.240 Bishop? 1:11:48.600 --> 1:11:48.880 Remember? 1:11:48.920 --> 1:11:49.560 I remember. 1:11:52.720 --> 1:11:52.760 That? 1:11:54.200 --> 1:11:55.439 Remember that coming man. 1:12:00.960 --> 1:12:06.200 Name was Droopy? Is it with? He was in the 1:12:06.240 --> 1:12:08.360 first season of Power Man. He was in the first 1:12:08.360 --> 1:12:08.960 season of Power. 1:12:09.080 --> 1:12:11.360 I don't want to take nick to push it back. 1:12:12.600 --> 1:12:14.400 Yo, were terror original. 1:12:16.080 --> 1:12:16.639 A little bit. 1:12:18.360 --> 1:12:19.320 Greats? I'm like. 1:12:23.280 --> 1:12:28.840 Fool but but yeah, but then now he was ghost 1:12:28.880 --> 1:12:30.360 killed him on accident. 1:12:31.640 --> 1:12:33.400 Spoiler alert is spoiler alert. 1:12:33.439 --> 1:12:35.920 And he was the first. 1:12:37.520 --> 1:12:40.800 But you got that look in your eye and. 1:12:40.880 --> 1:12:42.840 He lost the poker again. Can't say you don't he. 1:12:46.720 --> 1:12:50.400 Was hot. You said this ship and you played this 1:12:50.479 --> 1:12:51.280 way the whole time. 1:12:52.439 --> 1:12:54.160 I think he's gonna get another big role after this. 1:12:54.200 --> 1:12:55.479 He knowing his body in this ship? 1:12:56.080 --> 1:12:56.680 Is he is? 1:12:59.040 --> 1:13:01.960 We see again we when we were getting rude to 1:13:02.040 --> 1:13:04.360 show us how the wire works, she was in the 1:13:04.439 --> 1:13:10.400 room with at a BC big Eddie and there was 1:13:10.439 --> 1:13:13.120 a yeah, there was a kitty who we got introduced to. 1:13:13.439 --> 1:13:16.240 Who's the you know in the title of this episode, 1:13:16.840 --> 1:13:19.960 And then we see how Alamo gets acquainted with his 1:13:20.040 --> 1:13:21.600 new you know, employees. 1:13:22.360 --> 1:13:24.440 Do y'all think that he do that for all the girls. 1:13:24.120 --> 1:13:26.479 Like he sleep with every single one of them testing 1:13:26.479 --> 1:13:26.960 the product? 1:13:27.120 --> 1:13:29.320 That's right? Why wouldn't you. 1:13:32.720 --> 1:13:34.599 I didn't know he do that with like on rip, 1:13:34.640 --> 1:13:35.160 I didn't think he. 1:13:35.280 --> 1:13:37.360 I thought it would be more like his the girls 1:13:37.360 --> 1:13:39.200 that he's like had for a while, Like those are 1:13:39.240 --> 1:13:41.880 the ones he makes it like doing it early? 1:13:42.080 --> 1:13:42.439 Is it was? 1:13:42.520 --> 1:13:45.599 You and chefs don't taste their cooking before they put 1:13:45.600 --> 1:13:56.800 it on the men unit. I'm just saying, bro, you 1:13:56.880 --> 1:14:00.200 think Carme wasn't testing all of the you know what 1:14:00.240 --> 1:14:00.719 I'm saying. 1:14:01.479 --> 1:14:07.760 We watched the. 1:14:04.840 --> 1:14:07.880 Seasons, Bro, you got a miche one star nick. 1:14:08.120 --> 1:14:11.640 You think you don't know what the food tastes like? 1:14:13.760 --> 1:14:23.000 I believe you ain't got nothing to say out what 1:14:23.120 --> 1:14:25.879 you're saying that. I'm sorry you were saying something I said. 1:14:25.720 --> 1:14:28.080 Y'all preparing women the rice and pussy, the paprika. 1:14:28.160 --> 1:14:28.519 I don't know. 1:14:33.120 --> 1:14:34.280 It was, I mean. 1:14:38.560 --> 1:14:39.360 It was it was. 1:14:39.479 --> 1:14:41.680 It was because this is the fun up side of 1:14:41.720 --> 1:14:43.639 what I believe they're trying to show with sex work 1:14:43.720 --> 1:14:45.439 is where we were kind of get to like this is 1:14:45.479 --> 1:14:47.639 how you get initiated and then this is what you're 1:14:47.640 --> 1:14:49.640 pretty much asked to do, especially when you go to 1:14:49.680 --> 1:14:52.800 the room with the with the bull on the bull's 1:14:52.840 --> 1:14:54.640 head on the on the wall and ship got a 1:14:54.680 --> 1:15:00.360 camera in it, to the point where Kitty was like, well, 1:15:00.479 --> 1:15:02.240 she was traumatized on her first day. 1:15:02.280 --> 1:15:03.799 This was like training day for hers. 1:15:04.960 --> 1:15:07.360 What did y'all think of because, like you mentioned, lou 1:15:08.000 --> 1:15:11.519 Rue is becoming very more sensitive to these girls and 1:15:11.920 --> 1:15:14.720 how they're being treated, especially when she was watching it. 1:15:15.040 --> 1:15:17.840 You know what I'm saying, What did you think? Does 1:15:17.880 --> 1:15:20.920 she make a mistake for approaching her in the bathroom? 1:15:21.439 --> 1:15:22.000 Absolutely? 1:15:22.920 --> 1:15:25.360 I mean this this is the environment that you work in, 1:15:25.960 --> 1:15:28.720 and you don't she try to look under the stall 1:15:28.760 --> 1:15:30.519 and she was the girl there when she lifted her 1:15:30.520 --> 1:15:34.720 feet up. But I don't feel like how ru would 1:15:34.760 --> 1:15:36.080 have been able to help her if she hadn't had 1:15:36.120 --> 1:15:36.519 an answer? 1:15:36.760 --> 1:15:39.400 Yes, So like while is. 1:15:39.360 --> 1:15:43.760 She asking her that other than just being of course concerned, 1:15:43.760 --> 1:15:46.920 but just putting herself in a bad position, Like even 1:15:47.120 --> 1:15:49.920 even if that girl wasn't in the stall, the kiddie 1:15:49.960 --> 1:15:51.519 chick would have went back and told on her then 1:15:51.600 --> 1:15:55.720 what it was putting yourself? But I'm saying, you don't 1:15:55.800 --> 1:15:58.320 know that if you route, you don't just put yourself 1:15:58.360 --> 1:16:01.040 in a bad situation. If you going asking her this 1:16:01.840 --> 1:16:03.800 and like, it's just there's no need for you to 1:16:03.800 --> 1:16:06.120 do that. You've already accepted the fact that you worked there, 1:16:07.000 --> 1:16:09.240 like turning the blind as part of the job. 1:16:10.680 --> 1:16:13.200 Question. I have two questions, I said. 1:16:13.840 --> 1:16:18.000 The first question is was she asking Okay, wait, let 1:16:18.040 --> 1:16:18.920 me ask the first one. 1:16:19.560 --> 1:16:20.880 Let me reverse the questions. 1:16:21.760 --> 1:16:25.200 Was grew upset by what she did because she gave 1:16:25.240 --> 1:16:31.479 her uh pills that were fake that didn't work, and 1:16:31.560 --> 1:16:36.960 that she wasn't like like she was. 1:16:37.280 --> 1:16:39.719 They were still they were still using the actual drugs. 1:16:39.760 --> 1:16:42.000 She was concerned because she saw that the stash was 1:16:42.080 --> 1:16:44.840 running law and she knew they were about. 1:16:44.439 --> 1:16:45.800 To have to go to use. 1:16:46.400 --> 1:16:50.160 Okay, she got the fake so the girl was really high. 1:16:50.200 --> 1:16:51.120 Okay, okay, cool. 1:16:51.200 --> 1:16:55.120 Second question, because that was she asking that question in 1:16:55.240 --> 1:16:58.760 order to get evidence for the FED. 1:16:59.000 --> 1:17:02.880 Now that she was checking in Okay, all right, cool, Yeah, yeah, 1:17:03.280 --> 1:17:03.719 that's not. 1:17:03.640 --> 1:17:04.280 Gonna help that. 1:17:04.280 --> 1:17:06.320 That's not the defans are looking for defense are looking 1:17:06.360 --> 1:17:10.599 for LORI or another distributor. So I think that that's 1:17:10.640 --> 1:17:14.719 just the nature ru I think Ruth hasn't really fully 1:17:14.920 --> 1:17:18.800 accepted until this point who she's actually working for. Like 1:17:18.920 --> 1:17:21.920 she I think she still thinks that Angel is at 1:17:21.920 --> 1:17:25.479 a rehab center, right, so she's starting to realize. I 1:17:25.560 --> 1:17:27.760 think she's slowly starting to realize when they said that 1:17:27.920 --> 1:17:30.920 Angel left and nobody can find her, like she's starting 1:17:30.960 --> 1:17:34.120 to kind of realize that this is not really what 1:17:34.360 --> 1:17:38.599 she thinks it is. So I think that she saw 1:17:38.640 --> 1:17:40.760 what was going on, and I think that started on 1:17:40.760 --> 1:17:42.760 her rooms. Still a girl at the end of the day, 1:17:42.800 --> 1:17:45.880 she's still like like in young a young, naive girl 1:17:46.160 --> 1:17:48.799 who doesn't realize that she's really working with the devil. 1:17:48.880 --> 1:17:53.400 So when she saw Kitty doing what she was doing 1:17:53.439 --> 1:17:56.360 in there, she like, damn, this is really a whole house, 1:17:56.479 --> 1:17:58.599 Like it's really like, that's really. 1:17:58.360 --> 1:17:59.120 What this is. 1:18:01.720 --> 1:18:05.040 You took this, you took that same kind of takeaway 1:18:05.120 --> 1:18:06.080 when they were saying. 1:18:05.880 --> 1:18:13.599 Mike, yes, yeah. Ruis finally realizing that she went from 1:18:14.200 --> 1:18:16.200 bad to wor maybe not bad to words, but bad 1:18:16.200 --> 1:18:22.639 to bad. She's realizing she assisted in one woman getting killed, 1:18:23.520 --> 1:18:27.519 now she assisted in another woman getting disappeared, and she's 1:18:27.840 --> 1:18:30.479 she feels bad and plus, I mean, nobody wants to 1:18:30.520 --> 1:18:33.280 watch even if you can't classify this as you know, 1:18:33.360 --> 1:18:37.720 quote unquote traditional sexual assault. Nobody wants to sit there 1:18:37.720 --> 1:18:39.640 and watch that. Like Ru was staring at that like 1:18:39.680 --> 1:18:42.040 it was a fucking horror movie, you know, And I 1:18:42.080 --> 1:18:43.920 don't want to see shit like this either. But it 1:18:44.000 --> 1:18:46.160 was uncomfortable as hell, and it went on for a 1:18:46.200 --> 1:18:50.560 long fucking time. So I think Ru was genuinely disturbed 1:18:50.560 --> 1:18:54.760 by what she was seeing, especially all the bro of 1:18:56.000 --> 1:18:58.080 you know, slapping each other's ass like it's a fucking 1:18:58.080 --> 1:19:01.960 football game. It was gross. So yeah, Now, the whole 1:19:02.040 --> 1:19:06.479 question that Ken asked, I didn't think of that if 1:19:06.479 --> 1:19:10.240 she was really high or not, are we sure she was? 1:19:12.360 --> 1:19:14.960 Name makes a good case for why, like Rue was 1:19:15.000 --> 1:19:16.680 worried of like she kept looking at the safe from 1:19:16.680 --> 1:19:17.400 where she put. 1:19:17.600 --> 1:19:20.120 Her faintnie pack in that had the drugs. 1:19:20.720 --> 1:19:23.720 But at the same time, I did think, I did 1:19:23.760 --> 1:19:26.439 think that she took the candy drugs or the fake drugs, 1:19:26.720 --> 1:19:29.559 and that's why she was just so distraught after everything, 1:19:29.560 --> 1:19:31.760 because she was like, Nick, I just got fucked in 1:19:31.960 --> 1:19:33.839 a thousand ways and I felt everything. 1:19:34.120 --> 1:19:36.519 I wasn't supposed to feel it. No, But I think 1:19:36.680 --> 1:19:38.720 now that she said it, now that you recaptain Nick. 1:19:38.760 --> 1:19:41.200 I think Nay is right. The fake drugs were in 1:19:41.240 --> 1:19:45.800 the safe in her fanny pack. Got yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah. 1:19:47.000 --> 1:19:49.920 I think the girl, look that Brice girl. 1:19:49.960 --> 1:19:51.360 I think she's going a good drug too. 1:19:52.280 --> 1:19:55.120 She's the job of getting nurse. 1:19:55.520 --> 1:19:59.320 I was gonna ask you, Rod, do you find the 1:19:59.400 --> 1:20:01.599 neck brace girl annoying or like, was you upset when 1:20:01.600 --> 1:20:02.160 she snitched? 1:20:04.280 --> 1:20:07.400 I mean not necessarily. I mean we don't know much 1:20:07.439 --> 1:20:09.360 about her, you know what I'm saying. And I think 1:20:09.400 --> 1:20:11.960 anything can go on those clubs. I actually like Angel. 1:20:11.960 --> 1:20:14.120 I feel like they got really angel to quick. 1:20:14.800 --> 1:20:17.599 But but no, I didn't. 1:20:17.439 --> 1:20:19.559 Have an issue with that. It wasn't annoying. I mean 1:20:19.640 --> 1:20:21.759 any like I said, anything can go on those clubs. 1:20:21.760 --> 1:20:24.840 Nobody trust, nobody like. So it's just I mean, we 1:20:25.320 --> 1:20:29.439 all saw down in the valley, the Valley. 1:20:29.840 --> 1:20:32.120 We know how these things can go. 1:20:32.320 --> 1:20:35.559 They're coming back this year, right, I don't know at 1:20:35.560 --> 1:20:37.960 this point they all moved on to different things. 1:20:38.040 --> 1:20:40.040 Really. I think that's what I thought I saw. They 1:20:40.040 --> 1:20:42.040 were supposed to be coming out Thirst supposed to come 1:20:42.040 --> 1:20:42.519 out this year. 1:20:43.280 --> 1:20:45.080 I didn't care about the second sear. 1:20:51.880 --> 1:20:55.479 But right going into that, well we do see what 1:20:55.640 --> 1:20:58.680 she told Big Eddie and like that kind of confrontation. 1:20:59.439 --> 1:21:01.400 What did you think about how that scene played out? 1:21:02.160 --> 1:21:04.320 Yeah, I talked about that earlier. I did like that. 1:21:04.479 --> 1:21:05.439 I like how. 1:21:08.120 --> 1:21:13.320 How Eddie Eddie's Yeah, yeah, Kaden, No, this. 1:21:13.120 --> 1:21:16.479 This part was really tense, really tense because we know 1:21:16.600 --> 1:21:19.080 what was really gonna happen, and I like when that's 1:21:19.120 --> 1:21:22.880 what I was saying earlier when the DA called, It's like, look, 1:21:23.280 --> 1:21:25.679 they were in there talking about you, so you need 1:21:25.720 --> 1:21:28.519 to go in there and make up something about her 1:21:29.240 --> 1:21:32.040 or whatever. So I did like how that whole thing 1:21:32.120 --> 1:21:35.559 was executed, in the back and forth between them and whatnot. 1:21:36.520 --> 1:21:39.400 So yeah, no, I really liked this and obviously what 1:21:39.479 --> 1:21:42.000 led up to it afterwards? 1:21:42.760 --> 1:21:47.080 What about your dame? What? What? 1:21:47.080 --> 1:21:49.120 What are you asking specifically. 1:21:49.800 --> 1:21:54.680 What afterwards like after being kind of looking like she 1:21:54.760 --> 1:21:57.040 got caught and she and the d like to ross 1:21:57.040 --> 1:21:59.360 point had to call her in like to phone a friend, 1:22:00.320 --> 1:22:03.439 how things escalate afterwards was probably like one of the 1:22:03.479 --> 1:22:04.919 other highlights of this episode. 1:22:04.920 --> 1:22:08.200 Correct, Yeah, it was I think that. 1:22:08.439 --> 1:22:13.080 So, yes, there was some tension when with is Rue 1:22:13.120 --> 1:22:13.840 gonna get caught? 1:22:13.960 --> 1:22:14.479 Is room not? 1:22:14.680 --> 1:22:17.120 But that's part of what I think it's gonna annoy 1:22:17.200 --> 1:22:19.519 me about this whole snitch story, like we're gonna keep 1:22:19.560 --> 1:22:21.920 doing this cat and mouse and how long are we 1:22:22.000 --> 1:22:24.920 gonna be doing that? But I did like the like 1:22:25.520 --> 1:22:30.680 the whole the robbery aspects and did they take the 1:22:30.760 --> 1:22:35.120 Fannie pat because it's almost it seemed like essentially what 1:22:35.320 --> 1:22:38.519 Rue was concerned about got hit. It's like the twist 1:22:38.560 --> 1:22:41.320 of luck and it got handled for her and she 1:22:41.360 --> 1:22:44.719 doesn't have to worry about them giving out fake drugs 1:22:44.720 --> 1:22:47.599 and having that and having at a BCB figuring out 1:22:47.640 --> 1:22:50.200 like trying to figure out where the fake drugs came from. 1:22:50.439 --> 1:22:54.720 So it worked out in Ruth's favor, but also traumatized 1:22:54.720 --> 1:22:57.120 her in the in the intrum because she got blood 1:22:57.160 --> 1:22:59.439 all over her face and watch the boy get shot. 1:23:02.320 --> 1:23:04.439 Hey, Mike, he got shot right. 1:23:04.400 --> 1:23:10.320 Inst he got shot right in this stomach. Boy, he 1:23:10.439 --> 1:23:17.320 bleed out chocolate milk spread made this. 1:23:17.320 --> 1:23:23.760 Fit as it used to be. Boy, we all it'll 1:23:23.760 --> 1:23:26.160 happen to you too. Hey, Listen, this happened to be down. 1:23:26.200 --> 1:23:28.320 That's why that's why I'm laugh for that, because that's 1:23:28.360 --> 1:23:29.120 what happened to be. 1:23:30.960 --> 1:23:34.720 But uh, but no, I was like because Mike, uh 1:23:35.120 --> 1:23:38.360 earlier we see the we see Lori's funeral with the bird, 1:23:39.080 --> 1:23:41.640 and then the henchmen are like, what we're gonna do 1:23:41.720 --> 1:23:43.320 to retaliate? He was like, should we kill on me? 1:23:43.400 --> 1:23:46.240 He was like, that's not gonna hurt enough. And that's 1:23:46.280 --> 1:23:50.240 what you know when white people talking like that, especially 1:23:50.240 --> 1:23:51.600 if they Nazis or whatever. 1:23:51.520 --> 1:23:52.200 It's rapping. 1:23:52.720 --> 1:23:55.880 So were you surprised that they went in the way 1:23:55.880 --> 1:23:57.200 they did because I thought there was gonna take out 1:23:57.200 --> 1:23:58.960 the bouncer first and just have a massacre. 1:23:59.880 --> 1:24:03.479 I really liked this scene, but at the same time, 1:24:04.600 --> 1:24:07.000 some of the logistics were annoying me a little bit. 1:24:07.080 --> 1:24:10.479 But it wasn't a huge deal. But I mean, I've 1:24:10.520 --> 1:24:13.680 heard gunshots before. You're gonna hear that over music. I 1:24:13.680 --> 1:24:16.720 don't care how loud the music is. But was I 1:24:16.800 --> 1:24:19.120 surprised that they went in there like that? Absolutely not. 1:24:19.200 --> 1:24:22.559 They're fucking racist, crazy ass rednecks. That's exactly what they 1:24:22.560 --> 1:24:28.400 would do. I was, If anything, I don't think Laurie 1:24:29.080 --> 1:24:31.840 had anything to do with this, really, not at all, 1:24:32.040 --> 1:24:34.040 Just like I didn't think Laurie had anything to do 1:24:34.080 --> 1:24:36.200 with the drugs being fucked up. I think this is 1:24:36.280 --> 1:24:40.320 all her dumb ass people they're just goofy, fucking stupid 1:24:40.320 --> 1:24:43.200 ass rednecks. So I think that they just did this 1:24:43.240 --> 1:24:45.320 shit on their own, because this wasn't even a good plan. 1:24:46.120 --> 1:24:49.559 Like really, at any moment they should have got busted. 1:24:49.640 --> 1:24:52.360 All anyone had to do was turn around and look, 1:24:52.520 --> 1:24:54.719 and they would have got busted. They just got lucky. 1:24:55.640 --> 1:24:58.040 Laurie's not this stupid, no matter how much y'all don't 1:24:58.120 --> 1:25:00.559 like her. Laurie's not this dumb. 1:25:00.880 --> 1:25:05.400 So yeah, when you say busted, way you mean, well, they. 1:25:05.320 --> 1:25:07.879 Showed a part where the women were dancing on stage 1:25:08.360 --> 1:25:11.120 and their office is right there with the with the 1:25:11.160 --> 1:25:14.599 with the the sea through window or whatever. I think 1:25:14.600 --> 1:25:15.960 that was my annoyance with it. 1:25:16.680 --> 1:25:19.160 So he didn't have a lot of security because even 1:25:19.160 --> 1:25:21.080 if they had turned around, the girls was just gonna run. 1:25:21.240 --> 1:25:23.679 Like I was looking for the other men with guns 1:25:23.720 --> 1:25:25.640 on his side, like where was everybody at? It was 1:25:25.680 --> 1:25:28.720 one dude at the door and Kadem Harrison Like that 1:25:28.880 --> 1:25:31.400 was it. And I understand, it's a club way out 1:25:31.439 --> 1:25:33.720 in the middle of nowhere in LA usually don't expect this, 1:25:33.760 --> 1:25:35.719 but you still want to protect your product. I feel 1:25:35.720 --> 1:25:37.439 like and it would have it should have been more 1:25:37.479 --> 1:25:40.040 than one security guard. I thought there, Uh, that was 1:25:40.040 --> 1:25:41.639 the thing that bother me about it. But I agree 1:25:41.640 --> 1:25:43.320 with Mike in the sense, I don't think lord shit 1:25:43.400 --> 1:25:45.800 about this. It's just Jay redneck ass is going out 1:25:45.840 --> 1:25:48.680 here and do this, especially she not signing off on 1:25:48.720 --> 1:25:49.200 the plane if. 1:25:49.120 --> 1:25:50.200 You got lips driving. 1:25:51.160 --> 1:25:51.680 So I know what. 1:25:52.439 --> 1:25:52.920 I know that. 1:26:00.200 --> 1:26:02.200 They can see inside the office. I know they can 1:26:02.240 --> 1:26:06.280 see out. Maybe they can see inside. Before they could 1:26:06.280 --> 1:26:06.519 see it. 1:26:06.680 --> 1:26:09.400 Even if they could, what were they gonna do? Scream 1:26:09.720 --> 1:26:12.799 at least? And if they screamed, then you got Marshall 1:26:12.960 --> 1:26:16.640 Lynch and you got Yeah, at least I thought they 1:26:16.640 --> 1:26:18.559 weren't there because they was Collin trying to get information. 1:26:19.880 --> 1:26:22.160 I don't know, I mean, anyway it goes. I just 1:26:22.200 --> 1:26:26.719 thought this was a stupid ass plan. But I think arrogant. 1:26:27.800 --> 1:26:28.559 Oh what'd you say? 1:26:29.000 --> 1:26:31.360 I would believe that they would have a stupid ass plan. Yeah, 1:26:31.360 --> 1:26:32.840 I'm just surprised that it worked. 1:26:33.479 --> 1:26:39.920 Yes, it only wants because Alamo's arrogant and doesn't have security. 1:26:38.479 --> 1:26:41.639 They can To Rise's point, were you surprised only Kadeen 1:26:41.760 --> 1:26:42.280 got shot? 1:26:45.920 --> 1:26:46.280 I was. 1:26:46.320 --> 1:26:49.400 I thought he was gonna shoot the dispandish it, you know, 1:26:50.920 --> 1:26:53.720 instead of instead of ru like they tend to do 1:26:53.760 --> 1:26:56.000 in the movies, you know, and Joe's you know, make 1:26:56.080 --> 1:26:59.400 us think the main characters in trouble shoot somebody else. 1:26:59.520 --> 1:27:02.960 But yeah, I think they realized that he really didn't 1:27:02.960 --> 1:27:05.840 give a funk about them, so they just went with 1:27:06.040 --> 1:27:08.639 shooting him and trying to hurt him as as much 1:27:08.640 --> 1:27:10.880 as possible in the way that he'll still be able 1:27:10.880 --> 1:27:14.960 to tell. But yeah, but their fight was hilarious because 1:27:15.160 --> 1:27:17.800 she was like, I can't understand the ship she's saying. 1:27:21.040 --> 1:27:27.320 But I heard Rappa and I heard pooka ship. But yeah, 1:27:27.800 --> 1:27:32.880 I was. I was, but is he gonna live? 1:27:33.120 --> 1:27:36.200 That's the question, because that's that's a gut shot, bro, 1:27:36.360 --> 1:27:41.840 And and. 1:27:39.600 --> 1:27:40.360 He got a lot of. 1:27:42.600 --> 1:27:44.120 She was squeezing it like it was. 1:27:44.200 --> 1:27:46.720 I was like, she couldn't find the whole nick she 1:27:46.720 --> 1:27:48.559 couldn't talk it was a bullet hole. Or his belly 1:27:48.560 --> 1:28:02.960 button is soft. 1:28:03.200 --> 1:28:07.639 That's a bag of be Co bean the sixty. 1:28:07.760 --> 1:28:18.559 So no, y'all don't like. 1:28:17.600 --> 1:28:19.640 That is crazy? 1:28:20.040 --> 1:28:27.720 Where did you get that from? I'm trying to eat. 1:28:30.680 --> 1:28:31.679 I'm trying to eat healthy. 1:28:32.200 --> 1:28:40.559 I need I'll eat it moregies lately. But hey, listen, 1:28:40.600 --> 1:28:41.839 you could have been a good sauce. 1:28:45.800 --> 1:28:48.559 Listen, I'm trying to tell you, but it was like 1:28:48.960 --> 1:28:53.639 I think he branded granted that they didn't kill him off, 1:28:53.640 --> 1:28:55.840 like he didn't do that pass out death kind of thing. 1:28:55.920 --> 1:28:58.400 Like I was, you know, if the police or if 1:28:58.439 --> 1:29:00.479 the ambulance got here, maybe thirty minutes earlier, I could 1:29:00.479 --> 1:29:01.040 have survived. 1:29:01.400 --> 1:29:03.519 But I do think he ain't gonna survive next y. 1:29:03.600 --> 1:29:06.080 Yeah, I'm gonna kill him. 1:29:05.520 --> 1:29:08.760 Really because he got the ships throw Yeah. 1:29:10.120 --> 1:29:12.120 I feel like yeah, yeah, I feel like it was 1:29:12.240 --> 1:29:14.360 up for a contract in the sense of if anybody 1:29:14.360 --> 1:29:16.519 get in this safe, you not so like. 1:29:16.640 --> 1:29:19.560 Yeah, he gonna kill him. 1:29:18.840 --> 1:29:21.280 Yeah, my favorite. I don't know why, like when they 1:29:21.280 --> 1:29:22.839 were like kiss my white ass. 1:29:23.280 --> 1:29:28.840 Yeah, I didn't even think about it like that because 1:29:28.880 --> 1:29:32.360 I'm thinking and correct me if I'm wrong, Like Alimo 1:29:32.360 --> 1:29:34.720 will be just more upset and focus on getting back 1:29:34.720 --> 1:29:37.559 at LORI, not necessarily hurting like killing his guy for 1:29:37.560 --> 1:29:39.519 getting robbed, because I think that's the reason why I 1:29:39.520 --> 1:29:41.920 didn't have so much guards for security, because. 1:29:41.760 --> 1:29:43.880 It's like, who's gonna really rob us? Right? 1:29:44.360 --> 1:29:46.840 But your job, your job is making sure that this 1:29:46.880 --> 1:29:50.200 ship stay safe, and you let somebody in the safe 1:29:50.280 --> 1:29:52.200 like you gotta go, I have no use for you, 1:29:52.280 --> 1:29:52.840 and you hurt. 1:29:55.640 --> 1:29:59.880 I could see that it don't matter, like I think 1:30:00.040 --> 1:30:03.080 bikes onto something like, if your job is to protect 1:30:03.080 --> 1:30:06.840 that safe and you let this happen, then what do 1:30:06.960 --> 1:30:09.640 I have you for it? I don't think Alamo has friends, 1:30:10.640 --> 1:30:12.439 so I definitely think he would kill. 1:30:12.360 --> 1:30:16.200 Him or just let him die, or just let him. 1:30:16.120 --> 1:30:19.400 Die, she alluded to, because she was like, you know, 1:30:19.400 --> 1:30:21.200 if you don't look like he'll be all. 1:30:21.160 --> 1:30:22.960 Right, they don't. 1:30:27.880 --> 1:30:28.599 These questions. 1:30:29.360 --> 1:30:32.240 I was more surprised by Ruth's response. 1:30:32.240 --> 1:30:37.320 Yeah, because yeah, go ahead, go ahead, Mike, I was 1:30:37.360 --> 1:30:38.120 gonna bring it up. 1:30:38.479 --> 1:30:42.200 Yeah, like you you can't like this dude was gonna 1:30:42.200 --> 1:30:45.280 shoot me in the head. So I don't think I 1:30:45.280 --> 1:30:47.240 would give a fuck that you got shot in the stomach. 1:30:47.800 --> 1:30:52.560 And I certainly wouldn't sell out my friend or I 1:30:52.560 --> 1:30:55.479 don't know if you call him friends or whatever. Yeah, 1:30:55.479 --> 1:30:58.080 I wouldn't sell out Fay for this dude that was 1:30:58.080 --> 1:31:01.599 gonna let me get shot in the head. Not So 1:31:01.640 --> 1:31:05.040 I was more surprised by that because of the countdown, right, right, 1:31:05.160 --> 1:31:07.599 that's what you're aboutright, Because he counted down like five four, 1:31:09.439 --> 1:31:13.559 and Dwayne Wade was like, go ahead, he put his 1:31:13.640 --> 1:31:15.400 glasses down. 1:31:16.520 --> 1:31:19.559 You think that do think this is going to get 1:31:19.640 --> 1:31:22.080 them to Laurie, which is why she told them lips. 1:31:23.280 --> 1:31:25.439 I think that's the reason why she did that. Give 1:31:25.520 --> 1:31:28.680 you to Lourie the police. 1:31:29.320 --> 1:31:32.360 But that's still that's still putting Fae in a position 1:31:32.479 --> 1:31:36.760 because most people I don't care. 1:31:39.640 --> 1:31:42.200 At this point because they could have the same way 1:31:42.840 --> 1:31:47.680 he and could have, Like they drove the niggas to 1:31:47.760 --> 1:31:51.000 the spot to kill me. You knew what he was doing, right, 1:31:51.160 --> 1:31:54.679 So like, if I I don't have loyalty to nobody, 1:31:54.720 --> 1:31:56.799 I'm switching off everybody at this point. 1:31:58.360 --> 1:32:03.240 If you're gonna snitch, you're gonna snitchbody. 1:32:04.200 --> 1:32:07.160 I mean, we'll see, because I thought I did see. 1:32:07.640 --> 1:32:09.880 I couldn't tell if it was if it was happiness 1:32:09.880 --> 1:32:11.639 in her eyes, like oh wow, like you said, look 1:32:11.680 --> 1:32:14.080 how the things turn, like I could finally put all 1:32:14.080 --> 1:32:17.880 this shit back in Laurie's ballpark, or it was like damn, 1:32:17.880 --> 1:32:19.640 I don't want to say nothing about Faye, but she 1:32:19.880 --> 1:32:21.760 got some big ass lips. 1:32:23.280 --> 1:32:27.800 She don't bishop exactly because he was there. 1:32:28.000 --> 1:32:31.719 It gets hard back into Alamo's good graces in any 1:32:31.800 --> 1:32:33.720 concern that she might have had for him. 1:32:33.720 --> 1:32:35.040 Thinking that she's a snitch. 1:32:35.439 --> 1:32:38.360 She's kind of dispelled that now because she's given him faith. 1:32:39.040 --> 1:32:40.720 I don't even think she thought about it that deep, 1:32:40.760 --> 1:32:43.120 because it seemed like she said, oh, that's Fame real quick. 1:32:44.080 --> 1:32:46.639 It seemed like she didn't even hesitate. She's like, oh. 1:32:46.520 --> 1:32:50.320 That's fa Yeah, yeah, it's just funny, like everything else 1:32:50.400 --> 1:32:50.759 was blurry. 1:32:50.760 --> 1:32:51.840 It's up the lips. 1:32:52.360 --> 1:32:54.519 Man that should have been cracking up too. I was like, 1:32:55.439 --> 1:32:58.599 that could only be one person. Only one person got 1:32:58.600 --> 1:33:02.600 big ass fucking lips like that she was. 1:33:02.920 --> 1:33:05.920 She was hanging out the window right right. 1:33:07.360 --> 1:33:12.080 And having her as the get that's super Yeah, that's 1:33:12.080 --> 1:33:13.880 super crazy. That's either Faye. 1:33:15.800 --> 1:33:16.280 It's one of. 1:33:16.240 --> 1:33:20.360 The nobody not that basy. 1:33:20.680 --> 1:33:21.320 They are too. 1:33:21.840 --> 1:33:24.439 They are not that big. They just they just they 1:33:24.560 --> 1:33:25.120 just crossed. 1:33:25.160 --> 1:33:28.919 The only difference between him and Faye is Fay got chapstick. 1:33:29.000 --> 1:33:30.519 Or it might be chapstick. I don't know what's on 1:33:30.560 --> 1:33:33.080 her lips. Whatever she got, she need to give it 1:33:33.120 --> 1:33:58.280 to Randall stick from a chap We gotta come on, thoughts. 1:34:00.320 --> 1:34:15.719 I hope swollen swollen and nice and listening last dogs, Nick. 1:34:18.160 --> 1:34:20.920 I hope that this the snitch storyline for Rule gets 1:34:21.439 --> 1:34:23.920 like again, they're not bad because they're good actors. But 1:34:24.360 --> 1:34:26.360 I hope there's something interesting in there that we haven't 1:34:26.360 --> 1:34:29.639 seen a hundred times before. I hope that that happens. 1:34:29.800 --> 1:34:33.679 And I want to see that conversation since we talked 1:34:33.680 --> 1:34:36.080 about it. I want to see that conversation between Jewels 1:34:36.680 --> 1:34:39.720 and and let's friend and lex I want to see that. 1:34:41.200 --> 1:34:44.479 I don't care. I don't really care, so I don't 1:34:44.479 --> 1:34:47.160 really care about a conversation between Lexi and Jewels. 1:34:47.240 --> 1:34:48.760 I am curious to see. 1:34:48.640 --> 1:34:52.920 Maybe Jewels the way tools deals with the criticism and 1:34:52.960 --> 1:34:56.120 a rejection more so than her needing to iron out 1:34:56.160 --> 1:34:58.000 anything and seeing how if. 1:34:57.840 --> 1:34:59.599 This affects her artwork at all. 1:35:00.960 --> 1:35:03.800 But last thoughts is I hope, like Spike said, I think, 1:35:03.880 --> 1:35:09.120 I hope that this Snitched storyline is played out in 1:35:09.160 --> 1:35:12.760 a way that makes it continue to be entertaining. 1:35:14.280 --> 1:35:17.040 And I really want to see them do something with Nick. 1:35:17.120 --> 1:35:19.280 I think if I if I get something from the 1:35:19.400 --> 1:35:23.839 nickt storyline that makes me feel better than the show's okay, 1:35:24.000 --> 1:35:27.200 if they keep sending Nick down this road, I don't 1:35:27.200 --> 1:35:28.760 know if the rest of this is enough to make 1:35:28.760 --> 1:35:30.240 this shot good for me this season. 1:35:31.400 --> 1:35:36.200 Wait, who's Nick Nate, I'm sorry, Nick, Oh okay, got you. 1:35:37.640 --> 1:35:40.640 Yeah. The more we talked about it, the more I like, 1:35:40.720 --> 1:35:41.960 actually like the episode. 1:35:42.160 --> 1:35:44.920 Like I said, I was about to say the same 1:35:44.960 --> 1:35:47.000 exact thing, Ron Okay. 1:35:46.640 --> 1:35:49.760 Yeah, because like and I said this at the top 1:35:49.760 --> 1:35:50.160 of the show. 1:35:50.200 --> 1:35:52.639 I think because we talked about it so much last week, 1:35:52.680 --> 1:35:54.760 I was just annoy So I actually want to go 1:35:54.800 --> 1:35:56.759 back and watch the episode and see how I feel 1:35:56.840 --> 1:35:59.120 after we talked about it and see if it feels 1:35:59.120 --> 1:35:59.400 the same. 1:35:59.400 --> 1:36:01.080 And I feel like it gonna feel a little. 1:36:00.840 --> 1:36:03.320 Bit better than when I initially watched it because I 1:36:03.840 --> 1:36:06.120 was annoyed when they want to snitch route. But yeah, 1:36:06.200 --> 1:36:08.599 I think they're probably not even gonna stay on this 1:36:08.600 --> 1:36:10.599 this thing for very long, very much longer. 1:36:11.040 --> 1:36:13.120 They might do it maybe one more episode. 1:36:13.720 --> 1:36:16.040 And because it because it seemed like the trend is 1:36:16.040 --> 1:36:17.800 like and that's how it became this, and this is 1:36:17.840 --> 1:36:20.800 how it became this. So I think that's by the 1:36:20.960 --> 1:36:22.800 end of it, she's gonna be like, and that's how 1:36:22.840 --> 1:36:32.320 it became whatever, save how. 1:36:30.000 --> 1:36:31.360 The church and we're gonna get back. 1:36:31.280 --> 1:36:31.679 To the fact. 1:36:32.280 --> 1:36:33.320 That's what they're gonna do too. 1:36:33.840 --> 1:36:34.120 Yep. 1:36:34.320 --> 1:36:36.160 So they're gonna take her down this Road. I think 1:36:36.200 --> 1:36:41.479 they they're they're they're breaking down each character in their 1:36:41.520 --> 1:36:45.280 own way, like they breaking down Nate, they breaking down Rude, 1:36:45.280 --> 1:36:47.759 They're breaking down Cassie. They're breaking down all. 1:36:47.600 --> 1:36:51.440 Of these people just to do some sort of redemption 1:36:51.960 --> 1:36:54.040 or something towards the end. 1:36:54.160 --> 1:36:55.720 I don't know what it is, but that's what it 1:36:55.760 --> 1:36:56.320 seems like. 1:36:58.680 --> 1:37:00.479 What are you looking forward to next epis so Mike 1:37:02.000 --> 1:37:03.439 wrapping up your thoughts on this one too? 1:37:04.320 --> 1:37:06.439 Well, No, it's just funny that Rod said that. The 1:37:06.479 --> 1:37:08.920 more we've talked about this, the more I think I 1:37:08.960 --> 1:37:10.720 do like the episode. It's still not as good as 1:37:10.720 --> 1:37:14.600 the last one, Yeah, but I think I do like 1:37:14.640 --> 1:37:16.800 this episode, and I think that what they're setting up 1:37:16.920 --> 1:37:19.280 is interesting because, like I said, I don't mind the 1:37:19.320 --> 1:37:22.280 snitching thing because I think they're gonna make it interesting 1:37:22.360 --> 1:37:26.120 because ru is such a fucking idiot, Like she's as 1:37:26.200 --> 1:37:28.559 bad as Pooky when it comes to being a fucking snitch. 1:37:28.880 --> 1:37:31.440 So I think that this is gonna be very, very interesting. 1:37:33.600 --> 1:37:35.280 I don't know. I don't know what I'm looking forward 1:37:35.320 --> 1:37:37.880 to the next episode because I don't really know where 1:37:37.880 --> 1:37:39.439 they're going right now. I don't know if there's going 1:37:39.520 --> 1:37:41.320 to be an all out drug war, which I don't 1:37:41.320 --> 1:37:43.880 think I really want to see that on Euphoria. That 1:37:43.960 --> 1:37:48.759 seems a bit too crazy. But I'm somewhere in between 1:37:49.160 --> 1:37:51.400 Nay and Spike. As far as the Jewels thing, I 1:37:51.439 --> 1:37:53.920 do kind of want to see a little bit of 1:37:54.000 --> 1:37:56.639 her discussing this with Lexi, but I'm more with Nay 1:37:56.920 --> 1:37:59.400 with I want to see how she handles the rejection 1:38:00.200 --> 1:38:05.280 of finally breaking out and displaying my idea of a 1:38:05.320 --> 1:38:09.320 beautiful scene on a beach with trans people and SIST 1:38:09.360 --> 1:38:13.360 people together and then being told no. So I don't know, man, 1:38:14.000 --> 1:38:16.320 the season started off pretty bad, but I think it's 1:38:16.479 --> 1:38:23.160 it's actually started to get interesting. Hey what about your stups? 1:38:24.520 --> 1:38:27.280 Well, as I mentioned earlier, I'm concerned we have the 1:38:27.320 --> 1:38:31.120 halfway point and I would like to see and this 1:38:31.200 --> 1:38:34.280 is the last season, so what are we going to 1:38:34.320 --> 1:38:36.760 be left with when it's all said and done. How 1:38:36.760 --> 1:38:39.759 we're going to wrap this up, this old storyline and everything. 1:38:39.880 --> 1:38:42.599 So that that's where my mind was at after this 1:38:42.640 --> 1:38:45.479 the season, after this episode end there it's like, Okay, 1:38:45.520 --> 1:38:48.760 you got you added all this stuff, but I don't 1:38:48.760 --> 1:38:52.679 see where we're going with it. So yeah, I would 1:38:52.720 --> 1:38:56.840 like to see some sort of advancement and the next 1:38:56.880 --> 1:39:00.559 two episodes, so at least we'll walk away with like 1:39:00.960 --> 1:39:03.240 I don't know if we'll be completely happy with the 1:39:03.240 --> 1:39:04.840 way we were with the first two seasons, but at 1:39:04.920 --> 1:39:06.880 least we'll get a solid conclusion to the story. 1:39:08.000 --> 1:39:10.280 Go ahead, make sorry real quick, Nick. When I was 1:39:10.320 --> 1:39:13.320 when I was going back and rewatching bits and pieces 1:39:13.320 --> 1:39:19.280 to prove Spike wrong, did y'all notice when when Cassie 1:39:19.960 --> 1:39:22.040 and Maddie were getting in the car there were two 1:39:22.080 --> 1:39:25.880 little girls like you saw that, Spike. Yeah, I didn't 1:39:25.920 --> 1:39:32.160 notice that. I thought that was watching them, Yeah, watching 1:39:32.240 --> 1:39:34.519 them do this ship. So I think it was trying to, like, 1:39:35.200 --> 1:39:37.679 you know, get this idea of perpetuating like a cycle, 1:39:37.760 --> 1:39:40.040 like these little girls are seeing these women do this, 1:39:40.160 --> 1:39:41.800 so then they're going to end the same thing. 1:39:42.120 --> 1:39:44.320 I thought that was the time. I thought they were 1:39:44.400 --> 1:39:45.479 very subtle and very clever. 1:39:45.960 --> 1:39:46.360 Mm hmm. 1:39:46.800 --> 1:39:49.320 But yeah, anyway, sorry, Nick, go ahead, No, no, no, you're fine, 1:39:50.080 --> 1:39:51.880 I think because I've been listening to a lot of 1:39:51.920 --> 1:39:54.160 other reviews about this show, and they just really are 1:39:54.240 --> 1:39:57.840 shitting on it because what you said, it's not what it. 1:39:57.880 --> 1:40:02.479 Used to be. Like you say, y'all do cheating is cheating. 1:40:02.760 --> 1:40:05.599 I got listen. I do my own research loop. 1:40:07.600 --> 1:40:10.599 But all I'm saying is that what I what in 1:40:10.600 --> 1:40:12.280 comparison if you want me to see, let you know 1:40:12.360 --> 1:40:14.640 why I listen to them in comparison to us and 1:40:14.680 --> 1:40:17.840 seeing like if we're missing anything, But overall we talk 1:40:17.880 --> 1:40:20.280 about it in a way where we are still enjoying 1:40:20.320 --> 1:40:23.439 the episode. Like Rod and Mike just pivoted on their 1:40:23.479 --> 1:40:26.200 initial thoughts. Others I feel like I just hate watching 1:40:26.920 --> 1:40:29.840 like because it's just popular, we're just reviewing it, but 1:40:29.960 --> 1:40:32.080 outside of that, we're gonna bash it because this is 1:40:32.120 --> 1:40:32.679 what it ain't. 1:40:32.920 --> 1:40:35.040 This is what I don't understand. Why is this charactering this. 1:40:35.080 --> 1:40:37.680 I'm like, okay, we can do that every single episode, 1:40:37.960 --> 1:40:39.800 But to me, it's just like if I'm going to 1:40:39.880 --> 1:40:42.000 watch it, here's when I'm pulling from that I actually enjoy, 1:40:42.680 --> 1:40:42.960 you know. 1:40:44.040 --> 1:40:46.200 I understand that, Nick. I feel like a lot of 1:40:46.240 --> 1:40:49.559 that is rooted in the hate for the same yeah. 1:40:49.600 --> 1:40:51.519 Which is like if you ain't, then don't watch it. 1:40:51.520 --> 1:40:52.200 Then that's my thing. 1:40:52.200 --> 1:40:54.519 It's like, if you really hate this dude that much, 1:40:54.960 --> 1:40:57.960 why is covering it terrible TV? 1:40:58.160 --> 1:41:01.160 Like you like, I'm not watching this like Oh my god. 1:41:01.479 --> 1:41:03.200 I think a lot of it that I'm hearing because 1:41:03.200 --> 1:41:05.200 I'm a couple of podcasts that I listened to they 1:41:05.360 --> 1:41:07.559 cover it briefly, and a lot of it's. 1:41:07.400 --> 1:41:10.519 Just they just don't like to make the person makes it. 1:41:11.160 --> 1:41:14.879 Yeah, that's that's what bothers me as a listener. But overall, 1:41:14.880 --> 1:41:18.240 I'm I'm locked in. I think because I have hope 1:41:18.280 --> 1:41:19.920 that they will get to the ships because they got 1:41:19.920 --> 1:41:22.160 to the wedding pretty quickly in the season, and we 1:41:22.160 --> 1:41:23.840 thought that they were going to drag that out and 1:41:23.920 --> 1:41:27.040 Herb and Rue getting arrested in that same episode as like, okay, 1:41:27.080 --> 1:41:28.479 they're pushing things forward. 1:41:29.120 --> 1:41:32.800 So with Dwayne Way getting shot and Rue. 1:41:32.520 --> 1:41:35.759 Borderline getting caught as a snitch for the next episode 1:41:35.800 --> 1:41:36.320 and we might. 1:41:36.240 --> 1:41:38.120 Get a civil drug war. 1:41:38.840 --> 1:41:42.640 Like, I think that that's keeping me excited about the 1:41:42.640 --> 1:41:45.320 next two seasons or the next few episodes. I don't 1:41:45.320 --> 1:41:47.360 think this is the last season though, Ken. I think 1:41:47.520 --> 1:41:49.680 they's a contract. I think they got a contract for 1:41:49.760 --> 1:41:53.360 like another season. No, they got their legally contracted. They 1:41:53.360 --> 1:41:54.600 signed these contracts. 1:41:54.240 --> 1:41:56.800 Early, lou like they gotta do it. 1:41:56.800 --> 1:41:58.800 They're gonna have to bring on all new people, and 1:41:59.160 --> 1:42:01.599 I couldn't after Dune come out day. 1:42:01.640 --> 1:42:04.439 It's not even like looking this way, that's her fault, 1:42:04.600 --> 1:42:08.720 Like you said, she that's her agent. You locked in. 1:42:08.800 --> 1:42:13.120 You locked in because if Spider Man, if another Spider 1:42:13.160 --> 1:42:14.920 Man come out, she and that motherfucker too. 1:42:15.000 --> 1:42:18.920 She and Spider Man coming out, and she's she's in. 1:42:19.160 --> 1:42:21.439 She's in four major things, like she already had the 1:42:21.520 --> 1:42:24.040 Drama come out, which was start off the year hot. 1:42:24.400 --> 1:42:27.760 She's got Dune, Spider Man, and also, uh, there's one 1:42:27.760 --> 1:42:28.200 more thing. 1:42:30.120 --> 1:42:31.360 Fuck I forgot what it was. 1:42:31.960 --> 1:42:35.280 But she's like all the biggest She's like, she's in 1:42:35.360 --> 1:42:37.439 Odyssey as well, Like that's big. 1:42:37.479 --> 1:42:39.880 Those are the four biggest movies of the year. I 1:42:39.880 --> 1:42:42.559 think HBO is planning on it, but it's not gonna 1:42:42.560 --> 1:42:44.840 happen because the season is getting kitted on too hard. 1:42:46.120 --> 1:42:48.280 They go into here, they're gonna they're gonna have to 1:42:48.360 --> 1:42:51.160 because it's not hot the way it used. 1:42:51.040 --> 1:42:53.840 To be no more. 1:42:54.080 --> 1:42:56.120 But but you think that no one would still tune 1:42:56.160 --> 1:42:59.479 in If you're saying Zendia, Jacob whatever his name is, 1:42:59.520 --> 1:43:02.040 sidneys are all starting in the show that. 1:43:02.040 --> 1:43:03.960 We all used to love. You already got people that's 1:43:04.000 --> 1:43:06.400 tuning out. You got people that ain't watching it this season. 1:43:07.280 --> 1:43:11.000 Is that already gave are the viewers? Is that viewership dropping? 1:43:11.680 --> 1:43:14.080 It's it's the same thing that we talked about yesterday. 1:43:14.160 --> 1:43:15.760 When they take so long to get back to it, 1:43:15.800 --> 1:43:17.200 people just be like, man, fuck it. 1:43:17.280 --> 1:43:20.080 Like it's going down the first time. It's not as popular. 1:43:20.600 --> 1:43:23.479 It's not as popular, I don't think as it was 1:43:23.560 --> 1:43:25.560 when it was first out. 1:43:25.720 --> 1:43:29.080 If people hate watching it, as long as they got 1:43:29.160 --> 1:43:31.679 those viewership numbers, they'll they'll bring this ship back. 1:43:31.960 --> 1:43:32.280 I think. 1:43:32.560 --> 1:43:36.200 I think like it's the viewership is. 1:43:36.240 --> 1:43:41.400 Up record breaking start season three debuts or fast season 1:43:41.400 --> 1:43:42.880 too by forty four. 1:43:44.840 --> 1:43:48.080 Oh, if it's up fifty percent, I can see that. 1:43:48.600 --> 1:43:50.640 I think Spike, you have a point that it's going 1:43:50.720 --> 1:43:53.000 to be more an issue of bringing back the actors 1:43:53.200 --> 1:43:55.880 because Zinday it's not gonna want to do this shit again. 1:43:55.960 --> 1:43:57.800 I think Nate's not gonna want to do this shit again. 1:43:58.479 --> 1:44:00.880 Cidy Sweeny will do it until she's eighty because she 1:44:00.920 --> 1:44:04.120 ain't got shit else happening. But the rest of them, 1:44:04.520 --> 1:44:06.040 I don't think they want to come back for this. 1:44:08.439 --> 1:44:10.439 I feel like they need to get They would need 1:44:10.479 --> 1:44:12.920 to get rid of Levinson in order to make this work, 1:44:13.560 --> 1:44:14.160 and I don't. 1:44:13.960 --> 1:44:15.880 Know how that's. 1:44:17.360 --> 1:44:21.720 Direct. Oh Nat die, I agree with you. Spike, Yeah, 1:44:22.000 --> 1:44:22.360 I think. 1:44:22.240 --> 1:44:22.920 They gonna die. 1:44:23.560 --> 1:44:26.320 Mhm, yes, thank you. We'll see. 1:44:26.880 --> 1:44:27.120 Well. 1:44:27.400 --> 1:44:29.720 Those are our thoughts on this episode. Please let us 1:44:29.720 --> 1:44:32.519 know what you guys think. FPS podcast is our Reddit thread. 1:44:32.520 --> 1:44:35.240 That's also our handle for I G and Twitter, and 1:44:35.280 --> 1:44:36.360 we'll catch you next week. 1:44:36.720 --> 1:44:37.559 Be out peace,