Speaker 1: The Frames per Second podcast, What's going on in ship Boy?
Speaker 2: Nick, I'm here with the right How y'all doing?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: I am Spike Lou of the on Deck TV show
Speaker 2: How you doing?
Speaker 4: Man? What up?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 4: Pretty good? And Mike c town Yo and Ken Spying
Speaker 4: hold off and you now.
Speaker 5: Tune in into another episode of Frans per Second Podcast.
Speaker 5: And in this episode, we are continuing on with our
Speaker 5: weekly recaps of the hit HBO original series starring Z
Speaker 5: and Dea titled Euphoria. This recap will be dedicated episode four,
Speaker 5: going off of what I was mistakenly saying last recap
Speaker 5: that y'all was clowning me for Kitty likes to dance.
Speaker 2: So we finally got to that one. I wasn't just
Speaker 2: fooling out of my ask.
Speaker 5: But yeah, we are four episodes, iny, What did you say?
Speaker 4: Was it? Is it eight episodes the season or nine?
Speaker 6: I didn't say nothing, because I have no idea. I
Speaker 6: think it is something around.
Speaker 4: That it's short though.
Speaker 5: It's not like we may be halfway through the season
Speaker 5: at this point, I believe, or at least one episode. Hey, okay,
Speaker 5: so then yeah, we are halfway through the season already.
Speaker 5: So that's crazy how time is going. But but yeah,
Speaker 5: I want to get us overall thoughts on this episode
Speaker 5: because I think it will be a very interesting conversation.
Speaker 5: But I want to start off with Mike because we
Speaker 5: weren't able to get your thoughts on episode three, So
Speaker 5: catch us up to did you enjoy last episode and
Speaker 5: how you feel about this one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought last episode was the best episode of
Speaker 4: the season so far. I really liked last episode, especially
Speaker 4: when they were whooping dates ass and they cut they
Speaker 4: cut off his pinky toe. I liked it. This new one,
Speaker 4: it was It was a pretty big step down. It
Speaker 4: was fine. It wasn't a bad episode. It was nowhere
Speaker 4: near as good as last week, though, and it's mainly
Speaker 4: due to the fact that I don't care about Cassie's
Speaker 4: story and I don't I don't like this Nate. They
Speaker 4: should have just got a different actor and just acted
Speaker 4: like this was like a multiverse or some shit, because
Speaker 4: this Nate sucks. So yeah, this this episode wasn't was
Speaker 4: It wasn't bad, It wasn't trash or anything. It just
Speaker 4: it just wasn't great.
Speaker 7: I saw people wanting to know what you thought about
Speaker 7: the faz thing because I think you were the one
Speaker 7: that was adamant that you didn't want to see Fez
Speaker 7: talking on the phone or something like that. You remember that,
Speaker 7: remember saying that in one of the one of the
Speaker 7: last episodes.
Speaker 4: I don't remember saying that, but I do believe you
Speaker 4: that I said that, And if I said that, I
Speaker 4: take it back. I thought what they did with with
Speaker 4: rud talking on the phone to him was super respectful.
Speaker 4: And I didn't know this until a friend of mine
Speaker 4: told me, But that was like something he Whatever she
Speaker 4: said to him was something that he always says on
Speaker 4: his Instagram posts. Fuck I forget what it like one
Speaker 4: love or some you know, some old school ass rap phrase.
Speaker 4: Fans would always put that in his Instagram post. So
Speaker 4: she said that to him on the phone, So I thought.
Speaker 4: I thought it was good. I liked it. So what
Speaker 4: about your thoughts, lou can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Always muted.
Speaker 8: It was a significant step down from last week. I
Speaker 8: don't I didn't like a lot of this. I didn't
Speaker 8: like Jewels part. I didn't care about Cashie's part. I
Speaker 8: did not want to see Ruby a snitch. I know
Speaker 8: we had a long conversation about that here last week.
Speaker 8: And they took it exactly where I didn't want them
Speaker 8: to go because I feel like that's so played out,
Speaker 8: like all the normal tropes that you hit with somebody
Speaker 8: wearing a wire, they hit him, uh, the boss suspected
Speaker 8: them like it was just so cliche.
Speaker 4: I didn't like any of that.
Speaker 8: So the episode in itself isn't bad, but it don't
Speaker 8: live up to last week, and I don't like where
Speaker 8: it's going as far as a plot.
Speaker 5: All Right, Rod and A, I'm I'm solidity, y'all gonna
Speaker 5: start with nay and then Rob, you go ahead and
Speaker 5: follow up.
Speaker 6: So y'all know, I was underwhelmed with last episode and
Speaker 6: I was slightly underwhelmed with this one.
Speaker 9: I agree it was even with me being underwhelmed, this
Speaker 9: was a step down. I like, I don't really want
Speaker 9: to see Wu as a switch.
Speaker 6: I understand in the story how we got here, sure,
Speaker 6: does it make sense?
Speaker 3: Sure, but the.
Speaker 6: Tension and yeah, the cliche tension of do they know?
Speaker 4: Do they not know?
Speaker 6: While I don't like it if honestly the only thing
Speaker 6: that really kept my attention this episode, because you've grown
Speaker 6: such an affinity for Rude that you don't want to
Speaker 6: see anything happen to her, so but it still feels like.
Speaker 3: Very dumb.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that was a bit of a disappointment. But
Speaker 6: I did like the comparison they did of sex.
Speaker 3: Work in this episode.
Speaker 6: I thought that was interesting, and even though it was short,
Speaker 6: I actually liked the conversation that Jules's artwork brought up.
Speaker 3: So there were things.
Speaker 6: About it that I liked, but it wasn't enough to
Speaker 6: make me like the episode.
Speaker 7: That's a really good breakdown because I share saying symphonis
Speaker 7: to a certain degree. Yeah, just like I don't know
Speaker 7: if it was because we talked about it so heavily
Speaker 7: last week is why I was annoying or if I'm
Speaker 7: actually annoyed by it, because I think it does work
Speaker 7: in the story and it was intriguing in person.
Speaker 3: It did bring some sort of No, it did bring attention. Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Did I do like the fact like how how they were.
Speaker 7: Using the wire to help her out of the jam,
Speaker 7: so uh so, yeah, I did. I did like that part.
Speaker 7: But no, I mean I thought it was I thought
Speaker 7: it's definitely a step down, for sure. I kind of
Speaker 7: anticipated it being a step down, honestly, because I felt
Speaker 7: like last week was really good.
Speaker 4: What about you, Kim.
Speaker 10: Overall, I liked it, you know, I think, if anything,
Speaker 10: I am somewhat concerned. We're halfway through and I don't
Speaker 10: know what we're doing here. But there were definitely like moments,
Speaker 10: you know, throughout the episode that I was talking to
Speaker 10: the TV and just trying to make sense of what
Speaker 10: was going on.
Speaker 1: But overall it didn't bother me as as much as
Speaker 1: the rest of y'all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with mostly everyone as far as like
Speaker 5: this wasn't a great episode or it definitely didn't live
Speaker 5: up to I guess how interesting and somewhat exciting last
Speaker 5: episode was, because if I.
Speaker 2: Remove the Rude Alamo.
Speaker 5: Lori situation from this episode, it's so it's almost a
Speaker 5: nothing burger for me personally. I do find Lexi's storyline
Speaker 5: a little bit interesting just because of she's in she's
Speaker 5: kind of like entry level in the industry, and you know,
Speaker 5: she's seeing like the dudes and don'ts of it and
Speaker 5: then always also the Jewels aspect.
Speaker 4: I want to see how that plays out.
Speaker 5: But mostly I only was like, Wow, I'm really only
Speaker 5: invested in this series to see what's the fuck gonna
Speaker 5: happen with Rude. Granted, I know she's in there, she's
Speaker 5: the star of the show. But I felt like beforehand
Speaker 5: it was a little bit more balanced. You can kind
Speaker 5: of bounce around and be like, Okay, I'm fine with
Speaker 5: being with this focus or this storyline before we get
Speaker 5: back to the main thing. But it was so it
Speaker 5: was it was all right episode. It wasn't even super high.
Speaker 5: It was just all right. But going into this episode,
Speaker 5: I want to I want to save the Rue Alamo
Speaker 5: stuff for the later a little bit later, just because
Speaker 5: I think that's the biggest piece that we'll have a
Speaker 5: big discussion that. So I just want to get through
Speaker 5: the bullshit first.
Speaker 4: Even though the.
Speaker 5: Episode starts off with us seeing Rue, you know, get
Speaker 5: arrested in the backseat of a car or a da car,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna start with Nate and Cassie because we slide
Speaker 5: back to their scene or their uh perspective. I think
Speaker 5: like the day after or a few maybe a week
Speaker 5: after that incident that happened in the last episode, and
Speaker 5: Nate is like, to your point, Nay, Mike, he is different.
Speaker 2: I thought I would see a switch by now. Again,
Speaker 2: we're halfway.
Speaker 5: Through it, but he is just a normal guy. He's
Speaker 5: just bad with his money. That's just how he's being
Speaker 5: portrayed as opposed he was previously. But we see that
Speaker 5: he's trying to put a positive spin on the whole situation.
Speaker 5: But what did y'all think about I'll start with you, Mike,
Speaker 5: what did you think about his conversation with Cassie as
Speaker 5: far as in that living room scene when he was
Speaker 5: just talking about his toe and how it represents optimism and.
Speaker 4: Shit, I want to turn this bullshit off. I straight up,
Speaker 4: I was just like, what the fuck is this? Who
Speaker 4: is this guy? Why is he fucking telling poems and shit?
Speaker 4: This isn't Nate. This that corny ass dude that was
Speaker 4: playing the guitar singing that bullshit ass song to fucking Root.
Speaker 4: I can't remember that dude's name, but they didn't bring
Speaker 4: his bitch ass back the blind Yeah, the fucking guy
Speaker 4: with a little tattoo on his face that you find
Speaker 4: what you need, that dude, Like, I don't understand why
Speaker 4: they're doing this. Like I understand you you grow and
Speaker 4: you change a lot five years out of high school,
Speaker 4: but you don't become a completely different person. So to
Speaker 4: go from like this menacing Nate to this I'm relating
Speaker 4: our relationship to my pinky toe, Like, get the fuck
Speaker 4: out of here, man, You agree? Hell yeah, I agree.
Speaker 6: And I understand that they're trying to make like he's
Speaker 6: obviously trying to be this person. He's trying to be
Speaker 6: a better man than his father was. My god on today.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I kind of like it actually, And the reason I
Speaker 7: like it, I mean because you see, we've seen stories
Speaker 7: of like bullies that that come back and you know, yeah, no,
Speaker 7: you know that was just me in high school. You know,
Speaker 7: I'm sorry. I like, like, I feel like that's what
Speaker 7: we're seeing now with Nick. I feel like he was
Speaker 7: that that guy, that that jock guy in high school
Speaker 7: that that knew he was at some point, and now
Speaker 7: he's trying to right his wrongs. I do kind of
Speaker 7: I mean the way he because he is different. I
Speaker 7: agree with y'all, like that's the only that's the only
Speaker 7: way I can justify. The way I can justify it
Speaker 7: is that that he's representing that high school kid that
Speaker 7: comes out of high school and it's like kind of
Speaker 7: turning the new league.
Speaker 6: But I don't feel like it's authentic. That's the difference.
Speaker 6: Like I don't feel like since here, it's just I
Speaker 6: don't even think he's trying to be a better person.
Speaker 6: He's just trying to show that he can be better
Speaker 6: than his who his father was, and he can't rhythm.
Speaker 6: That's why he's how he's struggling. So I feel like
Speaker 6: they're gonna have this Nate blow up, like when he
Speaker 6: said he had that melt down in the court and
Speaker 6: he's like, I'm trying to be good, and it's like, okay, cool.
Speaker 6: I just don't know if that blowoff blow up is
Speaker 6: gonna pay off for all the change that they don't want.
Speaker 6: It just seems so inauthentic. It's writing just seems so clumsy.
Speaker 6: It's like, it's just not it's not us.
Speaker 3: I don't know how we got here, and then I'm
Speaker 3: showing us how we got here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and by the time we get here, I don't
Speaker 6: think I'm gonna care no more.
Speaker 4: I feel like, let me know if I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: Between Nay and Mike's point, I feel like the things
Speaker 5: that made him interesting as a character have been stripped
Speaker 5: away from him and replaced with something that's like, it's
Speaker 5: not even comparable to the to the previous iteration that
Speaker 5: we had and what we are getting is just something
Speaker 5: that's kind of like hollow and lackluster.
Speaker 4: So it's just like, all.
Speaker 5: Right, and he was one of the most compelling characters,
Speaker 5: like of the series, which is why you know he
Speaker 5: became a big actor.
Speaker 4: You know, I agree with you one hundred percent, Nick,
Speaker 4: I think the I do understand Rod's point, and I
Speaker 4: do want to give it that grace. But the writing
Speaker 4: just feels bad for Nate. And that's that's my issue
Speaker 4: because nobody else has changed drastically except for Nate. So
Speaker 4: it doesn't feel like this is what Sam Levinson was
Speaker 4: going for. It sounds like, you know what, I can't
Speaker 4: even speculate. I don't know what the fuck it sounds
Speaker 4: like it. It's just bad writing. It doesn't really make
Speaker 4: any sense. And the think about it is, if you
Speaker 4: want to do this, what season one and season two
Speaker 4: did so well was they would go back and tell
Speaker 4: the stories and the reasons why characters acted a certain way.
Speaker 4: You got to give us some kind of flashbacks or
Speaker 4: something to explain why Nate had fucking turned into a
Speaker 4: beat poet. Like it just doesn't it doesn't work. It
Speaker 4: doesn't work for Nate. Lude what was your thoughts on Nate.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not only in this scene, but kind of going
Speaker 5: into this episode as well.
Speaker 4: I think that Nate, how Nate's being written leads.
Speaker 8: To the spirit conspiracy theory that they talk about with
Speaker 8: Sam Levison as to where he stole these stories from
Speaker 8: people he went to high school with, and it was
Speaker 8: interesting and uniquely interesting because he had those stories from
Speaker 8: those people. Now that you're five years removed from that,
Speaker 8: he's just writing from a TV perspective. There's no like,
Speaker 8: there's no like, nothing genuine about it. It just seems like, oh,
Speaker 8: these are normal tropes. And I think that leads into
Speaker 8: where we looking at Nate now like they want.
Speaker 4: Us to feel sorry for him. I agree with Rod
Speaker 4: in the.
Speaker 8: Sense of the high school used to be jock, everybody
Speaker 8: liked him, all the girls liked him, and then you
Speaker 8: look at him a couple of years later, you run
Speaker 8: into him.
Speaker 11: It's like, damn homeie high school. He was a man home.
Speaker 4: We all know that.
Speaker 8: Story, but it's just not interesting, Like we don't care,
Speaker 8: we don't feel sorry for Nate, like they was saying,
Speaker 8: like how did he get here? Like, yeah, you're not
Speaker 8: trying to be like your dad, but you sobbing on
Speaker 8: the floor in a council meeting big In or some
Speaker 8: random other white man, Like, what are we doing?
Speaker 3: It's just hard?
Speaker 8: Yeah, And dude was like so unemotional to like like
Speaker 8: he ain't getting no winds and that's that's just strange
Speaker 8: when you're watching this show from what we're used to
Speaker 8: and it don't work.
Speaker 4: I don't like the character no more.
Speaker 8: And I pay even more attention to it, Mike, after
Speaker 8: you said it last week, and it just stay leaned
Speaker 8: right into it.
Speaker 11: It's like that's not the same character no more.
Speaker 7: I guess with me, like it seems so intentional that
Speaker 7: it has to be some sort of payoffs to it.
Speaker 3: It's the thing, dude, who.
Speaker 4: Did the ile right right, he has deserved your faith.
Speaker 5: Roder speaking of day Bro where he was at the
Speaker 5: California Council media, he was like, Bill, is this this person?
Speaker 5: Hands and knees like he was like, Bro, this saint
Speaker 5: the day I know it and security.
Speaker 4: Somebody can get this dude.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think now he should be broken. And if
Speaker 10: this don't do it, then I don't know what what
Speaker 10: will He OWDs a million dollars.
Speaker 1: Cassie is left.
Speaker 10: And he just completely embarrassed himself in this meeting in
Speaker 10: front of.
Speaker 1: All these people over a flower.
Speaker 10: He has no other options, he has no money. The
Speaker 10: only thing left is for Nate to die if Cassie
Speaker 10: doesn't bail him out with his only fan ship. But
Speaker 10: at this point it's a rap for him. So he
Speaker 10: has to moving forward, break this. This has to be it.
Speaker 10: This is his last. Yeah, I think he's broken though.
Speaker 10: Nate grew up. Nate grew up, and he tried to
Speaker 10: do things a certain way and for all, for all
Speaker 10: intents and purposes, up to this point, it has not worked.
Speaker 10: And he's probably just gonna go back to the one
Speaker 10: thing that he knows.
Speaker 1: If that's what they're doing.
Speaker 10: I don't know what they're doing with Nate, But.
Speaker 4: What's the one thing he knows?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 10: Just anger, emotional outburst rage, the things that you guys
Speaker 10: are saying that are missing, that you guys are missing
Speaker 10: from Nate.
Speaker 8: Million dollars though I know it's point like even if
Speaker 8: he do go there now, like, so what you still
Speaker 8: owe a million dollars?
Speaker 1: So yeah, I know.
Speaker 10: But but those those sort of outbursts that he did
Speaker 10: in the past, they've always had negative consequences for him anyway.
Speaker 10: This one will lead to probably the ultimate consequence if
Speaker 10: that's where they go. But I don't know how the
Speaker 10: hell you're gonna get a million dollars and where you're
Speaker 10: gonna get it from, because that ship compiling interest every
Speaker 10: damn day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, can you bro up the point of Cassie and
Speaker 5: her realization of just what kind of person she married
Speaker 5: when she was like trying to put medicine on his foot.
Speaker 5: She was like, everything you've been about has been a lie,
Speaker 5: from our finances to our marriage and all that stuff.
Speaker 5: And then he tried to save it by saying, what
Speaker 5: you mean you ain't talk about our love? Thigga always
Speaker 5: Nigga always know what to saying what it's back against
Speaker 5: the wall.
Speaker 4: But she could.
Speaker 5: She basically makes up her own mind and started her
Speaker 5: own independent path with Maddie, who was the first person.
Speaker 5: I was kind of surprised that she called and then like,
Speaker 5: let's get let's let's get it going, let's get the
Speaker 5: bands back together. I will just because I'm not sure
Speaker 5: how much she told her, because Maddie did pull up
Speaker 5: Hella happy to do this, So I was just surprised
Speaker 5: that she cont find in her so much, saying like,
Speaker 5: Nate's broke this, that and the third, and I need
Speaker 5: to make some money to survive period. Fuck him, like,
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to survive because we ain't got shit
Speaker 5: without him. So that was my thing, I think, And
Speaker 5: maybe she didn't, maybe she didn't, but either way, Maddie
Speaker 5: pulls up and her and Cassie are knee deep in
Speaker 5: this content creation mode. What did y'all think about their
Speaker 5: relationship dynamic this episode?
Speaker 4: I'll start with you, ny, I.
Speaker 6: Mean, it's just more of what this is not a
Speaker 6: surprise at all, they setting this up for two episodes.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: What I thought was interesting was Lexi's.
Speaker 6: Observation of the situation where she's like, you're basically a
Speaker 6: foreign star, You're an internet pimp, Like what is going
Speaker 6: on here?
Speaker 3: So and they're both unapologetic about it.
Speaker 6: So that's the only interesting thing that I'm gathering from
Speaker 6: this Cassie storyline. It's just the comparison of the sex
Speaker 6: work that ruins in the environment in versus the sex
Speaker 6: work that Cassie and Maddie.
Speaker 3: Are involving themselves in.
Speaker 6: It's just that dynamic is interesting and just the idea
Speaker 6: of like where's the how how does the power dynamic
Speaker 6: playing this? Like like, yeah, just the interesting comparison of
Speaker 6: these well to do women who are using sex work
Speaker 6: as a way to capitalize and just the capitalization of
Speaker 6: sex work was interesting to me. But it has nothing
Speaker 6: to do with Cassie or her need to be independent
Speaker 6: or her flighty ways or the way Maddie's is manipulating it.
Speaker 3: I didn't even put that parallel together for whatever reason.
Speaker 3: I don't know why. But noah, yeah, that is an
Speaker 3: interesting parallel. Why are you shaking your head because I'm dumb?
Speaker 4: I did not say that.
Speaker 7: No, but but now that is interesting though, No, no yet,
Speaker 7: Like they said, it wasn't surprising to me they miss
Speaker 7: signing it up.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It still came off a little.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I was expecting something else. I don't know what I'm expecting,
Speaker 3: But it wasn't that.
Speaker 4: I just.
Speaker 3: It didn't. That didn't seem written well to me.
Speaker 7: Honestly, with the whole leaf blower and all that, that
Speaker 7: whole it just wasn't execute for me.
Speaker 4: H m hmmm. What about your what were your thoughts
Speaker 4: on that?
Speaker 1: Mike?
Speaker 4: So I I got similar takes with the whole sex
Speaker 4: work thing that they got except for with me out.
Speaker 4: I don't know that I find it as interesting because
Speaker 4: I mean, it just seems I don't know, it just
Speaker 4: seems kind of ABC one two three because you have
Speaker 4: one group that you know, on one side, the women
Speaker 4: are being obviously exploited, and then you have Cassie story
Speaker 4: where she's almost this sounds fucked up, and it's almost
Speaker 4: like she wants to be exploited because maybe she'll get
Speaker 4: some dough that way. And then you got the Jewels
Speaker 4: story where it's like, well, no, I'm actually exploiting the
Speaker 4: other motherfucker. So it's all wrapped up in sex work,
Speaker 4: but I just don't know what the purpose is. And
Speaker 4: it almost feels like Sam Levinson didn't really have anything
Speaker 4: else that he could throw at the wall, so he's
Speaker 4: just like, oh, sex work, Let's make the entire fucking
Speaker 4: season about sex work and exploitation. And it's like, all right, bro.
Speaker 4: But as far as the Cassie Maddie thing, it makes
Speaker 4: sense to me because I can telling y'all, Maddie don't
Speaker 4: give a fuck about Cassie. Maddie's trying to get paid
Speaker 4: and then she's happily, happily ruining their marriage. She is
Speaker 4: fucking hyped that all of that shit fell apart. So
Speaker 4: I guarantee you. When Cassie called her and said, Maddie,
Speaker 4: I left Nate, she was like, shit, girl, I'll be
Speaker 4: over there in five minutes. Let's go to this pool
Speaker 4: and take some pictures. But I do disagree a little
Speaker 4: bit with Rod. I think that the scene with the leaplower,
Speaker 4: I fucked with that whole scene. I thought it was
Speaker 4: funny because like anytime someone would be saying something, the
Speaker 4: leap lower would cut on and it would cut out
Speaker 4: like the important parts of the conversation. So I thought
Speaker 4: that shit was funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was annoying for me.
Speaker 4: Damn for me.
Speaker 3: But I get it though, now that you said it
Speaker 3: being intentional, it could be cool.
Speaker 6: But because it was a lot of important things being
Speaker 6: said in that scene, and then you got Rude coming
Speaker 6: in asking for drugs and like she's like, wait a minute, relaxed.
Speaker 12: So like it it's a lot of like like little
Speaker 12: crumbs of important concepts, like you got Rude dealing in
Speaker 12: this drug life with her addiction.
Speaker 3: You got me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was it was a lot said and then
Speaker 6: you have the comedic timing of the leaf blower to
Speaker 6: like keep you from hearing with actually being said.
Speaker 3: It was good to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that it was funny because it was
Speaker 4: or maybe I was just noticing it more whenever Cassie
Speaker 4: would talk, but whenever Cassie would start saying something, the
Speaker 4: leaf blower would cut on, and I guess they were
Speaker 4: trying to make it. I still like it, but it's
Speaker 4: also kind of corny. They're trying to make a parallel like, Oh,
Speaker 4: we don't really want to hear what you have to say.
Speaker 4: Just get up there and just fucking show your show,
Speaker 4: your boobs, show whatever ass you got, and that's that's
Speaker 4: all that we care about right now. We don't care
Speaker 4: about anything that's coming out of your mouth. So I
Speaker 4: thought I thought it was kind of funny. Lou what
Speaker 4: about you? Yeah? I like this scene. I thought was clever.
Speaker 8: Uh, they weare conveniently came on and each time, and
Speaker 8: I like the conversations that they were having.
Speaker 4: I liked that she came off as kind of like
Speaker 4: the liberal, liberal white lady Karen.
Speaker 8: It's just like they were like, okay, whatever, they didn't
Speaker 8: want to listen to what's her name, Lexi's Lexi. Yeah,
Speaker 8: she came off like that to me and tying it
Speaker 8: into Rule and how she popped up and how she
Speaker 8: wouldn't She wasn't concerned at all what Cassie was doing,
Speaker 8: even though she had an idea, but she was heavily
Speaker 8: invested in the gru at the club, and going back
Speaker 8: to your sex work point, I think they are showing
Speaker 8: all the different aspects of sex work, and Rule was
Speaker 8: overly concerned, which got her into trouble about the girl
Speaker 8: and what she was doing for sex work and how
Speaker 8: she may be being exploited. But she didn't say anything
Speaker 8: when it was her friend, So I found that was
Speaker 8: interesting as well too. But I did pick up on
Speaker 8: the sex works aspects from each one of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I thought it was it was right, No,
Speaker 1: m Nope, you got it.
Speaker 6: I was slightly disagreement with the commentary about Maddie not
Speaker 6: really giving any kind of fuck about cassie situation. I
Speaker 6: think she absolutely does not care about the marriage right,
Speaker 6: but she I do think to a certain extent she does.
Speaker 6: She's not letting Maddie go or Cassie go too too far,
Speaker 6: like she didn't want to see her actually have sex
Speaker 6: with the guy because she knew one that's gonna mess
Speaker 6: up her situation and she don't want Cassie to go
Speaker 6: too far. But then it also I feel like like
Speaker 6: in that scene with Brew where she was like, I
Speaker 6: don't feel comfortable getting you connected with drugs. Like I
Speaker 6: think Maddie has some kind of moral compasses, really really narrow,
Speaker 6: but I think that she's like only allowing people to.
Speaker 3: Go to a certain exting.
Speaker 6: So I do she wants to get her papers, she
Speaker 6: wants a situation to work out for herself, but she
Speaker 6: still has some kind of care for these people that
Speaker 6: she's involved with.
Speaker 4: I think she cares about Rue m I think they
Speaker 4: showed Matt in the second season when Ru was out
Speaker 4: and was on drugs or whatever. I think she cares
Speaker 4: about Rue. I don't I be really surprised if they
Speaker 4: actually show that she truly cares about Cassie, because, like
Speaker 4: you said, I think that whole thing with not having
Speaker 4: sex with the dude was just so it didn't fuck
Speaker 4: up Cassie's wrap, which would then fuck up her money.
Speaker 8: I do agree with you that she Maddie does have
Speaker 8: some similus of care about Cassie. I'm talking about Rue.
Speaker 8: She didn't give two flying fucks what Cassie was doing,
Speaker 8: but she was overly concerned. She was overly concerned about
Speaker 8: the lady at the club that she didn't know. That's
Speaker 8: that was interesting to me.
Speaker 4: That's just guilt. She feels bad that she got the
Speaker 4: other girl killed. Mm hmm.
Speaker 10: I thought it was interesting because it's like when when
Speaker 10: at first everything was kind of setting up for the
Speaker 10: pool scene.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 10: One of the things I was saying when I was
Speaker 10: in here watching, I was like, they're all kind of
Speaker 10: outcasts they, you know, in the sense they all really
Speaker 10: don't fit in in the way that people view of
Speaker 10: people should fit in. And then Letsie is the one
Speaker 10: person that is sort of normal on the show, and
Speaker 10: she's watching all of these things and she's quickly calling
Speaker 10: out these sort of behaviors. But all three of them,
Speaker 10: they are completely comfortable in the world that they live
Speaker 10: in and they continue to move forward with whatever it
Speaker 10: is that they're seeking to do.
Speaker 1: So I thought that that was really interesting that they
Speaker 1: did that.
Speaker 10: In addition to like the parallels between the clubs that
Speaker 10: you guys already talked about, how they kept flip flopping
Speaker 10: back and forth.
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 10: I think the conversation that you guys had before about
Speaker 10: Maddie and Maddie own this revenge tour play they got
Speaker 10: me in the in the club scene because I thought
Speaker 10: that that's what she did. I thought she finally made
Speaker 10: a move because I thought she was still upset about
Speaker 10: the wedding, but it seems like she just kind of
Speaker 10: moved on from that shit and just like, all right, well,
Speaker 10: you know, we're just gonna go out here and just
Speaker 10: get money. So I thought she Yeah, I thought she
Speaker 10: left her and you know, shut her up to go
Speaker 10: have that situation with that guy. You know, because when
Speaker 10: you said because I don't think she's ruining the marriage,
Speaker 10: and I don't know if that's what you meant, Mike,
Speaker 10: but I think the marriage is already ruined.
Speaker 1: And she just there and Cassie just ran to her.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, you're right, you're right. I take that back,
Speaker 4: because it's not like she's pushing Cassie to show her
Speaker 4: actual breast, because that's what Nate didn't want. So no,
Speaker 4: you're right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Nick.
Speaker 5: No, I was just gonna say that Ken, that was
Speaker 5: actually gonna be a question I was going to ask
Speaker 5: you because like that scene threw me off a little
Speaker 5: bit too, because I didn't know where it was going
Speaker 5: to go exactly, Like which scene the scene where Maddie
Speaker 5: is going up to the door that's locked in the
Speaker 5: club and like banging on it, trying to make sure
Speaker 5: but why I was just saying, like that was the
Speaker 5: scene that stood out to me about Maddie as far
Speaker 5: as does she care about Cassie, Like like it felt
Speaker 5: like I didn't know if that was a scene where
Speaker 5: she was like advocating for or trying to save her
Speaker 5: the last second, or trying to get that close up
Speaker 5: of like because it seemed like it was like a
Speaker 5: commercial or some shit like that, And I was like,
Speaker 5: what it was. Is that either brilliant on their part
Speaker 5: of knowing like was that their tag team.
Speaker 4: Original plan or did they just look into that shit
Speaker 4: it was?
Speaker 10: I don't know, Nick, because I was with you, I
Speaker 10: was like, oh shit, like what is she going to do?
Speaker 10: Because she went in there and Cassie started going crazy,
Speaker 10: and I didn't know if Cassie was actively competing with
Speaker 10: the girl beside her, because that's just Cassie being Cassie.
Speaker 10: Or if this was her making sure that she had
Speaker 10: the guy's complete full attention for when they burst into
Speaker 10: the door. So I'm with you, I still don't know
Speaker 10: if if like that was the full play. I know
Speaker 10: that was the play, but I don't know if they
Speaker 10: executed the play in a way that they wanted to ask.
Speaker 10: I think they may have, like you said, gotten lucky
Speaker 10: with a lot picking So I really don't know, but
Speaker 10: they got me with that shit.
Speaker 6: I think that they they keep bating us in this
Speaker 6: way with Cassie because I was, and I literally ought
Speaker 6: to be, like, she is dune to box of rocks, rocks,
Speaker 6: what is she doing?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 6: But I also think they keep playing with this thing
Speaker 6: where Cassie is at the point where she's kind of
Speaker 6: kind of knows what she's doing and she's learned how
Speaker 6: to manipulate the situation in her favor.
Speaker 4: So I was.
Speaker 6: I will say that I did feel like they executed
Speaker 6: this scene well because you couldn't tell how much of
Speaker 6: this was calculated and how much of this was just
Speaker 6: the luck of the draw and how much of this
Speaker 6: Cassie was aware of or not. So I thought they
Speaker 6: did a good job at this thing. I still don't care,
Speaker 6: but I think they did a good job.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw out there, I don't I don't think.
Speaker 4: I think Cassie's just getting lucky because I don't think
Speaker 4: you could. I mean not that I not that I've seen.
Speaker 4: I don't think you can snort coke and especially put
Speaker 4: coke up your badge and still have your your senses
Speaker 4: about you, especially someone like Cassie. So when they were
Speaker 4: showing her doing that, I was like, Oh, she's she's
Speaker 4: just wilding, and then she kind of just got lucky
Speaker 4: that Maddie was there to fucking rain the whole thing in.
Speaker 4: So I don't know if I don't know if I
Speaker 4: would buy that Cassie planned all of that, because that
Speaker 4: seems like a lot to I don't know, man, I
Speaker 4: just don't see. I don't see nobody planning put in,
Speaker 4: you know, a line of coke up their vagina and
Speaker 4: then just being.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying again, we're.
Speaker 5: We may be giving her too much credit, especially when
Speaker 5: someone who's on drugs in that situation. But from the
Speaker 5: game talk, like the game talk that they had and
Speaker 5: she was like, oh, it sounds like we're going to war.
Speaker 4: It was like they had a.
Speaker 5: Plan ratty kind of coaster, and then Cassie just was
Speaker 5: like just a great actor for that scene. Again, Like
Speaker 5: I'm not saying like that's exactly what it was, but
Speaker 5: the way she she said that last part when Maddie
Speaker 5: got into the room and they had the cameras on her,
Speaker 5: it was like she was well within her mind to
Speaker 5: say like that.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like druggie, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I wonder if they faked this out, maybe she didn't
Speaker 4: actually do it.
Speaker 6: She did her belly button, she went around her belly button,
Speaker 6: so I think she didn't get a little bit.
Speaker 3: And I don't.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I think that's what I'm saying, Like, I
Speaker 6: feel like she was aware enough of the situation, and
Speaker 6: it was very obvious to me that she was trying
Speaker 6: to get the dude's.
Speaker 3: Attention from the other girl.
Speaker 6: So I think there was definitely the power play between
Speaker 6: the two girls, and she still was able to keep
Speaker 6: him keep the situation from her actually having sex. And
Speaker 6: she kept looking at the block so she knew Maddie
Speaker 6: was coming. So I feel like she knew enough of
Speaker 6: this what was going on to manipulate it in her favor.
Speaker 6: Which is a lot better than the Cassie of high school.
Speaker 4: So you think if he took his dick out that
Speaker 4: she would have not fucked him.
Speaker 6: I think she would have tried to figure out a
Speaker 6: way not to, because Maddie very explicitly said once she
Speaker 6: is not going to care about what goes on. So
Speaker 6: I think she was very aware.
Speaker 4: See, that's why I thought she was Yeah, that's why
Speaker 4: I thought she was just wilding out because she was
Speaker 4: taking her clothes off and then he was like, I
Speaker 4: want to fuck you so bad. She was like, oh, really,
Speaker 4: like right now, it seemed like she was cool with it,
Speaker 4: and then Maddie just kind of saved the day by
Speaker 4: fucking busting in the room. I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I guess I gotta watch that scene again.
Speaker 7: It's looking at the looking at the lock till a
Speaker 7: lot on the looking at the Locke tails a lot,
Speaker 7: because she was aware that, Okay, I need you to
Speaker 7: get in here because he's trying to have sex with
Speaker 7: me at this point.
Speaker 3: So it seemed like she was really aware of that part.
Speaker 5: Well, we'll see how smart this duo is moving forward,
Speaker 5: because clearly.
Speaker 4: They ended to win it.
Speaker 13: You would love to have more content from frames per second.
Speaker 13: Become a patron where you can contribute to what we
Speaker 13: review and discuss. Our Patreon gives the listeners the power
Speaker 13: to nominate and vote a monthly discussion and film review,
Speaker 13: while also nominating and voting on weekly solo reviews from
Speaker 13: each cast member. You also get the opportunity to vote
Speaker 13: on the publicly released anniversary film, all exclusive to our Patreon.
Speaker 13: So become a patron at patreon dot com frames per
Speaker 13: second where there are two tiers you can choose from.
Speaker 13: That's patreon dot com forward slash frames per second.
Speaker 5: I want to move on a little bit to the
Speaker 5: other part of that, uh this conversation where it comes
Speaker 5: with Lexi and Jewels. So we see Jewels again and
Speaker 5: since she's got a sugar daddy, she just be farting
Speaker 5: around at at home watching reality TV shows or whatever.
Speaker 5: But she get a call from Lexi who's like, listen,
Speaker 5: I gotta I gotta lick for you. I got an
Speaker 5: opportunity for you.
Speaker 4: What's up? Are you? Are you down for? And she is,
Speaker 4: and it's.
Speaker 5: An art gig to create a painting for her TV
Speaker 5: show that she's working on, l A Knights, Rob Oh.
Speaker 2: No, Actually, Lou, I'm gonna start with you. Did you
Speaker 2: like the painting? You don't like to ask questions of
Speaker 2: different people.
Speaker 8: I feel like if if she gave her the opportunity
Speaker 8: to do and put her work in front of that
Speaker 8: many people, she at least in or ran about her
Speaker 8: what she was thinking, at least which one.
Speaker 4: Jewels?
Speaker 11: Jewels Like, I ain't saying nothing was wrong with the
Speaker 11: pain that you do.
Speaker 8: Your creative freedom or whatever you wanted, your artistic freedom,
Speaker 8: that's fine, But like the lady said, this is a
Speaker 8: network television show.
Speaker 4: One.
Speaker 8: Two, it's a lot of looks. It's going to be
Speaker 8: on here three and don't even match up with the artists.
Speaker 8: The lady said, I don't even think my character would
Speaker 8: paint anything like this. So it's a lot of jewels
Speaker 8: just going in a while and out and almost costing
Speaker 8: that lady her job when she was just trying to
Speaker 8: give her an opportunity. She thought about her in her
Speaker 8: time like a struggling artist, like I'm putting you on
Speaker 8: Fourth Street and you go in here decide to be
Speaker 8: a rebel or break the rules or something like that
Speaker 8: like that, that's not cool to me.
Speaker 5: You blame that on Jewels, then Lexi for not giving
Speaker 5: her instructions on Nikka.
Speaker 4: This is a network TV.
Speaker 8: I didn't think you come in here and paint dis on.
Speaker 4: Come on, I do.
Speaker 5: This is gonna be an issue, That's what I was.
Speaker 5: I was saving the full question. I was like, who
Speaker 5: is to blame for this or the situation?
Speaker 4: A million percent? Oh wow, I'm with you.
Speaker 2: It has to be Lexi's faults. She's doing offering the
Speaker 2: job opportunity.
Speaker 4: That's right. If somebody hires you for looking at this way, Rod,
Speaker 4: If somebody hires you for a job, right, and they
Speaker 4: don't tell you what the job entails, and you show
Speaker 4: up with stuff that you don't need, you're gonna look
Speaker 4: at them like they're crazy. Right, Actually no, Rodsman saying
Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask before I get there. I picked I
Speaker 4: picked the wrong person. Never mind, forget it, rode the
Speaker 4: wheels turning, Never fucking mind, Rod. But most people, no,
Speaker 4: I think that.
Speaker 6: Is a good comparison, because you have a story, you
Speaker 6: have a certain aesthetic that you do, especially when you're
Speaker 6: hired to do certain types I'm thinking about, and when
Speaker 6: you come and you do that and you present a
Speaker 6: product that isn't what they expected, Like they didn't give
Speaker 6: you an explanation of what they wanted up front and
Speaker 6: told you they're giving you creative license, so.
Speaker 4: You do what you creatively right, right.
Speaker 6: And Jules very clearly said thank you for thinking of me,
Speaker 6: which to me says you know what I'm the type
Speaker 6: of art that I do, and I appreciate you for
Speaker 6: giving me the opportunity to showcase my art and you
Speaker 6: tell me to be creative.
Speaker 4: So yeah, Dix, because that's what I do.
Speaker 6: And if you want me to do what I do,
Speaker 6: if you shouldn't have hired me for the.
Speaker 4: Job, or you should have gave me an explanation of
Speaker 4: up front of what is needed. If if this is
Speaker 4: you know, a job where you just want me to
Speaker 4: paint a beach with flowers and close people. Fine, but
Speaker 4: you can't just give me creative freedom, have me show up,
Speaker 4: do my thing and then be mad at me. This
Speaker 4: is all my Lexi. This is all on Lexi.
Speaker 6: And it was.
Speaker 4: It was sad because when you watch the scene, I
Speaker 4: think that Hunter Shaeffer does a really good job of
Speaker 4: conveying like how much she was into doing this. You
Speaker 4: know she's she's getting what she needs from the dude
Speaker 4: that's paying her bills, but at the same time she
Speaker 4: wants to be an artist, and she's like, fuck, I
Speaker 4: finally got the opportunity. And then she paints this thing
Speaker 4: that is, you know, what's in her mind and then
Speaker 4: it gets rejected. So this was a good ass scene.
Speaker 4: But I disagree with Spike. I don't think this is
Speaker 4: on June. This is on Lexi.
Speaker 5: I want to get ribbed before I go back to Spike.
Speaker 5: Rob you you agree with Ludo, right.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 7: I did agree with him until that, until that was explained,
Speaker 7: because I because like Mike is right, I assume that
Speaker 7: she had the information because I, like Nace says like,
Speaker 7: I'll usually get the information before I do a job,
Speaker 7: unless they say you have creative.
Speaker 3: Control or whatever.
Speaker 7: But now times ten people tell me like, you know,
Speaker 7: they know what they're they're getting when they.
Speaker 3: Hired me for the most part.
Speaker 7: So yeah, So with that said, yeah, that is kind
Speaker 7: of on Lexi if you didn't do your proper research
Speaker 7: as to what she brings as far as art is concerned.
Speaker 7: Uh so, But but I do think there has to
Speaker 7: be some sort of like, yeah, I do feel like
Speaker 7: she still should have act.
Speaker 3: What did she ask?
Speaker 6: She didn't ask what do you want? And she told
Speaker 6: like the piece and like the picnic, and she said, okay,
Speaker 6: so like the people, like the beach and all that
Speaker 6: kind of thing.
Speaker 3: But she never.
Speaker 6: Told her that she was supposed to be painting something
Speaker 6: that like who is this character that she's supposed to
Speaker 6: be doing art for, Like she didn't give her that
Speaker 6: type of background.
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, So yeah, so it's on both of
Speaker 7: them to me because as an artist, you do like,
Speaker 7: like I'm gonna get all the details that I possibly
Speaker 7: can color things, all these things. These are the questions
Speaker 7: I'm going to ask before I just waste my time
Speaker 7: doing a job. Because I don't want to waste my time,
Speaker 7: so I always ask, Okay, what aspect rational?
Speaker 3: You want? You want this to be a real you
Speaker 3: want this to be a traditional format.
Speaker 7: These are the questions I asked before I go in
Speaker 7: and creating art.
Speaker 3: So I feel like it's on both of them.
Speaker 4: Yeah eighty twenty.
Speaker 6: It's like this is like Jules's first real so she
Speaker 6: doesn't really know the questions to ask, right, It's both
Speaker 6: of their first real gigs. So I think this is
Speaker 6: like a good This is like a learning opportunity for
Speaker 6: both of them. And unfortunately this learning opportunity really like
Speaker 6: impacts it both of them. So it'll be yeah to
Speaker 6: see how they each grow from it.
Speaker 4: You can. I think I changed mind to yeah, it
Speaker 4: is on both of them, because Jewles probably should have asked, yeah,
Speaker 4: the court like, if you know you're painting something that
Speaker 4: is provocative, you should probably just run it by. And
Speaker 4: but I do think she made a really good point
Speaker 4: when the lady was like, nah, there's just dick and
Speaker 4: she was like, oh, so you don't have any problem
Speaker 4: with the breast though, that was like a perfect response,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 10: But yeah, all lets you say was we were thinking
Speaker 10: of a Sunday picnic kind of feel. Jules asked the
Speaker 10: question something about umbrellas, and then she says something about
Speaker 10: it she don't need to copy anything, and there's something
Speaker 10: about it should be distinct, and then she said basically,
Speaker 10: do whatever you feel.
Speaker 1: It'll be great.
Speaker 4: The reason though.
Speaker 10: She said she said them fellas ken.
Speaker 1: No, it was a Penis is eacher. She heard that
Speaker 1: wrong either.
Speaker 4: Because she said Pani or Panini. It was she said
Speaker 4: Peni hollered Pni. I've never heard that before. Have you
Speaker 4: heard that before fight. That was like.
Speaker 10: That was a new one on me, but you know,
Speaker 10: was changing these days. So I'm like, well, you know
Speaker 10: it's it's it's you know what, baby does this. But
Speaker 10: that's happened, Lou Lou, and I'll be done. When it happened,
Speaker 10: I was confused by the reaction of everybody, and I'm like,
Speaker 10: did she give her like clear directions on what to do,
Speaker 10: because that's what the lady was saying. The lady was
Speaker 10: breaking down, like did you tell her this?
Speaker 1: That and the other?
Speaker 10: And she was like well, and she was fumbling about
Speaker 10: y'all trying to tell it. But I was like, I
Speaker 10: don't think she said any of that ship and she didn't.
Speaker 10: She said do whatever you feel, it'll be great. And
Speaker 10: it was great, just what they wanted they don't want.
Speaker 11: It was cool for like a second club painting but
Speaker 11: or something like that.
Speaker 8: But if we're putting it on national TV, I'm assuming
Speaker 8: that they had a conversation prior to and that, like
Speaker 8: what you were talking about, Rod, when she called her
Speaker 8: for it, she didn't say, hey, just show up to
Speaker 8: the studio. I want you to do something. They had
Speaker 8: a conversation about probably what she wanted to do.
Speaker 4: You could have.
Speaker 8: Created freedom, but within reason, Like I think it was
Speaker 8: selfish on Jewels part. That never consider what may happen
Speaker 8: to Lexi if she does this, Like, regardless of the
Speaker 8: conversation that we have or not, your friend gave you
Speaker 8: an opportunity to get your.
Speaker 4: Work in front of other people.
Speaker 8: Do something that's good enough to go get them to
Speaker 8: look at the dick pics that you got hung in
Speaker 8: your gallery, but not right here what I work at.
Speaker 8: It almost get me fired. That's that's insane to me.
Speaker 4: That a friend, because Lexi knows who Jules is, so
Speaker 4: she I've never seen a Jewles. Y'all seen Jewish paintings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the second episode, but she was butter naked.
Speaker 4: Clearly, Lexi knows she's a painter, so she knows that
Speaker 4: she does paints. So that's like broke does start, so
Speaker 4: she should have started her.
Speaker 8: That's like if you're a friends community and you ask
Speaker 8: your friend, Hey, my job is hiring comedians for this
Speaker 8: corporate event, can you come do.
Speaker 4: Your adding sauce to it corporate event? She didn't say
Speaker 4: all that she said, but she didn't tell us TV.
Speaker 4: She didn't on TV. She said it's a live.
Speaker 8: She said, it's l a livey seven million people are
Speaker 8: going to see this. She said that, yes, she said,
Speaker 8: she said this LA Live is seven million people are
Speaker 8: going to see this. If you had a friend that
Speaker 8: was a comedian that was going to come to your
Speaker 8: job and perform a set and they get up there
Speaker 8: don't do a blue set or whatever they call it
Speaker 8: where they don't cuss.
Speaker 4: That's on your friend. I gave you this opportunity and
Speaker 4: you you just sit on me. That's on you for
Speaker 4: not saying, hey, you can't curse. That's your ball that.
Speaker 10: You You know what friends you have that you have
Speaker 10: to be very very clear.
Speaker 1: About some ship and would I would.
Speaker 11: Seriously have to reconsider our friendship if you can't.
Speaker 4: And if I was your boss, I would consider you
Speaker 4: having a job because you don't have enough.
Speaker 3: Fault.
Speaker 4: That's her fault.
Speaker 8: I think she was being good, harded giving an opportunity
Speaker 8: to a friend and her friends just to show her
Speaker 8: any respect and ship.
Speaker 4: It on her. I'm on her. She gave her some dicks.
Speaker 4: It wasn't even like detailed dicks. I think they were
Speaker 4: dicks that could have made it to network TV. They
Speaker 4: weren't like there was like.
Speaker 14: On network TV. It's never happened. It's never happened in life.
Speaker 14: Why would she be able to It was a painting
Speaker 14: of a dick. It was an artful dick spike. You've
Speaker 14: never seen that on network TV.
Speaker 4: Either. I'm gonna look I find, I'm gonna send it
Speaker 4: to you. I don't want to tell me I would.
Speaker 4: I just would expect that.
Speaker 8: I would expect my friend to think through that more
Speaker 8: than to put me in that position. I gave you
Speaker 8: an opportunity. You just like completely let me die.
Speaker 4: What's your thoughts? Name?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was on both of them.
Speaker 6: I like, initially, I feel like Lexi's more at fault
Speaker 6: for not for not expressing exactly what was required because wow, yes,
Speaker 6: this is Jules's profession.
Speaker 3: Also, like, this is your job, so.
Speaker 6: Your responsibility is to make sure that you provide what
Speaker 6: you need for this scene, and you didn't do that,
Speaker 6: Like regardless of her relationship with Jewels and whether or
Speaker 6: not like Jewels was being creative with Jewels and anybody
Speaker 6: if you knew, you know Jews, you know who you
Speaker 6: know Jeels out there, so you know you gotta rain
Speaker 6: her in or at least let her know what this
Speaker 6: is for. I think this was more so on Lexi,
Speaker 6: but it was definitely a like both of them being
Speaker 6: green and not really having experience, and neither one of
Speaker 6: them asking the right questions or giving.
Speaker 3: The right instruction.
Speaker 6: I just think Lexi is at more of a disadvantage
Speaker 6: because she is, as shares Song said, are that negative
Speaker 6: two hundred thousand plus?
Speaker 4: Like you.
Speaker 6: Up? Like they could sue her for that money for
Speaker 6: all intents and purposes, or she could be out of
Speaker 6: the dog Jeweles is gonna.
Speaker 3: Go back to her pent house and be straight.
Speaker 6: So I think this was really more all she had, more,
Speaker 6: she has more to lose in this situation.
Speaker 10: Yeah, she said, who would paint something like this?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that line, that line, I didn't know how. I
Speaker 5: didn't know what to take with that line from Lexi,
Speaker 5: Like was that something like please don't hurt my friend,
Speaker 5: like you know, this just fire or like or was
Speaker 5: it like she is trying to make sure that.
Speaker 4: I don't know how to take that line.
Speaker 5: But nonetheless, I think we all agree for the most part,
Speaker 5: this is all Lexi, because if you're gonna offer somebody something,
Speaker 5: you got to give them all the stipulations. However, if
Speaker 5: Jules was more aware of what her art can invoke
Speaker 5: or be, the response could it could could you come about?
Speaker 4: She should be like, listen, this is the kind of
Speaker 4: art I do.
Speaker 5: Like, come look at somebody to here's some photos of
Speaker 5: the arts and stuff that I've done my pa.
Speaker 4: That I know. I'm right. I'm just I'm just saying it.
Speaker 5: But because, like to Lou's point, if you're gonna do
Speaker 5: something that's getting a lot of eyes and your friend
Speaker 5: is doing is calling you in for your services, I
Speaker 5: would have you would have assumed that she would have
Speaker 5: been like, this is actually what I do.
Speaker 2: Are you sure this is the show that's for me?
Speaker 5: Cause you know what I'm saying, because she wants she
Speaker 5: wants to look as well, because she was happy about it.
Speaker 5: But obviously, again I'm not saying it's not it's still
Speaker 5: on LEXI. I'm just saying a reasonable person would have asked.
Speaker 5: But if y'all saying she's young and still figuring herself
Speaker 5: out as an artist, that could be a good reason
Speaker 5: for her not to say nothing either.
Speaker 4: Nick, If you go back to the second episode, they
Speaker 4: were showing her painting and she wasn't painting digs. I know.
Speaker 4: So when we keep saying that that's what she does,
Speaker 4: that's what she does, that's not necessarily what she does.
Speaker 4: LEXI might have seen one of the I don't want
Speaker 4: to call it regular paintings, but like the non the
Speaker 4: nondicular paintings and thought, okay, this is a good idea,
Speaker 4: and then Ju was like, well, I want to express myself,
Speaker 4: so I'm gonna go all out. This is her idea
Speaker 4: of a beach scene is not just you know, sis people,
Speaker 4: but trans people and everybody else. So I was just
Speaker 4: taking it from the standpoint from what I've seen on
Speaker 4: the show. She always does nudity in her paintings, so
Speaker 4: that's what that was.
Speaker 5: She from from the first painting that we saw her,
Speaker 5: when she was with the back of the sky of
Speaker 5: her apartment, I thought the painting had like it's still
Speaker 5: have breasts showing.
Speaker 2: It was just bent they were like bent over naked whatever.
Speaker 5: So I was just saying So I was just saying
Speaker 5: like she's always painting and nudity, because that's why that
Speaker 5: was the last line that the producer said.
Speaker 4: She was like after she brought up the breast, she.
Speaker 5: Was like, well, we don't want nudity in general, and
Speaker 5: I was like, Okay, that's something that I'm like, I
Speaker 5: think that's all she's done from what I've seen. I
Speaker 5: could be wrong, but from the paintings that we've seen
Speaker 5: her do at her spot, they've all been kind of
Speaker 5: new paintings. So my thing is, like Blu's point, if
Speaker 5: Lexi's working for Network TV, I've never seen.
Speaker 4: Dix or.
Speaker 2: Flat out on Network TV. But again it's on Lexi.
Speaker 10: But we also know we've seen two seasons of Jewels
Speaker 10: now a third, Like we have a good idea of
Speaker 10: her character and her best friend that we would assume
Speaker 10: spent a lot of his friend, but someone that spent
Speaker 10: a lot of time with her in high school should
Speaker 10: also have more of an understanding of who she is
Speaker 10: and how she operates. I think it was just Lexi
Speaker 10: being just dumb and not communicating properly, and it just
Speaker 10: backfired on it, and she just she just walked away,
Speaker 10: and she didn't know that that's what Jewles we was
Speaker 10: gonna do. If you look at Jules face, Jewles was dumbfounded.
Speaker 10: She was so confused as to what happened. She's never
Speaker 10: been in this spot before or has this sort of experience,
Speaker 10: so when she that's why she was like confused by
Speaker 10: the reaction of everything, because because of the details and
Speaker 10: information that was left out, and since she doesn't have
Speaker 10: a lot of experience, she's not going to be in
Speaker 10: the mindset to even ask about those sort of things.
Speaker 4: Although I think she was more hurt than confused, But yeah,
Speaker 4: I agree, it got to hurt.
Speaker 1: It got to hurt.
Speaker 10: She was confused at first, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, then
Speaker 10: it got to the feeling of rejection and hurt.
Speaker 1: And that's when the paint she threw the ship on it.
Speaker 3: She said.
Speaker 7: That, like because it's like, yeah, she doubled down at
Speaker 7: that point. She is a friend, right because it's like, yo,
Speaker 7: like that caid cost her job.
Speaker 4: And you know it can't no, because wait, I don't
Speaker 4: remember there being another dick. What was the what was
Speaker 4: the doubling?
Speaker 6: She made a big penis all the way around. It's
Speaker 6: like she did two balls and a dick.
Speaker 4: I didn't even notice that. Yeah, it was in the
Speaker 4: red though, yeah, yea, yeah.
Speaker 10: It was rare, but it didn't matter because they had
Speaker 10: already scrapped. So yeah, because they already said we're gonna
Speaker 10: get get rid of it.
Speaker 1: So it was irrelevant, was she it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with Ken and that was her. She was hurt.
Speaker 8: It wasn't irrelevant. It was not irrelevant. They had to
Speaker 8: stop the shoot. They had to stop the shoot and
Speaker 8: push it back a week. It cast them three.
Speaker 4: No, that was before, so they scrapped the whole scene.
Speaker 4: At that point they were like it, we'll just move
Speaker 4: the scene.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they moved it to another week.
Speaker 6: But I thought that they were doing that to give
Speaker 6: her time to fix the paint.
Speaker 8: I don't That's how it seemed to me that they
Speaker 8: told her to fix it.
Speaker 4: Paint clothes here first at first, and then they said,
Speaker 4: forget it, we'll just scrap the scene. After she painted
Speaker 4: the dicks on there again, they don't think so.
Speaker 1: No, No, that's not I don't know.
Speaker 4: Because I don't think they ever went back and saw it.
Speaker 14: I just watched it home.
Speaker 4: Right now. The assumption was that they didn't even get
Speaker 4: the dicks again, Spike was going off.
Speaker 11: I wanted to make sure I had it right.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go look right now.
Speaker 8: When she was in the window looking out, and uh,
Speaker 8: LEXI came in there to talk to her.
Speaker 11: This is after she had painted the dicks.
Speaker 1: On there.
Speaker 8: Again, and then she told her we gave her another chance.
Speaker 8: Well she didn't say that, but the assumption was we
Speaker 8: gave her another chance, and then she went in here
Speaker 8: and did this. So now we got to find somebody
Speaker 8: to actually paint it. We got to rebook the studio,
Speaker 8: we got to reset the scene.
Speaker 4: That's gonna be a week and a half. And she
Speaker 4: she didn't. She shared on her friend, Well maybe she
Speaker 4: should be shipped on because she's stupid. God, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: She is stupid.
Speaker 6: Understand it that way. I thought they were pushing the
Speaker 6: scene back to allow her time.
Speaker 3: To fix it.
Speaker 6: She had this outburst, put the big yellow dick in
Speaker 6: the red bit and yeah, did that out of frustration.
Speaker 6: I wasn't necessarily looking at it as she was like, oh,
Speaker 6: forget it. And but now when you say that, yes,
Speaker 6: I do think Jules Jules doubled down on the dick.
Speaker 6: Was was was a was wrong in terms of her
Speaker 6: situation with Lexi. She should have just said, look, I'm
Speaker 6: not comfortable. You should find somebody else, like, because at
Speaker 6: this point I'm mad, my creative process has been messed up.
Speaker 6: You need to find somebody else to do that. But
Speaker 6: instead she threw a timper tantrum and drew the big
Speaker 6: victim the little dicks, and so yes that I feel
Speaker 6: like was wrong in that sense in terms of her
Speaker 6: relationship with Lexi, but they're both in a situation where
Speaker 6: they're hurt.
Speaker 3: At this point.
Speaker 4: You have to consider though, that Jewels took that as
Speaker 4: an attack on her trans identity. Correct, So I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna fucking be like, oh, well, she's a bad friend.
Speaker 4: I'm still looking at Lexi like Lexi is stupid, and
Speaker 4: if anything, she should feel bad for putting Jewels in
Speaker 4: that kind of position to where she would have her
Speaker 4: identity fucking challenge like that. So I don't feel bad
Speaker 4: for Lexi.
Speaker 3: I think stupid is a little harsh.
Speaker 4: Okay, dumb as fuck? Is that matter?
Speaker 3: Going into it? I think they're bally naives going into it.
Speaker 3: I think it's growing pains when.
Speaker 6: You're in a new career and in a new field
Speaker 6: and try to figure out who you are, especially when
Speaker 6: your identity is connected to what you're doing.
Speaker 5: So I think, yeah, I never had you said that,
Speaker 5: she would have never had to worry about hearing from me.
Speaker 4: She wouldn't be your friend Anywaysike.
Speaker 8: If I was whoever, if I was Lexi, she would
Speaker 8: have to worry about me being I do believe.
Speaker 5: That they're going to have an argument about this. I
Speaker 5: think we will hear both perspectives on what happened. I
Speaker 5: don't think that was just a one off thing.
Speaker 3: I don't think well.
Speaker 5: I think it would be interesting to dive into why
Speaker 5: Jules was hurt, and then we obviously know why Lexi
Speaker 5: is going to be upset.
Speaker 2: But I think it'll be interesting to see why Jules
Speaker 2: was hurt specifically.
Speaker 5: Moving on, we'll recap those how those storylines go, but
Speaker 5: we can. You gotta get to the buried delete enough
Speaker 5: can Let's get Let's get back to Rue where we
Speaker 5: start off this episode. She's getting arrested like we saw
Speaker 5: her in the last one, but this time she we learned. Well,
Speaker 5: at least I thought I was like, damn, Rue got away.
Speaker 5: She ain't had no drugs. But man, oh man, they
Speaker 5: can drive a van in Mexico that goes to Mexico.
Speaker 2: Hey, something something's in there.
Speaker 8: He found out she sucked up, right, They always gonna
Speaker 8: find it. You can sit there and hope all you
Speaker 8: want it. They don't find it once they call them
Speaker 8: dogs just over with.
Speaker 1: It's over with.
Speaker 5: H she get arrested, uh, and they immediately start asking
Speaker 5: her questions about Lorie. But I want to just going
Speaker 5: overall thoughts on the interrogation scene. I'm gonna start with,
Speaker 5: you can did Rude hold up like a soldier?
Speaker 1: Rude?
Speaker 10: Rude has got to be one of the dumbest persons
Speaker 10: out there, bro, Like she she can't lie, Like when
Speaker 10: she started making that little little face, you know, it's
Speaker 10: a wrap, you know, it's like she just she already
Speaker 10: knows she's in trouble.
Speaker 1: No, she was absolutely terrible.
Speaker 10: She did not hold the line at all, and and
Speaker 10: I think she just felled horribly at her job, even
Speaker 10: lying about Mexico line about drugs.
Speaker 1: But what I did think was funny.
Speaker 10: She was like, Oh, you guys can lie to me,
Speaker 10: but I can't lie to you. That ship was funny
Speaker 10: to me. But No, was terrible in this whole situation.
Speaker 10: And yeah, no she didn't. She was awful.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what she's gonna do.
Speaker 11: Bro, She's a snitch, She's gonna snitch.
Speaker 4: It.
Speaker 8: But yeah, I feel like she should have been coached
Speaker 8: on what to do in this situation by one of
Speaker 8: these two people twice just asked for a lawyer, Like
Speaker 8: it's just ask for a lawyer and figure out on
Speaker 8: the back end. Now you ain't got to be a
Speaker 8: snitch or whatever it may be. But yeah, she up
Speaker 8: shit creep.
Speaker 6: I would say that I thought they did an amazing
Speaker 6: job acting in this scene.
Speaker 3: Did and like.
Speaker 6: When I was watching it and I was thinking about
Speaker 6: like her mannerisms, like the way she was shaking her
Speaker 6: legs under the table, her facial expressions, and then when
Speaker 6: I think about her and like other stuff like.
Speaker 3: The drama, I think about her and challenges. I'm like,
Speaker 3: this girl can really.
Speaker 6: Act like she's really good and she's a horrible liar,
Speaker 6: but I believe that, Like I like, I felt like
Speaker 6: that was a stoner kid, Like I really believed she
Speaker 6: was ruthe.
Speaker 3: What about you, Rod, what's the actual question?
Speaker 2: What did you think about the interrogation scene?
Speaker 3: Oh? No, thought I thought it was good.
Speaker 7: I like how they were interrogating her with the drugs,
Speaker 7: lying tour all this just kind of trying to pull
Speaker 7: information out of it that was executed really well. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I agree with Nate, like like she like then Dan's
Speaker 7: killing this character, like like She is really doing a
Speaker 7: great job with this character. But I couldn't help to
Speaker 7: be annoyed though, because of the conversation that we had
Speaker 7: last week. I was looking at day. We watched it
Speaker 7: together last night, and I was like, they really about
Speaker 7: to do it?
Speaker 6: I was like, they really and then like this is
Speaker 6: how it became. Wow.
Speaker 3: I like the comp that's the rest of the.
Speaker 4: Season me entertainment.
Speaker 8: If somebody said they had a picture of the moon, absolutely.
Speaker 4: Because I've never been to the.
Speaker 1: Talking about hypothetical, so you don't have a hypothetical.
Speaker 4: That was a good scene right there.
Speaker 10: So dirty around, you know, I mean, I've gotten lost.
Speaker 5: Hey, Rod, it's funny you called the cops thirty to
Speaker 5: somebody who's selling drugs.
Speaker 3: You made me lots they did they?
Speaker 4: No, they didn't.
Speaker 1: That's very direct.
Speaker 4: It was a question.
Speaker 1: She mexic D.
Speaker 4: Right, that's a direct question, Mike.
Speaker 5: Mike, did you have any issues with this being a
Speaker 5: storyline for Rue carrying on to the second half of
Speaker 5: the season.
Speaker 4: Absolutely not. I'm I'm I guess I'm a bit confused
Speaker 4: about the whole because I don't subscribe to the whole
Speaker 4: stupid don't Snitch ship. I don't give a fuck about
Speaker 4: any of that stuff. So, and I meant to listen
Speaker 4: to y'all's review, but I I didn't get a chance to.
Speaker 4: So I don't know what the conversation is around snitching.
Speaker 4: But in my opinion, and I'll be on an island,
Speaker 4: Ru being a snitch one makes the most sense, and
Speaker 4: two absolutely works. And I actually, I actually like it.
Speaker 4: I like the fact that Rue is now a snitch
Speaker 4: because of course Ru would be a snitch. Ru is
Speaker 4: not going down for anybody. So if they didn't make
Speaker 4: her a snitch, I would then question the writing of
Speaker 4: this show.
Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't.
Speaker 8: In fact, I don't really think it was the fact
Speaker 8: that she was a snitch that we were talking about.
Speaker 8: It was more since that they went that route, like
Speaker 8: of course, like Nick was saying last week, of course,
Speaker 8: if she gets caught, she's gonna beet snitched. But I
Speaker 8: think we were on the stand so well, we don't
Speaker 8: even want to see that. There's a lot more interesting
Speaker 8: things that we could do with this character in these
Speaker 8: scenarios versus her getting caught by the police.
Speaker 4: I think her getting caught by the police and becoming
Speaker 4: a fucking snitch against her will is one hundred. It's
Speaker 4: what would happen because it's the same shit I said
Speaker 4: on the very first episode. Ru is a fucking dumb ass.
Speaker 4: She's not a very savvy person. She can manipulate her
Speaker 4: family members and her friends. That's where it stops anybody
Speaker 4: outside of that circle. Ru is a fuck up, and
Speaker 4: her fucking up this bad and ending up a snitch.
Speaker 4: I'm here for it. I'm here for it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was just I wasn't surprised. But also, like
Speaker 5: when you see the breakdown of the wire, this is
Speaker 5: where I was getting to lose point, and I think
Speaker 5: it's some others where it's like we see her get
Speaker 5: the wire, and while we see it's in a more
Speaker 5: tech savvy way, it's now on a cell phone when
Speaker 5: she just got to press a button and it just
Speaker 5: kind of starts recording everything.
Speaker 4: That leads us to like.
Speaker 5: Us seeing her with Big Eddie, and then that leads
Speaker 5: us to us seeing her with Alamo at the poker's table,
Speaker 5: which I felt like was like the biggest part of
Speaker 5: like one of the best scenes of this episode. Uh Ken,
Speaker 5: I wanted to throw it to you again. What did
Speaker 5: you think about that poker scene with Alamo? Did you
Speaker 5: think she got caught immediately because it's just rude.
Speaker 10: Yeah, she doesn't know, like she's horrible at this. She's
Speaker 10: never been good at it ever. We've seen this, so
Speaker 10: we know that when rude. And first of all, she's
Speaker 10: never really even asked about inn this situation. So I'm
Speaker 10: with Alamo, like, you're inserting yourself into business and you've
Speaker 10: never done that before.
Speaker 1: This is weird.
Speaker 10: What what he called and said, she has the rat
Speaker 10: you know, yeah, look in your face. And I thought
Speaker 10: he was talking about snitche too, because it seemed like
Speaker 10: a guy like Alamo is up on top of his game.
Speaker 1: So for him to go to using I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess that makes sense, but I thought I thought of
Speaker 1: Knelt And.
Speaker 5: To your point, Ken Like, his demeanor is like, there's
Speaker 5: a mes to my madness. I'm not just some like
Speaker 5: goofy charismatic dude or whatever. But because he knows she
Speaker 5: used to be a user, that's the first thing I
Speaker 5: would think. If she's off her game. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Oh, you're using drugs again, I wouldn't think
Speaker 5: she's a.
Speaker 4: Snitch just yet.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's not too That's probably the second
Speaker 5: or third thing I'll go to.
Speaker 4: But the first thing is but.
Speaker 1: She's asking about like connects and shit, right.
Speaker 2: She's trying to get more drugs, like as a drug.
Speaker 8: Would drugs, And if she was, I think I think
Speaker 8: he suspected her, Like can't say because she was just usual,
Speaker 8: she was still out of the club, like she would
Speaker 8: just go that route, wouldn't bring it to their attention.
Speaker 8: He's absolutely correct, correct, And I like what you said
Speaker 8: about this scene. I think it was one of the
Speaker 8: best of the episode because how they try to double
Speaker 8: untendre with the rat thing. But I think he thinks
Speaker 8: that something's up besides her using like he thinks that
Speaker 8: she's snitching it. But then that's why I don't like
Speaker 8: this whole snitching storyline, because that's a very easy trope
Speaker 8: to play on you see it, damn there and every
Speaker 8: show that got something to do with the police.
Speaker 4: So I don't like it.
Speaker 8: But I think that he thinks that something is up
Speaker 8: as far as here talking to the police.
Speaker 4: You agree with that name.
Speaker 6: I don't know if at a BC knows, but I
Speaker 6: feel like Bishop does because Bishop was with her that night.
Speaker 6: So I always want, like I wonder, like like because
Speaker 6: I honestly initially thought that he was the second part
Speaker 6: of pulling up when she got pulled over. Before I
Speaker 6: realized that that was another cop car, I thought Bishop
Speaker 6: was somewhere around, So I think Bishop may have an inkling.
Speaker 3: Of what's going on. But I will say that, like,
Speaker 3: I really like A to BC in this role.
Speaker 6: I do like, as much as I agree with you,
Speaker 6: I feel like every show that has to do with
Speaker 6: cops or drugs this is an angle at some point
Speaker 6: in time. So while yeah, it makes sense, I do
Speaker 6: feel like it's done, but I feel like the acting
Speaker 6: is so strong that even though I'm annoyed by the
Speaker 6: clicheness of it all, it's still tense. So I think
Speaker 6: everybody Marshawn Lynch like, I feel like the characters in
Speaker 6: this whole little proof they have is strong enough to
Speaker 6: pull it off to it still entertainment.
Speaker 5: To add on to that, uh, Today's point Rod Like,
Speaker 5: I love the scene where at A. B C like
Speaker 5: he the only one really talking to rule. Everybody else
Speaker 5: still playing poker. Marshawn is smoking the blunt. Bishop just
Speaker 5: want to know if he won the hand because it's
Speaker 5: basically him. But Adam b C is like literally looking
Speaker 5: at her like like as bishop saying like something to him.
Speaker 5: He was like, man, shut the fuck up, nigga. He
Speaker 5: like he really talking to Rule. And I love the
Speaker 5: acting in the in the scene. I wanted to get
Speaker 5: you just your thoughts on that poker scene. And do
Speaker 5: you think Alamo will be the one that finds out
Speaker 5: Rule Central will be somebody else?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Oh, I kind of have the idea that maybe maybe
Speaker 7: as in it to a certain degree, like to take
Speaker 7: Laurie outch So so maybe, you know, maybe maybe that
Speaker 7: might be a way that he you know, because you
Speaker 7: don't want to you don't want to be an actual snitch,
Speaker 7: so he'll let He'll make Ruby a snitch because it's
Speaker 7: just like.
Speaker 3: How to him. I don't know. It just seemed random
Speaker 3: that they pulled her over.
Speaker 4: They've been watching her.
Speaker 3: It seems real.
Speaker 4: Laurie on the investigation, So that's why I agree with Spike. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because remember they showed she was walking into somewhere and
Speaker 4: they showed the perspective of somebody in the car watching her.
Speaker 4: So at the time we thought it was we thought
Speaker 4: it was either Laurie or Alamo, but I actually now
Speaker 4: I think it was the cops.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: I don't think Alamo would risk uh her getting turned
Speaker 4: in because he doesn't know what she might tell me.
Speaker 4: Adams on the Alamo he always name I didn't do
Speaker 4: it this time, that was that wash. He's responsible for
Speaker 4: multiple murders at this point, so I don't think he
Speaker 4: would take that risk.
Speaker 3: Unless they off his payroll.
Speaker 6: Because why is that the night that they caught her
Speaker 6: like she unless she was leaving Laurie's why like why
Speaker 6: and asked Ruth to do that? He said he was
Speaker 6: sending Rude to do the pick up. Lauri wasn't even
Speaker 6: anticipating that.
Speaker 4: Why Well, because because they were watching Rude. I think
Speaker 4: it would be weird if so. The writing so far
Speaker 4: of this season hasn't been great, So if they did
Speaker 4: write in that that Alamo did this but he got
Speaker 4: away with it because he's paying the cops off, I
Speaker 4: think that would be a little convoluted and I wouldn't
Speaker 4: like it. No, Yeah, it's not crazy, It's not a
Speaker 4: crazy thought. Was what was your thoughts on this scene? Mike?
Speaker 4: I'm sorry I was stuck on that that part that
Speaker 4: Rob was talking about. What scene exactly? The poker scene.
Speaker 4: The poker scene oh so nah, this scene was good.
Speaker 4: I definitely thought he knew. I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 4: she done gave everything away. I'm assuming she had the
Speaker 4: phone in the fanny pack, and I just assumed in
Speaker 4: that moment he figured out what was going on. But
Speaker 4: then when he kind of changed it to oh are
Speaker 4: you using, I was like, Okay, cool, she's She's fine
Speaker 4: for right now, but not the whole scene, from the
Speaker 4: from the interrogation with the police. I agree with Nay.
Speaker 4: I think Zendaya killed this fucking scene because that's probably
Speaker 4: how I would lie if I was busted doing some
Speaker 4: shit and a cop caught me. I'm not a good liar,
Speaker 4: so I would fucking I would freeze up too. But
Speaker 4: her being in front of Alamo, she just has the
Speaker 4: same childish I just got busted doing some ship I'm
Speaker 4: not supposed to be doing. Look and it's so fucking good.
Speaker 4: But I don't know anything about Marshawn Lynch. I know
Speaker 4: who he is, of course, I don't know if he's
Speaker 4: like a real actor, but he's doing so well in
Speaker 4: this scene. He's okay.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's just him.
Speaker 4: It's just it's just him, Okay, But get he's getting
Speaker 4: rolls good to him. He's funny. I'll take it. I'll
Speaker 4: take it. He's funny. But no, this is a really, really,
Speaker 4: really good scene.
Speaker 11: I think the guy from Power did a good job
Speaker 11: in this scene too.
Speaker 1: Bishop. Who was that.
Speaker 4: Bishop?
Speaker 1: Remember?
Speaker 11: I remember.
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 2: Remember that coming man.
Speaker 4: Name was Droopy? Is it with? He was in the
Speaker 4: first season of Power Man. He was in the first
Speaker 4: season of Power.
Speaker 1: I don't want to take nick to push it back.
Speaker 4: Yo, were terror original.
Speaker 1: A little bit.
Speaker 4: Greats? I'm like.
Speaker 5: Fool but but yeah, but then now he was ghost
Speaker 5: killed him on accident.
Speaker 4: Spoiler alert is spoiler alert.
Speaker 11: And he was the first.
Speaker 4: But you got that look in your eye and.
Speaker 2: He lost the poker again. Can't say you don't he.
Speaker 4: Was hot. You said this ship and you played this
Speaker 4: way the whole time.
Speaker 8: I think he's gonna get another big role after this.
Speaker 8: He knowing his body in this ship?
Speaker 1: Is he is?
Speaker 5: We see again we when we were getting rude to
Speaker 5: show us how the wire works, she was in the
Speaker 5: room with at a BC big Eddie and there was
Speaker 5: a yeah, there was a kitty who we got introduced to.
Speaker 5: Who's the you know in the title of this episode,
Speaker 5: And then we see how Alamo gets acquainted with his
Speaker 5: new you know, employees.
Speaker 2: Do y'all think that he do that for all the girls.
Speaker 5: Like he sleep with every single one of them testing
Speaker 5: the product?
Speaker 4: That's right? Why wouldn't you.
Speaker 2: I didn't know he do that with like on rip,
Speaker 2: I didn't think he.
Speaker 5: I thought it would be more like his the girls
Speaker 5: that he's like had for a while, Like those are
Speaker 5: the ones he makes it like doing it early?
Speaker 1: Is it was?
Speaker 4: You and chefs don't taste their cooking before they put
Speaker 4: it on the men unit. I'm just saying, bro, you
Speaker 4: think Carme wasn't testing all of the you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We watched the.
Speaker 4: Seasons, Bro, you got a miche one star nick.
Speaker 7: You think you don't know what the food tastes like?
Speaker 4: I believe you ain't got nothing to say out what
Speaker 4: you're saying that. I'm sorry you were saying something I said.
Speaker 6: Y'all preparing women the rice and pussy, the paprika.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was, I mean.
Speaker 4: It was it was.
Speaker 5: It was because this is the fun up side of
Speaker 5: what I believe they're trying to show with sex work
Speaker 5: is where we were kind of get to like this is
Speaker 5: how you get initiated and then this is what you're
Speaker 5: pretty much asked to do, especially when you go to
Speaker 5: the room with the with the bull on the bull's
Speaker 5: head on the on the wall and ship got a
Speaker 5: camera in it, to the point where Kitty was like, well,
Speaker 5: she was traumatized on her first day.
Speaker 4: This was like training day for hers.
Speaker 5: What did y'all think of because, like you mentioned, lou
Speaker 5: Rue is becoming very more sensitive to these girls and
Speaker 5: how they're being treated, especially when she was watching it.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, What did you think? Does
Speaker 5: she make a mistake for approaching her in the bathroom?
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 8: I mean this this is the environment that you work in,
Speaker 8: and you don't she try to look under the stall
Speaker 8: and she was the girl there when she lifted her
Speaker 8: feet up. But I don't feel like how ru would
Speaker 8: have been able to help her if she hadn't had
Speaker 8: an answer?
Speaker 4: Yes, So like while is.
Speaker 8: She asking her that other than just being of course concerned,
Speaker 8: but just putting herself in a bad position, Like even
Speaker 8: even if that girl wasn't in the stall, the kiddie
Speaker 8: chick would have went back and told on her then
Speaker 8: what it was putting yourself? But I'm saying, you don't
Speaker 8: know that if you route, you don't just put yourself
Speaker 8: in a bad situation. If you going asking her this
Speaker 8: and like, it's just there's no need for you to
Speaker 8: do that. You've already accepted the fact that you worked there,
Speaker 8: like turning the blind as part of the job.
Speaker 1: Question. I have two questions, I said.
Speaker 10: The first question is was she asking Okay, wait, let
Speaker 10: me ask the first one.
Speaker 1: Let me reverse the questions.
Speaker 10: Was grew upset by what she did because she gave
Speaker 10: her uh pills that were fake that didn't work, and
Speaker 10: that she wasn't like like she was.
Speaker 3: They were still they were still using the actual drugs.
Speaker 6: She was concerned because she saw that the stash was
Speaker 6: running law and she knew they were about.
Speaker 3: To have to go to use.
Speaker 6: Okay, she got the fake so the girl was really high.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, cool.
Speaker 10: Second question, because that was she asking that question in
Speaker 10: order to get evidence for the FED.
Speaker 11: Now that she was checking in Okay, all right, cool, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 11: that's not.
Speaker 3: Gonna help that.
Speaker 6: That's not the defans are looking for defense are looking
Speaker 6: for LORI or another distributor. So I think that that's
Speaker 6: just the nature ru I think Ruth hasn't really fully
Speaker 6: accepted until this point who she's actually working for. Like
Speaker 6: she I think she still thinks that Angel is at
Speaker 6: a rehab center, right, so she's starting to realize. I
Speaker 6: think she's slowly starting to realize when they said that
Speaker 6: Angel left and nobody can find her, like she's starting
Speaker 6: to kind of realize that this is not really what
Speaker 6: she thinks it is. So I think that she saw
Speaker 6: what was going on, and I think that started on
Speaker 6: her rooms. Still a girl at the end of the day,
Speaker 6: she's still like like in young a young, naive girl
Speaker 6: who doesn't realize that she's really working with the devil.
Speaker 6: So when she saw Kitty doing what she was doing
Speaker 6: in there, she like, damn, this is really a whole house,
Speaker 6: Like it's really like, that's really.
Speaker 3: What this is.
Speaker 2: You took this, you took that same kind of takeaway
Speaker 2: when they were saying.
Speaker 4: Mike, yes, yeah. Ruis finally realizing that she went from
Speaker 4: bad to wor maybe not bad to words, but bad
Speaker 4: to bad. She's realizing she assisted in one woman getting killed,
Speaker 4: now she assisted in another woman getting disappeared, and she's
Speaker 4: she feels bad and plus, I mean, nobody wants to
Speaker 4: watch even if you can't classify this as you know,
Speaker 4: quote unquote traditional sexual assault. Nobody wants to sit there
Speaker 4: and watch that. Like Ru was staring at that like
Speaker 4: it was a fucking horror movie, you know, And I
Speaker 4: don't want to see shit like this either. But it
Speaker 4: was uncomfortable as hell, and it went on for a
Speaker 4: long fucking time. So I think Ru was genuinely disturbed
Speaker 4: by what she was seeing, especially all the bro of
Speaker 4: you know, slapping each other's ass like it's a fucking
Speaker 4: football game. It was gross. So yeah, Now, the whole
Speaker 4: question that Ken asked, I didn't think of that if
Speaker 4: she was really high or not, are we sure she was?
Speaker 4: Name makes a good case for why, like Rue was
Speaker 4: worried of like she kept looking at the safe from
Speaker 4: where she put.
Speaker 2: Her faintnie pack in that had the drugs.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, I did think, I did
Speaker 5: think that she took the candy drugs or the fake drugs,
Speaker 5: and that's why she was just so distraught after everything,
Speaker 5: because she was like, Nick, I just got fucked in
Speaker 5: a thousand ways and I felt everything.
Speaker 4: I wasn't supposed to feel it. No, But I think
Speaker 4: now that she said it, now that you recaptain Nick.
Speaker 4: I think Nay is right. The fake drugs were in
Speaker 4: the safe in her fanny pack. Got yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think the girl, look that Brice girl.
Speaker 3: I think she's going a good drug too.
Speaker 4: She's the job of getting nurse.
Speaker 5: I was gonna ask you, Rod, do you find the
Speaker 5: neck brace girl annoying or like, was you upset when
Speaker 5: she snitched?
Speaker 7: I mean not necessarily. I mean we don't know much
Speaker 7: about her, you know what I'm saying. And I think
Speaker 7: anything can go on those clubs. I actually like Angel.
Speaker 7: I feel like they got really angel to quick.
Speaker 3: But but no, I didn't.
Speaker 7: Have an issue with that. It wasn't annoying. I mean
Speaker 7: any like I said, anything can go on those clubs.
Speaker 7: Nobody trust, nobody like. So it's just I mean, we
Speaker 7: all saw down in the valley, the Valley.
Speaker 3: We know how these things can go.
Speaker 5: They're coming back this year, right, I don't know at
Speaker 5: this point they all moved on to different things.
Speaker 6: Really. I think that's what I thought I saw. They
Speaker 6: were supposed to be coming out Thirst supposed to come
Speaker 6: out this year.
Speaker 3: I didn't care about the second sear.
Speaker 5: But right going into that, well we do see what
Speaker 5: she told Big Eddie and like that kind of confrontation.
Speaker 5: What did you think about how that scene played out?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I talked about that earlier. I did like that.
Speaker 3: I like how.
Speaker 4: How Eddie Eddie's Yeah, yeah, Kaden, No, this.
Speaker 7: This part was really tense, really tense because we know
Speaker 7: what was really gonna happen, and I like when that's
Speaker 7: what I was saying earlier when the DA called, It's like, look,
Speaker 7: they were in there talking about you, so you need
Speaker 7: to go in there and make up something about her
Speaker 7: or whatever. So I did like how that whole thing
Speaker 7: was executed, in the back and forth between them and whatnot.
Speaker 7: So yeah, no, I really liked this and obviously what
Speaker 7: led up to it afterwards?
Speaker 4: What about your dame? What? What?
Speaker 3: What are you asking specifically.
Speaker 5: What afterwards like after being kind of looking like she
Speaker 5: got caught and she and the d like to ross
Speaker 5: point had to call her in like to phone a friend,
Speaker 5: how things escalate afterwards was probably like one of the
Speaker 5: other highlights of this episode.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, it was I think that.
Speaker 6: So, yes, there was some tension when with is Rue
Speaker 6: gonna get caught?
Speaker 3: Is room not?
Speaker 6: But that's part of what I think it's gonna annoy
Speaker 6: me about this whole snitch story, like we're gonna keep
Speaker 6: doing this cat and mouse and how long are we
Speaker 6: gonna be doing that? But I did like the like
Speaker 6: the whole the robbery aspects and did they take the
Speaker 6: Fannie pat because it's almost it seemed like essentially what
Speaker 6: Rue was concerned about got hit. It's like the twist
Speaker 6: of luck and it got handled for her and she
Speaker 6: doesn't have to worry about them giving out fake drugs
Speaker 6: and having that and having at a BCB figuring out
Speaker 6: like trying to figure out where the fake drugs came from.
Speaker 6: So it worked out in Ruth's favor, but also traumatized
Speaker 6: her in the in the intrum because she got blood
Speaker 6: all over her face and watch the boy get shot.
Speaker 4: Hey, Mike, he got shot right.
Speaker 15: Inst he got shot right in this stomach. Boy, he
Speaker 15: bleed out chocolate milk spread made this.
Speaker 4: Fit as it used to be. Boy, we all it'll
Speaker 4: happen to you too. Hey, Listen, this happened to be down.
Speaker 2: That's why that's why I'm laugh for that, because that's
Speaker 2: what happened to be.
Speaker 5: But uh, but no, I was like because Mike, uh
Speaker 5: earlier we see the we see Lori's funeral with the bird,
Speaker 5: and then the henchmen are like, what we're gonna do
Speaker 5: to retaliate? He was like, should we kill on me?
Speaker 5: He was like, that's not gonna hurt enough. And that's
Speaker 5: what you know when white people talking like that, especially
Speaker 5: if they Nazis or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's rapping.
Speaker 5: So were you surprised that they went in the way
Speaker 5: they did because I thought there was gonna take out
Speaker 5: the bouncer first and just have a massacre.
Speaker 4: I really liked this scene, but at the same time,
Speaker 4: some of the logistics were annoying me a little bit.
Speaker 4: But it wasn't a huge deal. But I mean, I've
Speaker 4: heard gunshots before. You're gonna hear that over music. I
Speaker 4: don't care how loud the music is. But was I
Speaker 4: surprised that they went in there like that? Absolutely not.
Speaker 4: They're fucking racist, crazy ass rednecks. That's exactly what they
Speaker 4: would do. I was, If anything, I don't think Laurie
Speaker 4: had anything to do with this, really, not at all,
Speaker 4: Just like I didn't think Laurie had anything to do
Speaker 4: with the drugs being fucked up. I think this is
Speaker 4: all her dumb ass people they're just goofy, fucking stupid
Speaker 4: ass rednecks. So I think that they just did this
Speaker 4: shit on their own, because this wasn't even a good plan.
Speaker 4: Like really, at any moment they should have got busted.
Speaker 4: All anyone had to do was turn around and look,
Speaker 4: and they would have got busted. They just got lucky.
Speaker 4: Laurie's not this stupid, no matter how much y'all don't
Speaker 4: like her. Laurie's not this dumb.
Speaker 11: So yeah, when you say busted, way you mean, well, they.
Speaker 4: Showed a part where the women were dancing on stage
Speaker 4: and their office is right there with the with the
Speaker 4: with the the sea through window or whatever. I think
Speaker 4: that was my annoyance with it.
Speaker 8: So he didn't have a lot of security because even
Speaker 8: if they had turned around, the girls was just gonna run.
Speaker 8: Like I was looking for the other men with guns
Speaker 8: on his side, like where was everybody at? It was
Speaker 8: one dude at the door and Kadem Harrison Like that
Speaker 8: was it. And I understand, it's a club way out
Speaker 8: in the middle of nowhere in LA usually don't expect this,
Speaker 8: but you still want to protect your product. I feel
Speaker 8: like and it would have it should have been more
Speaker 8: than one security guard. I thought there, Uh, that was
Speaker 8: the thing that bother me about it. But I agree
Speaker 8: with Mike in the sense, I don't think lord shit
Speaker 8: about this. It's just Jay redneck ass is going out
Speaker 8: here and do this, especially she not signing off on
Speaker 8: the plane if.
Speaker 4: You got lips driving.
Speaker 1: So I know what.
Speaker 4: I know that.
Speaker 7: They can see inside the office. I know they can
Speaker 7: see out. Maybe they can see inside. Before they could
Speaker 7: see it.
Speaker 4: Even if they could, what were they gonna do? Scream
Speaker 4: at least? And if they screamed, then you got Marshall
Speaker 4: Lynch and you got Yeah, at least I thought they
Speaker 4: weren't there because they was Collin trying to get information.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I mean, anyway it goes. I just
Speaker 4: thought this was a stupid ass plan. But I think arrogant.
Speaker 4: Oh what'd you say?
Speaker 6: I would believe that they would have a stupid ass plan. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm just surprised that it worked.
Speaker 4: Yes, it only wants because Alamo's arrogant and doesn't have security.
Speaker 5: They can To Rise's point, were you surprised only Kadeen
Speaker 5: got shot?
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 10: I thought he was gonna shoot the dispandish it, you know,
Speaker 10: instead of instead of ru like they tend to do
Speaker 10: in the movies, you know, and Joe's you know, make
Speaker 10: us think the main characters in trouble shoot somebody else.
Speaker 10: But yeah, I think they realized that he really didn't
Speaker 10: give a funk about them, so they just went with
Speaker 10: shooting him and trying to hurt him as as much
Speaker 10: as possible in the way that he'll still be able
Speaker 10: to tell. But yeah, but their fight was hilarious because
Speaker 10: she was like, I can't understand the ship she's saying.
Speaker 1: But I heard Rappa and I heard pooka ship. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I was, but is he gonna live?
Speaker 10: That's the question, because that's that's a gut shot, bro,
Speaker 10: And and.
Speaker 4: He got a lot of.
Speaker 2: She was squeezing it like it was.
Speaker 4: I was like, she couldn't find the whole nick she
Speaker 4: couldn't talk it was a bullet hole. Or his belly
Speaker 4: button is soft.
Speaker 5: That's a bag of be Co bean the sixty.
Speaker 6: So no, y'all don't like.
Speaker 4: That is crazy?
Speaker 16: Where did you get that from? I'm trying to eat.
Speaker 16: I'm trying to eat healthy.
Speaker 15: I need I'll eat it moregies lately. But hey, listen,
Speaker 15: you could have been a good sauce.
Speaker 5: Listen, I'm trying to tell you, but it was like
Speaker 5: I think he branded granted that they didn't kill him off,
Speaker 5: like he didn't do that pass out death kind of thing.
Speaker 5: Like I was, you know, if the police or if
Speaker 5: the ambulance got here, maybe thirty minutes earlier, I could
Speaker 5: have survived.
Speaker 2: But I do think he ain't gonna survive next y.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna kill him.
Speaker 2: Really because he got the ships throw Yeah.
Speaker 8: I feel like yeah, yeah, I feel like it was
Speaker 8: up for a contract in the sense of if anybody
Speaker 8: get in this safe, you not so like.
Speaker 11: Yeah, he gonna kill him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my favorite. I don't know why, like when they
Speaker 1: were like kiss my white ass.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I didn't even think about it like that because
Speaker 17: I'm thinking and correct me if I'm wrong, Like Alimo
Speaker 17: will be just more upset and focus on getting back
Speaker 17: at LORI, not necessarily hurting like killing his guy for
Speaker 17: getting robbed, because I think that's the reason why I
Speaker 17: didn't have so much guards for security, because.
Speaker 4: It's like, who's gonna really rob us? Right?
Speaker 8: But your job, your job is making sure that this
Speaker 8: ship stay safe, and you let somebody in the safe
Speaker 8: like you gotta go, I have no use for you,
Speaker 8: and you hurt.
Speaker 4: I could see that it don't matter, like I think
Speaker 4: bikes onto something like, if your job is to protect
Speaker 4: that safe and you let this happen, then what do
Speaker 4: I have you for it? I don't think Alamo has friends,
Speaker 4: so I definitely think he would kill.
Speaker 1: Him or just let him die, or just let him.
Speaker 6: Die, she alluded to, because she was like, you know,
Speaker 6: if you don't look like he'll be all.
Speaker 3: Right, they don't.
Speaker 1: These questions.
Speaker 4: I was more surprised by Ruth's response.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because yeah, go ahead, go ahead, Mike, I was
Speaker 7: gonna bring it up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you you can't like this dude was gonna
Speaker 4: shoot me in the head. So I don't think I
Speaker 4: would give a fuck that you got shot in the stomach.
Speaker 4: And I certainly wouldn't sell out my friend or I
Speaker 4: don't know if you call him friends or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't sell out Fay for this dude that was
Speaker 4: gonna let me get shot in the head. Not So
Speaker 4: I was more surprised by that because of the countdown, right, right,
Speaker 4: that's what you're aboutright, Because he counted down like five four,
Speaker 4: and Dwayne Wade was like, go ahead, he put his
Speaker 4: glasses down.
Speaker 8: You think that do think this is going to get
Speaker 8: them to Laurie, which is why she told them lips.
Speaker 11: I think that's the reason why she did that. Give
Speaker 11: you to Lourie the police.
Speaker 4: But that's still that's still putting Fae in a position
Speaker 4: because most people I don't care.
Speaker 6: At this point because they could have the same way
Speaker 6: he and could have, Like they drove the niggas to
Speaker 6: the spot to kill me. You knew what he was doing, right,
Speaker 6: So like, if I I don't have loyalty to nobody,
Speaker 6: I'm switching off everybody at this point.
Speaker 5: If you're gonna snitch, you're gonna snitchbody.
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see, because I thought I did see.
Speaker 5: I couldn't tell if it was if it was happiness
Speaker 5: in her eyes, like oh wow, like you said, look
Speaker 5: how the things turn, like I could finally put all
Speaker 5: this shit back in Laurie's ballpark, or it was like damn,
Speaker 5: I don't want to say nothing about Faye, but she
Speaker 5: got some big ass lips.
Speaker 4: She don't bishop exactly because he was there.
Speaker 6: It gets hard back into Alamo's good graces in any
Speaker 6: concern that she might have had for him.
Speaker 3: Thinking that she's a snitch.
Speaker 6: She's kind of dispelled that now because she's given him faith.
Speaker 4: I don't even think she thought about it that deep,
Speaker 4: because it seemed like she said, oh, that's Fame real quick.
Speaker 4: It seemed like she didn't even hesitate. She's like, oh.
Speaker 10: That's fa Yeah, yeah, it's just funny, like everything else
Speaker 10: was blurry.
Speaker 1: It's up the lips.
Speaker 4: Man that should have been cracking up too. I was like,
Speaker 4: that could only be one person. Only one person got
Speaker 4: big ass fucking lips like that she was.
Speaker 1: She was hanging out the window right right.
Speaker 4: And having her as the get that's super Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: super crazy. That's either Faye.
Speaker 1: It's one of.
Speaker 6: The nobody not that basy.
Speaker 4: They are too.
Speaker 3: They are not that big. They just they just they
Speaker 3: just crossed.
Speaker 4: The only difference between him and Faye is Fay got chapstick.
Speaker 4: Or it might be chapstick. I don't know what's on
Speaker 4: her lips. Whatever she got, she need to give it
Speaker 4: to Randall stick from a chap We gotta come on, thoughts.
Speaker 4: I hope swollen swollen and nice and listening last dogs, Nick.
Speaker 8: I hope that this the snitch storyline for Rule gets
Speaker 8: like again, they're not bad because they're good actors. But
Speaker 8: I hope there's something interesting in there that we haven't
Speaker 8: seen a hundred times before. I hope that that happens.
Speaker 8: And I want to see that conversation since we talked
Speaker 8: about it. I want to see that conversation between Jewels
Speaker 8: and and let's friend and lex I want to see that.
Speaker 6: I don't care. I don't really care, so I don't
Speaker 6: really care about a conversation between Lexi and Jewels.
Speaker 3: I am curious to see.
Speaker 6: Maybe Jewels the way tools deals with the criticism and
Speaker 6: a rejection more so than her needing to iron out
Speaker 6: anything and seeing how if.
Speaker 3: This affects her artwork at all.
Speaker 6: But last thoughts is I hope, like Spike said, I think,
Speaker 6: I hope that this Snitched storyline is played out in
Speaker 6: a way that makes it continue to be entertaining.
Speaker 3: And I really want to see them do something with Nick.
Speaker 6: I think if I if I get something from the
Speaker 6: nickt storyline that makes me feel better than the show's okay,
Speaker 6: if they keep sending Nick down this road, I don't
Speaker 6: know if the rest of this is enough to make
Speaker 6: this shot good for me this season.
Speaker 4: Wait, who's Nick Nate, I'm sorry, Nick, Oh okay, got you.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The more we talked about it, the more I like,
Speaker 3: actually like the episode.
Speaker 4: Like I said, I was about to say the same
Speaker 4: exact thing, Ron Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like and I said this at the top
Speaker 3: of the show.
Speaker 7: I think because we talked about it so much last week,
Speaker 7: I was just annoy So I actually want to go
Speaker 7: back and watch the episode and see how I feel
Speaker 7: after we talked about it and see if it feels
Speaker 7: the same.
Speaker 3: And I feel like it gonna feel a little.
Speaker 7: Bit better than when I initially watched it because I
Speaker 7: was annoyed when they want to snitch route. But yeah,
Speaker 7: I think they're probably not even gonna stay on this
Speaker 7: this thing for very long, very much longer.
Speaker 3: They might do it maybe one more episode.
Speaker 7: And because it because it seemed like the trend is
Speaker 7: like and that's how it became this, and this is
Speaker 7: how it became this. So I think that's by the
Speaker 7: end of it, she's gonna be like, and that's how
Speaker 7: it became whatever, save how.
Speaker 3: The church and we're gonna get back.
Speaker 6: To the fact.
Speaker 4: That's what they're gonna do too.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: So they're gonna take her down this Road. I think
Speaker 3: they they're they're they're breaking down each character in their
Speaker 3: own way, like they breaking down Nate, they breaking down Rude,
Speaker 3: They're breaking down Cassie. They're breaking down all.
Speaker 7: Of these people just to do some sort of redemption
Speaker 7: or something towards the end.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is, but that's what it
Speaker 3: seems like.
Speaker 5: What are you looking forward to next epis so Mike
Speaker 5: wrapping up your thoughts on this one too?
Speaker 4: Well, No, it's just funny that Rod said that. The
Speaker 4: more we've talked about this, the more I think I
Speaker 4: do like the episode. It's still not as good as
Speaker 4: the last one, Yeah, but I think I do like
Speaker 4: this episode, and I think that what they're setting up
Speaker 4: is interesting because, like I said, I don't mind the
Speaker 4: snitching thing because I think they're gonna make it interesting
Speaker 4: because ru is such a fucking idiot, Like she's as
Speaker 4: bad as Pooky when it comes to being a fucking snitch.
Speaker 4: So I think that this is gonna be very, very interesting.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know what I'm looking forward
Speaker 4: to the next episode because I don't really know where
Speaker 4: they're going right now. I don't know if there's going
Speaker 4: to be an all out drug war, which I don't
Speaker 4: think I really want to see that on Euphoria. That
Speaker 4: seems a bit too crazy. But I'm somewhere in between
Speaker 4: Nay and Spike. As far as the Jewels thing, I
Speaker 4: do kind of want to see a little bit of
Speaker 4: her discussing this with Lexi, but I'm more with Nay
Speaker 4: with I want to see how she handles the rejection
Speaker 4: of finally breaking out and displaying my idea of a
Speaker 4: beautiful scene on a beach with trans people and SIST
Speaker 4: people together and then being told no. So I don't know, man,
Speaker 4: the season started off pretty bad, but I think it's
Speaker 4: it's actually started to get interesting. Hey what about your stups?
Speaker 10: Well, as I mentioned earlier, I'm concerned we have the
Speaker 10: halfway point and I would like to see and this
Speaker 10: is the last season, so what are we going to
Speaker 10: be left with when it's all said and done. How
Speaker 10: we're going to wrap this up, this old storyline and everything.
Speaker 10: So that that's where my mind was at after this
Speaker 10: the season, after this episode end there it's like, Okay,
Speaker 10: you got you added all this stuff, but I don't
Speaker 10: see where we're going with it. So yeah, I would
Speaker 10: like to see some sort of advancement and the next
Speaker 10: two episodes, so at least we'll walk away with like
Speaker 10: I don't know if we'll be completely happy with the
Speaker 10: way we were with the first two seasons, but at
Speaker 10: least we'll get a solid conclusion to the story.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, make sorry real quick, Nick. When I was
Speaker 4: when I was going back and rewatching bits and pieces
Speaker 4: to prove Spike wrong, did y'all notice when when Cassie
Speaker 4: and Maddie were getting in the car there were two
Speaker 4: little girls like you saw that, Spike. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 4: notice that. I thought that was watching them, Yeah, watching
Speaker 4: them do this ship. So I think it was trying to, like,
Speaker 4: you know, get this idea of perpetuating like a cycle,
Speaker 4: like these little girls are seeing these women do this,
Speaker 4: so then they're going to end the same thing.
Speaker 11: I thought that was the time. I thought they were
Speaker 11: very subtle and very clever.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 18: But yeah, anyway, sorry, Nick, go ahead, No, no, no, you're fine,
Speaker 18: I think because I've been listening to a lot of
Speaker 18: other reviews about this show, and they just really are
Speaker 18: shitting on it because what you said, it's not what it.
Speaker 4: Used to be. Like you say, y'all do cheating is cheating.
Speaker 4: I got listen. I do my own research loop.
Speaker 5: But all I'm saying is that what I what in
Speaker 5: comparison if you want me to see, let you know
Speaker 5: why I listen to them in comparison to us and
Speaker 5: seeing like if we're missing anything, But overall we talk
Speaker 5: about it in a way where we are still enjoying
Speaker 5: the episode. Like Rod and Mike just pivoted on their
Speaker 5: initial thoughts. Others I feel like I just hate watching
Speaker 5: like because it's just popular, we're just reviewing it, but
Speaker 5: outside of that, we're gonna bash it because this is
Speaker 5: what it ain't.
Speaker 4: This is what I don't understand. Why is this charactering this.
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, we can do that every single episode,
Speaker 5: But to me, it's just like if I'm going to
Speaker 5: watch it, here's when I'm pulling from that I actually enjoy,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 8: I understand that, Nick. I feel like a lot of
Speaker 8: that is rooted in the hate for the same yeah.
Speaker 2: Which is like if you ain't, then don't watch it.
Speaker 4: Then that's my thing.
Speaker 5: It's like, if you really hate this dude that much,
Speaker 5: why is covering it terrible TV?
Speaker 8: Like you like, I'm not watching this like Oh my god.
Speaker 8: I think a lot of it that I'm hearing because
Speaker 8: I'm a couple of podcasts that I listened to they
Speaker 8: cover it briefly, and a lot of it's.
Speaker 4: Just they just don't like to make the person makes it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's what bothers me as a listener. But overall,
Speaker 5: I'm I'm locked in. I think because I have hope
Speaker 5: that they will get to the ships because they got
Speaker 5: to the wedding pretty quickly in the season, and we
Speaker 5: thought that they were going to drag that out and
Speaker 5: Herb and Rue getting arrested in that same episode as like, okay,
Speaker 5: they're pushing things forward.
Speaker 2: So with Dwayne Way getting shot and Rue.
Speaker 5: Borderline getting caught as a snitch for the next episode
Speaker 5: and we might.
Speaker 2: Get a civil drug war.
Speaker 5: Like, I think that that's keeping me excited about the
Speaker 5: next two seasons or the next few episodes. I don't
Speaker 5: think this is the last season though, Ken. I think
Speaker 5: they's a contract. I think they got a contract for
Speaker 5: like another season. No, they got their legally contracted. They
Speaker 5: signed these contracts.
Speaker 4: Early, lou like they gotta do it.
Speaker 8: They're gonna have to bring on all new people, and
Speaker 8: I couldn't after Dune come out day.
Speaker 4: It's not even like looking this way, that's her fault,
Speaker 4: Like you said, she that's her agent. You locked in.
Speaker 5: You locked in because if Spider Man, if another Spider
Speaker 5: Man come out, she and that motherfucker too.
Speaker 4: She and Spider Man coming out, and she's she's in.
Speaker 5: She's in four major things, like she already had the
Speaker 5: Drama come out, which was start off the year hot.
Speaker 5: She's got Dune, Spider Man, and also, uh, there's one
Speaker 5: more thing.
Speaker 4: Fuck I forgot what it was.
Speaker 2: But she's like all the biggest She's like, she's in
Speaker 2: Odyssey as well, Like that's big.
Speaker 4: Those are the four biggest movies of the year. I
Speaker 4: think HBO is planning on it, but it's not gonna
Speaker 4: happen because the season is getting kitted on too hard.
Speaker 4: They go into here, they're gonna they're gonna have to
Speaker 4: because it's not hot the way it used.
Speaker 11: To be no more.
Speaker 5: But but you think that no one would still tune
Speaker 5: in If you're saying Zendia, Jacob whatever his name is,
Speaker 5: sidneys are all starting in the show that.
Speaker 8: We all used to love. You already got people that's
Speaker 8: tuning out. You got people that ain't watching it this season.
Speaker 8: Is that already gave are the viewers? Is that viewership dropping?
Speaker 8: It's it's the same thing that we talked about yesterday.
Speaker 8: When they take so long to get back to it,
Speaker 8: people just be like, man, fuck it.
Speaker 11: Like it's going down the first time. It's not as popular.
Speaker 8: It's not as popular, I don't think as it was
Speaker 8: when it was first out.
Speaker 4: If people hate watching it, as long as they got
Speaker 4: those viewership numbers, they'll they'll bring this ship back.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: I think like it's the viewership is.
Speaker 10: Up record breaking start season three debuts or fast season
Speaker 10: too by forty four.
Speaker 11: Oh, if it's up fifty percent, I can see that.
Speaker 4: I think Spike, you have a point that it's going
Speaker 4: to be more an issue of bringing back the actors
Speaker 4: because Zinday it's not gonna want to do this shit again.
Speaker 4: I think Nate's not gonna want to do this shit again.
Speaker 4: Cidy Sweeny will do it until she's eighty because she
Speaker 4: ain't got shit else happening. But the rest of them,
Speaker 4: I don't think they want to come back for this.
Speaker 6: I feel like they need to get They would need
Speaker 6: to get rid of Levinson in order to make this work,
Speaker 6: and I don't.
Speaker 1: Know how that's.
Speaker 4: Direct. Oh Nat die, I agree with you. Spike, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 1: They gonna die.
Speaker 4: Mhm, yes, thank you. We'll see.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 5: Those are our thoughts on this episode. Please let us
Speaker 5: know what you guys think. FPS podcast is our Reddit thread.
Speaker 5: That's also our handle for I G and Twitter, and
Speaker 5: we'll catch you next week.
Speaker 4: Be out peace,