WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Show - Taylor Tannebaum Interview 0:00:00.070 --> 0:00:02.730 But right now, we're going to talk matchups. We're going 0:00:02.750 --> 0:00:05.670 to talk ACC football. But we're also going to talk 0:00:05.710 --> 0:00:09.619 about those first playoff standings, rankings not being kind to 0:00:09.660 --> 0:00:10.520 Wake Forest and. 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:12.860 Therefore the ACC. 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:17.800 Taylor Tannenbaum, ACC Network, the hostess with the mostess, is 0:00:17.860 --> 0:00:20.459 with us to talk all things ACC right now. 0:00:20.540 --> 0:00:22.060 Taylor, what's going on? How you doing? 0:00:22.980 --> 0:00:25.080 Always great to be with you, friends. I'm good. I'm 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:28.460 putting my final touches on my packing because we are 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:32.479 heading to Syracuse, New York. So that's a drive from 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:37.409 my stomping grounds here in Connecticut. 0:00:37.450 --> 0:00:41.629 That's an intriguing game with the way Syracuse has played 0:00:41.650 --> 0:00:45.090 the last two weeks. Clemson finally got offense going last week. 0:00:45.110 --> 0:00:47.840 That's kind of interesting, that game. It's not snowing there yet, 0:00:47.900 --> 0:00:48.100 is it? 0:00:49.900 --> 0:00:53.159 No, but it's rainy and cold, so you know it 0:00:53.580 --> 0:00:56.040 could potentially happen. It could snow because we're rolling into 0:00:56.060 --> 0:01:02.640 town naturally. It is somewhat intriguing, you guys, because... Clemson, 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:05.459 for one, is not fully out of the ACC championship 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.559 race by any stretch because of the way things have 0:01:07.580 --> 0:01:11.240 been going in the league, and they looked competent offensively 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:12.520 last week. I'm not going to say it was their 0:01:12.540 --> 0:01:16.190 greatest performance, but you did have Tate Reynolds looking like 0:01:16.330 --> 0:01:18.970 a more mature quarterback in his sixth start and running 0:01:18.990 --> 0:01:21.830 the offense a little bit better. And then you have 0:01:21.870 --> 0:01:24.309 a Syracuse team that's confident, right? They've won two straight, 0:01:24.370 --> 0:01:27.810 and there's this little bromance between Fran Brown and Davos 0:01:27.830 --> 0:01:30.789 Sweeney over the years from a few years ago and 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.720 Syracuse knocked off Miami in that regular season finale, which 0:01:34.780 --> 0:01:37.800 ultimately sent Clemson to the ACC championship game and then 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.819 the college football playoff. And last year, Syracuse going to 0:01:41.900 --> 0:01:44.580 Death Valley and beating Clemson there. That's when they lost 0:01:44.620 --> 0:01:47.680 their quarterback, Stephen Jelly, to that Achilles injury. And both 0:01:47.700 --> 0:01:50.880 have been very complimentary of each other. So a pivotal point, 0:01:50.900 --> 0:01:53.300 it feels like, for both programs. For Syracuse, it's about 0:01:53.380 --> 0:01:56.980 bowl eligibility at this point. And for Clemson, it's how 0:01:57.030 --> 0:01:59.510 are you going to close out this season that did 0:01:59.750 --> 0:02:01.910 not start or has looked the way that we thought 0:02:01.930 --> 0:02:02.190 it would. 0:02:02.470 --> 0:02:05.260 Syracuse, such a different team, and the numbers bear out too, 0:02:05.300 --> 0:02:08.640 Mac and Taylor, with Angele versus without them. So it 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:14.020 makes a much more difficult matchup for Clemson tomorrow. ACC Network, 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:17.760 check out Taylor and the gang. all their coverage there. Taylor, 0:02:17.900 --> 0:02:21.030 we know here and you know from what you do 0:02:21.060 --> 0:02:24.910 day in, day out, how good Wake Forest is. But 0:02:24.950 --> 0:02:28.850 it's not shocking to us that maybe nationally and committee-wise 0:02:28.889 --> 0:02:31.850 they were disrespected. It doesn't mean it's not annoying, but 0:02:31.889 --> 0:02:34.410 it's not shocking to us. What's your take on Wake 0:02:34.450 --> 0:02:37.380 Forest in the initial playoff rankings based on their level 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:39.760 of dominance lately that they came in at No. 0:02:39.740 --> 0:02:41.260 16? 0:02:41.260 --> 0:02:45.610 I'm really disappointed. Again, like you just said, I'm not shocked, 0:02:45.730 --> 0:02:48.370 but I'm really disappointed if you've watched football at all. 0:02:49.590 --> 0:02:51.290 And even if you look at their record, their only 0:02:51.310 --> 0:02:53.430 loss is quite literally to the number one team in 0:02:53.450 --> 0:02:57.620 the country. You would recognize that that's a top 10 team. 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:00.200 My biggest thing is, look, I'm not going to blow 0:03:00.220 --> 0:03:03.440 it out of proportion, despite what my mind is telling 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:07.410 me after release of week one, okay? Because... they do 0:03:07.450 --> 0:03:09.829 still have quote unquote opportunity ahead of them, which is 0:03:09.870 --> 0:03:12.550 simply just winning out and continuing to play the way 0:03:12.570 --> 0:03:15.090 they are at the level they are. But my biggest 0:03:15.169 --> 0:03:18.750 issue is the disparity and the lack of clarity from 0:03:19.370 --> 0:03:23.290 the committee. It's obvious they're valuing wins and ranked wins. 0:03:23.350 --> 0:03:26.590 And that's why the SEC has as many teams in 0:03:26.610 --> 0:03:28.430 there as they do. And as many in the top 0:03:28.430 --> 0:03:30.970 12 as they do, despite several of them having two losses. 0:03:31.850 --> 0:03:35.430 But it's, To me, why is Wake 16 in, like, say, 0:03:35.500 --> 0:03:38.810 Indiana is four, or even a Notre Dame at 11? 0:03:38.810 --> 0:03:41.490 None of those have a ranked win on their schedule. 0:03:42.950 --> 0:03:46.830 The metrics essentially align Indiana and Wake Forest. The eye 0:03:46.850 --> 0:03:49.350 test would tell you Wake Forest is playing, especially in 0:03:49.390 --> 0:03:52.610 the last month, significantly better than Indiana. And credit where 0:03:52.630 --> 0:03:55.530 credit is due, the Hoosiers are the reigning national champions, 0:03:55.550 --> 0:03:59.540 but that was last year. This is this year. So 0:03:59.580 --> 0:04:01.820 to me, it's not necessarily I'm going to complain about 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.560 where Wake is ranked. I don't think they're 16. I 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:06.860 think they should be a top 10, at least 12 team. 0:04:07.220 --> 0:04:08.780 But to me, it's the disparity and the lack of 0:04:08.820 --> 0:04:12.380 clarity from the committee in why. And to me, when 0:04:12.430 --> 0:04:14.350 you boil it down, the only reason would be is because, 0:04:14.430 --> 0:04:16.529 quote unquote, they play in the ACC, which is a 0:04:16.570 --> 0:04:20.330 perceived lesser conference. When we're also in the same breath, 0:04:20.350 --> 0:04:24.060 having the same conversation. that there's more parody in the 0:04:24.100 --> 0:04:26.580 country than ever before, but this league's not getting that 0:04:26.620 --> 0:04:28.500 benefit of the doubt. Instead, the league is just not 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.810 good when it could just be that everyone is beating 0:04:31.850 --> 0:04:34.390 up on each other, like other leagues. So that's my, 0:04:34.589 --> 0:04:36.729 my short spiel. I have the numbers to back it up, 0:04:36.810 --> 0:04:41.300 but hopefully they can continue to win. We'll see what 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.920 the status is of their quarterback, Gio Lopez, because he 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:49.060 did definitely injure that knee last game. So we'll continue 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:49.740 to monitor that. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:51.500 Luckily, they have the Mary Mac game. 0:04:51.540 --> 0:04:54.930 No disrespect to Mary Mac, but I'm just being real, 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:57.450 Mary Mac. I'm being real on this one. But luckily, 0:04:57.490 --> 0:05:00.589 they have that game, but they got SMU next week. 0:05:00.750 --> 0:05:03.810 SMU's got Virginia Tech tonight in an important one. I 0:05:03.830 --> 0:05:06.030 want to follow up on what you're saying, Taylor. The 0:05:06.070 --> 0:05:10.300 thing that gets me, and I do acknowledge that the 0:05:10.339 --> 0:05:13.159 way their rankings shape up, they don't have the ranked 0:05:13.220 --> 0:05:16.680 win rate. But the thing that stinks is it seems 0:05:16.740 --> 0:05:20.420 to be apparent that they're going to have to win 0:05:20.460 --> 0:05:24.360 the ACC outright to get in, right? Like they don't 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.600 have a chance of playing Miami down to the wire, 0:05:27.050 --> 0:05:29.370 blowing everybody else out and get in. 0:05:29.550 --> 0:05:31.070 And I hate that for Deke fans. 0:05:32.190 --> 0:05:34.790 Me too. And that's sort of what they're signifying. Now, 0:05:34.810 --> 0:05:36.969 I will say there are a ton of teams in 0:05:37.010 --> 0:05:39.070 front of them that will inevitably beat up on each other, 0:05:39.089 --> 0:05:43.220 but because the committee is so evidently valuing you know, 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.260 your strength of schedule and who you beat, those are 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.740 all going to be ranked wins in the SEC because 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.880 they're putting the SEC in all of these ranked positions 0:05:51.020 --> 0:05:55.130 and not valuing anything this league has done. So yeah, 0:05:55.170 --> 0:05:58.290 that is disappointing. And again, you just kind of have 0:05:58.330 --> 0:06:00.490 to go out there and take care of your business 0:06:00.529 --> 0:06:04.430 and let everything catch fire around you, which is subject 0:06:04.589 --> 0:06:07.010 to happen. And I will say, you know, like, The 0:06:07.029 --> 0:06:09.070 rest of the league in the ACC does have to 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.860 carry its water. Like, you know, that game next week 0:06:11.900 --> 0:06:15.360 against SMU was slated to be a ranked win, and 0:06:15.460 --> 0:06:18.700 then SMU goes and loses to Syracuse. And while Syracuse 0:06:18.900 --> 0:06:21.480 is on a hotter streak, when you're at the top 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:23.969 of the league, you have to carry that water. And unfortunately, 0:06:23.990 --> 0:06:25.950 you saw like a Virginia Tech lose to a Cal 0:06:25.990 --> 0:06:28.770 or else that could have potentially been a ranked game 0:06:28.990 --> 0:06:31.750 on Friday. And you have a Louisville team whose only 0:06:31.770 --> 0:06:34.440 three losses– are by three points each. And, oh, by 0:06:34.460 --> 0:06:36.220 the way, one of them is to a top-ten team 0:06:36.260 --> 0:06:38.820 in Ole Miss, but we're not going to acknowledge that, apparently. 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.680 The State loss is the one with Louisville-Taylor where it's like, 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.539 come on, you're not helping the Con. As much as 0:06:43.980 --> 0:06:47.099 I personally wanted State to win, it's like, come on. 0:06:47.140 --> 0:06:50.430 You can't lose to NC State because that's a ranked 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:54.560 win that falls off of Wake's schedule. You know, it's 0:06:54.620 --> 0:06:56.490 all tied together. But go out, take care of your business, 0:06:56.550 --> 0:06:58.690 and hope that the rest of the country cannibalizes itself. 0:06:58.970 --> 0:07:01.070 And, Taylor, the team at the top right now, Miami, 0:07:01.089 --> 0:07:03.090 has been teetering a little bit in some of these games, 0:07:03.150 --> 0:07:05.870 and that was with Malachi, Tony. Now we find out 0:07:05.930 --> 0:07:10.830 he's out for a while here. How worried are you, 0:07:10.870 --> 0:07:12.630 not just about the Notre Dame game? Of course, that's 0:07:12.670 --> 0:07:15.710 tough with or without Tony. But the stretch run, how 0:07:15.750 --> 0:07:20.050 can Miami survive this without Tony here for the next four, five, 0:07:20.070 --> 0:07:20.490 six weeks? 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:28.679 Run the damn ball. I will say, obviously Malachi Tony 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.110 is the engine that makes this offense go, but don't 0:07:32.170 --> 0:07:35.170 forget they have a Heisman Trophy candidate at quarterback in 0:07:35.190 --> 0:07:37.410 Darian Mensah, and that just didn't pop up overnight because 0:07:37.430 --> 0:07:39.910 he got a good receiver. This has been a strong 0:07:39.930 --> 0:07:42.930 sample size from Tulane to Duke to now at Miami. 0:07:43.630 --> 0:07:46.440 And the thing is, Malachi Tony eats up so much 0:07:47.020 --> 0:07:50.720 of the catches that other people haven't had to step up. 0:07:50.740 --> 0:07:52.500 This is your chance to go shine. He has his 0:07:53.430 --> 0:07:56.130 Robin to his Batman from Duke and Cooper barking, who 0:07:56.150 --> 0:07:58.890 has really yet to break out. You've seen flashes, but 0:07:58.930 --> 0:08:01.050 they have a rapport that was built two years ago. 0:08:01.490 --> 0:08:03.310 And then you have a young guy in Galen Upshaw. 0:08:03.350 --> 0:08:06.680 You do have an elite tight end and Elijah Lofton. 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.540 So it's just incumbent on other people to find, to 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.280 finally step up and fill that void that Malachi Tony 0:08:13.300 --> 0:08:15.060 is going to leave. And you have a stable of backs. 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.780 You have Mark Fletcher. You have JV and Mallory who 0:08:17.820 --> 0:08:23.640 has really come into his own as a Shannon Dawson, 0:08:23.660 --> 0:08:25.600 the offensive coordinator, is going to call a great game 0:08:25.620 --> 0:08:27.640 like he always does. It's not like they're without weapons. 0:08:27.700 --> 0:08:31.070 I'm more concerned defensively, you guys, honestly. You know, the 0:08:31.130 --> 0:08:32.830 offense is going to do its thing. I do think 0:08:32.870 --> 0:08:35.490 it will score points, even though Notre Dame's defense is 0:08:36.010 --> 0:08:39.840 quite literally the best in the country. The defense has to... 0:08:40.390 --> 0:08:42.939 to pull its weight. Like, they can't just be allowing 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.079 30-plus points per game if they are going to survive 0:08:46.100 --> 0:08:47.600 this stretch run without a Malachi Tony. 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:48.569 Yeah, no doubt. 0:08:48.610 --> 0:08:51.190 That pass defense, you saw it last week. They made 0:08:51.210 --> 0:08:54.510 Billy Edwards look like Drake May last week. 0:08:54.990 --> 0:08:57.170 So, yeah. And the Florida State game, too. 0:08:57.250 --> 0:08:57.390 So. 0:08:57.820 --> 0:09:00.900 It's a huge game. I hate it that Tony's not playing. 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:05.219 It's such a showcase game. It does suck. I do 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:10.120 wonder how the committee, not to go back to the committee, Taylor, 0:09:10.140 --> 0:09:13.719 and get on that fun topic again, but I'm wondering 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:17.760 if they were to lose without Tony, but they then 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:22.140 lost to Wake in the ACC title game, would they 0:09:22.179 --> 0:09:23.940 get a bit of a break and definitely be in 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:26.500 the field because the loss was to Notre Dame without 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:27.360 Malachi Tony? 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:30.860 If you're going to tell me that you are going 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:34.719 to keep out Miami after watching them an entirety of 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:38.329 the season and full well knowing that he is capable 0:09:38.370 --> 0:09:41.210 of returning for a playoff and leave them out, then 0:09:41.250 --> 0:09:45.350 abolish the committee. Respectfully. But Miami, too, has to win 0:09:45.429 --> 0:09:48.050 the rest of its regular season games if by chance 0:09:48.070 --> 0:09:51.290 something goes wrong at Notre Dame. You have to acknowledge 0:09:51.330 --> 0:09:53.870 that they have other elite players on this team, including 0:09:54.010 --> 0:09:57.150 at quarterback. But it's incumbent on Miami to just not 0:09:57.190 --> 0:09:59.569 even allow the committee to be in this conversation. Yeah. 0:09:59.670 --> 0:10:01.740 No, I'm with you on that. I, and, and, and 0:10:01.770 --> 0:10:04.180 you're running the damn ball comment. Like I do kind 0:10:04.220 --> 0:10:06.760 of wonder, not that like Mensa, like to your point 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.420 is really good. But I do wonder, no names run 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.319 defense is damn good. But do they say, Mark Fletcher, 0:10:12.380 --> 0:10:15.380 this game's on you. We've given you the ball 30 times. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.140 I wonder if they try and then ball control it 0:10:18.260 --> 0:10:21.050 and keep Carr off the field and protect your defense. 0:10:21.690 --> 0:10:22.750 I wonder if they try that. 0:10:23.090 --> 0:10:25.089 You know, I think it's definitely going to be part 0:10:25.110 --> 0:10:26.709 of the game plan. And I think Mark Fletcher is 0:10:26.730 --> 0:10:29.569 going to say, I want the ball on my shoulders. 0:10:29.610 --> 0:10:31.850 He did it in the playoff last year. He is 0:10:32.130 --> 0:10:34.820 more than capable of carrying a load and then some. 0:10:35.340 --> 0:10:37.860 And I think as a senior leader and Malachi, Tony 0:10:37.900 --> 0:10:40.839 is one of his closest, dearest friends. You're going to 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:42.560 see that this weekend. I think they're going to have 0:10:42.660 --> 0:10:44.820 added motivation, which is not necessarily what you want. Now 0:10:44.900 --> 0:10:47.140 credit to Notre Dame. They are an elite football team. 0:10:47.230 --> 0:10:49.670 They too are dealing with some, some valuable injuries. 0:10:51.429 --> 0:10:54.969 If the committee even thought about leaving Miami out, I 0:10:55.050 --> 0:10:58.490 think that Michael Irvin would go get the RV that 0:10:58.510 --> 0:11:00.830 he gave to Mama Fletcher and drive it into the 0:11:00.890 --> 0:11:03.410 offices of the committee. He'd knock all their hats off 0:11:03.429 --> 0:11:05.460 that rack. I'm terrified how that man would react to this. 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.179 All their hats would fall off that rack, Boney. 0:11:08.300 --> 0:11:09.180 He really might. 0:11:09.220 --> 0:11:11.840 You're so right about that. But man, if a Miami 0:11:11.860 --> 0:11:15.540 team gets left out of a 12-team playoff by potentially 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:17.570 losing a close one to Notre Dame and falling short 0:11:17.620 --> 0:11:20.069 in a championship game that a lot of three-loss SEC 0:11:20.090 --> 0:11:22.570 teams aren't even going to be playing in, oh, by 0:11:22.590 --> 0:11:24.570 the way, then you're not putting the 12 best teams 0:11:24.630 --> 0:11:26.370 in the country in the playoff. And you're doing the 0:11:26.410 --> 0:11:27.090 fans a disservice. 0:11:27.190 --> 0:11:29.949 This text is hilarious. 704 number says, Mac, what are 0:11:29.970 --> 0:11:32.520 you doing to poor Taylor? You're bringing up hypotheticals that 0:11:32.540 --> 0:11:34.699 are getting her even more angry. Please don't do this. 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:36.059 Oh, yeah. 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:37.760 Listen, I promised myself I. 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.400 Wouldn't get riled up. I promised myself, but I can't 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.099 do it, you guys. I am who I am. 0:11:42.179 --> 0:11:45.260 But that's why we love you is like you are 0:11:45.340 --> 0:11:46.260 just passionate. 0:11:46.340 --> 0:11:47.580 You have opinions. You know what I mean? 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:49.800 You've got opinions. You back it up with facts. It's 0:11:49.820 --> 0:11:52.260 not like you're just throwing crazy stuff out like our 0:11:52.290 --> 0:11:52.970 text line does. 0:11:53.870 --> 0:11:55.510 You got facts, baby. I like it. 0:11:55.710 --> 0:11:59.030 Only sometimes, you know. Head over to my Twitter for 0:11:59.070 --> 0:12:01.270 the real facts because I'll drop numbers on there. 0:12:01.770 --> 0:12:02.350 What do you think? 0:12:02.390 --> 0:12:03.750 Before we let you go, we've got to ask you 0:12:03.770 --> 0:12:08.069 about Duke-NC State, a big game here in our neck 0:12:08.090 --> 0:12:11.150 of the woods. Duke has, and Bone has reminded State 0:12:11.170 --> 0:12:12.990 fans of this over the last three years. 0:12:13.150 --> 0:12:13.710 Just numbers. 0:12:13.929 --> 0:12:15.900 I just have the numbers, Taylor. I can't deny it. 0:12:16.330 --> 0:12:19.370 Double-digit wins each of the last three years for Duke 0:12:19.570 --> 0:12:23.040 over State. Do you think that continues? What are your 0:12:23.059 --> 0:12:23.900 thoughts on this one? 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:33.330 I remember sidelining that 23 game in Durham. That was 0:12:33.370 --> 0:12:33.750 not good. 0:12:33.870 --> 0:12:35.950 That was a real bad one for State. 0:12:36.350 --> 0:12:40.729 That was not good at all. I think Duke has 0:12:41.309 --> 0:12:44.210 the best running back and one of the best players 0:12:44.230 --> 0:12:47.830 in the country. By the way, they just launched... Nate 0:12:47.870 --> 0:12:50.330 Shepard's Heisman campaign, too, and rightfully so. His numbers are 0:12:50.350 --> 0:12:52.730 off the charts. I don't know that NC State for 0:12:52.750 --> 0:12:54.870 four quarters can sustain trying to figure out how to 0:12:54.910 --> 0:13:00.210 stop Nate Shepard. That's just what this game boils down to, 0:13:00.250 --> 0:13:02.290 I think. It will be great for NC State to 0:13:02.330 --> 0:13:05.689 get Duke Scott back, if they do, because they need 0:13:05.730 --> 0:13:09.559 a run game. It's... You know, they want to compete 0:13:09.580 --> 0:13:12.160 in this one, I think, to be sustainable and not 0:13:12.179 --> 0:13:15.440 just leave it up to C.J. Bailey and this passing 0:13:15.460 --> 0:13:18.420 game against a really, really, really good Duke defense. So 0:13:18.940 --> 0:13:22.020 those are some things to monitor, but trying to stop 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.310 Nate Shepard is something people haven't been able to do. 0:13:24.370 --> 0:13:25.660 If they can do it on the ground, great, but 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:27.090 he's going to kill you in the pass game. 0:13:27.630 --> 0:13:27.930 That's true. 0:13:27.950 --> 0:13:30.429 He's more scrimmage yards than anybody else in the country, 0:13:30.429 --> 0:13:31.010 18 of them. 0:13:31.370 --> 0:13:34.830 He's got 972 rush yards and 14 rush TDs. 31 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:41.890 catches for 302 receiving yards and four receiving TDs. He 0:13:41.970 --> 0:13:44.630 has to be a Heisman finalist, doesn't he? And I 0:13:44.670 --> 0:13:47.390 don't have confidence that the voters will do that, but 0:13:47.770 --> 0:13:50.030 doesn't he have to be a finalist, y'all, if he 0:13:50.050 --> 0:13:50.620 keeps this up? 0:13:51.090 --> 0:13:51.770 Absolutely does. 0:13:53.110 --> 0:13:56.770 I think numerically, yes, absolutely. The good news is Duke 0:13:56.809 --> 0:14:00.069 does play Miami next week, and Duke does play Wake Forest. 0:14:00.370 --> 0:14:02.610 So he's going to have chances to show not just 0:14:02.630 --> 0:14:05.670 the ACC we're watching, but the country who he really 0:14:05.770 --> 0:14:10.160 is against a legitimate... contender for a college football playoff. 0:14:10.300 --> 0:14:10.660 Good point. 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.540 And he has those numbers, and he wasn't healthy for 0:14:12.580 --> 0:14:16.730 about three weeks here. If he was actually healthy... Yeah, no, 0:14:16.750 --> 0:14:18.610 that's a great point, too, man. 0:14:18.790 --> 0:14:19.910 Y'all are all over it, man. 0:14:19.990 --> 0:14:23.670 I feel like we're all vibing right now on the 0:14:23.690 --> 0:14:24.230 same page. 0:14:24.510 --> 0:14:25.980 We do need to shout out Taylor. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:31.560 She has added, like, a 14th job at ESPN or, 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.940 you know, with ESPN, the ACC Network. You now are 0:14:34.980 --> 0:14:38.500 going to be doing for ESPN... coverage of the women's 0:14:38.570 --> 0:14:39.450 TGL golf. 0:14:39.530 --> 0:14:40.230 Is this true? 0:14:41.250 --> 0:14:44.830 It is true. It starts on Sunday. It's the inaugural 0:14:44.870 --> 0:14:48.610 season of WTGL. They're heading into year three of TGL. 0:14:48.650 --> 0:14:52.590 So they wanted to get the ladies involved in rightfully so. And, uh, 0:14:52.630 --> 0:14:56.710 there are some incredible names, uh, from the LPGA that 0:14:56.730 --> 0:14:59.410 are coming over to play in this, including headline by 0:14:59.430 --> 0:15:03.790 Michelle Lee West. Everybody knows her. Um, and, And I'm 0:15:03.850 --> 0:15:07.440 excited to dive into an aspect of sports that I'm 0:15:07.460 --> 0:15:10.040 not normally dabbling in, which is golf. But it's so different. 0:15:10.100 --> 0:15:12.760 And I hope people will tune in. Our first match 0:15:12.820 --> 0:15:15.610 is Sunday at 3 o'clock on ESPN. And I know 0:15:15.630 --> 0:15:17.590 a lot of people will be watching NFL. But if 0:15:17.610 --> 0:15:19.190 you want a little change of pace and to see 0:15:19.230 --> 0:15:22.570 some of these incredible ladies do their thing. um, lock 0:15:22.670 --> 0:15:24.590 in and then we'll, we'll see what I bring to 0:15:24.610 --> 0:15:28.210 the table because this is a fun, exciting learning experience 0:15:28.230 --> 0:15:29.910 for all of us because it's never been done before. 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:31.120 So let's get it. 0:15:31.300 --> 0:15:33.200 So Sunday's your day off. You said, I'll just throw 0:15:33.220 --> 0:15:35.080 another job on the table. Who needs days off? 0:15:35.180 --> 0:15:39.320 Who needs a day off? We'll sleep in June. 0:15:39.380 --> 0:15:43.870 All right, Taylor, you rock. Congratulations on that and all 0:15:43.900 --> 0:15:47.330 your success. Um, uh, thanks for coming on. We appreciate it. 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:51.100 You guys are the absolute best anytime, and I hopefully 0:15:51.150 --> 0:15:52.150 will see you soon.