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Speaker 1: Good morning, and welcome into a Tuesday here at ninety

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Speaker 1: three five one oh seven five the fan as we

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Speaker 1: get ready to rock into the Sweet sixteen later on

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Speaker 1: this week, and the long national nightmare, maybe global nightmare

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Speaker 1: has finally ended, gents for the first time since February eleventh.

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Speaker 1: It feels like the world has spun off its axis

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Speaker 1: since February eleventh. But the Pacers got it right last night.

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Speaker 1: They end their sixteen game losing streak, a franchise record,

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Speaker 1: on the road in Orlando, holding on by the skin

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Speaker 1: of their teeth to the very very end, a great

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Speaker 1: block by Pascal Siakam to ensure the victory, and they

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Speaker 1: finally get over the hump Kevin Bowen and it puts

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Speaker 1: their their poor record and ability to get into the

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Speaker 1: lottery really in no danger whatsoever.

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Speaker 2: I thought Caleb was going to go with the hull helujah.

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Speaker 1: No nothing, Maybe later on in the show.

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Speaker 2: Ah yeah, We've talked about it now for several weeks.

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Speaker 1: What Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Last time the Pacer had won, like two days after

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, I mean, I can this was a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Well felt like it, honestly, judging by the

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Speaker 2: reaction at the final buzzer last night. You could see

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Speaker 2: a lot of that on the Pacers faces there. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: Siakam outstanding. I want to mention Jay Huff too for

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Speaker 2: that defense there on the final possession, because I thought

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Speaker 2: he was right Theremiak got beat initially huffed getting to

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Speaker 2: the kind of the front part of that rim, made

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Speaker 2: Paula Bonkaro adjust and then Siakam finish it up from

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Speaker 2: that backside. And really the Pacers I thought Uber played

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Speaker 2: to win like that rotation was short. Kobe Brown didn't play,

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Speaker 2: Sakam nemhard and E Smith played a lot of minutes.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And to your point, Jeff, I know some people might

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Speaker 2: see the win and be freaking out on this Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 2: They are still in a comfy, comfy we will get

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Speaker 2: the most odds possible for the lottery here. With ten

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Speaker 2: games left in the breaker season.

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Speaker 1: It's about as it goes a getch right now, James,

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Speaker 1: considering the last month.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree.

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Speaker 5: I mean, anybody out there panicking to echo what these

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Speaker 5: guys are saying. The Pacers are still on pace to

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Speaker 5: have the worst record in franchise history. So they can

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Speaker 5: get a win against Orlando Magic and not freak out.

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Speaker 5: So it was a good performance I thought from Pascal Siakam,

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Speaker 5: an all star level performance, and honestly, because he had

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Speaker 5: been out for a couple of games, just reminds you

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Speaker 5: that he's still a very good player. So goes about

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Speaker 5: winning a lot, and maybe that's a little bit of

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Speaker 5: juice you can look at and say, Okay, the season

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Speaker 5: was tough, it was painful, but you know, on this night,

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Speaker 5: we had a good time.

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Speaker 1: Well they certainly did have a good time. They finally

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Speaker 1: get a win on the road. Everybody was contributing. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how about the assist from Nemhar last night. His line, guys,

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Speaker 1: thirteen point seven rebounds, fourteen assists. That's a very tyrese

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Speaker 1: Haliburton kind of line right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he hit you know, a very patented nemhard

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Speaker 2: shot left wing step back man. Pacers were leaking major

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Speaker 2: oil in the final few minutes there, Orledo had gone

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Speaker 2: on some sort of run. I don't know what the

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Speaker 2: exact number was late Chakla just typical themhard and very

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Speaker 2: typical of what you know where on the court we're

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Speaker 2: kind of used to it. And I thought aaron Ne Smith,

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Speaker 2: he tried to make really the game ceiling offensive rebound.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know again, for anyone may be questioning

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Speaker 2: some of the effort of the Pacers, big guys, just

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Speaker 2: watch how the final few minutes played out there. So yes,

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Speaker 2: again not a panicky win by any means, and they

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Speaker 2: are in a very nice spot to still secure their

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Speaker 2: proper odds. Lakers tomorrow and then Clippers I believe, still

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Speaker 2: without Benedict Matheren coming up on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of stuff going out. Your Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: women won last night too. How about that they stay

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Speaker 1: alive for you.

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Speaker 2: But when house was rocking, they Hanna Hidalgo, great cast,

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Speaker 2: prosper very good as well, so they advance. You don't

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Speaker 2: see too many higher seated teams advance in the women's tournament,

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Speaker 2: but Notre Dame A shout out to Virginia. Crazy game

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Speaker 2: they won at Iowa there, So yeah, Notre Dame on

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Speaker 2: the home floor of Ohio State. So take that Ryan Day.

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Speaker 2: How about that little Holtz looking down saying, Ryan Day,

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Speaker 2: you want a piece of me? Now, I'm up here,

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Speaker 2: brother man, oh man. I didn't expect that either. I

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Speaker 2: voughte I'm here for it makes up for the national

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Speaker 2: to like it done.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say something too, I propose nothing, because

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Speaker 1: usually you come in here wearing a hat, like, dude,

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Speaker 1: that's a great head of hair that you're talking about

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Speaker 1: all the time, but we never get to see it.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you to we Grow Hair Andy, We Grow

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Speaker 2: Hair Ady dot Com located up on the northwest side

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Speaker 2: the Pyramids, building number two.

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Speaker 1: He didn't miss that pitch, did he?

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Speaker 2: Not at all? And it's a school day. It is

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Speaker 2: a school day, school day, Okay, that means shower. That

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Speaker 2: means well, I'd usually do deoduran, even though on the

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Speaker 2: non shower days.

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Speaker 5: But yes, well I would hope so. Boy, it would

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Speaker 5: be a little snaky up in here, man.

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Speaker 1: From where you were to where you're at, i'd be

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Speaker 1: I'd never wear a hat if I were you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, someone said to me a shout out to the

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Speaker 2: small ball event last night up there at Parks Place Pub. Uh,

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Speaker 2: Luke are champion up there. I tried to get the

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Speaker 2: Luke going on the mic, and everybody think thought I

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Speaker 2: was booing him, And I'm like, oh, boy, have you

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Speaker 2: ever been to a sporting event where Luke is going off?

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Speaker 2: Come on now here, Karen Gody, Luke Zeller. But anyways,

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Speaker 2: he was outstanding one thousand dollars to Luke. But yes,

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Speaker 2: someone said to me, Man, the before picture on the

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Speaker 2: billboard looks a lot different than the after picture on

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Speaker 2: the billboard. Boy, I guess, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I know it's a good thing. It's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: Know how to respond to him?

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Speaker 1: That was a comp I'm giving you a compliment the

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Speaker 1: first thing out of gates this morning, taking and run

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Speaker 1: with that thing too. You also got the US Olympic

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Speaker 1: team trials pull over on that was. So you're rocking

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Speaker 1: it today. Man, you're ready to go?

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Speaker 2: Ready?

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Speaker 1: I think I didn't even think about that, James. He's

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Speaker 1: got he's got a public appearance at school this morning.

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Speaker 5: That's what it is, right, It's never for us. I

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Speaker 5: watch shows for us, but it's not for us.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jeff, welcome back, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Uh just spent the first year of my kids college

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Speaker 1: education going on spring break to Universal in uh or

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Speaker 1: probably stuck with me for an extra.

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Speaker 2: Year now after that. So you made it through TSA.

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Speaker 1: We didn't make it through TSA. It wasn't that bad

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Speaker 1: at LAX to be honest with you. So that was

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Speaker 1: that was a pleasant surprise. But you know you're going

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Speaker 1: to spend a lot of money when you get there.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's excited. It's going to be a fun day. You're

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Speaker 1: rock into the parking garage which goes on forever. Okay,

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Speaker 1: forty bucks just to park your car right there. I

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Speaker 1: mean I already they've already got your money for all

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Speaker 1: the money you've spent on the passes and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: And then once you get in you have a good time.

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Speaker 2: But this was the Lax.

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Speaker 1: No, this is at the at the theme park.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, at that part I didn't catch on too.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you like parking at LAX? What are

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Speaker 2: we doing?

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Speaker 1: The uber dropped this off?

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Speaker 2: Gotcha? All right? That all makes sense.

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Speaker 1: So no, it was a lot of fun the little

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Speaker 1: spring break. My wife and my youngest stayed out there

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Speaker 1: for a few more days because he's got spring break

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Speaker 1: this week. My oldest had spring break last week. That's

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Speaker 1: why we kind of did a Friday through a Monday

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Speaker 1: a lot of families have to do that. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what it is if your kids go to different schools,

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Speaker 1: and they're not exactly like ones in private school, ones

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Speaker 1: in the public school. Whatever. Why don't they just coordinate

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Speaker 1: spring breaks and everybody in the state beyond the same

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Speaker 1: week for spring break. Why do they have to do that?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was brutal on the Bowes growing up. Both

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Speaker 2: and oftentimes it did not a line up.

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Speaker 5: So so you didn't think of like when the spring

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Speaker 5: baking when you had kids.

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Speaker 2: Well, I you know, it really didn't cross my mind.

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Speaker 1: It will at some point, it is.

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Speaker 2: It is alive and well now honestly, I deal with

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Speaker 2: it from a again, obviously no one cares about me.

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Speaker 2: But a college spring break right now because you had

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Speaker 2: a last week, right and now we have it this week.

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Speaker 1: You and Matty go down to Florida and do anything

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Speaker 1: on the beach.

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Speaker 2: Can't say we'll see I'll see six every morn It's

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Speaker 2: a little different for the professors than it is for

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Speaker 2: the students. Apparently filling up the water bottle of vodka

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Speaker 2: to head on the beach probably a little different for

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Speaker 2: this day and age crew.

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Speaker 1: Every day spring break for you, James, you just rock

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Speaker 1: whatever you want.

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Speaker 2: To do every day pretty much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I love being able to get off working. The only

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Speaker 5: person I gotta worry about eating or staying alive is me.

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Speaker 1: What's the greatest spring break you had recently, Caleb. You're

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Speaker 1: of that age to go have a good time on

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Speaker 1: spring break. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: My sophomore year, me and my best friend drove through

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Speaker 6: the night to Florida NonStop, got out of class on Friday,

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Speaker 6: and it was last week regular season weekend in the

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Speaker 6: college basketball season. Is actually the year North Carolina beat

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Speaker 6: fun memories. Yeah, I miss that.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's spring break for Mark Dyke, and I know

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Speaker 1: he was rocket. Half of his pictures on social media

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Speaker 1: were about beer cans and stuff that he was drinking yesterday. Well,

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Speaker 1: he did it publicly, he did it. He put it

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Speaker 1: out there. I'm not saying anything, you know, behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes or anything like that. So everybody's having a good

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Speaker 1: time with spring break. If you're getting ready to take

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Speaker 1: the kids to have a good time, man, Because I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you one of the things we talked about, my

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Speaker 1: kids are a little bit older, and I'm sure everybody

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Speaker 1: goes through this. Your kids are younger, Kevin, but I

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Speaker 1: got a junior and a senior in high school right now.

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Speaker 1: And for for mister Rickard, like those those moments together

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Speaker 1: with the family, they're starting to get they're winding down, man,

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Speaker 1: it's late in the shot. We're having a good time.

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Speaker 1: We like our kids. Boy.

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Speaker 5: The sentimental value that you have for your children is commendable,

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Speaker 5: because my parents act like they do not care. As

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Speaker 5: you got older, it was great yourself sufficient and great, James,

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Speaker 5: you no longer are insurance fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure there are moments my kids would be like,

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Speaker 1: my parents are so mean to us. You know how

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Speaker 1: that goes? Right?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know now I can take both my parents

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Speaker 1: I hope your brackets are going well before we get started, James,

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Speaker 2: We will play next. So Notre Dame Vandy coming up Friday.

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Speaker 5: And I figured that would be the case because Mikayla

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Speaker 1: It's all on Saturday. I was talking about everybody coming

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Speaker 1: If Cathedral wins, do we get a speedo Monday in

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Speaker 1: I will never force a guy to wear speedo, but

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Speaker 1: for the show.

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Speaker 2: Is that James begging over there? I got a lot

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Speaker 2: of speedo beggars here. We need Mark Dking back.

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Speaker 1: More than ever. Did you guys talk about Jackson Smith

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Speaker 1: and getting a record extension with the Seattle Sea. I

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Speaker 1: know we made a big deal out of Alec Pierson

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Speaker 1: his contract, but the man's getting a four year, one

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty eight point six million dollar contract extension, James,

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Speaker 1: he'll be the highest paid wide receiver in NFL history.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw that they could extend Puku Nakua in LA,

446
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Speaker 5: so that record that JSN has right now will go down.

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Speaker 5: But it's funny because with Alec it was he was

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Speaker 5: the highest paid free agent receiver in NFL history. Because

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Speaker 5: normally the great ones don't even reach free agency, so

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Speaker 5: there's always some sort of like wardage or verbiage used

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Speaker 5: to describe while these guys are so highly paid.

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Speaker 1: I got I feel like I have to acknowledge Mark's

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Speaker 1: Cubs here centerfielder Pete Crow Armstrong and the Cubbies finalizing

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Speaker 1: a long term extension as well. They're trying to lock

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Speaker 1: up one, I think one of the young breakout stars

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Speaker 1: in Major League baseball.

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Speaker 3: James.

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Speaker 1: It is fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: You would know more than me.

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Speaker 5: You know, I'm not a huge baseball guy, but I'll

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Speaker 5: you know, usually flip it on when it comes to

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Speaker 5: the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I won a Gold Glove last year, posted the team's

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Speaker 1: for thirty thirty season in three decades. He's only gonna

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Speaker 1: be He's.

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Speaker 2: Twenty three years old. Kevin very good to baseball. As

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Speaker 2: much as that pains me to say he is a

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Speaker 2: Reds fan.

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Speaker 1: All right. Also, here's something that will peak Kevin's interest.

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Speaker 1: Tiger will be swinging a golf club competitively in the TG.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I might take off his feed

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Speaker 2: up for that.

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Speaker 1: No, if he if, okay, I'll ask this. Should Tiger

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Speaker 1: announce that he's going to play the Masters, what kind

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Speaker 1: of celebration do we get that?

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Speaker 2: I just find a new host for the next week.

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Speaker 1: Respect, I know where the TV will be on over

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Speaker 1: here on the right side of the wall.

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Speaker 5: Here we need Kevin Masters media.

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Speaker 1: I fine with me.

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Speaker 2: That's tonight Tiger Woods is playing indoor golf. Just to

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Speaker 2: clear it up with every.

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Speaker 1: Championship match for the Orlando the Jupiter team.

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Speaker 2: I guess the Tiger it's baby steps at this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and remember the latest surgery not too long ago.

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Speaker 1: They replaced an entire disc in his lumbar region of

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Speaker 1: the spine. That just sounds nasty, Kevin Bowen nasty. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: nasty surgery as well.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, probably some nasty off off the course for Tiger

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Speaker 2: as well, a lot of self inflicted plant I'm afraid of.

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Speaker 1: One other thing too. I don't know how much. You

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Speaker 1: guys talked about it yesterday. The search continues for Butler's

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Speaker 1: next men's basketball coach. I was looking at the Star

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Speaker 1: this morning at Nora d that you had talked about before,

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Speaker 1: possibly Chris Holtman, maybe John Gross, anybody else really a

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Speaker 1: viable Canada you've heard about or seen.

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Speaker 2: Well, it seemed like a lot of the guys really

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Speaker 2: in the Butler family, I mean everybody you just mentioned there,

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Speaker 2: and it seems like there was a little smoke on

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Speaker 2: Michael Shrewsbury, which would certainly lead to plenty of dominoes

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Speaker 2: here from a state standpoint. Chris CapCo, the new ball

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Speaker 2: state coach. By the way, I gonna join us this

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Speaker 2: week at Caleb. I think it's Thursday, I believe. So again,

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Speaker 2: not a lot of direct ties to the state of

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Speaker 2: Indiana there, But yeah, Butler, it's curious. Travis Steele, it

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Speaker 2: sounds like no. Again, it came Gillespie from the Star.

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Speaker 2: I had that nspiece, which you know, I think we

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Speaker 2: kind of hinted at it last week. Didn't seem like

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Speaker 2: that was as obvious. That's what it appeared to be

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Speaker 2: on paper there. So yeah, based off the names he said,

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Speaker 2: Grant line. Decker sounds like a decision mid to late

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Speaker 2: week and Butler are going to keep it in the

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Speaker 2: family if one of those four names ends up being

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Speaker 2: the coach.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening in the world of sports

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Speaker 1: here and now. Things change moment to moment. That's the

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Speaker 1: world we live in, and we'll keep you up to

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Speaker 1: day and anything that does happen all day long. Here

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Speaker 1: at ninety three five and one oh seven five the

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Speaker 1: fan coming up. In just a moment, we'll talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit more fun to talk about the Pacers in

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Speaker 1: a winning light. So we got to do that because

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Speaker 1: we saw a lot of really good things last night

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Speaker 1: as well. We'll do it in a moment. Continue ninety

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Speaker 1: three five and one o seven five the fan. Let's go, James,

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Speaker 1: things going on.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, look, this is what it's this is celebrate this, guys,

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Speaker 6: come on, let's go.

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Speaker 1: This is the kind of year that up until now.

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Speaker 1: You need the memory of a goldfish.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened the previous games for the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Pacers, the previous like seventy one games. Don't care.

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Speaker 1: All I can remember. All I know is Pascal Siakam

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Speaker 1: and Jayoff cruising on over to stop Powell Bencaro and

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Speaker 1: hanging on for a win. A dramatic, thrilling road win

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Speaker 1: for the Indian. But that's all I can remember at

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Speaker 1: this point in time.

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Speaker 6: Are they eliminated from playoff contention?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they make the ten seed playing.

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Speaker 1: I forgot again. I got the memory of a goldfish

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Speaker 1: today New Year's calett.

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Speaker 6: I kid you not.

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Speaker 5: That is a question my dad has asked me within

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Speaker 5: the last week because he has to keep up with

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Speaker 5: the pacersa that much, and he's, you know, I know,

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Speaker 5: Holli burns her how things are going.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you are asking the wrong question.

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Speaker 1: Brother. I was listening to something while I was traveling

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Speaker 1: this past weekend. I can't remember who it was, but

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Speaker 1: they were talking about was an NBA theme show, and

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Speaker 1: they were talking how this might be Rick Carlile's greatest

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Speaker 1: coaching job ever, keeping his guys motivated, not winning basketball games,

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Speaker 1: getting young guys time, getting him better play. For me,

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Speaker 1: He's just like, I.

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Speaker 5: Can't drink that one.

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Speaker 1: But I just thought there was an interesting outside observation.

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Speaker 5: And I'll leave it at that, because I mean, I

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Speaker 5: want to, you know, keep it in context, you we're

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Speaker 5: all excited for the Paters to get a dub, and

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Speaker 5: you know, wouldn't hurt to knock off Lebron James to

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Speaker 5: morrow night over at game of Shrulthhouse. But pivoting a

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Speaker 5: little bit back to college basketball, I've been looking at

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Speaker 5: the way Purdue could match up with Texas, and I

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Speaker 5: do think there is you know, come this game, just

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Speaker 5: some things you have to do athletically, not athletically, but

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Speaker 5: like you have to make sure you account for their athletes.

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Speaker 5: Looking at Cam Heidi and you kind of forget, not forget,

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Speaker 5: but you haven't seen it in a while, but like

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Speaker 5: what he brought to that team, and I'm like, man,

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Speaker 5: he's somebody could throw a Braden Smith. Have a few

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Speaker 5: more bodies to throw at them. And I think Texas

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Speaker 5: is the Cinderella Texas that is now in the sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 5: They're dangerous, man, and I think you really have to

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Speaker 5: be disciplined to account for what they can present when

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Speaker 5: it comes to just mucking up the game and winning

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Speaker 5: and maybe more ugly style and we'll be seeing from

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Speaker 5: the more efficient offensive Purdue.

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Speaker 2: So I've been thinking about that a lot.

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Speaker 1: Kevin, When you guys really stop and think about it,

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Speaker 1: and on the six game winning streak through the postseason

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Speaker 1: and now for Purdue, the defense has been there when

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Speaker 1: they've needed it. I thought they got stops all day

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Speaker 1: long against Michigan when they were playing what is now

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Speaker 1: a number one seed in the Big Ten Tournament. And

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Speaker 1: their offensive efficiency is so good that if they just

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Speaker 1: get enough stops, they're going to be a handful for anybody.

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Speaker 1: At this point, I'm like, I know we're talking about Texas,

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Speaker 1: and I'm saying, like you, James, I'm expecting Texas' best game.

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Speaker 1: But man, the Purdue boiler Makers, they've been getting stuff

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Speaker 1: off the bench from guys. CJ. Cox has been terrific

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Speaker 1: when he's had moments. Meyer has been terrific, Fletcher Lawyer

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Speaker 1: scoring the basketball. Now you know what you're getting for

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Speaker 1: most nights from Braden Smith and Trey Kaufman Wren, And

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Speaker 1: I think that big guy in the middle has been

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Speaker 1: tremendous lately, Daniel Jacobson getting valuable minutes. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much he's helping right now, but he's getting valuable

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Speaker 1: minutes for the future. Like everything, if you're Matt Paynter,

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Speaker 1: you got to go to sleep feeling pretty good about

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Speaker 1: what they've been doing lately.

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Speaker 2: I mean, your biggest question probably exiting Sunday non health

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Speaker 2: relaedo CJ. Cox, is just you know, what will Bradin

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Speaker 2: Smith do in a bounce back effort? And again, if

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Speaker 2: you're going to have anybody on your team need a

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Speaker 2: bounce back effort, he was. He's the one you'd want

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Speaker 2: to bet on pretty heavily. Honestly, It's a bit of

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Speaker 2: a similar feeling to last year at this time. Brad

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Speaker 2: Smith did not have one of his better games against

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Speaker 2: McNeese in the round of thirty two. You survived, you advanced,

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Speaker 2: and then I thought he was outstanding against Houston last

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Speaker 2: year in the sweet sixteen. So you know, I think

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Speaker 2: as far as Texas is concerned, I think get times

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Speaker 2: we can fall into this trap of like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: here they are in the sweet sixteen. They also lost

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Speaker 2: five or six going in the tournament. They were a

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Speaker 2: shot away from losing in Dayton. Like, I'm not I'm

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Speaker 2: not overreacting to Texas coming up on Thursday night. If

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong, I'm wrong, But that's kind where I'm at.

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Speaker 2: I know, obviously Purdue can't think that way. And produce

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Speaker 2: tournament history would tell you that in no way, shape

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Speaker 2: or form. Are probably many of their fans think in

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Speaker 2: that way. But I'm looking ahead to Saturday because I can,

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Speaker 2: and Arizona in Arkansas I just think intrigues me so much.

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Speaker 2: You could make the case, well, Purdue could honestly make

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Speaker 2: the case. You can make the case the two best

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Speaker 2: backcourts left in the tournament are Arizona in Arkansas with

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Speaker 2: the dynamic nature to what the pair of guards and

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Speaker 2: Berries and Bradley for Arizona, and you know Thomas and

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Speaker 2: Kluff a Cluff, I should say for Arkansas. I mean

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Speaker 2: just elite, elite scores, shooters, drivers, the whole nine. So

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Speaker 2: again we you know, I guess Friday morning you could

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Speaker 2: discuss that. But that to me is just a different

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Speaker 2: element than what Purdue has obviously seen so far. Really

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Speaker 2: in any of this run. I think you can make

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Speaker 2: the case even for Michigan. Michigan is a much different

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Speaker 2: team than I think what Arizona or what are Consol

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Speaker 2: will possess. And that's why I think the healthless CJ.

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Speaker 2: Cox is so critical. Yeah, you could probably survive forty

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Speaker 2: minutes on Thursday with a limited CJ. Cox, But you know,

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Speaker 2: if you need him to defend one of those guys

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Speaker 2: coming up on Saturday, that'll be vital.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is a tremendous run that these three seniors

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Speaker 1: have been on. You want to see it continue, want

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Speaker 1: to see if they can take that that last step

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Speaker 1: because for this trio playing in the national championship game

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Speaker 1: or a Final four, they they're not new to this.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen, they they've been there. So we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 5: Do you think this is perhaps so far, you all,

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Speaker 5: the best way the bracket could have unfolded for Purdue.

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Speaker 1: To this point in time. I think yes, you'd have

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Speaker 1: to say that.

654
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Speaker 2: I feel like they've owned Gonzag over the years. That's what,

655
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: you know. I saw the bracket pop up. I'm like,

656
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: oh man, you know, it feels like I have no

657
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: idea what Matt Painters record is against Mark Few, but

658
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: I feel like he has won, you know, really the

659
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: last three four matchups here. So yeah, I you know,

660
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: every time I feel like the bracket is broken nicely,

661
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: you know, I still look at the top half and think, wow,

662
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: you know, Utah State pulling off the upisode would have

663
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: been you know, even a even a better sense. But

664
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: you know, it is interesting. I've been thinking about this

665
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: a little bit more over the past day or so

666
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: of like, how do he kind of contextualize produce seven

667
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: Sweet sixteens and nine years? Like to me, when you

668
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: say it out loud, it sounds damn impressive. Seven Sweet

669
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: sixteens in the last nine years, But when you boil

670
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: it down to our state, it's even more insanely impressive

671
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: what they've done. Like if you go back on these

672
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: nine years, I use made the tournament? What twice? How

673
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: many times Notre Dame made the tournament? How many times

674
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: the Butler made made the tournament in a rough run?

675
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: How many times have it like a mid major in

676
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: our state made the tournament. Yeah, and he had a

677
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 2: state baby which didn't get in you know, couple year.

678
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: It's true, that's right, they got left out. So again,

679
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I use made it twice. Notre Dame's made it.

680
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: I think it's once. Butler's made it. I believe once.

681
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 2: I mean think about that. Those three schools, the other

682
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: power schools you would label, have made the tournament four

683
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: times in the last nine years. Purdue has made the

684
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen, not just making the tournament. They've made the

685
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: final sixteen seven times. In that hard man like it's

686
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 2: I get and again we've talked about this. When you

687
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 2: have that success, you just keep on saying no, no, no.

688
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: The peak of the mountains all the way up there,

689
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: and Purdue is as close as you can get to it.

690
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: But hell, I mean Indiana, Notre Dame, Butler, these programs,

691
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: they're back on ground zero, just hoping and praying someone

692
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 2: will give them a lift to give it get ten

693
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: feet off. Yeah, I don't think the ground and Produe's

694
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: one thousand, you know, feet up in the air. Yeah.

695
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 5: To your point, Kevin, I don't think there's been many

696
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 5: times we've talked about purduing the bubble this past season

697
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 5: or past many seasons. And when I think of how

698
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 5: they're built, that's what really stands out to me, Kevin,

699
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 5: is it's it's sort of an old school build with

700
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 5: a little bit of modern flavor. Obviously Oscar Cluff isn't

701
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 5: a homegrown talent, but I don't know if like credit

702
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 5: is the right word to use. But when I think

703
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 5: of how the team has been built, and it's uniquely

704
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 5: built in a way that I think other programs in

705
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 5: the country are not. I have to my Captain, Matt Painter,

706
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 5: because you have found the right caliber of players from

707
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 5: a skill standpoint, but also from a character standpoint, because

708
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 5: it takes a lot, and probably more so in today's

709
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 5: era and age, to get a bunch of guys to

710
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 5: stay here and not go on to greener pastures or

711
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 5: a larger and bigger and greener bag of money, quite frankly,

712
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 5: and so to be rewarded for that in this fashion,

713
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 5: especially in this senior year with these guys, it's commendable.

714
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 5: But I know they're greedy too, and they don't want

715
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 5: it to end at this weekend.

716
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: One of the things to keep in mind, though, you

717
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: go back to the Carson Edwards team and then to

718
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: the first time an for getting to the championship game

719
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: for this group of seniors here other than those two teams, though,

720
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: Matt Painter, those two teams got past the Sweet sixteen,

721
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: the other ones that he's had have not. So let's

722
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: see if this group of special players can keep that going.

723
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: And you take a look at the list of the

724
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: other guys that are coaches in the sweet sixteen right now,

725
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: there are some heavyweights, man Patino. You know what, Rick

726
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: Patino's all time record in the Sweet sixteen is twelve

727
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: and one.

728
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: Wow, that's insane. Makes me feel better about having sat

729
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: John's in the final four.

730
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: John cali Perry is twelve and four in the Sweet sixteen.

731
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: Is there any part of you that would rather face

732
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: Arizona than Arkansas if you are Purdue? Do you look

733
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 2: at a cuff and you look at John cali Perry's

734
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: tournament history versus Tommy Lloyd, And the one nitpick on

735
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: Arizona is they don't shoot and make a lot of threes.

736
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: That is that overthinking it?

737
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 5: I think so because they're so they are being Arizona.

738
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,479
Speaker 5: They're so balanced where I feel like if you are

739
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 5: able to contain Darius acub junior to some degree, and

740
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 5: many teams have not been able to do that, you

741
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 5: are probably in the driver's He needs to win that game,

742
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 5: Like I don't think that he can have an off

743
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 5: night and win. Quite frankly, now, if you look at

744
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 5: what Arizona does and CoA Pete doesn't have the best night,

745
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 5: if Barry doesn't have the best night, for them, I

746
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 5: think they can survive because they're so deep, and I

747
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 5: mean quite frankly, they've won a ton this year, a

748
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 5: lot more than even Arkansas has, So yeah, I guess

749
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 5: it's like one of those do you want to face

750
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 5: like the.

751
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: Top team, like the hot player at the right time.

752
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 5: So either way, it would be an interesting matchup for sure.

753
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun. But I mean,

754
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: you talk about those coaches that are still alive that

755
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: are heavyweights. I mean Izzoh, he's been there forever eleven

756
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: and five in sweet sixteens. Kelvin Sampson is back again.

757
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: He's got a winning record in sweet sixteen games. Rick

758
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: Barnes is back again. Sean Miller is no stranger there.

759
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: So in this particular round, still got some big time

760
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: heavyweight coaches in here. Despite the fact that Bill self

761
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: is not there anymore. We have an up a guy

762
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: that doesn't have the same number of games here. But

763
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: I mean Hurley and Yu Khon, there's some just really

764
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: good coaches left here.

765
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 3: Man.

766
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's gonna be a lot of fun to watch.

767
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of fun to watch.

768
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 5: Looking at this Midwest side a little bit. This Michigan

769
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 5: Alabama one, boy, I know, Michigan's been Michigan all year

770
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 5: and they're a great team, Caleb, but I don't either

771
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 5: got the eyebrows raised.

772
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: Alabama can shoot that name.

773
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 5: So I'm just thinking to myself, like, well, if there's

774
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 5: ever a team that is just scary to me from

775
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 5: any part of the bracket, it's them because they shoot

776
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 5: so many threes. I mean, they lost to what their

777
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 5: second leading scorer because he made some poor decisions, I'll

778
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 5: put it mildly, and they're still able to, you know,

779
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 5: put up like ninety points against pretty much anybody.

780
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: In the country.

781
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 6: They looked fine in the entire first weekend. They were

782
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 6: just gonna keep wroing. What's the number they got to

783
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 6: get to against Michigan to feel comfortable? Like, because Michigan's

784
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 6: a good defensive Ye. Yeah, that's what I've been thinking

785
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 6: about when it comes to that matchup.

786
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, if they can get to like, I think I'll

787
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 5: call like eighty one. Yeah, they get to eighty, I

788
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 5: think they can win that game. But anything underneath that, yeah,

789
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 5: because Michigan is a great defense.

790
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 2: He said, that's the thing I like that eighty one

791
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: one and a half.

792
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: Is Texas the closest thing to Cinderella. We have left

793
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: in this tournament.

794
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 2: I'll like Kevin Wayan, he loves I think it's Iowa

795
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: more than Texas. You know, if you look at roster budgets,

796
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess, I mean, hell, Cam Heidi might be

797
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: making more money than you know, ninety percent of the

798
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 2: Iowa roster there. So yeah, I'm gonna say, if you

799
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: want to define Cinderella, which you know, again, Cinderella looks

800
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: a whole lot different than twenty twenty five and twenty

801
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 2: twenty six then she used to, it would be Iowa

802
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 2: because you know that roster. I mean, I don't know

803
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: if you haven't in front of you, but what is

804
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: it Drake and Robert Morris? Is that pretty much their

805
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: starting lineup? You know, from a past school standpoint there.

806
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: But you know, obviously we're not getting anything, you know Tennessee, right,

807
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: aren't they a sixth seed? You know, I guess if

808
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: you want to go off a seed line. But honestly,

809
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 2: the men's bracket looks a whole lot like the women's bracket,

810
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: you know, just from a chalk standpoint, which is kind

811
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 2: of what we thought. And to be fair, at high point,

812
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: they were right there, I mean, they were right there

813
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: with the opportunity, you know, late on Saturday night to

814
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 2: really be the true true Cinderella. But yeah, we don't.

815
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 2: We don't have that there. But you know, again, when

816
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: you look at the Sweet sixteen matchups, there are so

817
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: many great great games, you know, like one of the

818
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: week on paper games or two fan bases absolutely hate

819
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: each other in Nebraska and in Iowa, and two fan

820
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: bases that can you imagine Nebraska enters the tournament without

821
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: ever winning an NCAAA game. If they win Thursday night,

822
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: they are forty minutes away from the final four. If

823
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: you are the city of Indianapolis, you would probably dream

824
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: to have Nebraska's fan base descend upon in streets Iowa.

825
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: When's the last time they have made to Sweet sixteen?

826
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: Didn't Fran McCaffrey go opher in his career there and

827
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: he was there for what nearly twenty years? So when's

828
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: last time Iowa has made it to this point? Like

829
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: you know, those two fans, you know, that would be

830
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 2: the one game on paper where you're like, oh, it's

831
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 2: a nine seed versus a whatever, a four seed. It's

832
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: not you know, the Defendi National champ of Florida there,

833
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: but to a lot of people. That's one of the

834
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: more marquee games, just given what that atmosphere is going

835
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: to be like down there in Houston. And then James,

836
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 2: you and I talked about it yesterday. You're Alma mater

837
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 2: against Houston. You know that Illinois offense facing a Kelvin

838
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: Sampson defense. Boy brew the coffee because that is the

839
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: late one on Thursday, and I cannot wait to watch

840
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: that matchup.

841
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll be a little nervous watching that. I picked

842
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 5: Illinois to win. It was more of a heart overhead pick.

843
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 5: I mean, I could seriously see them winning because they're

844
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 5: a very good team. But I mean we talk about

845
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 5: great coaches and Colvin Sampson, is he not one of

846
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 5: the top five coaches in the country? Has he not

847
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 5: been for the last decade? I mean Houston, but having

848
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 5: more crash outed for him.

849
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: You know, we live in our Purdue bubble understandably, but

850
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 2: for Houston fans, they're thinking themselves, Man, Kelvin's an unbelieable

851
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: on Kevin's that's not a good question Kelvin's career. Yeah,

852
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: you know, this is that thought there of how many

853
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: more chances are you going to get? They have two

854
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: elite freshmen. Two freshmen that could be lottery picks. But

855
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Sharp's a fifth year senior. Uzan's been there for

856
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: a while. Tuggler's been there for a while. You know,

857
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: it's kind of like, all right, you know, how many

858
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: more chances are you going to get? I have no

859
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 2: idea how old Kelvin Sampson is, but he definitely strikes

860
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: me on the older side. So yeah, tons and tons

861
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: of storylines.

862
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: Uh, just curious too. If you guys have talked much

863
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: about this six of the sixteen from the big.

864
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: Ten, you're taking Big ten of the field, Jeff.

865
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm taking between missions.

866
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: It's a good question.

867
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: I think that's a fifty to fifty question right there.

868
00:38:53,239 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: I will probably only because I think Arizona duke really good.

869
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: I probably fifty nine in the field, like fifty one

870
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,919
Speaker 1: forty nine the field.

871
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: I should be in Vegas.

872
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: Man, oh Man, by the way, he spaining a big ten.

873
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: How to Ohio State do in the tournament? Caleb?

874
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 2: Can you bet on that he's a duke?

875
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 3: Loss? Yeah?

876
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 6: You know you got to remember this saying I'm not

877
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 6: going to get into heaven because of my college sports fandom.

878
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 2: I mean, we got enough time here. Can you explain this?

879
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 5: Can you explain your allegiances Ohio State football fan and

880
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 5: Duke basketball fan. This is why the probably why gates

881
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 5: might not might not open.

882
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: Hey, I feel like.

883
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: He's very selective, so he likes Ohio State football, but

884
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: forget the basketball.

885
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 2: I'll let him explain.

886
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 6: No, no, no, and I and I appreciate the opportunity to.

887
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 6: I won't bore people with this, but I do feel

888
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 6: like people in Indiana get it. They're Notre Dame football

889
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 6: fans in Indiana basketball fans. That's a thing around here, correct.

890
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 6: I don't know it is that a thing I've ran

891
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 6: into a lot of people used.

892
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: To be in then ie football, I started winning, sir,

893
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, yeaha from Kevin and Caleb here

894
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: could continue.

895
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 6: That's true, but yeah, no, for me at a young age,

896
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 6: I really didn't have a college basketball team. And then

897
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 6: it was actually the twenty ten national championship when they

898
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 6: won it when it really clicked for me. And I

899
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 6: thought my dad was like a Duke fan, so I

900
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,479
Speaker 6: was kind of following him, but he just liked coach

901
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 6: k because you know, he's a high school basketball coach.

902
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 6: So I just took that and I kind of ran

903
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 6: with it. And now it's gotten to the point where, again,

904
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 6: like I said yesterday, I'm walking around in my other

905
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 6: place of work Thursday, and Duke is down thirteen to

906
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 6: Siana and I'm just sweating, can't focus on anything else.

907
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 6: It's it's rough, man, but I'm really invested. And just

908
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 6: the high State parts is being from Ohio.

909
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: I know it's weird.

910
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 6: It probably I probably should get hated on for it,

911
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 6: but it.

912
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 2: Is just the way things worked out.

913
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: The strangest thing I've ever seen. And many many years ago,

914
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: and I was working for the Utah Jazz I was

915
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: in Salt Lake City and this happened a lot. Obviously,

916
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: LVS Church is a big thing in Utah, right and

917
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: BYU is kind of the flagship place. You'd be shocked

918
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 1: at how many people kids, students attended the University of Utah,

919
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: but BYU sports fans. That's just odd to me, is

920
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: it not. Isn't that weird?

921
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 5: Again, this falls in loud with my theme of sinning,

922
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 5: you know, and maybe not seeing the parly white gates.

923
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 5: But Caleb, you know, I'll put a phone call in

924
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 5: for you.

925
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 3: Thanks man.

926
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: Matt Painter grew up an IU fan, right, you know

927
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 2: what I was actually watching and it was an Instagram

928
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: clip of him explaining kind of his fandom growing up

929
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: as a big EU guy.

930
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 5: And then he was saying that when he got an

931
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 5: opportunity to join the coaching staff at Purdue, he told

932
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 5: his dad.

933
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 2: I'm not taking it.

934
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 5: I hate Perdue, and his dad had to sit him down, like, look,

935
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 5: we're lifelong Hoosiers and all that, but brother, this is

936
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 5: a great business in life decision opportunity. And you look

937
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 5: up and now he's mister Boiler. And so it's kind

938
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 5: of funny that that's worked out the way it has

939
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 5: to honesty.

940
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: A question I want to throw Bruce Webers, Why Bruce

941
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 2: ever going to join us? Coming up here at nine

942
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 2: to forty five today. You know, we talked a little

943
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: bit about it yesterday. Bruce Weber hired Matt Paynter. First off,

944
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 2: he recruited him to Produe, so he had to overcome

945
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: that aspect of it. I think Matt would joke that

946
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 2: maybe Indiana didn't pursue him to the level that he

947
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: maybe wanted as a seventeen eighteen year old out of

948
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: the Munthsy area. But of course, Bruce Weber his first

949
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: head coaching job at Southern Illinois, he brings Matt Painter

950
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: with him. He's there for a few years, of course,

951
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: and then Matt Painter takes over in that one year

952
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 2: role before taking over for Gene Katy. So, by the way,

953
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: it's been great c Gen Katie at these games, you know,

954
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: health wise, travel wise, you know he's able to get

955
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 2: there to San Jose and be there for that. Because

956
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 2: I have enjoyed the few clips I've seen from a

957
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 2: coach Katie there falling the Boilers here in the month

958
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: of March.

959
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been fun to watch him. And I like

960
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: the fact that the cameras have frequently pointed out his

961
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: reactions to stuff, which has been a lot of fun.

962
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: And that's been enjoyable to watch too. Of all these

963
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen games though, and there are some, there are

964
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: some matchups. Man, if we exclude the Purdue Texas game,

965
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: which we're talking about and most interested in. What is

966
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: the one game that you mentioned Kevin Illinois and Houston

967
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: that's a three seed against a two seed. Any other

968
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: games that you just like you cannot wait to watch?

969
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: Tip up?

970
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 5: Well to not be a Homer in s Illinois Houston.

971
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 5: I will go and say it's probably Arizona Arkansas Again.

972
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 5: I think Arizona has an argument through the best team

973
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 5: in the country, and then daris acub junior right now

974
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 5: has an argument to be the best player in the country.

975
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 5: So those matchups are always low intriguing to me.

976
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: Insane how great all these matchups are though, And maybe

977
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: that just comes with the Seeds advancing.

978
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,959
Speaker 5: The way they talked about Michigan State and Yukon, I know, I.

979
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: Was just looking at that. You talk about the two

980
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: coaches we mentioned a moment ago and in Danny Hurley

981
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: and Tom Izzo, and you got Duke Saint John's Are

982
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: you kidding me? I mean Duke still banged up a

983
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,320
Speaker 1: little bit in the backcourt, and Saint John's with Patino

984
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: right now they are cruising. They look like a really

985
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: tough out at this point in time.

986
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely. So it'll be a lot of neglected responsibilities.

987
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:04,800
Speaker 5: Is that coming weekend?

988
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: Yeah? And if you like basketball at all, if you

989
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: like college basketball and cababus So, I don't.

990
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 6: Know, I thought that was funny. Neglected responsibilities.

991
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 5: Let's be honest, are okay? I obviously do not have

992
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 5: the responsibilities you all have. But Kevin, what is the

993
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 5: plan here? To watch not every game but the ones

994
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 5: you want to really see.

995
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: We're gonna do our best watch every game.

996
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 1: Okay, I will tell you this. Kevin's in a sweet

997
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: spot right now, and I'll explain because I went through

998
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 1: this a couple of times when, especially my firstborn, my

999
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: oldest was born. I've told you guys on Selection Sunday. Yes, indeed,

1000
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: what a great way to give your wife a break

1001
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: and just hold the baby if you need to during

1002
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: you know, timeouts are very frequent. You change the kid

1003
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: during the timeouts. I enjoyed having my firstborn son in

1004
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: my arms watching March Madness, and I was like, you know,

1005
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: you rest for while, I'll take care of the kid

1006
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: right now. So do you find that.

1007
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: Your plan be a father? Kevin? That's the plan. Yeah.

1008
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: I not to speak for newborn mothers, but I don't

1009
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 2: think there's much rest in it all.

1010
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: Though, well no there isn't. But I mean, at least

1011
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: you give them a chance to not have to worry

1012
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: about physically taking care of the little one right there.

1013
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

1014
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: We have physical limitations if we No, I got you

1015
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: anatomy class here starting the nine o'clock hour.

1016
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: I understand. Maybe it's because, for whatever reasons, my kids

1017
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: they just wanted the chest for me.

1018
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 2: It was growing a lot over the years, not in

1019
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: the way I'd like it to grow, but it can't grow.

1020
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 5: Said his kids were a little more well behaved, they

1021
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 5: would go to sleep on command. No snapped the fingers

1022
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 5: in there out basketball time.

1023
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we didn't have to go through what

1024
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: you're going through in that particular face.

1025
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 2: They went to sleep to one shining moment.

1026
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 5: Probably yeah, I mean it was a selection Sunday, baby,

1027
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 5: they got to give it the program.

1028
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: Uh So, anyway, looking forward to all these games Thursday

1029
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: and Friday, the Sweet sixteen is going to be must

1030
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: see TV. And I can't wait for this weekend to

1031
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,280
Speaker 1: take place. And it is very chalky, and it looks

1032
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: it's great to have underdogs and Cinderella's to root for,

1033
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: but there's also something kind of intriguing about just heavyweights

1034
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: duking it out game after game after game.

1035
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 2: You might have to go dual screen. You're on the

1036
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: four A call for the state finals very well perdue,

1037
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: could be tipping.

1038
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: I will probably in that time I will probably do

1039
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: There's no way I'm not going to find out about

1040
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: it at the fieldhouse, probably, but I'll definitely watch it

1041
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: in its entirety when I get home.

1042
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: Luke Iernel trying to win a state championship, Purdue trying

1043
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: and go to the Final four at the same time.

1044
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 2: That very well could be the case coming up.

1045
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 1: And Matt Panners have a huge weekend, right, it'd be

1046
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: a lot of fun, all right. Coming up in just

1047
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: a moment, we'll continue our talk about the Indiana Pacers

1048
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: finally busting down the walls and getting past an opponent

1049
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: last night. We'll do that more on the upcoming Sweet sixteen.

1050
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,800
Speaker 1: Coming up in the nine o'clock hour, we'll talk to CJ.

1051
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: Moore from The Athletic he covers college basketball for them,

1052
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 1: and Bruce Webber from the Big Ten Network. We'll close

1053
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: out the show at nine forty five This morning. We'll

1054
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: take your phone calls and read some text for the

1055
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: first time this morning. Coming up at a moment as well,

1056
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: two three, nine, ten, seventy It's the Fan Morning Show,

1057
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you a little bit more about the

1058
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: upcoming Fan Invitational golf tournament. Which is starting to fill

1059
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: up pretty quickly as we continue it. Ninety three five

1060
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: and one oh seven five the fan. Caleb, doing a

1061
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: great job today, and already people lobbying for you to

1062
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: be full time. Hey, Caleb, enough so he doesn't have

1063
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: to have another job. We hired you part time. We're

1064
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 1: happy to have you when we can get you. Well,

1065
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: you won't have us full time, So I'm not I

1066
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: haven't seen that.

1067
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 6: I think that's a I guess I appreciate it.

1068
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 5: A very fitting re entry there from Caleb Zeomer. This

1069
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 5: from Anthony Childress, who's a P one listener to Caleb's

1070
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 5: point about fandom. I am an Notre Dame football fan

1071
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 5: and an IU basketball fan. I need them gaze to

1072
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 5: open from me too.

1073
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can help.

1074
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: I love it.

1075
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: And you want to talking about P one. He's been

1076
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: with us forever, he had children, he's been he's been terrific.

1077
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 1: And by the way, uh, you're getting a lot of

1078
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: discussion on the text line today, Caleb. I'm glad, Greg

1079
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: he says. Let me guess Caleb is also a Warriors

1080
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: and a Dodgers fan too, My my professional sports fan.

1081
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 6: It is also weird, but it's it's not that bad.

1082
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Speaker 1: I promise.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 1: I love and Kyle from Fisher says too. Butler basketball

1085
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: fan Notre Dame football fan, James, am I saved what

1086
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 1: am I supposed to do? Die harden the FCS circuit.

1087
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 1: I do pay some of my attention to be you football.

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00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 5: Me and me and God are pretty close. So I

1089
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 5: have some conversations later today and see if I can

1090
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Speaker 5: you know, passed along.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did want to give a shout out to

1092
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: We've been talking about the Merry and women's basketball team

1093
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: and a lot of our checkdowns this past couple of weeks.

1094
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: The women's basketball teams playing for the NAI championship this week.

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Speaker 2: I want to say tonight tonight they've been my number

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Speaker 2: two team. I think it was Dakota, Yeah, Wesley and

1097
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaken, last night there so they got

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Speaker 2: the number one team.

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Speaker 1: In all the lands.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is I believe tonight in Sioux's city

1101
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 2: for the may and Marion have just been an absolute

1102
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Speaker 2: wagon over the years.

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Speaker 1: We'll have some more details on that coming up in

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Speaker 1: the checkdown at a moment here.

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00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's to Kenna Kirby, her brother listens to our show.

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00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 5: He's in the YouTube check Kyle Kirby said, hey, can

1107
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Speaker 5: you give her a shout out?

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Speaker 1: So there we gots Kenna try West fin Us.

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00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: I know they have I think, if I want to believe,

1110
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Speaker 2: two or three of their starters from the state of Indiana.

1111
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, they've been a tremendous program there. So I

1112
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Speaker 2: want to say it's tonight at eight.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll talk more about that coming up in

1114
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Speaker 1: the checkdown. Meanwhile, a reminder April thirtieth, it's starting to

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Speaker 1: fill up a little bit. Legends Golf Club gonna be

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Speaker 1: When I say former players, we're talking about Cincinnati Ritz

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Speaker 1: Brownsburg's own Kevin can't wait for that. We just got

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Speaker 1: done talking to Tyler not too long ago. Tucker Tucker

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Speaker 1: Barnehearts are about that. Do I say, Tyler? There we

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Speaker 1: invited to man, come on down.

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Speaker 6: I'm planning on being there in some capacity.

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Speaker 1: Last night, the Indiana Pacers snapping a sixteen game losing streak.

1141
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: That's a franchise record, and Kevin, to put that into

1142
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: perspective again, you've been talking about it, but for people

1143
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: just joining us and waking up this morning, the last

1144
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: time they won a game was the week of the

1145
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: Super Bowl.

1146
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has been quite quite a lot. I believe

1147
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 2: that's pre All Star Break that adds any sort of

1148
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 2: perspective for that.

1149
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 5: Does All Star Break seems like a lifetime ago?

1150
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, for those that didn't watch last night,

1151
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: I did think it was fitting. The Big Three really

1152
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: made so many plays to kind of seal it last night.

1153
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 2: Aaron E. Smith patting it offensive rebound and trying to

1154
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: keep a possession alive, Andrew Nemhard patting it step back

1155
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 2: left wing, late shot clock. I thought that was gonna

1156
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: be the icer but ended up not being it. And

1157
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: then and it almost seems like Jay Huff deserves a

1158
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 2: half a block on the last play. You know, I

1159
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 2: felt like when Paula Boncaro Magic are down two, they

1160
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: inbounded to Don Carroll, he gets kind of that early

1161
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 2: step on Siakam and Jay Huff did a wonderful job

1162
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 2: of kind of getting to the front of the rim

1163
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: there and trying to do his best, you know, Roy

1164
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 2: Hibbert verticality, and that made bon Caro have to kind

1165
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: of adjust a little bit, and then Siakam kind of

1166
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 2: cleaned it up from the backside there. I'll be curious

1167
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: with the two minute reports us today on that one,

1168
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: but certainly the Magic we're hoping for a call the

1169
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 2: magic I have been real and they lost four in

1170
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: a row. Obviously, the Pacers say hold my beer when

1171
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,839
Speaker 2: it comes to that. But yeah, for those that are

1172
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: all in on the tank and very worried about what

1173
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: that win means, the Pacers have lost so much they

1174
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 2: could afford a win. Now do you want to see

1175
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: them win?

1176
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 3: Three?

1177
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: Or four?

1178
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: Here and the last line again, again.

1179
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: The Pacers could afford a win, just they could afford

1180
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: maybe two wins now. I don't want to get too

1181
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: too greedy for those looking at the odds, but not

1182
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 2: to nerd over any of the math. But they are

1183
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: still in a very comfortable position to secure the best odds.

1184
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: And to remind everybody, the best odds are what is

1185
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 2: it fourteen percent for the first pick, and I think

1186
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: it's fifty two percent for a top four pick. So again,

1187
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: it's not like these are overwhelmingly great odds, but they

1188
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: are still the best odds you can have if you

1189
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 2: have the first, second, or third worst record, those are

1190
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Speaker 2: the odds coming your way. Here one mother for the lottery.

1191
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: Well, they got the win last night over Orlando. Pascal

1192
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: Siakam was terrific. As always, He's got I know that

1193
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: people talk really well of him, spoke really well of

1194
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: him going into the All Star break and getting to

1195
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Speaker 1: the All Star team. But there isn't one team in

1196
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,240
Speaker 1: the NBA they wouldn't like to have them some Pascal

1197
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,800
Speaker 1: Siakam is there, James, not one, not a single team.

1198
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Speaker 2: My boy can do it all.

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Speaker 5: He is mister pacer this year especially, so that looked

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00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 5: like he really enjoyed that one last night. And we

1201
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 5: all know Pascal Siakam is a winner. So it should

1202
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 5: be a lot more of that come next season.

1203
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again you start to take a look at

1204
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: what they have left and what they have to do.

1205
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: It's going to be really difficult to not have one

1206
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: of the four worst records in the NBA. I think

1207
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Speaker 1: the fifth worst records Utah. Right now. I think they're

1208
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: five full games behind the Jazz. They'd really have to

1209
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,399
Speaker 1: go on a run here to screw that four. One

1210
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: of the four worst records.

1211
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Speaker 2: Up Lakers tomorrow. You know, I do think about this.

1212
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: A is Lebron is whatever walking up the seventeenth or

1213
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 2: eighteenth hole here of his career. I'd have to double

1214
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: check this. I believe the pacers of the team Lebron

1215
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: has played the most in his career. You add up

1216
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: all the games, it is the Pacers. So yeah, to

1217
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 2: James's point, Lebron definitely strikes me as an individual that

1218
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 2: will want to celebrate his swan song a little bit more.

1219
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 2: But you know whatever, if he gets hurt next year,

1220
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: you know, tomorrow night could be the last one. Or

1221
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: if he doesn't play obviously tomorrow I could be it

1222
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 2: for those that are curious about it. Again, Ben mcmatherin Friday,

1223
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: but I believe that toe injury still flaring up for him.

1224
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 2: He has not played in the last week or so.

1225
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: So PACER's now back at home for three here they

1226
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 2: got ten games left in the regular season.

1227
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Speaker 1: Okay, we were talking about Lebron jameson who was with

1228
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: Cleveland for a while. Mister Ohio, were you a Calvs

1229
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,720
Speaker 1: fan only when Lebron played for Cleveland or has that hour.

1230
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 6: To see and people will probably we questioned my loyalty

1231
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:03,320
Speaker 6: based on my college fandom, But I stayed a Cavs

1232
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 6: fan throughout Okay, so even when he left both times.

1233
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Speaker 1: So where were you at during that thrilling playoff series

1234
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: last year?

1235
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Speaker 6: At home? Listening to some of these shows on these

1236
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 6: airwaves salty, but also taking my medicine because yeah, I

1237
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 6: mean the pace what the Pacers did was special.

1238
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: So but yeah, I thought Mitchell was just gonna die

1239
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: of exhaustion by game.

1240
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 6: He gave it his all. Man, I Kevin, I am.

1241
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 6: I just met the pace of the Pacers just wore

1242
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 6: him down that too. Now, Kevin, I am excited for tomorrow.

1243
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 6: Just any time I think one of the greatest players,

1244
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 6: and no matter what you think about him, anytime one

1245
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 6: of the greatest players is is in the area and

1246
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 6: coming to the city, like, I think, it's always interesting.

1247
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 6: I went to the Laker Pacer game last year and

1248
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 6: it was extremely exciting. It's just and yes.

1249
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 2: It was.

1250
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 6: And I just think anytime Lakers are a national brand,

1251
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 6: national team, so you get a lot of their fans

1252
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 6: on the road, and I think it's an event. So

1253
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 6: I think it's cool.

1254
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Lebron has had some very nice things to

1255
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: say about playing here, the atmosphere here, the regular season

1256
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 2: atmosphere here. You know, obviously I think we've played the

1257
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 2: audio here recently with him and Steve Nash in the podcast,

1258
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 2: whether they're talking specifically with Tyrese Haliburton on their podcast

1259
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: or talking about the Zubats trade. You know, he's had

1260
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 2: very glowing remarks about Indiana's current iteration. I was thinking

1261
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 2: about this yesterday, James. I know you you brought up

1262
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 2: the Zubot's broken ribs situation out for the year, and

1263
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 2: this is kind of where I do compare things a

1264
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,320
Speaker 2: little bit to the Colts in the Sauce Gardener trade,

1265
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: and it's kind of a reminder of a month and

1266
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 2: a half from now when the lottery does arrive here

1267
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 2: and the Pacers sit there and they've got those ping

1268
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 2: pong balls, and again, even with their current situation, they

1269
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 2: still have just a coin flip chance, just slightly above

1270
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,479
Speaker 2: a coin flip chance and getting the top four pick.

1271
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 2: But you know, for Sauce Gardner, he played what was

1272
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 2: it four games? Is that what he played, James yep

1273
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 2: with with the Colts Zubots it was five games here

1274
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: and obviously there are a lot of circumstances around Zubots,

1275
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 2: but to me, it's just a reminder when you make

1276
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: these trades, multiple draft picks for one player and then

1277
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: the Pacers case. You know, Benedict Matheren definitely has done

1278
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 2: more in his professional career than Ady Mitchell. But again,

1279
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: multiple first round picks for one player and you're throwing

1280
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: in another young piece that is offering somewhat of intrigue

1281
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: around the league. It puts so much individual pressure on

1282
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 2: that one player to hit to be successful because that's

1283
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 2: the only piece of the trade you're getting. So for

1284
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 2: the Colts, they have to have Sauce Gardner available and

1285
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: being one of the unquestioned best cornerbacks in the entire NFL. Yeah,

1286
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: And for the Pacers, they obviously sit here and in

1287
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 2: a month and a half will know was the trade

1288
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: one or was it two? The one is Zubots Well again,

1289
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: any little nick injury, any little just slight chink in

1290
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 2: the armor, it's blown up because he's the only part

1291
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 2: of the trade. Now again, in a month and a

1292
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 2: half from now, you might have another piece in that trade.

1293
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 2: You might have that top four pick. So that's what

1294
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 2: I think. Just it was a reminder of me when

1295
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 2: I saw that news. Well, not the magnitude of Sauce Gardener,

1296
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 2: because you can't really compare the franchises right now in

1297
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 2: their recent runs here from a winning standpoint, But James,

1298
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: it's like when you make two first round picks plus

1299
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: young piece, whether it's Ady Mitchell, whether it's been Nick

1300
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 2: matheren Man, there's so much pressure on that individual guy

1301
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 2: that you get in return. And for the Pacers case,

1302
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 2: there's so much pressure on the coin flip that's coming

1303
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: here in a month and a half.

1304
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 5: And that's basically what it is right now. What is

1305
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 5: it fifty two point one percent chance of getting a

1306
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 5: top four pick, and it's greater than not, but still

1307
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 5: that is quite the gamble, quite the risk. And we

1308
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 5: talked about a lot here on these airwaves, Kevin and Jeff.

1309
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 5: But if you do want to find a silver lining

1310
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 5: for circumstances that you currently do not necessarily control fully,

1311
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 5: it's that, in my opinion, the Pacers have earned this

1312
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 5: level of trust. You've seen them flip it in a

1313
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 5: matter of years. I mean my first year covering them

1314
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 5: was twenty twenty one to twenty two.

1315
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: And they were terrible.

1316
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 5: They make the big trade for Halliburton, who at the

1317
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 5: time was identified as a good player, but not all

1318
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 5: NBA top ten, you know, mister fourth quarter like we

1319
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 5: saw in last year's playoff run. Because in hindsight, if

1320
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 5: everyone knew Halliburn was going to be that the price

1321
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 5: would have been a lot higher for him, quite frankly.

1322
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 5: And so you make that trade and you see some progress,

1323
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 5: You make another huge trades, get Pascal Siakam and that

1324
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 5: helps you reach the finals. You pivot from Miles to

1325
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 5: Zubots now and you make another trade. And so, yes,

1326
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 5: there's risk. Yes you have a valid reason to feel like, man,

1327
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 5: this might not work. But I feel more confident in

1328
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 5: that front office than for the Colts, because the Colts

1329
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 5: have not delivered. They have not had the same level

1330
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 5: of success, or really any success within the last five

1331
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 5: years of this playoff list season after season.

1332
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. I think the Pacers deep down

1333
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: would even say, yes, we believe in ourselves. We also

1334
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: know it's a coin flip. I mean, now it's out

1335
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 2: of your control.

1336
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 5: But how much do you think it's worth to make

1337
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 5: a move like this and tangentially tell your superstar, we

1338
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 5: think you're gonna be the same player and we're gonna

1339
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 5: go right back and compete for it again.

1340
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I don't wonder how much that is worth.

1341
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 5: I know you can't quantify it now because the ping

1342
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 5: pong balls haven't fallen, But I do think that's a

1343
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 5: big point to make because they're basically saying we're going

1344
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 5: all in again and you're gonna be our guy.

1345
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's worth something, But the talent's worth more.

1346
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 2: The actual player is worth more. Like that's a little

1347
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: bit of like, you know whatever, me trying to pump

1348
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: up Jeff and being like, Jeff, you have bitd your

1349
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 2: whole life. You are one of the most eat cyclists

1350
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 2: in the entire world. You go win the Tour de France,

1351
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 2: It's like, whoaha, whoa. So is it better given Sunday

1352
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 2: I could have Herb Brooks, I could have Denzel Washington,

1353
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 2: I could have Gordon bomb Bay's speeches till the End

1354
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 2: of Time. And you could say to Tyres Aliburn, look, man,

1355
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: we believe in you. Look what we're doing to you.

1356
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah, how about aj Debanson next to me?

1357
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 5: Do you think they will make sign off on this

1358
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 5: tray for zoobots if Halliburn's sitting there like, nah, just

1359
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 5: give me the top five pick, like they have to

1360
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,640
Speaker 5: do something right to get better, or would you ever

1361
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 5: prefer them as to just say, hey, we'll keep the

1362
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 5: pick and figure it out from there.

1363
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think and again this kind of gets back

1364
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 2: into the debate of how are you acquiring that center

1365
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: given the abundance of wings in this draft, theoretically given

1366
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 2: Benedict Matherin. You know, I think there's a looming thing

1367
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 2: with Matherin of would he have resigned here, and that

1368
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 2: answer I think a lot of people believe is no.

1369
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 2: So then at that point are you kind of saying,

1370
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: all right, this almost makes sense to us. We think

1371
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 2: he's a good talent, but we need a center, and

1372
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 2: if we can recoup the Matherin I say that in

1373
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 2: quotes in the draft, then that's the best avenue for us.

1374
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 2: So I think the Pacers would admit this is probably

1375
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 2: the riskiest move they have done. Of all of these ones.

1376
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 2: They've done, the trade for Haliburton, the trade for Siakam.

1377
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: I think they deep down say this is probably the

1378
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 2: risky one because again, a huge, huge part of the

1379
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 2: trade is literally coming down to a coin flip, a

1380
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 2: huge part.

1381
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: So good news. This is a very deep field and

1382
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: so if you do get one of those first four,

1383
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna get a really good player.

1384
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 2: Sure, I mean again, and that's probably why they've fit

1385
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 2: Pacers felt you know, very whatever comfortable about a top

1386
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 2: four pick protection. But you know what the math has said, right,

1387
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: the team with the worst record each of the last

1388
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 2: three years has gotten the fifth pick, right, so that

1389
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 2: continues for a fourth year. It's Zubats. That's it.

1390
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 5: Well, Laurie, you got to talk to guy later today

1391
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 5: about Caleb's fandom, So maybe I'll chime in there and

1392
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 5: be like, hey, by the way, don't.

1393
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 6: Ask for too much.

1394
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: Do you have a list like you carry around in

1395
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: your back pocket. You have a list of things you

1396
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: got to talk to?

1397
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, man, you know what they say, clothes,

1398
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 5: mails don't get fans off with the.

1399
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 6: God often, sorry, Pacer fans. Caleb takes priority here. Okay,

1400
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 6: he's first on the list to boot off the airwaves.

1401
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: Brother, you you are getting a lot of love on

1402
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: the textllent well, love and discussion. I should say it's

1403
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: great love and discussion. So that's that's always good stuff here. Uh,

1404
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: it's the Fan Morning Show, Kevin Bowen, James Boyd with

1405
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: his list in his back pocket, Caleb is uber with

1406
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: whoever whatever team is trending today. His favorite just call

1407
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: me a.

1408
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 6: Bandwagon bro, now, like come on, like it's loyalty first,

1409
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 6: but it is weird.

1410
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: Well it's weird.

1411
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 5: It's funny you mentioned that, Caleb, because now I'm on

1412
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 5: a tangent. I had a student reach out shout out

1413
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 5: to Bryson Hill from Ben Davis was one of my guys,

1414
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 5: and I've joined his podcast and talked to their little

1415
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 5: radio establishment over there, and he texted me and say

1416
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 5: he's doing a show on hot takes. So he asked me,

1417
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 5: what is your sports hot take? And I told them

1418
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 5: that I think bandwagon fans are geniuses. And I was

1419
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 5: kind of not being for real, but I do. This

1420
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 5: is my real hot take on sports. If you spend

1421
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 5: ten years with a miserable team but a miserable owner,

1422
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 5: I should say you should be able to leave with

1423
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 5: no ill will, no bandwagon talk, because bad owners will

1424
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 5: ruin your fandom.

1425
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 2: I'm so serious about that.

1426
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,160
Speaker 5: Like, if you're waiting around for fifty years for an

1427
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 5: owner to pass away, to get better, just leave, like

1428
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 5: ten years you have a clean slate, go join another

1429
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 5: team that's competent with a decent owner. I'm serious. Like,

1430
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 5: could you imagine being a Bulls fan right now their

1431
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,439
Speaker 5: owner is terrible? No, I wouldn't do it. So there's

1432
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 5: my hot take.

1433
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 6: Bengals fans.

1434
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: If your owner is bad, I'm so serio you.

1435
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 6: Can leave fan contracts like yes.

1436
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 2: Ten years, I'm out. We got this tweet here, he goes.

1437
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 2: I don't think Pacers wanted to extend Mather, and I

1438
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 2: don't think they're that excited about any of the top

1439
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 2: draft picks outside of the first four. So they got

1440
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 2: a player in Zobots that they know they love without

1441
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 2: giving up much in their eyes. Has Darius Acuff changed

1442
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 2: that conversation?

1443
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 3: He is awfully good.

1444
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 5: I don't think he's changed it for the Pacers if

1445
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 5: I understanding the question correctly, because they already have a

1446
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 5: point guard.

1447
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 2: Right, But the enticing nature of what the fifth overall

1448
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 2: pick would mean to other NBA teams, if not your own.

1449
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 5: Oh, I didn't thought could think about that part of it.

1450
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, And again, maybe we're not talking about Acuff at five.

1451
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 2: Maybe we're talking about him three. Yeah, and that puts

1452
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: Boozer or Wilson there at five. Like I think when

1453
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 2: this conversation happened, when was the Zubots trade right around February?

1454
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 3: Right?

1455
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 2: Oh, probably the last time the Pacers won. We talked

1456
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 2: about it. In a four person draft, I think Darius

1457
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: Acuff and to some people Kingston Flumming. It's like I

1458
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: think there are other people out there that feel like

1459
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 2: this draft is much more than the top four. Now,

1460
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 2: again to James's point, do you need that direct player necessarily? No,

1461
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean that the pick itself isn't worth

1462
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 2: something to the rest of the league. He had to

1463
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 2: think about that part of it. And then that comes

1464
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 2: back to the trade value aspect to the fifth overall

1465
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 2: pick in this year's draft is different than what it

1466
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 2: would look like in another draft.

1467
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 5: So Kevin Bown and Kevin Pritchard, boy, you all think

1468
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 5: of every scenario.

1469
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 1: It's to Kevin's yeahn square.

1470
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 2: Again, I'll go back to what I said yesterday, James.

1471
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: How many NBA franchise out there do you think would

1472
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 2: rather have the Airs a Cuff than Tyris Halliburn off

1473
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 2: of Torn Achilles? Are there any? There are some there

1474
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 2: have to be signed. There are some that are in

1475
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 2: the full rebuild mode. That's say, give me the nineteen

1476
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 2: year old versus the twenty six, twenty seven year old

1477
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 2: off the Achilles. And again that's not every team and

1478
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 2: that shouldn't be the Pacers thought, But I think that

1479
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 2: that just reiterates to me the value of what that

1480
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 2: pick can mean.

1481
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: All right, let's check it down. As we've been discussing

1482
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: the Innana Pacers Step Day franchise record sixteen game losing

1483
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 1: streak lege last night, they went it in Orlando one

1484
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: twenty eight, one twenty six, holding on. They had a

1485
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: one twenty eight one to twenty two lead with a

1486
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 1: little over three minutes to go, and then Polo Bancaro

1487
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: scored the last four points for Orlando. Was trying to

1488
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: tie it up at the end, he was blocked from

1489
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: behind by Pascal Siakam, in fronted there by Jay Huff.

1490
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: Pacers hold on. They win it their sixteen and fifty six.

1491
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: Pascal Siakam again, gotta shout this guy out thirty seven

1492
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: and six. But man, we talk about hanging on for

1493
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: dear life. How good was this guy last night?

1494
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 7: Both teams have two timeouts remaining. Nemhart brings it into

1495
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 7: the fore court. He's on the right side of the floor,

1496
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 7: up top to Siakam. Siakam right in, penetrates the arc

1497
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 7: back to the goal, flips it out to Nemart. Nemmart

1498
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 7: moves it to the left side line of three on

1499
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 7: the way and that is much needed.

1500
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: That was the last points scored for the Indiana Pacers,

1501
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: James a three ball a little over three minutes to go,

1502
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,919
Speaker 1: and they held on to get the win. But look

1503
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: at this line. This is I said this in the

1504
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: last hour, very tyrese Haliburton line for Andrew Nemhart last

1505
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:03,919
Speaker 1: night thirteen points, seven rebounds, fourteen assists. Man, he played

1506
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: good basketball last night. He was joined Pascal Siakam at

1507
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 1: thirty seven and six rebounds. Jeris Walker read twenty points.

1508
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: Aaron Neismith that at nineteen and he kept them going

1509
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: for a while. Aaron Nesmith was kind of a one

1510
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: man offensive show for a few minutes there.

1511
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 2: I thought, JERRYS. Walker, you know again with that starting unit.

1512
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 2: He had another nice night. But yeah, down the stretch,

1513
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 2: you're big three Nemhard that three of course, ni Smith

1514
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 2: just a tenacious, typical Aaron Nesmith off it's a rebound

1515
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 2: and then Siakam, you know, helping that top and shout

1516
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,240
Speaker 2: out to Jay Huff yea and the stat sheet that

1517
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 2: should go down as a half block for Jay Huff

1518
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 2: on that last play because I thought him getting to

1519
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 2: the rim made Paula bon Carroll have to adjust and

1520
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 2: that's where Siakam cleaned it.

1521
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: Up, all right, So they get that win. Now they

1522
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: return home to the Fieldhouse tomorrow night. They will host

1523
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 1: the Lakers seven pm tip six thirty year time right

1524
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: here on ninety three five and one O seven to

1525
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: five of the fan also due getting ready for the

1526
01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,879
Speaker 1: Sweet sixteen matchup against the Texas Longhorns. That'll be Thursday

1527
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: in San Jose seven to ten pm. Boilers are in

1528
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,759
Speaker 1: the Sweet sixteen seven in the last nine years. Matt

1529
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 1: Painter got his five hundredth career victory in the win

1530
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: last Sunday, twelve away from Gene Katie's all time school record,

1531
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 1: and so that'll probably be broken next year. Also the IHSAA,

1532
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: it's Championship time. Mount Vernon and four A takes on

1533
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 1: Crown Point Player of the Year Luke Erdle from Mount

1534
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: Vernon on his way to Purdue. The six to three

1535
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: Lefty talks about another shot at cron Point.

1536
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 2: You know, it'll be a great opportunity to kind of

1537
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 2: avenge that loss. And we were able to avenge our

1538
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 2: Heart Pike loss, so you know, getting an opportunity to

1539
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,839
Speaker 2: another crack at them. We'll just be exciting.

1540
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 1: Been a lefty point guard for Matt Painter next year,

1541
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 1: that'd be kind of fun to watch.

1542
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 2: Well. We had a lefty shoot it last night at

1543
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 2: the small ball event at Parks Place. There's just something

1544
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 2: beautiful about watching the left even in the even and

1545
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 2: a little small ball era where you know me. It's

1546
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 2: all about volume. It's about reps. It ain't about shooting

1547
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 2: ninety five percent. It's about getting balls up of the hoop,

1548
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 2: getting shots. People are looking across sided. I'm like, I

1549
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,719
Speaker 2: need two balls in each hand. Yeah, I need balls

1550
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 2: in hands, and these people are looking at me across.

1551
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, guys, it's about volume. And one of our

1552
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 2: best shooter. Shoutout Kim. She was outstanding. Fisher's mother out there,

1553
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 2: her kids were just going nuts for out there. Jeff

1554
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,599
Speaker 2: had a great performance, but Luke was our winner last night.

1555
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 2: I like it a thousand bucks and then you boot

1556
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 2: I went Luke. I felt like I was Chad for

1557
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 2: Herengodie again.

1558
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: People were like trying to buy Kevin another beer and

1559
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: he said, Luke, what are you talking about? Right? Luke?

1560
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: All right? Uh? Women Daniels last night, oh big time

1561
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 1: women's college basketball. Last night a NCUBLEA tournament Notre Dame

1562
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 1: Kevin a winner over Ohio State, the third seed, eighty

1563
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: three seventy three. How did I doggle? Not only did

1564
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: she have twenty six points and thirteen rebounds, but how

1565
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,880
Speaker 1: many steals in this NC DOUBLEA tournament game against a

1566
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:47,679
Speaker 1: three seed?

1567
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,839
Speaker 2: Yeah? Eight steals for her? She is an absolute theft

1568
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 2: thirteen rebounds at five foot six. I think it's probably

1569
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 2: worth mentioning. So Notre name women advanced the Sweet sixteen

1570
01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 2: for the straight year. And somewhere up there Lou Holtz

1571
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 2: yelling down at Ryan Day. You see that Ryan Day?

1572
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: How that tastes? Come on, Lou.

1573
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 1: Lou, I'd say, poor Ryan Day, but I don't feel

1574
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 1: bad for him at all. Man when he was sorry?

1575
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 5: How oh was Lou Holtz when that happened? Was he

1576
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 5: even with like a ninety year old?

1577
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 2: He was grief and with the man two years later

1578
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 2: rest in peace?

1579
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: Can you imagine?

1580
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 2: No, there's nothing nothing better than college football coaches.

1581
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: You're right, all right?

1582
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 2: Back to women's cousge. Ryan Day dies Beard. Absolutely he has.

1583
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 2: It's like jet black. Come on now, I mean that

1584
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 2: thing is just Yes, that is jet black, perfect way

1585
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 2: to describe.

1586
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Other women's college basketball news. Tonight, we've got a

1587
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: championship on the line and the Naia the Marion women,

1588
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 1: they are thirty four and two. They'll be taking on

1589
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: Dort University in Iowa, uh in Sioux City, Iowa. But

1590
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: listen to this, this is not gonna be easy. You

1591
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 1: talk about a wagon. This dork team is making their

1592
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: fourth appearance in the championship game in the last five years,

1593
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 1: their third consecutive. They are also thirty four and two

1594
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,519
Speaker 1: on the season, so Marian gets this one done tonight. Man,

1595
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: that is a big time, big time accomplishment either way.

1596
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: But they'll be taking on an NAIA power tonight. So

1597
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 1: good luck to them as we hope for the best there.

1598
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,600
Speaker 1: In the NFL, Jackson Smith and Jigba is now the

1599
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: highest wide receiver, highest paid wide receiver in NFL history.

1600
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: That man earned it. Have you seen him the last

1601
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: two years, especially this last season, James.

1602
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, had the great season at the great time, you know,

1603
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 5: and they won the Super Bowl. You get paid one

1604
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 5: more you want out of life right now? If you're

1605
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 5: Jackson all right.

1606
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: Pete Crow arm Strong in the Cubs closing in on

1607
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: a contract extension for him.

1608
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 2: He's not even twenty four yet, all right.

1609
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: Last year coming off a gold Glove season, just doing

1610
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: all kinds of things out there. He's fun to watch

1611
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:53,240
Speaker 1: in the otfield, that's for sure. Tiger Woods returns to

1612
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: swing a golf club tonight in competition. It's the Indoor

1613
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: Golf League. Some people like it, some people don't. Tgl

1614
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: they call it is the champion Hip match for his

1615
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,679
Speaker 1: Jupiter team. But it's just nice to see Tiger Woods

1616
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: feeling good enough to go swing the golf club in

1617
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:07,519
Speaker 1: a competitive.

1618
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 2: Arena two weeks till the Masters, got a.

1619
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:11,160
Speaker 1: Couple of weeks to go. We'll see how it goes.

1620
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 1: Maybe tonight's a little Let's see how I feel tomorrow morning.

1621
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 2: Do not tease me, Jeff Record, do not.

1622
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: All right, we'll look forward to that. Anything else you

1623
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: guys want to throw in.

1624
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 2: Before shout out Greg McDermott hanging it up yesterday, the

1625
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 2: longtime coach over there at Creighton. You know, I think

1626
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 2: back a few years ago, you guys, remember when San

1627
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 2: Diego State made their run to the title game. Creighton

1628
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: almost beat them in the Elite eight. Really should have

1629
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 2: beat them in the elite eight there. That's kind of

1630
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 2: a what what could have been for a guy that

1631
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,759
Speaker 2: you know, really had a very impressive run at Creighton

1632
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: there for a decade and a half. Ironically, the coach

1633
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 2: that will take over for him is Alan huss We

1634
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 2: had Alan on the show last year when he was

1635
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 2: the head coach at high Point. That was produced opening

1636
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 2: round opponent. Last season. Alan left there to go to Creighton.

1637
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 2: The thought there is long time Greg McDermot is assistant

1638
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 2: kind of coaching waiting. So yeah, Darren Freez connection of

1639
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 2: course with all of this involved, but we will have

1640
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: a couple of new opening several new openings right Providence

1641
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 2: in the Big East, Butler in the Big East, Creton

1642
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 2: in the Big East. So and now we await the

1643
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 2: white smoke there from Heickelfield House here coming up it

1644
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 2: sounds like later this week.

1645
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: All right, coming up in a moment, we will have

1646
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 1: one of the strangest stories I've seen in a long

1647
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: long time. You might even appreciate this one, Caleb, this

1648
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 1: is this is a weird one. We'll do all of

1649
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: that as we continue next coming up at nine o'clock. CJ.

1650
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: Moore from the athletic college basketball writer Bruce Weber will

1651
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: close out the show at nine to forty five and

1652
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,640
Speaker 1: the Big Ten Network, and we've got more for you

1653
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 1: as we continue in ninety three five and one O

1654
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: seven five The Fan.

1655
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 2: I need two balls in each hand. Yeah, I need

1656
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 2: balls in hands.

1657
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome into a Tuesday. It's The Fan Morning Show.

1658
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 1: James Boyd, Kevin Bowen, Caleb Zoover in for the always

1659
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,560
Speaker 1: vacationing Mark Dyked and I probably shouldn't talk because I

1660
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: took Monday off off yesterday, but I came back today.

1661
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't know when. When do you think we see

1662
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: Dyked in again? Caleb? Any idea?

1663
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 6: It should be next week?

1664
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 2: I think Okay, Indy five hundred week something like that. Yeah,

1665
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 2: he's only coming back Card Day.

1666
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:17,680
Speaker 1: Opening week for the Colts in the week before the

1667
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 1: five hundred, and we'll have him around. We'll have him around.

1668
01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 1: But anyway, every once in a while, guys, you see

1669
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: a headline and you're like, wait, what, I have so

1670
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: many questions, and then I read the article and I

1671
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 1: still have more questions. I don't know if you guys

1672
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: saw this. Just want your raw reaction to this headline.

1673
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: Quadruple amputee cornhole professional jailed on murder charges.

1674
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 6: It's eight thirty six in the morning. I was not

1675
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 6: ready for that.

1676
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: Sorry, James, you're a professional journalist. Your reaction to quadruple

1677
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: amputee cornhole professional jailed on murder charges? How why? What? Yeah?

1678
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 5: It sounds like I'm mad lib here reols from back

1679
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 5: in the day.

1680
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 2: I've always thought if I could go pro and anything,

1681
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 2: it might be corner.

1682
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 1: You think you have what it takes to compete against

1683
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:09,839
Speaker 1: the quadruple ambutent.

1684
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 2: I thought, I, did you know, a couple of years ago,

1685
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 2: I'll never forget playing Jim Sorgiy and his buddy and

1686
01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 2: some charity event out of Hendricks County and Jim Soorgi

1687
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,799
Speaker 2: NFL quarterback, think his buddy was a major league baseball

1688
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 2: player at some point. And my my friend Shawn and

1689
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 2: I just, I mean, we're cocky, we're confident, We're like,

1690
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,600
Speaker 2: we're gonna dust these professional athletes. The next thing you know,

1691
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,040
Speaker 2: it was like twenty one to four, kind of like the.

1692
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: NFL guys playing against the flag football guys just humbled.

1693
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 5: Well, I feel like the only thing I could do

1694
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 5: confidently and beat a professional athlete in is Carson Towed

1695
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 5: in free throws?

1696
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 2: I think I could take him down.

1697
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: Okay, what kind of free throw percentage guy?

1698
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:45,720
Speaker 2: Are you?

1699
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: Do you think?

1700
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 5: I think I shot like sixty eight percent in high school.

1701
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 5: Not great, but from what I saw for Carson Taut

1702
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:56,719
Speaker 5: it was thirty two senior year. So Carson, I'm calling

1703
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 5: you out.

1704
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: It's a rough one.

1705
01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,559
Speaker 5: Never give him the field with you because you're built

1706
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 5: like a Greek, but free throws I might have you beat.

1707
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 2: So for the last month of the year, he tried

1708
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:05,360
Speaker 2: to bank in every free throw.

1709
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm to try something. Rick Ferry's always said

1710
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 1: he doesn't understand why these guys that really struggle from

1711
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 1: the free throw line don't adopt his underhanded because he says,

1712
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Everybody laughs at it because it looks funny,

1713
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: but the control you have and the backspin and everything else,

1714
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Why wouldn't a guy that shoots forty percent

1715
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 1: at least try that? Because it doesn't look cool, so

1716
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 1: you'd rather suck than.

1717
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 5: Do we know of anybody else who sided underhand? That

1718
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 5: side it well? Though, besides him.

1719
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:37,640
Speaker 1: I don't even very other people just didn't do it.

1720
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: I mean the man was an all time ninety percent.

1721
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 1: I think he was over ninety percent all time for

1722
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 1: his entire career. It was almost automatic. It was crazy.

1723
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 1: But how'd you do? How'd your score hold up yesterday?

1724
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 1: In the in the in the pop, in the in

1725
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: the mini ball.

1726
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 3: Oh.

1727
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 2: I was just there to hand out the thousand dollars?

1728
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: But did you try? Did you put anything out?

1729
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 2: I was out of competitor. I tried to the Bulldog

1730
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 2: few weeks back. Very I was very pleased with my

1731
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 2: with my effort there good. So yeah, we had a

1732
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 2: fun turn on would you have been competitive against some

1733
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 2: of the better players? Well, it's easy to do when

1734
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 2: you're not playing for a thousand dollars. I mean you

1735
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,520
Speaker 2: should have seen our qualifying round scores versus the finals.

1736
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 2: There is a quote, the quote Marshall Mathers. There were

1737
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 2: some weak knees and arms are a little heavy, and

1738
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: there might have been a little split up on the

1739
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 2: sweater already.

1740
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 1: So spaghetti, Mom, Spaghetti. Didn't Kim Bessinger play his mom?

1741
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 2: Nothing better than mom's spaghett didn't she play in Detroit?

1742
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 6: I don't know if you know this. In Detroit they

1743
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 6: have a little spaghetti. It's not even a restaurant, it's

1744
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 6: kind of like has. It's in an alley in downtown

1745
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 6: and it's got a little like drive through window on

1746
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 6: the side, and it's called Mom's Spaghetti, and you can

1747
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 6: go up there and order Moms Spaghetti in Detroit four.

1748
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: I need to go next.

1749
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 6: Time anybody's in Detroit, look up mom Spaghetti.

1750
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of the random places like the

1751
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 5: Hole in the Wall establishment.

1752
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 2: Those are always the best.

1753
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 5: But I know we haven't talked a lot of Colts

1754
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 5: this morning, Kevin, but this time I believe next week

1755
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 5: we could be hearing from the Colts brass. So I'll

1756
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 5: leave it pretty open ended for both of you all.

1757
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 5: But what are some topics or questions you may have

1758
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 5: for those in power that I'll definitely be asking come

1759
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 5: next week.

1760
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: We're gonna use that as a tease and coming up

1761
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 1: in a moment, we were going to talk about the

1762
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,600
Speaker 1: Colts and what they have to look forward to for

1763
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 1: the rest of this offseason, which starts with those owners'

1764
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: meetings coming up pretty quickly. Here that's coming up next.

1765
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 1: It's ninety three five and one oh seven five. The

1766
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:40,600
Speaker 1: fan knew this was coming Caleb, good job out of you.

1767
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 2: This was a layup.

1768
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 1: I could listen to this one all day long. Just

1769
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: put it on a repeat, man.

1770
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 6: I hope Fletcher Lawyer and Braden Smith are listening to

1771
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 6: this for the next.

1772
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 2: Couple of days. Oh, that is a good question.

1773
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 5: I would like to ask what is in the headset

1774
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 5: of the n all time assist leader going into the

1775
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 5: sweet sixteen.

1776
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 2: But I know we talk a lot of college basketball.

1777
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,720
Speaker 5: We'll talk more of that at the top of the

1778
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 5: hour with my colleagues CJ. More from the athletic but

1779
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 5: on the colts front. This time next week I will

1780
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,760
Speaker 5: be out in Phoenix and we'll be waiting to hear

1781
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 5: from the colts brass. So, as I told you all

1782
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 5: before the break, or asked you all before the break,

1783
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 5: what are the things that are top of mind that

1784
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 5: you will want to throw at carlro say Gordon, assuming

1785
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 5: she speaks as well as Chris baalor.

1786
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: First of all her impressions on the offseason to this

1787
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 1: point in time, what are your thoughts as look, this

1788
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: is your first off season as the person in charge.

1789
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 1: How do you think it's going, How would you rate it?

1790
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: How would you say this is this team better in

1791
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: your opinion than they were at the end of the season,

1792
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 1: because that's the question everybody has on Colts fans' minds

1793
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 1: right now. Are they any better? And it's starting to

1794
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 1: look more and more Kevin, Maybe I'm missing it, but

1795
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 1: it felt like they were kind of all in on

1796
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:01,759
Speaker 1: Trey Hennery and then when that whole thing went sideways

1797
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: with the Ravens and the and the Raiders trade with

1798
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: Max Max Crosby, and then the Ravens ended up getting Hendrickson,

1799
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 1: it felt like they were kind of left holding the

1800
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: bag a little bit.

1801
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's how I kind of view it

1802
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 2: as well. So, yeah, James, you know the higher sense

1803
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 2: of urgency you heard from Carly at the end of

1804
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 2: the season. You know, when it boils down to an

1805
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 2: offseason standpoint, did it really just be Trey Hendrickson and

1806
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 2: then Ruggs kind of pulled out from under you? And

1807
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 2: was there really no plan B or I guess even

1808
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 2: playing C And who knows. We'll see what the next

1809
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 2: month plays out here before the draft, because in one way,

1810
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 2: the Colts have been different this season. Like I when

1811
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 2: you use the phrase run it back, I don't think

1812
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: that's an accurate way to describe the offseason. Now they

1813
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 2: haven't gone out and made I would say notable offseason moves.

1814
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 2: So you know, people were probably a little bit confused

1815
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 2: by that statement. But when you look at it, they've

1816
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 2: lost four I would say, of their top whatever eight

1817
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 2: ten players in the Chris Baward era from a game's

1818
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:10,799
Speaker 2: played standpoint, Brain Smith, Michael Pittman Jr. Quitty pay, Zia Franklin.

1819
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,679
Speaker 2: Now some would say, hey, those guys needed to leave,

1820
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 2: but again, have you upgraded from them? I think that's

1821
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 2: the debate that you get into. So I don't know

1822
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,960
Speaker 2: if it's necessarily going to matter, Like it hasn't been

1823
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 2: the true run it back, which a lot of people

1824
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 2: have understandably been critical of Ballad for. But now here

1825
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 2: they are getting rid of some of their mainstay colts.

1826
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 2: Will it matter at all? That would probably be a

1827
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:44,640
Speaker 2: question that I would have.

1828
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 1: That's kind of what you wrote about in your latest

1829
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: one of the piece, which he had.

1830
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 2: Someone reply to me on Twitter saying like the Texans

1831
01:22:55,000 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 2: overpaid for Braden Smith, Michael Pittman Jr. Was overpaid, Ankle

1832
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:04,839
Speaker 2: was overpaid given the you know, lack of splash plays.

1833
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 2: Same thing for quitty pay. And so this person's basically saying,

1834
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 2: I'd call it a win for the Colts. Would you

1835
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,439
Speaker 2: call that a win James getting rid of those four?

1836
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 5: If I had to run through the four more time?

1837
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 1: Zire Franklin, Michael Pittman Jr.

1838
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,720
Speaker 2: Again, Texans overpaid for Braden Smith. Michael Pittman Junior was

1839
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 2: an overpay. Ziera was an overpay for lack of production

1840
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 2: quitty pay. Same thing this person says.

1841
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 3: Call Yeah.

1842
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 5: The one that I feel perhaps worst about is probably Pittman.

1843
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 5: I get to this contract was probably too high to

1844
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,120
Speaker 5: keep him on the roster, But I think he's a

1845
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 5: good player and he was a big part of their offense.

1846
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 5: They're leading guy in catches for the last five years.

1847
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 5: The other three I could kind of see or foresee

1848
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 5: them not being here.

1849
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1850
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 5: I don't think that that necessarily is a net win

1851
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:59,600
Speaker 5: because you haven't replaced him. That's my thing, Like I

1852
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 5: can say, you saying, up, you know, Braden Smith, we

1853
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 5: had enough eight years and by the way, shots Braiden

1854
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 5: Smith been through a lot, posted recently on his Instagram

1855
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 5: thanking Indianapolis before moving on to Houston. But I look

1856
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 5: at Okay, what have you done to replace those snaps?

1857
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 5: Not necessarily the level of play, Like you can say

1858
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 5: Zion Franklin isn't a starting linebacker in the defense we

1859
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 5: have lu and Roumo. Well, then who is like is

1860
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 5: that some of the guys you've signed?

1861
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:32,880
Speaker 2: Yep, like Keim Davis gather Like, is he a starter

1862
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: for you?

1863
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 5: He started thirteen games last year And if you look

1864
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 5: at some of his coverage numbers, whatever metric you want

1865
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,879
Speaker 5: to use, whether it's Next Gen Stats or Pro Football

1866
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 5: Reference or whatever other outlets we utilize, all of them,

1867
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 5: say he wasn't great in coverage. So in what ways

1868
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 5: do you think this team has grown? And that's kind

1869
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 5: of what I want to get to the root of

1870
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 5: next week in Phoenix is okay, urgency is high. You

1871
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 5: made some big changes to get some big names out

1872
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 5: of here, But where are the big names that you in?

1873
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, the overpay is probably an accurate way

1874
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:08,959
Speaker 2: to describe some of those four players, But that doesn't

1875
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 2: mean that necessarily you've gotten any better right at those spots. Again,

1876
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 2: we can get into the financial math of it, but

1877
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 2: let's just call out individual names that are currently On

1878
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 2: March twenty fourth, supplanting those guys Jalen Travis at right tackle,

1879
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:31,679
Speaker 2: Nick Westbrook, A Kine at wide receiver, A Keem Davis,

1880
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 2: Gaither at linebacker, Art and Key at defensive end.

1881
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 5: Now again those four times said safety, like right right right, if.

1882
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 2: You want to throw a crossing there, Yeah, So like

1883
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 2: those four names again right here, right now. We still

1884
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 2: have a month to play out. But I think to

1885
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 2: do anything substantial, it'll be more of a trade than anything.

1886
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 2: And then obviously you have the draft, but you only

1887
01:25:55,439 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 2: have two picks on the top hundred. You don't have

1888
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 2: a first round pick. One question James that I would like,

1889
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 2: and obviously I know you're going to ask something along

1890
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 2: these lines of, you know, you have what thirty million

1891
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 2: in cap space? Will that just be sad on? Was

1892
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 2: it really just Trey Hendrickson or bust with that cap space?

1893
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 2: That's the other thing, like you're not cash strapped, We're

1894
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:17,400
Speaker 2: not sitting there movings moves with Franklin and Pittman. In particular,

1895
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 2: you traded those guys not because I think you were

1896
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 2: done with them. I think you traded them because you

1897
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 2: said we need to create some cap space elsewhere. Well,

1898
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 2: where is the elsewhere. That's where I sit here and

1899
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 2: struggle and them confused.

1900
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 1: And again they're they're probably their top season, their top

1901
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 1: off season priorities one and two where Daniel Jones and

1902
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce they did accomplish that. But they have those

1903
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 1: guys last year. So are they in fact any better

1904
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 1: this year?

1905
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 2: Exactly, Jeff.

1906
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 5: When I ran through my updated depth chart last week,

1907
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 5: I believe it was in my opinion, I didn't even

1908
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:56,480
Speaker 5: count those guys as additions because they were here last year. So, yeah,

1909
01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 5: you got the money, but where is it going to

1910
01:26:58,160 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 5: be spent?

1911
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 1: And again you still to look at that we've done

1912
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:02,760
Speaker 1: it before. But you start to look at the list

1913
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 1: of edge rushers that are available, they are older and

1914
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: some of them expensive coming off injuries. Are you better

1915
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: off just taking a swing in the draft than going

1916
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: after guys like Leonard Floyd, cam Jordan Joey Bosa at

1917
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 1: this point in time, Kevin.

1918
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 2: Well, when you've read this list before, Jeff, it sounds

1919
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 2: like you're reading it in twenty twenty one.

1920
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, five years agould have been a tremendous, tremendous thing.

1921
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 1: One name that does intrigue me a little bit though,

1922
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 1: and the market value per spot track is about five

1923
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: million dollars. Thirty one year old. Is son Reddick interest

1924
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 1: you at all?

1925
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 2: You know? I think at this point you've walked into

1926
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,679
Speaker 2: the gas station and you can't believe that the shelves

1927
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 2: have been ransacked as much as they have. So do

1928
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:53,680
Speaker 2: I really have to eat a heath bar?

1929
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: Well?

1930
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 2: My next gas stations in seventy three miles, all right,

1931
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:58,640
Speaker 2: looks like I have to eat it.

1932
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:00,799
Speaker 1: You know. You just get one of those brand potato

1933
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 1: chip bags. You'll be in good shape. Man.

1934
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 2: What an analogy.

1935
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 5: Because someone used to drive a lot as a high

1936
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 5: school sports supporter, I can relate like, there's nothing worse

1937
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 5: than going to the gas station. You've got your heart

1938
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 5: set on this certain brand of chips and they just

1939
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:13,839
Speaker 5: aren't there.

1940
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,600
Speaker 2: Right, I mean, hasn't have been allowed for Reddick? I

1941
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 2: not I'm not up to date on the Hassan Reddick career, but.

1942
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 1: He was tremendous with Carolina that he goes to the Giants.

1943
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:27,599
Speaker 1: It was still pretty good. I mean, he's not a terrible, terrible.

1944
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I've heard his name much. Five

1945
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,639
Speaker 1: million years. My point is, is five million a year working?

1946
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1947
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 5: He was with Hassan Redick. Yeah, the last few years

1948
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:38,679
Speaker 5: he was with Philly, the jetson and Tampa.

1949
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 3: Last year.

1950
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 1: That's right, Philly, not the Giants done anything.

1951
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 2: He has not.

1952
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 5: He had two and a half sacks last year. He

1953
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 5: hasn't had double digit sacksons twenty twenty three.

1954
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 2: It's been a minute, but he has three and a

1955
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 2: half sacks.

1956
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,800
Speaker 1: The bringing him up is that's what you're looking at.

1957
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 2: We'll look past him. James Boys getting one of those

1958
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 2: bruised bananas out of the basket. I pa, he's got

1959
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 2: left there before he's driving the Lake Central. At least

1960
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:05,639
Speaker 2: I'll stay hydrated, no cramping in the car. All right,

1961
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,640
Speaker 2: Coming to my man's, get an oatmeal cream pie and

1962
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 2: call it today.

1963
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 1: Come on, now, what is your what is your biggest

1964
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 1: guilty pleasure from a convenience store? Zebra cake?

1965
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 2: I like the guardetto garlic chips like.

1966
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like the only time I ever eat

1967
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 5: hot Cheetos is in the car driving some man.

1968
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:28,040
Speaker 2: You better got some napkins, bro, Yeah, man red fingers.

1969
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 1: For me, it's either son chips. I like it. I

1970
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 1: like the cheddar So.

1971
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:34,559
Speaker 6: I think that's guilty guilty.

1972
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 1: I got a better one for you though. How about

1973
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 1: how about the nibs, the licorice nibs. Okay, I like those,

1974
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 1: but they're a little individual lickoric chunk. Okay, right, twizzlers,

1975
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 1: I think there.

1976
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 2: James, I know we got a hit of break, but

1977
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 2: I know Purdue fans will want to hear from our

1978
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 2: next guest. The CJ. Moore story with Braden Smith was

1979
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 2: pretty cool.

1980
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:55,240
Speaker 5: Yes, excited to talk to him. He has been all

1981
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,759
Speaker 5: over Purdue throughout the tournament. So that is next.

1982
01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 1: All right, that's on the way. Ninety three five one

1983
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 1: them five the fan, James, you ever take part in

1984
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 1: Taco Tuesday?

1985
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 4: No?

1986
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 5: I feel like I am a fan of eating tacos

1987
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 5: any day of the week.

1988
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a seven day a week food right there.

1989
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 1: But specifically ever go Taco Tuesday, Kevin or.

1990
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 2: Just yeah, you know, growing up, I Colleen Bowen with

1991
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 2: a big old staple there. You know, chicken one night

1992
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:22,320
Speaker 2: a week, tacos one night a week, you know, pizza Fridays.

1993
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did it all. That's a good thing, right there.

1994
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm all for that. But welcome into a Tuesday morning.

1995
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 1: Of course, PACER's snapping a sixteen game losing streak last

1996
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 1: night on the road against Palo Bancaro and the Orlando Magic.

1997
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 1: They'll be back at home against the Lakers tomorrow night,

1998
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: and we're getting ready for a Thursday Sweet sixteen game,

1999
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,639
Speaker 1: perdue in Texas. Perdue back in the Sweet sixteen again.

2000
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:47,640
Speaker 1: But man, you look at this sixteen teams, it is

2001
01:30:47,680 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 1: a gauntlet, James. I know everybody only has to worry

2002
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 1: about their own particular region, but man, when you look

2003
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 1: at it from ten thousand feet, the teams, the coaches,

2004
01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 1: this is just a this is battle royale, this is

2005
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 1: wwe mon I were all worthy right here, man, absolutely? Uh.

2006
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 1: You got all the number one seeds for the most

2007
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 1: part still remaining. There's one gun, Florida's gun. Were you

2008
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,679
Speaker 1: got surprise to see Florida get best?

2009
01:31:12,439 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 5: I was surprised in the way in which they got bounced.

2010
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 5: I'll say that because that was so I did read

2011
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:21,760
Speaker 5: about this, Kevin, and they play too foul. That was

2012
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:23,679
Speaker 5: their plan. They wanted to.

2013
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 1: Foul, and they're up to right time right because.

2014
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:29,600
Speaker 5: They felt like they would either win the game and

2015
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 5: regulation if they if they made two free throws and

2016
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 5: tied it because the last possession, or they would win

2017
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:34,759
Speaker 5: it in overtime.

2018
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 2: That seems like the dumbest analytic thought of all of them.

2019
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,640
Speaker 2: And I'm one that likes to listen to some of

2020
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:44,680
Speaker 2: the crazy analytic thoughts. So again, let's let's play this

2021
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 2: out a little bit more. Here we're talking about Florida

2022
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 2: is up two and they were going to foul simply

2023
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 2: to try and get the last. They don't trust their

2024
01:31:58,200 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 2: defense up.

2025
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 5: To Yeah, boy, and I get it, like the analytics

2026
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:04,679
Speaker 5: say whatever, But that's the one.

2027
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 2: Time analytics say like, I guess it's like you have

2028
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 2: a greater chance of extending the game, or talk.

2029
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: About putting pressure on the kids shooting free throws too.

2030
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 1: Let's see if he has the Yeah.

2031
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:19,960
Speaker 2: But man, sometimes if you Galaxy Brown, I'm with you.

2032
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 2: If you don't let Bennett starts get a running downhill,

2033
01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,560
Speaker 2: start looking like Usain Bolt, then you know Stirts is

2034
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,040
Speaker 2: gonna shoot some crazy shot. That's him. So if he

2035
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:31,600
Speaker 2: shoots an off balance forty footer, I'd rather take my

2036
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 2: chances on that and block out. I would agree. I don't.

2037
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 5: Or you just forced him to get downhill like because

2038
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 5: the two doesn't hurt you. So if I face guard

2039
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 5: you and you like he can try to search for

2040
01:32:44,320 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 5: a three or hunt for a three. But to your point, Kevin,

2041
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 5: it's either you're gonna jack a terrible shot or you're

2042
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:51,679
Speaker 5: gonna say, Okay, you know what, they're defending three point

2043
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 5: line very heavily.

2044
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to the basket and at worse we're tied.

2045
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, someone needs to explain that to me,

2046
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:00,080
Speaker 2: like I'm nine.

2047
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that South region is the one that is

2048
01:33:03,160 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 1: a little wackier than the other ones. You've got a

2049
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: nine seed of four, seed of three in a two,

2050
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 1: where in some of the other ones, you know, in

2051
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 1: the East, you've got a one two or a one

2052
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 1: one two, three and five.

2053
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 2: South regions all the big ten schools in Houston right

2054
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:20,800
Speaker 2: playing in Houston. So yeah, I mean that's the Isowa, Nebraska,

2055
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:22,200
Speaker 2: Illinois Houston.

2056
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 1: That might be carrying a flag, James.

2057
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 2: That might be my favorite region just for kind of

2058
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 2: storylines and games. Obviously you have the loaded Coach region

2059
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:36,880
Speaker 2: top left with Shire Patino early Izzo. But yeah, I

2060
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:38,680
Speaker 2: mean this is you know, I think I told you

2061
01:33:38,720 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 2: guys who are a tournament. I am so much looking forward

2062
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 2: to this bracket. For some reason, I just think the

2063
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:45,439
Speaker 2: story lines are endless. And I think now that we

2064
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:47,559
Speaker 2: got to the Sweet sixteen, while we are missing Cinderella,

2065
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:49,639
Speaker 2: a little bit of my heartstrings at that. I still

2066
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 2: think you got some great, great matchups coming up Thursday.

2067
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:55,799
Speaker 1: And Freda, you still have an all Big ten Final

2068
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:58,920
Speaker 1: four in play, James, don't know that will happen, but

2069
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:00,120
Speaker 1: it is in play a.

2070
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 2: Big ten of the field. Come on, that was a question.

2071
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 5: I'm rolling with the field man, not even because of

2072
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 5: how many teams, like the great number of teams. I

2073
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,679
Speaker 5: think it's more so the caliber of teams in the field.

2074
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you start talking about Duke Arizona, Houston, any

2075
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 1: of those three.

2076
01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 5: All say okay, well none of those guys are gonna

2077
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 5: win it.

2078
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:19,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

2079
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 1: But then, like I said, it's crazier. I don't know

2080
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:26,360
Speaker 1: as a crazier thing ever happened than all four teams

2081
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 1: in the Final four coming from the same conference.

2082
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 2: I don't know that's ever happened as it. They're a

2083
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 2: team I throw in there that you didn't mention is

2084
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,719
Speaker 2: Iowa State. You know, if they can get Joshua Jefferson

2085
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:37,519
Speaker 2: back two seeds, you feel like we kind of forget

2086
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 2: about it now. Granted, they had a beat down in

2087
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 2: Mackie in the second half earlier this year, so I

2088
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 2: just think there's a dynamic nature to them of a

2089
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 2: you get a Michigan Iowa State Elite eight game in

2090
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 2: Chicago to go to the final four, that is a

2091
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 2: I hate to say sneaky because it's a one versus

2092
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 2: two seed, but I just don't think the national or

2093
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 2: even US are talking about it in that realm there.

2094
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 2: So let's go. I think if you are an indie

2095
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 2: whatever fan, visit Indie sports court, whatever, you've got to

2096
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 2: be salivating at some of the potential final four matchups

2097
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 2: that you can have there.

2098
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't know when we were talking about who's really

2099
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 1: a Cinderella Iowa and Texas, I don't know. Do you

2100
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 1: even include Tennessee as a Cinderella is a sixth seed?

2101
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:24,280
Speaker 1: Probably not.

2102
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 2: That ain't my Cinderell. No, that can be your Cinderell.

2103
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 1: No, I'm just throwing out potential Cinderella's Iowa, probably, is

2104
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 1: it right? Yeah?

2105
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cinderella in all lowercase Cinderella with three eyes. I

2106
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 2: mean that's not mine. Yeah, No, Cinderella is dead in

2107
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:44,559
Speaker 2: this tournament.

2108
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 1: I was really hoping that I had Acron get into

2109
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 1: sweet sixteen. I was, am I wrong?

2110
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 2: Is not wrong? The term of Jeff and Big ten

2111
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 2: teams like they're Cinderella.

2112
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:58,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, come.

2113
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 2: On, well, I was just asking a question, and Arthur,

2114
01:36:00,479 --> 01:36:06,440
Speaker 2: any Cinderella, Cinderella's You've answered the question. Dunk City, Cinderella's

2115
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 2: sister sister Jean in Loyola, it's George Mason, it's you know.

2116
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:16,879
Speaker 2: That to me is Cinderella. SEC and Big ten schools

2117
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 2: makes you want to barf. Try to imagine there's Cinderella.

2118
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 1: I mean, we had we had some potential going in

2119
01:36:22,720 --> 01:36:25,439
Speaker 1: the second round. You had you had, We talked about Akron,

2120
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,679
Speaker 1: High Point, Saint Louis, but no longer there. We'll ask

2121
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:32,639
Speaker 1: our next guest. CJ. Moore writes for The Athletic College

2122
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 1: basketball is a specialty, CJ. We can't consider number nine

2123
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 1: seated Iowa Cinderella. Can we?

2124
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 3: No? I don't.

2125
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 4: I don't think any high major team can be label

2126
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 4: of Cinderella. Definitely. I guess an underdog to get there.

2127
01:36:48,920 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 4: And you know, you do have guys that in the starts.

2128
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 4: You play Division two, a bunch of former min major

2129
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 4: players on the rosters.

2130
01:36:56,600 --> 01:36:58,839
Speaker 3: So if you really wanted.

2131
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:02,080
Speaker 4: To squint and you know, trying to pretend that I was,

2132
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:05,559
Speaker 4: I guess you could. But I think Cinderella is dead.

2133
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 2: CJ. Thanks for joining us.

2134
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 5: Jamis Boyd here and I have to say one I

2135
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 5: agree with your Cinderella assessment. I don't know if you

2136
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 5: can really pay for the glass slipper these days, like

2137
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 5: is that really counted Cinderella.

2138
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:19,759
Speaker 2: But as far as.

2139
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:21,600
Speaker 5: Purdugoes, which would have been a big topic here in

2140
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 5: our airwaves, you had a great story the other day

2141
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,960
Speaker 5: or last week, and it's called Inside the Mind of

2142
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 5: Braden Smith's college basketball as New Assist King, where you

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Speaker 5: sat down with him and went through some of his

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Speaker 5: best assists. So can you take us behind the scenes

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Speaker 5: of just how that story came together? Because I thought

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Speaker 5: it was great and very fitting for what we saw

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Speaker 5: this past weekend.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was an idea of mine early in the

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Speaker 4: season that you know, knew he was going to obviously

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Speaker 4: we're most likely break the assist record or come close

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Speaker 4: to it, and was trying to think of a creative

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Speaker 4: way to kind of tell his story because you know,

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Speaker 4: I think anyone who's ever written about him has told

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Speaker 4: the Oh, super underrecruited. You know, Purdue didn't even my

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Speaker 4: painter never even intended in any of his au games,

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Speaker 4: high school games, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 3: So I wanted to come.

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Speaker 4: Up with some kind of way to tell his story

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Speaker 4: and appreciate his ability to make amazing passes. And so

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Speaker 4: I came up with the idea, I'll watch all of

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Speaker 4: his assists. I'll come up with some of maybe not

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Speaker 4: necessarily all his best ones.

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Speaker 3: But I thought I.

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Speaker 4: Tried to pick something that could kind of tell a story,

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Speaker 4: and so I showed him, I think I at first

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Speaker 4: I pulled like maybe fifty and then I got it

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Speaker 4: down to probably like fifteen eighteen something like that. And

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Speaker 4: so we went through and you know, just kind of, hey,

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Speaker 4: what were you seeing here? You know, when you started

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Speaker 4: throwing passes like this, how do you start going on that?

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Speaker 4: That was kind of questions and had a really really

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Speaker 4: fun discussion.

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Speaker 3: He was really into it.

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Speaker 4: You know, he would remember every single one, So it

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Speaker 4: was it was the fun extras. That's probably my fun

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Speaker 4: favorite story to report out this summer. Just just two

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Speaker 4: guys talking talking ball over over filmed, so it was good.

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Speaker 3: Tough.

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Speaker 2: CG is a great read a Caleb first corner three

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Speaker 2: is not one that I would have ever remembered, let

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Speaker 2: alone thought he would have had there. But it was

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Speaker 2: fun kind of hearing him dissect those plays. I had

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Speaker 2: to laugh for our audience that you know, hasn't had

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Speaker 2: a chance to read it yet. Could you share the

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Speaker 2: player that I believe Bradin Smith said what he thought

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Speaker 2: was the most difficult to pass to in his Purdue.

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Speaker 3: Career, Zach Edy the biggest target.

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Speaker 2: And and and the reason beyond that maybe not necessarily

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Speaker 2: Zach EDI's hands. And I thought Matt Paynter had a

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Speaker 2: great point of advice for Braden Smith and throwing the

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Speaker 2: ball to Zach Edy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, he So the reason for it is because

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Speaker 4: Braiden always played and pick and roll. He'd never really

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Speaker 4: you know, he played with quote unquote big guys, but

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Speaker 4: they were like six four sixty five sixty six.

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Speaker 3: When he was in high school.

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Speaker 4: I was saying, so he never played with like a

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Speaker 4: true big and he was, you know, never really thrown

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Speaker 4: the ball into a post. And he said, you know,

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Speaker 4: I probably would have broken the record a little earlier

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Speaker 4: if I had just thrown the ball in the post.

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Speaker 4: The first few games in my college career, but it

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Speaker 4: took him a little while to get there, and Painter's

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Speaker 4: advice to him.

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Speaker 3: Was, hey, just throwing it at his forehead. He's going

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Speaker 3: to catch it if you keep throwing it. There Se D.

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Speaker 2: Moore from The Athletic with us here on the Payless

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Speaker 2: Lakers hotline. The Braden Smith piece is great. I also

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Speaker 2: really enjoyed the Darren Peterson deep dive from a few

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Speaker 2: weeks back. And again we're in Pacer country and if

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Speaker 2: I remember correctly, I think we had you on a

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Speaker 2: couple of years ago. You did, you know, a deep

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Speaker 2: dive kind of on Tyrese Halliburton and shed some light

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Speaker 2: on you know, his background. Obviously the Peterson thing is

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Speaker 2: very well documented. If an NBA, I guess, if you

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Speaker 2: could put yourself in an NBA front office, what do

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Speaker 2: you think would be the biggest question you would have

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the Darren Peterson situation. For lack

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Speaker 2: of a better.

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Speaker 4: Term, I would just want to dive fully into his

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Speaker 4: medicals and get a really really good feel for where

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Speaker 4: he is and if you know, the cramping stuff is

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Speaker 4: something that will continue to maybe hot him throughout his career.

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Speaker 4: I think he's passed it, but I also think the

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Speaker 4: explosion is not quite there, and you know, it's probably

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Speaker 4: going to be good for him to maybe take a

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Speaker 4: little break and then like super you know, dive back

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Speaker 4: into training and you know, you hope by the time

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Speaker 4: that draft prep gets here would work out some stuff

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Speaker 4: that you.

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Speaker 3: Can start to see some of that explosion back.

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Speaker 4: And if that's the case, then you know, I'm very

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Speaker 4: interested in him as one of the top picks in

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Speaker 4: the NBA draft.

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Speaker 1: Talking to CJ. Moore from The Athletic about college basketball,

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Speaker 1: got the Sweet sixteen coming up at this point in time,

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Speaker 1: and we've talked about for Matt Painter, seven Sweet sixteens

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Speaker 1: in nine years, and of course they went to a

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Speaker 1: championship game a couple of years ago, but prior to

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Speaker 1: to really the Carson Edwards run, the Sweet sixteen's kind

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Speaker 1: of been a stopping point for Purdue. Has this group

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Speaker 1: of seniors maybe moved past that. Do you feel pretty

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Speaker 1: good about their chances this week?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think that, you know, at least in the in

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Speaker 4: the first game. Now, now Arizona is going to be

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Speaker 4: another another beast if that happens in the in the

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Speaker 4: lead eight, but.

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Speaker 3: I think pretudly.

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Speaker 4: One thing that really impressed me sitting behind their bench

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Speaker 4: this weekend, and I'll have a story coming out tomorrow

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Speaker 4: on the seniors, and you know how rare it is

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Speaker 4: for for three guys to stay at one school and

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Speaker 4: this era and kind of what that has done for

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Speaker 4: this team. But one thing that that stood out to

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Speaker 4: me is they just kind of figured like there was

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Speaker 4: some a little bit of tension in that Miami game,

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Speaker 4: like Miami was giving them a real push. You know,

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Speaker 4: they were trailing in the first half, it was close

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Speaker 4: with about ten minutes left, but I thought there was

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Speaker 4: a lot of communication just kind of figuring it out

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Speaker 4: and no real panic and and that's what what impressed me,

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Speaker 4: Like that, like Brayden Smith told me that, you know,

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Speaker 4: if I have a quote that in the story tomorrow

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Speaker 4: of like we've been in every single situation and you

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Speaker 4: can ever imagine, and that was that was kind of

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Speaker 4: evident to me, Like he wasn't having his best game,

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Speaker 4: but I thought down the stretch he was just taking

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Speaker 4: am apart in middle ball screens. So you know, I

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Speaker 4: think I think that they are a mature group who

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Speaker 4: understands who they are and you know, in winning if

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Speaker 4: they lose in this tournament, it's not going to be

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Speaker 4: because they're not prepared or not experienced enough for having

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Speaker 4: been through certain situations. This is going to be because

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Speaker 4: you know, they probably go up against a team that is.

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Speaker 5: Elite CJ last one and I'll let you go. I

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Speaker 5: was watching a TikTok yesterday of Jimmerferdett, his wife and

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Speaker 5: their young son. He was they were putting posters up

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Speaker 5: in the sun's room and he points one of them

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Speaker 5: and saying, oh, that's dad, Like he was really good.

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Speaker 5: He made that shot and they went to the sweet

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Speaker 5: sixteen and he looks like he's maybe five, and she's

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Speaker 5: like yeah. And so I can see his little college

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Speaker 5: basketball fandom starting out. But for you, what is it

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Speaker 5: about this sport that drew you in and then captch

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Speaker 5: you all these years?

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Speaker 4: I mean, ever since I was about five years old,

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Speaker 4: I've been watching I think every college basketball game I

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Speaker 4: could watch. I love to play the game, and I

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Speaker 4: still I'm forty one. I still play. So you know

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Speaker 4: everything about basketball just uh is I think it's the

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Speaker 4: best port in the world. And and uh I grew

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01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:25,720
Speaker 4: up in Kansas City. My mom went to Kansas so

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Speaker 4: down the road from you know, one of the most

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Speaker 4: historic programs in college basketball history. So you walk in

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Speaker 4: that building and similar to Mackie like there's there's a

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Speaker 4: different kind of you know, you can feel the history

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Speaker 4: just as you walk inside. So it was it was

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Speaker 4: pretty hard for me not to just be obsessed with

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Speaker 4: college basketball from a young age.

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Speaker 1: Ceej always good to talk to you. Very important question

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Speaker 1: on the way out, though, what's your what's your go

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Speaker 1: to road trip snack? You gotta you're you're hungry, you're

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01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 1: jones and for something you go into the convenience store.

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Speaker 1: You gass up. What are you grabbing?

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Speaker 3: Dude.

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01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 4: I'm not a huge sat guy, but my wife makes

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01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:03,719
Speaker 4: peanut butter balls.

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Speaker 3: If I got some of those in my backpack.

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Speaker 1: Going to those so far more disciplined than the rest

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Speaker 1: of us, I'm very disappointed to Jay.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I gotta keep I gotta keep poopend, so I

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01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 4: got to keep the body in good shape.

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Speaker 1: It's good stuff. Thanks for joining us, buddy, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks, thank you.

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Speaker 1: There is great, great read and it's that's the one

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Speaker 1: thing I love about my athletic subscription. It's the only

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Speaker 1: place you have left anymore. Where you get these nice, long,

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Speaker 1: deep dives that are the kind of long form pieces

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Speaker 1: that I grew up with. You just don't see a

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Speaker 1: lot of them anymore. James, I like it. They give

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Speaker 1: you guys freedom to do that every once in a while.

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Speaker 2: Well, if I could James braggs on himself enough, the

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Speaker 2: fact that you know any and this sounds a little

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Speaker 2: media nerdy, but James, you could probably relate to this,

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Speaker 2: the fact that he was able to sit down with

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Speaker 2: Braden Smith and go over like actual film. Yeah, that

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Speaker 2: does not happen very much on the college level. Like

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Speaker 2: you know how many times Darren Peterson spoke to the

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Speaker 2: ME this year. Yeah, you know it just college athletics

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01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 2: is kind of weird, how much you know, there is

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Speaker 2: a level of control, especially nil era, which can get

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Speaker 2: I don't want to open up a whole new can

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Speaker 2: of worms there, And I would say Prdue honestly grants

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Speaker 2: a ton of access. But still that's that's unbelievable access

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Speaker 2: that CJ was able to get. And I thought it

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Speaker 2: was a brilliant read, and honestly it was just a

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Speaker 2: glimpse into an unbelievable quarterback mind at the point guard position.

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Speaker 2: I mean, his recall and his thought process and breaking

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Speaker 2: down some of these plays was just a really really

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Speaker 2: fun read. So i' nerd it out over big time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm shot out to him for still hooping at

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Speaker 5: forty one out.

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Speaker 2: That's me. I thought you're giving him the Final four invite.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you guys got to have a little Sundays true. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know what, that might actually be a real conversation

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Speaker 2: to be.

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Speaker 1: Had there you go. By the way, Matt texting in,

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Speaker 1: I had asked it. I don't think it had ever

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Speaker 1: happened before. We're one conference had all four final four teams,

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Speaker 1: which is still in play for the Big Ten. Not

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Speaker 1: saying it will happen, but it's in play. Matt says,

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty Georgetown, Saint John's, Villanova, Memphis State three of

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Speaker 1: the Big East teams. That's the most three of the

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Speaker 1: Big East teams that was the final four, and three

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Speaker 1: of them coming from the Big East.

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Speaker 2: So I said at two and a half, right now,

2358
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 2: Big ten teams to be in Indy, Oh boy, two

2359
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 2: and a half.

2360
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:22,719
Speaker 1: Mmm, give me the over. Well you take the under.

2361
01:47:22,920 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 6: You know you're gonna have one in the Elite eight

2362
01:47:25,520 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 6: for sure. I mean between Iowa and Nebraska. So one's

2363
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 6: gonna have a chance there. You would suspect Michigan to

2364
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 6: be I mean, I don't I know you're Saint Alabama, James,

2365
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:37,600
Speaker 6: but that is gonna be tough. I mean yeah, so

2366
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 6: you would think Michigan's gonna be there. That's a great question. Kit,

2367
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:42,679
Speaker 6: where's the third one come from Michigan State.

2368
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 1: I'll take the under in that probably, Man pdue Arizona.

2369
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:50,599
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a nasty matchup. Man, it'll be good

2370
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 1: or Arkansas right off?

2371
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 2: Arkansas just yet here. I think they have some very

2372
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 2: explosive ability of those guards. They've got enough size, and

2373
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:01,800
Speaker 2: if you want to believe in coaches, they got a

2374
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:04,519
Speaker 2: coach Cali Perry versus Tommy Lloyd. It's a little different

2375
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:05,960
Speaker 2: in the NCAA tournament history, right.

2376
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure Arizona is not thrilled to have Arkansas in

2377
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 1: front of them, but that's where they're at. They are

2378
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:14,880
Speaker 1: the number one seed. We'll see, Man, this is just

2379
01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 1: you talk about I talked about it as a battle royale,

2380
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 1: but you look up and down this Sweet sixteen and

2381
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:25,920
Speaker 1: just titans, really good basketball teams. It's gonna be a

2382
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 1: lot of fun. All right, let's do a quick chuck

2383
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:29,600
Speaker 1: down here in the nine o'clock hour News of the

2384
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 1: day around here this morning. The Indiana Pacers gotta win

2385
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 1: last night, James, first time since February eleventh. They snap

2386
01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:39,040
Speaker 1: a sixteen game losing streak.

2387
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 2: Ten games ago. But boy, they're gonna went out. Could

2388
01:48:46,360 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 2: you imagine you.

2389
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 1: Just drove off the Matt Bear was talking about it's

2390
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:53,519
Speaker 1: been a nice smooth morning for most traffic. People just

2391
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 1: drove off the road right now, James, tough. Pascal siak

2392
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm thirty seven points, six rebounds. Was any play that

2393
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:03,840
Speaker 1: he made bigger than the block at the end of

2394
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:05,080
Speaker 1: the game on Paolo Benco?

2395
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:06,720
Speaker 2: Now he had a few moments there. I thought he

2396
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:09,240
Speaker 2: was gonna ice ice it offensively. But and again shout

2397
01:49:09,240 --> 01:49:11,240
Speaker 2: out to Jay Huff. I thought, you know, when Siakam

2398
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:15,240
Speaker 2: initially got beat by bon Carroll, Huff great help got

2399
01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 2: to the front of the rim there, kind of made

2400
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 2: bon Caro adjustin. Then Siakam cleaned it up. Huge step

2401
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 2: back three from Andrew nemhard And you know, if you

2402
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:24,040
Speaker 2: look at it, the Pacers played those big three a

2403
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:27,320
Speaker 2: lot of minutes. They shortened their rotation. You could tell

2404
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:29,040
Speaker 2: they certainly wanted that one.

2405
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:32,479
Speaker 1: Jerifs Walker scored twenty points last night. What's happened with

2406
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:34,760
Speaker 1: Jeris Walker during this time where he's been getting all

2407
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:36,880
Speaker 1: kinds of play because the injuries, and what does it

2408
01:49:36,920 --> 01:49:37,920
Speaker 1: mean for him next year?

2409
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 3: Well?

2410
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:40,720
Speaker 2: I think it's growth. But at the same time, there

2411
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:42,639
Speaker 2: is a part of me that steals the phrase from

2412
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 2: Jake Querry of you know, is he being a twenty

2413
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:47,120
Speaker 2: point guy on a twenty win team?

2414
01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 3: You know?

2415
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 2: I think that's the difficult question with this Pacers season

2416
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:53,639
Speaker 2: is what is tangible growth? What is a real growth?

2417
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 2: Like what you're asking from Jeris Walker right now is

2418
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:57,760
Speaker 2: nothing what you're gonna ask for him next season, right,

2419
01:49:58,479 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 2: you know? And that's a difficulty. I do think we've

2420
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:03,800
Speaker 2: seen some growth, but it's just like, Okay, how exactly

2421
01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:06,719
Speaker 2: does that fit when now he's the seventh man again.

2422
01:50:07,240 --> 01:50:10,559
Speaker 2: You know, it's just a totally different asking of what

2423
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 2: his responsibilities are.

2424
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 1: Shout out two to Andrew Nemhart did not only have

2425
01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:17,880
Speaker 1: a big step back three to Really it was the

2426
01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:20,120
Speaker 1: last basket that did any of scored last night, and

2427
01:50:20,120 --> 01:50:21,840
Speaker 1: they were faltering a little bit before he hit that.

2428
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:25,840
Speaker 1: But thirteen, seven and fourteen, sat it all morning long.

2429
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 1: James out is a very Tyrese Haliburton like line for

2430
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:29,240
Speaker 1: him last night.

2431
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:32,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that Pat and his step bag boy special player.

2432
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:35,280
Speaker 1: Purdue gets ready for Texas and the Sweet sixteen that'll

2433
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:39,640
Speaker 1: be on Thursday seven to ten in San Jose, California.

2434
01:50:40,120 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 1: Matt Painter five hundred wins this past week, and where

2435
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:45,639
Speaker 1: does he stop?

2436
01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:45,840
Speaker 4: Like?

2437
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:48,720
Speaker 1: He's not an old guy. He's got a lot of

2438
01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:51,559
Speaker 1: college basketball left in front of him as a head coach, Kevin,

2439
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:54,760
Speaker 1: this thing could go easily way up the charts there.

2440
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. I have not given that too much thought, but yeah,

2441
01:50:58,680 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 2: he is one of the alt time greats period. And

2442
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 2: I don't see I know, I use a golf analogy

2443
01:51:04,160 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 2: a lot. I don't see that man walking up the

2444
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:06,840
Speaker 2: eighteenth hole anytime soon, all right.

2445
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,600
Speaker 1: I CEAA Women's Tournament last night, Notre Dame gets a

2446
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 1: victory as Hannah hadalgo again twenty six points, thirteen rebounds,

2447
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:18,400
Speaker 1: eight steals. Notre Dame eighty three, Ohio State seventy three.

2448
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:22,519
Speaker 1: They just keep keeping on, man, and they are I

2449
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:25,200
Speaker 1: think they are a sixth seed if I'm not mistaken.

2450
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:27,679
Speaker 1: The Notre Dame is so see where they go from here?

2451
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, six over three. That was at Ohio State. So

2452
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:33,400
Speaker 2: Hanna Hidalgo outstanding. Shout out to the cast. Prosper I

2453
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:36,120
Speaker 2: thought she had some big extra possessions created there. Notre

2454
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:39,160
Speaker 2: Dame actually was down eleven nothing in that game there.

2455
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 2: So they are off the face Vanderbilt in the Sweet

2456
01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:46,599
Speaker 2: sixteen as the six two matchup there for ne Livy

2457
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:47,839
Speaker 2: and the Irish.

2458
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:50,760
Speaker 1: Did you see what Yukon did the Syracuse ninety eight

2459
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:51,679
Speaker 1: forty five?

2460
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that former IU coach she was there when

2461
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 2: I was there, Felicia laget Jack. She was not happy

2462
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:56,599
Speaker 2: right after the game.

2463
01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:58,880
Speaker 1: Now she says she's tired of having to play Yukon

2464
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:00,599
Speaker 1: in the second round every single year.

2465
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 2: Is that true?

2466
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:04,080
Speaker 1: That's what she said.

2467
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:06,280
Speaker 2: It feels like it. I think it's been three in

2468
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:08,479
Speaker 2: a row, three and five.

2469
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 6: But they they do it based on location and a

2470
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 6: lot of these you know kind of brackets where they

2471
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:19,880
Speaker 6: the pods are just a little lesson to travel and stuff.

2472
01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:23,559
Speaker 6: So Syracuse is always playing in Yukon's kind of pod.

2473
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 1: But you know where the.

2474
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 2: Standard should have a therapy So I like that idea.

2475
01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:29,800
Speaker 1: I didn't get a chance to see it because I

2476
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 1: was on vacation. But did we have any coaching fireworks?

2477
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 1: In the u c l A Yukon game.

2478
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:37,120
Speaker 2: Mick got teed up with about five to go. But

2479
01:52:37,360 --> 01:52:39,920
Speaker 2: it didn't didn't seem like he did too too much there.

2480
01:52:40,200 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 2: He was just kind of I mean, I'm sure he

2481
01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:42,880
Speaker 2: did some stuff, but you know, it just seemed like

2482
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:44,760
Speaker 2: he was kind of clapping. I always love when he

2483
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,719
Speaker 2: his hands get behind his back. Yeah, he's a character,

2484
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 2: all right.

2485
01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 1: We've also got Tiger Woods returning to competitive golf tonight.

2486
01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:55,639
Speaker 1: In the Teacher is competitive golf the tgo.

2487
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:59,280
Speaker 2: It's a loose, very loose term indoor golf that means

2488
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 2: he has to walk from here to Caleb, So slightly

2489
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:04,479
Speaker 2: different than walking eighteen holes out Augusta National here and

2490
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:05,360
Speaker 2: baby Stace.

2491
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:08,639
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's look, they're making some money,

2492
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:10,760
Speaker 1: it's on TV. But it's the closest thing to like

2493
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:12,680
Speaker 1: a golf pickup game that we have, isn't it.

2494
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, some sort of whatever Savannah bananas meat,

2495
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:18,679
Speaker 2: you know, PGA Tour.

2496
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2497
01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:19,680
Speaker 8: Uh.

2498
01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:23,439
Speaker 1: Mary and women's basketball team looking for a national championship. Tonight,

2499
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 1: they'll be playing in Sioux City, Iowa at eight pm. Kevin,

2500
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 1: you looked it up. Where can people watch that game

2501
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 1: if they want to watch it?

2502
01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 2: Innaia Nationals? I believe is the website? Not sure on

2503
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:34,680
Speaker 2: the subscription there, but yeah, number one team in Land

2504
01:53:34,680 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 2: they beat the number two team to Coda Wesley and

2505
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:39,440
Speaker 2: last night they've got Trio. I think of Indiana starters,

2506
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 2: state of Indiana starters. Uh so, great, great run for

2507
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 2: Maria and women per usual with them, and I'll try

2508
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:48,080
Speaker 2: to cut down the nuts tonight. And I believe that

2509
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 2: school you say dort is DoD O R D T

2510
01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 2: at there there live in Sioux City totally butchering it.

2511
01:53:57,360 --> 01:53:59,679
Speaker 2: I guess their school would be in Seue City, which.

2512
01:53:59,520 --> 01:54:01,519
Speaker 1: They're thirty four and two as well. So this is

2513
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:03,040
Speaker 1: not going to be a gimmea.

2514
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:04,720
Speaker 2: Can we can we host that here? Can we go

2515
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:06,840
Speaker 2: host that at whatever We're to have a coliseum or

2516
01:54:06,840 --> 01:54:07,559
Speaker 2: somewhere next year?

2517
01:54:07,600 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 1: And everything here?

2518
01:54:08,840 --> 01:54:10,160
Speaker 2: Try to get them to play in more of a

2519
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:13,200
Speaker 2: hostile environment than what the Marian women will walk into tonight.

2520
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:15,840
Speaker 1: Caleb, you ever played in a hostile environment.

2521
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:18,759
Speaker 6: Lots of times? Ohio high school basketball is not Indiana

2522
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:22,320
Speaker 6: high school basketball but it's it's pretty good. There's there's

2523
01:54:22,360 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 6: some hostile environments over there.

2524
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:26,360
Speaker 1: Did you ever have any like paper airplanes thrown at

2525
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:27,519
Speaker 1: you or anything like that in the huddle?

2526
01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 6: No, I got I got a name called though.

2527
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:32,200
Speaker 1: It seems pretty mild.

2528
01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:34,280
Speaker 2: Well Za the loser.

2529
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:38,480
Speaker 6: Yeah there, man, you should give give that to someone

2530
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:40,080
Speaker 6: on the couch.

2531
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:42,080
Speaker 2: Do you see that deep berth he just took you?

2532
01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:44,120
Speaker 6: Don't come through that glass and put hands on you, Kevin,

2533
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:45,640
Speaker 6: that's a new one.

2534
01:54:47,640 --> 01:54:50,640
Speaker 2: Happy fiftieth to Peyton Manning. We got Bruce Webber by

2535
01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:55,640
Speaker 2: the way, coming up here. Fifes, Yes, Happy fiftieth to

2536
01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:58,880
Speaker 2: the sheriff man oh man, by the way, speaking the

2537
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:01,360
Speaker 2: sheriff to you, I saw you say Marvin Harrison's kid,

2538
01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:04,440
Speaker 2: another kid is ranked number one in the land twenty

2539
01:55:04,480 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 2: twenty eight wide out Jet Harrison.

2540
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 3: Boy.

2541
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 5: I don't know where speaking of sheriff, I was thinking, okay,

2542
01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 5: hopefully it's not an Alabama situation.

2543
01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:15,120
Speaker 6: Oh boy, Jet Harrison is his name, that's all yet.

2544
01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:17,320
Speaker 2: I don't know that's a birth certificate, but yeah, what

2545
01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:20,840
Speaker 2: I saw Jet. So you know we've got you know,

2546
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:24,080
Speaker 2: we've got these prominent athletes, some of which are still

2547
01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:27,360
Speaker 2: playing some which are obviously in the retirement, but it's

2548
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:29,320
Speaker 2: kind of I mean, can you imagine two kids that

2549
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:31,080
Speaker 2: are like that?

2550
01:55:31,080 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 1: That good Lebron James be the first guy to play

2551
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 1: with a grand kid an the NBA.

2552
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 2: Lebron's they're not playing like that, but I guess Carlos

2553
01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:40,360
Speaker 2: Boozer right.

2554
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:43,960
Speaker 1: Coming up in a moment, we will check in with

2555
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 1: Bruce Webber from the Big Ten Network at his thoughts

2556
01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 1: on the NCAA tournament and a little bit more on

2557
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 1: the pacers and cults as we continue next ninety three

2558
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:55,640
Speaker 1: five seven. I just want to hear this song for

2559
01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:58,280
Speaker 1: a minute, Caleb. It's one of my favorites. I don't

2560
01:55:58,280 --> 01:55:59,360
Speaker 1: want to get copyrighted.

2561
01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:00,760
Speaker 2: Blink one guy.

2562
01:56:01,000 --> 01:56:04,760
Speaker 6: That's an upset. I didn't have that in my notes.

2563
01:56:07,160 --> 01:56:09,600
Speaker 1: I like it. I went down the Google rabbit hole

2564
01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:12,400
Speaker 1: during the break there. The distance between Sue Center, Iowa

2565
01:56:12,440 --> 01:56:17,880
Speaker 1: and Sue Falls is about an hour and twelve minutes

2566
01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:22,720
Speaker 1: or Sue City, I should say Sue City, so take

2567
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 1: that for what it's worth right there, So about an

2568
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:26,520
Speaker 1: hour drive for the campus to get there, a little

2569
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:28,000
Speaker 1: over an hour drive, so it'd be kind of a

2570
01:56:28,120 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 1: road game for Marion tonight.

2571
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 2: Shout out to Cluster Truck. Speaking of drives, don't have

2572
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 2: to worry about that with the free delivery there just

2573
01:56:34,760 --> 01:56:38,040
Speaker 2: opened up in Carmel next week their ten year anniversary

2574
01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 2: and James Boyd Kevin Bowenberger. It's nearing, let's go, it's nearing.

2575
01:56:44,440 --> 01:56:47,000
Speaker 2: I know you're waiting anxiously for that. Now I'm a

2576
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 2: legit fan you are. The dunk Fest is a great,

2577
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 2: great little food package, especially if you're watching games with

2578
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:57,000
Speaker 2: some friends family here tournament time, every tournament day. So

2579
01:56:57,080 --> 01:57:00,520
Speaker 2: coming up Thursday, we'll start a back up kicking straight cheese,

2580
01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:03,400
Speaker 2: bread chips and queso, a little chero action. They're a

2581
01:57:03,480 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 2: great deal. So big fan, your promo code over there

2582
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:07,840
Speaker 2: at Cluster Truck.

2583
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:12,080
Speaker 1: When do we get the Kevin Bohenburger again? Well just no,

2584
01:57:12,160 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 1: but I mean when are we going to actually get it? Well?

2585
01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 1: Do you ever get it on a Tuesday morning?

2586
01:57:18,200 --> 01:57:21,320
Speaker 2: Oh? Well, you know Burger's before ten am? Well, I

2587
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:22,760
Speaker 2: guess I had beer before ten am.

2588
01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:25,160
Speaker 1: So it's gonna say you draw the line at Burgers

2589
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:26,560
Speaker 1: will have beer, but not Burgers.

2590
01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:29,400
Speaker 2: I really shouldn't make any health statements here, but yes,

2591
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 2: the Kevin bohen Berger. Yeah, James, You've definitely ordered it

2592
01:57:33,560 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 2: the show and probably eating it after that.

2593
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:37,040
Speaker 5: I give ourselves a lot of grace because we get

2594
01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:39,720
Speaker 5: up early and lunch to me is whenever I feel

2595
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 5: like I'm hungry.

2596
01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 6: You Kevi, I have note and I can't wait to try.

2597
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:49,440
Speaker 2: No limp bacon, No limp bacon, No limp biscuit, no

2598
01:57:49,560 --> 01:57:53,240
Speaker 2: limp bacon. What's over here on the Kevin Bohenberger very

2599
01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:56,320
Speaker 2: crispy American cheese. Excellent. I am looking forward to Bruce

2600
01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:59,320
Speaker 2: Weber here in about ten minutes chatting with him. We

2601
01:57:59,320 --> 01:58:02,080
Speaker 2: talked a little bit earlier, like trying to contextualize purdues

2602
01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 2: seven sweet sixteens and nine years. And you know again,

2603
01:58:07,120 --> 01:58:09,480
Speaker 2: I think when you compare it just to the schools

2604
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:15,160
Speaker 2: in the state, to me, that speaks volumes. You know, Indiana, Butler,

2605
01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:17,000
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Let's live in the world of the three

2606
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:19,240
Speaker 2: big schools. Hell, throw the mid major schools in the state.

2607
01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:24,080
Speaker 2: From an NCAA tournament appearents standpoint, you've had the Big

2608
01:58:24,120 --> 01:58:28,400
Speaker 2: three plus the mid majors. They've made the tournament four

2609
01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 2: total times. Butler, Indiana, Notre Dame, of course, and then

2610
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 2: the rest of the majors four times in the span

2611
01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:40,600
Speaker 2: of Purdue making seven Sweet sixteens. It just it's such

2612
01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:45,440
Speaker 2: an amazing feat and I fully understand Purdue fans want more,

2613
01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:48,680
Speaker 2: but it's just wild what they've done. And if you

2614
01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:50,400
Speaker 2: just want to live in the Purdue Indiana rivalry for

2615
01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:53,200
Speaker 2: a second, when's the last time Indiana's made three Sweet

2616
01:58:53,200 --> 01:59:00,160
Speaker 2: six seams? Preach purduees made it three times in three years.

2617
01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 2: You got to go back for Indiana in three sweet sixteens.

2618
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:04,280
Speaker 6: I fault on that.

2619
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:07,360
Speaker 2: Caylen trying to get AYU fans down.

2620
01:59:07,440 --> 01:59:09,840
Speaker 6: I was trying to divert the conversation in a way.

2621
01:59:11,640 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 2: I mean, what did you do in the creen era?

2622
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:16,840
Speaker 2: So you got to go back to what the end

2623
01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:19,160
Speaker 2: of the Mike David the national runner up here, I mean,

2624
01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:21,080
Speaker 2: you got to go what three sweet sixteens like in

2625
01:59:21,080 --> 01:59:24,160
Speaker 2: twenty some years? And Produ's done three and three.

2626
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 5: And again we talked about this yesterday, Kevin. I think

2627
01:59:29,000 --> 01:59:31,040
Speaker 5: that they're not a victim of their success, but because

2628
01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:33,640
Speaker 5: of the success, we expect more now, right, But I

2629
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:36,800
Speaker 5: ain't good enough And that's fair. That's competition, that's sports. Yeah,

2630
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:39,640
Speaker 5: I mean, hell boy, it is. I think when you

2631
01:59:39,680 --> 01:59:41,560
Speaker 5: get to this second weekend. It gives us a couple

2632
01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:44,560
Speaker 5: of days, at least two before we get into the

2633
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:47,000
Speaker 5: how do you match up? Did you play well? Did

2634
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 5: you survive? Wait a second, this isn't normal, right, You've

2635
01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:51,520
Speaker 5: made it normal.

2636
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's a really great way to put it.

2637
01:59:54,680 --> 01:59:57,160
Speaker 2: I shared with you yesterday when Max Bone's looking at

2638
01:59:57,160 --> 01:59:59,040
Speaker 2: me at seven am in the morning and then saying, Daddy,

2639
01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:01,040
Speaker 2: what are we doing today? Well, we got Purdue on

2640
02:00:01,080 --> 02:00:06,600
Speaker 2: at noon? And his response is, why does Purdue always play?

2641
02:00:06,760 --> 02:00:09,680
Speaker 2: To me? That's a damn compliment to their program? Yeah,

2642
02:00:09,720 --> 02:00:12,200
Speaker 2: just saying October because he gets used to them playing

2643
02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:15,280
Speaker 2: and we're watching them a who whole lot so And honestly, James,

2644
02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:18,000
Speaker 2: when you bring that up, the whole victim of your

2645
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:21,000
Speaker 2: own success sort of phrase, we just said, what happy

2646
02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:24,080
Speaker 2: fiftieth birthday to Peyton Manny. Individually, he's probably one of

2647
02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:27,200
Speaker 2: the athletes that people bring up the most of all

2648
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:31,640
Speaker 2: this winning and then living in the Colts era. It's

2649
02:00:31,640 --> 02:00:34,480
Speaker 2: the one super Bowl, you know. It's just it's like,

2650
02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:38,280
Speaker 2: where do you draw the line in like nitpicking these

2651
02:00:38,440 --> 02:00:44,520
Speaker 2: insane careers, these one percentile sort of careers, and if

2652
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:46,960
Speaker 2: you look at it from a consistency standpoint in the tournament,

2653
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:50,680
Speaker 2: winning multiple games over the last decade. You know, produce

2654
02:00:51,160 --> 02:00:53,760
Speaker 2: sitting on a throne now again, obviously the cop they

2655
02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:54,240
Speaker 2: want more.

2656
02:00:55,200 --> 02:00:57,680
Speaker 1: Well, hopefully they'll get more, and they got Texas coming up,

2657
02:00:57,680 --> 02:00:59,600
Speaker 1: and if they win that, then they get the winner

2658
02:01:00,280 --> 02:01:04,680
Speaker 1: of a tightness matchup between Arkansas and Arizona. And Arkansas

2659
02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:07,840
Speaker 1: is that team that gather a four seed. But the

2660
02:01:07,880 --> 02:01:09,440
Speaker 1: rest of the world is learning just how good a

2661
02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:12,240
Speaker 1: cuff is and they got a terrific coach that knows

2662
02:01:12,280 --> 02:01:15,600
Speaker 1: how to navigate the NCAA tournament. So I think you're right, Kevin.

2663
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:18,000
Speaker 1: There's no foregone conclusion that just because Arizona's been a

2664
02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:21,720
Speaker 1: dominant number one seed that it's just you know, I

2665
02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:23,560
Speaker 1: think that's the point of the Sweet sixteen is once

2666
02:01:23,600 --> 02:01:27,040
Speaker 1: you get here, everybody's playing good basketball. Everybody's playing good

2667
02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:29,920
Speaker 1: basketball at this point in time. So that's the fun part.

2668
02:01:30,040 --> 02:01:32,160
Speaker 1: So if you had let me ask you this, you've

2669
02:01:32,160 --> 02:01:37,320
Speaker 1: been asking us about big ten of the field, Arizona, Arkansas,

2670
02:01:37,360 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 1: who do you like in that game?

2671
02:01:38,680 --> 02:01:39,840
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a great game. I think

2672
02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:42,160
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a great, great game. I'm not writing

2673
02:01:42,200 --> 02:01:42,839
Speaker 2: off Arkansas.

2674
02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:43,040
Speaker 1: You know.

2675
02:01:43,080 --> 02:01:46,080
Speaker 2: The one thing about Arizona for how I mean, what

2676
02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:48,760
Speaker 2: the hell is our record thirty two and two? As

2677
02:01:48,800 --> 02:01:52,040
Speaker 2: I look at my bracket here, they aren't a team

2678
02:01:52,120 --> 02:01:54,840
Speaker 2: that shoots and makes a lot of three pointers. So

2679
02:01:55,600 --> 02:01:59,560
Speaker 2: their ability to whatever beat you is more of a

2680
02:01:59,720 --> 02:02:02,080
Speaker 2: death by a thousand paper cuts. It's not you know,

2681
02:02:02,120 --> 02:02:05,200
Speaker 2: we've talked about Alabama today for example, Alabama just hit

2682
02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:07,600
Speaker 2: twenty three pointers in round two. You know they're not

2683
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:09,760
Speaker 2: that type of team. James is fighting a lion. I

2684
02:02:09,760 --> 02:02:12,760
Speaker 2: I mean we've seen firsthand their potency from behind the arc.

2685
02:02:12,920 --> 02:02:16,400
Speaker 2: It's not really Arizona. So you know again, that's why

2686
02:02:16,400 --> 02:02:17,920
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a great, great game. Boy,

2687
02:02:17,960 --> 02:02:19,640
Speaker 2: And there's no I mean, you're a Purdue fan. You

2688
02:02:19,680 --> 02:02:22,440
Speaker 2: can take care of business and at seven o'clock window

2689
02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:24,440
Speaker 2: on Thursday night, kick the feed up and just watch

2690
02:02:24,480 --> 02:02:27,720
Speaker 2: a great basketball game. I think Arizona Arkansas is if

2691
02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:30,800
Speaker 2: I listed my top three or four Sweet Sixteen matchups,

2692
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:33,320
Speaker 2: it's easily on that list. It might be the two

2693
02:02:33,360 --> 02:02:36,360
Speaker 2: best backcourts left. I mean, you think about it. You

2694
02:02:36,360 --> 02:02:38,480
Speaker 2: don't think of m Yeah, you don't think of Michigan's

2695
02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:43,000
Speaker 2: backcourt necessarily. You don't think of Duke's backcourt necessarily. Know,

2696
02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:45,600
Speaker 2: some would say Houston with Flemings and sharp, some might

2697
02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:48,920
Speaker 2: say Perdue Frankly, if Fletcher Lawyer continues to play like this,

2698
02:02:49,080 --> 02:02:53,120
Speaker 2: but I mean, Arizona and Arkansas just too really really

2699
02:02:53,120 --> 02:02:53,920
Speaker 2: good backwards.

2700
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:56,680
Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to watch it. And what have

2701
02:02:56,800 --> 02:03:00,000
Speaker 1: you learned watching more of Darius Acuff Junior James Because

2702
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:02,120
Speaker 1: we knew that he was, We've talked about him throughout

2703
02:03:02,160 --> 02:03:04,800
Speaker 1: the course of the entire season, but he has been

2704
02:03:04,840 --> 02:03:07,760
Speaker 1: on his best here when the games have mattered the most.

2705
02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:11,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say a lot of the conversation now

2706
02:03:11,680 --> 02:03:14,120
Speaker 5: is what is the draft order?

2707
02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:15,400
Speaker 2: What is the big board order?

2708
02:03:15,640 --> 02:03:19,400
Speaker 5: As he thrust himself into that top five conversation or

2709
02:03:19,440 --> 02:03:22,440
Speaker 5: perhaps even higher, because I mean, you have people who

2710
02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:25,360
Speaker 5: are asking he's the best guard that John Caliper has

2711
02:03:25,400 --> 02:03:28,360
Speaker 5: ever had. And if you look at it resume wise

2712
02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:31,920
Speaker 5: this year in its production, he has an argument to

2713
02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:34,440
Speaker 5: be better than John wall in college, better than Derrick

2714
02:03:34,520 --> 02:03:36,800
Speaker 5: Rose was in college. You know, I'm a Chicago area guy.

2715
02:03:37,120 --> 02:03:39,440
Speaker 5: No one's ever better than Dereck Rose. Right, Well, look

2716
02:03:39,440 --> 02:03:41,120
Speaker 5: at what he's doing. I'm not saying he'll be a

2717
02:03:41,120 --> 02:03:43,520
Speaker 5: better pro than those guys right now. He has a

2718
02:03:43,520 --> 02:03:45,360
Speaker 5: great argument. I mean I throw Tyler Yules in that

2719
02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:50,840
Speaker 5: conversation as well. So again I think it's me taking

2720
02:03:50,840 --> 02:03:53,160
Speaker 5: a second look at that big board and going, boy,

2721
02:03:53,240 --> 02:03:54,240
Speaker 5: is he the number four?

2722
02:03:54,280 --> 02:03:56,000
Speaker 2: Guys? He number five? Is he top three?

2723
02:03:56,400 --> 02:03:58,320
Speaker 1: There's an argument all right coming up at a moment,

2724
02:03:58,400 --> 02:04:00,600
Speaker 1: we'll get a read from Bruce Webb knows a little

2725
02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:03,040
Speaker 1: bit about coaching in the NCAA tournament. He's from the

2726
02:04:03,080 --> 02:04:05,280
Speaker 1: Big Ten Network and he joins us next ninety three

2727
02:04:05,320 --> 02:04:08,520
Speaker 1: to five one seven five the fan. I think you've

2728
02:04:08,560 --> 02:04:10,440
Speaker 1: been having a pretty good time this morning, Caleb Azuver.

2729
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:14,960
Speaker 6: It's been a lot of fun. Man always is all right.

2730
02:04:15,480 --> 02:04:18,120
Speaker 1: Soon to be a Dodgers and Warriors fan too, right

2731
02:04:18,720 --> 02:04:19,360
Speaker 1: opening day?

2732
02:04:19,400 --> 02:04:20,400
Speaker 6: You know, Dodgers, you know.

2733
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:23,480
Speaker 1: Come on, I'll tell you what though. One of the

2734
02:04:23,480 --> 02:04:26,200
Speaker 1: few guys i'd pay to watch play baseball right now,

2735
02:04:27,160 --> 02:04:28,880
Speaker 1: I'd go pay watch the Reds as a team, but

2736
02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:31,280
Speaker 1: show he Tana, I'd go watch the play. See that

2737
02:04:31,320 --> 02:04:31,760
Speaker 1: guy play.

2738
02:04:31,880 --> 02:04:32,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

2739
02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:35,920
Speaker 5: I remember being in LA last year and my driver

2740
02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:37,400
Speaker 5: was telling me they doesn't like Lebron.

2741
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:37,960
Speaker 2: He Loves Show.

2742
02:04:37,960 --> 02:04:39,680
Speaker 1: Hey, Scott reminded me.

2743
02:04:39,800 --> 02:04:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a little nervous about this opening day weather

2744
02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:44,480
Speaker 2: over at our Friends of the Indians coming up for Friday.

2745
02:04:44,600 --> 02:04:48,120
Speaker 2: NOI victory field. Am I seeing this right? A higher

2746
02:04:48,280 --> 02:04:53,040
Speaker 2: forty eighth and seventy chance of precipitation and may not

2747
02:04:53,080 --> 02:04:54,000
Speaker 2: get to play that KB.

2748
02:04:54,120 --> 02:04:57,160
Speaker 5: When I covered high school baseball and softball, this time

2749
02:04:57,200 --> 02:04:59,360
Speaker 5: of year was always so like, just.

2750
02:04:59,320 --> 02:05:01,560
Speaker 2: Watch miss lots of game from your car. Yeah, I'll

2751
02:05:01,600 --> 02:05:01,880
Speaker 2: be going.

2752
02:05:01,880 --> 02:05:04,560
Speaker 5: I'll be driving one school and they would cancel and

2753
02:05:04,600 --> 02:05:07,040
Speaker 5: I'd have three routes with a different school, or or

2754
02:05:07,120 --> 02:05:09,520
Speaker 5: a lot of schools would like the better, like drainage systems.

2755
02:05:09,560 --> 02:05:12,000
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, they would get more home games because well,

2756
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:13,560
Speaker 5: we can't play at this school because they don't have

2757
02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:14,960
Speaker 5: the proper field.

2758
02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:17,680
Speaker 2: Eighty degrees on Thursday here forty eight on Friday.

2759
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:20,600
Speaker 5: I think we've had so much about this and if

2760
02:05:20,640 --> 02:05:22,919
Speaker 5: I'm sniffing a little bit on Friday, you know why.

2761
02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:27,840
Speaker 1: All right, let's check the Paylesslockers hotline right now, and

2762
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:31,080
Speaker 1: there's our guy, Bruce Weber from Big Ten Network, a

2763
02:05:31,120 --> 02:05:34,400
Speaker 1: former college basketball coach, joining us now on the Payless

2764
02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:37,240
Speaker 1: Lickers hotline. Coach thanks so much for being here. Man,

2765
02:05:37,320 --> 02:05:39,640
Speaker 1: oh man, you look up and down this Sweet sixteen.

2766
02:05:40,480 --> 02:05:43,240
Speaker 1: Everybody can play some basketball here. We talked about this

2767
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:45,320
Speaker 1: with CJ. Moore. Cinderella is dead.

2768
02:05:45,160 --> 02:05:49,560
Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, I guess it's the bad part, you know,

2769
02:05:49,600 --> 02:05:53,320
Speaker 8: and some of the complaints, the changes with NIL and

2770
02:05:54,320 --> 02:05:59,200
Speaker 8: the portal, you know, the mid Majors Cinderella team, like

2771
02:05:59,280 --> 02:06:02,839
Speaker 8: my SAYU team years ago, getting to the Sweet sixteen.

2772
02:06:03,240 --> 02:06:05,600
Speaker 8: I don't know if it's going to happen again. We'll

2773
02:06:05,640 --> 02:06:09,400
Speaker 8: have to see. But we still had some great games,

2774
02:06:10,320 --> 02:06:14,640
Speaker 8: you know, some of the buzzer beaters that I enjoyed,

2775
02:06:14,680 --> 02:06:18,560
Speaker 8: and more than anything, the Big Ten had unbelievable success.

2776
02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:20,840
Speaker 2: Coach, I was always thank you for the time. I

2777
02:06:20,840 --> 02:06:22,720
Speaker 2: wanted to go back. I actually wanted to ask you

2778
02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:25,320
Speaker 2: about some of the SIU era. But let's actually go

2779
02:06:25,400 --> 02:06:27,640
Speaker 2: back to your days at Purdue, and we just saw

2780
02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:30,640
Speaker 2: a win number five hundred from one of your former

2781
02:06:30,680 --> 02:06:35,120
Speaker 2: players in on the sidelines there at Purdue with Matt Painter.

2782
02:06:35,400 --> 02:06:37,440
Speaker 2: He has spoken before, you know, growing up I think

2783
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:40,240
Speaker 2: he was with Pat Knight, AAU teammates, like he grew

2784
02:06:40,360 --> 02:06:43,280
Speaker 2: up more of an IU fan. I know. I'm asking

2785
02:06:43,280 --> 02:06:45,440
Speaker 2: you to dial it back a little bit. But what

2786
02:06:45,480 --> 02:06:47,840
Speaker 2: do you remember about the recruitment of Matt Painter.

2787
02:06:48,720 --> 02:06:51,880
Speaker 8: Well, it is true he was an India other fan

2788
02:06:52,000 --> 02:06:54,280
Speaker 8: and he was good friends with Pat and stayed at

2789
02:06:54,320 --> 02:06:58,760
Speaker 8: coach at Coach Knight's house. But I remember going to

2790
02:06:58,800 --> 02:07:01,840
Speaker 8: his home with Coach k and in his bedroom it

2791
02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:04,760
Speaker 8: was all pictures of value and Coach said, what do

2792
02:07:04,880 --> 02:07:09,600
Speaker 8: we do here? So but it was they were not

2793
02:07:09,720 --> 02:07:13,280
Speaker 8: recruiting them, and they had already signed some guys and

2794
02:07:13,280 --> 02:07:16,480
Speaker 8: stuff and then ended up. You know, you think about storylines.

2795
02:07:17,040 --> 02:07:19,360
Speaker 8: You know, Matt comes to Purdue, he ends up with

2796
02:07:19,520 --> 02:07:23,240
Speaker 8: me at SIU as an as my assistant, goes back

2797
02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:27,640
Speaker 8: to Purdue and and just unbelievable success and uh, you know,

2798
02:07:27,880 --> 02:07:30,240
Speaker 8: just really happy for him and proud of him and

2799
02:07:30,280 --> 02:07:33,080
Speaker 8: what he's done and how he sustained it at Purdue,

2800
02:07:33,120 --> 02:07:37,640
Speaker 8: and you know, it wasn't always easy at at times,

2801
02:07:37,680 --> 02:07:40,960
Speaker 8: but then his run as of late has been been.

2802
02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:43,840
Speaker 3: Really really special. And for me too. I love how

2803
02:07:43,840 --> 02:07:48,160
Speaker 3: he keeps former players involved, the former coaches.

2804
02:07:47,880 --> 02:07:51,560
Speaker 8: And especially coach Katie, you know, and I think that's

2805
02:07:51,600 --> 02:07:54,360
Speaker 8: part of it, part of his success. And we had

2806
02:07:54,360 --> 02:07:57,760
Speaker 8: the he has a reunion every summer and it was

2807
02:07:57,800 --> 02:08:00,600
Speaker 8: my first time I got not every summer but every

2808
02:08:00,640 --> 02:08:02,720
Speaker 8: couple of years, but it was the first time I

2809
02:08:02,760 --> 02:08:05,320
Speaker 8: got to gum back that. My wife and I went

2810
02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:09,360
Speaker 8: back this past summer and there were over eighty players,

2811
02:08:09,680 --> 02:08:13,040
Speaker 8: one back to nineteen fifty six. There were just I

2812
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:16,040
Speaker 8: can't tell you how many managers were there, former staff

2813
02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:20,120
Speaker 8: and there's just a special pride and you know, so

2814
02:08:20,920 --> 02:08:23,879
Speaker 8: it's really cool that Matt's done that. And then obviously

2815
02:08:24,080 --> 02:08:28,000
Speaker 8: just his success and the run he's had. And again

2816
02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:31,480
Speaker 8: they had some ups and downs this year, but man,

2817
02:08:31,520 --> 02:08:33,360
Speaker 8: they're playing good basketball right now.

2818
02:08:33,600 --> 02:08:36,080
Speaker 2: You bring up your guys day, He's aid, SIU. If

2819
02:08:36,120 --> 02:08:37,960
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, I think that was your first head

2820
02:08:38,000 --> 02:08:42,000
Speaker 2: coaching gig. Why did you want to hire him on

2821
02:08:42,040 --> 02:08:42,920
Speaker 2: your staff there?

2822
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:49,000
Speaker 8: Well, Matt, actually, you know, as a player, he wasn't

2823
02:08:49,040 --> 02:08:51,840
Speaker 8: most talented, and I mean he'll tell you that, but

2824
02:08:52,200 --> 02:08:55,200
Speaker 8: he understood the game, he learned the game, he got better,

2825
02:08:55,800 --> 02:08:59,720
Speaker 8: and he was a really good point guard as a senior.

2826
02:09:00,120 --> 02:09:02,240
Speaker 3: See, it helps to have big dog with you. And

2827
02:09:02,720 --> 02:09:03,360
Speaker 3: I just.

2828
02:09:03,360 --> 02:09:05,720
Speaker 8: Remember he would say to Glenn, hey, man, you don't

2829
02:09:05,720 --> 02:09:06,760
Speaker 8: have to shoot the first.

2830
02:09:06,520 --> 02:09:08,600
Speaker 3: Time you touch it. I'll get back I'll get it back.

2831
02:09:09,600 --> 02:09:12,040
Speaker 3: You know, I'm smart enough. We want to win the game.

2832
02:09:12,160 --> 02:09:16,080
Speaker 3: And you know, so he he knew the he knew

2833
02:09:16,160 --> 02:09:17,280
Speaker 3: the game. He loved the game.

2834
02:09:17,840 --> 02:09:20,640
Speaker 8: We always joked at that time recruiting was so different.

2835
02:09:20,680 --> 02:09:24,080
Speaker 8: We got these mailers with you know, the top recruit

2836
02:09:24,160 --> 02:09:26,320
Speaker 8: s Hoop Scoop and all this stuff, and that would

2837
02:09:26,360 --> 02:09:30,040
Speaker 8: come in and he would take my Hoopscoop stuff and I,

2838
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:32,720
Speaker 8: coach would say, well, who's the you know, who's this kid.

2839
02:09:32,800 --> 02:09:35,360
Speaker 8: I'd go back and I couldn't find my Hoopscoop magazine

2840
02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:37,640
Speaker 8: to you know, look up a player, and that would

2841
02:09:37,680 --> 02:09:40,200
Speaker 8: have to I'd have to figure out where he put it.

2842
02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:45,160
Speaker 8: So he loved basketball. He studies, studies it. He loves

2843
02:09:45,200 --> 02:09:47,400
Speaker 8: all sports and you know, trivia stuff.

2844
02:09:47,440 --> 02:09:49,680
Speaker 3: And but you just knew he was going to be

2845
02:09:49,720 --> 02:09:51,080
Speaker 3: a coach. There's certain guys.

2846
02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:56,360
Speaker 8: And right away he went to Washington, to Washington, Pennsylvania,

2847
02:09:56,560 --> 02:09:59,680
Speaker 8: Washington Jefferson with Tom Ryder, one of our other former assistants,

2848
02:10:00,160 --> 02:10:03,240
Speaker 8: did the forklift at the coke company in the morning

2849
02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:05,360
Speaker 8: and coached in the afternoon, and then then went to

2850
02:10:05,440 --> 02:10:09,720
Speaker 8: Eastern Illinois took my brother spot and then when you know,

2851
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:13,160
Speaker 8: we got the when I got the SAU job. He

2852
02:10:13,280 --> 02:10:16,160
Speaker 8: was one of the first people I called to join us,

2853
02:10:16,280 --> 02:10:19,080
Speaker 8: And obviously, you know it was a.

2854
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:21,680
Speaker 3: Good decision for me, he had for him.

2855
02:10:21,480 --> 02:10:24,760
Speaker 8: And and just again just we had a pretty good

2856
02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:28,040
Speaker 8: run at SAU. When you talk about the Cinderellas and

2857
02:10:28,080 --> 02:10:30,280
Speaker 8: the mid majors, I think it was five out of

2858
02:10:30,320 --> 02:10:33,600
Speaker 8: six years we had an at large bid when we

2859
02:10:33,640 --> 02:10:36,280
Speaker 8: were at SAU in the Valley, and and and a

2860
02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:39,000
Speaker 8: couple of sweet sixteens. I had one, Chris Lowry had

2861
02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:42,680
Speaker 8: one in that run, and I'm not sure we're going

2862
02:10:42,760 --> 02:10:43,800
Speaker 8: to see that ever again.

2863
02:10:44,720 --> 02:10:47,360
Speaker 5: Bruce, You've been around a lot of great point guards

2864
02:10:47,360 --> 02:10:49,800
Speaker 5: throughout your career, whether you were coaching him or you know,

2865
02:10:49,880 --> 02:10:52,400
Speaker 5: calling games on television. The one that comes to mind

2866
02:10:52,440 --> 02:10:54,520
Speaker 5: for me is Darren Williams because being the Illinois kid

2867
02:10:54,680 --> 02:10:57,800
Speaker 5: that was boy a special player in Dee Brown as well.

2868
02:10:57,960 --> 02:10:59,640
Speaker 5: But when you look at Brydon Smith and what he's

2869
02:10:59,640 --> 02:11:02,800
Speaker 5: on it for do the all time leader in n

2870
02:11:02,840 --> 02:11:06,960
Speaker 5: Cuba assists, what comes to mind when that is a

2871
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:07,839
Speaker 5: part of his resume.

2872
02:11:08,680 --> 02:11:10,920
Speaker 8: Well, Just I've watched him since the beginning. I went

2873
02:11:10,960 --> 02:11:13,600
Speaker 8: to early practices. I did not get to see him

2874
02:11:13,840 --> 02:11:18,120
Speaker 8: when recruiting it was the COVID year and and he

2875
02:11:18,200 --> 02:11:19,160
Speaker 8: just didn't get a chance.

2876
02:11:19,200 --> 02:11:21,360
Speaker 3: But I talked to Matt along the way, you know.

2877
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:24,520
Speaker 8: And he kept saying, he's you know, he's he's got it.

2878
02:11:24,600 --> 02:11:26,760
Speaker 8: I think he's really good. You know, he has that

2879
02:11:26,800 --> 02:11:29,800
Speaker 8: good feel and there's no doubt. You could see right away.

2880
02:11:29,880 --> 02:11:34,000
Speaker 8: I went to practice that that first summer before his

2881
02:11:34,040 --> 02:11:36,280
Speaker 8: freshman year, and I was like, how can this kid

2882
02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:37,600
Speaker 8: not been recruited higher?

2883
02:11:37,720 --> 02:11:39,560
Speaker 3: And he just had a great feel.

2884
02:11:40,480 --> 02:11:43,600
Speaker 8: I did his first game when I that was my

2885
02:11:43,680 --> 02:11:47,360
Speaker 8: first game with Big ten Network, and you know, you

2886
02:11:47,360 --> 02:11:50,000
Speaker 8: you could just you had a sense, Hey, this guy.

2887
02:11:50,000 --> 02:11:51,800
Speaker 8: You didn't know he's gonna beat Danny early, but you

2888
02:11:51,880 --> 02:11:52,920
Speaker 8: knew he knew how to play.

2889
02:11:53,760 --> 02:11:54,960
Speaker 3: Passing is a lost art.

2890
02:11:55,320 --> 02:11:57,880
Speaker 8: And and you know, you bring up Darren Williams that

2891
02:11:58,040 --> 02:12:00,600
Speaker 8: he is, for me, the best passer eye coach. He

2892
02:12:00,640 --> 02:12:03,720
Speaker 8: had an unbelievable feel of the game. He could see things,

2893
02:12:03,800 --> 02:12:06,480
Speaker 8: he learned the game, he studied the game, and I

2894
02:12:06,680 --> 02:12:11,680
Speaker 8: and Braden's been the same way. He's just improved. It

2895
02:12:11,760 --> 02:12:14,520
Speaker 8: went from freshman year making that. I always say there's

2896
02:12:14,560 --> 02:12:17,200
Speaker 8: the easy pass, then there's the harder pass, and then

2897
02:12:17,280 --> 02:12:19,800
Speaker 8: there's the one no one sees pass and and he's

2898
02:12:19,840 --> 02:12:23,120
Speaker 8: got to that point that other people don't see things

2899
02:12:23,240 --> 02:12:26,000
Speaker 8: that that he can see it and makes that read.

2900
02:12:27,360 --> 02:12:29,440
Speaker 8: And and he's had pretty good players because you don't

2901
02:12:29,440 --> 02:12:31,440
Speaker 8: get an assist, let somebody.

2902
02:12:31,200 --> 02:12:34,680
Speaker 3: Else makes the basket. But and that's helped along the way.

2903
02:12:34,880 --> 02:12:37,760
Speaker 8: But that's what I kept saying at the Big Ten

2904
02:12:37,840 --> 02:12:41,120
Speaker 8: Tournament that I want for Due to keep winning because

2905
02:12:41,160 --> 02:12:42,520
Speaker 8: I want him to break that record.

2906
02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:44,600
Speaker 3: And I just think it's really really cool, and it's

2907
02:12:44,760 --> 02:12:45,120
Speaker 3: it's up.

2908
02:12:45,280 --> 02:12:48,080
Speaker 8: It's Matt and his system too that has put him

2909
02:12:48,160 --> 02:12:51,320
Speaker 8: in this in this place to be able to break

2910
02:12:51,400 --> 02:12:55,520
Speaker 8: this record. And you know, it gives with him, it

2911
02:12:55,640 --> 02:12:57,680
Speaker 8: gives Purdue always a chance to win games.

2912
02:12:58,160 --> 02:13:00,960
Speaker 1: Coach, switching things up just a little bit, Butler's got

2913
02:13:01,040 --> 02:13:03,480
Speaker 1: an opening for head coach right now. What kind of

2914
02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:07,280
Speaker 1: coach should Butler be looking at right now? What are

2915
02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:08,880
Speaker 1: the qualifications? What do they need?

2916
02:13:09,760 --> 02:13:12,000
Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting. I had hope.

2917
02:13:12,080 --> 02:13:12,640
Speaker 2: I like that.

2918
02:13:13,080 --> 02:13:15,920
Speaker 8: I you know, I hoped he would have a little

2919
02:13:16,000 --> 02:13:19,760
Speaker 8: more success. I know he you know, obviously he would

2920
02:13:19,800 --> 02:13:22,880
Speaker 8: have too. And you know, he's an accomplished coach. And

2921
02:13:23,000 --> 02:13:27,400
Speaker 8: what he did, uh, you know, along his career. But

2922
02:13:27,920 --> 02:13:31,200
Speaker 8: you know, I guess it's somebody that it's that. I

2923
02:13:31,280 --> 02:13:34,480
Speaker 8: think evaluating talent is so so important.

2924
02:13:34,520 --> 02:13:34,640
Speaker 1: Now.

2925
02:13:35,480 --> 02:13:38,000
Speaker 8: I know you're saying, hey, I got we got to

2926
02:13:38,040 --> 02:13:39,840
Speaker 8: have the money. You got to have the money, but

2927
02:13:39,960 --> 02:13:42,800
Speaker 8: you also got to make the right decisions. And a

2928
02:13:42,920 --> 02:13:46,320
Speaker 8: guy that understands the game can find the guy that's

2929
02:13:46,360 --> 02:13:48,920
Speaker 8: who's going to win at some of these these you know,

2930
02:13:49,000 --> 02:13:51,200
Speaker 8: if you don't have the highest major in the highest

2931
02:13:51,400 --> 02:13:53,000
Speaker 8: you know, recruiting budget or.

2932
02:13:53,000 --> 02:13:55,000
Speaker 3: Whatever it is now nil budget.

2933
02:13:55,720 --> 02:13:57,800
Speaker 8: I'm not sure why they call it nil because no

2934
02:13:57,840 --> 02:14:01,040
Speaker 8: one does and name it is like this anymore, just

2935
02:14:01,120 --> 02:14:04,640
Speaker 8: give them money, So but it you know, I think

2936
02:14:04,720 --> 02:14:08,000
Speaker 8: that's so important, and I think it's something that's done

2937
02:14:08,000 --> 02:14:12,280
Speaker 8: a great job of evaluating talent and finding the guy

2938
02:14:12,520 --> 02:14:14,360
Speaker 8: that not only you know.

2939
02:14:14,680 --> 02:14:16,600
Speaker 3: Has potential, but he loves the game.

2940
02:14:16,680 --> 02:14:19,919
Speaker 8: He's competitive, uh, he wants to be at your program.

2941
02:14:21,040 --> 02:14:23,880
Speaker 8: And I think that's that's important both in the portal

2942
02:14:24,520 --> 02:14:26,920
Speaker 8: and coming kids coming out of high school. And I

2943
02:14:27,000 --> 02:14:30,600
Speaker 8: think even more than the portal. Now, have they won,

2944
02:14:30,840 --> 02:14:33,320
Speaker 8: have they been coached, have they been held accountable?

2945
02:14:34,280 --> 02:14:36,760
Speaker 3: You know, you know, I think all those things.

2946
02:14:36,840 --> 02:14:39,560
Speaker 8: It's not just who has stats you know, I think

2947
02:14:39,680 --> 02:14:43,360
Speaker 8: that's where some guys make mistakes and they just you know,

2948
02:14:44,160 --> 02:14:46,360
Speaker 8: they go buy stats, and that's not you got to

2949
02:14:46,400 --> 02:14:48,560
Speaker 8: You've got to evaluate him. So I think that's really

2950
02:14:48,560 --> 02:14:52,720
Speaker 8: important for somebody that is going to you know, find

2951
02:14:52,840 --> 02:14:54,840
Speaker 8: get that position and get them in the top of

2952
02:14:54,920 --> 02:14:56,360
Speaker 8: the top of the Big East.

2953
02:14:56,400 --> 02:15:00,560
Speaker 2: Again, well, coach, thank you. We always appreci at your insight.

2954
02:15:00,600 --> 02:15:02,480
Speaker 2: We've had a couple people reach out. They didn't really

2955
02:15:02,520 --> 02:15:05,280
Speaker 2: fully understand maybe your history with Matt Att Painters, So

2956
02:15:05,360 --> 02:15:08,400
Speaker 2: thank you for sharing that, and certainly we'll be watching

2957
02:15:08,440 --> 02:15:10,760
Speaker 2: for your insights here as we get closer to ending

2958
02:15:10,840 --> 02:15:11,200
Speaker 2: next week.

2959
02:15:12,160 --> 02:15:15,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, it should be fun great. You know, I'm really

2960
02:15:15,120 --> 02:15:18,000
Speaker 8: looking forward. Like I said, six Big Ten teams in

2961
02:15:18,160 --> 02:15:22,360
Speaker 8: there watching Purdue cheering for them. You know that.

2962
02:15:23,280 --> 02:15:25,760
Speaker 3: I thought that the Nebraska.

2963
02:15:25,320 --> 02:15:27,760
Speaker 8: Vanderbilt game was one of the coolest games I've ever

2964
02:15:28,120 --> 02:15:30,760
Speaker 8: you know, just for them to make you know, with

2965
02:15:30,880 --> 02:15:34,280
Speaker 8: the fans there and to get those couple of plays

2966
02:15:34,320 --> 02:15:35,879
Speaker 8: down the stretch and then to see.

2967
02:15:35,720 --> 02:15:38,840
Speaker 1: The ball bounce in the hoop, and I mean gotta

2968
02:15:38,880 --> 02:15:39,120
Speaker 1: love it.

2969
02:15:39,920 --> 02:15:41,960
Speaker 8: My wife and I were we jumped out of the

2970
02:15:42,000 --> 02:15:45,000
Speaker 8: bed because we really, you know, we know Fred Hoiberg

2971
02:15:45,080 --> 02:15:46,400
Speaker 8: and his family, and we.

2972
02:15:46,520 --> 02:15:47,520
Speaker 3: Were excited for them.

2973
02:15:47,680 --> 02:15:51,960
Speaker 8: So a lot of great stories in Michigan obviously been unbelievable.

2974
02:15:52,240 --> 02:15:54,720
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, we appreciate that. On that note,

2975
02:15:54,840 --> 02:15:56,440
Speaker 1: we will say goodbye, see you tomorrow much