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Speaker 1: of course, with peaks dot Com covering Indiana football, part

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Speaker 1: of the two four seven Sports Network. Matthew, let's get

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Speaker 1: heard a lot about it. Big challenge for Indiana in

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Speaker 1: Do you anticipate because Kurt Signetti had said, look, these

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Speaker 2: I would I mean, I would guess Oregon. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's begin with this from from just the health

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Speaker 2: I mean the guys that were out that are out,

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Speaker 1: The look Oregon to me and I go a little

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Speaker 1: the first go round in Eugene was it was kind

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean, like you said, getting guys in space.

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Speaker 2: And so like I said, they got some good linemen,

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Speaker 4: Matt, you've you've.

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Speaker 1: Covered this team right, and you've been around it in

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, because I mean, obviously you've got to change the

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Speaker 2: when things went bad, but it was almost like it

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Speaker 2: was inevitable, Like you know, something's going to happen and

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Speaker 2: And he was like, Matt, I won sixteen games in

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Speaker 4: That's just where it is.

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Speaker 2: It's just incredible, Like it's hard to wrap your hand up,

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Speaker 2: especially for people. You know, I was inside the program,

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Speaker 2: it's just it's mind boggling, like it's I mean, when

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Speaker 2: I think he might have said it tongue in cheek,

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Speaker 1: But see, Matt, And here's what I keep going back to,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with all of that, and it is interesting,

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Speaker 1: But how much of this when the movie does come out,

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Speaker 1: how much of the movie is going to be about

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? And if there is O a movie, then Skyt

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Speaker 4: How would I approach this?

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Speaker 2: And you got you had to find a guy who

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Speaker 4: And I was like, you can't worry about ten years

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Speaker 2: You've got to win right now, like you worry about

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Speaker 5: But if you don't, you're going to get left behind.

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Speaker 2: You're going to be outside when they shut that when

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. I didn't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody could ever have dreamed this. But

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Speaker 2: So but like I said, for me to think they

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Speaker 1: I'm past the point, Matt, of questioning or finding reasons

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Speaker 4: But here's my question for you.

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Speaker 1: As we see now Indiana cashing in on this cachet

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Speaker 1: Matt Weaver the guest Java House Peel and Poor guest

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean it'll be you know, obviously last week

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Speaker 5: Can they do that?

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Speaker 2: Can they take care of the ball. They've done a

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Speaker 4: So that's what I look for every week.

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Speaker 2: You know, they come out and play with that physical nature,

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Speaker 1: Peaks dot Com where you can read all of the

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Speaker 1: coverage Indiana and Oregon. Matt will be all over at

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Speaker 4: Matt, I appreciate the time as always, have a good weekend.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Matt Weaver joining us. The proof is in

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Speaker 1: the pudding. They're the best team in college football. Chris

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Speaker 1: poor guest line, and my understanding is Ditto is in

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Speaker 8: And we're a little over two hours away. We've hit

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Speaker 1: Okay, so wait a minute, you said two hours from Atlanta.

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Speaker 7: No, we are not.

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Speaker 8: We're about five minutes from five to ten minutes from Chattanooga.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, the proximity obviously helps right now,

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Speaker 8: thing to to forget about the play and move on

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Speaker 8: to the next one. That's a whole other thing to

440
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Speaker 8: take the very next drive and against Iowa drive down

441
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Speaker 8: and win the game. Against Oregon, drive down and win

442
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Speaker 8: the game, and then against we all know what they

443
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Speaker 8: did against Penn State. So his ability to forget about

444
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Speaker 8: plays and move on to the next is is by far,

445
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Speaker 8: you know, as good as I think I've ever seen

446
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Speaker 8: anyone at the college level to be able to overcome

447
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Speaker 8: mistakes and move on to the next play because of

448
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Speaker 8: you know, the rather huge mistakes that he made on

449
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Speaker 8: each of those three road games, but the very next

450
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Speaker 8: drive he was able to go and lead the team

451
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Speaker 8: to a next to a touchdown to win the game.

452
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Speaker 8: And I think it's just program wide, team wide, because

453
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Speaker 8: I think we've all heard when he makes those mistakes,

454
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Speaker 8: who's he's got his back Aiden Fisher, He's coming to

455
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Speaker 8: him immediately saying, we've got your back.

456
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Speaker 7: We'll get a stop and then you'll go down and score.

457
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Speaker 8: So it's just an incredible belief that's permeated throughout the

458
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Speaker 8: entire team and program that obviously you know, starts with

459
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Speaker 8: coach Signetti, to Mike Shanahan, to Bryan Haynes, all of

460
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Speaker 8: these guys that we know, they're so confident and if

461
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Speaker 8: they do make a mistake, which we know are very

462
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Speaker 8: few that this team is made throughout the year, they

463
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Speaker 8: come back and they're better.

464
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Speaker 7: They're better the next time.

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Speaker 1: Does Indiana play with a bravada and a confidence because

466
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Speaker 1: they see it in their coach that believes in them?

467
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Speaker 1: Or does Indiana have a coach that carries with him

468
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Speaker 1: of bravada because he knows his players will deliver on

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Speaker 1: what he wants.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think I think it starts with the coach,

471
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Speaker 8: and the coach has such belief in them that the

472
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Speaker 8: players have they he just he just gives.

473
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Speaker 7: There's no gray area with him.

474
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Speaker 8: With coach Signetti, she leaves no doubt for them, and

475
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Speaker 8: I believe it. You know, it started, It starts in

476
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Speaker 8: January of you know, twenty twenty five, and then it

477
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Speaker 8: just builds throughout the entire spring and then through the

478
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Speaker 8: summer and then August preseason camp. That they've got such

479
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Speaker 8: a system down. The coaching staff does that their ability

480
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Speaker 8: to then pass.

481
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Speaker 7: That onto the team. So if my coach was able to.

482
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Speaker 8: Give us the confidence and the game plan and the

483
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Speaker 8: ability to believe they've got no choice, it's going to

484
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Speaker 8: happen because coach Sinnetti accepts nothing less that comes to

485
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Speaker 8: believing that they will win and can I mean just

486
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Speaker 8: depends day game alone. There's so many examples this year,

487
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Speaker 8: but that game alone was incredible with their backs against

488
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Speaker 8: the wall and Happy Valley and the ability to drive

489
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Speaker 8: down and score to win that game.

490
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Speaker 1: Have you seen more billboards, Christido in your drive to

491
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Speaker 1: the Peach Bawl? Have you seen more billboards in the

492
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Speaker 1: last two hours for BUCkies or Rock City?

493
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Speaker 7: Yeah?

494
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Speaker 8: You know, Unfortunately there's only two BUCkies between here, between

495
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Speaker 8: Indianapolis and Atlanta, so I'd stay there's probably more Rock

496
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Speaker 8: City billboard, but it's weird. You know, we've all seen

497
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Speaker 8: the Bucky billboards and you know it's like two hundred

498
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Speaker 8: and thirty seven miles to the next They let you

499
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Speaker 8: know that, right, You're like, yeah, You're like, okay, well,

500
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Speaker 8: I guess we'll wait.

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Speaker 4: Well now to the next album.

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Speaker 1: Listen, Chris, if you want in on this, Okay, are

503
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Speaker 1: you familiar? You're probably not. The Querry Gas and Gold.

504
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Speaker 1: Now I'm not going to I'm not. I can't compete

505
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Speaker 1: with BUCkies. But in that stretch between Bloomington and Evansville

506
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Speaker 1: where there's like one gas station for seven, the Querry

507
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Speaker 1: Gas and Gulp. Now here's what I'm gonna have. Okay, combos,

508
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Speaker 1: fountain drinks, dip and clean bathrooms and gas.

509
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Speaker 7: That's it.

510
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Speaker 1: That's all you need, right, That's that is the road

511
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Speaker 1: trip staple, is it not? Maybe some beef jerkey maybe

512
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Speaker 1: beef jerky.

513
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Speaker 8: Combos is Yeah, you're just gonna say combos.

514
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Speaker 7: And I'm Insquary Gas and Gold. I like that.

515
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Quarry Gas and Gold.

516
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Speaker 7: You might need some pr behind that. Just hold me.

517
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Speaker 1: I know, listen, anything I do needs pr I know

518
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Speaker 1: that much. What's what's the game plan once you're down there?

519
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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you're gonna get down there early, and

520
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Speaker 1: we know that there are tons of Indiana fans that

521
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Speaker 1: are going to be there. So what is exactly the

522
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Speaker 1: game plan in the pregame press if you will.

523
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Speaker 8: Yeah, so we're gonna, you know, hopefully be at the

524
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Speaker 8: hotel in the next two hours, drop off our stuff,

525
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Speaker 8: and then just go because where r Hotel's about fifteen

526
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Speaker 8: to twenty minute walk to the stadium. And what's been

527
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Speaker 8: one of the coolest things about this run in the

528
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Speaker 8: last two years and especially the last month is started

529
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Speaker 8: off with probably you know, a former player group text

530
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Speaker 8: started off with about ten guys. That's grown to probably

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Speaker 8: fifty plus guys. And I would say there were thirty

532
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Speaker 8: to fifty guys in Pasadena. I'm here, and there's going

533
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Speaker 8: to be close to one hundred four and former players

534
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Speaker 8: that will be in Atlanta. And do you know Dan Thompson.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I know, I don't know, but I know.

536
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

537
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Speaker 8: So he's got a huge tailgate prepared that's a ten

538
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Speaker 8: minute walk to the stadium. And I mean there's gonna

539
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Speaker 8: like Brett Law, Matt Bomba, whose sons on the team,

540
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Speaker 8: just a ton of guys from the eighties and nineties

541
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Speaker 8: and early two thousands that are gonna be there that

542
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Speaker 8: you know, we've all we're now all on this text string.

543
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Speaker 8: It said Rose Bowl twenty twenty five, now it says

544
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Speaker 8: Peach Bowl twenty twenty six. And it's been incredible to

545
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,959
Speaker 8: reconnect with guys we haven't heard from in years and

546
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Speaker 8: then be able to see them here in a couple

547
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Speaker 8: of hours and spend time with them last week in Pasadena,

548
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Speaker 8: and to be able to just share this experience with

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Speaker 8: all of them, because you know what, obviously we've never

550
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Speaker 8: had the success that they're having now, but we all

551
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Speaker 8: love Indiana football. We all, you know, bleed Indiana football,

552
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Speaker 8: and it's just we are taking so much pride in

553
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Speaker 8: this run, and it's been so exciting to watch this

554
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Speaker 8: and tonight, I think it's going to be a much

555
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Speaker 8: tougher and different challenge than Alabama was. I don't think

556
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Speaker 8: anybody stall what we did to Alabama coming. But and

557
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Speaker 8: you know, watching Dan Lanney and watching Kurt Signetti interact

558
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Speaker 8: and their press conferences has been pretty incredible to watch

559
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Speaker 8: as well, because Dan Lady is a clever, smart, motivated

560
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Speaker 8: head coach, so they were going to have.

561
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Speaker 7: Their hands full, but we are.

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Speaker 8: I'm very excited to get down see a bunch of guys.

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Speaker 8: I mean, John Pacey, Trent Green, all these dudes are

564
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Speaker 8: going to be down there, so it's going to be

565
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Speaker 8: so fun and I and it's also fun to hear

566
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Speaker 8: the guys on the team in their interviews talk about

567
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Speaker 8: how excited.

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Speaker 7: They are, motive they are.

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Speaker 8: But I've seen you know, they said the Big Ten

570
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Speaker 8: Championship game felt like a home game, The Rose Bull

571
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Speaker 8: felt like a home game. The more I think about it,

572
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Speaker 8: the more I'm thinking this game is going to be

573
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Speaker 8: ninety percent Indiana fans. And I mean, what more could

574
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Speaker 8: you ask for if you're the current team or a

575
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Speaker 8: former player to see you know, I think you said it.

576
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Speaker 8: People have said it. It's just a sleeping giant of

577
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Speaker 8: a fan base that has been starved for football that's

578
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Speaker 8: awake and they're going every single second.

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Speaker 1: Yeah not for twenty years, right, yeah, Okay for fifty

580
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Speaker 1: years ago.

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Speaker 4: Chris. Let me let me finish with this.

582
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Speaker 1: And I know I've asked you this before and I'll

583
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Speaker 1: probably ask you again when Indiana's playing against Miami in

584
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Speaker 1: a week, when you're on your way down to Miami

585
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Speaker 1: Gardens and you know, I mean you're dropping sixteen grand

586
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: on tickets because Miami's caught all of them, right, But

587
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Speaker 1: give me the and it might take you a second

588
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: to think about it, okay, but I want you to

589
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Speaker 1: give me the three to four people that all of

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Speaker 1: this that when you think about it, whether they're still here,

591
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Speaker 1: whether they're watching from above, whatever it might be, give

592
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Speaker 1: me the three or four people personally or within the

593
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Speaker 1: program that you truly are the happiest for, and you

594
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Speaker 1: think to yourself, they believed in this when no one

595
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Speaker 1: else did.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 8: I mean, number one would be Bill Mallory. I think

598
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Speaker 8: he and his wife Ellie, and I think he would

599
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 8: have so much pride and experiencing this and watching this

600
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Speaker 8: team and watching how because Kurt Signetty's a bit of

601
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Speaker 8: a throwback, you know, he's an old school guy. He's

602
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Speaker 8: cut from the same cloth I feel like for as

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Speaker 8: coach Mallory was. But he's the number one person that

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Speaker 8: comes to mind, along with his wife because she was

605
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Speaker 8: such a huge missus. Alli Mallory was such a huge

606
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Speaker 8: support group for him. And she's still living and I

607
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 8: know she's probably following this, and you.

608
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Speaker 7: Know, and his boys.

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Speaker 8: You know, when we played against Indiana State the first

610
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Speaker 8: or second third game of the year, Kurt Mallory was there,

611
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Speaker 8: Mike Mallory was there, Doug, all of his kids were there.

612
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 8: Blimmington India University means so much to the Mallory family.

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Speaker 8: So all of those folks I know are loving this run.

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Speaker 8: Don Fisher has to be number two for me because

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Speaker 8: of the fifty years that he's put in Indiana football.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's incredible what he's gone through. And I

617
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 8: looked to them on your show every Monday. I love

618
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Speaker 8: listening to his perspective and how much he has enjoyed

619
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Speaker 8: this run for Indiana football.

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Speaker 7: He's right up there.

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Speaker 8: And honestly, the group of guys that I'm about to

622
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Speaker 8: see here in a couple of hours and well, because

623
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Speaker 8: I know, I mean, we've all shed tears, you know,

624
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Speaker 8: over the last month at the Big Ten championship game

625
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Speaker 8: at the Rose Bowl. I mean we're literally all getting together.

626
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Speaker 8: We have some beers, we try, we say we can't

627
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Speaker 8: believe this is happening, and then we.

628
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Speaker 7: Say we and then we talked the next money. You're like,

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Speaker 7: oh my gosh, we get to do this again. How

630
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 7: luck here.

631
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Speaker 8: We that this continues, and none of us wanted to end.

632
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 8: You know, none of us wanted to end tonight. We

633
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 8: all want to be able to do exactly what you said,

634
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Speaker 8: spend way way too much money on a potential National

635
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 8: championship game ticket to next week. Was really rooting for Mississippi.

636
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Speaker 7: Last night, but then I thought about it.

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Speaker 8: You know, miss the Sippy fans are there, they will

638
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 8: be as crazed as Indiana fans are. And I don't

639
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 8: think that ticket prices would have droped at all if

640
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 8: Mississippi was in it. So so it's I I really

641
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 8: appreciate that question because it just I know what me

642
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 8: and I've only said kind of three groups of people,

643
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Speaker 8: but I know that they're you know Scott Dolson too,

644
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Speaker 8: that guy I know who everybody wants a statue of pursuit,

645
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 8: and he will get a statue eventually outside of Memorial Stadium.

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Speaker 8: But my word, Scott Dowson and the the foresight and

647
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Speaker 8: leadership that he had to pick and the guts to

648
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Speaker 8: pick a coach from James Madison to come and be

649
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Speaker 8: the head coach at Indiana when no one else was

650
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Speaker 8: willing to take a coach a chance on him in

651
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,719
Speaker 8: his forty years forty year career at a at a

652
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 8: powerful conference and Scott Dolson interviewed him, identified him, told

653
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Speaker 8: Pamela wentten, this is our guy and my goodness, and

654
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Speaker 8: Scott Dolson he could not be a more humble person

655
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 8: coming out of Bloomington, Indiana that you'll ever meet. So

656
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 8: he deserves all of the accolades. And success is coming

657
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Speaker 8: for the program right now, and it's it's just a blast,

658
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 8: by the way, fortunate.

659
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: If and when Indiana wins it all or wins tonight.

660
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm putting right now clubhouse leader for the videos that

661
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: look like Michael Irvan on the sideline amongst former players,

662
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: I'm putting his Brett Law clubhouse leader, Brett Law.

663
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 7: BPA.

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Speaker 8: That's what they say, right ask and whatever. Michael Irvan,

665
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 8: that might be the worst thing. I mean, nice guy,

666
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 8: but that is there anything more annoying than when they

667
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 8: show him on the sideline those games.

668
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, that's all that's part of the

669
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,719
Speaker 1: branding of the U. But that's what's going to make

670
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: it fun when Indiana goes down there. If they take

671
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: care of business tonight. Chris travels safe, enjoy the drive

672
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: through Chattanooga and Rock City, and then we'll talk to

673
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: you next week before the game against Miami.

674
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Speaker 7: I'd love to man, thank you for having me. Really

675
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 7: appreciate it.

676
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: And all right, Chris did on joining US Indiana and

677
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: Oregon tonight. I don't know if you heard, but they

678
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: played a night down at the Peach Bowl in Atlanta,

679
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: the winner taking on Miami and the National Championship game

680
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: in wait for it, Miami, which is why tickets have

681
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: gone up just a little bit. We should ask Kevin

682
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: Bowen if he has a plastic Indiana helmet and a

683
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: plastic Oregon helmet for his son to pick the game.

684
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Speaker 1: He joins us now in the Java House Peel and

685
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: Port guest line you. Of course, hear him on the

686
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: Fan Morning Show along with James Boyd and Jeff Rickard.

687
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen joining us on the program. Kevin, is your

688
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: son going to pick the game?

689
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 5: So I have two college helmets. They are a little

690
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 5: actually at three back in the day, and I feel like,

691
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 5: in Jake Querry fashion, he would love to guess the

692
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 5: three helmets.

693
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Speaker 4: Thank you.

694
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Speaker 1: I'm going to guess that the three helmets you have

695
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: would be a Notre dame helmet, Ding, ding Ding. I'll

696
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: say that you have an Indiana helmet a helmet.

697
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 5: My hint is this the other two helmets used to

698
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 5: be conference foes, not in the Big ten. I'll just

699
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 5: say the conference, the Big twelve conference for these two helmets,

700
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 5: one I think can make some sense. The other one,

701
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Speaker 5: I'll have to tell you. I think the reason why

702
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 5: I got it. Okay, go ahead and guess.

703
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 4: Allow me to ask this. Are they still in the

704
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 4: Big twelve?

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Speaker 5: One? Yeah, one is, but you know I had a

706
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 5: pause even saying if that one is still in there.

707
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Speaker 1: One is still in the Big twelve. That rules out Texas.

708
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: But I'll say Texas, both of them at one time

709
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: we're in the Big twelve?

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00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 5: You said, Or they are this this man he's a

711
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 5: SMARTI yes, Texas is one of them two? So who

712
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Speaker 5: is the other still in the Big two?

713
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 4: School? The other one is still in the Big twelve.

714
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: Now that's what throws me up, because I believe Oklahoma

715
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: also defected into the SEC.

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00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken, and that would make sense.

717
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: Is there any let me ask you this, is there

718
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: any plausible reason why you would have had said helmet

719
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: as a kid, or is it just like it was

720
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: at a garage sale and it looked cool.

721
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Speaker 5: None. I mean, I literally can't even think of a

722
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 5: Colts player that came from this school. I gave it

723
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 5: to Mark Peer. Shout out to Mark Pierre, who I

724
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 5: grew up with. He was a die hard Bleep Bleep fan,

725
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 5: and that's why I gave him my many helmet.

726
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, So this is a school that has

727
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: a die hard fan in the area, in the.

728
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Speaker 5: Area, correct, yes, uh huh yeah, and it's the only

729
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 5: fan of the school I've ever come across in my life.

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma State ooh.

731
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Speaker 5: Kansas State?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

733
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Speaker 5: Okay, I think I might got it because of Michael Bishop.

734
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Speaker 5: Do you remember that name?

735
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 3: Oh?

736
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, quarterback hold On.

737
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 5: Yeah.

738
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Speaker 1: By the way, the the Colts had was it didn't

739
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: they have a linebacker named Askia Jones?

740
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: What was his name?

741
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: Not?

742
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 7: Was it? Now?

743
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 4: Hold on a Skia Jones was a basketball player. Basket

744
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 4: that was for Kansas State.

745
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Speaker 5: That's not ringing a bell. I mean, you obviously you've

746
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 5: got pretty good Colts.

747
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: Sat Elijah Alexander. Elijah Alexander I think was a Kansas

748
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: State guy.

749
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Speaker 3: Oh.

750
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Speaker 5: And you know, now that I think about it, wasn't

751
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 5: Ryan Lilja Kansas State guy.

752
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: I think that's right. Yeah, I think that's right. You

753
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: had a buddy that was a Kansas State fan, a state.

754
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 5: Fan, I know, Mark Mark Pierre. I think he moved

755
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 5: from Kansas State. But I went to Junior High with

756
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 5: a McClay and he was a I mean, like a

757
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 5: big Kansas and you know with what's his name, Bill Snyder.

758
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 5: I mean they had a decent little run there was.

759
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 5: I mean I remember, yeah, I'm trying to think twenty

760
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 5: eleven or twelve, they almost made the national championship. They

761
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 5: like pulled off a big or maybe they lost late

762
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 5: in the season at helping Notre Dame get to the

763
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 5: national title. I remember being very happy about that. Colin Klein,

764
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Speaker 5: I think it was their quarterback.

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Speaker 1: If that rings a bell, Colin, and that's it, I said,

766
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: Chad Hutchinson, Colin Klein, that sounds right now that you

767
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: mention it. Okay, Kevin, let's begin with this before we

768
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: get to Indiana Oregon, because I do want to get

769
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: into that, but I want to and I know you

770
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: did it in the morning show, but just kind of

771
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: give you a chance to recap. I thought and We'll

772
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Speaker 1: begin with carl Ers Gordon and just her press conference

773
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Speaker 1: in general. I don't know if you heard what I

774
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: was just saying, but I wonder if it wasn't so

775
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: much about the fact that she wanted to and stay,

776
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Speaker 1: you know, believes in Chris ballain and change staking and

777
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: that as much as she just felt right now like

778
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: with her tenure and everything else, like, it wouldn't have

779
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: been the time even if she wanted to make a move,

780
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: if you will, where did you see it?

781
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Speaker 4: You see it? Yeah?

782
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 5: I mean that's that's a thought that's crossed my mind.

783
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 5: I you know, part of me thought this, Jake, like

784
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 5: you know, Okay, so her dad passes in May. You know,

785
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 5: June is when she has that press conference with her sisters,

786
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 5: you know, through June and July. Well, the first time

787
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 5: I think we're in your position, like that of any

788
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 5: whatever ownership CEO, have everyone to find it. I think

789
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 5: you always have to plan for you know, what's in

790
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 5: that top right drawer, you know, what does that list

791
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 5: look like? Because you never know when Andrew Luck's going

792
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 5: to shock the world. You never know when Josh McDaniels

793
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 5: is gonna whatever turn us back on you et cetera,

794
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 5: et cetera. So you know, I would think for the

795
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 5: June and July months, as optimistic as he would like

796
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 5: to be about the season, you know, so much of

797
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 5: the Chris Bauer resume especially, and even a little ssichen

798
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 5: would say, hey, you know, things don't go well this year,

799
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 5: we might need to make changes. So you know, you're

800
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 5: kind of planning for that now. Maybe two months into

801
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 5: the year that doesn't start to look necessarily like it's

802
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 5: going to be happening. But still, you know that that

803
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 5: was a thought that I had. I mean, you know,

804
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 5: I've always been curious just you know, from a thirty

805
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 5: to forty million dollar decision given you know, the nature

806
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 5: of you know, going from their dad to the daughters.

807
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 5: And again I'm pretty uneducated when it comes to all

808
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 5: the finances. You know, how how much of that was

809
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 5: at play, if at all? Or is that just kind

810
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 5: of a stupid thought even bring up.

811
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Speaker 1: No, I think it's a legitimate until we hear otherwise, Kevin,

812
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that's a reason, but I've mentioned that too.

813
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there have to be I would assume,

814
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: you know, just logistics, and that's maybe the wrong word

815
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: but the finances of all of it. I would imagine

816
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: that it's not like you just walk in and you go, okay,

817
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: you know, we we got to register online and make

818
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: sure that everybody knows who owns the franchise. Now there's

819
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: a lot that goes into that, right from taxes and

820
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: all of that, And you wonder if it wasn't hey,

821
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Speaker 1: we got to spend the first year handling the business

822
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: side of this, and then we can get into the

823
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: football side, which would be understandable if that was the thought,

824
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: right right.

825
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know that Again, it's a thought that's kind

826
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 5: of crossed my mind. But my hand is fully raised,

827
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Speaker 5: and I don't have a great, great understanding when it

828
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 5: comes to that. You know, I think after hearing Carly

829
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 5: and then hearing Chris yesterday, I mean, I think it's

830
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 5: pretty clear that whatever affinity that we might have thought

831
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 5: the orsays have towards Chris Ballard, I would say it's

832
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 5: even high. I mean the fact that you know, Chris

833
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 5: mentioned yesterday that, you know, the top question to Carly

834
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 5: to him was you know, do you still have your

835
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 5: shimmer or juju? To me, that's a question you ask,

836
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 5: you know, I guess to go back to our Kansas

837
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 5: State analogy. That's what you ask seventy year old Bill Snyder.

838
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 5: That's what you ask, you know, Jim Beheim coach k

839
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 5: Roy Williams when all these changes are happening in college basketball,

840
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 5: and hey, do you still have the same sort of

841
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 5: whatever confidence belief that you can get it done? To me,

842
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 5: that's not the top question you ask a guy whose

843
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 5: resume is as bleak as Ballard. So that was kind

844
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 5: of eye opening, honestly.

845
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 4: The Ballard himself, Kevin. My frustration.

846
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: Is simply the fact that I just felt like there

847
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: were going to be a lot of questions about, you know,

848
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: for Chris Ballard. Of I think people would have liked

849
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: to have seen for him, I did, you know, for

850
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: him to come out and say and I get it,

851
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: you know, look, it's him good enough, whatever else, but

852
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: but kind of more of just an explanation of like

853
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: where the vision is, why we should be optimistic, et cetera.

854
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: It felt to me like same old song and dance

855
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: from him. And maybe that's too Am I being too

856
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: harsh in saying it that way?

857
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 3: That way?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I guess speaking first of ballads like Temperament,

859
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 5: I thought he was less animated than he usually is.

860
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 5: I mean, he really wasn't as I mean, yeah, and

861
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 5: he got philosophical on a pain versus suffering sermon. But

862
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 5: outside of that, I didn't think he was as whatever,

863
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 5: banging of the table, cussing, you know, getting a little

864
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 5: snippy like he can. You know, I didn't really sense

865
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Speaker 5: any of that, you know, as far as what is different,

866
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Speaker 5: you know, I think there isn't or like words wise,

867
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 5: not necessarily temperament wise. I mean, I do think there's

868
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Speaker 5: an element of simply of you know, to echo probably

869
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 5: what Carly said more than Chris, of Hey, our first

870
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 5: two months the season, we're going great, and we just

871
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 5: need to, you know, pray to the football God. It's harder. Again.

872
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 5: That's probably more where Carly came from than Chris. I

873
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 5: thought there were kind of two big areas of improvement

874
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 5: out of Chris, one a little bit more tangible than

875
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 5: the other. The one that he feels like he's got

876
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 5: to improve is the defense. We got to get younger,

877
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 5: we got to get faster. He said that on several occasions,

878
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,479
Speaker 5: particularly when it comes to the defensive front. And then two,

879
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 5: this is a little bit more you know, abstract, but

880
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 5: it is, Hey, we've got to finish games better, We've

881
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 5: got to handle adversity better. You know, if you look

882
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 5: at the five year playoff drought, you could really make

883
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 5: a case to varying degrees, but they have collapsed in

884
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 5: some former fashion in all five of those years. This

885
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 5: is not like they've kind of backed, you know, in

886
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 5: twenty twenty, I guess twenty eighteen. Especially at twenty eighteen,

887
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 5: I want to say they started one in five and

888
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 5: then they got super hot late in the season to

889
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 5: get into the postseason. There, you know, that's not been

890
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 5: I mean, I can't imagine the last time they've had

891
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 5: a winning December January combination, in particular obviously the games

892
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 5: that truly truly matter. So you know, I thought those

893
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 5: were the two things that were front from Ballard at least, like,

894
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 5: you know, plan of attack again, temperament. I don't know,

895
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 5: pretty same old, same ole. I'm trying not to be

896
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 5: like apathetic towards it, because you know, you could have

897
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 5: had Bark Dyton play audio for me this morning and

898
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 5: said what press conference do you think this clip was from?

899
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 5: And I could have named five different years, So you know,

900
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 5: I do fall into that trap at times with them.

901
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 4: I mean that that is my thing of it.

902
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: It just feels like the same story, and I mean,

903
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: I'll say it simply in that term. It feels like

904
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: the same story. But as you walked away from it, Kevin,

905
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, Kevin bow and my guest

906
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: Jaba House Peel and Port guest line. Of course, you

907
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: hear him on the Morning Show along with James Boyd

908
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: and jeff Rickord from seven until ten am here on

909
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: the fan. As you walked away, Kevin, give me the

910
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: question about the Colts off season that was most burning

911
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: to you when you pulled into West fifty sixth Street,

912
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: that was still lingering in your head when you left

913
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: West fifty sixth Street.

914
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 5: Well, I'll just add one more and you're you're a

915
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 5: good sport, so you won't take this as big of

916
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 5: a dig as you know, maybe people listening in their

917
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 5: car will. But to me, Ballard is defending a resume

918
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 5: that looks like Jake Querry's transcript from Kansas and IU.

919
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 4: Yes, that is correct answer.

920
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm aware now and we're specifically in the math and

921
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: sciences aspect for me, right.

922
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yes, So again I know you are a

923
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 5: good sport, so you can you can take that. But

924
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 5: uh yeah, I mean that's it's an analogy that I thought,

925
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 5: but I figured I would save it for two o'clock

926
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 5: on a Friday with you. Yeah, I mean as far

927
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,959
Speaker 5: as the question, I mean, I will you know again,

928
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 5: I will say this about ballet.

929
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: I do.

930
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 5: And you know, maybe no one cares about this, but

931
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 5: I do think from a press conference setting, he is

932
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 5: usually a little bit more candid than I think most gms.

933
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 5: So I was curious, like, okay, what is this literally

934
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 5: just praying to the football gods like we did everything

935
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 5: right the first two months of the season. And again

936
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 5: he didn't go all the way there. He made it

937
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 5: very clear that defensively, again, you've got to get younger

938
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 5: and you got to get faster. Now, certainly I can

939
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 5: hear people say, and I'm one of them. I brought

940
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 5: it up this morning. Wait, aren't you the one that's

941
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 5: built this defense for years and years and years and

942
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 5: now you know you needed a new coordinator last year

943
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 5: and now you need to get younger and faster. You

944
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 5: know all of that. So you know those are obviously fair.

945
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 5: I mean there probably is still a root of it

946
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 5: of like, we'll see how much they actually change this defense.

947
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 5: But I mean, you are still needing to pray to

948
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 5: the football gods very significantly, Like you need Daniel Jones

949
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 5: to have an abnormal Achilles recovery, you need Deforce Buckner

950
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 5: to come back from a next surgery at the age

951
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 5: of thirty one. Uh. And I guess if Javarius Horen plays,

952
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 5: which is a huge question, you know, I guess that

953
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 5: question is very much up in the air in my opinion,

954
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 5: And so who knows what that cornerback position becomes. Obviously

955
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 5: a lot of pressure on saus Gardner, a lot of

956
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 5: pressure on Justin Whally coming back from the torn acl

957
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 5: you know, Kenny Moore given his age. So I mean,

958
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 5: those are probably some of the lingering questions of without

959
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 5: a first round pick, with so much of the cap

960
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 5: space looking like it needs to go to quarterback and

961
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 5: wide out, you know, how do you create that cap space?

962
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 5: How do you are you are you just relying on

963
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 5: instant impact defensive guys, which is just a lot to

964
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 5: ask for, particularly with the defensive coordinator that I don't

965
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 5: think has always been eagerly awaiting playing young players.

966
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 4: By the way, Kevin, do you happen to know. We're

967
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 4: doing a little cult trivia here. You ready. First off, First.

968
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: Off, let me say this. The difference between my academic

969
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: resume and Chris Ballard's resume is my academic resume was

970
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: disaster in the beginning, got better as it went along,

971
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: kind of the opposite, right.

972
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 5: Okay, so you you handle adversity.

973
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 4: Well, I do well.

974
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 5: I had a feeling you would go. I was hesitant

975
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 5: to bring it up because I had a feeling you

976
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 5: it would. It would weigh on you a little bit,

977
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 5: and you would and you would come back to it

978
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 5: at some point in the interview.

979
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 4: But uh, yeah, no, I listen, list.

980
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 7: I mean.

981
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: My year at the University of Kansas Academy was basically

982
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday air drop, end season, right.

983
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's about how that went.

984
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: So it was not until I don't know that I

985
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: handle adversity as much as like, it's a lot easier

986
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: to do at fifty than it is at twenty. Focus

987
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: was was a bit of a challenge.

988
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: Okay.

989
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: But here's my question for you, Speaking of academics, I

990
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: have an academic trivia question for you.

991
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 4: Kevin Bowen. You ready, You're ready? Yes?

992
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: I would like for you to tell me what Colts

993
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: running back DJ Giddens and Juju Brents have in common.

994
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, Giddins, How did I forget that one? Giddens

995
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 5: for sure? Yeah, I mean Juju started at Kansas State, yeah,

996
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 5: and then transferred to Er.

997
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 7: Yeah.

998
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 5: No, he started Iowa was and.

999
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 1: Started I would finish at Kansas State, right, yeah, yeah.

1000
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 5: And then Giddens for sure.

1001
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah.

1002
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 5: Those two just went right Probably shows you how much

1003
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 5: JJ Giddens played this year, that it just went right

1004
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 5: right over the top of my.

1005
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: Head, Kevin, and going back and looking at and assessing

1006
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: the Colts season, and I know that Daniel Jones, you know,

1007
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: we can look at it and say and we can

1008
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: discuss till the cows come home. The me of, you know,

1009
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: attributing things to injury and et cetera. My one concern,

1010
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: and I want you to talk me off this ledge,

1011
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: but my one concern would be that I thought as

1012
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: much if you look at the way Daniel Jones played,

1013
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: and he was sensational during the you know, when the

1014
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: Colts got off to their great start, and we can

1015
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: say that it was once he had Initially I think

1016
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: it was a strain and then you know, obviously it

1017
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: turned the microfracture in his leg. We can say that

1018
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: that's when things started to regress, but my concern is

1019
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: that things started to regress even before that, when teams

1020
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: started to physically cut, like blitz at him in Pittsburgh

1021
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: in particular, and that that blueprint was then out there

1022
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: that caused him to kind of slip back into New

1023
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: York Giant Daniel Jones. And that is something that if

1024
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: it maintains as it was, they're going to be played

1025
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: differently next year and it's going to be a challenge

1026
00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: for them when he's healthy and assuming he's here out

1027
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong in that assessment.

1028
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 5: No, I mean I think there's a couple of Daniel

1029
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 5: Jones questions. One, you know, obviously from an achilles standpoint,

1030
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 5: you know, he's got to get back to full health.

1031
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 5: And you know, the thing I've kept saying about Jones

1032
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 5: is to me, it's not when he can play, it's

1033
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 5: when can he be himself? Because you know you can

1034
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,439
Speaker 5: make the case fibula wise that kind of limited him,

1035
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 5: and you know, you look at Tyler Warren's numbers, for example,

1036
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 5: I think it really limited a guy like Warren, you know,

1037
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 5: not having some of that bootleg stuff, and you know

1038
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 5: a lot of the players that they dialed up to Warren.

1039
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 5: And then you know, even if you put the injury

1040
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 5: to the side, I think there still is a general

1041
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 5: you know, can Daniel Jones deliver over the course of

1042
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 5: an NFL season? I mean, you know, I think of

1043
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 5: this year taught us anything. It is just another reminder

1044
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 5: of the NFL season. It might be the shortest of

1045
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 5: you know, the major professional sports, but man is at

1046
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 5: a grind. I mean, it is seventeen weeks is a

1047
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 5: long long time, and you know you're proving yourself on

1048
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 5: these individual Sundays. You know, week in a week out

1049
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 5: is no guarantee. And there's obviously a ton of parody

1050
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 5: around the league, and you know, Jones obviously was stiching

1051
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 5: there was nothing to go off of until you know,

1052
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 5: September whatever, and then you know, did the NFL kind

1053
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 5: of catch up? Obviously the schedule is very backloaded. You know,

1054
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 5: there was one kind of hypothetical I thought of that

1055
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 5: I don't know if people care about, but you know

1056
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 5: how much Carly really stressed that eight and two start.

1057
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 5: I am curious if you just reverse some fifty to

1058
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 5: fifty games both ways. You know, if you take whatever

1059
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 5: Denver and Arizona early in the season, and if you

1060
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 5: say the Colts lose those, but then you come back

1061
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 5: later in the year and you say, hey, they win

1062
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 5: in Kansas City, they finished that game in Seattle. But

1063
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 5: it's more of a balanced eight to nine A. Do

1064
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 5: you get the Sauce Gardner trade? B. Do you have

1065
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 5: this general whatever? I guess, you know, affection that it's

1066
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 5: not the right word, but like that's what we're popping

1067
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 5: in my head for what the first two months of

1068
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 5: the season were that it almost seemed like we could

1069
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 5: have said at Halloween they were all coming back. If

1070
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 5: it was a little bit more balanced, would you have seen,

1071
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 5: you know, such a quick yeah, yes, we're running a

1072
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 5: back and there's no questions asked.

1073
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1074
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: And then obviously you get into the aspect too of

1075
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 1: how much was schedule a factor based on the week

1076
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: teams they played in the beginning, But that's kind of

1077
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: the reality of the NFL, right, You're always going to

1078
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: have that on your schedule. Kevin Bowen joining us Jaba House,

1079
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: Peel and Port guest line. All right, Kevin before we

1080
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: let you go into the college game. Obviously from an

1081
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: Indiana standpoint, you know, we can sit here and talk

1082
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: until probably August about how unbelievable it's been. But let's

1083
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: get down to the brass tacks. Your thoughts on the

1084
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: matchup with Oregon, what you anticipate tonight in the Peach Bowl.

1085
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 5: First, boy, last night was unbelievable.

1086
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, a great game.

1087
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 5: Four times in the last seven minutes of the lead changing.

1088
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, you just don't get that in

1089
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 5: football very very often, let alone on that on that stage,

1090
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 5: and both the quarterbacks, I thought their emotion, you know,

1091
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 5: as the game moved along and in postgame was you know,

1092
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 5: something to watch. You know, as far as tonight is concerned,

1093
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 5: I really like Indiana. I like them with the three

1094
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 5: and a half points. I look back on the first meeting,

1095
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 5: I realized, you know, whatever the stats, beating a team twice,

1096
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 5: they aren't very pro Indiana historically. But you know, they

1097
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 5: also had their most penalized game of the year at Oregon.

1098
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 5: You know, Charlie Becker was not He didn't have a

1099
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 5: catch in that game. So, you know, I think there

1100
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 5: are a lot of elements to Indiana that are better,

1101
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 5: and I mean I continue to harp on this and

1102
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 5: I don't know, you know, if Oregon wins, it'll probably

1103
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 5: be like, wait, did it not matter? But you know,

1104
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 5: when you look at the transfer portal chaos right now

1105
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 5: around college football, the fact that Indiana's coordinators know where

1106
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 5: they're going to be next year, whereas Oregon's coordinators are

1107
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 5: both going to be taking head coaching jobs I believe

1108
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 5: both first time head coaches elsewhere. To me is a

1109
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 5: huge deal. You know, from a preparation standpoint, Let's not

1110
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 5: be naive. If I were whatever Kevin Bowen and I

1111
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 5: were asked to do, you know, one more show on

1112
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 5: our on our station, but then you told me I

1113
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 5: had a new job starting on Monday, and I need

1114
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,439
Speaker 5: to do all this prep work for the new job.

1115
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 5: I'm probably gonna lead lee towards that than you know,

1116
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 5: one more show from seven to ten, and I get,

1117
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 5: you know, winning the national title and all of that.

1118
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 5: There obviously is strong appeal for these coordinators to want

1119
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 5: to continue to call the plays. But I just think

1120
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 5: Indiana from a staff standpoint, is if they needed another

1121
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 5: leg up, which they frankly don't, I think they have

1122
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 5: that so I think, I said this morning twenty four

1123
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 5: to sixteen. I really think as long as they get

1124
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 5: Dante More off his spot, if you will and create

1125
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 5: some of the pressure, then I think they'll be uh,

1126
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 5: they'll be fun.

1127
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1128
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: And Dawn Taymore is a really good player. I mean

1129
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: a big challenge. But I love Indiana's front four. I

1130
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: love him defensively. And I said, Kevin, you would be

1131
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: a fool at this point to snicker at Indiana. You

1132
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I'm done doubting Indiana. That's

1133
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: that's the bottom line. I'm done doubting Indiana.

1134
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 4: All right.

1135
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: Kevin will be along with the guys on Monday discussing

1136
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: it and more seven o'clock in the morning. Kevin, have

1137
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 1: a wonderful weekend, all right, all right.

1138
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 5: Jake Nathaniel, great weekend.

1139
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 4: Guys, appreciate it.

1140
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen joining us the Big ten network. Dave Repson, Dave,

1141
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: we have discussed this before, and I want to appreciate

1142
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: your time. You began your career in Texas. Correct from

1143
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: a television standpoint, I did, Yes, what market were you in?

1144
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 4: I can't recall Sherman Texas. Sherman Sherman.

1145
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, Sherman hotspot.

1146
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 4: Okay.

1147
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: So here's my question. When when Dave Revsen was beginning

1148
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: his television career in Sherman, Texas, which was a more

1149
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: likely scenario for you that you would someday be the

1150
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: face of the Big Ten network, or that as the

1151
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: face of the Big Ten network, you would be talking

1152
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: about a national semi final featuring Big Ten teams Oregon

1153
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: and Indiana playing in football.

1154
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 6: Well, that's such a good question because obviously the Big

1155
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 6: Ten Network didn't exist, so that seemed like a far

1156
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 6: flung idea.

1157
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 4: Neither did Indiana football.

1158
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, Indiana football is just a rumor, and the notion

1159
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 6: of Indiana facing Oregon as conference members, I think, you know,

1160
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 6: the whole thing is.

1161
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 3: A little.

1162
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 4: That's right, Okay, but let's talk about it.

1163
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: You know, this is obviously the second matchup, and I've

1164
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: been talking about this a lot today. But I'm curious,

1165
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: from your standpoint in breaking this down and talking to

1166
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: those members of the Big Ten Network that break down

1167
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: games with you between Oregon and Indiana, which one would

1168
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: you anticipate maybe coming up with more different looks than

1169
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: what we saw in their matchup in Eugene.

1170
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 3: Oh Man, I don't know. It was interesting.

1171
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 6: Signetty kind of talked about this yesterday, right, and he

1172
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 6: kind of said, well, they studied what we did and

1173
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 6: we're going to work on what we did wrong, and

1174
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 6: then we have to anticipate how they might correct for

1175
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 6: what they did wrong. And I just think there is

1176
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 6: a little bit of a cat and mouse game with it.

1177
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 3: Uh.

1178
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 6: You know, if you're Indiana, I mean I would guess

1179
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 6: you staying more with the same approach at least at

1180
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 6: the outset, just because it was successful. But you have

1181
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 6: ways that you can jigg and zad.

1182
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 3: Depending on how the game goes.

1183
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 6: But you know, to me, I like watching back that

1184
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 6: game this week, I mean I thought, in hindsight like

1185
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 6: Indiana was clearly the better team in game one. I mean,

1186
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 6: up front, they really dominated you. I just felt like,

1187
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 6: I don't say more, I mean he technically was pressured,

1188
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 6: I guess on half of his dropbacks, and watching the

1189
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,720
Speaker 6: game back, I mean it felt like more honestly to me,

1190
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 6: I mean Scott it was really hard for him to

1191
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 6: get a clean pocket. So I think, like X and

1192
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 6: O stuff aside, just physically it felt like Indiana was

1193
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 6: the better team. To me in that game, the pick

1194
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 6: six was a huge play that made the game closer

1195
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 6: than I kind of feel like it was in watching

1196
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 6: it back. So I feel like Oregon's got more questions

1197
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 6: to answer than I you does. But if we know

1198
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 6: anything about Kurt Signetti, He's not going to be complacent

1199
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 6: and just rest on the worrels of the first game.

1200
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's part of what.

1201
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 6: Makes him and his staff so great as they uncover

1202
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 6: every single rock.

1203
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 1: You know, and Da obviously here have been focused on

1204
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: the things that Kurt Signetti has been saying, and the

1205
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 1: Indiana approach to it, and that, you know, Charlie Becker's emergence,

1206
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: you know, things that we maybe didn't see at Austin Stadium.

1207
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: But from your perspective in covering it this week, what

1208
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: sort of things has Dan Lanning said about Indiana? There

1209
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: seems to be a great reciprocal respect between these two coaches.

1210
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 6: That's been my sense in listening to both of them,

1211
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 6: that they have a ton of respect for one another.

1212
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 6: I think it's interesting just the disparate paths between the

1213
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 6: two of them. That Kurt Signetti this is his opportunity,

1214
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 6: that he's a college football lifer, and that he bet

1215
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,399
Speaker 6: on himself and all these narratives that we all know about.

1216
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 3: He didn't really get his opportunity until he was in

1217
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 3: his sixties.

1218
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,720
Speaker 6: Dan Lanning is one of the youngest coaches in Power

1219
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 6: conference football. It's not that, you know, he did work

1220
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 6: incredibly hard to get where he is, but his assent

1221
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 6: was just a lot quicker than Signette's.

1222
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 3: And yet even though.

1223
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 6: Their approaches are very different, kind of in the way

1224
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 6: they carry themselves, in their demeanor, I still think like

1225
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 6: there's a lot of similarities. I mean, just kind of

1226
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 6: the belief in the line of scrimmage, the belief in

1227
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 6: playing great defense, the belief in toughness and physicality and

1228
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 6: all those kinds of things. I mean, you know, this

1229
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 6: Oregon team is kind of built differently, I think than

1230
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 6: some of the Oregon teams that were in the national

1231
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 6: spotlight let's say a decade or so ago. And to me,

1232
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 6: that's a huge credit to Dan Lanning. It's a credit

1233
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 6: to Organ's administration as well, kind of understanding that this

1234
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 6: is the way I think that you win in.

1235
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 3: Monto college football. You can have the fun, flashy.

1236
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 6: Offense that both these teams haven't and have a chance

1237
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 6: to put up points. And you know, no team has

1238
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 6: more plays at twenty yards or longer this year than Oregon.

1239
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 6: I mean, there's a lot of stuff that Oregan does

1240
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 6: that is recognizable to those previous teams. But the emphasis

1241
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 6: on the line of scrimmage and playing great defense, that's

1242
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 6: Dan Lanning's thumbprint on this team. And I think Kurtz

1243
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 6: Signetty is pretty similar in terms of what he's done

1244
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 6: with IU.

1245
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 1: Dave Revson is my guest. He's on the Java House

1246
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: Peel and Poor Guest line, of course from the Big

1247
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: Ten Network, Dave in that capacity. And I know that

1248
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: you know Jerry DeNardo is not just your colleague at

1249
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: the Big Ten Network, but you have talked about the

1250
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 1: fact that you know. I think I'm safe in saying

1251
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 1: the two of you have a great friendship as well.

1252
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 4: Right away from work.

1253
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: You know his time at Indiana, and clearly when you

1254
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: look at his coaching record, you know LSU and then

1255
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: the different places that he's coached. He's good football coach.

1256
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: No question has he illuminated to you in any way.

1257
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: Just the remarkable investment that Indiana has made in their

1258
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: football program, taking nothing away from Churt Signetti, but the

1259
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: overall beyond just coaching aspect of all aspects of what

1260
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: this program needed infused that was not there before.

1261
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 6: Okay, So I might be breaking Jerry's confidence here. I

1262
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 6: don't know that he's ever told this story publicly, but

1263
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 6: I'm going to tell it right now that maybe one

1264
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 6: of the best wins in Jerry's career was going on

1265
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 6: to Oregon and winning. They beat the Ducks me neither

1266
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 6: his first year or second year. And he has told

1267
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 6: me a story subsequent to that that all week he

1268
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 6: was playing, he got these loud speakers. He went out

1269
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 6: and rented them, and he got these loudspeakers, and he

1270
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 6: had duck calls going over the loudspeakers, just for something

1271
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 6: fun to do during the week to.

1272
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 3: Fire up the players.

1273
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 6: And later, you know, kind of midweek, late week, one

1274
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 6: of the athletic administrators, who will remain nameless. I don't

1275
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 6: even know the name of the athletic administrator. So it's

1276
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 6: good that he didn't tell me comes out and looks

1277
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 6: at him and says, who's paying for the speakers?

1278
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: And yeah, in I own money, right.

1279
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 3: I mean, he was just you know, flabbergasts, right, it

1280
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 3: was something fun.

1281
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 6: To do, and you know he had I think when

1282
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 6: he took over there, I think he was maybe thirty

1283
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 6: players under the scholarship limit.

1284
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 3: You know, he had a tom if you look back,

1285
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 3: how many.

1286
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 6: Athletic directors and the university presidents and different mission statements

1287
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 6: he had this time there.

1288
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 3: You know, you had no chance.

1289
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 6: I mean you had no chance. There just was not

1290
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 6: the administrative support. And I think that's where I just

1291
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 6: give so much credit to Pam Winten and Scott Dolson,

1292
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 6: Like you know, we can it almost doesn't matter to

1293
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 6: kind of go back and say what it was, but

1294
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 6: that is what it was, and those were the hurdles

1295
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 6: that faced all of these guys who you know, there

1296
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 6: were a lot of really good football coaches there.

1297
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 3: I would count Tom Allen among.

1298
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 6: The really good football coaches, and I think they started

1299
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 6: to invest and started to understand, you know, kind of

1300
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 6: what they needed to do. Scott's leadership has been incredible

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Speaker 6: on this front. But it's it's night and day, and

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Speaker 6: again that takes nothing away from Kurtseygnety. I think Kurtseygnetti

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01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 6: is a generational football coach. He may turn out to

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01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 6: be one of the greatest coaches we've ever seen in

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Speaker 6: the Big Ten, but you need the administrative support, and

1306
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 6: so I just give a ton of credit you for

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01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 6: understanding what they needed to do. I think Scott Golson's

1308
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 6: an incredible ad, but again it starts at the top.

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01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 3: It starts with Pam.

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Speaker 6: Win and it is night and day, you know, again

1311
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 6: curing these stories from Jerry.

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01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 3: It's night and day from what he experienced.

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01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 6: There, and you cannot win without investigating it in this

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01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 6: day and age.

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Speaker 1: And Dave, I've talked about this this week, but I'm

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01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 1: curious your thought because you and I have talked about

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01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: the fact that the first time that you are one

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Speaker 1: of the first times that you had on signetti, and

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01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: you know, you said it was one of your your

1320
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: great moments. It was like you were back in Sherman,

1321
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: Texas when he said, you know, I think we can

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01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: be in the Big Ten championship game and you said

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01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: you want to go on record and he said, I

1324
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:40,480
Speaker 1: just did you know?

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01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 4: I'm on record?

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01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 3: But it was the worst follow up question.

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01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: After well, I've had my fair share doozies, right, but so,

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01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: but here's the question. Then, when that took place, It's

1329
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: like the movie the sixth sense or pulp fiction. Once

1330
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: the movie's over, you look back and you go on,

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01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: Now it makes sense, now I understand it was Kurt

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01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: Signetti with that bravada. Was that what he needed? Did

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01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: he need to come in there because he was walking

1334
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: into a situation like you're talking about, where it was

1335
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: just inherently expected that you couldn't win at Indiana and

1336
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: he had to let everyone know the culture was different

1337
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: the second he arrived.

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Speaker 6: Well, that is what he has said subsequent to all this.

1339
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 6: Jake like when he talked like.

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Speaker 3: I think he in a weird sort of way. It's

1341
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 3: like a.

1342
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 6: Little embarrassed about the basketball game, right, like the clip

1343
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 6: that gets played back all the time about his thoughts

1344
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 6: on produing o'lio state of Michigan. But he feels like

1345
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 6: it just needed to be said. And I think what

1346
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 6: he said on our set same thing. He just felt

1347
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 6: like it needed to be said someone. He needed to

1348
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 6: alert the masses that it wasn't going to be kind

1349
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 6: of business as usual. And so I think at the time,

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Speaker 6: I mean, I like, honestly and I we've said this

1351
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 6: to him, Like he walked off the set and we

1352
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 6: all kind of looked at each other and we're like,

1353
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 6: you know, should someone tell.

1354
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 3: Him like what he's getting into.

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01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 6: And again, like I said, I have so much respector

1356
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 6: for sharing and know the hurdles that he faced, and

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01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 6: I don't think I understood at the time kind of

1358
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 6: how different the commitment was going to be. And I

1359
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 6: just felt like, man, like, I don't see how you're

1360
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 6: going to get this done. You know, it's going to

1361
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 6: be really hard to get to the level that you're

1362
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 6: talking about.

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Speaker 3: So I think at the time I kind of thought, man,

1364
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 3: I don't know about this guy. But in hindsight now

1365
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 3: you understand kind of what.

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Speaker 6: He was trying to do. He was trying to wake

1367
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 6: everyone up. He was trying to tell him it's not

1368
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 6: business as usual.

1369
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Speaker 3: And the things are going to be different here and

1370
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Speaker 3: the only person.

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Speaker 6: Who could communicate that message efficiently was him, And so that's.

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Speaker 3: What he did.

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Speaker 6: And you know, he has an incredible belief in himself,

1374
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 6: an incredible belief in the system that he's put into place,

1375
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 6: and its tested at various stops, and we've come to

1376
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Speaker 6: learn over the last two years that it's a justifiable

1377
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 6: belief because the guy.

1378
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 3: Clearly knows what he's doing. It's an unbelievable coaching job, Dave.

1379
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Speaker 1: For you personally, how much fun is it? I mean, honestly,

1380
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: to be able to not just talk about two Big

1381
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: Ten teams in a national semi final and know that

1382
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Speaker 1: there will be a Big Ten team represented in the

1383
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: national championship game, but also to do it with kind

1384
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,959
Speaker 1: of new blood. Nothing against Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State,

1385
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: They're fabulous schools and programs, but just to have the

1386
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: newer aspect of it and to be able to talk

1387
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: about the Big Ten and its profile, how much fun

1388
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:36,080
Speaker 1: is it?

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Speaker 3: It's been great, Jake.

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Speaker 6: I think this is I mean, the Indiana story is

1391
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 6: the best story that we have covered in our time

1392
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 6: at the Big Ten Network, just because of the unexpecting

1393
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 6: nature of it. I have not as many as you,

1394
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 6: but I have a ton of Indiana fans in my

1395
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 6: very close orbit in my life, and to see just

1396
01:04:55,560 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 6: the unrestrained joy that this has brought to them, it

1397
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 6: is amazing. It's kind of what college athletics can be.

1398
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 6: And and so yeah, this has been a tremendous story.

1399
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 6: And and that whoever wins this game tonight will be

1400
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 6: the third different Big Ten team in as many years.

1401
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 6: To represent the league in the National Championship Game. I

1402
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 6: think that speaks to the depth of the conference and

1403
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 6: to your point again, it's it was wonderful two years

1404
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 6: ago when it was Michigan, it was great last year

1405
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 6: when it was Ohio State. But for it to be

1406
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 6: another Big Ten team and someone different this year, I

1407
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 6: think speaks volumes about where the league is and where

1408
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 6: the commitment is administratively throughout the conference.

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Speaker 1: By the way, in terms of that inner orbit of

1410
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: Indiana fans, you know, am I on the asd I'm

1411
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,280
Speaker 1: kind of on the outer band of the Milky Way?

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01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 4: Is that fair?

1413
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 3: No?

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01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 6: I think you're You're right in the You're the epicenter.

1415
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 6: I mean, just because of the way I Treaszi and

1416
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 6: I mean all the different things we've talked about.

1417
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm the mercury of the Dave ReBs in orbit, right,

1418
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: That's what we're getting that here, if you know what

1419
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,479
Speaker 1: I mean, on the sun of the whole thing. Okay, lastly, Dave,

1420
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: you're looking for what tonight at the outside of the game.

1421
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the obvious answer here is you know, hey,

1422
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 1: which quarterback is going to be able to get in

1423
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: rhythm or whatever else? But is there something that you

1424
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: have been told or to look for for our listeners

1425
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: that is going to tell them that perhaps this game

1426
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: is going to go one way or the other.

1427
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 6: Well, to me, in what again, in watching the game

1428
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 6: back this week and kind of looking at how it

1429
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 6: was played, I think it comes down to a line

1430
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,880
Speaker 6: of scrimmage. I just think Indiana was the far better

1431
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 6: line of scrimmage team in that game. And I'm just

1432
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 6: interested to see, particularly on the offensive line, how Oregon

1433
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 6: protects more and whether or not they can and they

1434
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 6: really weren't able to in the first game.

1435
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 3: And to me, that set up the towne.

1436
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 6: Indiana ran the ball better than Oregon did, they protected better,

1437
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 6: and I think that's why.

1438
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 3: They won the game.

1439
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 6: The other thing is, and you know, I hate to

1440
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 6: say this because I know, you know, Indiana fense like

1441
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 6: don't chase us, but like Indiana does not make mistakes.

1442
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,880
Speaker 4: I know, just it's incredible, right, Like.

1443
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 6: They don't penalties, they don't turn the ball, but they

1444
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 6: haven't lost the fumble since the first game of the year.

1445
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 6: I mean, all of these different things. We saw Oregon

1446
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 6: bouncing snaps back in their last in the Orange Ball.

1447
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, just doing uncharacteristic types of things

1448
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 6: that I you just doesn't do. So if I you

1449
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 6: continues that trend of not making mistakes, no special team's gaess,

1450
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 6: no turnovers, all of those different things, no penalties, I

1451
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 6: feel like they win the game. I just think that

1452
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 6: I think they would have to play an uncharacteristic game

1453
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 6: to lose.

1454
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: Dave, I know you guys have all of it covered

1455
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: in the Big Ten Network. I know it's busy with

1456
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 1: two teams in the Peach Bowl National semi finals, so

1457
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 1: I very much appreciate the time, enjoy the game, enjoy

1458
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: the coverage, and we perhaps will be talking to you

1459
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: before Miami if Indiana's in there.

1460
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 4: But I appreciate it all right, Jay, thanks man.

1461
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 3: Great to talk to you.

1462
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,919
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure. Dave Revsen joining us from the Big

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Speaker 1: Ten Network