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Speaker 1: us on this Wednesday morning. Happy hump day to you.

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Speaker 1: Later sixties activist to William Maccassa Ricks, who march with

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Speaker 1: doctor King and Stokely Carmichael. Back then he was Stokely Carmichael.

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Speaker 1: Many of you know him now was Kwame Terray. Well,

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Speaker 1: he'll issue his report on the abduction of Dick alas

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Speaker 1: Maduro from Venezuela. But before we hear from Macassa Ricks,

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Speaker 1: the Faith Brothers will join us. Before the Faith Brothers,

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Speaker 1: so we'll revisit the Altadena wildfires through the eyes of

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Speaker 1: one of the survivors of that place, Rochelle Jones. But

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Speaker 1: to get us starting moment and tell her when to

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Speaker 1: speak with Baltimore activists Kim Poole. But first it's Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Let's get Kevin to reopen the classroom doors. Grand Rising, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Grand Rising, Carl Nelson, My man, how you feeling.

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Speaker 1: I'm still learning, Kevin, I'm learning stuff every single day.

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Speaker 1: I'm still learning.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, be consistent of your non existent what

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Speaker 1: I like that seventh of.

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Speaker 2: January, seventh day of a brand new year, and so

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Speaker 2: much is going on oh Man, tell me, well, first,

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Speaker 2: after the LA fires, the false narratives on social media

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Speaker 2: impacted state policy. So this article on CNN talks about

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Speaker 2: a young man who is a musician and caretaker for

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Speaker 2: his disabled parents, and they've moved five times, not wanting

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Speaker 2: to over the state there welcome with friends, and so

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Speaker 2: he says, some people on social media try to minimize

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Speaker 2: the pain of fire survivors, and he said, quote people

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Speaker 2: what it feels like to be homeless. So tell us

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Speaker 2: about that. You've spoken with many of our friends out

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Speaker 2: there who have affected it, including Faster Kirwin, who's coming

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Yeah, well, for yeah, we're also

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Speaker 1: I think if you haven't apt to move, you understand

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Speaker 1: what it's like, you know, Kevin moving from one apartment

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Speaker 1: going on if these corporations. There's a word out in

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Speaker 1: many of the corporations that buying up those empty lots

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Speaker 1: But it is, it is just interesting. The only way

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Speaker 2: You're right, right, And social media has no consciousness, seems

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Speaker 2: And this article goes on to say thirty one, people

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Speaker 2: died in the fires in Palisades and Altadena neighborhoods roughly

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Speaker 2: Senate Bill five point forty nine, says Julius Stein, Deputy

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Speaker 1: What do you think? What is that about this whole

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Speaker 2: Well, we've got to keep our eyes on that, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's about to get going down because you know,

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Speaker 1: And here's the part, Kevin, here's the part. Now, who's

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Speaker 1: It doesn't it Well, Congress has basically been rubber stamping

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Speaker 1: So the country is just in the political landscape is

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Speaker 2: Well, finally we've got Kim Poole standing by, and so

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Speaker 2: remember yesterday's anniversary. They're rewriting the January sixth history and

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Speaker 2: the season. I mean, you can't win them all, right, And.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the way it is. On the seventh of January,

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Speaker 2: twelve past six and take it away.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for your time, all right, thirty you having top

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Speaker 1: Kim Poole, Let's stay in Baltimore, charm City, Grand Rising, Kim,

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Speaker 3: Program, Grand Rising Carl. It's always a pleasure. I really,

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Speaker 3: I always feel like I'm back home. We travel a

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Speaker 3: lot our organization and even personally. This year, we had

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Speaker 3: a lot of opportunities. But coming back on the show,

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Speaker 3: it's like, while we are home, it's time for the update.

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Speaker 3: It's time to give the oh wow, the global report

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because we travel with you vicariously, Kim. So, but

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Speaker 3: So we actually just got back. Our schedule is out

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Speaker 1: understand what you were saying, especially when you were singing.

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, they speak English, they pray in Arabic. I mean

433
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Speaker 3: they also speak Somali. Really important to understand that when

434
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Speaker 3: we say Somaliya or Somali Land, they're still all Somali

435
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Speaker 3: people and they have their own language, the Somali language,

436
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Speaker 3: and they're different varieties of it. And now that I'm

437
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Speaker 3: working in the capacity with AKALON, the African Union, African

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Speaker 3: Academy of languages This coming February February twenty first through

439
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Speaker 3: the twenty eighth, I'll be hosting, i would say, a

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Speaker 3: Global African or a diaspor a wide week of African languages.

441
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Speaker 3: And so we're gonna invite we've already in fact invited

442
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Speaker 3: their minister from Foreign Affairs that's focused on the diaspora

443
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Speaker 3: to come and talk about their language and talk about

444
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Speaker 3: how they're using it as a tool to begin to

445
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Speaker 3: connect to the historic diaspora like us, because they're people

446
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Speaker 3: that still read, write, and speak their own indigenous African.

447
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Speaker 4: Language, so they're really trilingual.

448
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Speaker 3: They speak English because they were colonized by the British,

449
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Speaker 3: but they were emancipated June twenty sixth, nineteen sixty two

450
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Speaker 3: or nineteen sixty. And when you think about June twenty sixth,

451
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Speaker 3: nineteen sixty that's really earlier than many of the other

452
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Speaker 3: regions across Africa, even Kenya right next door. They found

453
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Speaker 3: their independence in nineteen sixty, even before Somalia, which didn't

454
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Speaker 3: receive their independence for another five days. When you do

455
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Speaker 3: your history, July first, nineteen sixty they decided they willingly.

456
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Speaker 3: It wasn't a forced or coersed Union with Somalia in

457
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Speaker 3: the beginning, Like you have some regions in Africa, like

458
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Speaker 3: Cameroon where the anglophone speakers, those that spoke English in Cameroon,

459
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Speaker 3: they were forced to either join Nigeria in Bamanda, uh

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Speaker 3: you know, or you know in Boya in the south,

461
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Speaker 3: or they were forced to join the rest of what

462
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Speaker 3: is now known as Cameroon, and they chose the Francophone Cameroon. H.

463
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Speaker 3: But now they're at war today, the Abozonians, they have

464
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Speaker 3: their civil wars that still haven't begun. And really it's

465
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Speaker 3: about the hegemony of the English language and the Francophone

466
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Speaker 3: language that has basically undervalued their local languages.

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Speaker 1: And as a result saying that, yeah, let me just

468
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Speaker 1: chip in on a second here, that is so disappointing.

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Speaker 1: African country fighting over to colonized languages. Whether if you

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Speaker 1: speak French or I'm talking about the Cameroon now, or

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Speaker 1: you speak English at the expensive, they're their own, their

472
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Speaker 1: own tribal languages. But go ahead, I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: point that out. Still there, Kim, we lost Kim. Hopefully

474
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Speaker 1: we have a lost Kim. Twenty seven minutes away from

475
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Speaker 1: the top of the Our family is just taking into Kevin. See,

476
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get Kim back is This is a fascinating

477
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Speaker 1: story she's shared with us this morning. She's just back

478
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Speaker 1: from Kenya and Somaliland. By the way, Smiley Land is

479
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Speaker 1: not totally recognized by the rest of the world. That

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Speaker 1: she mentioned that the Israel just decided to recognize Somaliland.

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Speaker 1: I think earlier this month they decided to do that,

482
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Speaker 1: and some people are wondering it's got there. It's a

483
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Speaker 1: head scratcher for some folks. Why Israel all of a

484
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Speaker 1: sudden is recognizing Smaliland and many countries in the world

485
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Speaker 1: don't recognize it because there's still some territory that's been disputed.

486
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Speaker 1: But who controls Rotten? Who controlled the other? As I mentioned,

487
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Speaker 1: it's it's located in the corner in the Horn of Africa.

488
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Speaker 1: That's right at the corner there between Djibouti and also

489
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Speaker 1: Ethiopia and Djibuti. There's a large air base there, US

490
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Speaker 1: air base. They in Jibouti watching over all of what's

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Speaker 1: going on in the Arab world. But but Kim again,

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Speaker 1: before I let that, I don't know how much of

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Speaker 1: it you heard. I was saying that Uh in the camera,

494
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Speaker 1: and you've got the former British colonizers fighting the former

495
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Speaker 1: French colonizers. So these fact Frohn and the British arguing

496
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Speaker 1: over which language is better, which which slave master is better,

497
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Speaker 1: and they're fighting over at the expensive of their own

498
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Speaker 1: language that they have their own tribal language. But I'll

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Speaker 1: let you pick up the story. I'm sorry for interrupting you,

500
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Speaker 1: but I just thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, yeah, no, I mean it is deeper

502
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Speaker 3: than that, but it helps. Cameroon is a case study

503
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Speaker 3: to help us understand how language defines reality. It shapes

504
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Speaker 3: your environment because you're now looking at the English form

505
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Speaker 3: of law versus the French form of law, and you're

506
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Speaker 3: looking at the English form of education. You know, all

507
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: of this comes out of language. And so when you're

508
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: also English is the language of business, and they say

509
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Speaker 3: French is a romantis over romance etasized language that has

510
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Speaker 3: no value in you know, business, and that the French

511
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 3: are holding on for dear life. And it starts with

512
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Speaker 3: how they socialize their colonies because they still have colonies.

513
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: Because their currency or the sifa, the cfa, uh, you

514
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 3: know that that currency is still being used in African countries,

515
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: and so they're using that with intention, and it starts

516
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Speaker 3: with the introduction of the language. Because language is how

517
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: you trade, it's how you connect, and so it's language

518
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 3: is only the found it's not only the foundation. It

519
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 3: is the foundation, and sometimes we see it as harmless.

520
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Speaker 3: But Cameroon is an example of how. And so when

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Speaker 3: I do that as a comparative analysis with Somali land

522
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Speaker 3: and being there, they still speak and write in their

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Speaker 3: own language. And for me, remember Carl, that's one of

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Speaker 3: the ways that I begin to assess the sovereignty and

525
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Speaker 3: the autonomy of a people is whether or not they're

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Speaker 3: able to speak their own language. When I go into

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Speaker 3: Tanzania and I talk about the young people, they are

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Speaker 3: the pride that they have. It's different from some of

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Speaker 3: the other countries I go into, where their first language

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Speaker 3: for their country is a colonizer's language. And those young

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Speaker 3: people in Tanzania, they may want to trade with you,

532
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Speaker 3: they may want to figure out how to do business

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Speaker 3: with you, but they're not getting on buses by the

534
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Speaker 3: busload trying to come to America. That's not the first

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Speaker 3: conversation they want to have. They believe in the potential

536
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Speaker 3: now granted this year with you know Samiyah, we won't

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Speaker 3: get on her our mama President. In Tanzania, there have

538
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Speaker 3: been some issues, but historically they come from great stocks,

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Speaker 3: you know. And when I think about a lot of

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Speaker 3: their pride and autonomy, it started with their language, their

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Speaker 3: ability to speak Swahili as their first language. And when

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Speaker 3: I found that in Somali Land that they're still speaking

543
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Speaker 3: forms of Somali, they're still writing in it, they're still

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Speaker 3: doing business in it. Even at the Somali Land Expo

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Speaker 3: for Minerals and Energy, the Minister of Foreign Affairs and

546
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Speaker 3: the Minister of Minds, he spoke in the Somali language.

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Speaker 3: I had never experienced that. I'm so used to their

548
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Speaker 3: being first English or first French or first Portuguese and

549
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Speaker 3: then translation, but that being the primary language. But he

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Speaker 3: immediately addressed us in a Somali dialect, a Somali language,

551
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Speaker 3: and that kind of power means that I don't need you,

552
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Speaker 3: I want to partner with I hold, I thought.

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Speaker 1: Right, there, can I let you explain that further? Well,

554
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 1: we got to step asut and get caught up within

555
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Speaker 1: local news, trafficking weather in that different cities. Family just

556
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Speaker 1: waking up Kim Poolish I guess she's just back from

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Speaker 1: Kenya some Aliland. She's reporting on her trips. What are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts You got questions about her journey, reach out

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Speaker 1: to us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy

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Speaker 1: eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls after

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Speaker 1: the news that's next and Grand Rising family. Thanks of

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Speaker 1: waking up with us on this Wednesday morning. Happy hump

563
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Speaker 1: Day to U. Sixteen minutes away from the top of

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Speaker 1: that with that guest the king Pools. She's just back

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Speaker 1: from another journey to the continent. She stopped off and

566
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Speaker 1: Kenya and Tomar Island and she's finding her report for us.

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Speaker 1: As mentioned earlier, we traveled with her vicariously on these trips.

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Speaker 1: Before we go back to her there, let me just

569
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Speaker 1: remind you come up later this morning, we're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: from sixty civil rights activists, Brother William maccassa Rix. Also,

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Speaker 1: before we talk to Willi Rix, the Faith Brothers will

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Speaker 1: be here. But before we speak with the Faith Brothers,

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Speaker 1: were gonna speak with one of the survivors of the

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Speaker 1: Altadena fires. That'd be Sister Rochelle Jones. And tomorrow futuristic researcher,

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Speaker 1: Brother Sidneka McCarry will be here. So if you are

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore, and make sure you keep you readily locked

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Speaker 1: and tight on ten ten WLB, or if you're in

578
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Speaker 1: the DMV family, are on fourteen fifteen WL. All right, sister,

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Speaker 1: came on, I'll let you finish telling us about what happened.

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Speaker 1: Because you talked about languages. Let me just add this

581
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Speaker 1: real quickly. The late doctor Khalid al Monsou always used

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Speaker 1: to say that language is the cornerstone of our culture.

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Speaker 1: He wishes that we could have Black people throughout the

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Speaker 1: diaspora could have a language that all of us understand

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Speaker 1: and speak and other folks couldn't understand. He says, that's

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Speaker 1: one of the things the Haitians have with these They

587
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Speaker 1: got their creole language. They could talk about everybody else,

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Speaker 1: but if you don't understand Creole, you know what they're saying.

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Speaker 1: So we should have that as black people. Every other

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Speaker 1: group has their own language, but we as a group

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Speaker 1: of Black or African people, and where you want to

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Speaker 1: describe it if you're black African, if you don't, that's

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Speaker 1: another discussion. But we should have our own language. But

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Speaker 1: go ahead, and finish your report.

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Speaker 3: Kim, Well, it's interesting that you would say that, because

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Speaker 3: we actually do. When I think about our organization teaching

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Speaker 3: Artists Institute, one of my beloved elders, Mama ide O Lomo,

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Speaker 3: she is what you would call Gallagikshi, and she speaks Tut.

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Speaker 3: Tut is one of the languages that were Creole. Like

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Speaker 3: we're all Creole, and so when I think about Creole

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Speaker 3: in a ETI how that is their official name for

602
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Speaker 3: their official language. We have many Creole or dialects, and

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Speaker 3: so Tut is one of the names of it. And

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00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 3: they mapped it to say John's and I can't think

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Speaker 3: of his name now, but he was studying languages and

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Speaker 3: he has recordings of how the language was spoken this

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Speaker 3: Tut on the sea islands in the Carolinas and so

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Speaker 3: as far up you know, as wow, oh god, I'm

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Speaker 3: losing my train of thought, but all throughout the Gullageechee

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Speaker 3: Corridor there are recordings of the Tut language spoken, and

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's our language. I don't speak any

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Speaker 3: of it, but I think it's time for us to

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Speaker 3: also respect our dialects. You know, I can remember my

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Speaker 3: mother putting on her telephone voice, right, So we we

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Speaker 3: speak the language that's in the house. Our dialects and

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Speaker 3: our accents matter, they're not broken. And then we understand

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Speaker 3: how to speak what I would say, the King's English,

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Speaker 3: and so I respect that and I've learned you over

619
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Speaker 3: the years. But also Swahili. You know Swahili ki Swahili.

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Speaker 3: We use it during Quansa. We had an incredible Kwanza

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Speaker 3: this year where I started a tradition in my own family.

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Speaker 3: It's like, how do you go all over the world

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Speaker 3: and celebrating cultures in African origins of civilization and your

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Speaker 3: own family is unaware. Well, fifteen years ago I said,

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Speaker 3: every other year, no matter where I am in the world,

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Speaker 3: I'll be right here at home celebrating Kwansa with my

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Speaker 3: own family. And we speak Swahili to each other, even

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Speaker 3: if only during Quanta, and those seeds matter for my

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Speaker 3: nieces and my nephews. And so I want to say

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Speaker 3: that Swahili is our language. Touch is our language. And

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Speaker 3: we're going to be talking about that during African Language

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Speaker 3: this week, which AKALON again the African Academy of African Languages.

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Speaker 3: Now I represent them in the diaspora and that's the

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Speaker 3: whole diasphor not just here on Turtle Island, but in

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Speaker 3: Europe and then Caracom countries of the Caribbean, etc. And

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Speaker 3: so we're going to have an incredible week of activities.

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Speaker 3: And so I know old people are only on Facebook,

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Speaker 3: so we're hoping that the website for Aklon for the

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00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: African Union is also going to publish our activities, but

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Speaker 3: February twenty first through the twenty eighth. Because you're so

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Speaker 3: right about language being our cornerstone and the language that

642
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 3: we speak ourselves to ourselves, Ozzie Davis said, the English

643
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: language is my enemy, but we have reclaimed that in

644
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: our generation and we have defined for ourselves. And so

645
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 3: I love when young people come to me and tell

646
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 3: me that they've created another word. It's their sense of

647
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 3: autonomy being asserted.

648
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 5: And it's beautiful.

649
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: Got you turn away from the top. Bob's checking in

650
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: from Buffalo. He wants to speak of this online. One

651
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: grand rise and Bobby on with Kim Poole.

652
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Speaker 6: Yes, blessed love, blessed love, sister Kim, thank you very

653
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 6: much for all you do. And just really quickly, we

654
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 6: don't speak English, we speak American and if you go

655
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 6: to England you find out you don't speak English, you

656
00:36:54,840 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 6: speak American. Yes, I just want to say, and they.

657
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Speaker 1: Quick to remind you about that as well, Bob.

658
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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, And I just want to say, just to

659
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 6: remind you, I welcomed you to the Corridor, the Black Corridor,

660
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 6: the African Heritage Corridor here in Buffalo, playing drums for you,

661
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 6: and I got a chance to hang out with you

662
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 6: and his sister Aana Gregory, and I got a chance

663
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 6: to share a song with you as you were leaving Buffalo,

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00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 6: and when they want to share a lot of love

665
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 6: and respect and honor and well wishes to you as

666
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 6: you go through your travels. You teach us so much

667
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 6: when you come on the radio. I learned something every time.

668
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 6: And I want to remind you of the song. The

669
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 6: basic theme was working together works if you'll hope you

670
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 6: remember it. And I wish you well and thank you

671
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 6: that you do with the teaching artist. Sensitive brother Kamal

672
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 6: piece and blessedness, sister, stay strong, stay beautiful, stay blessed.

673
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: Wow, how refreshing Buffalo, Black Buffalo. I'm definitely a Buffalo soldier.

674
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: I can't wait to get back up there. Not right now,

675
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 3: because I know it's awful cold up there right now.

676
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: But I'm certainly interested, and it's also important, yes, and

677
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: it's also important that we start to take Black Buffalo

678
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 3: and all of these pockets of the diaspora to the continent.

679
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 3: Let's figure out how to start bringing We have so

680
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 3: many things that are happening in Kenya and Somaliland on

681
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 3: the calendar this year, a lot of people were wondering, well,

682
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 3: what were they doing for thirty four years to be

683
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 3: at peace? Because when we think of Somalia, we think

684
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 3: of war, we think of terra, and so how is

685
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 3: it that you know, this region that's right above has

686
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 3: been at peace with no war. You know, there aren't

687
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 3: any soldiers walking around with M sixteen rifles and you

688
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 3: don't feel this sense of threat, or there were no

689
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: night checks where like, for example, if you in Ghana

690
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: and you're driving on the road, there are police officers

691
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 3: after a certain time at night where they look into

692
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 3: your window and they're checking. When we were driving at

693
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 3: night in Hargeisa, there weren't any officers on the road

694
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 3: checking us. So I did. I was looking at that

695
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: and saying, these people truly have been at peace for

696
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 3: thirty four years. And so how did they do it?

697
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 3: And I'll tell you it was because of the culture.

698
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: It was because of their connection to culture. We're going

699
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: there again three times this year and one of the

700
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: first stops is going to be the largest international books

701
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 3: there for authors of African descent that they've been hosting

702
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 3: for twenty three years. When they said that they were

703
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 3: building from ground up, one of the first things they

704
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 3: started to build was a class of artists and writers.

705
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 3: We went to the Adodo Wa where they're teaching the

706
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 3: young people how to learn the traditional dances. I guess

707
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 3: it's like an Arab influence or I would say desert

708
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 3: influenced area. So the camel, the camel is very influential

709
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 3: in their culture. They drink camel milk. I wasn't necessarily

710
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: interested in doing that, but they eat camel keys and

711
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 3: they carved wooden bells. But the camel is such a

712
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 3: majestic creature. If you don't know about the you know

713
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 3: the sense of royalty. They're so humble the camel. They

714
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 3: said that when a camel is being executed, that it

715
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 3: doesn't fight back, it doesn't whimper, It just kneels on

716
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 3: its front knees and it just lowers its head for

717
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 3: you to chop it off. And I said, the kind

718
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: of humility from an animal that would do that, how

719
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 3: could you ever kill it? But they do and they

720
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: eat camel meat. And so their culture, that is what

721
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: really sustained them over thirty four years of peace. And

722
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 3: how important it is for us to know what our

723
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 3: culture is and to begin to define for ourselves language.

724
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: You know, we're in January, and how we just adopt

725
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 3: the Gregorian calendar and we adopt these things and we

726
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 3: don't act. Why is it name that we need to

727
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: begin to define for ourselves, to begin to think about

728
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 3: time and space and you know, geography, all these things

729
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: for ourselves. And so the borders that they're giving, you know,

730
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 3: this is where Somalia ends and where Somali Land begins,

731
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 3: this is where Kenya ends and where you know, all

732
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: of these borders were given to us out of the

733
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: Berlin Conference and this division of Africa, and really the

734
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 3: world has never served global African people. And so when

735
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 3: we think about culture, it gives us the power and

736
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: autonomy to define for ourselves our space, our time. And

737
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: in Somaliland they've done that and so the International Book

738
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 3: Festival is happening at the end of July, and we're

739
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 3: actually going to be invited, and we're looking for authors

740
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: that want to come. Not just experienced authors you can

741
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 3: come to, but new authors that maybe want to launch

742
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 3: their books want to launch their books at the festival,

743
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 3: and they have resources to help cover on ground experiences.

744
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: And so even though we sustain ourselves as an organization

745
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 3: through tourism, it's always nice when we're able to offer

746
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 3: an opportunity to the people at a better rate because

747
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 3: the local government has invited us, the local festivals have

748
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 3: invited us, and so that's an opportunity for you to

749
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Speaker 3: not take my word for it, see the thirty four

750
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 3: years of Peace for yourself. You can come with our organization.

751
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: We've also partnered with them to host our summer learning Institute.

752
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: We do this usually in Tanzania where we partner with

753
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 3: universities and we offer art as a tool for social transformation.

754
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: We show you how it shows up in other sectors,

755
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 3: and we give you a certification that you can use

756
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 3: and your continuing editation for social workers or counselors, or

757
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 3: for students in college a three credit course or just families.

758
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 3: They understand that learning is a lifelong process, and this

759
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: year we're doing that in Somaliland as well, and we're

760
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 3: going to do it right before the International Festival Book Festival.

761
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 3: So if you want to come for the Summer Learning Institute,

762
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 3: you can stay after for the festival and do both.

763
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: Then we'll be back again later in the summer for

764
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: the diaspora. I was so impressed. They have an entire

765
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 3: office for the diaspora already, and they already going into

766
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 3: the Netherlands where there's a large Somaliland population, and they're

767
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 3: doing events and exchanges. They're already going into Italy where

768
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 3: there's another large Somaliland population. I mean, just a whole

769
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: new world of diaspora that are looking to work with

770
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 3: us and partner with us, not only in Somali Land,

771
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 3: but in the diaspora where we're based right here at

772
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 3: home too. And so that was powerful to me. So,

773
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 3: Bob from Black Buffalo, let's start doing the work not

774
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 3: only is Somali Land, but right here in the Divided

775
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: States and Turtle Island, where there's so many Somali people

776
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: that want to have these discussions.

777
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, well, Hold, I thought right there because

778
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: we've got to get caught up with the traffic and

779
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: weather in a different cities. But before when we come back, though, Kim,

780
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: let me ask you this personal question. Sometimes you have

781
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: to pinch yourself and see you how far you've come

782
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: from just a little girl in Baltimore and here you

783
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 1: are with the now heads of states and you they

784
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: know they know you. It's not just they know you.

785
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: They know your name been all about you, isn't it?

786
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes you go, wow, is this really me? Let you

787
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: respond to that. When we get back, family, you two

788
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: can join our conversation with Kim. Pull just back from

789
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: Somaliland and Kenya. Reach out to us at eight hundred

790
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six, and we

791
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 1: won't take a phone calls after we check the traffic

792
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: and weather and at different cities. That's next.

793
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, y'all, now we're doing summer learning institute in

794
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: Somali land. I already have folks at home that can

795
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: speak to what that is, and you need those relationships.

796
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 3: It's the relationship that reminds you of what home is

797
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 3: and that keeps home relevant for you, that gives you

798
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: a sense of self and so We'll always continue to

799
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 3: work right here on the home front. And this year

800
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 3: we have big plans for our teaching artists, institute artists

801
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 3: and residents in Park Heights. We're renovating the basement right

802
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: now in the backyard. We're going to be having an

803
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 3: open house this summer as well, whether it be before

804
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 3: we get on the plane to Somali Land or when

805
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: we come back, but we're definitely going to have that

806
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 3: cookout open house over in Park Heights in our tie

807
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 3: air our teaching artists, artists and residents. And we're absolutely

808
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 3: going to have our underground railroad camping excursion for our

809
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 3: young people on the Eastern Shore. These initiatives matter, None

810
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 3: of them matter if we're not able to teach them

811
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 3: to the young people right here in our own backyard.

812
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: All right, before we let you go, Kim, how can

813
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: folks get in touch of you if they want to

814
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: travel via to Kenya later this year or anywhere as

815
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: you go in you're probably going to going to the

816
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: south as well taking to young people. So how can

817
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: folks read.

818
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: You if they want to contact us? Please the phone

819
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 3: by the bed four four three seven three nine zero

820
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: nine four one. You know you got to send a text.

821
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 3: Those bill collectors are calling, so text me four four

822
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 3: three seven three nine zero nine four one. You can

823
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: also always send us an email. Tie dot Tie towards

824
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: at gmail dot com, Tie towards dot org at gmail

825
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 3: dot com. And if you're old enough to still be

826
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 3: on Facebook, please like us on Facebook. If you've ever

827
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: heard us speak, you know that we care about engagement

828
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: and social media is the best way to do that.

829
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: Facebook dot com, Slash teaching artists like us share our work.

830
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 3: It's low hanging fruit and we appreciate it so much.

831
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 3: Culture is the new currency. And when we talk about self,

832
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 3: we're talking about you. You are a part of us.

833
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: Please share our work and help us get the word out.

834
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 5: Thanks Carl, all right, Thank you.

835
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: Kim, and thank you for what you do representing us

836
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: on the continent. Thank you, sister, for all that you

837
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: do for us. All right, family, that's Kim Poole from Baltimore.

838
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: Let's turn our attention now to this is the anniversary

839
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: of the wildfires out in California, Altadena and palsas Pacific

840
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: Palaces and join us right now. His sister, Rochelle Jones,

841
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: Grand Rising, Rochelle, Welcome back to the program.

842
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 7: Good morning, Carl, Thank you for having me. How are you?

843
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: I'm great. Thank you for waking up with us out

844
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: there on the West coast. Rochelle. But you guys went

845
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: through this horrific fire a year ago today, I guess

846
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: it all started. Do you remember where you were when

847
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: you first heard the news about the fire?

848
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 7: Yes, I do. I was at I was in the

849
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 7: city of Morovia, where I have an apartment at as.

850
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 7: I was calling my dad to see where he was at,

851
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 7: and he was at home, sitting there like nothing was

852
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 7: going on because he never had any.

853
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: Hopefully we haven't lost of Rochelle, Kevin Casie, if you

854
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: can get her back for us. Hooper phones are working great.

855
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: You know they went through a lot out there and

856
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: out yeah there you are, go ahead.

857
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, he never got any notifications or anything, uh, stating

858
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 7: that the fire was even anywhere near him. So he

859
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 7: was home and I was away. But the wind was

860
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 7: blowing and it was just like a windstorm out of

861
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 7: this world. It was. It was some crazy stuff that day.

862
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: Can you share with us the family, because you know

863
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: you lived through that. It's been a year since that happened.

864
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: But before we go back to you know what transformed

865
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: over that those twelve months. What was he like when

866
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: when you you heard about the fire shaw it on TV?

867
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean you actually went and so your dad's home

868
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: and what was left of it, I should say, or

869
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: the other homes that were destroyed.

870
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 7: Yes, it was. It was devastating in my years, I've

871
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 7: never seen anything happen like that before in my life.

872
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 7: It was just kind of just like laying on a

873
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 7: couch playing it by a ear, not really knowing what

874
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 7: was going on. Family is being displaced and not knowing

875
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 7: if your house is still standing. Then you get up

876
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 7: and say, you know what, I'm gonna go check it out.

877
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 7: And then when you do, it's like a war like

878
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 7: a like a war scene. Like it was just really

879
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 7: really really really bad devastating.

880
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really hard to describe to the listeners. So

881
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: what was like that the entire community was levels and

882
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: there were other homes that were not touched the fire

883
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: hops kitchen and moved around.

884
00:49:58,960 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 4: How do you yeah?

885
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 7: Because up that yeah, on our block, every almost every

886
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 7: single house got hit, but there's one house that did

887
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 7: not get hit at all. And then like on the

888
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 7: way up to our house is just like hitting mists.

889
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 7: It's almost like they did any mini money mod It

890
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 7: just was really really I just really have no words

891
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 7: to what happened on that day and how it happened.

892
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: So on that day were people neighbors calling you and

893
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: telling you how what was he like? I'm trying to

894
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 1: figure out what was like? What would I have done

895
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: if I lived in out a dinner when those fires

896
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: were coming? What was the first thing you grab?

897
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 7: What?

898
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: What's the first thing you look for?

899
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 7: Well, the neighbors were kind of like calling, and because

900
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 7: we lived so close to the mountain, nobody was getting

901
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 7: any real service up there. So they did congregate outside

902
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 7: and they looked over the mountain peak and say, yeah,

903
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 7: you know what, it's time for us to go. And

904
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 7: it's always fires in eating cane, but they've never hopped

905
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 7: out the can. And the winds that we had, we

906
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 7: never seen nothing like that in our lives there. So

907
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 7: it was very dark, the wind was blowing, the wind

908
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 7: was howling. It was just something that you just can't

909
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 7: even really put into words. And my father was able

910
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 7: to grab a few things, but nobody expected emergency of

911
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 7: that type of sword. So he did grab two or

912
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 7: three things to wear, he grabbed some paper, some important documents,

913
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 7: and that's it, Carl. Because he thought he was going

914
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 7: to be able to come home. He left with just

915
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 7: the clothes on his back and the two or three

916
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 7: outfits and maybe a pair of shoes. I don't think

917
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,479
Speaker 7: nobody thought that it was going to be as bad

918
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 7: as it was.

919
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirteen minutes after the top of our family Rochelle Jones,

920
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: one of the survivors and the family of the Altadena

921
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: fires that we were out there last year. This is

922
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: the anniversary of those fires. You'll see all of this

923
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: something used today. They'll do retrospect of what happened. But

924
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: I recalled, you know, met one brother out there, and

925
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 1: he told me because as you mentioned, there always fires

926
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: out there in the canyon, but never usually jumps over

927
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: into altad You know, we've got to tell the family

928
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: that Altadena has a rich history of black families there

929
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: for generations own their homes in Altadena. Beautiful place. And

930
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: this back to this brother. Though, this brother told me

931
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: he was going to the store. He saw the fires,

932
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: so you know that fires all the time, like you mentioned,

933
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: So he figured nothing out, so he went to the store.

934
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: When he came back his house was gone. I hate

935
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: to chuck about it because he was in tears when

936
00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: he was telling me. We're standing in front of his

937
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 1: house shell and almost that was a fence and the

938
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: refrigerator and he had a fireplace, and the fireplace stood up,

939
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: but everything was ash. Everything was this gray ash and

940
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: who could see that for blocks? So it was you're right,

941
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: he sort of caught a lot of people off guard.

942
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: What are people saying today though about the fire?

943
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 7: You know, people still have mix mixed emotions about what

944
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 7: happened that day. We have people who are still saying

945
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 7: that somebody did this to the community ab out Tadena.

946
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 7: We still have people who just still don't know what

947
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 7: may have really occurred that day. And there's just people

948
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 7: who just are trying to fight through what went on

949
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 7: and just accepting the fact that it happened and trying

950
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 7: to rebuild and not only rebuild, but helping their names

951
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 7: rebuild and stay strong and keep the hope of out

952
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 7: Sadena being real rebuilded alive because we still don't know

953
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 7: what happened that day.

954
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: Now, you say, folks, people, what's the consensus you're getting

955
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: from your neighbors? Are they rebuilding? Are they're selling out

956
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: and moving out. What are you hearing.

957
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 7: Our neighbors are rebuilding? Luckily, there are rebuilding, and there's

958
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 7: a lot of people. Like I said, we've been in

959
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 7: our Sadena for years. I'm forty three, and my dad's

960
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 7: been there. He's, you know, in his sixties. They've we've

961
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 7: been there fifty years plus, so everybody kind of knows

962
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 7: each other. Unfortunately, there are people who want to rebuild,

963
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 7: but they can't rebuild. It's a lot of carl I'm

964
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 7: not really sure if a lot of people will be

965
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 7: able to rebuild, and if they are, I don't think

966
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 7: that Alta Dina will ever be the same in some

967
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 7: sense that makes sense.

968
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. Sixteen half the top. They will come

969
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 1: around a break wherever, I guess the Rochelle Jones Rochelle

970
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: is one of the survivors and her family for the

971
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: Alta Dina fires who were out there and saw that

972
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: it was devastating. And this is as I mentioned, the anniversary,

973
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: So you for the year and when we come back

974
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: from the break, just tell us what it's like. What's

975
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: your journey been like after there with your family? Where

976
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: did you guys move to? Did you find a spot.

977
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: Do you have a new home or you're back in

978
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: Alta Dina or have you been going through from motels

979
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: to hotels or you've been surfing our unfriends couches. Fill

980
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: us in and all that story when we get back.

981
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: Family YouTube can join our discussion with Rochelle Jones. As

982
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: I mentioned, she's one of the survivors if the Alta

983
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: Dina fires out in California. What are your thoughts? You

984
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: can reach us an eight hundred four or five zero

985
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls.

986
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: Next and Grand Rising family, thanks for starting your day

987
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: with us this Wednesday, Happy hump Day. Twenty one minutes

988
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: after the top of they out with our guests, the

989
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: Rochelle Jones. Rochelle's one of the survivors and her family

990
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: the Altadena fires. You know, we're out there and this

991
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,479
Speaker 1: is the anniversary of those fires. We're out there after

992
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: the fires and they had to look at the place.

993
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 1: I was devastating to see what happened. And so Rochelle

994
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: help us out. Here's what went on between last year

995
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: this time with the fires and the days after the

996
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: fires where we reached today. How did you guys cope

997
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: because you mentioned your dad left through just a few items,

998
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 1: and you know that's the thing family, you better figure

999
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: out right now in case a major emergency where you

1000
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: we're the things that you need the most, what are

1001
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: you going to grab first, whether you just be pictures

1002
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 1: or a family and friends, or your passport and other

1003
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: documents that you have, or maybe got cash into the house.

1004
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: You got to think about that in case this happens

1005
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: to you. But it happened for real with Rochelle and

1006
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: her family. So Rochelle, what happened afterwards, after the fire,

1007
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: after the when the camera's left and you guys are

1008
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: still trying to find a place to stay, what happened?

1009
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 7: Okay, Carl, To be honest with you, it's been an

1010
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 7: uphill battle. It's not been easy at all. We have

1011
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 7: good days and we have bad days. We were able

1012
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 7: to find a nice place to live while we wait

1013
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 7: for our rebuild. But like you said, it's been a year.

1014
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 7: I had no idea how time is moving so vastly,

1015
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 7: But I felt like I was just here with you

1016
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 7: yesterday talking about this. It definitely has built a lot

1017
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 7: of character. It's showing the community who's who and showing

1018
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 7: my family members who's who, and everybody has to put

1019
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 7: on their big girl pants and big men boots and

1020
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 7: just weather through it. It's a lot mentally, I know

1021
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 7: my mom has some issues sometimes just even dealing with

1022
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 7: the fact that this happens. You start playing in your

1023
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 7: head the emergency kit that you did forget. Oh, I

1024
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 7: should have grabbed this. Oh, I should have grabbed that.

1025
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 7: And then you're out places and maybe you say, I'm

1026
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 7: going to go to dinner. Oh, okay, well I have

1027
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 7: that black shirt and those black pants that I could

1028
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 7: wear a thing. You're reminded, I don't have anything. I

1029
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 7: don't have anything. So we've been waiting. We have not

1030
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 7: started our rebuild yet. We are still in line waiting

1031
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 7: for the permit process, and right now we're at a

1032
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 7: point where somebody else is kind of directing what goes

1033
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 7: on with us. We've constantly been waiting for the permit.

1034
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 7: Oh and one little thing out there, another Oh we

1035
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 7: need this paper, we need that paper. So it's just

1036
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 7: kind of been a stre RESTful journey. But at the

1037
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 7: same time, we're thankful for the love and the outpour

1038
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 7: support of our community members like yourself, you know, airing

1039
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 7: our story so that it doesn't get swept under.

1040
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 4: Or what rug.

1041
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 7: The Brotherhood Crusade has came through for us as well,

1042
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 7: and our family members have stood up for us as well,

1043
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 7: and even people that we don't even know. So it's

1044
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 7: one of those things where it's terrible, but at the

1045
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 7: same time there's people willing us in letting us know

1046
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 7: that the best is yet to come.

1047
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: Right twenty five the top er. I thank our family

1048
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: members who contributed to that help with it through the

1049
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: Brotherhood Crusade. I know Cedric the and Tanda also donated

1050
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: or at least some electric vehicles for some of the folks.

1051
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: And when in a family, when I say they lost everything,

1052
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: they lost everything, just think about happening to you today

1053
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: this morning. Everything that you own is gone, just gone

1054
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 1: with your car, your shoes, your clothes, you everything, whatever

1055
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: you had in that home is gone. That's what happened

1056
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: to these these these families, and as I mentioned, many

1057
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: of them, UH lived in those homes for many, many years.

1058
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: It's a great neighborhood. Though it's a beautiful place Altadena.

1059
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: You could it's very seductive. You could see I could

1060
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: see people moving to Altadin before the fires and I'm

1061
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: just loving it there.

1062
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 4: It was.

1063
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: It's just it's tuck to where the northern part of

1064
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: La County there, but it was it was pretty nice.

1065
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: We're right upside that the Mountings mountains. But yeah, Rochelle,

1066
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: so what happened you You found a place, So you've

1067
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: you one of the lucky ones if you've been in

1068
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: that same place since the fires, or have you had

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01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: to move around?

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01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 7: Do you know what? We haven't had to move around

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01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 7: when the fires first happened. We're able to go to

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01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 7: my uncle's house and stay with him. But when you

1073
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 7: know that first happened, but my uncle lived at least

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01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 7: like an hour away from where the fire was, and

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01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 7: my dad trying to get back and forth from handling

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01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 7: his business to working part time became very, very crazy

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01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 7: because of the traffic. And it's just so bad. So

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01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 7: I immediately got, you know, on the ground, looking for places

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01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 7: to stay for them, and we did find a few

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01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 7: people who heard our story. And that's why it's so

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01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 7: important that we talk about these things and things don't

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01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 7: get swept under the rug, because if our story wasn't amplified,

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01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 7: I think we would have probably had a more hard

1084
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 7: time trying to find housing, and we did find my

1085
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 7: owner that was able to rent to us, and everything

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01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 7: went smoothly as far as that, and I thank God

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01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 7: for that because we do have family and friends that

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01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 7: are still going from house to house from air B

1089
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 7: and B too, poletael to renting from people who aren't

1090
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 7: as honest as they say they are, are their price

1091
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 7: jacking and are just going up on the prices, and

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01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 7: you know, just having a real hard time finding something

1093
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 7: that's home. Are feels like home, and even though we

1094
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 7: are not at home and the parents are not at home,

1095
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 7: this place has become a place of comfort while we wait.

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01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: Twenty seven after tough you know, when I got out there,

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01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: of course the finds it all died down, but there

1098
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: was a plethora of attorneys advertising on the radio on

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01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 1: television that I want to represent the folks in the

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01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 1: ALTA data how's do you know? How's that going to

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01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: these lossuits. They were talking about the issue the utility

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01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: company because they figured they played a part in it.

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01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: Do you have any reports.

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01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 8: On that.

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01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 7: The utility company hasn't just openly came out and said, Okay,

1106
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 7: this is our fault. But there has been a lot

1107
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 7: of town hall meetings with Edison and Edison is without

1108
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 7: necessarily taking ownership. They have been in works of getting

1109
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 7: people settlements, especially those people who had like fire damage

1110
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 7: and stuff like that. And people are working through getting

1111
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 7: settlements from them. And there's people who actually lost their

1112
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 7: homes that are you know, suing them and taking them

1113
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 7: to the next level as far as what they're going

1114
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,959
Speaker 7: to get from them. But they are trying to make

1115
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 7: some things happen without saying, hey, this was our fault, gotcha.

1116
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: Thirty minutes At the top of our family, Rochelle Jones

1117
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 1: have family one of the survivors of the Altadena fires.

1118
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: It's just the anniversary of those fires out there in

1119
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,439
Speaker 1: Palace Ages as well. But we're focusing on Altadena because

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01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: that's where most of our folks lived and they've lived

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01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: there for for decades that you know, the whole families

1122
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,800
Speaker 1: that have lived there for decades, and it's a beautiful

1123
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: places I mentioned before the fires. But Rochelle going back there,

1124
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: is it safe to go back there because I heard

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01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 1: the had some environmental issues at one time. Is it

1126
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: said you can you go there without a mask or

1127
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 1: do you have to mask up going back to alt

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01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 1: in in these days.

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01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,439
Speaker 7: I don't think that it is really a good thing

1130
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 7: to go back up there without a mask. Of course

1131
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 7: people do, because I don't think they realize the importance

1132
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 7: of the toxins that are in the air. Every since

1133
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 7: that fire, Carl, we've been having so much rain in

1134
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 7: California and this area that is crazy. Even leading up

1135
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 7: to this year anniversary of the fires, we've been having rain, rain, rain, rain, rain,

1136
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 7: and everybody's like, where's this rain last year at this time?

1137
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 7: But the rain, and then we also was having some

1138
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 7: type of wind, heavy winds, so that kind of blows

1139
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 7: that stuff around up there. A lot of people did

1140
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 7: get their soil treated and checked, and for the most

1141
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 7: part it could be okay. But I think it kind

1142
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 7: of depends on where you live, because you got to

1143
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 7: think about it. The whole area was wiped out, so

1144
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 7: it's taking time to get it cleaned up there, and

1145
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 7: it's just really not worth taking the risk of not

1146
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 7: protecting yourself and wearing a mask.

1147
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: Do you know if the businesses have rebounding in are

1148
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: you seeing a lot of businesses are taking place in

1149
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: the area they reopened?

1150
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 7: You know what, there are businesses opening back up and

1151
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 7: servicing the community, and a lot of people are coming

1152
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 7: to the community, not necessarily people who are from Altadena,

1153
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 7: but also from everywhere. There are people that just show up, like, hey,

1154
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 7: heard about the fires out here and I want to support.

1155
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 7: And even those businesses that aren't open yet, they still

1156
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 7: have the support of people coming online purchasing things from them.

1157
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 7: But it is slowly but surely picking back up. You

1158
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 7: see those doors opening up again, all right?

1159
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: Great twenty nine away from the top dout of the

1160
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: Rochelle Jones Rochelle and the family one of the survivors

1161
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 1: of the Altadena fires that took place. This is the

1162
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: anniversary of those fires, and we mentioned earlier with radio

1163
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 1: honors involved with the Brotherhood Crusader and raising money to

1164
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: help those vests. Hence many of them look like me

1165
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 1: and you family, and they've been living out there for decades.

1166
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: And these houses are great. These are gorgeous houses. Out

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01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: there is a place that you could if you move there,

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01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: you'd stay there. Let's put it that way. It's real

1169
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 1: nice out there in Altadam. But this is before before

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01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: the fires. Are you concerned though, Rochelle that when it's

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01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: rebuilt that many people look like us will not be

1172
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 1: in your area of Altadena.

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01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 7: We're fighting for Carl. We're hoping to see we're hoping

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01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 7: the sea. And like I said, it's only been a

1175
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 7: year and a lot of people are still discouraged and frustrated.

1176
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:05,000
Speaker 7: But I'm hoping that they, you know, make a U

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01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 7: turn about this thing and try to really fight it out.

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01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 7: I don't think that it will be the same even

1179
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 7: if we all do rebuild. There are investors kind of

1180
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 7: just sitting around in the area looking around for families

1181
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 7: to be frustrated and trying to offer them some money

1182
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 7: to move on. But then you might hit a block

1183
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 7: and you'll see three or four houses that are being

1184
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 7: built up. So we're hoping and praying that everybody can

1185
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 7: rebuild there. Like I said, neighbors are helping each other.

1186
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 7: People are really forming the hand the hand folk like

1187
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 7: they're really just holding on to each other and really

1188
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 7: just helping one another. Right now, we're hoping to see

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01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 7: outa Dina to be the way that it would was

1190
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 7: once before. But the way things are set up, I mean,

1191
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 7: I'm sure, like I said, it't be the same, but

1192
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 7: we are praying that it can be.

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01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:06,919
Speaker 1: Twenty seven minutes away from the top down. I saw

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01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: a report, I think it was this morning or yesterday

1195
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: that on the other side of town out in Malaby'

1196
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:14,919
Speaker 1: going towards Malad of the Pacific Coast Highway, there's two

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01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 1: there were foreigners, they said, two brothers that buying up

1198
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: all those those lots that were burned out. And the

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01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: folks have just figured it out that these are the

1200
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: foreigners are coming in and buying up all this landed

1201
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: you know, they're buying them lot by lot by lot

1202
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 1: that was burned out. Have you seen that or hearing

1203
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 1: any reports about that?

1204
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 7: In Altadena, I've been hearing that people are coming by

1205
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 7: and I'm buying up things. I can't honestly say that

1206
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 7: I've seen it in my area. I'm seeing people like rebuild,

1207
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 7: but you know, I read articles about people buying certain things.

1208
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 7: Are millionaires coming in. I did see like a story

1209
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:59,400
Speaker 7: where a guy who was born in the area that

1210
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 7: one of lotto he's buying lots of to try to

1211
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 7: rebuild them and help people who could not afford to

1212
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 7: do that. I'm really not sure if I know any

1213
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 7: lot of anybody that I know personally has been bought,

1214
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 7: but I do know people have for sale signs as well.

1215
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: You know, I got to ask you this question. Twenty

1216
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 1: six away from the top, when we were out there

1217
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: with the rebuild had already started. We saw crews driving around.

1218
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: They thought we'd lived there and wanted, you know, is

1219
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: this your house? They wanted, you know, I said, no,

1220
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: we you know, reporters. But they didn't look like us.

1221
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 1: And I've looked around at all the people who were

1222
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: back then, so hopefully it's changed. All the people back

1223
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,600
Speaker 1: then looked like everybody else except us was in the

1224
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: rebuilding process. And in fact, so we found a black

1225
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 1: contractor out in la and each side of he was

1226
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: going to help and not only could help the rebuild

1227
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,800
Speaker 1: out Altadena, he was going to hire young blood, young

1228
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: black people to work for him and train them as

1229
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 1: well to so yeah, so that when when Altid is rebuilt,

1230
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 1: they still have these skills. But he was the only

1231
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: one that we saw. So is that change? And you

1232
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: see when you drive through out and in these days

1233
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: and all the all these crews are repairing these these

1234
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: these homes, you seen people look like us at Rochelle.

1235
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 7: I can't tell you that I have, I really cannot.

1236
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 7: I don't see people who look like us.

1237
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, chrise to me that that that was.

1238
01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: That was disappointed because I looked there, I looked around,

1239
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: you know, kind of everything I do. I'm always looking

1240
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,519
Speaker 1: for our people in any any aspect anything. It's just

1241
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: a crowd and it's a football.

1242
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 7: It's very disappointed. It's very disappointing, especially when you know

1243
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 7: people who can stand in for those jobs and that work,

1244
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 7: work and live in the community and they're the last

1245
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:52,719
Speaker 7: to be sought out there for a job. Is people

1246
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 7: who lost their homes, that do that type of work,

1247
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 7: that have no employment, and they could be up there

1248
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 7: literally rebuilding their community with their skills and their talent.

1249
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 7: But you can't get hired on. You can't do anything.

1250
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 7: It's almost like they're trying to block us out of

1251
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 7: any and everything.

1252
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,640
Speaker 1: Right because this would be a great opportunity. And this

1253
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 1: one brother, one contractor, but he also had he was

1254
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 1: doing some stuff in Africa too, so he was sort

1255
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 1: of divided between Altadena and doing Africa. Setting up the program,

1256
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: and he set up the program and then he says,

1257
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: it's got some business in Africa he was working on.

1258
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: We had him on the program here discussing how he's

1259
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: going to enlist our young people, especially young brothers, he says,

1260
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 1: and send them to trade school or have them, you know,

1261
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: and help to rebuild out to them. That was that

1262
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: was his plan. So that's why I was asking if

1263
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:41,720
Speaker 1: he saw a lot of folks like because when I

1264
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: was there, I didn't see anybody looking. I saw everybody

1265
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,639
Speaker 1: every other colored up under the rainbow except us part

1266
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 1: of the rebuilding process. And I know many of the areas,

1267
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: and I went to areas. They took them to the

1268
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: areas where where most of our folks lived, and nobody

1269
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: looked like us. That was that was sort of concerning

1270
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 1: to me. Somebody's making money again off our sweat and

1271
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 1: not getting paid. And we know we have qualified people

1272
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 1: because we found the contractor. We've got people at all

1273
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 1: levels that could do the work, but they're not being hired.

1274
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: So that that was the problem. That's why we went

1275
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: to found this a black contract and try to hook

1276
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: him up through the brother who cruses, so he could

1277
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 1: help in the rebuilding process of Alta. Dina family, you

1278
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: got questions for our guest. Their name is Rochelle Jones.

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Speaker 1: Family and herself survived the Altadena fires. Who are out

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Speaker 1: there a year ago. This is when the fire started,

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Speaker 1: and you're going to hear to go see the retrospective

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01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: on Tellision that they're going to be talking about it

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01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 1: in an interviewing people like Rochelle, people who survived, because

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Speaker 1: some people lost their lives, some people understand, some people

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01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 1: who are still missing as well. What are your thoughts

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01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: we'll get in on this conversation. Reach out to us

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Speaker 1: at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight to seventy

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Speaker 1: six and we'll take a phone calls after we check

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Speaker 1: the news. Trafficking weather in at different cities. That's next,

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01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family and the Happy hump Day to you.

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01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: Fifteen minutes away from the top of the hour, we're

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Speaker 1: halfway through the work week. With our guess to Rochelle Jones.

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Speaker 1: She's one of her family, one of the survivors of

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01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: the Altadena fires. You remember Radio one was involved in

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Speaker 1: Urban One Cares. We was created, well, it was already there,

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Speaker 1: but we use that vehicle to help raise money to

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01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: some of the victims out there in California that the

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Speaker 1: fire started the year ago. Today. Before we go back

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Speaker 1: to Rochelle, let me just remind you coming up later

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01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: this morning, we're gonna hear from sixties activists that William

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01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 1: maccassa Rix. You know, we marched with doctor King and

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01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 1: Stokey Kolmichael before it became kwame to Ray. So he's

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01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: going to give us his report on the abduction of

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01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: Nicholas Maduro, what he thought thinks about that or before

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01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:30,640
Speaker 1: we get to him, though, the Faith Brothers will be

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01:13:30,680 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: here past the current unting. Doctor j Edmonds is going

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01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: to talk about the rapture. We're heading towards the rapture,

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01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: and tomorrow futuristic Researcher brother Sadeka mccari will join us.

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01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 1: So if you are in Baltimore, make sure you keep

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01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,360
Speaker 1: your radio locked in tight on ten ten WLB, or

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01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:46,640
Speaker 1: if you're in the DMV family, we're on fourteen fifty WL.

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01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 1: So Rochelle, before we left, you know, we're telling us

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01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 1: town folks, some people died and some people haven't even

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01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: some people disappeared, as should say, they haven't found them yet.

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Speaker 1: What are you hearing about that area?

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry, Carl, you said, can you repeat the question again?

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01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: The question was that some people died and some people

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01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: were still missing from the fires. What are you hearing

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01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: has everybody be in a county for as far as

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01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, you.

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01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,799
Speaker 7: Know what, there are some people that are missing still

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01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 7: once people are cleaning out their homes and areas and stuff.

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01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 7: I've also been hearing that remains have been you know,

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01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 7: popping up.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, a sad story out there. But are

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01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 1: you optimistic though, Rochality, you think Elton is going to

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01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: bounce back as it was before? Do you think some

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01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: here reports about these folks are coming in and buying

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01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: up some of these lots and some of the especially

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01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: the elderly people are just you know, they just don't

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01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: have the stomach to rebuild or the only think they're

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Speaker 1: going to be here that long.

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Speaker 7: You go through all of that, and it's a lot

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01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 7: of that. It's a lot of elderly people who have

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01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 7: outlived their families and stuff like that, and they just

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01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 7: don't have anyone to help them. But there are groups

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01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 7: and different neighbors and stuff with people who are trying

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01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 7: to do their best by that. But you know how

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01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 7: it is dealing with us as far as our elderly,

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01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 7: you know, they understand what they understand and they do

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01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 7: the things that they did back in their days, which

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01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 7: works for them, but sometimes it doesn't work for the

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01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 7: new laws or the new things that are going on

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01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 7: in the world, because there are people out there who

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01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 7: are scamming and scheming and stuff like that, so it's

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01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 7: just easier for some people to, you know, kind of

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01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 7: walk away. I am very optimistic that we can come back.

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01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 7: They're strong. I'm very optimistic about that. I know I'm

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01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 7: doing everything in my power, and a lot of people

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01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 7: that I do talk to and that I love and

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01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 7: that I grew up with are doing the same. And

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01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 7: I mentioned to you before when I talked to you

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01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 7: before that my grandmother and my aunties and uncles and

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01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 7: stuff like that, they came over to the Altadenapacadena area

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01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 7: in the fifties and they had way way, way less

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Speaker 7: resources than we did, and they were able to secure

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01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:22,639
Speaker 7: this land for us. And my generation needs to do

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Speaker 7: the same. Our parents left with the clothes on their back,

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01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 7: and it's the generation up under my parents, which is

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01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 7: my generation, that needs to step in with the smarts

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01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,439
Speaker 7: that we have, the connections that we have and the

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01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 7: allies and really rebuild Alta Dina. I really believe that

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Speaker 7: it's up to us.

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Speaker 1: Are you seeing that from that approach from the young

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01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 1: people or they I understand the elderly how they feel.

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01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: He know, they don't have much time left, and you know,

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01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: they hope they may not make it before their homes

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Speaker 1: are rebuilt. And so many of them say, hey, I'll

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01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 1: take the money now and have fun. See young people

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01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: that or young people are you hearing them very enthusiastic

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Speaker 1: about rebuilding Altadena?

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Speaker 3: Young people?

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Speaker 7: Young people are out, Young people are out. There's all

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Speaker 7: different type of collisions out here in rebuilding. Some contractors

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Speaker 7: that are young and African American that are going around

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01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 7: trying to help the community. There's people who come and

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Speaker 7: help clean up, and I feel like whatever gifts that

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01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 7: we have to pour out into our community, if we're accepted,

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Speaker 7: they are doing it. They are out. There's been organizations

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Speaker 7: who have not stopped every Wednesday. They're given out food,

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Speaker 7: they're given out clothes, they're given out hygiene packages. They're

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Speaker 7: doing exactly what they can. And like I said, this

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01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 7: never happened in this area before, so they're kind of

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01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 7: just like everything is brand new to everybody. But for

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Speaker 7: the most part, they are outside trying to make a change.

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Speaker 1: H good good to hear that because Altad is a

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Speaker 1: beautiful community, and so many of our people lost their lands,

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01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 1: lost their savings, and then you've got a whole group

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01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: of land rich but physically poor. If they you know,

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01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 1: the land is worth more than money than they have.

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Speaker 1: How what are you hearing about those folks?

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Speaker 7: You know, Carl, it's the same thing. Everybody is just

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01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 7: kind of scattered around and doing what they can from

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Speaker 7: where they can. Uh, there's people that still come into

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Speaker 7: Alta Dina and you know, try to do the things

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Speaker 7: that they can for their land or for their neighbors

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Speaker 7: and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's great that everybody's working together though, trying

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Speaker 1: to rebuild Alta because you know, as you mentioned this,

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Speaker 1: this has never happened. And as far as this radio

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01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 1: station is concerned or the company Urban want we have,

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01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 1: that's where we have to come in the gap and

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01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 1: fill in the gap for our people. And because it

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01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 1: could happened anywhere, it could happen anywhere in the city,

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01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 1: anywhere in this country, and we have to step up.

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01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: And we did the same thing with Katrina as we

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Speaker 1: call it. Because the other folks really don't care. They're

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01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: not going to help us. They're going to help the folks.

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01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: So it's just where one urban one stepped up to

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01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: fill up that gap to help it folks. But I'm

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01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: just wondering, what's what does Altadena need more most right

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01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:22,200
Speaker 1: now as we speak.

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Speaker 7: As we speak, Alta, Dina needs financial literacy programs, they

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01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 7: need grants, they need help, they need to help in hand,

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01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 7: people need their permit to prove supplies. They we still

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01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 7: need everything. We still need everything. They need housing, mental

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01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 7: health services, any and everything. Like you said, this is

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Speaker 7: brand new to us. We see it happen all around

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01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 7: the world. We see in it in Katrina.

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Speaker 5: And this and that.

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Speaker 7: And you know, you donate and you give your money

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01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 7: to help the people. Look like you said, they're not

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01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 7: coming for us. And if they do come for us,

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01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 7: it will be for their own gain in some way

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01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 7: or somehow. But we need we need leadership. We need

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01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 7: people to stand together with us. We need people to

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01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 7: believe in us and help us make out to Dina

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Speaker 7: back to what it used to be again. We need community,

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01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 7: we need love, we need prayers. We need people like

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01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 7: you to keep on amplifying our stories. And I can't

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01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 7: thank you enough for what you have done for my

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01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 7: family as far as even just talking to me, I

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01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 7: gladly get up at three o'clock in the morning to

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01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 7: have this conversation with you. But yes, that's exactly what

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01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 7: we need. We need all of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm glad you mentioned that, because was

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01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: there any therapy that the folks who went through this,

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01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: especially the children who went through this, because it's got

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01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 1: to be devastating for them because they chilling. They they

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01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 1: like to have security. They don't you know, those moved

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01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 1: on around from a city to city, from home to home.

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01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: They like security. They like to know, this is my home,

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01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: this is it.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 1: Did do you know if any of them got any

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01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 1: therapy or even through the schools or through the churches.

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01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of the churches and a lot of

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01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 7: the schools and just community members have formed different groups

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01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 7: where the kids and their parents and stuff can come

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01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:26,719
Speaker 7: and get therapy for free. There's still some free therapy

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01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 7: out there, and I hope that everybody takes advantage of

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01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 7: it because it definitely is needed. Kids were uprooted from

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01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 7: their homes, their schools, their friends, everything and their life

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01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 7: just changed and they don't understand and this is trauma

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01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 7: that they're going to have to go through for the

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01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 7: rest of their lives. And it starts now. Get that

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01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 7: therapy now so that these things don't turn into other things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, stix away from the top of a past the

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01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:03,840
Speaker 1: current mountag He's joining us. He's involved in Rochelle and

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01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 1: helping folks in. Pastor he's got a church in Pasadena.

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01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: He wants want to hear hear from him, Pastor curring

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01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: Man and grand Rising around with Rochelle Jones. He's also

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01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 1: one of the survivors of the Altadena fires.

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Speaker 9: Hey, it's good to be with you, sister Rochelle. It's

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01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 9: good to hear your voice and thank you for all

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01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 9: you do as well.

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01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,720
Speaker 7: Yes, I'm very familiar with mister Manning and what his

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01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 7: church is doing in the community, not only through the

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01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 7: Altadena Pasadena fires. His church has been a staple, but

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01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 7: just over the over the years and just his own

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01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 7: journey and how the community pour in and loved on him, Yes,

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01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 7: during his time. So he is definitely one of those

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01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 7: that not just talking about it, but definitely being about

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01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:51,559
Speaker 7: God's word.

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Speaker 9: Amen.

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01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:57,759
Speaker 1: Amen, and Pastor Manning, are you still on the weekends

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01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: You're still giving out the supplies the residents of the area.

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01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, we are. We you know, we were. We were

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01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 9: praying that we could go a year and beyond. However

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01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 9: the Lord would have us, and where God guys, he provides,

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01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:16,040
Speaker 9: so we of course, you know, today is the one

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01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 9: year anniversary and we're still serving distribution on Saturdays. We're

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01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 9: going to pause this Saturday to join with HARAMBEI and

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01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 9: na A c P serving partners, all the groups that

1485
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 9: have been been here for the community, doing a big

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01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,759
Speaker 9: thing at harambe this Saturday. But then the following Saturday,

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01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 9: we're back. We're back at it again. All right, this

1488
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 9: is absolutely right. We do need we do need to

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01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 9: make sure that people it's been it's been like I've

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Speaker 9: never been in war, but it's it was. It was been.

1491
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 9: It's been like a war zone, and people are overwhelmed,

1492
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 9: and children are still disengaged from from community, and we

1493
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 9: have to continue to stand with one another until all

1494
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 9: has been restored. So I'm just thankful for Rochelle being

1495
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 9: on here today talking about that as well. So thank you,

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Speaker 9: my sister.

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Speaker 1: All right, hold that thought right there, we step aside

1498
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 1: for a few moments and check the traffic weather, and

1499
01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 1: that different sister would come back with Rochelle past the

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Speaker 1: Coming Man and also doctor Jay Edmonds joined us. We're

1501
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: going to talk about the Rapture family. We're going to

1502
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 1: get into some biblical stuff. You want to get joined

1503
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 1: the conversation, it's really easy. Just reach out to us

1504
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six

1505
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls after we check the

1506
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,639
Speaker 1: traffic and weather in at different cities. That's next. Thank

1507
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 1: Grand Rising Family, thanks for starting your Wednesday with us.

1508
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: Eight minutes one minute actually at the top of the hour.

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01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: Our guest is a sister, Rochelle Jones, and she's one

1510
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: of the survivors of the Alta Dina fires, and some

1511
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,200
Speaker 1: of you may recall Urban One. Under the leadership of

1512
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 1: our founder of Miss Cathy Hughes, we started a program

1513
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: working with the Brotherhood Crusade to help some of the

1514
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: people impacted by those fires. Because may only look like us.

1515
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,519
Speaker 1: And Rochelle has told you the rebuilding is taking place

1516
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,600
Speaker 1: in Altadena. This is the anniversary by the way of

1517
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 1: the fires. That's where we have in this conversation. But

1518
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: many of them don't look like us. That's another part

1519
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 1: we have to pick up and past the current Manning

1520
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 1: doctor Jay Edmonds is where let's past the Manning's church,

1521
01:25:07,200 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 1: Pasading the church just one is actually the epicenter of shit.

1522
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: They're still there helping folks impacted by those fires. Rochelle,

1523
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: Before we let you go though, again, what would you

1524
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 1: if if all the people listening, if they want to help,

1525
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 1: what what does what does altade in the Pasadena air

1526
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: What do they need our brothers and sisters in that area,

1527
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: what do they need the most? Right now? Again? If

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01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: you can repeat that for us, I'd appreciate it.

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01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 7: Okay, family, we are in the need of everything. We

1530
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 7: need housing, we need funds to keep people afloat when

1531
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:45,559
Speaker 7: they're insurance policies len out for their rental properties. We

1532
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 7: need mostly mental health therapy and just placement. We need prayers,

1533
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 7: we need love, We need everything, you guys. It's I mean,

1534
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 7: it's it has been a year, but the reality of

1535
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 7: it is is that today it starts all over again.

1536
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 7: Even up to this date, we were so thankful for

1537
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 7: a new year coming, but we all knew that we

1538
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:15,719
Speaker 7: had to face this date. A lot of people didn't

1539
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 7: have insurance, so everything is just like restarting all over again.

1540
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 7: We are in the need of everything. Russa.

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01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 1: Let me ask you. So, I just thought about this,

1542
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: how did you guys make it through the holidays? Because

1543
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 1: you know, holidays are usually when families come together. How

1544
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 1: did you guys make it the Thanksgiving and Christmas? How

1545
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 1: did you guys do that?

1546
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 7: It was not It was not easy. I definitely try

1547
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 7: to bring in the Christmas spirit a little bit. I mean,

1548
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 7: we do know the real reason for the season, but

1549
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,759
Speaker 7: at the same time, you're so used to your family

1550
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 7: and friends coming up to your home and decorating your

1551
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 7: home beautifully and having your Christmas tree and stuff like that.

1552
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 7: But just to kind of see my mom and dad,

1553
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,840
Speaker 7: they weren't in the Christmas sphirit at all. I was

1554
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 7: able to bring them a Christmas tree and had helped

1555
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 7: a little bit, But for the most part, families were

1556
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 7: wherever they were, kind of sleeping in trying to wait

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01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 7: for that day to be over.

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01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Rochelle, thank you. Thank you for sharing your

1559
01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 1: thoughts with us. And let's stay in touch because you

1560
01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 1: know the work is not over so and Radio one

1561
01:27:25,760 --> 01:27:27,639
Speaker 1: still wants to help, so let's stay in touch.

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01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 7: I had to just be done. Yes, thank you, You're

1563
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 7: so welcome. Thank you, Carl for everything that you do.

1564
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:35,559
Speaker 7: Have a blessed morning.

1565
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,280
Speaker 1: All righty, thank you. That's Rochelle's family. Her and her

1566
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 1: family survive the Pasadena Altadena fires and past the Coring

1567
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 1: Mountings churches I mentioned is at the epicenter there. So

1568
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 1: folks who want to make donations past the maning, how

1569
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: can they do it through your church? Can they reach

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01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 1: them to help the folks out there through you?

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01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, they can. Whenever you go to our website Pasadena

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01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 9: Church dot com uh on the homepage, there's a eating

1573
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 9: fire or each and Fiery Leaf tab or something like that.

1574
01:28:05,200 --> 01:28:08,080
Speaker 9: If you just press that button, you can donate. Everything

1575
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 9: that comes through that through that portal goes to our

1576
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 9: effort to support our community. We don't do any overhead

1577
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,080
Speaker 9: costs or keep anything for ourselves. It goes right back

1578
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 9: to the community. We purchase gift cards. We're so thankful.

1579
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 9: A lot of partners have come through for us. We've

1580
01:28:23,400 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 9: got a water as the young people say plug. Now,

1581
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 9: we've got a water plug from Arrowheads. So they've been

1582
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 9: donating water and that's been a tremendous blessing because that

1583
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 9: was about fifteen hundred dollars a week just for water

1584
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 9: that we've been spending. But everything that comes in it

1585
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:41,879
Speaker 9: goes right back out to health the families. And Rochelle

1586
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 9: is absolutely right. We need prayer, we need but we

1587
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 9: need support, We need advocates to help us change some

1588
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 9: of the not even the laws, but just the way

1589
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 9: that people have looked at building. Usually it's you know,

1590
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,839
Speaker 9: someone wants to build a home, they go on that journey.

1591
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 9: But when you lose a home and then you're told

1592
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 9: that your insurance won't cover the rebuild, after you've paid

1593
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 9: for your home and you're about five hundred thousand to

1594
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:11,639
Speaker 9: a million dollars short of what's going to take, then

1595
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 9: what do you do? That's what Rochelle's talking about. These

1596
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 9: families are devastated and many of them are in long

1597
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:21,680
Speaker 9: term temporary housing. But it's not the same. It's not

1598
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:24,200
Speaker 9: your home, it's not the memory. So she's absolutely right.

1599
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 9: People were not in the celebratory spirit as they usually are.

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01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 9: The scripture does say don't we don't more in the

1602
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 9: way the world does. And you know, there's a different

1603
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 9: perspective for believers because we were we were making sure

1604
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 9: that our families were okay. From our church, but also

1605
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 9: that we were celebrating the birth of Christ as the

1606
01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 9: highlight of what Christmas is all about. So we had

1607
01:29:50,439 --> 01:29:54,400
Speaker 9: a lot of joy because we had our children singing.

1608
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 9: We also had I did a surprise Whining's version of

1609
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 9: the real meaning of Christmas, and we just pulled men

1610
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,640
Speaker 9: out of the audience. So you know, whenever men do

1611
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 9: something many children, you know you can't go wrong with that.

1612
01:30:05,880 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 9: You're going to spark some joy. But it is still

1613
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 9: a marathon, not a sprint, and there's still a lot

1614
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 9: of needs to help us speak to all the way

1615
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 9: up the chain to be able to cover and to

1616
01:30:19,200 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 9: bridge the gap that she's talking about that many families

1617
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 9: are experiencing for their rebuild and very few homes have

1618
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,479
Speaker 9: been rebuilt of any totally. I think there's a couple

1619
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 9: that may have already been totally rebuilt, but we're talking

1620
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 9: over six thousand, almost seven thousand homes. So we're still

1621
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 9: right in the middle of it and still committed to

1622
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 9: our community. So thank you and to Brotherhood for all

1623
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:44,479
Speaker 9: you all have done and continue to do forcing with us.

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01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:46,639
Speaker 1: Right you're back home though.

1625
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 9: Right we are. We were evacuated for six months with

1626
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 9: smoke damage in our home. Our insurance did not pay

1627
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 9: for it though, so that's what the delay. And we

1628
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 9: had our ninety year old mom with the and did

1629
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 9: not want to compromise her health, so we wanted to

1630
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 9: make sure everything was done and it is. So we're

1631
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 9: thankful that we are back in our home. But it's

1632
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 9: you know, like brother Frankie said, joy and pain go

1633
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 9: together like sunshine and rain. And we've learned in this season.

1634
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,560
Speaker 9: One of the things I've learned brother Carlin, and to

1635
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 9: doctor j who's just a wonderful brother as well, is

1636
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 9: that how to how to be able to hold joy

1637
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:30,799
Speaker 9: and pain, weeping and rejoicing in the same space, because

1638
01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:32,960
Speaker 9: that's what we've had to do to navigate as well,

1639
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:36,759
Speaker 9: to have people who've lost everything, you know, and to

1640
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 9: serve and minister to them, and to see the pain

1641
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:44,479
Speaker 9: and the anguish of the loss, but also to rejoice

1642
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 9: for those who didn't lose their homes, and to have

1643
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 9: all of those people in the same space crying together

1644
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 9: and rejoicing together, something I've never experienced. Usually, you know,

1645
01:31:53,080 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 9: it's the upsoor the downs, but it will grow your faith,

1646
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 9: I believe when you understand that it is possible to

1647
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 9: do both and for both of those experiences to be

1648
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:08,400
Speaker 9: ours individually and corporately collectively.

1649
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 1: Got you ten after the top, I was bringing doctor

1650
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 1: J doctor J Edmunds, Doctor Edmunds grand Rising, and thank

1651
01:32:14,040 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 1: you for being so patient with us while we discussed

1652
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:17,440
Speaker 1: these finds out in Altatina.

1653
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 4: But oh by no means grand Rising. It's very informative

1654
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 4: as well as instructive as it relates to human emotions

1655
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 4: through challenges. That's where we're tested. And I just it's

1656
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 4: it's it's remarkable the work that Pastor Manning and others

1657
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:49,760
Speaker 4: are doing in that particular area to address what has

1658
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:51,639
Speaker 4: happened there right.

1659
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 1: As we've been telling folks, and where all we got.

1660
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 1: If we don't do nobody else is going to do

1661
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:57,960
Speaker 1: it anyway. But I want to ask you a question

1662
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 1: about the rapture. What can you define? What is the rapture?

1663
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 1: I keep hearing this word, what is the rapture? And

1664
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 1: when you define it, explain when is it coming? Or

1665
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: are we in the rapture?

1666
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:13,719
Speaker 4: You know, so many people begin to talk about or

1667
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:20,679
Speaker 4: speak on eschatological things in time, things when it seems

1668
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 4: to be some sort of upheaval and I guess this

1669
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 4: is one of those particular times, particularly what is happening

1670
01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 4: in geopolitically, there are people who want to know, are

1671
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 4: are we at the end of the age, and if so,

1672
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 4: what are the particulars that are relevant within.

1673
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:42,719
Speaker 7: The end of the age.

1674
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 4: And they speak about the rapture, which generally is a

1675
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:55,520
Speaker 4: term that is used for a snatching away or gathering

1676
01:33:56,439 --> 01:34:03,720
Speaker 4: of God's people, those who are in Christ. And it

1677
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 4: generated from one of the writings or the letters of

1678
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 4: the apostle Paul to the church at that's a Lanika,

1679
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 4: when he had written to them and he told them,

1680
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:22,519
Speaker 4: don't be sad when someone passed away, as if that

1681
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 4: is the end of it, Because the Lord himself will

1682
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,760
Speaker 4: descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of

1683
01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 4: an archangel, with the trouble God. The dead in Christ

1684
01:34:33,200 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 4: shall rise first. Then we who are alive and remain

1685
01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 4: shall be caught up together with them in the clouds

1686
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,040
Speaker 4: to meet the Lord in there. And so shall we

1687
01:34:42,120 --> 01:34:44,880
Speaker 4: have a be with the Lord. So that word means

1688
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:51,719
Speaker 4: a snatching away, a catching up, a gathering, And that's

1689
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:57,120
Speaker 4: what rapture means. It's almost like a harvest. Jesus placed

1690
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 4: it in that vernacular.

1691
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but let me interrupt and ask of this, what

1692
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,679
Speaker 1: is I keep hearing this number one hundred and forty

1693
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:05,719
Speaker 1: four thousand, the only one hundred and forty four thousand

1694
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 1: of us are going to be saved. I keep hearing

1695
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:10,600
Speaker 1: that number from different religious sex Can you, Yeah, I

1696
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 1: think explain that to us.

1697
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 4: Sure, I think that that is taken out of context

1698
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 4: in the Book of Revelation, relative to the twelve from

1699
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 4: each tribe, it was symbolic. But John said I saw

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01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 4: another number which was a greater number, and that number

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01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 4: itself was composed of those who were believers to be

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01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 4: snatched away. So that one hundred and forty four thousand

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01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:48,800
Speaker 4: was utilized by Jehovah's witnesses at one point in time

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01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:55,360
Speaker 4: as a builded or campaign strategy, saying that if one

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01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:57,960
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty one hundred and forty four thousand that

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01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:01,719
Speaker 4: is mentioned in scripture, that is the number of those

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01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:06,160
Speaker 4: who will be snatched away or saved, then it will

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01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 4: cause more to come into their organization. And they use

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01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 4: that in that way, and so it's been it has

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01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 4: been adopted.

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01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,040
Speaker 1: So you're saying it's not biblical, then.

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01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 4: It's not biblical. To the degree that only one hundred

1713
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 4: and forty four thousand will be saved. It's taken out

1714
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 4: of context. It's twelve thousand out of each tribe that

1715
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 4: was marked as a remnant from the tribe of Israel.

1716
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 4: But it has nothing to do with the salvation of

1717
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:45,160
Speaker 4: those who are believers in general.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha? Well, hold are the fifteen after the top? I

1719
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:51,400
Speaker 1: go back to past the current manning? Past the manner.

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01:36:51,439 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 1: Let's talking about numbers six six six has been attached

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01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 1: to negativity? And where did this come about? What do

1722
01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 1: they mean when the six six a friend of mine,

1723
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 1: he had a phone number, and yet all the sixers

1724
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: were together. He went as soon as they assigned it,

1725
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:08,760
Speaker 1: he went and changed it. That was the mark of

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01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 1: the temple. So uh, it was suspicious. And we keep

1727
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:14,599
Speaker 1: hearing about six sixty six the mark of the devil.

1728
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 1: Some people say, I won't even go into that. Yeah

1729
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: I will. Some people said Donald Trump is the Antichrist.

1730
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 1: Let me go there. You know, he's got the mark

1731
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 1: of the beast on him. Flesh that out for us

1732
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:28,360
Speaker 1: this morning at fourteen after the top past the curry manning.

1733
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:34,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, well you are right. We have learned some

1734
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:37,600
Speaker 9: people with knowledge or without any knowledge about it to

1735
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 9: avoid those three numbers in the row at least. And

1736
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 9: the letter that I don't put together in threes is

1737
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 9: the letter K as well. They have a lot of

1738
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 9: symbolism and history in our world. But the number sixty

1739
01:37:55,000 --> 01:38:02,560
Speaker 9: sixty six is actually connected to a scripture in Revelations

1740
01:38:02,720 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 9: chapter thirteen, and it's referring to the mark of the beast.

1741
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 9: Though as doctor Admans was talking about esculoz and all

1742
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:19,360
Speaker 9: of these things, catology and understanding the scriptures and the

1743
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 9: true meaning, six x six was a number that was

1744
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 9: that was placed on the person that was considered to

1745
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 9: be the beast, theander Christ. It says, if anyone has insight,

1746
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 9: let him calculate the number of the beasts, for it

1747
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 9: is man's number, his number, six six six. It's also

1748
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 9: referred to as a number of humanity. He's got a

1749
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:45,680
Speaker 9: lot of different references, but usually it has become a primary,

1750
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 9: almost like a logo almost of the occult, occult to

1751
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 9: practices and anyone just against the things of God. Many

1752
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 9: times when they go deeper into that world, sixty sixty

1753
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:06,799
Speaker 9: six and inverted pentagrams and all of these things become

1754
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 9: a part of there, the way that they communicate and

1755
01:39:10,520 --> 01:39:18,520
Speaker 9: display their allegiance to evil, to satan, to wickedness. So

1756
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:21,960
Speaker 9: so the number in and of itself is a is

1757
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:26,520
Speaker 9: a number. But when you have these types of references

1758
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:31,000
Speaker 9: and the history of it, it can become a negative thing.

1759
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 9: Ill let me tell me.

1760
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:37,639
Speaker 1: Is it is it in the Bible though? Past them manning?

1761
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 1: Is there's the number six six six? Or is there

1762
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 1: some satanic ritual that that other folks are dealing with?

1763
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 4: Well?

1764
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:48,520
Speaker 9: The number that you asked about, the number, Yes, Revelation thirteen,

1765
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 9: verse eighteen. This calls for wisdom. The scripture says, if

1766
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 9: anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the

1767
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,679
Speaker 9: beasts for his man's number, his number, six sixty six.

1768
01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:02,439
Speaker 9: Prior to that, John the Revelator is talking about the

1769
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 9: beast coming out of the earth and what he would

1770
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:09,639
Speaker 9: look like in all of these things. And so it's

1771
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 9: connect That's what it is. Connected to it again, it's

1772
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:17,600
Speaker 9: connected to the Book of Revelation and the end times.

1773
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 9: There is I.

1774
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:22,800
Speaker 1: Thought, right, We're gonna step aside for a few moments.

1775
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 1: I'll did you finish your thought when you come back?

1776
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 1: I got a tweeter Center question for both of you. Brothers.

1777
01:40:27,479 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 1: The Faith Brothers are on their family call up a

1778
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:31,439
Speaker 1: couple of friends that got a question about religion. These

1779
01:40:31,439 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 1: are the brothers you need to post those questions. So

1780
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 1: I'll read the tweet for it Tweeter. It says in

1781
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:38,519
Speaker 1: Revelations twenty seventy eight, it describes the devil as being

1782
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:41,400
Speaker 1: released after a period. Is this what we're witnessing now

1783
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 1: with Donald Trump? I know somebody would go there. Family,

1784
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 1: you want to get in on this discussion, reach out

1785
01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:47,759
Speaker 1: to us at eight hundred and four or five zero

1786
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six. We'll take it. Phone calls next

1787
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:53,400
Speaker 1: and grind Rising family. Thanks for rolling with us on

1788
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:56,639
Speaker 1: this Wednesday morning. It's a hump day and it's twenty

1789
01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:58,759
Speaker 1: one minutes after the top day out with the Faith Brothers.

1790
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 1: Doctor Jay Edmonds have pasted the King Manning and before

1791
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,439
Speaker 1: we left, Pastor Manning was responding to a question that

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01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:05,640
Speaker 1: I posed about six six six. I didn't know it

1793
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:09,120
Speaker 1: was biblical. So Pastor Manimaly, did you finish it explaining that.

1794
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:16,040
Speaker 9: For us, Yes, the scripture talks about the beast and

1795
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:18,719
Speaker 9: the mark of the beast. You've probably heard that phrase

1796
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 9: again from Revelation thirteen, is a reference that I'm using

1797
01:41:23,720 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 9: that this beast would have tremendous power. This this beast

1798
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:31,880
Speaker 9: coming out of the earth, would in this time show

1799
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:36,679
Speaker 9: tremendous signs, almost like signs and wonders, right, fire from

1800
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:41,000
Speaker 9: heaven and all these kinds of things. But the fascination

1801
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:44,799
Speaker 9: and the fear of it comes because there is reference

1802
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 9: there that that he would force everyone to have this mark,

1803
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 9: almost as as we have to carry ID right when

1804
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:57,679
Speaker 9: when when we're asked for ID. You can't travel without

1805
01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 9: a real ID or a passport. And this mark, this

1806
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:07,799
Speaker 9: number on their hand on the forehead. We've seen different

1807
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 9: versions of this over time. I haven't seen the recent

1808
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 9: versions with the advancement of CGI graphics and all of that.

1809
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 9: But the thought is that that people would be forced

1810
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:24,719
Speaker 9: to to have this mark so that they could survive

1811
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:30,000
Speaker 9: in the end times, and that this mark of the

1812
01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 9: beast was the number that you're talking about. It was

1813
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 9: his the mark, the number of his name and and

1814
01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 9: his image. And the mark was six sixty six.

1815
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 1: All right, twenty three at the top of the other

1816
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 1: tweet I mentioned before the break, Tweeter says in Revelations

1817
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 1: twenty seven to eight. It describes the devil being released

1818
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:50,040
Speaker 1: after a period, and the tweeter goes on to ask,

1819
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:52,799
Speaker 1: is this what we are witnessing now with Donald Trump?

1820
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:55,120
Speaker 1: So let me let me.

1821
01:42:55,840 --> 01:43:00,959
Speaker 4: Allow me to if I if I can very insightful

1822
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 4: what fashion Manna had said about the mark of the Beast.

1823
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 4: I want us to look into the entire reference to

1824
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 4: what the tweeter has tweeted and to the question that

1825
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:20,599
Speaker 4: was presented concerning the mark.

1826
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 1: Of the Beast.

1827
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 4: Everything that the enemy is doing and have been doing,

1828
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:40,960
Speaker 4: is for the purpose of artificially and superficially emulating what

1829
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 4: God is doing or who he is. And so he's

1830
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:55,160
Speaker 4: creating this artificial intelligence. He's creating this apparatus whereas people

1831
01:43:55,240 --> 01:44:00,439
Speaker 4: will begin to lean toward more so that which is

1832
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:06,120
Speaker 4: not living, but it has the attributes of that which

1833
01:44:06,160 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 4: is living. That's where the enemy has decided to distract

1834
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 4: and capture God's people and place God. When I say

1835
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:21,880
Speaker 4: God's people, I mean God's human creation, and place them

1836
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:26,439
Speaker 4: in a situation whereas they're given more credence and attention

1837
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 4: to that which is pseudo life so Zoe as we

1838
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:37,080
Speaker 4: call it, more so than the real thing, more so

1839
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 4: than the true and the living God and attributes that

1840
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:44,400
Speaker 4: come forward, that is even within us who we really are,

1841
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 4: made in His likeness, in His image. So the enemy

1842
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 4: is distracting and he's bringing about certain things to be

1843
01:44:55,320 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 4: accepted as normality and as truth. Words one now, if

1844
01:45:01,360 --> 01:45:03,960
Speaker 4: they want an answer to a question, that they can

1845
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:08,200
Speaker 4: go right to their phone and go and ask that

1846
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:11,439
Speaker 4: question and when an answer come up. So it is

1847
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 4: with GVT chat and AI. All this is artificial now

1848
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:23,320
Speaker 4: as it relates to the actual mark. It is a

1849
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 4: number of a person's or an individual's name, or that

1850
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 4: which has been assigned to that say, for instance, the

1851
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:36,920
Speaker 4: number of your name would be your social Security number.

1852
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 4: I don't have to call you by name. I can

1853
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:42,000
Speaker 4: pull up the number of your name, which is your

1854
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:46,120
Speaker 4: social Security number. That represents you. But it is suto you.

1855
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 4: It is not who you are. It does not display

1856
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:53,400
Speaker 4: all of the characteristically the attributes of who you are.

1857
01:45:54,120 --> 01:45:57,760
Speaker 4: It is a representation of who you are. And so

1858
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:01,160
Speaker 4: it is. And that's what the enemy is doing. Now.

1859
01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:06,439
Speaker 4: God is saying that he wants us to deal with

1860
01:46:06,920 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 4: that which is truth, that which is real, not that

1861
01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:17,439
Speaker 4: which is artificial, not that which is pseudo within itself. Unfortunately,

1862
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 4: the bate that the enemy has thrown out has captured

1863
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:27,679
Speaker 4: some of God's human creation, and they're leaning more towards

1864
01:46:28,080 --> 01:46:36,760
Speaker 4: this pseudo type of of of of living in the

1865
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 4: reality itself.

1866
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 5: And so what the.

1867
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 4: John the Revelator is saying, those who actually buy completely

1868
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:54,799
Speaker 4: in have sold out, and it's going to show because

1869
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:56,920
Speaker 4: they're going to be missing some of the components that

1870
01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 4: are necessary to thrive and be identified as God's human creation.

1871
01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 4: And then there's going to be a separation. Now God

1872
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 4: is going to give them space as it relates to

1873
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 4: Satan's influence. And that's where we have what is called

1874
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:20,240
Speaker 4: the millennial. What the tweeter was talking about, the enemy

1875
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 4: being actually taken, the devil being taken and cast into

1876
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 4: prison for a thousand years, that's the millennial period the

1877
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 4: attributes itself, and the caller is right. The attribute the

1878
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:41,559
Speaker 4: tweeter is right. The attributes of the enemy itself is

1879
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:46,000
Speaker 4: on display throughout the world. Look at what is happening geopolitically,

1880
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 4: whereas people are hearing lies, accepting lies as being true.

1881
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 4: Look at the greed, the pride of life, the lust

1882
01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 4: of the flesh, the lust of the eyes. All of

1883
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 4: these things are in full or on full display now.

1884
01:48:04,120 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 4: But the difference is if one does not know the

1885
01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 4: absoluteism of truth itself, then they receive that which is pseudo.

1886
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 4: So therefore what God will do and it is doing,

1887
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 4: we are approaching that millennial period whereas there will be

1888
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:29,160
Speaker 4: a and you talked about rapture, that will be a

1889
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:35,000
Speaker 4: calling to the forefront of truth, at the intersection of

1890
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 4: truth and that which is not true, And so that

1891
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 4: space is being given. God will actually place the enemy

1892
01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 4: within chains of darkness. And he had mentioned that in

1893
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 4: Revelation chapter twenty but he said this, and I think

1894
01:48:55,680 --> 01:49:01,759
Speaker 4: people should look at this very carefully in Revelation chapter

1895
01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 4: twenty one, even if you don't even embrace biblical scripture itself,

1896
01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,760
Speaker 4: I want you to look at this which is very important.

1897
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:16,840
Speaker 4: Here those who are identified with the acceptation of that

1898
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 4: which is pseudo will be separated from those who are

1899
01:49:21,520 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 4: identified with the reality of the Truth and Christ. And

1900
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:30,960
Speaker 4: so there will be a thousand year period whereas those

1901
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:37,680
Speaker 4: who are in Christ shall be separated. After that thousand years,

1902
01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 4: then the enemy will be released again into that means

1903
01:49:44,320 --> 01:49:49,360
Speaker 4: It's full power into this earth round this So.

1904
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:52,960
Speaker 1: Let me so, having said all of that, where are

1905
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:55,599
Speaker 1: we now? Are we at the end.

1906
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 4: Of the day.

1907
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:56,719
Speaker 5: We're at the door.

1908
01:49:56,800 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 4: We're at the door of the millennial. We're at that

1909
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:08,360
Speaker 4: door right now whereas Christ is about to present himself.

1910
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:11,720
Speaker 4: We're at that door right now where the sheep is

1911
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 4: being separated from the goat, where the wheat is being

1912
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Speaker 4: separated from the tear. We're at that place now. The

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Speaker 4: enemy is staring it up, stirring the pot up all

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Speaker 4: the more with illusions with that which is pseudo truth.

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Speaker 4: He's stirring it up, and people are buying in to it.

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Speaker 4: That's why it is imperative, even if you don't, even

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Speaker 4: if you don't believe in Christ, even if you've thrown

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Speaker 4: that out of the window, start at the foundational aspect

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Speaker 4: of it and deal with that which cannot be seen,

1920
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Speaker 4: because that which cannot be seen actually is the catalyst

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Speaker 4: for that which can be seen. And the enemy knows that,

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Speaker 4: and he knows who knows that. And that's where we

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Speaker 4: are now.

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Speaker 1: Right yours all right? Hold, I thought again, Pastor Manning eight,

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Speaker 1: Pastor Edmunds eight hundred four or five, you know, seventy eight,

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Speaker 1: seventy six, twenty nine minutes away from the top of

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Speaker 1: that with the Faith Brothers. Doctor j Edmonds, you just

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Speaker 1: heard of past the current manning with us this morning

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Speaker 1: discussing the rapture is just the end of time? What

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts? Kwame is checking in from North Carolina

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Speaker 1: has a question for the Faith Brothers. He's online one

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising and Kwame around with the Faith.

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Speaker 10: Brothers, Grand Rising Brothers and good morning Faith Brothers, Grand Rises.

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Speaker 10: I would like to know this. I want to search

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Speaker 10: for the truth I'm looking at. I think it's called

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Speaker 10: the Lacis for twenty two, twenty twenty four. Twenty two,

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Speaker 10: twenty four the use of an allegory of Abraham's two sons. Now,

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Speaker 10: allegory is that you're telling us story. So does that

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Speaker 10: mean everything in the Bible is just a story and

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Speaker 10: it's not true? You know what was actually happening here?

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Speaker 10: That's a good question. What was actually happening here? And

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Speaker 10: allegory means that this is a representation of something, an

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Speaker 10: example of something.

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Speaker 4: That is real.

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Speaker 5: And this which was given was.

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Speaker 4: Given concerning the two children, one was accepted of God

1947
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Speaker 4: and one was not accepted of God even before he

1948
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Speaker 4: was born. And this is showing that God elects whom

1949
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Speaker 4: he chooses, that those are predestinated, predestinated to belong to

1950
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Speaker 4: him and will become aware of who he is. And

1951
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Speaker 4: this is what is happening in Galation chapter four. So

1952
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Speaker 4: that's why when you look at Galation chapter four, verse three,

1953
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Speaker 4: he says, even so we when we were children in

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Speaker 4: bondage under the elements of the world, that means that

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Speaker 4: we were walking according to how society was walking. We

1956
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Speaker 4: were being subject to a relation through association. But when

1957
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Speaker 4: the fullness of time came, he goes on to say,

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Speaker 4: God sent his son, made of a woman, just as

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Speaker 4: we are, a flesh made under the law, for the

1960
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Speaker 4: purpose of redeeming us, redeeming those who are who are

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Speaker 4: under the law, that we may receive the adoption of sons,

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Speaker 4: that we may become sons through the knowledge of the

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Speaker 4: reality of the truth that we are spirits, that we

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Speaker 4: are this body is just for motivation to get around

1965
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Speaker 4: this planet and nothing more, and that we should really

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Speaker 4: look at the forces that are behind it, the force

1967
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Speaker 4: of darkness, the force of light, the kingdom of darkness,

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Speaker 4: the kingdom of light. And either there is a citizenship

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Speaker 4: in one or the other. And that's what he came

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Speaker 4: to show us. He moved on us in that way

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Speaker 4: so that we're able to have an understanding to what

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Speaker 4: is really happening here.

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Speaker 1: All right, don't do it for you, Kwame? I think

1974
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Speaker 1: h thanks brother Kwame, calling from North Carolina. A question,

1975
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Speaker 1: since here we're discussing the final days or the last days?

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Speaker 1: Uh this question? Let me ask Pastor Manning about this

1977
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Speaker 1: one about cremation and will the folks who are cremated,

1978
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Speaker 1: will they be caught up in the rapture as well?

1979
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Speaker 1: It's the rapture something that we should all try to

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Speaker 1: get into or try to achieve or be involved in

1981
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Speaker 1: the rapture. I'm grappling with what the rapture is. What's

1982
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Speaker 1: it going to be like? You know so far you

1983
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Speaker 1: guys tell me it's a word, it's a rapture. I'm

1984
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what it is is euphoria. We're

1985
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Speaker 1: going to be happy. You know. If you brothers can

1986
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Speaker 1: help us out, I appreciate it. But first, the Pastor Manning,

1987
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Speaker 1: the cre creator creation folks who do because I know

1988
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Speaker 1: I've got some friends who you know, they don't want

1989
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Speaker 1: the traditional funeral. Ley just say, just brung me up

1990
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Speaker 1: and toss me in the water or something like that

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Speaker 1: because I'm done.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, that's that's another point of you know, where

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Speaker 9: people have their their thoughts and ideas but not necessarily correct.

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Speaker 9: And you know, I know as a Christian pastor, when

1995
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Speaker 9: it comes to to how people want to be buried

1996
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Speaker 9: or cremate it we we know in at least in California,

1997
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Speaker 9: but this is just about everywhere. It comes down to

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Speaker 9: a financial matter or and insurance and all of those

1999
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Speaker 9: kinds of things. But when it comes to to the rapture,

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Speaker 9: the second the return of Christ, where we will spend eternity,

2001
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Speaker 9: everybody will will will rise again, the scripture says in

2002
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Speaker 9: John chapter five. But where we spend eternity is what

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Speaker 9: comes into question. The other thing is that that with

2004
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Speaker 9: the second return of Christ, that that the Bible says

2005
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Speaker 9: that the dead in Christ will rise.

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Speaker 5: But that.

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Speaker 1: Passed. So you're saying, I'm going to see my grandmothers,

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Speaker 1: my great grandmothers, or grandparents, my parents, or everybody who

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Speaker 1: passed that is gonna We're gonna see them in the

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Speaker 1: flesh again. Is that what you're trying to tell us.

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Speaker 9: I didn't say. I didn't say that we will see

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Speaker 9: them again and will all be together. I said that

2013
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Speaker 9: they will all rise. John John chapter chapter five tells

2014
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Speaker 9: us this. It says that the chapter five, verse twenty eight.

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Speaker 9: Don't be amazed when I tell you these things, For

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Speaker 9: there's a day coming when everyone who has ever died

2017
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Speaker 9: will hear my voice calling them back to life, and

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Speaker 9: they will come out of their graves. Those who have

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Speaker 9: done what is good will experience a resurrection to eternal life,

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Speaker 9: and those who have practiced evil will taste the resurrection

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Speaker 9: of judgment. So the question, then, because where will you

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Speaker 9: spend eternity? Everyone will we will all be judged, We

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Speaker 9: will all be vetted through the through the book of life.

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Speaker 9: Whose name is written in the Lamb's Book of life,

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Speaker 9: even when you go back to revelation, those whose names

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Speaker 9: were written in the Lamb's Book of life are spared

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Speaker 9: from these terrible things.

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Speaker 1: And hold on hold, I thought, right there, I have

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Speaker 1: to do this. So we got to take a break.

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Speaker 1: But this is interesting what you're sharing with us, as

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Speaker 1: the curring man. When we come back, explain to us,

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Speaker 1: so where are these folks who passed down? Where are

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Speaker 1: they now? Where are their souls? There's somewhere in a

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Speaker 1: band somewhere waiting for the rapture. Then they're going to

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Speaker 1: come back. I wonder if that's what you're trying to

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Speaker 1: teach us this morning. Family, you two can get in

2037
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Speaker 1: on this conversation with the Faith Brothers past the Curring Manning,

2038
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Speaker 1: Doctor Jay Edmonds. Just reach out to us. A telephone

2039
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Speaker 1: number is simple. It's eight hundred four five zero seventy

2040
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Speaker 1: eight seventy six and we'll take you a phone calls

2041
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Speaker 1: next and Grin Rising family, thanks for sticking with us

2042
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Speaker 1: on this Wednesday morning here it's a hump day. Eighteen

2043
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Speaker 1: minutes away from the top. They are with the Faith Brothers,

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Speaker 1: doctor j Edmonds, past the Curring Manning before we go

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Speaker 1: back there, and we'll just remind you. Coming up later

2046
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Speaker 1: this morning we speak with sixties activists that William macassa Rismon.

2047
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 1: If you know we marched with doctor King and also

2048
01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:05,320
Speaker 1: stoked the Carmichael back then before it became a Kwami terray.

2049
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Speaker 1: He's going to issue his report on the abduction of

2050
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Speaker 1: Nicholas Madudo from Venezuela and tomorrow we're going to join

2051
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Speaker 1: by a futuristic researcher, Brother Sadeka Bakari. So, if you

2052
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:15,960
Speaker 1: are in Baltimore, make sure you're reading us locked in

2053
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:18,920
Speaker 1: real tight on ten ten WLB. If you're in the Washington,

2054
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:22,960
Speaker 1: DC metropolitan area the DMV, we're on fourteen fifty WOL. Well,

2055
01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:25,800
Speaker 1: just listen to us on the internet and you'll appreciate

2056
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:28,000
Speaker 1: some of the program that we have in store for you.

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to past the current manning, though it's

2058
01:58:31,320 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 1: explain to us what the rapture is, and you also

2059
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:36,800
Speaker 1: talked about the fact that and correct me if I'm

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01:58:36,840 --> 01:58:40,800
Speaker 1: wrong on this one. Past the manning somewhere the people

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Speaker 1: are our relatives who passed down or everybody who passed under.

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Speaker 1: The soul is somewhere in the band, somewhere between here

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Speaker 1: and wherever Heaven is. And whenever God comes back, well

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01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,520
Speaker 1: Jesus comes back, explain that part too. They're all going

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01:58:55,600 --> 01:58:57,400
Speaker 1: to rise up, We're all going to see them again.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm sort of confused about this rapture bit so

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Speaker 1: it help us out.

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Speaker 9: Yet, Yeah, I think it's it's it's it's a point

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Speaker 9: of not only confusion, but more of questioning, like what

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Speaker 9: what's really gonna happen. There's a few different trains of

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01:59:13,960 --> 01:59:18,240
Speaker 9: thought within the Christian perspective as far as where where

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01:59:18,280 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 9: we spend eternity and when we spend eternity, right do

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Speaker 9: are when we die, do we automatically go to heaven?

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Speaker 9: With the Christian perspective teaches for the most part that

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Speaker 9: our souls are are united, you reunited with the Lord

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01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:36,960
Speaker 9: when we die, that he carries his young ones into

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01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:39,400
Speaker 9: his bosom. He you know, he brings in with him.

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Speaker 9: But our bodies are buried. And then and then when

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01:59:43,440 --> 01:59:46,080
Speaker 9: the rapture happens, when the res sec second return of

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01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:50,320
Speaker 9: Christ happens, our bodies will be resurrected as well. And

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01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:52,640
Speaker 9: we will you know, the scripture that says we will

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01:59:52,760 --> 01:59:54,920
Speaker 9: the dead in Christ will rise first meet Christ in

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01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:57,320
Speaker 9: the sky. But the scripture that I was referring to

2084
01:59:57,360 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 9: and John says it all will rise and and it's so.

2085
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Speaker 9: It's eternal life is for everyone. But but as far

2086
02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:09,280
Speaker 9: as as living again after the after life, after life

2087
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Speaker 9: on this earth, that's where many proponents, staunch scientists, they

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Speaker 9: they distanced themselves from that point because many people believe

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Speaker 9: that once you die, it's over, and they live their

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Speaker 9: lives that way as well. But the truth of the

2091
02:00:25,920 --> 02:00:28,720
Speaker 9: scripture is is that no after this earthly tenth, the

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Speaker 9: scripture says, it's destroyed. We've got a house not made

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Speaker 9: with hands. That our souls are with the Lord. And

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02:00:37,200 --> 02:00:39,640
Speaker 9: that's what we have to The main point for me,

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02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:43,240
Speaker 9: even even when it comes to the Book of Revelations,

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02:00:43,360 --> 02:00:46,840
Speaker 9: is we have to reconcile with the Lord now while

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02:00:46,840 --> 02:00:49,920
Speaker 9: we can choose you this day, whom you will serve,

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02:00:50,040 --> 02:00:54,760
Speaker 9: because once these things happen, once you die, there is

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Speaker 9: no need for you know, you have certain groups that

2100
02:00:57,400 --> 02:01:00,720
Speaker 9: pray for the dead. I don't belie the personal Let

2101
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Speaker 9: me just say that I'm not speaking for everyone, but

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Speaker 9: I don't believe personally that there's a need to pray

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Speaker 9: for the dead because they're dead and there their eternal

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02:01:12,120 --> 02:01:17,120
Speaker 9: reward or judgment has has been finalized when we die

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Speaker 9: on this side of of heaven. But we still have

2106
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Speaker 9: to experience afterlife. And the real question that I'm I'm

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Speaker 9: concerned for people and for my community and for everyone

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Speaker 9: that I have an opportunity to to to speak preach

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Speaker 9: the Gospel to is where will you spend eternity? And

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Speaker 9: and the other piece of our faith perspective is, you know,

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Speaker 9: I don't think it's wise for believers to go in

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Speaker 9: on unbelievers in a way that's not redeeming, and it's

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Speaker 9: not coming from a position of love, because you never know.

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Speaker 9: We don't know. I tell people when I do funerals,

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Speaker 9: I tell people I don't have a heaven or hell

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Speaker 9: to put you in. That you have a decision to

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Speaker 9: make where you'll spend eternity. And I think that's important

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Speaker 9: for people to know as we approach life and as

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Speaker 9: we approach death, so everyone will rise. The scripture says,

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Speaker 9: but those who know the Lord, who have reconciled with Christ,

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Speaker 9: given their hearts to the Lord, they will rise to

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Speaker 9: experience eternal life, that's life with Him, what we consider heaven,

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Speaker 9: being in the presence of the Lord forever. And those

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Speaker 9: who have not will rise to experience eternal judgment. And

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Speaker 9: even in the book that the person that wrote in

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Speaker 9: referred to Revelations twenty, if you read it completely, Satan

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Speaker 9: is thrown into the lake of fire and tormented forever

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Speaker 9: and ever. Death is thrown into that same lake. Hell

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Speaker 9: is thrown into that same lake, and that torment is eternal,

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Speaker 9: eternal torment. It's almost you know, if I haven't heard

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Speaker 9: anyone use this phrase aloud, but it's almost like eternal death.

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Speaker 9: You rise, but then you're judged and you're sent to

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Speaker 9: eternal judgment in the Lake of fires. So that's why

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Speaker 9: I'm trying to just just to keep as many people

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Speaker 9: from that lake as I possibly can, as the Lord

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Speaker 9: would allow me to through the message of life and

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Speaker 9: eternity with him. Is what he prepared for us in

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Speaker 9: Matthew twenty five. Heaven was made for those for us

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Speaker 9: so that we can experience with the Lord. Eternal judgment

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Speaker 9: was made for it, as it says there in Revelations

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Speaker 9: for Satan. But when we refuse to accept Christ, then

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Speaker 9: then that becomes our destination as well, and I don't

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Speaker 9: want that for anybody.

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Speaker 1: Twelve away from the top, Yeah, Larry's checking in from Maryland.

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Speaker 1: Has a question for the Faith brother He's online one

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising Larry. You're on with the Faith.

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Speaker 11: Brothers, Grand Rising Brother Cracy. I must call in when

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Speaker 11: I hear these brothers come on, and it's just no disrespect.

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Speaker 11: But at the same time, I just I don't have

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Speaker 11: a question because the question has been asked to you

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Speaker 11: guys before, and either of you have never answered it correctly.

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Speaker 11: One brother said he didn't know. The other brother gave

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Speaker 11: some expedition that was not true at all. My perspective

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Speaker 11: to you guys is the have truth over the real truth.

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Speaker 11: When I speak of the real truth, I speak of

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Speaker 11: the Book of Enoch. I'm never going to let you

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Speaker 11: guys escape with this. In Book one of Enoch in

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Speaker 11: the Ethiopic Bible, it speaks of the true name of

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Speaker 11: God revealed to In the Book of Enoch the twenty

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Speaker 11: first chapter, third verse, it reveals the name revealed to

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Speaker 11: Enoch of God. In the tenth chapter of the Book

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Speaker 11: of Enoch one through three, it reveals the God's name

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Speaker 11: revealed to Enoch the tenth heaven was called Aravos a

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Speaker 11: rah a v t h where God resides. The Hebrew

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Speaker 11: tone of the name of God revealed to Enoch was

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Speaker 11: era that a a rah vat. I've asked this of

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Speaker 11: you before, and you guys have never gave the real

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Speaker 11: truth of that. And it can also be found the

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Speaker 11: name of Enoch in the Book of Enoch the twenty

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Speaker 11: first chapter, in the thirty ninth chapter. So until you

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Speaker 11: guys give the real truth, and I know what it does,

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Speaker 11: it goes against your selling.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me give me a chance to respond, though.

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Speaker 1: I think I race on that all right, Thanks Larry

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Speaker 1: faith Books.

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Speaker 4: Sure, of course you know the same question and the

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Speaker 4: same UH disposition relative to that UH needs to be

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Speaker 4: addressed again. I guess you're bringing out the name Aravat,

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Speaker 4: and the scriptures that you're quoting in the Book of

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Speaker 4: Enoch are relative, but it's not relative to the name specifically.

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Speaker 4: Chapter ten of the Book of Enoch states in verse one,

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Speaker 4: then the Most High, the Great and the Holy One spoke,

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Speaker 4: and he sent Aliah, the son of Lemac, saying, say

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Speaker 4: to him, in my name, conceal yourself. Then explained to

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Speaker 4: him the consummation which is about to take place, for

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Speaker 4: all the earth shall perish.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: The name was given to those who were sent by

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Speaker 4: the Most High, the angels of God, who were sent

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Speaker 4: upon the earth by the Most High. And the names

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Speaker 4: that were mentioned relative to those angels had to do

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Speaker 4: with the very same names that were mentioned also in

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Speaker 4: Revelation relative to the archangel Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, Seiel, Urrea.

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Speaker 4: All of those looked down from heaven, and they saw

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Speaker 4: what was happening in the earth ram itself. But the

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Speaker 4: name itself represent a representation of what the angels referred to,

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Speaker 4: not his name as it relates to his name. He

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Speaker 4: is that which he is. To the Muslims, He's Allah,

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Speaker 4: to those who are in Hinduism, he's Visu or whomever

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Speaker 4: whatever has been a signed to that which cannot be seen.

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Speaker 4: That name is given, but the true name, as one

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Speaker 4: may speak of it in Hebrew itself, Yesah Yashuah, or

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Speaker 4: as he said to Moses, tell him, I am that

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Speaker 4: I am. In other words, I have no name. If

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Speaker 4: you want to call me something, you can, But the

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Speaker 4: fact of the matter is I have no name. I

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Speaker 4: am that I am. And the same representation in Enoch

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Speaker 4: was made because Enoch actually walked with God. That's why

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Speaker 4: he was taken. He was trans he was translated. God

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Speaker 4: took him. That's how close he walked with God. And

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Speaker 4: so I think that the larger point here that need

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Speaker 4: to be brought out in lieu of the castigation should

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Speaker 4: be that there is that which is greater than we are,

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Speaker 4: and we should actually embrace that which leads us to

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Speaker 4: knowing that which is greater than we are. That's that's

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Speaker 4: the that's what is really here.

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Speaker 5: Uh uh.

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Speaker 4: That that is important, particularly now in these days when

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Speaker 4: there's an argument for semantics and the enemy is running

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Speaker 4: rapid Why why spend time arguing over semantics? Can you

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Speaker 4: see what the enemy is doing? When can you you

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Speaker 4: see the lives that are coming forward, that are being accepted,

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Speaker 4: how it is affecting the world, how it is affecting

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Speaker 4: your very neighbor. This is this is by design of

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Speaker 4: the devil. It's by design of the devil to take

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Speaker 4: away that which would prolong life here on this planet geopolitically,

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Speaker 4: to take away the experience that every human being should have,

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Speaker 4: to actually carve out one group and to actually design

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Speaker 4: that which is detrimental to them medically and make it

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Speaker 4: affect them other than rather than.

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Speaker 5: The other way.

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Speaker 4: Where you think this is coming from, Scientists just didn't

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Speaker 4: sit down and create this. This is from the devil

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Speaker 4: and what we're doing, and when we began to have

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Speaker 4: a dispute about names, we are playing right into his hands.

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Speaker 4: In other words, this becomes a shiny object. When there

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Speaker 4: are people who are starving, there are people who are

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Speaker 4: who have no health insurance at this point in time,

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Speaker 4: there are people who are being dispossessed, people who are

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Speaker 4: being regarded less than others. There are tyrants who are

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Speaker 4: taking land, taking oil, taking natural resources. What do you think?

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Speaker 4: Who do you.

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Speaker 5: Think this is?

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Speaker 4: This is the enemy, this is what he's doing. Now,

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Speaker 4: I'll give you something to check out. You go to

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Speaker 4: the Hebrew Testaments, particularly Daniel, and I want you to

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Speaker 4: check out Daniel chapter two and see what was told

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Speaker 4: to Neverknaza when he dreamt. The dream dreamed and he

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Speaker 4: saw an image with a head of gold, and that

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Speaker 4: same image had arms of silver and breasts of silver,

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Speaker 4: and a belly of brass, and thighs of iron, legs

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Speaker 4: of iron, and feet of iron and clay. I want

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Speaker 4: you to check that out. And the interpretation that was

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Speaker 4: given that head of gold represented the Babylonian Empire. Babylonia

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Speaker 4: Empire is gone. That those arms of silver and breast

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Speaker 4: represented the Meat's pursing Empire, it's gone. That belly, which

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Speaker 4: were of brass, represented the Grecian Empire led by Alexander

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Speaker 4: the Great, it's gone. And that those legs of irons

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Speaker 4: represented the Roman Empire. It's gone. The only thing left

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Speaker 4: now per that image is the feet of iron and klay,

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Speaker 4: which will be destroyed by a stone that was cut

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Speaker 4: out of the mountain without hand that stone. What we're

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Speaker 4: living in that age now?

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Speaker 1: And hold I thought right there, doctor Edmunds are going

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Speaker 1: to step aside for a few moments just to identify

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Speaker 1: themselves down the line two minutes away from the top.

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Speaker 1: They are family with the faith brothers. What are your

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Speaker 1: thoughts eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight

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Speaker 1: seventy six, or take a phone calls next for us,

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Speaker 1: because we've just flat out a time. As always, folks

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Speaker 1: wait for the last minute to call in and tweet

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Speaker 1: questions for you. Always happens each and every time you're on.

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Speaker 6: But thank you.

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Speaker 4: Can I leave this with you, okay? I simply want

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Speaker 4: all the listeners to understand this. We always are what

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Speaker 4: you believe. I want you to look around you and

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Speaker 4: see what is actually happening now politically, geopolitically, what is

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Speaker 4: happening socially?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 4: All of this is by design. You know, we talk

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Speaker 4: of each other as a people, a people who are together.

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Speaker 4: When we have mister browner on who's speaking about Timid,

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Speaker 4: who's enlightening us as a people, When we have I

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Speaker 4: can't think of the generalman name who's professor at at

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Speaker 4: one of the universities. They are enlightening us as a people.

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Speaker 4: But I want us to bring all of that in

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Speaker 4: and deal with God's human creation, all of people, and

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02:15:47,440 --> 02:15:54,560
Speaker 4: look at what is happening now. There is in your

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Speaker 4: face presentation of the devil that's saying, this is what

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Speaker 4: I'm doing, and these are the ones whom I am corrupting,

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Speaker 4: and this is what I want to do still kill

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Speaker 4: and destroy. Now, I want you to look at that,

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Speaker 4: and I want you to examine that very carefully. Regardless

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02:16:17,800 --> 02:16:21,520
Speaker 4: of what you believe. I want you to know that

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02:16:21,600 --> 02:16:25,880
Speaker 4: there's a force behind what is happening now that is

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Speaker 4: directed directly at God's human creation to destroy God's human creation.

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Speaker 4: That means all of us, all of us. I want

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Speaker 4: you to consider that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Wow, doctor left, there's something to think about.

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Speaker 1: But doctor Edvans, how can folks reach you?

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Speaker 4: The Edmunds Group at gmail dot com, the Edmunds Group

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Speaker 4: Global I'm sorry at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 9: And Pastor Manning, Yes, Pastor Kerwin K E. R I

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Speaker 9: in at Pasadena Church dot com. But you could just

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Speaker 9: go to the church site and get to me as well.

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Speaker 9: Just Pasadena Church dot com, Facebook, YouTube as well and

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Speaker 9: thank you doctor Admins. Thank you brother Carl for just

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Speaker 9: your support over this past year. As I I've got

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Speaker 9: several events I'm attending this week to commemorate the fire

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Speaker 9: and just to continue to do the work. So I

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Speaker 9: just covered your prayers and your support. Thank you guys

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Speaker 9: so much.

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Speaker 1: Oh, thank you Pastor Manning. And still folks who want

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Speaker 1: to donate, where do they go to help you with

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Speaker 1: brothers and sisters out now to Dina Pasadena area.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Pasadena church dot com. The eaton Fire tab will

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Speaker 9: take you that and everything that goes through that donation

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Speaker 9: portal will go directly to those impacted by the fires.

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Speaker 9: And that's my commitment to anyone who gives and supports us.

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Speaker 1: All righty, thank you, thank you, Forellisten, thank you for

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Speaker 1: sharing the information. Happy new year again and we'll do

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Speaker 1: this again.

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Speaker 4: Shortly, Yes, I thank you all right, start you.

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Speaker 1: Jem past the current man. Let's turn our attention now

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Speaker 1: to brother Willie Rix a sixties activists William Maccossa rix

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Speaker 1: Grand Rise in African welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, my African brother, and thank you all the

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Speaker 5: African people that can hear my voice.

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Speaker 1: That's right, you know, just moments ago, I just got

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Speaker 1: some news that Donald Trump has seized the Russian flagged

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Speaker 1: oil tanker in the Atlantic. So the why need this,

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Speaker 1: this the scope of taking over this what you would

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Speaker 1: probably term as imperialism. I want you to get your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on that, and of course the abduction of Nicholas Maduro,

2335
02:18:38,240 --> 02:18:40,439
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that, brother Willy rix.

2336
02:18:41,200 --> 02:18:46,360
Speaker 5: Well, Venezuela and the whole South and Central Miracle is

2337
02:18:46,400 --> 02:18:51,840
Speaker 5: at war, and that it's clear that Venezuela is a

2338
02:18:51,920 --> 02:19:01,360
Speaker 5: very rich country, and that Cuba and Nico Rogo and

2339
02:19:01,520 --> 02:19:08,000
Speaker 5: Brazil and those countries have resources. And the United States,

2340
02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:14,000
Speaker 5: which is not America, it's a small country in the Americas,

2341
02:19:14,600 --> 02:19:19,800
Speaker 5: want to dominate the whole Americas and they want people

2342
02:19:19,840 --> 02:19:22,840
Speaker 5: to think that the United States is America. But the

2343
02:19:22,920 --> 02:19:26,760
Speaker 5: United States is a small place in North America. And

2344
02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:33,560
Speaker 5: they have militarized the United States. And the forces in

2345
02:19:33,600 --> 02:19:39,000
Speaker 5: the United States came from Europe, and that they come

2346
02:19:39,080 --> 02:19:45,640
Speaker 5: here and they have committed genocide on Indigitus people that's here,

2347
02:19:46,320 --> 02:19:49,680
Speaker 5: and they committed genocide on the so called Indians that

2348
02:19:49,840 --> 02:19:54,960
Speaker 5: was here, and they committed genocide throughout Central and South America.

2349
02:19:55,879 --> 02:19:59,160
Speaker 5: And they want to dominate it and be rich off

2350
02:19:59,200 --> 02:20:05,840
Speaker 5: of somebody else us resources. Now we look at Venezuela.

2351
02:20:06,680 --> 02:20:11,760
Speaker 5: They had broke away from the imperialists and set up

2352
02:20:11,840 --> 02:20:16,959
Speaker 5: a socialist nation, and uh when they slipped their nation up,

2353
02:20:17,600 --> 02:20:24,279
Speaker 5: they'd say everybody in the country had ownership of those resources.

2354
02:20:25,000 --> 02:20:30,680
Speaker 5: And Venezuela built tens of thousands of houses for the

2355
02:20:30,720 --> 02:20:35,720
Speaker 5: poor homeless and gave it to them pre they gave

2356
02:20:35,760 --> 02:20:41,240
Speaker 5: it people gas for a nickel gathering, and they gave

2357
02:20:41,320 --> 02:20:49,240
Speaker 5: away uh tank gads where different nations to fund can

2358
02:20:49,480 --> 02:20:54,560
Speaker 5: give lights and gas and whatever those kind things like

2359
02:20:54,680 --> 02:20:58,120
Speaker 5: Chris or whatever to their people. And they even gave

2360
02:20:58,160 --> 02:21:01,680
Speaker 5: it to places right here in the United States. And

2361
02:21:01,920 --> 02:21:06,760
Speaker 5: they had Sitco gas station throughout the world, and the

2362
02:21:06,879 --> 02:21:13,520
Speaker 5: United States took them over and froze all the hundreds

2363
02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:18,920
Speaker 5: of billions of dollars that's in the banks worldwide, hundreds

2364
02:21:18,959 --> 02:21:22,800
Speaker 5: of billions of dollars and froze it. And they're trying

2365
02:21:22,840 --> 02:21:27,120
Speaker 5: to break the country down. Whether the country will starved,

2366
02:21:27,240 --> 02:21:32,200
Speaker 5: go home good and the people will go crazy and

2367
02:21:32,440 --> 02:21:36,920
Speaker 5: fight in the streets against the government because their home

2368
02:21:36,959 --> 02:21:41,520
Speaker 5: grid can't get medicine, can't get lighte gas, water or

2369
02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:47,000
Speaker 5: what have you. And that's why the United States cut

2370
02:21:47,040 --> 02:21:57,400
Speaker 5: the tanks that was going to Cuba and Iran, because

2371
02:21:57,440 --> 02:22:01,840
Speaker 5: they're trying to freeze and destroy the men and make

2372
02:22:01,920 --> 02:22:05,440
Speaker 5: it where they can't feed and clothe their people and

2373
02:22:05,560 --> 02:22:09,320
Speaker 5: force the people into the streets to fight against the government.

2374
02:22:09,920 --> 02:22:13,080
Speaker 5: And that's what they're doing that I ran today. They're

2375
02:22:13,200 --> 02:22:19,880
Speaker 5: waging war, economic war, and starvation is a weapon that

2376
02:22:19,959 --> 02:22:20,640
Speaker 5: they're using.

2377
02:22:21,840 --> 02:22:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me jump me half for a second way

2378
02:22:24,800 --> 02:22:27,160
Speaker 1: World war. Yeah, let me jump here for a second

2379
02:22:27,160 --> 02:22:28,840
Speaker 1: fifteen after the top of the our family, I guess

2380
02:22:28,840 --> 02:22:31,680
Speaker 1: it's William Accossa rix It's the sixties Activisty marched with

2381
02:22:31,800 --> 02:22:35,280
Speaker 1: doctor King and also Stokely Carmichael before he became kwame

2382
02:22:35,400 --> 02:22:37,720
Speaker 1: to Ray and he was there around they started the

2383
02:22:37,720 --> 02:22:41,039
Speaker 1: Black Power, clinched Fish and all of that. He was

2384
02:22:41,080 --> 02:22:43,800
Speaker 1: behind all of that and those movements back then. The

2385
02:22:43,879 --> 02:22:48,440
Speaker 1: struggle today seems international. Brother Willie Rixon, are you seeing

2386
02:22:48,760 --> 02:22:51,000
Speaker 1: the pastors talked about basically imply that we're in the

2387
02:22:51,040 --> 02:22:53,480
Speaker 1: last days? Do you agree we're in the last days?

2388
02:22:53,520 --> 02:22:56,280
Speaker 1: If so, what what what do we do? What's in

2389
02:22:56,320 --> 02:22:58,240
Speaker 1: their last days?

2390
02:22:58,280 --> 02:23:01,960
Speaker 5: We're not in our last day? We going nowhere? The

2391
02:23:02,080 --> 02:23:08,000
Speaker 5: capitalist inperiless is the devil. Imperialism is satan, not Satan

2392
02:23:08,080 --> 02:23:12,240
Speaker 5: in the ground. They're are Satan, and they're anti people.

2393
02:23:13,040 --> 02:23:19,160
Speaker 5: They're anti light, gas, water, food, medicine, anti education, and

2394
02:23:19,240 --> 02:23:22,279
Speaker 5: they have to be wiped off the face of the earth.

2395
02:23:22,760 --> 02:23:27,080
Speaker 5: And they're destroying the whole world. And anybody they can't control,

2396
02:23:27,200 --> 02:23:30,320
Speaker 5: or any group of nation they can't control, they drop

2397
02:23:30,400 --> 02:23:34,959
Speaker 5: bombs on them and destroying. Now, going back, you mentioned

2398
02:23:35,000 --> 02:23:39,359
Speaker 5: Martin Luther King. When Martin Luther King spoke out against

2399
02:23:39,360 --> 02:23:43,720
Speaker 5: the war in Vietnam, that's when they decided to kill him.

2400
02:23:44,200 --> 02:23:46,720
Speaker 5: He spoke out against the war on April four of

2401
02:23:46,800 --> 02:23:51,200
Speaker 5: nineteen six to seven, and then on the anniversary of

2402
02:23:51,240 --> 02:23:54,760
Speaker 5: that April four of nineteen sixty eight, that's when the

2403
02:23:54,840 --> 02:23:59,440
Speaker 5: United States FBI, United States government killed Martin Luther King.

2404
02:24:00,320 --> 02:24:04,920
Speaker 5: Malcolm tried to even work at your internationalize the revolution,

2405
02:24:05,480 --> 02:24:10,920
Speaker 5: telling us about the Congo and how the United States

2406
02:24:10,959 --> 02:24:14,640
Speaker 5: had and all the European nations of Belgium had killed

2407
02:24:14,760 --> 02:24:18,760
Speaker 5: millions of people in the Congo, made them work, and

2408
02:24:18,840 --> 02:24:21,320
Speaker 5: if they didn't work hard enough, they cut their hands,

2409
02:24:21,400 --> 02:24:25,000
Speaker 5: their ears off, and cut the whole family's feet off.

2410
02:24:25,080 --> 02:24:27,520
Speaker 5: Hands and feet off if you didn't go out and

2411
02:24:27,560 --> 02:24:31,440
Speaker 5: work hard enough for the slave master. And this process

2412
02:24:31,520 --> 02:24:34,879
Speaker 5: is still going on in the Congo and then the Congo.

2413
02:24:37,240 --> 02:24:42,640
Speaker 5: All the possession of this cell phone and electronics that

2414
02:24:42,720 --> 02:24:47,800
Speaker 5: we used today, even in our cars, house, refeederator, airplanes,

2415
02:24:48,640 --> 02:24:52,680
Speaker 5: all our drones that they're using, all of that come

2416
02:24:52,760 --> 02:24:57,800
Speaker 5: from the Congo or come from Africa. And they'll drop

2417
02:24:57,920 --> 02:24:59,160
Speaker 5: right right there.

2418
02:25:00,120 --> 02:25:01,760
Speaker 1: Willi Rix, we gotta step aside for a few once

2419
02:25:01,840 --> 02:25:03,480
Speaker 1: we come back, I want you to expound on that

2420
02:25:03,520 --> 02:25:05,680
Speaker 1: and also tells what's gone this Hell Nations. But also

2421
02:25:05,720 --> 02:25:07,360
Speaker 1: once you roll back the clock a little big for

2422
02:25:07,440 --> 02:25:10,480
Speaker 1: the sixties, when you have these conversations with doctor King

2423
02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:15,200
Speaker 1: and Kwameter Ray Stokely did whose decision was it to

2424
02:25:15,280 --> 02:25:18,039
Speaker 1: make it international? Was was it? Did you have to

2425
02:25:18,120 --> 02:25:21,560
Speaker 1: coax Doctor King? Stokely had to say, this is the

2426
02:25:21,560 --> 02:25:23,800
Speaker 1: fighter is not just on the state side, but the

2427
02:25:23,800 --> 02:25:26,840
Speaker 1: fighter is international. I want to hear about that as well. Family,

2428
02:25:26,879 --> 02:25:29,240
Speaker 1: you two can join our discussion with brother Willie Ricks

2429
02:25:29,640 --> 02:25:32,000
Speaker 1: Macossa Ris reach out to us at eight hundred four

2430
02:25:32,000 --> 02:25:34,680
Speaker 1: to five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take

2431
02:25:34,680 --> 02:25:37,760
Speaker 1: a phone calls next and grind rising family. Thanks sticking

2432
02:25:37,800 --> 02:25:39,680
Speaker 1: with us on this Wednesday morning. It's a hump day.

2433
02:25:39,720 --> 02:25:41,800
Speaker 1: We're halfway through the workweek with our guest to William

2434
02:25:41,800 --> 02:25:44,800
Speaker 1: Macossa ricks brother, William Maccossa Ricks, he was a member

2435
02:25:44,840 --> 02:25:47,920
Speaker 1: of the Snake Marsh along with Doctor King, Kwameter Ray,

2436
02:25:48,480 --> 02:25:51,320
Speaker 1: John Lewis, Marion Barry. He was part of those groups.

2437
02:25:51,320 --> 02:25:53,800
Speaker 1: There were young bucks right back then. And my question

2438
02:25:53,879 --> 02:25:57,720
Speaker 1: to him before was when Doctor King decided to take

2439
02:25:57,720 --> 02:25:59,880
Speaker 1: on the Vietnam war, shit, that's why they took him.

2440
02:26:00,600 --> 02:26:03,039
Speaker 1: Did you guys have to convince him to take this

2441
02:26:03,240 --> 02:26:05,920
Speaker 1: make the struggle international or is it something that he

2442
02:26:06,520 --> 02:26:09,000
Speaker 1: was already discussing, was waiting for the right time to

2443
02:26:09,040 --> 02:26:09,320
Speaker 1: do it.

2444
02:26:10,120 --> 02:26:14,720
Speaker 5: Well, Snick pretty much educated because when snicko when they

2445
02:26:14,840 --> 02:26:18,400
Speaker 5: killed h when our workers in Tuskei for going into

2446
02:26:18,400 --> 02:26:21,920
Speaker 5: a bathroom, and said, right, only semi young junior and

2447
02:26:22,040 --> 02:26:24,800
Speaker 5: he had been in the navy, and Snick used that

2448
02:26:24,879 --> 02:26:28,480
Speaker 5: as to kick him an off board to speak out

2449
02:26:28,480 --> 02:26:32,560
Speaker 5: against the war in Vietnam. And Snick said that if

2450
02:26:32,560 --> 02:26:35,240
Speaker 5: we can go and fight in a war in Vietnam,

2451
02:26:35,360 --> 02:26:38,440
Speaker 5: fight in the army, but the United States government and

2452
02:26:38,560 --> 02:26:40,879
Speaker 5: come back and can't Piers in the bathroom behind a

2453
02:26:40,879 --> 02:26:45,879
Speaker 5: white man. We don't have no business in the army. Therefore,

2454
02:26:45,959 --> 02:26:49,640
Speaker 5: we opposed the war in Vietnam, and we opposed the

2455
02:26:49,640 --> 02:26:54,080
Speaker 5: war in Vietnam. The top civil rights groups, all of

2456
02:26:54,120 --> 02:26:57,720
Speaker 5: them criticized Snick and said that we were getting out

2457
02:26:57,760 --> 02:27:02,400
Speaker 5: of our raide from civil rights. And that shortly after then,

2458
02:27:03,879 --> 02:27:08,000
Speaker 5: thousands of people, tens of thousands, millions of people took

2459
02:27:08,080 --> 02:27:11,520
Speaker 5: to the streets and started marching and fighting against the

2460
02:27:11,560 --> 02:27:15,760
Speaker 5: war in Vietnam. And that during that time rebellions broke

2461
02:27:15,800 --> 02:27:18,400
Speaker 5: out and they were and we were our people in

2462
02:27:18,440 --> 02:27:22,520
Speaker 5: the streets saying black power and fighting America and that.

2463
02:27:23,480 --> 02:27:28,320
Speaker 5: But we forced Doctor King had to make a decision

2464
02:27:29,320 --> 02:27:34,560
Speaker 5: either speak out against the war in Vietnam, U talk

2465
02:27:35,200 --> 02:27:39,000
Speaker 5: be on America side, and that people put icize Doctor King,

2466
02:27:39,160 --> 02:27:42,840
Speaker 5: but not streaking out. Sooner, the Doctor King broke out

2467
02:27:43,480 --> 02:27:48,119
Speaker 5: and he became a great voice against the war in Vietnam.

2468
02:27:48,680 --> 02:27:50,680
Speaker 5: But now only do you speak out against the war

2469
02:27:50,760 --> 02:27:54,800
Speaker 5: in Vietnam. He spoke out against America and what they

2470
02:27:54,840 --> 02:27:58,360
Speaker 5: were doing, the United States of America for what they

2471
02:27:58,360 --> 02:28:02,920
Speaker 5: were doing around the world. And Doctor King now come

2472
02:28:03,000 --> 02:28:07,120
Speaker 5: to call the United States the greatest terrorist nation in

2473
02:28:07,160 --> 02:28:12,440
Speaker 5: the world, and the greatest proparsion of what's the word

2474
02:28:12,440 --> 02:28:16,039
Speaker 5: I'm looking for of violence in the world, and that

2475
02:28:16,160 --> 02:28:20,320
Speaker 5: he condemned America and he talked about America come down.

2476
02:28:20,879 --> 02:28:24,280
Speaker 5: So doctor King spoke out against it. But early on,

2477
02:28:25,200 --> 02:28:30,480
Speaker 5: remember the struggle had been international from the gent because

2478
02:28:31,320 --> 02:28:34,120
Speaker 5: when the Europeans got on them boats and saw it

2479
02:28:34,200 --> 02:28:37,920
Speaker 5: traveling around the world, killing, murder and stealing people's aim,

2480
02:28:38,000 --> 02:28:41,840
Speaker 5: that's international. And when they went to Africa and killed

2481
02:28:41,920 --> 02:28:44,959
Speaker 5: us and put us on slave ships, slaves of Jesus

2482
02:28:44,959 --> 02:28:50,280
Speaker 5: and the rest of those ships, that's international. And when

2483
02:28:51,720 --> 02:28:56,520
Speaker 5: our brothers and hated defeated the French two hundred and

2484
02:28:56,560 --> 02:29:01,560
Speaker 5: fifty years during twenty five years ago, that was international.

2485
02:29:02,040 --> 02:29:04,760
Speaker 5: But and and UH twuc sons looked too over to

2486
02:29:04,920 --> 02:29:08,760
Speaker 5: over to it, and those brothers and sisters they defeated

2487
02:29:08,840 --> 02:29:12,640
Speaker 5: the French. And two hundred years later, the United States

2488
02:29:12,680 --> 02:29:17,240
Speaker 5: is still dropping bombs on France, on on UH, on Hayden.

2489
02:29:17,920 --> 02:29:21,560
Speaker 5: And so the struggle is international, and that we have

2490
02:29:21,680 --> 02:29:25,240
Speaker 5: to support UH. They're going from one nation to the

2491
02:29:25,280 --> 02:29:28,800
Speaker 5: next nation and dropping bombs on them, and there there's

2492
02:29:28,840 --> 02:29:32,000
Speaker 5: a warmonger. It's a world war in Africa they've been

2493
02:29:32,080 --> 02:29:37,080
Speaker 5: dropping bombs on Somalia, on yamen Uh, in the Congo

2494
02:29:37,920 --> 02:29:40,920
Speaker 5: Uh and and now you see what they're doing in

2495
02:29:41,120 --> 02:29:44,840
Speaker 5: Uh in the middle of Africa. All of them drop

2496
02:29:44,879 --> 02:29:49,039
Speaker 5: bombs on Africa. Clan drop bombs on Africa. Obama dropped

2497
02:29:49,080 --> 02:29:52,480
Speaker 5: tons of bombs on Africa and that. So this is

2498
02:29:52,520 --> 02:29:56,080
Speaker 5: what they do around the world. Any voice and speak out.

2499
02:29:56,080 --> 02:29:59,760
Speaker 5: When Doctor k spoke out against the Void war in Vietnam,

2500
02:30:00,200 --> 02:30:02,400
Speaker 5: that's when they made the decision we're going to kill

2501
02:30:02,480 --> 02:30:05,959
Speaker 5: him because he now sounded like America X or Marcus

2502
02:30:06,000 --> 02:30:09,400
Speaker 5: Goby and they didn't want nobody to have that kind

2503
02:30:09,440 --> 02:30:12,840
Speaker 5: of a voice and influence that could wake up black

2504
02:30:12,840 --> 02:30:15,879
Speaker 5: people or wake up African people world wide and be

2505
02:30:15,959 --> 02:30:18,520
Speaker 5: a voice of black people, be a bosice of African

2506
02:30:18,560 --> 02:30:21,640
Speaker 5: people world wide. So that's when the United States government

2507
02:30:21,959 --> 02:30:28,360
Speaker 5: made this decision to kill doctor King. Enberca say that

2508
02:30:28,560 --> 02:30:32,560
Speaker 5: you can't understand what's going on in Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia,

2509
02:30:32,720 --> 02:30:35,879
Speaker 5: all the United States unless you understand what they're doing

2510
02:30:35,920 --> 02:30:42,200
Speaker 5: in Venezuela, Nico rober El, Sarvador Buendemara, the Congo, Egypt,

2511
02:30:43,120 --> 02:30:46,440
Speaker 5: and the Palestine and throughout the world. So if you

2512
02:30:46,480 --> 02:30:49,200
Speaker 5: look to see what they're doing in Palestine, you know

2513
02:30:49,240 --> 02:30:51,879
Speaker 5: what they're doing right here in the United States to

2514
02:30:52,000 --> 02:30:56,240
Speaker 5: us otherwise we had an international war. The United States

2515
02:30:56,320 --> 02:31:00,960
Speaker 5: is a criminal nation. Democrats and republics, all of them

2516
02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:07,120
Speaker 5: are in the same bed, and they create brainwish Africans,

2517
02:31:07,200 --> 02:31:11,039
Speaker 5: black people, and these people are killers and murderers, and

2518
02:31:11,080 --> 02:31:14,480
Speaker 5: they're in our schools, the cluing our children, feeding them

2519
02:31:14,520 --> 02:31:17,160
Speaker 5: a bunch of live putting them in the army, to

2520
02:31:17,320 --> 02:31:20,840
Speaker 5: send them to Africa, to send them to Venezuela, to

2521
02:31:20,920 --> 02:31:24,560
Speaker 5: send them to other parts of the world, to fight

2522
02:31:24,640 --> 02:31:27,080
Speaker 5: for Donald Trump, a fight for the United States, a

2523
02:31:27,120 --> 02:31:30,720
Speaker 5: fight for imperialism, and kill their own people. We need

2524
02:31:30,760 --> 02:31:33,000
Speaker 5: a movement to run them out of our schools. They

2525
02:31:33,080 --> 02:31:36,680
Speaker 5: in our junior high schools then and took over Howard University.

2526
02:31:36,720 --> 02:31:41,080
Speaker 5: It's a military operations. Children walking around with college, senior

2527
02:31:41,160 --> 02:31:43,879
Speaker 5: children to college. Now they walk around in our high

2528
02:31:43,879 --> 02:31:47,480
Speaker 5: school they walking around in army uniforms. We need to

2529
02:31:47,520 --> 02:31:50,480
Speaker 5: get together and run them off of these campuses, and

2530
02:31:50,600 --> 02:31:52,800
Speaker 5: we need to take to the streets in the world

2531
02:31:53,240 --> 02:31:57,840
Speaker 5: and demand that they're in the war and through our

2532
02:31:57,959 --> 02:32:01,440
Speaker 5: South America. Stop dropping all these bombs around the world,

2533
02:32:01,840 --> 02:32:05,200
Speaker 5: and we need to disrupt the United States and stop

2534
02:32:05,280 --> 02:32:09,400
Speaker 5: there from doing it, and all like that. These are

2535
02:32:09,440 --> 02:32:13,160
Speaker 5: coming from These are coming from somebody bigger than Trump.

2536
02:32:13,240 --> 02:32:16,040
Speaker 5: It's coming from the imperialists.

2537
02:32:16,000 --> 02:32:18,480
Speaker 1: Right hold, I thought there Willie the twenty nine minutes

2538
02:32:18,480 --> 02:32:21,400
Speaker 1: off the top of our family hearing a voice unvarnished

2539
02:32:22,200 --> 02:32:28,160
Speaker 1: response from Willie macassa Ricks, straight up African coming to you,

2540
02:32:28,200 --> 02:32:30,600
Speaker 1: no chaser this morning, and what's going on in the world.

2541
02:32:30,879 --> 02:32:33,240
Speaker 1: But Willie Macossa Ricks help us out? What's how many

2542
02:32:33,320 --> 02:32:35,720
Speaker 1: the Sahale nations that these hell nations are trying to

2543
02:32:35,720 --> 02:32:38,000
Speaker 1: get their freedom from France. And I heard that there

2544
02:32:38,040 --> 02:32:41,480
Speaker 1: was a reported attempted cool. Can you confirm that.

2545
02:32:42,240 --> 02:32:45,320
Speaker 5: Yes, they tried together them France. They ain't don't never

2546
02:32:45,360 --> 02:32:47,640
Speaker 5: stop trying to kill them. They got they planning to

2547
02:32:47,720 --> 02:32:50,440
Speaker 5: drop bombs on them right now. And that's what United

2548
02:32:50,480 --> 02:32:52,480
Speaker 5: States plaining doing. That's what they said they're gonna do,

2549
02:32:52,840 --> 02:32:55,600
Speaker 5: and that read they get fighting. Venezuela and Niswell is

2550
02:32:55,600 --> 02:33:02,000
Speaker 5: one of the main supporters of the nations and Cuba.

2551
02:33:02,440 --> 02:33:04,640
Speaker 5: Cuba gave nine hours and show them how to beat

2552
02:33:04,720 --> 02:33:08,080
Speaker 5: men and warriors and take control of your natural resources.

2553
02:33:08,120 --> 02:33:12,000
Speaker 5: Don't be bullied by the United States and other forces Russia.

2554
02:33:12,360 --> 02:33:16,520
Speaker 5: Russia gave them so many, so much material to building

2555
02:33:16,600 --> 02:33:19,680
Speaker 5: as I'm talking about heavy equipment where they can be

2556
02:33:19,800 --> 02:33:23,600
Speaker 5: a rose and houses and all kinds of faith Russia's

2557
02:33:23,640 --> 02:33:26,640
Speaker 5: doing that, give them them busters for transportation and all

2558
02:33:26,760 --> 02:33:29,000
Speaker 5: that kind of faith. Where the United States want to

2559
02:33:29,040 --> 02:33:32,840
Speaker 5: go in there and rapid rob it for all its diamonds,

2560
02:33:32,840 --> 02:33:36,200
Speaker 5: its gold, and it's full of gold. Nations are full

2561
02:33:36,240 --> 02:33:38,360
Speaker 5: of gold. And the United States want to go in

2562
02:33:38,360 --> 02:33:42,080
Speaker 5: there and rob in France, Britain, Germany and commit genocide

2563
02:33:42,120 --> 02:33:44,760
Speaker 5: on them and leave them where they won't have a tarlet,

2564
02:33:44,840 --> 02:33:48,160
Speaker 5: won't have a clean drop of water, and we won't

2565
02:33:48,160 --> 02:33:51,240
Speaker 5: have medicine and those kinds of saying. My son just

2566
02:33:51,280 --> 02:33:55,840
Speaker 5: took a delegation of doctors to dinner by South and

2567
02:33:56,760 --> 02:33:59,120
Speaker 5: about one hundred of them, close to one hundred, and

2568
02:33:59,160 --> 02:34:02,119
Speaker 5: they went over there, united with the Cuban medical school

2569
02:34:02,160 --> 02:34:04,280
Speaker 5: that they have that Cuba set up in the beginning

2570
02:34:04,280 --> 02:34:07,960
Speaker 5: of the South, and they went to an island where

2571
02:34:08,040 --> 02:34:11,440
Speaker 5: people never seen doctors before, and everybody out there had

2572
02:34:11,520 --> 02:34:15,640
Speaker 5: some kind of diarrhea, drinking muddy water and all kinds

2573
02:34:15,640 --> 02:34:18,160
Speaker 5: of other sickness that they went out there and tried

2574
02:34:18,200 --> 02:34:22,000
Speaker 5: to work on. So I'm saying that these people are

2575
02:34:22,040 --> 02:34:25,960
Speaker 5: nothing but rippers and robbers and murderers, and they made

2576
02:34:26,080 --> 02:34:30,080
Speaker 5: player that everybody else putting money trying to feed their people,

2577
02:34:30,160 --> 02:34:33,320
Speaker 5: give them medicine, lights, gas water and all that. In

2578
02:34:33,360 --> 02:34:35,840
Speaker 5: the United States giving all their money to the military,

2579
02:34:36,000 --> 02:34:39,600
Speaker 5: bomb making bombs and mobims and mobims, and they think

2580
02:34:39,640 --> 02:34:42,280
Speaker 5: they can bully it. But Venezuela is one of the

2581
02:34:42,400 --> 02:34:47,480
Speaker 5: main supporters of the Sahara nations. Nico roval Cuba, Russia,

2582
02:34:48,000 --> 02:34:51,520
Speaker 5: China and all the socialist nations in the world are

2583
02:34:51,600 --> 02:34:54,360
Speaker 5: supporting those nations. That's why they want to go to

2584
02:34:54,600 --> 02:34:56,960
Speaker 5: every one of them and kill them. And they want

2585
02:34:57,000 --> 02:35:00,600
Speaker 5: to kill their support network where they can't survive and

2586
02:35:00,680 --> 02:35:05,440
Speaker 5: do what they're trying to do. So right the Republica,

2587
02:35:05,560 --> 02:35:08,720
Speaker 5: they ain't gonna correct nothing that Donald Trump do. Donald

2588
02:35:08,760 --> 02:35:12,360
Speaker 5: Trump is part of the imperist power and don't care

2589
02:35:12,400 --> 02:35:15,879
Speaker 5: who become the president. They can look black Obama, he

2590
02:35:16,040 --> 02:35:18,920
Speaker 5: dropped mobobs and he did the same thing they're doing

2591
02:35:18,959 --> 02:35:20,520
Speaker 5: in Venezuela.

2592
02:35:22,360 --> 02:35:25,600
Speaker 1: They got some folks want to talk to you, So yeah,

2593
02:35:25,640 --> 02:35:27,160
Speaker 1: hold up Thord there, We've got some people want to

2594
02:35:27,200 --> 02:35:29,119
Speaker 1: talk to you, got questions for your twenty nine minutes

2595
02:35:29,120 --> 02:35:31,039
Speaker 1: away from the top. Their money MIC's are reaching out

2596
02:35:31,040 --> 02:35:34,199
Speaker 1: to us. He's calling from Baltimore's online two Grand Rising

2597
02:35:34,240 --> 02:35:35,600
Speaker 1: Money Mike. You're on with Billy Rix.

2598
02:35:37,600 --> 02:35:39,600
Speaker 4: Good morning, Carl, Good morning, mister Willing.

2599
02:35:39,840 --> 02:35:44,640
Speaker 12: Look the US. Well, yes, sir, if he's professor, you

2600
02:35:44,760 --> 02:35:49,280
Speaker 12: said that the US poses economic sanctions on on Venezuela

2601
02:35:49,440 --> 02:35:53,000
Speaker 12: and other countries to bank RUFBRILM, to cause chaos in

2602
02:35:53,040 --> 02:35:55,520
Speaker 12: the streets, to make them ride to overthrow the government.

2603
02:35:55,800 --> 02:35:59,160
Speaker 12: Why haven't all the black political leaders, our black clergy leaders,

2604
02:35:59,280 --> 02:36:03,000
Speaker 12: Why haven't they encourage us to pull to use economic

2605
02:36:03,080 --> 02:36:06,560
Speaker 12: sanctions here in America to make the America address the

2606
02:36:06,600 --> 02:36:09,240
Speaker 12: black the black needs. Why haven't they done it?

2607
02:36:10,440 --> 02:36:13,119
Speaker 5: Because they set up by the United States, They controlled

2608
02:36:13,120 --> 02:36:15,959
Speaker 5: by the United States government, and their job to do

2609
02:36:16,040 --> 02:36:19,119
Speaker 5: nothing but spread confusion, tell us to wait and wait

2610
02:36:19,160 --> 02:36:21,680
Speaker 5: and wait and wait and do nothing. And they work

2611
02:36:21,760 --> 02:36:25,359
Speaker 5: their neo colonialists, and they're nothing but puppets of the system.

2612
02:36:25,680 --> 02:36:28,879
Speaker 5: The so called educated folks. They go and get a

2613
02:36:29,040 --> 02:36:31,760
Speaker 5: rememorized and stuff the white folks tell them to do

2614
02:36:31,840 --> 02:36:34,240
Speaker 5: on some paper, and then the white men call them

2615
02:36:34,280 --> 02:36:37,920
Speaker 5: doctors go and memorize some white folks book and then

2616
02:36:38,000 --> 02:36:40,280
Speaker 5: they call them reverends and they go out and do

2617
02:36:40,320 --> 02:36:43,680
Speaker 5: nothing but spread confusion and tell us to wait and

2618
02:36:43,720 --> 02:36:46,800
Speaker 5: it's gonna and what's gonna come and all that. So

2619
02:36:46,879 --> 02:36:50,360
Speaker 5: these people are puppished for the system and we need

2620
02:36:50,360 --> 02:36:54,600
Speaker 5: to uh, they never did do nothing. Never And at

2621
02:36:54,640 --> 02:36:58,960
Speaker 5: our job that we watching people like madco X Marcus Gobby,

2622
02:36:59,400 --> 02:37:03,560
Speaker 5: Black Panther, the Black Power Movement and the Sahara Nation,

2623
02:37:03,760 --> 02:37:08,520
Speaker 5: people like Pidel canstro Chega Van Lamon in the Congo

2624
02:37:08,959 --> 02:37:12,120
Speaker 5: and many many other freedom fighters that's around the world.

2625
02:37:12,440 --> 02:37:15,600
Speaker 5: They're the ones that educate our people. They're the ones

2626
02:37:15,640 --> 02:37:17,840
Speaker 5: that teach our people, and they're the ones that called

2627
02:37:17,920 --> 02:37:21,320
Speaker 5: out imperialism and they're the ones that picking up guns

2628
02:37:21,520 --> 02:37:25,120
Speaker 5: and saying we will fight for our freedom and liberation.

2629
02:37:25,600 --> 02:37:28,120
Speaker 5: And that the most important. We got to educate our

2630
02:37:28,160 --> 02:37:31,400
Speaker 5: people because these people that they have out here now

2631
02:37:31,400 --> 02:37:33,600
Speaker 5: are trying to put them to sleep. Just like the

2632
02:37:33,720 --> 02:37:39,240
Speaker 5: Kenyan government, for France and the United States had the

2633
02:37:39,320 --> 02:37:42,480
Speaker 5: Kenyan government to send troops to hate it to drop

2634
02:37:42,560 --> 02:37:46,240
Speaker 5: bombs on and bomb the Haitian people because they still

2635
02:37:46,320 --> 02:37:49,360
Speaker 5: fighting to get free. They got black troops from Hated

2636
02:37:49,480 --> 02:37:55,160
Speaker 5: from Kenya in Hated fighting against the revolution and their

2637
02:37:55,320 --> 02:37:59,879
Speaker 5: men in the iriy coasts. They're fighting against the Sahara nations.

2638
02:38:00,320 --> 02:38:04,039
Speaker 5: H and many are anybody that's dealing with the United State.

2639
02:38:04,120 --> 02:38:07,360
Speaker 5: The United States got forty different armies in Africa, and

2640
02:38:07,400 --> 02:38:10,080
Speaker 5: they look black like me and you, and they're carrying

2641
02:38:10,120 --> 02:38:13,680
Speaker 5: guns and taking orders from the United States. And they're

2642
02:38:13,720 --> 02:38:15,760
Speaker 5: doing this all over the world and trying to overthrow

2643
02:38:15,800 --> 02:38:18,959
Speaker 5: the government of Puba for giving out their logical direction

2644
02:38:19,840 --> 02:38:20,640
Speaker 5: for revolution.

2645
02:38:21,760 --> 02:38:26,360
Speaker 8: All right, question, go ahead, Mike, So in essence, just

2646
02:38:26,400 --> 02:38:29,119
Speaker 8: said we've been played by this government. We've been played

2647
02:38:29,120 --> 02:38:32,240
Speaker 8: by our political leaders. We've been played by our clergy

2648
02:38:32,640 --> 02:38:35,960
Speaker 8: and our educators. Is that what you're saying, professor.

2649
02:38:36,400 --> 02:38:39,120
Speaker 5: Well, of course we controlled. We got anything in the

2650
02:38:39,200 --> 02:38:42,680
Speaker 5: United States control. Give you tax exempt that means they're

2651
02:38:42,680 --> 02:38:45,280
Speaker 5: paying you all just saying do what they want you

2652
02:38:45,360 --> 02:38:51,000
Speaker 5: to do. Anybody that get miseducation by them, and you

2653
02:38:51,080 --> 02:38:53,760
Speaker 5: can't spee out by the people, so they control them.

2654
02:38:54,000 --> 02:38:56,840
Speaker 5: And at that pore, we need people that step outside.

2655
02:38:56,920 --> 02:38:59,600
Speaker 5: That's what Snick did back in the day. They stepped

2656
02:38:59,600 --> 02:39:03,480
Speaker 5: outside the system, spoke up for Palestine, spoke out against

2657
02:39:03,480 --> 02:39:07,200
Speaker 5: the war in Vietnam, joined many protests and demonstration and

2658
02:39:07,360 --> 02:39:10,240
Speaker 5: educated the people with the United States and the crime

2659
02:39:10,320 --> 02:39:12,760
Speaker 5: the United States was doing. And that's why they came

2660
02:39:12,840 --> 02:39:15,920
Speaker 5: to destroy a snick. That's why they destroyed the United

2661
02:39:16,360 --> 02:39:20,600
Speaker 5: Markers God the organization University Nego Improvement Association, which was

2662
02:39:20,640 --> 02:39:25,720
Speaker 5: a worldwide international organization trying to unite African people trying

2663
02:39:25,760 --> 02:39:28,920
Speaker 5: to liberate Africa and saying that you can't be free

2664
02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:31,560
Speaker 5: until you have your own land, your own country, your

2665
02:39:31,600 --> 02:39:35,280
Speaker 5: own government, and your own army. And when you get it,

2666
02:39:35,560 --> 02:39:38,520
Speaker 5: you got to have an army strong enough to defeat

2667
02:39:38,600 --> 02:39:40,800
Speaker 5: the enemy when he come to try to take it,

2668
02:39:41,120 --> 02:39:43,959
Speaker 5: like they're trying to do in Venezuela right now. They

2669
02:39:44,040 --> 02:39:49,359
Speaker 5: want Venezuela's natural resources, and I only want venezuela natural resources.

2670
02:39:49,520 --> 02:39:52,360
Speaker 5: They want to control all the natural resources and center

2671
02:39:52,360 --> 02:39:56,600
Speaker 5: in South America and the United States and North America.

2672
02:39:56,720 --> 02:39:59,480
Speaker 5: But they're trying to control all the natural resources in

2673
02:39:59,600 --> 02:40:02,840
Speaker 5: the world. And that's why they got so many bombs

2674
02:40:02,840 --> 02:40:05,760
Speaker 5: and big bombs. But we must be ready and our

2675
02:40:05,879 --> 02:40:09,040
Speaker 5: freedom fighters must drop put up their arms, and we

2676
02:40:09,120 --> 02:40:12,360
Speaker 5: must be willing to lay our lives down before our

2677
02:40:12,760 --> 02:40:15,119
Speaker 5: before we lay our weapons down. Matter of fact, our

2678
02:40:15,160 --> 02:40:18,000
Speaker 5: bodies must hit the ground before our guns hit the ground.

2679
02:40:18,240 --> 02:40:20,960
Speaker 5: We must bite imperialistments just dead.

2680
02:40:21,800 --> 02:40:23,080
Speaker 1: All right, Hold up, all right there, we got a

2681
02:40:23,080 --> 02:40:25,160
Speaker 1: step aside for our last break. And I guess if

2682
02:40:25,200 --> 02:40:27,400
Speaker 1: you just joined us and wondering who's speaking you, listen

2683
02:40:27,440 --> 02:40:29,560
Speaker 1: to the voice of William Acossa Ricks. He's one of

2684
02:40:29,560 --> 02:40:32,640
Speaker 1: our sixties freedom fighters. He marched along with doctor King

2685
02:40:33,160 --> 02:40:36,200
Speaker 1: Stoked Carmichael when he was Stokey Carmichael before he became

2686
02:40:36,320 --> 02:40:41,080
Speaker 1: kwame Terray. Also John John Lewis was in there with her,

2687
02:40:41,160 --> 02:40:43,960
Speaker 1: all those people of each Snake Marion Barriers, part of Snake.

2688
02:40:44,000 --> 02:40:46,800
Speaker 1: This is it. This is one of the last leaders

2689
02:40:46,800 --> 02:40:47,280
Speaker 1: of that group.

2690
02:40:47,360 --> 02:40:47,560
Speaker 7: Was there.

2691
02:40:47,600 --> 02:40:49,800
Speaker 1: He was young back then. And you still got the fires.

2692
02:40:49,840 --> 02:40:51,879
Speaker 1: You're here this morning. You want to speak Timbo, you

2693
02:40:51,879 --> 02:40:53,920
Speaker 1: can reach us at eight hundred four or five zero

2694
02:40:54,120 --> 02:40:56,760
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls

2695
02:40:56,760 --> 02:40:59,320
Speaker 1: next and grand Rising family, thanks for sticking with us

2696
02:40:59,320 --> 02:41:01,520
Speaker 1: on this when day morning. So hunt there, we're halfway

2697
02:41:01,560 --> 02:41:03,640
Speaker 1: through the work week with our guests. Of William Maccossa

2698
02:41:03,720 --> 02:41:05,959
Speaker 1: Rix's I measure, he's one of our sixties heroes who

2699
02:41:06,000 --> 02:41:09,320
Speaker 1: mantreed doctor King and Kwame Terrae and John Lewis and

2700
02:41:09,520 --> 02:41:13,000
Speaker 1: Marion Barry is part of the snake configuration. There was

2701
02:41:13,040 --> 02:41:14,920
Speaker 1: the where of those are the fellows who started the

2702
02:41:14,959 --> 02:41:18,720
Speaker 1: Black power and started informists? What was going on? And

2703
02:41:18,840 --> 02:41:22,560
Speaker 1: this morning the brother Macossa Ricks oil tanker with a

2704
02:41:22,640 --> 02:41:25,520
Speaker 1: Russian flag. They said, the United States has has links

2705
02:41:25,520 --> 02:41:29,320
Speaker 1: to both Russia and Venezuela was seized in the Atlantic Ocean.

2706
02:41:30,080 --> 02:41:32,400
Speaker 1: Are we on the verge of World War three? If so,

2707
02:41:32,680 --> 02:41:35,000
Speaker 1: brother Mancossa Ricks, what do we do as black people?

2708
02:41:36,120 --> 02:41:38,920
Speaker 5: Well, we're better. Well we all were in the World War,

2709
02:41:39,160 --> 02:41:41,400
Speaker 5: Ain't no doubt about it. TuS is happening it all

2710
02:41:41,440 --> 02:41:42,080
Speaker 5: over the world.

2711
02:41:42,600 --> 02:41:42,840
Speaker 11: And that.

2712
02:41:45,160 --> 02:41:48,720
Speaker 5: They are prepared a Russia and Channa and and their

2713
02:41:48,800 --> 02:41:52,680
Speaker 5: other nations are prepared to fight. And that the United

2714
02:41:52,720 --> 02:41:56,880
Speaker 5: States is billiing people and that whatever they do to

2715
02:41:56,959 --> 02:42:00,480
Speaker 5: Russian Russia gonna give them protect and they know it.

2716
02:42:01,000 --> 02:42:04,520
Speaker 5: And that we better get ready and get our armies together.

2717
02:42:05,240 --> 02:42:09,160
Speaker 5: And we like we say the Sahara nations, But Sahara

2718
02:42:09,320 --> 02:42:12,640
Speaker 5: Nation is just a little small small piece of Africa.

2719
02:42:13,360 --> 02:42:17,320
Speaker 5: Africa is twelve million square miles of land, and we

2720
02:42:17,440 --> 02:42:22,000
Speaker 5: got to liberate all twelve million square miles of land

2721
02:42:22,200 --> 02:42:25,879
Speaker 5: in Africa, and we got to unite with all our

2722
02:42:25,959 --> 02:42:29,440
Speaker 5: African brothers and sisters around the world where we can

2723
02:42:29,560 --> 02:42:33,800
Speaker 5: make a big fight and fight a worldwide fight. Because

2724
02:42:33,840 --> 02:42:37,440
Speaker 5: when we fight in the United States, all the European

2725
02:42:37,560 --> 02:42:41,880
Speaker 5: nations wherever they are in the world, and European territories,

2726
02:42:41,920 --> 02:42:46,119
Speaker 5: the territories that they control, all of those territories fight

2727
02:42:46,200 --> 02:42:50,800
Speaker 5: against us. So now we as African people, we have

2728
02:42:50,920 --> 02:42:56,000
Speaker 5: to come together and form organizations and get educated to

2729
02:42:56,120 --> 02:42:59,360
Speaker 5: this revolution. I don't know of many I know of

2730
02:43:01,280 --> 02:43:05,360
Speaker 5: organization like the APRP. There's a lot of education on

2731
02:43:05,360 --> 02:43:08,879
Speaker 5: that website, and it's an organization you can join, but

2732
02:43:08,879 --> 02:43:11,560
Speaker 5: there's a lot of education on it and you can

2733
02:43:11,600 --> 02:43:15,400
Speaker 5: begin to learn about the revolution, learn about the struggles,

2734
02:43:15,440 --> 02:43:19,039
Speaker 5: and see what Cashtro's saying and what to us you're saying,

2735
02:43:19,080 --> 02:43:21,520
Speaker 5: and what other people in the world are saying on

2736
02:43:21,640 --> 02:43:26,279
Speaker 5: these websites. But you can't listen to ABC, CBS, NBC

2737
02:43:26,879 --> 02:43:29,879
Speaker 5: and all that kind of stuff. All that's controlled by

2738
02:43:29,959 --> 02:43:32,440
Speaker 5: the United States, and they do nothing but tell lies

2739
02:43:32,560 --> 02:43:36,840
Speaker 5: and keep you confused, and you can't listen to these politicians.

2740
02:43:37,080 --> 02:43:39,199
Speaker 5: They ain't gonna say nothing but what the slave masters

2741
02:43:39,320 --> 02:43:41,720
Speaker 5: tell them to say, and that you've got to speak

2742
02:43:41,720 --> 02:43:45,600
Speaker 5: out and join an organization and whatever. Yes, so we

2743
02:43:45,720 --> 02:43:47,680
Speaker 5: in the world war ain't no doubt about it. And

2744
02:43:47,720 --> 02:43:51,080
Speaker 5: the United States continue to attack and and and look

2745
02:43:51,280 --> 02:43:54,000
Speaker 5: for war. They're looking for facts. That's United States that

2746
02:43:54,240 --> 02:43:54,960
Speaker 5: create their war.

2747
02:43:55,040 --> 02:43:55,680
Speaker 9: And in the.

2748
02:43:57,480 --> 02:44:00,440
Speaker 5: Ukraine, that's the United States doing that. They got to

2749
02:44:00,480 --> 02:44:04,240
Speaker 5: run out out of Vietnam to vietnam Ese. They had

2750
02:44:04,240 --> 02:44:07,240
Speaker 5: to fight them for twenty thirty years to get them

2751
02:44:07,240 --> 02:44:10,080
Speaker 5: out of Vietnam. And look at what they're doing in

2752
02:44:10,120 --> 02:44:15,520
Speaker 5: the Middle East there in northeast subject anyway, in the

2753
02:44:15,560 --> 02:44:19,400
Speaker 5: Middle so called Middle East, how they committing genocide on

2754
02:44:19,480 --> 02:44:23,200
Speaker 5: those people, dropping bombs all over that area, trying to

2755
02:44:23,240 --> 02:44:27,400
Speaker 5: take it over and expand Israel, where Israel would be

2756
02:44:27,440 --> 02:44:29,959
Speaker 5: a big nation like the United States. And in order

2757
02:44:30,000 --> 02:44:32,480
Speaker 5: to do it, they got to commit genocide on the

2758
02:44:32,520 --> 02:44:38,320
Speaker 5: people in Palestine, in Syria, and they want to blow

2759
02:44:38,400 --> 02:44:43,520
Speaker 5: up and kill the people in Iran. So these people

2760
02:44:43,600 --> 02:44:47,400
Speaker 5: are international murders. And they have been committing genocide on

2761
02:44:47,480 --> 02:44:51,040
Speaker 5: us in Africa and dropping bombs on us and starving

2762
02:44:51,160 --> 02:44:54,400
Speaker 5: us to death and making what we don't have medicine

2763
02:44:54,440 --> 02:44:57,920
Speaker 5: in all kinds of other things in Africa. But the

2764
02:44:57,959 --> 02:45:01,400
Speaker 5: last five hundred years where they had carried us out

2765
02:45:01,400 --> 02:45:06,080
Speaker 5: of Africa, all through the South American South. Here we

2766
02:45:06,160 --> 02:45:12,080
Speaker 5: don't have. We living under bridges, We don't have lights, gas, water, medicine,

2767
02:45:12,240 --> 02:45:14,920
Speaker 5: and don't care how hard we work. We can't get

2768
02:45:15,040 --> 02:45:18,560
Speaker 5: enough for sur bible. And they charged us for everything

2769
02:45:18,640 --> 02:45:21,200
Speaker 5: you sweat. They want you to pay for to be old.

2770
02:45:21,680 --> 02:45:23,400
Speaker 5: You go to the bathroom, you got to pay for

2771
02:45:23,520 --> 02:45:26,520
Speaker 5: some toy attisis some more. If you get sick, you

2772
02:45:26,600 --> 02:45:29,800
Speaker 5: gotta pay for appeal. If you die, you gotta pay

2773
02:45:29,840 --> 02:45:32,000
Speaker 5: to die. And all of these the ain't nothing but

2774
02:45:32,160 --> 02:45:33,680
Speaker 5: criminals that's doing.

2775
02:45:33,840 --> 02:45:35,440
Speaker 1: Let me you over here and ask you this question.

2776
02:45:35,480 --> 02:45:38,160
Speaker 1: Though a brother Macossa Ricks are fourteen away from the

2777
02:45:38,200 --> 02:45:42,440
Speaker 1: top of the had doctor King lived today, would he

2778
02:45:42,560 --> 02:45:46,080
Speaker 1: be out in front against what's going on your thoughts.

2779
02:45:47,200 --> 02:45:50,280
Speaker 5: Well, he would be out there. He would have no

2780
02:45:50,440 --> 02:45:53,920
Speaker 5: choice but either be out front and speak it up

2781
02:45:53,959 --> 02:45:56,480
Speaker 5: and speak it out. And still on the road that

2782
02:45:56,560 --> 02:45:58,600
Speaker 5: he was on, he began to get on a good road.

2783
02:45:58,640 --> 02:46:02,200
Speaker 5: Remember when he died, he was carrying a whole group

2784
02:46:02,280 --> 02:46:06,280
Speaker 5: of thousand people to Washington, d C. To fight the

2785
02:46:06,320 --> 02:46:09,840
Speaker 5: President of the United States, to go to the camp

2786
02:46:09,879 --> 02:46:12,640
Speaker 5: on the ground of the White House and to make

2787
02:46:12,720 --> 02:46:17,320
Speaker 5: demands and fight. So doctor King was kept becoming a

2788
02:46:17,400 --> 02:46:20,320
Speaker 5: fighter and a fighter and a fighter. And that's why

2789
02:46:20,520 --> 02:46:24,400
Speaker 5: when he had his troops on the way marching from Mississippi,

2790
02:46:24,440 --> 02:46:30,000
Speaker 5: Alabama and South George and other places, marching troyd Washington,

2791
02:46:30,080 --> 02:46:32,880
Speaker 5: d C. To go up there to fight the FBI

2792
02:46:32,959 --> 02:46:35,360
Speaker 5: in the United States government killed him before he could

2793
02:46:35,400 --> 02:46:38,440
Speaker 5: get there. So he would he would be he would

2794
02:46:38,440 --> 02:46:42,480
Speaker 5: he fad demon starts speaking out against imperialism, like many

2795
02:46:42,480 --> 02:46:47,560
Speaker 5: of our politicians don't do. Old John Lewis, they broke

2796
02:46:47,640 --> 02:46:50,960
Speaker 5: John Lewis. John Lewis with what you call a broken slave.

2797
02:46:51,520 --> 02:46:53,840
Speaker 5: When he ended up. John was crying on the slave

2798
02:46:53,959 --> 02:46:56,720
Speaker 5: massa shoulder, saying, you'd be hitting me in the head,

2799
02:46:56,760 --> 02:46:59,240
Speaker 5: But they hit thousands of us in the head, and

2800
02:46:59,280 --> 02:47:02,800
Speaker 5: that Oca Comacker Dad fighting them. H Raph Brown was

2801
02:47:02,840 --> 02:47:07,359
Speaker 5: put in prisons. Lamoumba was killed, and and and whatever.

2802
02:47:07,840 --> 02:47:09,879
Speaker 5: But so if that if Martin, if the team was

2803
02:47:09,959 --> 02:47:13,400
Speaker 5: living and the situation was like this, he would have

2804
02:47:13,520 --> 02:47:17,200
Speaker 5: to speak out like Paul Robson, like W. B. The

2805
02:47:17,280 --> 02:47:20,600
Speaker 5: Boys like Marcus Goby and men and men and men

2806
02:47:20,640 --> 02:47:24,240
Speaker 5: and others has done and they have assassinated and killed

2807
02:47:24,959 --> 02:47:28,680
Speaker 5: thousands of people that spoke out and stood up. So

2808
02:47:28,800 --> 02:47:29,560
Speaker 5: we were continue.

2809
02:47:29,760 --> 02:47:31,720
Speaker 1: Let me jump in here again another question for you

2810
02:47:31,879 --> 02:47:35,440
Speaker 1: Macassa Rick's twelve Away from the Top. They had help

2811
02:47:35,520 --> 02:47:38,360
Speaker 1: from people who look like us. How did you deal

2812
02:47:38,400 --> 02:47:41,520
Speaker 1: with that? Were you aware of the cointail program when

2813
02:47:41,560 --> 02:47:45,320
Speaker 1: you were marching with with King and and Carmichael, Were

2814
02:47:45,360 --> 02:47:47,560
Speaker 1: you guys aware that you probably had some snitches and

2815
02:47:47,600 --> 02:47:49,560
Speaker 1: some sellouts in your midst.

2816
02:47:50,480 --> 02:47:52,640
Speaker 5: Well, we didn't know it, but we knew that was

2817
02:47:52,720 --> 02:47:55,760
Speaker 5: Uncle Toms that we called him, and uh, we didn't

2818
02:47:55,760 --> 02:47:58,480
Speaker 5: know the level of it, but to continue to get

2819
02:47:58,520 --> 02:48:02,760
Speaker 5: the level. And one the corn Taire pro registert Lembum,

2820
02:48:03,879 --> 02:48:06,760
Speaker 5: they started burning like I remember that was a school

2821
02:48:06,800 --> 02:48:12,080
Speaker 5: in California, a daycare center, and they got this man

2822
02:48:12,120 --> 02:48:14,720
Speaker 5: out of prison and told him that they had dropped

2823
02:48:14,720 --> 02:48:17,440
Speaker 5: the charges on him if he would go work in

2824
02:48:17,560 --> 02:48:21,600
Speaker 5: the school and get him information. And once he worked

2825
02:48:21,640 --> 02:48:24,040
Speaker 5: in the school and got the information, and then they

2826
02:48:24,080 --> 02:48:25,680
Speaker 5: went to him told him that we want you to

2827
02:48:25,680 --> 02:48:28,280
Speaker 5: set the school on fact and they burned it down

2828
02:48:28,920 --> 02:48:31,720
Speaker 5: and that was the coin Tail, the FBI co Intel

2829
02:48:31,840 --> 02:48:36,680
Speaker 5: pro program, Martin Luther King. There was another brother worked

2830
02:48:36,680 --> 02:48:41,200
Speaker 5: down there with Martin Luther King. He wasn't working for

2831
02:48:41,240 --> 02:48:44,600
Speaker 5: the FBI. Right there in doctor King's office. I ain't

2832
02:48:44,600 --> 02:48:46,240
Speaker 5: you go and talk to the brother all the time.

2833
02:48:46,320 --> 02:48:48,920
Speaker 5: He would talk Black doctor Kane walk back Doctor King.

2834
02:48:49,240 --> 02:48:51,840
Speaker 5: But he wasn't for the FBI. Man that took the

2835
02:48:52,000 --> 02:48:55,280
Speaker 5: Times find in Montgomery with Rosa Paul because on the

2836
02:48:55,320 --> 02:48:58,959
Speaker 5: Black po mars taking pictures for us and had thousands

2837
02:48:58,959 --> 02:49:01,680
Speaker 5: of pictures of the movement. He was turning all that

2838
02:49:01,760 --> 02:49:04,600
Speaker 5: stuff and sharing it with the FBI and all that

2839
02:49:04,720 --> 02:49:07,920
Speaker 5: kind of things. So you have them, and now you

2840
02:49:08,040 --> 02:49:11,840
Speaker 5: got these neo colonialists, which is Uncle Tom's like the

2841
02:49:11,920 --> 02:49:16,360
Speaker 5: Kenyan government, they send troops to hate to kill Haitians

2842
02:49:16,360 --> 02:49:19,320
Speaker 5: that's fighting against the United States and been fighting against

2843
02:49:19,320 --> 02:49:22,040
Speaker 5: the United States for two hundred years. Kenny got troops

2844
02:49:22,080 --> 02:49:24,879
Speaker 5: on the ground down there. There are African troops in

2845
02:49:25,000 --> 02:49:30,120
Speaker 5: Africa and African governments that's trying to kill and to

2846
02:49:30,280 --> 02:49:34,840
Speaker 5: help France in the United States take over the to

2847
02:49:36,240 --> 02:49:39,800
Speaker 5: have reasons. Our fight is for the total memoration and

2848
02:49:39,920 --> 02:49:44,160
Speaker 5: unification of Africa, all of it, every inch of it.

2849
02:49:44,600 --> 02:49:46,959
Speaker 5: And that's our land. And we have to fight for

2850
02:49:47,080 --> 02:49:52,640
Speaker 5: socialism socialism. It's two economic systems in the world, capitalism

2851
02:49:52,840 --> 02:49:57,400
Speaker 5: and socialism. Capitalism is an economic system that's being on slavery.

2852
02:49:57,720 --> 02:50:00,400
Speaker 5: The rich get rich and the pole get poor and

2853
02:50:00,480 --> 02:50:03,600
Speaker 5: to destroy the people, destroy the nation, destroy the water,

2854
02:50:03,720 --> 02:50:07,960
Speaker 5: the food, clothes, everything, and deny people of everything they need.

2855
02:50:08,720 --> 02:50:12,160
Speaker 5: And why socialism is the economic system. They give people

2856
02:50:12,240 --> 02:50:15,279
Speaker 5: everything is need. Its job is to work for the people,

2857
02:50:15,640 --> 02:50:21,720
Speaker 5: getting people daycare, nurse serrict free, getting people housing, lights, gas, water, medicine.

2858
02:50:22,200 --> 02:50:27,199
Speaker 5: No money involved. Money ain't nothing but paper, no good paper.

2859
02:50:27,600 --> 02:50:31,800
Speaker 5: It ain't value at all. That's why more Mockadopper told them,

2860
02:50:32,000 --> 02:50:35,160
Speaker 5: if you want mind all, don't bring no money. Don't

2861
02:50:35,200 --> 02:50:38,080
Speaker 5: bring your money here. If you want mind all, your

2862
02:50:38,160 --> 02:50:40,400
Speaker 5: money is no good. If you want my all, you

2863
02:50:40,600 --> 02:50:43,920
Speaker 5: bring diamonds and gold. And how trade you all for

2864
02:50:44,080 --> 02:50:47,119
Speaker 5: diamonds and gold? But other than that you don't get nothing.

2865
02:50:47,400 --> 02:50:50,400
Speaker 5: So we got the most bag but everything on earth.

2866
02:50:50,720 --> 02:50:54,039
Speaker 5: And that's not the resources they can solve all the problems.

2867
02:50:54,200 --> 02:50:58,480
Speaker 5: And that's why they're going at these brothers and mckinia

2868
02:50:58,560 --> 02:51:01,280
Speaker 5: Fosher and they don't want that's why they win to

2869
02:51:01,360 --> 02:51:05,520
Speaker 5: Venezuela because Venezuela for supporting the brothers and Macina Fossa

2870
02:51:05,959 --> 02:51:09,440
Speaker 5: and they're supporting the revolution all over. This revolution ay

2871
02:51:09,600 --> 02:51:13,120
Speaker 5: just coming out of the Sa Sahah reasons. It's coming

2872
02:51:13,120 --> 02:51:16,359
Speaker 5: out of Africa, but it's also coming out of Cuba.

2873
02:51:16,920 --> 02:51:20,680
Speaker 5: Castro gave us the ideology for freedom and liberation in

2874
02:51:20,720 --> 02:51:25,600
Speaker 5: the direction and got doctors all in countries all over Africa,

2875
02:51:25,720 --> 02:51:29,240
Speaker 5: all over the world, serving and building medical centers and

2876
02:51:29,280 --> 02:51:32,800
Speaker 5: giving people free medicine. Over probably one hundred thousands of

2877
02:51:32,879 --> 02:51:37,400
Speaker 5: Cuman doctors around the world. So helping people and this

2878
02:51:37,640 --> 02:51:41,080
Speaker 5: is good and that soul, but the United States want

2879
02:51:41,080 --> 02:51:43,200
Speaker 5: to stop it. They were anybody that helped the people,

2880
02:51:43,640 --> 02:51:47,480
Speaker 5: anybody that help feed clothes, anybody that says to the people,

2881
02:51:48,160 --> 02:51:51,720
Speaker 5: take over your diamonds, your R, use your R. Don't

2882
02:51:51,800 --> 02:51:54,560
Speaker 5: let the alle companies come take your all and make

2883
02:51:54,680 --> 02:51:57,520
Speaker 5: beans and trillions of dollars off of it. Use your

2884
02:51:57,680 --> 02:52:01,680
Speaker 5: or to feed clothing, house and build housing and everything

2885
02:52:01,760 --> 02:52:04,640
Speaker 5: your people need. Use it. When you do that, the

2886
02:52:04,760 --> 02:52:07,480
Speaker 5: United States said, we're going to kill you because we

2887
02:52:07,560 --> 02:52:09,560
Speaker 5: want that all. We want to give it to Shell

2888
02:52:09,720 --> 02:52:13,600
Speaker 5: all and and and the different American all companies and

2889
02:52:13,720 --> 02:52:16,840
Speaker 5: leave you starving. Livy was one of the richest people

2890
02:52:16,840 --> 02:52:20,320
Speaker 5: in the world, in all and nations in the world.

2891
02:52:20,400 --> 02:52:23,959
Speaker 5: In all they Obama and here it Clinton, all of

2892
02:52:23,959 --> 02:52:27,560
Speaker 5: them went there, they bomb that country and now they're

2893
02:52:27,600 --> 02:52:30,920
Speaker 5: all white people could white all companies control the all

2894
02:52:31,480 --> 02:52:35,280
Speaker 5: United States and those controller all they're still drobbing bombs

2895
02:52:35,320 --> 02:52:37,680
Speaker 5: on the people. And they drop so many bombs on

2896
02:52:37,720 --> 02:52:40,840
Speaker 5: the people. People running jumping in the ocean with the

2897
02:52:40,959 --> 02:52:43,039
Speaker 5: babies in their hands, trying to get away from the

2898
02:52:43,120 --> 02:52:45,760
Speaker 5: bombs and the fire that the United States put on

2899
02:52:45,800 --> 02:52:51,519
Speaker 5: the people. These people are nothing but international murders, international terrorists,

2900
02:52:51,800 --> 02:52:55,840
Speaker 5: and we have to stop them worldwide and that their.

2901
02:52:55,959 --> 02:52:59,480
Speaker 1: Is a so so how do we do that, though, Maksha,

2902
02:52:59,560 --> 02:53:01,840
Speaker 1: how do we do that?

2903
02:53:02,000 --> 02:53:04,480
Speaker 5: We got to get an organization. We got to get

2904
02:53:04,480 --> 02:53:08,480
Speaker 5: an organization. Uh what I like, I just said, the

2905
02:53:08,520 --> 02:53:11,440
Speaker 5: ap r P is an organization. They got a lot

2906
02:53:11,480 --> 02:53:14,160
Speaker 5: of people on there explaining how you do it and

2907
02:53:14,200 --> 02:53:17,320
Speaker 5: what have you and that you have to get educated

2908
02:53:17,680 --> 02:53:20,720
Speaker 5: and join the organization and be supporters of the movement

2909
02:53:21,080 --> 02:53:23,920
Speaker 5: and not just sit on the sideline and cry and

2910
02:53:24,000 --> 02:53:26,320
Speaker 5: complain about it. But we have to be out here

2911
02:53:26,360 --> 02:53:29,039
Speaker 5: fighting against it. And that in the sixth when we

2912
02:53:29,080 --> 02:53:32,760
Speaker 5: fought against the war and Vietnam. They came in our

2913
02:53:32,800 --> 02:53:35,560
Speaker 5: community and shot it up and some of them killed

2914
02:53:35,600 --> 02:53:38,440
Speaker 5: people for speaking out. Uh. Some of the people had

2915
02:53:38,480 --> 02:53:41,560
Speaker 5: to leave the country and some people went to prim

2916
02:53:41,600 --> 02:53:45,560
Speaker 5: They doing everything. These people are monsters. The government of

2917
02:53:45,600 --> 02:53:50,360
Speaker 5: the United States and all these European capitalistic and peerleists

2918
02:53:50,400 --> 02:53:54,680
Speaker 5: and neo colonial Uncle Tom folks. They are fighting against

2919
02:53:54,680 --> 02:53:57,800
Speaker 5: freedom and that we have to join in and fight

2920
02:53:57,879 --> 02:54:00,520
Speaker 5: for freedom. And that's what doctor k he did when

2921
02:54:00,520 --> 02:54:03,920
Speaker 5: Doctor Kings woke up and shouted them libers and all

2922
02:54:04,000 --> 02:54:06,840
Speaker 5: them folks that was Uncle Toms that was around him.

2923
02:54:07,040 --> 02:54:09,959
Speaker 5: Once he woke up and started speaking out and spoke

2924
02:54:10,080 --> 02:54:13,480
Speaker 5: say out why our poster was in Vietnam and and

2925
02:54:13,879 --> 02:54:17,160
Speaker 5: start telling the truth. Then they said we had to

2926
02:54:17,240 --> 02:54:20,160
Speaker 5: kill him. And that's why they killed Mathelm X. And

2927
02:54:20,200 --> 02:54:23,200
Speaker 5: that's why they put Marcus God in jail, putting put

2928
02:54:23,280 --> 02:54:26,560
Speaker 5: New Boys out of the country, did everything to destroy

2929
02:54:26,720 --> 02:54:30,560
Speaker 5: Rovers and Paul Robinson and all other organizations that tried

2930
02:54:30,600 --> 02:54:34,600
Speaker 5: to bring us together. And now we see that Maduru

2931
02:54:34,959 --> 02:54:38,680
Speaker 5: who was a great freedom fighter in the world, he's

2932
02:54:38,760 --> 02:54:42,880
Speaker 5: a world personality. Uh, that's why they dropped involls on

2933
02:54:43,400 --> 02:54:46,080
Speaker 5: the country and they want to all and most of

2934
02:54:46,160 --> 02:54:49,360
Speaker 5: all their threat because United States want to be able

2935
02:54:50,320 --> 02:54:54,480
Speaker 5: to control all the countries in the Caribbeans and all

2936
02:54:54,520 --> 02:54:57,800
Speaker 5: the countries in Central South America. The United States want

2937
02:54:57,840 --> 02:55:01,600
Speaker 5: to be the dominant force and take all the resources

2938
02:55:01,720 --> 02:55:04,480
Speaker 5: and all of that to people who have those resources,

2939
02:55:04,800 --> 02:55:09,240
Speaker 5: have chromes. Well they make billions and trillions of dollars

2940
02:55:09,280 --> 02:55:12,360
Speaker 5: off of it. United States think that everything and all

2941
02:55:12,440 --> 02:55:15,440
Speaker 5: the resources in the world, the imperialists in the world,

2942
02:55:15,480 --> 02:55:18,280
Speaker 5: belonged to them, and they go around the world and

2943
02:55:18,440 --> 02:55:21,640
Speaker 5: anybody that's got resource, they want to use them to

2944
02:55:21,720 --> 02:55:24,880
Speaker 5: help their own people. United States, and they have threat

2945
02:55:24,959 --> 02:55:28,240
Speaker 5: to America and go drop bombs on them and kill them.

2946
02:55:28,320 --> 02:55:32,120
Speaker 5: That's what they do. Democrats and Republicans.

2947
02:55:31,720 --> 02:55:34,360
Speaker 1: Hold that thought right there. Willi maccossa. It's just about

2948
02:55:34,400 --> 02:55:36,080
Speaker 1: flat out of time. But I want to thank you.

2949
02:55:36,320 --> 02:55:38,560
Speaker 1: If people want to reach you, how can do you

2950
02:55:38,560 --> 02:55:40,840
Speaker 1: have an email address or website that they can reach

2951
02:55:40,879 --> 02:55:44,000
Speaker 1: you want to get more information, Well you can.

2952
02:55:44,840 --> 02:55:49,640
Speaker 5: My email is Willy Ricks at Comcast dot net. Willy

2953
02:55:49,720 --> 02:55:51,840
Speaker 5: Ricks at Comcast dot net.

2954
02:55:53,120 --> 02:55:56,119
Speaker 1: All right, thank you, William Maccossa Ricks, Thank you African

2955
02:55:56,160 --> 02:55:58,160
Speaker 1: for all the work that you did, especially back in

2956
02:55:58,200 --> 02:56:00,680
Speaker 1: the sixties, fighting for our peace people, and you're still

2957
02:56:00,720 --> 02:56:02,280
Speaker 1: fighting today. So I just want to thank you for

2958
02:56:02,280 --> 02:56:03,039
Speaker 1: sharing your thoughts.

2959
02:56:03,000 --> 02:56:06,320
Speaker 5: This say you and ping African in the total liberation

2960
02:56:06,520 --> 02:56:10,720
Speaker 5: unification of Africa under scientific socialism revolution.

2961
02:56:11,600 --> 02:56:15,160
Speaker 1: All right, gotcha family. That's it for the day. Classes dismissed.

2962
02:56:15,160 --> 02:56:19,320
Speaker 1: Stay strong, stay positive, please please please stay healthy. We'll

2963
02:56:19,320 --> 02:56:21,880
Speaker 1: see you tomorrow morning, six o'clock right here in Baltimore

2964
02:56:22,040 --> 02:56:25,360
Speaker 1: on ten ten WLB and also on the DMV. I'm

2965
02:56:25,400 --> 02:56:27,520
Speaker 1: fourteen fifty wol