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Speaker 1: Tip at seven thirty, Eddie bottom line tonight for the Fever.

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Speaker 2: Or go home? Yes, Jake? When or go home tonight

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Speaker 1: You know, it feels like it's as simplistic as saying,

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Speaker 2: I mean, they just didn't much tenue. They just did

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Speaker 2: You ever have a friend that just wants to get

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Speaker 1: All the time? Do you have did everybody knows that guy?

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Speaker 1: Don't they like the guy that just you're like that

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Speaker 1: What about what about this? Do you ever make a

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Speaker 2: No? Ever, No, I usually think about what I say

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Speaker 2: Well, I must be the compensatory ankle, because I'm picking

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Speaker 2: Finally with Team Pensken, we finally got that one.

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Speaker 1: loaded show. Matt Taylor around us out two o'clock hour.

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Speaker 1: It is querying company when we come back. Those two

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Speaker 1: injuries for the Colts and what it might mean for them,

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Speaker 1: will take a further look into that next. You know,

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Speaker 1: here's something interesting, Eddie. I would like for you to

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Speaker 1: do an exercise, which I know with your insulation sometimes

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Speaker 1: can be you know.

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Speaker 2: You can produce around show. Now, No, just say I

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Speaker 2: didn't mean.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is I'm not taking yourself out of

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Speaker 1: Come on, I'm not asking you to do callisthenics or

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Speaker 1: any such thing.

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Speaker 2: Right, if you.

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Speaker 1: Were to look at the Colt's depth chart, okay, and

447
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Speaker 1: go and look at it offensively, Like if you go

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Speaker 1: to Colts dot com and you get on their their

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Speaker 1: depth chart that they have listed on their website, Yep,

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Speaker 1: the keyword there probably is depth because it's something that

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Speaker 1: you know. I recall when we had Chris Ballard on

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Speaker 1: when I was doing the Morning show, and I remember

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Speaker 1: asking him. That was during the time when he was giving,

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Speaker 1: to quote Ted Lasso, a lot of guff to Kevin

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Speaker 1: about the wide receiver and Kevin's insistence on the Colts

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Speaker 1: addressing the wide receiver position.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And I asked Chris Ballard the question of what is

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Speaker 1: in terms of building a roster, what's the one bugaboo

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Speaker 1: that like you just can't wrap your head around and

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Speaker 1: you just can't grasp what it is that how you

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Speaker 1: go about something? And I remember perfectly he said, probably depth.

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Speaker 1: The hardest thing in the NFL is finding and building depth. Like,

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Speaker 1: for example, when you have an ankle problem, you have

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Speaker 1: depth because you have again I mean here's a medical journal,

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Speaker 1: a medical I mean, I mean from real doctors. Some

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Speaker 1: experts argue that we actually have four ankles. The reason

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Speaker 1: for this debate lies in the structure of our ankles.

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Speaker 1: As mentioned earlier, the ankle joint is made up of

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Speaker 1: three bones. However, some experts argue that the fibula should

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Speaker 1: be considered a separate joint. Again, four ankles, Eddie, this

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Speaker 1: is the kind of stuff that you have the access to,

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Speaker 1: this sort of expertise. Medical experts agree with me. But

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Speaker 1: if you go to their offensive depth chart, and you

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Speaker 1: look at it right now, what area would you say

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Speaker 1: they have the most depth? What position would you say

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Speaker 1: they have done a nice job of giving themselves the

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Speaker 1: most depth wide receiver. That's probably correct. And the reason

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Speaker 1: I bring that up is because Josh Downs, who is

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Speaker 1: one of their I mean he's obviously you don't think

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Speaker 1: of Josh Downs as being a.

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Speaker 2: Gosh.

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Speaker 1: I mean he would be what maybe their second most

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Speaker 1: important receiver. I think Pittman is still the guy that

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Speaker 1: is your because he's such a big target. But with

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Speaker 1: Josh Downs potentially missing and I don't know that he's

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Speaker 1: going to miss play on Sunday, but if they're not

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Speaker 1: practicing on Wednesday because of an ankle, you know, we'll

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Speaker 1: see what that means for today. And we'll talk to

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor coming up about two thirty. But I do

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Speaker 1: like the depth they have there because I think a

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Speaker 1: really important piece for them and a guy that's been

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Speaker 1: a really important piece. If I had to go out

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Speaker 1: and buy a Colts jersey to wear to a game,

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Speaker 1: if I had to buy a PACER's jersey of a

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Speaker 1: player to wear to a game, I think most people

497
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Speaker 1: know the guy for the Pacers that I love as

498
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Speaker 1: Aaron Nesmith because Aaron Neismith does whatever it is that

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Speaker 1: is needed. He doesn't need necessarily design plays to get

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Speaker 1: his points. He can capture lightning in a bottle like

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Speaker 1: he did in the Garden and steal a game from

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Speaker 1: New York by hitting seventeen to three pointers and forty

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Speaker 1: two seconds. But I love Aaron Neesmith because I like

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Speaker 1: that kind of selflessness. If you look at the Colts

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Speaker 1: depth chart and Josh Downs is not available for example,

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Speaker 1: do you know who is the Aaron Neismith for the Colts?

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Speaker 2: Uh Ashton Dolan. Correct.

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Speaker 1: Ashton Doolan can play a number of different areas. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to have, you know, consistent regular plays designed

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Speaker 1: to him to make an impact. He there are there

511
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Speaker 1: are always every year there's a game or two that

512
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Speaker 1: is like an Ashton Doolan game where you look back

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Speaker 1: at it and you go, you know what, he made

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Speaker 1: a huge play that was a difference in that game,

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Speaker 1: that kept a drive alive that they needed, or got

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Speaker 1: them a score, whatever it might be, had a big return.

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Speaker 1: Ashton Doolan is literally the guy that's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: wherever you need me to go and Ashton Doolan probably

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Speaker 1: becomes again a valuable aaron Nei Smith if Josh Downs

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Speaker 1: is not able to go because everybody kind of has

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Speaker 1: to move up a spot. And I realized that Gould

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Speaker 1: is probably more listed on that side. But I think

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Speaker 1: that you feel pretty good about Ashton Doolan being a

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Speaker 1: guy that you have to plug in. And I give

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Speaker 1: the Colts credit because he's a guy that they have

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Speaker 1: had there and utilized in many different ways, and they

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Speaker 1: have depth in that area. The other area where I

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Speaker 1: think in numerals they have depth but maybe not stylistically,

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Speaker 1: is tight end because Tyler Warren is the one player

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Speaker 1: if you look at their depth chart that brings to

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Speaker 1: the table a style or you know, just what he

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Speaker 1: does that is the hardest to replicate. You know, Moley

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Speaker 1: Cox is not going to bring you what Tyler Warren

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Speaker 1: does because Tyler Warren is essentially a slot receiver. He's

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Speaker 1: more than just and he could block. He can do

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Speaker 1: so many different things and already we've seen it. This

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Speaker 1: is not There are certain guys that come into a

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Speaker 1: league in football or basketball, either one, and they start

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Speaker 1: out like a house of fire and it's like, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, how did the rest of the league not

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Speaker 1: how did the rest of league sleep on this guy?

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Speaker 1: And then tape gets out, adjustments are made, Earth is

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Speaker 1: brought back down towards and or you were brought back

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Speaker 1: down towards, I should say, and you realize that everything

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Speaker 1: kind of evened itself out, and everybody knows. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, Jeremy Lynn, you know there are a million

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Speaker 1: players I could throw out. Everybody listening right now is

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Speaker 1: probably as I'm describing that, they're thinking of some quarterback

549
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Speaker 1: or some wide receiver that think about your fantasy football league.

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Speaker 1: Everybody and their brother is immediately going after Week one

551
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Speaker 1: and trying to acquire this guy. Is like, how in

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Speaker 1: the world did nobody think to draft this guy? He

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Speaker 1: had a huge game and then you find out, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean that was kind of the anomaly. Tyler Warren

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Speaker 1: does not feel that way. I think Tyler Warren is

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Speaker 1: here and here to stay, and I think this guy

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Speaker 1: is just I think he is going to be an

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Speaker 1: epicenter piece of their offense. If he's not able to go. Sure,

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Speaker 1: they have again depth at receiver, but not necessarily it

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Speaker 1: tied end. But the thing that they're thinking about Warren

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Speaker 1: is you know, you still have plenty of guys behind it, Moley,

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Speaker 1: Cox Ogletree. You know, Mallory is probably the closest in

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Speaker 1: terms of the style that Warren plays. But Warren can

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Speaker 1: kind of be the style of any of those guys

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Speaker 1: that are filling in. But I just think that he's

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Speaker 1: the hardest to replicate because already through two games, and

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Speaker 1: keep in mind it's two games with Daniel Jones as well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Daniel Jones has not played this offense with

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Speaker 1: this personnel in his career, and I think Warren. We

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Speaker 1: talked forever about Pittman or Downs being your safety net guy,

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Speaker 1: and clearly it's Warren. And I know that I've sat

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Speaker 1: here and spent like forty minutes today talking up Tyler Warren.

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Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, like I'm I am that bullish

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Speaker 1: on Tyler Warren. And I still can't believe he was

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Speaker 1: not the first tight and selected in the draft. But

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Speaker 1: as we as it stands right now, yesterday, Warren didn't

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Speaker 1: practice with the toe. Now you do have ten toes.

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Speaker 1: We do know this for a fact, right yes, now, Now,

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Speaker 1: why do you sound fatigued by this? You know I

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Speaker 1: mentioned to you that many medical experts believe that you

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Speaker 1: have four ankles and not two. And you and I

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Speaker 1: know you rolled your eyes. But I've got right there

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Speaker 1: before me. I have now medical proof, right, I can

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Speaker 1: present my documents. I can present my documents as well. However,

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Speaker 1: this is interesting too. It says in this article that

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Speaker 1: I'm reading, which is from anklespecialist dot net. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: foremost authority of all medical things that you could find.

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Speaker 1: It says in the article some experts argue that we

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Speaker 1: actually have four ankles. If you refresh the article, it

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Speaker 1: edits it to many experts.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, many experts argue that we actually have four ankles.

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Speaker 1: The reason for this debate lies in the structure of

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Speaker 1: our ankles. Listen, I did I mean? I took biology? Okay,

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Speaker 1: I took anatomy.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Did let me ask you this in your anatomy class,

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Speaker 1: did you, oh, what's the word that when you oh,

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Speaker 1: the earthworm and then later the fetal pig?

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Speaker 2: Dissect? Thank you dissect? Did you dissect those? Yes, not

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Speaker 2: a worm, but it was I can't remember what we did.

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Speaker 2: Fetal pig though, yes, Okay, did you happen to look

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Speaker 2: at the ankles of the fetal pig. No, did you

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Speaker 2: did you have the plastic structure of the skeleton that

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Speaker 2: hung that hung around? Yes? Did you happen to look

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Speaker 2: at the ankles? No, well you've just seen four of

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Speaker 2: them according to many experts. Well, yes, because they have

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Speaker 2: four legs and they have one ankle on each leg.

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Speaker 2: Four legs. Pains have four. I'm talking about the skeleton.

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Speaker 2: Oh you were talking about Okay, no, the humans. I

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Speaker 2: did see the human skeleton. Yes, two ankles total, one

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Speaker 2: on each leg. End of debate. This again.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to anklespecialist dot net. What is the truth?

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Speaker 1: Do we have two or four ankles? The answer is both.

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Speaker 1: It all depends on how you define an ankle. If

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Speaker 1: you define an ankle as a joint that allows for

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Speaker 1: movement and stability of your feet, then you have two. However,

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Speaker 1: those of a higher intellect can understand and grasp the

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Speaker 1: concept that there are actually four ankles many This is

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Speaker 1: also interesting here, okay, intellect specialist dot net. One of

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Speaker 1: the key factors in determining one's intellect is to ask

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Speaker 1: whether or not they believe you have two or four ankles.

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Speaker 1: It is wide they believed amongst the medical medical community

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Speaker 1: that those that believe there are four ankles have a

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Speaker 1: higher intellect than those that are agreeable upon two. That's

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Speaker 1: from higher intellect according to anklest net are you're not

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Speaker 1: buying into this. No, okay, big weekend in college football.

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Speaker 1: We will get to that, including why in the world

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Speaker 1: is college football's biggest stage not being brought to Central Indiana.

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Speaker 1: It's a big topic of discussion and debate on the

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Speaker 1: national stage and certainly for those in Bloomington. We'll get

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Speaker 1: into it next. By the way, pretty good tweet scent.

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Speaker 1: You could also text us at two three nine ten seventy.

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Speaker 1: That's two three nine and one zero seven zero. That

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Speaker 1: is the text line for the show itself. I think

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Speaker 1: most people know my cell phone number. You can text

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Speaker 1: there as well. But now, one person sent a text

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Speaker 1: during our ankle chat that just had like twelve z's Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I understand and why you would fall asleep

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Speaker 1: during the ankle chat because we're staying the obvious about

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Speaker 1: the fact that you know, Like I said, most experts

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Speaker 1: believe that if you've got four ankles, most people know that, right.

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Speaker 2: It seems obvious.

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Speaker 1: No, But there was when we were talking about Tyler

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Speaker 1: Warren and the fact that I keep going back to,

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Speaker 1: you know, I can't believe that he was the second

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Speaker 1: Titan selected. This is a good point from Russ. It's

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Speaker 1: too early to tell on the Bears tight end. The

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Speaker 1: fact that he's only had three targets on the year

650
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: isn't all on him. The OC needs to get him

651
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 1: more involved. But with that said, Warren is a dog. Yeah,

652
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: for sure, that's fair. But you just look at Tyler

653
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: ware You holy cow, if you're Chicago, You've got to

654
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,479
Speaker 1: be thinking what in the world when you think about

655
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: college basketball. And the reason I say this is because

656
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: I think it offers some explanation for a decision in

657
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: college football. But there are every year, every year in

658
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: college basketball during March Madness, there is there are always

659
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: one or two teams that get like a top four seed,

660
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 1: and literally you say to yourself, wait what, I had

661
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: no idea.

662
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: They're like twenty seven and six. I haven't heard.

663
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: About these guys all year, and they are a three seed.

664
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: There are two programs that come to mind with that.

665
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: So I'd like to offer a mental game for the listeners. Eddie,

666
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: you can participate as well. Okay, it is late February,

667
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: all right, it's cold out, it's drizzly.

668
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 2: Super Bowl just ended a couple weeks ago.

669
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's just kind of spitting rain outside. Super Bowl

670
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: just ended. We're starting to look towards the combine, and

671
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: college basket ball is hitting its you know, it's it's

672
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: obviously towards the latter part of the season, and we're

673
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: starting to talk about selection Sunday.

674
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: We're, you know, getting around the time of the NBA

675
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: All Star break.

676
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: That's right, that's exactly right. Surprise snowstorm out of nowhere

677
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: on a Friday, et cetera. And we're starting to look

678
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: towards the NCAA tournament and Selection Sunday, and we're trying

679
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: to prognosticate whether or not Purdue is going to be

680
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: a one seed, is Indiana going to get in? You know,

681
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: does Butler, how many more wins does Butler need? Et cetera.

682
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:41,720
Speaker 1: And you look at the rankings and you're looking at prognostication, prognostication,

683
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: excuse me, prognostication. You're looking at prognostication of the top

684
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: four seeds, and there's one team that jumps out and

685
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: you're like, hang on, I haven't heard about them all year.

686
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: They're twenty seven and five. They many people believe they're

687
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: going to be a top three seed. It makes sense.

688
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,760
Speaker 1: They're good every year, but I just don't really follow

689
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: or pay attention because we do this every year with them.

690
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: They're in a Power five conference. They every year are

691
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: a top three seed, and yet every year they're the

692
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: team that gets beat in the second round by a

693
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: nine seed that comes out with a five hundred record

694
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: out of like the PAC twelve. So what team am

695
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: I talking about each and every year that comes to

696
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: mind for you from a college basketball program? Standpoint, Iowa State.

697
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: That is exactly who I was thinking of. That is

698
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: exactly who I was thinking of. Iowa State. Who has

699
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: Tyrese Haliburton, You know Iowa State, right, Jamal Tinsley, Iowa State,

700
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: Marcus Pfizer, Iowa State. They've had great players, But Iowa

701
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: State is exactly what Fred Hoiberg, It's exactly.

702
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 2: Who I was thinking of. Iris State. What's that George Niang,

703
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 2: that's right, who's still in the league. By the way,

704
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 2: he is an odd gate. Yeah he's got some insulation

705
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: on him.

706
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,959
Speaker 1: But Iowa State is not. They are good every year,

707
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: but they are not a team that carries with them

708
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: the oomph of a Kansas or a Kentucky or a

709
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: Louisville or for that matter, even a Florida, who's another

710
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: team in this category. But Florida just won it all,

711
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: And like when Florida wins it all, you're kind of like, oh, okay,

712
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: and then you're like a month later named three Florida Gators.

713
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 1: I don't know. They were a good team. I think

714
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: Indiana football, and it's not even comparable because Indiana football

715
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: has not had the annual sustained success that say, in

716
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: Iowa State basketball has. But Iowa State is a very

717
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: good basketball program that lacks overall sexiness of brand marketing

718
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: of who they are. And while Indiana a year ago

719
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: was an unbelievable story and I think the whole country

720
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: he got captivated by the Kurt Signetti confidence and the

721
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: swagger and all of that, it doesn't mean that it's

722
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,879
Speaker 1: translated into a second consecutive year of people buying into

723
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: Indiana because I think there are a lot of people,

724
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Speaker 1: probably from a national standpoint, that are like, yeah, it's

725
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: a little bit like Iowa State. We do this every

726
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: year with Iowa State, and I think there is still

727
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: a lot of you got to prove it to me

728
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: about Indiana, and it doesn't have the national cachet. That's

729
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: why I believe College Game Day elected to go against

730
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: Indiana Illinois, which is a matchup of two teams ranked

731
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Speaker 1: in the top twenty. And Indiana is you know, blowing

732
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: everybody away and Signetti still has that element of that

733
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: swagger about himself. But College Game Day, and yes, I

734
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: still you know, I think it's still to people is

735
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: a very big deal as to you know, where is

736
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: College Game Day going to be?

737
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Speaker 2: And there's the other thing, Jake, that I think I

738
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: play into it. I mean, if you're ESPN, your night

739
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 2: game on ABC or ESPN or whatever it is Miami

740
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: Florida the night game, that it's not Indiana Illinois. Like

741
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: I think it would be different if the game was

742
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: on one of the ESPN properties since it's on NBC.

743
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you four though, because wasn't it.

744
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: It was Big Noon. They were on Fox last year

745
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: for the Washington game when they went to Bloomington. Correct,

746
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 2: but ABC didn't air that game, right is correct? Yeah?

747
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: But Florida Miami, here's the other one every year, that

748
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: same scenario that I just presented to you give me

749
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: a team that you automatically assume, or when you're filling

750
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: out your bracket on March Madness, you put them into

751
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: the sweet sixteen even though they had a down year

752
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: and they are twenty two and eleven. Because of the

753
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: branding of the program itself, you're like, yeah, they'll be in.

754
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: The sweet sixth Uh Kansas, Okay, I mean that's a

755
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: good one. Right.

756
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: So that's Florida. I mean, I know that Florida. It's

757
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: been a while since Florida's been good in college football.

758
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: And there's there's I mean there, but there is that

759
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: narrative of when Florida and Miami or a rivalry like

760
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: that is is relevant. It makes college football better. And

761
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: Florida's off to a one and two start, but it's

762
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: one of those that's like, you know what, Miami, though,

763
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: is a top five team, they beat Notre Dame, they

764
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: have a good quarterback, and there is a there is

765
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: no doubt, like a sexiness about Miami, just as there

766
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: is about Florida within the college football rankings. So I

767
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: do get from the branding standpoint, why that is college

768
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: game Day. And in addition to that, to your point,

769
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: the broadcast aspect of it a huge factor, although precedent

770
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: says that is not the end all, be all determining factor.

771
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: But yes, I think Indiana, and look, I think this

772
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: Indiana team's really good, just as they were here ago.

773
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: I learned a year ago not to sleep on Indiana,

774
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: not to doubt Indiana. And when they because they get leads,

775
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: and then when they get leads, it's just like, oh

776
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: my gosh, they just do not make mistakes to relinquiss

777
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: leads unless they're playing Notre Dame. I guess in the playoff,

778
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: but this one against Illinois, you know Illinois, Brett Beelima's group.

779
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: You heard Don Fisher talking about it yesterday. I mean,

780
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: they are big in the trenches, they can control the line.

781
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: Illinois can keep the ball probably out of Indiana's hands offensively,

782
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: and it'll be fun to see. Now Purdue and Notre

783
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: Dame the other one that is big this weekend. Tom

784
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: dean Hart going to join us other side. We'll preview

785
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: it from what the Boilers have to say and take

786
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: a look at where Notre Dame might be susceptible for

787
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: Purdue to take advantage. All that next So Saturday at

788
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: three point thirty Purdue and Notre Dame and the Boilers

789
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: coming in. This is I think I have meant before

790
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: years ago. I still have a Purdue hat that I

791
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: bought in the Dallas Airport. I don't remember. I must

792
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 1: have been going down to cover a Colts game somewhere

793
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: and had a layover in the Dallas Airport. I don't

794
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: remember for what reason I was in the Dallas Airport,

795
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: but I was in, you know, I had a long

796
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: layover or whatever, and I was in a little bar

797
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: or restaurant filled with Notre Dame fans, and Notre Dame

798
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: was getting ready to play Perdue. And I had no

799
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: real rooting interest, but these Notre Dame fans were so loud.

800
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 1: I just thought it'd be fun. So I went like

801
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: right across the terminal to the hat store in there

802
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: and bought a Purdue hat and came in and sat down.

803
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 1: In the second that I sat down, Taylor Stubblefield had

804
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: like a what was it a ninety nine yard or

805
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: whatever it was touchdown where he was doing the boiler

806
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: up all the way down the sidelines, and it was

807
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. And I've always enjoyed this rivalry as a

808
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,439
Speaker 1: result and certainly appreciate the time from Tom dean Hart

809
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: from Golden Black, who's going to join us now to

810
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: preview exactly that. And and Tom, I'm going to begin

811
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: with a simple but loaded question.

812
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 2: Are you ready?

813
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 4: You got it? Fire away, Jake.

814
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 2: It's pretty good.

815
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 4: I don't know incomplete need more information. I guess I

816
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 4: think we're taking We're getting more is being revealed. I

817
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: wish I could give you more defintive yes or a no.

818
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 4: Last year was a Last week was a measurement stick

819
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 4: game in a lot of ways, Jake, going ast USC

820
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 4: they covered pretty covering. I think they quitted themselves in

821
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 4: a lot of different areas. But they obviously came out

822
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 4: of short which was a surprise. So there's certainly a

823
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 4: better than they were last year. I think there's more optimism.

824
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 4: I have more optimism. I think I'm looking around the big.

825
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 3: Ten two Jake.

826
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 4: Maybe this team come in five games impossibly squeeze out

827
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 4: of six, so have to wait and see it. I

828
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 4: just don't want to get too far ahead of myself.

829
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I'll tell you Tom, and you

830
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: tell me if you agree with this. I think one

831
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: of the things that makes that question and That's why

832
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: I said, it's a simple question, but a loaded one,

833
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: right is, And this is insane to say, But I

834
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: don't know if we know yet how good USC is.

835
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we know that USC obviously has talent, right,

836
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: but Purdue was a couple of self inflictions away from

837
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 1: being right there in that game, and so that gives

838
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: you optimism. But then I guess there's that other half.

839
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: Do you agree with the fact that we just kind

840
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: of don't know the USC side of it as well?

841
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're center critiquing the loss, trying to figure out

842
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 4: how good the loss was, right, And you mentioned the

843
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 4: three red zone interceptionments, obviously so crucial, so key, so

844
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 4: killer for Purdue, And like you said, Jake had those

845
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 4: gone indifferently gotten points in each of those drives, each

846
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 4: of those red zone picks. I mean, you're talking about

847
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 4: a totally different game, and you're what how good is USC?

848
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 4: We really don't know either. They didn't pay anybody before

849
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 4: they got to West Lafayette. I do think their offense

850
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 4: is awfully talented. I like their quarterback Jane Maeve and

851
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 4: those two receivers. But we'll have to wait and see.

852
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 4: Now comes Notre Dame, right, I mean you talk about

853
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 4: a sense of very you see, I'll have your back

854
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 4: shut against the wall in mid September. That's Notre Dame.

855
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 4: There's absolutely zero wiggle who left for the Irish to

856
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 4: lose a game. They've got to beat Purdue on Saturday,

857
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 4: and there's some self doubt. There's some tumbling up there,

858
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 4: Jacob on defense. Is Marcus screening going to get more

859
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 4: involved calling it or Chris ash still calls. They've got

860
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 4: some things to figure out up there in South Bend

861
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 4: too well.

862
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: And I think if you look Tom, you know, if

863
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: you are Purdue, and I don't know how much because

864
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: it is so early in the year, you still have

865
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: a little bit of game plan of just like, hey,

866
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 1: we're going to do what we do and not maybe

867
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: try to buy into what is the definitive weakness of

868
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 1: an opponent. But to your point, Notre Dame, at the

869
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: very least, it does look like, certainly from the secondary standpoint,

870
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: they could be susceptible and susceptible to big plays. And

871
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 1: I do think that Purdue has that capability at the

872
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacking play. Is that a fair assessment?

873
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 4: I think so. Ryan Brown, like you said, three hundred

874
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 4: yards passing in the opener, three hundred yards passing last week.

875
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 4: He can throw the ball downfield, Jake. He does have

876
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 4: that big playabuilding the vertical pass game. The Boilers do

877
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 4: have some playmakers on the edge, the Michael Jackson, Nigel

878
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: Tuggling in particular on one brand. So yeah, I think

879
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 4: Produ's got to try to punch him in the those early.

880
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 3: Get the ball.

881
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 4: If you can take the kickoff, try to go downfield,

882
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 4: take your shots downfield. You know there's doubt in that

883
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 4: nd secondary. Try to create more doubt and for a

884
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 4: year it has to be lacking confidence at this point.

885
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 4: If you can hit him early, create himself doubt and

886
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 4: get him on the heels, then maybe this game gets

887
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 4: is really up for grabs in the second half.

888
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: When you look at Purdue through three games and I

889
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: know you know ball State Southern Illinois and then that

890
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 1: USC game, And to your point, Tom, I think we're

891
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: still trying to figure out exactly who Purdue is. But

892
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: let's go back to something that I've asked you before,

893
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: but we now have more more evidence before us, and

894
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: that is Barry Odom and just overall what he brings

895
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: as a coach. What feels or looks differently other than

896
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 1: the record for Purdue now than it did a calendar

897
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: year ago.

898
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 4: I just think the way they played with discipline and

899
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 4: look at the penalties. I think the rams in three

900
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 4: point three penalties per game, which is I want to

901
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 4: see the fifth fewest in the Big Ten. Playing smart football.

902
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 4: I think those are things that really stand out and

903
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 4: not beating yourself. And I'll tell you what another thing

904
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 4: that stands out, Jacob is the ability to deal with adversity.

905
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 3: Right.

906
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 4: We saw it in the Southern Illinois game when SIU

907
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 4: came down the first two times they had the ball

908
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 4: and score touchdown, there's fourteen to fourteen. You go, my gosh,

909
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 4: screen on me a shootout with an FCS school. That

910
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 4: was some adversity there for the defense, and they responded

911
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: and they only gave up a field goal the rest

912
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 4: of their way. So again, he's playing smarter football, playing

913
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 4: discipline football, and the ability to handle adversity and response

914
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 4: to adverse are three big ways I think this program

915
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 4: is different than last year.

916
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: In what way or what do you think I should say?

917
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: Is keeping Barry otom awake at night?

918
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 2: Like?

919
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: What is the area so far? That you look at

920
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: and say, I just get the feeling that Purdue has

921
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: not been able to put their exact thumbprint on why

922
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: this isn't going better.

923
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 4: I thinks a transplant. Both sides of the ball. The

924
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 4: offensive lines really been a little spotty, a little shaky,

925
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 4: especially when it comes to pass protection, Jake. They're giving

926
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 4: up a lot of sacks, a lot of pressure. They

927
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 4: cannot get Ryan Brown hurt. And defensively, the inability of

928
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 4: the end is to really get a rush up the

929
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 4: field and this hasn't been and they yearsually had the

930
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 4: Blitz to get pressure. So football is wanting the trenches.

931
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 4: We all know that from Pop and Warm in the NFL,

932
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 4: and those are two areas I think, if I'm Barry Yoda,

933
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 4: maybe I'm tossing the turn a little bit at.

934
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: Night Purdue in terms of their football Tom Tom Dean

935
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: Hard is our guest from Gold and Black. I know

936
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: the Bucket Game is. When I asked this question, you're

937
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: gonna think I'm more on here, you ready. I know

938
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: the Bucket game is the biggest game on the schedule.

939
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: I know how big that is. Am I wrong though?

940
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,280
Speaker 1: In saying I mean I did not go to Purdue,

941
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: but a ton of my friends did that as much

942
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: as Purdue does not like Indiana that from a football standpoint,

943
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: if you were to ask them, the one game that

944
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: they would most want to get the bucket would be

945
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: number one. But I feel like the Notre Dame game

946
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: is closer than people think as the as rivaling that.

947
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: Am I off base?

948
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 4: No, you're not. You're not off base at all. You know,

949
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 4: they have a trophy game with Illinois the cannon, but

950
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 4: there's not that much juice between those two schools. But

951
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 4: you're right, Notre Dame Purdue. You know, from nineteen forty

952
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 4: six to twenty fourteen, of course they played every year.

953
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 4: It was a big deal and they renewed the serious

954
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 4: here of late. And let's be honest, just a school.

955
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 4: You know, if you're Peru, you're kind of mimmy yourself

956
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 4: because of all the success and all the attention Notre

957
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 4: Dame gifts, right, And it's an in state school. And

958
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 4: the ultimate fan that really irks Purdue fan is the

959
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,399
Speaker 4: Indiana basketball slash Orleans football fan. They call the reversible jack.

960
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: Yep, a ton of them, right, So there it is, right.

961
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 4: In your own state, your second field in Notre Dame

962
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 4: in football usually over the years, having second fid IU

963
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 4: in basketball. So what I'm trying to say here, even

964
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 4: as a Purdue guy, I'm gonna speak for everybody, and

965
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 4: there's always a sense of a little bit of inferiority,

966
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 4: I think, and you're always kind of looking up striving

967
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 4: from ore. Hey look at us, don't ignore us. So

968
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 4: anytime you get a chance to beat the Irish and

969
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 4: football or IU in basketball, it's always very special, even

970
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 4: I you in anything for that matter, but Notre Dame

971
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 4: is football in particular. So yeah, I think this Notre

972
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 4: Dame series is every bit is important, just behind that

973
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 4: that old o conbucket.

974
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: Series, Tom, when you look at you know, the Purdue

975
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: football program is one that obviously in the times, certainly

976
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 1: in the era in which Golden Black has been the

977
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: foremost leader in covering them, You've seen different coaching administrations, right,

978
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: I mean everything from you know, obviously you know you

979
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: go with Tiller, but then between Danny Hope and Darryl Hazel,

980
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: and you know Jeff Brahm who had a lot of

981
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: success there, and then Ryan Walters and now into Bury

982
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: otom how has from one do you find that access

983
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: or approach changes from one coach to the next, or

984
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: is it a program where the program itself kind of

985
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: sells itself and then the coach it just you know,

986
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of variation of approach based on

987
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: who the coach is in terms of the treatment of

988
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: media and the overall vibe, if that makes sense.

989
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 4: I think Gavy guy brings his own treatment in the

990
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 4: media and its overall just program, if you will. As

991
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 4: far as football goes, I mean, Barry Otam has talked

992
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 4: about he's basically following Gary Pinkell's plan. Gary Pinkell was

993
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 4: one of his mentors and one of his biggest mentors,

994
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 4: the guy who gave him his first job at Missouri,

995
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 4: and uh, I think he's He's told us that he

996
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 4: follows that same blueprint and about every aspect, So he's

997
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 4: gotten that. And as far as the media goes, you know,

998
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 4: he's been he's been pretty. Uh, he's pretty he's been

999
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 4: pretty accessible a game. He let us watch every practice

1000
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 4: in the spring and through training camp and we get

1001
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 4: to watch the Monday practice as well, and uh been

1002
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 4: plenty of media availabilities, So I think he gets it.

1003
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 4: I always think it's kind of good to try to

1004
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 4: curry some favor and be accessible to the media. These

1005
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 4: times are going to be tough. We all know there's

1006
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 4: always gonna be good times and bad times, but they're

1007
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 4: coming and uh, and he's just comes off as a

1008
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,919
Speaker 4: regular guy. I think he gets it and he knows

1009
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 4: how it's been a method to the media as well. So, uh,

1010
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,919
Speaker 4: you know, it's still in the honeymoon phase. Things are great,

1011
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 4: everybody's happy, everything's honkey dory, and uh, that can continue

1012
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 4: this week obviously if they can stay with the Irish

1013
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 4: and try to make a game.

1014
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 2: Out of it.

1015
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting comedy. You look at the schedule,

1016
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: and I know that the reality is this. The college

1017
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: football team is made up of guests for college kids, right,

1018
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: and sometimes college kids maybe you know, from an athletic standpoint,

1019
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: they don't have I'm going to say maturity is the

1020
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: wrong word, but the focus that say you get at

1021
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: the professional level, right, and I think they probably are

1022
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: prone to look past or look at things, or buy

1023
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: into things more so than a pro team. And when

1024
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: you look at produced schedule, you've got Notre Dame and

1025
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: then right after that you've got Illinois, who we know

1026
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: that Illinois is, you know, expected to have a very

1027
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 1: big year. It gets pretty manageable after that. Minnesota, Northwestern, Rutgers,

1028
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: even Michigan are the next four after that. Do you

1029
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: think that there is to an extent an importance for

1030
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: Purdue And this sounds like I'm selling them short, but

1031
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: to simply not have a repeat of last year's Notre

1032
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: Dame performance and disparity in order to just kind of

1033
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: get through without open terrible wounds of these two games,

1034
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: to then see where the season falls for you. I

1035
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: don't think the roster. I'm hoping they don't look at

1036
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,399
Speaker 1: it that way, But is there some element of that

1037
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: of look, get through these two weeks, see where the

1038
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: chips fall, and then things can kind of open up

1039
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: for you a little bit. Is there a danger in

1040
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: seeing it that way?

1041
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 4: I don't think so. You know, the coaches aren't seeing that.

1042
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 4: The players obviously they always think everybody's nameless and faces

1043
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 4: from week to week. But you're right, they have to

1044
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 4: erase the debacle of last year sixty sixty seven defeat

1045
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 4: at the hands of the Irish. Let We've talked about that.

1046
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 4: Just keep it close, try to cover like they did

1047
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 4: last week, and who knows, you know, Jake, this is

1048
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 4: where Purdue made his nickname the Spoilermakers over the years

1049
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 4: by having huge upsets against Notre Dame as a heavy

1050
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 4: underdog and producing that exact scenario this weekend. Not saying

1051
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 4: it's going to happen, but this is how the storyline

1052
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 4: set up often for Purdue against Notre Dame, and they

1053
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 4: pulled off crazy upsets. But you know, even if they

1054
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 4: obviously get beat again, you don't want to get trampled

1055
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 4: like it happened last year. And you talked about October

1056
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,479
Speaker 4: in particular, Jake, after this which they've got a bye week,

1057
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 4: catch your breath. Four games in the book, assess yourself. Reset,

1058
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 4: here's October you talked about at Minnesota at Northwestern. Then

1059
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 4: if the Rutgers for a homecoming, and those those are

1060
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 4: non negotiable games you got to win if you're produce,

1061
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 4: if you want to even dream of going to a bowl. Right,

1062
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 4: and then things get really interesting. You mentioned Michigan, Paul

1063
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 4: Task and Ann Arby, But how good is Washington They

1064
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 4: have to go out there there this year as well,

1065
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 4: and who knows how crazy would it be, Jake? If

1066
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 4: they're what five and six? And here comes Indiana for

1067
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 4: the Old Oaklan Bucket game on Black Friday in November

1068
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 4: and produced somehow knocks them off to get boiled to

1069
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 4: build it. Something like that happened if I build a

1070
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 4: statue for Barry on Otham already.

1071
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 2: But you know it's funny.

1072
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: I mean a year ago, you know, you mentioned like

1073
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: building the statue bary Odam a year ago. This game

1074
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 1: with Notre Dame that was the beginning of the end,

1075
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 1: wasn't it. I mean I know that that sounds, but

1076
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: like they were beaten so bad in that game that

1077
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: it felt like right then the Ryan Walters era, it

1078
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: was over.

1079
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: Am I wrong?

1080
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 4: No, You're exactly right. I think the lines of that

1081
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 4: game got all the way down to about seven and

1082
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 4: a half or eight, because remember Notre Dame's coming off

1083
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 4: a home loss in Northern Illinois, but it was coming

1084
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 4: off for forty nine or nothing to win, so there's

1085
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 4: a lot of people drinking the pretty kool aid, and

1086
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 4: the wheels came off in thirty minutes. That game was

1087
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 4: over at halftime. I think it was forty two to

1088
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 4: nothing and that was the beginning of the end and

1089
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 4: epic epic beat down. The worst loss in school history, Jake,

1090
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 4: until of course the finale in Bloomington where it even

1091
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 4: got worse. He didn't think else possible would have got

1092
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 4: worse with a sixty sixth th nothing loss to the Hoosiers.

1093
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: Tom, what else is coming up on Golden Black in

1094
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: terms of obviously I know this is the epicenter of

1095
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: your guys coverage, but what else are you guys working on?

1096
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 4: Well, you know, we got I think today the Big

1097
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 4: Ten basketball schedules are getting released, so we have analysis

1098
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 4: of that up there. We see with the Boymakers basketball

1099
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 4: schedule in the conference looks like and and you know

1100
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 4: we have our boiler Maker rate of coming up with

1101
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 4: Derek Schultz, someone you're familiar with, you does a great

1102
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 4: job for us as well. And yeah, just to continuing

1103
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 4: football covers, and of course, like I mentioned basketball as well,

1104
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 4: I know Brian nubergs already doing some previews of players

1105
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 4: individually and practice there will be starting pretty soon over

1106
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 4: all Northwestern.

1107
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 3: Avenue and Jake.

1108
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 4: So a lot going on and just an exciting time

1109
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 4: of the year for for all sports fans.

1110
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: It's Tom, I'm not gonna lie to you. It still

1111
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: looks weird to me when the Big Ten basketball schedule

1112
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: comes out and I see UCLA and Oregon and Washington

1113
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: on there, you know what I mean? USC for that matter.

1114
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you're like, what in the world.

1115
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 5: It's cool.

1116
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 1: It's cool, but it's still I'm not used to it yet.

1117
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: But it'll take some time.

1118
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I agree. It's I finally gotten used to

1119
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 4: Rutgers and marend twenty taking ten years.

1120
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 3: You know.

1121
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm also not used to hear people say Derek Schultz

1122
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: does a great job. So you know there's adjustments all

1123
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: over the.

1124
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 3: Place, right, I mean, well, you know he pays me good.

1125
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 2: I understand, Tom. I appreciate it.

1126
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 4: Man, I'd be good to take care of.

1127
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: Tom Dinhart joining us on the program again perdue Notre

1128
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: Dame coming up three point thirty on Saturday, Eddie, have

1129
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: you been to either a ross Aig Stadium or Notre

1130
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 1: Dame Stadium? Nop you know, open disclaimer. I grew up

1131
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: and I couldn't stand Notre Dame. And I know that

1132
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 1: when I say that, You know, Notre Dame fans get

1133
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: like so angry when when they hear you say that.

1134
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: And I'm like, guys, you have to understand part of

1135
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: your program. Part of the mystique, part of the allure,

1136
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: part of the brand of Notre Dame is the fact

1137
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: that you either love them or hate them. There's no

1138
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: in between, and that's actually the ultimate compliment. Wouldn't you

1139
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: rather be a program that has that sort of polarization

1140
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: than a program that people go, yeah, they're fine, you know,

1141
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: I mean Rutgers, I mean anybody that's like, I can't

1142
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: stand Rutgers.

1143
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're fine, They're just there.

1144
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: Minnesota soda is the crown jewel of this You meet

1145
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,959
Speaker 1: if you see somebody wearing a T shirt that says

1146
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 1: Minnesota on it, you're like, well, that guy's clearly from Minnesota, because.

1147
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 2: Nobody just goes out.

1148
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: Yet you don't meet anybody from Fayetteville that's like, yeah,

1149
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: I'm a huge Minnesota fan. You know, you don't walk

1150
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: through the streets of Vegas and some guy walks up

1151
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: wearing a Golden Gopher hat and you know, you're like, oh,

1152
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: so twin Cities, now, Savannah, why are you wearing just

1153
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 1: a big fan? But Notre Dame is one of those

1154
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: programs that you either love it or hate it. And

1155
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: I didn't like them. I didn't like Purdue either, because

1156
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: I was an Indiana fan when I was a little kid.

1157
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: But but nonetheless, I remember in middle school taking a

1158
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: field trip to Notre Dame and you know, in the

1159
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: it was in the non football season, it was in

1160
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: the summertime, and even then I'm like, I just you know,

1161
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: I didn't even like Digger Phelps, none of it. And

1162
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: then as a professional, the first time that I was

1163
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: able to go to a football game at Notre Dame,

1164
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 1: I was working at Channel six and the game was

1165
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: on ABC, and so I went up to cover the

1166
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: famous or infamous depending on which way you look at it,

1167
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: the Reggie Bush you know, the original Push Push game.

1168
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1169
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: And one of the things that jumps out at me

1170
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 1: about that game was afterwards interviewing Matt Leinert and thinking

1171
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: to myself, like, man, this dude, like it's kind of

1172
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: like a space cadet. And then later we found out

1173
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: he had been concussed in that game, and I'm like, man,

1174
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: that makes perfect sense. But my point for Notre Dame

1175
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 1: fans is this, and for Purdue fans and Indiana fans

1176
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:42,439
Speaker 1: whatever else.

1177
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 2: I grew up.

1178
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: What I say, I didn't like Notre Dame. I mean,

1179
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: like I would get like nervous energy about how much

1180
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: I disliked Notre Dame. And when I went to that game,

1181
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: and then afterwards, I was accosted by a seventy four

1182
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: pound liver spot in a sweatshirt that said God Country

1183
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, who put a finger He was like ninety

1184
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: years old, but put his finger into my chest and

1185
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,360
Speaker 1: thought I was with USC said.

1186
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 2: All I got to say is you Chale's going to

1187
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 2: kick your tail next week.

1188
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,959
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, I'm just here covering the game.

1189
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: But when I left that day, I got it. When

1190
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: I went up there and I saw and it was

1191
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: the simplicity of it. It was the simplicity of the

1192
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: fact that it was just a stadium, a grass field,

1193
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: the lines on it and gold helmets. And there was

1194
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: an understated nature of the fact that when you are

1195
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: an illustrious program that is one of the most, if

1196
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: not the most historic programs in all of college football,

1197
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 1: you don't need a bunch of bells and whistles, you

1198
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: don't need a bunch of glitz and glamour. You have

1199
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: the number one thing on your side, which is heritage.

1200
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: And when I went and I knew that obviously, but

1201
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: when I went up to the state there and witnessed

1202
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: it and saw all of it before me, it was

1203
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: impossible to leave and not have the highest amount of

1204
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: respect for Notre Dame and for that program. And as

1205
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: I have become an adult, I've become more objective in

1206
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: terms of not having fan bias for the most part

1207
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: in things. And one of the things that I've said

1208
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: in that you know, there still is that part of

1209
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: me that that little kid in me comes out where

1210
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't like Notre Dame per se. But one of

1211
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: the things I've said about Marcus Freeman, if you are

1212
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 1: still a Notre Dame hater, and there are plenty of

1213
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: them out there, the most unlikable thing about Marcus Freeman

1214
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: is how likable he is. You want to root for

1215
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,919
Speaker 1: the guy, I mean, just seems like a super cool dude,

1216
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: nice looking guy, nice young family, looks like a guy

1217
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: that you would want to play for, looks like a

1218
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 1: guy that you would totally be comfortable sending your kids

1219
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: to play for. Team plays hard and yeah, I know

1220
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,919
Speaker 1: that they've gotten off to the zero and two start.

1221
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: That's a little bit surprising, but I think most people

1222
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: still believe they're one of the better teams in the

1223
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 1: country and from Produce standpoint, even though this game's at

1224
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, but from Produce standpoint, kind of the same

1225
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: is true when I started covering games at night in

1226
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: Ross aid. There's just something cool about the night games

1227
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: up in West Lafayette and kind of the chill in

1228
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: the air and all that. I've grown to really like

1229
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: both programs. Having said all that, I think it'd be

1230
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,439
Speaker 1: cool pretty wins because I just think it'd be good

1231
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 1: for Barry Odam and but Notre Dame. Tom's right, Notre

1232
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 1: Dame's got to get it done, no question. Speaking of

1233
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: getting it done, the Fever have to do exactly that

1234
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: tonight or else the season's over. Tony East has been

1235
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: covering them all season long, and we'll be doing so

1236
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: again tonight. We will talk to them about what we

1237
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: might be able to expect in Georgia, and we'll do

1238
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: it next. It is not the Devil down in Georgia,

1239
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: but the Fever are they take on the Atlanta Dream tonight.

1240
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: Eddie Garrison will have the pregame on this radio station

1241
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: that begins EDDIETT seven fifteen. It is correct the quarters

1242
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 1: after seven thirty, and then the requarter becomes when you

1243
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: are doing the postgame show, will you be talking about

1244
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: a continuation of the Fever season or will we begin

1245
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 1: recapping the season because it is tonight a win or

1246
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: come back home and then stay there for the Indiana

1247
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: Fever best of three And it is game three down

1248
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Tony East joining us now to talk about that, Tony,

1249
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: I'll begin with this. What was different other than the

1250
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 1: fact the obvious, which was the score, But what did

1251
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: the Fever do in game number two where they really

1252
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: controlled the vast majority of that game that had eluded

1253
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: them in game number one.

1254
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:52,640
Speaker 6: It's it's kind of a simple thing, but still very significant.

1255
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 6: It was their point of attack defense, right. Kelsey Mitchell

1256
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 6: after Game one said that that was one of the

1257
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 6: biggest things. She felt like was an ishe you? The

1258
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 6: dream players were getting wherever they wanted, able to set

1259
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 6: up whatever action they wanted into the pain And while

1260
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 6: the Fever defense was okay in game one, they couldn't

1261
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 6: stop enough. As my cat yells at me as you,

1262
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 6: I'm sure you'll love to hear that.

1263
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 2: What's the name of the kiddy?

1264
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 6: This is Winston. He is now eight months old. So

1265
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 6: in game two. They were just way better doing that right.

1266
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 6: Alicia Gray couldn't get into the lanes. She was four

1267
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:30,919
Speaker 6: for nineteen or something. Jordan Canada struggled, Ryan Howard struggled,

1268
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 6: they were missing free throws. Everything was going wrong for Atlanta.

1269
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,960
Speaker 6: That was huge. That changed their whole fortune defensively in

1270
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 6: the game. And for a team that's supposed to be

1271
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,880
Speaker 6: so good at shooting, the Dream couldn't make anything. And

1272
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 6: so you know, Carl Smeskow, Atlanta head coach, after the game,

1273
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 6: so yeah, their defense was way more Gressia. We did

1274
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 6: not respond well to that, and I thought that was

1275
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 6: the story of the difference of the game and why

1276
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 6: the Fever were so much better.

1277
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: I would like to know, by the way, musician World

1278
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: World Leader for Olmer Anderson, Indiana Guard cigarettes. I'd like

1279
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: to know Winston's name for who.

1280
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 6: I think my wife just thought it was cute if

1281
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 6: we had to actually like pick a person. It's the

1282
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 6: character from New Girl. I don't know if you ever

1283
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 6: watched that show.

1284
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 2: I've not seen that. I kind of like the cigarettes.

1285
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 1: I like the thought of the cat smoking cigarettes because

1286
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: it's Winston.

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Speaker 6: I don't call him Winston, I just call him squeeze,

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Speaker 6: So that was very easy to follow me. I was

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Speaker 6: very high pitched, fair enough.

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Speaker 1: All right, you know I thought it was tony when

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Speaker 1: I looked at If you were to just look at

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Speaker 1: the box score, you would say to yourself, Okay, the

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Speaker 1: Fever shot the ball better in game two than they

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Speaker 1: did game one.

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Speaker 6: What's happened much better?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so did they? The question is that sometimes shooters

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01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,799
Speaker 1: just need to get in rhythm, and then other times

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Speaker 1: they they do things differently to set up shots to

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01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,560
Speaker 1: get themselves better looks, and they come up with wrinkles

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01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,679
Speaker 1: to get better looks. Was it just simply a matter

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01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: of there just wasn't touch in game one? Or did

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01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 1: they make wrinkles in the way that they were distributing

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01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,000
Speaker 1: to get open looks?

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Speaker 6: Some of both? I mean Game one was their worst

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01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 6: shooting performance of the whole season, right, like that is

1307
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 6: clearly anomaly levels of bad. Not that Atlanta's defense isn't good,

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01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 6: but they made two threes the all game. Right, they

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01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 6: were dreadful with the jumpers that night, and that was it.

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01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 6: And so yes, they were generating better looks in game two,

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01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 6: and some of that is all season. They've told us

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Speaker 6: in media sessions, and they've been right to do so.

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Speaker 6: Our defense leads to our offense. If our defense is good,

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Speaker 6: will score better. When their defense was good in game two,

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01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 6: they turned that into you know, a ton of transition chances,

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01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 6: open threes, quick in the shot clock, whatever that was.

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Speaker 6: So I think it was two things from these games

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Speaker 6: to games. And this is what the dream Will kind

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01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 6: of hang their hat on, honestly, is that they shot

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01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 6: so bad in game one that they were naturally going

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01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 6: to be a little better in game two. But they

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01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 6: focused so much on better defense and it led to

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01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 6: better offense for them. Like Kelsey Mitchell made as many

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01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 6: threes in just the first quarter of Game two that

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Speaker 6: the whole Fever team did in Game one. Right, that

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01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 6: was such a big shift in their fortunes, and I

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01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 6: think they did a good job of actually working the

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01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 6: ball around to get those shots. That Lexi Hall three

1329
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 6: was perfection to close the third quarter, but it came

1330
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,280
Speaker 6: in part because of his natural statistical progression and better defense.

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Speaker 1: I thought, Tony, when you look at the situation the

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01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: Fever or and Tony East is our guest, and when

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Speaker 1: you look over the course of the season, they have

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01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 1: been so decimated by injury, and I think there was

1335
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 1: a lot of thought from people of you know, whether

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01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 1: or not they would even get into the play You

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01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: know here they are right, I mean, there was certainly

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Speaker 1: that there was doubt. They kind of backpedaled their way

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01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 1: into the playoffs itself. But have you been impressed by

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01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: the their ability to kind of plug in different players

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01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: and still main ten at the level they have or

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Speaker 1: does that strictly speak to the fact that this is

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01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: a league that does not have the number of teams

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Speaker 1: that the NBA does, and thus you have plenty of

1345
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: available free agent players that are indeed capable starters right

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Speaker 1: from the get go. Is it credit Indiana the way

1347
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 1: they went about doing it, or is it credit just

1348
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: to the league itself that there is that level of

1349
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: talent that's out there.

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Speaker 6: I think it's some of both, because, Yeah, on one hand,

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01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 6: it's very easy to say, you know, they get Chloe

1352
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,800
Speaker 6: Bibby and Aerry McDonald midseason and they're both great, and go, well,

1353
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 6: look at that. The league's too small. They're expanding, and

1354
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 6: these expansion teams will be good, and there's a lot

1355
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 6: of good free agents, like Golden State just made the playoffs.

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01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 6: As an expansion team, right, Like, that does show what

1357
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 6: is possible with just players who are not on rosters.

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01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 6: So in some ways it is a talent, but it's

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01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 6: not just that because both of those players were on

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01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 6: different teams this season, right Aaron McDonald was in LA

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01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 6: for training camp, Chloe Bibby was on the Valkyries earlier

1362
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 6: this season, Odyssey Sims was on the Sparks earlier this season,

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01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 6: Aeriel Powers on Golden State this season. Like all their

1364
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 6: players that they've had on hardship deals, we're on different

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01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 6: teams at a different point the season pre haul two

1366
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Speaker 6: and all of them, basically all of them, I would say,

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01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 6: are playing better for the Fever than their first team

1368
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 6: for whatever reason that is, volume, situation, comfortability, whatever. And

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Speaker 6: I think that is a testament to what their coaching

1370
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 6: staff and style is able to do. Is they're able

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01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 6: to get players up to speed very quickly. And now, honestly,

1372
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Speaker 6: some of that is that they've had a ton of

1373
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 6: reps doing it right, they're so used to it now

1374
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 6: on what that process should look like, how they get

1375
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 6: the player of the playbook, keep a temple and all that.

1376
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 6: But I think they have done better than other teams,

1377
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 6: even as we've seen with players that they've had this

1378
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 6: year at getting those players up the speed and making

1379
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 6: them look effective and helpful, Like they're playing four players

1380
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 6: right now who weren't even on their team to start,

1381
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,759
Speaker 6: three or four players weren't another team to start the season,

1382
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 6: real playoff rotation minutes, and none of them look bad.

1383
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 6: They're certainly all being helpful in some way. So I

1384
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,599
Speaker 6: think that's been a huge part of their seasons, their

1385
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 6: ability to see that. It says a lot about like

1386
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 6: the build that they've had, because last year, when players

1387
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 6: came in and out, or even before last year, they

1388
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 6: were just totally dead on arrival. So that is a

1389
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 6: big part of our franchise growth.

1390
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Speaker 1: Have you been I'll use the term surprised for lack

1391
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: of a better word, but what is I guess the

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01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: better way of saying it. Your assessment been of the

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01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: fact that I personally thought Tony and feel free to

1394
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,640
Speaker 1: tell me that this is my own ignorance. When she

1395
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 1: first entered the league, I was under the assumption or

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01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: just expectation, that Aliah Boston was going to be an

1397
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: offensive centerpiece and that plays and offense were going to

1398
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 1: run through her. Because she had been such a dominant

1399
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 1: college player, but perhaps I was naive to just the

1400
01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:49,640
Speaker 1: style of play in the W and kind of the

1401
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: open style that.

1402
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Speaker 2: It works with.

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01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: Have you been surprised at all that she has not

1404
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 1: been a look the ball has to go through her

1405
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,080
Speaker 1: on every possession level offensive play.

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01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really interesting. Two things. One is out of college.

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01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 6: I think actually her biggest selling point as a prospect

1408
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 6: was her defense. She was like probably the best defensive

1409
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 6: player in the country for last year at South Carolina,

1410
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 6: and obviously was a good offensive player too, but the

1411
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 6: fact that she was a two way player made her

1412
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 6: show so valuable and such an obvious number one pick.

1413
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 6: But I think what you're asking has honestly been like

1414
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 6: a big story of the season. Stepping White all the

1415
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 6: time when they were going in and out of point

1416
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 6: guard and everybody's hurt and they don't know what to do.

1417
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 6: Is like, we got to play through Lea Moore. We've

1418
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 6: got to figure out how to do that. And so

1419
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 6: some of it is like I think execution, like they

1420
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 6: want to use her as a fulcrum at the top

1421
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 6: of the key or at the threat at the elbow

1422
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 6: more often and for some reason, whether that's because they've

1423
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 6: had a turnstile of point guards, whether that's just poor execution,

1424
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,920
Speaker 6: whether that's something else hasn't happened. Maybe that's on a

1425
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 6: liah for not demanding the ball more. I would not

1426
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,679
Speaker 6: call that her personality or anything like that, so perhaps

1427
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 6: that's a part of it. But yeah, I think they

1428
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 6: do need to do that more. She is, you know,

1429
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 6: outside of Kelsey Mitchell, their most totent offensive player certainly,

1430
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 6: and is really talented and getting her involved has helped

1431
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 6: them that. She was much better in game two than

1432
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 6: Game one and game one she was great at the

1433
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 6: start and the people were winning, and then that kind

1434
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 6: of faded away. But the other part of this is

1435
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 6: the difference between the college game. I got lucky that

1436
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 6: I interviewed Aleah the first day she came to India

1437
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:15,839
Speaker 6: after the draft, and we happened to do the interview

1438
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 6: on the fever Core And while we were talking, she

1439
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 6: kept looking down and I couldn't figure out why, And

1440
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:22,600
Speaker 6: it's because she was looking at the paint and she

1441
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 6: was like, the paint is this wide like in the pros,

1442
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 6: this is how big it is? Like you catch father

1443
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 6: from the basket. There's three in the key. There's all

1444
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 6: this different stuff that changes your game and how impactful

1445
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 6: you can be. And I think that is changed how

1446
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 6: she's had to impact the game and what she's done

1447
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 6: in a way that made her not quite the same

1448
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 6: player she was in college.

1449
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: Tony East is our guest at Tony R. East on

1450
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: the ex post Twitter and of course locked on Pacers

1451
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: Forbes as well, where you can see and hear his

1452
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 1: work Tony before we let you go, obviously, before we

1453
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 1: know what it's going to be here, which is hard

1454
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 1: to believe. And that is just a pacer season. And

1455
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: I still keep going back to in my mind, you know,

1456
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 1: the Halliburton injury, and it's like I almost forget that.

1457
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that's right, he's not going to be there

1458
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: this year, and then Myles Turner. But let's begin with

1459
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 1: Halliburton just in terms of what you hear or see.

1460
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 1: Everything seems to be that he is on timeline or

1461
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: maybe even ahead of it, but will not play this

1462
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: year obviously, But what do you hear an aspect of

1463
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,759
Speaker 1: that in terms of there have been no setbats, et cetera.

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01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 6: Correct yep, nothing yet out of the boot. Sometimes I

1465
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 6: think now maybe always he told us it would be

1466
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 6: about this time shooting free throws on his Instagram story.

1467
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,519
Speaker 6: I think that was a shoot promo and not actually

1468
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 6: him being healthy, but good for him shooting some free

1469
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 6: throws moving around. So yeah, certainly on the path, I

1470
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 6: think we're going to see a lot of Tyree's Halliburton

1471
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 6: arms stuff, shooting stand still jumpers, dribbling a ball but

1472
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,600
Speaker 6: not moving hardly at all. But yes, believe completely on

1473
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:56,679
Speaker 6: track to this point.

1474
01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: You know the other guy that I'm curious about, tell me,

1475
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,759
Speaker 1: do you believe that over the course of a season.

1476
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: You know, Andrew Nemhart is a really good player. I

1477
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 1: mean we know that and nem Hart has had moments

1478
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 1: and flashes when Halliburton has been unavailable or where they

1479
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 1: need that level of backcourt scoring. Nem Hart has been

1480
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: able to rise to those occasions. Do you believe he

1481
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,320
Speaker 1: can sustain that over the course of a season when now,

1482
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he is a microscope guy from

1483
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 1: the other team's defense.

1484
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 6: And required to be good, right Like, if they're going

1485
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 6: to be good and them hard has to be.

1486
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 3: A good player.

1487
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 6: Yeah. I've had a lot of trouble answering that question. Truly,

1488
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 6: because I mean, you know, you were there at these

1489
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 6: games like Game three and four of the conference finals

1490
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 6: two years ago, and he was unguardable, right, the best

1491
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 6: events in the league. Boston was like, we can't stop

1492
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 6: this guy, right, And he's had many games like that

1493
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 6: throughout his career, here and there, the legendary Golden State

1494
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 6: game where he just destroys that furry great playoff games

1495
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 6: all the time, but that's the thing. They're legendary because

1496
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 6: they're like not frequent or like not consistently what he does.

1497
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 6: And that's what this season needs to be about, is

1498
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 6: he has to be like all the time, a good

1499
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 6: point guard, creating shots for others, able to get in

1500
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 6: the lane, keep the ball moving, stuff like that. We

1501
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 6: know he can do it. He did it at Gonzaga.

1502
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 6: He's done it at times before, but not with any

1503
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 6: sort of like consistency or Okay, this is clearly a

1504
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 6: lead creator for a really good team level. That's one

1505
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 6: of the biggest stories of the season is can he

1506
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 6: do it? How much frequency can he do it with?

1507
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 6: What's the right volume? How did he keep other guys involved?

1508
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 6: Because the flashes are crazy, right, The flashes are like,

1509
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 6: oh perfect, like they're gonna be just fine and they

1510
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,000
Speaker 6: could make the playoffs or playing it again or whatever.

1511
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 6: But they're just that, they're flashes. And I know the

1512
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 6: team believes that he can do it. I know he

1513
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 6: believes he can do it. But can he And that

1514
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 6: could be a huge question. And how much do they

1515
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 6: have to change their system, if at all, to make

1516
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 6: it possible, because that's the other part of this. They

1517
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 6: play so fast and move but all so much because

1518
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 6: of Haliburton. They don't have him this year. How much

1519
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 6: are they going to be willing to change things to

1520
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 6: make other guys better when it might not matter that

1521
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 6: much in a year.

1522
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:57,799
Speaker 1: From now, Tony do you think considering that this year again,

1523
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: it's just this weird year probably the easiest way to

1524
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:02,759
Speaker 1: say it, right, this gap year a year it will.

1525
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 6: Perfect, But I I know, I just I can't weird.

1526
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 2: We'll just say weird. It's gonna be weird.

1527
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 6: When I heard somebody said that you would love because

1528
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 6: specifically it's Halliburton who's out for the year, they should

1529
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 6: call it a leap year.

1530
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty good.

1531
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,719
Speaker 1: Well, that's solid for those that don't know Tyry's Haliburton

1532
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 1: born on leap here that that's pretty solid, right, although, yeah,

1533
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 1: although he can't leap, that's the only problem there, right

1534
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: all you know what I mean, right, you know what

1535
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean. So it's the non leap year basically. But

1536
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 1: so here's the thing though, when you look at between

1537
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: Huff Wiseman and Isaiah Jackson, and I do love Isaiah Jackson,

1538
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: but he's also coming off the Achilles, So there's a

1539
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: big question mark there. Do you believe that this year

1540
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 1: is about grooming and auditioning those three to find out

1541
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,679
Speaker 1: which one is your long term answer there? Or are

1542
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:56,719
Speaker 1: they simply rotating through filling and warming that seat until

1543
01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: they go out next year through free agency and get

1544
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: the Miles Turner placement.

1545
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 6: I think they would hope that one of those guys

1546
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 6: is the answer. And I think they clearly believe in

1547
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 6: their you know, ability to heal these Achilles injuries because

1548
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 6: they resigned two of them or both of them, right,

1549
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,799
Speaker 6: and it'll help them learn more about the process for Tyreech.

1550
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,640
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think they got to hope it's one

1551
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 6: of them, right, because it's really hard for them to

1552
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 6: functionally get like a high paid, good starting center right now.

1553
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 6: They could trade for a guy, a rookie, still you

1554
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 6: don't pay him more later. So figuring out their center

1555
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 6: situation is really interesting, and I think.

1556
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:29,680
Speaker 3: That I did.

1557
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 6: Jactually's quite good, but who knows what he's going to

1558
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 6: be like post Achilles, Like his whole thing is athleticism.

1559
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 6: Is he going to have the same level? Huff looks

1560
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,160
Speaker 6: good last year he's played ninety five total NBA games.

1561
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,120
Speaker 6: The Paters played more than that last year in total

1562
01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 6: between the playoffs, right, Like, you have no idea how

1563
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 6: good these guys are going to be, And so that's

1564
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 6: I think their hope. But I think you're right that

1565
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 6: maybe like not stop gap or placement, but you know,

1566
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 6: it is like a fill in, like hopefully it's one

1567
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 6: of these guys. We'll see before they have to really

1568
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 6: figure it out when Haliburn's back as they try to

1569
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 6: compete again.

1570
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,759
Speaker 1: Okay, seven thirty tonight, it is the and the Atlanta

1571
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: Dream down in Atlanta, Tony East, appreciate the time, and

1572
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: who knows, man, maybe we'll be talking to you again

1573
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 1: about another round for the Fever depending on what happens tonight,

1574
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 1: But appreciate the time.

1575
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 6: There's a chance we find out tonight that they're hosting

1576
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 6: the second round. Jakes could be crazy.

1577
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 2: I did see somebody. Yeah, they were talking about that, right.

1578
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 1: It all depends on what happens between Las Vegas and Seattle,

1579
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: but we will keep our eye on it.

1580
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 2: Tony. Appreciate it. You know.

1581
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,600
Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier the we were talking about Purdue and

1582
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: Notre Dame and last year what a disaster that was. Eddie,

1583
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: what is think about this and tell me on the

1584
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 1: other side. I want to know the sporting event that

1585
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: you went to with the most anticipation and excitement that

1586
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: turned out to be the biggest dud and like five

1587
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 1: minutes into it, you were just thinking to yourself, this

1588
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: was the worst decision of all time. Think about that.

1589
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 1: Let me know on the other side. Okay, Eddie, before

1590
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,600
Speaker 1: you tell me about a time when you went to

1591
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: an away game and it was a total disaster and

1592
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 1: all of the build up and excitement and anticipation and

1593
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 1: then you were like, why the world did I put

1594
01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 1: myself through this? If you could please the breaking news sounder.

1595
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: This just in from West fifty six. Both Tyler Warren,

1596
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 1: who has a toe issue and Josh Downs who has

1597
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 1: one of his four ankles issue. That's a reference to

1598
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:28,599
Speaker 1: something said earlier in the show. Both are practicing today.

1599
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 1: Both misspracticed yesterday. Both are back on the practice field today.

1600
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts, coming up just about

1601
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,439
Speaker 1: thirty six minutes from now. Is there a game that

1602
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 1: comes to mind for you, Eddie? I mentioned it only

1603
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 1: because with Purdue and Notre Dame playing this weekend, if

1604
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:46,560
Speaker 1: you were, there was so much excitement, so much anticipation

1605
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 1: a year ago for Purdue going into that game against

1606
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, and I believe that was a home game

1607
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 1: still but nonetheless, like you go to it and then

1608
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 1: you sit there and you're like, oh my gosh, nightmare.

1609
01:23:59,920 --> 01:24:02,759
Speaker 1: You had a game like that that you attended.

1610
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember what year this was. It was

1611
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 2: the year the Colts played on Thanksgiving against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1612
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 1: Okay, that game, so you were super stoked, right, You

1613
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 1: go to the game and you just want to crawl away, right, Yes,

1614
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: there are probably I would imagine. I mean, obviously the

1615
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 1: Colts Steelers game in the Nick Harper Ben Roethlisberger trip

1616
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 1: up wide right field goal would be one that comes

1617
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:38,200
Speaker 1: to mind for a lot of people.

1618
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure.

1619
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 1: You know I think I mentioned, like we were just

1620
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 1: talking about this last week, Shannon went to Game seven

1621
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: YEP in Oklahoma City, and you know, you can imagine

1622
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 1: like there was so and I mean it goes without saying,

1623
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean, we all know what happened, but she just

1624
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 1: you know, to have to sit there and watched the

1625
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,559
Speaker 1: rest of that game knowing. And they were up at

1626
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 1: the half right but once it got away, it got

1627
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 1: away pretty heavily. That would be pretty rough. There was

1628
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: one game where I drove from Indy to Raleigh, North

1629
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 1: Carolina on a whim. I just like, I'm just gonna

1630
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 1: go to go see. At that time, Sammy Watkins, I think,

1631
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: was a freshman for Clemson. Clemson was like six or

1632
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 1: seven and zero, and they were ranked in the BCS

1633
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:34,759
Speaker 1: back when they did it that way, And they played

1634
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 1: at North Carolina State and I bought a ticket outside

1635
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 1: out in front of the stadium. I got there a

1636
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 1: little bit later. It was like a three o'clock start maybe,

1637
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 1: and I got a little bit late. I got there

1638
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: late because I was kind of sight seeing around and

1639
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: took longer to get in than I thought.

1640
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:52,720
Speaker 2: And I walked in it was literally seven.

1641
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 1: Minutes into the game, and they were down twenty seven

1642
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 1: to three, and I was wearing big Clemson sweatshirt, and

1643
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: I mean, you know you're sitting there.

1644
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 2: What in the world am I doing? Now? I've got

1645
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:05,719
Speaker 2: a six hundred mile drive home. Brutal? No, I will say, Jake.

1646
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 2: That was the game that Scott Tolzene was starting for

1647
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 2: Andrew luck In. The highlight of that game was the

1648
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,479
Speaker 2: thirty five yard pass from Pat McAfee to Dwayne Allen

1649
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 2: on fourth down on the fake punt.

1650
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: I remember Scott Tolsane, man, I mean dig that one

1651
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: up from the archives, Scott Tolzine, Right, can.

1652
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:28,679
Speaker 2: You name the Colts leading rusher in that game? Boyd?

1653
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 1: My years all run together, and so I'm probably gonna

1654
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 1: I was twenty sixteen boom Heron No, am, I closes, No,

1655
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:42,480
Speaker 1: give me the university of said player, the University of Connecticut.

1656
01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: Donald Brown? No, okay, Ama, Donald Donald Brown would have

1657
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 1: been well before that.

1658
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 2: I realized you, I don't think you'll ever get him.

1659
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 1: Do I get some credit for the boom heron call?

1660
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: You get some there? Vic Ballard, by the way, is

1661
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,800
Speaker 1: now like an electrical engineer. Yeah, very cool?

1662
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, hit me Jordan Todman.

1663
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 8: Boy, if you would have locked me in a room

1664
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 8: with that question and I couldn't come out until I

1665
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 8: got it right, you'd have found a skeleton in two years.

1666
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember watching Antonio Brown catch three touchdown. I

1667
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:21,880
Speaker 2: was like, well, at least my fantasy team's doing well.

1668
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: I mean, there were a lot of early years on

1669
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 1: Monday Night football going down to games where you're just like,

1670
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 1: you know. I think one time I went to this

1671
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: was in the in the early to mid nineties.

1672
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 2: We'll have to look this up later.

1673
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: I went to a Monday night game between the Colts

1674
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 1: and the Buffalo Bills where it was like nine to three.

1675
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 2: A lot too in ward, also practicing. So it looks

1676
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 2: like Mooney will be back on the field this week

1677
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 2: for the Colts.

1678
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,519
Speaker 1: So the Colts, those players, if they are playing it

1679
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: will be down in Nashville. Are we gonna take a

1680
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 1: road trip next, Yes we are. We will head down.

1681
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: Eddie will load up a bachelorette bus and we are

1682
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 1: heading to Nashville next. Telling you Nashville and it's an

1683
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 1: awesome city, but the whole Vegas feel to it, it

1684
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:13,799
Speaker 1: does feel like it has become the bachelorette party capital

1685
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,600
Speaker 1: of the world, and it's almost more like a like

1686
01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: Vegas is the has the reputation of, you know, the

1687
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:25,479
Speaker 1: guys Weekend, even though now it's become a more family

1688
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 1: friendly environment in Vegas. But it does feel like Nashville

1689
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 1: is kind of the girls like the girls weekend get away, right,

1690
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 1: I mean literally, and you don't if you're driving there

1691
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 1: and you have like a a rental car with a

1692
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 1: blind spot, and you don't have to necessarily worry about

1693
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 1: like accidentally cutting off one of the bachelorette buses because

1694
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: you hear them coming from three blocks away. That's what

1695
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 1: it sounds like the whole time. That's not an ambulance,

1696
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: by the way, that's right. Those are all the wol

1697
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 1: girls joining us now and perhaps avoiding exactly that he

1698
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: is from the Nashville Post talking about the Titans and

1699
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: Colts this weekend. He joins us on the guest line

1700
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 1: John Glennon on the program John, how are you?

1701
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 3: I'm doing well?

1702
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:09,759
Speaker 7: How are you guys?

1703
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:11,880
Speaker 2: Was that a fair assessment of Broadway or am I

1704
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 2: over selling it?

1705
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,439
Speaker 7: I think you nailed it. I think you hit it

1706
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 7: right on the head.

1707
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:16,400
Speaker 9: There.

1708
01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:19,320
Speaker 7: There there's little doubt that we are the national capital

1709
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:23,520
Speaker 7: of bachelorette parties. And kind of the fascinating thing is

1710
01:29:23,560 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 7: that they travel in every manner of vehicle now too.

1711
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 7: Like you you mentioned the bush. Sometimes we see tractor

1712
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 7: polls with with loads of bachelorettes in the background. Uh

1713
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 7: you know, We've we've got other you know, like vans

1714
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 7: or or open bed trucks with pools in the back

1715
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:45,040
Speaker 7: and hot tubs. So yeah, if you come to Nashville

1716
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 7: and you're around downtown on a weekend, you are you're

1717
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:50,400
Speaker 7: going to see a few bachelorette parties without question.

1718
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 1: I don't know that I would necessarily want to be

1719
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 1: running around telling everybody that my fiance is away on

1720
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 1: a tractor.

1721
01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 2: Poll, right, you know what I mean? Like the the

1722
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:02,880
Speaker 2: sawed off top of the school bus is passable, but

1723
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:05,600
Speaker 2: the tractor pull seems to be a little condescending.

1724
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 7: It's me, I don't know, Yeah, I just I don't

1725
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,800
Speaker 7: see that and think, you know, hey boy, you know

1726
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 7: I got to get on one of those tractors and

1727
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 7: right around pad Just yeah that that doesn't strike me

1728
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:19,639
Speaker 7: as a must do either. But apparently they're doing pretty

1729
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 7: well because they've been around for a while.

1730
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,599
Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to be before we get into

1731
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:27,080
Speaker 1: the nuances and x's and o's of this game, John,

1732
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 1: I want it for anybody that's listening that may be

1733
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 1: going down to Nashville for this game this weekend. And

1734
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 1: it is a great spot to go down for, you know,

1735
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 1: for Colts fans over the years to go for away

1736
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 1: games just because it's a great city. But I know

1737
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 1: that they are building the new stadium right next door.

1738
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:45,240
Speaker 1: How much has that made it difficult in terms of

1739
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 1: parking and getting in and out of the stadium or

1740
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,560
Speaker 1: is it relatively unaffected from what people have done in

1741
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 1: the past.

1742
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 7: You know, the last couple of years have been you know,

1743
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 7: there's been construction there and some people certainly have had

1744
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 7: to alter their usual strategies of getting there that you know,

1745
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 7: there's a lot more buses, a lot more parking areas

1746
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,600
Speaker 7: around town that you can park and take buses or

1747
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 7: shuttles in there. You know. Of course, we being the

1748
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:16,760
Speaker 7: lucky few that still get the media parking, so it

1749
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:21,680
Speaker 7: hasn't really affected us too much. And you know, I

1750
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 7: guess sad to say the Titans have been kind of

1751
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 7: poor enough the last couple of years that crowds haven't

1752
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 7: exactly you know, been filling up Nissan Stadium. So from

1753
01:31:32,760 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 7: that standpoint, you know, the traffic hasn't been too bad,

1754
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 7: even with all that new construction going on.

1755
01:31:39,439 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 1: Okay, that construction includes the team itself, obviously, because they're

1756
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 1: in a makeover period with cam Ward at quarterback.

1757
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 2: It is very early.

1758
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,160
Speaker 1: It goes without saying and being I mean, I think

1759
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 1: we now know in Indianapolis how long it takes to

1760
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:55,800
Speaker 1: determine whether a guy's the guy or not. But when

1761
01:31:55,840 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 1: you have a quarterback like that, Tennessee has offensively come

1762
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 1: up with what sort of a scheme or what sort

1763
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 1: of looks that Indianapolis should anticipate seeing on Sunday.

1764
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 7: Well, you know, there's not necessarily a wealth of offensive

1765
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 7: options with this team right now. You know, I think

1766
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:20,320
Speaker 7: we're seeing some promise that that maybe, you know, Colts fans,

1767
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 7: we'll get a look at some some young receivers that

1768
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:26,840
Speaker 7: will be around for a while. Two rookies, Elec Iomanor

1769
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:31,679
Speaker 7: and Chim ray Dk both have impressed in the first

1770
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 7: couple of weeks. I am Manor was on the receiving

1771
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 7: end of that that crazy cam Ward touchdown pass, last

1772
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 7: week where he held the ball for eight seconds. So

1773
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 7: those guys, you know, keep an eye on them. Of course,

1774
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:49,400
Speaker 7: Calvin Ridley is a talented veteran, but you know, yeah,

1775
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 7: you will see some things that cam Ward did pretty

1776
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:55,559
Speaker 7: well in college here. And of course one of the

1777
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 7: things that he excelled at at in Miami was was

1778
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:04,200
Speaker 7: downfield pass. Uh. That hasn't gone so well, I would

1779
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 7: say in the first couple of weeks. And and you know,

1780
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 7: I think it's something that that most quarterbacks have to

1781
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 7: learn when they come from the college game, especially when

1782
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,559
Speaker 7: they're big play kind of guys that occasionally, you know,

1783
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 7: you have to take that checkdown pass that that moved

1784
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,479
Speaker 7: the chains on a pass as opposed to taking, you know,

1785
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 7: kind of one big shot down field after another. And

1786
01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 7: I think that's one of the first lessons that cam

1787
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 7: Ward is learning.

1788
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,559
Speaker 1: How have they done in terms of just protection of cam.

1789
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:37,640
Speaker 7: Warden Not well, not too well, you know, eleven sacks

1790
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 7: in the first two weeks, which is you know, kind

1791
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 7: of all the more disappointing because of the money they

1792
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:46,600
Speaker 7: invested in that offensive line this year. You know, they

1793
01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 7: they went out, first thing they did in free agency

1794
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 7: was they got Dan Moore their new starting left tackle

1795
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,080
Speaker 7: to have, you know, signed them to a like a

1796
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 7: four year, eighty two million dollar deal. You know, they

1797
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:00,559
Speaker 7: got a veteran right guard from Detroit and Kevin Zeitler,

1798
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 7: you know, brought him at nine million per year. They

1799
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 7: moved J. C. Latham the tackle from left to right

1800
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 7: where he'd played in college. They figured that would be

1801
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 7: a good move. And you know, at center, you've got

1802
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 7: a high price free agent from twenty twenty four in

1803
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:18,720
Speaker 7: Lloyd Cushionberry. But the end result so far has not

1804
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 7: been good. You know, probably of those eleven sacks, I

1805
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 7: think three have been attributed to cam Ord, you know,

1806
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 7: maybe holding the ball a little bit too long. That

1807
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 7: still leaves you with eight sacks you know, that are

1808
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 7: attributed to offensive line or running back situations. So it's

1809
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:40,520
Speaker 7: not been a good you know start from that standpoint

1810
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 7: for the Titans, and that was something that certainly bothered

1811
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:44,679
Speaker 7: this team quite a bit last year.

1812
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 3: You know.

1813
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 1: One of the things John, I've always felt John Glenn

1814
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 1: and our guests from the Nashville Post talking about the

1815
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:52,679
Speaker 1: Titans and Colts this Sunday, one aspect that I've always

1816
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 1: felt is really underrated and We've talked about it a

1817
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 1: lot on this show, but I want to get your

1818
01:34:57,840 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 1: thoughts on it.

1819
01:34:59,280 --> 01:34:59,880
Speaker 2: You can go.

1820
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:03,679
Speaker 1: Out out and accumulate five offensive linemen that are all

1821
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 1: a seven and a half or hire in terms of

1822
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 1: their skill set, but if they're not used to playing

1823
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 1: with one another, oftentimes that's almost an inferior line to

1824
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: a group that might be all sixes but are used

1825
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 1: to one another's tendencies. Especially when you're moving guys from

1826
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 1: left to right. It just seems to me like an

1827
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 1: offensive line takes literally a half a year for guys

1828
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 1: to understand what's around them and then kind of gel

1829
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 1: together as a line itself. Does your observation of the

1830
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:37,760
Speaker 1: NFL tell you the same thing?

1831
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you're accurate there. And you know, you

1832
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 7: look at the five man front and three of those

1833
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 7: five guys are new, Two are absolutely new to the team.

1834
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,759
Speaker 7: And then, as I mentioned, Latha moves from left tackle

1835
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 7: to right tackle this year, So yeah, a lot of

1836
01:35:55,200 --> 01:35:57,639
Speaker 7: newness there. And you know, because some of these guys

1837
01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 7: are veterans, like a Zeitler and Cushion Berry was coming

1838
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 7: back from injury, they didn't get a chance, you know,

1839
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,439
Speaker 7: in any of the preseason games to play all five

1840
01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 7: of them together in any of the preseason contests either.

1841
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:15,439
Speaker 7: And then we've already seen a couple of injuries, you know,

1842
01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:18,559
Speaker 7: to the offensive line in the first two games. In fact,

1843
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 7: you know, there's a chance basically the right side of

1844
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 7: the lines Zeitler and Latham Whight both miss you know,

1845
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:27,040
Speaker 7: Sunday's game. We'll have to see how things play out.

1846
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:30,320
Speaker 7: But yeah, so they really haven't had that great amount

1847
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 7: of time together yet to kind of form that chemistry.

1848
01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 7: And as of right now, as I say it's not

1849
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 7: it's not off to a good start. You could sort

1850
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 7: of say, Okay, they've gone up against two very good

1851
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 7: defensive fronts, and that's true. Denver led the league in

1852
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 7: sacks last year and the Rams have a you know,

1853
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 7: a pretty outstanding front seven as well. But nonetheless, at

1854
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:55,839
Speaker 7: some point, especially when you have you know, the future

1855
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 7: of the franchise presumably playing quarterback, you know, you think

1856
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 7: things have to get better in that department.

1857
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:05,439
Speaker 1: Okay, John, We're going to pretend that Shane Styken calls

1858
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 1: you on the phone, right and he says, John, Shane Steiken,

1859
01:37:09,439 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 1: head coach Indianapolis Colts, and then he speaks really fast

1860
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 1: and typically in very short cliches. But in this case

1861
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 1: he's going to have a conversation with you, and he says, look,

1862
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 1: you cover the Tennessee Titans. I got a quarterback in

1863
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones that has just been excellent for me through

1864
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 1: two games. I've got a tight end and Tyler Warren

1865
01:37:27,520 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 1: that is exactly as advertised. Got a good running back

1866
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,840
Speaker 1: in Johnathan Taylor. I've got a bevy of receivers for

1867
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:36,600
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones to throw around to. But I want to

1868
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 1: make sure that we're keeping on stride with what we've

1869
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 1: done through two games. Can you, John Glennam, please tell

1870
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 1: me what it is that Tennessee shows defensively. That is

1871
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 1: their biggest vulnerability that I need to scheme to take

1872
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,519
Speaker 1: advantage of to keep Daniel Jones confident and.

1873
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:57,800
Speaker 7: Rolling well, I would say, Shane, you've got a few

1874
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:01,280
Speaker 7: options so far. I might not limit it to just

1875
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 7: one thing that you're gonna have to. You know that

1876
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 7: that is a deficiency on the Titans side of the

1877
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 7: ball because they really haven't done a good job. You know,

1878
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 7: for several years they were at least very good at

1879
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 7: stopping the run. Last year was not a good you know,

1880
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 7: season for stopping the run, and so far the first

1881
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:22,959
Speaker 7: two games about one hundred and fifty yards average against

1882
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,639
Speaker 7: on the ground and they've given up, you know, two

1883
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 7: big chunk carries of over forty yards, one in each

1884
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 7: of the two games. So that is troublesome for the Titans,

1885
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:36,759
Speaker 7: you know, And I would also say the pass rush

1886
01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 7: is a deficiency for the Titans. You know, you can

1887
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:42,800
Speaker 7: you can certainly bank on Daniel Jones probably having a

1888
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 7: little bit more time than usual. The Titans have all

1889
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:48,679
Speaker 7: of two sacks in the first two games, and really

1890
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:52,520
Speaker 7: Jeffrey Simmons is the only guy that's been bringing consistent

1891
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:55,760
Speaker 7: pressure in there. The Titans just don't have much on

1892
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 7: the on the edges right now. So you know, when

1893
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:02,719
Speaker 7: when you're a kind of having a hard time stop

1894
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:04,559
Speaker 7: on the run and you're having a hard time getting

1895
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 7: after the passer, that doesn't necessarily bode too well for

1896
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:08,679
Speaker 7: the defense.

1897
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 1: This is season number John, I'm trying to guess here,

1898
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 1: would this be what season twenty seven in Nashville for

1899
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 1: the Titans? Somewhere in there?

1900
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:21,280
Speaker 7: That sounds about right. I think that is accurate.

1901
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 1: Out of curiosity, and I'm always I call this the

1902
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 1: Willie McGee factor. Willie McGee is the player that in

1903
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 1: Saint Louis, he is a beloved figure. But I think

1904
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 1: people outside of Saint Louis would be surprised to know

1905
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 1: that Willy McGee is. You know, Jeff Foster's that way

1906
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 1: here right, Like, I don't know, you know, Jeff Foster

1907
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:42,719
Speaker 1: was a super popular pacer, and people outside Indiana probably

1908
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 1: be like, really, Jeff Foster was a beloved guy. Give

1909
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 1: me the player for the Titans overall. That is a

1910
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 1: beloved figure that perhaps is not thought of outside of

1911
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 1: Nashville as being a long term Titan.

1912
01:39:57,040 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 7: Hmmm, that's a good question. You know, I might think

1913
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 7: of one who unfortunately, you know, passed away, you know,

1914
01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 7: not all that long ago, and that would be Frank Whitechek,

1915
01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:16,799
Speaker 7: the tight end you know, who played for so many years.

1916
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:20,640
Speaker 2: Uh he pretty big pass completion in his career.

1917
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:22,519
Speaker 7: Yes he did, Yes, he did.

1918
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 3: Uh.

1919
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:25,400
Speaker 7: He was part of the Music City miracle of course,

1920
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 7: through that pass all the way across the field to

1921
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 7: Kevin Diyson against the Buffalo Bills and the playoffs, and

1922
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:33,800
Speaker 7: Dison scored on the last second, you know, seventy five

1923
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:37,559
Speaker 7: yard touchdown return. But yeah, you know, he he made

1924
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:41,240
Speaker 7: maybe you know, one or two Pro bowls potentially, but

1925
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 7: because of the kind of person, well, he wasn't an

1926
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 7: uber talented, skilled, you know type player. And and you know,

1927
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 7: I believe was originally a UDFA. You know, he became

1928
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:58,200
Speaker 7: a very much beloved type of player here in Nashville.

1929
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 7: Was a great you know target for Steve McNair over

1930
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 7: the years. Uh, and and afterwards too, you know, he

1931
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 7: remained very much a part of the community for several years.

1932
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:10,880
Speaker 7: So that one comes to mind. I would say, uh,

1933
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 7: top of the top of the charts as a person

1934
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 7: that may be around the country, you know, doesn't get

1935
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:19,720
Speaker 7: as much notice, but certainly here again, I would say

1936
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:21,000
Speaker 7: a beloved type character.

1937
01:41:21,040 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna guess the foremost popular players in Titan's history.

1938
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:26,519
Speaker 2: You ready, all right?

1939
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:35,240
Speaker 1: McNair, Yeah, Eddie, George, Yep, I'll go. I'm gonna go

1940
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:36,880
Speaker 1: curveball here, Javon Curse.

1941
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:41,280
Speaker 7: Possibly, yeah, yeah, possibly.

1942
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 2: I would say carry Collins.

1943
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,320
Speaker 7: I don't know if I can give you carry Collins

1944
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 7: on the on the on the Mount Rushmore, if you will.

1945
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:56,640
Speaker 2: Okay, certainly very popular. Chris Johnson, Chris Johnson.

1946
01:41:56,880 --> 01:42:00,679
Speaker 7: Johnson, Uh would certainly be a good one.

1947
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:04,000
Speaker 2: Uh well, Kevin Dyson.

1948
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 7: Con Dyson for for what he did. Sure, I would say,

1949
01:42:07,640 --> 01:42:10,920
Speaker 7: you know, here's another one that doesn't get too much

1950
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:15,800
Speaker 7: national attention. But Derek Mason was tremendous, you know what,

1951
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:16,880
Speaker 7: tremendous wide receiver.

1952
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:19,240
Speaker 1: Just because he's an Indie native. We're gonna throw Blaine

1953
01:42:19,240 --> 01:42:20,000
Speaker 1: Bishop in there.

1954
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,519
Speaker 7: There you go, that's another good one too. Yeah, you know,

1955
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 7: he started in Houston, but certainly has some great years

1956
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 7: and Pro Bowl years for the for the Titans here

1957
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 7: as well.

1958
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:31,400
Speaker 1: Okay, John, before we let you go, I'm curious of

1959
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:36,760
Speaker 1: this and just being on the beat in Nashville that

1960
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 1: is such a growing city and such a great city,

1961
01:42:39,439 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 1: and this is both of these leagues. I'm kind of

1962
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 1: fascinated that, you know, Baseball has been one that's been rumored.

1963
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 1: I mean, when the White Sox, it seems like Naphville

1964
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:52,719
Speaker 1: always comes up in conversation between the NBA and MLB.

1965
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,800
Speaker 1: Which one is more likely to eventually land themselves a

1966
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 1: franchise in Nashville.

1967
01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:03,560
Speaker 7: That's a good question. I suspect it would be MLB,

1968
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,679
Speaker 7: you know, and you know, maybe one of the main

1969
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 7: reasons I think, you know, You've got an NBA franchise

1970
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 7: in Memphis on the other side of the state, and

1971
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 7: you know it's only three hours three three and a

1972
01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 7: half hours away, So maybe the league would probably steer

1973
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:24,520
Speaker 7: clear of that, I would think. And there's a tremendous

1974
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 7: amount of enthusiasm for for MLB here. Uh, there's no

1975
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:32,800
Speaker 7: doubt about. You know, a ton of Atlanta fans here,

1976
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:35,519
Speaker 7: a ton of Saint Louis fans, both those cities within

1977
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 7: driving distance. The one thing they don't have right now

1978
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 7: is that huge, walleted, deep pocketed guy that's gonna say, yeah,

1979
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 7: here's the money, you know, for for an expansion team.

1980
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:52,280
Speaker 7: EF that's you know, if that is indeed the case.

1981
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:56,720
Speaker 7: So you know a lot of people say maybe it's

1982
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:59,640
Speaker 7: going to start stretching the sports dollar too thin. You know,

1983
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 7: feel is not a massive city.

1984
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 1: Well, and you got the Predators there too, which are

1985
01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:06,839
Speaker 1: I mean, the Predators are a huge sell right.

1986
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, they sure are. They've they've been selling out

1987
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:12,599
Speaker 7: for a while. So that that is kind of one

1988
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 7: of the big questions if there's enough sports dollar to

1989
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:18,680
Speaker 7: go around, especially with MLB. You know, obviously you've got

1990
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 7: the eighty two home games, so Yeah, that's a that's

1991
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 7: a question mark, but I know the enthusiasm certainly is

1992
01:44:27,200 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 7: there for an expansion team.

1993
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 2: Well, John, we appreciate the time.

1994
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:34,679
Speaker 1: As always, we will probably reach out to you again

1995
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:37,880
Speaker 1: here coming up just before Halloween as a matter of fact,

1996
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 1: when the Titan step come up here and we'll see

1997
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 1: where things stand there. But certainly look forward to this

1998
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:45,160
Speaker 1: Sunday and appreciate the time and the perspective on the game.

1999
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:47,919
Speaker 7: Sounds good, all right, thanks for having me guys.

2000
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 1: John Glennon joining us from the Nashville Post. You probably

2001
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:51,479
Speaker 1: heard Eddie in the background. Did you hear one of

2002
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 1: the Bachelor parties in the background. I'm telling you that's

2003
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:58,519
Speaker 1: you do it. You're like your own human siren, is

2004
01:44:58,560 --> 01:44:59,600
Speaker 1: what you are when you do that?

2005
01:44:59,720 --> 01:44:59,920
Speaker 2: Right.

2006
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2007
01:45:00,439 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 2: When I did the moves back to back like I

2008
01:45:02,000 --> 01:45:04,080
Speaker 2: did earlier, I was like, oh, that was probably not

2009
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:06,360
Speaker 2: a good idea. It sounds a little bit like a

2010
01:45:06,360 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 2: an emergency vehicle.

2011
01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 1: And you can't do that on the radio. Yeah, I

2012
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 1: can't play those because people might be in their car now.

2013
01:45:11,880 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 1: And I can't recall you said you have or have

2014
01:45:14,280 --> 01:45:16,680
Speaker 1: not done like a weekend in Nashville. I have not

2015
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:17,880
Speaker 1: it really is.

2016
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:20,040
Speaker 2: I've done Gallenberg, but I have not done Nashville.

2017
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:22,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, for basically being an exact five hour drive,

2018
01:45:22,680 --> 01:45:24,759
Speaker 1: it really is a cool city. I mean there's a

2019
01:45:25,000 --> 01:45:28,879
Speaker 1: and the Broadway thing is. I mean it's it's basically

2020
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 1: two blocks, but it is unreal how crowded it gets

2021
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 1: and how lively it gets. And they've got a great

2022
01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:38,920
Speaker 1: They have an Amphitheater that just opened I think two

2023
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 1: years ago that is in like.

2024
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:43,000
Speaker 2: A former rock Cory.

2025
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 1: It's it's it's in Franklin, which is basically the Caramel

2026
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:49,320
Speaker 1: of Nashville, but it's on the far south side of

2027
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:52,720
Speaker 1: the city. But it is an awesome venue. Now, I

2028
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 1: was there for I believe if it wasn't the first show,

2029
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:58,640
Speaker 1: it was one of the first shows with IndyCar we

2030
01:45:58,640 --> 01:46:00,680
Speaker 1: were down there. Michael Young got his tick. It's to

2031
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:02,920
Speaker 1: see Greta Van Fleet. Are you familiar with Greta Van Fleet?

2032
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 2: Familiar with Gretavan?

2033
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:06,439
Speaker 1: They were massive, Like, there was this huge crowd and

2034
01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:09,200
Speaker 1: everybody was going crazy over it. And then and they

2035
01:46:09,200 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 1: had a couple of songs that I knew and it

2036
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:12,559
Speaker 1: was a good show. I mean, they put on a

2037
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:14,920
Speaker 1: good show. I've never heard of them since, I mean

2038
01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 1: I have, but it seems to me like they they

2039
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:20,640
Speaker 1: were going to be the next big thing, and then

2040
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:22,920
Speaker 1: they plateaued. Am I wrong in that? You're probably not

2041
01:46:22,960 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 1: wrong in that? No, Like what what level now are

2042
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:28,400
Speaker 1: they in terms of bands?

2043
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:30,360
Speaker 2: Probably a four or five if you were doing on

2044
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:34,880
Speaker 2: skill of ten. Really before when they first came out,

2045
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 2: wasn't there thought though that they were like on their

2046
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:39,600
Speaker 2: way they were they were rising up into like the

2047
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:42,479
Speaker 2: eight or ten category. Probably? Yeah, Yeah, they sound just

2048
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:43,680
Speaker 2: like led Zeppelin.

2049
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:47,040
Speaker 1: If you like literally the guy and I think he

2050
01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:49,680
Speaker 1: even was like kind of dressed like led Zeppelin. I mean,

2051
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 1: it was a little bit like if they were very good.

2052
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:55,880
Speaker 1: But for a second I felt like I was, you know,

2053
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:57,320
Speaker 1: it was they were going to come out and say

2054
01:46:57,360 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 1: like it's get the leadout. You're led Zeppelin tribute band.

2055
01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 1: And before the show we Michael Young hooked us up

2056
01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 1: somehow with He's like, yeah, I have passes in here

2057
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 1: where we can go in and like get a beer

2058
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 1: or whatever. And we were in this little area behind

2059
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:14,400
Speaker 1: the stages. The warmup band was playing, and they they

2060
01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:16,680
Speaker 1: brought out this little thing with food on it, and

2061
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:20,200
Speaker 1: I went and got some food and kind of not

2062
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 1: cut in front of this guy, but I got essentially

2063
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 1: the last of the food offering, and the guy behind

2064
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 1: me looked very dejected fo disappointed. The food was good.

2065
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 1: And then I found out that the guy that that

2066
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:35,320
Speaker 1: the food was actually for the band. And I didn't

2067
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:37,000
Speaker 1: realize it, but we were in the little area with

2068
01:47:37,080 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 1: the band, so there's a little there's a little guy

2069
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:42,040
Speaker 1: in like a leisure suit, and I'm just like, oh sorry,

2070
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that.

2071
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 2: This food was for you. That's a yate. Yeah, it

2072
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,320
Speaker 2: was a little uncomfortable, but the band, they put on

2073
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:47,920
Speaker 2: a decent show.

2074
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:51,759
Speaker 1: But anyway, it is for and I would I haven't

2075
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,400
Speaker 1: heard of I would assume there are a lot of

2076
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:56,760
Speaker 1: people heading down there right heading down for the game

2077
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 1: from Indy.

2078
01:47:57,280 --> 01:47:58,759
Speaker 2: Tickets would be cheap, driveable.

2079
01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 1: What do you think that? What's right now? What is

2080
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:04,400
Speaker 1: the going the the the entry price.

2081
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:06,720
Speaker 2: Fifty nine dollars, that's my guess. Fifty nine dollars.

2082
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:08,759
Speaker 1: All right, we'll look it up. I'll go with forty

2083
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:10,720
Speaker 1: one bucks. One guy that is going to be there,

2084
01:48:10,720 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, and he joins us next that sounds like Zeppelin,

2085
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 1: doesn't it it's a good song. Yeah, I can hear it,

2086
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:19,639
Speaker 1: and they put on a good show, great van fleet.

2087
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 1: But but there was definitely part of it where I

2088
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 1: was like, is this a led Zeppelin tribute band joining us?

2089
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 4: Now?

2090
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 2: He is the Robert Plant of the NFL play by

2091
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:31,240
Speaker 2: play announcers. I was thinking about this Jake because he

2092
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 2: goes on the morning show on Fridays and he has

2093
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 2: this little section of the conversation where it's Taylor's tidbits.

2094
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 2: I was thinking maybe we were phrases, you know, in

2095
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 2: some way or for him to where it it's time

2096
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,719
Speaker 2: to get tailored, or it's time to visit the tailor.

2097
01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 1: It's time to get tailored. Typically, if you get tailored,

2098
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:50,439
Speaker 1: you're getting an orange fluff caake from Taylor's Bakery. And

2099
01:48:50,479 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 1: I think Matt Taylor'd be cool with that, right if

2100
01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:55,519
Speaker 1: I said that that's what that should be. Getting tailored

2101
01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 1: should be reserved for. Let's ask Matt what what he'd

2102
01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 1: liked to be our third they visit to me known

2103
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 1: as Matt Taylor joins us, Now, any thoughts on that?

2104
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:04,679
Speaker 2: Matt?

2105
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,519
Speaker 9: Hey, listen, it's your show. You can do whatever you want.

2106
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:10,759
Speaker 9: Those are the rules they put when they put your name.

2107
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 7: On it, you can do whatever you want.

2108
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:15,840
Speaker 9: Listen, we can visit, we can visit the tailor and

2109
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:17,800
Speaker 9: I'll do your end theme and I'll make sure you

2110
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 9: got you know, the proper length and it's it's cut

2111
01:49:20,200 --> 01:49:21,160
Speaker 9: and trim and.

2112
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:23,639
Speaker 2: That's good to look, all right, fair enough.

2113
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 1: And I do like the fact that I don't agree

2114
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 1: with you necessarily on the fact that if my name's

2115
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 1: on it, I can do what I want.

2116
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:31,000
Speaker 2: But you know, I am. I do have my feet

2117
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 2: up on the desk right now for what that's.

2118
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 3: Well, well, it's not my show.

2119
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 1: I can tell you that, all right, Well it is

2120
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 1: now at least when you're on Okay, let's get to this.

2121
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:43,960
Speaker 1: And that is the good news is when it comes

2122
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 1: to the Coltons and Titans, the Colts, excuse me, and

2123
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 1: Titans on Sunday, looks like from the Indianapolis standpoint, the

2124
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 1: health report is good or at least better today than yesterday.

2125
01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 2: Correct.

2126
01:49:55,600 --> 01:50:00,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, the non contact jersey, you know, the red jersey

2127
01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:03,599
Speaker 9: that guys in the concussion protocol where to make sure

2128
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 9: that they can get through all the different five steps

2129
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:10,760
Speaker 9: of the process of the concussion protocol. You know, Tarvarius

2130
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 9: Ward is is out of that are those steps I

2131
01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 9: should say. So he's back at practice in full yesterday.

2132
01:50:17,120 --> 01:50:20,919
Speaker 9: I would think that his designation today would be similar.

2133
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:25,040
Speaker 9: And then of course Tyler Warren and Josh Dowens were

2134
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:27,640
Speaker 9: back at practice today, which was good. I think it

2135
01:50:27,720 --> 01:50:30,640
Speaker 9: was more of a precaution rest day, you know, for

2136
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 9: both guys. It's a long season.

2137
01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:32,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

2138
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Speaker 9: You know, Warren played over sixty snaps, which is a

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01:50:35,960 --> 01:50:39,680
Speaker 9: lot for a tight end in week two, so you know,

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01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:42,800
Speaker 9: just kind of monitoring things, uh, you know, just keeping

2141
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:46,559
Speaker 9: an eye on guys's usage and you know, just the

2142
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 9: wear and tear in their body. So kind of a

2143
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 9: normal thing to be, you know, cautious on Wednesday, but

2144
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:55,320
Speaker 9: good to see them back out today and uh trending

2145
01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:58,800
Speaker 9: towards you know, being fully available for for Sunday and

2146
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,759
Speaker 9: same thing layouts. Latsu, I think he was limited yesterday.

2147
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 9: We'll see what that says today. But it'd be big

2148
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:07,000
Speaker 9: on the defensive side of the ball to get both

2149
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 9: Ward and Latsu back to difference makers, you know, within

2150
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:12,559
Speaker 9: their respective layers of that defense.

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01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:17,960
Speaker 1: Matt, let me give you an observation from Afar and

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01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:21,360
Speaker 1: then you tell me as somebody who is much closer

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01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 1: to it, if if I'm even within the ballpark of accurate,

2154
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 1: because I think this may be completely inaccurate. Okay, but

2155
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 1: the my outside observation is that Daniel Jones is kind

2156
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:37,919
Speaker 1: of one of those leaders that you know, the quarterback

2157
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 1: naturally is the leader of the team. I mean there's

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01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:42,919
Speaker 1: just by you just are and when you're the quarterback,

2159
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 1: and leadership comes in a lot of different forms. I've

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01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 1: always said that in Matt, I think you were around

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01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:50,760
Speaker 1: it when Peyton Manning would turn the corner in the

2162
01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 1: locker room, it was like, I mean that was he

2163
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 1: was the alpha and there was no question everything.

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01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:56,920
Speaker 3: Everybody shut up right totally.

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01:51:56,960 --> 01:51:58,800
Speaker 1: Like it was like what and he didn't have to

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01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:01,120
Speaker 1: say anything. I mean he was and asking that of people.

2167
01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 1: It just happened that way, right.

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01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:04,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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01:52:04,720 --> 01:52:08,639
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones to me, and we don't know him well,

2170
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:12,439
Speaker 1: but he strikes me as the kind of guy that

2171
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 1: isn't a push to chest out, an overly vociferous like

2172
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:19,479
Speaker 1: raw rop pat on the back, lifting up teammates kind

2173
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:23,440
Speaker 1: of guy, but rather a I've just got my playbook

2174
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:25,639
Speaker 1: and I keep my nose down and I do what's

2175
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 1: asked of me, and I turn my homework in on time,

2176
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:31,840
Speaker 1: and therefore guys have learned to respect that I've gone

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01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:34,960
Speaker 1: about it that way and that's my form of leadership.

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01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:36,960
Speaker 1: Any accuracy to that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you nailed it spot on, to be

2180
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:42,800
Speaker 9: honest with you, because that's exactly what I see too.

2181
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:46,840
Speaker 9: And when i'm you know, noticing the vibe and the

2182
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 9: energy in the locker room, I pick up on the

2183
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:55,120
Speaker 9: same things where guys Daniel's not, You're right. I mean,

2184
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 9: Daniel's not like you know, he's not going to point

2185
01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:01,479
Speaker 9: at guys and scream in guy's face when they make

2186
01:53:01,560 --> 01:53:04,720
Speaker 9: a mistake, but he is He's not going to just

2187
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 9: let those things go too.

2188
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:08,200
Speaker 3: I think there's a good little balance.

2189
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 9: There of of you know, you know, lifting guys up

2190
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:15,040
Speaker 9: but also holding guys accountable to And it's all the

2191
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:18,479
Speaker 9: stuff that he that he does for himself because he is,

2192
01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:21,600
Speaker 9: you know, to your point, very much a you know,

2193
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:27,519
Speaker 9: first guy in, last guy out, very professional, cares deeply about, uh,

2194
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 9: you know, wanting to be good. And I also think

2195
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:32,120
Speaker 9: that he has a chip on his shoulder, you know,

2196
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 9: to change the perception of his his you know, ability

2197
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 9: to play quarterback in the NFL. And I mean through

2198
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 9: two games, he is the next version of you know,

2199
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:47,559
Speaker 9: whatever you want to say, Geno Smith or Sam Darnold

2200
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 9: or Baker Mayfield career resurgence, you know, guy that goes

2201
01:53:51,200 --> 01:53:54,880
Speaker 9: to a different you know, setting a new team. You know,

2202
01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:57,160
Speaker 9: seems to be fitting in greatly with Shane Steichen.

2203
01:53:57,320 --> 01:53:59,599
Speaker 3: So far, so good, absolutely.

2204
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:03,320
Speaker 9: Through two games. But he's a quiet guy, but also

2205
01:54:03,479 --> 01:54:05,520
Speaker 9: is very intentional about everything.

2206
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:05,639
Speaker 7: That he does.

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01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:08,719
Speaker 9: I mean you're hearing stories about how he's inviting guys

2208
01:54:08,760 --> 01:54:11,000
Speaker 9: to go to dinner and you know they're going to

2209
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:14,040
Speaker 9: go bowling. And I mean if you just walk down

2210
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:17,320
Speaker 9: to the cafeteria, you know, five days a week, Monday

2211
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:19,679
Speaker 9: through Friday, you see him sitting with a different guy

2212
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:22,599
Speaker 9: or a different group of guys every single day because

2213
01:54:22,600 --> 01:54:25,440
Speaker 9: he's just trying to be intentional about connecting with everybody

2214
01:54:25,479 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 9: on the team. And I think you're right. I think

2215
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 9: you hit on something that's really important. It's really the

2216
01:54:31,080 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 9: way that we, for whatever reason, how we've gotten here

2217
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 9: as a football society, how we judge quarterbacks and how

2218
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 9: we put so much on their plate.

2219
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:40,160
Speaker 7: It's it's really unfair.

2220
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:43,240
Speaker 9: I mean, we have quarterback power rankings that come out

2221
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:46,200
Speaker 9: every week and you know, we scrutinize every throw that

2222
01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:48,640
Speaker 9: they make. You know, one week they're great, the next

2223
01:54:48,640 --> 01:54:51,520
Speaker 9: week they're a bum. I mean, we're just so fickle

2224
01:54:51,560 --> 01:54:54,840
Speaker 9: about it. But you know, the way Daniel Jones has

2225
01:54:54,840 --> 01:54:57,800
Speaker 9: been able to come in here and you know, really

2226
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 9: provide the the culture of team, and I think that's

2227
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:04,760
Speaker 9: something that you know, the Colts were interested in too

2228
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 9: to see how that played out when they named him

2229
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:08,600
Speaker 9: as the starting quarterback, because that's something else. I mean,

2230
01:55:09,240 --> 01:55:10,760
Speaker 9: not only do you have to know the playbook and

2231
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:12,280
Speaker 9: you have to know all the guys, and you have

2232
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:15,240
Speaker 9: to know all the little interacies of the offense, but

2233
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:17,840
Speaker 9: you know, it's unfair for the quarterback to sort of

2234
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:20,800
Speaker 9: be in charge of the culture in the atmosphere of.

2235
01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 3: The locker room.

2236
01:55:21,400 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 9: But you know, that's what he's done and in short

2237
01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:26,080
Speaker 9: order as well. So again I've said this a million

2238
01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:28,760
Speaker 9: times that the biggest compliment I can give Daniel Jones

2239
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 9: is that he does not at all look like a

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Speaker 9: guy that's only been here since March. He looks like

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01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:35,040
Speaker 9: he's been a part of this team now for three

2242
01:55:35,040 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 9: to four years. Based on the level of respect that

2243
01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:40,879
Speaker 9: you know, all the guys have for him, and certainly

2244
01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:43,760
Speaker 9: you you get more respect when you know you put

2245
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 9: in all the work and then you just ball out

2246
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 9: the way that he's done in the first two games

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01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 9: of the season for Colts.

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01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 1: You know, Matt, you talk about you know, just like

2249
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:54,480
Speaker 1: the in the cafeteria, like in the facility, or you know,

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Speaker 1: in the downtime, And there is downtime that does take

2251
01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:58,840
Speaker 1: place when these guys are around each other as much

2252
01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:00,840
Speaker 1: as they are, even though there's meeting and films and

2253
01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:04,480
Speaker 1: all that. And I've asked this before, I think, but

2254
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:08,440
Speaker 1: to players. But I'm curious if you have observed this.

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01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:12,440
Speaker 1: It would be my feeling that if you were running

2256
01:56:12,480 --> 01:56:17,600
Speaker 1: an NFL franchise, your defensive backs and your receivers. I

2257
01:56:17,680 --> 01:56:19,880
Speaker 1: know that they go into different rooms and they're you know,

2258
01:56:19,920 --> 01:56:23,280
Speaker 1: they're they're different units with different coaches. But it seems

2259
01:56:23,320 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 1: as though it would be who of your organization to

2260
01:56:25,680 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 1: have those guys interact a lot together because of the

2261
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:33,040
Speaker 1: fact that a receiver when he's lining, you know, if

2262
01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 1: he's talking to the defensive backs on his roster, he

2263
01:56:36,160 --> 01:56:38,160
Speaker 1: can get an idea of what's in the head of

2264
01:56:38,200 --> 01:56:41,200
Speaker 1: a dB and like and vice versa, right, so that

2265
01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 1: they are getting an idea of what the opposition that's

2266
01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:48,560
Speaker 1: trying to shut them down on a Sunday has in mind,

2267
01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:50,720
Speaker 1: and vice versa. Do you see any of that at

2268
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 1: all in terms of guys talking to their own teammates

2269
01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:58,680
Speaker 1: to get an idea of what the opposition would be

2270
01:56:58,760 --> 01:56:59,440
Speaker 1: doing for them.

2271
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:03,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, great point. All the time. It happens all the time.

2272
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:05,800
Speaker 9: You know, you see those guys talking to each other

2273
01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 9: in the locker room. You know, they're sitting next to

2274
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 9: each other, and you know at their locker stalls, you know,

2275
01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:14,320
Speaker 9: going through their iPads and watching film and.

2276
01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 3: Breaking down the playbook.

2277
01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:18,560
Speaker 9: And you also see it too. And I think this

2278
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:22,400
Speaker 9: is really important. And I don't know if this happens everywhere,

2279
01:57:22,440 --> 01:57:25,400
Speaker 9: but I have seen it happen here multiple times over

2280
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:30,440
Speaker 9: the years where the defensive coordinator or at the very

2281
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:33,800
Speaker 9: least a secondary coach, you know, guy that's overseeing both

2282
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:38,760
Speaker 9: cornerbacks and safeties, will sit down with the quarterback and say,

2283
01:57:39,160 --> 01:57:41,640
Speaker 9: this is like if we saw this play from the

2284
01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:44,240
Speaker 9: Colts offense, this is how we would we would attack it.

2285
01:57:45,160 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 9: Or you know, if you're a young quarterback, it's like,

2286
01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:51,600
Speaker 9: you know, teach me your way of interpreting defense. You know,

2287
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:55,360
Speaker 9: when I see you know, the second just throwing out

2288
01:57:55,480 --> 01:57:58,320
Speaker 9: just you know, random examples, right if you see, you know,

2289
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:00,800
Speaker 9: a safety dropping the box and this coverage or in

2290
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:04,080
Speaker 9: this situation in the red zone, this is more likely

2291
01:58:04,120 --> 01:58:06,440
Speaker 9: than not what they're trying to do here. So you know,

2292
01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:08,680
Speaker 9: even though they're on different sides of the ball, there's

2293
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,720
Speaker 9: a lot of crossover and a lot of help between

2294
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:15,600
Speaker 9: you know, offense and defense, players and coaches throughout the

2295
01:58:15,640 --> 01:58:17,720
Speaker 9: course of a seventeen game season in the NFL.

2296
01:58:17,760 --> 01:58:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard it, Matt, but I

2297
01:58:19,600 --> 01:58:22,240
Speaker 1: think it was to the beginning of this week. I

2298
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:25,120
Speaker 1: played some audio and look, I know in Indianapolis, the

2299
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, playing quotes from Tom Brady, you know, isn't

2300
01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:33,000
Speaker 1: exactly the most probably a popular thing, but Brady was

2301
01:58:33,040 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 1: on I think it was I'm Not Much show. He

2302
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:38,960
Speaker 1: was on colic Ouhard, Yeah, and he was talking about

2303
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:42,560
Speaker 1: when he was a young quarterback when he first took

2304
01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:48,640
Speaker 1: over for Drew Bledsoe. Unfortunately, tragically, the quarterbacks coach for

2305
01:58:49,240 --> 01:58:52,520
Speaker 1: the Patriots at the time, passed away of an unexpected

2306
01:58:52,560 --> 01:58:57,920
Speaker 1: lead during camp, so Bill Belichick overtook the quarterback coach role.

2307
01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:00,040
Speaker 1: Even though he was the head coach. So Brady he

2308
01:59:00,160 --> 01:59:04,000
Speaker 1: talked about how, basically the first year that he was

2309
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:07,440
Speaker 1: learning the quarterbacking position, he was learning it by Belichick

2310
01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:10,200
Speaker 1: saying to him, Look, I can't tell you about footwork

2311
01:59:10,240 --> 01:59:12,040
Speaker 1: and rotation or what else, but I can tell you

2312
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:15,600
Speaker 1: about every defense you're going to see. And you know

2313
01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:18,840
Speaker 1: what I mean. And so he was learning it from

2314
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:22,480
Speaker 1: the outside in and as a result of that, and

2315
01:59:22,520 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 1: you could see it, and I think you can see

2316
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:26,800
Speaker 1: it with Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck in the fact

2317
01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:29,880
Speaker 1: that those guys were human computers that could look over

2318
01:59:29,960 --> 01:59:33,280
Speaker 1: a defense and their biggest strength was in looking at

2319
01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:36,200
Speaker 1: an alignment and figuring out what the best play was

2320
01:59:36,400 --> 01:59:38,560
Speaker 1: or how to get out of a bad play. And

2321
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:42,240
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones strikes me as the kind of guy that

2322
01:59:42,440 --> 01:59:45,720
Speaker 1: has a similar process. May not go as deep into

2323
01:59:45,720 --> 01:59:49,960
Speaker 1: his checks, but is able to determine and quickly figure

2324
01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:52,960
Speaker 1: out and process what's going to work. Has that been

2325
01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:54,400
Speaker 1: your assessment through two games?

2326
01:59:55,000 --> 01:59:55,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

2327
01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:58,280
Speaker 9: And you know, just to piggyback off the Tom Brady saying,

2328
01:59:58,280 --> 02:00:02,600
Speaker 9: I mean that famous you know video footage of him,

2329
02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:07,000
Speaker 9: you know in that droopy you know long collared, you

2330
02:00:07,040 --> 02:00:09,520
Speaker 9: know white t shirt at the combine. I mean, he

2331
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:13,560
Speaker 9: looks like my neighbor, very physically unimpressive, right, But I

2332
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:16,920
Speaker 9: mean that was Tom Brady's superpower was he was an

2333
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:21,080
Speaker 9: average quarterback in terms of athleticism, but the super computer

2334
02:00:21,200 --> 02:00:24,240
Speaker 9: part that you just brought up, that that's where he

2335
02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:28,160
Speaker 9: was just different. And then you took that mental ability

2336
02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:30,880
Speaker 9: and you paired that with a guy like Bill Belichick

2337
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:33,920
Speaker 9: to bring the best out of him with a football IQ,

2338
02:00:34,160 --> 02:00:35,920
Speaker 9: and then he was just off the charts as he

2339
02:00:35,960 --> 02:00:39,600
Speaker 9: continued to grow and develop, you know physically in the NFL.

2340
02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 9: But yeah, Daniel Jones has that too, and I think

2341
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:47,160
Speaker 9: he's even probably well, I know, definitively way more athletics

2342
02:00:47,160 --> 02:00:50,440
Speaker 9: than Tom Brady ever was at any point.

2343
02:00:50,200 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 3: In his career.

2344
02:00:51,480 --> 02:00:54,320
Speaker 9: So you you pair the mental part of the game

2345
02:00:54,920 --> 02:00:59,920
Speaker 9: with Daniel Jones and his deceptive running ability and you know,

2346
02:01:00,040 --> 02:01:02,400
Speaker 9: being able to get out of the pocket and extend

2347
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:04,560
Speaker 9: plays and get first downs, and I think you really

2348
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:07,760
Speaker 9: have something. And you know, truth be told, that's where

2349
02:01:07,800 --> 02:01:10,120
Speaker 9: I think he won the job. That's how I think

2350
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Speaker 9: he won the job over Anthony Richardson, is that at

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Speaker 9: this stage in their careers, you know, presently speaking Daniel

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Speaker 9: Jones is just further along with pre snap recognition and

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Speaker 9: being able to get the Colts into good plays and

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Speaker 9: out of bad plays. I mean, obviously Anthony Richardson has

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Speaker 9: all of the physical tools, but it was just the

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Speaker 9: mental side where I think Daniel Jones had the leg up.

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Speaker 9: And again through two games, the Colts have been completely

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Speaker 9: validated in making that choice.

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Speaker 2: I noticed that when you wanted to give the stereotype

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Speaker 2: of just your average non athletic guy, you went with

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Speaker 2: your neighbor and not yourself. Right he looked he looked

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Speaker 2: more like a fat guy.

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Speaker 9: Right, Well, just insert cliche here. You know you can

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Speaker 9: do the what was it is it?

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Speaker 3: Bill Toby?

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Speaker 9: You know my my postman knows more of out football

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Speaker 9: than melt Kiper. You know I could have said my.

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Speaker 3: Mom or postman or neighbor or whatever. Right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Well, Matt certainly enjoyed Nashville. You hope you will hear

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Speaker 1: plenty of this in the background, Eddie.

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Speaker 2: From the bachelorette parties.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see if you hear it from Colts fans

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Speaker 1: that make the drive down, because hopefully will be a

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Speaker 1: good day for the Colts on Sunday, but we shall

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Speaker 1: see and we will be listening as well. Appreciate the

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Speaker 1: time as always, Matt.

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Speaker 9: All right, I'll count them up for you. I'll just

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Speaker 9: you know, I'll go from here to the sports bar,

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Speaker 9: the hotel of the sports bar, and count how many

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Speaker 9: bachelorette parties I see just for you.

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Speaker 1: I mean over under a six on a half block drive.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you that right now, no question.

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Speaker 9: There's at least eight hundred in the general area.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that is correct. All right, Matt, We'll be listening.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it, all right. See you guys, Matt Taylor, the

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Speaker 1: Voice of the Colts. You just got tailored. That's not bad.

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Speaker 1: Actually that's not bad. But you just got tailored, not bad.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I guess I like, you know what I

2389
02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:00,839
Speaker 1: like getting to like when I got a suit tailored.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like it because, you know, like I

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Speaker 1: feel like, all of a sudden I'm felt, even though

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Speaker 1: I'm not, but you know, like like they're they're himming

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Speaker 1: things up.

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Speaker 2: Jacob was proud of your maturity when he said that

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Speaker 2: he could get your enseam and make sure it was

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Speaker 2: all tight and snug. Well, you know, I am, in

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Speaker 2: fact maturing. Thank you for noticing jmb's up next.

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Speaker 1: What do the crossover brought to you by Love Heating

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Speaker 1: and Air Love dash HVAC dot com three one seven,

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Speaker 1: three five three twenty one forty one. We will find

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Speaker 1: out what John has lined up for his big program.

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Speaker 2: We'll do it next.

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Speaker 1: One of the notable alums of You Can't Do That

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Speaker 1: on television a lot OF's Morris set, JMV is that's

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Speaker 1: who were singing that song. By the way, JMV is

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Speaker 1: up north at the District Tap North Side, fabulous place

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Speaker 1: on eighty second Street. It is technically eighty second because

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Speaker 1: it is just to the east of the David Wolfe

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Speaker 1: That's where it crosses over from eighty sixth Street.

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Speaker 2: John Big Show lined up right, Big.

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Speaker 5: Show lined I love the District Tap on the north

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Speaker 5: side downtown. It is a fantastic place. Michael Pittman Junior

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Speaker 5: on the show a little bit later on. Obviously a

2414
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Speaker 5: tremendous role so far with the Colts as they started

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Speaker 5: to and I we'll get the Titans on Sunday My

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Speaker 5: chapel later on. Brent Halversta De and I with our picks.

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Speaker 5: The samples always flow here as well. Every Thursday, Love

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Speaker 5: it up here, please with Jake. I hit up the

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Speaker 5: Carmel for the first time Goodwill and it was the

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Speaker 5: mother load brothers. Oh, I mean, I'm sure mother load

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Speaker 5: up with. Yes, I bought a lot of Ralph Lauren stuff.

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Speaker 5: Shout out to Hamilton County and Carmel for that. So

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Speaker 5: if you happen to come down here later on today

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Speaker 5: and I'm wearing your shirt, give me a shout out

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Speaker 5: what'd you? Because I might be.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of these days, I'm going to know

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Speaker 1: that you went to one of the places near where

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Speaker 1: I live. If you're wearing something one of the four

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixty four Verizon or IndyCar series shirts that

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Speaker 1: I took out there, you know what.

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Speaker 2: I mean telling you?

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Speaker 5: I know I do, though I have not seen it yet,

2433
02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:14,840
Speaker 5: but people have noticed before where you can find like

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Speaker 5: a JMV takeover or a JMV shirt at some of

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Speaker 5: these places. I don't know whether to be thrilled, thrilled

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Speaker 5: or disappointed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly right.

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Speaker 5: It happens.

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Speaker 2: It does happened for sure.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about this earlier, and you know, with

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Speaker 1: people getting ready, and I would assume they're a fair

2442
02:05:30,760 --> 02:05:32,120
Speaker 1: amount of people that are going to go down for

2443
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Speaker 1: the game this weekend in Nashville because Nashville is a

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Speaker 1: cool place, destination, place to go. And then somehow that

2445
02:05:38,400 --> 02:05:41,880
Speaker 1: segued in my mind into times where you went on

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Speaker 1: the road to go see your favorite team play, or

2447
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:47,880
Speaker 1: when you went to a concert that you were super

2448
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:51,640
Speaker 1: excited about and either experience totally sucked. Anything come to

2449
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Speaker 1: mind you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the toilet known as Arrowhead Stadium in the playoffs

2451
02:05:57,080 --> 02:05:59,480
Speaker 5: the Colts and the Chiefs. How many years ago?

2452
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Speaker 3: Was that? I hate that place?

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02:06:01,160 --> 02:06:03,200
Speaker 2: That was when you didn't you have to push a

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Speaker 2: bus out of the snow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Me and Drew Storm and Tucker Barnard had a

2456
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:12,600
Speaker 5: couple of major leaguers and me and actually ended up

2457
02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:15,480
Speaker 5: getting on ended up getting on the Weather Channel. They

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Speaker 5: actually contacted me on social media and said, hey, can

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02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:21,000
Speaker 5: we use this of these guys and you pushing these

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Speaker 5: out of the way so our bus could get up

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02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:25,680
Speaker 5: the off ramp. It was, I got hit by ice balls.

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Speaker 5: I didn't even have Colts gear on and I got

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Speaker 5: hit by ice balls. I was I was pissed and

2464
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Speaker 5: ready to be done with it. I hate Arrowhead Stadium. Okay,

2465
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Speaker 5: And then what you rode a bus back. After that,

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Speaker 5: we rode the bus back to the airport and the

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Speaker 5: pilots I think had to rest, so we ended up

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Speaker 5: getting out of there at about one in the morning.

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Speaker 5: I was spent. We had a snow storm like the

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Speaker 5: night before, and it was some odd stuff going on.

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Speaker 5: I remember, I hate that now. I love Dodger, stay

2472
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Speaker 5: at him. I've been there before. I love that there

2473
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Speaker 5: are Verie, I love going to London.

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Speaker 3: That was great.

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Speaker 5: But Arrowhead Stadium everybody talks about it being great. It's

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Speaker 5: a whole beast standard.

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Speaker 1: You know, by the way, since you were at District Tap,

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Speaker 1: you are in the neighborhood near where I grew up,

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Speaker 1: and that is also where Christian John Love grew up.

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Speaker 1: I've known those guys my entire life and they are

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Speaker 1: the absolute best.

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Speaker 2: John.

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Speaker 5: They are it is And if you got anything that

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Speaker 5: needs to be going down right now, I would check

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Speaker 5: the efficiency because we're going to get here into early fall,

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Speaker 5: then before you know, it will be in the wintertime,

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Speaker 5: rough summer, right, so make sure it's working efficiently. Lovedshvac

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Speaker 5: dot com. John and Chris Love sponsoring Jake and I

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Speaker 5: on the Crossover Daily.

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Speaker 1: John, We'll throw it out to you shortly and Michael Pittman,

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Speaker 1: jun You're going to be joining you what time.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but at some point he will, okay

2493
02:07:47,040 --> 02:07:49,840
Speaker 5: or else, So stick around and keep listening.

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Speaker 1: Is Michael Pittman, Junior Wide Receiver the Colts, and of

2495
02:07:51,920 --> 02:07:53,880
Speaker 1: course John read all of it all out there at

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Speaker 1: District Tap on the north side and it will be

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Speaker 1: going on until six o'clock. Again, our thanks over the

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Speaker 1: course of today, Tom deenheart for joining us, Tony East

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02:08:04,720 --> 02:08:07,360
Speaker 1: as well Matt Taylor. He just heard from John Glennon

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Speaker 1: down in Nashville. We will be back with you tomorrow

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Speaker 1: for a Franciscan health feel good good for the Hart Friday.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it tomorrow beginning at noon. And I thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening to Quarying Company.