Speaker 1: But have they any more? Automotive group potline, It's been
Speaker 1: somewhat of a compelling day. I'm assuming in Wissel have
Speaker 1: he yet from Golden Black Illustrated? It is our good
Speaker 1: friend Tommy d Tom Dean Hart joining us. So what
Speaker 1: of the introduction of new athletic director Tommy McClellan today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess he's gone viral for probably all the
Speaker 2: wrong reasons. Right in the moment, you know, I was
Speaker 2: sitting on the front road, John, and when you uttered that,
Speaker 2: you sort of kind of did a double take and
Speaker 2: kind of wondering.
Speaker 3: If you really heard what you thought you heard.
Speaker 2: Not sure if he was really trying to kind of
Speaker 2: do a signetty and poke the bear, poke your rival
Speaker 2: or not, or or if he just wasn't aware. I
Speaker 2: guess I use National Championship pedigre either way, kind of
Speaker 2: a dubious way to get started.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be tough to live down, is it not?
Speaker 1: When he gets started in this fashion, Tommy.
Speaker 2: Think about this. I mean, Kurt Signet doesn't need any
Speaker 2: more few for his fire, right. What's been the combined
Speaker 2: score of the last two bucket games? I think pre
Speaker 2: scored what three points this year the games in Bloomington.
Speaker 2: So again needless to say, he doesn't need any more
Speaker 2: motivation to.
Speaker 3: Really get fired up.
Speaker 2: And I can throw this log on the fire, so
Speaker 2: I know, the bucket games along the way away and
Speaker 2: and what the heck you gotta be you gotta like
Speaker 2: the moxie and and I guess the motivation of the
Speaker 2: new A D Tommy McClelland here that to come out
Speaker 2: and say something like that in his opening press conference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there probably would have been better ways to go
Speaker 1: about it. I'll give you a great example. I thought
Speaker 1: Barry owed him big ten media days. I thought he
Speaker 1: handled it great, saying, hey, this is who we want
Speaker 1: to be, this is where we want to reach. We
Speaker 1: want to do these things too. And I'm assuming Matt
Speaker 1: Painter probably would have had better advice in dialogue as well.
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like that maybe Tommy practiced that speech
Speaker 1: on anybody in particular before he gave it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he should have maybe ran it by somebody.
Speaker 2: And you know what, I get it, John, I'm sure
Speaker 2: everybody produced tired of being asked about Indiana, tired about
Speaker 2: you know, why can't we be in Indiana? Can you
Speaker 2: ever have success like Indiana, on and on it goes, right,
Speaker 2: But like you said, there are certain ways to handle
Speaker 2: that and tip your hat. You gotta tip your hat
Speaker 2: to what they've done in football. It's just been incredible,
Speaker 2: one of the greatest stories in sports history, not just
Speaker 2: college football history, but sports history.
Speaker 3: What they've been able to do in just two short years.
Speaker 2: And that run last year John to go sixteen to
Speaker 2: h multiple playoff games against that run of teams was
Speaker 2: one of the probably better runs in the history of
Speaker 2: the sport as well. So you just tip your hat
Speaker 2: and then move on, and like you said, that's a
Speaker 2: place we'd like to be one day. And then just
Speaker 2: change the subject. And if you're not asked about Indiana,
Speaker 2: certainly don't bring them up. Right, Just you're you're better,
Speaker 2: always better off in life, just taking care of yourself
Speaker 2: and not worrying about everybody, at least at this stage
Speaker 2: if you're pretty especially.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what's funny when when Signetti did that, if
Speaker 1: you're going to make a comparison to you know, I win,
Speaker 1: google me whatever what I mean? He had one Google
Speaker 1: him and just at a much lower level at the time,
Speaker 1: people thought, all right, what do you had to lose
Speaker 1: in this case. You know, what you're doing is is
Speaker 1: kind of nationwide clowning yourself, and the program doesn't want
Speaker 1: to be clowned. The football program in this case does
Speaker 1: not want to be cloud anymore than it has been
Speaker 1: on the field. That's what you're trying to make up for.
Speaker 1: You're trying to create a better environment for it. And yeah,
Speaker 1: there are ways to start, and you can start like Signetti.
Speaker 1: And obviously he backed it up and nobody thought he
Speaker 1: was going to at the time when he said that.
Speaker 1: I remember him keep being Tommy on the show and
Speaker 1: everybody was going, what are you doing? What are you saying?
Speaker 1: But he had really nothing to lose because nothing had
Speaker 1: ever really been done with that program. Unfortunately, today it
Speaker 1: went beast askwards in wessel Off he had because you
Speaker 1: just ended up being a nationwide side show, which is
Speaker 1: exactly what you don't want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, from corner to corner, from coast to coast. When
Speaker 2: you look at social media, you scroll through your Twitter,
Speaker 2: you see everybody chiming in on it, and like I said,
Speaker 2: all the wrong reasons to go viral. And you know,
Speaker 2: it's too bad, John, you know, otherwise I thought Tim
Speaker 2: McClellan did a very good job today, right. I thought
Speaker 2: he handed himself with a plumb, had a good message
Speaker 2: to deliver. Yeah, Field the most every questions. Well, but unfortunately, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: you know how things go. It's that one one area
Speaker 2: that everybody's going to focus on, just like in our life. Right,
Speaker 2: we can have the greatest life and we make that
Speaker 2: one mistake in life and that seems to define Hbut
Speaker 2: it so again, this is this is sort of a
Speaker 2: in one way, sort of a microcosm.
Speaker 3: That's unfortunate for Tommy.
Speaker 2: Like I said, he seems like a good fit, a
Speaker 2: good guy for Prdue, but just just uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm missed up that. I'm sure he's going to regret
Speaker 2: hindsight and you kind of maybe over time this sort
Speaker 2: of dissipace, but right now it's it's it's been blasted,
Speaker 2: like I said, from from coast to coast, especially on
Speaker 2: social media.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was a scripted material, to which I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's one thing where you just go you
Speaker 1: say that, oh man, that was in the moment off
Speaker 1: the top of my head, but that being on the
Speaker 1: script wasn't great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was scripted, and yeah, like I said it,
Speaker 2: it'd be kind of nice at some point to talk
Speaker 2: to him. I don't know, Yeah, I kind of want
Speaker 2: to hear from him. Yeah, this has become the story
Speaker 2: unfortunately right in a lot of ways, reached a very
Speaker 2: big part of the story of today. And it's almost
Speaker 2: you kind of wonder what the thinking was, well, what
Speaker 2: his intent was in that in that uh, in that statement.
Speaker 2: So here we are talking about it, like I said,
Speaker 2: and it's uh, just sort of a midstep right out
Speaker 2: of the gate for the new pre athletic director.
Speaker 1: That's Tom dean Hart of Golden Black Illustrated. So what
Speaker 1: do you expect out of him outside of putting his
Speaker 1: foot in his mouth in this introductory press conference today?
Speaker 2: Finding new streams for revenue, That's that's kind of the
Speaker 2: bus the buzz phrase now right. You know, we met
Speaker 2: with Mike Blebenski last Monday and we asked him what
Speaker 2: the next marching order would be for the for his
Speaker 2: credit for his successor and finding new revenue streams that's
Speaker 2: the big one. We see uniform patches become one of
Speaker 2: those sources of revenue and and you.
Speaker 3: Have to be creative.
Speaker 2: I think he's going to look for ways to use
Speaker 2: ross Aid Stadium and Mackie Arena outside of just pre
Speaker 2: exclusive sporting events, whatever it is. You know, he's done
Speaker 2: a good job raising money in finding revenue streams at
Speaker 2: places that don't have a lot of athletic built in advantages,
Speaker 2: like Rice and like Varider Building in particular. So, uh,
Speaker 2: he's used to challenges, challenges, and he's used to raising money.
Speaker 2: He's been very good at raising money, and that seems
Speaker 2: to be a big part of anybody's job in athletic
Speaker 2: administration Today. John is raising money for the continuing rising
Speaker 2: cost of He's putting these rosters together from a year
Speaker 2: to year because you know, the price is not going down.
Speaker 1: How do you do that? What do you think the
Speaker 1: protocol is going to be at Purdue to do that?
Speaker 1: And have they been late to the game of really
Speaker 1: truly getting on board or is this kind of the
Speaker 1: situation with the hand they were dealt when nil became
Speaker 1: so prevalent as it is now it's.
Speaker 2: Kind of hard to tell what numbers are real and
Speaker 2: really who's doing what. Everybody here kind of gets the
Speaker 2: sense Purdue is maybe a little bit behind the eight ball,
Speaker 2: if I'm being honest, If you ask most people. I
Speaker 2: think the basketball team has been well taken care of.
Speaker 2: A lot of times we're told, well, the Purdue alums
Speaker 2: don't have a real appetite for nil, but everybody has
Speaker 2: an appetite for winning, right, And uh, there's like I said,
Speaker 2: they sure support that basketball team with nil. You never
Speaker 2: hear about player of defections and a lot of that's
Speaker 2: Matt Painters just mojo in chemistry. He's really built quite
Speaker 2: a you know, the corny family atmosphere.
Speaker 3: But it's legit.
Speaker 2: And but again, like I said, my point being, they
Speaker 2: have to retain their basketball players. Pretty hasn't retained one
Speaker 2: football player the last three or four years that that
Speaker 2: another school wanted will help, you know, Dylan Thienemann, Max Claire,
Speaker 2: Nick Scorton, on and on. It's gone pretty much every
Speaker 2: prey football player that has some other bigger school wanted,
Speaker 2: they got and pretty couldn't keep them.
Speaker 3: That's tight.
Speaker 2: He's got to got to turn and uh, at some
Speaker 2: point what comes first at chicken of the A You're
Speaker 2: gonna have to poney up and trusting your coach. Increase
Speaker 2: the funds because again you hear some of the off
Speaker 2: season talk forty million dollars rosters of being built right now,
Speaker 2: John can meet the refshare max right twenty two million,
Speaker 2: but it's that next level, the nil money that really
Speaker 2: separates these programs.
Speaker 3: It seems like.
Speaker 1: Tom Dean out of Golden Black illustrated. Before I let
Speaker 1: you go, what's your expectation for Barry Odam and your
Speaker 1: number two up there? And I guess your expectation and
Speaker 1: the fan base expectation because you would expect I would
Speaker 1: guess a lot of growth in your number two. Is
Speaker 1: that what we're going to see?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think it's a little more stable this year. The
Speaker 2: roster there wasn't as much turnover. I think the coaching
Speaker 2: staff's been tweaked in a positive direction. I am told
Speaker 2: ticket sales are down. I'm not sure how down they are,
Speaker 2: but they are down. It's going to be very interesting
Speaker 2: to see John when you're Indiana State Sycamore's rolling here
Speaker 2: on September fourth, that Friday night.
Speaker 3: What the crowd looks like?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And then next week for a game at High and
Speaker 3: UN against Wake Forest.
Speaker 2: Two huge games and as far as the expectations, you know,
Speaker 2: Las Vegas has set the overrunder win total at three
Speaker 2: and a half you're gonna take the over or the under,
Speaker 2: And I think right now I'm still inclined to take
Speaker 2: the under.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at three and nine.
Speaker 2: And if they lose that Wake Forest game, boy, the
Speaker 2: hill got that much steeper. So three and nine, four
Speaker 2: and eight I think would be progressing. You know what,
Speaker 2: two would be progressed, John, don't get totally wiped out
Speaker 2: by Notre Dame in Indiana.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would. Yeah, just a lot of character builders
Speaker 1: going on right there. And you know what, Tommy and
Speaker 1: closing here, it's easier said than done considering what's transpired
Speaker 1: with your biggest rival in the past two years, and
Speaker 1: that also gets stacked on top of you, and you
Speaker 1: know that's that's the part of this whole deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And they got Order Dame to the North and
Speaker 2: Indiana the South. Now two of the what top five
Speaker 2: programs in the nation and produced is trying to be
Speaker 2: that little train that could and get its head above
Speaker 2: the water and just get the respectability. They'd pray to
Speaker 2: go six and six at this point. So the challenge
Speaker 2: is mighty for Barry. You owed him and company, and
Speaker 2: we'll see what he can do. And he's gonna need
Speaker 2: all the support and all the resources that his new boss,
Speaker 2: Tommy McClellan can give him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe he should have said Indiana state instead of Indiana.
Speaker 1: I think that was on the script.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 2: It's incredible. Man, he'll again and it's just unfortunate. That's
Speaker 2: that's gonna be the fining moment from this press conference.
Speaker 2: And Tommy's got to own it.
Speaker 1: Man, he does. I'd be curious to see how when
Speaker 1: he gets asked the questions, how he responds to that.
Speaker 2: Tommy, Yeah, that would say a lot. And sometimes you're
Speaker 2: better off. Maybe just admitting you, man, you're always better off.
Speaker 2: I think admitting you made a mistake, instead of doubling
Speaker 2: down on things.
Speaker 1: Oh well, we all come up with jokes or cracks
Speaker 1: that don't go over very well. We have to double
Speaker 1: back and say, hey, you know that was my attempt
Speaker 1: at being funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, instead of trying to justify it or talk you
Speaker 2: away around and I think you're better off sometimes just
Speaker 2: own it and saying, look, I probably shouldn't have said
Speaker 2: what I said. It was a misstatement, and you know, respect,
Speaker 2: we respect Indiana and and we look forward to competing
Speaker 2: with them in the fuse.
Speaker 3: Just keep it generic.
Speaker 2: And uh, but then again, you don't want to continue
Speaker 2: to breathe life into something. Right, The more you keep rain,
Speaker 2: you breathe life into and it continues to live. You
Speaker 2: know what the news cycle is like.
Speaker 3: Things.
Speaker 2: Things move off our radar quick, John, They move off
Speaker 2: our radar quick.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying this.
Speaker 2: Well, it's always gonna be in the back of mind
Speaker 2: of Indiana fans are pretty fans, but it moves off
Speaker 2: the national radars quick.
Speaker 3: And we went.
Speaker 2: From Diana Russini being the hottest thing in America to
Speaker 2: whatever is next? And and that's again our attention SPAN's
Speaker 2: gonna be very fleeting in social media age especially.
Speaker 1: Wow, what a crap water world you just described right there.
Speaker 1: We live. That's a part of it. Thanks Tommy, Thanks
Speaker 1: for justifying the crap water we're in right here. Thanks Pal,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you.
Speaker 3: All Right, my friend, we'll be talking.
Speaker 1: That is Tommy Deeds. I'm Dean Hart of Golden Black,
Speaker 1: illustrated on the Andy Moore Auto Motive group hootline. Hey,
Speaker 1: tomorrow night's going to be a big night for us
Speaker 1: all because if you're like me and a member of
Speaker 1: Generation X, one of the all time greatest artists will
Speaker 1: be on the stage along with the English Beat, Wang
Speaker 1: Chung and Modern English. The headliner, he's spit on the
Speaker 1: show before, and he's one of the nicest humans you
Speaker 1: will ever meet. It is Howard Jones. Tomorrow night, everwise Amphitheater.
Speaker 1: We'll see you all there, and Howard's kind enough to
Speaker 1: join us now here on the ride with me. JMV. Howard,
Speaker 1: thank you for the time. How are you, sir?
Speaker 5: I'm very well psych you. Thank you. JMV. It's very
Speaker 5: very kind of you to give such a great introduction.
Speaker 1: You are seriously every time you come to town, whether it's
Speaker 1: here or down in Brown County in Nashville. As I've
Speaker 1: seen you before, you are one of the nicest humans
Speaker 1: of all time, and I am so I am so appreciable. Well,
Speaker 1: if you remember, my daughter Laney is a tremendous fan
Speaker 1: and going all the way back to her second grade year,
Speaker 1: she said you were her favorite artists and you were
Speaker 1: kind enough to ask about her left time, and those
Speaker 1: are things that stick with people. Howard.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is so great that she you know, she's
Speaker 5: been a fan since that long. I mean, is he
Speaker 5: able to come to the show. I mean.
Speaker 1: I well, yeah, I think I think she may be
Speaker 1: coming now. Yes, so if she's on the guest list,
Speaker 1: she may be coming out now. Obviously I'm coming. I've
Speaker 1: seen you a variety of times, and really this goes
Speaker 1: back to the nineteen eighties, and I'm curious, multi decades
Speaker 1: of touring, and you tour, and you tour a lot,
Speaker 1: does it ever get old for you?
Speaker 5: No, No, it doesn't. I swear to you it doesn't,
Speaker 5: because I mean, it's like the best job in the world,
Speaker 5: playing so to people that they know and they're singing
Speaker 5: them back to you, and you know, creating this atmosphere
Speaker 5: in whatever venue I'm playing it. Honestly, it's such a
Speaker 5: joy to do it, and you know, it is what
Speaker 5: I do. I mean, I couldn't really do much else,
Speaker 5: so this is I'm just going to do what I
Speaker 5: can do, and I love it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Howard Jones coming up tomorrow night. Ever Wise, you
Speaker 1: know what's amazing is we have a mutual friend named
Speaker 1: Steve here in Indy and you've been out to the
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Motor Speedway before. This is literally one of your
Speaker 1: favorite stops. Is it not on your tour schedule here
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, we've we've been to the Indy five
Speaker 5: hundred track a couple of times now, and the rest
Speaker 5: of the band are very excited because they they're new
Speaker 5: to my band and they're going to go down with
Speaker 5: as Steve Shunk and and you know, go to the
Speaker 5: museum and get driven around the track. It's the most
Speaker 5: amazing thing. And I'm a big motors thought fan of
Speaker 5: formula you know, I followed Formula One and and you know,
Speaker 5: anything of the racing cars I'm big time into. So
Speaker 5: it's such a thrill. It's such an amazing track and
Speaker 5: driving around it is like something special. It's huge.
Speaker 1: Tom Howard Jones is with us. What did you say,
Speaker 1: were you kind of shocked at just how big the
Speaker 1: place was the first time that you stepped foot over
Speaker 1: their house?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Absolutely absolutely, you know, and you know, we were
Speaker 5: driven around in this in this beautiful old vintage car
Speaker 5: and that they have, you know, in their in their
Speaker 5: motor museum, and it was just it was just a thrill.
Speaker 5: And then we were driven around in a Ford Mustang
Speaker 5: by one of the Indy Car drivers and yeah, I
Speaker 5: mean it was it's it's there in the memory. You know,
Speaker 5: I'll never forget it. It's twice you've been now. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's great.
Speaker 1: It is a a great time for real tomorrow and
Speaker 1: that's going to be a great time too. Howard Jones
Speaker 1: is with us. How has the tour been so far? Howard?
Speaker 5: It's been absolutely amazing. You know. All the gigs have
Speaker 5: gone really well. We've had great turnouts and and it's
Speaker 5: it's interesting because you know, it's it's very much people
Speaker 5: coming coming through to get their tickets in their last
Speaker 5: few days because people are like checking them, you know,
Speaker 5: like we know that money's tight today, you know, and
Speaker 5: and people are sort of looking at the weather, they're
Speaker 5: looking have they got the money to go? And we're
Speaker 5: seeing you know, big walk cups to the shows, which
Speaker 5: is really quite interesting to see, you know, because it's
Speaker 5: a it sort of makes you realize, you know, you
Speaker 5: know it it's wonderful that people come, but they can
Speaker 5: afford to come to the shows at the moment. There
Speaker 5: was a guy that I met who was doing security
Speaker 5: in one of the kids we've just done in Austin,
Speaker 5: and he was he was saying, he's not he's not
Speaker 5: switching on his his air conditioning and his cart because
Speaker 5: he's trying to because he wants he needs to save money,
Speaker 5: you know, and that really that brought it home to me.
Speaker 5: But it's so great to see so many people coming out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got to be gratifying. You go, you know,
Speaker 1: all the way back, just multi decades, and you mentioned
Speaker 1: having people sing those songs, you know, word the word
Speaker 1: of all your lyrics back to you and know that
Speaker 1: you're still able to do this and enjoy it to
Speaker 1: the level in which you do has to be incredibly gratifying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it is, it is. It's I feel very pleaded,
Speaker 5: you know. I mean we you know, we look after
Speaker 5: me and my wife, We look after our health and
Speaker 5: you know, eat well, trying to get good rest so
Speaker 5: that we can do these tours and give like full
Speaker 5: energy and you know, really really get people excited. And
Speaker 5: you know, that's what I love doing. So I'm very
Speaker 5: grateful to be able to do it. Still.
Speaker 1: It's great Wang Chung Modern English and the English beat
Speaker 1: up part of this. It occurred to me, how long
Speaker 1: have you and Dave Wakeling been acquaintances? How far back
Speaker 1: do we go?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Actually we we He's he's taught. We've toured together
Speaker 5: quite a few times in the past, so we've got
Speaker 5: to know each other through that, and same with Modern English.
Speaker 5: We've toured with them, but I never never had, you know,
Speaker 5: the pleasure of having Wang Wan Chung on the on
Speaker 5: the on the bill with us. And although I know
Speaker 5: Jack hughes for it for a long time, we you know,
Speaker 5: we go back, you know, decades. So it's like, it's
Speaker 5: great having all these amazing people on the road, and
Speaker 5: there's a great atmosphere between the bands, and everyone has
Speaker 5: got a unique sound, which is very cool, you know.
Speaker 5: So people get a great a great night of music.
Speaker 5: And then Richard Blade gives his interludes where he you know,
Speaker 5: bigs up the eighties and and teaches us about how
Speaker 5: great that decade was. Well, yeah, it's as good.
Speaker 1: Richard Blade is one of the iconic DJs out there,
Speaker 1: and as Howard mentions, he gets up on stage and
Speaker 1: talks up a lot of stories. Now you've been an
Speaker 1: acquaintance of Richard for a number of years, have you
Speaker 1: heard all the stories or does he have any that
Speaker 1: you have yet to hear?
Speaker 5: And he has every story going because he knows all
Speaker 5: the bands and he knows all the artists, like personally,
Speaker 5: we go out to dinner, and also he's traveling on
Speaker 5: the bus with us and we get to hear more
Speaker 5: stories from Richard. But Richard, you know often say I
Speaker 5: might not be up here doing this if it wasn't
Speaker 5: for Richard, because he played my record on the West Coast,
Speaker 5: you know, K Rock right in the beginning and really
Speaker 5: supported so many of us artists. So you know, he's
Speaker 5: a legend, you.
Speaker 1: Know, and people forget back in the eighties, it was
Speaker 1: it was really difficult at the early stages to get
Speaker 1: your music and that style of music played. But once
Speaker 1: once you did, you saw the impact of the all
Speaker 1: audience once you did. But yeah, Richard Blade, there are
Speaker 1: a couple of stations, certainly the one on Long Island,
Speaker 1: New York was was another that was impactful too. But
Speaker 1: I mean it really took airplay on the radio to
Speaker 1: get new wave music as impactful as it became.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. And and so you know, as you
Speaker 5: mentioned w i R, you know, on the on the
Speaker 5: East Coast and then K Rock of the West. You know,
Speaker 5: they really championed our music and without that it would
Speaker 5: never have been heard, you know, So you know, very
Speaker 5: grateful to Richard and also and I r on the
Speaker 5: you know, on the Long Island side, So yeah, you
Speaker 5: know it's you know, we we stand on the on
Speaker 5: the shoulders of great people like like Riches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't I can't wait until tomorrow. And Howard
Speaker 1: Jones joins us, uh kind of enough to join us
Speaker 1: here on the ride with j M V on the
Speaker 1: Anymore Automotive Group Hotline. Before I let you go, I
Speaker 1: have to ask you how invested you were with the
Speaker 1: World Cup and the play of England.
Speaker 5: Oh oh yeah, I watched so many games and we
Speaker 5: you know, we we would we would, we were it
Speaker 5: was touch and go whether we were going to get
Speaker 5: through at any time. But then you know, in that
Speaker 5: you know, semi final, like why did our manager suddenly
Speaker 5: go all defensive against Argentina? I mean what was what
Speaker 5: was he thinking? I mean, I mean we you know,
Speaker 5: it just all collapsed after that. You know, we had
Speaker 5: a back five that hadn't played together in that configuration,
Speaker 5: and this is Argentina. They are so determined, you know,
Speaker 5: they are going to they win at any cost, and
Speaker 5: we really it was just a strategic mistake that Tuk
Speaker 5: or really you know, I mean everyone was going was
Speaker 5: groaning what you think, and so that's the other day
Speaker 5: I say, but you know, I think then, you know, Argentine,
Speaker 5: Argentina deserves to win because they they they just fought
Speaker 5: like tooth and nail to get to that final. And
Speaker 5: but but I tell you what, my favorite match was
Speaker 5: the third and fourth place between England and France. To me,
Speaker 5: that was the best match of the whole tournament. Just
Speaker 5: really enjoyed that.
Speaker 1: All the scoring, because all the scoring. People that love
Speaker 1: offense and scoring, you gotta love that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And and I tell you what I'm you know,
Speaker 5: being an Englishman, we were looking at how well America
Speaker 5: ran that that that tournament. I mean, all the stadiums
Speaker 5: looked amazing and they're all full, and I have to,
Speaker 5: you know, hats off to America for giving us an
Speaker 5: amazing World Cup. It was the best World Cup I've seen.
Speaker 5: So you know, that's I hope that, you know, people
Speaker 5: realized that that that you know, it was a really
Speaker 5: great achievement.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned that as a fan of England right here,
Speaker 1: was that result in third place? Was that good enough
Speaker 1: or was there still a high level of disappointment for
Speaker 1: that result in England?
Speaker 5: Yeah? No, there was, there was, there was There was
Speaker 5: great disappointment as to the manner that we went out.
Speaker 5: You know, we are going defensive, you know, so early
Speaker 5: on in the second half was just a really strategic mistake.
Speaker 5: And even if you didn't know very much about football,
Speaker 5: people were saying, why is he doing that? And you
Speaker 5: know we should have kept being very you know, one goal,
Speaker 5: two goals isn't enough against Argentina. You've got to keep
Speaker 5: hammering it. And so I think the the there's a
Speaker 5: great disappointment in the UK that we we should have
Speaker 5: been in that final. We would have lost, I think
Speaker 5: to Spain. I think Spain deservedly one and they're an
Speaker 5: amazing team, but we still you know, it would have
Speaker 5: been nice in the manner that we got through that.
Speaker 5: That's only finally we should have fought the whole way
Speaker 5: and been offensive the whole time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The pride of Southampton, England right here is uh. I
Speaker 1: don't know if we've ever gone this in depth in
Speaker 1: sports and our conversations in the past, but I dig it.
Speaker 1: I like it a lot.
Speaker 5: No great nowadays that I do. I am a big
Speaker 5: sports and actually it's football and Formula one is my
Speaker 5: my passions.
Speaker 1: You know, we you know, you remember back in the
Speaker 1: day they used to have an F one race over
Speaker 1: at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. So and yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 1: is missed. I think that's missed because you always want
Speaker 1: that place to to be the place for for races,
Speaker 1: and it is certainly. Have you ever been to the
Speaker 1: NY five hundred itself?
Speaker 5: I haven't been to the actual race, no, I mean
Speaker 5: I've only got the flavor of it, you know, going
Speaker 5: to the museum and going to it. But yeah, I'd
Speaker 5: love to come sometime.
Speaker 1: We got to make that happen for you at some point,
Speaker 1: don't we. So right, Hey, get get some rest and
Speaker 1: get sent for tomorrow night, and I want to come.
Speaker 1: I want to come and see you. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't get off until six o'clock, but I'm going
Speaker 1: to try to get back there and see you. Coming
Speaker 1: here tomorrow night too, and bring that girl. That girl's
Speaker 1: all getting all grown up now too, so but she's
Speaker 1: still a big fan of Howard Jones.
Speaker 5: Oh fantastic. Well give him on be swishes with you.
Speaker 1: You got it, Hey, Howard, We're going to send to
Speaker 1: everybody over there. We'll see tomorrow night. Thank you for
Speaker 1: the time as always.
Speaker 5: Okay, thanks J and D. Thank you man.
Speaker 1: Howard Jones on the Andy Moore Automotive Group potline. As
Speaker 1: I mentioned, one of the nicest human beings that you
Speaker 1: will ever meet. True, And it is so cool for
Speaker 1: me because I was such a tremendous fan and still
Speaker 1: am obviously, but growing up. You know, when you're a
Speaker 1: teenager and you know you're a fan of basketball or
Speaker 1: sports or whatever, and you know you meet those that
Speaker 1: you're a tremendous fan of in your youth, it's even
Speaker 1: more impactful. That's impactful. He's awesome ever wise, amphitheater tomorrow night,
Speaker 1: along with Wang Chung, the English Beat, Dave Wakeling too,
Speaker 1: by the way, he'll be there the Beat now as
Speaker 1: it goes. But the English Beat just a great catalog
Speaker 1: modern English. That is Howard Jones on the Andymore Automotive
Speaker 1: Group potline. He's from CBS four and Fox fifty nine.
Speaker 1: He is Mike Chappell. Hello, Mike, how are you a
Speaker 1: couple of things here? Did you get set up for
Speaker 1: the Seeger tribute?
Speaker 4: Yes, we're all good to go.
Speaker 1: When does that happen? Is that next week?
Speaker 4: A week from Friday.
Speaker 1: Correct, you are good to go for that. I want
Speaker 1: to make sure you are good. I'm glad to see
Speaker 1: that you guys can go to that. And are you
Speaker 1: going over to Canon this weekend?
Speaker 4: I leave tomorrow morning.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow morning.
Speaker 4: It's a great time. And if I get real energetic,
Speaker 4: I'll go to the gold Jacket dinner tomorrow night where
Speaker 4: all the you know, Hall of famers in town they're
Speaker 4: there and they present the gold jacket to the guy,
Speaker 4: which is really cool, but the very worst. I'll go
Speaker 4: to the enshrinmed ceremonies at on noon and then not
Speaker 4: to drop names, but then the Ursas have a post
Speaker 4: ceremony party that night at the country club. And it's
Speaker 4: cool to go to. And what's cool is you see
Speaker 4: all the all the cults. Bob Sandrews is normally there,
Speaker 4: the Justin Snows and edge Ll play b there and pain.
Speaker 4: It's really cool just to see the player Antoine Bethay.
Speaker 4: It's cool to see the players come back and help
Speaker 4: enjoy the moment that when one of their fellow teammates
Speaker 4: gets gets honored.
Speaker 1: Hey, does Edrin James have any sort of similar relationship
Speaker 1: with the girls as he had with the late, Jim irsay.
Speaker 4: Good question. I don't know. I think so. Uh, you know,
Speaker 4: because as much as Edrin and Jim were, you know,
Speaker 4: they were as close as you can get with a
Speaker 4: player and an owner, I would think, so, yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: sure you'll stay, you know, available if they need him.
Speaker 4: When I was talking to Vinnie over the summer, he
Speaker 4: wants to stay involved with the Colts. He said, they
Speaker 4: need me to do something, show up, give me a
Speaker 4: call and I'll be there. He really really feels close
Speaker 4: to the Ursays and to the Colts, and he still
Speaker 4: lives He still lives here, and so, uh, it's kind
Speaker 4: of cool when you see an owner, you know, Carli
Speaker 4: Ers Gordon is going to be the one to present
Speaker 4: Vinnie on Saturday, which is pretty cool. Says Really, he
Speaker 4: was much much closer to Jim yeah than Carly during
Speaker 4: his time here, but it was really a testament to
Speaker 4: his connection to the team and of the family.
Speaker 1: Mike Chappel of CBSFO and Fox fifty nine, He's on
Speaker 1: his way to Canon for the induction ceremonies for among others, Adam,
Speaker 1: Van and Terry coming up this weekend. He's on the
Speaker 1: Andy Moore Automotive group hootline, So what do you make
Speaker 1: And you and I have had dialogue regarding you know,
Speaker 1: the future, and you know, I'm always kind of in
Speaker 1: the category of I don't want to put any money
Speaker 1: in the future because you just don't know about the
Speaker 1: future past this year. However, I will say this, I
Speaker 1: think that this almost gives you to me contractually with
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor clearly your best player on the team. I
Speaker 1: think that's the best case scenario for everybody to be
Speaker 1: happy about.
Speaker 4: Would you agree, Yeah, unless you're one of the guys
Speaker 4: who also is expiring contract, like a you know, Quentin
Speaker 4: and Buck and Grover and not yeah, Josh Ansby free agent. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think what it does. Steven Holder mentioned any spot
Speaker 4: on it makes sense to not give extensions for all
Speaker 4: we've talked about in case things don't go right and
Speaker 4: you're reloading and then you're not giving the new group.
Speaker 4: You know, this this baggage, if that's the word you
Speaker 4: want to use. But by doing this, this tells your
Speaker 4: team that, hey, we're invested in in this year and
Speaker 4: we're going to reward a player who who has has
Speaker 4: earned it. So I think it's a win win. Now
Speaker 4: we'll see if there's more extensions, you know, I doubt it.
Speaker 4: I thought JT was the one. It's really kind of squirrely.
Speaker 4: The safest extension in my view was Quentin, just because
Speaker 4: he's there and if nothing else's performance has gotten better,
Speaker 4: But the number would have been crazy. It's going to
Speaker 4: be twenty five million bottom per year and probably more
Speaker 4: than that. JT is the one who They're gonna climb
Speaker 4: on this guy's back and ride him as long as
Speaker 4: they can. He's had one back to back three hundred
Speaker 4: carry seasons. Only Edguran's had three consecutive three hundred yard
Speaker 4: carry seasons, and so I'm glad they took care. I
Speaker 4: thought maybe they would try to just do this year somehow,
Speaker 4: but they showed a lot more investment. What I'm curious
Speaker 4: to see is what's the obligation in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 4: You know, might just be this year and next year
Speaker 4: and then and then they can make twenty twenty eight
Speaker 4: go away if they want. But he's gonna be here
Speaker 4: for eight years, and it'll be the longest tenure by
Speaker 4: a running back. You know, Thank Edge was seven years,
Speaker 4: Dom Rhodes was seven years with that little break in between.
Speaker 4: So but but no, he's your best player by far.
Speaker 4: He was. He was headed for like another eighteen hundred
Speaker 4: yard season last year or seventeen hundred yard until Daniel
Speaker 4: Jones went down and then the whole offense went in
Speaker 4: the dumper. So that this is when you talk about
Speaker 4: guys earning it. And I'm not saying Quentin hasn't earned
Speaker 4: it or or a Grover, but Jonathan Taylor is your guy.
Speaker 4: He's gonna You're gonna go as far as he takes you,
Speaker 4: providing Daniel Jones is healthy and so far that that
Speaker 4: looks like he's he's really on the way to being back.
Speaker 4: So kudos to Jonathan Taylor.
Speaker 1: There wasn't much of a poker face either. You could
Speaker 1: kind of tell that he seemed to be satisfied situationally
Speaker 1: with what was going long on because especially to compared
Speaker 1: to the last time out right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, at least we didn't have Carly in the
Speaker 4: in the end zone with with the luxury bus. He Jonathan,
Speaker 4: let's go talk. So uh yeah, when when when JT
Speaker 4: told us what I guess at the start of the
Speaker 4: camp that while two two of the top players Robinson
Speaker 4: and Gibbs were were in camp but not practicing. He said,
Speaker 4: I've got faith that things are headed in the right direction.
Speaker 4: And I was sold yesterday by someone with the cults
Speaker 4: that you know, we're going to get there, and it
Speaker 4: made me think that it maybe sooner rather than later.
Speaker 4: And it was so that again it helps to have
Speaker 4: two sides that want to get it done and aren't
Speaker 4: that far apart on what it takes to get it done.
Speaker 4: So again, the only the option to have been to
Speaker 4: give him something this year, maybe franchising next year, and
Speaker 4: that would not have been an ideal situation for Taylor.
Speaker 1: Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine on
Speaker 1: the Andymoree Automatic Group podline, So where are you as
Speaker 1: far as the extensions for guys? You and I have
Speaker 1: again we've had this back and forth, but where are
Speaker 1: you considering the circumstances of I'm not going to describe
Speaker 1: this as a lame duck season, but it can quickly
Speaker 1: become that if things don't go right, where are you
Speaker 1: in terms of money and extensions handed out to guys
Speaker 1: where you may have everybody all new coming up this
Speaker 1: time next year.
Speaker 4: And that's the dilemma, is what do you do and
Speaker 4: and what do you leave again? The thing is you can't.
Speaker 4: You can't really as an owner operate by well, if
Speaker 4: this doesn't go right now, I've got a whole new
Speaker 4: group coming in, so I've got to watch my money.
Speaker 4: That's why I say it was important to get JT
Speaker 4: extended because it shows the locker room that she's invested
Speaker 4: in this year. And by the way, they have re
Speaker 4: signed their own if you want to call Daniel Jones
Speaker 4: their own Jones, Pierce and JT. And it's like almost
Speaker 4: a quarter of a billion dollars in contracts, so more
Speaker 4: we talked to. I just don't know that I would
Speaker 4: want to invest what's going to be a monster, monster
Speaker 4: contract in Quentin Nelson. He won't be the highest paid alignment,
Speaker 4: he'll be the highest paid guard by quite a bit.
Speaker 4: And Grover know Buck, how do your extend Buck? When
Speaker 4: he's got the neck injury, then he's coming back and
Speaker 4: he might be fine. And there is no better example
Speaker 4: of a horseshoe guy than the Force Bucker. I mean,
Speaker 4: he's at the top of the list, but there's a
Speaker 4: situation there that would give you pause. So I guess
Speaker 4: I wouldn't do another one. If I would it would
Speaker 4: be Quentin because he is beyond a core player. He's
Speaker 4: one of those pillar guys. But then still, if things
Speaker 4: don't go right, how much money do you want to
Speaker 4: have invested next year when the new GM or whatever
Speaker 4: comes in and says, yeah, he's a good player, but
Speaker 4: you know, I want my money funneled elsewhere. So and
Speaker 4: as soon as I say I think they're done, they'll
Speaker 4: resign somebody. I'll tell you if they're listening and they
Speaker 4: want to invest money, give keenan Allen call and get
Speaker 4: his butt in Westfield.
Speaker 1: Is the clock is ticking, I think with the guys
Speaker 1: that are out there, especially this guy that certainly has
Speaker 1: a connection to the past.
Speaker 4: That's the thing. It's in a season of urgency, which
Speaker 4: this season is give your quarterback coming off an Achilles
Speaker 4: as much weaponry as you can, and right now the
Speaker 4: receiver room is simply not deep enough. Keep in mind,
Speaker 4: we've not seen out. We've seen out like peers have practiced,
Speaker 4: and he and Reggie look pretty good throwing the football.
Speaker 4: But even when Piers comes back, that number three spots
Speaker 4: wide open, and all the guys that are contending for
Speaker 4: that have been have had their moments, but that's never
Speaker 4: been their role. Being of three has never been their role.
Speaker 4: So that's my concern. And we were talking on our
Speaker 4: podcast today at Fox fifty nine that either Keenan Allen
Speaker 4: wants to let training camp go in another week before
Speaker 4: he signs with somebody, or he wants he's going to
Speaker 4: resign with the Chargers or he's going to resign with
Speaker 4: the Colts, but he wants more money. Money's always a
Speaker 4: driving force. People can say he went to where he
Speaker 4: had a chance. Money makes you do a lot of things.
Speaker 4: So if he's asked ing for too much money, which
Speaker 4: in free agency right now, you don't get that big contract.
Speaker 4: And again that's a relative five million, eight million, I
Speaker 4: don't know, but I just see how Keenan Allen comes
Speaker 4: in here and it's a one year stopgap sort of
Speaker 4: fills Michael Pittman's role. So I and if he goes
Speaker 4: back to the Chargers or somewhere else, then what you
Speaker 4: got They worked out Chase Claypool recently. He hasn't played
Speaker 4: since twenty twenty three, So I'm just concerned that they
Speaker 4: look at that room and they say, well, you know,
Speaker 4: we've got Tyler Warren who by the way, is a
Speaker 4: tight end, uh so, and they're gonna work him hard
Speaker 4: this year. I hope they find a way to get
Speaker 4: a third receiver free agent, And once you get past
Speaker 4: Keenan Allen, there's not a lot out there.
Speaker 1: It's Mike Chappell who joins us right now. Obviously, Sauce
Speaker 1: Gardner was the big deal. I got it going forward
Speaker 1: as they did last year, and then everything came unraveled,
Speaker 1: uh with the injury, especially that to to Daniel Jones,
Speaker 1: and we know that they traded away a future couple
Speaker 1: of first rounders here. We haven't really talked about the
Speaker 1: impact that we might see of a d Mitchell. Make
Speaker 1: you wonder because we're talking about wide receiver right now
Speaker 1: and Keenan Allen right now, whereas it seems like people
Speaker 1: in the I and again it's early in training camp,
Speaker 1: and we've been down this path before when we talk
Speaker 1: about stuff, and we never talked about it again after
Speaker 1: this time. But that is something I'm assuming we're going
Speaker 1: to keep tracking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in hindsight, ad Mitchell's the guy you want here
Speaker 4: when Michael Pittman's gone. But it's hard for me to
Speaker 4: believe that. The Jets said well, we're not going to
Speaker 4: make this deal for sauce two first round draft picks.
Speaker 1: They did they rage trade him. Do you think they
Speaker 1: traded him kind of out out of a little bit
Speaker 1: of anger and being done be.
Speaker 4: Lost our patience with it? Yeah? I think so, because
Speaker 4: I can't believe that he was a deal breaker in
Speaker 4: the trade. I really don't. Uh, you get two first
Speaker 4: round draft picks, you take that and walk away? So yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, right now, ad Mitchell, warts and all would
Speaker 4: look pretty good. He just he just had those I
Speaker 4: want to sound like, just he had four or five
Speaker 4: plays that you just can't have when you're in that position.
Speaker 4: And I think the coaching staff, minus Reggie Wayne just said,
Speaker 4: if you don't trust your guy, how do you claim?
Speaker 4: And I think they lost trust in what Mitchell would do,
Speaker 4: and then they lost patience on giving him another year
Speaker 4: and you know, half of last year and another year
Speaker 4: this year. I know, Reggie, you know if they voted,
Speaker 4: he wasn't a vote to send him away. But you know,
Speaker 4: it's a position position coach, you defer with what they say.
Speaker 4: But I think I think Mitchell would look pretty good
Speaker 4: here right now. But that that's what that's hindsight.
Speaker 1: Well, are you anticipating regret a time?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean yeah, because because he would he would
Speaker 4: be in the running with the top three guys, and
Speaker 4: maybe there were just those rough spots for him that
Speaker 4: rookies have to work through. But again they were the
Speaker 4: spot they just weren't going to have patience with him,
Speaker 4: and it was one you know, it's like, well, it's like,
Speaker 4: we'll give you one more chance, and then you're on
Speaker 4: double secret probation and you mess up again. So yeah,
Speaker 4: is there a regret? I probably, But again you've got
Speaker 4: to move on there, and I'm gonna send another draft
Speaker 4: pick to the Jets to get him back. But when
Speaker 4: you make a move like that, maybe it would have
Speaker 4: been hard to argue to keep him, considering how he
Speaker 4: had been moved out of the rotation and he wasn't
Speaker 4: gonna get much of an opportunity last year barring an injury.
Speaker 4: But yeah, in hindsight, it'll be nice to have ad
Speaker 4: Minchell back here.
Speaker 1: Mike Chappell of CBS four and Fox fifty nine, I'm curious,
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, do you think that ultimately is going to
Speaker 1: be a target or are we just talking about stuff
Speaker 1: that may never come to fruition here.
Speaker 4: I just don't know why it's not going to happen
Speaker 4: unless he doesn't want to come here, or unless he's
Speaker 4: asking for just too much. And it's not my money,
Speaker 4: it's Carly's money. And I would hope that a million
Speaker 4: or two dollars wouldn't keep him here, but again, he
Speaker 4: may be asking for a lot more than that. I
Speaker 4: don't know. I just know where. You know she said that,
Speaker 4: you know she she'll make any move, you know that
Speaker 4: the Chris wants to make. I just hope we're not
Speaker 4: sitting here in October, November, and and and Chris is thinking, well,
Speaker 4: I wish I'd done more to help our receivers. Because again,
Speaker 4: if you want to argue that Pierce and Down's and
Speaker 4: Tyler Warren give you three top guys, okay, but guys
Speaker 4: get hurt, Guys miss time. And then you have guys
Speaker 4: who have never who have seldom stepped up in in
Speaker 4: in strong roles, coming through and filling and lifting their
Speaker 4: game to that level. And again I'm not saying Keenan
Speaker 4: Allen will be a long term UH player at all,
Speaker 4: but right now, it's this year, and it's an urgent year.
Speaker 4: I mean, we we've talked to death. So I just
Speaker 4: if there's a legitimate reason, fine, if it's that you
Speaker 4: think you're okay at the position, then I just I
Speaker 4: have to disagree with it.
Speaker 1: Hi, Mike, I want to ask you this, Is it
Speaker 1: weird to you that they have the night practice eight
Speaker 1: until ten later on tonight when basically everybody is finally
Speaker 1: back to school. Is that weird? Is that? That seems
Speaker 1: like some half ass bad scheduling to me?
Speaker 4: But they'll have a big crowd. They will. Uh, I'm
Speaker 4: no longer on their list to to talk about the
Speaker 4: schedules and all that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, what you advise them, maybe you're going to do.
Speaker 4: It to school rain, so they play in the practice
Speaker 4: inside because it's easier for me. But that they'll have
Speaker 4: a great crowd. And then I'm sure they've got a
Speaker 4: big post practice fireworks display and all that stuff. They'll
Speaker 4: they'll go big guns on that. All I care about
Speaker 4: is we get Jonathan Taylor after practice so I can
Speaker 4: get a story done and get home and you can
Speaker 4: get up early in the morning to drive the canton.
Speaker 4: So and again, it's all about us. It's all about
Speaker 4: what makes my job easier and all that stuff. But
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know why they schedule things
Speaker 4: on their schedule them, but they'll have a big crowd tonight.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to call upon your vast memory
Speaker 1: right here. We had an ill advised press conference by
Speaker 1: the new athletic director of Purdue, Tommy McClellan, a little
Speaker 1: bit earlier today, which begs the question, you've been around
Speaker 1: here absolutely forever. Who had the worst introductory press conference
Speaker 1: day other than this guy or worse than the new
Speaker 1: boy the maker ad had earlier today? You mean here
Speaker 1: in Indie, not anywhere in generally you saw, Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: go on, let's go in and around. Yeah, you can
Speaker 1: be here in Indie or it can be outside of
Speaker 1: the market. You know, any memory you have around here
Speaker 1: of a bad first step taken Tommy McClellan did today.
Speaker 4: Nick Sirianni had a really really bad opening press conference
Speaker 4: in Philly, Yeah he did. And then and then when
Speaker 4: somebody when you're a meme, Lee and Colem in Jacksonville
Speaker 4: when he did the Duvall thing.
Speaker 1: And they're all they're all on the right track, right, Sirianni,
Speaker 1: is you know won a Super Bowl and Cohen is
Speaker 1: on the right, so maybe this is a good sign
Speaker 1: for both the Maker fans.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I wouldn't want to start my tenure somewhere by
Speaker 4: making an ass of myself. And I didn't hear the
Speaker 4: press coverage, so I don't know exactly what he did.
Speaker 1: But did you not hear this? Did you hear this
Speaker 1: part of it?
Speaker 6: He?
Speaker 1: Can you play this, Caleb? I want to play Caleb
Speaker 1: to play it for you. This is the point that
Speaker 1: we're talking about in Tommy McClellan's press conference earlier today,
Speaker 1: when unfortunately he said this.
Speaker 6: Every recruit, every current student athlete will hear this message repeatedly.
Speaker 6: We are here to win championships. If you don't want
Speaker 6: to win championships, go down, Dana.
Speaker 4: Who what was he?
Speaker 1: That's what was the action from chav on the YouTube?
Speaker 4: Where was he like several months ago and Miami lived
Speaker 4: at the trophy?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a bad start right there. Yea. And
Speaker 1: people bring up, well, look what Signetti said. Listen, they
Speaker 1: were a doormat. You could have said basically anything and
Speaker 1: been okay.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 1: That was not okay, And that's going to take a
Speaker 1: long time for people to forget.
Speaker 4: And again their football program has fallen on such hard times.
Speaker 4: Now again with with the new you know, portal and
Speaker 4: kneel and all that you can, you can turn things
Speaker 4: around very quickly, as I you was done. But yeah,
Speaker 4: that's gonna that's gonna be. That's gonna follow him around
Speaker 4: until there's a championship uh in West Lafayette.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What's what's interesting is is the produe football coach Barry
Speaker 1: Odom said all the right things the week before last,
Speaker 1: and Matt Painter always says all the right things, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just weird. How I guess you don't test drive
Speaker 1: that on anybody with that particular line. It'd be one
Speaker 1: thing I think Mike, if he said it kind of
Speaker 1: off the script in jest, then you go, okay, I
Speaker 1: get that. But that was like scripted serious material right there,
Speaker 1: or at least that's the way that sounded.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I keep hammering the WNBA for having really crappy
Speaker 4: PR people, and maybe he tapped into their PR people
Speaker 4: to get his opening brushed up. But yeah, I'd like
Speaker 4: to have a due over on that if I'm him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the w NBA and the Fever, it's a good thing.
Speaker 1: They have a good team because most of the time
Speaker 1: those folks can't not get out of their own way.
Speaker 4: How can we screw this up? I got an idea. Okay,
Speaker 4: let's go with that.
Speaker 1: Here's a hell of a plan. So hey, you're off
Speaker 1: to Kenton coming up tomorrow, correct.
Speaker 4: Driving to Westfield tonight and in Canton to borrow about
Speaker 4: four and a half hours and looking forward to it.
Speaker 4: It's always great to get over there because it's it's
Speaker 4: just history, and yeah, it'll be a great couple of
Speaker 4: days in Canton.
Speaker 1: No doubt. All right. Well, safe travels to Westfield tonight,
Speaker 1: and hey, I'm glad you got those tickets to see
Speaker 1: The Secret Trouble.
Speaker 4: I've been there before. It's getting in and getting out
Speaker 4: can be paying the ass, but if it's a really
Speaker 4: good concert, you deal with it.
Speaker 1: Well, Steve contacted me and I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: this is our guy right here. Let's let's set him up,
Speaker 1: so taking care of me. He's a great guy. Mike,
Speaker 1: enjoy tonight and the safe travels to Canton to thank you.
Speaker 4: You guys be well.
Speaker 1: Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fox fifty nine, you're
Speaker 1: right that reaction when you heard that dude you got
Speaker 1: to put that up. That reaction that he had on
Speaker 1: the YouTube feed was last.
Speaker 5: Oh.
Speaker 1: One of these days, at least for new fans. He
Speaker 1: brought up a couple examples and listen, I'm known Nick
Speaker 1: Siriani fan right here, but Nick Siriani did big things.
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen looks as if he can do big things
Speaker 1: to referenced by Mike missteps in press conferences that worked
Speaker 1: out okay, And then if you want to utilize Kurt Signetti,
Speaker 1: which is just incredibly different. When he first did his
Speaker 1: press conference and then came on with me, I remember
Speaker 1: this very well. He came on with me. I was
Speaker 1: at the West Side Pub on a December afternoon and
Speaker 1: it was it was so oh by the way, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy and he was the bravado was there. And
Speaker 1: then he ended up backing it up. So this guy
Speaker 1: to let everybody forget and to shut up the folks
Speaker 1: like me talking about this today, he's just going to
Speaker 1: have to do the job, which is essentially all he
Speaker 1: really needed to reference in the first place.