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Speaker 1: We're back another edition Colts Corn with myself Kevin Bowen,

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Speaker 1: as we are speaking to you here after yet another

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Speaker 1: chapter in I guess probably is accurate to call it

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Speaker 1: a curse place right now for the Colts, that would

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Speaker 1: be Jacksonville. The Colts lose thirty six nineteen, and the

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Speaker 1: questions now have become a lot more abundant, and I

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Speaker 1: would argue a lot lot more difficult to answer here,

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Speaker 1: not only in the short term, but also the long term.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into all that on today's podcast. Eddie Garrison,

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Speaker 1: how you doing.

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Speaker 2: I would just like to know, Kevin, what sacrifices, what

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Speaker 2: type of voodoo, magic, wizardry, you name it, this city

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Speaker 2: needs to do to get rid of this injury curse

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Speaker 2: that has been placed on it for the last twenty years.

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Speaker 1: I thought when Fernando Mendoza went down on the first

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Speaker 1: play of the game, I was like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: we've already seen another iteration of this. But he bounced

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Speaker 1: back up and the rest was history there and then

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Speaker 1: Sunday happened, and yeah, unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just you feel awful.

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Speaker 1: First off, for Daniel Jones, just that whole scene and

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Speaker 1: watching his emotion play out and you feel terrible for him,

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Speaker 1: even if you put to the side the financial element

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Speaker 1: to what that injury will mean for him. But also

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Speaker 1: in the here and now, I know that game was

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Speaker 1: not off to a great start by any means, and

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Speaker 1: maybe you would have lost that game. But now you're

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Speaker 1: really really behind the eight ball in terms of what

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Speaker 1: it's going to look like for the rest of this season.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we were talking about maybe being the

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Speaker 1: one seed and you know, a path through Lucas Soil Stadium,

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Speaker 1: and now you wake up today and you're actually outside

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Speaker 1: of the playoff picture with how the Houston Texans one

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Speaker 1: last night in Kansas City. So a time to get

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Speaker 1: to on the pod Eddie, let's just start kind of

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Speaker 1: overall thoughts, you know.

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Speaker 3: And it's just kind of wild to.

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Speaker 1: Think that how much Jacksonville and Houston have owned the

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Speaker 1: Colts in the Psiching era. You know, I don't view

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Speaker 1: Houston and Jacksonville as like these vaunted NFL juggernaut by

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Speaker 1: any means. I've often said, you're in the division of

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Speaker 1: all divisions that you want to be in, and yet

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Speaker 1: I think the mark is now I think changed seconds

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Speaker 1: last eight of his ten games he's coached against those

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Speaker 1: two and you obviously will see them end the season.

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Speaker 1: But like, damn, I mean, that's that's awful. And I

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Speaker 1: mean Dimicko Ryans is hired at the same the same

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Speaker 1: time you were. You know, Doug Peterson's course fired, you know,

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Speaker 1: offense coordinator changes in Houston, Trevor Lawrence questions of course

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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, and your inability to beat them, it continues

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Speaker 1: to rise up. It's not like you've been these touchdown,

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Speaker 1: ten point underdogs in any of these games. You know,

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Speaker 1: I thought, specifically to Sunday, I was actually surprised Stichen

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Speaker 1: deferred to start the game. I know this was a

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Speaker 1: big topic that we got last week. Why does he

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Speaker 1: always take the ball first? I think when you get

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Speaker 1: in these weather games, you literally are reliant on someone

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Speaker 1: on your staff predicting the weather for the next three hours, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and trying to see, hey, when is going to be

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Speaker 2: The football or maybe they talked to Chris Ryder, you

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Speaker 2: know whomever.

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Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, exactly, dial up you know, Lindsay Monroe here

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Speaker 1: in town and figure out what the weather's going to

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Speaker 1: look like. And honestly, the best weather was the first quarter.

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Speaker 1: That's when you should have taken the ball. Granted being

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Speaker 1: jumps through a pick on the first off to play

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Speaker 1: I really And we'll get into what I liked and

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Speaker 3: But again, just generally.

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Speaker 1: For the unteenth year in a row, Jacksonville punching you

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Speaker 1: in the mouth first down there, especially the week after Houston. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: had come into your own building and do that.

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Speaker 3: You like, I'm a big like, you know, how do

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Speaker 3: you respond?

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Speaker 1: Like if you're an EU basketball fan, you know you

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Speaker 1: lose at Minnesota last week, you would assume your response

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Speaker 3: Now it's four or five losses.

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Speaker 1: Now it's we're back into this December conversation of Chris Boward,

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Speaker 1: you know, twelve months ago saying we don't have enough

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Speaker 1: the season's on the line, Well, Houston Jacksonville is about

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Speaker 3: Yesterday was not that at all, So plenty to get to.

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Speaker 3: I know, Twitter questions, we'll.

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Speaker 1: Cover a lot, So unless you've got anything else to add, Eddie, briefly,

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Speaker 1: I will mention kind of playoff wise, if you are

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Speaker 1: clinging to hope because what is there to tank for.

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Speaker 2: The NFL or CFP? Which one are we talking here?

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Speaker 3: Can? I am I allowed to rant? We'll get to

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Speaker 1: If you are clinging to playoff hopes, which you know,

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Speaker 1: again weirdly like some Pacers fans want them to tank

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Speaker 1: right now, and Eddie, where would they be top five

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Speaker 1: it's just it's just kind of weird without the first

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Speaker 1: you really need the Eagles tonight. I think I think

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Speaker 1: the Chargers could be your best pathway in. They have

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Speaker 1: who still could be playing for the one seed in

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Speaker 1: would point to that right now, as you know, can

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Speaker 1: you get the same record as them? But you know what,

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Speaker 1: I watching the Cults yesterday, are they going to win

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Speaker 1: You know, that's a very real conversation. So I got

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Speaker 1: no more to add. But unless you got anything else,

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Speaker 1: let's just get into what I didn't like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't, but I know we've got a question

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Speaker 2: to hold off on mentioning here. And what we didn't like,

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Speaker 2: Let's start with the start of the game, before the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just hated the start and then the complimentary

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Speaker 3: I felt like it was back to being Trevor.

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Speaker 1: Lawrence is in a groove like none other, and he's

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Speaker 1: you said, Eddie had forced you know, the tackle for

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Speaker 1: Get him out of mounds. And and then you just

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Speaker 3: So I just didn't love the start. The punch thrown.

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Speaker 1: I think it's okay to even nitpick, you know, not

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Speaker 1: taking the ball to start given the weather. I think

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Speaker 1: because you know, once that rain stars falling, man, anything goes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't like where that game was haden either.

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Speaker 2: Now let's get into the injury itself.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 2: It was very awkward the whole the play that on

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Speaker 2: what did he do? Like there's nothing that looked abnormal,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and just you know, again watching his emotion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just I didn't think that was the most telling

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so now it brings up all the questions.

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Speaker 1: First off, Riley Leonard for the final four games. You know,

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Speaker 1: You know, is there another quarterback round? I say this

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Speaker 1: You know, I've long said this about Riley Leonard. I

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Speaker 1: I didn't think it was I mean, Jacksonville dropped multiple interceptions. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I thought he was fine. But he's not built to

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Speaker 1: You know, there are some time constraints in regards to

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Speaker 1: this injury. In early December of like, okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: what exactly can you do? Brett Ripton hasn't thrown a

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Speaker 1: two months, so I assume it is Leonard going forward here.

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Speaker 1: You know, Anthony Richardson. As I think I've said on

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Speaker 1: got the impression that he is returning anytime soon, right.

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Speaker 1: I think this is a very serious human injury, not

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Speaker 1: football injury, human injury of gaining full vision back. You know, again,

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Speaker 1: So I guess that kind of answers all the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five questions. And now, Eddie, do you give Daniel

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Speaker 1: But I also am like, well, I mean, he did

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Speaker 3: Who cares? That doesn't mean that the.

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Speaker 1: Now on those guys, several of them, a lot of

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Speaker 2: Will say this, And if you don't feel comfortable with

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Speaker 3: By the way, Philip rivers, happy forty fourth birthday to him.

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Speaker 3: You've given him a call for the final four weeks.

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Speaker 1: You imagine, Yeah, Edie, I mean there's a ton there

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Speaker 1: You're not only saying we think Daniel Jones should be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not going to ignore that, but you were putting

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Speaker 1: You know that is where I really really struggle on

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is an ugly, ugly list, so all

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Speaker 3: With the calf. Yeah, I'm not smart enough to realize that.

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Speaker 1: It's I've said this before, Eddie, but I'll repeat it again.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's it. That's it. And thirty one pass attempts.

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Speaker 1: You know, Taylor has the fumble shortly thereafter, but I

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Speaker 1: That's arguably Lawrence's best game of the season, and your

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Speaker 2: twenty quarterback kick hits. I'm in the process of doing

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00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 2: some other math, but let's see, that's two sacks on Stroud,

436
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 2: four sacks on Mahomes, three sacks on Pinnis, so that's thirteen,

437
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 2: and then three sacks on Rogers, so sixteen sacks. For

438
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 2: a total net yardage loss of sixty nine yards.

439
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Speaker 3: Is that where I say, nice.

440
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Speaker 2: Nice, Yeah, that's in that in the last five games.

441
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 2: So I mean it's pretty clear where you know, part

442
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,120
Speaker 2: of the struggles are defensively in that regard.

443
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Speaker 1: One thing, the last thing I didn't like, Eddie, and

444
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Speaker 1: I hope I'm not I repeating myself. I feel like

445
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Speaker 1: my my brain's kind of fried here. But I did

446
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Speaker 1: think there was a sweek sequence late there in the

447
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 1: first half where the game really changed, and that was

448
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Speaker 1: following the growth Shue at Force fumble. You know when

449
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 1: you got to that third and one and fourth and one, ye,

450
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 1: you're down twenty one to ten again. As soon as

451
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Speaker 1: that rain started to come down, I said it.

452
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Speaker 3: I guess I said it to myself and Maddie. Anything

453
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 3: can happen, yeah, in the in that game.

454
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Speaker 1: And if you're able to score there in the first half,

455
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Speaker 1: let's say it's a field goal twenty one to thirteen,

456
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Speaker 1: twenty one thirteen, and you get the balls for the

457
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Speaker 1: third quarter, you can then put some real game pressure

458
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Speaker 1: on Jacksonville and when you get to third and one,

459
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 1: to me, that game plan has got to be playing

460
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Speaker 1: to Riley Leonard's strengths. Yeah, and Riley leonards strengths, as

461
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Speaker 1: I certainly know, is as a run first quarterback. It

462
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Speaker 1: is with his like, how did he get the first

463
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 1: third down of the game yesterday? Rolls to his leftist,

464
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Speaker 1: gaps pressure and loft that little float to ball to

465
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Speaker 1: Alec Pierce, Like that's his game? How'd he score his

466
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Speaker 1: only touchdown running it? That is his game. You've got

467
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Speaker 1: to play to that strength. He is not an NFL

468
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: pocket passer, not at all. That is not his strength.

469
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: And so for on third and one to get greedy

470
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Speaker 1: and think that you're going to find I think it

471
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Speaker 1: was Moiley Cox. He was targeting for a throw in

472
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Speaker 1: the rain with your you know, rookie quarterback in his

473
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Speaker 1: first meaningful snaps to me, was way too greedy from

474
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: Shane psykeing And as soon as you screw up there,

475
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: everybody in the world knows Jonathan Taylor's getting an un

476
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Speaker 1: fourth and one, Yeah and boom he gets it there.

477
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Speaker 1: To me, it is either QB sneak, it's a run. Hell,

478
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Speaker 1: you could run QB power for all I care with

479
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: with Leonard, if you're worried about ball security in RPO situation,

480
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Speaker 1: do that. That to me, I thought was just an

481
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Speaker 1: awful sequence by Stichen And the next thing you know,

482
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Speaker 1: Jacksonvill's got the ball back. They of course punch it

483
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Speaker 1: in and the rest is history. You're down three scores

484
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Speaker 1: a half. I thought that sequence was such a big

485
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Speaker 1: one in the game itself in that you could have

486
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Speaker 1: created a little bit more just again, game pressure make

487
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Speaker 1: them have to be a little litle bit riskier in

488
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: some of their play calls in the second half. Yeah,

489
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: not be as safe and you really didn't play to

490
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Speaker 1: your quarterback strengths.

491
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like, you know, obviously teams go through

492
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 2: stretches keV where they're you.

493
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Speaker 3: Know, they're hot, they're colding right now.

494
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Speaker 2: I think Stiching is in the biggest you know, rut

495
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: in a while that we've seen as a play caller,

496
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Speaker 2: because it just seems like almost every decision he's made

497
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Speaker 2: the last you know, three weeks especially, has been the

498
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Speaker 2: wrong one.

499
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Speaker 1: Well, and you do see coaches do the third and

500
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Speaker 1: one shots like Ryan Day for example, he threw on

501
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,120
Speaker 1: third and one to Jeremiah Smith in the end zone.

502
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Speaker 1: I think there are definitely, depending on personnel moments where

503
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Speaker 1: you do try some of that stuff. But you know,

504
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Speaker 1: we saw Ashton Doolan remember kind of sneak out of

505
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Speaker 1: the backfield. If I'm not the second, I think that

506
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: was a third and one a couple of weeks back,

507
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Speaker 1: and you were able to hit a big play.

508
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Speaker 3: But in the rain, with your rookie weak pocket passing

509
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: quarterback throwing to your tight end that probably has the

510
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 3: most questionable hands in the team of all your pass catchers.

511
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Speaker 3: Probably a fair statement to make. I don't know, may

512
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Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor.

513
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Speaker 2: Maybe Josh Downs with the well last couple of weeks.

514
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but again, Leonard to Ali Cox in the ring,

515
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Speaker 1: I'm not holding my prison that one, you know. And

516
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Speaker 1: so I just think there are times diw that, hey,

517
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Speaker 1: we have drilled the Ashton to do and play all

518
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: week long. We're gonna do it. He's a trustworthy player, Okay, fine,

519
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: perfect weather, Daniel Jones, That to me wasn't one of

520
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: those moments. And you still had plenty of time in

521
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Speaker 1: the clock. It sound like you needed to risk a

522
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: throw there still. You know, Jane always does a great

523
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Speaker 1: job of keeping his timeouts. You still have those, and

524
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Speaker 1: yet you then set yourself up for fourth and one, where.

525
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Speaker 3: There's the most obvious play call in the history of

526
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Speaker 3: the game.

527
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Speaker 2: So again, I know that's a little bit hyperbolic to

528
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Speaker 2: say no in the history of the game.

529
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Speaker 3: I shouldn't have said that part, but yeah.

530
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Speaker 1: You know Taylor is going to get it here. So yeah,

531
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Speaker 1: I just think the Leonard playbook and screw trying to

532
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: keep him healthy. Right now, you don't have any other choice.

533
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be so so run centric

534
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: and he should give you an extra number in the

535
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Speaker 1: run game. Yeah he should, So I would play to that.

536
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Speaker 3: And you know, sprinkling a couple fifty to fifty balls

537
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Speaker 3: to Alec Pearson.

538
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Speaker 2: There you go, speaking to Alec Pierce. He has been

539
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Speaker 2: money and that price tag just keeps unrising. Yesterday against

540
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 2: Jacksonville five for eighty yards. He is what you liked

541
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Speaker 2: out of the game yesterday KB And in eleven games

542
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Speaker 2: this year he has top sixty eight receiving yards or

543
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Speaker 2: more in eight of them, and outside of that Kansas

544
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Speaker 2: City game, he has been over seventy five in four

545
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Speaker 2: of the last five games.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about people that helped out

547
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Speaker 1: Riley Leonard yesterday, I can't go with hardly anyone on

548
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Speaker 1: the Colts defense. I can't go with Jonathan Taylor for

549
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: the fumble. Definitely not the Cults run game three point

550
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Speaker 1: five a carry. I do think Pierson Pittman deserve mentioned, though, Yeah,

551
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Speaker 1: I'll say Pittman as well. I thought those two did

552
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: a nice job in the rain, pretty consistent catching the ball,

553
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: and you know, both I think helped him out.

554
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Speaker 3: Part of me thought that that Pierce was a touchdown.

555
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: I didn't love the OPI on Pittman. I mean you

556
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: could yeah, I mean when you get the single arm

557
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: extent right there in front of.

558
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: The ref, I was really soft. Yeah, I think I

559
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Speaker 3: agree on that.

560
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Speaker 2: It seems like as of lately, because even you go

561
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Speaker 2: back to the Dallas game against Detroit on Thursday night,

562
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: there was another questionable OPI. It seems like that might

563
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Speaker 2: be a mid season point of emphasis. Think you're seeing

564
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: a lot more OPI s lately.

565
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But all in all, I thought Pierson Pittman a

566
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Speaker 1: really nice job. Well, wait, clarity on the Pierce injury situation.

567
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: He spoke to the media afterwards. They ultimated clear he

568
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: was not a cushion protocol. I know, I an eagle

569
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: said that on the broadcast, So well, A wait, exactly

570
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: what his status is. Braydon Smith was, so Jalen Travis,

571
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: the rookie out of Iowa State, played at right tackle there,

572
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: we'll see, you know, Eddie would only be the second

573
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: time all year the old line hasn't been intact if

574
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,439
Speaker 1: Jalen Travis needs to start in Seattle coming up on Sunday.

575
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, I definitely want to Mintion Pierce and I

576
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: think Pittman as well. I think they are not a

577
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: lot that I liked really from the game, of course,

578
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Speaker 1: but I think those two deserve it.

579
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Speaker 2: So on the season, in eleven games, Pierce has thirty

580
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 2: eight catches for seven hundred and sixty nine yards. That's

581
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 2: twenty point two per catch. He needs to average fifty

582
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: eight yards just call it that the final four games

583
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: in order to eclipse a thousand yards with the first

584
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Speaker 2: time in his career.

585
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Speaker 1: I think you should do that, even with Leonard, you know,

586
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: just with this big play capability all of that there.

587
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: So I was really, I mean, obviously you don't want

588
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: anybody to be in concussion protocol, but given Pierce's recent history,

589
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: that was definitely one that was a bit worse. And

590
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: I know I've said it to you before. How many

591
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: times he goes up and gets deep balls and he

592
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: falls to the ground. It's amazing he doesn't get hurt

593
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: more just like limb hurt like a back or you know,

594
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: shoulder arm, you know any of that.

595
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you ready for truer questions? Kab mentioned earlier

596
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: in the pod that we rant about the college football

597
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: players and well, we got to we gotta see what

598
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Speaker 2: we have.

599
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 3: Time will have to be after twitter questions.

600
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Speaker 2: But mentioned earlier about the culture of the team, and

601
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: that is where we start with. Isaac says, the Colts

602
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 2: have a mediocre culture. How do the Colts change that?

603
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: Why is Jacksonville such an issue? Isaac, I would almost

604
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: go as far as to say, the last month of

605
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: the season is always an issue. And it kind of

606
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: goes back to what Chris Ballard said. I can't remember

607
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: at what point last year, Kevin, if it was after

608
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Speaker 2: the season, if it was at the Combine or before

609
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Speaker 2: leading up to the draft.

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Speaker 3: That just the team needs to be tougher down the

611
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: stretch to win games. And you look at.

612
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Speaker 2: You know, this core group of players, it just seems

613
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Speaker 2: like it's a trend, you know, ever since they've you know,

614
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: pretty much been re upped.

615
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: Whether you look at you know, Zai or.

616
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Speaker 2: Franklin and all the guys on the defensive side of

617
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: the football, whether you look at some of the guys

618
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Speaker 2: in the offensive side of the football, at the last month,

619
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Speaker 2: six weeks of the year, this team always tapers off

620
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: and just does not find way to win games.

621
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Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously I brought up, you know, the stat against

622
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: Houston Jacksonville early under styke In at two and eight,

623
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: and you know, it's not like these NFL programs that

624
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: you're facing in those two cities have been the most

625
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Speaker 1: consistent winners necessarily.

626
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Speaker 3: Or you know, zero issues. What's so?

627
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Speaker 1: I mean, look at look at Houston start of the year,

628
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Speaker 1: they lose CJ. Straut for three weeks and here they.

629
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Speaker 2: Are, well, they find themselves without CJ. Strawt, which is remarkable.

630
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Speaker 3: One eight of ten here and currently in the playoffs.

631
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Speaker 1: I think it's probably my biggest issue with stich In

632
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 1: is and I get this is the little gray area,

633
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Speaker 1: and maybe it's unfair of me, but I do think

634
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: as the head coach, pulse of the team, getting your

635
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: team ready.

636
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Speaker 3: For these games.

637
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: Uh huh, I think it's a very fair criticism, says he.

638
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: Has not met the moment as a head coach. You know,

639
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: I honestly think his play calling largely is good. I

640
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: know there are some people that disagree with that. I

641
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: definitely think there are moments where he struggles in that area.

642
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: But I think play calling offensive play calling is one

643
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: of the hardest jobs in the NFL, and it to

644
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: me would take up and does take up so much

645
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: of Shane's time during a week that the CEO element

646
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: is gone or is strain. I should say, you aren't

647
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: allowed to commit as much time to the full fifty

648
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: three man overview that you have to have as a

649
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: head coach as well, it says a ton on your

650
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: play and again, some coaches obviously pull it off. Other

651
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: coaches decide to defer to other people in those roles.

652
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Speaker 1: And when these games have shown up on the schedule,

653
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: because yes, Jacksonville in Houston Week seventeen eighteen could be

654
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: big games, but before those are big games Week thirteen

655
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: and fourteen, we're the biggest ones with Houston and Jacksonville,

656
00:31:52,560 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: and yet they are not able to get there. So, yeah,

657
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: we have a mediocre culture. How do you change that?

658
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they obviously have tried to tweak some of

659
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: the personnel. It's was tweaked the most, but again you're

660
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 1: largely talking about the same core. But yeah, if you're

661
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: gonna change the culture, then you've got to strip it down.

662
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean that starts at the top, right,

663
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: and then it falls down from there. Right, Tyler is next,

664
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: where do you realistically see the organization going in twenty

665
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: twenty six? Injuries to keep players squashed? Hope, but this

666
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: regime has proven time and time again that they can't

667
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: win against legit teams and still don't have a long

668
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: term answer at both quarterback and edge rusher. I can't

669
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,719
Speaker 2: take another year of Chris Ballard and Shane Steichen being

670
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: in charge.

671
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tyler, it's a really fair question. I think it's

672
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 1: a hard question, and I don't think the answer is

673
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: that easy. And again it's coming from someone that I

674
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: probably have been the most skeptical for Chris Ballard of

675
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: maybe anybody in our you know, in our little colts

676
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: media bubble.

677
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: But you created a whole different situation. Some might say

678
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: problem is the word they would use, but when you

679
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: said yes to the sauce gardener trade, you created a

680
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 3: whole different situation. As a franchise.

681
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: You not only said you're pushing chips in the middle

682
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: of the table. You not only were trying to acquire

683
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: an all pro player at a premium position. Again, there

684
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: are a lot of positives to obviously trying to make

685
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: a trade of that magnitude, but you also said Daniel Jones,

686
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard, Shane Steichen, we believe, we believe in you wholeheartedly,

687
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 1: even if the resume doesn't necessarily say we should.

688
00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do.

689
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: So when you make that trade, you're sending messages to

690
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: the pill you know, I've always talked about the pillars

691
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: of a franchise, quarterback, head coach and GM. You sent

692
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: a message indirectly but very emphatically to those three people

693
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: that we believe in you.

694
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 3: And now what do you do? So is the window

695
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 3: still there? Is that? You know? Yeah?

696
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: It just so much of it now is met with

697
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: murkiness unknown, and you know how to properly.

698
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: Move on from it? You know?

699
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: Again, I go back to what I said earlier. I'm

700
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: very torn on the aspect of just because you might

701
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: not be keeping the cupboard well stocked for the next

702
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: GM doesn't mean that the current GM deserves another year.

703
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: The Bird on the other shoulder says, could you could

704
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: you just up this whole season injuries?

705
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: Yeah?

706
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 2: But you look at San Francisco, right, I mean you

707
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: don't have George Kittle, Juwan John Jennings, I.

708
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: Just Micky Peters. Houston, they've lost their quarterback for three weeks.

709
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: You Bosa, Yeah, I mean you're gonna be Yeah. It

710
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 1: just and again this gets into I think of debate

711
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: maybe Eddie we had last week.

712
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: I even think it goes back to you know, Isaac's

713
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 2: question at the start, just the culture of the team.

714
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think a debate we had a

715
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 3: little bit last week. I think it was last week.

716
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 3: Does two months of good football outweigh eight years on

717
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: a resume? Right now?

718
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: Did the Chris Bower that walked into Jim Mersey's office

719
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen, is that now a new one that

720
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: walked in in twenty twenty five.

721
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

722
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: Of Hey, I'm gonna spend in free agency. Hey I'm

723
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: gonna trade some I'm to try to do some aggressive thing.

724
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: So all of this is very very difficult. And if

725
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: Carli Ersa Gordon got in this mindset over the last

726
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: month and a half of I'm not going to be

727
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: doing a GM search. I'm not going to be looking

728
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: into a head coach situation. And now in one moment,

729
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: does she want to restart all that? Not that you'd

730
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: be behind the eight ball necessarily, but you know a

731
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: lot goes into that. Now, granted I'd like to think

732
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: over the course of the off season. You know that's

733
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: part of the due diligence you have to do as

734
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: an owner, especially with Ballard and Spikeen's resumes. And again

735
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: those two individually, should they be tied of the hip

736
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: or not. I've always said I believe the GM and

737
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 1: the head coach should be. But if you literally said

738
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: to me and Eddie, we do those pods in January

739
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: and February every year. We do a pod specifically to

740
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: evaluate Chris Ballard or the Colt GM should and we

741
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: do a pod to evaluate the Colts head coach because

742
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: I do think they should be evaluated individually. Now, again,

743
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: as an ordization, you've got to make a decision that

744
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: it's healthiest for the entire operation. But like if you

745
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: strictly gave out a letter grade, how has Chris Ballard

746
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: performed in his Colt's tenure and gave out a letter grade.

747
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 1: How has Shane Seikin performed in his Colts tenuere, I

748
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: do not think their letter grades are the same. Yeah,

749
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: so Tyler, right now, where do you see the Colts

750
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: realistically going in twenty twenty six? I'm sorry, brother, but

751
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: I have no clue. I guess you would run back

752
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: and see ballad out through this end of the contract,

753
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: like you mentioned earlier, Eddie.

754
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 3: I I don't know, man.

755
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I say that with the amount of dejection

756
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: in my voice that it sounds like, yeah.

757
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 3: Like I don't.

758
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: I think for the most part, I always either try

759
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: or do have answers. Again, they're not always the right answers,

760
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: but you guys ask the questions. Don't want to make

761
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: sure that I'm not just ask them, Edian. Then I

762
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: just sit here and you know, twittle my thumbs for

763
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: five minutes. But these are met with some very difficult

764
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: realities of where you're at as a franchise.

765
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's I mean this is all from

766
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: the football operations aspect to Kevin, like, there's a whole

767
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: other side of the cult organization in terms of the

768
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: business operations and all that stuff that we don't know

769
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: how that's going right now, Like we don't know how

770
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: that transition is going, just because there's a lot of

771
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: legalities that have to happen, you know, by a certain time.

772
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: With unfortunately the passing a gym and the passing of

773
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: the ownership to the three daughters that there's there could

774
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: be other things behind closed doors that we are privy

775
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: to that are more you know on top of mind,

776
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: uh for the three daughters.

777
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that yeah, that is something that I know people

778
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: have asked me about. I don't it's important to probably

779
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: bring up. I just don't know if we have a

780
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: lot of detail on it though exactly.

781
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 2: That's what I was more so just bringing up, like, hey,

782
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 2: this is also something you know type deal. Two questions left.

783
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: Jay says this, this feels like a funeral on a

784
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: season that started out seven to one. I don't know

785
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: how many NFL teams that have started seven to one

786
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 2: and not many of the playoffs do Shane Stikeen and

787
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: Chris Ballard make it to next season with new ownership.

788
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 2: Worst feeling I've ever had as a cold fan because

789
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: I waited to believe, believed in the team that I

790
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: saw the vision. This regression is just demoralizing, Thanks Kevin,

791
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: And I think that's a really good point made by JKB,

792
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 2: just because of the fact that you know, oftentimes, if

793
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: you do see a team in this situation where they

794
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: start out you know, seven and one, you know, seven

795
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: and or seven to two, or whatever the case may be,

796
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: and miss out the playoffs, there's usually change.

797
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 3: Well, there's usually changing, And I'd argue there's usually light

798
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: at the end of the tunnel. Yeah. The light is

799
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: usually a draft pick. Yeah.

800
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: And I think that's what stings as well about this

801
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: because there are I get that there's a large chunk

802
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: of sports fans and professional sports they love the draft,

803
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: they love the building of it, and the fact that

804
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: again the Pacers have that carrot at the end of

805
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 1: the season, yeah, and the Colts don't. And they don't

806
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: have it next year either. So I think that is

807
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: what makes this so sour like. Obviously, Halliburton tearing his

808
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: achilles in Game seven in the NBA Finals, to me,

809
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: is in a different stratusphere than Daniel Jones tearing his

810
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: achilles in a Week fourteen game against Jacksonville. Right, Okay,

811
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: let's say the game freezes right there. The Colts would

812
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: have been out of the playoffs in that very moment.

813
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: You know, the rest of the game is a Week

814
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: fourteen playout. The Pacers had a lead of halftime in

815
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: the Game seven of the NBA Finals. So again, and

816
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: comparing Halliburton as a player to Daniel Jones a player

817
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: too is not fair either to Tyres. But I go

818
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: back to what I said a few minutes ago, Carley

819
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: orse Gordon by that trade, she told us everyone was safe.

820
00:40:54,680 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: Now are you sitting here with one of the longest

821
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: playoff droughts in the entire NFL? Continuing not to mention

822
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: the AFC South. I think the AFC South is I mean,

823
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: it would have to JACKSONVI would have to, you.

824
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 3: Know, lose a whole lot. How Houston have to lose

825
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: a whole lot that a South is all but gone.

826
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 3: I guess that's the best way to put it. And again,

827
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 3: so much of it comes, you know, these little segments.

828
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 3: You know, we talked like should the final month? You know,

829
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 3: we said on last week's December it is gonna be

830
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 3: the biggest month this franchise had in years, Like should

831
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 3: it matter to that degree? You know, it just seems

832
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: like such a small sample size, So all of a

833
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 3: sudden put that much weight to it. But here you are,

834
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: So how does Carly view it?

835
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that would really bother

836
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: me is what Houston Jacksonville have done yeah to India

837
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: over the last three years.

838
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: That would really bother me because I don't especially Jacksonville

839
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 3: just don't view them us like big brother. They've been

840
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 3: that to you.

841
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: That would be hard to I know we see that

842
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: a lot, like in college sports, when the right will

843
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: best you. You know, it's hard to overcome that for

844
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: a coach. I guess those are the closest things for

845
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,439
Speaker 1: the Colts rival really when you look at it from

846
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: that standpoint.

847
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: And you look at it from this standpoint too, like

848
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: just like next year, keV, they'll be playing a third

849
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: place schedule, you know, assuming things go that the way

850
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: that we anticipate them too. I mean, so you're looking

851
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: at Miami, you're looking at Cincinnati, You're looking at Kansas City,

852
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: Washington or New York, Detroit, Chicago, Green Bay, depending on

853
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 2: how that you know plays out in the NFC, North Atlanta,

854
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: and then you know one of San Francisco, Los Angeles

855
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 2: or Seattle potentially next year on the schedule as well.

856
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,479
Speaker 1: And two also with Carly, like, is there any part

857
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: of her that is open minded to the strip down rebuild?

858
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: You know, I would say this in several businesses, not

859
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: just professional sports. So sometimes in a business, Eddie, when

860
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: you see someone take over that's new, they want to

861
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: come in there and put their fingerprints aggressively on it and.

862
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 3: Want to strip it down. Now again, the move for

863
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 3: Gardner would indicate no, But.

864
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: Is that appealing at all to her of Hey, I'm

865
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 1: gonna be new, let's you know, ride in here with

866
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: whatever new GM, new head coach and keep on going.

867
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: Final question is from Trent, give one reason to keep

868
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 2: believing in this team this year, next year at all.

869
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 2: It's hard to keep coming back to this team that

870
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 2: seems to disappoint year after year. Talk me off the

871
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 2: ledge or push me.

872
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 3: I don't know.

873
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, honestly, the best part.

874
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 3: Well, first off, the NFL is wild. Let me start there.

875
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: And four weeks a long time, yeah, I mean look

876
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: at the last four weeks for the Colts. I don't know,

877
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: were they the one seed four weeks ago, Eddie, I

878
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: mean they had to be close to it. I mean

879
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: they've gone from one seed to eight in in in

880
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: four weeks, So I would start there. I think I

881
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: pointed out to kind of lead off the show. You

882
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: could look at the playoff standings right now and say

883
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: it's probably eight for seven spots. And I mean, if

884
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: you look at the Charger schedule, it's really difficult the

885
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: rest of the way, and you do face Jacksonville and

886
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: Houston still.

887
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like you know, you do get another crack

888
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 3: at them.

889
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: You know, can Jonathan Taylor get back to being Jonathan Taylor?

890
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: Do you get Buckner and Gardner back?

891
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't think Gardner's back Sunday. I don't.

892
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: I don't think Buckner's far off. But I don't get

893
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: the vibe that Sunday's a slamdunkey either.

894
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,280
Speaker 3: Right, you know he is eligible.

895
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: Does this change with Buckner? Do you bring him back?

896
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: Oh? Boy, I need gosh. You want to talk about

897
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 3: all the questions that I thought about over the last

898
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 3: twenty four hours.

899
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: I didn't even pondered that one. I mean, hell, do

900
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: you bring back Sauce if you go lost loss?

901
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: You know, I would say you would have to bring

902
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: him back, right, just because the fact that he's not

903
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: on injured reserve.

904
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: Right, but do you risk you know, are you in

905
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: the calf could turn into an Achilles thing?

906
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 3: Right? I mean I hate to even say that, but like, I.

907
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: Mean, it looks like they handle things well with Kenny

908
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: Moore's calf injury.

909
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, so yeah, I don't I don't know. I

910
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: say that with like I live in the three one seven.

911
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 3: You live in the three one seven. When you say calfs,

912
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 3: you say achilles, you want to rip your hair out.

913
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

914
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: Man, it's boy. That's a really good point. So yeah,

915
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 1: I I would say, Trent, to give you one reason

916
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: to keep believing four weeks a long time now, Jonathan

917
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: Taylor has shown and if you want to believe in

918
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: the run game, as much as teams might cheat up

919
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: a safety like, part of the appeal of obviously Anthony

920
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: and Richardson next to Jonathan Taylor is you've got an

921
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: extra number in the run game. I'm not saying Riley

922
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: Leonard is Anthony Richson as a runner, but Riley Leonard

923
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: can definitely run, and he's a very willing runner and

924
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: will put his body on the line. So can you

925
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: tap into some of that and then defensively Buckner and

926
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: Gardner for Seattle on San Francisco, I'd have to look

927
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: at a little closer, Eddie.

928
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 3: I know they are.

929
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: Still in the hunt for the one seed yep in

930
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: the NFC West title. I don't like, if I'm not mistaken,

931
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 1: I believe Seattle has the Rams on Thursday Night after

932
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: this game. Now there's still four weeks left, so I

933
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: think at that point all the games matter. But like

934
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: if you are a I don't know how Seattle's numbers work,

935
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: I'd assume the Rams game matters much more.

936
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 2: Than the Colts game. You are correct, they do have

937
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 2: the Rams after the Colts on Thursday night football.

938
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 3: But again they're what ten and three and the Rams

939
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 3: are ten and three? Yeah it was nine and four,

940
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 3: Like they're also jumbled together.

941
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: All of it probably matters a whole lot, But you know,

942
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: is that anything that happens. I want to say San

943
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: Francisco has like Tennessee this week, somebody like that as

944
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: they return from their bye week, so.

945
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: You are on it Tennessee at home, and then it's

946
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: a cult on a short week with Jacksonville. So yeah,

947
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: Trent again, can you get Taylor going the NFL's wild,

948
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: you know.

949
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 3: Just pierced to make a couple of plays. I don't know.

950
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 3: Talk me off the ledge or push me I.

951
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: Will, I don't know. Kevin, You've got two minutes for

952
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 2: your rant. Go I'm afraid of heights, brother, two minutes

953
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 2: for my rant?

954
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 3: Yep. Do you think nor Dame should be in? Yes?

955
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 3: You do?

956
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: Really yes. I also think Miami should have been.

957
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 3: In, oh So Bama out YEP.

958
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: If it wasn't apparent before, it was clearly apparent yesterday

959
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 2: with those rankings. Because if you look at just this

960
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 2: since the new format, every team that has been ranked,

961
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: no matter where they've been in the rankings, that has

962
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: played in a conference championship game and they lose fell

963
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 2: a spot or multiple spots, and Bama is the exception,

964
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: and they lost by twenty one or whatever it was

965
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 2: twenty eight. BYU loses to Texas Tech again and they

966
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: fall a spot. Obviously, Ohio State's gonna fall spot because

967
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 2: they lose to Indiana. But you get what I'm saying, SMU.

968
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: Last year, Yeah, I think you got to go back

969
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: eleven years of history of the CFP. Every team that's

970
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: awsome Championship weekend has dropped yep. My question would be

971
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: why is BYU dropping but Alabama's not?

972
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 3: That's the question.

973
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, if you watch the game, I really

974
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: both teams got handled. You could make a case BYU

975
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 1: was more competitive than Alabama. Alabama negative rushing yards yep

976
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: in the game. So okay, let me start here. I'll

977
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: repeat what I said last week about when you're ten

978
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 1: and two, you're not bowletproof. I want to see college

979
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: football team's schedule big time games earlier in the season.

980
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 3: I think it's important for the sport.

981
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: The problem is is when you then punish these teams

982
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: in the magnitude that you do.

983
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 3: You know, Texas for example.

984
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: A bit punished with the with the Ohio State game.

985
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: Why are these teams going to schedule them early in

986
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: the season. Yeah, and so I want college football to

987
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 1: figure that out.

988
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: Now.

989
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, by not being in a conference, has created

990
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: their own bed. And the bet is this, you have

991
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: to play those games early in the season, so you

992
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: better be good out of the gate. If you're not

993
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,919
Speaker 1: good out of the gate, there might not be many

994
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: opportunities the rest of the way. So this year, Not

995
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: Dame walks into a season with a freshman quarterback and

996
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: a new defensive coordinator. And the committee said, we don't

997
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: care about that. You lost by four points to Miami

998
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: and Texa A and M collectively. Yeah right, and we're

999
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: going to weigh that and hold that against you a

1000
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 1: whole lot as the rest of the season plays out.

1001
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: And if I don't, if I remember correctly, keV, weren't

1002
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,959
Speaker 2: they also dealing with injuries in Week one? Like didn't

1003
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: they have like three starters out or something? A couple

1004
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: of defensive backs?

1005
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, were more I think missed a little time earlier season.

1006
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 3: But I don't think I can play that card.

1007
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: I would trust me. I'm open any and all cards

1008
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: to play. But how are they gonna play that?

1009
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 3: Okay? The goal for the committee is.

1010
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 2: What get the best twelve teams in the CFP.

1011
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 3: Thank you, And maybe not twelve, maybe like the best

1012
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 3: ten because you have a group of five and all that.

1013
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 3: And that's another conversation though.

1014
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: Right, that's another element. I don't really want to get

1015
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: into all that. Do I think we wish have two Cinderellas.

1016
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 1: I don't have my fine with one Cinderella. I am

1017
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 1: the ACC just to go on a quick grant. They

1018
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: need to figure out their conference tie breaking standpoint to

1019
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: where Miami should have been in their conference championship. Our

1020
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: conferences have gotten too big because they don't play the

1021
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 1: same schedules within the conference. It needs to go to

1022
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, Alabama, they got in because they were the

1023
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: highest ranked.

1024
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 2: Team out of schedule and strength of records.

1025
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: Five way tiebreaker is why they got into the SEC

1026
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 1: title game. If the ACC would have had that, Miami

1027
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: then's in the game. If Miami wins, now you have Miami,

1028
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, and Alabama all in yep, and no James

1029
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: Madison and we don't have this issue. Haven't said all that.

1030
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: I've got gray with Alabama and with Miami. If you

1031
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: look at it over the last two weeks, Notre Dame

1032
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: was ranked above Alabama. Okay, let's look at the last

1033
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: two weeks. Notre Dame played one game. They beat Stamford

1034
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: by thirty on the road. Alabama without their best player

1035
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: for most of that game. Right Love was definitely banged

1036
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: up without Against Auburn the week prior, Alabama beats a

1037
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: one win Auburn team in the SEC by seven points.

1038
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: Anybody watched that game. Auburn looks god awful a million

1039
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: drops in that game. There one SEC win that year.

1040
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: Last year, Auburn was over Arkansas. Notre Dame went to

1041
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: Arkansas this year beat them by forty to the point

1042
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: where their athletic director had to fire their head coach

1043
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: the next day. Yep, you know who their athletic director is,

1044
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: the same athletic director that took over the committee chair

1045
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: a month ago. Just here to point that out.

1046
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 3: What does Alabama do then in the SEC title game? Steamroll?

1047
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 1: So I've we got to the points with conference championship

1048
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: games they can only help you, they can't hurt you.

1049
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 3: Is that it?

1050
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: If there's going to be that reward to me, there

1051
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: needs to be that risk. I know a lot of

1052
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: people gripe about Notre Dame and not playing a thirteenth game.

1053
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: Notre dame schedule this year was ten Power four teams.

1054
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: Boise in the playoff last year and won what nine games?

1055
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: This year?

1056
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: Won the Mountain West, Yeah, and Navy. Navy, assuming they

1057
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: beat Army on Saturday, will have won ten games. That

1058
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: Do you really want them to throw mercer on their schedule?

1059
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: Like Notre Dame was the only team in the top

1060
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: fourteen not to play an FCS opponent. So do you

1061
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: want them to add a thirteenth game and play Yeah

1062
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: again Mercer or Sam Houston State or Perrieview A and

1063
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: M or you know everybody does that. You know how

1064
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: you played what Kennessas State in Indiana State? And if

1065
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: you look at the strength of schedule going to the playoffs,

1066
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: Notre Dame had a harder strength schedule than I you Yeah,

1067
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: that's crazy as that sounds. Yeah, going in to the postseason,

1068
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: I hear all this is griping about Notre Dame schedule

1069
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: this or that, another thing that bothered me with the

1070
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: committee chair, he brings up some of Alabama's wins from

1071
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: earlier in the season of teams that have fallen out

1072
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: of the top twenty five. Okay, did Notre Dame not

1073
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: be Pittsburgh and they fall out of the top twenty five?

1074
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: Well, is he talking about Missouri or is he talking about.

1075
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: Did Not No Dame not be Navy and then fell

1076
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 1: out of the top twenty five? Like that Every team

1077
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: can point to that. You know, It's like, that's just

1078
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: how the nature of the of the schedule plays out

1079
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: for teams. To me, that doesn't matter at all. And

1080
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 1: then the Miami. Right, first off, what happened this weekend

1081
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: Boise State one? Yep, Notre Dame beat Boise State.

1082
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: Yep. That should help Notre Dame Miami. Did they play

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Speaker 3: Duke No?

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00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: No, So I don't know where the help is necessarily

1085
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: with that. And four weeks ago the committee said to us,

1086
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: what Notre Dame is eight spots better than Miami. What

1087
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: has happened in the four weeks since? This is what

1088
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: Notre Dame has done in the last four weeks. They

1089
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: won by thirty nine over a nine win team. They

1090
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: went on the road and won by twenty two over

1091
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 1: an ACC team. I'll point out the ACC because that's

1092
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: where Miami resigned. Notre Dame then beat another ACC team

1093
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: by sixty three points. And then in their final game

1094
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: of the season, as I mentioned earlier, they went on

1095
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: the road. They beat an ACC team by twenty nine points.

1096
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 3: So you add up all that, that's four wins, two

1097
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 3: over former top twenty five teams, as the committee chair

1098
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 3: likes to say, by an average of thirty eight points.

1099
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 3: That's what they did in the four weeks. And in

1100
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 3: that four weeks, Miami moved up nine spots to pass

1101
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 3: Notre Dame. That to me doesn't make sense, and that's

1102
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 3: my biggest gripe with the committee. Make it make sense.

1103
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 3: To me.

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00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: It does not make sense both of them, Miami or Bama.

1105
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 1: And again I get the head to head. I totally

1106
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: get that, and I'm not here to ignore it. I

1107
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: also don't think it necessarily needs to say it's totally gospel,

1108
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: because I want college football teams to schedule in the

1109
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: manner that they are in Miami beating Notre Dame by

1110
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: three points on August thirty first, so I think, all

1111
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 1: of a sudden that should make up for nine spots.

1112
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 3: In the poll. I don't.

1113
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: I think some of that context should be taken into account.

1114
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: What do you think would happened to those teams played

1115
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: on neutral field? You look at all these computer metrics

1116
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: atty of what the spread would be from a Notre

1117
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: Dame standpoint on a neutral field against these teams, and

1118
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: tell me they're not one of the best five, seven, eight,

1119
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: nine teams in collegetable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that stretched for Miami. If you're listening and

1121
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 2: you were curious, they beat Siah. This is after losing

1122
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: to SMU in overtime two weeks after losing at home

1123
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 2: to Louisville in a game that wasn't as close as

1124
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 2: the score indicated of twenty four to twenty one. They

1125
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 2: beat Syracuse by twenty eight. They beat n C State

1126
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 2: by thirty four. At Virginia Tech they win by seventeen.

1127
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 2: At Pittsburgh they win by thirty one. Yeah, Miami did

1128
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: I mean Miami handled business. And I may mention that

1129
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: because you know, Notre Dame, you know, walloped Nancy State

1130
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: thirty six to seven, Virginia Tech three and eight or

1131
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: three nine on the season, and then Notre Dame walloped

1132
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 2: pit thirty seven fifteen.

1133
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: Again, my bigger gripes are why did BYU drop but

1134
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: not Alabama?

1135
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 2: So are you looking at the fact that, hey, Miami

1136
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 2: beat Pittsburgh by seven more points?

1137
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, which Miami threw a forty our touchdowns like forty

1138
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 3: seconds ago in that game to try and you know,

1139
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 3: produce some more more points there.

1140
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: And I would like to see college football continue to

1141
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: schedule these games early in the season. I think they're

1142
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: important for the sport, but I don't think all of

1143
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,439
Speaker 1: a sudden it should be the biggest punishment. Having said that, again,

1144
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: Notre Dame has made this bed. When you aren't in

1145
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: a conference, and I don't sit here and say, join

1146
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: a conference with care all, Tell that to B, WHYU B?

1147
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: Why you joined a conference? What did what did it

1148
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: do for them?

1149
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, so to me, that doesn't cure all.

1150
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 3: But that's neither hearing over there.

1151
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: Apologies to the Notre Dame rant as if you hated

1152
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: Notre Dame enough, they just add to it with me

1153
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: bitching a moaning once. Thank you Eddie for making me

1154
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 1: wait till the end of the podcast.

1155
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 3: You're welcome. Yeah, you're welcome.

1156
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: We'll be on the lookout for the Daniel Jones update. Yeah,

1157
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: probably the worst, you know, yeah, I assume the worst.

1158
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 2: Probably nothing emergency. Will just come back on Wednesday previewing

1159
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 2: Holts and Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: Thank you,