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Speaker 1: I woke up last night, Casey, Yeah, with the horrible itch.

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Speaker 2: What an its? You can't scratch?

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Speaker 1: I just I woke up and I was getting the itch.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. It's for what.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a second.

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Speaker 2: You got dry skin? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Oh? But first, it's our For those of you have

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Speaker 1: been following the program today, it's Kenney Casey show. I'm

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Speaker 1: Rob that's Casey uh. And it's our our victory lap

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Speaker 1: on being completely right about another dirt ball in the

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Speaker 1: Braun administration who has resigned. And we were right, and

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Speaker 1: we were first. And we're talking about Jennifer Ruth Green,

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Speaker 1: the former public safety secretary, a failed congressional candidate turned

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Speaker 1: public safety secretary because that's how government works. You fail up,

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Speaker 1: get rejected by voters. They're there, we'll take care of you.

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Speaker 1: Here's a two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars plus

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Speaker 1: benefits job gig. And she allegedly had so little respect

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Speaker 1: for that, was allegedly so unthankful for the gift. We

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Speaker 1: the taxpayers giver, don't Braun gave it to her. We

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Speaker 1: whipping out his wallet and pay the that that she allegedly,

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Speaker 1: according to this expose in the Indiana Capitol Chronicle, behaved

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Speaker 3: So, Jennifer Ruth Green, she recently resigned as Indiana's Public

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Speaker 1: Okay, now I'm going to read this from the Capital

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Speaker 1: chronic First of all, there was an according Capital Chronicle,

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Speaker 1: there's a remediation agreement, which means Braun's people Braun because

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Speaker 1: Josh Kelly is mentioned in here, that's the chief of staff.

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Speaker 1: Ain't nothing happens with Josh Kelly that you know, Braun

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Speaker 1: going on. She signed a remediation agreement in July, so

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Speaker 3: Right? So, a remediation agreement, it's like a performance improvement plan.

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Speaker 1: And this is important. According to the Capitol Chronicle, it

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Speaker 1: for those of you who don't know, you may have

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Speaker 1: they don't have criminal investigative powers, but they have powers

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Speaker 1: So like they couldn't arrest her or they couldn't arrest

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Speaker 1: Diego if they found something inappropriate has taken place, But

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Speaker 1: they have the ability if they so choose, to take

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and all of this happened during work hours. She

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Speaker 1: Okay, she has denied this, she said, quote and according

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Speaker 1: Capital Chronicle, I'm disappointed and disgusted by these baseless allegations.

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Speaker 1: But it's not the first time in my time in

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Speaker 3: Okay, so she's turning it around on people in the

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Speaker 1: The problem is she signed off on some of this,

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Speaker 3: Do the remediation have some sort of confidentiality clause in it?

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Speaker 2: Right, it's thank you for your service, best wishes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, none of this coming out, So why did Braun

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Speaker 2: All trying to save face about this.

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Speaker 3: Like, you know, Braun's message was, hey, she was instrumental

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Speaker 1: Well, she claimed some of it wasn't the truth, and

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Speaker 1: that's fine. Look it's an allegation, it's a report. However,

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Speaker 1: So do we know anybody like that? Nobody that happened to,

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Speaker 3: The IG's office started what the investigation in February, and

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Speaker 1: That's what it looks like according to this article. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm that's why I'm saying this is about saving.

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Speaker 1: Face and her old deals. I was framed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think she's mad that it got out.

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Speaker 1: But it is really an insight. So when you look

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Speaker 1: But got your journalism this woman. Oh it's a people

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Speaker 2: Yeah. She denied the allegations, called them politically driven.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's never it's it's just it's never them.

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Speaker 1: How does your life get any better if she's in

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Speaker 3: Yeah uh yeah, these are the political implications, right, because

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Speaker 1: All right, we gotta take a break. I want to

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Speaker 1: hear about the well I woke up. I woke up

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Speaker 1: and I I had a bad itch last night, Casey,

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Speaker 1: and I ran it by you, and you said we should.

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Speaker 2: Talk about it a dermatologist.

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Speaker 1: The itch went away, but it pops up every so often.

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Speaker 2: Coming up from ninety three w IBC.

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Speaker 1: Somebody's got to stop these people casing.

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Speaker 2: Which people, the politicians.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he will run the state. I mean, and this

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Speaker 1: and it's just look, I mean, we're just like across

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Speaker 1: the board, we've laid it up Braun Roketa, Micah Diego, this,

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Speaker 1: there's tons of stuff. We have no idea what's going on. Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we just scratched the surface on this behavior.

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Speaker 1: And it's not that it's just it is bad, but

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Speaker 3: Entire time they're supposed to be working for us, absolutely

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Speaker 1: It was walking with my daughter last night and this

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Speaker 2: I don't want to do this anymore. What are we doing?

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Speaker 3: Kendall for governor twenty twenty eight, Hammer for mayor, bringing

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Speaker 1: Steven's never mind, I don't want that, Stephen. Any reporter

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Speaker 1: So the question is can one person actually even make

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Speaker 3: Because well, what happens more often than not is you

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Speaker 1: And then they don't, and then they don't, and you're right,

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Speaker 1: No, you could fight it, and you should. You could

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Speaker 1: I guess unless that's something that involves you being able

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also a world that's becoming more and more

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Speaker 1: So then you texted John Rust and asked him if

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Speaker 1: And then you're like, hey, can I have Russ's number?

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Speaker 1: So people may not remember. John Rust was an egg

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Speaker 1: We laugh about this. All the money stays with protecting

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Speaker 2: Three million seed?

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Speaker 1: Here's million money. This is the deal. This is what

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you gave me the right phone number.

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Speaker 1: Whoever you texted? Yeah, did they say who's this?

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Speaker 2: No, they didn't reply at all.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they don't like you.

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Speaker 2: Said, you've been quiet lately? What's new with you?

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Speaker 1: I hope that's not him.

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Speaker 5: That is the number that I had.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's good. Maybe it's maybe he's busy coming up

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But then ion itch because like if I left here,

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Speaker 1: then what would happen? You know? Then what? You would

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Speaker 3: Here's going to join us. It's Kendall and Casey. It's

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Speaker 1: It was the interviewer that shocked the nation?

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Speaker 4: Is that it?

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Speaker 1: I think you're over selling that just a little bit.

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Speaker 1: How about that for a tease? When they interviewed the president.

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Speaker 1: Now the disgrace, Lieutenant Governor Hammer and Nigel are here.

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Speaker 1: We Hammer, hello, Nigel, Hello, we're doing this because your

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Speaker 1: normal segment with us Hammer, we called Tanner, who were

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Speaker 6: I'm more excited about talking about that than the interview yesterday.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, no, we're excited to go to that kid's

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Speaker 1: I thought you both did did a phenomenal job, and

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Speaker 1: good job not taking the bait when the Lieutenant Governor

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Speaker 6: So the thing is, we've got in theory ten minutes

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what he wanted because he didn't want to

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Speaker 6: Right, So I started looking for things to justify what

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Speaker 6: And I want to make it clear like I'm not

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Speaker 4: I want the dude to do well. Yeah, I want

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Speaker 4: it'd be the first quarter. Here, there's still time to

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Speaker 1: Sorry too soon?

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Speaker 2: Wow?

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Speaker 1: Hey I lost that bet too. Did I not tell

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 6: But like you, I know people have spoken about a

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Speaker 6: the best at this. You could ask Peyton Manning, hey,

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Speaker 6: So you have to keep the conversation going. And again,

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Speaker 6: I don't at any point feel like it was nasty

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Speaker 1: For yourselfs and this is we got to do this earlier.

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Speaker 1: All you were trying to say is and he tried

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Speaker 1: this is why people are done with you. Dude. You're

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Speaker 1: not the smartest person in every room. This is why

436
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Speaker 1: you got in trouble for the three fifths video. You're

437
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Speaker 1: not as smart as you think you are. And when

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Speaker 1: you're on a friendly show, who you guys have remained

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Speaker 1: friendly with him despite all the stuff, and he gives

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Speaker 1: the let me tell you how smart I am routine.

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Speaker 6: You guys handled it way better than I would have.

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Speaker 6: I think we pushed back. I think we did a

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Speaker 6: good job of pushing back on it. Based on the feedback,

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Speaker 6: I think people respected that. And again, you know, our

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Speaker 6: conversations are designed to get the information out there, get

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Speaker 6: him on the record. Nige and I know, and we've

447
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Speaker 6: been in this game a long time. We're not going

448
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Speaker 6: to change anybody's mind. There are a lot of radio

449
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Speaker 6: hosts that try to change people's minds.

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Speaker 4: That's not the business I show. I just want to

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Speaker 4: I want to keep people in their cars, Like when

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Speaker 4: you guys talk about us, what are you talking about us?

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Speaker 4: Earlier this morning? That kept me in the car because

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Speaker 4: you were talking about us.

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Speaker 1: Hearing my name, hearing my name hearing the.

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Speaker 4: Hammer and Nigel Show on the Kendall A Casey Show.

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Speaker 4: Now in the parking garage. I call it, you know,

458
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Speaker 4: the driveway moment. We want to create, you know, good

459
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Speaker 4: interesting radio that you don't want to get out of.

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Speaker 4: If you pull up into your house, you stay in

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Speaker 4: your car to listen to.

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Speaker 6: We inform and we entertain. Right, it's not our job

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Speaker 6: to change minds.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 6: We have our opinions. You know, I'm very pro death penalty.

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Speaker 6: Not everybody is that way, and that's fine, So I

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Speaker 6: share my opinion, but I'm not going to try to

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Speaker 6: talk somebody out of it.

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Speaker 1: I thought the most interesting part of that interview was

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Speaker 1: that he came out and said, I support Ryan Muir's

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Speaker 1: investigating my office, because that's been a talking point from

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Speaker 1: his people, which is, oh, this is a Ryan Muir's

473
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Speaker 1: gotcha thing. It's political. Mers is doing this to elevate himself.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna run for mayor governor. It's it's a witch hunt.

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Speaker 1: Well they can't say that anymore because he said on

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Speaker 1: your show he supports the investigation.

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Speaker 6: And I wanted to be clear that it wasn't just

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Speaker 6: this alleged video, right, because he kept taking it back

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Speaker 6: to that I don't know if the video exists. Hell,

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Speaker 6: the I personally don't know if it exists. You have

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Speaker 6: a different opinion. I've never seen it, so I can't

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Speaker 6: say that. But we're also hearing it's other stuff that's

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Speaker 6: being investigated. So what I say, is there a grand

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Speaker 6: jury investigation into your office. It's not just about this

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Speaker 6: alleged video.

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Speaker 1: It's other stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I feel like his answer changed just a

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Speaker 4: little bit the last time, from the first time to

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Speaker 4: the last time last yesterday, as Rob said, I think

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Speaker 4: you use the word hedge.

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Speaker 1: Yes, hedged The first time we had him on a

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Speaker 1: few weeks ago, maybe a month or month ago.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no investigation, nothing, no, no, I don't know

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Speaker 4: anything about it. It seemed like he was hedging a

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Speaker 4: little bit, which is fine.

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Speaker 1: I you don't push him on it a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Though.

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Speaker 6: He tried to pull that at the beginning, and we

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Speaker 6: were like, now, wait a minute, and.

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Speaker 1: I use the analogy.

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Speaker 6: If this is the office of Jason Hammer and somebody

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Speaker 6: in my office is speaking to investigators, I probably should

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Speaker 6: know about that. And that's when he opened up just

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Speaker 6: a little bit and hedged, as you say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is what I can't understand about all this.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's saying anybody did anything. What we're saying is this

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Speaker 1: investigation is on going, it exists, not saying there's going

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Speaker 1: to be an indictment, not saying there's going to be

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Speaker 1: a conviction. And he's so stubborn on even acknowledging what

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Speaker 1: everybody knows is going on, which is there is this investigation,

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Speaker 1: and most people who have done any amount of research

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Speaker 1: on it know that it's more than just the Aiport video.

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Speaker 1: And like the fact that he's so adamant about acknowledging

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Speaker 1: its existence is well, what else are you hiding?

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Speaker 6: So, when you're a politician, not just Micah but politicians

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Speaker 6: in general, when you lie early on right, you've better

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Speaker 6: work really hard to keep that life alive. And more

518
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Speaker 6: time goes on, more information comes out, it's harder and

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Speaker 6: harder to do that.

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Speaker 1: What are you guys doing today on your award winning program?

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Speaker 1: What you're doing?

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Speaker 5: What you.

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Speaker 6: Tony Kennett is going to call into our program and

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Speaker 6: we're gonna have some fun today. Man, it's such a fun,

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Speaker 6: fun job we have.

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Speaker 1: Man, what time do you drink your first beer each day?

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Speaker 1: What each day I would. I'm not a liberty to

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Speaker 1: say I plead the fifth. Then what time do you

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Speaker 1: drink your first? Next drink? Hammer? There is no investigation

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Speaker 1: into my office.

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Speaker 6: No one's told me about an investigation into my office.

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Speaker 6: Oh see how silly that sounds when other.

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Speaker 1: People do it. See how silly that sounds. We just

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Speaker 1: say it out loud. All right, we gotta take a break,

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Speaker 1: you guys. Everybody listen to Hammer today at three, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: at three to seven. Okay, when we come back, Abduel's

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Speaker 1: going to join us. We'll do some more deep dive

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Speaker 1: on this. Jennifer Ruth green stuff. Find out what he's

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Speaker 1: hearing about. We'll get into that more.

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Speaker 2: It's ninety three w IBC.

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Speaker 5: Really really long.

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Speaker 1: So the rumor, gossip, and blatant political innuendo is abundant

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Speaker 1: these days in Indiana politics. Let's get to the bottom,

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Speaker 1: or at least try to some up. It's Kettle Casey Show

545
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Speaker 1: and Rob Casey's here. Look who it is, Author, broadcaster

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Speaker 1: provocateur Delakim Shabaz.

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Speaker 7: Hello, No, I was trying to I was homesick for

548
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Speaker 7: a couple of days, just trying to recover, relax better,

549
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Speaker 7: and every time I turned on you or let's were

550
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Speaker 7: at Capital Chronic, like, what the hell are these people doing? Well, obviously,

551
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Speaker 7: is this what they do when I take a couple

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Speaker 7: of days off.

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Speaker 1: We broke the story and then Capitol Chronicle had the

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Speaker 1: big expose on it yesterday about Jennifer Ruth Green, the

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Speaker 1: former public safety secretary in the state of Indiana. They

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Speaker 1: tried to paint it as some well, just convenient departure

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Speaker 1: on a Friday afternoon, and we said, ah, nobody leaves

558
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Speaker 1: a two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars cushy government

559
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Speaker 1: job for no reason. And it turns out, as we've

560
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Speaker 1: talked about numerous times at the course of the program today,

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Speaker 1: the reason is she's allegedly a dumpster fire and sews

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Speaker 1: her office.

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Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, if everything I read so far, and

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Speaker 7: I got to spend the rest of this week getting

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Speaker 7: caught up on everything. When I saw the the interperfect behavior,

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Speaker 7: the mixing campaign political personal time with the government time,

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Speaker 7: and possible a toxic work environment and maybe like sexual

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Speaker 7: harassment allegation, not necessarily with mis Ruth Green, but in

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Speaker 7: the agency, I was like, what the hell are these

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Speaker 7: people doing? Like I don't understand this. This makes no sense.

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Speaker 7: I gotta get better. I got to go into work tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Among I'll just read as we did earlier in the program,

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Speaker 1: but we want to make sure that Capitol Chronicle who

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Speaker 1: filled in a lot of the blanks. We laughed about

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Speaker 1: this earlier, and we laughed about this on State House Happenings.

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Speaker 1: I said, look, I've had what I felt was a

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Speaker 1: rock solid source that told me what was going on.

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Speaker 1: We said it on the air, but then I was

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Speaker 1: told other people had it as well, and I said,

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Speaker 1: We'll let them do the work and fill in all

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Speaker 1: the details. And we were proven exactly correct, right, But

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Speaker 1: we want to make sure Capitol Chronicle gets the credit.

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Speaker 1: Among the allegations against green Or claims she used state

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Speaker 1: vehicles and travel cards for personal and political purposes, and

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Speaker 1: that she directed state employees to assist with those activities

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Speaker 1: during work hours. Additional accusations center around inappropriate workplace conduct,

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Speaker 1: ranging from quote conversations with employees about personal relationships, intimate objects,

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Speaker 1: or sexual activities, to quote uninvited touching of employees and retaliations.

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Speaker 1: She allegedly ran the gauntlet with the possible offenses in

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Speaker 1: this office in a very short period of time, by the.

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Speaker 5: Way, in four months. Congratulations.

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Speaker 1: How it's very rare. I'm at a loss for words.

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Speaker 1: But how do you allegedly commit this many potential infractions

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Speaker 1: in such a short period of time. It's almost as

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Speaker 1: though this person might have been trying. If these allegations

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Speaker 1: are true, well, I.

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Speaker 7: Look at it like this. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 7: most people do what they can get away with. And

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Speaker 7: apparently miss Ruth Green apparently thought she could get away

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Speaker 7: with this lage inappropriate behavior and the governor would protect her.

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Speaker 7: Apparently that was not the case. The facts were inconsistent

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Speaker 7: with what herror beliefs were. And if your Department of

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Speaker 7: Public Safety, it goes to trust and it goes to

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Speaker 7: credibility because people need to trust you. As a major

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Speaker 7: law enforcement official. You gott to have the trust of

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Speaker 7: not only your staff, but also law enforces across the

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Speaker 7: state of Indiana. And with all the issues that are

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Speaker 7: out there right now that law enforcement has to deal with,

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Speaker 7: one of which is a lack of funding because of

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Speaker 7: tax absence into but one of the whole nine yards,

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Speaker 7: you know, if the director, the state director of Public Safety,

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Speaker 7: has all these interesting problems like, what the hell I'm

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Speaker 7: moving to Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So this is the this is the thing that

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Speaker 1: I am floored by. Everything in our state government seems

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Speaker 1: to be a dumpster fire as it relates to these

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Speaker 1: high profile figures, right, or a lot of things anyway,

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Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about the rank and file workers,

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Speaker 1: but I'm saying you think about Okay, Bron's got a

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Speaker 1: mountain of issues. Right, then you've got Micah and a

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Speaker 1: mountain of issues, as Lieutenant Governor Micah beck with. You

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Speaker 1: got Diego the Morales, the Secretary of State. Mountain of issues.

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Speaker 1: Roketa may be about to lose his law license. Mountain

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Speaker 1: of issues, Todd Raketa, the Attorney General. And now this

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Speaker 1: one's like drama drama, drama drama. Why can't these people

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Speaker 1: just show up to work and do their jobs?

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Speaker 7: Well, how do I how do I say this? Because

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Speaker 7: they I would argue, my friend, the probately reason why

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Speaker 7: they do this is because they can get it. They

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Speaker 7: think they can get away with it.

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Speaker 1: You don't is that it's like a Scooby Doo episode.

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Speaker 1: And I would have gotten away with it meddling kids exactly.

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Speaker 7: And and the mystery machine of the whole nine yards.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I honestly do think at the end of

635
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Speaker 7: the day, it is we have rep what we've sown,

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Speaker 7: and we saw this, we saw this, we kind of

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Speaker 7: saw this coming doing doing the primary last year, then

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Speaker 7: the election, and then I can beck with at the

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Speaker 7: state convention and the whole nine yards, and you got

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Speaker 7: broad who is a who is a who is an

641
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Speaker 7: executive with a lot of business experience. But but but

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Speaker 7: running a government and running business are two totally different things,

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Speaker 7: all right. I believe the government can be run with good,

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Speaker 7: good good with good business practices like no balanced budgets,

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Speaker 7: spin what you take in, blah blah bah blah, don't't

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Speaker 7: occur much of my necessary debt. Those are those are

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Speaker 7: good business practice. However, all this, I don't know what

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Speaker 7: but this way and some and some altered universe, there's

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Speaker 7: a bizarre world where all this makes absolute perfect sense.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you've touched on this on your cheat sheet

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Speaker 1: a little bit. And it's becoming more and more rumored

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Speaker 1: in the State House that a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: very sour on Josh Kelly, Mike Brown's chief of staff,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people are starting to put a

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Speaker 1: bunch of this stuff on him, saying he is not

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Speaker 1: qualified for this position. He don't know what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: He's a just a just a nightmare to deal with.

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Speaker 1: And the end of the day, administration's kind of run. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the figurehead is the or the guy in charge is important,

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Speaker 1: but the behind the scenes, the worker bees. And it

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Speaker 1: don't sound like in Lebron administration. They got a lot

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Speaker 1: of people to know what's going on.

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Speaker 5: They have they have, they have a lot of experience,

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Speaker 5: but not in government.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Abduel is our guest. A couple of minutes left

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Speaker 1: with him. Jennifer Ruth Green, is she done? You said

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Speaker 1: on Sayal's happenings. You don't think this will affect at

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Speaker 1: all whether she runs for Congress, even as bad as

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Speaker 1: this report allegedly could be.

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Speaker 7: Unless unless there's live boy or a dead girl in

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Speaker 7: there somewhere, my money issue will probably run in the

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Speaker 7: first congressional district, and the in the in then in

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Speaker 7: the new congressional district. Well, first of all, let me

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Speaker 7: take a step back here. First of all, I don't

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Speaker 7: believe these maps are going to go into effect.

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Speaker 1: You don't think there's that they're actually going to redistrict.

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Speaker 7: Uh, they can. Redistrict registionan is one thing. Oh you're

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Speaker 7: saying legally, Yeah, I don't think the map is going

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Speaker 7: to go into effect because for a number of different reasons,

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Speaker 7: which I've read about extensively. So assume of the first

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Speaker 7: district stays as it is. If you're Frank Mervan, You're like, hey,

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Speaker 7: I want her. Yeah, no, she would be perfect. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: because he's absolutely perfect. And also too, you got to

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Speaker 7: keep in mind too, uh in those in those in

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Speaker 7: those African American communities, like you know, like Gary and

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Speaker 7: East Chicago, the whole nine yards, like hey, she's a

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Speaker 7: Trump person. You know, she's a Trump supporter. Blah blah

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Speaker 7: blah blah it like I have we have we met?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know why my Republican friends would

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Speaker 7: buy buy lawsuits and buy headaches, but apparently somebody's got

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Speaker 7: a lot of money running around to buy all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: But if you're some rich, a centric person and you

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Speaker 1: decide you want to run in that primary, the ads

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Speaker 1: against her right themselves, don't they.

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Speaker 5: I'd argue that's are probably already written well.

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Speaker 1: Right, And as the official black voice of the Kendall

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Speaker 1: and Casey Show, can you clarify for some people out

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Speaker 1: there trying to make this this this is not whether

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Speaker 1: her dismissal period or like my opinions that are. This

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Speaker 1: is not a racist or race thing. It's she was.

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Speaker 1: She appears to be clearly incompetent. Miyana had no business

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Speaker 1: being in this position.

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Speaker 7: When my father was live, he'd always tell my little brothers,

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Speaker 7: before you call the teacher racist, make sure you got

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Speaker 7: all your ducks in a row. Make sure, make sure

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Speaker 7: you need that the teacher's racist. Well, she just racist,

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Speaker 7: and apparently she likes to call her red son. So no,

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Speaker 7: if you make sure you got all your ducks and

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Speaker 7: row before you call somebody race goes to me, that's

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Speaker 7: some the best, one of the worst accusations you can

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Speaker 7: make against somebody. So have all your ducks in a row.

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Speaker 7: Then if then if there's something, there's something to be seen,

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Speaker 7: then we can take a look at it. But to

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Speaker 7: say that people are picking her because she's black, that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: All right, find him over at indie pos dot org.

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Speaker 7: If you keep shabaz. Thank you, Yes, that'll do it

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Speaker 7: for us today. Thank you to Kevin and Casey and.

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Speaker 1: Most importantly, thank you to you. Without you, there is

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Speaker 1: Noah's stick around Tony Katz. Coming up next, Kennely Casey

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Speaker 1: Show ninety three, WIBC,