1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: I am a fan of Michael Herklotz. I think that 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: when it comes to attitude, a belief in industry, and 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: a belief in self, I think Herklotz has got it together. No, 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, he's a bit of a fashionista 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: and that not one hundred percent my style. But when 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: it comes to cigars all day, it's eat, drink smoke. 7 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That right there is America's favorite amateur 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: drink our fingers bloy. I first met Michael Herklotz when 9 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: he was working at the Gnat Sherman Townhouse in Manhattan, 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: first time I had ever met him. At the pleasure 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: to be able to hit that store a couple of times. 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: Then when Nat Sherman sold and he was starting Ferry Otago, 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: the Generoso, the Allegancia, the Suma, which most people know 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: and really really enjoy, he then took back those not 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: Sherman names, Metropolitan and the Timeless and started bringing those 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: back to the American smoker. Well, he has been very busy. 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: Farryo Otago is now four years old and he has 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: with this The Timeless a TAA exclusive. So this is 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 1: the Tobacconist Association of America. Every now and then you'll 20 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: see cigars that say taa, that's what it is. This 21 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: was made for them. This is the twenty twenty four Toro. 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: This is a six by fifty, which means it's six 23 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: inches long. 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: Always makes fingers from really laugh. 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: And the ring gauge is a fifty the diameter of 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: the cigar or how thick it is around again with 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: the laughter. A sixty ring gage is a sixty four 28 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: ring gauge, sorry, is a full one inch around. This 29 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: is the right kind of size. This is made over 30 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: there in the Placentia factory where Michael Herclotts at Ferryo 31 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: Otago does a bunch of work and just this it's 32 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: this is Nicaraguan throughout right. This is a Nicaraguan puro. 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: That is a supple supple wrapper. It's got a little 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: bit of suede to it, it's got a little bit 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: of oil to it, a little bit of a glassy 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: feeling to it all the way around. Uh, slippery. The 37 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: wrapper feels buttery and looks luxurious. 38 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 39 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 3: The presentation is outstanding. The hand feel is just all 40 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: it's almost a little beefy. 41 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: It's a little beefy. 42 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and we like that. 43 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: Here cross a cigar that has some weight to it, 44 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: as beefy. If it's too light, it's a whiffleball bat. Yes, 45 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: but we just lit this. We're just in the first 46 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: third of the first third. 47 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: And I don't know about you, Tony, but right away 48 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: I get some some wood notes and a nice bit 49 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: of pepper, and there's a little bit of sweetness that 50 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 3: I can't quite put my finger on. 51 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: There is an absolute sweetness that hits right off the 52 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: bat and then gets back filled by a little bit 53 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: of that spice on the front of the tongue and 54 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: towards the back of the tongue. Now not tip of tongue, 55 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: front of tongue, which is most people feel it, you know, 56 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: right there? 57 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: Eh? 58 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 4: Right? 59 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: What was that again? Right there? Okay, this is the 60 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: front of the tongue. Is where this is. I think 61 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: that this is not my first one of these. Ah. 62 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: I want to know in the entirety of. 63 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: The Phario Tago line where this has been. This to 64 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: me is an absolute freaking winner. First of all, that 65 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: construction is fantastic. The weight of the cigar, I'm so 66 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: glad you pointed that out. It just feels so much better. 67 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: You you are you are made aware of the fact 68 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: that this has got some density and some depth, I'm 69 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: telling you. And it could be that the black and 70 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: gray band is so absolutely perfect with that little bit 71 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: of gold for the phariotago and the red writing of 72 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four it's the TAA that that was 73 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: the year. It's just everything about this presentation is luscious 74 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: and what you get match, which is the look of 75 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: the cigar, the band, the everything. To me, the first 76 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: thing that hit me after smoking this was this was 77 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: the most truth in advertising cigar that I've had in 78 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: a good long time. 79 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 3: I'll tell you something that really struck me to when 80 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: we first SLT this and as we're getting into the 81 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 3: first third, is that draws outstanding? Yeah? This, you know, 82 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 3: I don't want to jump to conclusions and I don't know, 83 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 3: you know, when we're talking about price point things of 84 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: that nature. We'll get to that later in the show. 85 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: But so far, I'm thinking to myself, Wow, if we 86 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 3: were ever ranking early on the cigars of the year, 87 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 3: so far this this is fantastic and it would be 88 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 3: in the running for me. 89 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: And now I will say this, so first, this plays 90 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 1: in the medium full full category. Secondly, this is not 91 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: for everybody, and I could see people saying, no, this 92 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: is too much of this, too much of that. It's 93 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: weird that this has more spice then maybe I normally 94 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: go for in a cigar. But there is something that 95 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: it is the balance rate aspect for me. There's some 96 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: flavor in there that is so moving me in such 97 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: a way, with a lusciousness with a creaminess and it's 98 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know if it's nutty, and I 99 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: don't know if it's like if I said a leather 100 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: cream let sorry, a leather custard. 101 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: That more explains. 102 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: What I get out of out of this cigar, uh 103 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: than anything else. 104 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: That's the kind of flavoring I get. 105 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 1: So there's that spice there, but there's this richness there 106 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: that's just a little deeper than other things. So when 107 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: I smoke, for example, the generalso from Farry Otago and 108 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: that the spice is really high on that and I 109 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: can appreciate it not for me right, And it used 110 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: to be I was kind of more into it, and 111 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: I've kind of morphed in that way. It's it's this 112 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: is playing more in in these in these flavors that 113 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: are really are are are just hitting me beautifully, And 114 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say leather custard. 115 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 3: Okay, we can go with leather custard. I'm going with 116 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: leather custard. I you know, since I've completely pulled out 117 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 3: my jump to conclusions Matt today when it comes to 118 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 3: the cigar. The other thing that I am interested in, 119 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: you know, as far as your opinion is when it 120 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 3: comes to this is are you worried at all that 121 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: at this point of course, the scar is most like 122 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 3: going to change as we get into the second third 123 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: and the final Oh goshy, But at this point I 124 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: would all almost be worried about what we would be 125 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: pairing this with because the stick could overpower some things. 126 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: Well, since it's already on the table, if you're watching 127 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: the video, you know, I got a rum for today. 128 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: I have a twelve year rum for us to engage 129 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: and enjoy with. And chicken is coming up. Oh yeah, 130 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's we're full on today. Is it in 131 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: pot pie form? 132 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: It is in Jack Daniel's form? Oh wow, I'm I'm 133 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: not good. 134 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: And the mashed potatoes were mashed by these two hands. 135 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: If these two hands belong to my wife. 136 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: These two indeed from Farry Otago The Timeless TAA twenty 137 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: twenty four. First, grab your notebook. What did you eat today? 138 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: What did you drink today? All those things are going 139 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: to affect your palette. Then take the cigar, break it 140 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: up into third's first, third, second, third, final third. What 141 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: are the flavors you're getting from each third? When you 142 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: try the cigar a month from now, six months from now, 143 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: you go back and you do the same thing, and 144 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: you check your notes, really get your your your through 145 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: line there. What it is the flavors that you got 146 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: out of it. I'm here to tell you this. This 147 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: cigar for me, there is something about how the how 148 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: that spice lays, There's something about that that leather richness. 149 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm calling it a hustard. It just hits me beautifully 150 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: and and it might not hit everybody this way. I've 151 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: heard people give different varying reviews of this stick. I 152 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: just think I just think it works perfectly. 153 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: For my palate. Thank you. 154 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: This does really linger on the palette longer, you know, 155 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: per draw it is. It's something that I'm really going 156 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: to I'm really excited to see how this smoking experience 157 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: unfolds as we as we get into the second third. 158 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: We will get into the price as well. 159 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: But it's signed for some Jack Daniel's chicken, okay, and 160 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you where you can get it. So there 161 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: we were in our local supermarkets, and in many supermarkets 162 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: they may have a section of things that are discounted. 163 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: You've ever been into the discount section of any of 164 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: those places? Of course? 165 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: I this is where I get about thirty percent of 166 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: my food, right, Tea. 167 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: Drink, smoke, I'm Tony Katz. That right there is America's 168 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Moloy. Well, in the discount section 169 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: there there was this Jack Daniels pulled chicken. Wow, ready made, 170 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: just heat and serve. You can put it in an 171 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: oven for three hundred, three hundred and fifty degrees for 172 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: thirty minutes, microwave three to four minutes, and then serve it. 173 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: And that's it. 174 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: And you've got seasoned, cooked chicken, and then a whole 175 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff that I probably shouldn't read right now. 176 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: All I know is it's two hundred and fifty calories 177 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: of serving three servings per container. 178 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: So that's basically what we got out of. 179 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: This four grams of fat and thirty four carbohydrates with 180 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: thirty sugars outstanding. There's a lot of sugar. Yeah, it 181 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: is in this. So what we did is we said, 182 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: does this make a perfect, easy to do, grab and 183 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: fix comfort food food for the football game. 184 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: You just need to do something quick, simple. You don't 185 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: want to think. 186 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: Now we did make the mashed potatoes, yellow potatoes, butter cream, 187 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: half and half? Or do we use milk? No use milk, 188 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: inness and salt. There's nothing kosher about this because you're 189 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: mixing the milk and the meat. I just we have 190 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: a lot of rabbis who listen. I need to let 191 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: them know. But there's nothing wrong with doing something pre made, 192 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: doing something quick. If you're you're serving, you're serving for 193 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: your family, you serving me a couple of friends. Not 194 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: everything has to be a massive production. 195 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 2: So saw this, it. 196 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 3: Was like, yeah, absolutely, no. You you mentioned comfort food 197 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 3: and football. The first thing I thought of when you 198 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,119 Speaker 3: brought this over is I can imagine a Saturday afternoon 199 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 3: lunch because this is something that you can throw together quickly. Yeah, 200 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: where you're you know, you're looking outside, the snow's coming down. 201 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: You want something a little bit warm. That'll be it'll 202 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 3: be food for your soul. You know, this is this 203 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: is the kind of stuff that would really hit the spot. 204 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: And you mentioned shepherd's pie. As you take a bite 205 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: of it, go right ahead on on the way you 206 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: think of it. 207 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: I did. 208 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: I was having a whole conversation on a radio show 209 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: about shepherd's pie and stew and like, I've never been 210 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: one of those guys. I've never clamored for it or 211 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: anything else. But this is I mean, this is exactly. 212 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: This is a little bit deconstructed, if you will, a 213 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: poor man shepherd pie in a bowl, but this is 214 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: it mashed potatoes and meat with some kind of worthy sauce. 215 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: Aside from the fact that this has too much sugar 216 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: for my life, where are you with this? 217 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: Well, first of all, you can never have too much sugar. 218 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: Having said that, what's amazing about something like this is, uh, 219 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: you know, there's not a lot here. I mean you 220 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: you've got a little bit of mashed potatoes, a little 221 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 3: bit of chicken. But you know, when you're done with 222 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: this bowl, you're not gonna eat anything else. This is 223 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 3: this is gonna be hearty. You you seem confused, perplexed, 224 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 3: what's wrong not this is it's actually pretty good. It's wonderful. 225 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: It's actually pretty good. So it's it. First of all, 226 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: it's it is sweet. It is definitely sweet. You definitely 227 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: want something with this. But I could see somebody while 228 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: as I sloppy joeing this. You know, this goes on 229 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: a on a King's Hawaiian bun. Yes, with a little 230 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: bit of Coleslaw and your set, you could. 231 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: Do a grab a whole package of Hawaiian rolls and 232 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 3: you know, slice them in half. Yep, do a whole 233 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 3: bunch of chicken sliders. It would be great. I'm wondering 234 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 3: with the potatoes if it actually needs something else that 235 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 3: would be maybe salty to kind of go with the 236 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 3: sweet of the sugar. 237 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: So you don't think the potatoes themselves are salty. Uh No, 238 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: you're saying, my wife makes terrible mashed potatoes. 239 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 2: Wow wowing, just said that right there. Maybe I think 240 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 2: that's a personal preference, but I don't think you're wrong. 241 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: I think what could go with this, And the reason 242 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: I think Coleslaw works is a little bit of crunch 243 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: to go with that. As a texture conversation, you can 244 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: also go with with some what what this. 245 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 3: Is going to anger you a work with me for 246 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: a second. Chrispy onions, crunched up fredos. 247 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 2: Do you want to me see if I have some? No, 248 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 2: I totally have some. 249 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 3: I'll go get some right now, don't don't you think 250 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: would that work? 251 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 2: Yeah? So kind of like walking taco stuff? Yes, yeah, salt. 252 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: That's why I was saying. 253 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: I wasn't joking about crispy onions, which we buy by 254 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: the bag and put them on salads and stuff. 255 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: Most people do that, stuff like on green beans and 256 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 2: things like that. Absolutely, that would work. 257 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: This works, yes, but you're but you're right if it 258 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: had a little bit of a salt crunch kind of 259 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: component to it. By the way, this whole thing and 260 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: this was how many ounces? So this was a pound 261 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: sixteen ounces. This was on sale for five dollars and 262 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: thirty nine toimes. 263 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:50,719 Speaker 2: You five point thirty nine. 264 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 3: It is a struggle to find a hamburger at that 265 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 3: price up round. Let alone, this is already pre cooked. 266 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: I would be interested to do a scientific experiment, yes, 267 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 3: throwing up not that, but that would be fun too. 268 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 3: You know when you when you get stuff like this 269 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: and they give you the heating instructions of either warming 270 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: it up in the oven versus for the microwave. I 271 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: would love to do a blind taste test where you 272 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: try both of them and if you really, if the 273 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: quality of warming it in the oven is that much 274 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 3: better than putting it in the microwave, do. 275 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: We want to place bets? 276 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: Because if you want to place bets, the oven is 277 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: a billion percent better than. 278 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: The microwave every day of the week and twice on Sunday. 279 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm not arguing that. But is the quality of 280 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: the dining experience of putting that in the oven versus 281 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 3: in the microwave and the convenience of it, is it 282 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: worth the extra time to put it in the oven? 283 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: I would argue it depends absolutely on what you're doing. 284 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: If you were putting something together for you in a 285 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: couple of guys halftime during the game, microwaves, fine, everybody 286 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: come in, dish themselves some out and be like, oh, 287 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: this is fantastic, especially for somebody like you who sets 288 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: up the whole TV thing outside. 289 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: Yes, which you too. I mean I never saw that 290 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: until you did that. I did not grow up that way, Honestly, 291 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: I didn't be to it. So wow, I would. 292 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 3: I didn't grow up like you Hicks. That's what you 293 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: just said to me. 294 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: That is so okay. 295 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: I now do that. Oh my god, it's the greatest, 296 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: and the kids will hang out. It's like, this is awesome, 297 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: this is fantastic, perfect, perfect. 298 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: You don't have to think about it. 299 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: The only thing I would say is if you're already 300 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: doing the meat ready made, if you will take the 301 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: time to mash the potato. If anything, if you're doing 302 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: it with family, it allows you a family moment. Get 303 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: the kids in on that. It gets them cooking, and 304 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: I think that's really important. Also, you have a better 305 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: chance of regulating some some healthiness of the food. By 306 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: knowing the contents of the mashed potatoes. You can determine 307 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: that saltiness and everything else and lower that and then 308 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: add it in other places with layers and textures. 309 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 3: What about introducing smoke into this, You mean, like a 310 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: liquid smoke in the mashed potato? No, no, no, no, 311 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 3: you warm this up on a tragger. 312 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: Honestly, I. 313 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: Now the answer is absolutely you can do it. What 314 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: would it matter. You just have it out there at 315 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: a number like two fifty or two twenty five and 316 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: grab it when grab it when it's done. 317 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 2: Just transfer the pan. 318 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: Because I think that came in a like a paperish pan. 319 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: You gotta put it in a metal pan or in 320 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: a pyrex to do that. 321 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 3: But I'd be interested to see if if you get 322 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: real flavor out of it, if you get real flavor 323 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 3: out of it, if it does something with the smoke 324 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: to negate some of the sweetness, if you feel like 325 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: it's too sweet for you. 326 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: Jack Daniels pulled chicken with their Tennessee Jack Danielson is 327 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: Whiskey Barbecue sauce. Yeah, this was on sale for five 328 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: thirty nine. It's an absolute winner. All it needs is 329 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: a TV outside with football. All honestly perfect, beyond perfect. 330 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: It you can you don't have to make everything by scratch. 331 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: You can play with it. Add it to the smoker, 332 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: add some other things to it. Check it out, Eat 333 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: drink smoke. It is your cigar and bourbon FOODI Extravaganza. 334 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. That is fingers Mooy. 335 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: Find everything we do at Eat drinksmokeshow dot Com from 336 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: Farry Otago. This is the timeless TAA Tobacco Association of America. 337 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: This is the twenty twenty four Nica Roguin throughout wrapper, binder, filler. 338 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm telling you that leather spice, custard, and even with 339 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: having just having the Jack Daniels pulled chicken, which is 340 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: super sweet, the spice is absolutely cutting through. 341 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of. 342 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: This cigar right here, fingers Moy, and I'm blaming I 343 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 3: am too. That spice for me has dissipated a little bit. 344 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: There's still that wood that I was talking about earlier, 345 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 3: that that sweetness is still there. Although again, like you said, 346 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 3: the Jack Daniels chicken medley messing, yeah, is messing with 347 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 3: my palette a little bit. So listen, We're still in 348 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 3: the first third of the cigar, but so far it's outstanding. 349 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a very big fan, and I've seen some 350 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: people comment on it be like it's not like a 351 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: regular Timeless. Correct. I couldn't see it. It is absolutely 352 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: not like a regular Timeless, But I dig it. 353 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 2: The question, fingers. 354 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: Moy, is this and this is a limited run of 355 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: a cigar. I think there are a thousand boxes, nine 356 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: hundred boxes. They come in a box of ten. Is 357 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: this in your humid or for nineteen dollars a stack? Yes, absolutely, 358 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: that is and I get it. It's expensive. And I'll 359 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: say it again, you'd be a lot happier if this 360 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: was fifteen bucks. Of course, you'd be a fifteen dollars 361 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: all day on this stick in nineteen Mikes, you go, 362 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,679 Speaker 1: And that's where we're at now. Later I'll share my 363 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: conversation with Michael Hrklotz, who is a Farry Otago. He 364 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: was here in Indianapolis at one of our favorite places, 365 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: Blend Bar Cigar a Blendbarsigar dot com, and he was 366 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: doing an event there and showing off some of the 367 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: new things going on with the Generoso in the Algancia. 368 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: And so we sat down and we talked. I'll share 369 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: that interview with you, but man, I would like to 370 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,880 Speaker 1: see some more of this coming off the line from 371 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: Farry Otago. And we have a beautiful twelve year rum. 372 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: I should I say beautiful. I'm hoping it's a beautiful 373 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:50,679 Speaker 1: twelve year rum. A pair of this with. 374 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: That's coming up, But it's time Fingers Maloy for news 375 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: of the week. 376 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: Well Tony, This week the Federal Reserve cut key interest 377 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 3: rate down to or by a quarter point, So you 378 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: know there's been speculation. No one happy there's been speculation 379 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: this was coming. There were some who thought it may 380 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 3: be a half point cut. It was a quarter point. 381 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: But they are going to meet again in what October, 382 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 3: I believe, so maybe there'll be another quarter point cut 383 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 3: by the end of the year. 384 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe. And they have the breakdown of how this went. 385 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: And only one person pushed for the half point. Everybody 386 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: else took the quarter point. 387 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: Now, there are. 388 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: Two things to take from this. One is political and 389 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: one is economic. On the political, President Trump, who as 390 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: we're talking right now, is in London with King Charles. 391 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 2: It's a state visit, is gonna lose. 392 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: His mind, is gonna call Jerome Powell, Chairman of the 393 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: Federal Reserve, every name he possibly can. It's not enough, 394 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: it's too late. Why aren't you doing enough? And there's 395 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people on Wall Street are gonna feel 396 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: this way. And the market only went up two fifty, 397 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: It didn't explode up seven hundred and eighty two points. 398 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: That's tepid. The two fifty up, which is nice, is tepid. 399 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: It's a response of this is is not what. This 400 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: is not where we thought you guys were gonna go. 401 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: This is not what we wanted you guys to do now, 402 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: there's a real conversation, in a conversation about mortgage rates 403 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: and other things, whether or not the cuts are baked 404 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: into the future. As very often, you'll sometimes see markets 405 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 1: not react the way we think they're going to react 406 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: because they did that four months ago. They were already 407 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: future seeing and said this is the way things are 408 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: gonna go, and so therefore, here's how we're already gonna 409 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: reprice ourselves, rethink ourselves. That's the political The economics here 410 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: says that the inflation is not gone, and you can't 411 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: lower interest rates if the inflation isn't gone. Inflation is 412 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: too much cash in a system and not enough stuff 413 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: to purchase. 414 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: That's what it is. 415 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: And we are still there from just the all the 416 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: spending during COVID, so there's still too much cash in 417 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: the system that manufacturing has been down in the past 418 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: six months. I'm not I'm not going to boo or 419 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: cheer against to cut. I see how it's helpful for 420 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: Wall Street. I see it's how it's helpful from Midwest 421 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: Main Street in the acquiring of capital. 422 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie. 423 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: I am absolutely concerned about inflation, and I'm concerned that 424 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna cut too deep, too quick, and the inflation 425 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: is only gonna get exacerbated, and that's the last thing 426 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: we need. 427 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the last thing we need. It just feels 428 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 3: like these are strange times because you keep hearing about 429 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 3: a labor market that continues to soften, and yet you 430 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 3: have the inflation numbers as well. But retail sales again 431 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 3: have been strong the last couple of months. They you know, 432 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 3: there was a it was a point six percent increase 433 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 3: in retail sales in August. They revised July's gain to 434 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: a zero point five percent according to Reuters. So there 435 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: are people out there that they're still spending money, but 436 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 3: everyone acknowledges that prices still feel like they're going up. 437 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 3: You go to the grocery store, you know, ground beef 438 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 3: is still ridiculously expensive. So number one, everything feels strange. 439 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: Number one, everything is too expensive, and ground beef absolutely is. 440 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: Thank goodness, we've got Defiance Beef. Defiance Beef dot com. 441 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: Use promo code, Eat, drink, smoke and get one hundred 442 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars off your cow. 443 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: You want, you want a quarter of a cow. I 444 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 2: have a cow, a whole cow butcher the way you like. 445 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm talking about getting some chest freezers or emptying out 446 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: what you've got and get ready for the delivery. With 447 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: Defiance Beef. They come right from Indiana to the butcher 448 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: to you. That's how it works. Cut to your specification, 449 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: cut to your thickness. You want ribbis, you want strips? 450 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: Do you want tenderlines? 451 00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: Ground beef? 452 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: How much they're gonna get it to you, all vacuum 453 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: packed twenty one day, aged every bit of that beef 454 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: age for twenty one days. So you've got a tenderness, 455 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: You've got a flavor, and man, incredible, incredible on the grill. 456 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: My order is placed. Fingers molloy, I am waiting online. 457 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: I can't wait to show it off to you. Defiance Beef. 458 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: Defiancebef dot com. Use promo code Eat, Drink, smoke and 459 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: get one hundred and fifty dollars off your order. And 460 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: I am telling you that you take a look at 461 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: those store prices, You take a look at what's happening 462 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: at your local supermarket. 463 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: I'm surprised more people aren't up in arms. 464 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I mean, I'm glad. I'm thrilled that 465 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: we have Defiance Beef as a sponsor defines beef dot Com. 466 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: I am hoping that when I see this order, I'm like, yup, 467 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: this is how I do it now. I don't buy 468 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: beef from the store anymore. I do it through Definance 469 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: beef dot Com. I do it from that local farm, 470 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: that local rancher, and I am set for life because 471 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: the economics of buying at the store right now, I mean, 472 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: it's not just beef. 473 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 2: These prices are nuts. 474 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 3: Can I share with you a story I wish that 475 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 3: just kind of ties into what you're saying, and how 476 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 3: wonderful would be to actually have your meat delivered to 477 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: your door instead of having to go to the grocery store. 478 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 3: I shop at a local chain here since I moved. 479 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 3: I'm not going to mention the name doesn't sound like no, 480 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 3: not going to do it because all these no, I'm 481 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 3: about to have a big bogers, going to have a 482 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: big gripe publics. I go into this store Robertson's No, No, 483 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: I go into this spor Are we done? Can I 484 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: shaft Mark? Can I share? And can we grow from 485 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 3: the sharing? Can that happen? 486 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 2: Brand Union? 487 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: Okay? There it is is. 488 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 2: Belves. 489 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 3: I go into the store and then Dixie, you know, 490 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 3: forget it, food Lion, forget it. I go to the 491 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 3: grocery store and it's always an enjoyable experience. 492 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 2: Aren't you impressed? I can name that many supermarkets. 493 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 3: That is that is impressive. That is that is impressive. 494 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: All right, go huh, tell you tell your story bresh market. 495 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 3: No, we don't have time. We don't have time. 496 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 2: Now we have time. Wait, do you want to save it? 497 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 3: I want to you know what, I will save it 498 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 3: because it is it is a rant, and I want 499 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 3: to see if it's just because I have horrible people 500 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: skills and I have a personality that pushes people away 501 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: instead of embracing people, or if I'm justified, justified in 502 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 3: my frustration about this particular grocery store. 503 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm willing to bet any amount of money without knowing 504 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: the story. This is really about you. I will bet 505 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: all of the dollars in my pocket. Wow, that is 506 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: somehow you. You did this wrong, and you owe somebody 507 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: in apology? No I do not they owe me an apology? 508 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 2: Is that right? Yes? 509 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 3: They do? 510 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll see all right. 511 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: So it's not often that fingers Maloy is complaining. I 512 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: said it because it was funny. 513 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: It's eat drink smoke. 514 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz and that is America's favorite amateur drinker. 515 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: Fingers molloy. All right, so story time. You know I 516 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: was gonna crack the rum now, but we will. 517 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 2: We will wait. 518 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: Fingers, Uh, did you have last time we talked about 519 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: a hard experience? 520 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 2: You had? 521 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: It was at a movie theater called Imagine Yes Uh, 522 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: And they then reached out to us. Turned out to 523 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: be some of the greatest, greatest people, and we are 524 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: working on an event that's gonna be so cool, a 525 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: fantastic fundraiser, and hopefully we'll have details to talk about 526 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: next week. 527 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 2: That would be amazing. 528 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: But honestly, we talked about this one movie theater where 529 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: fingersmoy had the only broken seat and we literally got 530 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: we're getting calls with the chief operating officer. It was 531 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: a fantastic conversation and now we're gonna do some cool 532 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: stuff and really help a lot of people. So is 533 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: this you griping because you really want to help others 534 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: or did something terrible happening here? 535 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 3: I feel like I when I share this story and 536 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 3: I can mention names if you want me to mention. 537 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: This is a public service announcement that you're doing right now. 538 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: I feel like what I am doing is sticking up 539 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 3: for the American consumer who just wants to go into 540 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: a grocery store and not be hassled. 541 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: I want you to tell the story, and then after 542 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: the story, we'll decide together, me and eating Smoke Nation, 543 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 2: whether you should tell us the name of the supermarket. 544 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 3: Okay, So these are two companies that have angered me. Two. 545 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: So I go to this new grocery store that is 546 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 3: by mic It's not a new grocery store. It's new 547 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: to me, okay, but it is a at least in 548 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 3: the Midwest, I believe, a very recognizable name in the 549 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: grocery store business. Is right, Yes, three times a week 550 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 3: I go in there because you know, I go in 551 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 3: for the family, and then Fingers Moly Senior has moved in, 552 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 3: and I'm I'm running in there to grab a couple 553 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: of things, and. 554 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 2: Singers mLOY seeing your shops on his own schedule. 555 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 3: That's true too, Yes he does. But sometimes I run 556 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: in there on my way home from one of the 557 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: fourteen gigs that I have. Having said that, so I'm 558 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 3: in there two or three times a week, and yeah 559 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 3: they should by Now I go to buy the meat 560 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 3: section and there are two to three people standing there. 561 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: What are they doing. 562 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 3: Trying to get me to switch my cellular service? 563 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what now you heard me? 564 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 3: I'm just minding my own business. Leaving the bakery section 565 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 3: of the grocery store, heading what I get pumpkin roll? 566 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 3: It's fantastic. Ohthough, oh like it's kind of like it's like, yeah, 567 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 3: oh magnificent. Notice it's not pumpkin coffee, but it goes 568 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 3: well with coffee the pumpkin roll. 569 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: So you get yourself a pumpkin. 570 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 571 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 3: Everything is great, every things coming up fingers right. And 572 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 3: so I'm heading to the meat section and there are 573 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 3: three guys and they every time, it's like it never fails. 574 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 3: I walk there, good afternoon, sir, how you doing today? 575 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 3: And they at this point they have to tell by 576 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 3: my body language, I'm like, oh, for crying out loud, 577 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 3: can I just grocery shop? Do I have to have 578 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 3: an added solicitor while I am walking through hassling me. 579 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 3: It's not once, it's every freaking time I walk in there, 580 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 3: and it's always different people because that has to be 581 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: a tough gig. 582 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: So you're in the meat section looking for steak, and 583 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: someone walks up to you and says, what, sir. 584 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 3: How are you doing today? Listen, we have a great 585 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 3: deal in partnership with this grocery store chain. We can 586 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 3: give you an excellent deal on cell service and you 587 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 3: can get the data and the cell and then we'll 588 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 3: give you a phone. And I at that point, I said, listen, 589 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 3: I said no the first time. This is the fiftieth time. 590 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 3: And I do my best to not get a tulippy 591 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 3: with them and show my real frustration because, like I said, 592 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 3: it is a different person every time, because I can 593 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: only imagine how difficult it is to hassle people in 594 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 3: a grocery store who they already have a phone in 595 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 3: their hand. Most people at the grocery store don't want 596 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: to be there to begin with. They want to be 597 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 3: with whoever is on the phone that they're texting or 598 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 3: they're getting on social media. They don't want to be there. 599 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: And then somebody comes up and then says, hey, there, Joe, 600 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 3: how would you like a great cell phone deal from 601 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 3: this company? Because you're in this store and I'm thinking 602 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 3: to myself, I'm not for long. If I keep getting 603 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 3: hassled about cell service, I can go to many other 604 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 3: grocery stores in the area. They don't do this. 605 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: So is this the only store of this happens to you? 606 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 3: Yes, the only grocery now, But it does happen at one. 607 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: Of the big Yes, the big box cost cod does this. 608 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: DJ's does this. Absolutely, they do yes. And so I'm 609 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: now going to tell you do you want my thoughts 610 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: on this? Like? 611 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: Is there a question involved here? Are you wrong? Or 612 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: are they wrong? 613 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 3: Am I wrong for saying enough? If you want to 614 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 3: do it on the outside of the building where I 615 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 3: can completely avoid you, Okay, fine, But when you're smack 616 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 3: dab in the middle of the grocery store, I think 617 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 3: at that point the grocery store is not being very 618 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 3: thoughtful to their customers. 619 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 4: Okay, I will tell you. I've heard you. You are seen. Yes, 620 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 4: I hear you. You're a real person, You exist, and 621 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 4: you have feelings, and I'm thrilled that you feel safe 622 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 4: here with eat Rink spoke Nation to share those feelings 623 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 4: with us. I would throw the general manager of the 624 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 4: store in jail. 625 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. What's the name of the supermarket Kroger. 626 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: You're out of your mind. 627 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: Kroger faced in Cincinnati, right down the road, You're out 628 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: of your mind. 629 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: Out of your mind. 630 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: Shopping experience includes the ease of shopping and someone trying 631 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: to sell me on AT and T Wireless. 632 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 3: I don't know if it was AT Mobile. 633 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,239 Speaker 1: That's wrong and I'm not against T Mobile, nor am 634 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: I against Kroger. I utilize Kroger not too far from 635 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: where I live, but that is a go to jail offence. 636 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm not talking about fun jail. 637 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking gen pop. You are wrong, You will always 638 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: be wrong. Make sure this gets to the head of 639 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: mister Kroger himself. 640 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 2: You're wrong. 641 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: We the people have spoken. We ad eat, drink smoke 642 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: Nation want you to know that it is such a terrible, awful, miserable, 643 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: very bad idea that I could absolutely see. While I 644 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: am not calling for a boycott, I could absolutely see 645 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,479 Speaker 1: people saying I'm going to shop somewhere else because that 646 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,959 Speaker 1: is uncomfortable. 647 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 2: Yes it is. 648 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 3: And again, you you want to voice your frustration, but 649 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 3: you don't necessarily want to do it at the people 650 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 3: who are just doing their job, because, like I said, 651 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 3: it's not like it's the same guy who you know 652 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 3: sees me three times a week and is saying, how 653 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 3: about now? 654 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: So if I could give you one thing that I 655 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: think you could you could do here. 656 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: I want you to go to another supermarket, like in Albertson's, 657 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: and I want you to grab a bunch of like 658 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: their loyalty cards. And the next time you're a Kroger 659 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 1: and someone comes up to you and they say, hey, 660 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: how you doing today, you should say to them because 661 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: you'll know because that's the code. 662 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 2: Yes, you said, Oh my gosh, I'm doing great. How 663 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: are you doing? Listen? 664 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: I think you should change your supermarkets. Check out Albertson's. 665 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: They've got all the deals at Albertson's. Oh my gosh, 666 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: have you seen their vegetable selection. It's incredible. Everybody loves it, 667 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: including that guy, that chick who was married to Dean Warmer. 668 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 2: They love the vegetables over it. That's that's what I 669 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 2: would do. 670 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: If you want to go create that video of us 671 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: trying to sell the T mobile people on a different supermarket, 672 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm hopefully we'll be thrown out of Kroger 673 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: three point two seconds. 674 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 3: Well, honestly worth it Kroger security. No, you don't want 675 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 3: to mess with them at all, but at least at 676 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 3: at least at Costco the area where you. 677 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 2: Don't mess with Joey from the oh No. 678 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 3: But at least at Costco you have a ton of 679 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 3: room to completely avoid that area because they're always there. 680 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 3: This is a tight little area where it's like you 681 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 3: really can't get around. It's like they're there, they're waiting 682 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 3: for you. Uh. 683 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: And the fundamental difference. Costco is the big box store. 684 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: Your local supermarket is your neighborhood place. And when you 685 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: take that away, well then what am I really going for? 686 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: You could argue, well, the prices are lower, and I 687 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: would argue that Kroger does an excellent job at pricing. 688 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: But if I'm inconvenience that I'm hassled. Not only are 689 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: you right, I'm sorry that happened to you. 690 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 3: Thank you. If you disagree with me, leave a comment below. 691 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 2: It's a podcast at a radio show. Where are they 692 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 2: going to leave the comment? 693 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 3: We don't need to get into all that, Kroger. 694 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 2: It's time to apologize the fingers Billy. Thank you. I mean, 695 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 2: he's right, He's right. That's all there is to it