WEBVTT - 2026 Oscar Nominations Discussion (feat. Nick)

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<v Speaker 1>The Frames per Second Podcast. Welcome to another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>the Prime Second Podcast. I'm help with the evening. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is Mike with me, I have Spike? What up?

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<v Speaker 1>I got Ken? Hello? And I can't even say special guests.

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<v Speaker 1>We just got Nick. What's up? Nick? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is how y'all tree family?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess so full disclosure, this was a last minute pivot.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna talk about the Oscar noms for that's what

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<v Speaker 2>they say, noms. I don't know if y'all do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not. Yeah, put y'all along, Bro, putting y'all along.

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<v Speaker 2>The Oscars will be aired on Sunday, March fifteenth at

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<v Speaker 2>seven pm. It will be hosted by Conan O'Brien and Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're and actually this is interesting. It's airing on ABC

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<v Speaker 2>and streaming on Hulu. I thought that was interesting. But

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna be talking about the nominations this year and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of giving our thoughts about these categories. Now, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna go through every category, just the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>I think are cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, we're not talking about who did the best music

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<v Speaker 1>because who cares? Bro, and the ones don't matter. Congrats

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<v Speaker 1>to you for doing music, but no, we're not. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>So the first one they got on the list is

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<v Speaker 2>Best Picture. And I'll tell you what they got here.

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<v Speaker 2>They got Pogonia F One, Frankenstein, ham Knett, Marty Supreme,

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<v Speaker 2>One Battle after another, The Secret Agent, Sentimental Value, Sinners.

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<v Speaker 1>And Train Dreams. So what y'all got for predictions? For

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<v Speaker 1>this one? I think is gonna win. Yeah, Okay. I

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<v Speaker 1>hate the.

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<v Speaker 3>Fact that they've extended how many Best Picture noms can

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<v Speaker 3>get because that's the.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell of categories. I think Best Picture.

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<v Speaker 3>Based off of the chatter, and I'm seeing it's between

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<v Speaker 3>senators and one bout out another. They're kind of give

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<v Speaker 3>it to Paul Thomas Anderson though, even though I think

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<v Speaker 3>Sinners should get it because it was like a what

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<v Speaker 3>the fuck kind of It felt like it felt like

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<v Speaker 3>it's the get Out of this Year, where it's just

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<v Speaker 3>like a movie that no one really thought was going

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<v Speaker 3>to do anything and then it just blew up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I disagree with y'a on that one.

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<v Speaker 4>I think people in that high expectations.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think it had like this high exp

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<v Speaker 2>not Oscar nomb That's what I mean expectations. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you say a movie that people didn't think we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do anything. I think that the second the trailer dropped,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the majority of film people were like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we got.

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<v Speaker 1>To go see this. This is gonna be amazing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whereas get Out.

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<v Speaker 2>If you remember uh Nick, when when the trailer for

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<v Speaker 2>get Out came out, there was like five of us

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<v Speaker 2>that were like, Oh, get Out's gonna be great.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone else was like this is gonna be stupid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I get you.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess I was just going off of the fact

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<v Speaker 3>of this is like Ryan Kouegler's first since like Fruitville,

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<v Speaker 3>it was like his first, Like I'm putting them like

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<v Speaker 3>this is my movie, like this is my creativity, Like

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<v Speaker 3>it was a risk because the way they talk about

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<v Speaker 3>like how you even did the deal and everything felt like

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<v Speaker 3>it was like this is a big risk for the

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<v Speaker 3>studio and it hit. But but I still think even

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<v Speaker 3>with all that being said, I think one batter after

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<v Speaker 3>another is gonna win.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see Centers taking it, but it'll probably be

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<v Speaker 2>one battle after another. I do wonder if the Academy

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be like, shit, we better give it

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<v Speaker 2>to them, because like, hey, it's gonna be one of

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<v Speaker 2>the other.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, it's like either Best Director or Best Picture

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<v Speaker 3>is going to want Like they're not going to give

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<v Speaker 3>both of them. Like I'll be shocked that like Sinners

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<v Speaker 3>wins both of those categories or one nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel you, I feel you, all right. It feels

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<v Speaker 1>like no, I was saying.

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<v Speaker 5>It feels like the momentum late has been with one

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<v Speaker 5>battle after another. I'm hopeful in thinking that somehow Centers

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<v Speaker 5>may pull it off, even if it's for the reasons

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<v Speaker 5>you said, Mike, to get a blast ball something.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they might even try to do a Marty

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<v Speaker 4>Supreme thing with all attraction that is, No, not that movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that movie ain't nowhere near either one of those

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<v Speaker 1>two movies. You know it's not.

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<v Speaker 4>I agree with you with that, the hype that has

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<v Speaker 4>been getting I wouldn't be shocked if they wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>give Timothy Shallow made his moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's get to that. So the next category is

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<v Speaker 2>performance by an actor in a leading role. We have

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<v Speaker 2>Timothy Shala made for Marty Supreme. We have Leo for

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<v Speaker 2>one Battle after another. We have Ethan Hawf for Blue Moon.

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<v Speaker 2>We got Michael b for Sinners, and we got Wagner

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<v Speaker 2>Mora for the secret Agent. So this is where I

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<v Speaker 2>think they'll give Timothy shallow ma his moment.

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<v Speaker 1>This agreed.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm shocked to say that, Mike, because that litt that's

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<v Speaker 3>the hardest. That's one of the most like hardest lists

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<v Speaker 3>that I've seen as far as like nominations, Like you

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<v Speaker 3>can pick a lot of those guys and make a case.

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<v Speaker 3>But I see Leo. I think it's usually with best actors,

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<v Speaker 3>like the last motherfucker you think, And I think Leo

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<v Speaker 3>will get this even though because like it's too much

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<v Speaker 3>like I think the Academy be like, we can't choose

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<v Speaker 3>sides between Timothy Shadowy.

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<v Speaker 1>Or or Michael B.

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan, So let's just give Leo another Oscar. He should

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<v Speaker 3>have got two by now anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I could see that thinking, Nick, But I also

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<v Speaker 4>think that they kind of reward you for the difficulty

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<v Speaker 4>most of the times, and when you get somebody that's

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<v Speaker 4>playing three roles in one film, it would be hypocritical

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<v Speaker 4>for them to ignore that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think people, I don't eve think people acknowledge

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<v Speaker 3>that he did three roles. They just see one, Nigga.

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<v Speaker 1>It's three.

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<v Speaker 4>Breaking out Vampire version like Beola Davis started this narrative

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<v Speaker 4>and said he played stack Smoke and the vampire version.

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<v Speaker 1>Knock it off.

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<v Speaker 4>Actors are saying this, how many Spike, how many said

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<v Speaker 4>it's called traction. Though everybody, all the Hollywood circles was saying, well,

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<v Speaker 4>he really did play three roles in this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>He played three times.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not played fire sack for about five minutes anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is between Timothy, Charla May and Leo

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<v Speaker 2>and I think they're gonna give it to Timothy Shallaman.

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<v Speaker 5>I think Timothy's gonna win this, and that's all they've

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<v Speaker 5>been talking about. And I think recency bias is going

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<v Speaker 5>to get him. Playing two roles not three should reward them.

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<v Speaker 5>But nah, I think it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Tim I'm just shocked that this may be the last

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<v Speaker 3>nomination Michael B.

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan gets as a Best Actor. Why you say that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I just don't see him being doing better than

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<v Speaker 1>this like this, Yeah, like what more can he do?

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<v Speaker 1>I know?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you can always you can make the case

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<v Speaker 3>like Denzel it took him a while to get his

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<v Speaker 3>and so so did other actors, black actors and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But I you like you like I think one of

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<v Speaker 3>y'all mentioned the difficulty of him. He played two characters

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<v Speaker 3>very well and it was one of the most highest

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<v Speaker 3>grossing movies domestically of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>You will give it if you give it to Timothy

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<v Speaker 1>Chalome over him, it's like, bro, what else?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>I like Michael B.

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<v Speaker 3>Jordan, but I don't think he's gonna do a better

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<v Speaker 3>performance moving forward than this.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably the movie of Mike be Jordan's career.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's probably the movie I thought.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought Creed Won was that, but I think this

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<v Speaker 3>is better. Like this shows that he's like a really

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<v Speaker 3>good actor.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not agree that this is will you Knock

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<v Speaker 2>It Off? I do not agree that this is the

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<v Speaker 2>movie of his career.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael B.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan's still very young. I could one hundred percent see

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<v Speaker 2>Michael B. Jordan doing something after this where it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh shit, I did not know he had that in him.

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<v Speaker 2>I think The Centers is an amazing film, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think at this point it's getting hyped to the point

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<v Speaker 2>where people are just like, there's nothing in the universe

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<v Speaker 2>that can ever be better than this movie, And I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that's the case at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that if you gave mine.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the reason he could lose has nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with his performance. He gave an amazing performance,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's up against someone that he is a Hollywood darling,

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<v Speaker 2>and Timothy Chalomay is a good looking, well spoken, charismatic

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<v Speaker 2>little white boy.

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<v Speaker 1>See I looking all right?

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<v Speaker 2>He's a Hollywood darling right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's all I'm saying. I do agree with y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael B.

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<v Speaker 2>Jordan, in my opinion, should get it because I think

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<v Speaker 2>he did an amazing job. I don't think Timothy Shallo

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<v Speaker 2>May did that amazing of a job where he shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>fortake Michael B.

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<v Speaker 5>And on top of that, Mike, they win both ways

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<v Speaker 5>because Timothy Chalomy is also Jewish, so they get another one.

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<v Speaker 5>Black guys and Jewish guy's like, hey, we can't lose

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<v Speaker 5>with this one.

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<v Speaker 2>I ain't touching that is anything wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>You got it? Can whatever you say. It's either way

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<v Speaker 1>a minority one, hey man.

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<v Speaker 2>The next category is interesting performance by an actor in

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<v Speaker 2>a supporting role. Actually, before I move on, did anybody

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<v Speaker 2>see Blue Moon with Ethan Hawk?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I just saw the trailer for it. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a period piece old times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, no, no, I can give a fun I'm cool

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<v Speaker 2>on that. Then all right, it's not like a Spike

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<v Speaker 2>ass movie though, all right, performance by an actor in

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<v Speaker 2>a supporting role. So for this one, we got Benicio

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<v Speaker 2>del Toro in one Battle after another. We got Jacob

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<v Speaker 2>Elordi and Frankenstein. We got my man, my motherfucking man,

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<v Speaker 2>Delroy Lindo in Sinners.

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<v Speaker 1>We also have.

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<v Speaker 2>Sean Penn for one Battle after another, and we got

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<v Speaker 2>Stelling scars Guard for sentimental value. And that's the only

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<v Speaker 2>one out of this whole list that I'm not familiar with.

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<v Speaker 2>But who do y'all think? Who do y'all think it's

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<v Speaker 2>this one?

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<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you if y'all this was Frankenstein that

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<v Speaker 3>good that he should have been nominated.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he did an amazing job. Yes, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he gonna win it.

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<v Speaker 3>Then his profiles begetting, his profile's be getting up there,

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<v Speaker 3>and he got this Valentine's Day movie with Margot Robbie

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<v Speaker 3>coming out that I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think is gonna be a hit. Jacob Belordi, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>from Euphoria, Nate Nate from You Nate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I see his profile getting like a lot more attention,

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<v Speaker 3>and usually like to your point, Mike. With these oscars,

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<v Speaker 3>they do try to at least capitalize either on like

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<v Speaker 3>somebody who has legacy and we haven't given him an award,

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<v Speaker 3>or someone who's up and coming so we can get

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<v Speaker 3>it out the way early. And I think he's one

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<v Speaker 3>in that, like the Timothy Shana may up and come in.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's give him it now so you don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>worry about it later. Even though I desperately want Delroy

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<v Speaker 3>to get his flowers while he's still here, I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's he should have got one. He should have got

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<v Speaker 3>a supporting oscar for the Five Bloods.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I agree, one hundred percent. He should have absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>got one for Five Bloods. But I think that if

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<v Speaker 2>if Jacoberlori wins for Frankistan, I think it'll be a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty big upset.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'll be del Roy.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're gonna give it to Benicio del Tour

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<v Speaker 4>or Seanpainn. I think del to Oh yeah, Sean Payn

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<v Speaker 4>could get it too, but I think Benicio del Toro

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<v Speaker 4>go win.

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<v Speaker 1>But between the two, which one did you enjoy the

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<v Speaker 1>character most in that movie?

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<v Speaker 4>I enjoyed, out of the whole list of del Roy

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<v Speaker 4>the most.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think Benice, uh Venice and Champagne. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Between them two.

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<v Speaker 4>Benicio, MM, I like, like, just be I'm sorry, I

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<v Speaker 4>totally overtalked you go ahead, and I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying I enjoy his character more.

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<v Speaker 2>M I think Sean Penn did did a bang up

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<v Speaker 2>job playing a white racist.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe. I believe every single bit of him.

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<v Speaker 3>So he and I feel like he had to get

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<v Speaker 3>into a certain character too, Like his mannerisms, the way

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<v Speaker 3>he did his hair, it was just like he lived

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<v Speaker 3>in that character. Yes, Benicio is just a cool motherfucker,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. Like, I mean not to

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<v Speaker 3>say he didn't act.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was just like he was. I mean, I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen him do that character. I feel like in other roles.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say the same thing. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen Benicio do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've not seen Sean Penn, who is very much the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite of that character.

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<v Speaker 1>I've not seen Sean Penn do that. So if anybody on.

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<v Speaker 2>This list beats out Delroy, I feel like I would

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<v Speaker 2>accept it from Sean Penn. Again, I did not see

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<v Speaker 2>sentimental value, so I don't know anything about that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I'm going with Sean Penn. Personally, I did George

0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:15.840
<v Speaker 6>del Roy. It would be cool to see Delroy win bute, chearampagne,

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<v Speaker 6>boughted it.

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<v Speaker 1>Man did he really did? He really did?

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<v Speaker 6>Like from the Walk from that that weird grunting and

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<v Speaker 6>like everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, he just was.

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<v Speaker 6>He just seemed uncomfortable, like, yeah, you would have thought

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<v Speaker 6>he was the start of the film. You would have

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<v Speaker 6>thought he was the star.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, I agree, I want del Roy, but I

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<v Speaker 2>would accept Sean Penn. All right, let's move on to

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<v Speaker 2>the next category. We have performance by an actress in

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<v Speaker 2>a leading role. We have uh Teana Taylor for the Rip,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have.

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<v Speaker 1>All because we just talked about it as well.

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<v Speaker 2>We got Jesse Buckley in Hamnett, which I have not seen.

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<v Speaker 2>If I had legs, I'd kick you. We got Kate

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<v Speaker 2>Hudson in Songs Sung Blue, Renate rihanns Fay for sentimental value,

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<v Speaker 2>and we got Emma Stone for Bogonia. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is a hard one because I've seen I've only

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<v Speaker 2>seen two of these films, and for both of those films,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the women gave an amazing performance.

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<v Speaker 1>So what say y'all, I'm.

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<v Speaker 6>Going with the stone. Uh Kate Kate Hudson was good

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<v Speaker 6>and sing song blue. She was really good in that.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if y'all seen that.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell now I'm gonna see that ship.

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<v Speaker 6>It's it's actually on TV right now. I think it's

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<v Speaker 6>on Prime or something like that. But yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 6>a screen under seen for me, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want to see this, but then when I

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<v Speaker 6>saw it, it's actually actually okay. But I definitely go

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<v Speaker 6>in the stone witha so here stone.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody else I ain't see. Yeah, I ain't even see.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen a majority of these. But the way

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<v Speaker 3>they're talking about handing it, I think that motherfucker gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's gonna do. It's go sweet whatever they say.

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<v Speaker 1>Hand that maybe the best movie of the year. Like damn,

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<v Speaker 1>Like people fuck with that movie for some reason. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a love story and people love love stories. Yeah, it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>people like that kind of shit. I haven't seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no desire. I did see If I have legs,

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<v Speaker 1>I kick you.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw that, like the movie like that, But I

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<v Speaker 2>think rose Burn always kills.

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<v Speaker 1>It and this was no different. I think she killed.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you say? I said, yeah, she was good.

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<v Speaker 6>I saw that one too, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for me personally, it would be it would be

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<v Speaker 2>between Rose Byrne and Emma Stone. Emma Stone is quickly

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<v Speaker 2>becoming the woman at this point. A couple more categories here.

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<v Speaker 2>We got performance by an actress in a supporting role.

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<v Speaker 2>We have l Fanning. I guess i'ma have to see

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<v Speaker 2>sentimental value because God damn its in everything. Uh. We

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<v Speaker 2>got inga IBB's daughter Lilius in sentimental value. We got

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<v Speaker 2>Amy Madigan for Weapons one me Masoku for Sinners. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure who that is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the Room No, no, no, that's the Voodoo, the woman

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<v Speaker 3>from the Poul Wolverine, the black Woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, okay. And then now this is not a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Tianna Taylor one battle after another. So who's taking this one, y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely not. She wanted to go to go for them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how.

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<v Speaker 4>They said. It's usually a precursor for who's gonna win.

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<v Speaker 4>She's gonna win, She's not gonna I think they're gonna give.

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<v Speaker 1>It to I think they're gonna I think it's between.

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<v Speaker 3>The Woman from Sinners and Uh, me, Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 3>with me. I think I forgot who else you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>But I think it's it's it's a two women race,

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<v Speaker 3>and that I think the nominations most I hate. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like when people are nominated twice in a category

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<v Speaker 3>for the same movie, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of cancels them out.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it's gonna be I'll put my stock

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<v Speaker 3>on the woman from Sinners, who is.

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<v Speaker 1>The person from Weapons that the Yeah, she needs to win.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're not gonna keep the most memorable performance.

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<v Speaker 7>So horror movies are still very, very hard to win

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<v Speaker 7>stuff like this, So I don't I don't see her winning.

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<v Speaker 1>But she did she like? Did you like her performance?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought she was great.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought she was fucking great. But was it an

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<v Speaker 2>Oscar worthy performance? That's what I was saying, Like it

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<v Speaker 2>was a really good movie.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, are they doing like a.

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<v Speaker 1>I wish they wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't because it always we don't need it. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I wish Hollywood would get in the habit of one

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<v Speaker 2>and done films. Not everything needs to be a franchise.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of times when you start making things franchises,

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<v Speaker 2>it turns into a fucking joke, like, why do we.

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<v Speaker 1>Need a backstory for Gladys? She was a wing?

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<v Speaker 6>Random?

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<v Speaker 1>It was random though, That's what made it so good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, just leave it alone.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like people that still my mom still wants a

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<v Speaker 2>goddamn sequel to get out and I'm like, no.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need it. It's perfect as a one and

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<v Speaker 1>done film. But what do I know?

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<v Speaker 1>Now, let's get back to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, this is an interesting one. We're gonna go ahead

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<v Speaker 2>and skip all the way down. Jalen's gonna get mad.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really fel like we need to talk about

0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:55.040
<v Speaker 2>animated films and we didn't. I think Ken's probably the

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<v Speaker 2>only one that saw half of this shit. Maybe Nick,

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<v Speaker 2>But let's go ahead and jump down to directing.

0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Achievement.

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<v Speaker 2>In directing, we have Chloe Zau for Hamnet. Now that's

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<v Speaker 2>the only reason I want to see the movie because

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize she did it.

0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I think Steven Spielberg produced it.

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<v Speaker 3>And she did it like it's it's like a yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a again.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to watch it now because it's getting

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<v Speaker 1>gassed up.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'll go ahead and watch it just because, I mean,

0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I thought Past Lives was fucking brilliant, so I wouldn't

0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:25.720
<v Speaker 2>mind seeing that. But so, yeah, So we got Chloe

0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Zoo for Hamnet, we got Josh Safti for Marty Supreme.

0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:33.560
<v Speaker 2>We got Paul Thomas Anderson for One Battle after another.

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<v Speaker 2>We got Joaquin Treer for Sentimental Value. We got Ryan

0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Krugler for Sinners. So this is this is a stacked

0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:45.920
<v Speaker 2>lineup outside of Jhein, who I just don't know. Maybe

0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:48.560
<v Speaker 2>he's amazing. Maybe Ciniment of Value is incredible. I haven't

0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.080
<v Speaker 2>seen it, but this is a stacked This is a

0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:54.040
<v Speaker 2>stacked lineup, y'all. So who you think is gonna take it?

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<v Speaker 3>I found out that in one hundred years there hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>been a black director who won this award. YEP, if

0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:07.960
<v Speaker 3>they overskip ever, it's like getting the last Year and

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<v Speaker 3>I guess since the Oscars, if they over skip Ryan

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<v Speaker 3>Coogler for Paul Thomas Anderson because I think it's just

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<v Speaker 3>between those two. As much as I think Chloe's Au

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<v Speaker 3>is a great director and it's getting a lot of hype,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like it's just it's between Paul Thomas Anderson

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<v Speaker 3>and Ryan Coogler. I think Ryan Kueger has to win

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<v Speaker 3>this because it's his baby.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote directed it.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you can say the same thing about Pta,

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<v Speaker 3>but this was much a much more gamble like One

0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:41.240
<v Speaker 3>About after Another is one of PTA's best films. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not his best film. You could argue Centers is Ryan

0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Coogler's best because like everything else is like based off

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<v Speaker 3>comic books and other stuff, like, Yeah, this has to

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<v Speaker 3>be him.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody disagree with that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>I think there were ever a time for a black

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<v Speaker 4>director to win one, it would be with this film

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<v Speaker 4>and Ryan Coogler, with his resume like that, this is

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<v Speaker 4>the time. Even if it's they feel like they giving

0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.960
<v Speaker 4>it to him, just because I still feel like he's

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<v Speaker 4>with his body of work in this movie, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Time and he should win it. How many years it's been,

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Honey.

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<v Speaker 3>What I'm saying this and this is the I think

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<v Speaker 3>this is the hundredth anniversary of the Oscars. This is

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<v Speaker 3>the last time it's gonna be on ABC too. It's

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<v Speaker 3>going to YouTube after this if they go one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and one years. Like to me, it's like, bro, fuck

0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 3>the Oscars. They don't give a fuck about none of

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<v Speaker 3>the ship be great. What more can you ask the

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<v Speaker 3>black director to due to win an oscar in this.

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<v Speaker 5>Mm hmmm Yeah. The conversation around around one battle after another,

0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:58.560
<v Speaker 5>which is sort of crazy to me. The amount of

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<v Speaker 5>super hype that movie is. I don't understand it, you know.

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<v Speaker 9>I think I think it's gonna be one hundred and

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<v Speaker 9>one year, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>They can take out the black spots out. If Centers

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't win anything, it has to win Best Director.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of agree with that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the that's the that's the award for

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<v Speaker 2>this movie to win. If it does not win for

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<v Speaker 2>Best Director, then I think Hollywood is going to burn hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Not obviously, not literally, but I think that are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be so upset that they're gonna be like, Nope,

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 2>We're not even fucking with Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>They're never gonna beat the racist label.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I just don't see anything other than trouble if

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<v Speaker 2>they don't give it to right Coogler. And it's not

0:24:01.400 --> 0:24:04.800
<v Speaker 2>even like I'm saying he deserves a Participation Trophy or

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<v Speaker 2>a DEI Award, like he fucking deserves it. The way

0:24:09.720 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 2>that movie was directed was incredible. And like they said,

0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Paul Thomas Anderson has been around, He's got other movies.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Ryan Cougler's baby. I think Hollywood would be

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<v Speaker 2>tripping if they didn't give it to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Going against the grain. Ain't saying nothing. Who that is?

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<v Speaker 6>Bro?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she did Past Lives. Yeah, but I ain't really

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<v Speaker 1>care for Past Lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh me and Ay liked it, That's what I'm thinking. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be confusing the rights sometimes. All right, so let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's drop down because I don't know that y'all watched

0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:57.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot of documentaries for last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. Film editing is not that interesting right here?

0:25:03.200 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 1>What wait?

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<v Speaker 2>Is not?

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 1>It is interesting? Go ahead, get you let Rod talk

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 1>about it. Okay, the nominations to see if you even

0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>see these.

0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Movies film editing, because everybody here is so fascinated by editing. Okay,

0:25:18.960 --> 0:25:23.560
<v Speaker 2>advancement and film editing. Rod, we got f one, We

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 2>got Marty Supreme. We got one battle after another, we

0:25:27.400 --> 0:25:30.760
<v Speaker 2>got sentimental value again, and we got sinners.

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:34.520
<v Speaker 1>So what you what you got value? I know this

0:25:34.560 --> 0:25:35.879
<v Speaker 1>movie apparently.

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<v Speaker 3>One has to win that. If you saw it in

0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 3>the theater rock Yeah, I saw it in the theater.

0:25:41.240 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that that sound quality was crazy, So I was down.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a different thing, Nick, that's on here too. Well.

0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:48.480
<v Speaker 3>I like the way they were able to chop it

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:50.439
<v Speaker 3>up to like to make you feel like you were

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:52.040
<v Speaker 3>in the car like with them.

0:25:52.119 --> 0:25:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the editing was like really.

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<v Speaker 6>Editing was really good.

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, took a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 10>Get on the other side of the room and do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like a kid when I was at the theater. Kid,

0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:32.160
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I was looking around some bull ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So Nick says, f one, anybody else got a

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:39.280
<v Speaker 2>different one?

0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I said that one too, that was okay. I said, yeah, damn,

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I know I said at first, I'm one.

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 4>I didn't say more than Supreme might have something to

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:57.160
<v Speaker 4>say about that.

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<v Speaker 1>No one from that movie.

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:05.479
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they gonna give that movie an award if

0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 4>it ain't this one, it's gonna be Best Pictures.

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 2>So that movie is getting on the Wars. I agree

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 2>with Spike, it's gonna get something. Yeah, I guess it

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 2>was edited well, but you know, I don't really see

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:20.159
<v Speaker 2>centers on that.

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:21.200
<v Speaker 1>On that list.

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<v Speaker 6>Editor Sentner's has some good editing moments too.

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess outside of your average filmmaker person, just

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 2>regular folks, I don't. I don't know how many of

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 2>us noticed how good the editing was. I did notice

0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 2>how good the editing was for Martiny Supreme, even though

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 2>I didn't like the movie that much. And one battle

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:43.520
<v Speaker 2>after another, honestly, cha.

0:27:44.359 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Amazing movie scenes. Yes last year. Yeah, I agree. I agree.

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 2>So there's a bunch of international films, but none of us.

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:56.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure none of us saw these. A couple of

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:58.199
<v Speaker 2>these were on my list, so I'll run through them

0:27:58.240 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 2>real quick.

0:27:59.359 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:03.800
<v Speaker 2>The Seek Agent, which is a Brazilian film. I've heard

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 2>amazing things about that movie. It Was Just an Accident,

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:10.840
<v Speaker 2>which is a French film. Sentimental Value Again, which apparently

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 2>is a Norwegian film, surat from Spain. I can't remember

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 2>who told me. I think it might have been Sadistic

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 2>that actually told me that I need to see this movie,

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 2>and I have not watched it yet, so sadistic if

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:24.359
<v Speaker 2>you're listening, I apologize. I will get to it. And

0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:29.199
<v Speaker 2>the voice of hind Rajab which is from Tunisia. So

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 2>congrats to all of them. A couple more here, let's

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 2>talk about okay, last two adapted screenplay and original screenplay.

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 2>So for writing adapted screenplay, we have Bogonia, we have Frankenstein,

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:58.000
<v Speaker 2>we got Hamnett, we got one Battle after another, and

0:28:58.040 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 2>we got Train Dreams. I didn't see Trained dream yet either,

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:10.960
<v Speaker 2>but I heard it was really good.

0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Would you never see a movie cos not if it

0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 1>was written by like Kyler Perry or.

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 4>Like, I'm not going to Perry Trained Dreams my nightmare that.

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be like human Centipede. I'm not trying to

0:29:34.320 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 2>see that in the at home. I guess I didn't

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:45.560
<v Speaker 2>think about I don't think I ever really watched this

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.480
<v Speaker 2>category or even really think that hard about this category.

0:29:49.040 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 2>But but yeah, screenplay itself, like what are y'all what

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 2>do y'all got for this? Denominations again, Frankenstein, Hamnett, one

0:29:59.320 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 2>battle after a another, and Train Dreams.

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>I think I think is going to get that just

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:07.000
<v Speaker 1>because it's like Shakespeare.

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 3>The Hollywood likes to pat itself on the back, and

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 3>that's one of the movies that's gonna be like, Okay,

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 3>this is old to that.

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm.

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 5>I wish i'd seen Hamnet. But I could make an

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:21.640
<v Speaker 5>argument for Frankenstein.

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 2>I was about to say that Ken I would not

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 2>be surprised if Frankenstein got this one at all.

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 4>I haven't seen a lot of the one that I

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 4>have seen, but I feel like it was a great

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 4>original screenplay.

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>No, it's it's adapted. It's adapted. Yeah, I believe was

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 1>a book.

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, So I could see Frankenstein winning it just

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 2>because of what they did with the story for Frankenstein.

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:52.560
<v Speaker 2>But I can also see Pagonia winning honestly, So I

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 2>So for the last one, the last one we want

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 2>to talk about today, this is writing original screenplay, and

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 2>then I have one more question to ask y'all before

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 2>we wrap up. But original screenplay Blue Moon, which I

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:10.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't see. It was just an accident which I did

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:15.560
<v Speaker 2>not see. Marty supreme sentimental value I haven't seen. And

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:17.440
<v Speaker 2>sinners what.

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Y'all got for this? What do you say screenplay?

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Probably sentimental value wins this one. Nah, But I'm just

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 3>saying they're not going they're not gonna give Sences how

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:42.200
<v Speaker 3>much their animated film to ship. I think it's gonna

0:31:42.200 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 3>get the Original Screenplay based on everybody talks about that,

0:31:45.120 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 3>or I would love to see Sinners get it as well. Yes,

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 3>but I think that again, the Academy ain't gonna give

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:55.480
<v Speaker 3>them everything. They're going like, all right, you're either gonna

0:31:55.480 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 3>get Best Director of Screenplay, which one you want?

0:31:57.520 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>I think I think it deserves both of those.

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I think it deserves Best Director and Best Best Original

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Screenplay because out of all of these movies, I think Sinners,

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I didn't see the other one, so I'm

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 2>talking out of my ass, but so I guess it's

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 2>between that and Marty Supreme. I think Sinners was a

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:17.640
<v Speaker 2>much more daring screenplay, especially making the whole first hour

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 2>of a film, this old school black drama and then

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 2>in a heartbeat flipping into a B a B horror movie.

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 2>That's not that's not easy to pull off, especially when

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 2>you're I know people are listening like, oh, you're at

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 2>least talking a bad race, like everything to be a

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:38.960
<v Speaker 2>bad race.

0:32:39.000 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Well it is when you're a black filmmaker.

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 2>I think doing something that daring is a lot harder

0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 2>than say, if fucking you know James Cameron or Quentin

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Tarantino did it, you know.

0:32:52.640 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>So I think I think Sinators deserves this too, and

0:32:55.600 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 1>for having.

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:58.400
<v Speaker 3>A music video in the middle of all that too,

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't know, maybe people people.

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 1>May not like that scene, but like I ain't say nothing.

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, like, but that's that's sup that, Like

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 3>no one's ever gonna really do that in a movie, like,

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 3>especially like a black director having a gut to be

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:12.560
<v Speaker 3>like fuck it, if I'm gonna throw everything against the wall,

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm throwing everything against the wall.

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, all right, Well that's my take. Anybody got

0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>anything different?

0:33:21.840 --> 0:33:25.479
<v Speaker 4>I agree with you Sinners. The there that it took well,

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 4>it's almost like two different movies. And then to ask

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 4>Michael B. Jordan to play that role like it's that

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 4>that definitely wins.

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 1>It for me. Agree, one hundred agree, yep.

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:40.600
<v Speaker 2>So my last question before we wrap up is anything missing?

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 2>And I mean from any of the categories, Do y'all

0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 2>have anything missing? Or are y'all surprised that that there's

0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:51.280
<v Speaker 2>any film, any actor whatever that did not make the list.

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm surprised Karate Kids Legends. Then there.

0:33:59.240 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>You gotta watch.

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, I'm going to watch the movie.

0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:11.360
<v Speaker 6>I think, what's the movie did we review where the

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 6>girl took the serum and turned into a younger girl?

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 1>That was last year? That was last year.

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:22.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that she was nominated. Uh, yeah, she was nominated

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 3>last year. She should have worked about her substance.

0:34:25.400 --> 0:34:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Su Okay, that sounded like our killing movie. He wrote

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 1>that that's the ideal movie. Actually he was donated for

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 1>best anyway.

0:34:48.320 --> 0:34:50.880
<v Speaker 6>And what I guess for me, like, at what point

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:56.120
<v Speaker 6>will superhero movie start getting nominated for things?

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Never? So I think I don't. I don't.

0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't agree all the way would never, But I

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:04.759
<v Speaker 2>do think it's going to be a long time because

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 2>it took this long for horror movies to even start

0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 2>getting included in the conversation. I think superhero movies are

0:35:10.719 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 2>taken less seriously than horror movies right now. I think

0:35:13.760 --> 0:35:19.279
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Peele came along, Eggers came along, Buddy that did

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Hereditary whose name I can't think of right now, Arid Astor,

0:35:24.360 --> 0:35:27.000
<v Speaker 2>those guys came along and they changed the perception of

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 2>what horror movies are and can be that has not

0:35:30.400 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 2>happened yet for superhero movies.

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:35.520
<v Speaker 1>I feel like Thunderboats.

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:39.320
<v Speaker 6>I feel like Thunderboats will hound every everybody's list this year,

0:35:39.840 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 6>and not not for the superhero aspect, but just for

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:46.520
<v Speaker 6>the overall like dealing with depression and things like that.

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I felt like, if.

0:35:47.800 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 6>It was a time, it should have been a movie

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:54.920
<v Speaker 6>like that, you know, So that is still disappointing that,

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 6>you know, because they do what's her name? She did

0:35:57.920 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 6>a good job in that movie, the one that plays

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 6>out Florence put Florence Pugh. Yeah, I mean she's still

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:06.880
<v Speaker 6>Florence Pugh, which she gets nominated for other shit, Like

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 6>I don't understand like why she wouldn't get nominated, you know,

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:11.720
<v Speaker 6>for this for anything.

0:36:12.200 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 3>I think the subject matter is like the biggest thing

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 3>about it, because yep, people are gonna be like you

0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:24.960
<v Speaker 3>need to tell me that. Like I get why it's

0:36:25.000 --> 0:36:27.320
<v Speaker 3>a good movie, but it's like for how the Oscars

0:36:27.360 --> 0:36:30.520
<v Speaker 3>considered like what should get awards, it's like the subject matters.

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 3>It's somewhat like grounded in reality or realism or some

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:38.880
<v Speaker 3>type of issue or ideology that people can rub around,

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:42.040
<v Speaker 3>not to say, like mental health isn't that, but mental

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 3>health is still kind of even new to even talk about.

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:45.920
<v Speaker 1>In certain ways in films.

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 3>But doing it in a superhero movie, to me, if

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:51.239
<v Speaker 3>it was going to get nominated, it should have been

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 3>like endgame, just like how they did like Lord of

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 3>the Rings, where it's like this is this was an

0:36:56.440 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 3>achievement for Hollywood to tell a ten year story, you know.

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 6>So yeah, I just don't understand it because like you

0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 6>got movies like bogonya right, which is like about aliens

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:09.399
<v Speaker 6>and shit, I mean, and technically superhero movies is about

0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:12.720
<v Speaker 6>aliens and all types of shit. So I just don't understand,

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 6>like it's not even in discussion, like like, and these

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 6>movies make so much money for uh, for these people.

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:24.680
<v Speaker 1>But if you talk to film snobs and you know this, Rod,

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 1>if you talk to certain film knobs.

0:37:27.400 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 2>And you start talking this type of shit, they're gonna

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 2>dismiss you immediately. They're gonna be like, are you fucking serious?

0:37:32.800 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 2>If you go around certain circles, especially the circles I've

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 2>been around, if you're like, because I've gotten those looks,

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, as pretentious of an asshole as I am,

0:37:42.400 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 2>people are always surprised when I'm like no, like Endgame

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:49.719
<v Speaker 2>is fucking dope, you know what I mean.

0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 1>I liked Superman.

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:54.840
<v Speaker 2>They're like what and it's like, yeah, those are good movies,

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 2>but the Academy doesn't take those kinds of movies seriously.

0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, I know they don't. I was just saying,

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 6>and that's why I asked the questions about.

0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:06.760
<v Speaker 3>The Yeah, maybe maybe depend on how Doomsday goes.

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 9>I don't know.

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but I think at this point maybe

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 3>the peak because to me, like Endgame would have like

0:38:15.080 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 3>also let Hollywood talk about like the peak of superhero

0:38:18.600 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 3>movies and kind of capture that moment in time. But

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<v Speaker 3>now it's just kind of like if you're not even

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<v Speaker 3>nominated Endgame, I don't know what else, like what else

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<v Speaker 3>coming afterwards will even be get up to that level

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<v Speaker 3>to where it's like, oh, this should have been nominated.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Jen put the perfect comment in the in the text,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why his punk ass needs to be on

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<v Speaker 2>these episodes. But he just said, talking to talking to

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<v Speaker 2>to film nerds and film snobs about Marvel films, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like trying to talk to hip hop heads about Drake.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not going to take you seriously like that you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking to some motherfucker and Tims that's from New York

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<v Speaker 2>that listens to nothing but WU and you're like, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>Drake is actually a really good rapper.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be exited from the conversation. They're like, all right, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same thing with Marvel films, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm with you, Rod, it's not fair and it

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<v Speaker 2>should change at some point, but Nick is onto something.

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<v Speaker 2>If Doomsday does something different, maybe, but I don't see

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<v Speaker 2>Doomsday changing the perception either. It's Robert Downey Junior dressed

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<v Speaker 2>up like Doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>Doom, you know what I mean. It's still Spider Man,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's nah nah.

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<v Speaker 2>If it was gonna happen, it would have happened with Thunderbolts,

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<v Speaker 2>or it would have happened with Logan.

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<v Speaker 1>But h but I guess we'll see. We'll see. So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll be.

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<v Speaker 2>Tuning in for the show and hopefully we'll get Nick

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<v Speaker 2>back to do a recap of how the actual awards went.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not till March. We got plenty of time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not I thought they usually had it in February.

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<v Speaker 1>They waited till March. Well, I thought war shows.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought all the war shows because you know that

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<v Speaker 3>to be trying to cram all this stuff in Black

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<v Speaker 3>history so we can forget that it is Black history.

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<v Speaker 1>One. We got the super Bowl All Star Weekend and

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<v Speaker 1>the Grammy's and ship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know, but it's definitely in March with

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<v Speaker 2>Colonel O'Brien, so we'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Be tuning in. We'll definitely come back and get our

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts about how things went.

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<v Speaker 2>And let us know if y'all know some movies that

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<v Speaker 2>got left out and do we all.

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<v Speaker 1>Need to see fucking tentamental value? Are we missing out?

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<v Speaker 1>Let us know? And should Spike review twenty eight years later?

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<v Speaker 2>Bone Temple? Let us know, Bone Temple. I forgot to

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<v Speaker 2>do it for Spike review the Bone Temple. Should Spike

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<v Speaker 2>review the Bone in Bone Temple?

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<v Speaker 1>Let us know and we will see y'all next. We're

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<v Speaker 1>all peace