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Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast. Welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 1: the Prime Second Podcast. I'm help with the evening. My

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Speaker 1: name is Mike with me, I have Spike? What up?

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Speaker 1: I got Ken? Hello? And I can't even say special guests.

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Speaker 1: We just got Nick. What's up? Nick? What's going on?

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Speaker 1: I know this is how y'all tree family?

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Speaker 2: I guess so full disclosure, this was a last minute pivot.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about the Oscar noms for that's what

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Speaker 2: they say, noms. I don't know if y'all do that.

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Speaker 1: I did not. Yeah, put y'all along, Bro, putting y'all along.

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Speaker 2: The Oscars will be aired on Sunday, March fifteenth at

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Speaker 2: seven pm. It will be hosted by Conan O'Brien and Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're and actually this is interesting. It's airing on ABC

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Speaker 2: and streaming on Hulu. I thought that was interesting. But

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Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking about the nominations this year and

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Speaker 2: kind of giving our thoughts about these categories. Now, I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna go through every category, just the ones that

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Speaker 2: I think are cool.

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Speaker 1: Like, we're not talking about who did the best music

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Speaker 1: because who cares? Bro, and the ones don't matter. Congrats

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Speaker 1: to you for doing music, but no, we're not. We're

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Speaker 1: not doing this.

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Speaker 2: So the first one they got on the list is

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Speaker 2: Best Picture. And I'll tell you what they got here.

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Speaker 2: They got Pogonia F One, Frankenstein, ham Knett, Marty Supreme,

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Speaker 2: One Battle after another, The Secret Agent, Sentimental Value, Sinners.

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Speaker 1: And Train Dreams. So what y'all got for predictions? For

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Speaker 1: this one? I think is gonna win. Yeah, Okay. I

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Speaker 1: hate the.

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Speaker 3: Fact that they've extended how many Best Picture noms can

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Speaker 3: get because that's the.

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Speaker 1: Hell of categories. I think Best Picture.

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Speaker 3: Based off of the chatter, and I'm seeing it's between

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Speaker 3: senators and one bout out another. They're kind of give

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Speaker 3: it to Paul Thomas Anderson though, even though I think

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Speaker 3: Sinners should get it because it was like a what

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Speaker 3: the fuck kind of It felt like it felt like

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Speaker 3: it's the get Out of this Year, where it's just

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Speaker 3: like a movie that no one really thought was going

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Speaker 3: to do anything and then it just blew up.

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Speaker 1: Oh I disagree with y'a on that one.

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Speaker 4: I think people in that high expectations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it had like this high exp

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Speaker 2: not Oscar nomb That's what I mean expectations. But when

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Speaker 2: you say a movie that people didn't think we're going

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Speaker 2: to do anything. I think that the second the trailer dropped,

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Speaker 2: I think the majority of film people were like, Oh,

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Speaker 2: we got.

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Speaker 1: To go see this. This is gonna be amazing, you know,

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Speaker 1: whereas get Out.

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Speaker 2: If you remember uh Nick, when when the trailer for

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Speaker 2: get Out came out, there was like five of us

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Speaker 2: that were like, Oh, get Out's gonna be great.

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Speaker 1: Everyone else was like this is gonna be stupid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get you.

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Speaker 3: I guess I was just going off of the fact

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Speaker 3: of this is like Ryan Kouegler's first since like Fruitville,

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Speaker 3: it was like his first, Like I'm putting them like

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Speaker 3: this is my movie, like this is my creativity, Like

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Speaker 3: it was a risk because the way they talk about

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Speaker 3: like how you even did the deal and everything felt like

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Speaker 3: it was like this is a big risk for the

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Speaker 3: studio and it hit. But but I still think even

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Speaker 3: with all that being said, I think one batter after

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Speaker 2: I can see Centers taking it, but it'll probably be

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Speaker 2: one battle after another. I do wonder if the Academy

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Speaker 2: is going to be like, shit, we better give it

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Speaker 3: To me, it's like either Best Director or Best Picture

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Speaker 3: is going to want Like they're not going to give

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Speaker 3: both of them. Like I'll be shocked that like Sinners

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Speaker 1: I feel you, I feel you, all right. It feels

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Speaker 1: like no, I was saying.

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Speaker 5: It feels like the momentum late has been with one

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Speaker 5: battle after another. I'm hopeful in thinking that somehow Centers

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Speaker 5: you said, Mike, to get a blast ball something.

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Speaker 4: I think they might even try to do a Marty

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Speaker 4: Supreme thing with all attraction that is, No, not that movie.

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Speaker 1: Is that movie ain't nowhere near either one of those

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Speaker 4: I agree with you with that, the hype that has

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Speaker 4: give Timothy Shallow made his moment.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's get to that. So the next category is

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Speaker 2: performance by an actor in a leading role. We have

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Speaker 2: Timothy Shala made for Marty Supreme. We have Leo for

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Speaker 2: one Battle after another. We have Ethan Hawf for Blue Moon.

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Speaker 2: We got Michael b for Sinners, and we got Wagner

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Speaker 2: think they'll give Timothy shallow ma his moment.

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Speaker 1: This agreed.

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Speaker 3: I'm shocked to say that, Mike, because that litt that's

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Speaker 3: the hardest. That's one of the most like hardest lists

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Speaker 3: that I've seen as far as like nominations, Like you

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Speaker 3: can pick a lot of those guys and make a case.

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Speaker 3: But I see Leo. I think it's usually with best actors,

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Speaker 3: like the last motherfucker you think, And I think Leo

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Speaker 3: will get this even though because like it's too much

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Speaker 3: like I think the Academy be like, we can't choose

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Speaker 3: sides between Timothy Shadowy.

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Speaker 1: Or or Michael B.

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Speaker 3: Jordan, So let's just give Leo another Oscar. He should

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Speaker 3: have got two by now anyway.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I could see that thinking, Nick, But I also

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Speaker 4: think that they kind of reward you for the difficulty

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Speaker 4: most of the times, and when you get somebody that's

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Speaker 4: playing three roles in one film, it would be hypocritical

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Speaker 4: for them to ignore that.

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Speaker 3: I don't think people, I don't eve think people acknowledge

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Speaker 3: that he did three roles. They just see one, Nigga.

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Speaker 1: It's three.

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Speaker 4: Breaking out Vampire version like Beola Davis started this narrative

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Speaker 4: and said he played stack Smoke and the vampire version.

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Speaker 1: Knock it off.

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Speaker 4: Actors are saying this, how many Spike, how many said

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Speaker 4: it's called traction. Though everybody, all the Hollywood circles was saying, well,

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Speaker 4: he really did play three roles in this movie.

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Speaker 1: He played three times.

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Speaker 3: He's not played fire sack for about five minutes anything.

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Speaker 2: I think this is between Timothy, Charla May and Leo

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Speaker 2: and I think they're gonna give it to Timothy Shallaman.

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Speaker 5: I think Timothy's gonna win this, and that's all they've

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Speaker 5: been talking about. And I think recency bias is going

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Speaker 5: to get him. Playing two roles not three should reward them.

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Speaker 5: But nah, I think it's going to be.

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Speaker 3: Tim I'm just shocked that this may be the last

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Speaker 1: Jordan gets as a Best Actor. Why you say that?

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Speaker 1: Because I just don't see him being doing better than

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Speaker 1: this like this, Yeah, like what more can he do?

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Speaker 1: I know?

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can always you can make the case

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Speaker 3: and so so did other actors, black actors and stuff.

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Speaker 3: But I you like you like I think one of

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Speaker 3: y'all mentioned the difficulty of him. He played two characters

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Speaker 3: very well and it was one of the most highest

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Speaker 1: You will give it if you give it to Timothy

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Speaker 1: Chalome over him, it's like, bro, what else?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: I like Michael B.

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Speaker 3: Jordan, but I don't think he's gonna do a better

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Speaker 3: performance moving forward than this.

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Speaker 4: Probably the movie of Mike be Jordan's career.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably the movie I thought.

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Speaker 3: I thought Creed Won was that, but I think this

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Speaker 3: is better. Like this shows that he's like a really

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Speaker 3: good actor.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 2: I do not agree that this is will you Knock

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Speaker 2: It Off? I do not agree that this is the

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Speaker 1: Michael B.

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Speaker 2: Jordan's still very young. I could one hundred percent see

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Speaker 2: Michael B. Jordan doing something after this where it's like,

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Speaker 2: oh shit, I did not know he had that in him.

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Speaker 2: I think The Centers is an amazing film, but I

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Speaker 2: think at this point it's getting hyped to the point

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Speaker 2: don't think that's the case at all.

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Speaker 1: I do think that if you gave mine.

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Speaker 2: I think that the reason he could lose has nothing

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Speaker 2: to do with his performance. He gave an amazing performance,

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Speaker 2: but he's up against someone that he is a Hollywood darling,

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Speaker 2: and Timothy Chalomay is a good looking, well spoken, charismatic

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Speaker 1: See I looking all right?

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Speaker 2: He's a Hollywood darling right now.

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Speaker 1: And that's all I'm saying. I do agree with y'all.

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Speaker 2: Jordan, in my opinion, should get it because I think

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Speaker 2: he did an amazing job. I don't think Timothy Shallo

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Speaker 5: And on top of that, Mike, they win both ways

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Speaker 5: because Timothy Chalomy is also Jewish, so they get another one.

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Speaker 5: Black guys and Jewish guy's like, hey, we can't lose

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Speaker 2: I ain't touching that is anything wrong?

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Speaker 1: You got it? Can whatever you say. It's either way

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Speaker 1: a minority one, hey man.

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Speaker 2: The next category is interesting performance by an actor in

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Speaker 2: a supporting role. Actually, before I move on, did anybody

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Speaker 2: see Blue Moon with Ethan Hawk?

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Speaker 1: Because I just saw the trailer for it. It's like

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Speaker 1: a period piece old times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, no, no, I can give a fun I'm cool

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Speaker 2: on that. Then all right, it's not like a Spike

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Speaker 2: del Toro in one Battle after another. We got Jacob

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Speaker 2: Sean Penn for one Battle after another, and we got

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Speaker 2: Stelling scars Guard for sentimental value. And that's the only

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Speaker 2: one out of this whole list that I'm not familiar with.

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Speaker 2: But who do y'all think? Who do y'all think it's

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you if y'all this was Frankenstein that

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Speaker 3: good that he should have been nominated.

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Speaker 1: I think he did an amazing job. Yes, I think

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Speaker 1: he gonna win it.

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Speaker 3: Then his profiles begetting, his profile's be getting up there,

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Speaker 3: and he got this Valentine's Day movie with Margot Robbie

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Speaker 1: Think is gonna be a hit. Jacob Belordi, the guy

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I see his profile getting like a lot more attention,

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Speaker 3: and usually like to your point, Mike. With these oscars,

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Speaker 3: in that, like the Timothy Shana may up and come in.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay. And then now this is not a joke.

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Speaker 1: The person from Weapons that the Yeah, she needs to win.

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Speaker 7: So horror movies are still very, very hard to win

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Speaker 1: I thought she was great.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, are they doing like a.

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Speaker 1: It was random though, That's what made it so good.

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Speaker 2: It's like people that still my mom still wants a

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Speaker 1: Now, let's get back to the show.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is an interesting one. We're gonna go ahead

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Speaker 3: I found out that in one hundred years there hasn't

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Speaker 4: I think there were ever a time for a black

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Speaker 3: doesn't win anything, it has to win Best Director.

442
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: I kind of agree with that one.

443
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 2: I think that's the that's the that's the award for

444
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 2: this movie to win. If it does not win for

445
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 2: Best Director, then I think Hollywood is going to burn hmm.

446
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 2: Not obviously, not literally, but I think that are going

447
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 2: to be so upset that they're gonna be like, Nope,

448
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 2: We're not even fucking with Hollywood.

449
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,879
Speaker 1: They're never gonna beat the racist label.

450
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: Like, I just don't see anything other than trouble if

451
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 2: they don't give it to right Coogler. And it's not

452
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 2: even like I'm saying he deserves a Participation Trophy or

453
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 2: a DEI Award, like he fucking deserves it. The way

454
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 2: that movie was directed was incredible. And like they said,

455
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 2: Paul Thomas Anderson has been around, He's got other movies.

456
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: This is Ryan Cougler's baby. I think Hollywood would be

457
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 2: tripping if they didn't give it to him.

458
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:35,199
Speaker 1: Going against the grain. Ain't saying nothing. Who that is?

459
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 6: Bro?

460
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, she did Past Lives. Yeah, but I ain't really

461
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: care for Past Lives.

462
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 2: Oh me and Ay liked it, That's what I'm thinking. Okay,

463
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: I'll be confusing the rights sometimes. All right, so let's

464
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: let's drop down because I don't know that y'all watched

465
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 2: a lot of documentaries for last year.

466
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: I didn't. Film editing is not that interesting right here?

467
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: What wait?

468
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 2: Is not?

469
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: It is interesting? Go ahead, get you let Rod talk

470
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: about it. Okay, the nominations to see if you even

471
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: see these.

472
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: Movies film editing, because everybody here is so fascinated by editing. Okay,

473
00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: advancement and film editing. Rod, we got f one, We

474
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: got Marty Supreme. We got one battle after another, we

475
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: got sentimental value again, and we got sinners.

476
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: So what you what you got value? I know this

477
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: movie apparently.

478
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 3: One has to win that. If you saw it in

479
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: the theater rock Yeah, I saw it in the theater.

480
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 1: Yeah that that sound quality was crazy, So I was down.

481
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: It is a different thing, Nick, that's on here too. Well.

482
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 3: I like the way they were able to chop it

483
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 3: up to like to make you feel like you were

484
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: in the car like with them.

485
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: I feel like the editing was like really.

486
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 6: Editing was really good.

487
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, took a lot of work.

488
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 10: Get on the other side of the room and do it.

489
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 3: I feel like a kid when I was at the theater. Kid,

490
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 3: I was like, I was looking around some bull ship.

491
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: Okay, So Nick says, f one, anybody else got a

492
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: different one?

493
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: I said that one too, that was okay. I said, yeah, damn,

494
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I know I said at first, I'm one.

495
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 4: I didn't say more than Supreme might have something to

496
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 4: say about that.

497
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: No one from that movie.

498
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,479
Speaker 4: I mean, they gonna give that movie an award if

499
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 4: it ain't this one, it's gonna be Best Pictures.

500
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 2: So that movie is getting on the Wars. I agree

501
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: with Spike, it's gonna get something. Yeah, I guess it

502
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: was edited well, but you know, I don't really see

503
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 2: centers on that.

504
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: On that list.

505
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 6: Editor Sentner's has some good editing moments too.

506
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess outside of your average filmmaker person, just

507
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 2: regular folks, I don't. I don't know how many of

508
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: us noticed how good the editing was. I did notice

509
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: how good the editing was for Martiny Supreme, even though

510
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 2: I didn't like the movie that much. And one battle

511
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: after another, honestly, cha.

512
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: Amazing movie scenes. Yes last year. Yeah, I agree. I agree.

513
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: So there's a bunch of international films, but none of us.

514
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure none of us saw these. A couple of

515
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 2: these were on my list, so I'll run through them

516
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: real quick.

517
00:27:59,359 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: Uh.

518
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: The Seek Agent, which is a Brazilian film. I've heard

519
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: amazing things about that movie. It Was Just an Accident,

520
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: which is a French film. Sentimental Value Again, which apparently

521
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: is a Norwegian film, surat from Spain. I can't remember

522
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 2: who told me. I think it might have been Sadistic

523
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: that actually told me that I need to see this movie,

524
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: and I have not watched it yet, so sadistic if

525
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 2: you're listening, I apologize. I will get to it. And

526
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,199
Speaker 2: the voice of hind Rajab which is from Tunisia. So

527
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 2: congrats to all of them. A couple more here, let's

528
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: talk about okay, last two adapted screenplay and original screenplay.

529
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: So for writing adapted screenplay, we have Bogonia, we have Frankenstein,

530
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: we got Hamnett, we got one Battle after another, and

531
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: we got Train Dreams. I didn't see Trained dream yet either,

532
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: but I heard it was really good.

533
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: Would you never see a movie cos not if it

534
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: was written by like Kyler Perry or.

535
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 4: Like, I'm not going to Perry Trained Dreams my nightmare that.

536
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: It's gonna be like human Centipede. I'm not trying to

537
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: see that in the at home. I guess I didn't

538
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 2: think about I don't think I ever really watched this

539
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 2: category or even really think that hard about this category.

540
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: But but yeah, screenplay itself, like what are y'all what

541
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: do y'all got for this? Denominations again, Frankenstein, Hamnett, one

542
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: battle after a another, and Train Dreams.

543
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: I think I think is going to get that just

544
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: because it's like Shakespeare.

545
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 3: The Hollywood likes to pat itself on the back, and

546
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: that's one of the movies that's gonna be like, Okay,

547
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: this is old to that.

548
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.

549
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 5: I wish i'd seen Hamnet. But I could make an

550
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 5: argument for Frankenstein.

551
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: I was about to say that Ken I would not

552
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: be surprised if Frankenstein got this one at all.

553
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 4: I haven't seen a lot of the one that I

554
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 4: have seen, but I feel like it was a great

555
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 4: original screenplay.

556
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: No, it's it's adapted. It's adapted. Yeah, I believe was

557
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: a book.

558
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: Oh okay, So I could see Frankenstein winning it just

559
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: because of what they did with the story for Frankenstein.

560
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: But I can also see Pagonia winning honestly, So I

561
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: don't know.

562
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

563
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: So for the last one, the last one we want

564
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: to talk about today, this is writing original screenplay, and

565
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: then I have one more question to ask y'all before

566
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: we wrap up. But original screenplay Blue Moon, which I

567
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: didn't see. It was just an accident which I did

568
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: not see. Marty supreme sentimental value I haven't seen. And

569
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: sinners what.

570
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: Y'all got for this? What do you say screenplay?

571
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 3: Probably sentimental value wins this one. Nah, But I'm just

572
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: saying they're not going they're not gonna give Sences how

573
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 3: much their animated film to ship. I think it's gonna

574
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: get the Original Screenplay based on everybody talks about that,

575
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 3: or I would love to see Sinners get it as well. Yes,

576
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: but I think that again, the Academy ain't gonna give

577
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 3: them everything. They're going like, all right, you're either gonna

578
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: get Best Director of Screenplay, which one you want?

579
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: I think I think it deserves both of those.

580
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: I think it deserves Best Director and Best Best Original

581
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: Screenplay because out of all of these movies, I think Sinners,

582
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't see the other one, so I'm

583
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: talking out of my ass, but so I guess it's

584
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 2: between that and Marty Supreme. I think Sinners was a

585
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: much more daring screenplay, especially making the whole first hour

586
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: of a film, this old school black drama and then

587
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: in a heartbeat flipping into a B a B horror movie.

588
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: That's not that's not easy to pull off, especially when

589
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: you're I know people are listening like, oh, you're at

590
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: least talking a bad race, like everything to be a

591
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: bad race.

592
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: Well it is when you're a black filmmaker.

593
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: I think doing something that daring is a lot harder

594
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: than say, if fucking you know James Cameron or Quentin

595
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: Tarantino did it, you know.

596
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: So I think I think Sinators deserves this too, and

597
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: for having.

598
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: A music video in the middle of all that too,

599
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, maybe people people.

600
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: May not like that scene, but like I ain't say nothing.

601
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, but that's that's sup that, Like

602
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: no one's ever gonna really do that in a movie, like,

603
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 3: especially like a black director having a gut to be

604
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: like fuck it, if I'm gonna throw everything against the wall,

605
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: I'm throwing everything against the wall.

606
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, Well that's my take. Anybody got

607
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: anything different?

608
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 4: I agree with you Sinners. The there that it took well,

609
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 4: it's almost like two different movies. And then to ask

610
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 4: Michael B. Jordan to play that role like it's that

611
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 4: that definitely wins.

612
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: It for me. Agree, one hundred agree, yep.

613
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: So my last question before we wrap up is anything missing?

614
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: And I mean from any of the categories, Do y'all

615
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: have anything missing? Or are y'all surprised that that there's

616
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: any film, any actor whatever that did not make the list.

617
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm surprised Karate Kids Legends. Then there.

618
00:33:59,240 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: You gotta watch.

619
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm going to watch the movie.

620
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 6: I think, what's the movie did we review where the

621
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 6: girl took the serum and turned into a younger girl?

622
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: That was last year? That was last year.

623
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that she was nominated. Uh, yeah, she was nominated

624
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: last year. She should have worked about her substance.

625
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: Su Okay, that sounded like our killing movie. He wrote

626
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: that that's the ideal movie. Actually he was donated for

627
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: best anyway.

628
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 6: And what I guess for me, like, at what point

629
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 6: will superhero movie start getting nominated for things?

630
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: Never? So I think I don't. I don't.

631
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: I don't agree all the way would never, But I

632
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: do think it's going to be a long time because

633
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: it took this long for horror movies to even start

634
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: getting included in the conversation. I think superhero movies are

635
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: taken less seriously than horror movies right now. I think

636
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: Jordan Peele came along, Eggers came along, Buddy that did

637
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: Hereditary whose name I can't think of right now, Arid Astor,

638
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: those guys came along and they changed the perception of

639
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: what horror movies are and can be that has not

640
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: happened yet for superhero movies.

641
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: I feel like Thunderboats.

642
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 6: I feel like Thunderboats will hound every everybody's list this year,

643
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 6: and not not for the superhero aspect, but just for

644
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 6: the overall like dealing with depression and things like that.

645
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: I felt like, if.

646
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 6: It was a time, it should have been a movie

647
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 6: like that, you know, So that is still disappointing that,

648
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 6: you know, because they do what's her name? She did

649
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 6: a good job in that movie, the one that plays

650
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 6: out Florence put Florence Pugh. Yeah, I mean she's still

651
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 6: Florence Pugh, which she gets nominated for other shit, Like

652
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 6: I don't understand like why she wouldn't get nominated, you know,

653
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 6: for this for anything.

654
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: I think the subject matter is like the biggest thing

655
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 3: about it, because yep, people are gonna be like you

656
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: need to tell me that. Like I get why it's

657
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 3: a good movie, but it's like for how the Oscars

658
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: considered like what should get awards, it's like the subject matters.

659
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: It's somewhat like grounded in reality or realism or some

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Speaker 3: type of issue or ideology that people can rub around,

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Speaker 3: not to say, like mental health isn't that, but mental

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Speaker 3: health is still kind of even new to even talk about.

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Speaker 1: In certain ways in films.

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Speaker 3: But doing it in a superhero movie, to me, if

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Speaker 3: it was going to get nominated, it should have been

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Speaker 3: like endgame, just like how they did like Lord of

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Speaker 3: the Rings, where it's like this is this was an

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Speaker 3: achievement for Hollywood to tell a ten year story, you know.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I just don't understand it because like you

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Speaker 6: got movies like bogonya right, which is like about aliens

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Speaker 6: and shit, I mean, and technically superhero movies is about

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Speaker 6: aliens and all types of shit. So I just don't understand,

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Speaker 6: like it's not even in discussion, like like, and these

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Speaker 6: movies make so much money for uh, for these people.

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Speaker 1: But if you talk to film snobs and you know this, Rod,

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Speaker 1: if you talk to certain film knobs.

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Speaker 2: And you start talking this type of shit, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: dismiss you immediately. They're gonna be like, are you fucking serious?

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Speaker 2: If you go around certain circles, especially the circles I've

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00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 2: been around, if you're like, because I've gotten those looks,

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Speaker 2: you know, as pretentious of an asshole as I am,

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Speaker 2: people are always surprised when I'm like no, like Endgame

683
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Speaker 2: is fucking dope, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I liked Superman.

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Speaker 2: They're like what and it's like, yeah, those are good movies,

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Speaker 2: but the Academy doesn't take those kinds of movies seriously.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I know they don't. I was just saying,

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Speaker 6: and that's why I asked the questions about.

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Speaker 3: The Yeah, maybe maybe depend on how Doomsday goes.

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Speaker 9: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I think at this point maybe

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Speaker 3: the peak because to me, like Endgame would have like

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Speaker 3: also let Hollywood talk about like the peak of superhero

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Speaker 3: movies and kind of capture that moment in time. But

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Speaker 3: now it's just kind of like if you're not even

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Speaker 3: nominated Endgame, I don't know what else, like what else

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Speaker 3: coming afterwards will even be get up to that level

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Speaker 3: to where it's like, oh, this should have been nominated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Jen put the perfect comment in the in the text,

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Speaker 2: which is why his punk ass needs to be on

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Speaker 2: these episodes. But he just said, talking to talking to

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Speaker 2: to film nerds and film snobs about Marvel films, it's

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00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: like trying to talk to hip hop heads about Drake.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to take you seriously like that you're

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Speaker 2: talking to some motherfucker and Tims that's from New York

707
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Speaker 2: that listens to nothing but WU and you're like, listen,

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00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 2: Drake is actually a really good rapper.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be exited from the conversation. They're like, all right, bro,

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Speaker 1: it's the same thing with Marvel films, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 2: So I'm with you, Rod, it's not fair and it

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Speaker 2: should change at some point, but Nick is onto something.

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Speaker 2: If Doomsday does something different, maybe, but I don't see

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Speaker 2: Doomsday changing the perception either. It's Robert Downey Junior dressed

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Speaker 2: up like Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Doom, you know what I mean. It's still Spider Man,

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Speaker 1: and it's nah nah.

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Speaker 2: If it was gonna happen, it would have happened with Thunderbolts,

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Speaker 2: or it would have happened with Logan.

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Speaker 1: But h but I guess we'll see. We'll see. So

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll be.

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Speaker 2: Tuning in for the show and hopefully we'll get Nick

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Speaker 2: back to do a recap of how the actual awards went.

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Speaker 1: But it's not till March. We got plenty of time,

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Speaker 1: and it's not I thought they usually had it in February.

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Speaker 1: They waited till March. Well, I thought war shows.

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Speaker 3: I thought all the war shows because you know that

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Speaker 3: to be trying to cram all this stuff in Black

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Speaker 3: history so we can forget that it is Black history.

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Speaker 1: One. We got the super Bowl All Star Weekend and

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Speaker 1: the Grammy's and ship.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, but it's definitely in March with

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Speaker 2: Colonel O'Brien, so we'll.

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Speaker 1: Be tuning in. We'll definitely come back and get our

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Speaker 1: thoughts about how things went.

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Speaker 2: And let us know if y'all know some movies that

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Speaker 2: got left out and do we all.

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Speaker 1: Need to see fucking tentamental value? Are we missing out?

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Speaker 1: Let us know? And should Spike review twenty eight years later?

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Speaker 2: Bone Temple? Let us know, Bone Temple. I forgot to

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Speaker 2: do it for Spike review the Bone Temple. Should Spike

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Speaker 2: review the Bone in Bone Temple?

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Speaker 1: Let us know and we will see y'all next. We're

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Speaker 1: all peace