1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: You've seen most of the files. Who if anyone did 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Epstein traffic these young women too, besides himself himself? 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: There is no credible information none. If there were, I 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: would bring the case yesterday that he trafficked to other individuals. 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: And the information we have, again is limited. 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: So the answer is no one for the information that 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: we have in the files in the case file. 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 3: Okay, Now, I'm to believe that all the files the 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 3: FBI has, there's no information within them regarding sex trafficking 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 3: to other individuals. Okay, sure, okay, if that's what you 11 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: tell me, that's what you tell me, And I guess 12 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to believe that there's no information the FBI 13 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: has at all or in any way that shows how 14 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 3: Jeffrey Epstein was trafficking young girls to other people. Sure, 15 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with You. 16 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: Find everything at Tony kats dot com live streaming on YouTube. 17 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 3: You can check it out for yourself, and I only 18 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: hope that you will thank you for listening wherever it 19 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: is you are listening. Pambondy is the Attorney General, and 20 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: I was excited for Pambondy to be the ADEG. She 21 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: had done the work in Florida. She knew how to 22 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: run an organization like this. I thought it was a 23 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 3: far better pick than Matt Gates every day of the 24 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: week and twice on Sunday. And I have not been impressed. 25 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: I don't think she's been impressive. And we talk about 26 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: Epstein and this whole release of the Epstein files and 27 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: oh look we've got influencers at the White House, influencers, 28 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: and oh look they've all got binders, and what was 29 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: inside the binders? Absolutely positively nothing, Nothing was in the 30 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 3: binders at all. No, the bag of weed was in 31 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 3: the White House under Biden. These were the binders, bid 32 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 3: in binders. There's two different things. There was nothing in 33 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 3: the binders. There was no new information in the binders. Nothing. 34 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: And they wanted to to tell us that this was 35 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: all fresh information, that was a hot take, but it 36 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 3: wasn't true, wasn't factual. There was nothing in there that 37 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: we didn't already know. And yes, I believe the White 38 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: House is absolutely or the AG has absolutely bungled this 39 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: part of it failed on the part of regarding Epstein 40 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 3: put a Trump in the position where he took I 41 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: think the wrong tact and I think he knows it, 42 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 3: but can't walk away from it. You have to release 43 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: what you can, and you have to release it. If 44 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: no one wants to hear anything else, just release the stuff. 45 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: You have to release what you can to do so. 46 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: And it is Bondi who created the opportunity for the 47 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: left to be able to go after President Trump on 48 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: this subject. That was foolhardy. But on the Katie Miller 49 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 3: podcast saying this, well, this is this is ridiculous. 50 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 4: There's free speech and then there's hate speech, and there 51 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to 52 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: Charlie in our society. 53 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 3: Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups 54 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people, 55 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: so we show them that some action is better than 56 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: no action. 57 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: We will absolutely target you, go after you if you 58 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 4: are targeting anyone with hate speech anything, And that's across 59 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 4: the aisle. 60 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 3: Let's take a moment to take in the insanity of 61 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 3: the statement. And there has been a correction. We'll get 62 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 3: to that. Don't worry. There's free speech and then there's 63 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: hate speech, and there is no place, especially now, especially 64 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 3: after what happened to Charlie in our society. First, there 65 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: is no such thing as hate speech. It doesn't exist. 66 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 3: It's not real. Allow us to break this down, to breakdown. 67 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 3: Never thank it's going to shave. 68 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: Now from me. 69 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 3: Now, it's time for a breakdown, breakdown, breakdown, to take 70 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: me through. Then we start with the basics. There's no 71 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 3: such thing as hate speech. Hate speech is not real. 72 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: There is speech that you hate, there's always speech that 73 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: you hate, but there's no such thing as hate speech. 74 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 3: There is no category for hate speech. It's like there's 75 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 3: no such thing as a hate crime. I don't care 76 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: that the FBI has statistics on it. It's meaningless. All 77 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: crimes will hate crimes. There is no such thing as 78 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: hate speech. It's not real. Someone says something bad about 79 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: Jews or people are black, Hispanic Asian, doesn't matter, does 80 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: not matter. That is not hate speech. It's just speech 81 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: you hate. There is a difference between that and saying 82 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 3: we should go do harm to person X. Difference between 83 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: those two things. But here she is talking about hate speech. 84 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 3: And she said to Katie Miller in this podcast, we 85 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: will absolutely target you, go after you if you are 86 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: targeting anyone with hate speech anything. No, no, no, we 87 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 3: won't and I think Katie Miller should have pushed back here. 88 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 3: I think she made a massive mistake. Katie Miller is 89 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: the wife of Stephen Miller, right, the Trump disciple, And 90 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: I don't mean that in any types of negative way. 91 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 3: He's been with Trump fort forever. He does this massive 92 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 3: job of delivering the message. She can deliver it with ferocity. 93 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 3: And so now his wife's doing a podcast. And who 94 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: do you get as your guests? People like the vice 95 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 3: president I think was the vice president, and the Attorney General, 96 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: some top flight guests for that starting podcast. She's just 97 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: wrong here. She's not just wrong, She's as wrong as 98 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: wrong can be. This then led to a conversation on 99 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: Fox News. This is the Attorney General, Pam Bondie in 100 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: her own words. 101 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 4: That's horrific. It's free speech that you shouldn't be employed 102 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 4: anywhere if you're going to say that, and employers you 103 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 4: have an obligation to get rid of people. You need 104 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 4: to look at people who are saying horrible things and 105 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 4: they shouldn't be working with you. Businesses cannot discriminate. If 106 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: you want to go in and print posters with Charlie's 107 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 4: pictures on them for a vigil, you have to let 108 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 4: them do that. We can prosecute you for that. I 109 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: have har meat Dylan right now in our civil rights 110 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 4: looking at that immediately that Office Depot had done that. 111 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 4: We're looking at that. 112 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: For years, we've been talking about the case of Masterpiece 113 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: Cake Shop, this Colorado bakery that didn't want to decorate 114 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 3: a cake for a same sex marriage. They would bake 115 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: the cake, they'd say, here, buy one of our cakes, 116 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 3: use it for whatever you like, but our religious beliefs 117 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,359 Speaker 3: preclude us from decorating a cake for a same sex marriage. 118 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: And they got sued, and they got vilified, and they 119 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: won the Supreme Court on very narrow grounds, and then 120 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: they got sued again, and the state of Colorado went 121 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: after them because these absolute animalistic progressives who can't believe 122 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: and live and let live. They want fealty. You must obey, 123 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: you must celebrate the thing that you disagree with, and 124 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 3: if you don't, they will come at you with law 125 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 3: fair or now worse, said, you will suffer by our hand. 126 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 3: And gay couples went back to the cake shop knowing 127 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 3: what they would do, so they could say, oh my gosh, 128 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 3: I'm so insulted. How dare you you've triggered me. This 129 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 3: is a violation of my rights. Ain't nobody violating your rights? 130 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 3: You really want the people that don't like you making 131 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: your cake. You've never seen fight club. That's a that's 132 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: a bold strategy, catt, and let's see how it pays off. 133 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 3: They did this, they vilified, they did this to it. 134 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 3: Was it a florist in in Oregon? Or were they 135 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 3: in California. They do this all the time, and we 136 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 3: said it was wrong. Now Here comes the Attorney general 137 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 3: to say you can't say no. I thought the whole 138 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 3: point was you can say no. I thought that was 139 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: the argument that the political right was having for years. Now, 140 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it's not well. If you want 141 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 3: to argue turn about is fair play? Okay, but no 142 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: one has to print a flyer. Now let me take 143 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: it a step further. I don't believe in the public accommodation. Nope. 144 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 3: You don't want to serve me because I'm Jewish. You 145 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 3: don't have to serve me. You don't want to serve 146 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: me because I'm a man. You don't have to serve me. 147 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: You don't want to serve me because I'm white. You 148 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 3: don't have to serve me. Now, if you serve me, 149 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: you can't spit in my food. But you, as a 150 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: business owner should be able to be as much of 151 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: a bigoted low life, no good son of it, you 152 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: know what, as you choose to be. I should have 153 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 3: absolutely no say in that. It's like smoking sections. Who 154 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: the bloody heck is the state or any other law 155 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 3: to tell you you can't have a smoking section and 156 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: engage the marketing of your business as you see fit. 157 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: To hell with the state. You have a smoking section, Well, 158 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 3: it's not fair to the employees. Tell them to get 159 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 3: another job. I have a smoking section. Some people like smoking, 160 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: and I'll hire people who have no problem with smoking. 161 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 3: I believe in the actual liberty conversation where people get 162 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 3: to decide exactly what kind of person they are, whether 163 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: they are inclusive or not in their private business, and 164 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: then that's that. Now, when it comes to the government, 165 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 3: you do everything, you do what you're told your government. 166 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 3: It's a big difference. You want to go after those 167 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 3: people now, I think the ag telling people not to 168 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 3: hire certain people, fire certain people. That's not the every 169 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: day But okay, but you want to now tell people 170 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 3: they have to print the poster. No, no, they don't, 171 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 3: and that strike two for Pambondi, who then put out 172 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 3: this quasi apology where she says hate speaks across the 173 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 3: line into threats. Violence is not protected by the First Amendment. Agreed, 174 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 3: that isn't what you said. This is cover for a 175 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: very poorly worded statement that you might actually believe. Pam 176 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 3: Bondy is screwing up left and right. And I got 177 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: to assume that the President is noticing. This is Tony 178 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 3: Katz today,