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Speaker 1: The Indiana Hoosiers are two to zero after their defeat

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Speaker 1: and I mentioned that I saw them in terms of

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Speaker 1: their opener against Alabama A and M. Admittedly, Marquette gives

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Speaker 1: down and they know prioritize what they want to do,

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Speaker 1: and that is get it into their shooters. But I

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Speaker 1: think what I was impressed by when I saw them

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Speaker 1: to then reset and really good ball movement and spacing

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Speaker 1: for Indiana offensively. But Tom Crane has a much more

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Speaker 1: trained eye when it comes to said things than do I,

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Speaker 1: so I thought we would bring him onto the program,

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Speaker 1: always happy to do so. From ESPN, he's on the

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Speaker 1: Java house Peel and poor guest line and coach.

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Speaker 2: Let's begin with that.

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Speaker 1: What were your initial reactions when you watched Indiana and

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Speaker 1: particularly in the offensive set in the way that they

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Speaker 1: want to play well.

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Speaker 3: It was more for me because again when this came up,

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Speaker 3: like that. They were back in Florida and I didn't

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Speaker 3: was going to do this game. So I spent some

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Speaker 3: that they'd played, just so I got even a better

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Speaker 3: individually based on where they were at and their other programs.

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Speaker 3: And I think what they've done is they've gotten really

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Speaker 3: good cohesiveness. They know what they want to get. Like

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Speaker 3: you just said, they can play a lot of different ways.

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Speaker 3: I thought early on in the game they handled the

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Speaker 3: they went through that pretty easily, whether it was the

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Speaker 3: up from there. They handled demand pressure. But when you

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Speaker 3: first option breaks down, second um breaks down, they keep

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Speaker 3: moving and they keep their spacing.

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Speaker 4: And then they do a really good job.

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Speaker 3: This was clearing the game to me, Like they'll run

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Speaker 3: their actions and okay, if they don't get anything off

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Speaker 3: be there. They do a great job of flowing then

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Speaker 3: off to the sides. And I thought they did. I

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Speaker 3: necessarily the pistol action where it's sort of had to

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Speaker 3: get it back, but those side screens, you know, whether

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Speaker 3: communication issues on Marquette and you can see this. They

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Speaker 3: did the same thing against Baylor, and they get a

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Speaker 3: lot of great looks because of it. Like, the other

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Speaker 3: thing that I think stands out to this team. About

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Speaker 3: this team is they're not a dribble, dribble, let's look,

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Speaker 3: let's hold it type of team. It is moving right,

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Speaker 3: it moves off the pass. They make quick decisions with

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Speaker 3: the ball. I think that's a combination of Darren's offense

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Speaker 3: that's a tricky deal. Now, you know, outside of Tucker

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Speaker 3: and Connor he's bringing in guys that he's never coached before, right, So,

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Speaker 3: like it's really hard to get guys to understand, especially

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Speaker 1: You know, the reality is in today's college basketball, it's

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Speaker 1: the with the portal and we know that coach, right,

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Speaker 1: that you have to have when you come in, you

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Speaker 1: have coached, and you have recruited. How do you know

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Speaker 3: Hit it right right now? Because as the portal, and

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Speaker 3: But I mean, they've got when you've got guys that

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Speaker 3: they have an unselfishness and the Trent debris show in

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Speaker 3: the first half was incredible. It wasn't just how open

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Speaker 2: And you don't pass the ball.

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Speaker 3: They can really pass the ball.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting because you know Tucker de Breeze. I

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Speaker 1: it in a language that Indiana fans can relate to

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Speaker 1: what I'm seeing here is basically Aaron Kraft and then

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Speaker 1: Now are those Is that a fair comparison for Indiana fans?

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Speaker 3: Well in a way, the end right part, the defensive

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Speaker 3: What they are really good at, and Darren's teams have

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Speaker 3: think Indiana fans are going to like a lot of Like,

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Speaker 3: we had a lot of movement in our offense. We

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Speaker 2: Be like this.

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Speaker 3: Those guys can make those shots and that is a huge,

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Speaker 3: No, And I'll tell you I saw them practice on

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Speaker 1: Well, it was great. It was a great game. It

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I always enjoyed talking to you, so Coach appreciated.

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Speaker 3: It's got a lot of This team's got a lot going,

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Speaker 1: Like, they're like beads of water on your windshield. I

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Speaker 3: that offense isn't going to go away.

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Speaker 1: Coach, we look forward to watching it and look forward

435
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Speaker 1: to watching your games over the course of the year

436
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Speaker 1: as well, and always welcome back on but appreciate the

437
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Speaker 1: time today on short notice. Again, just like that game,

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Speaker 1: appreciate the time.

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Speaker 3: Happy to do it, man, thanks a lot.

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Speaker 2: To appreciate it.

441
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Speaker 1: Tom Creane joining us on the Java House Peel and

442
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Speaker 1: poor guest line. Do you know the turn it up

443
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Speaker 1: that you hear right there is actually from the recording

444
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: with Ronnie van Zant where he couldn't hear in his headsets.

445
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I knew he couldn't hear in his headphones.

446
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I probably mentioned that every single time it's played, right,

447
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 1: I want you to think back, not to Sweet Home Alabama,

448
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:28,080
Speaker 1: not to Leonard Skinnard, but if you recall when the

449
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 1: Pacers were tied at two games apiece and they had

450
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Speaker 1: to go back to Oklahoma City and they lost game

451
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Speaker 1: five to go down three games to two. They lost

452
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Speaker 1: one twenty to one oh nine, And at the time

453
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Speaker 1: the next day you were thinking about it and you're like, man,

454
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Speaker 1: what a you know this? This their backs against the

455
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 1: wall and they got to come back here try to

456
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Speaker 1: win a game six man, what a what an opportunity

457
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 1: they had to go up three to one, and then

458
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Speaker 1: the debacle of kind of the mathrom meltdown in Game four,

459
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Speaker 1: and when you were watching in the NBA Finals, you

460
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 1: were watching Pascal Siakam, and you knew that the Pacers

461
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Speaker 1: gave up some assets to get Pascal Siakam, including their

462
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six first round pick along with Mohave King,

463
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Speaker 1: and there was another pick involved. But the day after

464
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Speaker 1: that Game five in the NBA Finals, they made a

465
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Speaker 1: move that because they were now down three to two

466
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Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals, you didn't really think a lot

467
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Speaker 1: about their twenty twenty six first round pick that they

468
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Speaker 1: had initially sent to Toronto as part of that Pascal

469
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Speaker 1: Siakam trade. Toronto then in turn used that pick to

470
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Speaker 1: try to get Brandon Ingram. There was he was involved

471
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Speaker 1: in a trade as well with New Orleans. And what

472
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Speaker 1: happened on June the seventeenth is that the pay made

473
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Speaker 1: a deal that kind of went off radar to get

474
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Speaker 1: back that pick that they had previously sent as part

475
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Speaker 1: of that Pascal Siakam deal. And so actually they traded

476
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Speaker 1: Mohave King excuse me, in a future pick to get

477
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Speaker 1: that first round pick back. So initially that pick was

478
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Speaker 1: part of the Siakam deal. Toronto sent that pick to

479
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Speaker 1: New Orleans. And then the Pacers used Mojave king in

480
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: a pick to get back their twenty twenty six first

481
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Speaker 1: round pick. They did it the day after they went

482
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Speaker 1: down three to two in the NBA Finals, and at

483
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Speaker 1: the time because the conversation was about the fact that

484
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Speaker 1: they had lost by eleven the night before, they were

485
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Speaker 1: now down three games to two in the NBA Finals,

486
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Speaker 1: and theoretically that pick was like, yeah, okay, great, so

487
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Speaker 1: they got back a pick that's probably going to be

488
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Speaker 1: like the twenty ninth overall of the thirtieth overall. Probably

489
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Speaker 1: some two way players are going to get great whatever,

490
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Speaker 1: wake me up when it happens. And here we are,

491
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Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden you look at it

492
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Speaker 1: and you go, WHOA wait a minute. The Pacers based

493
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: on attrition. No Haliburton, no nim Hard for the better

494
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Speaker 1: part of the start of the season. No McConnell for

495
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Speaker 1: the better part, even though he's about to come back,

496
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Speaker 1: No Matherin, no topping all of it. When you look

497
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Speaker 1: at where they are slotted, that well could be a

498
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Speaker 1: lottery pick. And then as we bring in Scott Agnes

499
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Speaker 1: from field House Files, and Scott can feel free to

500
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Speaker 1: disagree with me, there are a number of things they

501
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Speaker 1: can do with that pick. But assuming that is going

502
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Speaker 1: to be a high draft pick this year, my thought

503
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Speaker 1: would be Scott agneson you tell.

504
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Speaker 2: Me if you disagree.

505
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Speaker 1: That gives them flexibility not to find the next Miles Turner,

506
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Speaker 1: as I think people would look at, but rather to

507
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Speaker 1: perhaps find a replacement for a Benutict Mathern, because if

508
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Speaker 1: Matherin is about to go into free agency as it is,

509
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: or his contracts coming up, then this gives them the

510
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Speaker 1: ability if they so choose, to flip Matherin into an

511
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: established player that becomes your Miles Turner replacement, and then

512
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: you draft a player that can become a wing role player,

513
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: bench player for you to eventually take the minutes that

514
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Speaker 1: would have been Benedict Matherins.

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Speaker 2: A lot in play there.

516
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Speaker 1: But I think it's interesting because it kind of went

517
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Speaker 1: as a ship in the night. Now that's a storyline

518
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: that is there before us. Scott Agnes from Fieldhouse Files

519
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: on the Java House Peel and poor guest line.

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Speaker 2: What say you with all of that commentary, Scott.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, Jake a great point in terms of this

522
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 6: being such a huge weapon that the front office did

523
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 6: in the midst of a playoff series. You just don't

524
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 6: normally see one action during the series and two one

525
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 6: involving one of the two teams in the finals. But

526
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Speaker 6: it was such a heavy move for them ultimately to

527
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Speaker 6: get their pick back for this upcoming season. I think

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Speaker 6: a lot of factors went into it, But you're right,

529
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Speaker 6: it's the flexibilability in the way in which you could

530
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Speaker 6: util and if you're New Orleans at the time, you're

531
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Speaker 6: sitting there going, hey, look, the Eastern Conference is wide open.

532
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 6: The Pacers are the class of the East right now.

533
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 6: They had seen Boston and Tatum get injured, Philly who

534
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 6: knows what's up with them, Cleveland fizzled out in the playoffs,

535
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 6: and you'd think, hey, look, Pacers might be, you know,

536
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 6: one of the best teams in the league next year.

537
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 6: Therefore one of the worst picks. Let's push it down

538
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 6: the road. And in turn it looks advantageous certainly for

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Speaker 6: the Pacers.

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Speaker 5: Right now, and yeah, it could be matherin.

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Speaker 6: The reality in all this is the Pacers have just

542
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Speaker 6: paid a lot of players, so it would be favorable

543
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 6: for them to get a couple of cheap players as well.

544
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Speaker 6: When you also consider you might soon here in a

545
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Speaker 6: couple of years. You got Jarris Walker to pay Matherin,

546
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Speaker 6: what happens with him this upcoming offseason and you have

547
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 6: to go out and go get a more costly center

548
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 6: as well. So a number of ways they could utilize it,

549
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 6: but they rarely get a top pick. So if it holds,

550
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Speaker 6: which it's still so very early that it's a draft

551
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 6: that so far, those that really study at Jacob been really.

552
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Speaker 5: Impressed with the depth of it.

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Speaker 1: I think Jerris Walker Scott is a curious case. And

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Speaker 1: let me explain what I mean by that. Walker is

555
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: starting to show that he can do. You know, the

556
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: game is starting to finally slow down for him. But

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Speaker 1: I feel like what Jeris Walker so far has shown

558
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: is that he is a player that the system Indiana

559
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: plays is beneficial for him. And I don't know that

560
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 1: other teams would see what he is doing as immediately transcendent,

561
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: maybe almost be more to Indiana it would be to

562
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: another franchise, And as a result of that, you may

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Speaker 1: not have to overpay for him to retain him like

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Speaker 1: you would a Matherin if you decided to go there,

565
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Speaker 1: because Matheren looks like a guy you can plug in

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Speaker 1: anywhere and he's going to give you twenty five. Does

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Speaker 1: that make sense?

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Speaker 6: It does, although I would kind of counter that as

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Speaker 6: with Matherin, he's a little bit more ball dominant, and

570
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Speaker 6: so it depends on who's on your roster versus Jarris.

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Speaker 5: He's got the size that every team covets.

572
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 6: He's a six foot eight wing who can shoot outside,

573
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Speaker 6: who can defend. I think he can adapt to the

574
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Speaker 6: system that he goes to and lean on those intangibles

575
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Speaker 6: that he was given, whereas Matheren's a lot more of Okay,

576
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 6: let's let's make sure he gets enough touches, gets his shots,

577
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Speaker 6: gets to the free throw line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Walker to me, do you see Walker?

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Speaker 1: And I know he has shown it Scott right, and

580
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: you would have probably the numbers before me, you know,

581
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: in front of you or more aware of it. Do

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Speaker 1: you think of Walker as an outside shooting I'll use

583
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: the word threat for lack of a better phrase, but

584
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Speaker 1: are they comfortable with Walker as an outside shooter?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? For sure.

586
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Speaker 6: This is something that he really improved upon in his

587
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 6: rookie year when most people weren't watching, when he was

588
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 6: playing in front of seventy five people in G League, games,

589
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 6: and now he's become a forty percent three point shooter,

590
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 6: and so yeah, I'm very comfortable with him take it

591
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 6: beyond the arc whenever open. It's just obviously, like almost

592
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 6: any player, you don't want to lean on it. You

593
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 6: want to have that in your arsenal.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I saw you there. Your thoughts on

595
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: the Boom game. I mentioned it earlier. I guess they had.

596
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Speaker 1: It was explained to me that they had an issue

597
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: with the garage in terms of the ticketing for the garage,

598
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Speaker 1: and I guess that's how I got to park free.

599
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: But that said, your overall thoughts on the new arena

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Speaker 1: and just the experience people might get that can't go

601
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Speaker 1: to a PACER game but are able to go out

602
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Speaker 1: and see the Boom.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought it was a really exciting night.

604
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 6: I think they have to be encouraged by the fact

605
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 6: that they had basically a sellout crowd.

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Speaker 5: For that for their scrimmage. There were I don't know.

607
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 6: Hal thousand people probably for their free open scrimmage, and

608
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 6: you never know with those things, right, Like, it's a

609
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 6: newly established team to the market and they're finally marketing

610
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 6: the team. It's a new name so that might breed

611
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 6: some unfamiliarity, and.

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Speaker 5: I thought, overall, the only negative I I.

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Speaker 6: Had heard was what you just referenced was the parking

614
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 6: issues people delayed getting into the games, and I would

615
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 6: chalk that up to, hey, look, this is the first

616
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 6: time for everybody, the workers, fans getting into the.

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Speaker 5: Game, what time and such.

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Speaker 6: So once you get into the game, it's a very

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Speaker 6: similar game experience. In fact, many of the people putting

620
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 6: it on are the same Pacer employees that weren't Pacer

621
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 6: night games. And so I think it's a very affordable

622
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 6: option here, And if this Pacer team ever gets healthy, Jacob,

623
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 6: it gets even better because you'll utilize some of those

624
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Speaker 6: two way blits carriers that the Pacers have depended on.

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Speaker 1: Right now, you come out and see Quentin Jackson or

626
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: Taylor Peter or you know whoever it might be, right,

627
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Speaker 1: I Scott to me the other thing, I was just

628
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: stunned by in a good way. We were driving in

629
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden we hit all this traffic,

630
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Speaker 1: and I said to Shannon, I'm like, well, I don't

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Speaker 1: think this is for the game, because I don't how

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Speaker 1: many people knew about this, And I was amazed how

633
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: many people came out for it and were aware of it.

634
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: But I also just thought Scott, it was a perfect

635
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: opportunity and the real coup here for the Pacers for

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00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: young kids who because you know Pacer games are it's

637
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Speaker 1: a lot, I mean, it's a big crowd, it's louder,

638
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: it's more expensive. Obviously, just seem to me to be

639
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: the perfect family environment to introduce young kids to NBA

640
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: or high level basketball.

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00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 5: Entirely agree.

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00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 6: And there's a number of ways here cheaper tickets, how

643
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 6: about those more more in the suburbs that you know,

644
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 6: maybe don't have a thirty five forty five minute drive,

645
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 6: or you have to deal with the construction. It hits

646
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 6: a whole different market. I think it also allows for

647
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 6: fans adults included, to get.

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00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 5: Closer to the action.

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00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 6: There's a lot of corporate seats right in these major venues,

650
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 6: and you can get pretty darn close right there in

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Speaker 6: this comfy, cozy, thirty four hundred seat arena and get

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Speaker 6: a good vantage point. I'm sure Pacer players in a

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Speaker 6: quiet part of their schedule will make it down there

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Speaker 6: to support. You had several of the two way guys

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Speaker 6: there for the open scrimmage just to watch and support,

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Speaker 6: and so yeah, I think this is going to go

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Speaker 6: over well in this market especially.

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Speaker 5: The best thing about all this.

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Speaker 6: To me is, in addition to marketing the team, Jake,

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Speaker 6: is they can have good timing of games because this

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Speaker 6: is their arena, so like the other night, you know,

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Speaker 6: Friday night, Saturday night at seven, those things versus the

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Speaker 6: last like four years they've been playing Tuesday at noon

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Speaker 6: and things just whenever they could get in the fieldhouse.

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Speaker 6: So early impressions were very positive about the whole.

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Speaker 5: Experience in the game atmosphere.

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Speaker 6: And I think it's also a bonus to have a

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Speaker 6: player we're all familiar with here and Kyle Guy that

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Speaker 6: right now.

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Speaker 5: Has had to lead the way.

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Speaker 6: But the disappointing thing is the injury bug is extended

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Speaker 6: from the Fever to the Pacers and now to the Boom.

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Speaker 6: They did have an emergency hardship player added last week.

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Speaker 2: The Boom had one.

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Speaker 5: You're saying, yeah, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 6: You have to have a minimum of eight players, Jake,

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Speaker 6: and for their season opener and Grand Rapids they were

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Speaker 6: below that after a player was not feeling well in

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Speaker 6: shoot around, so a player they had just cut last

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Speaker 6: week was driven in from Chicago and had to play

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Speaker 6: in the game. So yeah, I don't know what it is,

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Speaker 6: but I wish this injury bug would go away here indefinitely.

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Speaker 1: Scott Agnes is our guest Fieldhouse files, where you can

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Speaker 1: read his work. He's on the Java House Peel and

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Speaker 1: Poor guest line. Jake twenty five is the discount code

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Speaker 1: for twenty five percent off at Java house dot com.

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Speaker 1: Scott TJ McConnell back tonight. Do you think or simply

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Speaker 1: is this now the introduction tours starting to look at

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Speaker 1: the games on when there is the possibility we'll see him?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would guess based on how they listed him

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Speaker 6: as questionable. If you go off of what Nimhard was

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Speaker 6: the other day, it means let's see how he warms up,

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Speaker 6: how he's feeling, and then through throughout the game. Obviously

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Speaker 6: Rick Carlisle and the training staff will watch his minutes,

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Speaker 6: so I would be encouraged, but do not have a

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Speaker 6: definitive yes or no, certainly for tonight. But the main

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Speaker 6: thing in all this is it allows them to get

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Speaker 6: another their playmaking guard and Nimhart can get back to

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Speaker 6: running the starters.

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Speaker 5: McConnell back with the reserves.

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Speaker 6: And then you get some sort of continuity, some familiarity

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Speaker 6: that's been completely lost through the first ten games of

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Speaker 6: the season.

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Speaker 1: How would you assess Nimhard just in terms of his

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Speaker 1: return and knocking off the rust, so to.

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Speaker 6: Speak, far beyond my expectations? Right, Like, he's played one

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Speaker 6: game this season until his return, and so no way

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Speaker 6: he wasn't out of game shape and game rhythm and

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Speaker 6: a lot of new players that he hadn't played with

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Speaker 6: before and you wouldn't have known it. So I was

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Speaker 6: very impressed with the way in which he quickly came

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Speaker 6: back and was able to play a key role for

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Speaker 6: this group.

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Speaker 1: Scott Agnes is our guest field House Files. Scott, I

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Speaker 1: was thinking about this as we were talking about it

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Speaker 1: off the top with the draft pick. Okay, when when

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Speaker 1: you look at you know Siakam notably, but if you

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Speaker 1: assess this season, and I don't know when it would

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Speaker 1: be the case that the Pacers would look at this,

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Speaker 1: but we knew going into it what the reality was

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Speaker 1: with no Halliburton. Do they begin to temper you think

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Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form the minutes that some

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Speaker 1: veterans are getting just to make sure and I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying to tank it, but rather to be conscientious and

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Speaker 1: aware of the mileage they're putting on players that they

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Speaker 1: may need to be fresher in, say a year or two.

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Speaker 2: Dumb as that.

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Speaker 6: May sound, no, I would agree, And I even don't

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Speaker 6: even think the more long term. It's more the short

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Speaker 6: term is the overuse leads to injuries, and right now

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Speaker 6: they've got injuries in many cases that have been some overuse.

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Speaker 6: And one of the great storylines for me, I thought

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Speaker 6: coming into the season we're surrounding this team is how

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Speaker 6: did this group handle their off season differently because instead

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Speaker 6: of you know, their season ending by May, it went

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Speaker 6: in even another month into very late June, and so

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Speaker 6: you know, it really does not allow them the opportunity

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Speaker 6: to take a full month month and.

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Speaker 5: A half off.

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Speaker 6: Then they got right back to it Jake in early

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Speaker 6: September at Siakam's players only mini camp.

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Speaker 5: Then you get to camp and this team was playing

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Speaker 5: hard and picking up full court in the preseason.

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Speaker 6: Just so many different considerations that this front office, training staff,

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Speaker 6: coaching staff have to consider. And I thought we saw

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Speaker 6: it for the first time the other night, second night

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Speaker 6: of a back to back or Nie Smith rather not

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Speaker 6: completely healthy dealing with a little pains that say, hey,

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Speaker 6: let's not force it. Siakam, his workload has been overwhelming.

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Speaker 6: I would say if he's had to do everything to

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Speaker 6: just keep them in games, to keep things reasonable, and

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Speaker 6: so sneaking in a rest game for him, I think that.

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Speaker 5: Was totally reasonable.

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Speaker 6: As much as you hated for fans in person and

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Speaker 6: watching on TV, I think it just is not sustainable

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Speaker 6: for him to do what he is having to do

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Speaker 6: given the.

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Speaker 5: Lack of players available.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I think they absolutely have to and will

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Speaker 6: be mindful of that with many of the players that

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Speaker 6: have played a ton of basketball over the last three

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Speaker 6: years with them.

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Speaker 2: Scott, you're in Florida right now? What part of Florida?

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Speaker 5: Bell Air of Florida, So right by Clearwater bell Air.

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Speaker 1: Of Florida, not to be confused with bell Air, California. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's the temperature?

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Speaker 6: Fifty five? You would have never guessed that. I wouldn't

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Speaker 6: have either. We got a cold front for a couple days.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, now it's all relative, right, I mean, it's like

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Speaker 1: twenty eight or it's fifty five here in the building.

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Speaker 2: It's fifty five in the bathroom. Isn't that right, Eddie?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I haven't been in the bathroom.

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Speaker 1: Okay, ask I just went out of the restroom the

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Speaker 1: commercial break. I walked in and Landon, who does Tony

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Speaker 1: Katz's show was in there and he was starting a fire?

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Speaker 2: Who was odd? Scott?

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Speaker 1: The reason you're in Florida work purpose is correct? Am

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Speaker 1: I allowed to say that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, yes.

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Speaker 6: So Caitlin Clark is playing in the LPGA Pro Am

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Speaker 6: for the AICA for the second straight year. That'll be

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Speaker 6: tomorrow if he's offered a eight thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 6: She'll play the front nine with Anika sor Stam.

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Speaker 5: And it's just.

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Speaker 6: It's it's an event that's sponsored by game Bridge. She

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Speaker 6: has an endorsement deal with him. And to make it

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Speaker 6: all better, you'll appreciate this. Last year, a couple of

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Speaker 6: the celebrity caddies we're part of Gamebridge, where Colton Hurda,

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Speaker 6: Marcus eriksson of Indy car. This year, a couple of

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Speaker 6: her teammates, Sophie Cunningham, Lexi Hall involved Brionna Scurry as well.

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Speaker 6: And so it'll just be a fun, lighthearted atmosphere and

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Speaker 6: the best thing these players will tell you, as they

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Speaker 6: did last year, is Caitlyn's bringing eyes to no matter

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Speaker 6: where she goes. So more eyes on her in this LPGA.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, the Golf Channel will.

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Speaker 5: Show parts of it, I don't know how much for

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Speaker 5: like two hours tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: That coverage will bring more eyes to the tournament that

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Speaker 6: will be going on throughout the weekend. I would say

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Speaker 6: a bogie golfer based on what I've seen, like she'll

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Speaker 6: have some really good shots and then she'll fight someone

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Speaker 6: off the tee or miss a good putt and then

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Speaker 6: the next time making eighteen footer. So I don't think

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Speaker 6: she plays nearly as much as she likes, but she

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Speaker 6: belongs to courses in Indianapolis, and this is.

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Speaker 5: One thing she really enjoys that I think.

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Speaker 6: It's just so different from basketball, just from a simple

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Speaker 6: fact that it's all individual and mental versus the team

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Speaker 6: sport that she does with the Indiana Fever.

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Speaker 2: Scott, have we heard anything on the WNBA front on

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Speaker 2: how negotiations are currently going for a new CBA.

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Speaker 6: No, no update other than at the end of last month,

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Speaker 6: both sides of Green Eddie to extend the bargaining agreement

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Speaker 6: in another thirty days that expires at the end of this month.

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Speaker 6: But based on what all they had to say, it

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Speaker 6: seems like they had a lot of ground to make

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Speaker 6: up and so but no firm update or no nothing

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Speaker 6: of note either of like what the sticking points are,

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Speaker 6: because I just think there have been so many to

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Speaker 6: this point.

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Speaker 1: Scott Agnes Field House files where you can read the work.

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Speaker 1: Joining us, Java House, Peel and Poor guest Line. Enjoy

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Speaker 1: the pseudo amusing air quotes cold weather down in Florida

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Speaker 1: and safe travels back.

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Speaker 5: All right, awesome, appreciate it. Thanks guys, good.

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Speaker 2: Luck getting back.

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Speaker 1: I guess I should say, based on the way things

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Speaker 1: are going, although I think we're still probably in another

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Speaker 1: week of flight delayso but just didn't didn't just jinx

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Speaker 1: it because I will be leaving at two o'clock tomorrow

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Speaker 1: for vacation. Joining us now in the Java House, Peeling,

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Speaker 1: Poor Guest Line. Jake twenty five is the discount code

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Speaker 1: for Java House, Java house dot com. Derek Schultz joins

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Speaker 1: us on the program. Derek, I thought you sabotaged it

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Speaker 1: here because Eddie said that he was going to get

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Speaker 1: you and he was gonna play Hanson for you coming back,

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Speaker 1: and we ended up with with dire straits, and we

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Speaker 1: were in dire straits because you weren't answering your phone shocked.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, I was actually picking up some Java house. It's

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Speaker 4: like twenty five below zero right now, at least it

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Speaker 4: feels that way in Indianapolis, so I needed a pick

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Speaker 4: me up, not only to warm me up, but to

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Speaker 4: wake me up.

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Speaker 2: What do you got going on that's got you tired?

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Speaker 4: It's tough, man. Remote work is hard when you're working

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Speaker 4: from home. So I'm just you know, doing some work,

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Speaker 4: answering some emails, writing some stuff, my heated blanky, and

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Speaker 4: I got my Java house. So I'm good. I'm life's good.

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Speaker 2: So you don't have a snuggie.

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Speaker 4: I still have my snuggy. I haven't broken it out yet.

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Speaker 4: It's with the rest of the winter stuff because I

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Speaker 4: was not expecting it to be winter on whatever. Today

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Speaker 4: is November? What is it eleven?

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Speaker 2: I mean? Who was right?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Did you? Obviously? Derek?

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Speaker 1: You and I have talked about this, but the cold

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Speaker 1: sitting at eight and two, let's begin with that.

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Speaker 2: You know you have followed.

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Speaker 1: I think most people that know you know that growing

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Speaker 1: up you were a Giants fan, and so I would

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Speaker 1: imagine that that means that indirectly you kind of keep

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Speaker 1: at least one eye on them, or have over the years.

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Speaker 1: So you knew of Daniel Jones coming in, and that's

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Speaker 1: all ancient history when it comes to Jones as a Giant, however,

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Speaker 1: are you concerned at all about the fact that the

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Speaker 1: last two weeks we've started to see the turnover bugaboo

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Speaker 1: rear at ugly head when it comes to Daniel Jones.

871
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think it's kind of two separate things.

872
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 4: I think there is a concern over the ball security.

873
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 4: I mean, he's got to be better about protecting the football,

874
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 4: and I understand sometimes on those strip secks there's nothing

875
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 4: that you can do about it, right, but what are

876
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 4: we talking about? Six fumbles in two games that just

877
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 4: can't happen. You have to be less reckless with the

878
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 4: ball than that. But I think the other issue is

879
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 4: the fact that he's just been under a lot of

880
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 4: duress and the pressure rate has skyrocketed since the first

881
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 4: seven games compared to the last two with what Pittsburgh

882
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 4: and Atlanta had been able to do. And I think

883
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 4: that that's less of the Jones problem and just more

884
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 4: of a protection problem in general. Any quarterback that you

885
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 4: pressure to the amount that Jones has been pressured in

886
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 4: the last two games, I think it was like eighteen

887
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 4: percent or something crazy. Don't quote me on that, but

888
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 4: I think that's the statistic that I saw familiar today

889
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 4: on ex Twitter or whatever. And anybody that you do

890
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 4: that too is going to get rattled and have some issues.

891
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 4: And I think really the fact that he's been pressured

892
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 4: a lot more in the last two games has caused

893
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 4: some of the issues that we've seen. But Jake, at

894
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: the end of the day, I'm going off the top

895
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 4: of my head here, but nineteen to twenty five two

896
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 4: fifty five through a tud interception fumble, Like, if that

897
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 4: is Daniel Jones in a DF game, then sign me

898
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 4: up for that. I mean, that's pretty good if that's

899
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 4: a bad game, and he led the game tying and

900
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 4: then eventually the game winning drives.

901
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: But Derek, it's a lot like what we saw with

902
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: Indiana football, and we've talked about with Mendoza and the

903
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: fact that yes, you get a play or a drive

904
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: or a throw down the stretch that offsets a previous

905
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: driver or a previous moment, and you say to yourself, look,

906
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: you take that every day of the week, But at

907
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: some point, are you not running the risk of flirting

908
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: with danger in the fact that you could only bail

909
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: yourself out so many times.

910
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course you're always flirting with danger when it

911
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 4: comes to that, and you're always trying to be cognizant

912
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 4: of you know, what is real and what's not, and

913
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 4: what's sustainable and what's not. And you look at not

914
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 4: even Jones, but just what the Cults did over the

915
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 4: first six or having games of the season, and they're

916
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 4: the most historically efficient offense this century in the NFL.

917
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 4: And then I think deep down you kind of knew, Okay,

918
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 4: while this offense is good, they're probably not gonna be

919
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: peak Tom Brady and peak Randy Moss and the twenty

920
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 4: seven to sixteen to oh Patriots, Right. I mean, I

921
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 4: think rational people understood that that was the case. But

922
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 4: this still can be a really good offense and the

923
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 4: best office in the league and the most efficient offense

924
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 4: in the league. And I think that even comes with

925
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 4: some natural regression from the level that Daniel Jones was

926
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 4: playing at. But I just tried Jake to add everything

927
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 4: up as it's happening. I'm less reactionary in a game

928
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 4: by game basis that I'm more working on sample size.

929
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 4: I'm a sample guy, and through nine games this year,

930
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 4: I think you have to be thrilled with what this

931
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 4: offense has been able to do. And a big portion

932
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 4: of that has been what Jones has been able to

933
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 4: do in stabilizing that quarterback position.

934
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of you being less reactionary, do

935
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: you recall I've mentioned this to you before, probably one

936
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: hundred times, but your reaction when I showed up at

937
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: your bachelor party and you wanted to fight me?

938
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: Do you remember that?

939
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 4: Is it really where we're going to get My bachelor

940
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 4: party was in like twenty thirteen. Do you think your

941
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 4: listeners are interested in hearing about you?

942
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: I showed up and you were in the alley shadow boxing,

943
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: and then you said.

944
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 4: Oh okay, Yeah. My memory of that night is a

945
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 4: little hazy. I think it was based on I was

946
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 4: taking a new form of aspirin, and so I.

947
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: Was now, okay, taking a new form of aspirin. Yeah,

948
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 1: are you okay? Are you a daily aspirin taker?

949
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: Is that it? And suddenly like how many forms?

950
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: Aspirin is a leader literally a set of salasilic acid,

951
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: Like there's only one form of it?

952
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: How many forms could there be?

953
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 4: I just you know, I had a feeling a little

954
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 4: bit under the weather. Had nothing to do with the

955
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 4: German beers at Rascal or that we had started out

956
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 4: the night with, which was a horrible decision. I don't

957
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 4: know why we began a bachelor party at Rascal or

958
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 4: that should usually be the end cap. But yeah, you know,

959
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 4: I was a little bit in and out of it,

960
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 4: so my memory was a little bit hazy, not alcohol related,

961
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 4: but I don't remember shadow boxing. I do remember you

962
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 4: showing up and people making a big deal about him

963
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 4: sole away from my night, but that's about the extent

964
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 4: of it.

965
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah, people were people were thrilled.

966
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: I was like, man, this.

967
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 4: I remember one of our mutual friends brought his wife

968
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 4: to a bachelor party, so I do remember that as well.

969
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: That was also a great decision.

970
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: Yes, do you believe that there is a cap that

971
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: the Colts should pay? I mean I realized there's a

972
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: salary cap, but uh is Alec Pierce working himself? Derek,

973
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: in your opinion into the equation of being able to

974
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 1: name his price.

975
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I don't, and I don't think that

976
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 4: this is a hot take to suggest this. I think

977
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 4: he is their best receiver. And that is a statement

978
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 4: that would have gotten you lacked out of the room

979
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 4: two years ago, certainly three years ago. You know, the

980
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 4: thing about Pierce is that even when you go back

981
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 4: to like the twenty twenty three season, remember with Gardner

982
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 4: Minshew and Gardner Minshew god bless him great mustache, he

983
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 4: couldn't throw the ball ten yards, right, So when you

984
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 4: have a guy that can't throw the ball ten yards,

985
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 4: Alec Pierce's greatest skill, his ability to go up and

986
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 4: get and make big plays and stretch the field, is

987
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 4: pretty much neutralized completely. And so if you really dug

988
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 4: deeper into twenty twenty three, I think you saw that

989
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 4: there was something there that the Colts could utilize with Pierce.

990
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 4: They just needed to get a quarterback that could utilize it.

991
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 4: And while Richardson had his moments, because the one thing

992
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 4: and probably the only thing that Anthony Richardson could do

993
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 4: somewhat effectively was thrown accurate deep ball. We saw that

994
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 4: work with Alec Pierce at times last year I don't

995
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 4: think I had any idea that he was going to

996
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 4: turn into the well rounded route runner, blocker, do everything

997
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 4: type receiver he's become.

998
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: I think it's the fact that he's also like he's

999
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: a bubble screen to use that overused term. But you

1000
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: know he'sn't at the line receiver as well. Right, If

1001
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: you've got to basically just turning quick quick throw on

1002
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: the line to a guy that then you try to

1003
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: get in a crease or in space, he can do

1004
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 1: that as well. And it's interesting to me that when

1005
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: they had minshewed that and maybe it was that Alec

1006
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: Pierce had to grow into that, but they didn't seemingly

1007
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: try to use him in any other way other than

1008
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: that prior to this year.

1009
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, they were trying to use him as

1010
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 4: a one trick pony. And to be fair, we all

1011
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 4: thought that he was a one trick at least I did.

1012
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 4: I thought, Okay, he's you know, he's like that to

1013
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 4: make a Major League Baseball comparison, he's like that. He's

1014
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 4: like Glenn Allen Hill, you remember him. He's like, yeah,

1015
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 4: when he gets into one, he's going to launch it

1016
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 4: in outer space like he was that type of player,

1017
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 4: but man, he's become not only such a well rounded piece,

1018
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 4: but such a critical one for the operation of their offense.

1019
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 4: I mean, you see what happens when he's not on

1020
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 4: the field and how it impacts everything. I mean, the

1021
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 4: fact that they felt so comfortable trading away a d Mitchell,

1022
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 4: I think tells you. And you don't get me wrong,

1023
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 4: some of that with Ady Mitchell's own fault, right, but

1024
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 4: I think it tells you how comfortable they are with

1025
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 4: Peers being their long term guy for sure.

1026
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: Derek, what is your level of concern?

1027
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: Derek Schultz is our guest, he's on the Java house,

1028
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: peel and poor guest line, What if anything, is your

1029
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: level of concern right now?

1030
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 3: Derek?

1031
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: With concerns the wrong word, but maybe surprise that Purdue

1032
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: and I know that Trey koffin Ren is not there

1033
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: switching to basketball. But the game against Oakland, I think

1034
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: there were a lot of people that thought that that

1035
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: would be one if you're number one in the country,

1036
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,879
Speaker 1: that you get out to a fast start and you're

1037
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: just off and running. And they were thought to be

1038
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: and are still thought to be one of the deepest

1039
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: teams in college basketball. Is there any concern that it

1040
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: has yet to totally take flight for.

1041
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 4: Them, No, because I think you know what people forget

1042
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 4: even though they returned Braden Smith and Fletcher Lawyer and

1043
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 4: Trey Coffin ren who I know hasn't played through the

1044
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 4: first two games, and these guys that have played what

1045
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 4: like one hundred and ten games together, you know, Purdue,

1046
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 4: it's it's not like they're coming off the season where

1047
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 4: they were a Final four team or went to the

1048
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 4: National Championship game, right, I mean last year they didn't

1049
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 4: win the league. Yeah, they went to the second weekend.

1050
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 4: They were able to really kind of salvage a late

1051
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 4: season swoon and get to the Sweet sixteen. But for

1052
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 4: the most part, you know, it wasn't like they were

1053
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 4: a top five or a top ten level team. I mean,

1054
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 4: that was a good team last year, it wasn't a

1055
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 4: great one. So they haven't necessarily gone up there and

1056
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 4: earned anything yet. But I think part of it, too,

1057
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 4: is that people just want to confirm their priors about Perdue.

1058
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know if it's like the fairly

1059
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 4: Dickinson effect of like that's sticking with them or what.

1060
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 4: But anytime Purdue struggles at all. It's like, oh, whoa

1061
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 4: a little struggling again. They won't perdue. Look, they miss

1062
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 4: shots in the first half Ago perdue. They they miss

1063
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 4: shots in the first half that they make in their sleep.

1064
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 4: And if you make your threes early, then that's a

1065
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 4: drastically different game. I don't know even if they were

1066
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 4: even in real danger of actually losing that game. You know,

1067
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 4: Greg Campy has been at Oakland for sixty five years

1068
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 4: or whatever. He knows what he's doing. That was a

1069
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 4: team that was playing with nothing to lose. I'm not

1070
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 4: reading into it too much. They got a really tough

1071
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 4: game in Tuscal loose against an Alabama team that I

1072
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 4: think stylistically is going to and athletically is going to

1073
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 4: present for them some challenges. But once they get run back,

1074
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 4: you know, this is the most talented experience team that

1075
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 4: there is as far as when you talk about the

1076
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 4: guys that have been there, I mean, it's unheard of

1077
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 4: in today's landscape to have three seniors that have played

1078
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 4: one hundred and ten games together and two of whom

1079
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 4: are All Americans and another one is a borderline All

1080
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 4: Conference player. I think by the end of the day,

1081
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 4: Fletcher lawyer will be knocking on the door for that.

1082
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 4: Oscar Kluff has been a great addition. I think ultimately

1083
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 4: they're going to be fine.

1084
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Speaker 1: By the way, earlier we had people calling in with

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Speaker 1: their best turkey impression?

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Speaker 2: Can you do it? Do you do a turkey impression? Whoa?

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Speaker 2: Hold on? Hold on one more time?

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Speaker 6: WHOA?

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Speaker 2: I think they go longer than that, don't they. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, man?

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Speaker 3: What like? Oh?

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Speaker 2: I mean Eddie?

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Speaker 4: I really like Eddie. Right, Eddie texts me and he's like, hey,

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Speaker 4: do you want to come on the show and come

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00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 4: up against my better judgment. I'm like, sure, I'll come

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Speaker 4: on the show if Jake feels like he needs me.

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Speaker 4: I know what you're like before vacation is coming. And

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Speaker 4: for people that don't know that are in the listening

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Speaker 4: audience that that are maybe just new to quiring company.

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Speaker 4: When you know Jake is usually sort of checking out

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Speaker 4: as it is, but especially when he's got a vacation looming,

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Speaker 4: it gets all weird. Those shows right before Jake takes

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Speaker 4: a break are like the weirdest shows. I don't think

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Speaker 4: it's like a turkey and bringing up a bachelor party

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Speaker 4: from fifteen years ago or whatever. Like this is. I

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Speaker 4: should have expected that this was going to be like

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Speaker 4: the line of questioning for the interview today.

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Speaker 1: But I don't think it's asking too much on you know,

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Speaker 1: with Thanksgiving coming up in the drumstick dash to promote

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Speaker 1: it for you you to do a turkey that's more

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Speaker 1: than just like a half a second.

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: Well, look, man, this is your show. It's querying company, right,

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Speaker 4: Query and Schultz is just you know once a week

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Speaker 4: that that's not what this is. So if you say jump,

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Speaker 4: I say how high?

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to do different than any other day

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Speaker 2: to do here, No.

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Speaker 4: I have more creative control over the other show that

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Speaker 4: we do. Give your show.

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Speaker 2: You're in here next week, are you not?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm doing uh. I think I think Rake is

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Speaker 4: doing like seven of the days that you're gone, and

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Speaker 4: I'm doing the ap one.

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Speaker 2: That's different than that's different than life. How you know?

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Speaker 4: The problem is whenever we have the sign up sheet,

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Speaker 4: you know that that kind of goes around. I'm just

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Speaker 4: trying to scribble in Shultz somewhere in between all the

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Speaker 4: Rake R. Greg. So yeah, I think it's I think

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Speaker 4: it's mostly Greg, and we love Greg. I think it's

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Speaker 4: mostly Greg and then I think I'm on Monday.

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Speaker 2: He does do a turkey gobble that's longer than two seconds,

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Speaker 2: just so you know.

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Speaker 4: Oh, he's a profession real broadcaster, way more than me.

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Speaker 2: My man, there we go, Thank you Eddie. All right, Derek, thanks,

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Speaker 2: appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 2: See it. Derek Schultz joining us Java House, Peel and

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Speaker 2: poor guests. I'm