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Speaker 1: I'm Curius listening to the Hammer and Nichel Show.

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Speaker 2: Hello, my name is Nigel Jason Hammer. Right over there

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Speaker 2: with a very special in studio.

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Speaker 3: Guests, Republican candidate for Indiana House District number fifty seven,

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Speaker 3: currently occupied by Representative Craig Haggard. But he is vacating

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Speaker 3: that seat shortly, and Tina Turner wants to take that seat. Now, Tina,

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Speaker 3: I could sit here and make all of the puns,

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Speaker 3: one right after the other, Private dancer, and where's Ike at?

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Speaker 3: But here's the real reality. When I was in middle school,

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Speaker 3: Tina with the last name of Hammer. This is when

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Speaker 3: MC hammer was coming into his fame. It's like when

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Speaker 3: you can't touch this came out and I've heard every

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Speaker 3: single mc hammer joke imaginable. I can only imagine you've

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Speaker 3: heard all of the Tina Turner jokes.

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Speaker 4: I have heard them all. But the best part is there.

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Speaker 1: Remember my name, that's right, That's right?

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and that's what mom's name, by the way.

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Speaker 1: So Tina, yeah, nice, Chris, Tina, are you I'm just

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Speaker 1: a Tina?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Now you're not just a Tina. You are somebody too, right,

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Speaker 2: So give us a little bit of your background.

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Speaker 4: Tina, So, I've been in Indiana over forty years, in

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Speaker 4: Morgan County for thirty years. My husband I raised our

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Speaker 4: family there in Morgan County. I have two adult children.

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Speaker 4: One is still finishing up pre degree. She will get

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Speaker 4: her farm d in May. And my son is a

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Speaker 4: mechanical motorsports engineer.

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Speaker 3: Oh nice, very cool, all right, So with all of

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Speaker 3: this cool stuff going on in your life, why in

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Speaker 3: the hell do you want to get in the mix

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Speaker 3: with the folks at the Indiana State House? Like I'm

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Speaker 3: rooting for you. I want the state to do well.

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Speaker 3: But my goodness, we've got a weak group of Republicans

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 1: Tina.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm a friend with Craig. Our kids actually were

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Speaker 4: in preschool together. Okay, So I've known him for quite

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Speaker 4: a while, over twenty years. And so when he ran

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Speaker 4: the first time in twenty twenty two, that was a

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Speaker 4: bad year for me. That year my husband passed and

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Speaker 4: so because I was thinking about running for that seat

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Speaker 4: when because it was a brand new seat, no incumbent,

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Speaker 4: but it wasn't good timing for me. Sure, So I

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Speaker 4: was a supporter of his from the beginning, and so

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Speaker 4: when he was going to step up to run for Congress.

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Speaker 4: He asked me if I would run. So that's why

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Speaker 4: a minute. I've been about Moreen County politics for many years.

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Speaker 4: I've been a precinct committee member for at least twelve

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Speaker 4: fourteen years. Currently serve as the Morgan County Republican Secretary. Okay,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, so I've worked hard to get Republicans in office,

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Speaker 4: keep them in office, and it's just the right time

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Speaker 4: now in my life to go for the State House.

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Speaker 1: And I respect that absolutely.

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Speaker 3: So I want to get your thoughts on a couple

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Speaker 3: of different big issues that I know our audience is

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Speaker 3: passionate about. We're going to talk about property tax, We're

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Speaker 3: going to talk about making things more affordable in Indiana.

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Speaker 3: But tell me if you agree with this or not,

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Speaker 3: and you can disagree, and that's totally fine too. The

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Speaker 3: biggest problem we have right now in Indiana is we

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Speaker 3: have some not all, but some very weak Republican leaders,

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Speaker 3: people with an R next to their name, that don't

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Speaker 3: really have the values of the people that put them

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Speaker 3: in office.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: That makes sense. It's almost the story of my life

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Speaker 4: in Republican politics.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So how would you handle let's say, Let's say

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Speaker 3: you win.

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Speaker 1: Let's say you get in there.

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Speaker 3: And we had a big property tax rally at the

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Speaker 3: state House. It was covered by every media outlet. It

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Speaker 3: was what the people wanted. And then they come back

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Speaker 3: with this ridiculously bad bill and people are on committees

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Speaker 3: that have financial gain of screwing us but pocketing their pockets.

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Speaker 1: How would you handle situations like that?

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Speaker 4: Well, I was at that rally last year. I met

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Speaker 4: you there last year, and you just have to stay

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Speaker 4: true to your convictions and true to why you're there,

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Speaker 4: to work for the people, not for interest not so special,

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Speaker 4: not for the Republican leadership at the State House, but

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Speaker 4: for the voice of the people. And I know the

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Speaker 4: people are asking for tax relief.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that is the biggest thing that we hear on

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Speaker 3: this show. We could have Donald Trump in studio and

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Speaker 3: people on our YouTube chat ask him about Indiana property

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Speaker 3: taxes like that's like still the biggest issue.

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Speaker 1: What about your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Just overall, I mean, just picking your brain here at

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Speaker 2: this point on redistricting and how I was very disappointed

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Speaker 2: and I was almost flemixed as to why Indiana, especially

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Speaker 2: when you look at what the Democrats have done in

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Speaker 2: other states, your opinions on what should have happened there

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Speaker 2: or here in this state with redistricting.

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Speaker 4: I'm disappointed because Democrats don't mess around. Spanberger just guy elected.

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Speaker 4: They played and they immediately redistrict and knocked out like right.

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Speaker 4: So maybe we wouldn't have gained enough seats to help

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Speaker 4: Trump in them terms, but two seats is two seats,

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Speaker 4: and that's two more seats we'd have in DC versus

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Speaker 4: not absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Why do you think so many Republicans were leary to

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Speaker 3: do it? Because I see in Virginia, like you said,

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Speaker 3: Democrats play for keep. So maybe it's not apples and

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Speaker 3: apples here, but in Virginia they had the opportunity to

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't wait to do it.

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Speaker 3: In a predominantly red state with pockets of blue, but

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Speaker 3: a predominantly red state.

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Speaker 1: Why were so many people scared?

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Speaker 4: I don't think they understand the reality of the world today.

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Speaker 4: Indiana's a really nice place to live. Most people have

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Speaker 4: consertive family values and they live those values, and they

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Speaker 4: just think everything could be hunky dory. But you know,

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Speaker 4: we're not going to have a Republican in the White

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Speaker 4: House forever. We're not going to maybe have control of

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Speaker 4: the House and the Senate. Yeah, at the same time,

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Speaker 4: and when we saw under Biden administration, everything that Trump

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Speaker 4: Did's first term basically just because it was never codified,

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Speaker 4: it was just executive orders. They can just undo executive

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Speaker 4: orders and put their own in and then we're suffering

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Speaker 4: in red states because of policies that we have no

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Speaker 4: control over at the state level.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it was like, we're not going to

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Speaker 1: let JD.

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Speaker 2: Vance and Vice President Vance and Donald Trump push us around.

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Speaker 2: But that wasn't the point of that whole thing with redistricting.

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Speaker 2: It's not them coming in and telling you what to do.

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Speaker 2: It's like, do you see the big picture?

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Speaker 1: And they were just describing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's unfortunate. And you know, I live in Morgan County.

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Speaker 4: You know who my state senator is?

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Speaker 1: Correct, tell us Rod Bray. I didn't want to say

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Speaker 1: his name. That's why I made you say it.

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Speaker 3: So I think everybody that's listening to this program knows

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Speaker 3: how I feel about Rod Bray, and I just hope

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Speaker 3: and pray that at some point this state wakes up

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Speaker 3: and realizes the people you give the power right now

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Speaker 3: in the state of Indiana do not have your best

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Speaker 3: interest at heart, But you are running for House District

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Speaker 3: fifty seven, which is Craig hag seat.

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Speaker 1: Again, he is vacating that.

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Speaker 3: We got about a minute left here, Tina, talk to

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Speaker 3: me about affordability in Indiana Super Bowl weekend, people going

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Speaker 3: to the grocery stores. Unless they've listened to the crazy

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Speaker 3: coupon Lady, they're gonna be paying quite a bit of money.

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Speaker 1: Still, talk to me about affordability.

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Speaker 4: I work for the township trustee and I cover township assistants,

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Speaker 4: and the applications have never been larger in the amount

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Speaker 4: that they are asking for, never greater because it's just

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Speaker 4: so expensive. Utility bills are up, rents are up, and

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Speaker 4: every day hoosiers just don't. Their wages have not kept

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Speaker 4: pace with the costs, the cost to live every day

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Speaker 4: here right.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, Tina, best of luck to you. I can't

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Speaker 3: wait to see how the campaign goes. And again, House

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Speaker 3: District fifty seven, you're one of the folks that has

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Speaker 3: tossed your name into the ring to get that seat

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Speaker 3: being vacated by Rep.

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Speaker 1: Have Haggard. Best of luck, Tina, Thank you for joining us,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you for having me Sammer

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Speaker 1: and Nigel Show