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Speaker 1: Managing conditions like high blood pressure and diabetes.

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Speaker 2: Help us stay strong for the people we love.

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Speaker 1: It's time to reclaim our help. Make an appointment today

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Speaker 3: Slash, call your doctor.

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Speaker 4: And grand Rising Family, if I'm for staring your Tuesday

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Speaker 4: with us This morning of the President General of the

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Speaker 4: Universal African People's Organization will take over our classroom now.

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Speaker 4: Brother Zaqui Buruti reflect on a sixty years of activism

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Speaker 4: that has taken him around the world before Brother Zaki

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Speaker 4: Reparations United. Cam Howard will report on a recent pent

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Speaker 4: African conference in Togo that he attended but momentarily to

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Speaker 4: get a started.

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Speaker 5: Doctor who is he?

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Speaker 4: But first some of the it was making news this

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Speaker 4: morning that we're tracking Russia has warned it's different as

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Speaker 4: to get out of Venezuela. Donald Trump is named a

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Speaker 4: new set of battleships class named for himself, and new

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Speaker 4: polls indicator Democrats hold a big lead going into the

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Speaker 4: twenty two eighty six mid term elections. All right, family,

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Speaker 4: Brand Rising again and welcome to brother Hey Ru, Brother Ru,

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Speaker 4: welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 6: Yes, it's a pleasure to be back.

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Speaker 4: How are you, Carl, I'm still learning, brother, her I'm

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Speaker 4: still learning as we go each and every day. I'm

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Speaker 4: still learning, brother. How about yourself. I'm on top of

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Speaker 4: the world, man. I feel great.

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Speaker 6: We've been getting some great illness reversals. I'm happy to

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Speaker 6: share with you and your audience, you know, and what

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Speaker 6: we do with herbal results is we document these things.

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Speaker 6: So we've been able to do, Carl. Well, we've been

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Speaker 6: able to do, Carl, and I think that your audience

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Speaker 6: has been appreciating this is that, you know, I don't

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Speaker 6: just come on any radio shows or podcasts or TV

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Speaker 6: of what we're saying. So you know, there's different levels

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Speaker 6: of evidence. You know, one level could be scientific studies,

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Speaker 6: so we present that on our website, or what results

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Speaker 6: great resource for people to empower themselves. But we go

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Speaker 6: a step further, and what we do is that we're

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Speaker 6: now we've created a library, Carl, of video interviews and

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Speaker 6: testimonials of people who've achieved illness reversals. And I'm talking

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Speaker 6: about you know, the main killers of our people. That

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Speaker 6: and that will also be diabetes right in America and

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Speaker 6: either high blood pressure or diabetes. And then you know

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Speaker 6: have this deadly series of illnesses that the medical establishment

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Speaker 6: is having a hard time solving. What we've been doing, Carl,

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Speaker 6: and again I know that your audience appreciates this, is

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Speaker 6: that we literally are able to get these testimonials to

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Speaker 6: create our own library of results so that people can

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Speaker 6: actually watch and listen and learn from the stories of

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Speaker 6: people who were once very very sick, some given sixty

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Speaker 6: days to live, ninety days to live. And we've been

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Speaker 6: able to get reversals at herbal results. So since I've

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Speaker 6: on a few months ago, you know, we've gotten several

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Speaker 6: being healed from high blood pressure. What we mean by

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Speaker 6: healed is no, there's no pharmaceutical medication. People who used

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Speaker 6: So you know, I just wanted to lay the table

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, hold up thought right day, doctor here, and

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Speaker 4: for the folks who are just waking up four minutes

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Speaker 4: after top there, I guess he's a doctor Herow. Doctor

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Speaker 4: Harow has protocols, different protocols, so dealing with different issues,

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Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no, no, no, it's not. No, this is

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Speaker 6: And so we can start with whatever you want to

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Speaker 4: All right, let's start with high blood pressure hypertension, because

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Speaker 6: Well, in our community with the foods that we eat,

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Speaker 6: And whenever I talk, I'd like to empower people. I

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Speaker 6: And research has never become easier as it is now

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Speaker 6: how to research the side effects of the medication that

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Speaker 4: Hold on, go right there, Hold up, go right there.

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Speaker 4: Ten after the top the family, we have Nindropadic doctor

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Speaker 4: Heru with us this morning. You've got a health challenge

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Speaker 4: Doctor Heru, you said, part of the problem is that

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Speaker 4: it comes from our diet. Could one change their diet

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Speaker 6: Yes, problem, absolutely, So let's talk about the dietary aspect

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Speaker 6: find out carl Is, is that the cause of these

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Speaker 6: I guess what happens when you eat inflammatory foods? Well,

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Speaker 8: And Grand Rising. Thank family, and thanks for waking up

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Speaker 8: Doctor hero is an atropathic doctor, Doctor Rue. I'll let

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Speaker 6: Yeah. So yeah, we've been able to get great results

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Speaker 8: Then twenty four after the top of a family, you

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Speaker 6: main ingredients the immune system needs is vitamin D three

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Speaker 6: plus K two, magnesium, zinc, and selenium. And as a

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Speaker 6: matter of fact, almost all cancer patients, people with diabetes

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Speaker 6: and high blood pressure are deficient in those things. They're

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Speaker 6: deficient in vitamin D three plus K two, they're deficient

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Speaker 6: in magnesium, zinc, insolenium. So what we're doing is that

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Speaker 6: we're reverse engineering all of that.

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Speaker 5: So if you're right there, brother.

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Speaker 8: Chop, they have a question for you. Know, after they've

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Speaker 8: done this and the cancers reversal, do they have to

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Speaker 8: continue taking these products or is it a while I'm done,

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Speaker 8: I'm out and I'm good.

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Speaker 6: No, So they remember that this is a lifestyle change

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Speaker 6: and these are supplements, so this is not medicine. What

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Speaker 6: you're doing is that you're supplementing nutrition for your body,

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Speaker 6: particularly with the vitamin D three plus K two, magnesium, whatever.

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Speaker 6: You don't have to take the same level in terms

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Speaker 6: of three times per day, but they'll take maintenance dosages

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Speaker 6: just so that their body will still have it. Because remember,

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Speaker 6: we used to get full magnesium from our food sources,

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Speaker 6: zinc and slenium from our food sources, vegetables, fruits growing

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Speaker 6: from great soil. But the top soil in America through

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Speaker 6: factory farming and corporate farming, has been depleted, so we're

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Speaker 6: not getting the magnesium we need to get from the

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Speaker 6: food that we're eating. We're not getting the minerals that

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Speaker 6: we need to get from the food that we're eating.

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Speaker 6: So you have to supplement with these minerals. And so

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Speaker 6: we create these minerals for people to take, and so

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Speaker 6: it becomes a lifetime. Me and myself, I'm not sick

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Speaker 6: with anything, but I take, you know, our magnesiums and

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Speaker 6: selenium every day. I take vitamin D three plus K

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Speaker 6: two every day and keep my body in optimum shape

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Speaker 6: with the nutrients that my body needs that you know,

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Speaker 6: you're just not getting from the food sources that we

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Speaker 6: have out here. So it's a lifestyle approach. It's almost

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Speaker 6: like do I have to stop exercising, you know, No,

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Speaker 6: this is what's good for the body, and so you

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Speaker 6: should make this a part of the food that you eat.

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Speaker 6: So I mean, don't look at it as even supplements.

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Speaker 6: Just look at it as part of your dietary intake.

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Speaker 6: And that's why they call it dietary supplements.

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Speaker 8: All right, Well, that sorry, Then Mark wants to join

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Speaker 8: a conversation family waking up just joining us, I guess

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Speaker 8: it is doctor Hero. Doctor Herou is a naturopathic doctor

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Speaker 8: and he deals with all sort of maladies, but specifies

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Speaker 8: in cancer reversal and diabetes, high blood pressure, kidney issues

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Speaker 8: as well. If you've got any of those problems or

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Speaker 8: you know someone who does, reach out to us at

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Speaker 8: eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six,

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Speaker 8: Mark Grand Rising, you're around with doctor Heroud.

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Speaker 9: Yes, good morning, very excited about here about these different

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Speaker 9: approaches to you know, a doctor of prescription medicine to

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Speaker 9: take care of all these problems. My question is, I'm

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Speaker 9: a senior with limited income and you talk about all

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Speaker 9: these terrible products. Are they recently priced but some in

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Speaker 9: their otc oh in it? And is there any insurance

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Speaker 9: that we'll pay for any of these products? I just

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Speaker 9: need to know because remember, we can't afford all these

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Speaker 9: if you don't have income, soose coming in. I really

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Speaker 9: cannot afford all these supplements that you're talking about to

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Speaker 9: take care of various problems. So what is the best

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Speaker 9: approach mon money wise to attain products and use it

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Speaker 9: on a regular basis? Thank you, Yes, that's a great question.

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Speaker 9: So well, for instance, just talk about cancer. I've had

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Speaker 9: family members who can have cancer and been in the

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Speaker 9: cancer ward.

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Speaker 6: You find out that for one month's day treatment, people

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Speaker 6: being charged over one hundred thousand dollars for treatment in

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Speaker 6: one month, and what your caller, the caller, what I

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Speaker 6: would ask you to do? And this is going to

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Speaker 6: be answered in a very it's going to be answered

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Speaker 6: in a very subtinct way. I would want you to

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Speaker 6: go to an interview that we have with a medical

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Speaker 6: doctor who had stage four lung cancer. Name is doctor

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Speaker 6: Kenneth Nave. He's on my website and he went ahead

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Speaker 6: and used anti parasitics and all he's extract and he's

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Speaker 6: no longer with cancer. He's cancer free. This is a

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Speaker 6: gentleman who has stage four lung cancer. He's a doctor

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Speaker 6: of Eternal Medicine out of Chicago, and he did anti

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Speaker 6: parasitics for four months and the cancer was reversed. He

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Speaker 6: took dollars ef extract amongst a couple other natural anti parasitics.

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Speaker 6: At the end of our interview, and it's on our

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Speaker 6: website testimonials, you could just scroll down and see doctor

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Speaker 6: Kenneth nowve stage four lung cancer spread to his bones

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Speaker 6: and he had eight brain tumors as well. It was

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Speaker 6: reversed in four months, and at the end of the

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Speaker 6: interview we talked about the anti parasitics he used and

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Speaker 6: how much it cost, and at the end of it

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Speaker 6: we calculated that it was under three hundred dollars. Right,

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Speaker 6: So here's a medical doctor who was able to reverse

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Speaker 6: his stage four cancer that had metastasized throughout his body

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Speaker 6: to his brain, from his lungs to his brain and

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Speaker 6: cost three hundred dollars. So now let's talk about the

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Speaker 6: Alsi's extract. We have two versions. We have a sixty

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Speaker 6: five dollars bottle and a forty dollars bottle. So compare

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Speaker 6: that to the pharmaceutical industry, which they're charging over one

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Speaker 6: thousand dollars for until sometimes your insurance will pay it off.

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Speaker 6: But now they have things called copays and deductibles and

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Speaker 6: all that. So you're coming out of pocket several thousands

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Speaker 6: of dollars. And so I would say that there's nobody,

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Speaker 6: there's really nobody who's gotten reversals with us, who's spent

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Speaker 6: over one thousand dollars on any of the products. And

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Speaker 6: so what that means is that, so you're taking all

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Speaker 6: of these extract bottles, Let's say you're taking the maximum strength.

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Speaker 6: Let's say two bottles will last you for one month. Well,

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Speaker 6: that's sixty five dollars times three, that's one hundred and

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Speaker 6: thirty dollars. You might get the magnesium product as well

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Speaker 6: as in kinsilenium product which is all in one capsule

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Speaker 6: that's thirty dollars. And then you do vitamin D is

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Speaker 6: an thirty dollars, and so all of these are lasting

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Speaker 6: for a month. And so let's just say it takes

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Speaker 6: three to four months to reverse your situation. You do

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Speaker 6: the math, and you know you're not talking about anything

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Speaker 6: close to even five hundred dollars.

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 6: I think that this is a great value proposition. You know,

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Speaker 6: if you could reverse your high blood pressure, your diabetes,

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Speaker 6: and your cancer under five hundred dollars, would you do that?

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Speaker 6: That's the question. Yeah, then we've been able to prove that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, at twenty five, Away from the topic a doctor

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Speaker 8: heru because now we're coming to the end of the

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Speaker 8: year and those folks who use Obamacare is you know,

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Speaker 8: it's not going to be renewed, so health costs are

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Speaker 8: going to skyrocket. So if you really have a health challenge,

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Speaker 8: and if you're looking at on the money scale, this

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Speaker 8: is the time to really talk to doctor herew because

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Speaker 8: starting next year is going to cost you quite a

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Speaker 8: bit more to pay for your healthcare. Twenty four minutes

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Speaker 8: away from the top of now, Mark in Houston is

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Speaker 8: joined us. He has a question for doctor her grand

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Speaker 8: rise in market around with doctor Hero.

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Speaker 10: Well, great riding, my brother's how y'all doing this morning?

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Speaker 10: Y'all doing all right this morning?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're on top of the world.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 10: Okay, quick question. I want to make sure that you

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Speaker 10: said that DK. Is it DK or that DK?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Vitamin D three plus K two. So what's important about

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Speaker 6: that is that your D vitamin D three, which is

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Speaker 6: people just call it vitamin D. Okay, okay. Now, K

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Speaker 6: two is also another vitamin that should be added with

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Speaker 6: vitamin D three. And the reason is that vitamin D

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Speaker 6: is usually what you get from the sun. Well, most

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Speaker 6: people are not out in the sun, and then during

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Speaker 6: the winter months, people are not out in the sun

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Speaker 6: because there's not a lot of sunlight. It gets dark

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Speaker 6: very early and it's very cold, so people aren't out

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Speaker 6: like they need to be. But your vitamin D levels

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Speaker 6: go down, and vitamin D is d main nutrient for

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Speaker 6: the immune system. So now you've got people with depressed

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Speaker 6: immune systems, and so that's why during the cold seasons

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Speaker 6: you have the highest incidence of death of all causes,

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Speaker 6: because people's immune systems are completely depleted during the months

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Speaker 6: of December, January, and February, and so vitamin D supplementation

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Speaker 6: is very important. The problem is is that vitamin D

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Speaker 6: at times can cause excess calcium. That calcium needs to

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Speaker 6: find somewhere to go, and it turns out that vitamin

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Speaker 6: K two delivers calcium that's excess in the blood directly

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Speaker 6: to where it needs to go, which is your bones.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes the calcium can go into your kidneys where you

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Speaker 6: get kidney stones. And so to prevent that from happening,

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Speaker 6: which is called hyper calcemia, you take vitamin K two.

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Speaker 6: It solved the problem. Delivers the calcium directly to the bone.

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Speaker 6: So all vitamin D products should be coupled with vitamin

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Speaker 6: K two.

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Speaker 8: So we get I thought right there, we got to

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Speaker 8: step aside and checking the latest news mark on it.

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Speaker 8: I know you have a follow up question to stay

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Speaker 8: with us as well. Eight hundred four five zero seventy

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Speaker 8: eight seventy six numbers the call speak to doctor Hrui's

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Speaker 8: anthropadic doctor. You've got some you've got some issues. We

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Speaker 8: have a cancer, high blood pressure, kidney prolemse. Reach out

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Speaker 8: to us and we'll take your phone calls after the news.

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Speaker 8: That's next.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen fifty wol.

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Speaker 11: Good morning, folks on Earl Kirk. Here's the latest from

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Speaker 11: newswe dot com. The holiday travel season is on.

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Speaker 12: According to Triple A's projections, over one hundred twenty two

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Speaker 12: two point two percent increase from last year, with a

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Speaker 12: travel via bus, train, or cruise ship. A Markneyfield, a.

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Speaker 11: Maryland judge, will not let the federal government take Kilmar

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Speaker 11: Abrego Garcia into custody during the holidays. The judge extended

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Speaker 11: She gave the DOJ until Friday to submit a plan

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Speaker 11: Twenty six year old Camelle Hay was sentenced on Monday.

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Speaker 11: State seventy two to forty seven. I'm Earl Kirk. When

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Speaker 2: Now back to the Carl Nelson Show.

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Speaker 8: And Grand Rising Family. Thanks for waking up with us

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Speaker 8: on this Tuesday morning. And I guess there's a doctor Heru.

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Speaker 8: Doctor Heru is a natopanic doctor and it steals it

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Speaker 8: specialists that really affecting our community. We talked about dementia,

653
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Speaker 8: we talked about kidney problems, hypertension, and also cancer. He's

654
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Speaker 8: got a protocol that reverses all of these maladies. So

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Speaker 8: if you know someone or you are going through these challenges,

656
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Speaker 8: reach out to us right now at eight hundred and

657
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Speaker 8: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six before we

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Speaker 8: go back to Mark in Houston.

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Speaker 5: Though, let me just remind you come up. Later this morning.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna speak with the President General of the Universal

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Speaker 8: African People's Organization every one Brother Zaki Burudi four Brother

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Speaker 8: Zaki Though Reparations United. Cam Howard is going to join us.

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Speaker 8: And later this week we'ren hear from clinical psychologist doctor

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Speaker 8: Jeromee Fox and also quans of creator. Doctor Milana Karring

665
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Speaker 8: is all going to be here. So if you're in Baltimore,

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Speaker 8: make sure to keep you ready, locked and tight on

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Speaker 8: ten ten WLB or a friend the DMV, the Washington

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Speaker 8: DC METROC Balston area. It's fourteen fifty w L. All right,

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Speaker 8: mark your follow up question for doctor Herrow.

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Speaker 10: Yes, sir, I hear everybody coming on. I want to

671
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Speaker 10: ask you a question. I know you talk about Alise,

672
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Speaker 10: but have you heard of the polsy? A lot of

673
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Speaker 10: people don't want to talk about it, but did you

674
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Speaker 10: know anything that helps that the polsy? Have you ever

675
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 10: heard of that before?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? I have.

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Speaker 6: I have heard of Bell's policy. And there were a

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Speaker 6: lot of people who were taking in some of these

679
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Speaker 6: COVID vaccines and they were getting Bell's palsy. So or

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Speaker 6: is this do you know that the person that Bell's

681
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Speaker 6: palsy was it after they took a COVID vaccine or

682
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Speaker 6: is it something they've had all their life?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, after they took to COVID.

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Speaker 6: Yes, where it bats to a certain certain paralysis of

686
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 6: the face, right, yeah, yeah, Okay, So what you're going

687
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 6: to do is you're going to do a detox of

688
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 6: the spike proteins. And what you'd have to do is

689
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Speaker 6: you have to email me and I can give you

690
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 6: the full detox program. I'll just tell you exactly what

691
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 6: it is. I'll list the things in the email, and

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Speaker 6: you know, me just reciting it over the phone right

693
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Speaker 6: now or over the radio show right now, You're not

694
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Speaker 6: going to remember everything. But it's a combination of uh,

695
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Speaker 6: it's just basically a combination of natal kinase, brahma lane

696
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 6: out of leaf extract and one or two other things.

697
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Speaker 6: And you're going to take that for about thirty days

698
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Speaker 6: to detox the spike protein from the shops. But feel

699
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Speaker 6: free to email us at herbal results dot net and

700
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Speaker 6: for ad Erbal Results dot net and I'll give you

701
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Speaker 6: a full list of what you need to do.

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Speaker 10: Okay, okay, Can I get it?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Can I get it from the gap? Can I call

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Speaker 10: back and get it from the gall They put me

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Speaker 10: a whole I can give you. I want to make

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Speaker 10: sure I write it down. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you have to.

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Speaker 6: It's very easy. It's just info at herbal results dot

711
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 6: net or just go to Herbal results dot net and

712
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 6: go to the contact page and just email me there

713
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 6: and I'll give you the full program of what you

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Speaker 6: need to do.

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Speaker 10: Okay, okay, all right, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Thanks right.

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Speaker 8: Speaking about the spike protein and many folks took the

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00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 8: jab doctor Herrow and and we see a lot of

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Speaker 8: people coming down with dementia and all those kind of issues.

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Speaker 5: Is there a relationship to that? Is that why we

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Speaker 5: see folks? You know? I guess yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean the research has come out, like you know,

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Speaker 6: I talked about it extensively. I've even come on your

724
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 6: show and talked about it and pointing people to the research.

725
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 6: But you know the key is now detoxification from you know,

726
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Speaker 6: what was injected into people causing these spike proteins, which

727
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 6: then ends up causing a lot of neurological problems, a

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Speaker 6: lot of heart problems around mildcart ditists and what have you.

729
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 6: And you're seeing what you'd call turbo cancers, people who

730
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 6: took these shots and all of a sudden, now their

731
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 6: immune system isn't paired and you've got runaway cancer where

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Speaker 6: the mune system to move usually with health these things

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Speaker 6: at bay. So yeah, we have a serious problem, and

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Speaker 6: you know people should detox from it.

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Speaker 3: If they can.

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Speaker 6: And you know, people can email us at Urban Results

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Speaker 6: and we you know, we don't charge people to talk

738
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Speaker 6: to people, and people can just ask us, you know,

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Speaker 6: do you have a you know, the detox regiment, and

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Speaker 6: I'll just you know, basically copy and paste the regimen

741
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 6: where my team will and just send you to email

742
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 6: and give you the links to the things that you

743
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 6: need to get to start your detox from these jobs,

744
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 6: because it's a very serious and it's a great question

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00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 6: that you asked, because it's a problem that I see

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Speaker 6: almost every day.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we got questions about that all the time here

748
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Speaker 8: as well. Ten away from the top, I got a

749
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Speaker 8: tweet I wanted to know I have been diagnosed with

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Speaker 8: stage three chronic kidney issues.

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Speaker 5: Can that be reversed?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 6: It can. Nine times out of ten people chronic kidney

754
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Speaker 6: issues are on high blood pressure medication. So first thing

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Speaker 6: I ask people is if they're on high blood pressure medication.

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Speaker 6: The answer is yes, then we have a great chance

757
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 6: of reversing your kidney problem because the problem is not

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00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 6: that you've naturally got kidney disease. The problem is is

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Speaker 6: that you're taking medications for your high blood pressure, whose

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00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 6: side effects is kidney failure. So what we do from

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00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 6: a first principles of approaches, we solve your high blood

762
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 6: pressure problem first. So we solve your high blood pressure

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00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 6: problem by changing your diet, taking anti inflammatory herbs, and

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Speaker 6: then taking nutrients that your body needs. And what a

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Speaker 6: lot of people don't know, one of the great causes

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Speaker 6: of high blood pressure is magnesium deficiency. The magnesium is

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Speaker 6: a relax and it actually relaxes the arteries. And when

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00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 6: the arteries can't get relaxed, your arteries are constricted. They're

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00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 6: either constricted or relaxed. And that's actually how the arteries

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00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 6: push blood through your body. That the arteries constrict and relax.

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Speaker 6: But if you don't have enough magnesium, the arteries are

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Speaker 6: not able to relax properly, so then your arteries are

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Speaker 6: actually constricted more. And that's therefore you have a constriction

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Speaker 6: of the flow of the blood and the blood has

775
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 6: to pump at a higher pressure. Well, you give people magnesium supplementation,

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00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, now you start to see blood

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00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 6: pressure get reversed. You give people anti inflammatory herbs, like

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00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 6: all of these extracts, the inflammation goes away. You stopped

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00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 6: eating the sugar and the refined carbohydrates and the trash

780
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 6: vegetable seed oils, and all of a sudden, now your

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00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 6: heart disease no longer exists. And so this is how

782
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 6: we solve that problem, to get people off of these

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Speaker 6: pharmaceuticals which have toxic side effects, and we do it

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Speaker 6: in a safe way by checking your blood pressure every

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00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 6: single day and make sure that the approach is working.

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Speaker 6: If it's working, you keep on doing it. Then you

787
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 6: start to see that the kidney problems start to heal itself.

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Speaker 6: The reason why I can talk about this authoritatively it

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Speaker 6: happened to my uncle. My uncle was being pushed to dialysis,

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Speaker 6: and he'd been on dialysis for about five years, Carl.

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Speaker 6: And what a lot of people don't know is that

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Speaker 6: many people on dialysis, a great percentage of people on

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00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 6: dialysis cannot urinate. Their kidneys no longer work, so they

794
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 6: cannot urinate, like literally, they can't urinate, Carl. So my

795
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 6: uncle had urinated for five years, and he came to

796
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 6: me told me about his problem, and I asked him,

797
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 6: the first thing, are you on high blood pressure medication?

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Speaker 6: Of course, he said, yes, I've been on blood pressure

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00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 6: medication for twenty to thirty years. So we solve this

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00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 6: blood pressure problem without pharmaceuticals. His blood pressure was normalized

801
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 6: with the olive these extract changing his diet. He cut

802
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 6: out the sugars, lo and behold, Carl. Within four days,

803
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 6: my uncle was able to earnate and he had urinated

804
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 6: in five years. Okay, so this is this is all

805
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 6: serious stuff. And it was because he was able to

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00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 6: discontinue the high blood pressure medication in a safe way

807
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 6: because we controlled it with the olive effects tract and

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00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 6: his diet.

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Speaker 8: This though, brother here, did he have an issue? You

810
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 8: know what what? I guess he's got a medical doctor.

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Speaker 8: He's been diagnosed. So does he go and tell doctor?

812
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 8: So does he tell me, I'm not going to take

813
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 8: that your pharmaceuticals anymore. My my nephew's got a protocolist

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Speaker 8: that's going to work.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna turn You didn't tell him anything.

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Speaker 6: This He's been dealing with them for twenty thirty years

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00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 6: and his situation got worse.

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Speaker 4: I got you because reluctant turn off with kidney failure.

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Speaker 6: Carl. He started off with high blood pressure, but through

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Speaker 6: the years of taking these medications, Center pro Loser ten.

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Speaker 6: Guess what happened his kidney's deteriorated as a side effect

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Speaker 6: of the medications. So here you start with one problem,

823
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 6: now you've got two. So what happened was is that

824
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 6: he saw that this is going nowhere. He's been on

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00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 6: dialysis for five years. He hadn't urinated in five years,

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Speaker 6: so he wanted to try something different because he heard

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Speaker 6: about the work that I was doing. And literally within

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Speaker 6: four days of him discontinuing the medication taking Olivele's extract,

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Speaker 6: he was able to urinate for the first time in

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Speaker 6: five years. So this is very important. I mean, we

831
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Speaker 6: have these stories. We have pastor Benjamin Mays out of Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: He told the story of his brother in law. And

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Speaker 6: we just had a conference a couple of months ago.

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Speaker 6: It's called Eradicate Conference. I covered the high blood pressure,

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Speaker 6: diabetes and cancer. I think I even came on your

836
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 6: show to talk about this conference. Well, there's a very

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Speaker 6: well known pastor in the Atlanta area, Benjamin Mays, and

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Speaker 6: he came and talked about his brother in law who

839
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 6: had kidney failure, was sent to the hospital. He's in

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Speaker 6: the ICU.

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Speaker 7: Benjamin May.

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Speaker 6: Pastor Mays brings him a bottle of the Olili's extract.

843
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 6: He drank the Oliveleys extract. He actually drank the whole bottle.

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Speaker 6: You know, he didn't know that he was supposed to take,

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Speaker 6: you know, three tablespoons at the most, but he drank

846
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Speaker 6: the whole bottle and one night and by the next

847
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 6: morning they released him because his kidneys had all of

848
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 6: a sudden, you know, healed. And that was in one day.

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Speaker 6: And these are just stories that we get, and you know,

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00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 6: I document them as well as I can, but I

851
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 6: just tell people, think, you know, consider the approach, try

852
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 6: it and see what happens. And we've been getting these results.

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00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 6: And that's what we documented our testimonials page, and our

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00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 6: testimonials page is not written testimonials, their video interviews with

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00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 6: real people telling you exactly what happened to them in

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Speaker 6: terms of dealing with the medical system for twenty years.

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Speaker 8: Folks are jumping on that. I got questions for you.

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Speaker 8: I don't to cut you off, though, doctor. Let's go

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Speaker 8: to Supreme Conference Baltimore. Yes, question for each online too,

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Speaker 8: grand Rise and Supremer. Question for doctor Hero Please.

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Speaker 13: I wanted to ask if you don't have any knowledge

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Speaker 13: or understanding of the heavy metals that are work contained

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Speaker 13: or that often taine's in the vaccines. And also when

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Speaker 13: you were talking about the healing process, how important can

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Speaker 13: you touch on how important they the mind leading the

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Speaker 13: energy of the chief is to health and benefit to

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Speaker 13: each one of us. And also, uh, could you talk

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Speaker 13: about how the mouth is the first source of disease?

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Speaker 13: Thank you?

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Speaker 5: All right? Thank you?

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Speaker 8: And doctor holdethor right. Then we got to check the

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Speaker 8: traffic and we in our different cities. I don't want

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Speaker 8: to get you started then I have to interrupt you then,

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Speaker 8: so I'll let you respond to supreme questions. Also, Cobina

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Speaker 8: in Northeast DC has a question for you about prostate issues.

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Speaker 8: Family YouTube can join us at eight hundred and four

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Speaker 8: five zero seventy eight seventy six. You speak to doctor Henry.

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Speaker 8: We'll take your phone calls after we check the traffic

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Speaker 8: and wear them une different cities.

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Speaker 5: That's next.

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Speaker 14: Let's start around the Capitol Belway where delays are increasing

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Speaker 14: heading to the Woodrow Wilson Bridge this morning. We're stopping

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Speaker 14: go near Saint Barnabas Road and a loop to the

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Speaker 14: bridge ban into Silver Spring. Those out a loop slowdowns

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Speaker 14: from ninety five rounded Georgia Avenue, Baltimore Washington Parkway. If

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Speaker 14: you're leaving Greenbelt going northbound. We have a crash north

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Speaker 14: of one ninety seven in Laurel and that's giving us

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Speaker 14: delays now before Powdermill Road heading through the district. Long

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Speaker 14: standing crash clean up ongoing DC two ninety five southbound

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Speaker 14: at East Capitol Street, right as you merge out of Chevroley.

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Speaker 14: That's where I'm tracking those backups. Right off of the

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Speaker 14: merge from fifty and the b W Parkway inbound New

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Speaker 14: York Avenue, if you take that lining up to the

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Speaker 14: light of Bladensburg Road and before Florida Avenue off and

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Speaker 14: on two the third Street tunnel. Now look at your forecast.

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Speaker 14: Breezy this morning with a shower in spots, Otherwise this

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Speaker 14: afternoon cloudy with a high of fifty one. Tonight's low

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Speaker 14: thirty nine, current temperature forty degrees. I'm Jamie Witten for

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Speaker 8: It's a hero doctor. Hero is a natural pratic doctor.

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Speaker 8: Before we left there, you have a bunch of questions

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Speaker 8: from Supreme calls from Baltimore. So doctor, Heyru, I'll let

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Speaker 8: you respond to Brother Supremes questions. He's hello, Yeah, you're

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Speaker 8: here on the air.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So we're talking about the heavy metals in these vaccines.

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Speaker 6: And so here's what people can do is just put in, uh,

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Speaker 6: go to Google and put in vaccine ingredients. When you

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Speaker 6: go to Google and you put in vaccine ingredients list,

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Speaker 6: just croll down and you'll see Appendix B Vaccines Pink Books,

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Speaker 6: and you'll see Appendix B for the Pink Book Vaccine

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Speaker 6: Excipient Summary, an ingredients list for vaccines. You'll see that,

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Speaker 6: and you click that, and what you'll see is that

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Speaker 6: the overwhelming amount of these vaccines that they're giving people

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Speaker 6: from birth till death has two main heavy metals. One

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Speaker 6: is aluminum and number two is mercury, which they call

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Speaker 6: di mirasol okay, So people being injected into their bloodstream

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Speaker 6: with aluminum and mercury. These are all things that are

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Speaker 6: toxic to the body, particularly the brain, and so the

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Speaker 6: question now becomes, well, how do we get rid of

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Speaker 6: these things if we've already taken these shots. Well, fortunately

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Speaker 6: at ourbal Results, we've created something that removes heavy metals

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Speaker 6: from the body, and that is our product called Maringa lantro.

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Speaker 6: What maringa lantro is that it is a combination of

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Speaker 6: maringa and cilantro, soilantro removes heavy metals from the body

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Speaker 6: very well. People can look it up cilantro and heavy metals.

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Speaker 6: So we've created that product part precisely for removing heavy

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Speaker 6: metals from the body, amongst other things. So if you've

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Speaker 6: taken any of these vaccines, it would be very good

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Speaker 6: if you get the marine glantro or you get cilantroal

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Speaker 6: from somewhere. If you don't want to get from herbal results,

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Speaker 6: that's fine, but you will take the cilantro and you

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Speaker 6: could try to make it into a powder and then

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Speaker 6: you can add it to your food. And what it

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Speaker 6: does is that it cleaves heavy metals and removes the

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Speaker 6: heavy metals through your urine. So it is very important.

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Speaker 6: So you'll see also in these vaccine ingredients list, you

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Speaker 6: will also see famaldehyde in many of these vaccines. And

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Speaker 6: so these things that they have in the vaccines they

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Speaker 6: call adjuvants. These adjuvants are supposed to be preservatives to

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Speaker 6: the vaccine, and these preservatives are causing toxic effects and

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Speaker 6: effects in the body. And people could just look it up.

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Speaker 6: So I don't like to just give people blanket answers

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Speaker 6: without showing you how you can research it. So please

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Speaker 6: just put in vaccine ingredients list and you will see

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Speaker 6: appendix B pin book for vaccine ingredients and just click

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Speaker 6: it and you'll see how many heavy metals are in.

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Speaker 6: You know, almost all these vaccines have some type of

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Speaker 6: heavy metals from aldehydeing them. It's crazy. And so that's

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Speaker 6: the answer to his question. The second question about the mind.

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Speaker 6: The mind is very important because you have to make

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Speaker 6: up your mind that you want to be healthy. You

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Speaker 6: want to make up your mind that you actually want

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Speaker 6: to learn the fundamentals of health. And what I've seen

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Speaker 6: a herbal results. At least the people that we've dealt

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Speaker 6: with urbo results, they've had great transformations because we've been

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Speaker 6: able to explain to people and educate people what the

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Speaker 6: true causes of these illnesses are. Once people understand it

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Speaker 6: from a basic level, they're able to change the activities

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Speaker 6: of their behavior. Right now, most people think that the

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Speaker 6: way you saw sicknesses is by popping a pill, and

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Speaker 6: that is not the case because you know, many of

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Speaker 6: us know so many people who have a panel of

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Speaker 6: pharmaceutical pills that they have to take every day, and

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Speaker 6: they told they have to take it for the rest

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Speaker 6: of their lives, and they don't even know what the

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Speaker 6: side effects of their medication is.

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Speaker 8: So I thought, right there, doctor Herod, because we've got

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Speaker 8: a next guest cam, howis on deck? Before I go

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Speaker 8: to cam?

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Speaker 15: Uh?

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Speaker 8: Corbinas calling us from Northeast DC has a question for

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Speaker 8: you online too, Grand Rise in Corbina. You're on with

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Speaker 8: doctor herew.

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Speaker 3: Grand Rising, brother Kasey, doctor Heru and the radio one

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Speaker 3: listening audience.

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Speaker 18: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Two separate examples of quickly for myself UH to ask

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Speaker 3: you is uh related to prostate cancer? Uh?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 3: The water diet, the water fast. What does that consist of?

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Speaker 3: Quickly when you do the because you say you probably

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Speaker 3: need to do that before you do the olive leaf extract,

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Speaker 3: so the water and then I had one of the

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Speaker 3: more important go ahead, sir, Sorry.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, So you would do the olive these extract

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Speaker 6: first for one week just to clear your gut of

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Speaker 6: any type of parasites that might be there would make

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Speaker 6: that would make the fasting difficult. So then after one

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Speaker 6: week of using the alvis extract, you don't use anything

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Speaker 6: anymore because you're going to do a water fast. The

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Speaker 6: water fast is going to be water. And what I

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Speaker 6: do is I do a water fast every three months, right,

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Speaker 6: I do a three to four day water fast every

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Speaker 6: three months just to reset my body, keeps you young,

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Speaker 6: cleanses your body. You get into a state of called

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Speaker 6: autophagy where your body cleans up all of the malfunctioning

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Speaker 6: and precantra cells in your body. You get a whole

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Speaker 6: new immune system reset after three days of fasting. So

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Speaker 6: it's very important. And it just consists of me squeezing

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Speaker 6: fresh lime into the water, drinking that, and then if

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Speaker 6: you start to feel weak, you're not weak because of

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Speaker 6: lack of food. You're weak because of a lack of electrolytes.

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Speaker 6: And the way you solve that is you would take

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Speaker 6: a fourth of a tea spoon of sea salt and

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Speaker 6: you mix it into your water and you drink it

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Speaker 6: and it energizes you, remineralizes you, and you get the

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Speaker 6: the electrolytes back and you can get through your fast.

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Speaker 6: Many people who do this get a whole new lease

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Speaker 6: on life. And a lot of people don't tell you

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Speaker 6: about fasting because guess what, fasting is free, so people

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Speaker 6: can't make money off of you from fasting. You actually

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Speaker 6: save money from fasting. So a lot of people are

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Speaker 6: not told about fasting. But fasting is one of the

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Speaker 6: lynch pins and one of the pillars of health, so

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Speaker 6: very important. So you do the three day fast that way,

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Speaker 6: and then you start the olive leaf extract and you

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Speaker 6: start taking the immune system fortification things like the vitamin

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Speaker 6: D three plus K two and also the magnesiums and cansilenium. Okay,

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Speaker 6: real quick.

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Speaker 3: So the waterfast comes before the olive leaf.

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Speaker 6: Track, No extract comes first for one week, and then

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Speaker 6: you do the water fast and then you continue the

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Speaker 6: olive effextract.

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Speaker 18: Okay, and so that's all water, nothing but water for

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Speaker 18: three days. Yeah, nothing but water, and you can put

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Speaker 18: fresh pleeze line in there for three days.

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Speaker 19: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 6: And more important question this doesn't apply to me.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: If someone that pays prostate cancer and has spread to

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Speaker 3: the bones and they've already been trinking radiation, can you

1045
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Speaker 3: does that affect anything once you've already been taken radiation?

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Speaker 6: Can your product steel for someone to say? Yes? Yes,

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Speaker 6: We've dealt with people who've taken no radiation, no chemo,

1048
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Speaker 6: no surgery, and they've gotten reversals. And we've dealt with

1049
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Speaker 6: people who've done chemoon radiation and done our protocol and

1050
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Speaker 6: gotten results as well. So if you want to know more,

1051
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Speaker 6: and if you want to know more, because I see

1052
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Speaker 6: you're asking about prostate cancer, if you want to know more,

1053
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Speaker 6: please go to our website and you go to our

1054
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Speaker 6: testimonials page. We have actually a very recent just this week,

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Speaker 6: we have a prostate cancer reversal, full reversal, no cancer

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Speaker 6: at all, and that's an eighty year old man out

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Speaker 6: of Atlanta and his name is Peter Williams, and just

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Speaker 6: press play and listen to his interview. And before that,

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Speaker 6: we have another brother called Rodney Merriweather just about a

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Speaker 6: month ago. Two months ago he contacted me and he

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Speaker 6: has a full versal as well. So we have many

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Speaker 6: different outic cancer reversal testimonials on our website. Just press

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Speaker 6: play and everything there. Thing will be very familiar with

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Speaker 6: you because you know, you may be going through the

1065
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Speaker 6: same process or whoever you're asking for is going through

1066
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Speaker 6: the same process. So if you just press play on that,

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Speaker 6: you'll you'll get a lot of information and you could

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Speaker 6: just copy everything that they did.

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Speaker 8: All right, we got thank you because we got another

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Speaker 8: guest on there. But thank you for calling doctor her again.

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Speaker 8: How can folks on the lake train? How can they

1072
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Speaker 8: reach you? What's the website and is there an email

1073
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Speaker 8: address with it?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the website is really easy. Just go to herbal

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Speaker 6: Results dot net, h E R B A L R

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Speaker 6: E s U l ps dot net. The most important

1077
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Speaker 6: thing that you can do when you go to the

1078
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Speaker 6: website is to go to the testimonials page and just

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Speaker 6: press play on any of the videos that you want

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Speaker 6: to see. That it would be you know, consistent with

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Speaker 6: ever illness that you may have. So if you have cancer,

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Speaker 8: now for I next guess happens to be Cam Howard,

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Speaker 8: Grand Rising. Cam, welcome back to the program, and thanks

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Speaker 8: for being so patient with us.

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Speaker 20: Oh, no problem, Grand Rising brother, and I love listening

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Speaker 20: to doctor hey Rue. He's doing some fantastic work man,

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Speaker 20: And thank you for having he's a brilliant brother, and

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Speaker 20: we've been trying to get the brother in Chicago and

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Speaker 20: just haven't been able to make it happen on I

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Speaker 20: n But certainly his information used to be global.

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Speaker 8: Yes, sir, I agree totally. Speaking about global, you just

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Speaker 8: got back from Togo recently at the Pan African Conference.

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Speaker 5: Tell us about that. How did first how did it

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Speaker 5: come about?

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Speaker 20: What a put off in Congress ninth and act in Congress.

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Speaker 20: They had been planning that for about two years. There

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Speaker 20: was a little challenge with it being held in Togo

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Speaker 20: because of some of the violations human rights violations happened

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Speaker 20: in Togo, so it was delayed for a while, but

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Speaker 20: it was finally held in Togo. The government of Togo

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Speaker 20: went all out really put on a magnificent conference. It

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Speaker 20: was well attended, over maybe a thousand people. There were

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Speaker 20: like five or six pre conferences congresses that was held

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Speaker 20: around the world, particularly in the continent of Africa and

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Speaker 20: South America in anticipation or it took prepare for this congress,

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Speaker 20: and so it was well represented by Global Africa and

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Speaker 20: maybe about a thousand and so people were there. It

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Speaker 20: was just a great coming together and there were some

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Speaker 20: times a wour climbs that came out of it as well.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so who the folks on? Where the them of

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Speaker 8: the folks, where did they come from?

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Speaker 7: Well, you had.

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Speaker 20: Regan sisters from all over the continent of Africa. Of course,

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Speaker 20: the President of the Togo was there. It wasn't as

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Speaker 20: heavily attendant by heads of states as she would expect it,

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Speaker 20: but there was the Vice President of Columbia, our sister

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Speaker 20: of Francine Marcaz, an apple descendant in Colombia. Most people

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Speaker 20: don't know that Columbia has the third largest population of

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Speaker 20: African descendants, about twenty million fifteen twenty million blacks in Colombia.

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Speaker 20: Brazil was heavily attendant represented. I should say probably two

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Speaker 20: three hundred Brazilians were there. Brazil has the highest concentration

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Speaker 20: of Apple descendants on the in the Americas, with over

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Speaker 20: about one hundred million people who identify it as AFA descendants.

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Speaker 20: You know, America is the second largest. We have about

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Speaker 20: fifty five million, but we were not as represented as

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Speaker 20: we should have been. I think we counted ten people

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Speaker 20: from America. That was their sister. Gina Page Macan Ancestry

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Speaker 20: did a very great presentation on her work with reconnecting

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Speaker 20: us through our DNA lineage to the continent, to particular

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Speaker 20: ethnic groups, not just to the continent or particular countries,

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Speaker 20: but to the particular ethnic groups through maternal and paternal DNA.

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Speaker 20: There was, of course, the President Togo gave a very

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Speaker 20: great presentation to open digit to Congress as Camil Barr

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Speaker 20: who was past president of Costa Rica. Those were the

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Speaker 20: primary had a state that was there former and president.

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Speaker 20: But you have foreign ministers from all over the continent.

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Speaker 20: The Foreign Minister of the Sahel of Nigeria gave a

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Speaker 20: very very great present presentation identifying Togo as one of

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Speaker 20: the main partners when they built created their alliance Niger,

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Speaker 20: Malli and Patina Fasso. You know, they left the West

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Speaker 20: African group that Echo lost, which is a group of

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Speaker 20: West African states. They left that alliance and many of

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Speaker 20: the West African states did not recognize the alliance. But

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Speaker 20: Togo was wanted. He called that out.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 20: Togos provided them, as you know, those three three nations

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Speaker 20: a landlot and Togos provided them use of their port.

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Speaker 20: And the Togo port is very strategic UH in that

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Speaker 20: regard in that region, and so for that alliance to

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Speaker 20: have that type of relationship with Togo was very important,

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Speaker 20: and he pointed that out, and you know they got.

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Speaker 8: Got and Cam hold up thought, right there, we've got

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Speaker 8: to step aside a few moments. The family just check

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Speaker 8: it in. I guess it is Cam Howard from Reparations United,

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Speaker 8: just back from the big Pan African conference in Toga.

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Speaker 8: We're going to talk about that and also reparations with

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Speaker 8: the diaspora. Thinks about reparations and Cam when we get back,

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Speaker 8: I'll let you finish your tell us who was there

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Speaker 8: and how did all this workout?

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Speaker 5: Because you know Togo was a.

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Speaker 8: French speaking language and you speak English and other parts

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Speaker 8: of the Diastro speak Portuguese and other languages. How did

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Speaker 8: the language issue work out of the conference. I'll let

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Speaker 8: you address that when we get back. Family, you want

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01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 8: to join, this conversation is free. Reach out to us

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Speaker 8: at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy

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Speaker 8: six and we'll take your phone calls.

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Speaker 15: Next fourteen fifty wo.

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Speaker 2: Now back to the Carl Nelson Show.

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Speaker 6: H H.

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Speaker 8: And Grand Rising Family, thanks for sticking with us on

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Speaker 8: this Tuesday morning with I Guess the Cam Howard from

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01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 8: Reparations United. Cam is just back from Togo or we

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01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 8: attended the Pan African Conference and a lot of leaders

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Speaker 8: and folks from the dash borders at that conference, and

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Speaker 8: Cam will let you finish tell us who was there

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Speaker 8: and also have they handle the language barrier right.

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Speaker 20: So also there, you know there were many educators and

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01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 20: scholars of course uh their business. Uh A great deal

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01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 20: of focus was on business and on the continent.

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Speaker 7: So there were leading.

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Speaker 20: Individuals who were engaged in certain type of mining deals

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Speaker 20: and uh just a dashment investment that was a big

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Speaker 20: thing that came out and some people were who were

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Speaker 20: there representing that as well.

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Speaker 7: But you had.

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Speaker 20: A variety of civil society, government uh president post government officials, scholars, businessmen.

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Speaker 20: So you know you had a great deal of different

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Speaker 20: people while you were there. As far as language at

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Speaker 20: the East International conferences, you know, everyone has who does

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01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 20: not speak a language that is being presented in can

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Speaker 20: get a headphone when you enter to the conference and

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01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:50,880
Speaker 20: then there's channels for French, Spanish, English, Portuguese success and

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Speaker 20: just click on the channel and you get the interpretation

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Speaker 20: of the of the presentation as as it's happening live.

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Speaker 20: And so that got you through the language area for

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Speaker 20: the presenters, and even in some of the forums, breakout forums,

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Speaker 20: we had interpretations, interpreters an interpretation of the messaging.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and your forte. Was that a time?

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Speaker 8: It was a discussion at the conference.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, that was one of the main topics. I think

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01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 20: that was five commissions or five or six commissions, and

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01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 20: reparations won the commissions. I spoke. I had an opportunity

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Speaker 20: to speak on.

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Speaker 7: What I called the.

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Speaker 20: Five essentral pillars of a global reparations front. The need

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Speaker 20: for a global reparations front and the basis of that

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01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 20: front was a topic of my presentation.

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Speaker 7: There were.

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Speaker 20: About nine or ten other speakers on reparations. There was

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01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 20: a forum on reparations. I wasn't on that panel, but

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Speaker 20: I did get a chance to speak before the entire

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Speaker 20: body who were present on the day that I spoke.

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Speaker 20: The reparations were central where you know. I was in

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01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 20: Evanston right before that left the conference in Evanston. That

1254
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:20,799
Speaker 20: was a state local simposing conference, about three hundred people attending.

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01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 20: I left there talking about this revolution. I spoken everything

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01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 20: I said. We're in the midst of other reparations, global

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01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 20: reparations revolution and similar to the anti colonial revolution that

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01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,759
Speaker 20: was taking place in the sixties and seventies where people

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01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 20: were fighting against colonialism all around the world and Asian

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01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 20: Africa and South America, Central America, I mean everywhere there

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Speaker 20: was a struggle, armed struggle in the sixty seventies against colonialism.

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Speaker 20: And right now you find across the globe there is

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01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 20: a prepared to a justice struggle wherever we are in Europe,

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01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 20: the Netherlands and Britain, in France, and where we are

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01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 20: in Europe, where we are on the continent of Africa.

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01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:12,799
Speaker 20: Now they're they're fighting for reparatory justice from the colonial crimes.

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01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 20: There was a colonial conference held the week before, the

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01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 20: last week of November last November thirty December one in

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01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 20: Algeria or Colonialism Reparations for colonialism. Of course, here in

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01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 20: Americas we're fighting for reparatory justice, in the Caribbean, in

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01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:35,480
Speaker 20: South America, I mean everywhere globally where African people organized

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01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 20: as a reparatory justice struggle and that equates to a

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01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 20: revolution has taken place long reparatory justice and so that

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01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 20: is you know, when we were here at this conference,

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01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 20: reparations were central as well.

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01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean jumping in and ask you this is

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01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 8: twenty five after the top of our family, just checking in.

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01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 8: I guess it's Cam Howard from Reparations United Camp is

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01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 8: just back from Togo where attended a Pan African conference.

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Speaker 5: It was a.

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Speaker 8: Consensus reach as far as the reparations, just concerned are

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01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 8: they all in an agreement that we deserve reparations and

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01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 8: did they come away with a plan how we're going

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01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 8: to get reparations?

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Speaker 20: Well, that's forthcoming. It didn't come up with a plan.

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01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 7: Again.

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01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 20: I offered what I considered five essential pillars.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 20: They were we did not have a Our commission did

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01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,759
Speaker 20: not have a discussion. That was really one of the

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01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 20: thoughts of block of the conferences that each commission themed

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01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 20: was supposed to going to discussion, going to debate, offered resolutions,

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01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:43,560
Speaker 20: come out with resolutions and plans. The Reparations Commission h

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01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 20: just was not well organized at all.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 20: There was no interpreter interpreter Uh so everyone who were

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Speaker 20: on the panel presented twice that it took up all

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Speaker 20: the time. There was no discussion, no debate, no resolution

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Speaker 20: were offered, although I had I presented too, but there

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Speaker 20: was no discussion on them. So they couldn't be adopted.

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Speaker 20: So part of my language of my resolutions was adopted

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Speaker 20: in the final document, but not the way I presented

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Speaker 20: it because we didn't have an opportunity to debate and

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Speaker 20: discuss it. And it was different when I was at

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Speaker 20: a Pan African Congress. There was a congress, I mean,

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Speaker 20: there was a panel on reparations in twenty fourteen in Johnnysburg,

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Speaker 20: and we had that type of debate and we offered resolutions,

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Speaker 20: and we debated those resolutions and we came out with

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Speaker 20: a series of resolutions that were to be acted on.

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Speaker 20: But there was some challenge on whether or not out

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Speaker 20: that eight Pack was a credible Pan African Congress, which

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Speaker 20: it turned out that it was that because you can

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Speaker 20: have a ninth pant African Congress if there wasn't an eighth.

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Speaker 20: So but anyway, some of the resolutions that came out

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Speaker 20: of the Ninth Pack reparations was the necessity of building

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Speaker 20: a global front, and that was the basis of my conversations,

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Speaker 20: that we needed a global front based on certain principles.

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Speaker 20: And so again they wanted to develop one of the

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Speaker 20: things that they're going to develop a Central African position

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Speaker 20: on reparations. Hopefully that were taking account the principles that

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Speaker 20: I laid out, and there were several other issues around operations,

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Speaker 20: but on the necessity of the returning of African artifacts

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Speaker 20: was a It came out of that as well. Offered

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Speaker 20: that we need to target not only governments, but corporations, institutions,

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Speaker 20: and prominent families who have engaged in the atrocities against

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Speaker 20: African life over the last six hundred years wherever they are,

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Speaker 20: whether they're churches, educational institutions, corporations, et cetera, anti corporations,

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Speaker 20: that they need to be targeted. So they included some

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Speaker 20: of my language, but not directly as I had put

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Speaker 20: them forth, So that was important. Also they recognized I

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Speaker 20: don't know if you've ever had his brothers to be with,

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Speaker 20: but Lakes on your show. He's a brilliant brother. He's

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Speaker 20: lived in Guinea Bissau now. I was born here in

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Speaker 20: the US, chased his DNA back to Guinebasau, repatriated now

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01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:36,759
Speaker 20: has dual citizenship. Has helped several probably over one hundred

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Speaker 20: resident and sisters returned to Guinnebasau. I was one of

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Speaker 20: them who was chased their ancestry back there as well.

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Speaker 20: It's probably thirty forty brothers and sisters now have citizenship

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Speaker 20: as a result of his work. But he also.

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Speaker 7: Put forth that there has.

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Speaker 20: To be a African diaspora, reclamation of ancestry and a

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Speaker 20: register of ancestry, and a system by which African nations

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01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 20: received Africans in the dash we who have traced their

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Speaker 20: lineas back to one of these countries, and there should

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Speaker 20: be a structure in place that helps them reacclimate, if

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Speaker 20: you will, to their culture and to that particular country

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Speaker 20: and give them type of assistance they need and citizenship

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Speaker 20: as they desire. So that was that was also something

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01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 20: that came out of the conferences.

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Speaker 8: Thirty minutes at the top down Family, I guess it's

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Speaker 8: Cam Howard. Camis the founder of Reparations United is based

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Speaker 8: in Chicago's just back from Togo where they had a

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Speaker 8: Pan African conference. You'd like to speak to them, reach

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Speaker 8: out to us it eight hundred and four five zero

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Speaker 8: seventy eight seventy six. Brother rash Jomo's joining us from Buffalo.

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Speaker 8: He's on line one Grand Rising Ross Jomo.

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Speaker 4: You're on with Cam Howard his Grand Rising piece.

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Speaker 21: Two quick questions by the chem If you can even

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Speaker 21: with all of the challenges, and sometimes it seems like

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Speaker 21: it's a circular discussion in America. Can you speak on

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Speaker 21: how important.

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Speaker 22: It is that the.

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Speaker 21: Africans and the American diaspor really realize how far ahead

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01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 21: our collective struggle has come and why we need to

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Speaker 21: be at more international conferences. And then question two is

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Speaker 21: along the same line. I use the BC acronym or

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01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 21: whatever or two letters. But before captivity, before captivity, before colonialism,

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Speaker 21: before the Berlin Conference, how important is it for us

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Speaker 21: to lay the ground history that all of us have

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Speaker 21: to know what happened to us before these Europeans intervened

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Speaker 21: in our minds, because it's like a lot of the

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Speaker 21: glitches are taking place because we can't jump over that border.

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Speaker 6: So can you just address those two questions?

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Speaker 20: Sure, thank you, brother, Those are very important questions. And

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Speaker 20: in large ways we are very we are very much

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Speaker 20: ahead of our brothers and in the diaspora as well

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01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 20: as on the continent in regards to the work we're

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Speaker 20: doing around reparations, and in some cases we're behind. We

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Speaker 20: just say we're behind. At in both Columbia and Brazil, again,

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Speaker 20: these two largest populations of after descendants, they both of

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Speaker 20: those countries have national reparations commissions or offices if you

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Speaker 20: at their federal level.

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Speaker 9: We have not.

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Speaker 20: So in that regards we're behind, but in regards to

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01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 20: understanding the criminality, the nature of the crimes, and basing

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Speaker 20: our efforts on international law, the five forms of reparations.

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Speaker 20: I think everywhere everywhere that you find people are engaged

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01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 20: in reparations, now they understand, you know, there's five international

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Speaker 20: components of reparations, restitution, sensation, insurance, and guarantees of non repetition, conpensation, satisfaction, rehabilitation.

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Speaker 20: That's kind of nation wide among reparations activists that they

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01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 20: are pushing this spot reparations, that those five components are

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01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 20: called for reparations. The fact that we're beginning to now

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Speaker 20: since wholeheartedly UH utilize the Malcolm X framework of internationalizing.

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Speaker 20: My struggle is UH is where we're more ahead than others.

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Speaker 20: Utilizing international standards, utilizing international bodies, utilizing some of these conferences,

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Speaker 20: understanding that our all of our challenges in the country,

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Speaker 20: whether it is from enslavement or what they called jimcro

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01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 20: or part time actually climbs against humanity, and a lot

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Speaker 20: of people are speaking in those terms and these are

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Speaker 20: the central basis of what a collective reparation global collective

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01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 20: reparation struggle should be based. So that's what I'll say

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Speaker 20: about it, you know, and all the things that we're

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Speaker 20: doing on the state local level in this country, no

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01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:02,120
Speaker 20: one else is doing that around the world. Uh. So

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01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 20: we're targeting micro jurisdictions. Although we understand that, uh we

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01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:14,840
Speaker 20: have to reposition ourselves towards the federal government. Uh. There

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Speaker 20: has been a shift away from that. So, you know,

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01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 20: it's challenges that we have with us. Also, you know,

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01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,719
Speaker 20: there's some strengths that we have in the movement as well.

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Speaker 20: The second question about understanding uh BC, I love that

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01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 20: that acronym or that uh that terminology. Before captivity, you know,

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01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 20: we were sovereign people. We were people that had a

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Speaker 20: view of the world that was much different than the

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Speaker 20: global worldview that is this now which is uh one

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01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 20: that came out of European dominant domination or European aggression

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Speaker 20: uh cheek and a DA talks about the two praisle theory. Uh.

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Speaker 20: These people who came out of the Southern cradle. I

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01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 20: think people have a different worldview of relationship to nature

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01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 20: and to creation period. And then those who came out

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Speaker 20: of the Northern cradle after the glaciation of Europe where

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01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 20: Africans got trapped up there and when the ice receded,

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Speaker 20: you know, they lost they lost their melany during that process,

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Speaker 20: and they created a very aggressive mentality, aggressive personality of warring,

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Speaker 20: most personality, a personality of scarcity. And so those who

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01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 20: are all these wars and things came from from that

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01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 20: aggressiveness that was resulted from that. So I'm going even

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Speaker 20: back before, way back, but before civilization, if you will.

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Speaker 20: But certainly we need to know that, you know, it

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Speaker 20: was these atrocities over the last six hundred years which Yah,

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Speaker 20: which consists of the edit by which was inaugurated by

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Speaker 20: the edit by the Catholic Church to going to Africa

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01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 20: and Telision plundering submit their prodigy to perpetual enslavement in

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Speaker 20: the fourteen hundreds that brought us to this position that

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Speaker 20: we are. There were no African Americans, there were no Aflicans,

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Speaker 20: there was no Jamaicans, there were no Trinidadians, there were

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Speaker 20: no Afle Colombians and Apa Bazilions. None of these people

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Speaker 20: were groups ever existed prior to this edict by Roman

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Speaker 20: Catholic Church that set off the transit trafficing of African people,

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01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 20: or the Chilization wars, as Professor Tuwaisen calls it, that

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01:26:44,240 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 20: chialized millions of black people in the West. So understanding

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01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 20: that you know that was a primary cause of where

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01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 20: we are today, then we can begin to see what's

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01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 20: the primary solution. And that's what I try to emphasize

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01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 20: too at the Night Pack is that this is a

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Speaker 20: single coordinated effort. That was a single coordinated effort by

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01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 20: the European states to chattelize African people. And it was

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01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 20: a single coordinated state by coordinated effort by the European

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01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 20: states to colonize African people with the brilliant conference. You know,

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01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 20: that was a coordinated effort and it's gonna take the

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01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 20: only way it's gonna We're gonna defeat. It is a

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01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:24,839
Speaker 20: single coordinated effort.

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Speaker 7: UH.

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Speaker 20: And that's what the Pan African Congress they kind of

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01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 20: concluded as well. It was in one of the statements

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01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:33,639
Speaker 20: by President of Togo that we have to we cannot

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01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 20: deal with this, this this UH under underdevelopment UH in

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01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 20: the single and nationalist uh UH way. We have to

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01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 20: do it on the global scale and with global cooperation, all.

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Speaker 8: Right, hould that though? Right then we got to step

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01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:51,920
Speaker 8: aside from a moment. When we come back. We got

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01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 8: Jane and Charles in the Baltimore Yea. They want to

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01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 8: speak to you family. You two can join this discussion

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01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 8: with Cam Howard from Reparations United. Cam is just back

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01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 8: from Togo. He attended a Pan African conference. Or getting

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01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 8: in all the details of that. You can reach us

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01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,280
Speaker 8: at eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy

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Speaker 8: six and we'll take your phone calls.

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Speaker 15: Next fourteen fifty wol.

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Speaker 2: Now back to the Carl Nelson Show.

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Speaker 8: And Grand Rising Family. Thanks for staying with us on

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Speaker 8: this Tuesday morning, and thanks for starting your day with us.

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Speaker 8: It's sixteen minutes away from the top.

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Speaker 5: There.

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Speaker 8: I guess it is Cam Howard. Cam is out of

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Speaker 8: Chicago from Reparations United is just back from a conference

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Speaker 8: of Pan African Conference in Togo. Before we go back

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Speaker 8: to the low, let me just remind you. Coming up

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Speaker 8: later this morning, we speak with the President General of

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01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 8: the University of African People's Organization. That'll be one Zachi BREWERTI.

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Speaker 8: And later this week you're gonna hear from clinical psychologist

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Speaker 8: doctor Jormy Fox and also Quasi creator doctor Milana Kringle

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01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 8: will be here as well, So if you are in Baltimore,

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01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 8: make sure you keep you ready, locked in tight on

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01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 8: ten ten WLB. Also, if you're in the DMV, the

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Speaker 8: Washington DC Metropolitan here, people who ask me that, and

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01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 8: people in the DMV don't understand that. People they hear

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01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 8: I think of the bombing of motor vehicles in the

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01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 8: other parts of the country. Anyway, the DMV, you can

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01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 8: check us out on fourteen fifty w and if you're

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01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 8: traveling today, download the app and take us so you

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01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 8: can listen to us all through your journey through the

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01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 8: next few days. I know some folks are going to

1549
01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 8: celebrate the holiday eight hundred and four or five here

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Speaker 8: seventy eight to seventy six, let's go to Jean Jeans

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Speaker 8: call Us from Pikesville has a question for Cam Howdy's

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Speaker 8: online one. Grand Rising Geniu on with Cam.

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Speaker 6: Good morning.

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Speaker 22: I'm sorry, Grand Rising Brothers. I have a two part

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01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 22: sort of question when you talk about the Catholic Church. Now,

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Speaker 22: we're gonna go back to the twelfth century when a

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01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:44,600
Speaker 22: queen and Zinger, Well didn't Queen and Zinger convert to

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01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 22: Cassalam to deal with the I'm sorry the Dutch and

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01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 22: the Portuguese. And when you say fourteen hundred, that's when

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01:33:54,640 --> 01:34:00,759
Speaker 22: Isabella and Ferdinand kicked the Moors, sorry in the Jewish

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01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:04,680
Speaker 22: people out of the Iberian peninsula per se. So but

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01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 22: you know that that's I don't know if you would

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01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:10,559
Speaker 22: agree with me on that, but I'm sure you probably will.

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Speaker 22: But the other question is just in reference to reparations,

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Speaker 22: and that's in Kenya the Mile Maud. They didn't they

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Speaker 22: sart when their reparations suit against the British. I think

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Speaker 22: it's been recently within the last two years.

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Speaker 20: So the last question, yes, the Mama of Kenya did

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Speaker 20: when a a reparations lawsuit from from Britain. Part of

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Speaker 20: that was the return of some ancestral bloons, if you will,

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Speaker 20: from England as well as a monetary settlement as well.

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Speaker 20: So that was during the anti colonial struggles in Kenya.

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Speaker 22: Well again, I mean I think that it was it

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01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:09,840
Speaker 22: was centered around really what do what do they call it?

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Speaker 22: The extermination that the British portrayed on the Mile Mile

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01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 22: when yeah, yeah, genocide. So you know, I mean, just

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Speaker 22: I'm just saying that the people can be informed that

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Speaker 22: there we have won a reparations. Uh, you know, a battle,

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Speaker 22: and but I hope that it will be used to

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Speaker 22: emphasize that we can you know that we can win

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Speaker 22: and you know, so I want to be positive about it.

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Speaker 22: But again, like I said, Queen and Zinger they had

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Speaker 22: to convert to Catholicisms, you know, she and the sisters, uh,

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Speaker 22: in order to deal, you know, to play the Dutch

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Speaker 22: against the Portuguese.

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Speaker 6: But thank you very much. I really appreciate it, and

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Speaker 6: I'm interested in what you have to say. Have a

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Speaker 6: great day.

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Speaker 4: Sure so.

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Speaker 20: Queen and Zingo was of the Congo Angola. Uh time.

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Speaker 20: It is a brilliant book that's just written a couple

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Speaker 20: of years ago. It's entitled All the Winds of the

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01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 20: Silver mindonzh sixteenth century Ant slavery abolitionist and his brother

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Speaker 20: Mendoza is written by Professor jose Lincoln the Fosspe. He's

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Speaker 20: a brother from the be Ginnet the sow who's teaching

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Speaker 20: in London, in Bristol, England. But it's a brilliant book

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01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 20: around that family. It was not the twelve hundreds, but

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Speaker 20: it was in the in the sixteen hundreds.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 20: The family of Queen Manzinger. Her they were dominated by

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Speaker 20: the Portuguese. And once you dominated, you convert, they convert

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01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:36,799
Speaker 20: you to the leadership to Catholicism. That's one of the things

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Speaker 20: you had to do when you would dominated by the

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Speaker 20: Portuguese during that particular time. And her grandfather, I think

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Speaker 20: it was her grandfather capitulated because of domination, and there

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01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 20: was a one hundred person fee that was text on

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Speaker 20: the leaders on supplying one hundred persons angrily for the

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Speaker 20: slave trade out of Portuguese, and his grandfather went along

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Speaker 20: with it was because he was dominated and his son

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Speaker 20: refused to and his son was Queen and Zinger's cousin,

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Speaker 20: and collectively they went up against the Portuguese. But his

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Speaker 20: son was eventually decapitated along with his wife, and all

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Speaker 20: of their family was exiled. All the royal family was

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Speaker 20: exiled to Brazil, and one of the nephews was his

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Speaker 20: brother by the name of Lorenzo da Silva Mendoza. And

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Speaker 20: while he was there, one another thing the Portuguese did

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Speaker 20: was they educated the royal families that participated in their

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Speaker 20: who who under who didn't resist further resist their domination,

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01:38:03,160 --> 01:38:06,479
Speaker 20: And so the brother was educated. He studied law in Brazil.

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01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 20: He eventually joined it. There was African brotherhoods at this

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Speaker 20: time who were against enslavement. There was a Brazilian brotherhood

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01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 20: that was a Portuguese brotherhood, and the Spanish brotherhood that

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01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:23,519
Speaker 20: was formed to resist enslavement. He joined those brotherhoods. He

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01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 20: studied law, and he eventually took a law petition to

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Speaker 20: the Vatican Supreme Court in sixteen eighty two and another

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Speaker 20: one in sixteen eighty six, where the whole question of

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01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 20: enslavement was adjudicated to be illegal, that Africans must be

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Speaker 20: returned back to the continent, and that reparations was due.

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Speaker 20: And this is a tremendous victory in the sixteen hundreds

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01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 20: that no one is aware of, the people aware of.

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01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:54,679
Speaker 20: But this brother's book points all that out. So Queen

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01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:58,600
Speaker 20: Zinga is a huge figure that we know about. But

1633
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 20: also we should know about her cousin, Rinzo the Silver Mendoza,

1634
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:09,719
Speaker 20: who actually took a resentment to the Vatican and got

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01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 20: it adjudicated. And the thing was that slavery was so

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01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:15,680
Speaker 20: profitable at the time that the European government has just

1637
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:19,679
Speaker 20: ignored them, that the ruling. But the ruling is there,

1638
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 20: so we utilized them today to say slavery was never legal,

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01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 20: and the European court and the Vatican, which was the

1640
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 20: supreme court of the European Christendom, even proclaimed that it

1641
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:33,560
Speaker 20: was illegal. At that particular time, the Chatawaan slavement was

1642
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 20: illegal and that it needed to be redressed. And that

1643
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:42,879
Speaker 20: ruling has been referenced several times according to brother research

1644
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 20: over the last four undy years, but we're still not

1645
01:39:46,040 --> 01:39:49,439
Speaker 20: aware of it. So we utilizing that legal president now

1646
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 20: to go against all these Europeans who are saying flavor

1647
01:39:53,240 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 20: was legal, slavory was legal.

1648
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 7: It was never legal.

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Speaker 20: We know now it was never legal, and you can't

1650
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 20: hide behind that these were crimes. The brother argues they

1651
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:06,680
Speaker 20: were crimes against nature, crimes against God, climes against the

1652
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:12,000
Speaker 20: civil crimes, and crimes against humanity. Before we even heard

1653
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 20: of the term crimes against humanity. This brother was arguing

1654
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 20: that in the sixteen hundreds or the seventeenth century to

1655
01:40:18,840 --> 01:40:23,559
Speaker 20: sixteen hundreds. And so you know, we are again. Malcolm

1656
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:27,599
Speaker 20: told us, you know, to take our case into an

1657
01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 20: international arena, and that's what we're doing now, and we

1658
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 20: have these international presidents that we're utilizing to build the

1659
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:40,479
Speaker 20: current reparations movement globally. So thank you brother for bringing

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01:40:40,520 --> 01:40:41,360
Speaker 20: up Queen and Zinger.

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Speaker 5: All right, thank you, thank you. Jeane.

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Speaker 8: Seven minutes away from the top of that with guest

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Speaker 8: that is Cam Howard from Reparations United. As I mentioned,

1664
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 8: Cam just back from Togo Tennedy Pan Afghan International Conference

1665
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 8: there and Charles in Baltimore has a question for you, Camp.

1666
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 8: He's online two grand rise and Charles for Cam Howard.

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01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 7: Yes, how you doing today? Cam?

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01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:05,639
Speaker 20: I'm good.

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Speaker 6: My brothers all right, all right, Well, I gotta say,

1670
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 6: you know, the Vatican and the Mormons, they hold the

1671
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:19,600
Speaker 6: records and the records that we had. Excuse me, I.

1672
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 7: Say that you're absolutely right.

1673
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, the records that we have have been redacted, that

1674
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 6: history has been redacted. See, they lead us and we follow.

1675
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 6: But I think for myself and I analyze things and

1676
01:41:34,920 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 6: I investigate. See the gloves don't fit. So we must

1677
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:40,920
Speaker 6: have quit because we don't have any facts. We keep

1678
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:47,560
Speaker 6: getting rhetoric. We don't have any tribes identified, no countries identified,

1679
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 6: no families identified. Like if my family was stolen, I'd

1680
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:56,519
Speaker 6: be looking for them through centuries. I mean I'd still

1681
01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 6: be saying, hey, where's my family that you took in

1682
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 6: so and so and so we don't have enough information

1683
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:07,760
Speaker 6: to make an African claim. So I'm trying to understand

1684
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 6: where is all this coming from when we don't have

1685
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 6: all the facts, We don't have all the information, we

1686
01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:17,680
Speaker 6: don't have our investigation complete.

1687
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:20,600
Speaker 8: Right, Well, it's give a chance to respond to you

1688
01:42:20,920 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 8: Sean repeat yourself, cap So yeah, you know.

1689
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 20: See archives are there. There's a there's a whole movement

1690
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:34,759
Speaker 20: around getting a lot of these archives released and open.

1691
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 20: The brother who I just mentioned, professor Nafisse Uh had

1692
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 20: to learn five different languages to write his book. Uh

1693
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:48,640
Speaker 20: European language as well as Latin, and he speak Portuguese

1694
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:52,400
Speaker 20: because you know, beginning Gasa was colonized by the Portuguese.

1695
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 20: We also to learn Italian and French and Spanish in

1696
01:42:56,479 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 20: order to to to and to have a sets into

1697
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 20: these archives. But the archives that they are, more and

1698
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 20: more scholars are going into these archives delivering us the

1699
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:10,679
Speaker 20: facts so we can have a stronger case and we're

1700
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 20: able to defeat you know, all this rhetoric by the

1701
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 20: Europeans on why reparations, it's not something that they are

1702
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:22,440
Speaker 20: willing to engage in. But as long as we continue

1703
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:28,200
Speaker 20: our research, we continue pressing on we can overcome all

1704
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:33,640
Speaker 20: of their challenges, legally, overcome all their challenges and you know,

1705
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 20: press them to actually deliver redress. So that's where we're at. Brother,

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01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 20: It's an ongoing struggle what we have until we can

1707
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 20: get more. But suddenly we have enough of enough facts

1708
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:50,080
Speaker 20: right now to make credible cases that these people are

1709
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 20: engage in criminal actions. These criminal actions continue to impact

1710
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 20: us negotively and under through the law where you have

1711
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:04,360
Speaker 20: continue impact from times readdress is mandatory, is obligatory. It's

1712
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 20: not questionable, not whether or not these countries should engage

1713
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 20: in redresses. It's mandatory under international law for wrong for

1714
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:13,800
Speaker 20: I committed by governments.

1715
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 8: Right, let me jump me here for a second, camp,

1716
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:18,559
Speaker 8: because I think what Charles what Charles is saying, camp,

1717
01:44:18,560 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 8: And I'll let you because we're come up on a break.

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01:44:19,920 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 8: I let you address this when we get back. What

1719
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:24,200
Speaker 8: he's saying. We don't have proof the fact that we

1720
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:28,160
Speaker 8: were enslaved or we're part of a transitor with ancestors.

1721
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:30,679
Speaker 8: We're part of our answer survival of the trans atlantic

1722
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:34,400
Speaker 8: slave trade. So I'll let you address that, because that's

1723
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 8: where he's going. He says, basically, we don't deserve repreations

1724
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:38,600
Speaker 8: because we can't prove that we were enslaved or that

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01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:43,080
Speaker 8: we came from Africa. I'll let you address that when Yeah,

1726
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 8: well he said it several times and you know he

1727
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,639
Speaker 8: goes he uses different combinations to get there. But that's

1728
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:49,960
Speaker 8: what that's the essence of his question. So I'll let

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01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 8: you address that when we get back three away from

1730
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 8: the top of our family, I guess there's Cam. How

1731
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:57,920
Speaker 8: Cam's from reparations United Is? I mentioned it just back

1732
01:44:57,920 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 8: from a Pan African confers. Untilgo you like to reach

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01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:02,639
Speaker 8: out to us at eight hundred and four or five

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01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:05,599
Speaker 8: zero seventy eight seventy six, and we'll take calls after

1735
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:07,559
Speaker 8: we look at the traffic, the weather in our different cities.

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Speaker 5: That's next.

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Speaker 14: Baltimore Washington Parkway. Still watch a bit of volumes southbound

1738
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 14: into Jessup earlier crash that we had southbound after one

1739
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:59,280
Speaker 14: ninety seven in Laurel. Most of that activity on the shoulder,

1740
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:01,400
Speaker 14: but that was still give us some slow downs each way.

1741
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 14: Now inside the beltway, you're looking fantastic through Riverdale and

1742
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:08,360
Speaker 14: Cheverley inbound fifty that does slow after two o two.

1743
01:46:08,439 --> 01:46:10,400
Speaker 14: It's the volume delay to the split for New York

1744
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 14: Kenilworth Avenue, New York Avenue. You're looking good heading to

1745
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 14: the third Street Tunnel. Freeways been nice and quiet getting

1746
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:19,200
Speaker 14: onto the freeway. Watch for northbound two ninety five slowing

1747
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:21,600
Speaker 14: to get onto the inbound eleven Street bridge. Crash on

1748
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 14: the Suitland Parkway inbound at Stanton Road. That has been cleared.

1749
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:27,360
Speaker 14: We do have belway delays to the Wilson Bridge this morning,

1750
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 14: backing near Saint Barnabas Road and leaving ninety five the

1751
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 14: outer loop stop and go around at Georgia Avenue. Now

1752
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:35,120
Speaker 14: look at your forecast. Breezy this morning. We do have

1753
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:38,519
Speaker 14: some rain and drizzle in spots. Otherwise, this afternoon cloudy

1754
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 14: with a high temperature of fifty one. Tonight slow thirty nine.

1755
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Speaker 14: Our current temperature is thirty eight degrees. I'm Jamie Witten

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01:46:45,000 --> 01:46:50,480
Speaker 14: for Newstock fourteen fifty AM WOL, Where information is Power.

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Speaker 16: Fourteen fifty WOL, Washington d C ninety five point nine

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Speaker 16: W two four zero DJ wmmj HD three w j

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Speaker 16: F m h D three at Worldwide at w o

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Speaker 16: l DC news dot com.

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01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:10,240
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1762
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 17: of the hosts and guests, and do not necessarily reflect

1763
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:16,639
Speaker 17: the views of Urban One Incorporated, Radio One or any

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01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 17: of its subsidiary companies.

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01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 2: With the Most submiss The Carl Nelson Show.

1766
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:30,720
Speaker 1: With the Most Submissive.

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01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 8: And Grand Rising Family. Thanks for rolling with us on

1768
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:57,679
Speaker 8: this Tuesday morning momentary. You're going to speak with brother

1769
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:01,240
Speaker 8: Zaki Brudi. He's the president of the Universal of African

1770
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 8: People's Organization. They're based in Saint Louis. Wrap up with

1771
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:08,600
Speaker 8: Bill cam Howard Camp. So what Charles is saying, and

1772
01:48:08,640 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 8: he's been saying this for some time, that we were

1773
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 8: here before the Transatlantic slave it took place, so therefore

1774
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:18,760
Speaker 8: we don't deserve reparations. So many of us were already here.

1775
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 8: And this is some of the Internet chattered. So that's

1776
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 8: why I wanted you to school him and those who

1777
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:25,840
Speaker 8: believe that. So go ahead.

1778
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 20: I think Emery University, I think they have a slave

1779
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:36,879
Speaker 20: ship registry. I think it's called that, But they document

1780
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:42,800
Speaker 20: over thirty five thousand voyages. Businesses kept great records, and

1781
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:44,720
Speaker 20: they were able to look at these records from these

1782
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 20: various Uh, you know, we're still ruled by maritime law

1783
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:54,120
Speaker 20: in certain regards in this country, and so there was

1784
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:59,719
Speaker 20: a a great deal of accuracy and reporting on those

1785
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:03,439
Speaker 20: those voyages, those those ships that came here, and how

1786
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 20: many people were on and how many voyes again, thirty

1787
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:08,559
Speaker 20: five thousand voyges. You know that ten people per boye

1788
01:49:08,680 --> 01:49:14,160
Speaker 20: just three hundred and fifty three hundred and fifty thousand people.

1789
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 20: So you know, one hundred voyages is you know, three

1790
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:23,439
Speaker 20: million people. So there were you know, tremendous amount of

1791
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:25,679
Speaker 20: record keeping in Gush and how many people were brought

1792
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:28,880
Speaker 20: from it, from the content of Africa, you can't deny.

1793
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 20: You know that Bata is there, and yes there were

1794
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:37,840
Speaker 20: Africans here. You know, people read the book They came

1795
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 20: in Forore Columbus. There were some Africans here. They had

1796
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:46,200
Speaker 20: been trading here as early as the twelfth century and

1797
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 20: probably earlier than that. But we do know there was

1798
01:49:48,200 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 20: a shipment. There was a fleet of I think twenty

1799
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:54,559
Speaker 20: five ships that left West African came in the twelfth century.

1800
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:57,519
Speaker 20: So we know that Africans had been into Americas long

1801
01:49:57,560 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 20: before Columbus and the long before or the enslavement, but

1802
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:05,720
Speaker 20: they were incorporated into the enslavement trade even if you

1803
01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:09,680
Speaker 20: i know, like the Washita in Mississippi, they were in

1804
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:15,959
Speaker 20: they're an African indigenous group, but they were incorporated into enslavement.

1805
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:18,760
Speaker 20: They were also enslaved. So no matter when we got here,

1806
01:50:19,160 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 20: if we were here in Americans or the colonists uh

1807
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 20: uh saw us or engaged in us, they immediately tried

1808
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:31,200
Speaker 20: to enslave us, and they did so and until we

1809
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:36,720
Speaker 20: ran away or freed ourselves. And so that still deserves

1810
01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 20: reparatory justice, even if we were here before uh they

1811
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 20: actually came. You know, we were we were, we were

1812
01:50:44,240 --> 01:50:47,880
Speaker 20: incorporated into the whole system of tattle enslavement, whether we

1813
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 20: were here before or we were brought here out there.

1814
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 6: Uh.

1815
01:50:51,439 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 20: So we're all deserving these operations. If you have of

1816
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:57,600
Speaker 20: African descent, you know we've been even after enslavement. The

1817
01:50:57,680 --> 01:51:02,120
Speaker 20: apartheid regime. The apartheid era also is deserving of reparations.

1818
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:04,880
Speaker 20: All the crimes committed in and the continued impact we

1819
01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:09,280
Speaker 20: have from uh the Jim Crow era, which we use

1820
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:14,360
Speaker 20: the term apartheid because it has a international krimon law

1821
01:51:14,840 --> 01:51:17,080
Speaker 20: reference and Jim Crow does not, so we don't even

1822
01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:23,599
Speaker 20: use that term. But all of that history of Chocian's

1823
01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:28,080
Speaker 20: behavior is deserving of redress.

1824
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:33,280
Speaker 8: Let me jump in also recently the crack cocaine epidemic.

1825
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:33,559
Speaker 5: That was placed in.

1826
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:40,639
Speaker 20: Apartheid, the I mean neo apartheid era. I mean it's

1827
01:51:40,640 --> 01:51:45,280
Speaker 20: still was designed to subjugate us. No, racial subjugation is

1828
01:51:45,280 --> 01:51:49,680
Speaker 20: is the definition of apartheid. So crack cocaine was was

1829
01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 20: part of that subjugation efforts. UH predatory Linden was part

1830
01:51:53,960 --> 01:51:57,720
Speaker 20: of that subjugation efforts, police terrorism and police murder. It's

1831
01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 20: still part of the subjugation of African people. So we've

1832
01:52:00,439 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 20: never existed outside of a system of subjugation, whether it

1833
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 20: was an enslavement or apartheid or what I call neo apartact.

1834
01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 20: We're still and the crimes of still being committed. So

1835
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:16,799
Speaker 20: reparations and justice is synonymous. You can't talk about justice.

1836
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:21,479
Speaker 20: We demand justice and reparations readdressed is not part of it.

1837
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 8: Keith in DC has a quick question for you. He's

1838
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 8: online too, grand Rise and Keith your question for Cam Howard.

1839
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:34,439
Speaker 19: Yeah, mister Howard grand Rising. Every morning, I was wondering

1840
01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:38,840
Speaker 19: if you can figure out a way to explain how

1841
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:46,240
Speaker 19: is the fittered distribution of reparations for those directly and

1842
01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 19: directly affected by enslavement.

1843
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 7: I will shortly say that the.

1844
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:56,040
Speaker 19: Example that if there's a class action lawsuits for anything

1845
01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 19: that has affected so much many generations down the line,

1846
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:02,240
Speaker 19: when so one realize that they have a sickness, they

1847
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:05,519
Speaker 19: realized that he was connected to back class action lawsuit,

1848
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 19: whatever the violation may be, so they'll get a portion.

1849
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 19: And I believe that the last gentleman wanted to know

1850
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:13,559
Speaker 19: that how do we have enough evidence? It doesn't matter

1851
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 19: about the evidence, the fact of the effect of the

1852
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:19,800
Speaker 19: individual who was affected. Like myself and many others, no

1853
01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:22,719
Speaker 19: matter where you are in life, you still are entitled

1854
01:53:22,720 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 19: to a portion of a reparation for what has happened,

1855
01:53:27,240 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 19: not only to your ancestors, but actually to you, because

1856
01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:34,600
Speaker 19: you've been affected by what was the affection towards your ancest.

1857
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 5: And that's all I happened, all right, Thanksgiate.

1858
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 20: Yeah, that's an interesting concept, proportional compensation. I think that

1859
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 20: if there's gonna be compensation, and there's something, certainly something

1860
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:52,680
Speaker 20: we're fighting for I'm fighting for, I think that it

1861
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:58,920
Speaker 20: would probably be just a singular amount to everyone. I

1862
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:01,160
Speaker 20: don't think that we like going to you know, I

1863
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:04,679
Speaker 20: know what the nine to eleven Claims Commission, They tried

1864
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:08,559
Speaker 20: to do some proportional compensation based on.

1865
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:11,320
Speaker 7: The people.

1866
01:54:12,560 --> 01:54:18,240
Speaker 20: Who transition based on their social status, Like if you

1867
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 20: were a chaunait It, you got so much. If you

1868
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:23,800
Speaker 20: was a white collar worker, you got so much. And

1869
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:27,439
Speaker 20: that was a problem. And you know that's just as

1870
01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 20: other layers, and they worked it out, but you know

1871
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:36,000
Speaker 20: everyone's everyone wasn't satisfied. So that proportional compensation is a

1872
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 20: is a very challenging proposition. But I think that if

1873
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 20: we're going to be compensated, everybody should get the same.

1874
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 20: You know, every family that's like the forty acres and them,

1875
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:48,440
Speaker 20: or if you were you know, I had a family,

1876
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 20: no matter how large your family was. You know, as

1877
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:55,280
Speaker 20: a male, you got the forty acres. And I think

1878
01:54:55,360 --> 01:54:59,440
Speaker 20: something like that is going to be It would be

1879
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:01,760
Speaker 20: a better and something proportional.

1880
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 8: All right, can we're gonna let you go because we've

1881
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 8: got the brother Zachi Broody on deck. Before we let

1882
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 8: you go, though, how can folks reach you? How can

1883
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 8: they follow you for more? Because you're in the vanguard

1884
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:13,120
Speaker 8: of the reparations fight, how can they follow you or

1885
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:13,520
Speaker 8: reach you?

1886
01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:14,840
Speaker 7: Thank you?

1887
01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:19,120
Speaker 20: You can reach me at Reparations United dot org. Reparations

1888
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 20: with the Sunited dot org or they can email me

1889
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 20: at CAM at Reparations United dot org.

1890
01:55:26,760 --> 01:55:29,520
Speaker 8: All right, and what's the follower from the Pan African conference?

1891
01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 5: Is there one?

1892
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:34,839
Speaker 20: They haven't established that, but they did establish any resolution

1893
01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:38,800
Speaker 20: that there has to be follow ups. There's going to

1894
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:46,080
Speaker 20: be a post Congress gathering within the next twelve months

1895
01:55:46,120 --> 01:55:48,960
Speaker 20: and then they want. One of the resolutions was to

1896
01:55:49,040 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 20: have fund out the designers every five years, so it

1897
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:57,520
Speaker 20: has to be an implementation phase, an accountability phase, and

1898
01:55:57,640 --> 01:56:01,880
Speaker 20: assessment phase leading up to the mets man a think

1899
01:56:01,960 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 20: in Congress. So we're looking forward to being part of

1900
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 20: some of the options that kind of take place over

1901
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 20: the next few years.

1902
01:56:11,720 --> 01:56:14,240
Speaker 8: All right, Thanks Cam, and thanks for representing us at

1903
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:16,120
Speaker 8: that conference, and thank you for all the work that

1904
01:56:16,160 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 8: you do in reparations, because you know, some folks feel

1905
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:21,680
Speaker 8: like we don't deserve it or we cannot get it,

1906
01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 8: but you're still out there in the front fighting for

1907
01:56:23,800 --> 01:56:25,720
Speaker 8: reparations for us. So I just want to thank you

1908
01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:26,280
Speaker 8: for doing that.

1909
01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 20: Thank you, Brother Connor. And again I always say brother,

1910
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:34,520
Speaker 20: we only you know Kim moves forward is our black

1911
01:56:34,600 --> 01:56:37,320
Speaker 20: media man has us out there and being exposed. So

1912
01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:38,120
Speaker 20: Thank you so much.

1913
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:38,440
Speaker 3: Brother.

1914
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:42,800
Speaker 8: All right, that's Cam Howard Family Reparations United ten out

1915
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:45,800
Speaker 8: the top. Let's turn attention now to the President and

1916
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 8: General of the President General of the Universal of African

1917
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:52,920
Speaker 8: People's Organization, Zaki Burudi. Grand Rising, brother Zaki, welcome back

1918
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:53,920
Speaker 8: to the program.

1919
01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 7: Thanks you for grand rising to you and all over

1920
01:56:57,280 --> 01:57:00,600
Speaker 7: your thousands of listeners. And let me just say a

1921
01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 7: salute brother Cam Howard and know him personally and like you,

1922
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:10,880
Speaker 7: I just command him for his stat fastness and pushing

1923
01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:16,000
Speaker 7: for us to have reparations. And you know, we all

1924
01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:19,520
Speaker 7: should have reparations for the years and the years of

1925
01:57:19,640 --> 01:57:22,840
Speaker 7: the degradation and the murder of our people. I just

1926
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:25,080
Speaker 7: have to hope up with that as well as I

1927
01:57:25,120 --> 01:57:27,640
Speaker 7: would encourage people to get a copy of the book

1928
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Speaker 7: One hundred Years of Lynchings to keep people grounded as

1929
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Speaker 7: to why we need reparations. So anyway, how you doing,

1930
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Speaker 7: my good brother.

1931
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Speaker 5: I'm still learning, man.

1932
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Speaker 8: I learned a lot from from Cam and I'm sure

1933
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Speaker 8: I'm go to lunch some stuff from you as well,

1934
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Speaker 8: because you've been on this. You've been an activist for

1935
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:44,879
Speaker 8: like sixty years or more than sixty years. Of activists

1936
01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:47,840
Speaker 8: can you take us back to when it started for you,

1937
01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:50,440
Speaker 8: brother Zaki. What was it that made you, you know,

1938
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Speaker 8: decide I want to do something, I want to make

1939
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Speaker 8: a change.

1940
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Speaker 5: What was it?

1941
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Speaker 7: Okay? Then, first of all, again, I thank you for

1942
01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:02,520
Speaker 7: allowing me to be on your program. As you mentioned,

1943
01:58:02,520 --> 01:58:05,560
Speaker 7: I've been involved in the movement for over sixty years.

1944
01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 7: I'm at right now seventy eight years, so majority of

1945
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 7: my life has been advocating for social justice and equality. Well,

1946
01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 7: first of all, I got involved. Actually, if a little

1947
01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:19,960
Speaker 7: bit about my background. I was born in Midstip but

1948
01:58:20,080 --> 01:58:24,400
Speaker 7: raised in East Saint Louis, Elinois, and I'm the oldest

1949
01:58:24,440 --> 01:58:28,160
Speaker 7: of ten and we lived in the stream poverty, you know,

1950
01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 7: the outside tarlet, outside water sposet and but it was

1951
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:36,680
Speaker 7: a real great neighborhood that I grew up in in

1952
01:58:36,720 --> 01:58:41,440
Speaker 7: a predominantly black school system, had some great teachers, but

1953
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 7: coming up, our family had I believe was the first

1954
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:50,160
Speaker 7: block and white TV on the block, and a lot

1955
01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:52,080
Speaker 7: of my friends would come over and look at TV

1956
01:58:52,200 --> 01:58:54,760
Speaker 7: with us. But we were fed a lot of Long

1957
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:58,520
Speaker 7: Ranger and twards the movies, and I'll never forget that,

1958
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:02,880
Speaker 7: brother Stokely Car, I was a senior in high school,

1959
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 7: had came to East Saint Louis to speak Stokehousa no

1960
01:59:07,960 --> 01:59:13,160
Speaker 7: at Kwame Terade. And in his presentation, because you know

1961
01:59:13,320 --> 01:59:15,600
Speaker 7: I was rooting for Tarzan, I was rooting for a

1962
01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:19,080
Speaker 7: long ranger, he was just sharing how our people had

1963
01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:23,959
Speaker 7: been psychologically tricked and damaged. And he used an example

1964
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:28,760
Speaker 7: of Tarzan, and he was explaining how it was projected

1965
01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 7: to Tarzan. Here a little scraungry white boy in the jungle,

1966
01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:35,839
Speaker 7: whooping black bolts, controlling the animals, and as the people

1967
01:59:36,200 --> 01:59:39,920
Speaker 7: we rooting for him. And when he said that, immediately

1968
01:59:39,960 --> 01:59:42,880
Speaker 7: I like came on my brain and I said, as

1969
01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:46,600
Speaker 7: Mathol was said, I've been damn boozed, I've been tricked.

1970
01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:52,600
Speaker 7: So that was my first really level of consciousness through

1971
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 7: him while in high school. Subsequently, I ended up going

1972
01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:03,280
Speaker 7: to Southern la Our University and became involved in the

1973
02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:06,200
Speaker 7: student movement there and at the time across America in

1974
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:10,240
Speaker 7: the sixties late sixties, there were rebellions across many of

1975
02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:15,240
Speaker 7: the college campuses, and our organization, Black Student Association of

1976
02:00:15,880 --> 02:00:21,120
Speaker 7: Southern Illinois University Edwardsville, we organized a major protest whereby

1977
02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:26,920
Speaker 7: we seized the chancellor's offers and I was the spokesperson

1978
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:30,920
Speaker 7: for the group and we were calling for black studies

1979
02:00:31,480 --> 02:00:38,280
Speaker 7: and black faulty and more emphasis on black studies and

1980
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:42,280
Speaker 7: what have you. And then from there I became very

1981
02:00:42,280 --> 02:00:45,920
Speaker 7: involved in the community as an activist and one of

1982
02:00:45,960 --> 02:00:51,280
Speaker 7: my attorney medicalized points of life came with the murder

1983
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:55,480
Speaker 7: and assassination of prey at Hampton, which hit me like

1984
02:00:55,760 --> 02:01:01,480
Speaker 7: who like if it was my biological family and my outrage.

1985
02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:05,760
Speaker 7: That was my very first organizing effort to bring a

1986
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:11,160
Speaker 7: protest around the murder of Fredhampton and Marclard and we

1987
02:01:11,240 --> 02:01:16,320
Speaker 7: had a major turned out a couple hundred people. And

1988
02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:19,280
Speaker 7: from there I began working with the Black Panther Party,

1989
02:01:19,400 --> 02:01:24,000
Speaker 7: distributing the newspaper both in uh UH East Saint Louis

1990
02:01:24,160 --> 02:01:27,400
Speaker 7: as well as the Saint Louis and I worked with

1991
02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:30,520
Speaker 7: the party for a number of years. But also early

1992
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:38,080
Speaker 7: in life I became an educator and UH and in

1993
02:01:38,120 --> 02:01:40,320
Speaker 7: the East Saint Louis I did what was part of

1994
02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:45,600
Speaker 7: a number of progressive organizations to Black United Front and UH.

1995
02:01:46,160 --> 02:01:50,120
Speaker 7: I also became an educator and was a strong advocate

1996
02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:53,360
Speaker 7: for different changes in the educational system. So that's kind

1997
02:01:53,400 --> 02:01:57,840
Speaker 7: of like the beginning part of my advocacy. Uh and

1998
02:01:58,000 --> 02:02:03,400
Speaker 7: uh it has taken many many different forms, going back

1999
02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:04,760
Speaker 7: to police violence.

2000
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:08,040
Speaker 8: Now, before you go there, I want to stay with

2001
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:09,920
Speaker 8: you for a second here, when when you're in the

2002
02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:13,320
Speaker 8: educational department, when you were a teacher, did you get

2003
02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:16,400
Speaker 8: a chance to share your your inner thoughts, your thought

2004
02:02:16,560 --> 02:02:18,240
Speaker 8: about us as or people to the students.

2005
02:02:18,760 --> 02:02:20,120
Speaker 5: Did you get a chance to weave.

2006
02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:23,480
Speaker 8: In some of that we call Michael fred Hampton kind

2007
02:02:23,480 --> 02:02:25,720
Speaker 8: of vibe to the students when you were teaching them.

2008
02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:31,960
Speaker 7: You know absolutely, I was kind of one of the

2009
02:02:32,960 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 7: kind of teachers that stood out as it relates to

2010
02:02:35,840 --> 02:02:39,640
Speaker 7: advocacy for our people knowing the knowledge of our sales

2011
02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:42,880
Speaker 7: because they you know, throughout the public school system buy

2012
02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:45,720
Speaker 7: and Lawge did not teach the history of our people.

2013
02:02:46,360 --> 02:02:54,360
Speaker 7: Being history teacher as well as Civics and social studies area,

2014
02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:59,920
Speaker 7: I many times it was mandatory for me to teacher

2015
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:02,120
Speaker 7: to history.

2016
02:03:01,880 --> 02:03:04,480
Speaker 8: To the student and who leftow right there, brother Zachi,

2017
02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:05,440
Speaker 8: you we got to have a side for a few

2018
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:07,400
Speaker 8: moments when we come back. Thought you tell us about

2019
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:09,200
Speaker 8: that journey because you know, we have a lot of teachers,

2020
02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:11,520
Speaker 8: teachers on break right now for the holiday when they

2021
02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:13,440
Speaker 8: go back. Some of them are a challenge and they

2022
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:15,120
Speaker 8: want to do it, but they just don't know how

2023
02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:18,560
Speaker 8: to do. What sort of mechanism to tell out our children,

2024
02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:20,920
Speaker 8: you know, the real history, what's going on. Some of

2025
02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:23,120
Speaker 8: them still telling the Columbus discovered America and that kind

2026
02:03:23,120 --> 02:03:25,520
Speaker 8: of stuff. I want you to tell them how to

2027
02:03:25,520 --> 02:03:27,640
Speaker 8: get that message across to our students. Family, You two

2028
02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:30,560
Speaker 8: can join our discussion with Zaki Buruti. Reach out to

2029
02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:33,280
Speaker 8: what's at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight

2030
02:03:33,440 --> 02:03:35,320
Speaker 8: seventy six and we take your phone calls.

2031
02:03:35,200 --> 02:03:52,960
Speaker 15: Next fourteen fifty wol.

2032
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Speaker 2: Back to the Carl Nelson Show.

2033
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Speaker 8: And Grand Rising family, thanks for rolling with us on

2034
02:04:25,760 --> 02:04:28,520
Speaker 8: this Tuesday morning. I guess his brother Zachi Berudi from

2035
02:04:28,680 --> 02:04:31,839
Speaker 8: he's the President general of the Universal of African People's Organization.

2036
02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:34,839
Speaker 8: He's been an activists, he mentioned, for more than sixty years.

2037
02:04:35,160 --> 02:04:36,680
Speaker 8: You'd like to speak to him, reach out to us

2038
02:04:36,680 --> 02:04:38,920
Speaker 8: at eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight

2039
02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:41,360
Speaker 8: seventy sixth and let me just shout out our truck drivers.

2040
02:04:41,360 --> 02:04:43,400
Speaker 8: We've got a bunch of truckers who listen to the

2041
02:04:43,400 --> 02:04:46,480
Speaker 8: program religiously every morning and now then they send me

2042
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:48,560
Speaker 8: a note to let us let them know that we're

2043
02:04:48,600 --> 02:04:50,400
Speaker 8: listening to this. They're out in the Midwest. Made them

2044
02:04:50,440 --> 02:04:53,360
Speaker 8: out in the Midwest. They say they used to listen

2045
02:04:53,400 --> 02:04:57,400
Speaker 8: to another program before the host left and so now

2046
02:04:57,400 --> 02:04:59,400
Speaker 8: they they've adopted us. So we just thank you for

2047
02:05:00,160 --> 02:05:03,640
Speaker 8: for checking in with all our truckers out there this morning. Anyway,

2048
02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:07,760
Speaker 8: brother Zaqi, for the teachers who becames do on recess, Now,

2049
02:05:07,840 --> 02:05:09,880
Speaker 8: we always shout out our teachers because I think their

2050
02:05:09,920 --> 02:05:12,000
Speaker 8: job is what you do, and you understand this is

2051
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:14,800
Speaker 8: the most probably the most important job ever, especially for

2052
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:17,640
Speaker 8: black teachers, you know, to create and shape our young

2053
02:05:17,680 --> 02:05:21,600
Speaker 8: people the future of our race. So my question to

2054
02:05:21,600 --> 02:05:24,360
Speaker 8: you is how if you can show some tips on

2055
02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:26,840
Speaker 8: how they can you know, whether they're teaching math and

2056
02:05:26,920 --> 02:05:29,800
Speaker 8: tell them that we invented math or you know, dispel

2057
02:05:29,840 --> 02:05:32,560
Speaker 8: all these rumors about who the Columbus discovered American the

2058
02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:35,280
Speaker 8: Columbus discovered the Caribbean islands and all that kind of stuff.

2059
02:05:35,480 --> 02:05:37,560
Speaker 8: How can you do it skillfully where you won't get

2060
02:05:37,600 --> 02:05:39,960
Speaker 8: reprimanded or did you get reprimanded.

2061
02:05:39,440 --> 02:05:43,240
Speaker 7: When you did it well? While I was in the

2062
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:50,040
Speaker 7: school system, I began in nineteen seventy. However, I was

2063
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:55,400
Speaker 7: very outspoken about a lot of the negative conditions that saw.

2064
02:05:55,480 --> 02:05:57,920
Speaker 7: In fact, I've written a couple of booklets while as

2065
02:05:57,920 --> 02:06:01,840
Speaker 7: an educator that addressed the number of issues that I

2066
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:06,080
Speaker 7: thought there need to be changed or address within the

2067
02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:10,480
Speaker 7: school system. My first book was titled Challenge. It's a

2068
02:06:10,520 --> 02:06:13,760
Speaker 7: long title, challenged the building of a clean, prosperous Black

2069
02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:18,120
Speaker 7: community through our educational system as opposed to the conspiracy.

2070
02:06:18,640 --> 02:06:21,840
Speaker 7: And the second one was entitled The Challenge Part two?

2071
02:06:21,880 --> 02:06:25,680
Speaker 7: Can We Do It? And I ended up writing these

2072
02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:28,920
Speaker 7: booklets based on the fact of my observation of so

2073
02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:32,480
Speaker 7: many negative things that I had observed as an educator,

2074
02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:36,400
Speaker 7: as I taught history to my students, as I felt

2075
02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:40,160
Speaker 7: the true history of our people, and in the system

2076
02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:43,120
Speaker 7: that I was in at that time was in East

2077
02:06:43,120 --> 02:06:46,880
Speaker 7: Saint Louis Public School District of one eighty nine, which

2078
02:06:47,040 --> 02:06:50,880
Speaker 7: actually had a school board that was a majority people

2079
02:06:50,920 --> 02:06:54,040
Speaker 7: of color. But they were, in my humble opinion, were

2080
02:06:54,080 --> 02:06:56,560
Speaker 7: inn app and didn't give a damn about the students.

2081
02:06:56,960 --> 02:06:59,440
Speaker 7: And I say that as an example, my very first

2082
02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:03,840
Speaker 7: school that I had talked began teaching that was Junior

2083
02:07:03,920 --> 02:07:07,960
Speaker 7: High School called Rock Junior High school. First year they had,

2084
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:11,120
Speaker 7: the gymnasium was closed down where the students can do

2085
02:07:11,160 --> 02:07:14,520
Speaker 7: no kind of physical education and had been closed for

2086
02:07:14,600 --> 02:07:17,440
Speaker 7: a couple of years. But I was outraised at it.

2087
02:07:17,560 --> 02:07:21,800
Speaker 7: So I ended up organizing a group of fellow young

2088
02:07:21,920 --> 02:07:25,560
Speaker 7: teachers as myself and we would come in on Saturdays

2089
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:28,640
Speaker 7: to make the kind of repairs that needed to be

2090
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:32,120
Speaker 7: made to get the gym open, which we eventually was

2091
02:07:32,200 --> 02:07:35,040
Speaker 7: able to get it open. We should have been a

2092
02:07:35,080 --> 02:07:39,440
Speaker 7: function of the school board mandating the repairs that needed

2093
02:07:39,480 --> 02:07:45,320
Speaker 7: to peppen at the school. Then subsequently there was a

2094
02:07:45,400 --> 02:07:48,960
Speaker 7: fire at the school which destroyed many parts of the school,

2095
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:53,640
Speaker 7: and I eventually transferred to a high school, East Saint

2096
02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:58,600
Speaker 7: Louis Senior High School. And while this school was populated

2097
02:07:58,640 --> 02:08:04,240
Speaker 7: by hunt two percent black students, eighty percent black staff,

2098
02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:11,120
Speaker 7: twenty percent white staff, and you had a principal who

2099
02:08:12,200 --> 02:08:16,200
Speaker 7: of dark complexion. And back in the day that you

2100
02:08:16,240 --> 02:08:18,760
Speaker 7: know we were growing up, the whole skin thing was

2101
02:08:18,920 --> 02:08:22,560
Speaker 7: real popular where people who are of dark Q were

2102
02:08:22,640 --> 02:08:25,640
Speaker 7: ridiculed and what have you. And I believe in my

2103
02:08:25,840 --> 02:08:30,120
Speaker 7: man psychologically did a damage to different members of our

2104
02:08:30,120 --> 02:08:33,440
Speaker 7: community who were who were of dark Q and I

2105
02:08:33,600 --> 02:08:38,520
Speaker 7: use that example because the principal at that time was

2106
02:08:38,680 --> 02:08:44,320
Speaker 7: so anti us it was shameful and I had to

2107
02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:49,280
Speaker 7: end up doing a public letter where I was critical

2108
02:08:49,400 --> 02:08:54,840
Speaker 7: of him and made and distributed the letter both the

2109
02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:59,320
Speaker 7: students and the teachers. And I was eventually removed from

2110
02:08:59,320 --> 02:09:02,880
Speaker 7: the schools the classroom. But they did not inspire me.

2111
02:09:03,320 --> 02:09:06,080
Speaker 7: But I give you examples of how I said that

2112
02:09:06,200 --> 02:09:09,960
Speaker 7: he ended up hating himself, mind you. Like one of

2113
02:09:10,680 --> 02:09:14,400
Speaker 7: example was going Black History months. I was the chairperson

2114
02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:23,800
Speaker 7: of Social Studies department and we were putting up bulletin

2115
02:09:23,880 --> 02:09:28,000
Speaker 7: boards throughout the school reflective of our history. And the

2116
02:09:28,080 --> 02:09:31,720
Speaker 7: main thought for those bulletin boards, who was to the

2117
02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:34,400
Speaker 7: fact that people were without knowledge of their history, is

2118
02:09:34,440 --> 02:09:37,560
Speaker 7: of people without a foundation. And they had this art

2119
02:09:37,680 --> 02:09:41,240
Speaker 7: teacher that we gave the thought to. They put up

2120
02:09:41,280 --> 02:09:45,800
Speaker 7: the board and it was beautiful boards, including examples of

2121
02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:50,200
Speaker 7: the great civilization out of Egypt, Camet as well as

2122
02:09:50,240 --> 02:09:53,280
Speaker 7: in the front hallway she had a board with a

2123
02:09:53,320 --> 02:09:57,880
Speaker 7: collage of pictures of black posts with a silhouette of Africa.

2124
02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:01,320
Speaker 7: I'm coming out of the art first, never forget this call,

2125
02:10:02,080 --> 02:10:06,240
Speaker 7: and the principal stopped me and he said and your

2126
02:10:06,280 --> 02:10:08,880
Speaker 7: bulletin board, and my man, I'm thinking that he's getting

2127
02:10:08,880 --> 02:10:11,720
Speaker 7: ready to compliment me. Well, he said, ask me, do

2128
02:10:11,840 --> 02:10:15,840
Speaker 7: I feel that it's offensive? I'm saying, how good offensive?

2129
02:10:16,400 --> 02:10:18,440
Speaker 7: He said it weren't no pictures of white folks up

2130
02:10:18,480 --> 02:10:21,240
Speaker 7: on it and that I had to either change it

2131
02:10:21,400 --> 02:10:25,680
Speaker 7: or take it down, which I refused. And during my

2132
02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:29,360
Speaker 7: lunch I always stopped the teachers. You know, I stood

2133
02:10:29,360 --> 02:10:32,480
Speaker 7: in front of the board during my lunch, I was

2134
02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:36,840
Speaker 7: asking other teachers, both black and white teachers, was that offensive?

2135
02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:38,680
Speaker 7: And they looked at me like I was crazy. But

2136
02:10:38,760 --> 02:10:44,160
Speaker 7: that's a reflection that many times we have administrators that

2137
02:10:44,400 --> 02:10:47,800
Speaker 7: do not have a love of the people and really

2138
02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:52,320
Speaker 7: don't give a damn about the children. Also, the following year,

2139
02:10:53,480 --> 02:10:55,320
Speaker 7: and it shocked me, it came to me and asked

2140
02:10:55,320 --> 02:10:58,440
Speaker 7: me to put together a black history program. I was shocked.

2141
02:10:58,480 --> 02:11:01,120
Speaker 7: I said, well, mister Margan to say his name, the

2142
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Speaker 7: only way I'm gonna do it is that I'm going

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02:11:03,880 --> 02:11:07,000
Speaker 7: to write up a schedule of activities that we'll do

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Speaker 7: and which you approve, I'll go forward. So I did

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Speaker 7: that and he agreed with it, and we had a

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02:11:12,560 --> 02:11:16,680
Speaker 7: great inner con system. Just like students could hear as

2147
02:11:16,720 --> 02:11:21,600
Speaker 7: effectively notices as we are talking right now to your audience.

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Speaker 7: And my concept in the morning was to have a

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Speaker 7: positive song and some poetry by the students. So the

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Speaker 7: first day we had the song by Teddy Pinograss, wake

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02:11:35,840 --> 02:11:39,280
Speaker 7: Up Everybody in a Farm. Then the second day though,

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Speaker 7: I had a poem and letters from Birmingham written by

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Speaker 7: doctor King. That afternoon he called me back in the

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Speaker 7: office said, never forget this.

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Speaker 3: She's too much pressure.

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Speaker 7: Too much pressure, got a counsel, too much pressure from

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02:11:55,920 --> 02:11:58,600
Speaker 7: whom you know in terms of I guess the white

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02:11:58,640 --> 02:12:04,800
Speaker 7: staff so and I say I was that. Also another

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02:12:04,920 --> 02:12:07,520
Speaker 7: crazy example at the high school. I had made mention

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Speaker 7: we had fire at the junior high school, you know,

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Speaker 7: but nobody got home. At this high school, the principal

2162
02:12:16,560 --> 02:12:22,120
Speaker 7: had locked every door in the building except the front door,

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Speaker 7: which I challenged him and was sharing that that's the

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Speaker 7: fire has. In fact, I helped put out a fire

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Speaker 7: in the baller room, tapping him put out that fire

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Speaker 7: and I ended up having to have to call the

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02:12:38,120 --> 02:12:41,800
Speaker 7: fire barshep to get it open. Last, but not least,

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Speaker 7: an example which was really crazy at the high school

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Speaker 7: that he had counselor a program for doctor King, and

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Speaker 7: I led the demonstration of the students to protest it.

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Speaker 7: But at the same time we added part of our

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02:12:58,400 --> 02:13:05,640
Speaker 7: protests throughout the there is no working water boxes except

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Speaker 7: for one in front of the office, so we're talking

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Speaker 7: about ten eleven, twelve foxes throughout the building. So we

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02:13:13,480 --> 02:13:16,680
Speaker 7: ended up having to uh and we brought that up

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Speaker 7: to the press, and they end up putting waterfosters throughout

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Speaker 7: the school except for one place by my room. Uh so.

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Speaker 7: And then last but not least uh which really brought

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Speaker 7: it to the point for me enough in terms of

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Speaker 7: during the public letter. Cracking on him was that as

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Speaker 7: an educator, which I firmly believe that needs to happen

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Speaker 7: throughout the school, and I was an advocate part of that.

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Speaker 7: It's that we have to have role model program so

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Speaker 7: today end as an educated many times throughout mind teaching

2185
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Speaker 7: to h time, I would bring in different h what

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Speaker 7: I consider positive role model for our students to encourage

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Speaker 7: them to go on to do positive things in our community,

2188
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Speaker 7: including airline pilots, chemist, doctors, a whole range of folks

2189
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Speaker 7: I would bring in to stimulate the children. And he

2190
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Speaker 7: called me into this office and that I couldnot bring

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Speaker 7: no more educators, I mean no more role I was

2192
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Speaker 7: in excelf without his approval. I agreed to do that.

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Speaker 7: But the day the next day, as he had brought

2194
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Speaker 7: it to my attention, I had a very popular radio

2195
02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:42,320
Speaker 7: talk post like yourself here in the Sat. Louis region

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Speaker 7: to the classroom. I asked permission for Can I do it?

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02:14:47,200 --> 02:14:51,240
Speaker 7: He said, Now. I tried to call the my you know,

2198
02:14:51,840 --> 02:14:55,720
Speaker 7: guess to say that he's been counseled. He came to

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Speaker 7: the school anyway, and I went down to the principal

2200
02:14:59,080 --> 02:15:02,400
Speaker 7: asked him that since I couldn't get uh, you know,

2201
02:15:02,560 --> 02:15:07,160
Speaker 7: lemno of real decision about counseling folks coming in without

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Speaker 7: his approval, and he sill refused to allow him to

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02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:14,760
Speaker 7: speak to my students. So they just tripped me out,

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02:15:14,840 --> 02:15:17,680
Speaker 7: and then I ended up writing this letter. And in

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Speaker 7: that letter I cited a whole lot of descripcies of

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02:15:22,520 --> 02:15:25,720
Speaker 7: tearing in the school system, including what I was saying,

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02:15:26,440 --> 02:15:30,120
Speaker 7: black history programs, how he counseled it, how I had

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02:15:30,160 --> 02:15:34,320
Speaker 7: to called fire Marshall because of the hazard that he

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Speaker 7: had created, and the host of other things. And then

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02:15:37,680 --> 02:15:41,200
Speaker 7: I said to get your head together. You need to

2211
02:15:41,200 --> 02:15:45,120
Speaker 7: come into my classroom each day and read also black

2212
02:15:45,160 --> 02:15:48,919
Speaker 7: skinned white Masks by France for nine and I closed

2213
02:15:48,960 --> 02:15:52,440
Speaker 7: it out as I cited those different incidents were saying

2214
02:15:52,520 --> 02:15:56,920
Speaker 7: that in Japan, people who just honored let people commit suicide.

2215
02:15:57,400 --> 02:16:00,600
Speaker 7: I simply asked of you to change every dying as

2216
02:16:00,640 --> 02:16:02,920
Speaker 7: well as I cited the fact that there had been

2217
02:16:03,600 --> 02:16:09,920
Speaker 7: uh a sexual breakdown, uh more sexual breakdown of uh

2218
02:16:10,080 --> 02:16:12,440
Speaker 7: taking place in the school because there were a number

2219
02:16:12,480 --> 02:16:14,560
Speaker 7: of teachers that were having sexual.

2220
02:16:14,160 --> 02:16:16,280
Speaker 6: Affairs with some of the students.

2221
02:16:16,920 --> 02:16:20,200
Speaker 7: And so the next day after I published that letter

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02:16:20,760 --> 02:16:24,480
Speaker 7: and distributed, you know, I was out there and uh

2223
02:16:24,680 --> 02:16:27,480
Speaker 7: and but God is a good guy. I was not

2224
02:16:27,680 --> 02:16:30,880
Speaker 7: fired and I was placed in another position that ended

2225
02:16:30,960 --> 02:16:35,840
Speaker 7: up really being a positive uh situation for myself to

2226
02:16:35,840 --> 02:16:39,160
Speaker 7: continue my activism, especially in the thanks lois bad. So

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02:16:39,200 --> 02:16:43,360
Speaker 7: that was and and then in terms of the looks

2228
02:16:43,360 --> 02:16:48,800
Speaker 7: of this that I had written. And uh because also

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02:16:49,640 --> 02:16:54,600
Speaker 7: as to educated, that's how situations where teachers just didn't teach,

2230
02:16:54,959 --> 02:16:59,720
Speaker 7: they just did not teach. And UH, so to that

2231
02:17:00,879 --> 02:17:03,600
Speaker 7: as in this book, as I said, challenge the building

2232
02:17:03,640 --> 02:17:07,960
Speaker 7: of a cleaning process black community throughout educational system, as

2233
02:17:08,040 --> 02:17:12,640
Speaker 7: opposed to the conspiracy, and what was the conspiracy? In

2234
02:17:12,840 --> 02:17:19,640
Speaker 7: non perceptive perceptions, the conspiracy was that of stolar There

2235
02:17:19,640 --> 02:17:24,040
Speaker 7: are a lot of good teachers doing our break lunch breaks

2236
02:17:24,440 --> 02:17:27,920
Speaker 7: have you would be talking about all of the negative

2237
02:17:27,959 --> 02:17:30,960
Speaker 7: things that would be a tearing inside of the school system,

2238
02:17:31,480 --> 02:17:36,120
Speaker 7: but was too afraid to speak truth to power. And

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02:17:37,320 --> 02:17:41,640
Speaker 7: also another incident I never forget also I would be

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Speaker 7: digging out at the veryous school with meanings about the

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Speaker 7: different tellings of the buildings in terms of the deterioration

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02:17:51,760 --> 02:17:57,279
Speaker 7: throughout the school's district. And I had really was sportsfullly

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02:17:57,520 --> 02:17:59,880
Speaker 7: addressing that. I never forget. Its called a couple of

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02:18:00,360 --> 02:18:02,959
Speaker 7: later at some event, this principal came up to me.

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02:18:03,680 --> 02:18:07,920
Speaker 7: He was saying, good job, good job, good job. He

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02:18:08,080 --> 02:18:10,440
Speaker 7: can't meeting with that, And then he say, by the way,

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02:18:10,680 --> 02:18:14,039
Speaker 7: do not tell nobody we spoke. So that's the kind

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02:18:14,080 --> 02:18:16,920
Speaker 7: of fear that was also pervasive in the school system

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02:18:16,959 --> 02:18:21,959
Speaker 7: in terms of educators who knew that the system needs

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Speaker 7: to be changed, but was too afraid to address the system.

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Speaker 8: So that well, yeah, let me jump in here twenty

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02:18:28,120 --> 02:18:29,600
Speaker 8: six a way from the top of our family, just

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02:18:29,680 --> 02:18:33,160
Speaker 8: checking in. Our guess is Zaki Brudi. He's reflecting on

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02:18:33,160 --> 02:18:35,440
Speaker 8: his sixty year journey of activistsm and he started out

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Speaker 8: in the educational system as a teacher. Do you think

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02:18:37,760 --> 02:18:40,160
Speaker 8: these what you were telling, the stories you're sharing with

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Speaker 8: us this morning, brother Zaki, where there are the stories

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02:18:43,680 --> 02:18:45,480
Speaker 8: you think of? Similar stories are still going on in

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02:18:45,480 --> 02:18:47,320
Speaker 8: the educational system right now?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely? Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 7: My advocacy is that, first of all, I advocate that

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02:18:55,120 --> 02:19:00,120
Speaker 7: the total curriculum for our people need to be the

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02:19:00,680 --> 02:19:04,560
Speaker 7: change change from this perspective. Number one, we have to

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02:19:04,600 --> 02:19:07,840
Speaker 7: have a curriculum that teaches us teach our people the

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02:19:07,920 --> 02:19:13,039
Speaker 7: true history about people as the great people and the

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02:19:13,120 --> 02:19:16,119
Speaker 7: struggles that we have had within this country. And then

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02:19:16,200 --> 02:19:18,840
Speaker 7: we need to have a curriculum that guys are people

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02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:27,439
Speaker 7: into engineering, into dentistry, into the biological fields, into architects.

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02:19:27,680 --> 02:19:30,800
Speaker 7: Because many of our homes do not have those kinds

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02:19:30,840 --> 02:19:33,560
Speaker 7: of role models in their homes. And so what is

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02:19:34,080 --> 02:19:37,000
Speaker 7: in the school system have our children for the many

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02:19:37,080 --> 02:19:39,960
Speaker 7: hours that they do have them, and what best way

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02:19:40,240 --> 02:19:45,600
Speaker 7: is to create a society of human beings that can

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02:19:47,360 --> 02:19:51,840
Speaker 7: control their own destiny as well as the future architects

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02:19:51,879 --> 02:19:56,360
Speaker 7: for the development of aspat to the highest level is

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02:19:56,400 --> 02:19:59,760
Speaker 7: through our educational system. But of course the system is

2278
02:19:59,800 --> 02:20:03,320
Speaker 7: in has not been designed for that purpose and uh,

2279
02:20:03,520 --> 02:20:06,520
Speaker 7: but we have to expose it. And those teachers who

2280
02:20:06,560 --> 02:20:10,360
Speaker 7: are caught up within the system within their classrooms, they

2281
02:20:10,360 --> 02:20:15,119
Speaker 7: have a lot of leadway to integrate our history within

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02:20:16,000 --> 02:20:19,080
Speaker 7: you know, the curriculum by which they are teachers. But

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02:20:19,200 --> 02:20:21,880
Speaker 7: a lot of times they're just don't a terror and

2284
02:20:22,600 --> 02:20:26,640
Speaker 7: so so yes, I'm an advocate for the change of

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02:20:26,720 --> 02:20:31,160
Speaker 7: the curriculum system throughout America, especially as relates to black people.

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02:20:33,160 --> 02:20:36,480
Speaker 7: Also called on one last thing, another incident a parrot.

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Speaker 18: Uh.

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02:20:37,480 --> 02:20:42,120
Speaker 7: In terms of my journey as an educator, in my

2289
02:20:42,280 --> 02:20:47,240
Speaker 7: efforts to elevate the consciousness of fellow educators, I would

2290
02:20:47,560 --> 02:20:51,280
Speaker 7: reprint different conscious articles I might come across and put

2291
02:20:51,320 --> 02:20:55,359
Speaker 7: it into their mailboxes. And in one instance I had

2292
02:20:56,879 --> 02:21:01,199
Speaker 7: reposted an article about something that was happening in Africa

2293
02:21:01,879 --> 02:21:05,039
Speaker 7: on a negative level as well as.

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02:21:05,000 --> 02:21:07,040
Speaker 8: Right and hold left All right there, Brother Zaki, I

2295
02:21:07,120 --> 02:21:08,360
Speaker 8: like to tell us when we get back, we got

2296
02:21:08,440 --> 02:21:10,160
Speaker 8: to step aside for a few moments. Family, you two

2297
02:21:10,200 --> 02:21:13,160
Speaker 8: can get in on this conversation with brother Zaki Perudi.

2298
02:21:13,320 --> 02:21:16,000
Speaker 8: Brother Zaki is the President General of the University African

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02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:18,760
Speaker 8: People's Organization that based in Saint Louis. You want to

2300
02:21:18,800 --> 02:21:20,600
Speaker 8: join us, reach out to us at eight hundred and

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02:21:20,600 --> 02:21:23,680
Speaker 8: four five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take

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02:21:23,680 --> 02:21:24,640
Speaker 8: your phone calls.

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Speaker 15: Next fourteen fifty WOL. Come now back to the Carl

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02:22:01,800 --> 02:22:02,600
Speaker 15: Nelson Show.

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Speaker 8: Hey, thanks to stay with us on this Tuesday morning. Here,

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02:22:26,920 --> 02:22:29,640
Speaker 8: I guess his brother, Zaki BREWERTI is the President general

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02:22:29,640 --> 02:22:33,279
Speaker 8: of the Universal African People's Organization based in Saint Louis.

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02:22:33,320 --> 02:22:35,200
Speaker 8: Before we go back to let me just remind you, Connor.

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02:22:35,440 --> 02:22:38,320
Speaker 8: Later this week you're going to hear from a clinical psychologist,

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02:22:38,520 --> 02:22:42,520
Speaker 8: doctor Jeromey Fox, also Quasi creator, doctor Milana Kranger will

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02:22:42,560 --> 02:22:44,600
Speaker 8: be here. So if you are in Baltimore, make sure

2312
02:22:44,600 --> 02:22:46,160
Speaker 8: you keep you ready to locked him tight on ten

2313
02:22:46,280 --> 02:22:49,119
Speaker 8: ten WLB or if you're in the DMV family, who

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02:22:49,120 --> 02:22:52,400
Speaker 8: are on fourteen fifty w L. All right, brother Zaki,

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02:22:52,400 --> 02:22:53,879
Speaker 8: how mut you finish your thought? We got some folks

2316
02:22:53,959 --> 02:22:56,640
Speaker 8: got questions of comments for you, Okay.

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02:22:56,360 --> 02:22:59,039
Speaker 7: Before I go in terms of that last incident, also

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02:22:59,120 --> 02:23:01,879
Speaker 7: as an educator, I'll be remiss if I didn't share

2319
02:23:01,959 --> 02:23:04,160
Speaker 7: this that I would be warning along with a couple

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02:23:04,200 --> 02:23:06,840
Speaker 7: of other teachers that would take our students outside of

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02:23:06,879 --> 02:23:13,080
Speaker 7: the classroom for first hand experiences on different educational levels,

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02:23:13,120 --> 02:23:16,160
Speaker 7: like each year for several years we would take them

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02:23:16,240 --> 02:23:18,600
Speaker 7: up to Chicago from EAS Saint Louis and Museum of

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02:23:18,640 --> 02:23:22,560
Speaker 7: Science and Industry. Also as an educator, I eventually took

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Speaker 7: students to Jamaica with me, as well as several students

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02:23:26,520 --> 02:23:31,879
Speaker 7: to Africa, has broaden their experiences. But my incident in

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02:23:31,959 --> 02:23:35,920
Speaker 7: which I just wasn't the share prior to the break

2328
02:23:36,560 --> 02:23:41,400
Speaker 7: was where I was ended up threatened with death. I

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02:23:41,440 --> 02:23:44,560
Speaker 7: couldn't prove it but by a white teacher that I

2330
02:23:44,640 --> 02:23:47,640
Speaker 7: had gotten into it with because he had gave a

2331
02:23:47,760 --> 02:23:50,440
Speaker 7: note to the principal who ended up giving it to

2332
02:23:50,520 --> 02:23:53,840
Speaker 7: me saying that while you allowed mister Barrudi used the

2333
02:23:53,920 --> 02:23:59,200
Speaker 7: school machinery to propagate his propaganda. And then I responded

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02:23:59,280 --> 02:24:02,120
Speaker 7: to him, I'm at that note that the principal given,

2335
02:24:02,600 --> 02:24:06,160
Speaker 7: saying that now the real racist is yourself, especially if

2336
02:24:06,160 --> 02:24:08,480
Speaker 7: you look in the mirror. And then one morning I

2337
02:24:08,520 --> 02:24:12,040
Speaker 7: was coming into my classroom and scrawled across all of

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02:24:12,080 --> 02:24:14,480
Speaker 7: the bulletin board were all kind of curse words and

2339
02:24:14,520 --> 02:24:17,760
Speaker 7: saying that if you continue teaching this madness, you don't

2340
02:24:17,800 --> 02:24:21,119
Speaker 7: be dead, and they gave a date, and of course

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02:24:21,160 --> 02:24:23,200
Speaker 7: I called the principal to come up to look at it,

2342
02:24:23,240 --> 02:24:26,360
Speaker 7: but which you didn't. And then but I was mad.

2343
02:24:26,440 --> 02:24:28,200
Speaker 7: I had to make sure that on that day that

2344
02:24:28,320 --> 02:24:29,959
Speaker 7: I was to die, that I was going to be

2345
02:24:30,040 --> 02:24:34,600
Speaker 7: there fan But and that same teacher eventually was fired

2346
02:24:35,640 --> 02:24:39,760
Speaker 7: for having a sexual relationship with one of the students.

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02:24:40,080 --> 02:24:44,040
Speaker 5: So those I thought, was that a black teacher who

2348
02:24:44,160 --> 02:24:46,440
Speaker 5: was attacking or I no.

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Speaker 7: Doubt that was one of the white teachers. Remember, I

2350
02:24:49,120 --> 02:24:53,320
Speaker 7: said the school had about twenty percent fight staff, which

2351
02:24:53,400 --> 02:24:56,959
Speaker 7: I in my writings I say I also advocate that

2352
02:24:57,000 --> 02:25:00,600
Speaker 7: there's too many white teachers teaching our children. Yeah. Uh,

2353
02:25:00,879 --> 02:25:02,160
Speaker 7: that was with a white teacher.

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Speaker 5: And from the top of that, go ahead, I'm prettysh.

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Speaker 7: After vice president of the local Teachers Union, East Saint

2356
02:25:14,240 --> 02:25:16,000
Speaker 7: Louis Federation of Teachers.

2357
02:25:16,560 --> 02:25:20,800
Speaker 8: Okay, all right, let's let's go to marca At. I'm

2358
02:25:20,920 --> 02:25:23,520
Speaker 8: calling from Baltimore line to Grand Rising Markey on with

2359
02:25:23,640 --> 02:25:24,160
Speaker 8: brothers Ike.

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02:25:25,400 --> 02:25:30,440
Speaker 23: Hey, Grand Rising, guys, Joe, I having this conversation. Uh, brother,

2361
02:25:30,520 --> 02:25:34,120
Speaker 23: do you know brother Bill Gooden here in Baltimore from

2362
02:25:34,120 --> 02:25:40,200
Speaker 23: Saint Louis. Uh, please get in contact with him. They're

2363
02:25:40,200 --> 02:25:44,760
Speaker 23: trying to close the boys' school here in Baltimore, and please,

2364
02:25:44,800 --> 02:25:50,280
Speaker 23: sir go on balk uh Baltimore Collegiate School for Boys

2365
02:25:50,320 --> 02:25:53,840
Speaker 23: dot com. You might want to throw your organization behind that.

2366
02:25:54,160 --> 02:25:55,040
Speaker 23: This is my question.

2367
02:25:55,120 --> 02:25:55,280
Speaker 24: Man.

2368
02:25:55,320 --> 02:25:57,760
Speaker 23: I know in Saint Louis it's a lot of racism

2369
02:25:57,800 --> 02:26:00,320
Speaker 23: and all that kind of stuff. But here in bald More,

2370
02:26:00,560 --> 02:26:04,160
Speaker 23: last ten years, the superintendent and everybody looks like us

2371
02:26:04,440 --> 02:26:07,240
Speaker 23: that's making decisions. But me and Bill and all of

2372
02:26:07,320 --> 02:26:09,640
Speaker 23: us have to go up to the city hall a

2373
02:26:09,760 --> 02:26:13,360
Speaker 23: fight to keep a boys school open in Baltimore, just

2374
02:26:13,400 --> 02:26:16,480
Speaker 23: doing good. And when the number one pill of our

2375
02:26:16,560 --> 02:26:22,120
Speaker 23: boys in Baltimore is murder, why would they want to

2376
02:26:22,160 --> 02:26:25,400
Speaker 23: close that? Man, everybody looked like us here in Baltimore.

2377
02:26:26,240 --> 02:26:28,440
Speaker 23: It's making these bad business with our store.

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02:26:30,600 --> 02:26:33,480
Speaker 5: Okay to responds, thank you.

2379
02:26:33,959 --> 02:26:36,600
Speaker 7: First of all, Mark, I do know Bill. We have

2380
02:26:36,680 --> 02:26:42,000
Speaker 7: a long relationship in terms of activism here in Saint Louis,

2381
02:26:42,040 --> 02:26:45,920
Speaker 7: and I know he's very active in Baltimore. And Ray

2382
02:26:46,000 --> 02:26:49,800
Speaker 7: Murphy I know about the Uh. The efforts to close

2383
02:26:49,879 --> 02:26:53,480
Speaker 7: that school was his A damn shame, Uh, especially as

2384
02:26:53,520 --> 02:26:57,400
Speaker 7: you mentioned the murder rate that occurs in our community.

2385
02:26:58,760 --> 02:27:01,119
Speaker 7: But we have to understand and you know, it's not

2386
02:27:01,320 --> 02:27:04,039
Speaker 7: just a race struggle that we have. Also we have

2387
02:27:04,120 --> 02:27:08,440
Speaker 7: a class struggle. And as I was mentioning, as an educator,

2388
02:27:09,879 --> 02:27:14,920
Speaker 7: we had a predominantly school board with people of color,

2389
02:27:15,720 --> 02:27:18,720
Speaker 7: but by and large, from my analysis, they didn't give

2390
02:27:18,760 --> 02:27:21,760
Speaker 7: a damn about the children or they would not allowed

2391
02:27:21,760 --> 02:27:26,120
Speaker 7: these school buildings to deteriorate. And they knew that a

2392
02:27:26,120 --> 02:27:30,720
Speaker 7: lot of the teachers weren't really teaching, and they did

2393
02:27:30,720 --> 02:27:34,400
Speaker 7: not put into place a curriculum to really address those issues.

2394
02:27:34,920 --> 02:27:37,920
Speaker 7: So it's a class struggle. We have some of our

2395
02:27:37,959 --> 02:27:42,800
Speaker 7: people who just don't give a damn. Are they are?

2396
02:27:42,879 --> 02:27:47,840
Speaker 7: They are not conscious enough to do the right thing.

2397
02:27:48,600 --> 02:27:51,279
Speaker 7: So what we have to do, and I always challenge

2398
02:27:52,480 --> 02:27:56,120
Speaker 7: all of the activists that's out here. We can't just

2399
02:27:56,160 --> 02:27:59,400
Speaker 7: sit by and just complain about what is being done

2400
02:27:59,520 --> 02:28:02,200
Speaker 7: by some of by elected officials who look like us.

2401
02:28:02,520 --> 02:28:05,760
Speaker 7: If we see somebody who's not about the business of

2402
02:28:07,720 --> 02:28:10,680
Speaker 7: caring for our community, then we have to challenge them.

2403
02:28:10,920 --> 02:28:14,680
Speaker 7: And to that end, that's whereas an organization on another side,

2404
02:28:15,080 --> 02:28:18,080
Speaker 7: the University of African People's Organization, which I'm the head,

2405
02:28:18,120 --> 02:28:20,120
Speaker 7: and I use the title president in general and the

2406
02:28:20,160 --> 02:28:23,400
Speaker 7: spirit of the honorable markets must I guard it is

2407
02:28:23,400 --> 02:28:29,640
Speaker 7: that we got to fight for a qualified, loving people

2408
02:28:30,400 --> 02:28:34,480
Speaker 7: of our community to be in positions of power, and

2409
02:28:34,600 --> 02:28:39,359
Speaker 7: so in many instances that just isn't the situation. And accordingly,

2410
02:28:39,400 --> 02:28:44,359
Speaker 7: our organization also calls for what we say proportionate political representation,

2411
02:28:44,920 --> 02:28:47,480
Speaker 7: which them to means that whatever percentage we are is

2412
02:28:47,520 --> 02:28:50,640
Speaker 7: a people on the national, state, and local levels of government,

2413
02:28:51,040 --> 02:28:54,800
Speaker 7: then we should have that percentage of political power. Actually,

2414
02:28:54,840 --> 02:28:58,760
Speaker 7: all across America, they say it's a half million elected additions,

2415
02:28:59,280 --> 02:29:02,760
Speaker 7: and we all they is projected that we're fourteen percent

2416
02:29:02,840 --> 02:29:05,920
Speaker 7: of the population, and yet we only have about five

2417
02:29:06,120 --> 02:29:11,080
Speaker 7: six seven total percent of the elected position, which again

2418
02:29:11,240 --> 02:29:15,240
Speaker 7: takes taxt dollars out of our community as well as

2419
02:29:15,400 --> 02:29:17,800
Speaker 7: we are not able to shape the kind of public

2420
02:29:17,840 --> 02:29:21,560
Speaker 7: policy that needs to care. But we're not just advocating

2421
02:29:21,600 --> 02:29:25,360
Speaker 7: for quantity, which we should have, but we also have

2422
02:29:25,440 --> 02:29:29,600
Speaker 7: to have quality leadership, and that's what's lacking, and that's

2423
02:29:29,640 --> 02:29:32,560
Speaker 7: what's happening, and I would encourage y'all to continue to

2424
02:29:32,720 --> 02:29:36,640
Speaker 7: do it, putting pressure on the people who make that

2425
02:29:36,800 --> 02:29:39,760
Speaker 7: decision whether or not the school should stay open or closed.

2426
02:29:40,240 --> 02:29:43,280
Speaker 7: So I hope I answered your question all right.

2427
02:29:43,480 --> 02:29:45,400
Speaker 8: Twelve away from the top of the are with brother

2428
02:29:45,520 --> 02:29:48,039
Speaker 8: Jackey Brudi. Jonathan is joining us from Long Beach. He's

2429
02:29:48,040 --> 02:29:51,279
Speaker 8: online three grand rising Jonathan, you're only brother Jacky Brudi.

2430
02:29:53,120 --> 02:29:54,920
Speaker 25: Good morning, can you and you guess hear me?

2431
02:29:55,000 --> 02:30:01,680
Speaker 6: Okay, yes, yes, Ms Brudy.

2432
02:30:02,520 --> 02:30:05,760
Speaker 25: As a former campus security officer working for the Long

2433
02:30:05,800 --> 02:30:10,280
Speaker 25: Beach Unified two District down in California and Longbea, I

2434
02:30:10,400 --> 02:30:14,560
Speaker 25: know how the administrators and the teachers and the counselors

2435
02:30:14,560 --> 02:30:20,519
Speaker 25: that look like us and our children don't get the

2436
02:30:20,520 --> 02:30:23,720
Speaker 25: the history. But fortunately I was one of the staff

2437
02:30:23,760 --> 02:30:27,800
Speaker 25: members as a campus security officer that carried about twenty books.

2438
02:30:27,440 --> 02:30:28,440
Speaker 26: With me every day.

2439
02:30:28,959 --> 02:30:31,160
Speaker 25: So when the young brothers and sisters thought they was

2440
02:30:33,200 --> 02:30:35,040
Speaker 25: and want to hang out with the security, they was

2441
02:30:35,080 --> 02:30:38,039
Speaker 25: actually going to a different class and I would give

2442
02:30:38,080 --> 02:30:42,400
Speaker 25: them the history from seven from seven hundred AD all

2443
02:30:42,400 --> 02:30:44,160
Speaker 25: the way up eighteen.

2444
02:30:43,840 --> 02:30:55,040
Speaker 8: Sixty jo with us. Yeah, she's like it's called dropped. Yeah,

2445
02:30:55,560 --> 02:30:58,640
Speaker 8: interesting for security to god to befriend of students and

2446
02:30:59,200 --> 02:31:02,720
Speaker 8: try to enlighten them. Jonathan, if you're still there, calls

2447
02:31:02,760 --> 02:31:05,600
Speaker 8: back if your call drop, But I guess you wanted

2448
02:31:05,640 --> 02:31:08,000
Speaker 8: you to reflect on that what he was doing his

2449
02:31:08,600 --> 02:31:12,160
Speaker 8: advocacy on campus with our young children.

2450
02:31:13,080 --> 02:31:15,520
Speaker 7: I just wanted to salute him. And that's what we

2451
02:31:15,600 --> 02:31:20,320
Speaker 7: need from everybody of anybody of consciousness, each one teach

2452
02:31:20,440 --> 02:31:23,760
Speaker 7: one concept. We got to reach our young people, because

2453
02:31:24,200 --> 02:31:28,080
Speaker 7: if we don't reach our young people and guide them

2454
02:31:28,080 --> 02:31:31,039
Speaker 7: on the right road, that person may be that person

2455
02:31:31,160 --> 02:31:34,279
Speaker 7: who put a pistol to your head or who uh

2456
02:31:34,680 --> 02:31:37,200
Speaker 7: uh put a pistol to your daughter's here or your

2457
02:31:37,240 --> 02:31:41,280
Speaker 7: mother's head, you know, and and do something crazy. So

2458
02:31:42,000 --> 02:31:48,480
Speaker 7: that's the great important that any conscious person out here

2459
02:31:48,959 --> 02:31:52,720
Speaker 7: each day should try to touch somebody on the positive side.

2460
02:31:52,760 --> 02:31:57,160
Speaker 7: That relates to elevating their consciousness, both at the level

2461
02:31:57,280 --> 02:32:01,400
Speaker 7: of knowing your history as well doing something good in

2462
02:32:01,480 --> 02:32:05,520
Speaker 7: our community to uplift those who are less fortunate than dispel.

2463
02:32:06,320 --> 02:32:08,560
Speaker 7: So that's part of our epicacique.

2464
02:32:09,200 --> 02:32:13,480
Speaker 8: Yes, sir, Jonathan's called back. Great to Jonathan. I'll let

2465
02:32:13,520 --> 02:32:15,640
Speaker 8: you finish your question or your comment for brother's I Q.

2466
02:32:17,560 --> 02:32:20,920
Speaker 24: Okay, thank you brother called so, I'm just speed this up.

2467
02:32:22,160 --> 02:32:24,400
Speaker 24: Those teachers would run for me. They didn't want no

2468
02:32:24,480 --> 02:32:26,680
Speaker 24: parts of it. They scared of the eye man skinned

2469
02:32:26,680 --> 02:32:30,920
Speaker 24: of the school board whatever it is. However, uh, you've

2470
02:32:30,959 --> 02:32:35,240
Speaker 24: brought up doctor Karan and doctor Karnga put together a

2471
02:32:35,440 --> 02:32:41,080
Speaker 24: manual for for the school district that teaches the clips

2472
02:32:41,160 --> 02:32:43,959
Speaker 24: is taught on a Saturday and they get college credit

2473
02:32:44,000 --> 02:32:52,039
Speaker 24: for it. But in his manual, Wow.

2474
02:32:52,120 --> 02:32:54,200
Speaker 8: Like Jonathan lost Jonathan again.

2475
02:32:54,920 --> 02:32:57,800
Speaker 24: So maybe you can ask also doctor Krane about it.

2476
02:32:57,879 --> 02:32:59,480
Speaker 7: But what what.

2477
02:32:59,520 --> 02:33:03,120
Speaker 24: Could be done to get the teachers, our teachers to

2478
02:33:03,160 --> 02:33:07,080
Speaker 24: be able to teach other than the standardized issues that

2479
02:33:07,120 --> 02:33:08,160
Speaker 24: they give our students.

2480
02:33:08,160 --> 02:33:12,440
Speaker 7: Thank you? Okay, First of all, John, I don't know

2481
02:33:12,480 --> 02:33:15,280
Speaker 7: if you had heard I had a complimented you for

2482
02:33:15,760 --> 02:33:18,800
Speaker 7: doing what you have done as far as trying to

2483
02:33:19,080 --> 02:33:21,840
Speaker 7: guide our young people on the right path and as

2484
02:33:21,840 --> 02:33:24,960
Speaker 7: well as provide knowledge of our true history. You know,

2485
02:33:25,440 --> 02:33:29,000
Speaker 7: one of the things that I advocated in my writings

2486
02:33:29,080 --> 02:33:33,840
Speaker 7: around education is that we need to re educate those

2487
02:33:34,120 --> 02:33:39,879
Speaker 7: educators coming into the school system. Everybody that comes into

2488
02:33:39,920 --> 02:33:48,119
Speaker 7: our school system are to have a test, standardized tests

2489
02:33:48,720 --> 02:33:50,920
Speaker 7: in terms of that knowledge of the history of our

2490
02:33:51,000 --> 02:33:56,039
Speaker 7: people and as a beginning before they get before our children.

2491
02:33:56,680 --> 02:33:58,920
Speaker 7: And so that's to me, it's one of the key

2492
02:33:59,000 --> 02:34:00,119
Speaker 7: steps that needs.

2493
02:34:00,080 --> 02:34:03,480
Speaker 27: To happen if we were to have an educational system

2494
02:34:03,560 --> 02:34:08,840
Speaker 27: that really, truly uh is about the business of educating

2495
02:34:08,840 --> 02:34:13,520
Speaker 27: our young people, Paul, if I made all of my

2496
02:34:13,640 --> 02:34:17,120
Speaker 27: rights going back to the conspiracy concept, could I read

2497
02:34:17,200 --> 02:34:22,120
Speaker 27: a couple of paragraphs that wire College the conspiracy.

2498
02:34:22,560 --> 02:34:24,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, do it quickly for us, all right?

2499
02:34:26,480 --> 02:34:30,560
Speaker 7: And I say conspiracy is any concurrence in action, combination

2500
02:34:30,680 --> 02:34:33,640
Speaker 7: bringing about a given result, And that came from the

2501
02:34:33,720 --> 02:34:37,360
Speaker 7: random college house college a dictionary. I go on to say,

2502
02:34:37,480 --> 02:34:41,160
Speaker 7: we educated, we community people have allowed ourselves to become

2503
02:34:41,280 --> 02:34:46,040
Speaker 7: part of a great conspiracy that would perpetuate hard, ongoing

2504
02:34:46,120 --> 02:34:49,600
Speaker 7: repetussion for our communities for now in the future. What

2505
02:34:49,800 --> 02:34:53,280
Speaker 7: is the conspiracy is a conspiracy of silence within the

2506
02:34:53,320 --> 02:34:57,480
Speaker 7: halls of our educational institutions. Is a conspiracy of silence.

2507
02:34:57,520 --> 02:35:00,600
Speaker 7: That is a community people and education ages we are

2508
02:35:00,640 --> 02:35:03,720
Speaker 7: able to sit still in our very students constantly coming

2509
02:35:03,720 --> 02:35:08,000
Speaker 7: through our educational gates, but leaving its functional illiterates, therefore

2510
02:35:08,120 --> 02:35:12,879
Speaker 7: perpetrating ignorance throughout the community. Is a community of silence.

2511
02:35:13,360 --> 02:35:15,760
Speaker 7: Conspiracy of silence. When we allow all the filth and

2512
02:35:16,080 --> 02:35:19,080
Speaker 7: cleanliness to pervade many of our schools, it is the

2513
02:35:19,120 --> 02:35:22,680
Speaker 7: conspiracy of silence where we are able to utterly look

2514
02:35:22,760 --> 02:35:26,000
Speaker 7: on as some of our fellow colleagues make no pretense

2515
02:35:26,080 --> 02:35:30,720
Speaker 7: of providing any mind motivating education within their classrooms. It

2516
02:35:30,840 --> 02:35:35,439
Speaker 7: is a conspiracy of silence when we community and educators

2517
02:35:35,440 --> 02:35:39,120
Speaker 7: fail to utter any even as we protest about the

2518
02:35:39,200 --> 02:35:42,440
Speaker 7: lack of mental discipline among our children. Look about and

2519
02:35:42,440 --> 02:35:45,840
Speaker 7: see all the forms of disrespect occurring each day. This

2520
02:35:46,000 --> 02:35:49,039
Speaker 7: break down the morality extends into the greater community. Look

2521
02:35:49,080 --> 02:35:52,200
Speaker 7: at all the murders, muggins, rapes, and failths that care

2522
02:35:52,280 --> 02:35:55,240
Speaker 7: within our community. It is a community of silence when

2523
02:35:55,280 --> 02:35:59,000
Speaker 7: we fail to question for our educational institutions that failed

2524
02:35:59,000 --> 02:36:02,160
Speaker 7: to produce intellect actuals who can create and build gigantic

2525
02:36:02,200 --> 02:36:06,840
Speaker 7: buildings with businesses and financial institutions for our own prosperities.

2526
02:36:07,320 --> 02:36:10,960
Speaker 7: It is a conspiracy silence that all progressive minded politicians

2527
02:36:10,959 --> 02:36:14,480
Speaker 7: have failed to attack an institution which fails itself to

2528
02:36:14,520 --> 02:36:19,920
Speaker 7: produce massive number of aggressive and politically conscious constituents. How

2529
02:36:19,959 --> 02:36:22,760
Speaker 7: can our students function at this level if their minds

2530
02:36:22,760 --> 02:36:26,240
Speaker 7: aren't politically developed. It is a conspiracy of silence that

2531
02:36:26,320 --> 02:36:30,960
Speaker 7: the community allows qualified and capable people to be bypassed

2532
02:36:30,959 --> 02:36:34,520
Speaker 7: for a key policy making decisions within the educational system

2533
02:36:34,959 --> 02:36:39,000
Speaker 7: by any f and non functional political appointments. It is

2534
02:36:39,160 --> 02:36:41,600
Speaker 7: conspiracy of silence. There is a community we do not

2535
02:36:41,760 --> 02:36:46,840
Speaker 7: demand of our educational institutions accountability, accountability as the relations

2536
02:36:46,920 --> 02:36:50,879
Speaker 7: to the president, future preparation of strong positive minds for

2537
02:36:50,959 --> 02:36:55,680
Speaker 7: the development of the African American community. There is a crazy,

2538
02:36:55,920 --> 02:37:00,600
Speaker 7: frightening and dangerous conspiracy of silence throughout our community. Then

2539
02:37:00,640 --> 02:37:04,039
Speaker 7: I say the silence must be ended. So that's the

2540
02:37:04,240 --> 02:37:08,240
Speaker 7: kind of the form, whether my writings, which is the

2541
02:37:08,480 --> 02:37:11,760
Speaker 7: challenge to building of acclaim processus Black communities for our

2542
02:37:11,879 --> 02:37:15,320
Speaker 7: educational system as opposed to thank.

2543
02:37:15,200 --> 02:37:15,959
Speaker 6: You for allowing me.

2544
02:37:16,680 --> 02:37:18,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, let me ask you this, though, do you think

2545
02:37:18,200 --> 02:37:21,080
Speaker 8: that's an extension that no stitule in our community We

2546
02:37:21,240 --> 02:37:23,520
Speaker 8: just don't, you know, we just don't talk about stuff.

2547
02:37:23,520 --> 02:37:27,640
Speaker 8: We just hope that somebody else will solve the problem.

2548
02:37:27,800 --> 02:37:32,600
Speaker 7: Oh well, but that's only different. Yeah, I guess you

2549
02:37:32,640 --> 02:37:38,360
Speaker 7: can say. But what I'm saying though, these people know

2550
02:37:38,840 --> 02:37:43,360
Speaker 7: what's going on, but they are just too afraid to

2551
02:37:43,480 --> 02:37:45,920
Speaker 7: say something. And I guess that's the same thing though

2552
02:37:45,920 --> 02:37:50,200
Speaker 7: as missing in the sense that they might be afraid

2553
02:37:50,240 --> 02:37:53,240
Speaker 7: for their life if they scare up whether it has happened,

2554
02:37:53,600 --> 02:37:56,720
Speaker 7: So I guess they're kind of close together, all right.

2555
02:37:56,680 --> 02:37:58,320
Speaker 8: Oh that thought right there. We gotta step aside for

2556
02:37:58,320 --> 02:38:01,039
Speaker 8: a few moments. Stations can identify themselves down the line

2557
02:38:01,040 --> 02:38:03,600
Speaker 8: per the FCC. We come back, though, Let's get into

2558
02:38:03,760 --> 02:38:07,240
Speaker 8: your activism in Saint Louis, in the streets of Saint Louis,

2559
02:38:07,360 --> 02:38:09,560
Speaker 8: what you have done and what you continue to do

2560
02:38:09,920 --> 02:38:13,039
Speaker 8: with your group, the Universal of African People's Organization Family.

2561
02:38:13,080 --> 02:38:15,520
Speaker 8: You want to join this conversation with brother Zachi Brewery,

2562
02:38:15,560 --> 02:38:17,879
Speaker 8: he's the President general of the group. Reach out to

2563
02:38:17,959 --> 02:38:21,720
Speaker 8: us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six,

2564
02:38:21,760 --> 02:38:23,080
Speaker 8: and we'll take your phone calls.

2565
02:38:22,959 --> 02:39:01,720
Speaker 15: Next fourteen fifty, WOL fifteen, WOL, Washington, d C ninety

2566
02:39:01,720 --> 02:39:04,160
Speaker 15: five point nine, W two four zero d J.

2567
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Speaker 2: W M M j H D three, w d C

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Speaker 8: is Brother Zaki Brudy is the Presidentiality Universal of African

2583
02:40:19,000 --> 02:40:22,080
Speaker 8: People's Organizations based in Saint Louis, and he's an activist.

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02:40:22,240 --> 02:40:24,520
Speaker 8: He's given us a journey his life journey when he

2585
02:40:24,600 --> 02:40:27,440
Speaker 8: started as an educator to an activist in Saint Louis.

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02:40:27,440 --> 02:40:29,200
Speaker 8: So we're on the streets of Saint Louis. That's where

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Speaker 8: his office is right now. So Brother Zaki, I'll let

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02:40:31,560 --> 02:40:34,000
Speaker 8: you take it away, okay.

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Speaker 7: In terms of our organization here in Saint Louis, some

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02:40:37,800 --> 02:40:40,280
Speaker 7: of the things that we've done, first of all, we

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02:40:40,400 --> 02:40:44,560
Speaker 7: push I think this is one of the most progressive

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02:40:44,640 --> 02:40:48,959
Speaker 7: political thoughts that need to be spreaded across the country,

2593
02:40:48,959 --> 02:40:52,920
Speaker 7: and that's the concept of proportionate political representation and that

2594
02:40:53,000 --> 02:40:59,600
Speaker 7: came about through us organizing Missouri's first statewide Black People's

2595
02:41:00,440 --> 02:41:04,840
Speaker 7: Convention in nineteen eighty four. Our organization actually was formed

2596
02:41:05,200 --> 02:41:09,440
Speaker 7: as the Universe African People's Organization April fourth, nineteen eighty nine,

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02:41:09,920 --> 02:41:14,640
Speaker 7: but prior to that as an organization I chaired at

2598
02:41:14,640 --> 02:41:17,760
Speaker 7: that time called the Carcass for Community Progress. As I mentioned,

2599
02:41:17,800 --> 02:41:21,800
Speaker 7: we organized Missouri's first state wide Black people's political convention,

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02:41:22,520 --> 02:41:25,920
Speaker 7: and we had three purposes for that convention. One was

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02:41:25,959 --> 02:41:29,879
Speaker 7: to educate whoever was in attendance to state politics. Second

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02:41:30,000 --> 02:41:33,599
Speaker 7: was the drop of platform of concerns impact in Black Missourians.

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02:41:33,879 --> 02:41:36,920
Speaker 7: And the third was to encourage black people to run statewide.

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02:41:36,959 --> 02:41:41,520
Speaker 7: Because in nineteen eighty four, out of fifty governments in

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02:41:41,560 --> 02:41:45,480
Speaker 7: this country, not one was black, and out of one

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02:41:45,560 --> 02:41:49,480
Speaker 7: hundred United States Senators, not one was black. So effectively,

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02:41:49,520 --> 02:41:52,240
Speaker 7: of the one hundred and fifty most powerful positions of

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02:41:52,280 --> 02:41:55,680
Speaker 7: this country, it was zero, even though black, even though

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02:41:55,680 --> 02:42:00,760
Speaker 7: we were rejected to be thirteen percent of the population. Attendants,

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02:42:00,800 --> 02:42:04,280
Speaker 7: we had a number of locally elected officials and state

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02:42:04,720 --> 02:42:08,440
Speaker 7: state centers and a Congressman of Clay and we brought

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02:42:08,440 --> 02:42:12,800
Speaker 7: in a Congressman, Lewis Stokes from Ohio, and we had

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02:42:12,840 --> 02:42:16,920
Speaker 7: a couple hundred people in attendance. We accomplished the first

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02:42:17,000 --> 02:42:20,800
Speaker 7: two tasks, that was to educate those folks who was

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02:42:20,840 --> 02:42:23,080
Speaker 7: in the tendance to state politics, and we drew up

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02:42:23,080 --> 02:42:28,520
Speaker 7: a platform concerns impacting blacks. But we were again advocating

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02:42:28,560 --> 02:42:32,800
Speaker 7: for folks to run statewide. We couldn't get nobody to

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02:42:32,920 --> 02:42:35,760
Speaker 7: run statewide. Like for government recently, we were going to

2619
02:42:35,920 --> 02:42:39,080
Speaker 7: challenge the power structures at every level. Couse, we had

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02:42:39,360 --> 02:42:43,680
Speaker 7: five state wide elected positions Governor, lieutenant Government, Secretary of state,

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02:42:43,720 --> 02:42:47,160
Speaker 7: state Church, and state auditors. But we got pushed back,

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02:42:47,200 --> 02:42:49,760
Speaker 7: so we said we just go for one position, that's

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02:42:49,800 --> 02:42:53,039
Speaker 7: the governor. As I mentioned though, we brought it to

2624
02:42:53,160 --> 02:42:57,360
Speaker 7: all the elected officials and attendance and outside of those

2625
02:42:57,400 --> 02:43:00,800
Speaker 7: who had not was in present and getting nobody in.

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02:43:00,959 --> 02:43:03,320
Speaker 7: So that's how I ended up running for a governor

2627
02:43:03,440 --> 02:43:08,119
Speaker 7: state of Missouri. Subsequently, out of I was the only

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02:43:08,160 --> 02:43:13,199
Speaker 7: black candidate among six white males with three real powerful,

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02:43:13,280 --> 02:43:17,920
Speaker 7: already elected officials who were the Steen, Lieutenant governor of

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02:43:17,920 --> 02:43:22,760
Speaker 7: the state treasurer, and President pro tem of the Missouri Senate.

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02:43:23,440 --> 02:43:25,480
Speaker 7: But out of the seven, I came at fourth. I

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02:43:25,520 --> 02:43:28,400
Speaker 7: felt I could do better a second time. I ran

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02:43:28,440 --> 02:43:32,320
Speaker 7: the second time in nineteen eighty and received shocked a

2634
02:43:32,400 --> 02:43:35,840
Speaker 7: lot of the political pundits because I received over nineteen

2635
02:43:35,959 --> 02:43:38,840
Speaker 7: percent of the vote total in a state that was

2636
02:43:38,959 --> 02:43:42,440
Speaker 7: only a temperment black in Missouri at that time. But

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02:43:42,600 --> 02:43:46,199
Speaker 7: also during that time both times I ran, Jesse Jackson

2638
02:43:46,240 --> 02:43:49,520
Speaker 7: was running for President of the United States my second term,

2639
02:43:49,640 --> 02:43:53,800
Speaker 7: Minister Lewis Farreton ended up coming to endorge my candidacy.

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02:43:53,879 --> 02:43:56,360
Speaker 7: I think he was one of the first people. He

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02:43:56,800 --> 02:44:01,680
Speaker 7: elected me publicly supported as a political candidate. And out

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02:44:01,680 --> 02:44:04,960
Speaker 7: of that race my comrades, who is with me part

2643
02:44:04,959 --> 02:44:08,240
Speaker 7: of my campaign team, we wanted to continue to struggle.

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02:44:08,320 --> 02:44:12,200
Speaker 7: So we formed the Universal African People's Organization on April

2645
02:44:12,240 --> 02:44:16,000
Speaker 7: the fourth, and we chose that deliberately coast April the fourth,

2646
02:44:16,400 --> 02:44:20,520
Speaker 7: of course, it's the assassination date of doctor King. And

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02:44:20,879 --> 02:44:23,840
Speaker 7: from that moment one we have been very involved on

2648
02:44:23,879 --> 02:44:28,440
Speaker 7: a lot of different levels. Internationally. We have done a

2649
02:44:28,480 --> 02:44:31,320
Speaker 7: lot of positive work on an international level, on the

2650
02:44:31,440 --> 02:44:35,600
Speaker 7: national level, as well as locally locally. I'm gonna hit

2651
02:44:35,640 --> 02:44:39,960
Speaker 7: the East Point if I may. Locally, our organization has

2652
02:44:40,000 --> 02:44:43,039
Speaker 7: been part had been part for a number of years

2653
02:44:43,480 --> 02:44:47,040
Speaker 7: with a coalition that was called the Coalition against police

2654
02:44:47,080 --> 02:44:51,039
Speaker 7: Clients and Repression, which I was the co chair, and

2655
02:44:51,160 --> 02:44:54,279
Speaker 7: we had to address over the years, starting in nineteen

2656
02:44:54,320 --> 02:44:57,320
Speaker 7: eighty three all the way up into the Mike Brown

2657
02:44:57,440 --> 02:45:01,480
Speaker 7: murder and assassination in twenty fourteen, a variety of a

2658
02:45:01,600 --> 02:45:06,520
Speaker 7: high profile police killings in the Saint Louis area, including

2659
02:45:06,520 --> 02:45:10,280
Speaker 7: the infamous killing of a sister named Reland Banks, who

2660
02:45:10,280 --> 02:45:12,800
Speaker 7: had sitting on her push mining her own business when

2661
02:45:12,959 --> 02:45:17,320
Speaker 7: this racist white police officer was chasing another sister throughout

2662
02:45:17,320 --> 02:45:20,680
Speaker 7: the neighborhood, I mean, on this street and put this

2663
02:45:20,800 --> 02:45:23,720
Speaker 7: pistol out shot at her, but missed her and shot

2664
02:45:23,760 --> 02:45:27,520
Speaker 7: and killed the innocent sister name Merlon Banks. As I mentioned,

2665
02:45:28,040 --> 02:45:31,920
Speaker 7: So we've been you know, a different high profile cases.

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02:45:31,959 --> 02:45:36,039
Speaker 7: We've been on the case addressing those issues. We also

2667
02:45:37,640 --> 02:45:43,279
Speaker 7: do work as far as working with a homeless advocate, preacher,

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02:45:43,360 --> 02:45:47,240
Speaker 7: a white advocate in fact, on the streets helping our

2669
02:45:47,280 --> 02:45:53,240
Speaker 7: homeless brothers and sisters. Along with that, going back politically,

2670
02:45:53,360 --> 02:45:56,280
Speaker 7: we have encouraged people throughout the years to run for

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02:45:56,959 --> 02:46:00,600
Speaker 7: political office such as governor, lieutenant governor. Every years since

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02:46:00,640 --> 02:46:04,240
Speaker 7: that time I ran, we at least had a candidate

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02:46:04,320 --> 02:46:08,440
Speaker 7: symbolically running state wag and in fact, one of our

2674
02:46:08,480 --> 02:46:13,600
Speaker 7: local she rows who first got her political baptism by us,

2675
02:46:13,680 --> 02:46:19,480
Speaker 7: actually had to run for United States Senate Corey Bush,

2676
02:46:19,800 --> 02:46:24,680
Speaker 7: who eventually was elected congresswoman, first black congresswoman here in

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02:46:24,760 --> 02:46:27,400
Speaker 7: the state of Missouri. And that's so that was part

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02:46:27,400 --> 02:46:34,080
Speaker 7: of our political peace. We also when Jackson, Mississippi was

2679
02:46:34,160 --> 02:46:38,280
Speaker 7: hit with their water system going out, I'm poud to

2680
02:46:38,320 --> 02:46:42,960
Speaker 7: say that we donated over two thousand cases of water,

2681
02:46:43,360 --> 02:46:46,360
Speaker 7: you know, to the black community there. As well as

2682
02:46:46,400 --> 02:46:49,320
Speaker 7: when COVID hit, we were able to work with some

2683
02:46:49,440 --> 02:46:52,600
Speaker 7: formers in the South Wind brought in over one hundred

2684
02:46:52,640 --> 02:46:55,360
Speaker 7: and forty four thousand dollars worth for products to give

2685
02:46:55,360 --> 02:46:57,920
Speaker 7: out to the people, you know, in the neighborhoods during

2686
02:46:57,920 --> 02:47:04,680
Speaker 7: that period of time. Now we also have adopted one

2687
02:47:04,720 --> 02:47:08,600
Speaker 7: of the local elementary schools in the Hardhead depressed area

2688
02:47:08,640 --> 02:47:13,080
Speaker 7: of the city, which is Wallbridge Elementary School, and each

2689
02:47:13,160 --> 02:47:18,160
Speaker 7: year we provide school supplies at the beginning of the

2690
02:47:18,240 --> 02:47:23,080
Speaker 7: school year, as well as just recently we donated hundreds

2691
02:47:23,120 --> 02:47:28,440
Speaker 7: of caps, gloves, underwear, those kinds of things to the

2692
02:47:28,480 --> 02:47:32,120
Speaker 7: students who are very in need in those areas. Also

2693
02:47:32,280 --> 02:47:34,760
Speaker 7: the last couple of years we have adopted a high

2694
02:47:34,800 --> 02:47:38,480
Speaker 7: school in this area called Normandy High School, and during

2695
02:47:38,560 --> 02:47:43,400
Speaker 7: Black History months we donate books to the senior class

2696
02:47:43,440 --> 02:47:47,440
Speaker 7: of that particular school. Our first year, we donated one

2697
02:47:47,480 --> 02:47:54,680
Speaker 7: hundred fifty copies of the autobiography of Malcolm X. This

2698
02:47:54,840 --> 02:47:57,600
Speaker 7: year in Premburg and we have a black history program

2699
02:47:57,680 --> 02:48:02,360
Speaker 7: done so this year we donated in February by one

2700
02:48:02,440 --> 02:48:07,279
Speaker 7: hundred and fifty fifty four copies of the book written

2701
02:48:07,320 --> 02:48:11,240
Speaker 7: by Sister Soldier, The Coldest Winner Ever. And then, upon

2702
02:48:11,400 --> 02:48:15,520
Speaker 7: the recommendation of one of our progressive black bookstores in

2703
02:48:15,560 --> 02:48:19,080
Speaker 7: the Saint Louis region, Amber Books, we are going to

2704
02:48:19,240 --> 02:48:24,520
Speaker 7: donate in February about one hundred and fifty five copies

2705
02:48:24,560 --> 02:48:28,560
Speaker 7: of the books Think and Grow Rich, a Black Choice

2706
02:48:28,600 --> 02:48:33,680
Speaker 7: by Dennis Kimbrew and Napoleon Hill. And then one of

2707
02:48:33,720 --> 02:48:37,160
Speaker 7: our greatest challenges, which we had done it before and

2708
02:48:37,200 --> 02:48:39,800
Speaker 7: we're in the process of doing it now, we have

2709
02:48:39,840 --> 02:48:46,760
Speaker 7: a campaign to send books to the country of Gambia,

2710
02:48:47,040 --> 02:48:51,000
Speaker 7: West Africa, and that's part of our international work. I'm

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02:48:51,000 --> 02:48:55,199
Speaker 7: proud to say as an organization on the international level,

2712
02:48:55,400 --> 02:48:59,120
Speaker 7: our first year of existence in nineteen eighty nine, we

2713
02:48:59,280 --> 02:49:03,520
Speaker 7: shipped about seventy boxes of new clothing to the media

2714
02:49:03,680 --> 02:49:08,039
Speaker 7: to celebrate its independence. And then in two thousand and three,

2715
02:49:08,160 --> 02:49:11,520
Speaker 7: after visiting Zambabwe and get an opportunity to meet the

2716
02:49:11,600 --> 02:49:15,960
Speaker 7: president other than BBWE, Robert mcgabi, we organized a campaign

2717
02:49:16,040 --> 02:49:18,920
Speaker 7: where we shipped four hundred and fifty boxes of clothing

2718
02:49:19,600 --> 02:49:23,720
Speaker 7: and medical suppliers to Zambabwe, which I went to dedicate.

2719
02:49:24,400 --> 02:49:30,360
Speaker 7: The following year, Hurricane Ivan instruck the island of Haiti

2720
02:49:30,400 --> 02:49:32,560
Speaker 7: and devastated a lot of parts of that and we

2721
02:49:32,640 --> 02:49:34,959
Speaker 7: worked with the Haitian community and we were able to

2722
02:49:35,000 --> 02:49:39,160
Speaker 7: ship about five hundred and forty boxes of food, water, clothing,

2723
02:49:39,760 --> 02:49:45,279
Speaker 7: medical suppliers, educational materials to Haiti. The Saint Louis Ethiopian

2724
02:49:45,280 --> 02:49:48,840
Speaker 7: community heard about our work and approached us and wanted

2725
02:49:48,920 --> 02:49:52,640
Speaker 7: us to help fight literacy by sending books to a

2726
02:49:52,680 --> 02:49:57,080
Speaker 7: non governmental agency in Ethiopia, and probably to say that

2727
02:49:57,120 --> 02:50:01,040
Speaker 7: we were able to send nine thousand books there and

2728
02:50:01,040 --> 02:50:03,600
Speaker 7: I went there to dedicate it. But even on the

2729
02:50:03,640 --> 02:50:08,240
Speaker 7: books for Ethiopian Call, we had so many we actually

2730
02:50:08,280 --> 02:50:11,959
Speaker 7: didn't count them. We put in our newspaper that we

2731
02:50:12,040 --> 02:50:16,000
Speaker 7: had five thousand on the front page, you know, as

2732
02:50:16,040 --> 02:50:19,039
Speaker 7: part of our project. But when I got to Ethiopia

2733
02:50:19,080 --> 02:50:21,400
Speaker 7: and met with the people, they had actually counted the

2734
02:50:21,440 --> 02:50:24,680
Speaker 7: books and it was nine thousands. Then one of our

2735
02:50:24,720 --> 02:50:30,160
Speaker 7: members went to was in Ghana and twenty fifteen and

2736
02:50:30,320 --> 02:50:33,119
Speaker 7: there was a library that was being built and they

2737
02:50:33,160 --> 02:50:37,400
Speaker 7: needed to do books and probably say that we were

2738
02:50:37,440 --> 02:50:40,520
Speaker 7: able to generate ten thousand books in twenty fifteen to

2739
02:50:40,600 --> 02:50:45,840
Speaker 7: ship to Ghanah. Now, as I mentioned, we are embarking

2740
02:50:46,040 --> 02:50:53,119
Speaker 7: upon the campaign to ship books to the West African

2741
02:50:53,120 --> 02:50:57,600
Speaker 7: country of Gambia, by which the movie and the book

2742
02:50:57,600 --> 02:51:01,960
Speaker 7: written by Alex Haley roots regonated out of the what

2743
02:51:02,240 --> 02:51:04,040
Speaker 7: was taking place in Gambia.

2744
02:51:04,120 --> 02:51:07,040
Speaker 8: So right, hold, that's all right, Then let me jump

2745
02:51:07,080 --> 02:51:10,800
Speaker 8: in for a second here, brother Zaki, because going so fast,

2746
02:51:10,800 --> 02:51:15,080
Speaker 8: you mentioned you forgot to mention your interaction with Kadafi,

2747
02:51:15,160 --> 02:51:17,840
Speaker 8: because you're actively just taking you all over the world,

2748
02:51:18,240 --> 02:51:21,480
Speaker 8: and I think a families know how you got involved.

2749
02:51:21,480 --> 02:51:22,879
Speaker 8: If you can share that with us and what was

2750
02:51:22,879 --> 02:51:25,359
Speaker 8: the outcome, Okay.

2751
02:51:25,040 --> 02:51:30,080
Speaker 7: Then thank you for that call. In nineteen eighty three,

2752
02:51:30,520 --> 02:51:32,800
Speaker 7: First of all, I had been following Kadafi and I

2753
02:51:32,840 --> 02:51:36,040
Speaker 7: have a close relationship with the Nation of Islam and

2754
02:51:36,240 --> 02:51:41,080
Speaker 7: brother Akbab Muhammad, who was the international representative for Minister

2755
02:51:41,160 --> 02:51:44,080
Speaker 7: Lowis fire time. At that time we had a real

2756
02:51:44,200 --> 02:51:47,920
Speaker 7: close relationship. And as I mentioned that, I had been

2757
02:51:48,000 --> 02:51:51,160
Speaker 7: taken out of the classroom right and I was fighting

2758
02:51:51,280 --> 02:51:54,920
Speaker 7: to get back into the classroom, and in that I

2759
02:51:55,040 --> 02:51:58,959
Speaker 7: was exposed in a lot of more degradation that was

2760
02:51:59,000 --> 02:52:00,959
Speaker 7: taking place in the school. This Sir, I was going

2761
02:52:01,040 --> 02:52:05,120
Speaker 7: to approach Minister Lewis far time to see if he

2762
02:52:05,200 --> 02:52:08,240
Speaker 7: had come and speak on my issue. So I flew

2763
02:52:08,320 --> 02:52:11,119
Speaker 7: to Chicago. I never get there and it was kind

2764
02:52:11,200 --> 02:52:14,959
Speaker 7: of a snowy night. I met with Agbar, shared with him,

2765
02:52:15,080 --> 02:52:17,960
Speaker 7: you know what was happening in school system, and then

2766
02:52:18,040 --> 02:52:20,640
Speaker 7: he asked me the question are you man enough or

2767
02:52:20,760 --> 02:52:24,240
Speaker 7: black enough one of the either or to go to Libya?

2768
02:52:25,040 --> 02:52:28,840
Speaker 7: And my response was I have an opportunity to tell

2769
02:52:28,879 --> 02:52:32,000
Speaker 7: the wife that you leaveing tonight, you know, because I

2770
02:52:32,120 --> 02:52:34,760
Speaker 7: definitely wanted to get there, and I was blessed to

2771
02:52:34,800 --> 02:52:39,119
Speaker 7: travel there with a delegation lad by Minister Abab Muhammad,

2772
02:52:39,520 --> 02:52:43,200
Speaker 7: and on that trip was able to get the opportunity

2773
02:52:43,360 --> 02:52:49,879
Speaker 7: to meet Mamar Kadpi and also with brother Agbar. I

2774
02:52:49,959 --> 02:52:56,080
Speaker 7: was also able to meet the President of Zambabwe, Robert Mugabi,

2775
02:52:56,760 --> 02:53:00,520
Speaker 7: along with the president of the Sudan o'marbish there as

2776
02:53:00,560 --> 02:53:05,040
Speaker 7: well as the president of the current President of Nicaragua

2777
02:53:05,120 --> 02:53:10,400
Speaker 7: or Daniel Ortaga, and so I considered those blessings. I

2778
02:53:10,440 --> 02:53:15,600
Speaker 7: saw Kadopi as a person who really cared for his

2779
02:53:15,879 --> 02:53:20,520
Speaker 7: people and the African continent in this whole, and that's

2780
02:53:20,520 --> 02:53:23,520
Speaker 7: why they did what they did in terms of the

2781
02:53:23,640 --> 02:53:28,279
Speaker 7: murder of Marl Mareka doctor. And in fact I was

2782
02:53:28,440 --> 02:53:31,200
Speaker 7: able to travel back and forth to Libya under the

2783
02:53:31,240 --> 02:53:37,279
Speaker 7: auspices also of a farmation that Sophie Carmichael Kwame Caray

2784
02:53:37,520 --> 02:53:43,920
Speaker 7: had formed which was African worldwide anti Zionist movement. And

2785
02:53:43,959 --> 02:53:47,560
Speaker 7: it was ironically, as I had mentioned early on, it

2786
02:53:47,600 --> 02:53:51,600
Speaker 7: was Kwame Terrae Stokely Carmichael who really opened up my

2787
02:53:51,720 --> 02:53:55,879
Speaker 7: consciousness early when I was a high school senior that

2788
02:53:55,920 --> 02:54:00,000
Speaker 7: we became very close and in fact was through here

2789
02:54:00,360 --> 02:54:02,960
Speaker 7: him I was able to get a trip to England

2790
02:54:03,000 --> 02:54:07,320
Speaker 7: to speak on behalf of our movement. I've been blessed

2791
02:54:07,360 --> 02:54:11,920
Speaker 7: to travel to eleven countries in Africa as well as

2792
02:54:12,040 --> 02:54:15,680
Speaker 7: been blessed to do a total of thirty six countries.

2793
02:54:15,760 --> 02:54:18,480
Speaker 7: I an't carriage. Everybody got to get out of this country.

2794
02:54:18,800 --> 02:54:22,920
Speaker 7: Should every black person before you transition needs to step

2795
02:54:23,000 --> 02:54:26,119
Speaker 7: on the continent of Africa. And last, but not least,

2796
02:54:26,360 --> 02:54:29,840
Speaker 7: since you mentioned the travelers, I was also on my

2797
02:54:30,120 --> 02:54:34,840
Speaker 7: very first trip to Africa, which was Senegal. I was

2798
02:54:34,879 --> 02:54:37,760
Speaker 7: able to be in the presence of one of the

2799
02:54:37,800 --> 02:54:41,960
Speaker 7: most powerful spiritual leaders in West Africa and that was

2800
02:54:42,000 --> 02:54:45,439
Speaker 7: shake Up do Lahat in Baki, who is the grandson

2801
02:54:45,600 --> 02:54:50,440
Speaker 7: of a mystic named Bomba. That they had stories about

2802
02:54:50,560 --> 02:54:53,680
Speaker 7: this mystic similar to you have stories in the Bible

2803
02:54:53,879 --> 02:55:00,440
Speaker 7: about like Daniel and other Biblical characters. And you know

2804
02:55:00,720 --> 02:55:06,760
Speaker 7: you in travel and in growth, knowledge is always coming

2805
02:55:06,800 --> 02:55:10,200
Speaker 7: in different forms. And I would encourage people to look

2806
02:55:10,240 --> 02:55:13,000
Speaker 7: up the story of Bamba and they spelled b A

2807
02:55:13,280 --> 02:55:16,920
Speaker 7: m b A where they had stories of the French

2808
02:55:16,920 --> 02:55:21,520
Speaker 7: who had colonized Senagalue was trying to get rid of

2809
02:55:21,600 --> 02:55:24,520
Speaker 7: him because I guess she was outspoken, and one of

2810
02:55:24,560 --> 02:55:27,080
Speaker 7: the stories was that he was placed in the den

2811
02:55:27,400 --> 02:55:30,800
Speaker 7: of linings and he calmed them down. Another story is

2812
02:55:30,800 --> 02:55:32,520
Speaker 7: that the French had him in front of the fire

2813
02:55:32,600 --> 02:55:35,640
Speaker 7: squad and the bullets just rolled out his test like

2814
02:55:35,760 --> 02:55:38,440
Speaker 7: stories out of the bike. I'm just sharing the stories

2815
02:55:38,440 --> 02:55:42,120
Speaker 7: that people go to Senegal. They were hear what I'm sharing,

2816
02:55:42,600 --> 02:55:45,640
Speaker 7: and then they tried to ship him in exile, send

2817
02:55:45,640 --> 02:55:48,800
Speaker 7: a white woman down to try to entice them. Her

2818
02:55:48,840 --> 02:55:51,880
Speaker 7: hair catch on fire. He transformed himself from the jail

2819
02:55:51,959 --> 02:55:57,000
Speaker 7: cell into the sea and as a Muslim prostrates itself

2820
02:55:57,040 --> 02:55:59,959
Speaker 7: on the seat, backed up with a patch of set

2821
02:56:00,040 --> 02:56:03,080
Speaker 7: and the east rounded by school of sharks. That's the

2822
02:56:03,200 --> 02:56:06,359
Speaker 7: stories about him, and I was able.

2823
02:56:06,440 --> 02:56:09,160
Speaker 8: A whole story there right there. Brother Zaki, you got

2824
02:56:09,160 --> 02:56:10,640
Speaker 8: to step aside for a few moments. We'll come back.

2825
02:56:10,640 --> 02:56:13,640
Speaker 8: I'll let you finish your story. But also we'll here

2826
02:56:13,800 --> 02:56:17,000
Speaker 8: some conversations you met with all these world leaders of

2827
02:56:17,120 --> 02:56:19,760
Speaker 8: stalin with Kadafi. I want to get your thoughts about

2828
02:56:20,000 --> 02:56:22,640
Speaker 8: Momar Kadaffi. What did you personally get away from that

2829
02:56:22,680 --> 02:56:25,800
Speaker 8: meeting with him? And do you think he was taken

2830
02:56:25,840 --> 02:56:28,800
Speaker 8: out because he was calling for calling for an all

2831
02:56:28,920 --> 02:56:31,480
Speaker 8: African state, the United States of Africa. So I'll let

2832
02:56:31,520 --> 02:56:33,200
Speaker 8: you respond to that when we get back. Family, you

2833
02:56:33,240 --> 02:56:36,000
Speaker 8: two come get in on this conversation with brother Zaki Breuti.

2834
02:56:36,200 --> 02:56:39,200
Speaker 8: He's the President General of the Universal of African People's Organization.

2835
02:56:39,440 --> 02:56:41,840
Speaker 8: You can reach us at eight hundred four or five zero,

2836
02:56:42,200 --> 02:56:45,160
Speaker 8: seventy eight, seventy six, and we'll take your phone calls.

2837
02:56:44,959 --> 02:57:04,760
Speaker 1: Next fourteen fifty wol.

2838
02:57:10,640 --> 02:57:13,039
Speaker 2: Now back to the Carl Nelson Show.

2839
02:57:34,440 --> 02:57:36,600
Speaker 8: And Grand Rising Family, thanks for staying with us on

2840
02:57:36,640 --> 02:57:38,720
Speaker 8: this Tuesday morning, or twenty minutes after the time that

2841
02:57:38,760 --> 02:57:41,160
Speaker 8: they are with. A guest of brother Zaki Bruti is

2842
02:57:41,200 --> 02:57:44,000
Speaker 8: the President General of the Universal of African People's Organization

2843
02:57:44,200 --> 02:57:47,240
Speaker 8: based in Saint Louis. She mentioned he met with several

2844
02:57:47,400 --> 02:57:51,039
Speaker 8: world leaders that we looked to, and one of them

2845
02:57:51,120 --> 02:57:54,280
Speaker 8: was Momar Kadaffi. So my question to you before we

2846
02:57:54,360 --> 02:57:56,240
Speaker 8: left for the break, I'll let you finish your thought first,

2847
02:57:56,280 --> 02:57:58,440
Speaker 8: But my question to you, brother Zaki, what kind of

2848
02:57:58,480 --> 02:58:01,440
Speaker 8: person did you come away down? It's hard to, you know,

2849
02:58:01,840 --> 02:58:04,640
Speaker 8: assess a person's personality and just on one or two

2850
02:58:04,760 --> 02:58:06,800
Speaker 8: or three meetings on that because you're up with them

2851
02:58:06,920 --> 02:58:09,320
Speaker 8: twenty four to seven, and you know, but what did

2852
02:58:09,360 --> 02:58:12,160
Speaker 8: you get away from momark aaf Did you think he

2853
02:58:12,280 --> 02:58:15,520
Speaker 8: was genuinely cared about uniting black people of the United

2854
02:58:15,520 --> 02:58:16,320
Speaker 8: States of Africa?

2855
02:58:17,560 --> 02:58:22,760
Speaker 7: Absolutely? Absolutely. I believe he had the love for his

2856
02:58:22,959 --> 02:58:26,720
Speaker 7: people and he had the love for the concept of

2857
02:58:26,800 --> 02:58:31,160
Speaker 7: Really Marcus Garvey, you know, Africa for the Africans, and

2858
02:58:32,240 --> 02:58:35,200
Speaker 7: he showed it in action in terms of you know,

2859
02:58:36,160 --> 02:58:42,080
Speaker 7: his government spent millions of dollars to help launch Africa's

2860
02:58:42,240 --> 02:58:46,440
Speaker 7: first satellite within his own country. You know, he had

2861
02:58:46,520 --> 02:58:53,879
Speaker 7: free housing, free education for his people, and you know,

2862
02:58:54,000 --> 02:58:57,920
Speaker 7: and he supported the Palestinians rights and he also supported us.

2863
02:58:58,280 --> 02:59:02,480
Speaker 7: Remember he also provided I had a nine sum of

2864
02:59:02,600 --> 02:59:05,680
Speaker 7: dollars to the Nation of Islam under the leadership of

2865
02:59:05,959 --> 02:59:09,920
Speaker 7: Honorable Elijah Muhammad as well as you know, he offered

2866
02:59:09,920 --> 02:59:14,200
Speaker 7: the billions of dollars to our community when Clinton was president,

2867
02:59:14,240 --> 02:59:19,920
Speaker 7: who blocked that. So yeah, I have no problem saying

2868
02:59:20,040 --> 02:59:23,160
Speaker 7: publicly he was a good brother. He had a love

2869
02:59:23,240 --> 02:59:26,680
Speaker 7: for our people. But just as this evil system has

2870
02:59:27,160 --> 02:59:30,080
Speaker 7: done away with people such as Patrees La Mumba and

2871
02:59:30,959 --> 02:59:34,840
Speaker 7: we and others who stand out and incarceration of Nelson

2872
02:59:34,879 --> 02:59:39,080
Speaker 7: Mandelas for years under the apartheid regime, they just don't

2873
02:59:39,120 --> 02:59:42,440
Speaker 7: want us to unify as a race of people. And

2874
02:59:42,560 --> 02:59:45,480
Speaker 7: he was pushing for that unification of Africa. So he

2875
02:59:45,600 --> 02:59:46,280
Speaker 7: was a good brother.

2876
02:59:46,800 --> 02:59:49,240
Speaker 8: Did he discuss that with you that you know, we

2877
02:59:49,280 --> 02:59:51,080
Speaker 8: want to see the United States of America, not just

2878
02:59:51,120 --> 02:59:53,360
Speaker 8: in the United States of Africa with Africans throughout the

2879
02:59:53,720 --> 02:59:55,440
Speaker 8: da askport. Did he talk about that?

2880
02:59:55,879 --> 02:59:56,280
Speaker 5: Did you have.

2881
02:59:56,280 --> 03:00:01,880
Speaker 7: Con you know, in our personal gathering it was about

2882
03:00:01,920 --> 03:00:04,680
Speaker 7: ten of us who had went to you know, to Libya.

2883
03:00:04,720 --> 03:00:08,199
Speaker 7: The first time I went, it was dealing with another issue.

2884
03:00:08,200 --> 03:00:12,240
Speaker 7: I can't remember exactly what it was, but in late

2885
03:00:12,360 --> 03:00:16,480
Speaker 7: I've saw his presentation on a couple other instances that

2886
03:00:16,680 --> 03:00:19,360
Speaker 7: went back. Didn't get a chance to be close to him,

2887
03:00:19,400 --> 03:00:22,240
Speaker 7: but you know in the audience, and he was addressing

2888
03:00:22,760 --> 03:00:26,280
Speaker 7: the concept of the unification of Africa.

2889
03:00:26,400 --> 03:00:30,880
Speaker 8: Yes, also you met with Robert mcgoby. And as much

2890
03:00:30,920 --> 03:00:34,400
Speaker 8: as being said about Robert mcgoughby what he did with

2891
03:00:34,520 --> 03:00:37,039
Speaker 8: running his country because he you know, he took no

2892
03:00:37,120 --> 03:00:40,560
Speaker 8: prisoners and they were trying for years to get him out,

2893
03:00:40,600 --> 03:00:41,600
Speaker 8: what was that meeting like.

2894
03:00:42,760 --> 03:00:45,480
Speaker 7: Well, we went in response to it at the time

2895
03:00:45,920 --> 03:00:49,360
Speaker 7: that as an extension of what was called the Lancaster

2896
03:00:49,560 --> 03:00:54,480
Speaker 7: of Cards. I believe that was agreed up one in

2897
03:00:54,800 --> 03:00:59,560
Speaker 7: nineteen eightyth my memory servesman right nineteen seventy nine and

2898
03:01:00,360 --> 03:01:04,600
Speaker 7: under Jimmy Carter, I believe then Reagan came in. Yeah,

2899
03:01:04,720 --> 03:01:08,800
Speaker 7: whereby as a period of time that the land was

2900
03:01:08,840 --> 03:01:14,080
Speaker 7: to be returned to you know, the zimbabwe indigenous people

2901
03:01:14,680 --> 03:01:21,600
Speaker 7: as everybody know, England and other folks had really colonized

2902
03:01:21,879 --> 03:01:25,720
Speaker 7: Zimbabwe and then in the period where I met him,

2903
03:01:26,080 --> 03:01:28,840
Speaker 7: they were reclaiming the land. He was coming under a

2904
03:01:28,920 --> 03:01:32,440
Speaker 7: serious attack and we went there to do in fact

2905
03:01:32,480 --> 03:01:36,879
Speaker 7: finding a tour and visited some of the land that

2906
03:01:36,959 --> 03:01:41,480
Speaker 7: had been returned to the people and just had a

2907
03:01:41,520 --> 03:01:46,480
Speaker 7: brief meeting with him again through brother Akbah Muhammad and

2908
03:01:47,760 --> 03:01:53,040
Speaker 7: Robert the President. Robert mcgabi was laying out his explanation

2909
03:01:53,240 --> 03:01:57,720
Speaker 7: of the program that they were uh tearing out as

2910
03:01:57,720 --> 03:02:01,920
Speaker 7: far as getting the land back from uh the robbers, uh,

2911
03:02:02,200 --> 03:02:04,199
Speaker 7: you know the white folks that came in and taking

2912
03:02:04,280 --> 03:02:06,320
Speaker 7: over much of the great land.

2913
03:02:06,160 --> 03:02:09,560
Speaker 8: Of some Yeah, twenty five the tough I got. Shout

2914
03:02:09,560 --> 03:02:12,920
Speaker 8: out brother Akbar, brother one of our frequ congressions of there.

2915
03:02:12,920 --> 03:02:14,800
Speaker 8: I know he's got some health challenges, so shout out

2916
03:02:14,800 --> 03:02:15,560
Speaker 8: to Akbar.

2917
03:02:16,120 --> 03:02:16,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2918
03:02:16,520 --> 03:02:21,359
Speaker 8: But brothers Zaki, Uh, how did they receive you, because

2919
03:02:21,720 --> 03:02:25,320
Speaker 8: did they see you as an embodiment of US foreign

2920
03:02:25,360 --> 03:02:27,400
Speaker 8: policy or they see you as different as as a

2921
03:02:27,440 --> 03:02:32,000
Speaker 8: black American who's who doesn't reside where the United States

2922
03:02:32,040 --> 03:02:34,840
Speaker 8: government is when it comes to Kadaki, when it comes

2923
03:02:34,879 --> 03:02:39,880
Speaker 8: to Magabi. When it comes to also uh Omar Basher

2924
03:02:40,400 --> 03:02:42,840
Speaker 8: or Daniel Ortega, did they see you differently?

2925
03:02:43,040 --> 03:02:45,080
Speaker 5: They see you just a just another American.

2926
03:02:46,280 --> 03:02:50,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, they also as different, you know, because the people

2927
03:02:50,720 --> 03:02:55,680
Speaker 7: who were part of the delegations have had had histories

2928
03:02:55,720 --> 03:02:59,640
Speaker 7: of speaking truth to power and uh, you know, trying

2929
03:02:59,680 --> 03:03:02,360
Speaker 7: to make a difference here in this country. Uh. And

2930
03:03:02,480 --> 03:03:07,000
Speaker 7: going back to Cadofredo, I'd be remiss sadly to say, uh,

2931
03:03:07,160 --> 03:03:10,400
Speaker 7: a person of color lay at the charge after the

2932
03:03:10,440 --> 03:03:15,080
Speaker 7: behafs of our color. I have to say, which Hillary Clinton,

2933
03:03:15,160 --> 03:03:21,760
Speaker 7: Omar Obama? Barack Obama, you know, uh was the head

2934
03:03:21,800 --> 03:03:26,200
Speaker 7: of this country when he was murdered and assassinated. And

2935
03:03:26,240 --> 03:03:29,800
Speaker 7: I'll never forget the statement that Hillary Clinton had made

2936
03:03:29,879 --> 03:03:32,240
Speaker 7: that she was saying, we came, we saw he died

2937
03:03:32,959 --> 03:03:36,600
Speaker 7: and was laughing on it. So uh uh you know,

2938
03:03:37,200 --> 03:03:41,959
Speaker 7: just for the public consumption and for me, that's an evil, evil,

2939
03:03:42,080 --> 03:03:45,320
Speaker 7: evil spirit and made her soul rests where it's supposed

2940
03:03:45,320 --> 03:03:45,920
Speaker 7: to be in hell.

2941
03:03:46,000 --> 03:03:50,040
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, car, but you know, having that is that

2942
03:03:50,040 --> 03:03:54,160
Speaker 8: though brother ZACKI didn't know Obama sort of a I

2943
03:03:54,200 --> 03:03:56,480
Speaker 8: guess not resent, but but he said that's one of

2944
03:03:56,520 --> 03:03:59,440
Speaker 8: the biggest mistakes he thought he made fining office, didn't

2945
03:03:59,440 --> 03:04:01,320
Speaker 8: he say something in fact, I.

2946
03:04:01,400 --> 03:04:04,040
Speaker 7: Think I've heard that's supposed to be there. And that

2947
03:04:04,320 --> 03:04:08,960
Speaker 7: was a great mistake. That was one of the greatest

2948
03:04:09,080 --> 03:04:14,959
Speaker 7: tragedies against the continent of Africa because again he was

2949
03:04:15,040 --> 03:04:19,440
Speaker 7: using his economic resources for that he had through the

2950
03:04:19,560 --> 03:04:24,640
Speaker 7: alle wealth that Libya had and providing it for the

2951
03:04:24,760 --> 03:04:28,959
Speaker 7: African people. And right now Libya is in a total

2952
03:04:29,000 --> 03:04:34,480
Speaker 7: state of chaos, and you know, and our continent is

2953
03:04:34,600 --> 03:04:37,520
Speaker 7: not receiving the kind of fines that Kadaku was providing

2954
03:04:37,680 --> 03:04:39,160
Speaker 7: for the uplivment of the people.

2955
03:04:40,760 --> 03:04:43,240
Speaker 8: Twenty seven at the top of every brother Zaki Brudi.

2956
03:04:43,280 --> 03:04:47,320
Speaker 8: Brother Zaki also met with Omaba Shir from the Sedana

2957
03:04:47,320 --> 03:04:50,560
Speaker 8: and you see what the Sedan is like today from

2958
03:04:50,600 --> 03:04:53,640
Speaker 8: these meetings. Now you can look back on these meetings

2959
03:04:53,680 --> 03:04:55,720
Speaker 8: and see what these countries are going through, the turmoil

2960
03:04:55,720 --> 03:04:59,760
Speaker 8: they're going through right now because of American imperialist or

2961
03:05:00,080 --> 03:05:02,760
Speaker 8: Western imperialism as well. Because they're all together when it comes,

2962
03:05:02,760 --> 03:05:05,360
Speaker 8: it's nearly full of teaches us. They stay on code

2963
03:05:05,800 --> 03:05:08,040
Speaker 8: at that time when you met them, could you anticipate

2964
03:05:08,080 --> 03:05:10,720
Speaker 8: that this, you know, look at Sedan, it's today. Man,

2965
03:05:10,760 --> 03:05:13,560
Speaker 8: it's it's horrible. So many people are dying every day

2966
03:05:13,560 --> 03:05:17,560
Speaker 8: and it doesn't get reported. It's just like the whole

2967
03:05:17,560 --> 03:05:19,640
Speaker 8: world has written off of the brothers and sisters in

2968
03:05:19,680 --> 03:05:22,840
Speaker 8: the Saddan. Could you gauge that this would this would

2969
03:05:22,879 --> 03:05:26,200
Speaker 8: be the would happen at that actual time that you

2970
03:05:26,280 --> 03:05:27,680
Speaker 8: were meeting, Do you think or do you think it

2971
03:05:27,720 --> 03:05:28,560
Speaker 8: would go another way?

2972
03:05:29,560 --> 03:05:31,720
Speaker 7: Well, you know, I was my prayers. Of course it

2973
03:05:31,760 --> 03:05:35,120
Speaker 7: would have been another way then what it's currently taking place.

2974
03:05:35,160 --> 03:05:38,280
Speaker 7: But in the fact when we went there, uh there

2975
03:05:38,360 --> 03:05:43,240
Speaker 7: was conflict taking place and we again the delegation being

2976
03:05:43,440 --> 03:05:48,600
Speaker 7: led by Agbar was to uh Uh. This was a

2977
03:05:48,600 --> 03:05:54,879
Speaker 7: fact finding trip and we uh uh got the opportunity

2978
03:05:54,920 --> 03:05:58,000
Speaker 7: to meet or Marbisha I remember, like in a big

2979
03:05:58,080 --> 03:06:02,520
Speaker 7: tent and he was sharing the perspective of his government

2980
03:06:02,640 --> 03:06:06,400
Speaker 7: in terms of dealing with the conflict that was being

2981
03:06:06,440 --> 03:06:10,160
Speaker 7: engaged in at that particular time. But as relates to

2982
03:06:10,240 --> 03:06:15,320
Speaker 7: moving forward, Yeah, it's a heart breaking to see the

2983
03:06:15,440 --> 03:06:21,080
Speaker 7: kind of civil undress or war that's taking place right

2984
03:06:21,120 --> 03:06:24,800
Speaker 7: now in the Sudan as well as in a couple

2985
03:06:24,800 --> 03:06:26,920
Speaker 7: other parts of after. I know a lot of parts

2986
03:06:26,920 --> 03:06:30,720
Speaker 7: of Africa's I don't want people get confused. Are in

2987
03:06:30,760 --> 03:06:35,240
Speaker 7: a state of peace, and again I would encourage people

2988
03:06:35,280 --> 03:06:37,720
Speaker 7: to make sure that they go because it's out of

2989
03:06:37,760 --> 03:06:40,520
Speaker 7: afric there's over fifty four countries, but we do have

2990
03:06:40,640 --> 03:06:43,600
Speaker 7: conflict and a few of them just like white folks

2991
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Speaker 7: have conflicts World War one, world War two and what

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Speaker 7: have you. But that's the reality. And you know, my prayers,

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03:06:51,879 --> 03:06:54,080
Speaker 7: of course is that is able to be put to

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Speaker 7: an end and that we as people realize that we

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03:06:57,840 --> 03:07:01,760
Speaker 7: are one and that uh, you know, we need to

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Speaker 7: be working in harmony with one another rather than against

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Speaker 7: each other.

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Speaker 8: Thirty minutes other top I got to ask you this though,

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Speaker 8: brother Szhachi, are you where you have a concern that

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Speaker 8: the fact that you've a meeting with the people who

3001
03:07:13,160 --> 03:07:16,840
Speaker 8: are persona grata by this government and there you are

3002
03:07:16,920 --> 03:07:19,280
Speaker 8: meeting with them. Now you know that because you know

3003
03:07:19,280 --> 03:07:21,160
Speaker 8: what you know the story of coin tell bro, you

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03:07:21,200 --> 03:07:21,920
Speaker 8: know all of that.

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Speaker 25: You know?

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03:07:23,000 --> 03:07:25,760
Speaker 8: Is does that concern you knowing that you probably on

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Speaker 8: somebody's list?

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Speaker 7: Well, you know number one is uh, you know you

3009
03:07:32,360 --> 03:07:36,480
Speaker 7: got uh if you'm being this ball game of advocacy,

3010
03:07:36,560 --> 03:07:40,600
Speaker 7: you got to understand, uh it carries uh different kinds

3011
03:07:40,640 --> 03:07:45,400
Speaker 7: of consequence, and uh, my prayers always said, you know,

3012
03:07:45,560 --> 03:07:47,720
Speaker 7: I walked to the Valoyce shell death. I will fear

3013
03:07:47,800 --> 03:07:50,720
Speaker 7: no evil and being out here. Of course, I've had

3014
03:07:50,800 --> 03:07:54,280
Speaker 7: different death threats over the years. I remember one depth

3015
03:07:54,320 --> 03:07:57,800
Speaker 7: of a person called in white boar boom your dead

3016
03:07:57,879 --> 03:08:03,360
Speaker 7: nigger and uh. And one time I was on Bill

3017
03:08:03,400 --> 03:08:07,000
Speaker 7: O'Reilly show on Fox News way back and you are

3018
03:08:07,080 --> 03:08:11,879
Speaker 7: seeing some of the email's hatred that receives in terms

3019
03:08:11,879 --> 03:08:15,400
Speaker 7: of burning him alive. So you know, I just walked

3020
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Speaker 7: in the spirit of all the ancestors who was able

3021
03:08:18,560 --> 03:08:21,959
Speaker 7: to stand up and speak truth to power. And that's

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Speaker 7: why we celebrate our organization yearly, have annual programs that

3023
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Speaker 7: celebrate the legacy of doctor King, which we founded our

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Speaker 7: organization as mentioned earlier. On April fourth, nineteen eighty nine,

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Speaker 7: we celebrate Angelis the birthday of Malcolm x Alhaus Malika

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Speaker 7: el Shabaz on May nineteen, and we celebrate the great

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Speaker 7: giant of our community, the honorable Marcus messag Garby on

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Speaker 7: August the seventeenth of each here so and each of

3029
03:08:51,320 --> 03:08:57,320
Speaker 7: those you know, Malcolm and Martin faced the ultimate situation

3030
03:08:57,440 --> 03:09:01,160
Speaker 7: of death at the hands of this society and then

3031
03:09:01,760 --> 03:09:09,000
Speaker 7: Marcus face political prosecution and judicial prosecution being incarcerated. So

3032
03:09:09,080 --> 03:09:13,240
Speaker 7: that just goes with the territory. And you can't be fearful.

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03:09:13,280 --> 03:09:16,160
Speaker 7: You just got to do what's right. And I definitely

3034
03:09:16,160 --> 03:09:19,240
Speaker 7: believe that there's a creator. And each morning that I

3035
03:09:19,320 --> 03:09:21,640
Speaker 7: waked up, I pray that I do something right that

3036
03:09:21,760 --> 03:09:25,560
Speaker 7: pleases the Creator and ask for forgiveness for that I

3037
03:09:25,680 --> 03:09:29,600
Speaker 7: don't do right. But uh yeah, that's how I approach life.

3038
03:09:29,800 --> 03:09:36,360
Speaker 7: And and so you know, if all of us stood

3039
03:09:36,440 --> 03:09:39,800
Speaker 7: up and spoke truth to power and arganized, hell, we

3040
03:09:39,879 --> 03:09:42,640
Speaker 7: can be a long way from where we're at. But

3041
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Speaker 7: uh again, that's why it's important to know history, and

3042
03:09:45,320 --> 03:09:48,120
Speaker 7: it's import to know the history of that turner. You know,

3043
03:09:48,760 --> 03:09:52,560
Speaker 7: the history of all our freedom fighters over the years,

3044
03:09:52,600 --> 03:09:57,000
Speaker 7: the civil rights folks, Mega evers. Uh you know, if

3045
03:09:57,040 --> 03:10:00,320
Speaker 7: you don't stand up and be a ma and you

3046
03:10:00,360 --> 03:10:04,280
Speaker 7: can just be I mean, you know, I won't use

3047
03:10:04,320 --> 03:10:08,320
Speaker 7: the word, but anyway, Yes, it's important to stand. It's

3048
03:10:08,320 --> 03:10:11,800
Speaker 7: important to have carriage. And you know, cause since she

3049
03:10:11,920 --> 03:10:15,560
Speaker 7: acted me that each morning for me, on a personal note,

3050
03:10:16,440 --> 03:10:20,280
Speaker 7: beyond praying for the safety of my family and other

3051
03:10:20,360 --> 03:10:25,320
Speaker 7: members of the organization, I pray for wisdom, knowledge, understanding,

3052
03:10:26,080 --> 03:10:32,320
Speaker 7: tenacity of spirit, carriage, patience, and humbleness. Those are my

3053
03:10:32,480 --> 03:10:36,960
Speaker 7: major prayers to carry me throughout the day. And I

3054
03:10:37,080 --> 03:10:39,959
Speaker 7: just give praise to God for allowing me to be

3055
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Speaker 7: able to do what I've been able to do over

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Speaker 7: the seven eight years of my life.

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Speaker 8: And I say a shade of that at twenty six

3058
03:10:48,240 --> 03:10:51,760
Speaker 8: away from the top day, Brother Zachi, you said one

3059
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Speaker 8: of the persons that really got you started was doctor

3060
03:10:54,520 --> 03:10:58,560
Speaker 8: Markt the King. You start your organization on his anxious assassination.

3061
03:11:00,160 --> 03:11:03,720
Speaker 8: Now they're they're comparing this this fellow Charlie Kirk to

3062
03:11:04,160 --> 03:11:08,199
Speaker 8: doctor King for many people, how many people in our circle.

3063
03:11:08,480 --> 03:11:10,640
Speaker 8: This it's a straight up insult. But I want to

3064
03:11:10,640 --> 03:11:12,920
Speaker 8: get from you because because he he doctor King, had

3065
03:11:12,920 --> 03:11:16,160
Speaker 8: a profound effect on you and your organization. Your thoughts

3066
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Speaker 8: about this fellaw Uh I guess the internet star Charlie

3067
03:11:20,280 --> 03:11:23,680
Speaker 8: Kirk as as the Martin Luther King of of of

3068
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Speaker 8: fair time.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know what, uh, you know, I think that's

3070
03:11:28,760 --> 03:11:35,960
Speaker 7: an obnoxious thought in terms of com turning the two uh.

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Speaker 7: And you know again uh, and that's important to know

3072
03:11:38,800 --> 03:11:43,160
Speaker 7: two history because you will have those who uh teach

3073
03:11:43,280 --> 03:11:47,880
Speaker 7: us that uh hell, Trump was the best savior of

3074
03:11:48,000 --> 03:11:51,680
Speaker 7: America and for black folks. So it just depends on

3075
03:11:51,800 --> 03:11:56,039
Speaker 7: the man set of those who project uh the work

3076
03:11:56,160 --> 03:11:59,520
Speaker 7: of different people. Uh. In our newspaper in fact, that

3077
03:11:59,600 --> 03:12:03,280
Speaker 7: you made mentioned of this called we have a partly

3078
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Speaker 7: newspaper which is called The African News World, and people

3079
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Speaker 7: can access it by going to our website www dot

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Speaker 7: u a p o dot org and on page five,

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Speaker 7: in fact, we have an article which is entitled on

3082
03:12:25,000 --> 03:12:30,160
Speaker 7: indifferent wilets, perk and politics of Black Mourning. And it's

3083
03:12:30,160 --> 03:12:34,040
Speaker 7: a great article which deals with the fact that in

3084
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Speaker 7: the sense that we how can we warn a racist

3085
03:12:37,320 --> 03:12:40,440
Speaker 7: such as Charlie Church, you know, as they tried to

3086
03:12:40,480 --> 03:12:43,279
Speaker 7: put that out across America that everybody should be mourning

3087
03:12:43,360 --> 03:12:48,200
Speaker 7: him and holding them up as aposta. In fact, right

3088
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Speaker 7: here in Saint Louis County, one of the on the

3089
03:12:52,240 --> 03:13:00,080
Speaker 7: Saint Louis County government board was making a proposed a

3090
03:13:00,120 --> 03:13:02,960
Speaker 7: solution to salute him, and I had to make sure

3091
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Speaker 7: I was there in attendance to speak out against it.

3092
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Speaker 7: And I'll never forget, Uh. You had a it was

3093
03:13:11,240 --> 03:13:13,879
Speaker 7: packed with white people, you know, I guess in support

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03:13:13,920 --> 03:13:17,279
Speaker 7: of it. And one of the you had both sides

3095
03:13:17,320 --> 03:13:20,560
Speaker 7: that spoke part and against it. So one one of

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03:13:20,600 --> 03:13:23,760
Speaker 7: the speakers was sharing that he was a great father.

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Speaker 8: And well hold up though right there at Brother Zachy

3098
03:13:26,680 --> 03:13:28,440
Speaker 8: that step aside for our last break, I want to

3099
03:13:28,480 --> 03:13:30,040
Speaker 8: come back. I'll let you finish telling the story. And

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03:13:30,080 --> 03:13:32,520
Speaker 8: also Thomas and Baltimore wants to speak to you family.

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03:13:32,560 --> 03:13:35,359
Speaker 8: You two can join our conversation with brother Zaqi Brewery.

3102
03:13:35,600 --> 03:13:37,520
Speaker 8: Just reach out to us. It's real symbol. Our telephone

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03:13:37,600 --> 03:13:40,800
Speaker 8: numbers told Freed sils A worldwide. It is eight hundred

3104
03:13:40,840 --> 03:13:44,080
Speaker 8: four five zero seventy eight seventy six and we'll take

3105
03:13:44,080 --> 03:13:44,959
Speaker 8: your phone calls.

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Speaker 15: Next fourteen fifty wol.

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Speaker 2: Now back to the Carl Nelson Show.

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Speaker 8: And Grand Rising family. Thanks for sharing your the day

3109
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Speaker 8: morning with us. I guess there, Brother Zachie Bruddy from

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Speaker 8: the Universal amcrim People's Organization. They're based in Saint Louis.

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03:14:51,520 --> 03:14:53,120
Speaker 8: Before we go back to let me just remind you

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03:14:53,160 --> 03:14:54,720
Speaker 8: come up. In the next few days. You can hear

3113
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Speaker 8: from a clinical psychologist, doctor jerrem Ey Fox. Many of

3114
03:14:58,080 --> 03:14:59,880
Speaker 8: you know him from his best selling workbook I Think

3115
03:15:00,080 --> 03:15:02,400
Speaker 8: to Wipe the Oppressed in the League with the Oppressor,

3116
03:15:02,760 --> 03:15:04,879
Speaker 8: the part of the title I Love Best Shame based

3117
03:15:04,920 --> 03:15:08,760
Speaker 8: Alliance also QUANSA creator Doctor Milana Kringle will be here

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03:15:08,800 --> 03:15:10,440
Speaker 8: as well, So if you're in Baltimore, make sure you

3119
03:15:10,520 --> 03:15:12,840
Speaker 8: keep you ready, locked and tight on ten ten WLB

3120
03:15:13,200 --> 03:15:16,560
Speaker 8: or if you'm the DMV family were around fourteen fifty WL.

3121
03:15:16,600 --> 03:15:18,280
Speaker 8: All right, brother Zacha, you got some first wanting to

3122
03:15:18,280 --> 03:15:20,720
Speaker 8: talk to you, but I'll let you finish it. Your thoughts,

3123
03:15:20,959 --> 03:15:22,959
Speaker 8: the comparisons, and we're probably going to hear more of

3124
03:15:22,959 --> 03:15:25,680
Speaker 8: it we get closer to doctor King's birthday in the

3125
03:15:25,680 --> 03:15:28,879
Speaker 8: next few weeks. Send this fellow Charlie Kirk is similar

3126
03:15:28,920 --> 03:15:31,160
Speaker 8: to doctor King. Most people that I know, I think

3127
03:15:31,160 --> 03:15:34,000
Speaker 8: it's just totally outrageous, but I'll let you finish your thoughts.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it is outrageous, but I was just sharing that.

3129
03:15:36,840 --> 03:15:39,760
Speaker 7: In Saint Louis County, one of our county council members

3130
03:15:40,360 --> 03:15:44,200
Speaker 7: was trying to pass the resolution honoring him, and of

3131
03:15:44,240 --> 03:15:46,680
Speaker 7: course I had to be there to speak out against it,

3132
03:15:47,200 --> 03:15:50,280
Speaker 7: and in the midst of the many people were there.

3133
03:15:50,320 --> 03:15:52,960
Speaker 7: Some of the speakers who were speaking in half of

3134
03:15:53,000 --> 03:15:55,200
Speaker 7: the resolution were insight of the fact that he was

3135
03:15:55,240 --> 03:15:58,480
Speaker 7: a good Christian and a good family man, so in

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03:15:58,560 --> 03:16:01,200
Speaker 7: my response, I first asked the audience to take a

3137
03:16:01,240 --> 03:16:05,240
Speaker 7: minute out reflect on the hanging dell at that time

3138
03:16:05,280 --> 03:16:10,160
Speaker 7: when he was shot and killed Charlie Kirk. But within

3139
03:16:10,240 --> 03:16:16,040
Speaker 7: that time frame brother in Mississippi, a student, that is,

3140
03:16:16,800 --> 03:16:21,800
Speaker 7: they marched Trevion Trey Reid was found hanging on the

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Speaker 7: campus tree at that time, and I shared with everybody

3142
03:16:26,000 --> 03:16:28,000
Speaker 7: that they used to take a moment to reflect on that.

3143
03:16:28,560 --> 03:16:31,000
Speaker 7: And then I addressed the fact that they say he

3144
03:16:31,080 --> 03:16:34,320
Speaker 7: was a Christian man and a good family man. Were hell,

3145
03:16:34,440 --> 03:16:38,000
Speaker 7: you had slaveholders who were so called Christians as well

3146
03:16:38,120 --> 03:16:41,240
Speaker 7: as family men. So it ain't mean nothing but bottom

3147
03:16:41,280 --> 03:16:44,240
Speaker 7: line that the resolution didn't pass. So we were able

3148
03:16:44,280 --> 03:16:49,200
Speaker 7: to block that. So and so that's the outrageous thought

3149
03:16:49,440 --> 03:16:54,280
Speaker 7: to even compared the two. I'm in agreement with you.

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03:16:53,840 --> 03:16:56,959
Speaker 8: Totally seventeen away from Tyler, I mentioned tell Us wants

3151
03:16:57,000 --> 03:16:59,600
Speaker 8: to join the discussion. He's online too, He's calling from Baltimore.

3152
03:16:59,640 --> 03:17:02,560
Speaker 8: Grand Brother Jaki Burudi.

3153
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Speaker 7: Grand Rising.

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Speaker 26: I wanted to add this to the conversation when we

3155
03:17:09,040 --> 03:17:11,480
Speaker 26: when we speak of Kadafi. I don't know whether this

3156
03:17:11,720 --> 03:17:15,760
Speaker 26: was mentioned or not. As well as they were in

3157
03:17:15,840 --> 03:17:19,880
Speaker 26: fear of his international work they were more in fear

3158
03:17:20,200 --> 03:17:24,279
Speaker 26: of his relationship with Kyli Muhammad, who arranged the meeting

3159
03:17:24,360 --> 03:17:28,120
Speaker 26: between him and Minister Phara Khan, and he gave Minister

3160
03:17:28,200 --> 03:17:32,800
Speaker 26: Farai Khan the first time five million dollars. And after

3161
03:17:32,920 --> 03:17:36,880
Speaker 26: the Million Man March, Kadafi spoke to the audience when

3162
03:17:37,240 --> 03:17:41,000
Speaker 26: the minister did a follow up, and Kadafi said to

3163
03:17:41,280 --> 03:17:45,280
Speaker 26: us in a lecture, because he came and spoke before

3164
03:17:45,280 --> 03:17:48,720
Speaker 26: the minister came on, and said, when I saw what

3165
03:17:48,920 --> 03:17:52,800
Speaker 26: you've done with that million man march, I saw that

3166
03:17:52,879 --> 03:17:56,199
Speaker 26: it was still hope for the black man and woman

3167
03:17:56,280 --> 03:18:00,200
Speaker 26: in America, and now I would put the wealth of

3168
03:18:00,280 --> 03:18:05,039
Speaker 26: Libya to uplift the black man and woman in America.

3169
03:18:05,560 --> 03:18:10,920
Speaker 26: And offered Minister Fara Khan the wealth over a billion dollars.

3170
03:18:11,280 --> 03:18:16,200
Speaker 26: And then this government went to work and said that

3171
03:18:16,959 --> 03:18:20,960
Speaker 26: they created a law that no one in America could

3172
03:18:21,040 --> 03:18:25,920
Speaker 26: take money from a rogue nation to stop Kadossi from

3173
03:18:25,959 --> 03:18:30,320
Speaker 26: giving black Americans money to help us in our condition.

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Speaker 26: That has to be mentioned. So I wanted to add that, brother.

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Speaker 7: Thank you for that. I did briefly mention it that

3176
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Speaker 7: and in fact things one on my first trip to Libya,

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Speaker 7: Collin was on our nether Man College, had a great relationship, okay,

3178
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Speaker 7: and I salute him. And also it was under Clinton

3179
03:18:56,800 --> 03:18:59,040
Speaker 7: where they passed that bill, and in fact, we had

3180
03:18:59,080 --> 03:19:03,720
Speaker 7: a demonstration, came to Saint Louis and uh we spoke

3181
03:19:03,760 --> 03:19:06,200
Speaker 7: out against him. Now the loan that money had come

3182
03:19:06,240 --> 03:19:10,280
Speaker 7: to our community. Uh, through the Nation of Islam. But

3183
03:19:10,600 --> 03:19:12,800
Speaker 7: that's a great point that you made. I appreciate that.

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03:19:14,480 --> 03:19:16,600
Speaker 8: Let me just remin ask the question. Was it because

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03:19:17,200 --> 03:19:19,120
Speaker 8: as they claimed that Libya was a road nation? It

3186
03:19:19,240 --> 03:19:21,080
Speaker 8: was because the money was going to the nation. What

3187
03:19:21,120 --> 03:19:23,119
Speaker 8: was what was why did they object?

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03:19:24,600 --> 03:19:27,280
Speaker 7: I don't know the exact logic that they had for

3189
03:19:27,480 --> 03:19:30,520
Speaker 7: but the bottom line is they were blocking it. That

3190
03:19:30,680 --> 03:19:34,840
Speaker 7: was the bottom line. They blocked the money. And again

3191
03:19:34,920 --> 03:19:38,600
Speaker 7: I just want to emphasize under the Democratic Party leadership

3192
03:19:38,680 --> 03:19:41,840
Speaker 7: of Bill Clinton that did that. And again I want

3193
03:19:41,879 --> 03:19:45,640
Speaker 7: to remind the people it was Hillary Clinton who made

3194
03:19:45,720 --> 03:19:48,720
Speaker 7: that infamous and evil statement that we came. We saw

3195
03:19:48,840 --> 03:19:52,400
Speaker 7: he died and I was laughing about it. So that

3196
03:19:52,480 --> 03:19:53,320
Speaker 7: was through the Clinton.

3197
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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, on her resume too, she's the one who

3198
03:19:56,600 --> 03:20:00,680
Speaker 8: started the thing about birthsm with Obama picked it up,

3199
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Speaker 8: so that's also on her resume. For all your folks,

3200
03:20:04,520 --> 03:20:09,000
Speaker 8: Clinton lovers fourteen away from the top. They allan he's

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Speaker 8: joining us online. Three grand rising, you're my brother, Zaki

3202
03:20:12,320 --> 03:20:18,280
Speaker 8: Buruti is Demo there not hearing it?

3203
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Speaker 5: Yes, Hello, I'm there, you are go ahead.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm here.

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Speaker 28: Thank you so much. This is a powerful conversation and

3206
03:20:26,520 --> 03:20:32,120
Speaker 28: I just wanted to read to emphasize and underscore the

3207
03:20:32,160 --> 03:20:39,000
Speaker 28: brothers efforts that are you know, across interspiritual, inter religious, intercultural,

3208
03:20:40,200 --> 03:20:43,840
Speaker 28: tan cultural, Pan African and global African and in the

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03:20:43,879 --> 03:20:47,960
Speaker 28: sense of I had an experience with a sister who

3210
03:20:48,040 --> 03:20:53,680
Speaker 28: was a member of Bombie Baba's group here in the US,

3211
03:20:54,400 --> 03:20:59,600
Speaker 28: and I also visited a retreat where he spoke, and

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03:20:59,720 --> 03:21:02,200
Speaker 28: the story that stood out to me that for me

3213
03:21:02,360 --> 03:21:06,160
Speaker 28: was so astonishing was that, as you know, I'm not

3214
03:21:06,160 --> 03:21:08,760
Speaker 28: sure it was mentioned that he was from Uganda, he

3215
03:21:08,840 --> 03:21:12,760
Speaker 28: was not a Muslim per se, and but he you know,

3216
03:21:12,879 --> 03:21:16,599
Speaker 28: was a believer of course, and one of the outstanding

3217
03:21:16,640 --> 03:21:20,000
Speaker 28: stories that he told was he was summoned to the

3218
03:21:20,040 --> 03:21:23,520
Speaker 28: deathbed of a woman who only wanted to make hodge

3219
03:21:23,560 --> 03:21:26,959
Speaker 28: that was her wish. He was summoned her to her

3220
03:21:26,959 --> 03:21:31,600
Speaker 28: hospital bed and all we all her family knows is

3221
03:21:31,640 --> 03:21:35,560
Speaker 28: that he sat with her and then after he left,

3222
03:21:36,000 --> 03:21:39,480
Speaker 28: she felt that she had actually made her hodge, her

3223
03:21:39,520 --> 03:21:44,200
Speaker 28: pilgrimage to Mecca and just from his just from his

3224
03:21:44,360 --> 03:21:47,920
Speaker 28: being there, this brother was a saint, and so it

3225
03:21:48,040 --> 03:21:51,520
Speaker 28: was just an astonishing story that the woman died peacefully,

3226
03:21:51,560 --> 03:21:55,080
Speaker 28: she made her hodge and it was due to the

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03:21:55,120 --> 03:21:58,039
Speaker 28: presence of this very holy man. And we have these

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03:21:58,120 --> 03:22:01,120
Speaker 28: kind of holy men in our community, and it's just

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03:22:01,240 --> 03:22:07,440
Speaker 28: beautiful that this brother, brother what's your name's up? I

3230
03:22:07,480 --> 03:22:13,160
Speaker 28: don't yes, you're bringing up the wonderful qualities of unity

3231
03:22:13,480 --> 03:22:16,720
Speaker 28: and Emojia and Ubuntu and how it looks, how it

3232
03:22:16,800 --> 03:22:18,000
Speaker 28: actually comes about.

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Speaker 10: And looks, and thank you for that. I'm complete, thank you.

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03:22:21,000 --> 03:22:23,920
Speaker 5: Thank you, brother said.

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Speaker 7: I just want to thank her for those comments and

3236
03:22:26,959 --> 03:22:30,800
Speaker 7: in that she may mention what we're doing. I just

3237
03:22:30,840 --> 03:22:34,480
Speaker 7: want to also re emphasize to h your listeners that

3238
03:22:35,080 --> 03:22:39,600
Speaker 7: we are engaging in UH this project of sending books

3239
03:22:39,680 --> 03:22:42,440
Speaker 7: to UH Gambia and the kind of books that we're

3240
03:22:42,520 --> 03:22:50,240
Speaker 7: sending or afrocentric books, technical slash vocational books UH anybody,

3241
03:22:50,280 --> 03:22:54,160
Speaker 7: and we UH in the process of collecting books in

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03:22:54,200 --> 03:22:57,640
Speaker 7: the Saint Louis area. Right now. People can also ship

3243
03:22:57,720 --> 03:23:01,279
Speaker 7: books to us, one of my couple my good friends

3244
03:23:01,320 --> 03:23:03,720
Speaker 7: of male books to us, including my good brother out

3245
03:23:03,760 --> 03:23:08,880
Speaker 7: of Baltimore, Bill Gooden. And if anybody's interested in helping us,

3246
03:23:09,360 --> 03:23:12,680
Speaker 7: they can give us a call or going our website

3247
03:23:12,720 --> 03:23:17,720
Speaker 7: www dot UAPO dot org or called our office three

3248
03:23:17,800 --> 03:23:22,160
Speaker 7: one four eight three three four one five one. And

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03:23:22,280 --> 03:23:25,360
Speaker 7: also I give out my personal number three one four

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03:23:26,000 --> 03:23:30,400
Speaker 7: four seven seven forty six twenty nine. And we want

3251
03:23:30,480 --> 03:23:33,040
Speaker 7: to do this as an example that needs to be

3252
03:23:33,080 --> 03:23:37,720
Speaker 7: taking place all across America, out of major cities like Detroit, Chicago,

3253
03:23:38,120 --> 03:23:41,879
Speaker 7: wherever is the conscious Black community. We need to be

3254
03:23:42,400 --> 03:23:45,560
Speaker 7: helping our brothers and sisters, not just here in this country,

3255
03:23:45,840 --> 03:23:51,000
Speaker 7: but internationally. And the vision of the Honorable Marcus Messiah

3256
03:23:51,040 --> 03:23:55,640
Speaker 7: Garvey was a powerful position that you know, like a

3257
03:23:55,879 --> 03:24:02,040
Speaker 7: United States of Africa or solo African unificition. And my prayer,

3258
03:24:02,200 --> 03:24:05,680
Speaker 7: my dream is to see in my lifetime where Africa

3259
03:24:05,920 --> 03:24:10,320
Speaker 7: is totally united, but first of all militarily is equal

3260
03:24:10,440 --> 03:24:15,879
Speaker 7: to other world powers, and of course economically and educationally

3261
03:24:16,040 --> 03:24:19,000
Speaker 7: is powerful also. For I mean that should be the

3262
03:24:19,080 --> 03:24:22,440
Speaker 7: vision for all of us, because once Africa is strong

3263
03:24:22,560 --> 03:24:26,920
Speaker 7: and united, will help us in our fight for liberation

3264
03:24:27,040 --> 03:24:30,080
Speaker 7: and equality within the conference of this country and throughout

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03:24:30,120 --> 03:24:30,760
Speaker 7: the diaspora.

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03:24:31,680 --> 03:24:34,160
Speaker 8: AH shaded that ten away from the top. In a

3267
03:24:34,280 --> 03:24:36,800
Speaker 8: moment remaining moments, I want to talk to you about Ferguson,

3268
03:24:36,879 --> 03:24:40,320
Speaker 8: Mike Brown. You know the whole thing about Mike Brown.

3269
03:24:40,360 --> 03:24:43,360
Speaker 8: The death was looked into and you got involved in

3270
03:24:43,400 --> 03:24:45,680
Speaker 8: this that many of the people in the elected officials

3271
03:24:45,959 --> 03:24:49,240
Speaker 8: in a predominantly black suburb of Saint Louis or white.

3272
03:24:49,640 --> 03:24:52,080
Speaker 8: Has that changed the brother Zaqui.

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03:24:53,160 --> 03:24:57,760
Speaker 7: Well, immediately after the death, shall I say, the murdering

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03:24:57,800 --> 03:25:03,600
Speaker 7: assassination of Mike Brown Junior, which our organization was very

3275
03:25:03,680 --> 03:25:09,280
Speaker 7: deeply involved in. Fact, we had also informed created like

3276
03:25:09,400 --> 03:25:12,640
Speaker 7: a Michael Brown Leadership Coalition, which I was one of

3277
03:25:12,680 --> 03:25:16,720
Speaker 7: the CoA chairs for that. And just to give an

3278
03:25:16,720 --> 03:25:20,240
Speaker 7: example of the beastliness of this system, they allowed his

3279
03:25:20,400 --> 03:25:24,320
Speaker 7: body to lay over three to four hours on the

3280
03:25:24,400 --> 03:25:30,800
Speaker 7: concrete on a hot day in August of twenty fourteen. Immunity.

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03:25:30,920 --> 03:25:36,120
Speaker 7: After that has been some political changes, but it looked

3282
03:25:36,160 --> 03:25:39,160
Speaker 7: like they're being reversed here in the city of Saint Louis.

3283
03:25:39,440 --> 03:25:43,840
Speaker 7: But in Ferguson, you had the first elected black mayor

3284
03:25:44,040 --> 03:25:47,480
Speaker 7: of Ferguson. You got the first black chief. You don't

3285
03:25:47,520 --> 03:25:53,200
Speaker 7: have as many of the police stops for traffic violation

3286
03:25:53,400 --> 03:25:57,640
Speaker 7: supposedly where they were building up their budget in Ferguson

3287
03:25:57,840 --> 03:26:03,800
Speaker 7: and having no cash, no bail situations for many of

3288
03:26:03,840 --> 03:26:07,240
Speaker 7: the oppressed people in the area. Some of that has changed.

3289
03:26:08,280 --> 03:26:10,440
Speaker 7: But in the city of Saint Louis, you had a

3290
03:26:10,480 --> 03:26:16,439
Speaker 7: carryover with blacks being elected to the city wide positions,

3291
03:26:16,480 --> 03:26:18,920
Speaker 7: which in Saint Louis, I believe it was nine city

3292
03:26:18,920 --> 03:26:22,400
Speaker 7: wide positions and black people held at least seven of

3293
03:26:22,480 --> 03:26:25,600
Speaker 7: those positions in the city that's supposed to have been

3294
03:26:25,600 --> 03:26:29,240
Speaker 7: about fifty to fifty percent black white. But that has

3295
03:26:30,160 --> 03:26:36,280
Speaker 7: been a reversal taking place. In fact, the first black

3296
03:26:36,360 --> 03:26:40,400
Speaker 7: female mayor of the City of Saint Louis, to sharl Jones,

3297
03:26:40,959 --> 03:26:45,800
Speaker 7: was just recently defeated along with a long time city controller,

3298
03:26:45,920 --> 03:26:51,520
Speaker 7: first black female city controller, Darling Green, and then the

3299
03:26:51,600 --> 03:26:56,320
Speaker 7: first black female circuit attorney, Kim Gardner, was driven out

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03:26:56,400 --> 03:27:02,440
Speaker 7: of office and in fact old car they just not

3301
03:27:02,520 --> 03:27:07,080
Speaker 7: only because she took a position of charging and led

3302
03:27:07,240 --> 03:27:14,800
Speaker 7: to the surrender of his position. Eric a black governor

3303
03:27:14,840 --> 03:27:19,800
Speaker 7: here in Missouri, where he ended up having to resign

3304
03:27:20,160 --> 03:27:25,000
Speaker 7: because Tim was after him. She before that they had

3305
03:27:25,040 --> 03:27:27,440
Speaker 7: promised that they would drive her from office, which they

3306
03:27:27,560 --> 03:27:30,640
Speaker 7: end up doing, and now they're even trying to take

3307
03:27:30,640 --> 03:27:33,480
Speaker 7: her law license, which we were at a recent hearing

3308
03:27:34,000 --> 03:27:42,120
Speaker 7: in support of her. So also the recently elected sheriff Black,

3309
03:27:42,200 --> 03:27:46,039
Speaker 7: the young brother is under attacked apparently right now and

3310
03:27:46,080 --> 03:27:48,560
Speaker 7: they're trying to take his position. So there are some

3311
03:27:48,879 --> 03:27:52,680
Speaker 7: reversals that's taken place in the Saint Louis area, which

3312
03:27:52,720 --> 03:27:54,320
Speaker 7: again we got to fight against him.

3313
03:27:55,320 --> 03:27:58,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, what part of promise too? Though folks don't want

3314
03:27:58,360 --> 03:28:00,320
Speaker 8: to go to vote, don't don't want to go to

3315
03:28:00,360 --> 03:28:03,320
Speaker 8: the polls. There's you know, there's sort of photo apathy.

3316
03:28:03,360 --> 03:28:06,240
Speaker 8: They believe that they can't make a difference. May and

3317
03:28:06,440 --> 03:28:09,039
Speaker 8: people have sold in that those bill of goods. How

3318
03:28:09,040 --> 03:28:10,160
Speaker 8: do we turn that around?

3319
03:28:11,959 --> 03:28:15,440
Speaker 7: That's a great question. Uh call, I guess that would

3320
03:28:15,440 --> 03:28:19,000
Speaker 7: be allowed to bease a lot of I wish I

3321
03:28:19,040 --> 03:28:22,080
Speaker 7: had to answer. Of course, I would be encouraging one

3322
03:28:22,160 --> 03:28:26,320
Speaker 7: hundred percent voter turnout, which we do advocate that in

3323
03:28:26,400 --> 03:28:30,800
Speaker 7: every election that people should not only vote, you need

3324
03:28:30,840 --> 03:28:35,000
Speaker 7: to know the issues before you go to the polls. Now,

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03:28:35,520 --> 03:28:39,680
Speaker 7: I guess they don't take pol political education classes and

3326
03:28:39,720 --> 03:28:42,280
Speaker 7: then that going back when we talk about the school system,

3327
03:28:42,360 --> 03:28:47,199
Speaker 7: it should be have some classes on why it's important

3328
03:28:47,240 --> 03:28:50,000
Speaker 7: to vote for the students so that to come out

3329
03:28:50,040 --> 03:28:54,440
Speaker 7: of school knowing that it should be a duty a

3330
03:28:54,600 --> 03:28:59,720
Speaker 7: responsibility for everybody in our community to vote. Because of

3331
03:29:00,240 --> 03:29:05,080
Speaker 7: not voting, you let people in the office that have

3332
03:29:05,200 --> 03:29:10,000
Speaker 7: an agenda that's really anti our people, anti black, and

3333
03:29:10,520 --> 03:29:12,800
Speaker 7: all you allow people to come in. If they're not

3334
03:29:12,879 --> 03:29:16,800
Speaker 7: anti black, they just be in f or non functional.

3335
03:29:17,440 --> 03:29:21,440
Speaker 7: So so that's why it's important. So I guess, uh,

3336
03:29:21,879 --> 03:29:24,520
Speaker 7: we each one got to teach one is one strategy,

3337
03:29:25,040 --> 03:29:28,000
Speaker 7: and then I guess we got to have more political,

3338
03:29:28,480 --> 03:29:34,160
Speaker 7: uh educational classes. And I try not to. I always

3339
03:29:34,240 --> 03:29:37,440
Speaker 7: try to that is practice what I preach. And in fact,

3340
03:29:37,760 --> 03:29:41,879
Speaker 7: first week in January, when we're having a political discussion

3341
03:29:42,480 --> 03:29:46,200
Speaker 7: with one of the former one of our shogos as

3342
03:29:46,240 --> 03:29:50,160
Speaker 7: I had mentioned, Corey Bush and h as an organization.

3343
03:29:50,320 --> 03:29:56,039
Speaker 7: Over the years, we've had different forums preaching different elected officials.

3344
03:29:56,360 --> 03:30:00,440
Speaker 7: So we you know, it's upon progressive organizations to lead

3345
03:30:00,520 --> 03:30:03,959
Speaker 7: the charge to try to educate our people. But we

3346
03:30:04,080 --> 03:30:08,760
Speaker 7: need more people involved in organizations that a Kwame Terrey

3347
03:30:08,800 --> 03:30:12,440
Speaker 7: will say too, that should be a badge, honor belonging

3348
03:30:12,520 --> 03:30:18,320
Speaker 7: to somebody's organization that has a track record of working

3349
03:30:18,360 --> 03:30:22,120
Speaker 7: to uplift our people and speaking truth to power. And

3350
03:30:22,200 --> 03:30:24,840
Speaker 7: if you don't have an organization that's like that, you

3351
03:30:24,879 --> 03:30:27,800
Speaker 7: need to form one of like mindedness. But there's enough

3352
03:30:27,920 --> 03:30:31,320
Speaker 7: organizations that I believe have that track record, just a

3353
03:30:31,360 --> 03:30:34,880
Speaker 7: matter of people getting up and getting involved. And if

3354
03:30:34,920 --> 03:30:40,879
Speaker 7: you can't be on Alliance full time or at protests

3355
03:30:40,879 --> 03:30:44,520
Speaker 7: at least you can't financially support those movements that you

3356
03:30:44,600 --> 03:30:46,560
Speaker 7: know are trying to make a difference.

3357
03:30:46,840 --> 03:30:49,080
Speaker 8: All right, and we got to cut it there, Brother Zachy,

3358
03:30:49,160 --> 03:30:50,960
Speaker 8: I thank you, Thank you for all the information you

3359
03:30:51,040 --> 03:30:53,039
Speaker 8: shared for us. Thank you for the work that you

3360
03:30:53,120 --> 03:30:55,320
Speaker 8: put in, brother, because you're still doing it, you know,

3361
03:30:55,400 --> 03:30:57,960
Speaker 8: after all these years, you're still an activist in Saint

3362
03:30:58,000 --> 03:31:01,080
Speaker 8: Louis and beyond international. So I just want to thank

3363
03:31:01,120 --> 03:31:03,160
Speaker 8: you personally for what you do for us as a people.

3364
03:31:04,120 --> 03:31:06,400
Speaker 7: Thank you, Paul for what you're doing in terms of

3365
03:31:06,560 --> 03:31:08,480
Speaker 7: educating our people. God bless you, brother.

3366
03:31:09,360 --> 03:31:11,480
Speaker 8: I accept that, and thank you. Family. That's it for

3367
03:31:11,520 --> 03:31:15,560
Speaker 8: the day. Classes dismissed. Stay strong, stay positive, please please

3368
03:31:15,600 --> 03:31:18,039
Speaker 8: stay healthy. We'll see you tomorrow morning. Six o'clock right

3369
03:31:18,080 --> 03:31:21,680
Speaker 8: here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB, and also in

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03:31:21,720 --> 03:32:05,800
Speaker 8: the DMV I'M fourteen fifteen, WOL.

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3375
03:32:27,640 --> 03:32:30,359
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03:32:30,360 --> 03:32:33,959
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03:32:34,000 --> 03:32:35,600
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