WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panthers/Packers Victory Formula 

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my friend Matt. Posh, come on, Posh.

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<v Speaker 1>This is my friend T-Bone.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's have some fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.

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<v Speaker 2>Do it live.

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<v Speaker 4>The way that I've seen it is teams typically don't

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<v Speaker 4>just go completely away from what they've been doing schematically.

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<v Speaker 4>And the things that you do just get better when

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<v Speaker 4>you get your great players back. Josh Jacobs is a

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<v Speaker 4>fantastic runner. Showed his ability out of the backfield, on

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<v Speaker 4>the perimeter. Just missed a little double move touchdown off

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<v Speaker 4>of his fingertips down the field. But these are things

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<v Speaker 4>that he can bring to this offense that's already an

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<v Speaker 4>explosive offense with a lot of speed outside. So you

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<v Speaker 4>factor all those things in. knowing that, all right, it's

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<v Speaker 4>probably going to still be the similar styles of runs

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<v Speaker 4>and things they're going to be doing. Now you've got

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<v Speaker 4>to factor in the tackling plan, and we've got to

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<v Speaker 4>get up there and team tackle them and make sure

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<v Speaker 4>we're maintaining leverage and everybody's got to run to the

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<v Speaker 4>ball because he will at times make that first-person miss,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's making sure that we show up together is critical.

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<v Speaker 5>There you go, Coach Canales talking about that Green Bay offense.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a team whose running game is dead last

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<v Speaker 5>in damn near every category you can imagine, but whose

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<v Speaker 5>passing game has had some big-time moments before. with Jordan Love, Golden,

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<v Speaker 5>who may not play. That could be part of the

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<v Speaker 5>victory formula as Golden sits out this one. But Watson's

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<v Speaker 5>been amazing. Tucker Kraft is coming back healthy. He's got

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<v Speaker 5>29 catches. So it's an interesting offense to go up

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<v Speaker 5>against in Lambeau tomorrow night. And whether you're ready for

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<v Speaker 5>it or not, it's a short week. We've got to

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<v Speaker 5>pull ourselves together here, Bone. We've got to flush it,

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<v Speaker 5>as Dave Canales and.

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<v Speaker 2>The boys would say.

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<v Speaker 5>And we've got to come up with our victory formula.

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<v Speaker 3>It's now been added to the soundboard, by the way.

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<v Speaker 6>We got a mop and we got a toilet for

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<v Speaker 6>all the crap that goes on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. It's move on time. We have to

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<v Speaker 2>move on. Forget it. It sucked. It's over. It's now

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<v Speaker 2>all about... Grilling the cheese. Anything there's so honest. I noticed, Boney.

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<v Speaker 2>Grilling the cheese.

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<v Speaker 7>I love it, man. How do we grill the cheese

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<v Speaker 7>tomorrow night? I'm going to work that in until somebody

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<v Speaker 7>on this show laughs.

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<v Speaker 2>I like it.

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<v Speaker 7>Three days of this. I definitely like it. If I

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<v Speaker 7>would have said cut the cheese, you would laugh. We

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<v Speaker 7>got to deal with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't worry.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing that myself.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 5>Multiple people, including AC now and another texter. are bringing

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<v Speaker 5>up the fact that Josh Jacobs is back. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 5>he had 11 carries for 36 yards the other day.

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<v Speaker 5>To me, the problem, and I'm not saying that I

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<v Speaker 5>would rather face someone other than Josh Jacobs, but the

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<v Speaker 5>problem with them, the biggest problem is their run blocking

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<v Speaker 5>is horrendous. They are 31st in the league bone and

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<v Speaker 5>run blocking.

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<v Speaker 2>Their center and right.

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<v Speaker 5>Guard might not play this week to make their offensive

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<v Speaker 5>line even worse. So they are averaging 59 yards a

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<v Speaker 5>game on the ground. They are averaging 2.9 yards a carry,

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<v Speaker 5>and they have not had more than 86 yards in

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<v Speaker 5>a single game rushing.

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<v Speaker 2>Make them one-dimensional.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand right now that the masses do not think

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<v Speaker 5>much of our run defense, but I need to remind you.

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<v Speaker 2>Of what happened in the four weeks before last week.

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<v Speaker 5>This team is capable, Bone, of, to me, holding up

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<v Speaker 5>up front against a run game and an offensive line

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<v Speaker 5>like this. They absolutely have to make them one-dimensional. And

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<v Speaker 5>don't get me wrong, Jordan Love could still beat you,

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<v Speaker 5>You know, with our corners out on his own. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>but I think you have to make they have to

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<v Speaker 5>be the stinky run team.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been all season.

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<v Speaker 7>Here's some interesting stats to go off what you're saying, Mac.

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<v Speaker 7>You would think that they would have this offense that

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<v Speaker 7>scoring Buku points per game. They are first in the

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<v Speaker 7>league in pass play percentage. They are fifth in the league.

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<v Speaker 7>in pass yards per game at 268. So you're thinking, wow,

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<v Speaker 7>they have to be way up there in a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of offensive categories. But they run the ball so poorly,

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<v Speaker 7>they're only 24th in the league in points per game.

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<v Speaker 7>You would think on the surface, the way Jordan Love

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<v Speaker 7>throws it down the field, the wide outs, Tucker Craft,

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<v Speaker 7>oh yeah, they're putting up a ton of points. They

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<v Speaker 7>are 24th in points per game. They are 32nd, Mac, in,

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<v Speaker 7>excuse me, they are 30th in red zone percentage, red

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<v Speaker 7>zone scoring percentage for touchdowns and on third downs they

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<v Speaker 7>are 28th in the league so in a lot of

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<v Speaker 7>big time stats they're actually not there because they're so

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<v Speaker 7>unbalanced not.

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<v Speaker 5>Finishing drives off into red zone not at all so

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<v Speaker 5>it's kind of surprising to me based off what we

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<v Speaker 5>think of the green bay pack but if you can't

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<v Speaker 5>run the ball your red zone offense is going to

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<v Speaker 5>struggle right that's one of the things you got you

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<v Speaker 5>got to be able to do in the red.

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<v Speaker 7>Zone They're actually better defensively in a lot of areas

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<v Speaker 7>than they are on some offensive categories.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, defensively, they're fourth in EPA per play defensively.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll say this, too, about Jordan Love. The man can

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<v Speaker 5>throw a deep ball. And those two receivers, Watson's averaging

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<v Speaker 5>17.5 yards a catch, which is absurd. Golden's averaging 15

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<v Speaker 5>yards a catch. You've got to keep everything in front

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<v Speaker 5>of you. I know that people don't like this. They

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<v Speaker 5>don't like, oh, the umbrella coverage. That's all finesse. But

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<v Speaker 5>to me, you've got to make them incrementally drive it

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<v Speaker 5>down the field. You also can get turnovers on Jordan Love.

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<v Speaker 5>Jordan Love's got 12 turnover-worthy plays this season. Bryce Young

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<v Speaker 5>has three. Jordan Love has 12, according to PFF. This

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<v Speaker 5>is a dude that will throw you the football. Hell,

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<v Speaker 5>we saw it last year in the game against the Packers.

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<v Speaker 2>You're better off.

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<v Speaker 7>Not that it's ideal, but you're better off with Tucker

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<v Speaker 7>Kraft underneath getting the ball more so than those plays

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<v Speaker 7>down the field where they get 40, 50 yards of

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<v Speaker 7>pass play.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 7>So you're better off with Kraft getting his yardage than

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<v Speaker 7>the other two guys.

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<v Speaker 2>And the golden is obviously questionable, too, in this game.

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<v Speaker 5>Just yeah, you just got to keep things in front

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<v Speaker 5>of you. And then they're 30 percent red, 30th and

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<v Speaker 5>red zone comes in. right then you can get off

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<v Speaker 5>the field make them kick a field goal instead of

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<v Speaker 5>a damn touchdown you know i talk about those four-point

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<v Speaker 5>plays all the time i.

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<v Speaker 7>Have an observation based off your turnover thing there you

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<v Speaker 7>mentioned what about winning the turnover battle.

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<v Speaker 5>We have been horrible in the turnover battle of late

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<v Speaker 5>i gotta look up the numbers on how bad it's

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<v Speaker 5>been man just brutal That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's been said a whole lot

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<v Speaker 2>in these formulas.

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<v Speaker 5>Somebody said run the ball, stop the run, and win

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<v Speaker 5>the turnover battle. You're done here, Mac. You're done here.

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<v Speaker 5>I got to look this up, Boney, on the Panthers.

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<v Speaker 7>D-Rig says don't let Caleb Evans off the plane at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's injured anyway here. He may not play.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got a triceps injury, so it sounds like there's

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<v Speaker 5>a chance he won't play. But then the question is,

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<v Speaker 5>are we plugging in Darrell Rivas in his prime?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, that's the question. Who do we plug in, and

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<v Speaker 2>how does he play?

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<v Speaker 5>I think a lot of people believe, well, he can't

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<v Speaker 5>be any worse than a Caleb Evans, and that might

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<v Speaker 5>be right.

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<v Speaker 7>Can we just have a guy play average, just be average, something?

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<v Speaker 7>I'd like to see Corey Thornton get a chance. I just, again,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't know what's going on with him behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 7>I know he didn't have a great camp when we

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<v Speaker 7>were able to watch Bone. But, man, this dude has

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<v Speaker 7>been buried on that practice squad. We had Marco Wilson

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<v Speaker 7>on there, too, right? The guy that threw the shoe

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<v Speaker 7>for Florida? Canales has mentioned his name this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Can he throw a shoe at Christian Watson? Something, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Just stop the play. So let's see here.

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<v Speaker 5>The turnover, the way we've been with turnovers lately, Bone,

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<v Speaker 5>we were good for the Detroit game and the Philly game.

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<v Speaker 2>No turnovers.

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<v Speaker 5>But of course, we had four last week. The defensive

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<v Speaker 5>side of the ball, though, Bone, this is a problem.

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<v Speaker 5>We have not forced a turnover since the Browns game.

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<v Speaker 5>haven't forced a damn turnover since the Cleveland game. And

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<v Speaker 5>when you really break a down bone, outside of the

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<v Speaker 5>Atlanta game where we forced five turnovers, we've only forced

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<v Speaker 5>two turnovers in the other five games combined. we've got

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<v Speaker 5>to get back to forcing freaking. And I'm sure it

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't help that you don't have Horn and Mike Jack

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<v Speaker 5>in there. Because those two were ball hawks last year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and Mike Jack really was.

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<v Speaker 7>I know that Horn had a better year for that too,

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<v Speaker 7>but Mike Jack is really good at that stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Both those guys. So I think that's got to be

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<v Speaker 5>a factor there as well.

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<v Speaker 6>704-570-9610.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have the energy?

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<v Speaker 5>To contribute to the victory formula against the Packers, or

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<v Speaker 5>are you simply still too down and out and can't

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<v Speaker 5>go there?

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<v Speaker 2>See, this is the thing.

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<v Speaker 5>We're getting a few text, Bone, from people that are

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<v Speaker 5>just like, we ain't going to stop their run. They're

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<v Speaker 5>going to run for 150 yards when they haven't run

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<v Speaker 5>for more than 86 yards. And I get it. I

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<v Speaker 5>am completely aware, Bone, of how many times I've told

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<v Speaker 5>you this team does this bad, and they show up

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<v Speaker 5>against the Panthers, and they do.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that.

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<v Speaker 5>But I can't stress enough how good they have been

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<v Speaker 5>recently in these spots. After losses, after getting their ass beat,

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<v Speaker 5>I would be shocked if they lay an egg. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not saying they're guaranteed the win or anything, Bone, but

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<v Speaker 5>I would be shocked if they don't bounce back. We

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<v Speaker 5>often get the recency bias where all we can see

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<v Speaker 5>is the last game and it was a doozy of

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<v Speaker 5>a poop blaster, that game. It was just all, I mean, seriously,

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<v Speaker 5>filled up.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole bowl.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>All right. Hey, I flushed that hole, but I might

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<v Speaker 5>take two flushes. Get that game down.

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<v Speaker 7>That was Finney's nickname back in the day, Poop Blaster.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. I don't know where that phrase

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<v Speaker 2>came from. I'm uncomfortable with the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 7>I was going to make a point, and now it

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<v Speaker 7>just got blasted out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>We can bounce back, y'all. Someone points out.

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<v Speaker 7>They feel more comfortable right now, Detroit notwithstanding, in the

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<v Speaker 7>Cleveland game. They feel more comfortable with the Panthers on

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<v Speaker 7>the road right now than at home. The two bad

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<v Speaker 7>performances are both at home. Cleveland wasn't great, but I

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<v Speaker 7>don't know. For whatever reason, they feel better with the

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<v Speaker 7>Panthers on the road right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't blame you. In a weird way, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't blame you for that at all. We've not got

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<v Speaker 5>Molly whomped on the road yet. They get away from

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<v Speaker 5>all this media heat. This nasty Charlotte pressure from the

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<v Speaker 5>fans and the media.

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<v Speaker 2>They get away from Jeff Hawkins' questions. Oh, no. Hawk

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<v Speaker 2>got called out.

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<v Speaker 5>Panthero says, the recipe is Derrick Brown playing like Derrick

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<v Speaker 5>Brown from previous seasons. Another recipe, tell Bryce we're playing

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<v Speaker 5>in Atlanta. What do you think, Bone Man, about the offense?

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<v Speaker 5>The keys for the game on offense. The Packers are...

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<v Speaker 5>As you said, statistically better in some of these defensive categories.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got to give it to them. 11th in points

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<v Speaker 5>per game, 13th in yards per game. But if you

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<v Speaker 5>look at the advance numbers, 4th in EPA per play,

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<v Speaker 5>5th in EPA per rush, 10th EPA per rush, 5th

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<v Speaker 5>in EPA per pass.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I know it's... I mean, Lewis has to

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<v Speaker 7>be healthy. That's first and foremost on the offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we not win without Lewis?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't trust anybody else right now, so it's going

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<v Speaker 7>to be very, very difficult.

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<v Speaker 5>It would be probably Corey Bullock, or Canales mentioned, Curhan, too.

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<v Speaker 5>Curhan started the win last year in Lambeau. I will

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<v Speaker 5>point that out. Well, he's got good success there, then.

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<v Speaker 5>The good thing about... Listen, Damian Lewis is the most

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<v Speaker 5>important one on the injury report. There's no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you've got to run the football. Again, I

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<v Speaker 5>know this sounds like, Mac, you say that every week,

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<v Speaker 5>but I just feel like it's a game where... I

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<v Speaker 5>think you can run the football on him. We did

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<v Speaker 5>it last year, albeit with Rico. But I think Chuba's

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<v Speaker 5>playing damn good right now as well. We had an

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<v Speaker 5>efficient day running the football the other day, Bone. Problem

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<v Speaker 5>is we can only run it 18 times. We're getting

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<v Speaker 5>our rear ends kicked. Can Bryce have enough time? I

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<v Speaker 5>know that he's also not healthy, so it's a problem.

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<v Speaker 5>If Coker's out there, we got to get him going back.

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<v Speaker 5>He's been very hit or miss this year. He had

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<v Speaker 5>the 138.

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<v Speaker 7>Then 66 yards receiving, then 18, then 97, then nine.

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<v Speaker 7>We need them healthy first and foremost, but we don't

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<v Speaker 7>need them having games of 18 yards receiving and nine.

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<v Speaker 7>And I know that a lot goes into that, but

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<v Speaker 7>I need a consistent and a solid performance out of

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<v Speaker 7>Jalen Coker here.

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<v Speaker 5>It would definitely help. There's no doubt about it. It

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't all his fault the other day. You know what

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<v Speaker 5>I mean? The offensive line didn't get Bryce time. Bryce

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't at his best either. But, yeah, when you can

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<v Speaker 5>get Coker and T-Mac humming. Coker's not had a touchdown

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<v Speaker 5>since Chicago when he had two.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, he was injured a little bit, but still to

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<v Speaker 2>your point.

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<v Speaker 5>I just feel like it's a game you come out

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<v Speaker 5>for the first time this season and say we are

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<v Speaker 5>going to run the ball at you. We try to

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<v Speaker 5>set a freaking mindset from the start for the first time.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'd like to see them give that a go

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<v Speaker 5>and see if they can make that work. I will

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<v Speaker 5>say this about Bryce and time to pass. And again,

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<v Speaker 5>this is where you roll your eyes because last week,

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<v Speaker 5>I told you last week, Bone, that Tampa was 31st

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<v Speaker 5>in pressure percentage on defense. and 24th in sack percentage.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'll be damned if they didn't look like the

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<v Speaker 5>New York Sack Exchange out there. So some of this stuff,

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<v Speaker 5>it doesn't ring true, right? But Green Bay, 19th in

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<v Speaker 5>sack percentage. There'll be no Micah Parsons in this game.

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<v Speaker 5>Pressure percentage is 22nd. They don't have a star edge.

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<v Speaker 5>And on the interior, they have no one with more

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<v Speaker 5>than seven pressures on the interior. So could it be

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<v Speaker 5>a game where we in the trenches– actually can hold

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<v Speaker 5>up on both sides of the ball i don't know

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<v Speaker 5>who knows what to expect from this jekyll and hyde team.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm feeling a very close game tomorrow night i would

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<v Speaker 7>agree i think the teams are are even in a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of ways now thursday matt can throw uh could

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<v Speaker 7>throw uh i'm looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>A term here i'm trying to think of what i'm

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<v Speaker 2>looking for here.

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<v Speaker 7>That uh thursdays can throw um uh i don't know

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<v Speaker 7>something with the with the wrench and the monkey and

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<v Speaker 7>uh in the something i'll try to think i'm trying

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<v Speaker 7>to think of something like uh i don't know screw it.

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<v Speaker 5>Throw a wrench into the plans or something like that

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<v Speaker 5>yeah i was gonna say throw a monkey wrench into

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<v Speaker 5>the plans are you a fan of when bone uh

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<v Speaker 5>struggles with simple sayings like i got just punch.

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<v Speaker 7>No i got just gives it i got no help

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<v Speaker 7>here i tried to lead you guys i.

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<v Speaker 5>Thought you were talking about like Throwing screen passes? Thursdays

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<v Speaker 5>can be unpredictable. Thursday night games on any front can

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<v Speaker 5>be unpredictable. We have no idea what may happen. Look

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<v Speaker 5>at Tampa-Dallas a couple weeks ago. We thought Tampa Bay

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<v Speaker 5>had no shot in that game, and they go out

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<v Speaker 5>there and they run Dallas off the field.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not even going to say what happened on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 7>but there's a lot of unpredictability in these games. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>so annoyed by me throwing myself out there, giving you

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<v Speaker 7>guys the opportunity to finish what I'm trying to say,

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<v Speaker 7>and no one helps me.

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<v Speaker 3>Bones like a horse, Mac. You can lead him to

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<v Speaker 3>the water, but you can't make.

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<v Speaker 2>Him drink it. I mean, the finishing there of Bone,

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<v Speaker 2>it was hard to watch.

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<v Speaker 7>The look on your face was, there's no one cheering

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<v Speaker 7>me on here.

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<v Speaker 2>You're rooting for me to fail it. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I meant. They throw a wrench into the.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought you were talking about something in passing. You

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<v Speaker 5>let me out to dry for a long time on

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<v Speaker 5>that one. You had lost me. Oh, my goodness. Dan

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<v Speaker 5>Orlovsky also didn't know how to complete that saying as well, Boney.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out here. I needed a life jacket. I'm drowning.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's face it. Your point about Thursday is true, but

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<v Speaker 5>NFL in general, it doesn't matter what day. And they

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<v Speaker 5>play games on a lot of days in the NFL nowadays.

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<v Speaker 5>Any game, something crazy. Who the hell saw what happened

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<v Speaker 5>last week coming? But I'm telling you, man, the Panthers,

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<v Speaker 5>like the woman in the dentist office told me yesterday,

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<v Speaker 5>when the Panthers, when you expect the Panthers to do well,

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<v Speaker 5>they don't. And when you don't expect them to do well,

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<v Speaker 5>they do. And I would think today, this week is

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<v Speaker 5>one of the latter type games. Have not played a

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<v Speaker 5>Thursday night game bone in three years.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been since. It's been since Bryce's rookie season.

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<v Speaker 5>This texter says, move the game from primetime if you

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<v Speaker 5>want to have a chance of winning.

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<v Speaker 3>We're 1-0 in primetime, dumbass.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, beat the Lions in primetime. That got aggressive, Fit. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, just send in better text.

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<v Speaker 2>Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

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<v Speaker 7>Finney just threw a wrench into that texter's plans. You

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<v Speaker 7>mentioned the woman in the dentist's office, what she said.

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<v Speaker 7>What did the lady say to you on the way

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<v Speaker 7>to the dentist's office, the lady driving in?

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<v Speaker 5>She flipped me to Dan Byrd. I tried to cut

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<v Speaker 5>her off. She flipped me to Byrd, just rolled right

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<v Speaker 5>past me.

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<v Speaker 2>Where were you at? He went straight Kyle Larson down

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<v Speaker 2>the road. Trade Street and Matthews?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Matthews is a tricky place to drive.

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<v Speaker 5>It's Trade Street where you're going like away from Matthews,

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<v Speaker 5>downtown Matthews, and where you get to a stoplight.

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<v Speaker 2>I forget which one it was.

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<v Speaker 5>And the right lane I got in and didn't realize, oh, crap,

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<v Speaker 5>this is a right turn lane only.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't stay straight.

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<v Speaker 5>And I tried to do the thing where you're like,

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of slide over and cut somebody off, and

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<v Speaker 5>she wasn't having it. She was like, damn, Dale Earnhardt

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<v Speaker 5>into Black 3, bro. She was just like, nope, you're

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<v Speaker 5>not getting in here, and I'm going to flip you

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<v Speaker 5>the bird. All the while, my 13-year-old daughter is watching

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<v Speaker 5>this occur. She seemed to enjoy it, though. I feel

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<v Speaker 5>like she likes when people.

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<v Speaker 2>Are mean to me. They like your demise.

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<v Speaker 7>When we come back, Tim Donnelly of 99.9 The Fan

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<v Speaker 7>and Raleigh. He's going to talk about what happened with

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<v Speaker 7>Dave Doran. Where do the pack go next? The Heels, Duke,

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<v Speaker 7>and more. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, quick little message to our fine, amazing listeners

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<v Speaker 5>out there. We got people requesting, hey, man, I need

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit of hoops talk.

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<v Speaker 2>We got a little hoop scoop for you.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to talk about the Tar Heels barely beating

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<v Speaker 5>Charlotte in an exhibition last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Niner fans should be excited.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to talk a little Hornets, but we've got

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<v Speaker 5>plenty of college football the rest of the way. Going

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<v Speaker 5>to focus on NC State and Dave Doran's presser yesterday,

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<v Speaker 5>the Dave Doran era, but certainly the coaching search. But

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<v Speaker 5>listen to the podcast. Go in after the show, listen

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<v Speaker 5>to the podcast, and then you can find the different

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<v Speaker 5>subjects you would like to hear about wherever you get

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<v Speaker 5>your podcast. WFNZ.com, Apple, Spotify. Listen at your leisure as

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<v Speaker 5>your day goes on on the Mac and Bone Show.

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<v Speaker 5>Right now, Bowen, we've got to focus on NC State.

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<v Speaker 5>We've got to talk about this Wolfpack coaching search. We've

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<v Speaker 5>got to put an end, put a bow on the

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<v Speaker 5>Dave Doran era, which he did yesterday with a press conference.

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<v Speaker 5>Tim Donnelly is the host of The Drive on 99.9

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<v Speaker 5>The Fan in Raleigh. We call that station here on

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<v Speaker 5>our show, Bone, 99.9 The Gold.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>Adam Gold has paid us to refer to that station

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<v Speaker 5>that way. But Tim Donnelly, very good in the afternoon

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<v Speaker 5>as well, and he joins us. Tim, what's going on, man?

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing well. You know, I wish I could come

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<v Speaker 1>on and talk about the things Adam talks with you

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<v Speaker 1>guys about because the Canes are much more fun than

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<v Speaker 1>talking football right now.

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<v Speaker 2>That's everybody. Yeah, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>You didn't get the Canes assignment. I'm sorry to mention that.

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<v Speaker 7>There's a big Adam Gold club on the text line

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<v Speaker 7>every Tuesday. Now I say club because it could vary

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<v Speaker 7>from fan club to get this guy off the radio club.

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<v Speaker 2>That is true. Depending on the day of the week. there, Tim.

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<v Speaker 2>Could go either way.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's talk about Dave Doran and the presser yesterday and

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<v Speaker 5>just his era. I just think that's such a classy way, Tim,

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<v Speaker 5>to end his era. We compared it to Ron Rivera.

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<v Speaker 5>Ron Rivera wanted to do a presser after being fired.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so rare that coaches do that. And I just

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<v Speaker 5>think he deserves credit for that. And I think he

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<v Speaker 5>deserves credit for his run. But also, I understand why

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<v Speaker 5>State fans are like, hey, I'm glad we're trying something different.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, how do you feel about all that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, without excusing any of the, you know, pitfalls that

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<v Speaker 1>he fell into later in his tenure with State. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're exactly right. I think he tries to do

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<v Speaker 1>things the right way. I think he was hired to

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<v Speaker 1>win in a college football that doesn't exist anymore. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the skill set that, you know, made him

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<v Speaker 1>the right candidate when they moved on from Tom O'Brien

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<v Speaker 1>so many years ago probably also is why it's the

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<v Speaker 1>right time to move on from him now. But I

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<v Speaker 1>second you with what you said about Ron Rivera. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I think these, like, traditional football guys, you feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to be mean or they're going to light

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<v Speaker 1>the world on fire when they leave because they're so intense.

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<v Speaker 1>But really, they're just good dudes and they just, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fit in in a locker room. So I think Dave

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<v Speaker 1>Dorn went out exactly how he coached, which is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of no nonsense, but classy at the same time.

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<v Speaker 7>Tim, it's kind of a two-fold question here about Dorn

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<v Speaker 7>and this season. How surprised are you from where we

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<v Speaker 7>thought this team was in the preseason that it got

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<v Speaker 7>to this point of a firing, and where did it

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<v Speaker 7>most go wrong to get here?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm unbelievably surprised, and I think there's enough receipts out

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<v Speaker 1>there of me talking about how hyped I was for

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<v Speaker 1>this NC State team. I can't say it any other way.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think we're all still learning where to

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<v Speaker 1>spend your money in college football. You know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the NFL kind of model, a gigantic part

0:21:45.180 --> 0:21:48.159
<v Speaker 1>of the salary cap goes to the quarterback. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that may be where it went wrong. And I

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<v Speaker 1>like C.J.

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<v Speaker 2>Bailey.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a really, really good quarterback. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the opportunity cost. Do you spend gigantic for

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback? And that may come at the cost of

0:21:59.350 --> 0:22:01.630
<v Speaker 1>your left tackle and your running back and your receiver

0:22:01.690 --> 0:22:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and your defensive player. Or do you kind of reverse

0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:07.359
<v Speaker 1>it and maybe go with a more Wake Forest strategy,

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<v Speaker 1>which is you shop the bargain basement for the quarterback

0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:12.660
<v Speaker 1>and perhaps have a little bit more for the rest

0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:16.510
<v Speaker 1>of your roster? I think they may have spent their

0:22:16.550 --> 0:22:19.890
<v Speaker 1>money in maybe the wrong place without knocking C.J. Bailey

0:22:19.930 --> 0:22:22.630
<v Speaker 1>too much. It's a really tough world if you aren't

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<v Speaker 1>one of the big, big spenders in college football.

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<v Speaker 5>It is, no doubt about it. We're talking with Tim

0:22:27.210 --> 0:22:31.560
<v Speaker 5>Donnelly from 99.9, the fan in Raleigh, talking about the Wolfpack.

0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:36.439
<v Speaker 5>football situation. Moving on from Dave Doran. Now, I want

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<v Speaker 5>to ask this question kind of twofold, Tim. I want

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<v Speaker 5>to ask how you feel about Phillip Rivers' mania, and

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<v Speaker 5>I want to know how are the state fans that

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<v Speaker 5>are in your listenership feeling? Is this an idea that

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<v Speaker 5>you and the state fans are getting behind?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in on Phillip Rivers, and for the simple reason

0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:04.340
<v Speaker 1>of In college football now, if it's a quote-unquote bad hire,

0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:08.060
<v Speaker 1>and I admit Phillip Rivers is a risk, it doesn't

0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:10.100
<v Speaker 1>set you back as long as it used to. You

0:23:10.140 --> 0:23:13.100
<v Speaker 1>can reset your roster in a year. We're seeing it

0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:16.139
<v Speaker 1>with NC State basketball. They hire Will Wade. It goes horrendous.

0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:18.379
<v Speaker 1>They're on to the next coach the next year with

0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:21.700
<v Speaker 1>a completely different roster. So give Phillip Rivers the chance.

0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:25.380
<v Speaker 1>He'll fundraise as well as anybody ever has for that program,

0:23:25.460 --> 0:23:26.740
<v Speaker 1>and he won't even have to work that hard to

0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:29.140
<v Speaker 1>do it just because people will almost– you know, bend

0:23:29.180 --> 0:23:31.699
<v Speaker 1>over backwards to be in his orbit based on, on

0:23:31.740 --> 0:23:34.800
<v Speaker 1>what he means to them as a player. I will

0:23:34.840 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 1>say it's more polarizing in the fan base. I, you know,

0:23:38.580 --> 0:23:40.869
<v Speaker 1>just sent out a tweet saying, you know, before I

0:23:40.900 --> 0:23:43.909
<v Speaker 1>hire any run of the mill offensive coordinator from a

0:23:43.930 --> 0:23:47.669
<v Speaker 1>CFP team or a group of six, you know, hot coach,

0:23:48.130 --> 0:23:50.410
<v Speaker 1>I would make Phillip Rivers say no to me three

0:23:50.450 --> 0:23:53.129
<v Speaker 1>times if I were NC state. And the response is

0:23:53.210 --> 0:23:57.620
<v Speaker 1>either yay Phillip or it's, Why in the world would

0:23:57.650 --> 0:23:58.180
<v Speaker 1>you do this?

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<v Speaker 2>It invokes the low hire.

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:04.500
<v Speaker 1>There's no experience. You need someone that knows what they're doing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

0:24:04.820 --> 0:24:07.940
<v Speaker 1>So I wouldn't say there's many people that are lukewarm

0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.359
<v Speaker 1>on a Phillip Rivers hire. Everybody is either all the

0:24:10.400 --> 0:24:11.980
<v Speaker 1>way in or all the way out. I'm in the

0:24:12.119 --> 0:24:13.300
<v Speaker 1>kind of all the way in category.

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<v Speaker 7>If it's not Rivers, what's another name or two that

0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:20.410
<v Speaker 7>intrigues you the most of the names that we hear

0:24:20.950 --> 0:24:21.710
<v Speaker 7>attached to the job?

0:24:23.460 --> 0:24:25.500
<v Speaker 1>If you're going to go the coordinator route, you know,

0:24:25.540 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a familiar name, but it's the younger generation. Mike Shanahan,

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:33.220
<v Speaker 1>the offensive coordinator from Indiana, has been mentioned. Buster Faulkner,

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.310
<v Speaker 1>the offensive coordinator from Florida, has been mentioned. He was

0:24:35.369 --> 0:24:39.410
<v Speaker 1>at Georgia Tech previously. And then, you know, the same

0:24:39.450 --> 0:24:44.629
<v Speaker 1>old names, the Dan Mullins, the Billy Napiers, the Jamie Chadwells.

0:24:45.210 --> 0:24:48.209
<v Speaker 1>These guys that have maybe had opportunities at bigger schools

0:24:48.270 --> 0:24:50.450
<v Speaker 1>and then come back down and kind of rebuilt themselves

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:52.720
<v Speaker 1>at the group of six level. I tend to go

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 1>more coordinator than retread head coach. So, you know, I

0:24:56.040 --> 0:24:58.690
<v Speaker 1>like what Buster did at Georgia Tech. That one might

0:24:58.790 --> 0:25:01.130
<v Speaker 1>fit if you're looking for somebody outside the NC State tree.

0:25:02.140 --> 0:25:04.379
<v Speaker 2>He's a very interesting name, man. No doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 5>What he did with Haynes King, what he's doing at Florida,

0:25:07.800 --> 0:25:09.340
<v Speaker 5>you can't, you cannot deny it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 5>Let me ask you this real quick before we let

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:15.109
<v Speaker 5>you go on the basketball side, because we're getting ready

0:25:15.550 --> 0:25:17.550
<v Speaker 5>to do a hoop segment. So let me start it

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<v Speaker 5>now on the NC State side. What is your feeling

0:25:21.890 --> 0:25:24.930
<v Speaker 5>about the Justin Ganey era in the short term, like

0:25:24.990 --> 0:25:27.629
<v Speaker 5>this season, but also the bigger picture?

0:25:29.480 --> 0:25:32.260
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it's a direct reaction to Will Wade.

0:25:32.280 --> 0:25:34.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, I already brought it up. They went outside

0:25:34.340 --> 0:25:36.500
<v Speaker 1>the family for the hire. It didn't work. And Justin

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Ganey is inside the NC State family, played there, assistant, GA.

0:25:41.619 --> 0:25:45.180
<v Speaker 1>He understands. The question is really going to come down

0:25:45.220 --> 0:25:47.570
<v Speaker 1>to Paul McNeil Jr., a player that they worked very

0:25:47.609 --> 0:25:49.709
<v Speaker 1>hard to retain from last year's contract, who can get

0:25:49.750 --> 0:25:52.650
<v Speaker 1>as hot shooting the basketball as anybody. He had a

0:25:52.670 --> 0:25:55.750
<v Speaker 1>47-point game last year. So if he can grow into

0:25:55.810 --> 0:26:00.130
<v Speaker 1>a consistent, every game, number one scorer, Justin Ganey comes

0:26:00.190 --> 0:26:03.770
<v Speaker 1>in with a defensive background from his time as an assistant,

0:26:03.810 --> 0:26:06.649
<v Speaker 1>most recently at Tennessee. I think they'll be solid defensively.

0:26:07.030 --> 0:26:08.859
<v Speaker 1>The offensive side that worries me a little bit, if

0:26:08.890 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Paul McNeil can make that work, then I think they

0:26:12.060 --> 0:26:15.399
<v Speaker 1>could surprise some people. Long term, I really like Justin Ganey.

0:26:15.820 --> 0:26:18.119
<v Speaker 1>I've talked to him a few times. He seems to

0:26:18.200 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 1>get it. He understands. And most importantly, I think he

0:26:21.140 --> 0:26:23.810
<v Speaker 1>has an identity. Right. In college basketball, you need to,

0:26:23.890 --> 0:26:26.470
<v Speaker 1>you know, and this is college football, too. You look

0:26:26.490 --> 0:26:28.450
<v Speaker 1>at the portal, you look at high school, there's thousands

0:26:28.490 --> 0:26:30.790
<v Speaker 1>of names. You need to have an identity so you

0:26:30.830 --> 0:26:34.050
<v Speaker 1>can limit that to like 200 to evaluate and really

0:26:34.090 --> 0:26:37.030
<v Speaker 1>get to know who you should bring in. His defensive identity,

0:26:37.050 --> 0:26:39.250
<v Speaker 1>I think, can serve them long term. And then his

0:26:39.570 --> 0:26:41.210
<v Speaker 1>love for NC State will go a long way as well.

0:26:41.810 --> 0:26:45.080
<v Speaker 7>The field of 68 yesterday had a discussion. This is

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:49.100
<v Speaker 7>before the Heels exhibition game against Charlotte. Could the Heels

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:52.500
<v Speaker 7>miss the NCAA tournament? I thought that was a little ridiculous.

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:55.580
<v Speaker 7>Then you watched the game. Then I watched the game.

0:26:55.619 --> 0:26:58.479
<v Speaker 7>I don't think it's true, but how worrisome is this

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<v Speaker 7>year one for Michael Malone and really the depth of

0:27:01.790 --> 0:27:03.409
<v Speaker 7>this team, this Heels team, being a problem?

0:27:05.170 --> 0:27:07.730
<v Speaker 1>I'm not worried about it. I think Michael Malone has

0:27:07.750 --> 0:27:09.750
<v Speaker 1>some real learning curves, but I think he's a guy

0:27:09.770 --> 0:27:13.760
<v Speaker 1>that will learn it quickly. Perfect example, the game against Charlotte, right?

0:27:13.780 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 1>He said in one of the early press conferences, timeouts,

0:27:17.500 --> 0:27:20.560
<v Speaker 1>he was telling his guys, like, relax, breathe, you know,

0:27:20.580 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>let's get going. They look like the Keystone Cops. And,

0:27:24.420 --> 0:27:29.090
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a difference between motivating a 27-year-old or

0:27:29.109 --> 0:27:31.859
<v Speaker 1>30-year-old pro, right? Those guys motivate themselves. They show up,

0:27:31.890 --> 0:27:34.149
<v Speaker 1>they know what they're doing. Sometimes you've got to get

0:27:34.190 --> 0:27:36.490
<v Speaker 1>a 20-year-old, you know, out of bed. You know what

0:27:36.510 --> 0:27:38.290
<v Speaker 1>I mean? Sometimes you've got to wake those guys up

0:27:38.750 --> 0:27:44.100
<v Speaker 1>and he'll learn. So there's there's learning curves for Michael Malone.

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:45.730
<v Speaker 1>So early on, I think there's going to be some

0:27:45.970 --> 0:27:47.710
<v Speaker 1>some ugly ones. And you might you might say that

0:27:47.730 --> 0:27:50.370
<v Speaker 1>Charlotte game or exhibition game was one of them. But

0:27:50.910 --> 0:27:53.450
<v Speaker 1>I'm a big Dallas fan coming over on the transfer

0:27:53.470 --> 0:27:56.340
<v Speaker 1>portal from from Virginia Tech. I think Terrence Brown is

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:57.820
<v Speaker 1>going to be able to fill it up. They have

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:00.920
<v Speaker 1>some guys that I think just the talent level will

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:02.140
<v Speaker 1>rise to the occasion eventually.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, man. Hey, good to talk to you, Tim.

0:28:04.380 --> 0:28:07.020
<v Speaker 5>We're sorry that you do not get in on the

0:28:07.080 --> 0:28:10.199
<v Speaker 5>Canes talk fun that Adam Gold does with us. But

0:28:10.220 --> 0:28:12.119
<v Speaker 5>the Canes won, and they got the most points in

0:28:12.140 --> 0:28:14.740
<v Speaker 5>the damn league. Of course they do. Tim, keep up

0:28:14.770 --> 0:28:16.260
<v Speaker 5>the good work, man. Thanks for coming on.

0:28:17.630 --> 0:28:20.449
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. And, yeah, there's misery loves company all

0:28:20.470 --> 0:28:22.450
<v Speaker 1>across the football world. So, you know, you guys keep

0:28:22.490 --> 0:28:23.570
<v Speaker 1>doing your thing with the Panthers.

0:28:23.910 --> 0:28:25.510
<v Speaker 2>And we're trying. All right, brother.

0:28:25.530 --> 0:28:29.450
<v Speaker 5>All right, be good. There you go. That is Tim Donnelly, 99.9,

0:28:29.430 --> 0:28:32.350
<v Speaker 5>the fan in Raleigh. All right, James from Maiden. And

0:28:32.369 --> 0:28:35.710
<v Speaker 5>we're getting ready to talk about the worries that Heels

0:28:35.750 --> 0:28:38.250
<v Speaker 5>fans might have after last night, but the excitement Charlotte

0:28:38.270 --> 0:28:40.850
<v Speaker 5>fans might have after last night. But real quick, James

0:28:40.890 --> 0:28:44.050
<v Speaker 5>from Maiden is texting about Duke, and he's all over UNC.

0:28:44.530 --> 0:28:48.860
<v Speaker 5>He says to me, Duke's second team. would, uh, would

0:28:48.890 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 5>beat UNC starters. And I said, you might be true

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:56.420
<v Speaker 5>about that. And he is incredulous. He says, you, you

0:28:56.480 --> 0:29:00.540
<v Speaker 5>say might, is that an overstatement? I mean, Carolina's got

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:04.420
<v Speaker 5>three really good starting guards, but then again, Rippy and

0:29:05.420 --> 0:29:08.060
<v Speaker 5>I mean, Boozer might be backups, right?

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.600
<v Speaker 7>Foster might be a backup. We haven't even seen the

0:29:10.660 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 7>Belmont transfer. That's a menace on the glass yet. Sharknado there.

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:18.830
<v Speaker 7>He has been out all preseason. I mean, Cam Williams,

0:29:19.450 --> 0:29:21.250
<v Speaker 7>Bryson Howard, Bryson Howard.

0:29:21.550 --> 0:29:22.450
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Wilkins.

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:28.180
<v Speaker 7>I would say no, but it would be a really

0:29:28.220 --> 0:29:30.630
<v Speaker 7>competitive ball. And then, of course, Duke could just always

0:29:30.670 --> 0:29:32.170
<v Speaker 7>go ahead and put someone else on the second unit

0:29:32.190 --> 0:29:32.850
<v Speaker 7>there and win the game.

0:29:32.870 --> 0:29:37.770
<v Speaker 2>Boomshack, Boomshack can go ahead and bench for a game. Finney,

0:29:37.830 --> 0:29:38.630
<v Speaker 2>does that annoy you?

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:41.979
<v Speaker 5>That James is flapping his gums saying our second unit

0:29:42.000 --> 0:29:42.900
<v Speaker 5>would beat your starters?

0:29:43.060 --> 0:29:44.180
<v Speaker 2>Is that BS?

0:29:44.300 --> 0:29:47.459
<v Speaker 3>It's typical James from Maiden texting.

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<v Speaker 6>But, I mean, look, when you beat a top 10

0:29:50.180 --> 0:29:54.260
<v Speaker 6>team by 40, you go to Allen Fieldhouse and you

0:29:54.520 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 6>beat Kansas?

0:29:56.820 --> 0:29:58.150
<v Speaker 3>I'd be pretty confident.

0:29:58.350 --> 0:30:00.210
<v Speaker 2>They're freaking loaded. They are good, man.

0:30:01.750 --> 0:30:02.570
<v Speaker 3>I'm a little worried.

0:30:03.150 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 6>I'm a little stressed about the way my team has looked.

0:30:07.820 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 6>I think that we're still in a better spot with

0:30:09.940 --> 0:30:14.000
<v Speaker 6>who our guy is on the sidelines as opposed to Hubert. Also, congrats, Hubert,

0:30:14.020 --> 0:30:16.770
<v Speaker 6>back on television. Wonder what else to say whenever he

0:30:16.810 --> 0:30:17.970
<v Speaker 6>has to talk about Carolina.

0:30:19.780 --> 0:30:21.290
<v Speaker 2>Malone will coach, man. Malone will coach.

0:30:21.310 --> 0:30:23.770
<v Speaker 5>He'll roll up the sleeves. It is an adjustment to

0:30:23.830 --> 0:30:27.550
<v Speaker 5>coaching the whippersnappers, right? And not the pros. But he's

0:30:27.570 --> 0:30:28.090
<v Speaker 5>going to coach.

0:30:28.750 --> 0:30:32.230
<v Speaker 3>Mac, I really worry about his temper with these young men.

0:30:32.250 --> 0:30:35.390
<v Speaker 6>He's talking about having to adjust the talent from college

0:30:35.410 --> 0:30:36.100
<v Speaker 6>to the pro level.

0:30:37.570 --> 0:30:38.330
<v Speaker 3>His patience.

0:30:38.370 --> 0:30:39.990
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's going to be tested.

0:30:40.450 --> 0:30:41.890
<v Speaker 3>He needs a Xanax, man.

0:30:42.010 --> 0:30:42.790
<v Speaker 2>He sat down on the bench.

0:30:42.810 --> 0:30:45.130
<v Speaker 7>He called a demonstrative timeout earlier last night where you

0:30:45.150 --> 0:30:48.260
<v Speaker 7>could tell that he was stomping off the court.

0:30:48.300 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 5>And when we come back, it's the clip that Tim

0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.700
<v Speaker 5>talked about. Wait to hear what he said about addressing

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:55.860
<v Speaker 5>the guys and the way they started the game and

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:56.959
<v Speaker 5>addressing them in the timeout.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a big difference between Hubert's mentality and Michael Malone's intensity.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I like this better.

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:04.070
<v Speaker 5>Better i'm not gonna lie i think i think i

0:31:04.110 --> 0:31:06.790
<v Speaker 5>like an intense coach better what the fart.

0:31:06.750 --> 0:31:09.490
<v Speaker 7>Long term it'll be it'll be great yeah but like

0:31:09.510 --> 0:31:11.630
<v Speaker 7>the the adjustment period might be a little bit of

0:31:11.790 --> 0:31:14.270
<v Speaker 7>a uh well it might be an adjustment period as

0:31:14.310 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 7>i just said we come back we're gonna talk hoops

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 7>as matt just said we're calling this segment hoop scoop

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 7>unc needs overtime to beat charlotte bill simmons still a

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:30.510
<v Speaker 7>hornets believer and an all-time charlotte sports legend finally honored

0:31:30.890 --> 0:31:34.230
<v Speaker 7>like he should. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.

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<v Speaker 2>They got whiskey, women, music, and smoke.

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>It's where all.

0:31:41.060 --> 0:31:44.820
<v Speaker 7>The cowboy folk go to boot scoot boogie.

0:31:47.800 --> 0:31:49.020
<v Speaker 2>I got a good job.

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 1>I work hard for my money.

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:55.219
<v Speaker 2>When it's quitting time, I kick the door running. I

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 2>fire up my pickup truck.

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<v Speaker 5>This goes out to John the Beer Man who says,

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<v Speaker 5>your segment should be the Hoop Scoop Boogie. And we've

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:07.480
<v Speaker 5>definitely done this before. And you know what, John? Because

0:32:07.540 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 5>of you, we played the song. It's a time for

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 5>a little Hoop Scoop Boogie, baby, on the Mac and

0:32:13.940 --> 0:32:14.610
<v Speaker 5>Bone Show.

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<v Speaker 7>This is really.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, this is changing the game here. Just Hoop Scoop

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:20.220
<v Speaker 2>was like, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Hoop Scoop Boogie, now there's a lot of pressure on

0:32:22.700 --> 0:32:27.690
<v Speaker 5>us to Hoop Scoop and Boogie. Charlotte fans, are you

0:32:28.190 --> 0:32:32.990
<v Speaker 5>excited after last night and pushing the heels? 49ers!

0:32:33.450 --> 0:32:36.630
<v Speaker 2>If you don't have a Chris Webber moment....

0:32:37.660 --> 0:32:39.860
<v Speaker 5>Trying to inbounds the ball with a one-point lead under

0:32:39.860 --> 0:32:42.220
<v Speaker 5>20 seconds to go. You very well might have upset

0:32:42.260 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 5>the heels. Wes Miller, someone just texted him out the

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.260
<v Speaker 5>talent and athletes that he has added. You can see it,

0:32:48.300 --> 0:32:51.540
<v Speaker 5>the length, the athleticism bone, but you also see the

0:32:51.620 --> 0:32:56.330
<v Speaker 5>skill level in that backcourt. Tillery and Harris. Like you

0:32:56.350 --> 0:33:00.350
<v Speaker 5>could see those guys, my man, sinister Finister. Like I just,

0:33:00.470 --> 0:33:02.930
<v Speaker 5>the heels conversation is one. If he said he was

0:33:02.990 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 5>all disgusted watching it, I don't blame him. Oh, we

0:33:05.540 --> 0:33:07.100
<v Speaker 5>forgot to play the Mike Malone cut. We were so

0:33:07.140 --> 0:33:10.170
<v Speaker 5>excited about the hoop scoop boogie. We forgot to play

0:33:10.210 --> 0:33:10.730
<v Speaker 5>Mike Malone.

0:33:11.490 --> 0:33:12.310
<v Speaker 2>Michael Malone.

0:33:12.790 --> 0:33:19.020
<v Speaker 5>Charlotte fans should be fired up. And I am fired up.

0:33:19.180 --> 0:33:21.100
<v Speaker 5>I want y'all to have a team.

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:24.340
<v Speaker 7>It's an exhibition game, but that meant everything to Charlotte fans.

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:28.580
<v Speaker 7>They've been craving for two plus decades a team that

0:33:28.620 --> 0:33:31.940
<v Speaker 7>can be competitive throughout an entire season. And I think

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:35.180
<v Speaker 7>they have that this year. One of their best and most,

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:36.719
<v Speaker 7>I don't want to say hyped up team, but the

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:39.310
<v Speaker 7>team that gives them the most hope in a very,

0:33:39.350 --> 0:33:40.010
<v Speaker 7>very long time.

0:33:40.030 --> 0:33:41.550
<v Speaker 5>I think it's real. I think I know it's an

0:33:41.590 --> 0:33:43.630
<v Speaker 5>exhibition game. This dude said, I'm a Charlotte fan. I'm

0:33:43.650 --> 0:33:46.250
<v Speaker 5>trying not to get too excited. It was an exhibition.

0:33:46.650 --> 0:33:49.150
<v Speaker 5>Y'all jumped up on him by 15 points. Carolina didn't

0:33:49.170 --> 0:33:51.290
<v Speaker 5>know what hit him. They were not ready for that

0:33:51.350 --> 0:33:54.790
<v Speaker 5>smoke early on. And Charlotte came out and was ready

0:33:54.830 --> 0:33:57.310
<v Speaker 5>to get after it, man. And they got after on

0:33:57.330 --> 0:34:01.020
<v Speaker 5>the offensive boards. And that's a Carolina weakness. They went

0:34:01.060 --> 0:34:03.900
<v Speaker 5>after got 12 offensive boards for 18 second half points.

0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:06.940
<v Speaker 5>And they've got players. You look at a kid like

0:34:07.060 --> 0:34:08.259
<v Speaker 5>you look at some of the kids that have come

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:11.819
<v Speaker 5>from Cincinnati. Kid like Tillery. He's going to be able

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:13.739
<v Speaker 5>to he's going to be a baller in the American

0:34:13.780 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 5>man coming from the Big 12.

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:34:16.700 --> 0:34:19.460
<v Speaker 7>Only averaged three points per game at Cincinnati, and it

0:34:19.620 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 7>is interesting that he only had that, but he is

0:34:22.330 --> 0:34:25.529
<v Speaker 7>just a sophomore. But they could have had Jizzle James also, Mac,

0:34:25.590 --> 0:34:27.989
<v Speaker 7>into this equation as well until he got kicked off

0:34:28.010 --> 0:34:31.980
<v Speaker 7>the team. But there's a lot more talent And even

0:34:32.020 --> 0:34:34.620
<v Speaker 7>with Aaron Fern, who we liked, they played a certain

0:34:34.700 --> 0:34:37.700
<v Speaker 7>style that was kind of like not the most exciting

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:38.610
<v Speaker 7>brand of basketball.

0:34:39.010 --> 0:34:40.670
<v Speaker 5>I think this team is going to be very fun

0:34:40.690 --> 0:34:42.170
<v Speaker 5>to watch. They can get up and down the floor.

0:34:42.210 --> 0:34:44.969
<v Speaker 5>They didn't shoot the three well in overtime. The Tar

0:34:44.989 --> 0:34:47.719
<v Speaker 5>Heels really got up on the shooters. But there is

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:50.180
<v Speaker 5>potential for this team to get up and down the floor.

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.220
<v Speaker 5>They lost by 20 in their previous exhibition game to Georgia.

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:54.850
<v Speaker 2>Last week.

0:34:55.150 --> 0:34:57.029
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so I don't know what that says about... What

0:34:57.050 --> 0:34:59.690
<v Speaker 7>does that say about the Heels? Yeah, I don't know.

0:35:00.070 --> 0:35:02.250
<v Speaker 2>Let's play... Although Georgia's an improving team, too, the last

0:35:02.270 --> 0:35:02.529
<v Speaker 2>couple years.

0:35:02.550 --> 0:35:06.090
<v Speaker 5>Let's play this clip from Michael, don't call me Mike Malone,

0:35:06.230 --> 0:35:11.700
<v Speaker 5>right now, and his reaction to yet another slow start

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:13.279
<v Speaker 5>by the Heels in an exhibition.

0:35:14.180 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 8>Our guys looked a little nervous, a little shook out there.

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 8>I mean, there were some plays in that first half

0:35:18.780 --> 0:35:21.660
<v Speaker 8>that looked like the Keystone Cops. I mean, we couldn't dribble,

0:35:21.739 --> 0:35:25.190
<v Speaker 8>we couldn't pass, we couldn't shoot. And I told him

0:35:25.230 --> 0:35:26.830
<v Speaker 8>early in one of the huddles, I said, man, I

0:35:26.830 --> 0:35:29.730
<v Speaker 8>have to take a deep breath, relax. These guys work

0:35:29.750 --> 0:35:32.190
<v Speaker 8>so hard. I mean, we've had really good practices. And

0:35:32.210 --> 0:35:35.109
<v Speaker 8>then they get into these game situations for the first

0:35:35.150 --> 0:35:38.089
<v Speaker 8>time in front of a home crowd. And I thought

0:35:38.110 --> 0:35:42.360
<v Speaker 8>they were just kind of very excited. And we just

0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:44.779
<v Speaker 8>need to kind of, because I challenged them, you know,

0:35:44.820 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 8>we still have not won a first half. We're 0

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 8>for 3 in the first half. We lost to Indiana.

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:53.590
<v Speaker 8>We lost to USC. We lost to Charlotte. And the

0:35:53.650 --> 0:35:55.650
<v Speaker 8>fact that we were only down three at halftime was

0:35:55.710 --> 0:35:58.129
<v Speaker 8>a miracle because we played around 15 minutes of really

0:35:58.190 --> 0:36:01.830
<v Speaker 8>bad basketball. We closed the half. And I like the

0:36:01.890 --> 0:36:04.049
<v Speaker 8>fact that we just stayed with it. We stayed with it.

0:36:04.070 --> 0:36:06.870
<v Speaker 8>We found our way. But, yeah, lots to clean up.

0:36:07.730 --> 0:36:08.270
<v Speaker 1>Alex, the number one.

0:36:09.190 --> 0:36:13.010
<v Speaker 5>So there you go, Michael Malone, talking about the start.

0:36:13.310 --> 0:36:16.340
<v Speaker 5>He thought they were nervous and jittery. In an exhibition

0:36:16.380 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 5>against Charlotte?

0:36:17.790 --> 0:36:18.170
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:36:18.570 --> 0:36:19.380
<v Speaker 2>What the heck?

0:36:19.510 --> 0:36:19.910
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:36:19.969 --> 0:36:23.840
<v Speaker 7>Maybe maybe the intensity of Michael Malone is also something

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:25.820
<v Speaker 7>they have to get used to. And maybe the nervousness

0:36:25.860 --> 0:36:29.260
<v Speaker 7>comes from this guy's this guy's an intimidating figure.

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:31.319
<v Speaker 2>And it's just got to be something over time that

0:36:31.340 --> 0:36:32.839
<v Speaker 2>they get used to, I guess. Maybe. I don't know.

0:36:32.900 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 7>Put your big boy pants on. I'm not sure why

0:36:34.620 --> 0:36:36.920
<v Speaker 7>you'd be nervous in that environment. It's a home environment

0:36:36.940 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 7>exhibition game. It's their third one.

0:36:39.010 --> 0:36:39.330
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:36:39.850 --> 0:36:42.650
<v Speaker 5>It's kind of odd to me, but he's telling you

0:36:42.670 --> 0:36:46.319
<v Speaker 5>the damn truth right there, what he felt about his team. Yeah,

0:36:46.360 --> 0:36:49.060
<v Speaker 5>if I'm a Tar Heel fan, I'm definitely concerned. It's weird, Fetty,

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:52.200
<v Speaker 5>because the USC game, like there were some legitimate things

0:36:52.260 --> 0:36:56.299
<v Speaker 5>there that I looked at some guys that I did

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:58.980
<v Speaker 5>not expect to play big roles that stepped up. Like

0:36:59.020 --> 0:37:01.520
<v Speaker 5>Stevenson had the big scoring night. Dennis had the big night.

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.319
<v Speaker 5>They hadn't really done that since then, although Stevenson hit

0:37:04.460 --> 0:37:08.440
<v Speaker 5>a couple big shots last night. But how worried are

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:09.840
<v Speaker 5>you about this team, man?

0:37:10.739 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Extremely.

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:16.969
<v Speaker 6>Mack, they paid $ 20 million for that roster. And that's

0:37:17.010 --> 0:37:20.370
<v Speaker 6>a roster that got pushed by a team picked to

0:37:20.390 --> 0:37:23.250
<v Speaker 6>finish fifth in the American. Got thoroughly outplayed by a

0:37:23.270 --> 0:37:27.069
<v Speaker 6>team picked to finish fifth in the American. The Indiana debacle,

0:37:28.580 --> 0:37:30.900
<v Speaker 6>I could justify that in a lot of ways. What

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 6>happened against USC, they were down three of their top

0:37:33.060 --> 0:37:37.489
<v Speaker 6>eight players. That wasn't USC at full force. Like, I

0:37:37.550 --> 0:37:40.569
<v Speaker 6>thought this was going to be like a classic Carolina,

0:37:40.610 --> 0:37:43.300
<v Speaker 6>Roy Williams type of situation where they'll get better game

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 6>to game, week to week, month to month. And I

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.180
<v Speaker 6>thought they had like second weekend potential when you get

0:37:50.489 --> 0:37:50.930
<v Speaker 6>to March.

0:37:52.230 --> 0:37:54.650
<v Speaker 3>Like, they make the tournament. They win a game.

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.120
<v Speaker 6>With what I've seen through three games, I'd be satisfied.

0:37:59.140 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 5>The guards are good, though, right? Abel didn't play last night.

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:02.759
<v Speaker 5>Brown finally got it going.

0:38:02.780 --> 0:38:03.880
<v Speaker 2>He was in attack mode. Yeah, but I don't know

0:38:03.900 --> 0:38:04.800
<v Speaker 2>if they're good together.

0:38:04.900 --> 0:38:07.940
<v Speaker 6>I don't know if Brown and Abdalas can share the

0:38:08.000 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 6>backcourt together. And Malone's talking about, I want to take

0:38:11.140 --> 0:38:12.450
<v Speaker 6>the ball out of Brown's hands.

0:38:13.070 --> 0:38:14.430
<v Speaker 3>I don't understand that mindset.

0:38:15.330 --> 0:38:18.350
<v Speaker 6>But the Neo does these things where it's like, you

0:38:18.390 --> 0:38:19.450
<v Speaker 6>see why the ball's in his hands?

0:38:19.570 --> 0:38:22.590
<v Speaker 5>Oh, yeah. So you think they have two guys that

0:38:22.630 --> 0:38:25.020
<v Speaker 5>both need the ball, is what your concern is.

0:38:25.340 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 6>It's not the same style. It reminds me so much

0:38:28.660 --> 0:38:29.660
<v Speaker 6>of Caleb Love and R.J.

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:30.100
<v Speaker 1>Davis.

0:38:30.980 --> 0:38:34.779
<v Speaker 6>They coexisted together for six weeks and three years. Like,

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:37.740
<v Speaker 6>six weeks it looked okay. I don't know if they

0:38:37.780 --> 0:38:38.750
<v Speaker 6>can play together.

0:38:38.870 --> 0:38:39.589
<v Speaker 2>Like, they may have to.

0:38:41.010 --> 0:38:42.089
<v Speaker 3>trade them on and off.

0:38:42.350 --> 0:38:45.790
<v Speaker 5>Maybe just put Abdallah at center since he had seven

0:38:45.830 --> 0:38:47.850
<v Speaker 5>more rebounds than your starting center did.

0:38:47.969 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 7>The good news is I think Michael Mullen's going to

0:38:50.100 --> 0:38:51.819
<v Speaker 7>be really good long-term. He's got them in the mix

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 7>for so many high-level recruits going forward. So try to

0:38:56.020 --> 0:38:58.700
<v Speaker 7>navigate this year. Maybe he can maximize the most out

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:01.020
<v Speaker 7>of the roster. Phinney, I asked you last week, and

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:03.390
<v Speaker 7>I'm not saying that he was tied to them, but

0:39:03.450 --> 0:39:07.850
<v Speaker 7>I looked at the news of Trey Kaufman-Wren going to Kansas,

0:39:08.270 --> 0:39:10.990
<v Speaker 7>the former Purdue star that went there late, and I thought, man,

0:39:11.510 --> 0:39:13.819
<v Speaker 7>would he not have been a huge addition to the

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:17.660
<v Speaker 7>heels up front, half-court offense in a Mike Malone system?

0:39:18.020 --> 0:39:20.420
<v Speaker 7>I thought Trey Kaufman-Wren would have been a massive get

0:39:20.420 --> 0:39:22.219
<v Speaker 7>for the heels late in the fall. I don't know

0:39:22.219 --> 0:39:24.069
<v Speaker 7>if there was ever talk of that. Do they have

0:39:24.070 --> 0:39:24.720
<v Speaker 7>any roster spots?

0:39:24.739 --> 0:39:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the thing.

0:39:25.620 --> 0:39:27.940
<v Speaker 6>But I don't disagree with what you're saying. But Michael

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:29.879
<v Speaker 6>Malone was probably sitting there thinking, this guy has no.

0:39:31.380 --> 0:39:33.420
<v Speaker 3>Eligibility left, why would I try to pursue him?

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:33.859
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:39:33.989 --> 0:39:35.340
<v Speaker 7>And then all of a sudden, the dude ends up

0:39:35.410 --> 0:39:37.770
<v Speaker 7>in Kansas. He's a great fit for, like, what you

0:39:37.790 --> 0:39:39.109
<v Speaker 7>need in the half court.

0:39:39.150 --> 0:39:39.810
<v Speaker 2>You're not lying.

0:39:39.830 --> 0:39:41.509
<v Speaker 6>Like, I think if he could go back and redo it,

0:39:41.570 --> 0:39:43.990
<v Speaker 6>they'd probably go and get a much more legitimate front court.

0:39:44.330 --> 0:39:46.290
<v Speaker 3>Like, look, Kano's going to be fine.

0:39:46.630 --> 0:39:48.089
<v Speaker 6>Like, Mac, what he did in the short roll with

0:39:48.110 --> 0:39:50.510
<v Speaker 6>those passes in the pocket, he's going.

0:39:50.390 --> 0:39:50.740
<v Speaker 2>To be fine.

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:53.500
<v Speaker 3>Hit a three. He's got to get stronger.

0:39:53.540 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 2>He's got to get two rebounds in 33 minutes. But, like...

0:39:56.500 --> 0:39:58.940
<v Speaker 2>And then Jaron Stevenson, two rebounds?

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 3>We're talking about Cameron Fins as if he's God.

0:40:02.380 --> 0:40:03.640
<v Speaker 2>He played at South Dakota.

0:40:03.660 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 3>He was an all-Summit League player. He would help the frontcourt.

0:40:07.300 --> 0:40:09.219
<v Speaker 6>He doesn't revitalize it in a way that they could

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:11.140
<v Speaker 6>compete with the big boys of college basketball.

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:12.419
<v Speaker 3>They've got issues, man.

0:40:12.660 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 5>Let me read off some of these texts. Bingo says

0:40:14.780 --> 0:40:17.350
<v Speaker 5>it's an exhibition game. Fitty might be the most negative

0:40:17.390 --> 0:40:20.250
<v Speaker 5>Heels fan in the world. Another texter, we should have

0:40:20.270 --> 0:40:24.930
<v Speaker 5>hired Wes Miller. Myron says the guards are not UNC good.

0:40:25.010 --> 0:40:26.190
<v Speaker 5>They are meh.

0:40:26.350 --> 0:40:27.009
<v Speaker 2>I disagree with that.

0:40:27.030 --> 0:40:29.220
<v Speaker 5>What does that make the rebounders to front court then?

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:32.420
<v Speaker 5>Terrence Brown looks like a UNC guard.

0:40:32.739 --> 0:40:34.779
<v Speaker 7>There's also really not a lot of big men depth

0:40:34.820 --> 0:40:38.239
<v Speaker 7>back there. I know that Cameron Fens had eligibility, but

0:40:38.260 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 7>there's not a lot of bodies off that right now anyway,

0:40:41.260 --> 0:40:42.180
<v Speaker 7>like big men wise.

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 5>Some of their off made some plays, but it's just

0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:46.450
<v Speaker 5>it seems like a lot. That's where it feels mad

0:40:46.469 --> 0:40:47.730
<v Speaker 5>to me. The front line. Yes.

0:40:47.870 --> 0:40:49.089
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's where it feels mad.

0:40:49.790 --> 0:40:54.149
<v Speaker 5>Let's get to the Hornets portion of of Hoopscoop Boogie here,

0:40:54.210 --> 0:40:54.650
<v Speaker 5>shall we?

0:40:55.590 --> 0:40:58.730
<v Speaker 2>Let's I'm aroused. Let's salute Muggsy Bogues.

0:40:58.450 --> 0:41:01.299
<v Speaker 5>Because the Hornets are going to do so on February 1st.

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:03.819
<v Speaker 2>The Hornets are going to walk or settle down.

0:41:04.020 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 5>The Hornets are going to retire Muggsy's number, and let

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:09.859
<v Speaker 5>me be the first to read off. I'm sure this

0:41:09.900 --> 0:41:12.620
<v Speaker 5>joke was used probably on KB's show about 15 times

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:15.700
<v Speaker 5>by texters, but let me read off the texter that says,

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:18.359
<v Speaker 5>now we know why they traded LaMelo so they could

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:19.430
<v Speaker 5>retire Muggsy's number.

0:41:19.910 --> 0:41:21.910
<v Speaker 2>So there you go. What a line. There you go.

0:41:22.150 --> 0:41:24.650
<v Speaker 2>Hell of a line, baby. I like it. What a line.

0:41:24.670 --> 0:41:28.930
<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me? Long overdue, Bonesy. Long overdue, right?

0:41:29.270 --> 0:41:31.509
<v Speaker 7>When the new ownership took over, one of the first

0:41:31.530 --> 0:41:33.509
<v Speaker 7>things I said was they had to figure out a

0:41:33.530 --> 0:41:37.750
<v Speaker 7>way to honor Dell and Muggsy and get their jerseys retired.

0:41:38.210 --> 0:41:41.820
<v Speaker 7>It was overdue long before they took over. I'm glad

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:45.220
<v Speaker 7>that they are doing both those things. Dell last year,

0:41:45.660 --> 0:41:46.839
<v Speaker 7>now Muggsy this year.

0:41:46.900 --> 0:41:47.540
<v Speaker 2>Well-deserved.

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:53.050
<v Speaker 7>Muggsy Bogues is in that Luke Keekly category of all-time

0:41:53.110 --> 0:41:56.170
<v Speaker 7>Charlotte athletes that fans love the most. Whenever we talk

0:41:56.190 --> 0:42:00.010
<v Speaker 7>to Muggsy, we promote Muggsy. Whenever he's out somewhere, Muggsy

0:42:00.050 --> 0:42:03.830
<v Speaker 7>Bogues just appeals to that era, to so many people,

0:42:03.870 --> 0:42:08.230
<v Speaker 7>his story, his journey. one of the most unique athletes ever.

0:42:08.590 --> 0:42:11.590
<v Speaker 7>And as someone said yesterday on Twitter, we'll see another

0:42:11.630 --> 0:42:14.310
<v Speaker 7>Wemby along the way, like tall dudes will be there forever.

0:42:14.790 --> 0:42:17.819
<v Speaker 7>We will never see a dude five, three playing point

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 7>guard at that level for that long in the NBA.

0:42:19.660 --> 0:42:23.460
<v Speaker 5>No, it's crazy. It's just unbelievable, man. And anybody that

0:42:23.500 --> 0:42:26.419
<v Speaker 5>has children, right. That are like small for their age

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 5>and they want to play sports. You point to Muggsy Bogues.

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<v Speaker 5>I know in soccer, I'll often point to messy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean? The greatest ever.

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<v Speaker 5>And he's small as hell, you know? Hey, you tell

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<v Speaker 5>the little fellas that. But Muggsy Bogues, you can point

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<v Speaker 5>to your kids and say, if he can do it

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<v Speaker 5>with hard work, you can do what you want to

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<v Speaker 5>do as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's just salt of the earth nice guy. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 5>Just salt of the earth. Great freaking guy as well.

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<v Speaker 5>He's the only athlete that looks up to Finney. We will.

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<v Speaker 2>Only literally.

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<v Speaker 6>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Only not in a figurative sense.

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<v Speaker 5>We will, due to time constraints, we will postpone Bill

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<v Speaker 5>Simmons gushing over the Hornets and calling them a playoff team.

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<v Speaker 5>We will do that at the end of the show

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<v Speaker 5>in the wrap-up segment. We will postpone that. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 5>there'll be more of that anyway throughout the season.

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<v Speaker 7>When we come back, Willie P, he talks about the

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<v Speaker 7>Panthers debacle on Sunday, FC losing late on Saturday, the

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<v Speaker 7>Hornets start to the season.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all on the table. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.