1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Let the end of the year festivities commence. Dear Lord. 2 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever felt this way about 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: a year. Maybe it's because ending the year with a 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: cold is just like, Dear Lord, make it stop. There's 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: a part of me thrilled that twenty twenty five is 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: coming to an end. 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: Part of you, Every part of me is thrilled that 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five is coming to an end. 9 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Is that because Fingers Maloy Senior moved in and the 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: move of new houses and everything else. 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: No, it has been a very stressful year, but I'm 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: thrilled that Fingers Moy Senior has moved into right casa 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: Dave thing wife. 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 3: You don't call cosade fingers I do, now, that's what 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: I thought. 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: See drink smoke, come Tony Katz, and that right there 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Maloy. 18 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: I just feel like it has. 19 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: Taken for forever to get here, and I don't know, 20 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: this last month seems to have been just a problem, 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: but maybe not for you. Maybe it's an hour wonderful 22 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: and joyous Christmas and now you're just gonna float yourself 23 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: into the new year and get things started fresh. 24 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: We are ending the year with. 25 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: The TAA exclusive from Espinoza. This is the Knuckle Sandwich 26 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: off menu. This only comes in one size and is 27 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,199 Speaker 1: not available everywhere. This was a release for the Tobacconist 28 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: Association of America, So if your local cigar lounge is 29 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: part of the TAA, you can find this. Maybe you 30 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: can find it online, search for it. The knuckle Sandwich 31 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: has been hugely popular. It's been a great success. It's 32 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: done incredible work for Espinoza, who does some lovely cigars 33 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: on his own. This comes in one vitola. This is 34 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: a six by fifty four, which means it's six inches long. 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: Tea always makes fingers when I laugh, and the ring 36 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,279 Speaker 1: gage is a fifty four the diameter of the cigar 37 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: or how thick it is around tea again with the laughter. 38 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: So this is a Pennsylvania Broadleaf, which I do really like. 39 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: Nicaraguan in the binder and the filler, and I will 40 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: tell you I know that this box press is going 41 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: to be a full body cigar. How do I know 42 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: this because it's Espinoza and the vast majority of where 43 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: they play is in these to me, very bold flavors, 44 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 1: a little bit of the unique flavors that they get 45 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: to the other knuckle sandwiches. You know, there's a series 46 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: on the Chefs Edition, et cetera. I think you play 47 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: in that medium medium full this right now, with the 48 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: darkness of this, the richness of this, and what I 49 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: know about it, this is going to be a full 50 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: body smoke. 51 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 52 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 2: And the hand feel right off the bat with that 53 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: box press, between that and the nice little bit of 54 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: half to it is a home run in my mind. 55 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 2: You're just you're just you're just cutting the cap off now, yeah, 56 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: just right now, right now as we speak. 57 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't want to start without everybody. You know, 58 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: they waited for me. I wait for that. 59 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 3: Oh you didn't wait, No, of course. 60 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 2: Well, someone has to describe some of the flavor notes 61 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: that you're getting from the cigar. 62 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: What are the flavor notes you're getting from the cigar? 63 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: Fingers started to early Belloyd. 64 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 2: Uh, it's earthy and then maybe a little a little 65 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: bit of chocolate, not a whole heck of a lot, 66 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: but a hint of it there. I'm not really getting 67 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: any pepper or spice at this point, but I lit mine. Uh, 68 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 2: four minutes before Tony's lighting his. You had a cold. 69 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 3: Yes, I still do. And then a week later I 70 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: had a cold. Are you in the trail end a 71 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: tailing end, finishing end of this. 72 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, A little bit of sinus uh inflammation going on 73 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: and a lot of chest congestion, but it's still there. 74 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: It's one of those. It really does stink to have a. 75 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: Cold because it for a lot of people, including myself, 76 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: it feels like a last a month long. 77 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 78 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: And I had a I had a business meeting two 79 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: days ago. Two days ago, and it was at one 80 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: one of our favorite cigar lounges here in Indianapolis, Blendbar Cigar, 81 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: and I had a cigar and I picked. I said, 82 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: what is the boldest, richest cigar? So I can actually 83 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: taste it because I still had the nose cold. When 84 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: you have it in the nose, I mean, I don't 85 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: suggest smoking when you have a cold at all. You 86 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: can still find some things that you can actually connect with. 87 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: When you have it in the chest, even though you 88 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: don't inhale, everything becomes impossible. It's just it so throws 89 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: the breathing off. You're just so unhappy. Don't do it, 90 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: really and truly, don't do it, and don't rush it 91 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: fingers is doing it because a eat, drink, smoke nation 92 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: and B he's a professional and also glutton for punishment. 93 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: But don't the nose. Sometimes you can get away with it, right. 94 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: You could still find flavors. The chest is just it's 95 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: just you're gonna hurt yourself. 96 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 3: It's the breathing. I completely disagree with you. Really, yes, 97 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: I will say this. 98 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: Don't go into your humidor and get one of your 99 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: favorite cigars that you spend a lot of money on. 100 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 2: God no, But if you feel like you need something 101 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: to help you relax to unwind, find yourself the daily 102 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: smoke that maybe you look and you saw in the 103 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: human door. 104 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 3: Oh oh the rappers cracked. 105 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: Go ahead and like that one and sit back and 106 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: try to unwind and relax. As long as you know 107 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 2: the chest congestion is not too bad to where you'll 108 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: start coughing up along while you're while you're smoking. 109 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, you are not wrong about this. 110 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: The off menu from a knuckle sandwich Espinoza. This is 111 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: freaking hefty. You earthy? 112 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 3: Was you know? 113 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: Earthy is one of those things that drives some people 114 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: up a wall. It's like how some people react to 115 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: the word moist like earthy just sends them oh sorry, 116 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: what fingers? 117 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 3: Wow? 118 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: The everyone in on you know, listening to the radio 119 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: who happens to be female for some reason, those are 120 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: the ones that those are the folks that can't stand 121 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 2: the word moist. 122 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not one of those people. 123 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: This earthy is is is one of those things that 124 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: like it brings about a lot of questions and it 125 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: gets people a little bit nuts. And do you mean dirt? 126 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: Do you mean smelly? Do you mean like grassish? 127 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: What? There? 128 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: Dirt is a great great way to get into this, 129 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: but not manure, right. Manure is what we call the 130 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: scent of the farm, which is is a very unique thing. 131 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,119 Speaker 1: And it's not that it it only sounds off putting. 132 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: It really isn't. 133 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 3: Holy cow. 134 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: Earth is an excellent way to get into the first 135 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: part of this smoke. 136 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah to me, And this is where my cold maybe 137 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 2: playing tricks on my palette. It's it's dirt mixed with 138 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: almost like a like wet leaves. Does that make sense It. 139 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: If wet leaves were in the fireplace we're in we're 140 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: in the pond fire. Yeah, that as a flavor, that's 141 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: where you are and honestly super cool. Very rarely can 142 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: you describe a cigar as this has the kind of 143 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: smokey right now that. 144 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: I would attribute to certain bourbons. 145 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: Okay, I am, as a matter of course, not the 146 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: biggest fan of the knuckle Sandwich. I understand that how 147 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: it exploded. I understand its success, and I'm thrilled press 148 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: Minosa for Eric and the entire team over there, and 149 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: for guy who we've interviewed him before. He was certainly 150 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: nice enough to us. He's been a good ambassador for cigars. 151 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: I've heard different things about him as a person, but 152 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: people have heard different things about me as a person. 153 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: Who am I to say? This is the first one 154 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: where I'm like, well, that's trying something. This is way 155 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 1: off the path from the regular knuckle sandwich or the 156 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: chefs of dish anything else. You can feel this in 157 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: the throat, This is everywhere, and I I mean we 158 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: should repairing it with a rye. We'll get into that. 159 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: You compare this with I'd like to see this with 160 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: a Scotch and see if it competes, see how that plays. 161 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: It's kind and nuts, but yes, bonfire and that what 162 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: That's a really good description man, bravo on you. 163 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: Well, that's a good rea. I've done this before, and 164 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: thank you. 165 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: I'm pairing it right now with coffee, and I'm very 166 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: happy with that pairing. 167 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 3: Right Duncan taking care of you today. I didn't know 168 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: we were mentioning there. 169 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: It's okay, It's okay. They may find coffee. Duncan does 170 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: find coffee. I approve they would be great sponsors of 171 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: Eat Drink Smoke. 172 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 2: Well, I had Fingers coffee back at the house and 173 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 2: I left it on the counter. 174 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 3: I thought it would be a good idea just to 175 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 3: leave it there. It's a good place for it. 176 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: Now, what is the cost of the cigar and is 177 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: it in the humid are We will find out in 178 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: a little bit time to figure it out. 179 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: In just a little bit. I'll say it again. 180 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: So, as we have often discussed here at Eat Drink Smoke, 181 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: we don't know whether there are more recalls happening, or 182 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: whether or not we know about more recalls because we're 183 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: paying attention to them. But this ice cream one, this 184 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: is new. It's drink smell Come Tony Katz. That is 185 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Maloy. This is from Southern 186 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: living where fingers May gets all his recall news. 187 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: Well that and also I like to keep tabs on 188 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 2: what it's like to live in the South. 189 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: According to the US Food and Drug Administration denon denone 190 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: U S d A N O n E d A 191 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: N O n E, they announced a voluntary recall of 192 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: its quote so delicious dairy free salted caramel cluster non 193 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: dairy frozen desserts. 194 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: What yeah, okay, my kids? My kids eat the don 195 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 2: dairy ice cream, do they? 196 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? 197 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: Because everybody either apparently under the age of twenty five, 198 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: has peanut allergy or they're they're lactose intolerant. 199 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: We are so doomed. 200 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: The recall was issued due to the potential presence of 201 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: farm materials quote such as small stones and other hard objects. 202 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 4: Why why are you giggling like like I've never seen 203 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 4: you turn away from the mic so you could like 204 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 4: a schoolgirl giggle? 205 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: What is what is so comedic? Small stones in your 206 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: ice cream? 207 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: I I don't even understand how it's possible. 208 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 2: You ever pan your ice cream before you eat it? 209 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: Does that ever happen? 210 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: I understand how machinery can get a metal fragment in 211 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: it's it's it seems odd, but you can kind of 212 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: understand it. How in the world do small stones end 213 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: up in the ice cream? 214 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 2: Apparently it's within cashew inclusions. What I'm only as in 215 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: the cashew nut. Yes, and so when they get the cashews, 216 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 2: because the nut grows in the ground, there are small 217 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: pebbles and no one washed, No one washed it. 218 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: They may have just wiped it clean. I don't know. 219 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 3: I'm just making stuff up now. 220 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: That's what Southern Living is reporting that the small stones 221 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 2: and other hard objects apparently could have been incorporated in 222 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: the ice cream due to cashew inclusions. 223 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: I saw cashew inclusions open up for Duran Durant in 224 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine. 225 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: There it is, huh ah ah. 226 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: Nothing is safe anymore, absolutely nothing, not even Jim Beam 227 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: oh oh, stones and the gym beam is there now. 228 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: Lexicon Herald leader with the reporting, and we've talked about this, 229 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: and Fingers was mentioning during the break, I agree. I 230 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: think it's actually a shorter timeline. You're going to see distilleries. 231 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying this about Beam, it's Beam, it's Beam sentory. 232 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: You're talking about massive dollars. You're going to see distilleries 233 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: go under. We saw a massive increase in craft beer. 234 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: We saw craft beer go by the wayside. We saw 235 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: massive increase in distilleries. And the problem is you can't 236 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: rush bourbon. If you want a four year bourbon, you 237 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: have to wait four years. You want a twelve year bourbon. 238 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: Guess what you're gonna do. You're gonna wait. But people 239 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: are drinking less. Gen Z is drinking less. You've got ozembic, 240 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: You've got as you brought up gummies, you know alternatives. 241 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: You've got a generation that is less interested in more 242 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: interested in mocktails. And the non alcoholic Beam is going 243 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: to shut down production on January first through twenty twenty six. 244 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: Now what they're saying is is that because of the 245 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: slowdown in bourbon consumption, they have enough on the shelves. 246 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: This is happening in a lot of places. All they're 247 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: doing is shutting down production. They're not the barrels will 248 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: still be there. They're just not gonna barrel something new. 249 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna simply wait to see where they are and 250 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: then adjust. It makes sense, but it does tell a story. 251 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: The COVID stuff, The COVID bourbon craze is very over, 252 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: and the bourbon drought in terms of Americans palettes has begun. 253 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: How has it happen so fast? You mentioned the COVID 254 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: bourbon boom. It's not like we're talking about something that 255 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: happened thirty years ago. 256 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: It was eighteen on four here John Kennedy was still alive. 257 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 2: You were listening to old time radio and your thoughts 258 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 2: to yourself, I could use a shot of something, something strong, 259 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: a belt if you will. 260 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 3: Why don't I. 261 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: Go to the liquor cabinet and get myself a fine 262 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 2: glass of bourbon. This is four years ago we're talking about, 263 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 2: and from there to now we're talking about complete shifts 264 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: in customer attitudes towards alcohol, particularly young people, to where 265 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,319 Speaker 2: we're seeing distilleries really struggle. It's amazing how quickly this 266 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: is happening. 267 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: So let's go take a step back. The shift amongst 268 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: younger generations was happening. It was well counteracted by people 269 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: who were staying home and had disposable income and had 270 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: no problem buying one hundred dollars bottle and buying twelve 271 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: of them and trying it. But once they tried it, 272 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: they didn't go back and buy the next bottles, right, 273 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: they were not long term buyers in the main, So 274 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: all of that which covered up what was happening you 275 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: know culturally that that was a cover, right, These people 276 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: buying more was a cover for the people not buying much. 277 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: Now you add into this not only generational shifts, but 278 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: what has happened with ozembic, manjaro a, all the rest 279 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: that has people drinking less because they're they're losing weight. 280 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: Not us, but they're losing weight. Uh and and uh 281 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: and they're not drinking as much. So you had added 282 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: a cultural shift with a cultural shift with the end 283 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: of disposable income, and so it looks. 284 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: Far more drastic. 285 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 2: I would love to talk to someone who is on 286 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: ozembic or one of these other. 287 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: Drugs, just to get. 288 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 2: A sense for how alcohol really has an impact on them. 289 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: Is it that they drink less because it hits them harder? 290 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: They less according to the to the sources, Uh, it's 291 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: less of a of a desire, it's less of a crave. 292 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't It doesn't sound right. I don't think I 293 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: want that. That's that's what it is. Wow, I don't 294 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: think it's I drink the bourbon and then I feel odd. 295 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: Or strange or ill or anything like that. 296 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. 297 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: If it was like a negative body reaction to alcoholics, 298 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: maybe someone could have that. 299 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: I just that's not what I I've read and engaged. 300 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: It's just that there's just no want if you will, 301 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: because if you're not hungry, full, I'm okay, I'm good, 302 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: it just doesn't come to mind. 303 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: I think that's the story. 304 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 2: Do you think that it's a combination of just being 305 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: satisfied in general with little to know, whether it's food 306 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: or anything else, and then you're just turning away from 307 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: alcohol together because of it. It's like you're just constantly 308 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 2: you're a level of satiatiated. 309 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the By the way, we both 310 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: use the word satiated, we were ready for wordle. But 311 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: as a matter of it being an issue, it's an issue. 312 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: It is an absolute issue. You're you You take a 313 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: look at what's going on with with Beam, and you 314 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: realize it's Beam. They're they're they're reading the market properly, right. 315 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: If there's somebody you're gonna follow, it's a company in 316 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: terms of the market, someone you'd follow. 317 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: They can afford this. 318 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: They've got barrels and they can ramp up production anytime 319 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: they choose smaller guys. 320 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: They can't. That's what I was just about to say. 321 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: Maybe your local distillery that you are a fan of, 322 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 2: you haven't visited it in a while, Maybe it's a 323 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: good idea to go buy a bottle and support local. 324 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 3: I just don't know it'll be enough. 325 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: In some ways, I really do think the damage has 326 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: already done. We've got a lot to get to keep 327 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: it here. Eat, I'm smoking in just a garbourbon food. 328 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: The extravaganza on Tony Katz. That is Fingers Molloy right there, 329 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: brought to you in part by Fledamen of von Reest. 330 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: Time pieces for the generations. 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Now, you said, fingers, you've got 346 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: these two notes, this earthliness with bonfire kind of thing 347 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: with the with the wet leaves you're talking about, but. 348 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: That's all you're getting ready, Yeah, and I'm I guess 349 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be a little spicier 350 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 2: or you know, at least some more pepper, and I'm 351 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: not getting any of that, by the way, not complaining. 352 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 2: Very happy with this cigar. And also it has been 353 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: the construction fantastic, what you would expect from a knuckle 354 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: sandwich and Espinoza. Uh, the it's been very low Dominans 355 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: haven't really had to touch it up. And the hand 356 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: feel is fantastic. Very happy with the cigar. 357 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: Yes, so it's a six by fifty four box press 358 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,479 Speaker 1: and what you want to do is get out your 359 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: notebooks and what'd you eat today? 360 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 3: What did you drink today? 361 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: You know, we've got a little mild to weather this 362 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: Christmas week here in Indianapolis, Indiana, where we come from. 363 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: And then you take the cigar. You write, you write 364 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: down what you ate, what did you drink, what you 365 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: eat today, drink today, weather, things like that all affects palette. 366 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: And then break the scar in the third, first, third, second, third, 367 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: final third, and then what are the flavors you're getting 368 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: out of each third? It doesn't matter how weird or 369 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: esoterically said bonfire. I mean we have never said bonfire before. 370 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: He never wet leaves has never come up, I don't 371 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: think on the show. 372 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: But you write those things down. 373 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: When you try this cigar a month from now, six 374 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: months from now, whatever it is, you do the same thing. 375 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: You go back and compare your notes, and that's really 376 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 3: you know, your through line, the. 377 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: Flavors, what it is you got out of the cigar. 378 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: I want to say that I'm a little overpowered by it. 379 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: This smokiness, bonfire smokiness is really up all in my nose. 380 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 4: Now. 381 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: It could be because I'm at the very tail end. 382 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not totally clean up there, you know what 383 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean, there's still some residual. Uh did you try 384 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: the dewey pot. 385 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 3: It's it's a netty pot. 386 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: Oh you might want to write that down and that 387 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: could be it, but it is, it's it's it's a strong, 388 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: strong bit of thing happening here. And I I'm not 389 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: one hundred percent sure. I am not a hundred percent 390 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: sure this is in my humid or. The question I'll 391 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: ask for you, Fingers malloy, Is it in your humid 392 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: or for sixteen dollars a stick? 393 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. 394 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, the whole re examining what we like 395 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: to spend on a cigar. Sixteen dollars nowadays, it's what 396 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 2: you could expect for, Uh, this type of cigar, I believe. 397 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: I'm very happy with it. And uh, I can totally 398 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 2: see it in my humidor. I will tell you that. 399 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 3: That. Don't get me confused. 400 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: There's compared to everything else I've done in the knuckle 401 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: sandwich line, I would be here the other smokes, I would, 402 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: I would. I would call them cleaner, but that's not 403 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: the right word. Much easier, much easier. I never I 404 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: never thought there was too much in anyone direction. That 405 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: was something that bothered me about that. I want a 406 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: little more, a little a little m pappa, a little 407 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: humpful oompful little something. Oh, this has got some freakin' oomped. 408 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: This is some full bodied stuff right here. Very very 409 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: unique flavor for sure. But it's time fingers Ratio maloy 410 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: for news of the week. Tony, Let's go to Texas. 411 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: I love. We have to go to Memphis. We gotta 412 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: go to King Jerry Lawler Barbecue. We got somebody invite 413 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: us to Texas. We'll do a barbecue tour. We'll eat 414 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: some water burger fingers. Mall Oi will wear a Dallas 415 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: Cowboys jersey. I'm sorry, what a Houston Texans jersey? Okay, 416 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have a problem with the Houston Texans jersey. 417 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: Wouldn't have a problem with the Houston Texans j so 418 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: AFC you're fine with? Yeah, absolutely got it. 419 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: What do you got from? Well, I actually meant the story, 420 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: but now that you mention it, yes, I would like 421 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: to go to Texas tomorrow. 422 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 3: What is the story? Down? From deep in the heart 423 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 3: of Texas. A temporary restraining order has been put against 424 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 3: High Sense the television company after Texas Attorney General Ken 425 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: Paxson filed a lawsuit claiming the company is spying on Americans. 426 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so okay. Paxton is also running for governor of Texas. 427 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: So there's a couple of things happening here. Not governor, sorry, Senate. 428 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: He's part of the Senate run. 429 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 3: Isn't he. He's running against Cornyn. And then you have 430 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 3: Wesley Hunts running as a Republican. 431 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: And then you have the congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, who's made 432 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: all sorts of names for herself and not necessarily in 433 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: the best way, running as a Democrat. 434 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 3: So there's a huge thing there. So I think Paxton's 435 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: running for that Senate seat. Are you you suggesting that 436 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: this has everything to do with a political run and 437 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 3: not that a politician would be trying to protect Americans? 438 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 3: Mostly yes, But the. 439 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: High sense is made by the Chinese, the Communist Chinese 440 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: Party and anything that we are getting technologically. 441 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter where your politics are. 442 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 1: You have to accept the fact that China does not 443 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: play by any rules that we do. The Communist Chinese Party, 444 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: the CCP, the POLP Buro do not do this. Jijinping, 445 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: the president. The dictator does not do this. And this 446 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: is the same reason that the United States, Canada, and 447 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: the UK have pushed aside Chinese companies like Huawei for 448 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: five G and those Internet protocols. Right, five G is 449 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: the Internet of things, and you can't trust the communist 450 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: Chinese to have control of these things. This is not absurd. 451 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: It's why you hear about land purchases in the United States. 452 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: Communist Chinese buying land near military basis. This is a 453 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: serious issue. It can't be allowed, which is a weird 454 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: thing to hear in the United States of America, but 455 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: there's a real national security issue. Know, the comunists Chinese 456 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: can't be trusted because they've proven they can't be trusted. 457 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: They've done this and we would be fools if we 458 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: didn't notice. So what do I know about high sense 459 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: and actual spying. I can't say that I do. 460 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: Let me fill you in. Oh please. 461 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: So Paxton is concerned, according to Fox seven Austin, that 462 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,719 Speaker 2: they use automated content recognition technology. Basically, the television can 463 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: spy on what you are watching and the audio from 464 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: your television, what content you're consuming, and then this restraining 465 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 2: order prevents high sense from collecting and using, selling or sharing, 466 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 2: disclosing or transferring any of that data to companies, And 467 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 2: so that's where this is coming from. So the television 468 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: is basically using technology to accumulate data based on what 469 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 2: you're watching and listening to you. 470 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 3: Now, lots of. 471 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: People would say, what's the difference between them and Amazon? 472 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: What's the difference between them and Apple? You're talking about something. 473 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: The next thing you know, you go to Facebook and 474 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: all of a sudden there's an ad for it, and 475 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: you're like, what's happening here? And any company that wants 476 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: to say, no, your phone is not listening to your phone, 477 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: it's not spying on you. 478 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 3: Of course it is. 479 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: Everybody believes this, and anybody who thinks otherwise from these 480 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: companies is crazy. If these companies think that we don't 481 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: know this, they're full of crap. Whether it's Google, whether 482 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: it's Facebook, any of them, they're out of their minds fingers. 483 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: So really, one could argue, what's the difference, Well, the 484 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: communist Chinese are fundamentally different. 485 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 2: But I would really be interested in finding out. High 486 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: Sense can't be the only television company doing this correct. 487 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: There has to be others involved as well. They're doing 488 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: the similar data collection and selling that data to other companies. 489 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's the question why high Sense, And I 490 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: think you've already kind of answered it, but yeah, how 491 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: is it different than other companies. I've mentioned this before. 492 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: I was out in my backyard cleaning out a window 493 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 2: well and my father said, you should. They should get 494 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: a cover that's completely plastic, that covers it so there's 495 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 2: no grats. My phone was in my pocket, never searched 496 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: for anything like that. I open up Instagram and there 497 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: are these covers that are for sale for window wells. Crazy. 498 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: I never searched for that ever on my phone. Everybody's 499 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 2: listening all the time. 500 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 3: All the time, everywhere. It is super creepy. And yes, 501 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 3: I we You know. 502 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: You're the guy who is always like I don't like 503 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: saying there ought to be a law, right, You've said 504 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: it a million times and a bunch of things from that. 505 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 3: This stuff has to has to stop. Stuff absolutely has 506 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 3: to come to an end. So am I bothered by 507 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 3: this idea? If indeed they're doing this not allowing it, 508 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 3: I'm fine, personally fine with it. 509 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: I sometimes don't know how we don't do better with 510 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: the travel podcast because we're talking about like. 511 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 3: Airlines and airports all the time. 512 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: Come well, usually we're just complaining about TSA, but we're 513 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: talking about it all the time. It's eatering smoke. I'm 514 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: Tony Katz. That's fingers below. I find everything we do 515 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: at eateringksmokeshow dot com. 516 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 2: What about Spirit Airlines now? Can we real quick? I 517 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 2: have a Spirit story? 518 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 3: You do? 519 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: They got one hundred million dollars as a lifeline, so 520 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. All I saw was like like the 521 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: breaking news thing. I'm like, that's impossible. Spirit Airlines basically said, 522 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: we're done here, thank you very much. 523 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: You're gonna have to have a fight on somebody else's 524 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 3: airline now. 525 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: And they sold two of their dates at Chicago was 526 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: at O'Hare, you know, to to United or to American 527 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: to American airlines and all right. 528 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 3: They're getting ready to get out of business. 529 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: They couldn't guarantee that they were gonna be able to 530 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: fly any day. 531 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 3: Someone give them a hundred million dollars what. I don't 532 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: even know how that works. 533 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: That's a wise investment I have, by the way, for 534 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 2: that investor out there, I've got a dial up internet 535 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: company that you should invest in. 536 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 3: I like it. 537 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 1: I like it a lot. Dial up as the future. 538 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: But now you have this story airports. This is the 539 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: New York Post reporting airports allow non traveling public past 540 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: security entrances for the first time in decades. So this 541 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: is starting in Oakland. They announced it'll be introducing guest 542 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: passes for non passengers. Now, if anybody remembers correctly, you 543 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: could go to the gate and wait for your family 544 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: to get off the gate, or your or your or 545 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: your visitor or whatever. I'd be like, get off the 546 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: plane at the gate and be like hey, good to 547 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: say Tommy. 548 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 3: Or say goodbye, and watch the plane actually take off. 549 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: Right now, non passengers can apply online for security clearance 550 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: up to seven days in advance of the day they 551 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: want to visit the airport. You fill out the forum, 552 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: the TSA will approve it the visit by sending the 553 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: non passengers a guest pass. This is right now taking 554 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: place at Oakland, San Francisco Bay Airport, and then you 555 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: have to present the pass along with the TSA approved photo. 556 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: That's that's a step in the right direction, right. 557 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: I'm surprised after all these years, it's it's taken this 558 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: long for this to happen. 559 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: Well, so I can answer this, Okay, It's not that 560 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: it's taken so long for this to happen. It's that 561 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: a government that wants power and control will do the 562 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: things that give it power and control the guys of 563 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: safety and security. Now again, I'm not trying to be political, 564 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: and I think that people a Republican and Democrat, conservative 565 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: and liberal, however you might describe yourself anything between our 566 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: libertarian friends and all that would agree that if you 567 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: claim we have to keep these things safe, it is 568 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: amazing what people will do under the guise of safety, 569 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: which is always the fundamental problem. The thing we really 570 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: talk about with travels the TSA. The TSA is not 571 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: our best conversation and our best foot forward in the 572 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: idea of safety, because we're not dealing with threats. We're 573 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: dealing with abusing the American traveler. Take off your shoes. 574 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: One person engages a shoe bomb, and for over a 575 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: decade we have to take off our shoes. 576 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 3: That isn't the way that should be handled. The idea of. 577 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: The radicalness in the way the TSA treats the American traveler. 578 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: We've discussed this in depth part of the reason you 579 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: see such anxiety at airports. Never mind an anxiety ridden society. 580 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: Never mind how airlines are treating the passengers, how TSA 581 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: treats the passengers as if somehow they're the problem, that 582 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: they are suspects one and all as opposed to American 583 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: citizens engaging in flight. That's why the degradation of air 584 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: travel is so striking and so awful when it used 585 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: to be this thing of luxury and prestige. It's why 586 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate the Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy quoting me 587 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: by saying, put on a suit when you fly. Show 588 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: some damn respect for yourself, show some respect for fellow passengers. 589 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: It's about an attitude. But if you don't recognize that 590 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: the TSA is engaged in such a responsibility for failing 591 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: in that, I don't know what you're doing. Now, I 592 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: notice fingers. You're looking directly into the camera. If you 593 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: haven't caught the video there YouTube dot com slash eating smoke, 594 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: what's your problem? 595 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: You had me until the whole part of the ranch 596 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: where it came to wearing a suit. I'm a plane. 597 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: I'm sorry when plane. When airline companies turned air travel 598 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: into going to Walmart. That's when the whole I'm gonna 599 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: wear a suit thing stops for me. I don't wear 600 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 2: a suit in Walmart. I'm not gonna wear a suit 601 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: on a discount airline, on a plane where an airline 602 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 2: will say to me before I get on the plane, 603 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: use the bathroom before you get on that plane, because 604 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: only one lavatory is working. Oh and by the way, 605 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 2: if you want a snack, you should get it now 606 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: because we only have one beverage cart on the plane. 607 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 3: Those last two things actually happened to us on flights. 608 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 3: That does it. 609 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: But having said that, you know, I agree with you 610 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: for the most part about TSA. Some people call much 611 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: of what TSA does security theater. But I have to 612 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 2: tell you when I was flying out of Florida one 613 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 2: time and I was right behind a nine year old 614 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: as a TSA agent was frantic searching that nine year 615 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: old's SpongeBob square pants backpack and looking for something, I 616 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: felt safer afterward. 617 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I like about that, The believability 618 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 5: that you felt safe for it is it's TSA theater, 619 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 5: of course, it is. 620 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: We're We're we want eighty year old women to stand 621 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: up out of their wheelchairs so they could be physically frisked. 622 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 3: What do we were, It's pretend it's garbage. 623 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 2: You don't know what was going through Ethel's mind as 624 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 2: she's going through security. 625 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 3: Ethl was the name of my grandmother. Really, yeah, it was. 626 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: Let's let's be honest here, Ethyldule, Bertha, Mabel. 627 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 3: Those are the three Gramma names. Everybody knows it. 628 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: The only thing Ethel was a danger to was the kitchen. 629 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: That's it. Because she was gonna whip that mother into 630 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: shape and make incredible things right. 631 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 3: That kitchen was going to work hard when Ethel was 632 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 3: in there. That's it. That's it. Ethel was it. 633 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 2: Now when it comes to this, when it when it 634 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: comes to the idea that you can be a a 635 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: non traveler and actually go through tsa security, A little 636 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 2: bit of. 637 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: This has been happening. Cleveland has one of these kinds 638 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: of passes. San Antonio has one of these kinds of 639 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: Passnesota's Kansas City, Philadelphia, Detroit. I'm happy. I'm happy to 640 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: see it. Uh, and I don't. I think maybe the 641 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: why now is that we've come to a realization that 642 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: we are all kidding ourselves. We're fooling ourselves, and it's well, 643 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: it's dumb. It's a dumb thing to do. We should 644 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 1: stop that. Who is the threat, what are the threats? 645 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: How does one combat the threat? And does the American 646 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: citizen have to somehow be subjugated to an unelected bureaucracy 647 00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: that is I think not well trained and it seems 648 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: to be very much in the belief that the American 649 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 1: flyer is the enemy. 650 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 2: Well, my if this is a trial program and they're 651 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 2: going to eventually roll this out nationwide, I'm thrilled. My 652 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 2: only problem with all of this is, Okay, we federalized 653 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: airport security, and yet airport security is different at every 654 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 2: airport right, And that, to me is something that needs 655 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 2: to be addressed. When you can go to one airport 656 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 2: and they don't want you to take your computer out. 657 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 2: In fact, they actually get angry with you if you 658 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 2: take your computer out, But then you're at another airport 659 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 2: that you're flying back to the first airport that didn't 660 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 2: want you to take the computer out, and they're mad 661 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: at you for not taking your computer out. If you're 662 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 2: going to federalize all this stuff, there needs to be 663 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 2: uniform security procedures at every airport. 664 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: And they don't have uniform technology at every airport, so 665 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: I don't have a uniform procedure at every airport. And 666 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: then they get angry at us and it's barking orders 667 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: as opposed to a politeness. And then these signs that 668 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: say if you are verbally aggressive with TSA, you could 669 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 1: be fined. 670 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 3: And you this and you that. No, Sean Duffy, I 671 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 3: know you. 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