WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Hour 2: Panthers Blame 0:00:25.630 --> 0:00:27.690 I'm just speaking offensively. I think defense played well, gave 0:00:27.770 --> 0:00:30.050 us a chance enough to win. I just think we just, 0:00:30.550 --> 0:00:32.159 you know, kind of shot ourselves in the foot on 0:00:32.170 --> 0:00:34.440 some opportunities. You know, we've got to be better in 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:36.800 the pass game. We've got to pick up lessons, you 0:00:36.820 --> 0:00:39.280 know what I mean? We've got to protect better. That's 0:00:39.300 --> 0:00:40.400 what it is. We've got to look at it and 0:00:40.420 --> 0:00:42.280 see what we can do better, man. Look at it 0:00:42.300 --> 0:00:42.960 and see what we can do better. 0:00:44.760 --> 0:00:45.090 There you go. 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.100 Robert Hunt, man enough to step up and speak last night, 0:00:48.180 --> 0:00:50.650 but he didn't have any dang answers other than we 0:00:50.670 --> 0:00:51.390 got to be better. 0:00:51.770 --> 0:00:54.220 And I think we all both could see that for 0:00:54.310 --> 0:00:56.240 our eyes. What a brutal. 0:00:57.550 --> 0:01:01.030 Offensive performance last night. It was a miracle we got 0:01:01.110 --> 0:01:05.320 to 19 points. Should have been 20. More on that later. 0:01:07.140 --> 0:01:10.600 But we now have to vent, ladies and gentlemen. And 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.660 we've been venting for the first 40 minutes of the show. 0:01:13.700 --> 0:01:16.920 Took a brief respite to tell you what's coming up 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:19.679 in sports in the Couch Potato Guide. You can start 0:01:19.700 --> 0:01:24.010 your venting engines again now, Boney. And the offense was 0:01:24.390 --> 0:01:26.669 ridiculously hard to watch last night. 0:01:26.850 --> 0:01:29.369 I know that it's not all the guys that were 0:01:29.410 --> 0:01:31.289 out there last night, but it is the highest paid 0:01:31.330 --> 0:01:35.230 offensive line in the NFL. So not, you know, Moten's out, Lewis, 0:01:35.270 --> 0:01:37.300 but yeah, there are guys that are out, but they have, 0:01:37.690 --> 0:01:40.280 but they've still heavily invested in the offensive line and 0:01:40.340 --> 0:01:45.260 money and draft choices. and it's just horrible to watch. 0:01:45.340 --> 0:01:47.380 I'm going to go out in a limbo. Freddy Krueger 0:01:47.460 --> 0:01:50.240 thinks it's hard to watch. I'm going to go out 0:01:50.260 --> 0:01:52.380 in a limbo. That's the scariest thing y'all are going 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:53.240 to see this Halloween. 0:01:53.540 --> 0:01:54.120 I know Bryce. 0:01:54.340 --> 0:01:56.540 Ain't nobody going to scare Bryce tomorrow night near as 0:01:56.580 --> 0:01:58.780 bad as he's been scared in the pocket the last 0:01:58.820 --> 0:01:59.360 two games. 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:01.560 Yeah, you just said it, though, Bone. 0:02:01.910 --> 0:02:04.810 Yeah, it's the highest paid offensive line, but three of 0:02:04.830 --> 0:02:08.450 the high paid guys... did not play last night. And 0:02:08.550 --> 0:02:11.070 one of them hasn't played all season in Icky. Another 0:02:11.190 --> 0:02:14.190 one in Moten hasn't played but two games. So that's, 0:02:14.250 --> 0:02:16.790 that context has to be thrown in there. There's no 0:02:16.830 --> 0:02:22.350 doubt about it. With that said, it's brutal. And Brad 0:02:22.410 --> 0:02:24.290 Enzi's going to have to scramble and try to come 0:02:24.330 --> 0:02:26.800 up with some way to scheme around it. I, I, 0:02:28.190 --> 0:02:29.769 I like the way they tried to come out running 0:02:29.790 --> 0:02:32.970 the football. I like the quick passing game that they 0:02:33.070 --> 0:02:36.610 used at times. But when you're no threat whatsoever, Bone, 0:02:36.650 --> 0:02:40.380 to go downfield because there is no time to throw 0:02:40.410 --> 0:02:43.700 the ball downfield and because they're getting pressure with three- 0:02:43.740 --> 0:02:46.940 and four-man rushes and can drop guys back into coverage, 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:50.180 how many replay clips did they show where the coverage 0:02:50.220 --> 0:02:52.040 is back there taking everything away? 0:02:52.620 --> 0:02:53.780 From 10 yards beyond. 0:02:54.139 --> 0:02:56.829 So as a result, Bryce young gets sacked six times, 0:02:57.130 --> 0:03:00.210 but he also has only one completion of 10 yards 0:03:00.270 --> 0:03:03.450 or more downfield. And the way the season started bone 0:03:03.510 --> 0:03:07.109 in his first five games, he was one of the 0:03:07.169 --> 0:03:10.510 best in the league at completing passes, 10 or more 0:03:10.570 --> 0:03:11.660 yards downfield. 0:03:11.740 --> 0:03:13.760 So it's freaking ugly. 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:17.420 And it's so ugly bone that you legit, I legitimately 0:03:17.480 --> 0:03:21.160 find myself asking, is this something that just can't get 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:26.240 any better? Like, Rasheed Walker's playing so badly. Monroe Freeling 0:03:26.260 --> 0:03:30.840 got abused last night. Luke Fortner is struggling. Like, is 0:03:30.870 --> 0:03:35.050 there any way to turn this around? Are we just 0:03:35.130 --> 0:03:36.770 going to see this every damn week? 0:03:36.810 --> 0:03:39.790 Remember how much praise, Mac, we gave in recent years 0:03:39.810 --> 0:03:42.250 to how good the offensive line coaching was. So I 0:03:42.250 --> 0:03:44.390 know people are pointing to coaching, but we praised the 0:03:44.430 --> 0:03:46.730 hell out of the job they did in the past. 0:03:47.270 --> 0:03:50.470 This year's just completely falling apart. Mac, we have a 0:03:50.510 --> 0:03:55.050 text here from Woodlebop. Bebop's daughter. Uh-oh, yeah. Y'all better 0:03:55.110 --> 0:03:57.730 put on your seatbelts this morning. Bebop is off his 0:03:57.790 --> 0:04:00.340 leash and has been warming up his thumbs this morning. 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:04.120 The Panthers gave him tons of material for today. They lost, 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.840 probably struggled. Prepare for impact. So I asked Mac, how 0:04:07.860 --> 0:04:10.540 do you handle your father? What's the advice? Are you 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:14.720 ready for this, Mac? Honestly, talking about him amps him 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:18.520 up even more. He records whatever his name is brought 0:04:18.540 --> 0:04:21.460 up on the air and sends it to the family 0:04:21.500 --> 0:04:23.200 group chat every single day. 0:04:23.220 --> 0:04:24.240 You know what? 0:04:24.339 --> 0:04:26.660 All of you that said we're feeding the trolls too much, 0:04:26.779 --> 0:04:28.680 we got to stop feeding Bob. 0:04:28.700 --> 0:04:30.839 He records the show on his phone. 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:33.990 This dude's walking on sunshine because we're whining about him, man. 0:04:34.050 --> 0:04:36.290 He's winning. This is a good tip here. 0:04:36.570 --> 0:04:39.210 She also says tell him to focus on work so 0:04:39.250 --> 0:04:40.529 he can retire instead. 0:04:40.290 --> 0:04:42.110 Of texting a dang radio show. I tell him every 0:04:42.130 --> 0:04:42.690 day to go to work. 0:04:42.690 --> 0:04:45.990 To work and that like clockwork speaking of trolls tampa 0:04:46.010 --> 0:04:50.430 tammy shows up outside the damn studio holy crap this 0:04:50.450 --> 0:04:54.510 is a nightmare on midstream by the way i'm convinced 0:04:54.570 --> 0:04:57.529 tampa tammy could get two sacks opposite rashid walker if 0:04:57.550 --> 0:04:59.089 she was if she lined up at pass. 0:04:58.930 --> 0:05:01.110 Rusher clemson's on the phone they want to talk to you. 0:05:00.970 --> 0:05:04.470 For my god all right anyway so I it's, it's 0:05:04.630 --> 0:05:09.060 very hard bone to blame anything outside of she's giving 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:12.480 us L's again. It's very, we got to accept your L's. It's, 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:15.320 it's very hard to blame anything bone outside of the 0:05:15.420 --> 0:05:19.120 offensive line and the situation or offensive lines in the 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.780 cornerback injuries too. You're down to your fifth, sixth and 0:05:22.860 --> 0:05:25.600 seventh corners. And you're trying to go against Jordan love 0:05:26.060 --> 0:05:29.760 and those two wide receivers. It's, it's very hard not 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:31.860 to start in those two areas. 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:32.180 Yeah. 0:05:32.580 --> 0:05:35.290 You know, there's no doubt. Yeah. And we said when 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:40.570 the show began, it's yes. On Sunday in the Monday show, 0:05:40.950 --> 0:05:43.740 the defense was the story. It was horrible. It was awful. 0:05:44.060 --> 0:05:46.979 There was no way around that. I didn't go into 0:05:47.020 --> 0:05:49.860 this game back with the defense. corners that were out 0:05:50.220 --> 0:05:52.200 with the way that Green Bay plays. I didn't go 0:05:52.250 --> 0:05:54.390 in here thinking, Oh my God, this is a good 0:05:54.430 --> 0:05:57.330 spot for the defense. I knew that Watson was going 0:05:57.350 --> 0:05:59.150 to have a huge day. I didn't know he was 0:05:59.170 --> 0:06:01.320 going to leave in an ambulance and come back. Like 0:06:01.339 --> 0:06:03.000 he was on Monday night raw back in 1999, but, 0:06:04.140 --> 0:06:07.140 I didn't see that happening. But the defense having problems 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:10.460 with what's out there, losing willy during the game, that's 0:06:10.540 --> 0:06:13.589 not shocking that Green Bay scored points. The fact that 0:06:13.630 --> 0:06:16.870 the offense stalled out and the offensive line was as 0:06:16.930 --> 0:06:19.950 bad as they were for most of the game, that 0:06:19.970 --> 0:06:22.650 to me. So we've got the defense from Sunday. We 0:06:22.670 --> 0:06:26.610 got the offense yesterday. It has been one long week 0:06:26.970 --> 0:06:27.810 of football hell. 0:06:27.940 --> 0:06:29.440 I can't believe we have to do another one of 0:06:29.460 --> 0:06:32.980 these miserable shows within the same dang week. Thank you, Panthers. 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.980 As far as the O-line bone, 47%— At least Todd 0:06:36.020 --> 0:06:40.180 Reed gave us a break yesterday. 47% pressures allowed by 0:06:40.220 --> 0:06:43.849 the O-line. Six sacks. It's 11 sacks in the last 0:06:43.950 --> 0:06:47.570 two games. I said this earlier. The craziest thing about 0:06:47.589 --> 0:06:50.330 it is— and they did blitz a fair amount once they 0:06:50.370 --> 0:06:53.110 smelled blood in the water. But the craziest part about 0:06:53.130 --> 0:06:55.130 it is five of the six sacks, Bone, were without 0:06:55.150 --> 0:06:58.320 a blitz. Hell, one of them was a damn three-man rush. We— 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.960 on Sunday, we gave up five sacks. All of them 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.000 were without the blitz. They're not even needing the blitz 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:11.840 to get home and to sack Bryce. Bryce looks shell-shocked 0:07:11.900 --> 0:07:15.790 at times. He doesn't look near the same trying to 0:07:15.850 --> 0:07:20.170 escape the pressure. Brad Idzik really seemed like a coordinator 0:07:20.450 --> 0:07:24.590 that had very few answers last night, Boney. It's just, 0:07:24.730 --> 0:07:27.730 I just fear for this offense moving forward. Thank God 0:07:27.750 --> 0:07:30.790 for Chuba Hubbard, man. He was the one consistent in 0:07:30.810 --> 0:07:32.150 the game yesterday on offense. 0:07:32.190 --> 0:07:32.670 That was it. 0:07:32.970 --> 0:07:36.280 And for anyone that's complained about Icky, Icky's making himself 0:07:36.300 --> 0:07:38.500 some money here, as Kyle Bailey tweeted out last night. 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:40.820 Icky might be one of the MVPs of this team 0:07:40.860 --> 0:07:44.620 and not play it down this year. I mean, my God, 0:07:44.660 --> 0:07:47.480 do we miss Icky? Even someone tweeted out last night, 0:07:47.500 --> 0:07:50.210 can Stone Forsythe be that bad? 0:07:50.390 --> 0:07:53.350 We're getting a lot of ideas here of what to 0:07:53.390 --> 0:07:56.990 do with the offensive line. DVR Dave wants Sam Heck 0:07:57.030 --> 0:07:59.910 to start at center and Fortner to replace Hunt at 0:07:59.990 --> 0:08:00.570 right guard. 0:08:01.190 --> 0:08:03.490 Fortner is a huge problem in his own right. 0:08:04.450 --> 0:08:07.119 Did we not see him get steamrolled the first drive 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:07.580 last night? 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:09.860 I mean, I saw him. It wasn't just one drive. 0:08:09.940 --> 0:08:10.920 I saw him. 0:08:11.260 --> 0:08:13.360 He gave up three or four pressures, at least himself 0:08:13.460 --> 0:08:16.940 as well, not to mention the run blocking issues with him. 0:08:18.340 --> 0:08:21.400 But I think Willie P's shout about Brady Christensen is 0:08:21.580 --> 0:08:25.990 one worth trying. Hey, guys, but they clearly don't value 0:08:26.030 --> 0:08:27.430 Brady Christensen like the fans do. 0:08:28.350 --> 0:08:30.930 No, no, no, they don't. They bring him back, but 0:08:30.950 --> 0:08:34.290 they keep bringing him back, but we're not sure what 0:08:34.330 --> 0:08:35.700 exactly they are using him for. 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.340 I mean, he's healthy, and they haven't activated him off IR, 0:08:38.380 --> 0:08:41.700 so I don't know if that'll change. Welcome Down says, 0:08:41.740 --> 0:08:45.400 the pocket collapses right when Bryce drops back. I can't 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:49.199 blame him. John said, Mac just said it. Bryce Young 0:08:49.260 --> 0:08:53.189 mentally is not handling this situation. But like walk them 0:08:53.230 --> 0:08:56.210 down said though, it's hard. It has to be mentioned 0:08:56.730 --> 0:09:00.060 because Bryce handled pressure so well bone early in the season. 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.600 It does need to be mentioned that this looks more 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.940 like under pressure Bryce from early in his career, but 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:11.620 it also needs to be said that It's hard to 0:09:12.020 --> 0:09:14.340 just scream at him this morning. 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:18.000 I mean, he's just under siege. You've got a perfect 0:09:18.059 --> 0:09:21.060 storm of problems here. You've got the offensive line injuries. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.840 You've got guys just not playing well. You have Bryce 0:09:24.900 --> 0:09:29.480 Mack where something's bothering him physically. He's mentally damaged in 0:09:29.500 --> 0:09:32.370 the moment because of the offensive line. And oh, by 0:09:32.380 --> 0:09:35.010 the way, we're at the point in the season where 0:09:35.050 --> 0:09:37.370 the film is out there now and teams have adjusted 0:09:37.690 --> 0:09:40.270 to what the Panthers offense that was clicking earlier is doing. 0:09:40.650 --> 0:09:42.890 Now the Panthers have to figure out a way to 0:09:42.929 --> 0:09:45.410 counter back. But if the offensive line is that bad, 0:09:45.690 --> 0:09:47.610 how do you counter back if you can't even get 0:09:47.650 --> 0:09:50.800 plays off? These are the questions that will keep the 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.980 coaches up at night and probably all of us. Papa 0:09:54.020 --> 0:09:57.430 John's 50% says you cannot say you were. I thought 0:09:57.470 --> 0:09:59.460 you were doing a promo. for me. 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:00.860 No, I got nothing for you. 0:10:01.020 --> 0:10:03.439 I thought all of a sudden you were Papa John's 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:04.260 promotional guy. 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.240 That's a weird text name, but that's the guy's... I 0:10:06.260 --> 0:10:08.630 don't know. He's probably a Papa John's manager planting the 0:10:08.670 --> 0:10:11.210 seed and everybody will buy Papa John's pizza. But anyway, 0:10:11.230 --> 0:10:13.850 he says you cannot say that you were surprised that 0:10:13.870 --> 0:10:16.910 the offensive line got destroyed last night. We're down three 0:10:16.950 --> 0:10:20.100 starters and our third best left tackle... to help out 0:10:20.130 --> 0:10:23.300 the right side, and our center is trash. When four 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.620 of your five starting line have issues, it's not going 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.720 to be a good day. No, we knew we were 0:10:29.740 --> 0:10:32.960 worried about it coming in. I will say this, though. 0:10:33.340 --> 0:10:37.449 Can we not talk about what Brad Idsit can possibly do? 0:10:37.890 --> 0:10:40.910 Because Fitty and I each, I thought, gave suggestions that 0:10:40.950 --> 0:10:43.610 are worthwhile in the first hour of the show. I 0:10:43.650 --> 0:10:45.910 want to move the pocket more. I want to move 0:10:45.950 --> 0:10:49.270 Bryce Young more. I think they tried the quick passing game. 0:10:49.290 --> 0:10:52.120 I think they tried to run it. These were suggestions 0:10:52.140 --> 0:10:56.040 that I had yesterday before the game. I'd like to 0:10:56.059 --> 0:10:58.520 see them move Bryce more. And Fitty brought up a 0:10:58.540 --> 0:11:00.580 good point. And I'll have to watch for it on 0:11:00.620 --> 0:11:04.179 a rewatch. But, like, you brought up Fitty. Like, how 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:07.059 much help were they giving? These tackles clearly got their 0:11:07.140 --> 0:11:10.600 asses kicked. Next Gen Stats had the tackles giving up 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:14.199 four of the six sacks and 13 of the 22 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.849 total pressures. But I think you brought up a good point. 0:11:18.530 --> 0:11:20.199 I don't know which one you're getting help for. I 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:21.140 guess Rasheed Walker. 0:11:22.480 --> 0:11:22.760 Right? 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:23.819 Is that what you're asking for? 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:26.320 Yeah, the problem is, Mac, is they both need help, 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.230 but you can't afford to be in 13 personnel every 0:11:29.260 --> 0:11:31.660 time that you take the field. I mean, we use 0:11:31.750 --> 0:11:34.069 it more, and I know that's a trend in the league, 0:11:34.090 --> 0:11:37.189 but you can't always give both of your tackles help. 0:11:37.690 --> 0:11:39.350 Then you're sending two out in the route, I guess? 0:11:39.530 --> 0:11:40.790 Yeah, which just. 0:11:40.710 --> 0:11:42.170 Really limits what you're going to be able to do 0:11:42.190 --> 0:11:43.510 to get in the football to the guys you want 0:11:43.530 --> 0:11:45.630 to get the football to. To me, it's also like 0:11:45.650 --> 0:11:48.870 the mobile pocket thing. We just need to get Bryce moving. 0:11:50.470 --> 0:11:53.110 Mackie's standing back there, and he's like a wounded duck. 0:11:53.790 --> 0:11:55.540 He's just waiting for something bad to happen because none 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.980 of his guys can block. And then the RPO game, 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.470 they went to that on the second drive. But how 0:12:00.490 --> 0:12:03.160 many balls are getting batted down? And not to me 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.000 because Bryce is small. Not because he can't stand in 0:12:06.020 --> 0:12:08.540 the pocket and make the throws. We can't hold our 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:11.360 blocks long enough to not allow the defensive linemen to 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.210 get their hands up to impact the passing game that way. 0:12:14.270 --> 0:12:16.010 He could be Wemby back there and he didn't have 0:12:16.030 --> 0:12:16.810 time to throw the ball. 0:12:17.670 --> 0:12:19.570 No, but the batted down thing is happening. 0:12:19.630 --> 0:12:19.950 It does. 0:12:20.350 --> 0:12:22.569 I venture to say this is the most batted passes 0:12:22.610 --> 0:12:23.690 in a season, I would think. 0:12:23.830 --> 0:12:25.840 Well, that's not a Baker Mayfield's first few starts. 0:12:25.860 --> 0:12:26.900 No, I'm talking about Bryce. 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:32.130 Oh. I'm talking about Bryce himself because everybody said, oh, 0:12:32.170 --> 0:12:34.579 he's going to get passes batted down. Everybody's going to 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.179 be like Mutombo. It hadn't really happened. This year it's 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.979 been a problem, but yeah. It's not back to the 0:12:40.020 --> 0:12:43.750 drawing board bad, Mac, but this bye week, this mini 0:12:43.770 --> 0:12:46.030 bye week, the benefit of losing on a Thursday is 0:12:46.050 --> 0:12:48.650 you've got 10 days to prepare. Like it has to be, 0:12:49.070 --> 0:12:50.590 you don't think they got to go back to the 0:12:50.610 --> 0:12:52.439 drawing board. I don't think it's that bad. Like you 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:53.420 have things that you can do. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.079 Well, are you kidding me? 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:59.280 The, I'll have things that you can do. Well, the offense, Brad, it's, 0:12:59.300 --> 0:13:01.710 it needs to live at the drawing board. Like this 0:13:01.809 --> 0:13:03.370 is a, this is a state of emergency. 0:13:03.470 --> 0:13:04.550 This offense is an absolute bleep show. 0:13:04.590 --> 0:13:07.589 They better not leave the freaking facility. 0:13:07.610 --> 0:13:10.670 Whenever they land back in Lambeau, tell the wife and kids, 0:13:10.970 --> 0:13:16.420 Happy Halloween, Happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas. We're not leaving until 0:13:16.460 --> 0:13:18.860 this sorry-ass offensive line figures it out. 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.360 We're not leaving until we can be able to run 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:22.920 the ball the way we need to run the football. 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.579 So you went from don't go the drawing board to 0:13:25.620 --> 0:13:26.570 don't leave the drawing board. 0:13:26.590 --> 0:13:28.790 I was trying not to be that guy, but now 0:13:28.910 --> 0:13:30.290 it's time to be that. 0:13:30.190 --> 0:13:33.310 Guy because, Mac, let's just put it... Their season's on 0:13:33.330 --> 0:13:33.609 the line. 0:13:33.630 --> 0:13:35.570 You get mad at Belichick in April when he goes 0:13:35.630 --> 0:13:36.150 on vacation. 0:13:36.170 --> 0:13:40.920 It's an unmitigated disaster. I cannot imagine. Is this the 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.479 worst offensive line play in the history of the franchise? 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:43.739 Yes. 0:13:43.780 --> 0:13:45.040 And that's saying something. 0:13:45.059 --> 0:13:46.460 That 2010 line was pretty bad, too. 0:13:46.580 --> 0:13:49.400 It was, but I would nominate these guys to be 0:13:50.500 --> 0:13:53.530 in the discussion. It is that horrible. And I get it, 0:13:53.550 --> 0:13:56.590 there's injuries, and we'll have the conversation later today. 0:13:56.970 --> 0:13:58.569 This is the blame conversation. 0:13:59.050 --> 0:14:01.210 We will then start to add context as the show 0:14:01.230 --> 0:14:05.069 goes on and discuss, is it just injuries? Is it 0:14:05.130 --> 0:14:08.870 just shrug your shoulders and we're too injured at certain positions? 0:14:09.530 --> 0:14:09.610 Or. 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:12.750 Is that a cop out? You know, we'll have that conversation. 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:14.489 You better be at the drawing board when your next 0:14:14.550 --> 0:14:18.490 opponent is check my notes, the Denver Broncos. Not exactly 0:14:18.550 --> 0:14:21.370 a team that is easy to go against defensively here. 0:14:21.430 --> 0:14:24.170 I was just trying to stay a little positive, a 0:14:24.430 --> 0:14:25.370 little optimistic. 0:14:25.410 --> 0:14:27.590 And Mac said, you know what? Lush that. 0:14:27.830 --> 0:14:33.180 The best part though, Finney, is you said, okay, if 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.000 we're doing that, let me just rip them and do 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:36.940 my thing where I tell the coaches they can't leave 0:14:36.980 --> 0:14:37.520 the stadium. 0:14:38.420 --> 0:14:41.000 Oh, my God. God bless you, Fitty. You are treasure, Fitty. 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.900 We got a texter that says the 50% off pizza 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.260 deal is 50% off every time the Panthers give up 0:14:47.300 --> 0:14:48.220 five sacks or more. 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:48.960 Oh, my God. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.170 Oh, you're going to be eating pizza, maybe. I don't 0:14:51.190 --> 0:14:53.330 think a business could survive that bone in Charlotte. 0:14:54.210 --> 0:14:54.750 Oh, man. 0:14:54.790 --> 0:15:01.280 This dude says the offensive line stuff is overstating it. 0:15:01.850 --> 0:15:04.330 Cam Newton had way worse offensive lines than this. Is 0:15:04.350 --> 0:15:08.070 this a mitts burner? There's definitely one of them. 0:15:09.590 --> 0:15:11.650 Listen, man, we can rank to your blue in the face. 0:15:11.690 --> 0:15:16.300 We've had rough offensive line play sporadically throughout this franchise's history. 0:15:16.700 --> 0:15:19.000 I just know, man, it is going to take a 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.739 You can try to scheme around this bone, but if 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.020 they keep playing like this and you brought up some 0:15:27.060 --> 0:15:29.340 of the defenses they're going to go against, including Denver 0:15:29.380 --> 0:15:31.820 next week, I mean, there's only so much that can 0:15:31.860 --> 0:15:32.240 be done. 0:15:33.140 --> 0:15:35.760 I'm already having nightmares about them playing Minnesota and Brian 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:38.720 Flores down the line. I don't want to get too 0:15:38.740 --> 0:15:42.619 far ahead of ourselves, but that... No need for the 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.490 drawing board, though, Mac, when you're facing those teams. Just 0:15:44.500 --> 0:15:45.780 go in there and do what you do. Go in 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:47.620 there and do what you do. Oh, my God. 0:15:47.750 --> 0:15:49.850 So let's see what else people are saying here. You've 0:15:49.890 --> 0:15:54.650 got Jerry from Harrisburg. Go ahead and flush the season 0:15:54.850 --> 0:16:02.870 while you're at it. 7-0-4. Lost season. Yeah, that's going 0:16:02.890 --> 0:16:05.170 to be part of the conversation today, too, is is 0:16:05.230 --> 0:16:09.370 it just too much to overcome? I keep saying to myself, 0:16:09.630 --> 0:16:12.609 we're in the South, though. We're in the NFC South. 0:16:13.810 --> 0:16:16.030 Just keep saying it. We're in the South. We're in 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.640 the South. I'm clicking my heels together. But there's no 0:16:19.700 --> 0:16:22.420 place like the NFC South. But I don't know. I 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.420 don't know, Bone, if even that matters. Can we even 0:16:25.460 --> 0:16:27.220 win the South like this? 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:29.960 No, because if we follow the yellow brick road, Bryce 0:16:29.980 --> 0:16:32.760 will probably, you know, not have the right protection to 0:16:32.780 --> 0:16:35.540 get thrown off the yellow brick road. He'll get sandwiched 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:39.260 by some big old... Defensive player on the Elbert Grove? 0:16:39.300 --> 0:16:39.620 I don't know. 0:16:39.660 --> 0:16:42.320 I'm convinced Dorothy and Toto would each have two sacks 0:16:42.620 --> 0:16:46.760 if they played against the Panthers' offensive line. John says, oh, 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:50.680 the Bryce Young excuse parade today. Why can't you just 0:16:50.740 --> 0:16:54.700 say he can't handle good defenses? Yeah, because it was 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:56.500 all his fault. He had so much time in the 0:16:56.540 --> 0:16:58.300 pocket to heave the ball down the field last night. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.100 He had so much time. 0:17:00.300 --> 0:17:02.440 He missed a lot of open receivers out there last 0:17:02.460 --> 0:17:06.320 night that were just wide open in his 0.4 seconds 0:17:06.359 --> 0:17:09.900 in the pocket last night. If you don't see that 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:14.379 the offensive line is a problem, I suggest LensCrafters for 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:18.200 your eye needs. And that's not an endorsement by me. 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:21.100 That's just a general statement. I don't endorse LensCrafters. 0:17:21.140 --> 0:17:24.810 MoreAppHate says, are we going to have a convo about 0:17:24.850 --> 0:17:30.710 a Bryce extension? Only beaten one starting quarterback. We are 0:17:30.730 --> 0:17:32.570 going to have convos about Bryce extension. 0:17:33.140 --> 0:17:37.790 Extensions. It has to be had. There's no doubt about it. 0:17:38.470 --> 0:17:42.540 Is he losing money? I mean, What level would he 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:42.730 be on? 0:17:42.740 --> 0:17:43.260 Breaking news. 0:17:43.300 --> 0:17:45.420 Sports Radio talks about quarterback contracts. 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:46.220 That's probably a. 0:17:46.220 --> 0:17:47.840 Good thing, though, because we need to invest more in 0:17:47.859 --> 0:17:48.820 this offensive line. 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:52.440 So you want Bryce to keep sucking? Well, no. 0:17:52.460 --> 0:17:53.830 I still want him to get his contract, but maybe 0:17:53.850 --> 0:17:56.470 we're back down that $ 40 million range back as opposed 0:17:56.490 --> 0:17:57.929 to $ 55- 60 because. 0:17:57.690 --> 0:17:59.910 Dano's got to pay more offensive linemen this offseason. 0:17:59.990 --> 0:18:00.450 He does. 0:18:00.510 --> 0:18:02.790 There's no doubt about it. I would point to the draft. 0:18:02.830 --> 0:18:04.869 KB and I were talking about this last night on 0:18:04.890 --> 0:18:08.490 the pregame show. I think it could be first-round tackle again. 0:18:09.130 --> 0:18:13.250 I think it could be second-round guard again. Like, I just, 0:18:13.910 --> 0:18:16.070 this old line, you can't bring Rob Hunt back at 0:18:16.109 --> 0:18:20.989 that number. Everybody's saying, this dude's saying, give Icky the farm. 0:18:21.020 --> 0:18:25.200 I think Icky will probably have to sign a one-year 0:18:25.260 --> 0:18:26.100 prove-it deal. 0:18:26.950 --> 0:18:29.260 And let's not forget, he's also coming off a major 0:18:29.300 --> 0:18:30.680 injury himself here. 0:18:30.740 --> 0:18:34.359 But at that point, Bone, he would have almost two years, right? 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:37.200 But I'm still saying, though, he's got to come back 0:18:37.220 --> 0:18:38.760 from that and prove what he is. 0:18:38.900 --> 0:18:40.139 Yeah, he does. 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:41.580 And I don't know, will he get a chance this 0:18:41.619 --> 0:18:43.980 year to come back and prove anything? Or will it 0:18:44.010 --> 0:18:44.790 be until next year? 0:18:45.210 --> 0:18:45.950 I don't know, man. 0:18:46.130 --> 0:18:48.209 There's a full load of O-line questions, no doubt. 0:18:48.230 --> 0:18:51.690 Out icky how you feeling well i'm at about 40 great. 0:18:51.390 --> 0:18:53.030 Get on out there baby that you know what that 0:18:53.109 --> 0:18:55.450 is and icky that is three times as good as 0:18:55.490 --> 0:18:57.899 rashid walker get on out there guys i'm not ready 0:18:57.940 --> 0:19:00.600 sure you are how the heck did rashid walker keep 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:03.040 that starting job in green bay for three years. 0:19:03.260 --> 0:19:04.940 Man we got okey-doke on that well hey look at 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:07.409 this guy he's he's up for a big contract and 0:19:07.450 --> 0:19:09.770 he fell right in our laps well now we know why. 0:19:09.750 --> 0:19:12.990 But the packers never benched him Like that was a 0:19:13.070 --> 0:19:14.130 functioning offense. 0:19:14.450 --> 0:19:14.840 I don't know. 0:19:14.950 --> 0:19:16.419 So how the hell did he hold that? 0:19:16.700 --> 0:19:19.619 How did he, how on earth was he ranked 11th 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:21.240 in past block win rate last year? 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:25.090 I don't have the answer. We just never quote that 0:19:25.130 --> 0:19:25.730 stat again. 0:19:25.830 --> 0:19:28.629 I just, or did he play so much better there 0:19:28.710 --> 0:19:29.629 than he played here? 0:19:30.369 --> 0:19:31.409 And if so, why? 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.680 You know, these are the questions bone that I don't 0:19:35.700 --> 0:19:38.700 know if they have any answers, but I'm asking them anyway. 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:42.890 When we come back, Lee Sterling, paramountsports.com. He's got his 0:19:42.970 --> 0:19:45.230 picks for the week next back. Here's the good news 0:19:45.250 --> 0:19:47.030 for this. He doesn't have to pick a Panther game 0:19:47.050 --> 0:19:49.700 this week. That's already over. When he's next, Sports Radio 0:19:49.700 --> 0:19:50.119 92.7 WFNZ. 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:17.950 Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. 0:20:18.490 --> 0:20:23.149 Kumbaya, my lord. Kumbaya. 0:20:23.230 --> 0:20:27.330 Bone, the rage-baiting all-stars are putting on a show this morning. 0:20:27.950 --> 0:20:31.950 I'm telling you right now, Charlotte's rage-baiting all-stars. And they 0:20:31.990 --> 0:20:34.379 got the thumbs moving this morning, man. 0:20:34.660 --> 0:20:35.920 Somebody go pull something. 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:40.940 Starting at guard in his ninth all-star appearance. Amit. 0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.899 Amit, like, and again, at some point we need to 0:20:43.940 --> 0:20:48.780 like have nuanced conversations with real people and not like 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:52.200 rage baiting, like folks playing characters on the text line. 0:20:52.740 --> 0:20:54.850 But at the risk of not doing that right now, 0:20:55.350 --> 0:20:58.550 Amit with a straight face, I assume, is texting us. 0:20:59.070 --> 0:21:00.490 And you said he was saying the same thing on 0:21:00.810 --> 0:21:03.990 Twitter last night, saying that what's going on with the 0:21:04.050 --> 0:21:07.639 pressure is 100% Bryce Young's fault and the O-line is fine. 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.639 That O-line is about as far from fine as anything 0:21:11.680 --> 0:21:14.740 has been. I'm telling you. I'm telling you right now, 0:21:15.100 --> 0:21:18.040 like that right there, a minute, like put the phone down, 0:21:18.420 --> 0:21:20.440 like never, we should never listen to him again because 0:21:20.460 --> 0:21:23.820 that is just, that's, that is just disingenuous rage baiting. 0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:25.270 I mean, you gotta be kidding me. 0:21:25.830 --> 0:21:27.929 You had me at never listen to him again, but 0:21:27.970 --> 0:21:30.369 I would like to listen to Lee Sterling of ParamountSports.com. 0:21:30.510 --> 0:21:33.450 Look at Bones segwaying away for the rage baiting all-star game. 0:21:33.470 --> 0:21:35.570 All right, let's do it. Let's bring in a man 0:21:35.609 --> 0:21:37.669 who is not here to make you upset. He is 0:21:37.710 --> 0:21:39.550 here to make you money. That's what he's here to do. 0:21:40.330 --> 0:21:43.270 and certainly his picks, including the Game of the Week, 0:21:43.290 --> 0:21:47.270 his picks on ParamountSports.com, including the Florida State Clemson Game 0:21:47.290 --> 0:21:51.840 of the Week, are the ones that he really wants 0:21:51.859 --> 0:21:53.940 you to take and make money. Let's talk about games 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:58.200 of local interest with Lee. Lee, welcome back to the show. 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:00.700 We are in disarray after last night's game, sir. 0:22:01.900 --> 0:22:04.680 I can bet. I tried to give you guys a 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:07.139 little bit of a cushion on the fall down. If 0:22:07.180 --> 0:22:10.800 you listen to my Locked On Bets podcast, daily show 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:14.660 Monday through Friday, I had the Packers. I didn't get 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:17.600 a whole lot of joy out of picking the Panther 0:22:18.060 --> 0:22:21.129 against the Panthers, but just thought it was a bad setup. 0:22:21.170 --> 0:22:22.929 I mean, Green Bay, the last time they played on 0:22:22.970 --> 0:22:26.270 Thursday night against Atlanta got whipped. And I thought that, 0:22:26.330 --> 0:22:27.609 you know, they were going to be ready for this 0:22:27.670 --> 0:22:31.100 game and the matchups and the offensive line for Carolina 0:22:31.190 --> 0:22:35.760 did blocking. Wasn't even optional. I mean, if I was 0:22:35.780 --> 0:22:38.140 the head coach and, I would make them come into 0:22:38.180 --> 0:22:40.219 my office if they want to get their paycheck for 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:40.620 that game. 0:22:42.109 --> 0:22:44.450 And I would say, if you can get through these 0:22:44.550 --> 0:22:47.629 live Panthers in my office, the paycheck's right on the 0:22:47.670 --> 0:22:48.290 other side of them. 0:22:48.609 --> 0:22:49.129 Good luck. 0:22:49.930 --> 0:22:52.690 They basically could have played without an offensive line last 0:22:52.710 --> 0:22:54.850 night and had the same results. 0:22:55.670 --> 0:22:57.290 I feel sorry for Bryce Young. 0:22:57.350 --> 0:22:58.250 That's what I'm saying. 0:22:59.020 --> 0:23:02.060 Luckily, I was on very good teams. I don't think 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:04.750 I ever had a game... Where was he sacked? Five 0:23:04.770 --> 0:23:05.629 or six times last night? 0:23:05.750 --> 0:23:08.830 Six last night, five on Sunday. 0:23:09.609 --> 0:23:14.330 Never that bad in any one game. So I'd love 0:23:14.390 --> 0:23:16.800 to commiserate with him, but I just can't do it. 0:23:16.850 --> 0:23:17.850 Never had a line that bad in one game. 0:23:18.130 --> 0:23:20.080 You had some good big uglies in front of you. 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:23.240 Let's talk about some of these games. We'll start on 0:23:23.260 --> 0:23:27.060 the college side. Bone was talking about earlier that this 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:29.520 is an interesting game. Boston College is playing some pretty 0:23:29.540 --> 0:23:31.920 good ball today. the last couple of weeks in wins 0:23:31.980 --> 0:23:35.199 over Pitt and Georgia tech. So to see Duke and 0:23:35.260 --> 0:23:37.750 it is at home, but as a seven or even 0:23:37.850 --> 0:23:40.570 some places, seven and a half point favorite, like I 0:23:40.609 --> 0:23:43.669 like Duke, but that BC points is kind of tempting. 0:23:43.690 --> 0:23:44.190 What do you think? 0:23:45.030 --> 0:23:47.840 Yeah. BC quarterback, Mason McKenzie is a winner, plain and 0:23:47.859 --> 0:23:51.340 simple playmaker. The kid just doesn't give up. Is he 0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:54.840 an NFL quarterback? No, probably not, but he gets the 0:23:54.859 --> 0:23:56.600 job done and he's going to find a way to 0:23:56.640 --> 0:24:00.000 keep his team in it. And, If they give him 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:03.399 enough time to throw the football and his receivers and 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.530 running backs comply, I think they're going to be there. 0:24:05.550 --> 0:24:09.189 The Eagles have won two straight, are improved. They are 0:24:09.230 --> 0:24:12.650 a middling ACC team. They've struggled to stop the run, 0:24:12.690 --> 0:24:15.110 and we know that's all Duke is pretty much going 0:24:15.130 --> 0:24:18.010 to do. But how healthy is Nate Shepard here? I mean, 0:24:18.430 --> 0:24:22.430 we've seen declining production now in five straight games. Both 0:24:22.470 --> 0:24:26.340 teams are statistically sound against the pass, so This has 0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:30.790 the makings for some ugliness. I think Duke wins here, 26-23, 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:32.900 but I'm picking Boston College in the points. 0:24:33.660 --> 0:24:37.460 Lee, another ACC game tomorrow, the red-hot Wake Forest Demon 0:24:37.500 --> 0:24:42.730 Deacons hosting Virginia. Wake, 12.5-point favorites. What's the right side 0:24:42.790 --> 0:24:43.270 in this one? 0:24:44.670 --> 0:24:50.890 So, Wake right now is flat out better than Virginia. 0:24:51.070 --> 0:24:56.340 Their skill positions, quarterback Gio Lopez sitting– with a, I'm 0:24:56.359 --> 0:25:03.020 going to say, a sterling 17-1 touchdown-to-interception ratio. They have 0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:06.960 extra rest. I think they have better schemes here. Wake 0:25:07.010 --> 0:25:10.390 continues on its path to the ACC championship game here. 0:25:10.869 --> 0:25:14.950 Virginia has lost two road games by 10 and 31 points. 0:25:15.390 --> 0:25:18.689 Their neutral side game they lost by 11. In the 0:25:18.730 --> 0:25:22.649 last month, UVA offense, only 12 points per game in 0:25:22.670 --> 0:25:27.740 the three ACC losses. And Bo Probilla, just 171 passing 0:25:27.780 --> 0:25:30.909 yards per game and 23 rushing yards per game. He 0:25:30.990 --> 0:25:36.390 is not 100% healthy. And until Tony Elliott replaces Probilla 0:25:36.430 --> 0:25:39.600 with Eli Holstein, it's pretty unlikely they're going to improve 0:25:39.630 --> 0:25:43.580 or compete here. Wake 6-1 straight up and 5-2 against 0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:48.550 the spread. Wake wins easy again here. Blowout special. Wake 41-20. 0:25:49.020 --> 0:25:49.409 There you go. 0:25:51.270 --> 0:25:52.629 I got to turn my mic on to do radio. 0:25:52.850 --> 0:25:54.930 There you go, Deke fans. There you go, Deke fans. 0:25:54.990 --> 0:25:56.580 I tend to agree with you on that one. 0:25:57.300 --> 0:26:01.500 Miami against UNC, your Canes number one in the country, 0:26:01.980 --> 0:26:07.480 rolling into Chapel Hill, an ABC primetime game. This point 0:26:07.500 --> 0:26:10.659 spread to me is very tempting to take Miami. If 0:26:10.740 --> 0:26:13.920 Miami explodes like they usually do, I don't see how 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:17.080 the heck Carolina stays in touch. It's 14 and a 0:26:17.140 --> 0:26:18.840 half for Miami on the road. 0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:19.680 What do you think? 0:26:21.450 --> 0:26:25.220 So I think Miami's good, but every team has weaknesses. 0:26:25.980 --> 0:26:30.699 And the weaknesses Miami has is they commit a lot 0:26:30.740 --> 0:26:34.240 of penalties. And the best teams, when you win championships, 0:26:34.340 --> 0:26:36.840 usually do it with defense. As great as offenses are, 0:26:37.060 --> 0:26:39.919 NFL and college football, you've got to play defense. I 0:26:39.940 --> 0:26:43.359 think their defense is above average but not great. It 0:26:43.420 --> 0:26:45.830 might get better. They're starting to get some players back. 0:26:45.869 --> 0:26:50.010 But they're committing an average of like 10.8 penalties per game. 0:26:50.369 --> 0:26:52.090 You're not going to go into Notre Dame and beat 0:26:52.109 --> 0:26:54.990 Notre Dame committing 10 to 12 penalties. So I think 0:26:55.030 --> 0:26:58.109 that's a problem here. I think as long as Billy 0:26:58.190 --> 0:27:02.189 Edwards isn't two or three touchdowns behind, he's fine. I mean, 0:27:02.210 --> 0:27:04.690 he played at Maryland, Wisconsin. You look at his whole 0:27:04.750 --> 0:27:07.350 body of work. But when he falls behind, it's trouble. 0:27:08.369 --> 0:27:11.190 Bill Belichick, I think, is going to try. You can't 0:27:11.230 --> 0:27:14.889 take away Tony. No way. I mean, he's that good. 0:27:14.950 --> 0:27:18.150 He's unguardable one-on-one. So I think he's going to bracket 0:27:18.190 --> 0:27:22.910 it and double-team him. almost on every single play, but 0:27:23.150 --> 0:27:25.520 they're going to throw different looks at Miami, and I 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.600 think as a night game on the road, I think 0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:30.660 Miami's going to struggle a little bit. I've seen games 0:27:30.700 --> 0:27:33.710 there where it didn't go well, where they lost, where 0:27:33.750 --> 0:27:35.469 they had to pull it out late in the game here. 0:27:35.530 --> 0:27:38.670 I think Miami wins 35-24, but I think the right 0:27:38.710 --> 0:27:40.550 side here is take North Carolina in the 14 and 0:27:40.570 --> 0:27:40.770 a half. 0:27:41.109 --> 0:27:41.449 Dang! 0:27:41.470 --> 0:27:42.270 How about that? 0:27:42.290 --> 0:27:45.010 How about that? A cover fit, daddy! He thinks y'all 0:27:45.070 --> 0:27:45.810 are covering, baby! 0:27:45.850 --> 0:27:49.669 How about that? Lee, a fascinating matchup in the NFC 0:27:49.790 --> 0:27:54.129 on Sunday. Really, I mean, with the Jeffrey Simmons addition 0:27:54.530 --> 0:27:57.580 to the Bears the rest of the way after this week, 0:27:57.950 --> 0:28:02.980 Seahawks-Bears could be an NFC championship preview. Seahawks favored by three. 0:28:03.380 --> 0:28:04.359 What's the right play here? 0:28:05.369 --> 0:28:07.869 Yeah, I think that the Seahawks are going to be 0:28:07.890 --> 0:28:10.970 a tough out. I think that they're running back away 0:28:11.230 --> 0:28:13.900 that close to being as good as last year. So 0:28:14.100 --> 0:28:16.980 they ended up getting Quentin Nelson, maybe one of the 0:28:17.020 --> 0:28:20.179 best running back. I mean, one of the best offensive linemen. 0:28:20.220 --> 0:28:24.400 I think that's going to help them think that this team, 0:28:24.420 --> 0:28:28.280 this defense is special. Tough place to play. Zach Charbonneau 0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:29.960 is going to be back for this game. So we're 0:28:29.980 --> 0:28:32.430 going to see how he does. I don't think he's 0:28:32.470 --> 0:28:36.080 the final answer at running back, but Good complementary piece. 0:28:36.700 --> 0:28:39.520 He's coming off a knee injury, so he'll probably be 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:42.480 on a pitch cap. But what separates them also, besides 0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:47.160 their defense, is special teams. Michael Dixon, punter, incredible. I mean, 0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:49.900 the way he drops that ball inside the 10-yard line 0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:52.770 like no one else. And their place kicker, Jason Myers, 0:28:52.830 --> 0:28:57.070 pretty much money inside 60 yards here. The right team 0:28:57.130 --> 0:28:58.600 is favored here, Seattle, 23-13. 0:29:00.250 --> 0:29:04.510 All right, Lee, let's get to an NFC South battle. 0:29:04.610 --> 0:29:06.950 I guess I'm rooting. I guess we should root bone 0:29:06.970 --> 0:29:10.610 for the Bucs. If the Bucs beat the Falcons, then 0:29:10.670 --> 0:29:13.670 the Panthers have a half game lead still in the division. 0:29:13.690 --> 0:29:16.520 So I guess I'm rooting for that. I'm not sure 0:29:16.540 --> 0:29:17.820 it matters with this O-line. 0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:20.000 We are the hand coming up from the ground on 0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:22.200 this Halloween weekend. 0:29:22.600 --> 0:29:25.980 What do you think, Lee? Bucs are favored by two 0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:27.780 against Atlanta. What's your feelings? 0:29:28.690 --> 0:29:32.920 So Baker Mayfield holds grudges and still mad at Kevin Stefanski, 0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:36.060 hasn't talked to him in over five years since he 0:29:36.100 --> 0:29:39.510 was traded away. So that, I think, plays into this 0:29:39.570 --> 0:29:42.430 game here. also Atlanta's first four games the run D 0:29:42.470 --> 0:29:45.710 faced only 21 22 9 and 18 running plays since 0:29:45.770 --> 0:29:50.930 then 35 and 33 rushes here and uh given up 0:29:50.990 --> 0:29:54.340 a lot of yards given up over 5.8 yards per 0:29:54.380 --> 0:29:58.040 carry uh during that time so I think Tampa Bay's 0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:00.459 going to find a way. Their defense also coming on. 0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:04.300 I think they win this game here 23-20. Not going 0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.400 to be easy, but I think Tampa Bay's the right side. 0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:10.820 And let me give you a little advice for offensive 0:30:10.860 --> 0:30:13.030 linemen that don't block. I did say this to one 0:30:13.070 --> 0:30:15.510 of my linemen one time when he ducked when he 0:30:15.530 --> 0:30:20.170 was facing a former future Miami offensive lineman he wanted 0:30:20.190 --> 0:30:23.350 to know part of. I said, listen. Do one thing. 0:30:23.730 --> 0:30:26.190 If you're not willing to block him, lay down, and 0:30:26.210 --> 0:30:27.190 he might trip over you. 0:30:28.650 --> 0:30:31.130 You know what? We're going to pass that along here locally, Lee. 0:30:31.150 --> 0:30:33.470 We're going to pass that advice along locally. 0:30:33.490 --> 0:30:37.260 Lee, you've been sizzling like bacon on your player props. 0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:40.210 You had Kenneth Walker under last week. You've not missed 0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.970 one yet since we started this. Give us a player 0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:44.120 prop this week, if you don't mind. 0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:48.100 Yeah, player prop is going to be Patrick Mahomes over 0:30:48.100 --> 0:30:50.440 13 and a half rushing yards. So here's the thinking 0:30:50.500 --> 0:30:54.130 behind this player prop. Denver's pass rush comes from the edges. 0:30:54.450 --> 0:30:58.300 Great edge rushers, defensive ends. They blitz cornerbacks a lot. 0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.340 So he needs to step up in the pocket. Now, 0:31:01.380 --> 0:31:03.620 the first game, he did go over it, believe it 0:31:03.660 --> 0:31:06.300 or not, even though they're running the football like crazy 0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:10.290 with Kenneth Walker. So he has been over four times 0:31:10.310 --> 0:31:12.930 that rushing total. I think he's fine if you look 0:31:12.970 --> 0:31:15.870 at his knee. His receiver is just getting no separation. 0:31:15.910 --> 0:31:18.080 I think they're going to tell him Patrick. We lost 0:31:18.140 --> 0:31:20.970 last week. We need a win here. It's an interdivision game. 0:31:21.330 --> 0:31:24.950 We're 5-1. Denver's 5-2. Just step up in the pocket. 0:31:25.390 --> 0:31:28.060 If you find your second guy, fine. If not, take off. 0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:31.920 Get us the first down. So Patrick Mahomes, over 13.5 0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:34.180 rushing yards. That's a lock. 0:31:34.900 --> 0:31:37.120 There you go, baby. There you go. People are asking 0:31:37.140 --> 0:31:38.200 for the props. They get them. 0:31:39.030 --> 0:31:41.770 So now we do have some fans that are like, hey, 0:31:41.810 --> 0:31:44.130 I want to hear what Lee thinks about Florida State 0:31:44.150 --> 0:31:44.690 and Clemson. 0:31:44.710 --> 0:31:47.090 Well, that happens to be your game of the week. 0:31:47.570 --> 0:31:49.390 So tell them how they can get that one. And 0:31:49.410 --> 0:31:51.830 then I know you got a big card this weekend 0:31:52.050 --> 0:31:54.420 as well. So tell them what they need to know, Lee, 0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:55.020 for your picks. 0:31:55.940 --> 0:31:58.700 Both these coaches are on the hot seat, Florida State 0:31:58.740 --> 0:32:01.060 and Clemson. So you want to find out who's going 0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:02.720 to take this game. Just be one of the first 0:32:03.420 --> 0:32:07.840 five callers. Just call 800-400-9741. Give your Florida State and 0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:11.570 Clemson on me. So we are rolling. We've won eight 0:32:11.630 --> 0:32:13.990 out of nine weeks so far in the football season. 0:32:14.330 --> 0:32:17.430 And my NFL game of the year goes on Sunday. 0:32:17.890 --> 0:32:21.030 How good have we been the last two Sundays? Just 4-0, 0:32:21.430 --> 0:32:24.340 back-to-back Sundays. So if you want to hop on board, 0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:28.960 just one place. It's a 50-unit McFoyager NFL game of 0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:32.070 the year program. paramountsports.com there you go. 0:32:31.910 --> 0:32:34.020 Lee good luck this week man we will talk to 0:32:34.060 --> 0:32:36.380 you next week brother Thanks, guys. 0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:36.780 Be safe. 0:32:36.910 --> 0:32:37.580 All right, be good. 0:32:37.620 --> 0:32:37.980 There you go. 0:32:38.020 --> 0:32:39.270 Lee Sterling joining us, man. 0:32:39.300 --> 0:32:41.200 We will be safe, Lee. We're going to put ourselves 0:32:41.260 --> 0:32:44.140 in our abodes all weekend and not come outside. For 0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:45.520 fear we might get hit by a Packer. 0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:49.360 Lee has the Tar Heel fans texted in right now. 0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:51.500 Tar Heel fans get a little frisky. They're on the 0:32:51.620 --> 0:32:54.120 only lose by 11 wagon. You've got a texter here 0:32:54.160 --> 0:32:57.800 who is conjuring. Now, he says, Finney, tell me if 0:32:57.820 --> 0:33:01.080 you heard this before. UNC has a number one ranked 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:04.280 Miami team come into Kenan, and they pull off the win. 0:33:04.820 --> 0:33:06.550 That team, I think was ranked fourth. 0:33:07.330 --> 0:33:09.530 Cause, cause they were number four. 0:33:09.570 --> 0:33:11.730 That's the highest ranked team. The heels have beaten the 0:33:11.810 --> 0:33:15.370 only top five team they beaten. But I see what 0:33:15.390 --> 0:33:19.060 you're saying. And then complainer in chief bone says 28, 0:33:19.060 --> 0:33:23.940 24 heels are interior D line. is going to make 0:33:23.980 --> 0:33:26.760 it hard for the quarterback to get the ball out. 0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:28.740 I like the way he just calls him the quarterback. 0:33:29.260 --> 0:33:31.860 You're going to call him Mr. Mensah by Saturday. He 0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:34.240 might not have even watched Miami all year, to be honest. 0:33:34.380 --> 0:33:36.960 I don't think he has because what makes Miami so 0:33:37.020 --> 0:33:39.020 difficult to defend is how quickly. 0:33:38.780 --> 0:33:40.080 They get the ball out of his hands. 0:33:40.140 --> 0:33:41.340 Yeah, yeah. 0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.280 And also, like, Matt, Mensah doesn't turn the ball over. 0:33:44.300 --> 0:33:47.620 He's got a 22-to-1 touchdown-interception ratio. 0:33:47.640 --> 0:33:49.240 I know, it's ridiculous, man. 0:33:49.300 --> 0:33:53.070 And you're going to need multiple turnovers– Like, if Carolina's 0:33:53.090 --> 0:33:55.729 going to win the game tomorrow night, it's going to 0:33:55.750 --> 0:33:59.910 be just as much Miami beating themselves as Carolina beating Miami. 0:33:59.930 --> 0:34:01.070 That's what you're going to need. 0:34:01.110 --> 0:34:04.030 We don't have the horses yet to compete with. This 0:34:04.130 --> 0:34:05.830 might be the best team in college football. 0:34:06.330 --> 0:34:10.480 No doubt. You're not going from a loss to Syracuse 0:34:10.580 --> 0:34:14.640 at home to beating Miami. Can you compete? That's a question. 0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:17.640 But beating Miami? Not only does Mensah not turn it over, 0:34:18.060 --> 0:34:19.360 he didn't even put the ball on the ground. 0:34:19.380 --> 0:34:19.500 Yeah. 0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:20.480 It's true. 0:34:20.500 --> 0:34:23.600 It's not even turnaround. No incompletions hardly for him. It's true. 0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.279 This dude says you double Tony and take him away. Well, 0:34:26.300 --> 0:34:28.730 then Barkay might go off. And you can shut them down. 0:34:29.650 --> 0:34:33.350 In the words of Bill Belichick, he beats double teams. Also, 0:34:33.510 --> 0:34:35.510 you double him and he gets open anyway. 0:34:35.550 --> 0:34:39.230 Have you seen our secondary guy? Our secondary is the 0:34:39.250 --> 0:34:41.049 equivalent of the Panthers' offensive line right now. 0:34:41.590 --> 0:34:43.549 Outside of Jaden Patterson, it's not good. 0:34:43.670 --> 0:34:47.040 No Trey Miller, no Peyton Waters. You do get cost back, 0:34:47.100 --> 0:34:47.680 it looks like. 0:34:47.739 --> 0:34:50.320 Yeah, that was big to see him on the injury report. 0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.359 I mean, like Greg Smith, he's been the best player 0:34:53.380 --> 0:34:57.250 for Carolina all year. Made a play that cost Carolina 0:34:57.270 --> 0:34:58.190 the game in a lot of ways. 0:34:58.390 --> 0:34:58.629 Yeah. 0:34:58.850 --> 0:35:00.430 Just because he tried to go make a play on 0:35:00.450 --> 0:35:01.569 the ball, then he didn't make a play on the ball, 0:35:01.590 --> 0:35:02.370 got lost in the lights. 0:35:03.260 --> 0:35:03.739 How you doing? 0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:04.319 I don't know. 0:35:04.340 --> 0:35:06.140 I hope I'm wrong. I hope UNC can put on 0:35:06.180 --> 0:35:09.710 a good show and can push them. But, man, it 0:35:09.770 --> 0:35:10.470 feels daunting. 0:35:10.670 --> 0:35:13.910 It does. When we come back here on the Mac 0:35:14.030 --> 0:35:16.009 and Bone Show, thanks to Lee Stern for coming on. 0:35:16.290 --> 0:35:20.129 It was a rough night against... The Packers last night 0:35:20.170 --> 0:35:23.410 for Bryce. Do we blame it all on the big uglies? 0:35:24.050 --> 0:35:27.390 Or was Bryce simply not getting it done either? A 0:35:27.489 --> 0:35:30.850 full blame discussion for the first time since the top 0:35:30.890 --> 0:35:33.430 of the 7 o'clock hour on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. 0:35:51.060 --> 0:35:51.340 Maybe. 0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:54.200 I would say that he certainly doesn't look like he's 0:35:54.219 --> 0:35:57.239 got that quick-make-you-miss type of deal, but he was able 0:35:57.260 --> 0:36:00.500 to create some space for himself. But the rush got 0:36:00.580 --> 0:36:02.520 after us, and that's the bottom line, is we've got 0:36:02.540 --> 0:36:04.400 to take care of that first part of it so 0:36:04.420 --> 0:36:05.799 we have an element of time to be able to 0:36:05.880 --> 0:36:06.540 execute the play. 0:36:08.460 --> 0:36:12.180 That is Dave Canales asked about Bryce's knee, which he 0:36:12.219 --> 0:36:15.359 has a brace on. And as we try to figure out, 0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:18.320 how was Bryce dancing around the pressure for the first 0:36:18.390 --> 0:36:22.600 five games? And the last two, it's more pressure. But 0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:25.819 how is he not able to evade the rush? He 0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:28.340 just doesn't look like he can get away from it 0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:32.500 as easy. And Dave Canales would not rule that out 0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:35.100 yesterday when asked about it. 0:36:35.140 --> 0:36:39.500 Because I think there's physical problems. Also, I think there's 0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:43.380 mental stuff here. Because, Matt, he is so now having 0:36:43.420 --> 0:36:45.980 to look at what is coming around him. from a 0:36:46.020 --> 0:36:49.430 defensive standpoint, who might hit him rather than seeing the 0:36:49.530 --> 0:36:52.150 field like he was so well for a while. And 0:36:52.170 --> 0:36:54.930 that's why he looks like rookie Bryce. He's getting hit 0:36:54.989 --> 0:36:57.930 so much that he's now looking at the rush and 0:36:57.989 --> 0:37:00.430 not TMAC and Coker and these other guys like he 0:37:00.450 --> 0:37:01.239 was doing so well. 0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:05.219 100%. Herbstreet mentioned it. And this is, and this is 0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:08.560 a conversation. I would like it to be nuanced, but 0:37:08.620 --> 0:37:11.799 I'm not sure bone that assignment can be carried out, 0:37:12.260 --> 0:37:15.359 but like how much blame does Bryce really deserve? I mean, 0:37:15.380 --> 0:37:17.620 it all starts with the pressure up front. It all 0:37:17.660 --> 0:37:22.520 starts with injuries to the O-line underperforming guys like Rasheed Walker, 0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:26.010 who was at least serviceable and solid in Green Bay, 0:37:26.110 --> 0:37:30.230 playing like this. Robert Hunt playing completely unlike the Robert 0:37:30.250 --> 0:37:33.980 Hunt we knew from his first year here. But what 0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.940 do we think about Bryce in terms of blame? Herbie 0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:39.239 said it last night. It was on the fourth down 0:37:39.300 --> 0:37:42.629 play bone where we got the ball back down one score. 0:37:42.890 --> 0:37:43.690 It was a miracle. 0:37:44.090 --> 0:37:46.069 Got the ball back down one score at our own 0:37:46.070 --> 0:37:49.469 45 with great field position. Defense did a hell of 0:37:49.510 --> 0:37:52.900 a job, Bone, late in that game. Interception and three 0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:56.720 punts forced in the last four drives. And I'm thinking, okay, 0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.400 can we somehow pull something out of this miraculously? 0:37:59.880 --> 0:38:00.760 It was fourth down. 0:38:01.380 --> 0:38:03.950 And it was right after the run play on third 0:38:03.969 --> 0:38:05.590 and seven that a lot of Panther fans have texted 0:38:05.610 --> 0:38:09.380 about today and didn't like. But Bryce, Herbie mentioned it. 0:38:09.770 --> 0:38:12.969 Bryce moves and didn't have to. The pressure really wasn't there. 0:38:13.010 --> 0:38:16.189 The protection held up. But to your point, Bryce Young 0:38:16.270 --> 0:38:19.850 is feeling pressure. He is so bothered by the pressure 0:38:19.870 --> 0:38:23.480 the last two weeks. that he is feeling it before 0:38:23.560 --> 0:38:24.160 it gets there. 0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:25.819 It's the ghost. It's the ghost thing. 0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:30.020 So he moves and throws off balance because he moved 0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:32.640 and doesn't hit TMAC. He said after the game, that's 0:38:32.700 --> 0:38:35.339 my fault. And part of it was you could have 0:38:35.380 --> 0:38:38.080 just hung in there and I'm convinced bone in the 0:38:38.120 --> 0:38:39.920 first few weeks, he would have hung in and not 0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:41.919 felt this pressure that wasn't there. 0:38:42.550 --> 0:38:45.650 Yeah, you know, I agree. No, it's a it all. 0:38:45.790 --> 0:38:49.330 Everything that we're talking about starts with the offensive line 0:38:49.370 --> 0:38:53.910 from the play calling to Bryce Young. Everything with the offense. 0:38:53.950 --> 0:38:56.359 We said yesterday, Mac, it doesn't matter what the play 0:38:56.380 --> 0:38:59.280 calls are. It doesn't matter about a lot of stuff. 0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:01.000 The run game and all these things we talk about. 0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:05.260 If the offensive line can't hold up for any duration 0:39:05.300 --> 0:39:07.850 of time, none of that matters. And that's what happened 0:39:07.870 --> 0:39:10.450 last night. None of it matters. It's it can't get 0:39:10.489 --> 0:39:12.770 the play calls he wants out there. You can't get 0:39:12.850 --> 0:39:15.540 Coker and T-Mac in full like you want. You can't 0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:18.040 do what you want to do if the offensive line. 0:39:18.260 --> 0:39:22.060 It's one thing to to not be good. But that 0:39:22.219 --> 0:39:25.609 that's another level that is can't even run plays type 0:39:25.630 --> 0:39:26.089 bad last. 0:39:26.170 --> 0:39:29.969 Yeah, there's there's yeah, there's no there's you gotta. 0:39:30.020 --> 0:39:32.739 Try to scheme around that you got no ability to 0:39:32.780 --> 0:39:35.009 have any time to throw the ball downfield everything's got 0:39:35.030 --> 0:39:37.750 to be dink and dunk or run game The defense 0:39:37.810 --> 0:39:39.430 knows this and they can sit on the dink and 0:39:39.450 --> 0:39:42.230 dunk passes. All of a sudden those RPOs ain't going 0:39:42.250 --> 0:39:43.850 to work like they did against Detroit. You can't do 0:39:43.890 --> 0:39:46.529 that over and over again. The tape's out there. Um, 0:39:46.610 --> 0:39:50.010 so yeah, there's a lot of, of issues. Tarheel Swath 0:39:50.050 --> 0:39:54.430 says we have five below replacement level linemen right now. Yeah. 0:39:54.530 --> 0:39:55.650 I said it yesterday. 0:39:55.690 --> 0:39:58.109 I said, every one of those guys, you're at least 0:39:58.150 --> 0:40:00.569 a little worried about, and maybe every one of them 0:40:00.610 --> 0:40:03.460 we should be severely worried about. I thought it was crazy, 0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:05.819 but I thought the backup left guards played the best. 0:40:07.090 --> 0:40:09.450 I thought Bullock, and of course he gets hurt, and 0:40:09.489 --> 0:40:12.700 then Curhan, not saying they were perfect, Bone, but if 0:40:12.739 --> 0:40:17.440 you had me rank the offensive line positions that were 0:40:17.480 --> 0:40:21.259 the worst last night, I'd have them fifth in terms 0:40:21.300 --> 0:40:21.680 of worst. 0:40:22.120 --> 0:40:27.000 Yeah, no, Curhan does well against Green Bay. He's the 0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:30.020 Packer stopper, Curhan. You may not see him again, but 0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:30.859 when we play Green Bay. 0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:31.319 He's out there. 0:40:31.500 --> 0:40:33.460 Bullock was good against Detroit. He was. 0:40:33.900 --> 0:40:39.050 The tackles were absolutely abysmal. I just, I, I shouldn't 0:40:39.090 --> 0:40:41.330 say I can't believe it because by now we know 0:40:41.430 --> 0:40:44.540 Rashid Walker is playing terrible football and there's no reason 0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:45.630 to expect to change it. 0:40:46.420 --> 0:40:48.360 Monroe, I will be honest. 0:40:48.380 --> 0:40:50.860 I was saying yesterday on the pregame show, like I 0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:52.719 w I thought Monroe was going to hold up better. 0:40:54.050 --> 0:40:56.850 That looked like his first game all over again. 0:40:57.390 --> 0:40:57.710 Yeah. 0:40:57.890 --> 0:41:01.010 I mean, I'm not writing him off for the future. 0:41:01.130 --> 0:41:03.170 I think he's been thrown into the fire here a 0:41:03.190 --> 0:41:05.469 lot this year. He got injured along the way. Yeah, 0:41:05.489 --> 0:41:07.129 they didn't even want him to play year one. They 0:41:07.170 --> 0:41:10.370 wanted him to go full Steinbach. They wanted him to 0:41:10.910 --> 0:41:12.969 sit and watch, and if needed, he's out there, but 0:41:13.030 --> 0:41:15.850 not really have the pressure of being one of the 0:41:15.890 --> 0:41:19.910 main guys. And unfortunately, with this city, when you have 0:41:19.989 --> 0:41:21.609 a plan to sit a guy for a while, he 0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:22.470 might get in there right away. 0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:25.900 Well, no doubt. 0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.700 8-4-3 says the thing about pressure is Bryce is probably 0:41:28.739 --> 0:41:31.340 seeing it in practice too with the practice squad guys. 0:41:31.800 --> 0:41:37.070 He's coming into the game already anticipating pressure. Bagel guy, 0:41:37.110 --> 0:41:41.330 it's time to move Monroe to the left. Who do 0:41:41.350 --> 0:41:43.390 you play on the right side? Do you dare go 0:41:43.430 --> 0:41:47.049 to Stone Forsyth? It's gotten to the point where some 0:41:47.070 --> 0:41:51.170 texters are saying, why the hell not try it? I 0:41:51.290 --> 0:41:53.930 also brought up the idea, can Brady Christensen try to 0:41:53.950 --> 0:41:55.200 play one of the tackle spots? 0:41:55.900 --> 0:41:58.899 I mean, they bring him back. You might as well 0:41:59.020 --> 0:42:01.360 use him. He's got to be better than the alternative 0:42:01.460 --> 0:42:04.400 options we have going on here. Or the other options. 0:42:03.860 --> 0:42:04.560 We have going on. 0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:08.230 This dude says, this segment is not even worth listening to. 0:42:08.630 --> 0:42:12.990 It's going to be... 10 straight minutes of defending Bryce 0:42:13.250 --> 0:42:14.030 at all costs. 0:42:14.270 --> 0:42:15.470 Someone's got to protect Bryce. 0:42:18.290 --> 0:42:20.690 What do you think, Phinney? Are we over-defending Bryce? 0:42:20.730 --> 0:42:22.650 I feel like Bone and I both sat there and 0:42:22.670 --> 0:42:25.430 said he is feeling pressure that's not there on some 0:42:25.469 --> 0:42:29.160 of these plays that he has mentally messed with by 0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:30.080 the last two games. 0:42:30.219 --> 0:42:33.200 I thought the difference in Bryce from last night compared 0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:36.719 to Sunday, like, Mac, on Sunday there was poor decision-making 0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:37.240 from Bryce. 0:42:38.010 --> 0:42:39.469 Yeah, pressure was a big part of it. 0:42:39.469 --> 0:42:42.399 There was also some decisions that cost him and why 0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:43.400 he had three turnovers. 0:42:43.980 --> 0:42:46.060 I didn't get that vibe from him last night. 0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:46.680 That's a good point. 0:42:46.860 --> 0:42:48.460 I got the vibe from him that he has no 0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:51.890 trust in his offensive line, which means that his footwork 0:42:51.950 --> 0:42:53.149 is not where it needs to be. 0:42:53.469 --> 0:42:55.750 Look how quickly he was going through his progressions last night. 0:42:56.300 --> 0:42:58.180 There was a lot of times the play was not 0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:00.540 even developing and we're just dumping the ball down to Chuba. 0:43:00.900 --> 0:43:02.740 And credit Chuba, he was the best player last night 0:43:02.860 --> 0:43:04.770 on the offensive side of the ball for Carolina. I 0:43:04.790 --> 0:43:07.690 thought he played his ass off. So, yeah, I mean, 0:43:08.190 --> 0:43:11.089 you need to be willing to do something. Because the 0:43:11.110 --> 0:43:13.390 way that Rasheed Walker is playing left tackle, he's going 0:43:13.430 --> 0:43:14.700 to get Bryce Young severely injured. 0:43:14.820 --> 0:43:17.100 Yes. And his, and his friends aren't doing a whole 0:43:17.140 --> 0:43:17.720 lot better. 0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:18.340 Yeah. 0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:21.879 You, you said something there. He sped up. That's what's happening, right? 0:43:22.180 --> 0:43:23.940 I got to get through this. He's not open. He's 0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:25.799 not open. Oh my God. They're all over me. You 0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:27.200 know what I mean? That's what's going on. 0:43:27.540 --> 0:43:29.560 And what did we say when Bryce was playing well 0:43:29.580 --> 0:43:31.839 for the first five games, the game has slowed down 0:43:31.880 --> 0:43:34.380 for him. Well, now it's the game has sped up 0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:36.660 again and he looks like young Bryce again. 0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:37.799 Yeah. 0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:41.240 DJ Humphries and Taylor Decker are out there still unsigned 0:43:41.300 --> 0:43:44.750 as guys. I mean, D.J. Humphreys was on the Washington 0:43:44.790 --> 0:43:48.270 practice squad until September. I mean, you're not going to find, 0:43:48.290 --> 0:43:51.550 you know, Taylor Deckers had a shoulder injury, the former Hawaiian, 0:43:51.570 --> 0:43:53.189 but he's still out there. You're telling me that those 0:43:53.230 --> 0:43:54.870 guys right now couldn't come in for a while and 0:43:54.890 --> 0:43:55.830 be better than what we see? 0:43:56.230 --> 0:43:56.550 D.J. 0:43:56.590 --> 0:43:59.299 Humphreys, Charlotte's D.J. Humphreys, by the way, Mallard Creek. You're 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:01.020 telling me D.J. Humphreys, Matt, can't get in there and 0:44:01.060 --> 0:44:03.380 at least be serviceable for a while? Please, somebody. 0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:05.440 Something's worth a shot. I mean, if we're thinking about 0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:07.700 stone foresight, anything is possible. How about this? 0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:11.260 I would actually, Matt, consider putting up a stone wall. 0:44:12.700 --> 0:44:13.359 And see if. 0:44:13.320 --> 0:44:13.980 That can help. 0:44:14.060 --> 0:44:15.239 How about this? 0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:18.500 803 number wants Freeling at left tackle and Fiddy at 0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:19.120 right tackle. 0:44:19.260 --> 0:44:20.180 Can't be much worse. 0:44:22.660 --> 0:44:25.530 This dude says, if you ain't giving Bryson outs of blame, 0:44:25.780 --> 0:44:29.569 then you are being disingenuous, Mac. I feel like we 0:44:29.590 --> 0:44:31.830 have sat here and broke it down. Like, there is 0:44:31.910 --> 0:44:34.690 no doubt he ain't handling the pressure like he did 0:44:34.750 --> 0:44:35.290 early on. 0:44:35.430 --> 0:44:35.989 But Mac was. 0:44:36.010 --> 0:44:39.820 Like, I feel like we're having a fair conversation here. I. 0:44:41.580 --> 0:44:42.420 Are we not, Finney? 0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:43.759 No, I think we are. 0:44:43.780 --> 0:44:46.380 Did people think that the way he played the first 0:44:46.500 --> 0:44:50.200 month of the season was sustainable? Like, yes, it was 0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:52.990 amazing the way he played, leading the league and passing 0:44:53.010 --> 0:44:55.950 yards while being the most pressured quarterback in the National 0:44:55.969 --> 0:45:00.930 Football League. It wasn't sustainable over a 17-game season, though. Like, 0:45:01.030 --> 0:45:04.500 at some point, the guys up front got to do their. 0:45:04.340 --> 0:45:07.570 Job, too. It has gotten worse, though, the last two games. 0:45:08.510 --> 0:45:12.990 It has. Here's where it's gotten worse. The time to pressure. 0:45:12.989 --> 0:45:19.310 2.4 seconds on Sunday, 2.5 seconds last night. These are, 0:45:19.370 --> 0:45:21.069 someone was saying on the text line, it's the two 0:45:21.110 --> 0:45:24.370 fastest of the season. I don't know if that's a fact, 0:45:24.390 --> 0:45:27.450 but it's the two fastest for Bryce this season. That's 0:45:27.489 --> 0:45:31.750 what's changing. It's on him in an instant now. Whereas, yeah, 0:45:31.790 --> 0:45:34.649 he was facing pressure before, but it wasn't like this. 0:45:35.420 --> 0:45:39.219 You know, it's just, and it's ugly. I feel for 0:45:39.239 --> 0:45:43.040 the fella. I feel for the little fella boat and 0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.529 it's in a contract year for him. And he was 0:45:45.570 --> 0:45:47.950 looking like he's going to get paid. How's this going 0:45:47.989 --> 0:45:51.129 to affect value? Then you have the question of like, 0:45:51.450 --> 0:45:54.930 how do you evaluate him? If you're the Panther, like, yeah, 0:45:54.950 --> 0:45:58.090 they've had all this tape on them, but like it 0:45:58.140 --> 0:45:59.400 makes the eval hard. 0:46:01.300 --> 0:46:02.060 Right? Yeah. 0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:04.160 Because, like, what do we hold against him? What do 0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:07.060 we not hold against him here? I don't know, man. 0:46:07.080 --> 0:46:08.680 Damn, it's a headache. 0:46:08.739 --> 0:46:09.180 God. 0:46:09.219 --> 0:46:12.020 Listeners are holding up well, Mac. A guy says he's 0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:15.140 handling the loss well, pulled over to the side of 0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:16.779 the road this morning and had to throw up. 0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:19.910 I just want to know these people that want to 0:46:19.930 --> 0:46:23.670 blame Bryce. How many quarterbacks would thrive under this kind 0:46:23.690 --> 0:46:27.010 of pressure? And if you're comparing them to those echelon 0:46:27.030 --> 0:46:31.150 of quarterbacks, you need to reevaluate your expectations for your quarterback. 0:46:32.469 --> 0:46:35.360 I mean, are there any? You know what I mean? Like, 0:46:35.860 --> 0:46:36.419 are there any? 0:46:36.739 --> 0:46:37.410 I don't think there are. 0:46:37.420 --> 0:46:39.720 Every quarterback would be affected by this in some way. 0:46:40.020 --> 0:46:42.660 There are some that would handle it better, but I'm 0:46:42.700 --> 0:46:45.399 not sure anybody would be great. Picante has your answer, though. 0:46:45.780 --> 0:46:47.989 Drew Mestemaker is the guy, Picante says. 0:46:48.010 --> 0:46:53.270 There's a chance that he might be his father. 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