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Speaker 1: brain of one Eduardo Garrison, which inside of his eight

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Speaker 1: that medulla obligata is full of all kinds of useless information,

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Speaker 1: and so therefore I will present to him a trivia

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Speaker 1: Are you ready for that question right off the top

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Speaker 1: as it relates to the Final four. I know we've

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Speaker 1: got NFL owners meetings to talk about. I know Chris

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Speaker 2: We'll get to all that.

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Speaker 1: I know that Mike Decorsi has announced that this will

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Speaker 1: be his last Final Four as a writer for the

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Speaker 1: Sporting News. Oh wow, and we're going to have him

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Speaker 1: on the program today. I realize that the Pacers are

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Speaker 1: heading down the home stretch here and we're crunching the

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Speaker 1: numbers on what all of that means. I know that, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: a story that we touched on yesterday continues to kind

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Speaker 1: which we can get to as well. But just to

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Speaker 1: keep things over the course of today, fun Okay. US

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Speaker 1: News and World Report every year ranks the academic institutions

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Speaker 1: of the United States, you know, I think, and the

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Speaker 1: number one These are academic rankings. Number one kind of

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Speaker 1: goes back and forth. Some years at Stanford, sometimes it's Harvard.

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Speaker 1: I think Princeton might be the latest at number one.

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Speaker 1: But of the final four participants, without looking please Eddie, okay,

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Speaker 1: I want you to tell me what you would guess

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Speaker 1: participating in the NCAA Men's Final four. And they're academic

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Speaker 1: ranking And yes, universities have colleges. Of the difference between

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Speaker 1: College of Music, whatever it might be. But in this situation,

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Speaker 1: you have four schools that are all universities. Now, some

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Speaker 1: for me, Atie, please rank one through four. What you

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Speaker 1: within the NCAA Men's Final four academically speaking. Academically speaking,

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Speaker 1: with number one, go to number four. I will then

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Speaker 1: tell you how we'll do it, like the price is

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Speaker 2: What if I get them all in the correct order

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Speaker 1: Will come over there. I will actually take the headsets off.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I'm gonna get all four correct on

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Speaker 3: number two, I will go with Arizona, okay, three Connecticut

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Speaker 1: I will tell you that you have one correct suite.

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Speaker 2: We've had a lot of research on that as well.

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Speaker 1: But it is spectacular and glorious outside. Good afternoon to you,

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Speaker 1: and we have a lot to get to. Steven Holder

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Speaker 1: the hour. Mike de COURSEI as I mentioned at one o'clock,

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Speaker 1: Jason Gardner, who of course is the Indiana mister Basketball

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was a legit standout player from the

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Speaker 1: you know, Arizona with Loud Olsen had really kind of

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Speaker 1: But of course a great career there and now back

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Speaker 1: Greg Simmons, you have two spots correct. The person who

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Speaker 2: Know one? Spot, Correct?

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Speaker 3: Jake instead of you, know doing the text line random

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Speaker 3: number giveaway for this for The final four fan, fest

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Speaker 3: how about the first person to get the four schools in?

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Speaker 2: Okay but then you would know the. ANSWER i think you're.

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Speaker 1: Cheating you're asking, that because then that would mean THAT

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Speaker 2: Pants what IF i know the answer? Already do?

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Speaker 1: You PERHAPS i, Don't you've just looked it. Up Probably,

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Speaker 1: no that would seem. UNFAIR i just have that much

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Speaker 1: Okay Yesterday Anne Marie taarnan OF wthr on the air

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Speaker 1: Know we were Discussing Braylan mullins and The university Of

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Speaker 1: the fact that a mister basketball From greenfield put them,

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Speaker 1: know she And Jenny, rinovitch WHO i like a, lot

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Speaker 1: is where THE Nfl owners meetings are taking. Place, Correct, yes,

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Speaker 1: meetings there are plenty of things that can be Discussed

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Speaker 1: and we will begin With Chris ballard talking About Anthony.

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Speaker 1: stand With Anthony richardson and a potential trade for what

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Speaker 2: Quarterback, yeah we'll.

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Speaker 6: SEE i, mean you, KNOW i got where his, agent

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Speaker 6: anthony's you, know mindset. Is nothing's materialized at this, point

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Speaker 2: Forward to proud Of.

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Speaker 6: Anthony he's had some bad luck, unfortunately But i'm proud of.

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Speaker 6: Me Like anthony's a good like he's a good young,

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Speaker 6: man he's a good. Teammate like when he didn't win the,

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Speaker 2: Watch now.

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Speaker 1: We should have a cynic. Detector we should have a

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Speaker 1: Way that sounds to me like What Chris ballard is

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Speaker 2: Vehicle but that is a wonderful. Vehicle and.

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Speaker 1: What he didn't account for was every time that he

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Speaker 1: or best offer two thousand. Dollars ohbo right blows cold,

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Speaker 1: air and nobody's. Called nobody's, Called and so now people, say,

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Speaker 1: mede the. Driveway, well, look the one Thing i've learned

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Speaker 1: a couple of times and it was. Great he has to.

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Speaker 1: Speak AND i don't Think Anthony richardson's a bad guy

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Speaker 1: by any stretch of the, imagination but if you're trying

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Speaker 1: it is the biggest swing in a, Miss and quite,

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Speaker 1: Frankly i'm a little surprised that we don't harp more

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Speaker 1: got saved a little bit By Daniel, jones and this

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Speaker 1: year is going to be huge because this year What

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Speaker 1: Daniel jones does or doesn't do is going to go

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Speaker 1: a long. Way and how much we Tag Chris bowder

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Speaker 1: and so he's got to get something back in return

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Speaker 1: hear him say there are some positives, there because otherwise

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Speaker 1: then it's a Complete if you get nothing for him

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Speaker 1: and you just got to release him out, right that's.

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Speaker 1: Brutal AND i think he knows. That it doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: knows that. Now as For Daniel, Jones Chris baller did

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Speaker 1: meet With Lara overton to discuss a number of different,

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Speaker 1: things Including Daniel jones and where things. Stand just in

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Speaker 1: terms of his. Recovery it's in a great.

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Speaker 6: PLACE i, mean, look nobody's gonna outwork and he almost

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Speaker 6: got to pull the reins back in on him a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit but so, far so.

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Speaker 6: GOOD i, mean like time heals any. Injury so we'll

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Speaker 6: take it to day by day and continue to. Rehab

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Speaker 6: he's doing a. Lot he's he's actually able to throw

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Speaker 6: so that's been. Good but one thing you don't ever

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Speaker 6: is going to work and he cares about not only

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Speaker 3: That something That Chris ballard hits on there that you

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Speaker 3: don't hear him talk about With Anthony richardson in my,

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Speaker 3: perspective is the fact that every time we've Heard Chris

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Speaker 3: ballard talk About Daniel, jones he always mentions the work.

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Speaker 3: Ethic and to kind of go back to what he

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Speaker 3: was saying About Anthony, richardson you, Know Chris, ballard whenever

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Speaker 3: he talks About Anthony richardson Versus Daniel jones as, Well

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Speaker 3: anthony's a great. Guy like the way he handled the,

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Speaker 3: Benching oh he was a great he was a total.

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Speaker 3: Pro and then you hear him talk About Daniel, Jones,

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Speaker 3: jake and it's always the work. Ethic he's always doing

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Speaker 3: the extra, Thing he's always doing, This he's always doing.

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Speaker 1: That is this world two? Murgatory what you, said is

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Speaker 1: it over compensatory of? Comparison you know WHAT i? Mean

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Speaker 1: like it's almost like each time he talks About Daniel,

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Speaker 1: jones somewhat voicing subconsciously what he didn't see.

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Speaker 2: Previously, YES i think. SO i think you're.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah but it is you. Know the good news is,

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Speaker 1: this and that is that there was no, indication not

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Speaker 1: on pace here because they need and they know, it

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Speaker 1: they need a huge year out Of Daniel. Jones AND

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Speaker 1: i don't mean five thousand yards and twenty five. Touches

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Speaker 1: i'm not talking about. That they need For Daniel. Jones

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Speaker 1: to simply. Show In carl Urse gordon's, words she was

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Speaker 1: watching a movie she really liked and then it was

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Speaker 1: unpaused button on where they were before The Cold season.

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Speaker 1: Was it's Like Full Metal jacket started out, awesome started

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Speaker 1: Out you're, like this IS i, mean this is riveting

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Speaker 1: and captivating and fast. PACED i, mean AND i know

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Speaker 1: we're talking about The Vietnam. WAR i don't misquote me,

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Speaker 1: here BUT i.

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Speaker 2: Mean Full Metal.

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Speaker 1: Jacket the first half of that movie is you, know

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Speaker 1: the whole time they're In Paris, ISLAND i, mean it's,

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Speaker 1: riveting and then they. Leave in the second half of the,

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Speaker 1: And i'm not comparing AN nfl season with, war don't

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Speaker 1: get me. Wrong but in terms of watching a movie

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Speaker 1: movie it's totally different than the first. Half and that's

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Speaker 1: exactly What Carli Jersay gordon has said about The colts.

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Speaker 3: Season it's like going to the, Casino, jake can you

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Speaker 3: first walk in, there you're feeling. GREAT i walk. In you,

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Speaker 3: Know i've got two hundred dollars in my. POCKET i

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Speaker 3: play a couples a. Blackjacket look at. That i'm up

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Speaker 2: Bucks let's keep this puppy.

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Speaker 1: Going and by the, WAY i don't know if you

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Speaker 1: know this, around but casinos now it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: of the thrill is gone because when you go into casinos,

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Speaker 1: now they no longer they all are just you, know

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Speaker 1: obviously as everything, is it's all, digital so you don't

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Speaker 1: have the dink ding ding ding ding ding ding ding

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Speaker 1: DISTANCE a little bit of that thrill is, Gone like.

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Speaker 2: That Was, yes that was the.

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Speaker 1: Best when you hear that in the distance and you

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Speaker 1: hear people, cheering and now you just hear like think

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Speaker 1: ding and that's. It one other, thing though The colts

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Speaker 1: do not have obviously a first round pick this nor next,

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Speaker 1: Year Chris ballard has been able to Find Jonathan taylor good,

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Speaker 1: Example Michael pittman junior good, Example Zire franklin good. Example

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Speaker 1: he's been able to find production outside of round, one

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Speaker 1: which one would assume now becomes even more so, critical

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Speaker 1: especially the next two. Years Chris ballard on no first

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Speaker 1: round pick the next two. Years we got.

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Speaker 6: Great group and they. WORK i, mean they do a

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Speaker 6: great job of identifying what fits through the. YEARS i

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Speaker 6: MEAN i think back, to you, know the years we

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Speaker 6: got you, Know jonathan and. Pitt we've done really well

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Speaker 6: in the you, know second round, on not that we

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Speaker 6: haven't done good in the, first but second round, on

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Speaker 6: AND i give my staff.

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Speaker 2: A lot of credit for.

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Speaker 6: That they do a great job identifying who fits what

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Speaker 6: we want defensively or, offensively and they work really hand

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Speaker 6: in hand with our coaches to make sure, we're you,

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Speaker 6: know when we're drafting and taking that player that we

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Speaker 6: have a vision for who he's going to. Be you,

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Speaker 6: know right now we have seven. PICKS i would guess

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Speaker 6: that we end up with, more so we'll. See you

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Speaker 6: never know one draft.

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Speaker 1: DAY i have always felt this. Way there's a difference

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Speaker 1: between drafting, wisely in drafting players in rounds, three, five or,

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Speaker 1: seven let's say that, hit and having, third, fifth and

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Speaker 1: seventh rounders that are playing for you because you have

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Speaker 1: positions that need to be filled and that's where you

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Speaker 1: had to fill. Them there's a difference between a guy

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Speaker 1: that you draft in the seventh round and he is

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Speaker 1: so good that it's, like this guy's got to, Play Antoine,

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Speaker 1: bathay this guy's got to. Play HE'S i can't believe.

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Speaker 1: That what a diamond in the. Rough there's a difference

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00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:39,479
Speaker 1: between that and, hey we have spent eighty percent of

435
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: our cap on twenty percent of our roster and so

436
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: therefore we have to plug holes with minimum contract guys

437
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: elsewhere At Jason david and just kind of mask. Them

438
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: And Jason david was a nice player for The. Colts

439
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 1: he did a good. Job but it's not Like Jason

440
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: david was playing at that position at corner because they're,

441
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 1: like oh my, gosh we got this guy that just

442
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 1: what a diamond in the. Rough it more so was

443
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: we have a couple of, positions just like In Little

444
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: league when you you've got to figure out where to

445
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: put one or two kids that aren't as good but

446
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: they want To you've got to round out your roster

447
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: and they need a chance to play as. Well so

448
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,959
Speaker 1: they're out in like left or right, field kind of

449
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: the same. Thing where where can we kind of mask those?

450
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: Guys AND i think to some extent The, colts we

451
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: have given them credit for a couple of guys that

452
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: look like they, hit but it's because they needed somebody

453
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: at that, position and yet they had to kind of

454
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: lowball what they were paying for.

455
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: It Steven holder is out.

456
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: There we will talk to him coming up just a

457
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: couple of minutes and carry on this as well as

458
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: some of as we talked about yesterday With chap where

459
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 1: things stand in discussion on rules changes in THE. Nfl

460
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: we'll do that With holder coming up. Next mike De,

461
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: corsi by the, way later in the, Program Jason gardner

462
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: possibly as. Well NOW i don't know what this. Means

463
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: paulie And. Indy, Hey jake The Smarty pants comment was.

464
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: Appropriate do we need clarification From Anne marie whether or

465
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 1: not she meant like you're being a smart alec or

466
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: you are of a smart, guy because smarty pants to

467
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: me means like smart.

468
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: Alec, right, yeah smart?

469
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 4: Ass.

470
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, WELL i don't know That i'd go that. Far

471
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: smarty pants more recess version of that.

472
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Speaker 2: Term.

473
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: RIGHT i guess we are trying to be a friend

474
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 3: kid friendly, program SO i should probably just say smart.

475
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: Alec that's.

476
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: Right joining us now on the, show And i'm sure

477
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: thrilled to be doing. So FROM espn dot. Com Stephen

478
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 1: holder is at THE nfl owners. Meeting, stephen ALL i

479
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: know is this the? Meeting it's the owner's meetings are In?

480
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: Arizona is that? Correct that is?

481
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 2: Correct?

482
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: Okay now where exactly in big? State so where exactly In?

483
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: Arizona we are.

484
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 7: In phoenix at The Arizona, biltmore WHERE i am not

485
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 7: saying BECAUSE i don't have that big inexpense, report but

486
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 7: it's it's. PHENOMENAL i will tell. You there ARE i

487
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 7: think four.

488
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 8: Pools it's pretty.

489
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 2: Cool they're all.

490
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 7: Amazing it's water slide, too, apparently and the kids. Pool so,

491
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 7: yeah you, know i'fre looking for some spring break fun

492
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 7: and you got twelve hundred bucks a night to. Spare

493
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 7: come on.

494
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: Down how's how's putt putt at The Glendale Howard.

495
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: Johnson.

496
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 7: Yea they don't give marry out points over, there but

497
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 7: they do it The, Renaissance so So i'm making do. There,

498
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 7: yeah they Have they have an executive lounge, though for preferred.

499
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 7: Customers and the croissants were, okay, Yeah.

500
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: I'm looking up right here The Arizona Built More hotel

501
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: And resort In, Phoenix. Arizona it does look like a nice.

502
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 1: Place do you think it's just the kind of place

503
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: where they list the.

504
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 2: The rates on the web wars at like call if you're.

505
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: INTERESTED i think this probably depends on the room you're.

506
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 7: SEEKING i think if you want one of the many

507
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 7: villas that are, available you may have to call for

508
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 7: special arrangements on.

509
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 1: Those i'm looking right now In. November it doesn't look

510
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: like To and this is. Interesting as soon AS i

511
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: put it, in it, says, sorry nothing. Available clearly they've

512
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: got some sort of a spyware on. There, Okay So

513
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: carli Orse gordon has, Spoken Chris ballard has, Spoken Shane

514
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: steichen has. Spoken if you could summarize if there was

515
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: one Thing stephen that you would say was a theme

516
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: or a message that if there was one thing that you, thought,

517
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: wow they must have all gotten together at The Continental

518
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: breakfast to make sure they were on the same page

519
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: regarding the messaging of. Something what would it, Be, well.

520
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 7: LOOK i, MEAN i THINK i would just say that

521
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 7: they all suggest that they're very comfortable with where things

522
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 7: are at right, now BECAUSE i think a lot of

523
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 7: fans seem underwhelmed by this. Offseason THE i asked them

524
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 7: about that in many different, ways and the reaction from

525
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 7: them was, essentially we think we checked our boxes this.

526
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 7: Offseason they feel like they have accomplished what they needed

527
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 7: to do this. OFFSEASON i think the counter argument is, that,

528
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 7: well you just got back to like a base, level

529
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 7: and SO i have you, know proceeded to counter you,

530
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 7: know is that? Enough and you, KNOW i think the

531
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 7: answers we'll. SEE i don't think they have a great,

532
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 7: answer particularly on. Defense they don't have a lot of

533
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 7: great answers in terms of what they have or haven't.

534
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 7: Done they've done what they've, done and they are where they,

535
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 7: are and they seem confident or seem comfortable with. It

536
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 7: whether that's true or, not that's what they, SAID i.

537
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: Thought Carl er, Say Gordon Stephen holder is my GUEST

538
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: espn dot. Com by the, Way, steven if you want

539
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: to go there In, july i'd take one hundred and eighty, degrees,

540
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: Admittedly but if you want to go In, july you

541
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: can stay at a resort room with two queen beds

542
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: for one hundred and seventy eight a.

543
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: Night it's not, terrible, Right, oh that's amazing, actually but

544
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: it's Also, july.

545
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: Right november, Three november three sixty a.

546
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 7: Night, yeah, well that's also not the week THE nfl

547
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 7: owners take over the, place so that's probably something to

548
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 7: do with.

549
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: It you know that that checks. Out let me let

550
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: me see what it would cost if you did it

551
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: right now. Now they're probably they're booked though right.

552
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 7: Now right presumably we also have The Women's Final force

553
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 7: coming to town, too. Apparently let me see here what

554
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 7: that is adding to the demand, Here, yeah in, town all.

555
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: Right i'm checking rooms right now to see what it

556
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: would be this weekend if we just, decided let me, know.

557
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 7: Maybe maybe this was a missed opportunity by met eight

558
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 7: four a. Night there you, go, yeah, okay not quite twelve,

559
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 7: hundred but. Close that's.

560
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: Good, well that's And i'm talking about WHAT i just,

561
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: mentioned by the, way comes with a cot and then

562
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: an ice.

563
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: Bucket that's.

564
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: It, YES i would imagine a legit, room probably too.

565
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: Grant there is there the possibility That Chris ballard even

566
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: Knew And I'VE i broached this subject, before but maybe

567
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: now we have a little bit more. Clarity is there

568
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: the possibility That Chris ballard knew And Carli Ersa gordon

569
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: knew that with the unfortunate passing Of Jim, orsay that

570
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: the first year that his daughters would be in charge

571
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: would literally be a year of financial inventory and simply

572
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: figuring out the taxes that are going to be do

573
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: the valuation of the, franchise the, numbers all of, it

574
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: all of the business. Operations learning and tiptoeing through that

575
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: for the first year would prioritize then. Over, okay now

576
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: that we understand the business aspect of, it let's get

577
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: down to the brass tax of the football, standpoint and

578
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: that that gave some flexibility even To Chris, ballard of

579
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: understanding and knowing that everything was kind of set aside

580
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: for a, year so to, SPEAK.

581
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: I would, SAY i would say probably. NOT i don't know.

582
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 7: THAT i, Agree and here's, why because let's go back

583
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 7: to last spring around this. Time, Now Ji mercy was

584
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 7: still with us at the, time but you, know we

585
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 7: don't know what his health was at that. Time it

586
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 7: does not appear that it was. Great ALTHOUGH i won't

587
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 7: go further than that BECAUSE i don't, know but it

588
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 7: does not appear he was in great health at that.

589
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 7: Point SO i say that to say curlier, Say gordon

590
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 7: was in a very influential position at that, point and

591
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 7: they HAD i thought that their most aggressive off season

592
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 7: in many many, years and in terms of their free agency.

593
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 7: Spending and THEN i fast forward to this off season

594
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 7: where even though And Chris ballard made this point yesterday he, said,

595
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 7: look we didn't go out and Sign Mooney ward or

596
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 7: Cam binen or those types of guys this off. Season

597
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 7: but he said that might have had something to do

598
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 7: with us spending forty four million on the quarterback in

599
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 7: twenty eight million on a wide, receiver speaking Of Daniel

600
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 7: jones of, course And Alec, pierce they're in house free.

601
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 7: AGENTS i, mean that's a massive amount of money that

602
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 7: they had to dedicate to two players so. Effectively whether

603
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 7: you're spending it inside or outside of your, building you're

604
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 7: spending a ton of. MONEY i would argue they're. Spending

605
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 7: spending is not their problem right. Now, frankly spending is

606
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 7: not their.

607
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: PROBLEM i.

608
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 7: THINK i think their issue is they have some holes

609
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 7: in the roster that just have not been have not been,

610
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 7: filled or at least the appearance right now something outside

611
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 7: looking in is that they have not filled.

612
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: Them time will.

613
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: Tell are there any topics of discussion or question marks

614
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: or holes that need to be addressed within the league

615
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: itself that have been discussed at these meetings that you

616
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: did not anticipate going.

617
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 7: In, NO i think there were some predictable things that

618
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 7: did get, discussed BUT i wouldn't say there were any.

619
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 7: SURPRISES i, mean the THING i want to see here

620
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 7: in a little bit when we hear From Roger, goodell

621
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 7: the issue that's simmering that we're probably not talking enough

622
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 7: about what's going on with the. Officials they are, there

623
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 7: they're in a potential lockout situation if they don't get

624
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 7: a deal here with the union that represents the game.

625
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 7: Officials and so if that happens and they have a

626
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 7: standoff and they don't get a. Deal you're looking At

627
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 7: you're looking at replacement, referees and they have already started

628
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 7: the process of hiring and vetting replacement. Referees that's not

629
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 7: good for, anybody, okay and they should be feeling a

630
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 7: lot of pressure about, this but they seem willing to

631
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 7: move forward with replacements if need. Be So i'm interested

632
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 7: to see how that. GOES A fancy motorcycles right and

633
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 7: by me right. Now so it's gonna be a little out.

634
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: How fancy like there In? July fancy are staying there

635
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: during THE nfl owners, Meeting fancy because there appears to

636
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: be a significant.

637
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: Difference good. Question i'm not a motorcycle. Guy it's not

638
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: a very manly thing to, say But i'm not a motorcycle.

639
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: GUY i don't know much about. BIKES i know. Cars

640
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: But i've always wondered. This i've asked this. Before why

641
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 2: do we say bicycle but? MOTORCYCLE i work with, words

642
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 2: BUT i don't have an answer for this.

643
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: ONE i, mean all your changes the, prefix why are

644
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: we changing the pronunciation on the?

645
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 2: Suffix that's a great.

646
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 7: QUESTION i actually real, QUICK i just thought about something

647
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 7: you asked, me you, know about financial flexibility and things

648
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 7: of that. NATURE i did get into a conversation With

649
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 7: Carli Ersa gordon the other day THAT i do want

650
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 7: TO i do want to reference. STUFF i think it's

651
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 7: relevant to your, QUESTION i asked. Her you may know

652
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 7: if you if you follow the business side of THE,

653
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 7: nfl you may know that they had a vote to

654
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 7: affirm the right to have private equity investment in your

655
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 7: team if you so choose as an, owner which you

656
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 7: know private equity is a controversial topic in every.

657
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 1: Industry, steven let me let me stop you right, there

658
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: And i'm to put that in a more simple. Term,

659
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: basically what that means is THE nfl owners are voting

660
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 1: on the.

661
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: They've already, voted they did this in this in a prior.

662
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: Year but so they have cleared the way for if

663
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: you so choose to basically go out and find people

664
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: off the street to invest in your.

665
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: Franchise is that essentially what that.

666
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 7: Means, yeah there's like These Wall street firms that basically

667
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 7: go out and invest in various industries or businesses and

668
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 7: reach the profits from. It and so it's it's not

669
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 7: as wide open as it sounds. Like that you have

670
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 7: to be an approved firm to do, this they vet.

671
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 7: You you, know there's only a handful that are even allowed,

672
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 7: in but it is allowed right and, this and it

673
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 7: hasn't for a couple of. Years there are three, teams

674
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 7: one of them being The Miami dolphins and a couple

675
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 7: others that absolutely have already taken advantage of. This SO

676
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 7: i answer, said you, know obviously it's a time of.

677
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 7: Transition uh you, know do you have this this opportunity

678
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 7: available to you if need be or if you so.

679
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 7: Choose is that is that something you? Consider she said

680
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 7: that she and her sisters discussed, it but they do

681
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 7: not feel the need to access that capital right now

682
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 7: and they're moving forward with full ownership of the. Team

683
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 7: SO i thought that was a way of her maybe signaling, that,

684
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 7: look we're here for the long haul and we're all.

685
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 7: In so, YEAH i think the thing to keep in,

686
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 7: mind she said this That Lucas Oil stadium is reaching

687
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 7: that twenty year old mark NOW i think next, year

688
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 7: and as you get to that, age you're going to

689
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 7: start to need massive upgrades and that's going to cost

690
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 7: probably into the hundreds of millions of. Dollars she, said

691
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 7: they will reevaluate at that point when they have to

692
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 7: do stadium, renovations they may or may not access private

693
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 7: equity at that.

694
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: Point keep.

695
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 7: It last Thing i'll, say if you're a fan and

696
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 7: you hear that and you get freaked, OUT i don't blame,

697
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 7: you right because private equity On Wall, street you, know

698
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 7: if you pay attention to current, events a lot of

699
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 7: times that ends. Poorly the key is THE nfl only

700
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 7: allows up to ten percent in that so that no

701
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 7: one else in terms of the private equity, world can

702
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 7: own more than ten percent of the.

703
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 1: Team does that mean, okay and pardon my ignorance, Here, stephen, okay,

704
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: sure does that mean that no one person or no one,

705
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: firm no can buy more than ten percent or no

706
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 1: more than Ten but hold, on does that mean that

707
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: no one that the maximum you can buy in is ten?

708
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: Percent or does that mean the maximum you can sell

709
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: out if you're The colts is ten? Percent could they

710
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: have five different people that they sell ten percent each?

711
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 7: To my understanding is that that private equity in, total

712
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 7: private equity investment in total can be ten.

713
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 2: Percent that's the WAY i understood.

714
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 7: It and by the, way keep in, mind you can

715
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 7: you could you can sell you can have minority, ownership

716
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 7: and that you can do whatever you want theoretically.

717
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: There just to be, CLEAR i.

718
00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: Will warn, You stephen and everyone else listening if at

719
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: any point the colts the CITY i guess the city

720
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: more than the colts. Here if at any point anybody

721
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: comes to me for a single dollar For Lucas Oil stadium,

722
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: RENOVATIONS i will absolutely scream from the mountaintops to the

723
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: point where probably it would even like put me in jeopardy.

724
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 2: Here because NO i.

725
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: Agree, NOW i am old enough to, remember like it was,

726
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: yesterday like it was, Yesterday i'm old enough to remember

727
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: that when the city Of indianapolis fleeced the taxpayers of

728
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: this town for seven hundred and twenty million dollars of

729
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: like four hundred ninety MILLION i think of which originally

730
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: was going to be the, number and it kept going

731
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: up on what we were going to. Pay but the

732
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: most highly publicly subsidized sports building in the history of

733
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: The United, states one that has more tax dollars in

734
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: it come Than, Arizona, dallas And New york. Combined, Okay

735
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: and at the time that we all agreed to bend

736
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: over backwards reach into our wallet and hand it over

737
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: to the. City we all agreed on it because we

738
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: were told this is a one time. Deal you are

739
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: not going to have to do it. Again this is

740
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: a stadium that is going to then the bonds are

741
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: going to pay for. Itself this is a stadium that

742
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: is going to bring all kinds of bookoo bucks in

743
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: and all kinds of events that are going to come,

744
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: here and is one size fits. All this is a

745
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: one size fits all stadium that's going to do everything

746
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: and answer every. Question and, YOU i know it's a big,

747
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: sacrifice but you're only gonna have to make it, once

748
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: And i'm going to hold them to.

749
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: It i'll, See AND i think you're right to do.

750
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: THAT i think you're right to do. That, listen.

751
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 7: Since that, TIME i think in the last two, decades

752
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 7: attitudes toward public financing of stadiums HAS.

753
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: I, think certainly totally the other, direction no question on

754
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: the other.

755
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 7: Direction and a lot of teams now they don't even go,

756
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 7: there you, know because they know it's a it's a non.

757
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 7: Starter it depends in your. Market there are still are

758
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 7: teams obviously doing.

759
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: It you.

760
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 7: KNOW i don't know what's going, on like for, example

761
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 7: The Chicago. BEARS i don't know if they're looking for public,

762
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 7: financing but but they certainly are in a in a

763
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 7: strained situation with their.

764
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: Stadium but my point.

765
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 7: Is there are a lot of teams now that they

766
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 7: just they literally do not go there because it's such

767
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 7: a toxic subject for the fan base that even fan

768
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 7: bases that are you, know certainly deeply invested in their,

769
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 7: teams they still don't want to hear, it you.

770
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: Know and SO i get. It i'm with.

771
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 7: YOU i think just as a just as a as a,

772
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 7: citizen as a, VOTER i. AM i am staunchly against that.

773
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 7: Concept AND i will say you've seen it, now like for,

774
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 7: example The Miami, dolphins if you've been to Hard Rock,

775
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 7: stadium that that stadiums come a long. Way, well that

776
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 7: was paid for out Of Steve ross's, pockets their, owner

777
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 7: like a two hundred and fifty million dollar, renovation and

778
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 7: the culture are probably gonna end up having to do

779
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 7: the same thing when the time comes At Lucas.

780
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: Oil Steven holder down In, ARIZONA nfl owners, meeting all

781
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: the COVERAGE espn AND espn dot com as, well go

782
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: get on your fancy motorcycle and ride yourself back to the.

783
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: Hojo all, right, Brother i'll see.

784
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: YOU i Appreciate Steven holder joining us on the. Program Mike,

785
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: decursi is set to cover THE Ncaa Final, four at

786
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: least for The Sporting news for the final time in

787
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: his illustrious, career joins us thirteen. Minutes all, Right, eddie

788
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: you want to take another shot at. It and by the,

789
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: WAY i had. One there was a kind of a clerical,

790
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: tiebreaker if you, will on our rankings academically, speaking ranking

791
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: academically according TO Us news And World, report the four

792
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: schools of the final. Four, now if you know the, Answer,

793
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: eddie if you looked it, up then tell ME i

794
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: did not.

795
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 2: Know, okay what would Your what is your?

796
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 3: Guess so my first guest Was, Michigan, Arizona, Yukon. ILLINOIS

797
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 3: i guess this go around will Be, Michigan, Illinois, Arizona, Arizona.

798
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: Yukon, okay you have two? Correct you have two.

799
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 1: CORRECT i will continue over the course of the show

800
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 1: today pacers an act tomorrow night taking on The bulls In.

801
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: Chicago we can get into this a little bit more

802
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: later in the. Program, mike of, course he said to

803
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: join us here, shortly obviously troubling the whole situation With

804
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: jade And.

805
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: Ivy AND i think there has been.

806
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: A little bit of hyperbole thrown into this Because jade

807
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: And ivy for those that are, Unfamiliar jade And, ivy

808
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: of course was a top five pick to The Detroit,

809
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 1: pistons fairly, INCONSISTENT i, mean a promising, player but also again.

810
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: Inconsistent but injuries have been a big part of HIS nba.

811
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: Career ended up In. CHICAGO i don't recall if he

812
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: was out for the year or he is out for the, Year,

813
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: yes out for the year. Injury and then he has

814
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: over the last few days taken to social media with

815
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: a number of different long i'll say. Diatribe many of

816
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: them are theologically, based philosophically, based a number of different.

817
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: Things there's one where he discussed being abused as a.

818
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 1: Child he talks about. Depression he talked about lifestyle choices

819
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: he has made that were you know that he knows

820
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: now were, wrong alcohol. Use he goes through a number

821
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: of different. Things one of the things in which he

822
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: discussed was his opposition To Pride night in THE nba

823
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: and what that means to him from a religion, standpoint

824
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: and then The bulls released. Him AND i think there

825
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: were a lot of people that thought that The bulls

826
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: released him because of one particular thing that he had.

827
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: Said you, know the headlines Are bulls Released Jaden ivy

828
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 1: because of these.

829
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: Comments is conduct detrimental to the? Team was the phrasing they.

830
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 3: Used my assumption would, be and it's a slippery slope

831
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 3: because in no, way shape or form is having faith

832
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,479
Speaker 3: and religion a mental. Illness and in no, way shape

833
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: or formed is expressing your opinion mean mental illness or

834
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: that you should have necessarily repercussion unless it's you, know

835
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: speaking violence of a particular group or you know. Whatever

836
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 3: but look At Kyrie irving just a handful of years, Ago.

837
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: Jacob he was all over the place with his political,

838
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 3: beliefs in his religion beliefs as.

839
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: Well.

840
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: Right, yeah the to, ME i think he was released

841
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: because he appeared and he basically said in one of

842
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: the things he, said Like i'm leaving behind the basketball,

843
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: Player i'm leaving that part of my life behind. ME

844
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: i don't want to be defined by. It MY i

845
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: don't know, This i'm not. There but my assumption would

846
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: be the that The bulls did that as almost an

847
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: intervention of there are bigger things that he needs to

848
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: work through aside from simply becoming healthy to play basketball.

849
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: Again and, totality it is not the, behavior it's the

850
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: what appears to be sudden change of behavior that makes

851
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: you raise an. Eyebrow Final four is upon. Us Mike

852
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: decorsi of The Sporting news is as legendary as anybody

853
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: when it comes to covering this, event and he joins us.

854
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: NEXT i love everything about The Final. Four i've always

855
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: loved The Final. FOUR i love the trivia of. IT

856
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: i love the history of. IT i love the random

857
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: nature of AN lsu in eighty, six Or South carolina

858
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: a few years, ago Or George, mason you, know just

859
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: the fact that there's always A cinderella story in The Final.

860
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: Four maybe not so much this, year but stars can

861
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: emerge in The final. Four i've just always loved everything about,

862
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: it the fact that it's the turn of, spring and

863
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: as An indianapolis, native it is. Surreal two things about

864
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: The Final four to me are. Surreal one of them

865
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: is That indianapolis has become one of the regular rotation

866
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: homes of the event BECAUSE i remember just what an

867
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: absolute thrill and honor and it was to think in

868
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: ninety one that for the second Time indianapolis was hosting

869
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: one and the world.

870
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: Was looking at us the other.

871
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: Thing to be, honest And i'm not just saying this

872
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: because he's our next guest on the, program but you,

873
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: know in reading about and learning about and just always

874
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: anticipating The Final, FOUR i really don't. THINK i guess

875
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: two people that come to. Mind John feinstein always came

876
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: to mind to, me just because of a season on

877
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: the brink and then seeing him At Final. Fours But

878
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: MIKE DECURSI i, think from the standpoint of writing about,

879
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: it has done as much to champion and celebrate and

880
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: grow and spread the enthusiasm of this, EVENT i think

881
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: as much as anybody that you can, find certainly in

882
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: the written, word but in the word in general about

883
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: The Final. Four and to know that he's become a

884
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: regular guest on the program to me is also again.

885
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: Surreal BUT i loved reading recently That mike just wrote

886
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: about his Favorite Final four, memories And, mike that's because

887
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: an illustrious career and covering the event that you've decided

888
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: For The Sporting news that this one is the curtain

889
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 1: call in terms of Your final four?

890
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: Coverage is that?

891
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 8: Correct, well particularly maybe not final four, coverage but the

892
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 8: rest of the year coverage is going to kind of

893
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 8: be really scaled back a. Lot i'm going to retire

894
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 8: from the full time employment situation with The Sporting, news

895
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 8: AND i still intend to, do hopefully a lot of

896
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 8: the broadcasting work That i've been doing doing over the

897
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:06,760
Speaker 8: last couple, decades And i'll still maintain some presence At Sporting,

898
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 8: news including we are one of the four components of

899
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 8: the Consensus All America, team AND i take great pride in,

900
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 8: that AND i assemble a group of esteemed veteran basketball

901
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 8: journalists from across the country to put together our, team

902
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 8: AND i will continue to administer that at, Minimum and

903
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 8: so it's Possible i'll still be doing SOME ncaa tournament

904
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 8: coverage as. Well we'll see about. That exactly what form

905
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 8: it's going to, take Wen't we haven't really decided. Upon

906
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 8: but getting up in the morning and going straight to

907
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 8: my desk every, day it's time for that for there

908
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 8: to be some alternate to that.

909
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: Routine how much of that also Is, mike AND i

910
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: think that we've all been like bracing for, this AND

911
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: i don't think it's. BAD i think it's been actually

912
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: in some, ways maybe more refreshing THAN i. Anticipated but

913
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: how much is college basketball different than even, say five years,

914
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: ago and the way that it may look five years.

915
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 8: From, Now well it looks a lot, different but in

916
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 8: a lot of ways that aren't, appreciated it looks. Better

917
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 8: it's a better game, now first of, all in the

918
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 8: way the rules are, administered the elimination OF i never

919
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 8: take credit for this. TERM i love, it BUT i

920
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 8: can't take credit for. It Brandon, prunty former sports writer

921
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 8: now pr executive In New, jersey used to work For

922
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 8: New York Star ledger and cover The rutgers In Seaton

923
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 8: hall and those, guys and he came up with the term,

924
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 8: charbage which is an amalgamation of garbage, charges and that

925
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 8: ruled basketball for the better part of two, decades and

926
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 8: it made the game stagnant and less interesting than it should,

927
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 8: be and it rewarded bad, defense and we fought for

928
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 8: years to get rid of. It and the late Great John,

929
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 8: adams who was such a good friend and did so

930
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 8: much for my family that a lot of people don't

931
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 8: know about and he ten years ago tried to get

932
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 8: that rock up the hill and it didn't, happen but

933
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 8: the force of that launch eventually took. Place and now you,

934
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 8: SEE i, mean how much different a player Would Exel

935
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 8: lindeborg be if you. COULD i don't know that anybody

936
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 8: would want, to but if you could just jump in

937
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 8: front of him anytime he got going and fall down

938
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 8: and get a, Call yax is going to be on

939
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 8: the bench half the. Game and that's not the way

940
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 8: it should. Be the game is supposed to be, dynamic

941
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 8: and it is. Again and so that's the first part

942
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 8: of what makes it. Better and then the other element

943
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 8: of what makes it better is the number of players

944
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 8: who now are Actually i'm not in favor of the fighting,

945
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 8: part but the idea that they want to fight to

946
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 8: stay in. College whereas even six or seven years, ago

947
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 8: or maybe even five years, ago players who really would

948
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 8: prefer to stayed in college because they knew they weren't

949
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 8: necessarily ready for THE nba or ready to pack up

950
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 8: and go to play In, europe just had to make

951
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 8: some money playing the. Game they just. Couldn't they just

952
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 8: couldn't keep not making six grand a year on cost

953
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 8: of attendance and all of that when their skills were

954
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 8: worth more than, that, clearly and there probably would be

955
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 8: somebody that would pay, them if not in THE. Nba

956
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 8: and so those players are staying in college, now so

957
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 8: you have better players playing the. Sport and if you

958
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 8: want to add in The illinois, circumstance players who before would, say,

959
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 8: okay like IF i go over there and, play when

960
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 8: CAN i enter the? Draft and how? Well, yeah AND

961
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 8: i have to give up what MONEY i am making

962
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 8: and all the rest of. That they would they would

963
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 8: stay In europe and then they'd file for the draft

964
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 8: and then maybe the team would take them at stash

965
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 8: them In. Europe they and we don't really need you.

966
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 8: Now and now they come here and they make better

967
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 8: money in some cases than they would have made with

968
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 8: their clubs in the in the In, europe and they

969
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 8: get themselves better. TRAINED i don't care what anybody, says

970
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 8: the best training in the world for THE nba is college. Basketball,

971
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 8: Okay So jannis and a few, Others, jokic those guys

972
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 8: went Through europe the. System BUT Mj magic look At Paul.

973
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 8: Pierce the best players in the history of the game

974
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 8: went Through, College Larry, bird of COURSE i should have

975
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 8: certainly mentioned.

976
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 1: That Chamberlin russell on and on.

977
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 8: Right, YEAH i mean they went and you continue to

978
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 8: have this incredible resource Of Tom izzo And Bill self

979
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 8: And John caliperi And Rick, patino who are unbelievable teachers

980
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 8: of the, game and you can get, that and now

981
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 8: you can get paid to do, that and you can

982
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,439
Speaker 8: get yourself ready for the highest league in the. World

983
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 8: there's no better place to DEVELOP nba talent than there

984
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 8: isn't In american.

985
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: Colleges, mike when you look At mike DE coursi is my,

986
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: guest of, Course Sporting, News big Ten network as. Well

987
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: when you look at this final, four you, KNOW i

988
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:14,240
Speaker 1: was looking this up. Yesterday everybody amongst these four, teams

989
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: they all shoot the three pointer in terms of shooting

990
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: percentage at a pretty even. Clip it's pretty even amongst the. Four,

991
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: however the volume is. Different illinois obviously shoots nearly double

992
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: over the course of the year than Did. Arizona whenever

993
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: you get into A Lucas oil. Stadium AND i know

994
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: this sounds, crazy and it doesn't mean for the totality

995
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: of the, game but sometimes early in the game it

996
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: takes shooters a, minute AND i know they have walked

997
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: throughs and, practices but the depth perception is just a

998
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: little bit. Different, okay is this A Final four that

999
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 1: can be won by An, illinois for, example by simply

1000
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: out three point shooting everyone so to? Speak will the

1001
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: three be a prevalent part of the storyline within This final?

1002
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 8: Four, Jake i've read in multiple times over the, years

1003
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 8: and more so even than, me there have been. STATTIICIANS

1004
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 8: i Believe Ken palmroy has done. This it's actually not

1005
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 8: as much impact on the performances as people think there.

1006
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 8: Are and one of the back when they used to

1007
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 8: put the regionals on, occasion what they would often do

1008
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 8: is use the regionals as a trial run for the

1009
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 8: following Year's Final. Four if The Final four was coming

1010
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 8: To indy one, year let's, say let's say it was

1011
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 8: come in twenty, ten they would put it In Lucas

1012
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 8: oil in two thousand and.

1013
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 1: Nine, well the regionals were here last, year right At Lucas.

1014
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 8: Oil they Don't they no longer feel compelled to do,

1015
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 8: that BUT i believe that they did that a year

1016
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 8: ago in a lot of. Cases but, anyway back when

1017
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 8: they used to do. That we would have games in

1018
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 8: traditional domes like The Alamo, dome which they've now retrofitted

1019
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 8: in a way that they can use The final four set.

1020
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 8: Up but back when they used to stick the court

1021
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 8: in the corner and then block off, half and then

1022
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 8: we had the basketball arenas like Say FedEx down In,

1023
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 8: memphis and then you would have the real the stadium

1024
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 8: look that they would use like At Lucas, oil like

1025
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 8: they'll use this. Weekend and so you could, Say, okay

1026
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 8: what were the shot numbers, here, there and? There AND

1027
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 8: i was able to look at, that and there really

1028
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 8: wasn't any difference as a matter of, fact in the

1029
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 8: year THAT i, Checked and it probably had something to

1030
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 8: do with the, teams BUT i think it said. Something

1031
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 8: the year THAT i, CHECKED i believe was two thousand and,

1032
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 8: nine the worst shooting performances were In FedEx In, memphis

1033
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 8: not in the. Domes so IT'S i think what you're

1034
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 8: seeing in those early parts really is they're, nervous, Right,

1035
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 8: yes it's that. Simple they it's The final. Four, man

1036
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 8: it's as big as it. Gets and, yeah, okay so

1037
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 8: the seventy five thousand people thing probably makes a difference

1038
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 8: more so than the shooting. Background kids grow up even,

1039
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 8: now playing on playgrounds where the with metal, rims metal

1040
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 8: nets and metal backboards and on occasion maybe not even a.

1041
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 8: Net remember those days where you'd hoop and you wouldn't

1042
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 8: have ever met the.

1043
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: Ball it completely would throw you off. Too it was

1044
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: like and it was like Watching Trey Kaufman wren's put.

1045
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: Back you're like, waiting did that go in or? Not

1046
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: and then you, know, oh my.

1047
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 8: GOSH i THOUGHT i thought that. BALL i thought he.

1048
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: MISSED i thought it was a.

1049
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 8: Ball it went so clean through the. HOOP i didn't

1050
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 8: think it went. In that was the most amazing.

1051
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: Thing, YEAH i listen back in the day and now

1052
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: we sound, like you, know the two old guys at

1053
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: the end of The. Muppets but the two biggest like

1054
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: discussions that would take place on the. Court one was

1055
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: whether or not you could actually technically call a foul

1056
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: right when you shoot a ball and it come outside a.

1057
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: Foul and then the other would be that like it

1058
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: did it go in or?

1059
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 7: Not?

1060
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: Right i'm telling you went through this this particular final, Four,

1061
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 1: mike what's your favorite storyline maybe that you know obviously

1062
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: we know the big, storylines but is there anything that

1063
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: jumped out at you where you thought to, yourself if

1064
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: more people knew the story of that, kid or that

1065
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: coach or that, team they would fall in love with.

1066
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 8: It, well one of the things THAT i really fell

1067
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 8: in love with through The sweet. SIXTEEN i, MEAN i

1068
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 8: have no Bradder underwood for twenty years since he was

1069
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,319
Speaker 8: an assistant For Bob huggins at K. State that's WHERE

1070
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 8: i met. Him he came up from The Juco's hugs

1071
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 8: hired him, there and then he went. On you, know

1072
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 8: he coached With Frank martin at K state After hugs

1073
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 8: went back To West, virginia and he eventually winds up

1074
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 8: At STEVEN. F austin doing a phenomenal job, there gets

1075
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 8: To Oak state for a, year and then he gets

1076
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 8: at the shot At. Illinois AND i knew he would

1077
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 8: take that shot if he got, it AND i knew

1078
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 8: he would, succeed BUT i didn't know he would succeed like.

1079
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 8: THIS i have a good friend In, Indy Jim, watson

1080
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 8: who is a LOT illinoi, alum and when they hired,

1081
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 8: HIM i, SAID i, SAID i think you're getting a

1082
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 8: really good. One and THEN i was nervous BECAUSE i

1083
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 8: promised him he was getting a good. Coach, WELL i

1084
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 8: think Coach underwood has backed up my. Promise but WHAT

1085
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 8: i loved about WHAT i heard from him was when

1086
00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 8: he was being questioned about being The illinois fight A

1087
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 8: lini playing Against Houston cougar's In, houston two miles from

1088
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:08,959
Speaker 8: THE uh, campus and his response to that, was, look,

1089
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 8: man it's been like twenty twenty five years SINCE i

1090
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 8: was driving a van From kansas with a bunch of

1091
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 8: junior college guys to go play a game In, Mesa.

1092
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 8: ARIZONA i don't care where you put The sweet. Sixteen

1093
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 8: i'm going If i'm in. It and it was just

1094
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 8: such a beautiful appreciation of how far he's, come AND

1095
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 8: i think any of us who've had some success can

1096
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 8: do the. Same and in my, CASE i started Off

1097
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 8: jake making seven dollars a. Story it was seven dollars plus.

1098
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 8: MILEAGE i don't know how many cents a, mile but

1099
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 8: it wasn't. Many seven dollars seven dollars a story for

1100
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 8: The Mononga Hailey Daily, herald which Was Joe montana's, hometown

1101
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 8: AND i covered high school sports for them for two

1102
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 8: and a half three, years and that's where it, starts

1103
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 8: and the best part of that story is it was

1104
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 8: seven dollar a story plus, mileage and then like about halfway,

1105
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 8: through they took away the. MILEAGE i caught them too.

1106
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: Much so you were hoping at that point you were

1107
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: just writing stories that were two miles from the, campus,

1108
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: right because you weren't getting the mileage, anyway.

1109
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:14,919
Speaker 2: Right.

1110
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 8: YEAH i was just happy to be able to learn

1111
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 8: how to do WHAT i, did AND i was so

1112
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 8: blessed to get that. OPPORTUNITY a high school friend of

1113
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 8: mine asked me if WHAT i was doing to try

1114
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 8: to get, ready and she, said you, know you should

1115
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 8: go down. There AND i drove down to The Daily

1116
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 8: herald office AND i walked up to the front desk

1117
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 8: and asked to speak to the sports editor and he

1118
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 8: came over and he said, okay and gave me a

1119
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 8: shot on the, spot and that was. IT i worked

1120
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 8: for them for the next two and a half years

1121
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 8: writing high school.

1122
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: Articles how many of those seven dollars stories did you

1123
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: have to write before you could properly spell Manonga heey

1124
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: within the Manonga, hala within the byline.

1125
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 8: Hey when you grow up on The Yaka Gainey.

1126
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 5: River but Agre haale was a walk in the, park, Right, yes, Absolutely.

1127
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: Hey, mike your favorite memories of and you had a

1128
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: great column and just you posted it yesterday is WHEN

1129
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: i read. It but your favorite memories of The Final.

1130
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: FOUR i loved the fact that you included And i'm

1131
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,680
Speaker 1: saying this just for the younger audience or for those

1132
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: that might not have lived here In india at the.

1133
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: Time you, know it's difficult to illustrate to people just

1134
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: how incredible and at the same time how surreal it

1135
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: was to have fifteen years removed From Bob knight's last undefeated,

1136
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: team to Have vegas come here here with a chance

1137
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: to cap off a perfect, season and that shock Of

1138
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 1: duke UPSETTING unlv and that ninety one final.

1139
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 2: FOUR i love that.

1140
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: You included that within some of your great. Memories but,

1141
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: man there have been a ton of great, memories haven't.

1142
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 8: There, ABSOLUTELY i mean that was number one for. ME

1143
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 8: i think that would have been my First Indie final,

1144
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 8: four and there have been several, since including The challenge

1145
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 8: one WITH covid in twenty, one and that certainly is

1146
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 8: a distinct. Memory but it was great that THE ncuba

1147
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 8: pulled that off and we got to crown a champion

1148
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 8: that year after the crushing disappointment of a year. Before

1149
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 8: But i'll say, this AND i will always say, this

1150
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 8: AND i know that it's probably a tougher thing for

1151
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 8: THE NC doublea to pull off now because, one so

1152
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 8: many people are building stadiums with dome so that they

1153
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 8: can get The final. Four and also the fact that

1154
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 8: once they moved, there they're headquarters To, indy they were

1155
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 8: kind of, biased so to. Speak But i've always believed

1156
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 8: that Every final four should be In. Indianapolis maybe we'd

1157
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 8: get tired of, it BUT i don't think. So Because

1158
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 8: INDIANAPOLIS i wrote, THIS i. Got one of the wonderful

1159
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 8: pleasures of my last year on the job was when

1160
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 8: The pacers made The final four or the championship series

1161
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 8: last year and the finals were coming back To indianapolis

1162
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 8: for the first time in twenty five. YEARS i got

1163
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 8: a chance to write about WHAT i learned in my

1164
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 8: decade In indy as a resident of the suburbs out

1165
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 8: there In fishers and talk about How indianapolis and the

1166
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 8: state Of indiana get basketball better than any other. PLACE i,

1167
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,680
Speaker 8: MEAN i lived AFTER i Left, pittsburgh my hometown WHERE

1168
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 8: i fell in love with the, game and almost no

1169
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 8: one else, did and almost all of those who did

1170
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 8: ended up leaving to become, successful Like Sean, Miller Herb

1171
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 8: sndek At Santa, clara the late Great Skip. Prosser we

1172
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 8: all left to search for, basketball so to. Speak AND

1173
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 8: i went To, memphis which was an incredible basketball city

1174
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 8: from the grassroots, up And, cincinnati which in the TIME

1175
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 8: i was, there was absolutely the best college basketball city

1176
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 8: because they Had xavier And cincinnati rocking at a top

1177
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 8: twenty five level and the rivalry was. Unbelievable and THEN

1178
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 8: i moved To, indy which Is it's just Basketball. HEAVEN

1179
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 8: i love the slogan we grow basketball because it absolutely

1180
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 8: captures the. State AND i got to write that article

1181
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 8: about what basketball means To indy and To indiana when

1182
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 8: they made the finals last, year and talked to a

1183
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 8: bunch of people around the. State Jason gardner who grew up,

1184
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 8: There Michael lewis who grew up In, indiana And indianapolis

1185
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 8: should have The Final four because they appreciate. It they

1186
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 8: put it on better than anybody else by, far but

1187
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 8: also they appreciate it more than.

1188
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 1: Anyone arizona's loan championship came here in the final four

1189
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: in ninety. Seven of, course under Lude Olsen Jason gardner

1190
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: took them to a final, four but they were not

1191
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: able to win. It illinois obviously is still in search

1192
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: of their first national. Championship michigan WON theirs in eighty,

1193
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: nine that was In, seattle and Then connecticut obviously has you,

1194
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: know we know What connecticut has done. Lately is there

1195
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: any of these four that you would consider to be

1196
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: an upset if they were to win? It?

1197
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 8: Yeah you con For illinois would be like if you

1198
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 8: look at the, ODDS i was just on a call

1199
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 8: with someone else and he gave me the odds per,

1200
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 8: team and it's slightly above even money For, michigan a

1201
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 8: little bit more than that For. Arizona then around four

1202
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 8: to one For, illinois AND i think six or seven

1203
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 8: to one For yukon something like. That AND i, think

1204
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 8: if you look at, yukon their team right now is

1205
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 8: very fortunate to be here. Now of, course they had

1206
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 8: to make their own, luck And braylan had to make

1207
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 8: the amazing, Shot but the things THAT i thought needed

1208
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 8: to happen for them to get here didn't happen all season.

1209
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,919
Speaker 8: Long Braylan mullins is a great, talent and he's going

1210
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 8: To he's going to get a chance to be AN

1211
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 8: nba first round. PICK i hope in twenty twenty, seven,

1212
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 8: honestly BECAUSE i don't think that his game has fully

1213
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 8: matured so that it's ready for the. League but he's

1214
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 8: a great, talent and they know, it and everybody on

1215
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 8: a team knows, it and all the coaches know, it

1216
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 8: and they know that in order to win the biggest,

1217
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 8: Games braylen's going to have to be who he is

1218
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,919
Speaker 8: at his. Best but it didn't happen in the first four.

1219
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 8: Rounds it really didn't happen until there were six seconds

1220
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 8: left in the in The duke. Ging so that to,

1221
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 8: me if they're able to win, IT i, mean Obviously

1222
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 8: braylan will have to be, special and it won't be

1223
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 8: an upset if he, is but it'll be it'll have

1224
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 8: been a long journey.

1225
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: BACK i, Think mike that The Danny hurley gets a

1226
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 1: lot of credit for two. THINGS i mean for a

1227
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: lot of. Things one of them is AND i want

1228
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: you to to tell me if this is an off base,

1229
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: observation BUT i look At Danny hurley AND i, say

1230
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: here's a guy that theoretically during the game, itself at

1231
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: times loses all self. CONTROL i, mean maybe he's within,

1232
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: control BUT i mean he's he's all over the, place,

1233
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: right he's right running up and you, know we get.

1234
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: That but at the end of that game Against, duke

1235
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: his team was in total, control and they they, made you,

1236
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: know the pass back To, mullins the presence of mind

1237
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: Of mullins to get that tip to pass to then

1238
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: get lined up for the, shot to know there's only

1239
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: four seconds, left to know that he's got to let it.

1240
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: Go all of those things coming into play, THERE i

1241
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: thought it was symbolic of good coaching because they looked

1242
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: prepared for the. Moment in addition to, THAT i Give

1243
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 1: hurley a lot of credit because shooters got to, shoot

1244
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: and if a shooter is not getting the, Ball i've always,

1245
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: said if you're playing horse with somebody and a guy

1246
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: that's a good shooter is not hitting, anything and then

1247
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: eventually he goes and forfeits one of his reps by

1248
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: getting to the free throw, line you don't want him

1249
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: hitting that free throw because then suddenly the field comes.

1250
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: Back but you got to have shooters to continue to,

1251
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: shoot And Danny hurley has Allowed mullens to do, that

1252
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 1: and eventually it paid off for. HIM i thought there

1253
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: were two examples there of really good.

1254
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 8: Coaching, oh, absolutely the presence of mind to look. Back

1255
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 8: the presence of mind Of brailin to get into the

1256
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 8: play after he retrieves the ball if you look at the.

1257
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 8: Play and this is what really just continues to baffle,

1258
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 8: me is that when the play, Happens Cayden boozer made

1259
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 8: a poor decision to try to force the ball Over

1260
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 8: brayleen and memory From. Yukon it was a poor. Decision

1261
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 8: the best decision there is to hold the. BALL a

1262
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:23,919
Speaker 8: lot of people said throw the ball toward the, ceiling. Etc.

1263
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 8: Etc and you could do those things and they could have.

1264
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 8: Worked but the basketball decision that everyone makes hold the.

1265
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 8: Ball let them, follow you go make some free throws

1266
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 8: in the games over and he made an awful decision

1267
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 8: to attempt to throw the pass and have it deflected by.

1268
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 8: Memory BUT i honestly think that if on a scale

1269
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 8: of what makes literal no, sense is that the second

1270
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 8: decision That Cayden boozer made was even, Poorer and that

1271
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 8: was When braylan went into the. Forecourt The duke forecourt

1272
01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 8: to get the ball and retrieve. It instead of going

1273
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 8: toward him and defending, Him boozer went all the way

1274
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 8: back to the. Lane he's twenty feet away From. Mullins

1275
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 8: when he takes the, shot he went back to guard.

1276
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 8: Nobody and if he stays in the, play here's what.

1277
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 8: Happened the ball goes To Alice caravan on the right.

1278
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 8: Wing Cameron boozer has come into the play so that

1279
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 8: he doesn't have a good. Shot, now he could take,

1280
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 8: it but he'd be, challenged it would be off, balanced

1281
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 8: it wouldn't be in. Rhythm he would have to try

1282
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 8: to dribble to kit some space and probably wouldn't have

1283
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,799
Speaker 8: gotten off a good. Shot but he saw That braylan

1284
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 8: was uncovered coming across the mid court line and threw

1285
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,639
Speaker 8: it back to. Him and If Kayden boozer had been

1286
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 8: in the, play that wouldn't have been a.

1287
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,839
Speaker 2: Vailable that passing lanes, closed, Right, YEAH.

1288
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 8: I mean he could still probably get it to, him

1289
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 8: because Because cayden's not going to reach out and try

1290
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 8: to deflect, that it would have to be an awful

1291
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 8: pass for him to. Get but he's there and so

1292
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 8: at that point the rhythm and the and they site

1293
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:04,679
Speaker 8: and all of that that was available for the shot

1294
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 8: would have been. Gone so that play probably just becomes the.

1295
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,840
Speaker 8: Heat and that's what really blows me. Away it was

1296
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 8: the second, decision, honestly That i'm even more vexed by

1297
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 8: than the.

1298
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:17,599
Speaker 1: First, Okay, Mike i'm going to end with. This i'm

1299
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: going to give you the same trivia QUESTION i gave

1300
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: To eddie. Earlier, Okay. OKAY i looked up today in

1301
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: THE Us news And World report academic rankings the final four.

1302
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 1: SCHOOLS i want you to rank to me what you

1303
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: would guessed don't, look don't don't, look but non ranking

1304
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: the final four schools of what you would assume them

1305
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: to be from from highest ranking to lowest ranking of

1306
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: the final four schools as it stands right now academically.

1307
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 8: Speaking go, Ahead Probably, Michigan, Illinois, Yukon. Arizona.

1308
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 2: Okay i'm writing down your.

1309
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 1: Guests we'll reveal it later in the.

1310
01:09:55,760 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 8: Program, MIKE i want to know what's AT i, said

1311
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 8: you're gonna have to text me BECAUSE i want to.

1312
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: KNOW i will text you the. Answer how's? THAT i

1313
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 1: will text you the?

1314
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,600
Speaker 2: Answer, Great, MIKE i appreciate it.

1315
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: MAN i know it's a really busy, time and CERTAINLY

1316
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: i hope you're able to soak in all the, joy the,

1317
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: fun and the atmosphere of The Final.

1318
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 8: Four thank, You. Jake i'll look forward to seeing.

1319
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 1: IT i appreciate. It MIKE'S coursi joining us on the. Program.

1320
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: Uh you know one of my favorite college basketball trivia questions, Also,

1321
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: Eddie this is a GREAT i have honestly about every

1322
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:34,599
Speaker 1: six months or, so this fabulous college basketball trivia question

1323
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 1: pops back into my. Head and when it, DOES i

1324
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: think to, myself that is such a great. Question and

1325
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: every TIME i ask, it people sit there and they

1326
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: even If i've asked it, before people have to sit

1327
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:48,479
Speaker 1: there and think and think and think and think and

1328
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: think and think on. It it's a great trivia, question

1329
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: And i've asked it on the radio so many. Times

1330
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 1: you would think the answer is household common. Knowledge BUT

1331
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: i love the. Question do you want to know the?

1332
01:10:58,360 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 2: Question?

1333
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 1: EDDIE i would like to know the ques yah diyed another,

1334
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 1: question are.

1335
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 2: You oh, Yeah i'm just on the edge of my.

1336
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: Seat, well stay on the edge Because i'll tell you

1337
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: a Couple. YES i hate to reveal, this But mike

1338
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: de course he got it.

1339
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 2: Right, YEAH i figured he.

1340
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: Did, Michigan, Illinois, Connecticut. Arizona thanks for letting me make

1341
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: my last official. Guests by the, way well you just heard.

1342
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 2: IT i wasn't my. Guess that was going to be

1343
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:34,200
Speaker 2: my guess, Though? Right how about this one? Then can

1344
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 2: we can we get?

1345
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: Determination the MORE i think about, it smarty pants means

1346
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: like somebody that thinks they're really, smart, right BECAUSE i

1347
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: don't think that at.

1348
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 3: All by the, Way So torreans at twelve ten on

1349
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 3: the text, line did text in the correct?

1350
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: Answer, Michigan, Illinois, Connecticut. Arizona, Right, yes how about this trivia?

1351
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: Question because we have a things to give, away do we?

1352
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: Not we already give away the Fan fast.

1353
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 3: Tickets we haven't given them. AWAY i was gonna ask

1354
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 3: you do we give them to? Touring since he had

1355
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 3: the guest correctively on the academic.

1356
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 2: Order, first.

1357
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: We could also keep in mind that if you want

1358
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:18,040
Speaker 1: to On friday witness The State farm three point and

1359
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 1: Slam dunk contests taking place at the Eklefield House Morning

1360
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: show AND J Andb Afternoon show all week. Long giving

1361
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: away those. Tickets they're not, now it's only Through. Wednesday,

1362
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 1: okay so through, tomorrow today and.

1363
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 2: Tomorrow, YEP.

1364
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: I thought the little cheat sheet they gave me said all.

1365
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: Week did they give me the wrong? Info? Okay how

1366
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: about this? Tribute here's my favorite college basketball trivia. Question

1367
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 1: i've asked this one hundred. Times if anybody's a regular

1368
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 1: listener to me on the, radio then, first thank you

1369
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 1: in my. Apologies but are you ready for this? One?

1370
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: Eddie i'm always ready to, drink.

1371
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: And WHEN i ask, IT i want you to first

1372
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 1: before you wager your instinctive, GUESTS i want you to tell, Me,

1373
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: eddie whether you have heard me ask this to you. Before,

1374
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: okay because probably ten. Times who was the last four

1375
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: year collegian to be selected number one overall in THE nba?

1376
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 2: Draft i've heard you asked this.

1377
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: Before it's a fabulous trivia.

1378
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 2: Question hasn't happened in two? Thousands? RIGHT i would have

1379
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 2: to look at the.

1380
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: Year that's a pretty big.

1381
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 2: Hint, YEAH i can't. REMEMBER i don't even have a.

1382
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: Guess it's a great, question is it? Not, yeah we

1383
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: would Give we're giving torrents those right the fan.

1384
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: Fest yes we, Can, yes certainly we can do.

1385
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,800
Speaker 1: That do we have anything? Else then to give away

1386
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:03,759
Speaker 1: for this particular, question we do not such a great trivia.

1387
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:05,639
Speaker 2: Question should have saved different.

1388
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: Tomorrow i'll tell everybody the answer coming up in a

1389
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: bit later in the. Program but it's a fabulous. QUESTION

1390
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 1: i want to get back to something that we mentioned

1391
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: earlier before we get back into and we will get

1392
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: back Into Colts news at THE Nfl owner's. Meeting but the,

1393
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:32,959
Speaker 1: situation and it becomes a a tenuous.

1394
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 2: ONE i get, it.

1395
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: And it also becomes one that, is for a number

1396
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: of different, reasons a very delicate. Topic and that's the

1397
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 1: situation With jade And. Ivy it's a delicate topic for

1398
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: a number of, reasons partially because you, KNOW i don't

1399
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,559
Speaker 1: Know jade And. IVY i think we feel like we

1400
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: get to know people when they grow up in our,

1401
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 1: area or represent a school or go to a school

1402
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: that we're, familiar or we know people that knew, them et.

1403
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: Cetera BUT i don't Know jade And. IVY i think

1404
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: that there's a little bit of an irresponsibility in the

1405
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: way that this is being portrayed or Reported jade And.

1406
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 1: Ivy everyone knows the. Backstory an elite level player At.

1407
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: PURDUE i, remember you, know hoping that The. PACERS i

1408
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: thought he would have been a really good fit. Here

1409
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: he was somebody that had because of his mother being

1410
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 1: involved with the fever and then coaching At Notre, dame

1411
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: had been. Around you, know there are pictures of him

1412
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 1: being held By pacer staffers when he was an. Infant

1413
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 1: so you, know he has a deep history here Within

1414
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 1: Central indiana And indiana basketball in. General but from the

1415
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: time he got into THE, nba and you see this

1416
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: unfortunately with some.

1417
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,440
Speaker 2: Players Lonzo ball comes to, Mind.

1418
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: Jonathan bender comes to, mind players, that for whatever, reason

1419
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,320
Speaker 1: from the time that they enter into the, league the

1420
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:20,919
Speaker 1: injury bug just continues to hit them and it literally

1421
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: pumps the brakes on their. Potential and in the case

1422
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 1: Of jade And, ivy that was certainly the case In.

1423
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 1: Detroit he had moments In detroit where he was showed

1424
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: the promise and the, flashes But detroit also had you,

1425
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 1: know they have a really good young, roster goes without,

1426
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:44,599
Speaker 1: saying and they have, blossomed and they have, blossomed kind

1427
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: of Surpassing jade And, ivy who then was traded To

1428
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: chicago and again injury ended his. Season since that, Time

1429
01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,519
Speaker 1: jade And ivy during the time that he has not

1430
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: been on the, floor has done what we have seen

1431
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: other athletes in the past. Do Antonio brown comes to.

1432
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: Mind Le'Veon ball comes to. Mind where you get guys

1433
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 1: that turn to social media and whether it be podcasts

1434
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: or videos or whatever, else but start kind of going

1435
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: through this stream of conscience where people are, like what is?

1436
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: Happening here are we witnessing like a mental breakdown before

1437
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: our very eyes or a cry from help and whatever.

1438
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:42,719
Speaker 1: Else and sometimes a player is unfairly or inaccurately lumped

1439
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 1: in or labeled based on the precedent that happened before

1440
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:54,360
Speaker 1: with other, PLAYERS i Said Leveon bell Obviously Le'Veon bell

1441
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 1: And Antonio brown for, example like when they would would

1442
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,080
Speaker 1: underwent things where they start making outlandish statements and whatever,

1443
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 1: else and people are what is going? On and so

1444
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 1: therefore when players turn to doing videos and podcasts of

1445
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 1: just opining in a stream of, conscience it's automatically labeled

1446
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,639
Speaker 1: of here's another example of a guy that's. Lost it

1447
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that that's exactly what is. Happening and their

1448
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 1: religion is not a mental. Illness it is not now

1449
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 1: it is AND i am not a, psychologist nor AM

1450
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: i a. Therapist but there are certain subject matters that

1451
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 1: when one goes through a manic phase or goes through

1452
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:43,520
Speaker 1: in epiphanal point.

1453
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 2: Of, life that are.

1454
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: Deep down retrospective things that might, be you, know speaking

1455
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,639
Speaker 1: out for. Help there are certain subject matters that are

1456
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: more prevalent within those dialogues than, others and religion is

1457
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 1: one of. Them so when people go to, that you

1458
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 1: also think you wonder if that's not what this is

1459
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: the one thing With Jaden ivy to me THAT i

1460
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 1: don't think that we can say with accuracy and with

1461
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: totality until The Chicago bulls come out and say we

1462
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 1: are Waiving Jaden ivy because he made anti gay, comments

1463
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: until they come out that overtly and they have said

1464
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: conduct detrimental of the. Team, well some of the things

1465
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: THAT i have Seen Jaden ivy, saying And i've seen

1466
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 1: some of these, videos and admittedly today in today's, world

1467
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: you've got to go back and look and you're, like,

1468
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: okay so is this AN ai generated?

1469
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 2: Video is this a real?

1470
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: Video one of them THAT i, Saw Jaden ivy talks

1471
01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: about the fact that he has turned the page on

1472
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:53,479
Speaker 1: his former, self the basketball, player and he lumps some

1473
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: of the indiscretions that he is essentially atoning. For he

1474
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 1: almost categorizes it as being part of the lifestyle that

1475
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:07,959
Speaker 1: was within his basketball, life and he talks about alcohol

1476
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 1: use and fornication and other. Things but he continued to

1477
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 1: attribute that towards but that was my basketball. Life And i'm,

1478
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 1: paraphrasing but he. Is within the video series that he

1479
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 1: has been putting, out it is almost as though it

1480
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:27,440
Speaker 1: is a farewell to the game of, basketball and considering

1481
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: that he is not available to play right now as

1482
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: it is, anyway combined with the fact that he is

1483
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 1: expressing a desire to move on from the. GAME i

1484
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: don't know the backstory and whether or not The Chicago

1485
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 1: bulls didn't, say, hey there are other things in play

1486
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: here that need to be.

1487
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 2: Addressed i'm not saying.

1488
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 1: Emphatically that the comments that he made are not those, that,

1489
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: again based on, precedent other people have not been unfairly

1490
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:00,920
Speaker 1: perhaps reprimanded, for or fair whichever way you want to

1491
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: look at it in terms of your definition of free

1492
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: speech and whatever. Else one of the things THAT i

1493
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,719
Speaker 1: think people often confuse The First amendment in The United

1494
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 1: states Of america does not protect you from professional ramification

1495
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 1: for the statements that you. Make it protects you from

1496
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 1: the government being able to incarcerate you for, it but

1497
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 1: it does not mean that your employer can't come to

1498
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 1: you and, say we don't agree with what you, said

1499
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: and we don't want you representing. US i don't know

1500
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: that to be the case or not with The, bulls

1501
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: And i'm not opining on whether or not that would

1502
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: be a fair statement by The. Bulls What i'm saying,

1503
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: IS i think If Jaden ivy was a guy doing

1504
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 1: exactly this in between games where he was scoring twenty

1505
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,439
Speaker 1: six a, NIGHT i don't know that he gets. Waived

1506
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 1: the fact that he is an injured player who is

1507
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:50,760
Speaker 1: now talking about moving on from the game of, basketball

1508
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:55,000
Speaker 1: or rather being at times emotionally held down because of

1509
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: his commitment to the game of. BASKETBALL i think that

1510
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: factors in as much as. Anything but one of the

1511
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: things things THAT i think is unfortunate about it as.

1512
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: Well there are multiple things that he has said in these,

1513
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 1: videos whether true or, not that seem to be things

1514
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: that need to be addressed for him as a human.

1515
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 1: BEING i went back and watched to make sure that

1516
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,719
Speaker 1: it was, legitimate and by all account WHAT i saw

1517
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 1: it was a, legitimate legitimate video where he talked about

1518
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,799
Speaker 1: as a, child being abused as a, child and notably

1519
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: being sexually abused and assaulted as a, child and he

1520
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,599
Speaker 1: goes into he doesn't name names or go into, detail

1521
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 1: but he does not shy away from that that right

1522
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 1: there is the thing That i'm, like that's what should

1523
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 1: be addressed for any person as a human being when

1524
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: you Have he talks about childhood trauma a, ton And

1525
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 1: i'm telling. You in twenty, TWENTY i did a series

1526
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,240
Speaker 1: WHERE i had lunch with thirty different homeless people in

1527
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: the city Of. Indianapolis thirty lunches in thirty. DAYS i

1528
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 1: called it in partnership With Wheeler. Mission so all thirty

1529
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,400
Speaker 1: people THAT i had lunch with were aware of the

1530
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: fact that we were having lunch AND i was going

1531
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 1: to talk to them just about their journey and their

1532
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 1: path to. Homelessness AND i went back and looked at my.

1533
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: Notes in twenty seven of the thirty people THAT i

1534
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 1: talked to talked about childhood. Trauma some of them were

1535
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:25,719
Speaker 1: set in the world of, fire but the childhood trauma

1536
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: was never dealt, with never, addressed and it came back

1537
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: into them and into the forefront of their, mind and

1538
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 1: that became a reawakened ghost they couldn't. Shake and to,

1539
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:41,599
Speaker 1: me With jade And, ivy aside from whether or not

1540
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 1: the bulls were right or, Wrong aside from whether or

1541
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 1: Not jade And ivy's comments are right or, wrong the

1542
01:23:48,160 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 1: thing THAT i think needs to be the epicenter of

1543
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 1: the discussion with it when it comes to those close to,

1544
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: him is the fact that he is outwardly talking about

1545
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: a trauma from his childhood that continued to apparently plague

1546
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 1: him today and is a human being from a compassion,

1547
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 1: STANDPOINT i think that's what needs to be the. Focus

1548
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 1: i'll tell you the answer to the trivia question other. Side, Okay,

1549
01:24:16,360 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 1: eddie the trivia, question.

1550
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:21,680
Speaker 2: You thought more about. IT i.

1551
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: Have, Hey, jake somebody Says i'm not doing this for

1552
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: the trivia BECAUSE i. Can't BUT i believe It's Kent.

1553
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,600
Speaker 1: Benson AM i? Correct that is not, Correct, Pat that

1554
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 1: is not Correct Ken.

1555
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:38,600
Speaker 3: Benson, HOWEVER i believe the first letter of that name is.

1556
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 2: Correct Correct Ken.

1557
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:46,719
Speaker 1: Benson the answer to Two Great trivia questions Until cooper

1558
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 1: Flag Ken benson was the last White caucasian selected number one,

1559
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: overall But Cooper flag obviously is now that. Answer Ken

1560
01:24:57,160 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: benson also the only player to unwisely Racked Kareem Abdul

1561
01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 1: jabbar and then have his career basically go in shambles

1562
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: thirty seconds.

1563
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 2: Later not a good, Plan.

1564
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 1: Kenyon.

1565
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:15,719
Speaker 3: MARTIN i was ABOUT i was gonna have a trivia

1566
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 3: question for, You, jake and go ahead and response to the.

1567
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 3: ANSWER i think there are four in, Total Kenyon, martin

1568
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 3: kJ martin one of Them Lebron James junior And Lebron

1569
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 3: james one of four father son duos to play for

1570
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,799
Speaker 3: the SAME nba, franchise but not at.

1571
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 1: The brodny And lebron of the first to do it

1572
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 1: at the same, time, obviously. RIGHT i will go with,

1573
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: Uh Dolph shays And Danny.

1574
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 2: Shays you're going way too. Well they're all recent.

1575
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: They, are, Okay Tim hardaway And Tim Hardaway.

1576
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 2: JR i would have to double check on that, one.

1577
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 3: Which i'm trying to remember this off the top of

1578
01:26:10,360 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 3: the head, Here Mark, boyle they mentioned of it the other.

1579
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: Day the top of your, head by the, way not

1580
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 1: unlike the top Of Devil's. Tower there's muskrats living up,

1581
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 1: there stuff going, on, Right.

1582
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 3: YEAH i do know who at least THERE'S i know

1583
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:24,600
Speaker 3: one more for.

1584
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 1: Sure So Jimmy walker And Jalen rose is not one of. Them, no, okay.

1585
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 2: Hit Me.

1586
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 3: Glenn Doc rivers In Austin rivers, okay m for.

1587
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 2: That, matter.

1588
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 1: Did Glenn Robinson junior ever play for The spurs of The? Bucks, no,

1589
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: now he did play for The wisconsin.

1590
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 2: HURT i do think he did play, there but not

1591
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:53,240
Speaker 2: for The, bucks.

1592
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,599
Speaker 1: Okay because that would be potentially one of. Them who

1593
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 1: would be the?

1594
01:26:56,080 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 3: Other Then Del curry AND i Believe Seth, oh, YEAH

1595
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 3: i forget About.

1596
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:05,560
Speaker 1: Seth seths kind of been a, journeyman.

1597
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: So that would make that would be the other. One,

1598
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 2: yeah that.

1599
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 1: Would definitely make.

1600
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 2: Sense. Uh pacers At.

1601
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 1: Action by the, Way tomorrow night taking on the Bulls

1602
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:16,440
Speaker 1: eddie in terms of where things stand with the, pacers

1603
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: AND i always get confused by, this the where things

1604
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 1: stand for the pacers as far as are they now

1605
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 1: locked in? Two can? They can they not jeopardize any

1606
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: further where things stand of their likelihood of landing in

1607
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 1: the top. Four so right, now because there still work

1608
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 1: could be, done there's still losses to be, had if

1609
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 1: that is the mindset that you are. In because right

1610
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: now there was a tie for the worst record in

1611
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 1: the association between The Indiana pacers and The Washington. Wizards

1612
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 1: head to head does not come into play when there's

1613
01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 1: a tie in the. Lottery would you like to know

1614
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 1: how they decide who gets?

1615
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 5: What?

1616
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 1: Pick divisional, record no more recent to have selected number.

1617
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 1: One no head to head is not one of. Them

1618
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:22,559
Speaker 1: no conference, record no which drafted higher the previous, year no,

1619
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 1: alphabetical no color.

1620
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 2: Scheme that would be.

1621
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 1: Incorrect is it when you give me the, answer are

1622
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 1: you going to, say, oh that makes perfect sense or

1623
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 1: is it.

1624
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 2: Like what in the world would you like to know the? Answer,

1625
01:28:40,160 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 2: yes a coin? Toss you know? WHAT i should have known,

1626
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,600
Speaker 2: That And i'll say you how DID i not know?

1627
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:49,360
Speaker 1: That i'll tell you. Why because the most famous coin

1628
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 1: toss of all because they played it over the loud

1629
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 1: speaker At Alisonville Elementary school FROM wibc our sister station

1630
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:05,680
Speaker 1: at the. Time the coin toss For Ralph sampson and

1631
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 1: The pacers were on the wrong end of it and

1632
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 1: ended up With Steve, stopotovitch who was not a bad.

1633
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 1: Player BUT i should have known coin. Toss But Indiana

1634
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 1: washington have how many wins?

1635
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 2: Each?

1636
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 1: Seventeen seventeen seventeen H, Yes Brooklyn nets have eighteen. Wins

1637
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 1: if you are looking at it in the standings in

1638
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: terms of best to, Worst indiana would be a game Behind.

1639
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 1: Brooklyn if you're looking at it in an inverse, order

1640
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 1: meaning worst record at the, top best record at the,

1641
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 1: bottom The pacers would have an, advantage.

1642
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 2: Okay of a.

1643
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 1: Game but easier way to say, This Indiana washington seventeen,

1644
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 1: Wins brooklyn has. Eighteen who's?

1645
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,599
Speaker 2: Next sacramento has, Nineteen sacramento has?

1646
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 1: Nineteen, okay then then who's?

1647
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 2: Next Uh utah with twenty? One So?

1648
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 1: Utah is it twenty? One The pacers have how many games?

1649
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 1: Remaining they have se seven, games seven games. Remaining they,

1650
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 1: have so a game With brooklyn that is the most.

1651
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 1: Noteworthy but if right now the benchmark is twenty, one

1652
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 1: regardless of what happens in their remaining seven, games they

1653
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 1: need to win no more than four because if they

1654
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: were to win four, games if they're to go four and,

1655
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,719
Speaker 1: three they would end with twenty one. Wins that assures,

1656
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:31,479
Speaker 1: them that guarantees them that at the very least they

1657
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 1: would be. One they would be tied If utah does

1658
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 1: not win another game for the fifth, worst assuming that

1659
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,640
Speaker 1: everybody else below them does not surpass twenty. One so

1660
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 1: the magic number here is essentially three would be. Ideal

1661
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: going three and four would be ideal because you want

1662
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 1: to be If i'm not, mistaken you want to be

1663
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 1: in the bottom four.

1664
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 2: Records you want to be in the bottom, three.

1665
01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 1: The bottom. Three i'll give you five fifty two point

1666
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 1: two percent chance.

1667
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 3: Fifty two point one percent for a top four if

1668
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,360
Speaker 3: you finish. Fourth, uh it's twelve point five percent for

1669
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 3: first and forty to two point one for top.

1670
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: Four say that one more. Time if you have the

1671
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 1: fourth worst.

1672
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 3: Record, okay you have a twelve point five percent chance

1673
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 3: for the first pick and a forty eight point one

1674
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 3: percent chance of a top.

1675
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 1: Four, okay so Your because here's the thing for those

1676
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,719
Speaker 1: unfamiliar with what we're getting, at is, this The pacers

1677
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 1: have traded their first round pick in the upcoming, draft

1678
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 1: but it is. Protected if that pick is the, first, second,

1679
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: third or fourth pick in the, draft.

1680
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 2: It stays With.

1681
01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 1: Indiana if it falls to fifth through, tenth it goes

1682
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:45,560
Speaker 1: To Los. Angeles for that, reason you want to maximize

1683
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 1: your possibilities of drafting one through. Four the odds of

1684
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 1: drafting one through four are at their highest if you

1685
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 1: are one of the three worst teams at the end

1686
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,200
Speaker 1: of the. Season so they need to assure that they

1687
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 1: are one of the three. WORST i thought it was,

1688
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 1: four it's three, Three so they have a two in gap.

1689
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 1: Between so they do not want to win three more.

1690
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 1: Games they want to finish two and.

1691
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:16,719
Speaker 3: Five, sure, yeah, sure they have a game Against. Brooklyn

1692
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,919
Speaker 3: that is of. Note washington also Faces.

1693
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 1: Brooklyn sacramento does not play anybody within the bottom.

1694
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 2: Four they just lost To brooklyn On.

1695
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 1: Sunday so in a perfect, world you would Want washington And. Brooklyn,

1696
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:35,840
Speaker 1: basically would you want them to split then or would

1697
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 1: you Want brooklyn to win? TWICE i guess you would

1698
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 1: want them to split so they each only Get no

1699
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:43,559
Speaker 1: you want these, Teams, yeah you want both of them

1700
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 1: getting at least a, win, Right brooklyn?

1701
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,040
Speaker 3: Play, Yeah brooklyn And washington just played, once and that

1702
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 3: is On. SUNDAY i Thought pacers Play brooklyn?

1703
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 2: Once got? You So brooklyn has a game left Against

1704
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:56,599
Speaker 2: indiana And.

1705
01:32:56,680 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 1: Washington an d has Only brooklyn they do not Have washington. Left,

1706
01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 1: correct correct the Remaining, okay let's let's go over The

1707
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 1: pacers real. Quick The pacers remaining schedule go At Chicago,

1708
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 1: wednesday At. Charlotte hold, on hold on At, chicago let's

1709
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 1: say they lose. That then what At. Charlotte let's say

1710
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 1: they lose there In? Cleveland, yeah, okay they'll lose that

1711
01:33:18,280 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 1: home Against.

1712
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,680
Speaker 3: Minnesota the timing of that has, changed so if you

1713
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:23,759
Speaker 3: have a printout, calendar it is now at seven.

1714
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 2: O'clock that was a game that was originally at seven

1715
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 2: thirty or. Eight which what day is?

1716
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 1: That that is A, Tuesday april, Seventh, okay, gotcha that

1717
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 1: game has been taken off a national. Time i'm going

1718
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,160
Speaker 1: to say they win that, one, Okay, okay then they

1719
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 1: go To. Brooklyn let's say they screw up and win.

1720
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 8: That.

1721
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:44,840
Speaker 3: Okay then they are home Against philadelphia And.

1722
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 1: Detroit they'll lose those last, two so there's two of them.

1723
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:51,640
Speaker 1: THERE i would say That detroit game could be, SNEAKY i,

1724
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 1: know Because detroit could be resting, everybody.

1725
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 2: Right, yes.

1726
01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:59,440
Speaker 1: The colts owners MEETING nfl owners meeting out In arizona

1727
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 1: get into, that including some things That Chris ballard said

1728
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 1: of note Next, eddie.

1729
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,640
Speaker 2: How about THE. U is there a birthday going on

1730
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:13,160
Speaker 2: At Cluster TRUCK i think today Is Cluster Truck.

1731
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 1: Day they just. Don't was that a birthday? CAKE i

1732
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,000
Speaker 1: don't know what it was BECAUSE i inhaled. It that was.

1733
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 1: UNBELIEVABLE i went with the Chief caseadia. Today jakeb felt like.

1734
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:28,959
Speaker 1: You you know that WHEN i go to a, RESTAURANT

1735
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:33,080
Speaker 1: i questadillas and. GUACOMLAY i always ordered it that way

1736
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 1: just to see if they.

1737
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:35,720
Speaker 2: Correct, really, yeah you're that.

1738
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 1: Guy, Yeah i'm that guy that birthday cake outstanding or

1739
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:42,759
Speaker 1: the cake in general outstanding From Cluster truck.

1740
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,719
Speaker 2: Us come a big fan for five dollars off twenty

1741
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 2: five or. More you got a haneful of.

1742
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:52,000
Speaker 1: Opportunities love for the dunk fest that is only on

1743
01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 1: days in which there are tournament games between THE ncaa

1744
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 1: men and women in the final four for, both get

1745
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:01,680
Speaker 1: two pounds of the chicken and strips which are, fantastic

1746
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:02,680
Speaker 1: some chu.

1747
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 3: RoHS other goodies in there as. Well Cluster truck dot

1748
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:09,320
Speaker 3: com plus you can just code big fan of five dollars.

1749
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 1: Off in addition to, that by the, way in terms of,

1750
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 1: value and you talk about getting that using the code

1751
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 1: At Cluster. Truck always a great value for a force

1752
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 1: him to come out and golf at The Legends Golf.

1753
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 1: Club and we are going to be there On april.

1754
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 1: Thirtieth would love to see. You one oh seven five

1755
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 1: thefan dot com is the, website mark your calendar for.

1756
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 1: It it is The Franciscan Health Foundation Golf. Outing we

1757
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 1: will be out there doing the. Shows Kevin bowen will

1758
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 1: be amazing you with his driving prowess and in addition to,

1759
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:50,679
Speaker 1: That Franciscan health will be there with you, know screenings going,

1760
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 1: on able to answer all of your questions and all

1761
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:56,640
Speaker 1: of the proceeds will benefit The Franciscan Health. FOUNDATION i

1762
01:35:56,760 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 1: forget whether it's individual or for some one oh seventy

1763
01:35:59,360 --> 01:35:59,640
Speaker 1: five The.

1764
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 3: Fan i've heard That Tucker barnhardt will be in, Attendance

1765
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 3: Matt taylor will be, There Eddie, white others will be

1766
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 3: attending as.

1767
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: Well That eddie's got to be a good, golfer right

1768
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 1: he golfs three hundred and sixty four days a.

1769
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:15,040
Speaker 2: Year did you know? THAT i do know?

1770
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 1: That, yeah and clearly us his son in when he's

1771
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 1: out there on the, course right sure it's.

1772
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 3: Worth do you remember who we tuck in the beer

1773
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 3: bet for? BASEBALL i can't remember you which TEAMS i.

1774
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:28,760
Speaker 2: TOOK i.

1775
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 1: Do thank you for asking, yesterday and we'll get into

1776
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:32,560
Speaker 1: The cults owners meeting here in just second or THE

1777
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 1: nfl owners meeting in just a. Second the last NIGHT

1778
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:43,439
Speaker 1: i watched The Blue. Jays they were at home against The. Rockies,

1779
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:44,880
Speaker 1: now are The rockies going to be any good this?

1780
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 1: Year it's The Colorado, Rockies. Jake the answer is always.

1781
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,759
Speaker 1: No like The Chicago White, sox they've been to The World.

1782
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:57,759
Speaker 1: Series The Blue jays had one of those games where

1783
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 1: they were using a cup catcher pitch the last three

1784
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 1: innings straight up like it was straight up batting.

1785
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:08,120
Speaker 2: Practice uh huh? Brutal is that?

1786
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 1: Bad?

1787
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:09,599
Speaker 2: Eh you?

1788
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:17,120
Speaker 1: Took now our caller has The a's and The. GIANTS

1789
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:18,799
Speaker 1: i believe both are, winless Right.

1790
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 2: A's and The? Giants that you have.

1791
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:25,280
Speaker 1: The baseball standings before?

1792
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 2: You, yes.

1793
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 1: Okay what is the total number of wins right now

1794
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 1: representative between The a's and The? Giants who know one?

1795
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 2: Win?

1796
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 1: Uh you have The Pittsburgh, pirates they have how many?

1797
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 2: Wins one?

1798
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:40,080
Speaker 1: Win how many did The Arizona diamondbacks have one win

1799
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 1: off to a blazing. Start how many do The Chicago

1800
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 1: White sox? Have, uh The Chicago White sox have one?

1801
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:50,639
Speaker 1: Win how many do The Cleveland guardians? Have they have three?

1802
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:55,760
Speaker 1: WINS i have The guardians in The White. Sox, YEAH

1803
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:57,080
Speaker 1: i was gonna Take. Cleveland you took them right in

1804
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 1: front of.

1805
01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 2: ME i was, like damn. It. Uh owners.

1806
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 1: Meetings bottom line is This Carli. Terza gordon has, Spoken

1807
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:07,200
Speaker 1: Chris ballard has.

1808
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:13,880
Speaker 3: Spoken there was an update A Stephen holder earlier Noted

1809
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 3: jake that he was waiting to hear what The Roger

1810
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 3: goodell was going to say about the situation between the

1811
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 3: referees and the. LEAGUE nfl owners have approved a Competition committee.

1812
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 3: Proposal for, One you're only allowing THE Nfl officiating department

1813
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 3: to correct clear and obvious misses made by on field

1814
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:38,639
Speaker 3: officials that impact the game and the. Event replacement refs

1815
01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:40,880
Speaker 3: are used for the twenty twenty six.

1816
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:45,840
Speaker 1: SEASON i don't follow what any of that.

1817
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 2: Meant can you say that? Again?

1818
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:47,360
Speaker 1: Please?

1819
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 2: So do you remember the Fail?

1820
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:54,679
Speaker 3: Mary of course that would not happen in this, event

1821
01:38:54,840 --> 01:39:00,640
Speaker 3: because basically they can have a, competition can many to

1822
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:03,479
Speaker 3: overlook or not a competition, community but THE nfl officiating

1823
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 3: department to overlook the every single game that's going, on

1824
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 3: and if there's a clear and obvious miss call or

1825
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 3: something that they did not get, right then they can

1826
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:13,400
Speaker 3: call in and be, like, hey.

1827
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 2: You gotta screwed this. Up this is what should, happen

1828
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 2: or this is what should be.

1829
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:19,759
Speaker 1: Done that didn't happen.

1830
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 3: Before, no not when not with the replacement. Officials, no

1831
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 3: that did not. HAPPEN i can't even remember what year

1832
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:30,040
Speaker 3: the Film mary. Was it was pretty, awesome.

1833
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 1: Though, yeah the bigger core of what was, said And

1834
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 1: i'm a cynic in general just about. THIS i, mean

1835
01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 1: THE nfl has masterfully put itself in the forefront of.

1836
01:39:40,280 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 1: Everything we all talk about, it, right we're doing it right.

1837
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 1: Now but it is kind of like off season. Chapter

1838
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,840
Speaker 1: everybody gets together down at a big resort In arizona

1839
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:52,600
Speaker 1: and they go over changes like that that SEEMINGLY i

1840
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:55,439
Speaker 1: don't know how the regular casual fan even notices the

1841
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 1: difference and said. Change But.

1842
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 3: Okay the other change was that THE nfl owners have

1843
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:03,679
Speaker 3: approved the rule proposed by These steelers to make permanent

1844
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 3: in twenty, twenty the rule that they ran out there

1845
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 3: this year as a test run to allow teams to

1846
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:12,320
Speaker 3: have one call with up to five.

1847
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 2: Unrestricted free agents during the legal tampering. Period, okay and

1848
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 2: what was it? Before you couldn't make any calls.

1849
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 1: And we believe that, That so wait a, minute let

1850
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 1: me ask you. This so you couldn't make any calls

1851
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 1: during the legal tampering.

1852
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:33,439
Speaker 2: Period directly to, PLAYERS i believe.

1853
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 1: In so in what way were you supposed to tamper with?

1854
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 1: Them what's App? HONESTLY i, MEAN i Know i'm a,

1855
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 1: moron but if contact is not allowed during legal, tampering

1856
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 1: then what exactly is? Tampering and what is legal about?

1857
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 1: It how is it that we know that players have

1858
01:40:59,320 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 1: come to a remit with a team before free agency

1859
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 1: begins and they announce it if they were not allowed

1860
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:07,879
Speaker 1: to contact, it are they sending smoke? Signals?

1861
01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 2: HOW i?

1862
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 1: MEAN i know him a moron And i'm being somewhat

1863
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 1: facetious but somewhat serious, Here LIKE i don't understand what

1864
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:25,679
Speaker 1: we're talking. Here but either, Way Chris ballard did talk

1865
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 1: to a couple of. Hours you, know he talked To

1866
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 1: steve and he talked to you, Know James boyd is

1867
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:31,320
Speaker 1: down there and is going to Join Jeff, rickard who's

1868
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 1: in For john coming up later in on the station,

1869
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:40,680
Speaker 1: here but let's begin with. This Chris ballard was on

1870
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 1: With Kay adams as part of The up And Adams,

1871
01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 1: show and she asked About Anthony richardson and the trade

1872
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:54,839
Speaker 1: or the possibility thereof With Anthony, richardson And Chris ballard

1873
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:55,799
Speaker 1: had this to, Say.

1874
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah we'll.

1875
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:58,719
Speaker 6: SEE i, mean you, KNOW i got where his, agent

1876
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 6: who's done a really good job With, anthony and Where

1877
01:42:01,240 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 6: anthony's you, know mindset. Is nothing's materialized at this, point

1878
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:07,000
Speaker 6: so we'll see what happens going.

1879
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:07,640
Speaker 2: Forward to proud Of.

1880
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 6: Anthony he's had some bad luck, unfortunately But i'm proud of.

1881
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 6: Me Like anthony's a good like he's a good young,

1882
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:17,880
Speaker 6: man he's a good. Teammate like when he didn't win the,

1883
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:19,759
Speaker 6: job that was kind of one of the cool things

1884
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:24,799
Speaker 6: that came out of, It like watching him learn and

1885
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 6: be an unbelievable, teammate you, know was that was fun to.

1886
01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 1: Watch, okay a couple of things, here And i'm gonna

1887
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 1: nitpick number. One just a personal preference and people can feel.

1888
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,400
Speaker 1: FREE i would like to. Know actually SOMETIMES i don't

1889
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:45,479
Speaker 1: trust myself AND i would like to, know and people

1890
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 1: can feel free to send me a text right. NOW i,

1891
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 1: mean give you a, thought and THEN i want you

1892
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:54,800
Speaker 1: to tell me at five two three ninety two eighty

1893
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 1: eight whether or not you agree or disagree with my.

1894
01:42:57,080 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 1: THOUGHT i don't think that it's ill and And i'm

1895
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 1: not saying it to pick on, him per. Se BUT

1896
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 1: i noticed in talking about several players That Chris ballard

1897
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 1: talks about how he's proud of, them really proud of.

1898
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:21,600
Speaker 1: Him AND i know this is probably me being, nitpicky

1899
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 1: But i'm curious if anybody else agrees with me on.

1900
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 1: This i'm a little uncomfortable in saying it BECAUSE i

1901
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 1: don't always trust myself in my judgment of what of

1902
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 1: WHERE i might come off sounding the wrong, way BUT

1903
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:39,080
Speaker 1: i think it's really. CONDESCENDING i know he doesn't mean

1904
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 1: it that, way but these are grown. Men i'm proud

1905
01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:47,479
Speaker 1: of an eight year old that learned how to ride a.

1906
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 1: Bike i'm proud of a high school kid that got

1907
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 1: cut as a freshman and came back and made the

1908
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 1: team as a. Sophomore i'm. SURE i Mean i'm proud

1909
01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 1: of my, parents per. Se BUT i feel like when

1910
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 1: you're talking about the, adversity And i'm using that in

1911
01:44:06,080 --> 01:44:10,760
Speaker 1: air quotes here because being a professional, athlete sure there's

1912
01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 1: adversity in anybody you know with a. Job but like

1913
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,960
Speaker 1: if someone were to ask me about somebody that we

1914
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:22,120
Speaker 1: work with within the, BUILDING i wouldn't necessarily, say, like you,

1915
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 1: know we had some things that. Work But i'm just

1916
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 1: really proud of. HIM i know That Chris baller technically

1917
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:32,800
Speaker 1: because he is the general. Manager he IS i guess the.

1918
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 1: Superior but these are grown. MEN i don't, know just

1919
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 1: it it sounds a little. BIT i think it sounds,

1920
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:42,680
Speaker 1: condescending and Maybe i'm way off based on, that AND

1921
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 1: i apologize IF i, Am But i'm curious if anybody

1922
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 1: else thinks That i'm like.

1923
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 2: Totally.

1924
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 1: Wrong and every TIME i hear, that just being, like

1925
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:57,720
Speaker 1: really that's the. Word but, anyway, NONETHELESS i. Digress what

1926
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:00,559
Speaker 1: are you? Saying right there Is litt and we have

1927
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:02,640
Speaker 1: a car that we put at the bottom of the.

1928
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:06,519
Speaker 1: DRIVEWAY i said this EARLIER i went. OUT i had

1929
01:45:06,560 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 1: to buy a New Family. SEDAN i kept every TIME

1930
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:12,519
Speaker 1: i kept taking to the car to the, Mechanic they're, like,

1931
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 1: look you're gonna have to replace these, tires and you're

1932
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 1: gonna have to get a new car here. Soon AND

1933
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 1: i kept kicking the can down the, road and then

1934
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 1: FINALLY i, said you know, What i'm getting the new

1935
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 1: family sedan to take the kids to, school take the

1936
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:26,080
Speaker 1: kids a little, league drive it to. Work AND i

1937
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 1: got a super sleek sports. Car and people were, like,

1938
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:34,679
Speaker 1: okay the sports. Car LOOK i, mean that looks really

1939
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:37,840
Speaker 1: good and it looks super, impressive but how does it?

1940
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 2: Ride?

1941
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:40,599
Speaker 1: WELL i mean it's a little rough in the snow

1942
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:42,759
Speaker 1: and it's got front wheel, drives so it's not great

1943
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 1: in those. Situations but on a perfect day it. IS i,

1944
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:49,760
Speaker 1: mean everybody stares at it light, today, correct everybody'd stare

1945
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:52,439
Speaker 1: at it. Right and that's what he bought for the family.

1946
01:45:52,439 --> 01:45:54,559
Speaker 1: Sadan he waited, forever and he got one because he

1947
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:58,160
Speaker 1: fell in love with the way it looked and was

1948
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:00,639
Speaker 1: hoping that every day was in fact to be, perfect

1949
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 1: so that then it would be. Functional and yet every

1950
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:09,960
Speaker 1: time he took it, out something went, wrong something, rattled

1951
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 1: some pissed and, misfired something went wrong with, it to

1952
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 1: the point where finally everybody else on the block and

1953
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:23,200
Speaker 1: within the family we're, like, look you've got to get another.

1954
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 1: Car this just is not. Reliable so now he's got

1955
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 1: the car at the bottom of the driveway and he

1956
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 1: had a big sign in the window that says twenty

1957
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 1: five hundred DOLLARS obo or best, offer and no one has.

1958
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 1: Called so now when people are, like, hey what happened

1959
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 1: to that sports car that you were driving around taking

1960
01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 1: the kids to? School what's going on with? That have

1961
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 1: you had any offers? Yet you, know we. Haven't But

1962
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:55,639
Speaker 1: i've realized that that just it really is a good.

1963
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 1: Car it really is a good, car and, It i'll tell,

1964
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:01,599
Speaker 1: you in the right circumstance that says you are happy

1965
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:03,600
Speaker 1: to have. It you got to talk it up just

1966
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 1: in case an offer comes. Through you just Do, Hey,

1967
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 1: JAKE i think When ballard does, that it's part of his.

1968
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:15,840
Speaker 1: Stick he's a really nice. Guy you're not going to

1969
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 1: fire a guy that's a, really really nice. Guy he

1970
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 1: loves his, players he's such a nice. Guy why AM

1971
01:47:20,800 --> 01:47:27,640
Speaker 1: i going to fire this? Guy, okay MAYBE i just

1972
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:30,240
Speaker 1: the whole Like i'm proud of everybody. Thing to, Me

1973
01:47:30,360 --> 01:47:32,439
Speaker 1: i'm just there's just a little bit of smug to.

1974
01:47:32,520 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 1: It BUT i could be. Wrong BUT i think with

1975
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:38,439
Speaker 1: the case Of Anthony, richardson he's got to speak up

1976
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:41,720
Speaker 1: what kind of a Teammate Anthony richardson is and how

1977
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 1: Well Anthony richardson handled adversity without disrupting, anything because he

1978
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:49,720
Speaker 1: knows whoever is bringing In Anthony richardson is going to

1979
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 1: bring him in as a backup, quarterback and he needs

1980
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 1: to make absolutely certain that anybody who was even given

1981
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:59,480
Speaker 1: a half a thought About Anthony richardson joining their franchise

1982
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:02,759
Speaker 1: is probably be thinking about, it thinking That Anthony richardson

1983
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 1: is going to come into said franchise and be a

1984
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 1: backup emergency. Quarterback so he wants to make absolutely certain

1985
01:48:09,160 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 1: that place knows he's not going to give you any.

1986
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 1: Problems trust, me give me a sixth round or for

1987
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 1: them And i'll tell you. More that's what that is.

1988
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:23,360
Speaker 1: Now Anthony richardson lost the job To Daniel, jones And

1989
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:26,679
Speaker 1: Daniel jones of course we know what, happened And Carli

1990
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:29,799
Speaker 1: Orsa gordon had, SAID i loved THAT i was Watching

1991
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 1: i'm paraphrasing watching a movie and it's like it was

1992
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 1: paused and then the movie went, south AND i just

1993
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:38,680
Speaker 1: want to come back and hit unpause and pick the

1994
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:40,760
Speaker 1: movie up where it was when we left off at

1995
01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 1: eight and. Two, okay and so can that? Happen that

1996
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:52,840
Speaker 1: begins by wondering whether or Not Daniel jones is going

1997
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 1: to be able to walk right in step with where

1998
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:58,840
Speaker 1: it was when the movie was. Paused And Chris ballard

1999
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 1: at the owner's meeting met With overton Of colts Dot

2000
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:05,000
Speaker 1: com and answered and gave the update as to the

2001
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:06,519
Speaker 1: status Of Daniel.

2002
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:07,679
Speaker 2: Jones it's in a great.

2003
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:11,160
Speaker 6: PLACE i, mean, look nobody's gonna. Outworking he almost got

2004
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:13,599
Speaker 6: to pull the reins back in on him a little.

2005
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:15,080
Speaker 2: Bit but so, far so.

2006
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 6: GOOD i, mean like time heals any. Injury so we'll

2007
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 6: take it to day by day and continue to. Rehab

2008
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 6: he's doing a. Lot he's, uh he's actually able to

2009
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:31,439
Speaker 6: throw and do some things with his upper, body some

2010
01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:33,680
Speaker 6: overbody mechanics that we were working on last year that

2011
01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:36,560
Speaker 6: he was working. On so he's able to kind of

2012
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:39,200
Speaker 6: get some things done THAT i think he didn't realize

2013
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 6: it to start that he's going to be able to.

2014
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 6: Do so that's been. Good but one thing you don't

2015
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 6: ever worry about is his. Work his work, Ethic like

2016
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:48,599
Speaker 6: he is going to, work and he cares about not

2017
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:52,479
Speaker 6: only the team's, performance but his, performance and you know

2018
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:54,600
Speaker 6: he understands him being Healthy he's going to.

2019
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 2: Be a big part of.

2020
01:49:55,240 --> 01:50:00,000
Speaker 1: THAT i think when it comes To, jones the big

2021
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 1: the question mark is going to be just simply Which

2022
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:06,679
Speaker 1: Daniel jones stands up.

2023
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 2: And how soon does he get back to feeling like?

2024
01:50:10,360 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 1: Himself, yeah because a big part of who he was

2025
01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 1: as a, quarterback in particular when he was playing well

2026
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:18,720
Speaker 1: was his, mobility.

2027
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:22,080
Speaker 3: And not just like he didn't run in a, ton

2028
01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 3: but just the bootlegs and the play action getting on

2029
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,600
Speaker 3: the run and throwing the football to kind of move the.

2030
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 2: Pocket, YEAH i, mean.

2031
01:50:32,120 --> 01:50:39,759
Speaker 1: And, EDDIE i think coming back from an, injury coming

2032
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:44,800
Speaker 1: back from a physical. AILMENT i, MEAN i wouldn't say

2033
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:47,439
Speaker 1: THAT i had an. Injury i'm not a professional, athlete

2034
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 1: BUT i had to go through a physical.

2035
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 2: REHAB i had an. Injury yours was net, Right.

2036
01:50:55,240 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 1: Yeah acl meniscus sophomore year high. School and so you

2037
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 1: were out how long.

2038
01:51:02,439 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 2: Physically six?

2039
01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:10,040
Speaker 1: Months how long after that did you hesitate when you

2040
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:15,639
Speaker 1: had to run out of the batter's. Box how long

2041
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 1: was it in your?

2042
01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 3: Head probably another three to four maybe upwards of a

2043
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:22,960
Speaker 3: year in total from time it happened to time of

2044
01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:25,960
Speaker 3: right where you can feel like you can trust your

2045
01:51:26,040 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 3: knee or your leking and.

2046
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 1: Say the trust of the knee is going to be the, question,

2047
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 1: right the trust of the knee is going to be the.

2048
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 1: Question and of, course if for some reason it doesn't

2049
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:38,120
Speaker 1: work out With Daniel, JONES i don't think that's going

2050
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:42,080
Speaker 1: to be the. Case we don't, know and we won't

2051
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:44,600
Speaker 1: know that for probably a. Year but, nonetheless if The

2052
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 1: colts are even thinking about and yes they Have Ry

2053
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:49,920
Speaker 1: leonard on the, roster and technically they still Have Anthony

2054
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:53,760
Speaker 1: richardson on the, roster but if they're thinking about a

2055
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 1: quarterback of the future not Named Daniel, jones WHICH i

2056
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:58,240
Speaker 1: don't think is the, case but if they, did it's

2057
01:51:58,240 --> 01:51:59,679
Speaker 1: not going to be in the form of a first

2058
01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 1: round over the next two. Years AND i think we

2059
01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 1: can dig a little bit deeper on What Chris ballard

2060
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 1: had to say about the group and the staff that

2061
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 1: he has that helps him try to find an answer

2062
01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:17,800
Speaker 1: not for a first round or but in a later

2063
01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 1: round of the.

2064
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:19,679
Speaker 2: Draft we got.

2065
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 6: Great group and they, WORK i, mean they do a

2066
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:25,960
Speaker 6: great job of identifying what fits through the. YEARS i

2067
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:27,800
Speaker 6: MEAN i think back to you, know the years we

2068
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 6: got you, Know jonathan And. Pitt we've done really well

2069
01:52:31,479 --> 01:52:34,000
Speaker 6: in the you, know second round, on not that we

2070
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:35,760
Speaker 6: haven't done good in the, first but second round. On

2071
01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 6: AND i give my staff a lot of credit for.

2072
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:41,599
Speaker 6: That they do a great job identifying who fits what

2073
01:52:41,640 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 6: we want defensively or, offensively and they work really hand

2074
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 6: in hand with our coaches to make sure we're you,

2075
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:50,840
Speaker 6: know when we're drafting and taking that, player that we

2076
01:52:50,920 --> 01:52:52,439
Speaker 6: have a vision for who he's going to.

2077
01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 2: Be you, know right now we have seven.

2078
01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:58,240
Speaker 6: PICKS i would guess that we end up with, more

2079
01:52:58,600 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 6: so we'll, see you never know when.

2080
01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 1: Draft, okay so, again draft Capital jamb's favorite. Term maybe

2081
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 1: that's in play where he trades back a little bit.

2082
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:14,480
Speaker 1: Whatever AND i do think that we can very easily

2083
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 1: fall victim to.

2084
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:17,479
Speaker 2: Or buy.

2085
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:21,919
Speaker 1: Into there's two kinds of sixth round success.

2086
01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:24,960
Speaker 2: Stories and this.

2087
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 1: Is true not just in The ballad, ERA i mean

2088
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:33,639
Speaker 1: across the, board in any. Franchise there are two kinds

2089
01:53:33,800 --> 01:53:43,320
Speaker 1: of eight round contributors eight round success. Stories there are

2090
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:49,880
Speaker 1: those that you draft and they blow you. Away Antoine

2091
01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:54,840
Speaker 1: bethay is a prime, Example Robert mathis is a good

2092
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:58,080
Speaker 1: example of a guy that you draft him and it's,

2093
01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:01,639
Speaker 1: like holy, cow can't keep this guy off the. Field

2094
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:05,040
Speaker 1: he's got to be on the. Field we had no

2095
01:54:05,160 --> 01:54:10,840
Speaker 1: idea that it was going to translate like. This and

2096
01:54:10,840 --> 01:54:15,840
Speaker 1: then you have guys that are there because you are

2097
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:21,120
Speaker 1: making your, roster you are figuring out the finances of,

2098
01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:26,080
Speaker 1: it and you are looking at it and, Saying, Okay

2099
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 1: i'm committing twenty percent of my financial, payroll my salary

2100
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:39,960
Speaker 1: cap payroll to. More let's let me reverse. That i'm

2101
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 1: committing seventy percent of my payroll under salary cap to

2102
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:45,840
Speaker 1: twenty percent of my. Roster my quarterbacks getting a, ton

2103
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 1: my running backs getting a, Ton my wide receivers are

2104
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 1: getting a. Ton and Then i've, got you, know. LINEBACKERS

2105
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:54,160
Speaker 1: i got a corner That i'm paying a. Lot So

2106
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 1: i've got to find three positions Where i've got to

2107
01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 1: pay a minimum salary at three. Spots and it's up

2108
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:09,520
Speaker 1: to the, owner the general, manager and the head coach

2109
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 1: to figure out which three spots and their opinion and

2110
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 1: then their system are the most expendable and where you

2111
01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 1: can hide. Guys i've always said part of why youth

2112
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:24,320
Speaker 1: soccer is so, big certainly thirty years ago white it

2113
01:55:24,360 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 1: was so, big is because youth soccer is the one

2114
01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 1: sport that if your child is not overly interested in

2115
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:33,640
Speaker 1: sports or overly, athletic but you want them to learn physical,

2116
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:37,480
Speaker 1: exercise the importance of, teamwork having a job to do at, practice,

2117
01:55:37,520 --> 01:55:41,920
Speaker 1: commitment et. Cetera youth soccer is the one sport where

2118
01:55:41,960 --> 01:55:46,400
Speaker 1: you can put them in that sport and they can

2119
01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:48,920
Speaker 1: play it and kind of mask if they're not a

2120
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 1: great athlete or they don't like the. Limelight they never

2121
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 1: have to get in the batter's, box they never have

2122
01:55:54,120 --> 01:55:56,520
Speaker 1: to go to the free throw. Line they can go

2123
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 1: out there and just kind of run around and be

2124
01:55:59,400 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 1: masked a bit and still learn the value of. Team

2125
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:04,960
Speaker 1: that's why that's now amongst. Many don't get me, wrong

2126
01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 1: but there is a percentage of people at a young

2127
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:10,520
Speaker 1: age that that is why youth soccer is great for

2128
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:11,000
Speaker 1: their young.

2129
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:12,520
Speaker 2: Person and.

2130
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:21,440
Speaker 1: In, baseball Little league, baseball the reality is that typically

2131
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:23,880
Speaker 1: the kid sitting out in right field is probably not

2132
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:27,480
Speaker 1: the best hand eye coordination. Fielder he doesn't have the

2133
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 1: same accuracy of throw as the kid you have playing at.

2134
01:56:30,160 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 1: Shortstop he's maybe more afraid of like the ball on

2135
01:56:33,640 --> 01:56:35,360
Speaker 1: a line, Drive so you put him in the right

2136
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:37,280
Speaker 1: field because you can mask him a little bit, there

2137
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:41,640
Speaker 1: and on AN nfl, roster it's no. Different the one

2138
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 1: thing that is in common with that is the fact

2139
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:49,440
Speaker 1: that if you indeed have to take two or three

2140
01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:53,800
Speaker 1: players or position that is cost, cutting then you do

2141
01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:57,720
Speaker 1: that by using a player that you are not investing

2142
01:56:57,760 --> 01:57:00,120
Speaker 1: a lot in and kind of putting him there and just, Saying,

2143
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:05,120
Speaker 1: okay we're going to take our chances that the whatever

2144
01:57:05,160 --> 01:57:09,560
Speaker 1: it may, be the free safety or the weekend, corner

2145
01:57:09,640 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 1: week side, corner our guys were were giving them reps

2146
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 1: because we've got to do so at the least price.

2147
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:21,480
Speaker 1: Tag and so then you can, say, wow what a

2148
01:57:21,520 --> 01:57:25,560
Speaker 1: brilliant pick a seventh rounder who's, starting or an undrafted

2149
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:28,520
Speaker 1: free agent who's, starting or you can look at it and, say,

2150
01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 1: well the reality is that's because there are three spots

2151
01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:32,600
Speaker 1: that that needs to be the.

2152
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:34,160
Speaker 2: Case it happened With.

2153
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:37,560
Speaker 1: Pollion it, happened it'll happen With ballad as. Well but

2154
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:40,840
Speaker 1: you do like getting pieces though that you look at

2155
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 1: and you go, okay like is a Hunter woller that

2156
01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:46,400
Speaker 1: last year got. Hurt, yes and he looked like he

2157
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:48,640
Speaker 1: was going to be a really good. Player Justin wally

2158
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:49,720
Speaker 1: looked like he was going to be a really good.

2159
01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 1: Player both got. Hurt and those are examples of. Hitting

2160
01:57:53,720 --> 01:57:57,040
Speaker 1: they hit on those, guys it would, appear but don't get.

2161
01:57:57,040 --> 01:57:59,680
Speaker 1: Fooled Sometimes, also if like an eighth rounder suddenly is

2162
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:01,440
Speaker 1: playing lot and you're, like oh, wow and then you're, like,

2163
01:58:01,480 --> 01:58:04,440
Speaker 1: well the numbers dictate they kind of need to or

2164
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:05,200
Speaker 1: seventh round or.

2165
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 2: Whatever EAST b eighth, rounder seventh.

2166
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:10,080
Speaker 1: Round now you know a late round pick that you

2167
01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:13,440
Speaker 1: look at and you, say oh, wow an undrafted free.

2168
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:17,360
Speaker 1: Agent sometimes it's by, necessity but a lot of That,

2169
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:23,200
Speaker 1: also the finances of it may come down to Carl.

2170
01:58:23,320 --> 01:58:27,040
Speaker 1: Orse gordon And Chris ballard spoke about her and the

2171
01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:30,160
Speaker 1: work that she's done and that balance between the finance

2172
01:58:30,200 --> 01:58:31,520
Speaker 1: side of it and the football side of.

2173
01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:32,760
Speaker 2: It we'll let you hear.

2174
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:37,480
Speaker 1: Next Scott agnes just a couple of minutes from, Now Fieldhouse,

2175
01:58:37,480 --> 01:58:42,200
Speaker 1: Files pacers And action tomorrow night taking on The bulls In.

2176
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:47,040
Speaker 1: Chicago AM i the only? One by the way when

2177
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:49,680
Speaker 1: it comes to the city Of chicago and sports that's,

2178
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:52,040
Speaker 1: like can The bears just let us know when they

2179
01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:56,240
Speaker 1: make a decision, Here, LIKE i don't need the every

2180
01:58:56,440 --> 01:58:59,600
Speaker 1: ten days flip flop and updates Of hammon and then

2181
01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 1: It's Arlington, heights and then It's, hammond and then It's Soldier,

2182
01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:06,320
Speaker 1: field then it's back To. Hammony, okay Maybe i'm the only.

2183
01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:10,800
Speaker 2: One carli Ers gordon at the owner's.

2184
01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:13,280
Speaker 1: Meeting you, know she is now the principal, owner and

2185
01:59:14,280 --> 01:59:22,200
Speaker 1: obviously she and her two sisters were have been, involved you,

2186
01:59:22,240 --> 01:59:26,680
Speaker 1: Know Kaylin, Jackson Kaylyn Erse, jackson and Then Casey Ersay.

2187
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 1: Foyt caylen has been very involved in the kicking the stigma,

2188
01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:38,560
Speaker 1: initiatives and Certainly Carl Ursa gordon is the one that

2189
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:42,120
Speaker 1: has been you, know that's where the buck, stops right

2190
01:59:42,160 --> 01:59:46,280
Speaker 1: the final decision maker as the oldest sister of the,

2191
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:51,280
Speaker 1: three AND i think a lot of us there has

2192
01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:54,080
Speaker 1: been a lot of discussion, about you, know with her

2193
01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:56,440
Speaker 1: wearing the headsets and being involved and being on the

2194
01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:59,040
Speaker 1: sidelines and taking notes and just trying to soak in

2195
01:59:59,080 --> 02:00:01,720
Speaker 1: as much as she, can but how much of that

2196
02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:06,960
Speaker 1: is trying to understand the business aspect OF nfl, ownership

2197
02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:10,120
Speaker 1: and how much of that is understanding the football aspect

2198
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:13,440
Speaker 1: of winning football. Games Jim irsay was of course somebody

2199
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:16,680
Speaker 1: who was around football from the time that he was

2200
02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:18,760
Speaker 1: a young. Boy i'm not saying that that's not the

2201
02:00:18,760 --> 02:00:21,680
Speaker 1: case With, carly But, jim you, know playing, football being

2202
02:00:21,720 --> 02:00:24,680
Speaker 1: in locker, rooms and his dad making him work at every,

2203
02:00:24,720 --> 02:00:28,760
Speaker 1: aspect every, angle and every nuance of a. Franchise and

2204
02:00:28,800 --> 02:00:32,000
Speaker 1: then of Course Jim ersay was a general manager before

2205
02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:34,520
Speaker 1: he became the principal owner upon the passing of his.

2206
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:40,280
Speaker 1: Father AND i have always felt That Jim ersay once

2207
02:00:40,600 --> 02:00:43,720
Speaker 1: his father passed and Once Jim ersay became the, owner

2208
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:47,720
Speaker 1: AND i understand, THIS i respect, it BUT i do

2209
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:51,040
Speaker 1: feel like the one area of football Where Jim ersay

2210
02:00:51,200 --> 02:00:54,560
Speaker 1: was not great was owner was general. Manager he could

2211
02:00:54,560 --> 02:00:57,560
Speaker 1: be great, owner but he was not a great general,

2212
02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:00,280
Speaker 1: manager AND i think that that always bothered him and

2213
02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:03,480
Speaker 1: he was always trying to scratch that itch that was within,

2214
02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:06,880
Speaker 1: him which is why he overstepped at, times especially, late

2215
02:01:07,640 --> 02:01:10,760
Speaker 1: for those that were making. Decisions but as For CARLY. Ersa,

2216
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:16,160
Speaker 1: gordon in his conversation With Lara, Overton Chris ballard did

2217
02:01:16,240 --> 02:01:19,280
Speaker 1: speak about that balance of understanding the business, side the

2218
02:01:19,280 --> 02:01:26,480
Speaker 1: football side and now being for the first real season

2219
02:01:26,520 --> 02:01:29,360
Speaker 1: here moving forward with things underneath, her the principal owner

2220
02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:29,560
Speaker 1: of The.

2221
02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:33,280
Speaker 6: Colts, well she's in. Charge Mister ursay was in. Charge

2222
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:36,840
Speaker 6: there's just a there's just a. Difference she's in she's

2223
02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:41,360
Speaker 6: in charge along with you, know her. Sisters so it's

2224
02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:43,800
Speaker 6: it's different when you sit in that. Chair it just

2225
02:01:43,960 --> 02:01:48,120
Speaker 6: it is because, now ultimately you're part of the decision making,

2226
02:01:48,200 --> 02:01:51,240
Speaker 6: process which she always, was but now the ultimate you,

2227
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:54,240
Speaker 6: know say, HEY i approve what you're, doing let's move.

2228
02:01:54,320 --> 02:01:58,600
Speaker 6: Forward and she's, great And i've said this multiple, times

2229
02:01:58,640 --> 02:02:03,400
Speaker 6: but like she is a, deep deep. Thinker she doesn't

2230
02:02:03,480 --> 02:02:06,360
Speaker 6: just see one level of a. Problem she can see,

2231
02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:09,920
Speaker 6: three four levels out and so she asks really good.

2232
02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:14,080
Speaker 6: QUESTIONS i think the work she's put in over the

2233
02:02:14,160 --> 02:02:17,920
Speaker 6: last at least Since i've been, here in terms of

2234
02:02:17,960 --> 02:02:22,080
Speaker 6: spending time in, football not not just in scouting or coach,

2235
02:02:22,280 --> 02:02:27,640
Speaker 6: like in every area of football allows her that education

2236
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:34,280
Speaker 6: over that time period really allows her to ask deep

2237
02:02:35,240 --> 02:02:40,040
Speaker 6: thought provoking questions when we're making. Decisions and that is very. Valuable,

2238
02:02:41,360 --> 02:02:43,640
Speaker 6: yeah very very grateful for her and grateful for her.

2239
02:02:43,720 --> 02:02:46,000
Speaker 6: Knowledge and then the, work LIKE i have so much

2240
02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:49,000
Speaker 6: respect of the work like she put the work, in

2241
02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:50,560
Speaker 6: and now she's going to see the fruits of the

2242
02:02:50,640 --> 02:02:52,000
Speaker 6: labor now that she's you, know in.

2243
02:02:52,080 --> 02:02:54,360
Speaker 1: CHARGE i think that's.

2244
02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:54,640
Speaker 2: Fair.

2245
02:02:55,440 --> 02:02:58,880
Speaker 1: CERTAINLY i don't think anybody questions her, commitment no question about.

2246
02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:05,720
Speaker 1: That and the reality is all of the things that

2247
02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:10,000
Speaker 1: were somewhat unforeseen or somewhat unprecedented of a younger owner

2248
02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:14,320
Speaker 1: standing on the, sidelines taking, notes wearing the. Headsets the,

2249
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:19,520
Speaker 1: truth in my opinion is if they win a lot of,

2250
02:03:19,560 --> 02:03:21,400
Speaker 1: games that's all going to be, praised and if they,

2251
02:03:21,400 --> 02:03:25,520
Speaker 1: don't that's all going to be. Questioned And i'll just

2252
02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:27,560
Speaker 1: say this once BECAUSE i don't necessarily want to go

2253
02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:29,320
Speaker 1: down a rabbit hole that people are going to, get

2254
02:03:29,600 --> 02:03:31,440
Speaker 1: you know whatever. About but if she was a male

2255
02:03:31,440 --> 02:03:33,440
Speaker 1: and not a, female nobody would think twice about most of.

2256
02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:38,120
Speaker 2: It it's just the way a lot.

2257
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:42,400
Speaker 1: Of people handle. Sports unfair but. True Scott agnes joins

2258
02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:45,000
Speaker 1: us now from Field House, Files pacers And Action Tomorrow

2259
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:49,960
Speaker 1: night taking on The, bulls And scott will begin WITH

2260
02:03:50,040 --> 02:03:51,920
Speaker 1: i guess when it comes to this game tomorrow, night

2261
02:03:52,040 --> 02:03:53,600
Speaker 1: kind of the elephant in the, room and that is

2262
02:03:53,680 --> 02:03:57,240
Speaker 1: the story Of jade N. IVY i got into it.

2263
02:03:57,280 --> 02:04:00,280
Speaker 1: EARLIER i went fairly in depth on. It But jade

2264
02:04:00,280 --> 02:04:04,200
Speaker 1: And ivy being waived by The, BULLS i guess your overall. Reaction,

2265
02:04:04,360 --> 02:04:06,440
Speaker 1: clearly he is out for the rest of the year with.

2266
02:04:06,640 --> 02:04:10,640
Speaker 1: Injury but you, know how did you interpret that.

2267
02:04:10,760 --> 02:04:14,560
Speaker 5: NEWS i took it as The Chicago, bulls who are

2268
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:17,800
Speaker 5: not doing, well are, looking you, know or one of

2269
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:20,040
Speaker 5: those bottom tier teams in the league are trying to

2270
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:22,760
Speaker 5: remove a distraction here for the final couple weeks of the.

2271
02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:25,360
Speaker 5: Season he was a guy that was acquired at the trade,

2272
02:04:25,400 --> 02:04:28,920
Speaker 5: deadline has been mostly. HURT i think early on maybe

2273
02:04:28,920 --> 02:04:31,880
Speaker 5: he wanted to play and they didn't want, him and

2274
02:04:31,880 --> 02:04:34,760
Speaker 5: then he was ruled out for the season and all,

2275
02:04:34,840 --> 02:04:37,000
Speaker 5: along even since the, TRADE i didn't expect for them

2276
02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:39,520
Speaker 5: to bring it bring him back next, year and SO

2277
02:04:39,640 --> 02:04:42,360
Speaker 5: i think it was a matter, of you, know be

2278
02:04:42,480 --> 02:04:44,560
Speaker 5: who you can afford to, be and in this, Case

2279
02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:47,720
Speaker 5: jayden was a guy that was unavailable and, injured and.

2280
02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:49,280
Speaker 4: So let's remove him from the.

2281
02:04:49,320 --> 02:04:54,120
Speaker 2: Equation, yeah AND i think that's AS i had said.

2282
02:04:54,160 --> 02:04:57,120
Speaker 1: Earlier, scott the one thing that bothered is the wrong,

2283
02:04:57,200 --> 02:05:00,760
Speaker 1: Word BUT i think to just say The bulls have

2284
02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:03,480
Speaker 1: Waived Jaden ivy because of particular.

2285
02:05:03,560 --> 02:05:06,120
Speaker 2: Comments to, Me i'm, like, LOOK.

2286
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:09,840
Speaker 1: I don't think that's accurate because there's a lot more

2287
02:05:09,840 --> 02:05:12,480
Speaker 1: that goes into. It and If Jaden ivy was averaging

2288
02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:15,000
Speaker 1: seventeen points in twenty nine minutes a, game there's no

2289
02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:16,280
Speaker 1: way that that, happens, Right.

2290
02:05:16,360 --> 02:05:18,560
Speaker 5: Oh one hundred, percent exactly. Right it was one of

2291
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:21,680
Speaker 5: those cases where he's not contributing on the. Courts so

2292
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:23,400
Speaker 5: the last thing you want is for that guy to

2293
02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:26,720
Speaker 5: speak up. Elsewhere now what he's getting into and some of,

2294
02:05:26,760 --> 02:05:30,200
Speaker 5: That like you, know there's been a lot of arguments

2295
02:05:30,240 --> 02:05:32,919
Speaker 5: about that and should he have free speech from that, respect,

2296
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:35,360
Speaker 5: Right but what it comes down to is he's not

2297
02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:38,760
Speaker 5: playing there for The, bulls him being in a contract,

2298
02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:41,000
Speaker 5: year just Like Benedict mathern is same draft.

2299
02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:43,720
Speaker 4: Class this is the direction The bulls felt more comfortable.

2300
02:05:43,760 --> 02:05:46,080
Speaker 1: Going speaking of, that do you Think Benedict MATHERN i

2301
02:05:46,120 --> 02:05:49,160
Speaker 1: realized that since he's In Los angeles now and playing

2302
02:05:49,200 --> 02:05:52,600
Speaker 1: for The, clippers that you know that's you don't cover The,

2303
02:05:52,600 --> 02:05:55,800
Speaker 1: Clippers but just from what you've been able to, See reid,

2304
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:59,400
Speaker 1: follow do you believe That Benedict matherin could possibly factor

2305
02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:02,080
Speaker 1: into The clippers plans beyond this.

2306
02:06:02,240 --> 02:06:03,800
Speaker 2: YEAR i.

2307
02:06:03,920 --> 02:06:06,720
Speaker 5: DO i do just the level of score and he's

2308
02:06:06,760 --> 02:06:09,360
Speaker 5: played With he seems to be pairing nicely With kawhi

2309
02:06:09,400 --> 02:06:12,320
Speaker 5: and With kawai, obviously you never know what his health has.

2310
02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:14,960
Speaker 5: Been when he's, great he's still playing at a NEAR

2311
02:06:15,080 --> 02:06:17,920
Speaker 5: mvp caliber. Level and at the same, time Though, jake

2312
02:06:17,960 --> 02:06:21,360
Speaker 5: we've known for several years, now This clippers team has

2313
02:06:21,400 --> 02:06:25,080
Speaker 5: shaped up their salaries to have a lot of money

2314
02:06:25,360 --> 02:06:28,480
Speaker 5: for this upcoming summer of twenty twenty six and to

2315
02:06:28,520 --> 02:06:31,720
Speaker 5: be able to spend and, such and ULTIMATELY i think

2316
02:06:31,760 --> 02:06:34,120
Speaker 5: will come down to who has the best. OFFER i

2317
02:06:34,160 --> 02:06:36,800
Speaker 5: think With matthew with this first big, CONTRACT i think

2318
02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:38,440
Speaker 5: he'll go for the best offer on the.

2319
02:06:38,480 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 4: Table it could be The, clippers they'll have his. Rights

2320
02:06:41,440 --> 02:06:41,760
Speaker 4: but the.

2321
02:06:41,680 --> 02:06:45,800
Speaker 5: Grand scheme of, it honestly is there hasn't been much

2322
02:06:45,800 --> 02:06:48,480
Speaker 5: of a market for restricted free, agents which means teams

2323
02:06:48,480 --> 02:06:52,400
Speaker 5: can match any offer out, there and so we've seen

2324
02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:55,800
Speaker 5: other players get into. It Jonathan kamina previously With Golden,

2325
02:06:55,840 --> 02:06:59,160
Speaker 5: state so that is more favorable for the. Teams BUT

2326
02:06:59,200 --> 02:07:02,280
Speaker 5: i Think mathern's his worth and you got. It AND

2327
02:07:02,320 --> 02:07:04,000
Speaker 5: i go back to the fact that he's still dealing

2328
02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:05,720
Speaker 5: with a turf two injury he suffered in Like game

2329
02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:07,920
Speaker 5: two of the, season and so he should be better

2330
02:07:07,960 --> 02:07:10,560
Speaker 5: off after a healthy and RESTful offseason as.

2331
02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:13,480
Speaker 1: Well Scott agnes is my guest Field House, files where

2332
02:07:13,480 --> 02:07:15,440
Speaker 1: you could read his Work scott heading down the home

2333
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:18,760
Speaker 1: stretch here we figured it out basically for the pacer

2334
02:07:18,880 --> 02:07:22,640
Speaker 1: seven games. Remaining they want to stay in that bottom,

2335
02:07:22,840 --> 02:07:26,680
Speaker 1: THREE i guess to mathematically give themselves the best chance

2336
02:07:26,800 --> 02:07:31,520
Speaker 1: at a top four. Pick as it stands right, now

2337
02:07:32,600 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 1: nineteen wins if everybody just lost, out nineteen would be

2338
02:07:36,480 --> 02:07:40,640
Speaker 1: that benchmark, realistically do you when you look at, it

2339
02:07:40,680 --> 02:07:43,440
Speaker 1: do you think they do have kind of a number

2340
02:07:43,480 --> 02:07:45,680
Speaker 1: in mind where they, say let's make sure we don't exceed.

2341
02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:48,640
Speaker 1: THAT i know that we're not talking overtly tanking quote end,

2342
02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:51,760
Speaker 1: quote but it has to be in the, mind, Right.

2343
02:07:52,680 --> 02:07:54,360
Speaker 4: YEAH i would, assume though we don't know.

2344
02:07:54,400 --> 02:07:57,440
Speaker 5: That but they got several analytics guys over, there and

2345
02:07:58,280 --> 02:08:00,280
Speaker 5: at this point you are so far in to, it,

2346
02:08:00,360 --> 02:08:03,960
Speaker 5: Right Jake, clay totally like they'd be schoolish to mess

2347
02:08:04,040 --> 02:08:06,680
Speaker 5: up your. Odds but you're, right top three give you

2348
02:08:06,720 --> 02:08:09,920
Speaker 5: a fourteen percent chance at the number one overall. Pick but,

2349
02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:12,760
Speaker 5: again the most important thing is to just be in top.

2350
02:08:12,800 --> 02:08:14,920
Speaker 5: Four therefore you're able to keep that.

2351
02:08:15,000 --> 02:08:17,000
Speaker 4: Pick but they've split their last four.

2352
02:08:17,080 --> 02:08:20,640
Speaker 5: Games there's clearly at least a couple more winnable games

2353
02:08:20,680 --> 02:08:22,960
Speaker 5: among their finals seven with four on the road or,

2354
02:08:23,080 --> 02:08:26,160
Speaker 5: yeah four on the road including this road trip that

2355
02:08:26,400 --> 02:08:29,160
Speaker 5: is their last one that begins coming up In, chicago

2356
02:08:29,240 --> 02:08:32,480
Speaker 5: and so, yeah and any anytime there's a player out

2357
02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:37,000
Speaker 5: there that has any concern, whatsoever like we Saw Jerris

2358
02:08:37,040 --> 02:08:40,280
Speaker 5: walker's hard, fall you're going to lean as always on

2359
02:08:40,320 --> 02:08:42,760
Speaker 5: that on that side of, safety and from his, standpoint

2360
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:45,400
Speaker 5: you hold him. Out AND i think that will be

2361
02:08:45,480 --> 02:08:47,000
Speaker 5: the case here for another game or two at.

2362
02:08:47,080 --> 02:08:50,600
Speaker 1: Least Has Kobe brown played his way into possible discussion

2363
02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:52,800
Speaker 1: for next year or is he simply getting empty?

2364
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:53,320
Speaker 2: Calories?

2365
02:08:54,200 --> 02:08:55,360
Speaker 1: YEAH i think, SO i.

2366
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:58,600
Speaker 5: DO i mean he's SHOOTING i think forty four from

2367
02:08:58,600 --> 02:09:02,000
Speaker 5: three point range's he's a bigger frame than they, have

2368
02:09:02,160 --> 02:09:04,720
Speaker 5: a little bit, TALLER i think than most people. Realize

2369
02:09:05,120 --> 02:09:07,160
Speaker 5: and for a, guy you, KNOW i could see him

2370
02:09:07,200 --> 02:09:11,560
Speaker 5: becoming the twelfth or thirteenth guy potentially on the. TEAM

2371
02:09:11,560 --> 02:09:14,120
Speaker 5: i don't necessarily see him as a rotation, guy right

2372
02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:17,440
Speaker 5: away assuming full health for This spacers team next, season

2373
02:09:17,480 --> 02:09:20,240
Speaker 5: including a draft pick That i'm factoring in and all,

2374
02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:23,400
Speaker 5: this but just outside the rotation and certainly a guy

2375
02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:25,840
Speaker 5: you lean on with injuries and all that. STUFF i

2376
02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:28,160
Speaker 5: think early on the thought was he's just a throw.

2377
02:09:28,200 --> 02:09:31,280
Speaker 5: In but this might be a case here where the right,

2378
02:09:31,320 --> 02:09:35,720
Speaker 5: opportunity an opportunity with playing, time leads to.

2379
02:09:35,560 --> 02:09:37,080
Speaker 4: A potential future for him.

2380
02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:38,120
Speaker 2: Here, Contractually.

2381
02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:42,000
Speaker 1: Scott With Kobe, brown it's Like Jalen smith of a

2382
02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:44,600
Speaker 1: few years, ago where they can only offer HIM x

2383
02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:45,000
Speaker 1: amount of.

2384
02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:45,360
Speaker 2: Dollars.

2385
02:09:45,480 --> 02:09:51,040
Speaker 5: Correct, yes that's my understanding with, that because they declined

2386
02:09:51,280 --> 02:09:55,640
Speaker 5: his fourth year, option clearly Suggesting clippers weren't interested in moving.

2387
02:09:55,680 --> 02:09:58,080
Speaker 5: Forward you don't see it a, ton but that does

2388
02:09:58,120 --> 02:10:01,240
Speaker 5: have limitations on what The pacers can get to in

2389
02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:02,080
Speaker 5: terms of the salary.

2390
02:10:02,160 --> 02:10:05,560
Speaker 1: Number PACER's Bulls tomorrow, night eight o'clock tip up In,

2391
02:10:05,880 --> 02:10:08,200
Speaker 1: chicago pregame at seven thirty can be heard on the,

2392
02:10:08,240 --> 02:10:09,960
Speaker 1: station and then of course you can read all about

2393
02:10:10,000 --> 02:10:13,040
Speaker 1: it before and after At Fieldhouse files With Scott. Agnes

2394
02:10:13,080 --> 02:10:14,000
Speaker 1: scott appreciated as.

2395
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:16,680
Speaker 4: Always you Gotta Thankake Scott agnes.

2396
02:10:16,520 --> 02:10:18,120
Speaker 1: Joining us on the. Program starting to cloud up just

2397
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Speaker 1: a little bit, outside by the, way not going to

2398
02:10:19,600 --> 02:10:23,680
Speaker 1: be cloudy On april thirtieth for the golf outing taking

2399
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Speaker 1: place one oh seven. Five the fan dot com is

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Speaker 1: where you can find all the information for our fan

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Speaker 1: golf outing at The Legends Golf club down In. Franklin beautiful.

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Speaker 1: do a, foursome you can do it, individually you can

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Speaker 1: sponsor if you'd like to get involved as, well and

2405
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Speaker 1: we will all be out there doing, shows swinging the,

2406
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Speaker 1: clubs And franciscan will be there to answer your health

2407
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Speaker 1: questions as. Well we'll come back kind of put a

2408
02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:50,920
Speaker 1: tie on all of. It Jeff rickord is in For.

2409
02:10:51,040 --> 02:10:53,320
Speaker 1: John we'll see what he's got cooking as. Well, yes

2410
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Speaker 1: by the, WAY i just mentioned the upcoming golf. Outing

2411
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Speaker 1: that's kind of one of the signs of. Spring let

2412
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Speaker 1: me throw in one kind of ODD i guess sidebar

2413
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Speaker 1: this time of. Year But i've always thought this was

2414
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Speaker 1: such a neat thing AND i wanted to pass it

2415
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Speaker 1: along for people because it's not something THAT i had

2416
02:11:14,600 --> 02:11:18,120
Speaker 1: never really thought, of but every year AND i just

2417
02:11:18,160 --> 02:11:21,000
Speaker 1: got the message from my, mom which is WHAT i.

2418
02:11:21,000 --> 02:11:23,160
Speaker 1: Love every, year this time of, year my mom sends

2419
02:11:23,160 --> 02:11:27,160
Speaker 1: me a. Message my grandfather passed. AWAY i, MEAN i

2420
02:11:27,200 --> 02:11:29,000
Speaker 1: was a kid in nineteen eighty, two BUT i still

2421
02:11:29,000 --> 02:11:33,360
Speaker 1: Remember april twenty second of nineteen eighty two and my

2422
02:11:33,480 --> 02:11:35,440
Speaker 1: parents we'd lived in that house the house we live

2423
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Speaker 1: in now at that point for, gosh just a handful of.

2424
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Speaker 1: Years but the neighbors across the, street The, lurtons when

2425
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Speaker 1: my grandfather passed, away gave my parents a, tree like

2426
02:11:48,720 --> 02:11:51,120
Speaker 1: a small tree to plant in the yard in memory

2427
02:11:51,160 --> 02:11:52,960
Speaker 1: of or in honor of my. Father and it's a

2428
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:55,320
Speaker 1: tree that blooms every. Spring of, course he passed In,

2429
02:11:55,360 --> 02:12:00,600
Speaker 1: april but it was such a kind and thoughtful gesture

2430
02:12:00,920 --> 02:12:05,680
Speaker 1: because every year now some you, know forty plus years,

2431
02:12:05,720 --> 02:12:08,120
Speaker 1: later forty four years, later every year in the, spring

2432
02:12:09,560 --> 02:12:12,160
Speaker 1: that tree, blooms and my mom sends me a message that, says,

2433
02:12:12,200 --> 02:12:15,520
Speaker 1: Hey grandpa's. Blooming and it's such a perfect tribute and

2434
02:12:15,600 --> 02:12:19,880
Speaker 1: wonderful way to let a family, know you know that

2435
02:12:20,200 --> 02:12:23,560
Speaker 1: you're giving them something to just a reminder each and

2436
02:12:23,600 --> 02:12:27,160
Speaker 1: every year of like a REB i just thought this

2437
02:12:27,200 --> 02:12:28,960
Speaker 1: time of, YEAR i think of it every, year AND

2438
02:12:29,000 --> 02:12:32,120
Speaker 1: i for those of you out, there you know if

2439
02:12:32,160 --> 02:12:34,440
Speaker 1: you do have a family friend or you know somebody

2440
02:12:34,440 --> 02:12:35,720
Speaker 1: that goes through that kind of a. LOSS i just

2441
02:12:35,760 --> 02:12:40,160
Speaker 1: think it's such a wonderful gesture and a perfect way

2442
02:12:40,200 --> 02:12:42,520
Speaker 1: to just let people know you're thinking of. It SO

2443
02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:44,480
Speaker 1: i wanted to pass that along and thank you to

2444
02:12:44,520 --> 02:12:48,520
Speaker 1: The lurtons forty years later still for the annual gift

2445
02:12:48,560 --> 02:12:53,000
Speaker 1: that Gives with, That Jeff ricker has. Arrived the, crossover of,

2446
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2452
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Speaker 1: year right, now get that air conditioning checked out clean

2453
02:13:13,120 --> 02:13:14,520
Speaker 1: to make sure that you are up and running for

2454
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Speaker 1: the very warm summer months that are. Upcoming three one

2455
02:13:18,560 --> 02:13:22,080
Speaker 1: seven three five three twenty one forty one is the telephone.

2456
02:13:22,120 --> 02:13:25,680
Speaker 2: Number, jeff you you got an extra sleep.

2457
02:13:25,360 --> 02:13:27,480
Speaker 1: In, today so now you're in, here you're gonna think

2458
02:13:27,480 --> 02:13:28,600
Speaker 1: at seven, am, RIGHT.

2459
02:13:28,520 --> 02:13:31,760
Speaker 9: I slept until six point fifteen this, morning kidding ME

2460
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:35,080
Speaker 9: i was way into the MORNING.

2461
02:13:34,800 --> 02:13:36,280
Speaker 1: I SHAN i tell YOU i did that every day

2462
02:13:36,280 --> 02:13:39,000
Speaker 1: WHEN i did in the morning. Show, right all, right

2463
02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:41,000
Speaker 1: so a little closer. Though you ready for The Final?

2464
02:13:41,040 --> 02:13:41,240
Speaker 2: Four?

2465
02:13:41,800 --> 02:13:45,520
Speaker 9: Uh, Yeah i'm gonna be, Ready like it'll be. INTERESTING

2466
02:13:45,920 --> 02:13:47,120
Speaker 9: i don't know THAT i have a favorite.

2467
02:13:47,120 --> 02:13:47,920
Speaker 1: Anymore at this point in.

2468
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:50,200
Speaker 9: TIME i was kind of hoping for due we would get,

2469
02:13:50,240 --> 02:13:52,520
Speaker 9: there AND i certainly saw the reality of what the

2470
02:13:52,560 --> 02:13:54,760
Speaker 9: situation was in the second half Against, arizona AND i

2471
02:13:54,760 --> 02:13:56,760
Speaker 9: get all. That we'll talk about some of those, things

2472
02:13:56,760 --> 02:13:57,880
Speaker 9: BUT i think the one of the THINGS i want

2473
02:13:57,920 --> 02:13:59,960
Speaker 9: to go. Into and you AND i have talked about this,

2474
02:14:00,040 --> 02:14:02,800
Speaker 9: before And i've mentioned it many many. Times we're about

2475
02:14:02,800 --> 02:14:05,880
Speaker 9: to demonstrate again here In indianapolis why this is the

2476
02:14:06,240 --> 02:14:10,200
Speaker 9: place to have your championship, event whether it's The Super,

2477
02:14:10,200 --> 02:14:15,480
Speaker 9: bowl The Final, four the swimming and diving trials for The,

2478
02:14:15,520 --> 02:14:20,839
Speaker 9: olympics national, championship football, Games Big ten conference football and basketball,

2479
02:14:20,920 --> 02:14:22,080
Speaker 9: championship whatever it.

2480
02:14:22,200 --> 02:14:23,720
Speaker 2: IS i can't tell.

2481
02:14:23,760 --> 02:14:26,120
Speaker 9: You as somebody worked in the national media for a

2482
02:14:26,120 --> 02:14:28,640
Speaker 9: good fifteen, years it's kind of.

2483
02:14:28,680 --> 02:14:29,680
Speaker 2: Consensus there are some.

2484
02:14:29,640 --> 02:14:31,560
Speaker 9: People that like to go To New orleans or maybe

2485
02:14:31,600 --> 02:14:33,640
Speaker 9: the beach In, miami and they don't mind, that but

2486
02:14:33,680 --> 02:14:35,320
Speaker 9: every one of them, says nobody does a better and.

2487
02:14:35,400 --> 02:14:37,080
Speaker 1: Ending do you think it's? Becose how much of that

2488
02:14:37,120 --> 02:14:39,120
Speaker 1: is because of the walk ability of downtown and having

2489
02:14:39,120 --> 02:14:42,120
Speaker 1: it all. Centralized that's a lot of, it and because

2490
02:14:42,120 --> 02:14:43,720
Speaker 1: we actually we embrace it, though.

2491
02:14:43,800 --> 02:14:45,920
Speaker 2: RIGHT i, mean that's what it comes back.

2492
02:14:45,960 --> 02:14:48,480
Speaker 9: To every TIME i talk to my friends who travel

2493
02:14:48,680 --> 02:14:50,840
Speaker 9: all over the place for these national, events they all, go,

2494
02:14:51,280 --> 02:14:54,600
Speaker 9: yeah the walkability is. Cool you, know a hotel room

2495
02:14:54,600 --> 02:14:57,240
Speaker 9: is pretty much a hotel room wherever you. Go restaurants

2496
02:14:57,280 --> 02:14:59,600
Speaker 9: can pretty much be. Restaurants people Like Saint, elmo's but

2497
02:15:00,360 --> 02:15:03,680
Speaker 9: Is he's, whatever whatever your flavor. Is but it's the

2498
02:15:03,720 --> 02:15:08,680
Speaker 9: way that the city embraces. It they're, like, oh, hey

2499
02:15:08,760 --> 02:15:11,320
Speaker 9: you work for the sporting news, man how's your year.

2500
02:15:11,400 --> 02:15:11,520
Speaker 2: Going?

2501
02:15:11,600 --> 02:15:14,640
Speaker 9: Right people are just, friends you, know like the and they're.

2502
02:15:14,720 --> 02:15:17,680
Speaker 1: Welcoming they're. SIX i, remember you know That kentucky team

2503
02:15:17,720 --> 02:15:19,320
Speaker 1: That Rick patino had ninety six is one of the

2504
02:15:19,360 --> 02:15:22,160
Speaker 1: great teams of all. Time and that final four you

2505
02:15:22,240 --> 02:15:26,640
Speaker 1: had it Was, Syracuse Mississippi state UMass In kentucky and

2506
02:15:26,720 --> 02:15:29,960
Speaker 1: it was in the meadowlands In New. York AND i

2507
02:15:30,040 --> 02:15:32,360
Speaker 1: just think that there's so much going on In New

2508
02:15:32,440 --> 02:15:34,560
Speaker 1: york that The final four just kind of gets lost

2509
02:15:34,600 --> 02:15:38,760
Speaker 1: in the, shuffle whereas here everything is Screaming final.

2510
02:15:38,760 --> 02:15:38,960
Speaker 2: Four.

2511
02:15:39,080 --> 02:15:41,160
Speaker 9: Right, Look i've been to a bunch Of Super, bowls,

2512
02:15:41,200 --> 02:15:42,880
Speaker 9: right and you look at you talk About New, york

2513
02:15:43,280 --> 02:15:46,320
Speaker 9: it just gets. Swathed even In Los, angeles it gets swallowed.

2514
02:15:46,400 --> 02:15:48,800
Speaker 2: Up. Right it's such a big, area.

2515
02:15:48,520 --> 02:15:50,920
Speaker 9: There's so much going, on there's so many things to,

2516
02:15:51,000 --> 02:15:55,000
Speaker 9: do and it's, also, yes everything is walkable. Downtown LIKE

2517
02:15:55,040 --> 02:15:57,640
Speaker 9: i can remember doing A Super bowl In. Jacksonville, Right,

2518
02:15:57,880 --> 02:16:00,880
Speaker 9: right the stadium is nowhere near where you're, staying which

2519
02:16:00,920 --> 02:16:03,480
Speaker 9: is nowhere near where the convention center, was which is

2520
02:16:03,520 --> 02:16:06,360
Speaker 9: nowhere near where you go for the. Restaurant, Right you

2521
02:16:06,480 --> 02:16:09,560
Speaker 9: literally had to get in a car to go fifteen

2522
02:16:09,600 --> 02:16:10,960
Speaker 9: miles anywhere to do.

2523
02:16:11,000 --> 02:16:15,000
Speaker 1: Anything this Particular final, four to, me is really of.

2524
02:16:15,120 --> 02:16:18,200
Speaker 1: Intrigue it is, True, jeff that we live in a

2525
02:16:18,240 --> 02:16:21,400
Speaker 1: world now where it's harder to keep track of rosters

2526
02:16:21,400 --> 02:16:22,760
Speaker 1: because of all the factors in college.

2527
02:16:22,800 --> 02:16:23,760
Speaker 2: Basketball but.

2528
02:16:25,240 --> 02:16:29,000
Speaker 1: Typically there's A Final four, interloper Like South carolina a

2529
02:16:29,040 --> 02:16:30,800
Speaker 1: couple of years, ago right where you're, like, okay they

2530
02:16:30,800 --> 02:16:33,480
Speaker 1: caught a heater and they're, here but everybody knows it

2531
02:16:33,560 --> 02:16:36,480
Speaker 1: kind of ends On. Saturday, yeah there are four teams

2532
02:16:36,480 --> 02:16:39,040
Speaker 1: here THAT i think, realistically if any of them, won

2533
02:16:39,600 --> 02:16:41,560
Speaker 1: you would, say, YEAH i could see how that would.

2534
02:16:41,560 --> 02:16:43,039
Speaker 2: Happen that's to me what's.

2535
02:16:43,080 --> 02:16:45,840
Speaker 9: Intriguing, WELL i also think in this day and age

2536
02:16:45,879 --> 02:16:48,960
Speaker 9: where the big programs have money to spend on the better,

2537
02:16:49,000 --> 02:16:51,920
Speaker 9: players and we Saw duke get upset, obviously but it's

2538
02:16:51,920 --> 02:16:53,840
Speaker 9: not like they got upset by the little sisters of

2539
02:16:53,879 --> 02:16:56,800
Speaker 9: the correct let's. Correct let's be honest. Here but when

2540
02:16:56,840 --> 02:17:01,640
Speaker 9: you take a look at this final, four are you

2541
02:17:01,640 --> 02:17:03,320
Speaker 9: saying If i'd have told you that's the final four

2542
02:17:03,440 --> 02:17:06,320
Speaker 9: back on day one of the, tournament would you have, said,

2543
02:17:06,360 --> 02:17:06,800
Speaker 9: oh you were.

2544
02:17:06,840 --> 02:17:10,000
Speaker 1: Crazy there's no way even In, january right, Right if

2545
02:17:10,000 --> 02:17:11,440
Speaker 1: you had told me that In, January i'd, say, yeah,

2546
02:17:11,440 --> 02:17:12,119
Speaker 1: OKAY i could see.

2547
02:17:12,120 --> 02:17:14,440
Speaker 9: That and, Look illinois has been, playing as we, know

2548
02:17:14,560 --> 02:17:18,640
Speaker 9: it's been playing terrific. Lately michigan has got it going

2549
02:17:18,680 --> 02:17:20,920
Speaker 9: here in this. Tournament they just scored ninety points every

2550
02:17:20,920 --> 02:17:24,800
Speaker 9: time they're out. There you con the crazy comeback Against,

2551
02:17:24,920 --> 02:17:28,040
Speaker 9: Duke but, okay so they Upset, duke the team that's

2552
02:17:28,040 --> 02:17:30,000
Speaker 9: won two national championships in the last three.

2553
02:17:30,040 --> 02:17:34,879
Speaker 1: Years you, Know, illinois Though illinois to me has a

2554
02:17:34,920 --> 02:17:38,640
Speaker 1: shot in any game they're going to play just because

2555
02:17:38,680 --> 02:17:42,760
Speaker 1: they have floor spacing and five marksmen at any.

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02:17:42,760 --> 02:17:46,959
Speaker 9: Time and they've started playing. Defense, yeah they've started to play, defense.

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Speaker 1: Which is what turned things around For purdue there, right

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02:17:49,240 --> 02:17:51,119
Speaker 1: like In february And march where they got it turned

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02:17:51,120 --> 02:17:53,400
Speaker 1: around as. Well all, right so you're going to carry

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02:17:53,440 --> 02:17:55,680
Speaker 1: it home until six. O'clock jeff is in For john

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Speaker 1: who's taking the day off. Today we will be back

2562
02:17:58,240 --> 02:18:00,879
Speaker 1: with you at noon. TOMORROW i Think Julie rolash's going

2563
02:18:00,920 --> 02:18:02,760
Speaker 1: to join us, tomorrow who is now with The, pacers

2564
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Speaker 1: but the former. Commissionery, yeah she's helping put together all of, this,

2565
02:18:07,560 --> 02:18:09,959
Speaker 1: right so deal over at The pacers. Now wanted to

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02:18:09,959 --> 02:18:13,039
Speaker 1: find out exactly what all is going into planning the final.

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Speaker 1: FOUR i do think by the end of the Week

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Speaker 1: Jason gardner will be joining us From. Arizona just not

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02:18:18,240 --> 02:18:21,520
Speaker 1: sure which day yet because of the travel and the

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02:18:21,560 --> 02:18:22,280
Speaker 1: time difference as.

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02:18:22,280 --> 02:18:24,760
Speaker 2: Well Is arizona two hours or three hours.

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02:18:24,600 --> 02:18:26,680
Speaker 1: Behind this feet it's three right? Now is it?

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02:18:26,720 --> 02:18:26,920
Speaker 2: Three?

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02:18:27,000 --> 02:18:29,879
Speaker 9: YEAH i had to have this conversation with another host

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02:18:29,879 --> 02:18:32,160
Speaker 9: who will not be named right, now but they don't

2576
02:18:32,280 --> 02:18:33,600
Speaker 9: do daylight.

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02:18:33,680 --> 02:18:37,039
Speaker 1: Saving, yeah it used to be the only three states that, Didn't, Arizona,

2578
02:18:37,040 --> 02:18:39,320
Speaker 1: hawaii And. INDIANA i used to love that we didn't

2579
02:18:39,320 --> 02:18:41,680
Speaker 1: do it just because it made us, different made us, weird,

2580
02:18:41,760 --> 02:18:47,119
Speaker 1: Right but, nonetheless we will Have Jason garden hopefully between

2581
02:18:47,160 --> 02:18:49,720
Speaker 1: now and the end of the week, Again pacers And.

2582
02:18:49,760 --> 02:18:52,680
Speaker 1: Action tomorrow light pregame seven. Thirty we will probably talk

2583
02:18:52,720 --> 02:18:55,720
Speaker 1: about that a little bit tomorrow as well as for.

2584
02:18:55,800 --> 02:18:58,840
Speaker 1: TODAY i appreciate everybody listening also To Cluster truck for

2585
02:18:58,879 --> 02:19:02,120
Speaker 1: the fabulous cake was really good and now it's under

2586
02:19:02,120 --> 02:19:03,680
Speaker 1: the case of he is From Cluster. Truck we'll be

2587
02:19:03,720 --> 02:19:06,200
Speaker 1: back with you at noon, tomorrow AND i thank you

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02:19:06,240 --> 02:19:07,120
Speaker 1: for listening To Querying.

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Speaker 2: Company