1 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Indiana repairs deserve a win. We need a win. 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: The IURC investigation is important. The legislation is the follow through. 3 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: Now watch for the implementation. That's where this quote a 4 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: landmark bill goes to die if nobody's watching. So you 5 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: had Governor Brown who was very excited about this landmark 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: utility legislation aimed at helping residents deal with high utility bills. However, 7 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 2: and that's the big butt. Most repairs may not see 8 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: any benefits, especially immediately. 9 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a phased rollout. So look, there's a 10 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: lot of talk about this. Indiana Capitol Chronicle's got a 11 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 3: great article about this. This is HA one zero zero two, 12 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: which Governor Braun just signed into law, and. 13 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 4: There's a lot of parts for it. 14 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: You know, utilities are no longer basically guaranteed profits. There's 15 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: going to be performance based rate making more predictable bills, 16 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: so they'll kind of smooth out your bills month to 17 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: month across the whole year. And there's some consumer protections 18 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 3: like no shut offs during extreme heat for vulnerable customers, 19 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: required assistance programs, and look, that's all good, it all, 20 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: it's all wonderful, and I will give the lawmakers some 21 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: credit for at least putting this bill out there, but 22 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: you don't really get credit until utility bills are under control, 23 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 3: and we are a long way from that right now. 24 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: Well, any savans are going to depend on how the 25 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 2: RURC implements the law. And you've got the big five utilities, 26 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: they're going to have to answer now to regulators. And 27 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: now there's this legislation attached. Got to keep the pressure 28 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: on landmark. Landmark in air quotes only matters if it's 29 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: enforced too. 30 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, utilities are still going to be regulated monopolies. You 31 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: don't get the ability to choose a different and you 32 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: know utility company that's still gonna be the you know 33 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: the part of this. 34 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 4: And performance metrics can be you know, they. 35 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: Can be vague, they can be easy to meet, they 36 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 3: can be designed for the utility to easily make those 37 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 3: metrics to where again, you don't see you know, much 38 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: less or much of any savings to this. And there 39 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 3: are some things that are completely out of everybody's control 40 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: part of this too. I mean, we can see our 41 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: utility rates go up just because natural gas and fuel 42 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: prices grow up. We certainly are electrical grid needs modernization 43 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: that's going to cost billions of dollars. You know, population 44 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 3: growth and demand. If a ton of new data centers 45 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: come in, that's going to be a struggle too. So 46 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: this is a far far cry from any guarantee of 47 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 3: savings to the Indiana utility payer. 48 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: But one thing you could take away from it is 49 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: at least sits on their radar, the legislator's radar, the 50 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: governor's radar. 51 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: Is the are that low? That's low the bar problem? 52 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess they're not just you know, giving us 53 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: the middle finger and telling us to stick it, which 54 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 3: is what it usually feels like. 55 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: We have the problem. 56 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 3: Okay, cool, And then they they did sign this legislation 57 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: and they are doing something. 58 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 4: But let's be honest. The i u r C almost. 59 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 3: Always passes through regulator, you know, rate requests from the 60 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 3: utility companies or rate increases from the utility companies. And 61 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 3: I want to give them a little bit of credit 62 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 3: because you know what, we when we crap all over 63 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: the lawmakers every single time we do that, they deserve 64 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: every bit of it. So when they do something that 65 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: is at least moving in the right direction, it's only 66 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: intellectually honest and fair for us to give them some. 67 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 4: Credit, but I'm not giving them a lot of credit. 68 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: I'm giving them just this tiniest, littlest smidge of credit 69 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: on this and actually doing something. But just keep in mind, 70 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: don't expect this to be this massive savings, especially initially. 71 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: This is intentionally like a slow rollout. So if we're 72 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: hearing four years from now and five years from now 73 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: and our utility rates are the same as they are 74 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: today or maybe even. 75 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 4: Less than that, does they feel like a win at all? Wonderful? No, no, no. 76 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: If it's the same, that'd be good. Or if they're 77 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: a little bit less, that'd be wonderful and fantastic. And 78 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: we'll give the lawmakers and Governor Brong all the credit 79 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: in the world, so we'll. 80 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 4: See what they look like in you know, four or 81 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 4: five years. 82 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 83 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: Cool, you're listening to Casey and Jim. Hey, you mentioned 84 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: spending billions and billions of dollars, and that leads us 85 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: to the Chicago Bears. They're still negotiating where to build 86 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,679 Speaker 2: a new stadium and they have not made a final 87 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: decision yet. It's being reported that if Illinois state lawmakers 88 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: don't pass a bill supporting the new Bears Stadium by 89 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 2: the end of this month, that they will officially be 90 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: moving to Hammond. 91 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we're going to find out something formal 92 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 3: and concrete here in the next couple of weeks. Almost 93 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 3: like you know, this was a couple of months ago, 94 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 3: it seemed like this was the only thing we were 95 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: talking about out and then you know, all of a sudden, 96 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: you know, a war starts with Iran and we're sending 97 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 3: astronauts back around the moon again, and some other things 98 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: caught our attention. But this is still out there, and yes, 99 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: I think we're probably going to have some sort of 100 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: formal answer on this in the next couple of weeks. 101 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 4: I do want to mention, since. 102 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: We're talking about the Chicago Bears, there was some breaking 103 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: news not about this specifically, but about Chicago Bears news 104 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: this morning. Chicago Bears icon Steve McMichael, who passed away 105 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 3: last year from ALS. His wife, had donated his brain 106 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: to research hoping to explore a link between potential repeated 107 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: head trauma that football players suffer CTE and ALS, and 108 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 3: it just came out this morning that there was a 109 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 3: post mortem diagnosis or diagnosis for Steve McMichael that he 110 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 3: did in fact have CTE. So some some you know, 111 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 3: scary and troubling news. There breaking news this morning out 112 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 3: of the Chicago Bears. 113 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 2: Indiana optimistic because Indiana has signed a bill and they've 114 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: got the shovel ready, they're ready to go. 115 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: Illinois is still talking. At this point. One of these 116 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: positions is stronger than the other. 117 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: It does put Indiana in the position to say, hey, look, 118 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: we're ready to go. We're just waiting on you guys. 119 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 2: And the Bears know it, the NFL knows it. And 120 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: now Illinois is negotiating against a ticking clock. 121 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is really to kind of reset the 122 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: table on the whole Bear Stadium discussion. Soldier Field and 123 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 3: and a place in Chicago is pretty much out. It 124 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 3: would have to be some ridiculous hail Mary by the 125 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: Parks Department in the City of Chicago to where they could, 126 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 3: you know, miraculously, at the eleventh hour pull out some 127 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: deal that keeps the Bears in the city of Chicago 128 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 3: and either you know, right next to Soldier Field, or 129 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: redo that completely. I think that's totally out of it. 130 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 3: We're really down to Arlington Heights, which is out in 131 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 3: the suburbs where the Bears have purchased the old Arlington 132 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: Raceway horse racing track. And so that's the Illinois option, 133 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: and then you've got the Indiana option, and those are 134 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: really the only two that are on the table. And 135 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: the Bears really are up against a clock here because 136 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: their lease with the existing Soldier Field. Keep in mind 137 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 3: this is one of the big sticking points. The Bears 138 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 3: do not own Soldier Field. It is owned by the 139 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: Chicago Parks Department, and the Bears have a lease with 140 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,119 Speaker 3: the Chicago Parks Department to play their games at Soldier Field. 141 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: That lease is running out. It's going to take several 142 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 3: years to get a stadium built. So the Bears really 143 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 3: feel like they're up against the clock here and here 144 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: here is as with everything, Look, this just comes down 145 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: to money, that's all Casey just comes down to money, 146 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 3: that's all it is. Because where owners think about think 147 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 3: about how teams make their money. The national revenue is 148 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: split amongst all the NFL teams, so that's just kind 149 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: of baked in already. Ticket sales are a pretty small 150 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: part of things. But where the big big money that 151 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 3: Bears can get, second to only their media rights deals, 152 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: is by owning a stadium, and it's not necessarily just 153 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: the regular run of the mill ticket sales. It's all 154 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 3: the in stadium sponsorship money that they can get. It's 155 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 3: all of the sweet and super high dollar expensive ticket 156 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: money they can get. And then it's all of the 157 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 3: non football revenue that these stadiums generate, whether it's like 158 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 3: Final Four games like we just had here in Indianapolis, 159 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: or the Super Bowl, or concerts or tractor polls or 160 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 3: rodeos or whatever else takes place at that stadium, that 161 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: stadium revenue. When teams own the stadium or effectively own 162 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: all the revenue that comes into that stadium, that is 163 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: their biggest source of revenue for a team, only after 164 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 3: their media rights deals. The other big part of this, 165 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: too is, and the data is clear on it, when 166 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 3: a team builds a new mega stadium, the value of 167 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 3: that team skyrockets. Right now, the Bears are worth about 168 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: five billion dollars now if they can get somebody like 169 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 3: State of Indiana to give them essentially a free stadium. Now, 170 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: the Bears aren't going to kick in some money of 171 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 3: their own. I don't want to make it sound like 172 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: that the Indiana is paying for everything. Bears will pay 173 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: for a little bit, but the taxpayers of India Biana 174 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: would fork up most of the money. So the Bears 175 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: are worth five billion dollars now. The estimates are they 176 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: get a new stadium, either in Arlington Heights or Indiana, 177 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 3: their team automatically is worth eight to nine billion dollars. 178 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: I mean, that's almost double where they're currently at now. 179 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: So this is don't confuse any of this. It is 180 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 3: all about money. 181 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: Well, it's all about money, bet at this point, it's 182 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: all about timing because the month deadline Israel Hammond is ready, 183 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 2: the bill is signed with Indiana. If Illinois lawmakers spend 184 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 2: this month doing anything other than passing that stadium legislation, 185 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 2: that team is going to go to Indiana. When you've 186 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: got someone like Adam Schefter saying Indiana is likely if 187 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 2: Illinois fails within the next couple of weeks. 188 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: That's not a rumor. 189 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: That's source reporting from someone who's connected with NFL news 190 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 2: and he is saying, guess what, gang, If Illinois fails 191 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: to do this in the next two weeks, Indiana is 192 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: getting another NFL team. 193 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Adam Schefter is the best in the business as 194 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 3: an NFL insider. He gets all the scoops, He talks 195 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: to all the owners in the GMS, he talks to 196 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: everybody involved in the NFL. There's nobody better at it 197 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: than Adam Schefter. So it's really important when he says 198 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: things like this. And keep in mind here, the Bears 199 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 3: want to stay in Illinois. They want Arlington Heights to work. Shoot, 200 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: they already spent a couple hundred million dollars purchasing that 201 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 3: land several years ago. The Bears want to stay in Illinois. 202 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: But more than staying in Illinois, the Bears want money. 203 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 3: They want money that owning a stadium, or at least 204 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: owning the revenue of the stadium will give to them. 205 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: And they want, you know, the additional three to four 206 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 3: billion dollars that that franchise would be worth day one 207 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: of signing this deal. That's what they really want. 208 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: So you've got Donald Trump who signed an executive order 209 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: regulating college sports and also transfer limits. 210 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: Nick Saban was very excited about that. 211 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 5: Take a list really works long term without some kind 212 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 5: of regulations, you know, something that allows you know, universities 213 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 5: to preserve opportunities for all sports, you know, including women's 214 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 5: and Olympic sports, you know, not just football on basketball, 215 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 5: and you know, I want to thanks the President for 216 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 5: you know, showing leadership and a creating a roundtable which 217 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 5: consisted of you know, college presidents, commissioners, athletic directors, coaches 218 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 5: to gather information as to you know, what might help 219 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 5: create some regulation that would help us long term be 220 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 5: able to manage and fund all sports so that we 221 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 5: can continue to create opportunities for young people. 222 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: So the NIL era has gotten so chaotic that you've 223 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: got the President of the United States stepping in. 224 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: That's where we are. 225 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: Well. 226 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: I think there's this narrative out there that college sports 227 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 3: is totally in chaos right now and completely unsustainable. 228 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. 229 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: We just had one of the best years of college sports. 230 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: I can remember it a long time. The incredible Indiana 231 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: Hoosiers winning the football National Championship that final four and 232 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: the NCAA Tournament was great. And by the way, the 233 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 3: ratings for both the Football National Championship and the NCAA 234 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: Tournament have been through the roof in spectacular. The women's 235 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 3: tournament and basketball was great, and again their ratings were spectacular. 236 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: Seems like things are going pretty well in college football. 237 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 4: But I get it. Look, it is very chaotic. 238 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: There's a lot of uncertainty, there's a lot of change 239 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 3: because of course, college sports is traditionally all about tradition, 240 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 3: and these are the histories that we have here, and 241 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: this is the way we've always done things. So I 242 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 3: get that it feels odd and chaotic, but the actual 243 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: reality is, man, college sports right now has never been better. 244 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: Well, the NCAA had one job, that's to govern college sports. 245 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 2: And when you've got the president saying that, you know what, 246 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: we're going to have to review these federal government grants 247 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 2: and contracts if you don't comply with NCAA rules and 248 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: he's got to step in, maybe it's not being run 249 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 2: so well. 250 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so let's go over some of the key 251 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 3: provisions here of this executive order that Trump signed. As 252 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 3: it relates to college sports. It gives athletes a five 253 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 3: year participation window. They can only transfer with immediate eligibility 254 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: during an eligibility period, and you can only do it once. 255 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 3: If they want to make a second transfer, there would 256 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,719 Speaker 3: be additional conditions, possibly like the way it used to 257 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 3: be years ago, where the player would have to wait 258 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: out an entire year It kind of regulates a little 259 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: bit more nil and cracks down on improper financial arrangements. 260 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 4: It creates splay, yeah, exactly. 261 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 3: It creates funding leverage where basically federal agencies are tasked 262 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 3: with evaluating whether universities don't comply with these rules, they 263 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: may be unfit for federal grants and contracts. There's some 264 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: data compliance in here. And then the order, and I 265 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 3: thought this was really good too. The order explicitly calls 266 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: on Congress to quickly pass pass national laws to back 267 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,359 Speaker 3: up or expand upon these reforms. 268 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: So, well, you've got okay, you've got college sports needs 269 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 2: to function with clear, agreed upon rules, and when you 270 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: have got one of the greatest college football coaches of 271 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: all time, Nick Saban, agreeing with Donald Trump, well that's 272 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: saying something. It's probably the right call that changes needed 273 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: to be made. 274 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, there probably needs to be something. I just think 275 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 3: it's funny that everybody talking about how there's so much 276 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 3: chaos in college sports and this is unsustainable. 277 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 4: We can't go on this way. Yet, college athletics has never. 278 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: Been better than it is right now. Basketball and oh, 279 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 3: it's so entertaining and so good. And look that may 280 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: be just some you know, a quick shot of sugar 281 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: that we've got here, and we're all running on that 282 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: sugar high, and then two or three years from now 283 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: we crash in college sports as a total disaster. 284 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 4: It's entirely possible that we're. 285 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 3: Down that, you know, going down that road, and this 286 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 3: executive order is needed. Or maybe I'm just so euphoric 287 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 3: after just such a great Final four weekend here in Indianapolis. 288 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 4: That I'm like seeing, clearly, what are you talking about problems? 289 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: We don't have any problems. This is the greatest weekend ever. 290 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 4: We're all gonna live forever and everything. 291 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 3: Why not, guys are crazy with your problems and you're 292 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 3: gloom and doom. Everything is just fine, and then tomorrow 293 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: I'll be like, Okay, yeah, no, we really do. 294 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 4: It's a problem. 295 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: You're listening to Casey and Jim. It is ninety three 296 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: a WYBC. 297 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: Is it gonna be weak? 298 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: Is it gonna be strong? Yeah? Whatever. 299 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: Of course you need to have practical preparedness and good 300 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 2: systems to determine what. 301 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: The weather's like. But is this an exaggerated headline? They're 302 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: saying that this. 303 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: El Nino could be the biggest one in a century. 304 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: Prepare. 305 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: I m. 306 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 6: All other tropical storms must bowl before aneno. Yo, say aneno, 307 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 6: But those of you who don't have spaniel, el nino 308 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 6: is Spanish for. 309 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 7: Zeno. 310 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 4: Chris Farley from SNL that was back in the nineties. 311 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 4: That was great. 312 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 2: So you've got some climate models and they're suggesting that 313 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: there could be an El Nino that could develop this 314 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: year and in twenty twenty seven, possibly one of the most. 315 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: Intense in decades. 316 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: Prepare Now, Okay, yeah, you do have to prepare because 317 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: an El Nino can impact agriculture and water supply and 318 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: disaster planning, things of that nature. But I feel like 319 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: I feel like this is clickbait. They're just trying to 320 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: fear monger and scare everybody. 321 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: El Nino, as we. 322 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: Know, meteorology far from an exact science, and this is 323 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 3: a lot of this is coming from a Newsweek article 324 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: that was recently published and what an el Nino, And 325 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: they're actually calling this a super el Nino. 326 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 4: Oh, it's super. It's not just an El Nino, it's 327 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 4: a super el Nino. 328 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: El Nino is not big enough. Now, we need a 329 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: supersize next year. 330 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 4: It'll be an extreme el Nino. 331 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: But that's when unusually warm Pacific Ocean surface waters reshape 332 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: the weather patterns. And what it means is we generally 333 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: see hotter weather, hotter weather, altered storm patterns, drought in 334 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 3: some areas, flooding in others. 335 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 4: But one of the interesting things is traditionally. 336 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 3: With El Nino's there are fewer Atlantic hurricanes, so that 337 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 3: can actually be an interesting thing. And I remember we 338 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: opened with that Chris Farley audio from SNL and that 339 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 3: was in the nineties. I had never heard of El 340 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 3: Nino until like the nineties when that came out. 341 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 4: And then right after that they dropped. 342 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 2: La Ninaia, the sister to the El Ninia. 343 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 3: It does seem like like meteorologists are always coming up 344 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 3: with different names for storm or weather systems. 345 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's just that they. 346 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: Can sell put themselves front and center. 347 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Aaron sounds smarter than the rest of us. 348 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: We had El Nino, and then right after that it 349 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 3: was La nina and then it was like the one 350 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 3: that was like the mid two thousands, all of a 351 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: sudden it was a drachio. I'm like, what the Heck's 352 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 3: a drachio where I've never heard of this before and 353 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 3: then the last few years. But polar vortex. Oh, it's 354 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 3: oh you better watch out. We gotta pull. This isn't 355 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 3: just bad winter weather. It's some polar vortex coming on 356 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 3: down from Canada. It's gonna prepare. 357 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 358 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 3: I always feel like meteorologists look and they're smart, smarter 359 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 3: than me on this. But does seem like they're always 360 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 3: coming up with these funky names to describe these weather systems. 361 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 2: Well, the interesting thing about this is they like this 362 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: could develop in twenty twenty six or twenty twenty seven. 363 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: Hey, you know what, that's pretty precise when it comes 364 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 3: to weather. 365 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 366 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 3: You just give me a year or two and I'll 367 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 3: be able to predict about anything. 368 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: Hey, you know, it could be really hot and a 369 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: couple of years. 370 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: Oh okay, cool, maybe it's gonna snow in the winter. 371 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: Sure that doesn't sound alarmist at. 372 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 3: All, But I mean, I think the interesting part about 373 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 3: all of this it basically could create extreme weather patterns, 374 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 3: extreme heat in the summer, droughts in summer area. 375 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: You mean it's gonna be hot in the summer, so extreme. 376 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 3: No, it's going to be super hot because this is 377 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 3: a super El Nino is what we're seeing here. The 378 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 3: interesting part of that is is that normally you think 379 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: of extreme weather conditions, you think of hurricanes, and we're always. 380 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: Telling me it's going to rain in the spring. 381 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: We're all stick, it might rain this springs be cold 382 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 3: this winter too. But the idea that this super El 383 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: Nino could have fewer Atlantic hurricanes, look, I mean, that'd 384 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: be great. I mean we've seen hurricanes over the last 385 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 3: few years that have just caused literally billions of dollars 386 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 3: in damage, and so when it comes to a super 387 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 3: El Nino, it's not all gloom and doom and awful 388 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 3: and terrible. It would be wonderful if we could get 389 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: through this hurricane season this year without any real, nasty, 390 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 3: awful hurricane. 391 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: So should I take this seriously? Is that what you're 392 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: telling me? 393 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: Or do I just wait until they let me know? Oh, 394 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: by the way, this is all ninio. 395 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 4: You know what you do? 396 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 3: You take this information and you file it away way 397 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 3: back there in the back of your head, and then 398 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 3: when it's one hundred degrees in the summer, you can 399 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 3: sit there and go, oh, yeah, you know what this 400 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 3: is at your super El Nino, right, And then you 401 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 3: get to sound super smart talking about the super al 402 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 3: Nino in the super hot weather in the summertime. 403 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: You're listening to ninety three WYBC. 404 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 2: So the new data center movement is real, and some 405 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: people have some genuine concerns, mostly about land news, water consumption, 406 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 2: and energy demands. But the moment you pick up a 407 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 2: gun and fire it into someone's house, you've lost the 408 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: argument and then you become the story. 409 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: And that is not how democracy works. 410 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: Ron Gibson's home in Indianapolis was shot early Monday morning. 411 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: Thirteen rounds were fired into his front door. Luckily nobody 412 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 2: was hurt. However, him and his eight year old son 413 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 2: were home at the time. Both of them escaped physical injury. 414 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 2: And this attack happened just days after Gibson supported rezoning 415 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 2: that cleared the way for a proposed Daner Center project. 416 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: And you shooting at elected officials over infrastructure policy. 417 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: That's just flat out terrorism, That's what that is. 418 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a terrible story. 419 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 3: And Ron Gibson, he's a Democrat on the Indianapolis City 420 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 3: County Council representing District eight. And you know, I think 421 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: data centers, you know, not exclusively, have been a conservative issue, 422 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 3: but for the most part have been kind of embraced 423 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 3: by conservatives and a lot of conservatives against data centers. 424 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 3: This is crap. This is not what conservatives do. And 425 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: if it turns out a conservative did this trying to, 426 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 3: you know, push a conservative message of not allowing data 427 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 3: centers in our communities, that is a bunch of craft. 428 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 4: This is what liberals do, you know. 429 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 3: Keep in mind, it's liberals like Antifa that ride in 430 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 3: the streets and destroy property. It's liberals like the Prohamas 431 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 3: and pro Palestinian College protesters from a couple of years 432 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 3: ago that destroyed property. It was the liberal from the 433 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 3: Trump assassination or the attempt or the Charlie Kirk assassinations 434 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: are the ones that use violence to their political ends 435 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 3: in this country. That is not something that conservatives do 436 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 3: and we should have absolutely zero patients for it whatsoever. 437 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever the grievance, that's not the response, right and 438 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: hopefully Indianapolis law enforcement will find out who did it 439 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: and prosecute accordingly and aggressively. You can't just go shooting 440 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 2: up your lawmakers when you disagree. 441 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: The other way to do it is to vote them out. 442 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, get involved, show up to these community meetings about 443 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 3: these data centers. You know, make your voice heard, be vocal, 444 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 3: go it out and vote, call your local elected officials. 445 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 3: That's what conservatives do when we disagree with something that 446 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 3: our politicians do. We work within the system. We can 447 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 3: file lawsuits and let the judicial system take its rightful 448 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 3: place in the process. But we don't go acting out 449 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 3: and creating violence. We certainly don't go shooting at lawmakers' homes. 450 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 3: It has no place in what we're doing, in no 451 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: place in the conversation. Actually weakens our conversation. This actually 452 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 3: makes the anti data center crowd look much much worse 453 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 3: and weakens our argument to keep data centers out of 454 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: our communities. 455 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: Here's a Democrat in Michigan. 456 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 2: Her name is Karen a Witset, and she is torching 457 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 2: her own party and she quit. 458 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: She says, nope, I'm out. 459 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 4: The laughs. 460 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 2: The left's radical agenda does not go along with my faith. 461 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: And she said she's not going to betray her faith 462 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 2: just to be in that party. 463 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: Listen to this. 464 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 8: I just sincerely kept asking you, please do not back 465 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 8: me into a corner. Please do not back me into 466 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 8: the corner. I'm not a co signer of crazy. You 467 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 8: can do all of that and be all of that 468 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 8: all you want, But when you try to force it 469 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 8: on me and make it my. 470 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: Reality, now we have a problem. 471 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 8: I don't understand how Christian Bible. 472 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: Go together and Democratic Party. 473 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so she is just flat out saying that 474 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 2: her Christian faith no longer aligns with today's Democratic Party. 475 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 4: Well, I mean she's not the only one. Good for her. 476 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 3: Look, I love when you see a politician that is 477 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 3: not completely beholden to their party, that when they believe 478 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: their parties in the wrong, they're not afraid to stand 479 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 3: up and say it and take appropriate action. So a 480 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 3: big credit to this Michigan Democrat for standing up on this, 481 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: But I think a lot of Democrats have felt this way. Look, 482 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 3: if you were to look at Bill Clinton today, Bill 483 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 3: Clinton would be further right than the current Republican Party. 484 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 3: I mean Bill Clinton was all about lower taxes, reduced 485 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 3: government spending, shutting down the borders, and removing all illegal immigrants. 486 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 3: And by the way, that immigration position from Bill Clinton 487 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 3: was held by virtually every other Democrat in the nineties, 488 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 3: including Chuck Schumer, who has been about the most vocal 489 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 3: person wanting to support sanctuary cities wanting to support illegal 490 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 3: immigrants in this country. These Democrats, traditional Democrats have not changed. 491 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 3: The Democratic Party has changed, and it has just moved 492 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 3: so far left. If you're a Clinton Democrat, the current 493 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: Democrat Party is completely unrecognizable to you. 494 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: Well, she it's not like she's new. She was in 495 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:19,959 Speaker 1: for five years. 496 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: She was in the Michigan State House, and now she's out. 497 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: And she's from the Detroit area, the ninth district, and 498 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 2: that leans heavily blue. And she's still she's saying, Nope, 499 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: they're too crazy for me. 500 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: I can't. 501 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: I'm not beholden to the Democrat Party. I'm going to 502 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 2: stay true to my faith. 503 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 3: Well, think about what the Democrats used to stand for. 504 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: Democrats used to be, you know, against big business and 505 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 3: elite rich people. Yet all the Democrats in Congress are 506 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 3: filthy rich and do nothing but support big business and 507 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 3: want to, you know, do everything to you know, sure, 508 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 3: you know, curate the entire American economy to help only 509 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: the elites and at the very top. The Democrats used 510 00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: to be pro union. 511 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 4: Oh. Trump sure certainly made quick work of that, didn't he. 512 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 4: He was the. 513 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 3: Preferred union worker's choice in the last election. So that 514 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 3: it's the Democrat party. It has shifted so far left 515 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 3: in really really a short period of time. 516 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 4: Democrats used to be the ones for free speech. 517 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: They were the ones fighting the man and fight the 518 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 3: government and free speech at all costs. 519 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 4: And then during COVID they were the ones that were saying, 520 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 4: oh no, no, no, no no, say no no, no no. 521 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 4: In fact, we hate press. We hate that speech so much. 522 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: That our president and our lawmakers are going to reach 523 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 3: out to all these social media companies and force them 524 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 3: to remove quote misinformation about COVID. 525 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 4: Think about that. 526 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 3: The Democrats used to be the ones that were all 527 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 3: for free speech, and now they are the party that 528 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 3: scrutinizes and wants to regulate speech from everybody's mouths today. 529 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: So you've got a Christian lawmaker who's walking out the 530 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 2: door citing her faith, and that just shows you that 531 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 2: that party has a problem that no messaging can fix, 532 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 2: like there is no consulting that she's gone. However, she 533 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 2: has been voting with Republicans and praising Trump for a 534 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 2: long time. So this isn't a sudden shift. 535 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: This is more like a really what do they call it? 536 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: That the Irish goodbye the Irisbye, yeah, yeah. 537 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: Law Finally she walked out the door. 538 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. But it is it is becoming more and 539 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 3: more common. We're hearing a lot more of these stories 540 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: come from either Democrat lawmakers or just average American citizens 541 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 3: from the Democrat Party. 542 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: Can we talk about what Timberchet had to say? Oh, yeah, 543 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: this is going this is going back to last week, 544 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,120 Speaker 1: and we just touched on it briefly. Matt Gates was on. 545 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: He was on News Nation or Newsmax. 546 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: And he said that he Matt Gates, a former representative 547 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: from Florida. He was in the running to be Attorney 548 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: General at one point, and he was saying that he 549 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 2: was pulled into an office when he was in Congress 550 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: and he was told that aliens walk among us, and 551 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: in fact, there's a government operation for aliens to breed 552 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: with humans. And then Representative Tim Briquette of Tennessee said, yeah, 553 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: he's kind of. 554 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 1: Not lyon, and he went on Newsmax and he said this, I. 555 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 9: Don't know if the tinfoil hat on just yet, Congressman, 556 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 9: but I'm wondering, you know, kind of how you react 557 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 9: to that because you are connected, you're on the UFO Subcommittee. 558 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 9: I mean, I'm just wondering what you make of that. 559 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 9: Have you heard anything like that? 560 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 10: Well, I'm still a member of Congress, so I can't 561 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 10: really comment too much on what Matt said, but I 562 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 10: will say this. 563 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 9: Wait, seriously, are you think serious or is that serious? 564 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 10: I've been one hundred serious. I've been brief just about 565 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 10: every alphabet agency there is. And I'll just tell you this, 566 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 10: if they would release the things that I've saying, you 567 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 10: would day up. You'd be up at night worrying about 568 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 10: or thinking about this stuff. We just need to disclose 569 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 10: it all. I'm sick of it. You're well, I was, 570 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 10: I was brief. I'll just tell you this. I was 571 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 10: brief last week on an issue or excuse me, two 572 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 10: weeks ago, and it would have set the earth. Thought this, 573 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 10: this country would have come uncoluted. 574 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 4: I think if they would have heard all that I. 575 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 10: Heard, they would they would demand answers and then we 576 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 10: need to But you know, it's it's never going to 577 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 10: get Unfortunately, it just keeps getting covered up and covered up, 578 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 10: and the people that know are dying are disappearing as 579 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 10: the case may be. And for the record, I'm not suicidal. 580 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: Think about this, You've got Congress that can't pass a budget, 581 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 2: but we have at the same time this full time 582 00:29:53,760 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: UFO soap opera going on, complete with I'm not suicidal disclaim. 583 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the most interesting thing at the end, 584 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 3: and not an unreasonable statement to make, because there are 585 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: a lot of people that have been involved in the era, 586 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 3: in the in the UFO community, former you know, military people, 587 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 3: NASA scientists that have just kind of disappeared recently, So 588 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 3: reasonable for him to make these statements about aliens and 589 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: then wrap it all up by saying, and by the way, 590 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: I'm not suicidal, which is you know, winking a nod 591 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 3: to if I'm dead somebody killed me, because I certainly 592 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 3: didn't commit suicide in this. And look, timber Kad, he's 593 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 3: not a crazy person. This is like a normal regular politician. 594 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 3: He's been in Congress for almost twenty years. He served 595 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 3: in the Tennessee State House and state Senate before that, 596 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 3: so you know, he's a fairly level headed, normal regular guy. 597 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: But the concept of him, and I do find this interesting, 598 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: the concept of him saying that aliens walk among us 599 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: and aliens have been you know, mating for lack of 600 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 3: a better term, with humans forever is a completely minding concept. 601 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 3: I will also say there is a new Stephen Spielberg 602 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 3: movie coming out this summer called Disclosure Day, and while 603 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 3: they haven't dropped all of the details in it, it 604 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 3: is heavily implied that some of the things that timbercatches 605 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 3: came out and said that aliens are among us and 606 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 3: have been, you know, interbreeding with humans for a long time. 607 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: Okay, so he's not providing any evidence. 608 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 2: Of course, he's not providing any evidence and he's not 609 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: leaking anything. 610 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: But he did go on. 611 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: With the two TMZ guys TMZ trying to be political 612 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: now all of a sudden, which I find that's a 613 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: whole different interesting thing. But they asked him point blank 614 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 2: and he says, yeah, aliens are real and there has 615 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 2: been human contact. 616 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: Listen to this. 617 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 10: I don't think we're at dyinger of this. Samanthey sings 618 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 10: exist as I think they do. They could have destroyed 619 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 10: us with the blank of an eye. I just don't 620 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 10: see that, and I think that I just think so. 621 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 10: But I do think they have the technology and the 622 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 10: capabilities of something that we can't understand or we can't grasp. 623 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 11: What I want to make sure I'm understanding. Is a 624 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 11: member of our government has told you and others. I 625 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 11: guess that there is a form of alien life and 626 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 11: machinery which maybe brought this living creature here that interacted 627 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 11: in some form with people. 628 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 10: Yeah, they have, and they've It's it's pretty wild. 629 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 4: I know, I know. 630 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 10: But if I'm just telling you, I'm not going to 631 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 10: lie to you, I take a lot of to You 632 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 10: won't put me on a polygraph. I'll take it. But 633 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 10: you know, this is what the guy told me. I mean, 634 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 10: I've had a very high ranking naval official described you know, 635 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 10: I've talked about this before, underwater craft something big as 636 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 10: a football field at over two hundred miles an hour day, 637 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 10: and there's no fish in the ocean that would do that. 638 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 10: We don't even have a sub that'll probably do forty 639 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 10: miles an hour under the And the last thing he 640 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 10: said before he left my office was it was kind 641 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,479 Speaker 10: of weird because he didn't go out the he went 642 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 10: out the side doors nobody ever uses. And he looked 643 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 10: at me and pulled me up because he said, Tim, 644 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 10: they're real. 645 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Casey, he's not saying he saw it. 646 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 2: He's saying he was told, well, so what he wants 647 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 2: to take a polygraph test based on of course he's 648 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: going to pass that. 649 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: He's not making up a conversation. 650 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 3: Well, he does have access to classified information talking about 651 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 3: these sorts of things. Look, Casey, I'm full, all right, 652 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 3: I'm full on disasters and once in a lifetime, you know, 653 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 3: crazy events where war with Iran aliens are among us. 654 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 4: There's a super al LEENO come in this summer. I'm done. 655 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 4: I've had enough. 656 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 3: I'm full with once in a generation or once in 657 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: a hundred year events. 658 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: This week is a lot, isn't it already? 659 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 3: And it's only it's only Tuesday, and we were gone 660 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 3: for a couple of days. We're just getting back here 661 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 3: at the radio station WIBC. It's like everything's hitting us 662 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 3: right in the face. 663 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: Hitting in the face with advanced technology. 664 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: He says. 665 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 2: The technology is so far beyond comprehension that they could 666 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 2: have wiped us out long ago if they wanted to. 667 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: But we're still here. So I guess that's kind. 668 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 4: Of comforting, very comforting. 669 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: You're hearing all. 670 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 2: Of this talk about now there's actually aliens, you know what, 671 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 2: they're going to have wiped us out already. 672 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: If they wanted to. 673 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 3: He did kind of throw that in there is outside 674 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 3: that it's fine. They've been here for a while, they're 675 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 3: not going to hurt us. 676 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 4: It's all good. Then, it's really not to worry about it. 677 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 4: It's fine. I'm sure we'll be fine, and we'll probably 678 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 4: be fine. 679 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: You're listening to Casey and Jim. It is ninety three WYBC. 680 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: It is time for did you hear this? 681 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 4: It's where we feature. 682 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: Some good audio and this one is of Dave portnoy. So. 683 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 2: He's the founder of Barstool Sports and he his pizza review. 684 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: He's been doing it since twenty seventeen. 685 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: Takes one bite of a pizza and rates it on 686 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 2: a scale of zero to ten. One bye, everybody knows 687 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 2: the rules. He was in town for the NCAA Championship game. 688 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 2: He's a big Michigan fan, and of course while he 689 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 2: was in town, he took some advice on where to 690 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 2: go for a pizza review and they came up with 691 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 2: Pizza King. 692 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 1: And this is what he thinks of it. 693 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 7: Pizza King number one recommended that looks Chicago. 694 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 4: Style from the box. 695 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,479 Speaker 7: In Indiana tradition, since nineteen fifty six, a royal treat 696 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 7: one bite. Everyone knows the rules. 697 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 4: Chicago style. That's tavern style. Although it has little almost 698 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 4: looks like something's been dotted on it. 699 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 7: I'm gonna tell you this right now. 700 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 3: The outside perimeter slices. 701 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 4: Those are the gold those are the big size. 702 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:58,760 Speaker 7: The middle get a little soupy. 703 00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: Now. 704 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 7: I saw in the comments some people being like, don't 705 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 7: go to Pizza King. You're not gonna like Pizza King. 706 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 7: There's just this is just very decent Chicago style pizza 707 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,439 Speaker 7: tavern pizza. 708 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 10: I'm gonna go. 709 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 4: I mean that thing is good. 710 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 7: I'm also hungry. I'm gonna go seven to three. It's 711 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 7: just a very traditional need to cook it more in 712 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 7: the middle. 713 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 4: Oh that good. 714 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 7: Chicago is isl in Indiana. I don't know if Indiana 715 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 7: people are gonna be like, oh, this is Indiana style. No, 716 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 7: this Chicago tavern pizza. I love the logo looks like 717 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,959 Speaker 7: a playing card. By the way, seven to three Pizza King, Indianapolis. 718 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 7: The traditions is nineteen fifty six, go blue. 719 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: So he should have gone to noble Romans. That's all 720 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna Oh, you think noble Romans and sh should 721 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: have gone to nover Romans. Get some breadsticks and some 722 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: cheese sauce and dip it in. It'd have been happy. 723 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 3: Dave Bortnoy traditionally a tough grater when it comes to pizza. 724 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 3: So seven three is right in the middle, and he's right. 725 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 3: Pizza King is is good pizza. What's great about Pizza 726 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 3: King is the nostalgia of Pizza King, and it's been 727 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 3: around in the fifties and there's locations all over the state. 728 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 3: It's kind of an Indiana thing. That's the real value. 729 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 3: It's good pizza. And that was a right in the 730 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 3: middle good score for it. 731 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 2: So if he were Tony the Tiger, he would have 732 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 2: said it's acceptable, just fine, serviceable. 733 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to Casey and Jim. It is ninety three 734 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: WYBC