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Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel do you believe these characters are weirdos?

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Speaker 2: Let My name is Nigel Jason Hammer.

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Speaker 3: Right over there, the Brown University killer is dead, thank god.

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Speaker 3: This piece of garbage forty eight years old, Portuguese national,

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Speaker 3: former PhD Physics student at Brown Hammer. There are a

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Speaker 3: lot of layers to this story, and the timeline is

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Speaker 3: very interesting. He's the one that killed the girl who

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Speaker 3: is a leader of the Republican Club, a devout Christian

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Speaker 3: and also a gentleman that was migrated I think from

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Speaker 2: And then.

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Speaker 3: A few days later we now know that he is

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Speaker 3: the one that killed the MIT professor. This is going

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Speaker 3: to make one hell of a movie one day.

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Speaker 2: It really is, because the MIT professor and we had

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Speaker 2: wondered if this was connected, and now we know for

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Speaker 2: sure it is. But the MIT professor was once a

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Speaker 2: classmate of the deceased gunman back when he was enrolled

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Speaker 2: at Brown. So that in itself is a pretty wacky coincidence.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's a coincidence or targeted attack

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Speaker 2: either way, So that's number one. But also the way

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Speaker 2: that this came to a conclusion, so the police department

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Speaker 2: and the authorities yesterday say we've uncovered some shell casings,

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Speaker 2: were able to use some DNA testing to figure out,

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Speaker 2: you know, who this may be. All right, that's great.

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Speaker 2: So the DNA testing kind of gets them in the

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Speaker 2: right direction of who the suspect may be. So they

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Speaker 2: go on a manhunt, but they still don't know where

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Speaker 2: he's at. They find out where this guy is at

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Speaker 2: because of a homeless guy, a Brown University alum that

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Speaker 2: allegedly was living in the engineering building, like in the

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Speaker 2: basement without anybody knowing what. And like Rudy a little bit, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, for God's sake, a little bit, and you're

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Speaker 2: telling me this homeless guy. You're about ready to fill

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Speaker 2: us in on this.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just I'm scratching my head when you said

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Speaker 3: this story could be made into a movie, I mean

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Speaker 3: you immediately there's so many layers.

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Speaker 2: So the homeless guy that apparently is Brown alumni living

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Speaker 2: day before and the day of the attacks, and I

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Speaker 2: He kind of keeps an eye on him because he

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Speaker 2: sees this guy that doesn't look familiar. It's a forty

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Speaker 2: eight year old Portuguese national. He sees this guy walking

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Speaker 2: to his car, so he kind of walks out to

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Speaker 2: keep an eye on him. I think they had an interaction.

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Speaker 2: They had some sort of interaction and the guy, instead

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Speaker 2: of getting into his car, immediately locks it back with

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Speaker 4: Away in a weird, you know, I'm up to no

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Speaker 2: So the homeless guy goes to Reddit and he writes

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Speaker 2: this post on Reddit saying, Hey, just so you know,

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Speaker 2: And I'm paraphrasing here, but there's kind of a weird

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Speaker 4: He's a little bit older.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's a student, but I just

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 2: So fast forward a couple of hours later, he must

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Speaker 2: have got flagged somehow. Just a couple of hours later,

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Speaker 2: that's when the shooting at Brown takes place. So according

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Speaker 2: to the police AFFI David, the homeless guy like the

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Speaker 2: next day goes into the police Okay, and says, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm the guy that wrote the Reddit thread. I can

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Speaker 2: tell you about the car, and that's how the authorities

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Speaker 2: guy living in the engineering building. So they tracked down

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Speaker 2: So they show up at the storage facility. They're going

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Speaker 2: And the only reason they got there it wasn't because

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Speaker 2: That is.

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Speaker 3: I can't comprehend how strange this is, two elite Northeast

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Speaker 3: institutions of higher education affected by one the guy, the

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Speaker 3: shooter who went to Brown killed the two Brown students,

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Speaker 3: and alerted the authorities.

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Speaker 4: Correct. I here is the fossible news.

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Speaker 2: Report today on how this all played out. Because I

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Speaker 2: want you to hear it from another voice, so you

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Speaker 2: think that I'm not making all this crap up.

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Speaker 4: Here, take a listen.

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Speaker 5: By a homeless man who goes by John Now. Investigators

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Speaker 5: say that he's a former Brown University student who grew

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Speaker 5: suspicious of the gunman when he locked eyes with him

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Speaker 5: the Barris and Holly building. The gunman his name is

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Speaker 5: Claudio Nevis Valente. Now John pictured here is the man

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Speaker 5: police were looking to speak to because of how close

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Speaker 5: he got to that gunman. John said he followed Nevis

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Speaker 5: a game of cat and mouse in the neighborhood. Surveillance

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Speaker 5: video shows Nevis Valente running away from John. At one point,

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Speaker 5: he stood just feet away from the gunman and questioned

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Speaker 5: why he was circling the block. The gunman repeatedly responded, quote,

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Speaker 5: why are you harassing me? When police released images of

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Speaker 5: the suspect after the shooting, John wrote an anonymous Reddit

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Speaker 5: Three days after the shooting, John anonymously called the police

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Speaker 5: John walked up to police, revealed that he was the

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Speaker 5: the gunman, and that the Reddit post came from him.

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Again, if this happens in a movie, you would say, Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's a good movie. But there's no way this is realistic.

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Speaker 2: All of the things that are connected. Well, first of all, John,

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Speaker 2: the homeless guy's a hero and he etc. Reward. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars. Oh, he deserves every penny for that reward.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if they get off on.

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Speaker 3: Some technicality arrest, convicted, charged, I think was the conditions

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Speaker 2: Anything that would lead to the arrest should be rewarded

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Speaker 2: worth well. I'm not disagreeing with you. Now the other

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Speaker 2: angle to this, Okay, take the horrific homicides out of

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Speaker 2: the equation. Here again, imagine if you were the parent

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Speaker 2: of a student that goes to Brown. At first, you're

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Speaker 2: given this all clear signal on campus when they had

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Speaker 2: all clear. And then you're finding out you're paying tuition

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Speaker 2: to one of the most expensive Ivy League schools in

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Speaker 2: America and they have no idea that there's a homeless

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Speaker 2: dude living inside of one of the buildings who's an alumni. Right,

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Speaker 2: A lot of good that education did. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is just so bizarre. There are so many different layers

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Speaker 2: to this story. But I'm with you, he should totally

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Speaker 2: get the reward. And I was talking with Crystal earlier.

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Speaker 2: Remember the movie Real Genius with Val Kilmer. Yes, remember

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Speaker 2: the guy that was like living inside the university Laslow

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Speaker 2: I believe was his name. Yeah, it was the actor

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Speaker 2: that played Uncle Rico. Right, And there's some elaborate maze

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Speaker 2: that he had to go through. Right, Maybe that's kind

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Speaker 2: of the thing we're talking about here, like some smart person,

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Speaker 2: because if you go to Brown, you've got some smarts.

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Speaker 3: The movie with Honors with Joe Peschi, I think he

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Speaker 3: was kind of a similar situation like with Brendan Fraser.

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Speaker 3: And I think maybe Patrick Dempsey's in that movie, but

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Speaker 4: The Brendan Fraser was in that for sure, I think.

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Speaker 3: But Joe Petchi was like living in yeah as a

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: This story is nuts and one day they're going to

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Speaker 2: make a movie out of this thing and it's going

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Speaker 2: to be phenomenal.

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Speaker 4: Uh nigs.

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Speaker 2: If you didn't know the Hallmark Channel, they've been doing

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Speaker 2: a countdown to Christmas. I've seen all of them. They

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Speaker 2: are in full Christmas countdown mode and they're airing all

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Speaker 2: of their Christmas movies like all the time.

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Speaker 4: It's like a marathon of Hallmark Christmas movies.

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Speaker 2: My channel never leaves that stage.

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Speaker 4: You celebrate everyone.

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Speaker 2: And while most our picture perfect settings, don't miss a

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Speaker 2: very special love story that they're going to be airing tonight.

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Speaker 6: No, he was a mytho with an unhealthy attraction to

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Speaker 6: farm animals.

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Speaker 4: The cow.

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Speaker 6: She was the county sheriff with a heart of gold.

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Speaker 6: Tonight on Hallmarks Countdown to Christmas, the Hallmark Channel original

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Speaker 6: a County Jail Christmas Bookie.

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Speaker 4: Got you something for Christmas? Climb chili shrimp ramen That

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Speaker 4: sounds amazing.

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Speaker 6: How you smuggle it in? Love is never contraband Sheriff.

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Speaker 6: Can you make it sound like a go.

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Speaker 4: A county jail Christmas?

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Speaker 6: Oh, Sheriff, only on the Hallmark channel.

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Speaker 3: Good lord, oh man, I can't wait to get over

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Speaker 3: and watch.

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Speaker 2: That sounds like something the Alabama fans would enjoy. I'm

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Speaker 2: telling you tonight, if Alabama wins and we get two

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Speaker 2: weeks to prepare for I you against Alabama in a

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Speaker 2: football game? Oh baby, get ready because the jokes are

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Speaker 2: going to be coming fast and furious about those Hillbillies,

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Speaker 2: Matt Bear, do we have anything to worry about out

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Speaker 2: on the roads? Hammer?

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Speaker 4: Sho you guys hiring what you guys hiring for?

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Speaker 7: What job?

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Speaker 2: I mean sweeping floors? In the sweeping floors?

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Speaker 8: Joe building.

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Speaker 2: Boy, you sound like you don't even know how to

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Speaker 2: work a Broom's fastening to the Hammer and Nigel.

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Speaker 3: Show, Red White and Bowl, Come On, Come On, presented

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Speaker 3: by Jack Daniels, our third event the Hammer in Nigel,

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Speaker 3: Red White and Bowl having a January sixteenth, that wood

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Speaker 3: Woodland Bowl hammer. But I'm a little concerned with these numbers.

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Speaker 3: It's a good concern. But if you were listening right

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Speaker 3: now and want to get in on the party, why

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Speaker 3: don't you give everybody the news.

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Speaker 2: Only four lanes are left. So when I say four lanes,

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Speaker 2: a lane is six tickets.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So if.

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Speaker 2: You still want to go with like a buddy or

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Speaker 2: your son or your two sons or whatever, you can

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Speaker 2: still buy individual tickets, but we count a lane as

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Speaker 2: six people, so.

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Speaker 4: Only four lanes are left.

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Speaker 2: By the time we come back on Monday, there's a

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Speaker 2: good chance this bad Boy is going to be sold out.

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Speaker 2: So if you got paid today it's Friday, some of

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Speaker 2: you did, and you're looking for like a very cool

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Speaker 2: outside the box Christmas gift. If somebody in your family

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Speaker 2: likes bowling, or they like to hammer in Nigel Show,

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Speaker 2: or they like to drink beer and eat pizza, buy

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Speaker 2: them tickets to this because it's about to sell out.

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Speaker 4: Only four lanes left.

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Speaker 2: You can buy tickets by going to WIBC dot com.

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Speaker 10: First of all, welcome to the party. Second of all,

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Speaker 10: will tell you this one. What is a Christmas movie

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Speaker 10: The one that always every time I hear it, see

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Speaker 4: Oh what Ralphie and the Red Rider, BB gun.

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Speaker 10: Jump, boring, lame movie, It's terrible.

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Speaker 4: You don't like the leg lamp or you don't like.

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Speaker 10: left with Chinese food and what television stage that ran

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Speaker 3: Well, that's how that's how that movie ends with them

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Speaker 10: Bad, but they made the same bad decision we're making.

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Speaker 8: This movie is awful.

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Speaker 2: On Twitter from Shooter McGavin, Okay, he says the mom

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Speaker 11: She is a strong woman.

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Speaker 10: Number one movie I've ever heard of where we blame

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Speaker 2: Soundtrack of Die Hard features Christmas and Hollis by run DMC.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be the study of it that's

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Speaker 2: That can happen at any time of the year. But

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Speaker 10: That's true? And what were were ticket was digital on

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Speaker 10: your Internet?

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Speaker 2: Now what do you do right if you have your

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Speaker 2: ticket on your Apple wallet? Does Tom Hanks not let

447
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Speaker 2: you on the Polar Express as an a hole? The

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Speaker 2: conductor was an a hole in that movie? Was sure?

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Speaker 4: Agreed? Nudge mine again.

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Speaker 3: We're doing uh, we're naming Christmas movies that everyone loves.

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Speaker 2: But you hate. I hate Elf with so over the top.

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Speaker 4: And Meryl you have a pig there with Will Ferrel.

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Speaker 2: Love Will Ferrell. I can't stand Elf. I don't understand

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Speaker 2: like he grew up with all the other L's. None

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Speaker 2: of the other Elves act like he does. Did he

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Speaker 2: not learn anything from them? He just stayed a kid.

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Speaker 4: Well, he was a stowaway, right, That's how he was different.

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Speaker 2: Let's traumatize look by the way for being honest with

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Speaker 2: each other in this politically correct society.

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Speaker 3: We don't want men's in women's locker rooms. And that's

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Speaker 3: exactly what you had in Elf when Will Ferrell was

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Speaker 3: singing along with Zoe dash Nationale and I'm not okay

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Speaker 3: with that. I'm not okay with men in women's locker

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Speaker 3: rooms creeping him away.

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Speaker 10: Wait wait, wait, hold on. It was like he was

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Speaker 10: getting changed next to her. She was sitting on a

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Speaker 10: sing sing well.

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Speaker 12: I.

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Speaker 3: Don't want my daughter, I don't I don't want my

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Speaker 3: daughter singing, you know, duet with any sort of dude,

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Speaker 3: childlike or not in a locker room in the shower.

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Speaker 2: So Dan, based off your argument, I can come to

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Speaker 2: Casa day Levy. Wait till your wife gets in the shower,

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Speaker 2: walk into the bathroom and we can sing together.

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Speaker 4: And that's fine.

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Speaker 10: Wait good. First of all, first of all, have had

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Speaker 10: I will Chicago.

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Speaker 2: I will go.

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Speaker 10: If you get it in that shower without a gun

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Speaker 10: in your mouth.

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Speaker 3: The scene with Peter Dinklic He's an angry little Elf,

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Speaker 3: that was probably that's my favorite scene of the movie.

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Speaker 2: There are some great cameos in there. There's Peter Dinglish,

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Speaker 2: I love James Kahn.

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Speaker 4: I'm a James guy.

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Speaker 2: And any movie with big permanent and I don't know

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Speaker 2: what the actor's name is. Who's the manager at the

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Speaker 2: retail of the Christmas store? Right? Okay?

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Speaker 4: People, tomorrow morning, am Sanna's coming in?

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Speaker 9: Down God?

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 4: I know him, I know him.

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Speaker 11: How do you love Anchorman but don't like Elf? That

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Speaker 11: makes no sense to me, by the way.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's it, fase on love.

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Speaker 2: I love everything he's in, So I'm want to come

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Speaker 2: to the table with It's a Wonderful life.

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Speaker 4: What is wrong with only.

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Speaker 3: One of the most beloved Christmas movies in the history

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Speaker 3: of cinema?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, nothing says you know? Make the Yule Tide gay?

502
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: Like a depressing suicide movie. That's what we all want

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Speaker 2: to watch as we're trying to get in a good mood.

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Speaker 2: At least just some redemption in it. Like the whole

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Speaker 2: town is just full of like ungrateful losers who reap

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Speaker 2: what they sew. Right, they deserve to lose their money,

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Speaker 2: first of all, if they trusted with the no good,

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Speaker 2: rotten moron that's running the bank and loan now and

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Speaker 2: Bailey's family sucks like George didn't want to run like

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Speaker 2: the bank and loan, but his family was so bad

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Speaker 2: at it, he felt like, I'll give it a try.

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Speaker 4: And then the.

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Speaker 2: Townspeople turned on him just because he was trying. He's

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Speaker 2: trying to bail out their incompetence, and it led him

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Speaker 2: to suicide. Yeah, let's drink some egg nog to that.

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Speaker 2: George Bailey spends the entire film compromising his happiness for

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Speaker 2: a town of ingrates. Can I get another clip here, Alison,

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Speaker 2: shut up, you little brat. George Bailey's life and it's

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Speaker 2: a wonderful life. Nudge in many ways is like Kamala

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Speaker 2: Harris's time as the Vice President. It's a bleak, thoroughly depressing,

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Speaker 2: tragic story of somebody who's never made it to Europe,

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Speaker 2: but they settled down with the average neighborhood towny whose

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Speaker 2: ambition and life's desires and hopes and dreams are systematically

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Speaker 2: denied and trust by the small minded townies in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, the whole thing's depressing. It sucks, Dan,

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Speaker 2: it sucks.

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Speaker 10: I feel like if we would have actually asked Ebenezer

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Speaker 10: Scrooge what he thought was the worst Christmas movie of

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Speaker 10: all time, I think we would have heard the exact

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Speaker 10: day in his mouth, and.

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Speaker 2: Let's be honest, George settles for the woman in that town,

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Speaker 2: right and like in that scene.

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Speaker 8: Time.

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Speaker 11: And the scene which is I'm done with this segment.

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Speaker 11: Continue where they.

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Speaker 2: Had like the flashback of what the town would look

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Speaker 2: like if Potter ran it. It looks amazing, It looks

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00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: like Vegas. It looks so fun to be around, and

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Speaker 2: George wants you to look like something for pleasant Bill

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Speaker 2: that sucks. You know what, Maybe the world would have

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Speaker 2: been better off without George. Go ahead and make the jump.

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Speaker 10: Hey, yes, ladies and gentlemen, if you want to hear

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Speaker 10: more argument that set off party family, party fires like

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Speaker 10: this one, feel freeing to Dell on my podcast. This

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Speaker 10: is what happens with a fun argument called argument. It's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: I know you're Jewish, but hey, marry Christmas.

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Speaker 10: Dan, everybody. I fell very Christmas too. Very Christmas to everybody.

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Speaker 10: Thanks so much you guys for let me have some pooney.

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Speaker 10: You guys this yere, let's keep it going.

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Speaker 4: It's the Hammer and Nigel show Hammer and Nigel.

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Speaker 13: You believe these characters are weirdos.

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Speaker 3: Hell, everybody, my name is Nigel Jason Hammer. Right over,

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Speaker 3: there with the very special guest on the hotline.

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Speaker 2: One of our favorites is the president of the Fraternal

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Speaker 2: Order of Police launch eighty six. Rick Snyder, joins us. Rick,

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Speaker 2: let's get down to it here. We've been talking a

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Speaker 2: lot about what's going on with the alleged killer of

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Speaker 2: Elwood officer Noah shannav Oz.

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Speaker 4: This is a guy that has had multiple.

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Speaker 2: Psychiatrists testify to a judge that he's not mentally competent

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Speaker 2: to stay in trial, and ultimately the judge has basically stated,

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Speaker 2: all right, I agree, We're going to send him away

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Speaker 2: to some rehab facility and we'll check back.

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Speaker 4: In again here in about ninety days.

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Speaker 2: I don't like the trend here, Rick, I feel like

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Speaker 2: some of these killers and scumbags are doing this on purpose.

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Speaker 4: That's my opinion.

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Speaker 14: What about you, well, guys, I think you're right. It's

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Speaker 14: the trend that you're seeing all across our state, but

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Speaker 14: really all across our country, which is the abuse of

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Speaker 14: the so called competency determinations. You know, they said that

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Speaker 14: the offender in this case lack the ability to understand

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Speaker 14: the criminal proceedings and when it's unable to assist option

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Speaker 14: of their defense. Here's the point in my response, You've

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Speaker 14: got to be kidding me. He didn't have any problems

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Speaker 14: dumping thirty six rounds into a cop, and he didn't

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Speaker 14: have any problems understanding right from wrong when he then

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Speaker 14: violently fled and resisted arrest. And he didn't have any

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Speaker 14: problem understanding his intentions to stab a prison guard with

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Speaker 14: a hand fashioned, handcrafted, pre made knife while awaiting trial.

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Speaker 14: Yet here we sit with defense lawyers who first tried

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Speaker 14: to plead insanity, but they were even forced to withdraw

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Speaker 14: that eventually. And now we see that everything keeps getting

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Speaker 14: blamed on this issue of mental health. The guys, here's

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Speaker 14: what the message is. Evil is evil, and the more

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Speaker 14: we dismiss it, the more we make excuses for it,

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Speaker 14: the more apt we are to be bitten by it.

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Speaker 14: And what you're seeing is the remaining junk judicial exhaust

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Speaker 14: of what we have called the Stoner special Judge Mark Stoner,

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Speaker 14: who gave a lenient sentence to this same cop killer

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Speaker 14: years prior in Indianapolis when he was convicted for trying

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Speaker 14: to shoot and kill police officers. Here we spoke out

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Speaker 14: about that and if you remember his peers in the

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Speaker 14: judicial world, condemned us for doing so, and here we

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Speaker 14: sit reaping what he sowed those years back. And guys,

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Speaker 14: it's something that's got to change. We're hopeful that we'll

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Speaker 14: see a change after this treatment plan that he is on.

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Speaker 14: But I think it ultimately begs the question, do the

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Speaker 14: judges involved and do the practitioners that do the mental

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Speaker 14: health examinations It would be interesting to know if they

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Speaker 14: are truly supporters of the death penalty in the state

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Speaker 14: of Indiana or if they secretly are opposed to the

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Speaker 14: death penalty and use the cover of these proceedings to

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Speaker 14: enact their own personal opinions.

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Speaker 3: And Michael, my old point is what incentive does this

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Speaker 3: subhuman now have to quote unquote get reh abilitated so

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Speaker 3: he has the ability to stand trial. Like he could

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Speaker 3: fake it. He could act like a crazy pres like

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Speaker 3: oh okay, I'm going to go to this rehab facility

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Speaker 3: and I'm going to get better so I could stand

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Speaker 3: trial and so they could possibly put me to death.

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Speaker 3: I just don't see any incentive at all for this.

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Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 14: Well, and guys, what you're seeing are judges like Judge

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Speaker 14: Mark Stoner, who even in the the criminal proceedings for

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Speaker 14: the cop killer in the officer Brian Leaf case. Yes

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Speaker 14: you know, was later found to have aired in his

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Speaker 14: level of conviction charges for being too lenient by the

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Speaker 14: Indiana Supreme Court. Yet even in that Judge Stoner sought

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Speaker 14: out himself the fact to make excuses for the offender

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Speaker 14: and guys, it's got lost in the shovel. But they

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Speaker 14: even tried to make the excuse of a football concussion

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Speaker 14: when the offender was a child for being an excuse

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Speaker 14: for assassinating a police officer. That's what we're dealing with,

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Speaker 14: and that's why we say the sanctity of life for

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Speaker 14: the victims. People forget those folks. The victims must mean

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Speaker 14: more than the personal opinions and affiliations of those who

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Speaker 14: are passing judgment.

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Speaker 2: Rick, one more thing on this before we move on,

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Speaker 2: because we have a couple of other things I want

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Speaker 2: to get your opinion on. But I want to make

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Speaker 2: everybody perfectly aware though this is a Madison County judge

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Speaker 2: that's in charge of Noah Shaannavaz's case, it's not Judge

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Speaker 2: Mark Stoner. But what do we do in situations Rick

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Speaker 2: where you've got to judge? But he's got these psychiatrists

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Speaker 2: coming to him saying, yeah, this guy's not mentally competent.

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Speaker 2: How does a judge handle that type of situation.

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Speaker 14: Well, I think a judicial review has to step through

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Speaker 14: that medical diagnosis process. It appears that this judge is

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Speaker 14: taking the course of at least sending for the treatment

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Speaker 14: plan over the next ninety days or so, and then

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Speaker 14: another determination evaluation. The goal is to restore him to competency.

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Speaker 14: That's what the court has said. We're trusting that's what

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Speaker 14: will occur. And then we know that the Madison County

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Speaker 14: prosecutor is more than prepared to move forward with prosecuting

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Speaker 14: this case. But guys, it can't get lost in the shuffle.

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Speaker 14: This is the detrimental effects of the revolving door that

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Speaker 14: that case in Madison County tracks all the way back

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Speaker 14: to Indianapolis, with prior attempts on officers' lives being dismissed

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Speaker 14: by an Indianapolis judge. And that's why folks across Indiana

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Speaker 14: have to be concerned with what's occurring in their capital

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Speaker 14: city and beyond. It begs this question, and this is

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Speaker 14: what people in the community are left saying, do we

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Speaker 14: really believe this is how it would be handled if

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Speaker 14: the same type of violence and attacks were being directed

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Speaker 14: upon the very decision makers involved in these issues. I

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Speaker 14: think most anyone would know that if this was an attack,

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Speaker 14: such a henious attack on a judge, God forbid, no

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Speaker 14: one would advocate that.

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Speaker 2: But if the.

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Speaker 14: Roles were reversed, you're telling me that this is the

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Speaker 14: same approach they would take. We throw the BS flag

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Speaker 14: on that. And we should not be dismissing the lives

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Speaker 14: of our officers who enforce the law that they are adjudicating.

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Speaker 2: Speaking with Rick Schneider, President of the Fraternal Order of Police,

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Speaker 2: Lodge eighty six here in Indy, Rick, this may be

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Speaker 2: the last time we speak before the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: So big picture here, where is Indy at in terms

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Speaker 2: of our crime our homicide rate? I know the folks

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Speaker 2: in the Mayor's office and the prosecutor's office, they're real

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Speaker 2: quick to do victory lapse when we don't set a record,

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Speaker 2: which should speak volumes that they have to celebrate when

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Speaker 2: we don't set a record.

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Speaker 4: But where are we at?

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Speaker 14: Well, we're currently at one hundred and fifty nine homicides

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Speaker 14: in the city of Indianapolis, which is much better than

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Speaker 14: where we typically have been for the last five years.

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Speaker 14: No one is dismissing that. But the key indicator that

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Speaker 14: we keep pointing to is your rate of reduction matching

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Speaker 14: or exceeding comparable cities throughout the nation. And what we

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Speaker 14: have been consistently in showing is other cities are coming

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Speaker 14: down as well. Yet Indianapolis is not on a decrease

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Speaker 14: that is as fast or as much as these other cities.

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Speaker 14: Proof positive comparative analysis shows that Indianapolis still is outpacing

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Speaker 14: Chicago in homicides per capita the last time we checked

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Speaker 14: by seventeen percent. So I think that's why you see

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Speaker 14: Chief Bailey hedging his comments by saying, this is no victory,

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Speaker 14: this is not satisfactory. We know there is still plenty

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Speaker 14: of more work to do, but it's important to note this.

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Speaker 14: Our officers and our detectives have busted their asses to

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Speaker 14: try to make this city safe in spite of the

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Speaker 14: revolving door of criminal justice, in spite of this lacklust

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Speaker 14: or prosecutor we have, and in spite of rogue judges

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Speaker 14: that we run up on. So they are to be

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Speaker 14: commended for what they're putting to risk. And I think

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Speaker 14: we're seeing the outcomes of that. Imagine what it could

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Speaker 14: be if some of these other things were different. So

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Speaker 14: our challenge to Indianapolis is, let's get below one hundred

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Speaker 14: homicides in twenty twenty six. That will really be saying something.

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Speaker 3: And in spite of a shortage of IMPD officers, what

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Speaker 3: does recruitment and no doubt retention, what does recruitment and

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Speaker 3: retention look like? Is it getting any better in that area?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we just put a class of twenty five in.

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Speaker 14: We've got a commitment for three classes in twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 14: which is huge. And you know that's a great point, Nigel.

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Speaker 14: All of that was done by our officers, literally with

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Speaker 14: one of their hands tied behind their back, with three

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Speaker 14: hundred and fifty officers short of where we should be.

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Speaker 14: So it's just unbelievable work by our officers.

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Speaker 2: They're to be commended.

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Speaker 14: That's why our community supports them so much and we're

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Speaker 14: grateful for it.

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Speaker 2: Got a couple of minutes left here with Rick Snyder.

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Speaker 2: He's the president of the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge

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Speaker 2: eighty six.

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Speaker 4: Rick. President Trump's been speaking.

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Speaker 2: A lot lately about legalization of marijuana, not to the

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Speaker 2: point to where it's totally legal at the feeder level,

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Speaker 2: but lesser charges for those who get busted with it

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Speaker 2: Schedule one to a Schedule three. I believe that's at

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Speaker 2: a federal level.

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Speaker 4: I know states can do their own thing here.

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Speaker 2: We had a YouTube listener that wrote us this past week,

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Speaker 2: I'm curious what Rick Snyder thinks about the possible legalization

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Speaker 2: or lessening of the charges on marijuana.

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Speaker 14: Well, it's probably not the most popular, but I do

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Speaker 14: believe it's the most responsible, nonetheless, and that is we

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Speaker 14: have strong reservations about it. We got to keep in

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Speaker 14: mind that we're not talking about Uncle Eddie's stash that's

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Speaker 14: hiding away in the tougherware box in the fridge. The

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Speaker 14: reality is the potency of modern marijuana, especially marijuana out

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Speaker 14: on the streets that by design are often laced with

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Speaker 14: other highly dangerous and deadly additives like fetanyl and other

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Speaker 14: dangerous chemicals and illegal drugs. That often then leads to

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Speaker 14: THC induced psychosis, which has been confirmed by the medical

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Speaker 14: community and courts. We've had two recent examples of that

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Speaker 14: documented in Indianapolis with deadly outcomes. One is the in

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Speaker 14: custody death that we had in Indianapolis that was highly controversial.

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Speaker 14: Two officers criminally charged by smoking Mears Ryan Meres, but

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Speaker 14: then we're ultimately fully exonerated by our courts. And then

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Speaker 14: the second is the again the top killer of officer

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Speaker 14: Brian Leith, who was who admitted to smoking and blaming

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Speaker 14: weed before assassinating a police officer. So there's some real

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Speaker 14: serious consequences. We got to make sure that we slow

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Speaker 14: the role, pardon the pun, but really try to avoid

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Speaker 14: any unintended consequences. We just note that his move was

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Speaker 14: to expedite the study of whether we should move or not.

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Speaker 14: It's not a final decision.

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Speaker 2: Rick. One more thing here before we let you go,

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Speaker 2: and again we thank you for your time. You are

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Speaker 2: the national chaplain, national chaplain for the Fraternal Order of Police.

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Speaker 2: You go all over the country. I've seen you do baptisms.

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Speaker 2: I've seen you talk to SAM members who have just

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Speaker 2: lost a loved one and.

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Speaker 4: They're in their darkest hour.

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you right now to be Chaplain

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Speaker 2: Rick Snyder, and if this is the last time we

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Speaker 2: speak before Christmas, give us something uplifting that we can

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Speaker 2: take into the holidays.

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Speaker 14: Well, we're in twenty twenty five, guys, getting ready to

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Speaker 14: go into twenty twenty six, if you can even believe that.

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Speaker 14: But it's important to remember twenty and twenty five AD,

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Speaker 14: and that AD stands for Anno Domini, which means the

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Speaker 14: year of our Lord. Remember count those years back, twenty

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Speaker 14: twenty five, twenty twenty four, twenty twenty two thousand, keep going,

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Speaker 14: and ultimately you're going to count back to something that

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Speaker 14: happened that was rather large, if you will. And that

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Speaker 14: is what the scriptures promised us, which is unto us.

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Speaker 14: A savior was born and is Christ the Lord. But

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Speaker 14: it didn't end there, guys. It's important to remember that

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Speaker 14: God became flesh, he walked upon this earth. He died

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Speaker 14: on a cross to restore us back to the Father

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Speaker 14: and forgive us for our sins. But he was also buried,

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Speaker 14: and according to the scriptures, he rose again three days

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Speaker 14: later and he walked upon this earth. He's gone back

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Speaker 14: into heaven. The guys, here's the real kicker, and he's

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Speaker 14: coming back. So the great message for us to think

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Speaker 14: this Christmas season is for God still love the world.

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Speaker 9: That's all of us.

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Speaker 14: Anyone listening to this that he gave. There's the gift

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Speaker 14: his only begotten son, and that whoever that's all, races,

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Speaker 14: nations and peoples, whoever believes in him shall not perish,

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Speaker 14: but have everlasting life. And he didn't send him to

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Speaker 14: condemn us, but to save us. And it's all free

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Speaker 14: of charge, guys. So remember as we close, the true

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Speaker 14: value of a gift is what one gives gives up

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Speaker 14: to give it. So that tells me that you hammer you, Nigel,

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Speaker 14: and anyone listening to this, if they believe you, must

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Speaker 14: be pretty special, my friend. Don't forget that. That's why

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Speaker 14: we say, Mary Christmas, be blessed and have a prosperous

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Speaker 14: New Year.

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Speaker 2: We love you, guys, right, love you, buddy, been so

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Speaker 2: good to our show and I am honored to consider

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Speaker 2: you a friend here. God bless you your family, the

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Speaker 2: officers that you're overseeing right now, and I look forward

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Speaker 2: to more conversations in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, hey, we love you.

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Speaker 14: Nothing you can do about it, be blessed.

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Speaker 15: Ever presents It depends upon what the meaning of the

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Speaker 15: word is.

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Speaker 2: Is this anything alright? And roll rat bye?

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Speaker 3: with over one million dollars in unclaimed property every single week. Fast,

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Speaker 3: easy and free to search at Indiana Unclaimed dot gov.

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Speaker 4: Is this anything?

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Speaker 2: There's a website that did the research breaking down some

807
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: of the quote dark truths about some of your favorite

808
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: Christmas songs. No, here's a guy talking about White Christmas

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Speaker 2: and do they know It's Christmas? Ah dreaming beautiful?

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Speaker 16: Why Despite the bing Crosby performance having the record as

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Speaker 16: the world's best selling single, Russian American composer Irving Berlin

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Speaker 16: didn't write the piece from a place of holiday cheer.

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Speaker 16: In nineteen twenty eight, Berlin's Sun tragically passed of typhoid

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Speaker 16: fever on Christmas Day, making it a yearly recurrence to

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Speaker 16: visit his son's grave on the day of his death,

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Speaker 16: and writing White Christmas and remembrance of his life.

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Speaker 2: Good Lord, I know the.

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Speaker 16: Critics stating that while do they Know It's Christmas may

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Speaker 16: have generated sympathy and donations, it also pushed a negative

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Speaker 16: stereotype of Africa being a barren, helpless land. The song

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Speaker 16: inadvertently caused a significant ripple effect, losing millions er in

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Speaker 16: African based tourism.

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Speaker 3: Good God, Well, I'm thoroughly depressed after that amazing uplifting

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Speaker 3: speech we got from FOB President Rick Snyder. Now we're

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Speaker 3: talking about calling a bunch of people. Don't they even

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Speaker 3: know it's Christmas? You guys are morons? And then the

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Speaker 3: White Christmas thing where the guy that actually wrote White

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Speaker 3: Christmas was in tribute to his son who died of

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Speaker 3: typhoid fever on Christmas Day. Correct, yep, time to stop

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Speaker 3: listening to Christmas music.

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Speaker 2: I think, my god, Mike Bull watch It's a Wonderful

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Speaker 2: Life next, and get a little death in there too.

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Speaker 2: Nothing like an uplifting suicide movie to make the spirits bright.

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Speaker 4: Good Lord, it's the Hammer and Nigel Show.

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Speaker 3: Minda miss Nigel. That's Chason the Hammer known as the

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Speaker 3: Hammer and Nigel Show Hammer. We have a very special

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Speaker 3: in studio guest.

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Speaker 4: He is the Traffic Beast.

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Speaker 2: Matt Bear joins us and Matt normally right out of

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Speaker 2: the gate, we like to have fun.

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Speaker 4: We'd like to talk about stupid stuff. We'd like to

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00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 4: talk about your love life. We'd like to talk about

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00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 4: all the.

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Speaker 2: Things that you do that we live vicariously through you on.

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Speaker 2: But all week I've been looking forward to this conversation

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Speaker 2: and this takes us into the murder of Rob Reiner

847
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 2: and his wife. Their son, Nick Reiner, is being charged

848
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Speaker 2: with the murders. Now, Nick Reiner has had a history

849
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Speaker 2: of substance abuse, mental illness, lost rep sheet, in and out.

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Speaker 4: Of rehab eighteen times.

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Speaker 2: In front of our show, Alex Berenson put this out

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Speaker 2: on Twitter, quote, eighteen rehabs. Maybe what Nick Reiner really

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00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: needed was one night in jail. Instead, he's going to

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Speaker 2: spend the rest of his life in prison. Coddling addicts

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Speaker 2: only prolongs their misery and the misery they cause. Matt

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Speaker 2: as somebody who has been through rehab for alcohol, take

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Speaker 2: me through your thoughts on that.

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Speaker 13: You know, I got a DWI when I was in

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Speaker 13: my early twenties, and before that I had been busted

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Speaker 13: with an infraction of the law with the possession of

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Speaker 13: marijuana pipe.

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Speaker 17: Actually wasn't the actual weed.

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Speaker 13: And then later in my early twenties, I got this

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Speaker 13: OWI I drank, you know, a large amount of Jack Daniels,

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Speaker 13: and I drove through a string of mailboxes in Fulton County, Indiana,

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Speaker 13: to the north of Indianapolis, and I always thought to myself,

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Speaker 13: and I was thinking at the time that night in

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Speaker 13: the drunk tag, I'm like, you know, man, you know,

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Speaker 13: I'm sobering up and I feel miserable.

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Speaker 17: I'm shameful.

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Speaker 13: I'm so glad that line of mailboxes wasn't a line

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Speaker 13: of kids. You know that it was nine or ten

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Speaker 13: to nine. But these are the thoughts you're thinking, and were.

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Speaker 2: You thinking to yourself from never drinking again.

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Speaker 13: Now I'm thinking to myself, I'm never going to drink again.

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Speaker 13: I'm especially not going to drink and drive again. That

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Speaker 13: is never ever going to happen. I mean, this is

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Speaker 13: the drunk tag, this is your It's not even a cot,

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Speaker 13: it's just like a really two inch thin mattress that

880
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 13: you're laying on, and you feel miserable because you're.

881
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 17: Gonna have to face your loved ones. You're gonna have to.

882
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 2: Face the people.

883
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 13: They're gonna be like, how we're responsible for you to drink,

884
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 13: Jack Daniels and to go drive a car. You're gonna

885
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,919
Speaker 13: be like, I know, I got drunk that night after

886
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 13: you got out. Yeah, after I got out. Oh wow,

887
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 13: and I got drunk that night. Now part of my

888
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 13: play deal for this because I had some baggage with me.

889
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 17: You know, you start I go low.

890
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 13: It's the art of the deal, except that with the

891
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 13: law with crime, and I made a play deal. They

892
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 13: said you either get like an exorbit amount of community

893
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 13: service hours or you go to jail for a weekend.

894
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 13: So I chose to go to jail for a weekend. Okay,

895
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 13: all right, And this was on New Year I slept

896
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 13: on the floor, you know. But it was just a weekend.

897
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 2: Guys. Yeah, you know, in a weekend, and then after

898
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 2: that you're allowed to drink again.

899
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 13: They were allowed to drink again, except in my case,

900
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 13: I was getting drug tested, okay every single month. Alcohol

901
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 13: doesn't stay in the system as marijuana. Marijuana, No, my thing.

902
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 13: Got smoking marijuana. Obviously, I got caught with it, but

903
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 13: it was never my thing. It made me paranoid. I

904
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 13: still did a lot of it, just because it was there.

905
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 13: I do the weekend in jail, and I get out

906
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 13: and there's snow on the ground. I came in a

907
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 13: New Year's Day. Is when I had to report. It

908
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 13: was the craziest thing. And I get out of jail,

909
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 13: and I feel like a million bucks.

910
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 17: I got drunk that night.

911
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 3: Oh you felt Wait, you got out of jail, but

912
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: you felt like a million bucks, or you just elated

913
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 3: to be out of.

914
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 17: Jail, red to be out of jail.

915
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: Oh yes, and physically feel because you hadn't had to

916
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: drink in two days.

917
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely okay. And there wasn't any feeling of should

918
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: I do this, any remorse for why you were in

919
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 2: jail to begin with.

920
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 13: There was remorse. There very much was the remorse and

921
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 13: shame after doing something like that. My feelings of the

922
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 13: calamity I actually could have caused were sincere. They really were.

923
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 13: I'm in my early twenties. I'm gonna have have a

924
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 13: drink that night. That is my culture, that's what I

925
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 13: want to do. And at the time I didn't know

926
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 13: I was an alcalolic. I laughed at such a notion,

927
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 13: but I was already an alcolo.

928
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I touch it. Yeah.

929
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 13: My point being, when it comes to jail is a deterrent.

930
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 13: I don't believe it works just because it is up

931
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 13: to us. And in the case of Nick Reiner, we

932
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 13: find out he was diagnosed with schizophrenia before the murders.

933
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 2: And I mean, it could have been a drug mix up.

934
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Speaker 17: It could have been bad script is what they're saying.

935
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Speaker 12: It was.

936
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Speaker 3: On another level, this isn't just It wasn't just some

937
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 3: you know, random thing that happened at once.

938
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Speaker 17: Don't get me wrong.

939
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 13: This is I understand the other perspective for me, jail

940
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 13: is not a deterrent. If I'm going to go steal

941
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 13: something so I can go get codeine or I say

942
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 13: you can get oxy cotton, well you better have your

943
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 13: stuff nailed to the ground.

944
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 17: I'm gonna get that money. I'm gonna get to that

945
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 17: pawn job. I'm gonna make my money, and I'm going

946
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 17: to go get high.

947
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 2: I think the key number here, though, Matt is eighteen

948
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 2: eighteen times this guy went to rehab. Like, at what

949
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,479
Speaker 2: point do you say, Okay, this isn't working. And does

950
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: the type of rehab facility matter? Because let's be honest,

951
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 2: the type of rehab facility that the Sun of Hollywood

952
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: Royalty goes to is probably the best hotel that any

953
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: one of us have ever stayed in.

954
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 3: And they make a lot of money. They need customers,

955
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 3: which maybe they need repeat customers, right, and maybe some

956
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 3: of it's designed that way.

957
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: I don't know.

958
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 13: Business is a business. I'm a capitalist too, but that's

959
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 13: exactly what it is. And the rehabilitation business I reached

960
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 13: out to my friend at Harvard Light. She's a manager

961
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 13: over at Harbor Light, and I said, what is it

962
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 13: kind of costs? You know, Harbor Light's over on TIB's

963
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 13: Avenue here in Indianapolis. They do the detox, the residency,

964
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 13: post residency, just everything you need mental health is at

965
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 13: Harbor Light with the Salvation Army on Tibbs.

966
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 17: And I was talking to her and I said, Okay,

967
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:55,840
Speaker 17: tell me give you a ballpark.

968
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 13: If I go to Harbor Light to add say, in

969
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 13: the extended care program, you're actually moving to some of

970
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 13: their housing afterwards.

971
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 17: What is that a month? And she said five hundred.

972
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 17: I go to Malibu over in California. How much is that?

973
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 13: She said, hundreds of thousands of yef Yeah, in Malibu

974
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 13: is just an example. Okay, if I'm a sponsor and

975
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 13: I'm talking to a sponsor somebody that I want to

976
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 13: get better, I want to help them with the disease

977
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 13: of addiction, and they start telling me asking me how

978
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 13: the food is and whatever rehab facility they're.

979
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 18: Going to go to, I'm not going to want to

980
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 18: hear that, right. I don't want to hear about if

981
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 18: you're canoeing or playing Frisbee golf. I want you to

982
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,320
Speaker 18: say I'm ready. I want you to say those magic words.

983
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 18: I want you to be ready for recovery. And I

984
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 18: don't give a damn if you can throw a whiffle

985
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 18: ball at the rehab center.

986
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 2: Because with Alex Berenson's comment like the number was the

987
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: thing that stood out to me because I'm a guy,

988
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 2: and I relate this to other.

989
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 4: Things in my life.

990
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: If something habitually is not working, it's time to try

991
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: something different.

992
00:52:58,760 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 8: Right.

993
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 2: If I keep betting on the Chicago Cubs and they

994
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: keep losing, maybe I should try betting on somebody else.

995
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: But what else is there?

996
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 17: It's a good question, can put them back in jail.

997
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 13: But jail there's drugs, a lot of dr I thought

998
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 13: there's a lot of Yeah. Remember back in September and

999
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 13: Marion County jailer got busted because he was smuggling and

1000
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 13: weed and smuggling in a.

1001
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 17: Box, said and he got clicked down in Marya County.

1002
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: Question was rehab. There's nothing else? I mean, you have

1003
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: to want to get better. I guess could anything have

1004
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 2: helped Nick anything? I mean, I know you didn't know him.

1005
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 17: It never met the no no, no, It's a totally

1006
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 17: fair question. I love the question.

1007
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 8: Nick.

1008
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 13: It sounds like was a really disturbed individual. This just

1009
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 13: sounds like, I mean, you know, I'm not obviously, like

1010
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 13: we just mentioned, I'm not a doctor medical professional, but

1011
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 13: he sounds like a really disturbed individual.

1012
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 17: Eighteen times in rehab.

1013
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 13: That tells me when I was in rehab, man, I

1014
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 13: wanted to get out of rehab. Now, I loved my

1015
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 13: rehab experiences. I really wanted to get better. I kept

1016
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 13: making that decision over and over again. I'm ready, I

1017
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 13: want to get better, I want that sober life, and

1018
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 13: then I go drink again because I'm a freaking alcoholic.

1019
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 2: How many times, man, I.

1020
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 13: Detoxed over a half dozen times? Medically professional, you always

1021
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 13: detoc professionally. That's just something that I always say, I

1022
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 13: really believe in that. But I did it from home

1023
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 13: to a couple of times too, so you got to

1024
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 13: count that with Nick Reiner there, it sounds like there

1025
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 13: are just mental issues, and it's what we talk about

1026
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 13: and recover.

1027
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 17: If you have the ability.

1028
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 13: If you have the ability, you have enough left in

1029
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 13: you to be able to say I'm ready, to be

1030
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 13: able to accept the sober life and go and do it.

1031
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 13: That's what you have to do. So you can send

1032
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 13: me to rehab eighteen times. You can send me to

1033
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 13: jail for a week and six months, six years until

1034
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 13: I say I want to be sober.

1035
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 17: It's just not going to happen.

1036
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 13: And that's why I don't believe jails a deterred when

1037
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 13: it comes to recovery. The addict is still going to

1038
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 13: be the alcoholic. Me is still going to be the alcoholic.

1039
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 13: And the God of your understanding and a recovery group

1040
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 13: and new brothers and sisters is the only why Tuesday sober.

1041
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 2: In my opinion, your honesty and your courage to come

1042
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 2: in here does not go unnoticed. Like the amount of

1043
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 2: comments on our YouTube show Man from Craig to Jim

1044
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 2: to Timothy to Vic to Chris, all singing your praises

1045
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: about having the cajones to come in here and talk

1046
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: about these things. You really do resonate with so many people.

1047
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 2: And I hope you know that well.

1048
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 17: I appreciate you guys saying so.

1049
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 13: And I didn't get here by myself, by any good

1050
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,400
Speaker 13: decision I've ever made in my life.

1051
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 17: Oh, I mean, I got.

1052
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 3: By the way I think. If you're allowed to have

1053
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 3: your vate pen in the studio. I think Hammer and

1054
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 3: I should have at least allowed to have beer sample Friday.

1055
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 17: First, this is from my asthma. This is there's none

1056
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 17: in this, just.

1057
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 3: A couple of minutes left here wondering what you think

1058
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 3: about Like you can get people all the rehab in

1059
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 3: the world, but like you're mentally ill, you can't, Like

1060
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 3: if you have dementia, a doctor is legally obligated to

1061
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 3: help you, but you can't arrest somebody. You can't be

1062
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 3: legally forced to get mental help. And I'm wondering what

1063
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: you think about asylums and things like that. Man, And

1064
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about Central State. That's something that was

1065
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 3: effed up man.

1066
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 2: Right, you know, But something else, Nick Reiner, like no

1067
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: rehab facility or even jail state was probably going to

1068
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 2: help that guy. He needed mental help, but you can't

1069
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: force him to go to one of these places.

1070
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 13: Your thoughts, So the question being again, say, in this case,

1071
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 13: his dad could have put his name on a dotted

1072
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:53,280
Speaker 13: line and committed him involuntarily. Yes, Nick Reiner, Okay, it's

1073
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 13: a tough one for me because I seconds I believe

1074
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 13: individual freedom and I assure us he'll know if people

1075
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 13: want to institutionalize me. A couple of times maybe, and

1076
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 13: it's a hard one say he moved that to the

1077
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 13: alcohologan atic. Can you put the alcoholog and addict in

1078
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 13: in an institution or rehab without their will without wanting

1079
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 13: to do that? And again it comes down to it's

1080
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 13: up to us, and we have to make that decision.

1081
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 13: If somebody's mentally ill, you want them to get the

1082
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 13: best help they possibly can. And if they're not cognitive,

1083
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 13: if they can't make that kind of decision, then maybe

1084
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 13: we do need to make it for them. But it's

1085
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 13: such a it's such an individual balance here. It just

1086
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 13: depends on the individual. Again, we have to have the

1087
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 13: capacity to be capacity to be the ones that say

1088
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 13: I'm ready and to make that decision for ourselves.

1089
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 17: And you can't make that decision for yourself.

1090
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 13: It's just a it's a tragic and heartbreaking situation that

1091
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 13: they're not able to do that.

1092
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 4: Real quick. Where can we find the podcast?

1093
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 17: It's supporting sobriety podcast.

1094
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Speaker 13: My partner mornigankor right, Hendrick and I do a podcast

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Speaker 13: being Recovered Addicts and Me and Alcohol that guy. We

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Speaker 13: do it for the caregiver of the people we tormented.

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Speaker 13: You can find it on any major podcast provider. We'd

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Speaker 13: love to have you tape it again this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Blessed to do so.

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Speaker 4: Matt. Merry Christmas to you, to your family. God bless you, Buddy,

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00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 4: Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 13: Thank you for letting me on your number one Ready

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Speaker 13: radio show, all three of you, all year long.

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Speaker 17: I'm so blessed.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Hammer and Nigel.

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Speaker 13: Do you believe these characters are weirdos?

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00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 3: The Hammer on the Epstein files supposed to be released

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00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 3: today starting to slowly be released now. I'm on the

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00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: Dreads report, big picture of Donald Trump on the cover,

1110
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 3: of course, and then full read it. Underneath his picture

1111
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 3: it says no full release delay delay delay. They're saying

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Speaker 3: they're still making sure that the identities of the Epstein's

1113
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 3: hundreds of victims were redacted from the records. They're still

1114
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 3: doing this. You would think that would have been take

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00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 3: care of. I don't know, decades ago, years ago, however.

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00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: Or certainly since Pam Bondy and company said that this

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00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: was something that was important to them. But there is

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00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: some things being released right. So long story short today

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Speaker 2: with the deadline of that bill. I guess that Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump signed saying, hey, it's Epstein Transparency Day. Got to

1121
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 2: have it all by the nineteenth. Well, they're not going

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00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 2: to have it all. They're still redacting a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: But the things that we do have I've talked about

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00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 2: this one is a picture of Bill Clinton swimming in

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Speaker 2: a pool with Gallaine Maxwell, the Madam, if you will,

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00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 2: of Epstein Island, and what is believed to be one

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00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 2: of the victims whose face is blurred. There's another photo

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Speaker 2: that's been dropped. It shows Bill Clinton and Mick Jagger

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Speaker 2: at some sort of dinner which appears to be on

1130
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Speaker 2: Epstein Island, next to Jeffrey Epstein.

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01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 3: About a picture of Mick Jagger at dinner with Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 2: Right, And we've been saying this for a long time.

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01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 2: Pictures can be taken out of context. Had Diddy actually

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01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: agreed to take the photo that you asked him to nudge,

1135
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 2: like a number of years ago at that red carpet,

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01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: and let's say you've got a picture with Diddy, he Diddy, Diddy,

1137
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 2: can I get a pick? That does not mean that

1138
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: you were going to lub up parties and doing horrible

1139
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 2: things to Justin Bieber allegedly exactly. I went to the

1140
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 2: Colts super Bowl party in Florida. It was hosted by Subway.

1141
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 2: Jared Fogel was there. I have a picture with Jared

1142
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: Fogel somewhere, does not mean I.

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Speaker 4: Was having relations with underage girls.

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01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: Good thing. So again, I don't care who's having dinner

1145
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 2: with Epstein. I don't care who's in his swimming pool.

1146
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 2: I care who's having sex with underage kids. That's what

1147
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 2: I care about. And I got to be with you.

1148
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: And if this makes me the bad guy, I'm sorry.

1149
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: I'm getting a little worn out by these quote unquote

1150
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: survivors and victims doing these media tours but not outing

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01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 2: the people who were doing the heinous acts. Like if

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01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 2: you want to write a book, if you want to

1153
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 2: do a TV interview, that's fine, fair, but you know

1154
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 2: who was having these heinous acts on the island, because

1155
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: you were allegedly there.

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01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 4: Name the names.

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01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 2: We can find you security. I'm sure there's somebody that'd

1158
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 2: be more than happy to take you on as a

1159
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 2: client to their security company to make sure you'll be okay.

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Speaker 2: If you name the names, let's get to it. I

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01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 2: don't care about pictures. Wow, So and so this celebrity

1162
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 2: took a selfie with Jeffrey Epstein.

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01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein was a rich dude who had a.

1164
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: Lot of rich friends. He took a lot of pictures.

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01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 2: I want to know who was having sex with underage kids?

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Speaker 2: And that's it.

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01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 3: And continue to hang out with those same people even

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01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 3: after he was convicted first time of similar charges and

1169
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 3: got a sweetheart plea deal.

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Speaker 2: Correct, and Lincoln Lyon, James Comy's daughter, who was the

1171
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: federal prosecutor against Gallaine Maxwell, you sealed up the quote

1172
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: unquote client list and all the information. One I doubt

1173
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 2: there was even a client list that exists, but she

1174
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 2: sealed up all the information as the prosecutor. That kind

1175
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: of thing rubs me the wrong way. So and tell

1176
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 2: these Epstein files. Tell us who was having sex with kids?

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Speaker 2: I don't care. I do not care about the pictures.

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Speaker 2: I do not care who had dinner. I don't care

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Speaker 2: who went to concerts, who was on a plane. Did

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Speaker 2: they have sex with kids?

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01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 4: That's it. That's the only thing we care about.

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01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 2: What brings us to great moments and making fun of

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01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 2: Epstein history, Nige. So somebody went to a Walmart and

1184
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 2: I believe this was in the state of Arkansas, could

1185
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: be the birthplace of Walmart.

1186
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 4: And they were acting like.

1187
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 2: They had a miss missing child and the name of

1188
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 2: the missing child was Clinton killed Epstein. Clinton killed Epstein,

1189
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Speaker 2: and they paged it over the pa.

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Speaker 13: Will Clinton killed gustinment.

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Speaker 4: Kill to meet.

1192
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Speaker 2: She said it. She said it twice. Clinton Killed Epstein.

1193
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 2: Great moments and making fun of Epstein history. Nige out

1194
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 2: in Arizona. The big Turning Point USA America Fest is underway.

1195
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 2: This is obviously the first year they've done this without

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirr, the face the founder of Turning Point USA,

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Speaker 2: Erica kirk his widow, spoke on stage on night one

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Speaker 2: and she endorsed JD Vance for twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 19: For both twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight. We're

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Speaker 19: investing in states and not just in races. So what

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Speaker 19: I mean by that is we are building the Red

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Speaker 19: Wall Arizona, Nevada, New Hampshire.

1203
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Speaker 4: That's going to be very important to us.

1204
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Speaker 19: We're going to ensure that President Trump has Congress for

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01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 19: all four years. We are going to get my husband's

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Speaker 19: friend JD Vance yip elected for forty.

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Speaker 2: Eight, and the most resounding.

1208
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Speaker 4: Went fastball.

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Speaker 3: Goes turning points deciding, right, who's going to be the

1210
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 3: Ted Cruz have a seat Republican front runner?

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Speaker 2: Is that right? There's no primary here, Lion, Ted have

1212
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 2: a seat. She also said something pretty amazing, by the way, that.

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Speaker 3: Since Charlie Kirk's assassination that Turning Point chapters had been

1214
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 3: popping up by the dozens daily on college campus.

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01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 2: It's like fifty a day. And it's not hard to

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01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 2: get one officially, because my sons looked into doing it

1217
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 2: at the University of Indianapolis. But I think he's the

1218
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 2: only conservative on campus, so there would be nobody else

1219
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 2: in the organization. But it's not easy, Like there's a

1220
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Speaker 2: financial burden that goes along with this. Now, I think

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01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 2: the headline, maybe even more so that Erica Kirk at

1222
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 2: Night one, was how much Ben Shapiro went up there

1223
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 2: and just crapped on other conservative commentators, ripped on Megan Kelly,

1224
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 2: and really ripped on Tucker Carlson.

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01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 20: If you host, hey, hilar apologist, Nazi loving anti American

1226
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 20: piece of refuse like Nick Flentes. You know the Nick

1227
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Speaker 20: Flentez who said that the vice president of the United

1228
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 20: States is a quote FAA race Trader married to a jeet.

1229
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 20: The person who said that Charlie Kirk was a quote

1230
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 20: retarded idiot. The person who said, and pardon my language here,

1231
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Speaker 20: it's his quote that he quotes took turning Point USA

1232
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 20: and fooked it. And that's why it's filled with Groper's.

1233
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 20: If you have that person on your show and you

1234
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 20: proceed to glaze him, you ought to own it. There

1235
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 20: is a reason that Charlie Kirk despised at Nick fuentt

1236
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 20: As and indeed even chied into Neshkusuza.

1237
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 4: For debating him.

1238
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 20: He knew that Nick Flentes is an evil troll and

1239
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 20: that building him up is an act of moral imbecility.

1240
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,959
Speaker 20: And that is precisely what Tucker Carlson did. He built

1241
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 20: Nick Fuentes up, and you ought to take responsibility for that,

1242
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 20: just as he ought to take responsibility for glazing pornographer

1243
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 20: and alleged sex trafficker Andrew Tates, or for mainstreaming fake

1244
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 20: historian and pseudo Nazi apologist Darryl Cooper as America's best

1245
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 20: and most honest popular historian.

1246
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean he just goes on.

1247
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 2: Other conservative commentators, which again, is this the best use

1248
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 2: of time at night one at turning point in USA's

1249
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 2: America Fest. Yeah, infighting, right, Like I listened to that

1250
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 2: Nick Flints interview with Tucker. I don't think he was

1251
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 2: building him up. He was just asking questions.

1252
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 3: So basically, in other words, I don't have a problem

1253
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 3: with Tucker interviewing that guy.

1254
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 2: I really don't know much about him. I don't know

1255
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 2: Nick Flint is.

1256
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 3: Is just kind of a agitator, and I don't really

1257
01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 3: have a problem with it.

1258
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 2: But Ben Shapiro does apparently. But is that the best

1259
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 2: use of Ben's time? It's night one of the big

1260
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 2: America Fest, right, and you're up there, You're one of

1261
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: the Marquis speakers, and all it is is just you

1262
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 2: crapping on other people, Like.

1263
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 4: Is that going to help in midterms? And anyway? Is

1264
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 4: that going to help in midterms?

1265
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 2: No? No, But here's what's interesting, Nige. After Ben Shapiro

1266
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: did that a little bit later on guess who comes

1267
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 2: to the stage Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 21: I just got here and I feel like I missed

1269
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 21: the first part of the program.

1270
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 2: Hope I didn't miss anything meaningful.

1271
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 4: But I just want to say I don't think I did. No,

1272
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 4: I'm just getting I watched it.

1273
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 21: I laughed the whole like Red Guard cultural revolution thing

1274
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 21: that we so hated and feared on the left, that

1275
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 21: we did everything we could to usher in a new time.

1276
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 4: Where you could have an actual debate. I mean, this

1277
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 4: kind of was the whole point of.

1278
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 21: Charlie Kirk's public life, and I think that.

1279
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 4: I think that he died for it.

1280
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Speaker 2: I really believe that.

1281
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 21: But I really thought that the impulse to deep platform

1282
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 21: people or even to use the word platform as a verb,

1283
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 21: which it's not. I kind of thought we'd reach the

1284
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 21: end of that, and as far as I'm concerned, we have.

1285
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:54,839
Speaker 2: And I'm not going to play by those rules.

1286
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 4: I'm not going to engage in that.

1287
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 21: Someone doesn't like what I think, fine with me, as

1288
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 21: long as I get you express it.

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01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1290
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 3: Is it the best use of the time? Probably not?

1291
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 3: But is it interesting?

1292
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1293
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 2: Right, I think it's kind of interesting. Ben Shapiro went

1294
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 2: up there and cut a WWE promo and then Tucker

1295
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: Carlson comes up and it's.

1296
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, whatever, kid, do what you want.

1297
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 2: All right, we got time for one more story nightge

1298
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you choose your own adventure. Do you

1299
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 2: want to hear a woman who's very upset that EBT

1300
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 2: cuts maybe coming and she won't be able to get

1301
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 2: her junk food anymore? Or do you want to hear

1302
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: Gary Busey doing an impression of a goose?

1303
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 12: Uh?

1304
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Beaucy hit me with goose?

1305
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 7: Hey, it's Gary Busey and I have got a great

1306
01:09:52,000 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 7: Christians present for you. Listen to this. That's what a

1307
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 7: goose sounds like. Where they're flying, They're letting you know

1308
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 7: they're up there.

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Speaker 6: Ha ha.

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Speaker 7: You got a bunch of geese together, you're hawking in

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Speaker 7: the air.

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Speaker 2: I think I picked the right one.

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Speaker 4: I think you picked the right one. I think you

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Speaker 4: picked the right one.

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Speaker 3: I've seen it, and as strange as that audio is,

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01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 3: you should actually see the footage of it.

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Speaker 2: Wow. He's been pretty active on social media lately, like

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Speaker 2: he's sang a Christmas song which actually sounded good, and

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Speaker 2: he followed that up but doing a goose impression?

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Speaker 11: Are you really are everything's gonna be okay?

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Speaker 4: Are you okay? Yeah? I'm fine.

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Speaker 17: I'm pretty freaking far from okay.

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Speaker 14: Are you okay?

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Speaker 9: With this?

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Speaker 3: to the Philly Flyers NHL team play by play announcer

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Speaker 3: hot Mike moment he thought he was.

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Speaker 2: Off the air.

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Speaker 3: He thought he went to break, made a comment about

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Speaker 3: the the voluptuous and lovely ring announcer.

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Speaker 2: Who was he talking about. I'm the hype girl that's

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01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: at the hockey matches, like I've done that for the

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01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 2: indie fuel before. You're on the mic and you're trying

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01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 2: to fire up the fans. I guess there was a

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01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 2: rather attractive woman. Yes, that was doing it for the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Sabers, because the Flyers, I believe, were on the

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Speaker 2: road at Buffalo. Here's the audio.

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Speaker 22: Sometimes the Flyers get a sense of urgency when they're

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01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 22: playing from behind.

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Speaker 2: Now they're going to take the TV time out. We'll

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Speaker 2: take it as well.

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Speaker 22: Seven gone in the third its three two Buffalo in

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Speaker 22: the Philadelphia Flyers broadcast network.

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Speaker 2: He's on the air. Wait for it, Pump it, up,

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Speaker 2: it up, it up up while you're down there? Would

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Speaker 2: you mind me?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 12: Oh, oh, we're still on the air, Tim, We're not

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Speaker 12: are we?

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Speaker 2: I think we're still on the air. Tim, Are you

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Speaker 2: okay with this?

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Speaker 4: No? No, the mic is always hot.

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Speaker 2: Hey, well you're down there, why don't you me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, And that went over.

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Speaker 2: The air, and the poor producer kid reminded me, if

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Speaker 2: you've seen the movie Major League Manty, not Harry Doyle,

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Speaker 2: but the other guy, you.

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Speaker 4: Can't say GD on the air. Don't worry, nobody's listening anyway.

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Speaker 2: Well, I like it.

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Speaker 3: He just started laughing after that, Tim, we're still in

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Speaker 3: the air. Yeah right, are you serious?

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Speaker 2: But like, even if you were off the air, the

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Speaker 2: people back at the studio can hear that.

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Speaker 4: And man, you gotta be careful.

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Speaker 2: If you're working for a major professional sports franchise, you

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01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 2: gotta be careful. Man, did you have the you told

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Speaker 2: me the punishment so far? So the Philadelphia Flyers put

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Speaker 2: out a statement and they basically said, he's going to

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Speaker 2: be suspended for two days while we investigate.

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Speaker 4: Oh, while we investigate, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't see him coming back from that one. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I don't think he deserves to be fired,

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Speaker 2: but I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty egregious.

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Speaker 2: While you're down there, A friend of mine who does

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01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: play by play at a pretty high level, texted me,

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01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 2: as a play by play guy, I do the da

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Speaker 2: da da da da thing every single break, but I've

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Speaker 2: never asked someone to do that to me.

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Speaker 3: It's the Hammer in Nigel Show. My name is Nigel.

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Speaker 3: Jason Hammer is here. Also on the hotline, Breitbart's White

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Speaker 3: House correspondent Nick gilbertson it's kind of cool to hear

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Speaker 3: the president to call your name during those press conferences sometimes, Nick,

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Speaker 3: welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: How are you.

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Speaker 9: I'm doing great now.

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Speaker 8: I feel great to be here, and yet it's very

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Speaker 8: cool to have my name called out by the president.

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Speaker 3: So people are still talking about his big speech Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was clear and concise and quick. It

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Speaker 3: almost sounded like a twenty twenty six midterm campaign speech.

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Speaker 3: Before we get to the speech, What was the median

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Speaker 3: narrative coming into that speech versus what we actually heard

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Speaker 3: the president speak about?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think well the narrative.

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Speaker 8: You know, a lot of networks and such were kind

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01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 8: of expecting maybe something regarding Venezuela, and you know, of

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01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 8: course that's not at all what the President talked about.

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Speaker 9: The President went in and kind of talked about.

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Speaker 8: You know, the mess he inherited and where you know,

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Speaker 8: things are going, whether it be in terms of immigration

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Speaker 8: or the economy, and the progress.

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Speaker 9: He's kind of made.

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Speaker 8: And I think that was a you know, quite a

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Speaker 8: solid strategy by the President to go in there and

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Speaker 8: kind of make his case about all this.

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Speaker 3: Well, another host on our station made a great point

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Speaker 3: that Donald Trump, it truly is a master manipulator of

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Speaker 3: the corporate legacy media, is he not.

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Speaker 8: No, he's a genius when he comes when it comes

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Speaker 8: to it, he runs circles around all of them.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, and he gets it right.

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Speaker 8: He's an entertainer and that's where he got to start,

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01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 8: was on you know, network television to get the number

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Speaker 8: one rated and the Apprentice.

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Speaker 9: So he gets it.

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Speaker 8: He knows how these executives operate, he knows, you know,

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Speaker 8: what draws an audience.

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Speaker 9: He knows how to work them all too. So absolutely I.

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Speaker 3: Agree with that, right, Bart White House correspondent Gilbertson here

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Speaker 3: on the Ham of Nigel Show. So your overall analysis

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Speaker 3: of his eighteen minute speech on Wednesday. What did we

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Speaker 3: learn and was there anything that you weren't expecting that

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Speaker 3: happened that made you say, oh wow, I didn't see

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Speaker 3: that one coming.

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Speaker 8: I think for me, he went in there with the

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Speaker 8: mission of, you know, explaining it and showing that, look,

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Speaker 8: I inherited a mess.

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Speaker 9: I think that's the first thing he's said, and I'm

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Speaker 9: fixing it. And I think there was.

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Speaker 8: A giant focus on the economy. And that's so quick.

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Speaker 8: You know, we have such a short term memory. We

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Speaker 8: forget the damage that Biden did to this country and

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Speaker 8: the policies that Biden and a Democrat House and the

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Speaker 8: Democrats Senate at least the first two years imposed on

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Speaker 8: this country with their masses spending and all these different things,

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Speaker 8: and opening the border wide open.

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Speaker 9: So you know, President Trump.

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Speaker 8: He went out and highlighted that through Biden's term, the

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Speaker 8: typical worker lost about three thousand dollars in wages, and

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Speaker 8: you know, and well, essentially Biden oversaw a wage decrease

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Speaker 8: and a massive price increase. We're seeing the inverse of

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Speaker 8: that under President Trump. But I think that there was

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Speaker 8: so much damage done under Biden, and time takes time,

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Speaker 8: you know, the President has certainly stopped the bleeding and

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Speaker 8: is turning things out the other direction.

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Speaker 9: But again it's taking some time.

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Speaker 8: But so the typical worker under Trump, whereas they lost

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Speaker 8: three thousand dollars in wages under Biden, they're up over one.

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Speaker 9: Thousand dollars in wages.

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Speaker 8: And blue collar workers specifically, you know, miners are up

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Speaker 8: thirty three hundred wages, construction workers are up eighteen hundred wages.

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Speaker 8: Factory workers are up thirteen hundred dollars in wages under Trump.

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Speaker 8: So that's one thing.

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Speaker 9: And then you know, again Biden sent up.

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Speaker 8: We got you know, inflation unseen since the harder administration, right,

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Speaker 8: you know, forty five, forty eight years. And yeah, so

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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, hotel prices were up thirty seven

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Speaker 8: percent under Biden. Under Trump so far, you know, just

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Speaker 8: in ten months, they're down five point one percent. New

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Speaker 8: and used cars and part of this was some of

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Speaker 8: those cafas standards, you know, an admission standards, and the

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Speaker 8: push to electric vehicles that Biden was literally forcing on

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Speaker 8: the private sector and these auto companies. We saw a

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Speaker 8: thirty eight percent increase in car prices. Trump's over overseen

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Speaker 8: a five percent decrease or rather a twenty two percent

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Speaker 8: increase in car prices under Biden, Trump's overseeing a half

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Speaker 8: a percent decrease. You know, gasolene up big under Biden,

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Speaker 8: dropping under Trump. Airfare, same story sports tickets, drug prices too.

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Speaker 8: And and the thing about drug prices to Nigel, I

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Speaker 8: would say they're down half a percent such I've taken office,

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Speaker 8: But in the past couple of months he's cut deals

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Speaker 8: with five major drug companies here, okay, and these are

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Speaker 8: all going to go into effect in January through like

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Speaker 8: the Trump New Trump our X website coming out, So

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Speaker 8: you know.

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Speaker 9: Whether it be like a drug like wake Goo viero osmpic.

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Speaker 8: Right, they're going to drop down to three hundred and

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Speaker 8: fifty dollars a month, and I know oz empic right

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Speaker 8: now costs one thousand dollars a month, and.

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Speaker 9: That's going to be across a range of drugs.

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Speaker 8: So I think President Trump went out made his case

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Speaker 8: about you know, how I didn't essentially wreck the economy

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Speaker 8: and other staffs of America and he inherited a mess

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Speaker 8: and he's working to straighten it out right now.

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Speaker 3: I thought, I mean, I was genius him talking about

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Speaker 3: how positive the economy is. He knew inflation. He knew

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Speaker 3: the news about the inflation numbers coming out the next

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Speaker 3: day was going to happen, didn't he?

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Speaker 9: Oh? Absolutely, yeah, I think two point seven percent.

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Speaker 2: Yes, a great. Hey, let me ask you, let me

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Speaker 2: switch gears.

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Speaker 3: Here's just a little We're speaking with Breitbart's White House

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Speaker 3: correspondent Nick Gilbertson. You spend a lot of time around

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Speaker 3: the president. Again, I've heard him call on you during

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Speaker 3: press conferences. How is he physically?

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Speaker 2: Because I was just watching CNN and the same goofy

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Speaker 2: doctor that said Joe Biden was fine is now saying

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Speaker 2: Trump is not fit for office?

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Speaker 3: How is he physically? How is he mentally? What have

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Speaker 3: you noticed being in the same room with him?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the President is great physically and mentally every time

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Speaker 8: I see him. And it's kind of amazing this willful

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Speaker 8: ignorance that all of the establishment.

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Speaker 9: Media took up under Biden.

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Speaker 8: You know, see no evile, hear no evil, kind of

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Speaker 8: just bury their heads in the sand when the guy's

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Speaker 8: falling downstairs.

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Speaker 9: I think there was this New York Times reporter too

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Speaker 9: that wrote this big article, like the headline was something like.

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Speaker 8: Biden doing great after falling upstairs and then she writes

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Speaker 8: this story, you know, I think Katie Rogers is her name,

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01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 8: going after Trump, essentially saying he's not as active as

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Speaker 8: he was.

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Speaker 9: In his first term.

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Speaker 8: And the guy literally is running circles twenty four to seven,

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01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 8: you know, almost three hundred and sixty five days a

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Speaker 8: year at this point, just constantly going. He talks to

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Speaker 8: the media essentially every day every He's had nine cabinet meetings,

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Speaker 8: all of them have been fully televised, right, and they

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Speaker 8: go about three hours anywhere from.

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Speaker 9: Two to four hours.

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Speaker 12: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 8: And you know what's insane is Biden had nine cabinet

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Speaker 8: meetings in four years.

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Speaker 9: Comes that nine to ten months, right, So it's really

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Speaker 9: something you know how the left is just is.

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Speaker 8: Trying to go and make this an issue when it's

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01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 8: not even close to It's not an issue at all.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, the Democrats seem pretty confident in

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01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 3: their success for the twenty six mid terms. Do they

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01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 3: have reason to be other than the fact that the

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01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 3: seats tend to flip after a new president elected, you know,

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Speaker 3: this time for the second time.

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Speaker 4: Who do the.

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Speaker 3: Democrats have on their bench for twenty twenty eight. That's

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Speaker 3: something that Alex Vrlow and I talked about a couple

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Speaker 3: of weeks ago. I'm just curious, a do they have

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Speaker 3: reason to be cocky for the twenty six midterms and

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Speaker 3: who was on their bench for twenty eight.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's funny to me because the two leaders of

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01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 8: the Democrat Party in my opinion, can't run for president there.

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01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 8: In my opinion, they're Barack Obama, who's termed out, and

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01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:32,800
Speaker 8: then it's Zarron Mamdani, who can't run because he's not

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Speaker 8: a naturalized citizen.

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Speaker 2: Right yeah in New York. Yeah, yeah, So.

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Speaker 8: They have that major problem going for themselves, and then

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01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 8: you look at the rest of the bench. I don't

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01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 8: know if Middle America wants to vote for California's governor

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01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,719
Speaker 8: and Gavin Newsom and how what you know the track

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01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 8: record he has over there in the Golden State and

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01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 8: kind of nationalize that. I don't think that's you know,

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Speaker 8: I don't think America necessarily has an appetite for that.

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01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,400
Speaker 8: I don't think I don't know if Gretchen Whitmer has

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01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 8: the chops. And I've seen Tom Harris winning polling, and

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01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 8: you know, you also have AOC who's like as.

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01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 9: Far left as you can get.

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Speaker 8: You I really don't think they have a very good bench,

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01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 8: and you know, I think they're trying so hard to

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01:23:13,800 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 8: win the messaging war and saddle these these problems that

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01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 8: Biden inflicted on the country onto Trump and make that

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01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 8: part of Trump's record.

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Speaker 9: And I think that's you know, you saw pushback.

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Speaker 8: From the President on that narrative the other night, and

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01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,599
Speaker 8: you know, Democrats they they did, but they were up

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01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 8: a little bit in the overall congressional ballot, you know,

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01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:37,560
Speaker 8: the generic congressional ballot.

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Speaker 9: And real, real clear.

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01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 8: Politics as are like polls as earlier this month data

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01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 8: five point five percent lead. That's down to two point

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01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:48,799
Speaker 8: seven percent as of you know yesterday, in two weeks,

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01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 8: it's dropped there.

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01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 9: And I think I.

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01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 8: Think the big thing is, you know, the President and

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01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,439
Speaker 8: the Treasury Secretary have kind of like talked about too,

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01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 8: and they've kind of laid down, you know, engineered this

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01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 8: framework here in the first year for some serious economic relief.

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Speaker 8: And I think first you're going to see that in

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01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 8: some of those drug prices that I was just talking

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01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 8: about coming in January, and then you're going to see

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01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 8: it big time in tax season too. I think you know,

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01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,360
Speaker 8: there's been estimates I think the House Ways and Means

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01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 8: Committee posted something almost two hundred billion dollars in net

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01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 8: new tax relief next year that could, you know, increase

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01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 8: tax filers, you know a lot of people's refunds by

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01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 8: one thousand dollars, Secretary Besant said on December tenth. You

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01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 8: know that it could be anywhere from a thousand to

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01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 8: two thousand dollars a household and refunds.

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Speaker 9: So it looks to me.

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Speaker 8: That these are going to be, you know, major factors.

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01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 8: And I think, you know, come that time, we're going

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01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,200
Speaker 8: to have a good idea of where the mid terms

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01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 8: are potentially going to go.

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Speaker 9: And I think, I think, yeah, so this.

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Speaker 8: Forthcoming relief here for Americans is going to be a

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Speaker 8: determinant and how things go in twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Well, Nick, we're speaking with Nick gilbertson Breitbart's White House correspondent.

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01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 3: This will be the last time we speak to anybody

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01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 3: from Breitbart this year twenty twenty five. Looking forward to

1604
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:19,360
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six and having you and your co workers

1605
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 3: back on again for another exciting year. You do amazing work,

1606
01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 3: and I do think it's cool when I hear the

1607
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,759
Speaker 3: President call your name and some of these press conferences.

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01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,679
Speaker 3: I'm going to Nick Gilbert, said Bridbart for of the show,

1609
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 3: been on a million times. So Merry Christmas, Happy New

1610
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 3: Year to you and your staff, and thank you for

1611
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 3: all the hard work that you do over there at

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01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 3: Breitbart dot com.

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01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 8: Nigel, thanks for having us, all of us at Breitbart

1614
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 8: love coming on with you guys, and Merry Christmas, Happy

1615
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:48,879
Speaker 8: New Year to you, Hammer and all of the listeners

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01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 8: as well.

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01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 3: Right on, Nick, Hey, coming up next beer sample Friday.

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01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 3: Don't want to miss it. It's a Hammer Nigel show.

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01:25:56,520 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 2: Good now, fry.

1620
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 4: I got some beers drinking, beers on sale. Come down

1621
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 4: and get you some.

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01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 3: Get you some day by Tops of Furniture and Mattress

1623
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 3: in Columbus. Their year in sale going on right now.

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01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:20,759
Speaker 3: Hurry sale ends very soon. I got it's a Christmas

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01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:24,640
Speaker 3: theme beer. Technically not allowed to have any liquid of

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01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 3: any sort in the studio, but this is a sponsored segment.

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01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 2: We're getting paid for this. Let me. I am going

1628
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 2: to back away from the microphone and just.

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01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 4: Give me the damn beer.

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01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:41,839
Speaker 2: Oh this is festive, very festive. So this is white

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01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 2: Christmas winter warmer. And look at that Bing Crosby is

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01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 2: actually on the can. Naragan sett Brewing Company out of

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01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:58,160
Speaker 2: Rhode Island is the uh. I'll go show the people,

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01:26:58,600 --> 01:27:00,720
Speaker 2: go show the box to the can, and I'm a

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01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 2: crack one away from the microphone and management. If you

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01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 2: want to tell Thompson Furniture that you're willing to give

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01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 2: them their money back, then be my guest.

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01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 4: But I don't think you want to do that.

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01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 2: So we're going to continue Beer Sample Friday in a

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01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 2: safe and respectable way.

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01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:21,640
Speaker 3: Here we go away from the micro away from the microphone,

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01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:23,600
Speaker 3: away from the computers.

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01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 4: Nobody is spilling anything.

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01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 2: That's good.

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01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:28,759
Speaker 4: Damn, that's good.

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01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna set it on the floor in the corner.

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01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 4: I am drinking a beer away from the camera. There's

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01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 4: part of me that just really wants you to just

1649
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 4: spill it.

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01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 2: We are exercising our white privilege, drinking white Christmas beer.

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01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 2: That's right with being freaking Crosby. That's good at times,

1652
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 2: since Being Crosby danced with Danny f and k Bing

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01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 2: Crosby would put up with this tyranny, and neither are we.

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01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 2: And the weekend is underway in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: Now's the Hammer and Idol Show.