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Speaker 1: Good morning, up, you're rainy.

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Speaker 2: Tuesday gets a little bit better, the weather gets a

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Speaker 2: little a little bit better, and maybe you're cruising on

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Speaker 2: into the holiday weekend. But thanks for waking up and

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Speaker 2: spending some of your time with us here at ninety

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Speaker 2: three five one or seven five the Fan along with

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Speaker 2: Mark Dyton spending the hits over there. We've got James

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Speaker 2: Boyd back from Kansas City through Chicago and no problems

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Speaker 2: traveling home yesterday. Everything good, everything good, all right? Kevin Boonen,

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Speaker 2: Kevin Bone. I love Kevin Bone. It's like, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: one o'clock in the afternoon yesterday and I'm bopping downstairs

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Speaker 2: between the fifth floor and the fourth floor, and there's

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Speaker 2: this big conference room with windows on it. You can

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Speaker 2: see right through it when you come down to the

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Speaker 2: fourth floor. And I look over there and I have

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Speaker 2: to double take. It's a guy with no hat on

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Speaker 2: and a beautiful full head of hair, and it's Kevin Bowen,

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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking to myself, why do you wear a

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Speaker 2: hat every day?

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Speaker 3: Kevin?

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Speaker 1: In the wild, you get you get all that.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff about the we grow hair and it looks fantastic,

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Speaker 2: and we never get to see it.

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Speaker 1: I thought, man's that's a good looking do with a

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Speaker 1: good looking head of.

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Speaker 2: Air right there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys aren't on the shower list. You guys

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Speaker 1: aren't on the shower list. We're not important enough, James.

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Speaker 1: It's not that goes. That's how I view you three

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Speaker 1: very shower list. I like you guys, good dudes, But

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Speaker 1: you're just sitting there by yourself over in the corner.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you liked me.

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Speaker 1: I was next some boxes. Yes, during the shanesteke and

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Speaker 1: zoom as James Boyd, I'm sure.

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Speaker 2: Look at I know what that is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, moving buildings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the conference room has become a staging area for

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Speaker 2: all of the equipment that's going to be moved over

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Speaker 2: there as we get ready to move. I hopefully the

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Speaker 2: middle of I keep hearing the middle of next month,

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Speaker 2: but I don't believe it, Kevin. So whenever you ask me, like, hey,

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Speaker 2: when are we supposed to move? I shrugged my shoulders

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Speaker 2: because I just don't believe in. Someone showed me a

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Speaker 2: couple of pictures of the new studios. Quite swanky. Oh,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be nice. Everything's gonna be brand new for everything. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So one of the reasons for the last six months

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Speaker 2: when things break or fall apart in here, that we

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Speaker 2: over at the new place. So just kind of hold

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Speaker 2: everything together, like my chair here with with band aids

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Speaker 2: and bailing wires. They like to say, uh, speak of

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Speaker 2: band aids and bailing wire. That's kind of the story

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Speaker 2: of the entire season for the Indiana Pacers. But I'll

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Speaker 2: say this again, James.

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Speaker 1: A keep coming at you.

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Speaker 2: They don't quit, they don't go away. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't know where we ranked this in the moral

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Speaker 4: victory scale. The Pistons have won what thirteen straight? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they gave the best team in the East, one of

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Speaker 4: the best teams in the NBA, I run for their money.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Should I approach that with Rick Carlisle here in about

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Speaker 4: an hour or do do you think I'll get dunked on?

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Speaker 2: I think that's clear that one thing I'll say is

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Speaker 2: it's clear that this team is not intentional. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it is what it is. Somebody wrote a note to

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Speaker 2: me yesterday and said, you notice how not only do

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Speaker 2: the Pacers have one of the worst records in the

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Speaker 2: NBA right now, but the Nobles Bill Boom, the Nobles

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Speaker 2: Bill Boom can't say that altogether, are having a terrible

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Speaker 2: season too. And to me, it was pretty obvious, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: All the best players at that level for the Boom

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Speaker 2: are probably on the roster for the Pacers every other game,

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Speaker 2: and the Pacers are just trying to recruit warm to

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Speaker 2: finish basketball games. That's why you have two bad records, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, James, I kind of feel the same way you're

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Speaker 1: driving in. I thought the weather was kind of fitting

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Speaker 1: It's one of these weird, like fifty five degree days

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Speaker 1: how I feel about the Pacers result last night. It's like,

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Speaker 1: it sounds a little icky, but guys, the reality is

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Speaker 1: they haven't created many clutch games period lately, right, and

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Speaker 1: they created one last night against a fully healthy Pistons team.

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Speaker 1: We should acknowledge last week, this Piston seem did not

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Speaker 1: look like Kate Cunningham, Lasara Thompson and Tobias Harris. And

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Speaker 1: really it was a night we haven't seen from the

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Speaker 1: others actually stepped up and really Benedict Matherin and Andrew

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Speaker 1: Demhard were two of the more inefficient guys offensively for you,

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Speaker 1: it was a great night for the bench. You could

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Speaker 1: probably say it was Jars Walker's one of his finest

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Speaker 1: nights as a pro. Frankly, and I thought TJ. McConnell's

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Speaker 1: Earl gave you a little bit more. And again that

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Speaker 1: twenty one points for him shot it well. And right now,

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Speaker 1: that's just kind of the reality of where we're at,

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Speaker 1: especially in this stretch. You know, you play Cleveland on Friday,

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Speaker 1: You've got Toronto tomorrow night. For those that pay attention

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Speaker 1: to the Raptors, they're the second best team of the East,

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Speaker 1: second hottest team in the East. They've won twelve to thirteen.

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Speaker 1: So you kind of just shrug the shoulders and wait

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Speaker 1: later this weekend.

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Speaker 2: One other just observation that means nothing to anything other

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Speaker 2: and you see the waste up shot. Jalen Duran looks

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Speaker 2: like he could play tight end in the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: That dude is put together.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's made quite elite this year, and trying to

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Speaker 4: tie it back to the Pacers. You see the jump

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Speaker 4: he's made for the Pistons, You'd like to see a

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Speaker 4: similar jump for Jiss Walker. And it's just one game,

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Speaker 4: but it was very impressive to me. What I like

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Speaker 4: besides his shot making. Of course, when you make shots,

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Speaker 4: everyone's your biggest fan. He was decisive. I thought that

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Speaker 4: he really didn't overthink the game. It was hey, shoot, pass, dribble,

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Speaker 4: and it was done with that point five mentality that

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Speaker 4: the Pacers always kind of preach of playing quick basketball.

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Speaker 6: I know Stephan White actually talks about that as well

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Speaker 2: So I enjoyed.

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Speaker 4: How comfortable and confident he looked out there, and let's

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Speaker 4: hope that that will continue and we'll get a chance

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Speaker 4: to catch up with Carlos later about that and the

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Speaker 2: With Do we need to start having a conversation about

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Speaker 2: Ben Shephard. He just not being to make shots. He's

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Speaker 2: just not being able to make shots. But me, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in twenty three minutes last night he had one defensive rebound,

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Speaker 2: one personal foul, one assist and zero points. Looked like

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Speaker 2: he was an and I like Ben Shephard, and he

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Speaker 2: had some contributions, certainly last year in that big run,

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Speaker 2: but right now he's just kind of running around the court.

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Speaker 1: It looks like, Yeah, I think an issue is a

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Speaker 1: what else are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: That's I agree with that.

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Speaker 1: Like Jaris Walker was struggling in the starting lineup, They've

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Speaker 1: The thing that I thought last night was a little

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Speaker 1: at some point, you're just throwing the three year old

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Speaker 1: for Andrew Nemhart in particular to handle SR Thompson one.

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Speaker 4: That's why I'm not shocked at the efficiency offensively wasn't

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Speaker 4: really there because it's like, all right, here's your gift

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Speaker 2: Their best defends.

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Speaker 1: This is what Rick talked about at the start of

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Speaker 1: the season, you know, putting too much on Andrew's plate.

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Speaker 1: And my thought is with Ben Sheppard and the starting lineup,

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Speaker 1: that assignment should go to him. You know, that's where

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Speaker 1: what it's Donovan Mitchell Friday night, it's you know, whoever

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Speaker 1: else am him there? And I would say one thing

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Speaker 1: on Jaris Walker, the Pascal Siakam had an interesting commat

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Speaker 1: post game of He said he told Jeris after the

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Speaker 1: game he felt like he could count how many times

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Speaker 1: he dribbled in the game. And I think that's just

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Speaker 1: kind of a reminder of Vet telling young pupil, hey man,

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Speaker 1: keep it simple, yep. To your point, James, don't overthink it,

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Speaker 1: just play. And I get there's a fine line and

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Speaker 1: as you said very accurately, when you make shots, everything

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Speaker 1: else probably gets swept under the rug there. But nonetheless,

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Speaker 1: one of the better nights Jeris Walker's had certainly in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it looked they kept getting behind, way behind,

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Speaker 2: and they kept coming back, and they actually had a

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Speaker 2: it wasn't the cleanest look, but it wasn't a bad

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Speaker 2: they were right there with whatever the.

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Speaker 4: Story of the season. Well, actually it hasn't been the

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Speaker 4: story of the season, but early on this year it

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Speaker 4: felt like that, and this would have felt like it

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Speaker 4: felt like the Pacers a kind of old where you

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Speaker 4: find a way to stand the game and perhaps this

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Speaker 4: sort of effort attention to detailed decisiveness, as we alluded

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Speaker 4: to earlier, can help you get over the hump.

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Speaker 2: But some of the next games coming up, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: only passingly paid attention to the Monday night football game

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Speaker 2: last night, forty nine Ers and Panthers. I almost felt

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Speaker 2: like I just needed an NFL breath, you know, sometimes

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Speaker 2: you just need to take a quick breath. I'd check

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Speaker 2: it out every once in a while, go away from

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Speaker 2: the Pacers game.

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Speaker 1: But you, okay, didn't do any good with your life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't.

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Speaker 1: Didn't hold it worried about you. You need an NFL breath,

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 6: This is the heart of the season, baby breath.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Are you ready for Thursday?

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Speaker 7: We might need it.

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Speaker 2: Here's the problem.

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Speaker 1: You need to prepare you. Thursday and Friday is one

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Speaker 1: of the greater four game Thanksgiving slights I can recall.

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Speaker 2: I think I think I'm just mentally exhausted. I played

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Speaker 2: way too many daily lineups the other day. All of

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Speaker 2: my guys on Fantasy either getting hurt or suspended, and

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Speaker 2: Jwan Jennings is probably gonna get suspended after throwing a

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Speaker 2: punch at the end of the game last night. I

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Speaker 2: just need a day or two, that's all I'm saying. Well,

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Speaker 2: in a day or two, because we're gonna have three

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Speaker 2: full games coming up day after tomorrow, right, and don't

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Speaker 2: we get a Friday game this year too?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Marks Bears, Eagles Bears.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then we get to Sunday all day and

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Speaker 2: of course we got Bucket game coming up on frend

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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Waking up today, we'll let you know that the Indiana

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Speaker 2: Pacers came close, but no cigar. Last night. They rallied

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Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah, back to the bench for him.

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Speaker 1: Pacers are probably done right with the NBA Cup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they still have to play out that round

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Also, the Indianapolis Colts returning back from

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Speaker 2: on Sunday. Just curious, Kevin, what did Shane Steiken have

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Speaker 1: Well, I mentioned it before the break. Ashton Doolan is

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Speaker 2: College basketball Yesterday, Notre Dame valued effort, but they come

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Speaker 1: Makes me want a puke. You even saying valiant effort.

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Speaker 1: Kansas is not their best player. You need to win

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Speaker 1: Bill self after the game. Yeah, four for a million

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Speaker 2: Is it wrong that I try to get him going

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Speaker 2: You know, you know I'd get on your skin. Also,

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Speaker 2: afternoon start. We've also got Kansas State at five Indiana.

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Speaker 2: That one starts at eight pm tennant as all of

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Speaker 2: This is the last time both Indiana football and basketball

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Speaker 2: Maybe Scotty can find that one out, but I bet

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Speaker 2: it's been a minute. The number two Indiana, who's your

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Speaker 1: Barry Otum saying Ryan Brown will start for Purdue. So

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Speaker 1: I believe he went with much improved.

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Speaker 2: He should take him seriously. You don't want to go

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Speaker 1: You've been high on Purdue this year.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say hi, but they are improved.

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Speaker 5: That's what.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what else you canna.

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Speaker 1: Say, I need to be high to watch Purdue. Did

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Speaker 2: It looks like they're actually fielding eleven players as opposed

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Speaker 2: At time, I will say this, Kevin, I was watching

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if I've really ever seen

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Speaker 1: Were all schirping yesterday their effort against Houston pretty quiet

439
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Speaker 1: against the old Notre name on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Uh, there wasn't an NFL game last night. Monday Night football.

441
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Speaker 2: Forty nine Ers survived three first half interceptions by brock

442
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Speaker 2: Perty to beat the car line of Panthers who just

443
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Speaker 2: don't have an offense. Twenty to nine was the final

444
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Speaker 2: score in that one. Maybe the most exciting part of

445
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Speaker 2: that game came after UH postgame handshakes were taking place

446
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Speaker 2: and Juwan Jennings decided that he didn't like the way

447
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Speaker 2: he was treated by one of the defensive backs for

448
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Speaker 2: the Panthers who just walked up and smacked him inside

449
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Speaker 2: of the head.

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Speaker 1: What did they pick this Monday night football game out

451
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Speaker 1: of a hat?

452
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Speaker 3: Maybe the only thing I could think of is they

453
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Speaker 3: were gonna say, oh, it's a Christian McCaffrey game. That's

454
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Speaker 3: exactly what they were the only thing I could think

455
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Speaker 3: of him like, what was what would be the boy?

456
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Speaker 3: We're really happy there? Well, you knew the Manning cast was.

457
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Speaker 1: Honestly, what other logic is there on that?

458
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Speaker 6: Can you give?

459
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Speaker 1: The Manning cast?

460
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Speaker 5: You know?

461
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Speaker 3: They were like, this is a crap game. Do they

462
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Speaker 3: like five guests yesterday? Like they were throwing.

463
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Speaker 2: Everybody at the wall? They lined it up last night.

464
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Speaker 2: They everybody on. I was watching that at the very

465
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Speaker 2: beginning there. Colin Jost was on there for a while.

466
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Speaker 2: Did you see that? Yeah?

467
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Speaker 3: It was him and Michael chaff from SNL, and I

468
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Speaker 3: forget who else there was. Everybody they're trying to Peyton

469
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Speaker 3: and Eli were like, we're not breaking down Bryce Young

470
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Speaker 3: and mac Jones and Brock party here. We need to

471
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Speaker 3: fill some time.

472
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Speaker 4: And to depend to Juwan Jennings a little bit for

473
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Speaker 4: you get kicked in the nuts right, Yeah, well yeah,

474
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Speaker 4: you got punch. It looked like, so you gotta leave

475
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Speaker 4: with that, Jeff. You can't leave the guy out there

476
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Speaker 4: to drive for two minutes on the show. I act

477
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Speaker 4: like you just something, bully. He defended himself. This was

478
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Speaker 4: basically like Jaylen Ramsey two point zero if you didn't

479
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Speaker 4: get to spit on obviously, But yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh so, San Francisco wins at twenty to nine, surprising

481
00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 2: him with all that talk, though Panthers are somehow six

482
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Speaker 2: and six. Kevin, I'm not surprised by this.

483
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Speaker 1: NFC South is just especially if Baker's gonna miss any time.

484
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Speaker 1: We'll see about that left shoulder with him ac joint there.

485
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Speaker 1: But again, a great Thanksgiving slate coming up on Thursday.

486
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Speaker 1: Here it's Packers Lions to start, Chiefs Cowboys at four

487
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Speaker 1: point thirty and then the night game. Joe Burrow sounds

488
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Speaker 1: like he will make his return against the Baltimore Ravens.

489
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Speaker 1: That is the AFC North leading raven.

490
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Speaker 2: No bodyes this week, nobody on by this week, so

491
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Speaker 2: everybody is playing.

492
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Speaker 3: Also, can't be on Thanksgiving. You got so many games

493
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Speaker 3: all over the board. You got to have everybody playing.

494
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Speaker 2: Indiana Basketball Hall of Fame announced the brand new class

495
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Speaker 2: of inductees last night, and they include Rick Fox from

496
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Speaker 2: the warsaw in nineteen eighty seven team. I think we

497
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Speaker 2: know Rick Fox wanted to have a pretty successful career

498
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Speaker 2: both North Carolina and three championships with the Lakers. And

499
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Speaker 2: also that nineteen eighty seven class. Mister basketball, Jay Edwards

500
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Speaker 2: from Marion also getting in last night, so that was

501
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Speaker 2: kind of fun to watch. There anything else you guys

502
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Speaker 2: want to throw in right here right now?

503
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Speaker 4: I have a question when you tell your kids to apologize,

504
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Speaker 4: do you tell them to apologize to the entire household

505
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Speaker 4: or do you tell them to apologize whoever they wronged?

506
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,439
Speaker 4: Because I saw the apology from Jamar Chase, who will

507
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Speaker 4: returned this week for the Bengals, and in this long

508
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 4: soliloquy that he posted on Instagram, nowhere in there did

509
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Speaker 4: he say I apologize to Jayalen Ramsey for spitting on him.

510
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Speaker 4: He wrote that I apologize to the entire Pittsburgh Hills organization. Brother,

511
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Speaker 4: you did spend on the entire organization. You spent on

512
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Speaker 4: one person. The weakest apology ever. Just save it, just

513
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Speaker 4: come back, rip that up chat GPT delete that that

514
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Speaker 4: was bad.

515
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Speaker 1: Not me right there. I Caitlyn Clark sounds like she's

516
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Speaker 1: gonna be on the court here and you know, quite

517
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Speaker 1: a big way. In a few weeks, Temosa announced women's

518
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Speaker 1: national team camp coming up in a few weeks. Along

519
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Speaker 1: with Caitlyn Clark, Lee of Boston will be there as

520
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Speaker 1: well Stephanie White, one of the assistants. They'll go to

521
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Speaker 1: Brazil next year for the World Cup. I want to

522
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Speaker 1: say it's next September there. So obviously Kaitlin Clark's health

523
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Speaker 1: something we saw not in you know what last game

524
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Speaker 1: played was July? Does that sound right? I feel like

525
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Speaker 1: for her with that hamstring growing, whatever it was. So

526
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Speaker 1: Caitlyn Clark. We'll have a team OSA camp coming up

527
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Speaker 1: here in December.

528
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Speaker 2: Scotty coming through. And it wasn't that long ago, And

529
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Speaker 2: it makes sense now that you kind of think about it.

530
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Speaker 2: I U football and basketball were both ranked last season.

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Speaker 2: The basketball team was ranked number seventeen at the start

532
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Speaker 2: of the season and they didn't fall out of the

533
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Speaker 2: top twenty five until the first week of December. They

534
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Speaker 2: never got back and of course great run for Kurtzignetti's

535
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Speaker 2: teams last year. So it was just last year when

536
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Speaker 2: they were both ranked. I'd forgotten that there were decent

537
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Speaker 2: expectations for the Who's your basketball team at the very

538
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Speaker 2: beginning of the year. Last season, it just went away quickly,

539
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Speaker 2: didn't they. All Right, that's what's happening in the world

540
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Speaker 2: of sports. Coming up next, we will talk a little

541
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Speaker 2: bit more about the Pacers and the Colts, and also

542
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Speaker 2: Rick Carlisle coming up at eight o'clock this morning. Get

543
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Speaker 2: his thoughts nine o'clock this morning. Thank you very much. Mark.

544
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Speaker 2: So it's a busy, busy day here at ninety two.

545
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Speaker 2: You missed it yesterday, James Boyd after that stomping of

546
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Speaker 2: Syracuse sesser Kevin Moohen is all about Jeremiah Love for

547
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Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy.

548
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Speaker 4: Now, that is certainly a conversation we can have. What

549
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Speaker 4: are the odds right now?

550
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Speaker 1: You might know starting to get a little closer, Mark,

551
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Speaker 1: you can double check out. But I want to say,

552
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Speaker 1: like Julian's saying, and Fernando Mendoza, we're both like whatever

553
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Speaker 1: plus one hundred, very close together. And I was saying,

554
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Speaker 1: was pretty uiet against Rutgers. Love obviously had a huge game,

555
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Speaker 1: and I want to say Mendoza is now the notable favorite,

556
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Speaker 1: but I want to say second might be Love.

557
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Speaker 3: Mendoza's number one at minus one twenty five, saying plus

558
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Speaker 3: four hundred, Jeremiah Love plus four fifty.

559
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Speaker 6: Always closing the gap, So closing the gap a little

560
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Speaker 6: bit there.

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Speaker 1: So Mendoz at minus one twenty five, mark, wo would

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Speaker 1: you call that like a two point favorite in the

563
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Speaker 1: NFL on a Sunday something like that? Yeah, yeah for

564
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Speaker 1: NFL for people out there trying to make comparison now

565
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Speaker 1: saying is gonna get prime time obviously Saturday, Ohio State

566
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Speaker 1: Michigan going for that one. I cannot imagine too many

567
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Speaker 1: people will be paying attention nationally to the bucket game

568
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Speaker 1: on Friday night, so we'll see what Mendoza does and

569
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Speaker 1: then Notre Dame's ten thirty prime slot, ten thirty time

570
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Speaker 1: slot on Saturday night. So not ideal either, But yeah,

571
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Speaker 1: part of me just thinks, whoever win's a big ten title,

572
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Speaker 1: that's what it'll go to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, probably whoever. If one of those quarterbacks comes out

574
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Speaker 2: in that game, it just has a big game, that'll

575
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Speaker 2: probably be the end of it. But I mean, if

576
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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Love comes up with a like two hundred yards

577
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Speaker 2: and a couple of touchdowns against Stanford. He keeps himself

578
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Speaker 2: right in there. If those two guys maybe play to

579
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Speaker 2: a stalemate and it's a fairly low scoring game, then

580
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Speaker 2: maybe he sneaks in.

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Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen Heisman Trophy winner.

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Speaker 6: Ooh, I have my college football history is not that great?

583
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Speaker 1: YEA think Derrick Henry two thousand and five. It's Preggie

584
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Speaker 1: Busher nineteen ninety five, Eddie George nineteen eighty five, Bo

585
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Speaker 1: Jackson nineteen seventy five, Archie Griffith nineteen sixty five, Mike Garrett,

586
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Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty five, the five Sarah running back. You

587
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Speaker 1: believe I think he needed?

588
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Speaker 2: How much time did you have to yourself yesterday?

589
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Speaker 1: Do you believe?

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Speaker 2: I believe in him. I think he's a great player.

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Speaker 4: I think that he needed IU or ohiose at the

592
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Speaker 4: blink and lose least one game.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how much it'll factor into I don't.

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Speaker 5: I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I don't subscribe to the whole like your team's record

596
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Speaker 4: is whatever, and we just saw last year that Travis

597
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Speaker 4: Hunter won it without his team. I believe even you know,

598
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Speaker 4: being in like a legitimate big time Bowl game. But

599
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Speaker 4: I do wonder if that's a part of the conversation

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Speaker 4: because the other two guys are undefeated.

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Speaker 1: James, what did you think of a lot of people

602
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Speaker 1: asking yesterday about chain Stike and taking the ball in overtime?

603
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Speaker 1: I guess A, were you surprised by that? B what

604
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Speaker 1: do you think of Steikans rational and explaining it yesterday?

605
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Speaker 4: I was a little surprised by just because your offense

606
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Speaker 4: is reeling and I would like to know kind of

607
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Speaker 4: Not that I play any type of poker or whatever,

608
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Speaker 4: but I think if you defend first, you had the

609
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Speaker 4: chance to kind of see the opponent's hand before you

610
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Speaker 4: show your hand. So if your defense, which to their

611
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Speaker 4: credit I think had been pretty solid all day. Now

612
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Speaker 4: of the yards, the total yards are ridiculous, and you

613
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Speaker 4: don't want to give up that many against anybody, but

614
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Speaker 4: against Mahomes and that team, you got to give up something, right,

615
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Speaker 4: So I thought they did, okay, And if they come

616
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Speaker 4: out there and hold them to a field goal or

617
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Speaker 4: even get up a touchdown, at least you kind of

618
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Speaker 4: know what you're up against going forward. So I thought

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Speaker 4: he put a lot of pressure on his offense go

620
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Speaker 4: out there not only just score, but to score touchdown

621
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Speaker 4: because it felt like at that point in the game,

622
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Speaker 4: there was no way Kansas City wasn't going to get

623
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Speaker 4: at least a field goal, and that's exactly what they

624
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Speaker 4: did to go win the game. So I didn't love

625
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Speaker 4: that decision, Not that I hated it all that much either,

626
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Speaker 4: but I was probably like, eh sixty forty on that

627
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Speaker 4: decision and then his explanation of it. I understand, like,

628
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Speaker 4: you know, wanting to a pressure on them and kind

629
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Speaker 4: of wanting to dictate how the game goes, but I

630
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Speaker 4: just didn't agree with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he basically he called it. If you look around

632
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Speaker 1: the league right now, it's about fifty to fifty teams

633
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Speaker 1: taking the ball versus wanting to play defense first and overtime.

634
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Speaker 1: You just remind everybody it's a ten minute overtime. Each

635
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Speaker 1: team gets a possession. The biggest con of course, of

636
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Speaker 1: taking the ball is you don't have the must go

637
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Speaker 1: for it on fourth down mindset that you would have

638
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Speaker 1: if you are taking the ball second, assuming that team

639
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Speaker 1: who takes it first has a score there. I didn't

640
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Speaker 1: have too much of it, you know, on my stiching

641
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Speaker 1: gripes from Sunday, I guess it wasn't that high in

642
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Speaker 1: the list. To be honest with you, First off, I

643
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Speaker 1: thought your defense was absolutely gassed. So asking them to

644
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Speaker 1: go back out there right away I don't think would

645
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Speaker 1: have made the most sense.

646
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Speaker 2: The fact that I hadn't considered for one of argument

647
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Speaker 2: that Kevin made yesterday that I was like, you know what,

648
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Speaker 2: I hear exactly what you're saying because void of that,

649
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 2: and I think that's a great argument.

650
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Speaker 1: By the way, only one argument in three hours yesterday.

651
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Speaker 2: I must have been a rough that particular that particular one.

652
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Speaker 2: I like that, and I started thinking a lot more

653
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Speaker 2: about that yesterday throughout the day. But the other side

654
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Speaker 2: of that context is they just hadn't done anything on offense,

655
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Speaker 2: and it just felt like, here's going to be another three.

656
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Speaker 2: I mean, it felt like there's going to be another

657
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Speaker 2: three and out Kansas City has to go thirty yards

658
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Speaker 2: to get a field goal and that's going to be

659
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 2: the end.

660
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Speaker 1: Yeah, by no means, I think is one answer. You know,

661
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Speaker 1: gospel Now, Shane didn't really point to the defensive side

662
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Speaker 1: of it at all in his explanation yesterday. He pointed

663
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: more to field position, and again, I know we're getting

664
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Speaker 1: kind of in the weeds of it. But you know,

665
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: now with the touchback being the thirty five yard line,

666
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: when you kick off, you're going to start mostly unless

667
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 1: you commit a penalty, probably right around that thirty five

668
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: yard line, Whereas if you get the possession second in overtime,

669
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Speaker 1: that is likely to come after a punt. You know.

670
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: The Colts obviously went three and out and they punted.

671
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: I forget where Kansas City started their own drive, the

672
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 1: inside their own twenty, weren't they, So that is obviously

673
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: a much different field position right there. So that's what

674
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: Shane pointed to of a little bit of field position.

675
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: If you are not scoring on that opening drive, you

676
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Speaker 1: are punting the ball. They started on their own ten,

677
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: So think about that. The Colts started on their thirty three,

678
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: Kansas City started on their ten. That's a I mean

679
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: twenty three yard difference in field position there. So I

680
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: think that's what played into a little bit more of

681
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: Stichen's thinking there.

682
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: But also too that that team had just gone ninety yards.

683
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, again, I'm not saying there is one overwhelming thought.

684
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to It was a question we got

685
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: probably more than any yesterday, and so I wanted to

686
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: make sure that we brought that up for our audience.

687
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: I think the bigger thing that everybody's been talking about.

688
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: I know Shane addressed it a little bit yesterday, and

689
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: maybe you have one of those cuts, Mark, where people

690
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: are like that fourth quarter, you just didn't use Jonathan Taylor,

691
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 2: what was going on there? And Steiken said, you know,

692
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: I probably could have used used him a little bit

693
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: more on the very last drive, but that was really

694
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: the only ground he was conceding yesterday, Mark, when he

695
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: talked about it, Well.

696
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, credit to Kansas City.

697
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 8: I thought they did a good job against the run,

698
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 8: But there's obviously some situations there too where I could

699
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 8: have probably called the run and popped a run there

700
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 8: looking back at it, and so we had some stuff

701
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 8: on the call sheet. Felt good about some of those passes. Obviously,

702
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 8: it just it didn't work out, you know, the way

703
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 8: I envisioned it yesterday. And so you always look back

704
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 8: at those things and could I have done this? Could

705
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 8: I have done that? You know, and always look at

706
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 8: that and learn from it and we move forward. I

707
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 8: think the basic argument that most people would make.

708
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: Against Shane and you made it yesterday, Kevin, don't want

709
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on it too, James, is regardless

710
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: of how you feel about your play calls and the

711
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: sheets and everything like that, in that fourth quarter, when

712
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: you had Kansas City on the ropes, ready to be

713
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 2: put down, perhaps for the rest of the season, you

714
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: basically ignored the best player in the game, Jonvin Taylor

715
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: just didn't get a chance to play a part in

716
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: helping the Coats close that out.

717
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that he was getting stuffed all game.

718
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 4: He had the one twenty seven yard run, so you

719
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 4: look at the runs outside of that, it was.

720
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: Very bleak.

721
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 4: But my argument even with that was one, JT is

722
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 4: a type where if you just give him a little

723
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 4: bit of time or a little bit of daylight, he

724
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 4: can kind of make some magic happen where others humanly cannot.

725
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 4: But two, the clock is your friend, and so by

726
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 4: throwing it as often that they as they did and

727
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 4: not being able to complete a pass, it essentially gave

728
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 4: Kansas City. I felt like the equivalent of maybe two

729
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 4: more timeouts Kevin, and they literally needed every single second

730
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 4: to push the game into overtime. And one stat, rather,

731
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a stat or just a

732
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 4: fun fact, and I thought about this yesterday. It's like,

733
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 4: please correct me if I'm wrong. The Colts didn't trunct.

734
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 4: They lost so what I believe they had to lead

735
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 4: the entire game and then they got tied there late

736
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 4: and they didn't lose the game until they lost it

737
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: on the last second field goal from Harrison Bucker. And

738
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 4: I say that because I felt like the second half,

739
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: particularly when it came into fourth coding overtime, especially the

740
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 4: fourth quarter. He called that game like they were down ten,

741
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 4: and I'm like, you're up. Use the clock as your

742
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 4: friend just a little bit. I mean that to me

743
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 4: is a part of the game management that we've seen

744
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 4: bite stiching in the butt a little bit over the

745
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 4: last couple of years, and it's become I wrote it,

746
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 4: and I have to go back and look at all

747
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 4: their details of just a few examples I could think of,

748
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 4: but it's become a bit of a theme where when

749
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 4: it comes to clock management game management, every now and

750
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 4: then shame will sort of abandon the run for the

751
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 4: past because the run isn't working, but also not factoring

752
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 4: in Hey, at least in this case, the clock is

753
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 4: your friend and you got to use all of your

754
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 4: friends to beat up and get passed the Chiefs.

755
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you let Kansas City off the hook

756
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: by just saying, you know what, you're showing us of

757
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, non advantageous situations. So therefore we're

758
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: not gonna try with Jonathan Taylor in the fourth quarter

759
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: and second half to win. Taylor's at his best. You know,

760
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: I said it quite often yesterday. Even if you want

761
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: to take out the adr run in Germany, James Taylor

762
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: is still averaging six yards per carry in the fourth

763
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: quarter of the season. That's removing the heroic run in Germany.

764
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 4: But even on that one, did he get stuffed and

765
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 4: we were like, oh, that's nothing.

766
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: But that's Taylor. You know, that's what makes us, you

767
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: know special. You know, go back to overtime at Atlanta.

768
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: He makes those two dudes missing the backfield, or he misses,

769
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: makes Billy Bowman missing the backfield. Then in the game

770
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: when he touched down, he makes Jesse Bates miss in

771
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. I go back to his

772
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: overtime run yesterday or Sunday, that was a second and

773
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: six where he gets bottled up. It looks like right

774
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: away and next thing. You know, Taylor trudges ahead, runs

775
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: through some tackles. It's third and one. You know that

776
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: is him turning exactly leak into something there. Now, this

777
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: is where I kind of cycle analyze Shane Stikeen a

778
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: little bit here. He didn't express a lot of regret

779
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: yesterday in the lack of Taylor usage. I think that's

780
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: a fair statement. You heard the clip right there, Yeah,

781
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit around. I believe Daniel Jones through

782
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: the ball right defenders ran into each other. It was

783
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: that drive. So if he felt good about the passes,

784
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: eight straight of them, he made it very clear there

785
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: was no limitations on play calling given the injury. Does

786
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: that main deep down he just thinks Daniel Jones stunk

787
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter yesterday or Sunday perhaps, But also,

788
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: and again I'm putting words into Shane Stecken's mouth. Heat

789
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: very clear here, but like he dialed up all these

790
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: passes for a reason, he doesn't feel like there was

791
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: any physical limitations. As he looks back on it yesterday,

792
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't express a whole lot of regret. Does he

793
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: just think Daniel Jones is bad when he put the

794
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: ball in his hands? Because Shane Stikeen told the whole

795
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: world on Sunday, I believe my quarterback right here.

796
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 4: And here's my push back to that, because I do think, oh,

797
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 4: I have to take Shane's word for my own opinion.

798
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 4: He did stinking that fourth quarter and he couldn't really

799
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 4: make the throws he needed to as of late, and

800
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 4: it wasn't all on DJ. I thought Daniel was under

801
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 4: siege a lot, you know, some of those blitzes they

802
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 4: gave and the looks that they kind of brought, the

803
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 4: pressure they brought.

804
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 6: But to kind of flip that question a little bit, Kevin, I.

805
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 4: Want to give Shane like truth seru and be like,

806
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 4: how much do you believe in this guy? Because I

807
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 4: do think he has been a revelation for this team.

808
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 4: He has been the best quarter they quarterback they've had

809
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 4: in years, probably since Philip Rivers. But with that in mind,

810
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 4: there are still limitations to Daniel Jones, and I think

811
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 4: we're starting to see that over the last couple of weeks,

812
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 4: where when things aren't perfect, like they pretty much were

813
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: through the first eight games of the year, what do

814
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 4: you do, how do you respond? How do you look

815
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 4: when things aren't perfect? Now, he hasn't looked like terrible.

816
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 4: I thought Sunday he played a fine game as far

817
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 4: as do. A couple touchdown passes, no turnovers, no sex,

818
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 4: but winning time. I'm like, very level. Yeah with theah

819
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 4: the one that should have been a pick, but you know, hey,

820
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 4: I could say that about a couple different players. But

821
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 4: all of that in mind, where does he think he

822
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 4: like ranks in the league as far as quarterbacks, I

823
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 4: could just give the ball to it and say, go win

824
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 4: a game.

825
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: He treated him like it was mahomes.

826
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 4: Right, and that's what it felt. I was like, wait

827
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 4: a second, no, no, no, that you don't have that guy.

828
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 4: They do, so maybe you need to take less pressure

829
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 4: or take pressure off of him and trust some other

830
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 4: players in that situation, because I felt like, after you

831
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: started the game so hard, I want to hot, I'm sorry,

832
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 4: after you started the game so hot, Daniel, I believe

833
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 4: was fourteen of sixteen passing to start the game, and

834
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 4: I believe he ended five or fifteen. At some point

835
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 4: you got to realize, man, my dude is a little

836
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 4: bit off.

837
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: He doesn't have it.

838
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 4: I think after a third down missed the Pittman, I

839
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 4: would have been like, all right, we got to figure

840
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 4: out something else to do to alleviate some pressure on

841
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 4: him besides saying, hey, number seventeen, go just win this

842
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 4: game for us.

843
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: And I think a question that these final six games

844
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: will lead to some answers for is do NFL teams

845
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: now look at the Colts and say, you know what,

846
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: if we commit and neutralize Jonathan Taylor early in a game,

847
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: Shane Stiken will not stick with him through the fourth quarter,

848
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: even when they have a two score lead on the road.

849
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: I mean two score lead on the road. Screams throw

850
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: the score, run to win, scream.

851
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy.

852
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: I feel like he abandoned his philosophy and he went

853
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: away from his own philosophy. So now do NFL teams

854
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: look at and say, guys, if we just show the numbers,

855
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: they won't give it to Taylor? And that, to me,

856
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: I think is a bigger issue of like, he is

857
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: your best player. You cannot let the other teams simply

858
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: dictate to him pre snap that you won't give the

859
00:36:54,840 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: ball to him. That that to me is coaching now

860
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: practice in eliminating one of your best players and not

861
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: finding ways to whatever creatively block it up. Try to

862
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: get him the ball. Truss Taylor to say, hey man,

863
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: you've shown the ability this year to even when the

864
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: numbers don't look great and there's a dude right in

865
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 1: your face, do you have an ability to make guys miss?

866
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: Whereas our quarter who is the better self creator? Jonathan Taylor,

867
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones.

868
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 2: It's not even close. It's Jonathan Taylor, So that would

869
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: be a question. I though, justin checking in on the

870
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 2: text line at two three nine ten seventy today, as

871
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 2: many people are, he says, can we just stop associating

872
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 2: genius with Shane? It shouldn't be associated with him. The

873
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: Chiefs were more committed to the run than the coach

874
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: who has the best running back in football. Explained that

875
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: one to me lol Varsity Blues. And he's right about

876
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 2: the fact that Andy Reid had said during the week,

877
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 2: we have got to get back to run the football.

878
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: And they didn't have huge bust out runs, but they

879
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: stayed with it enough. I think twenty nine or thirty

880
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 2: carries for Kareem Hunt. He had just at one hundred

881
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 2: yards or one hundred and two something like that. They

882
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: never gave up on that run and that allowed them

883
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: to do some of the other things that they did

884
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 2: throughout the game.

885
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say easier to run the ball against

886
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 4: the Colts who don't have the Forest Buckner a number

887
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 4: ninety nine in the middle of the defense. But yeah,

888
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 4: I think you still have to show some sort of

889
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 4: commitment to your run game to your best player. And

890
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 4: credit to Jonathan Taylor, he will never step out of line.

891
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 4: And you know, we had a chance to follow up

892
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 4: with him after the game, Hey, do you ever talk

893
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 4: to Shane about these players, these scenarios where perhaps you

894
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 4: should touch the ball more. He's like, Nope, we just

895
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 4: gotta go out there and extecute what we're given. So

896
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 4: I didn't get like a huge intense of frustration from

897
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 4: JT other than the loss itself. And I can see

898
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 4: why he would take that stance because to this point,

899
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 4: I mean, he's having one of the most prolific rushing

900
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: seasons in Colt's history, so he's probably think it's play

901
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 4: caller for that to some degree. But every now and then,

902
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 4: I'm just like man, Shane, sometimes you perhaps outthink yourself

903
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 4: a bit, and I always fluctuate myself from going and

904
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 4: thinking NFL football is so complicated, Oh my gosh, there's

905
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 4: so many different looks and plays, and look at the

906
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 4: All twenty two film, which, for those listening, the All

907
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 4: twenty two film is when you get all twenty two

908
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 4: players on this screen and they basically give you like

909
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 4: the raw version of the viewing experience the tape versus

910
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 4: it's so simple, run the ball. So I think that

911
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 4: Shan could, you know, look back at that and maybe

912
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 4: have some regret. Maybe some more would be good for him,

913
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 4: because this cannot continue to become a theme. I think

914
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 4: over the next what six ringing games of the season

915
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 4: and into the playoffs.

916
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: James, I know you were all over this yesterday for

917
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: those that were curious about it. One of the more

918
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: pivotal plays in the game was that Noah Gray catch

919
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: near the Cult's sideline where I believe he's in concussion

920
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: protocol right now.

921
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got knocked out on the play, actually.

922
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, should the Colts have challenged that

923
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: you want to share with Shane Steck and said about that?

924
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, shame said that.

925
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 4: He asked the official if they got to look at it,

926
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 4: and they said, well yeah. Replay assist stepped in and

927
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 4: ruled it a catch because he was going to challenge it.

928
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 4: So if those listening replay assist, I believe they have

929
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 4: a few on site at the stadiums, basically other officials

930
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 4: and people that know all the rules. And then they

931
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 4: also have the League office back in New York who

932
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 4: can occasionally step in and say no, no, no, no no,

933
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 4: don't use this challenge. We've already ruled this a catch

934
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 4: or not a catch, or inbounds not in bounds, those

935
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 4: types of things. And in that case, he didn't use

936
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 4: the challenge, which everyone watching at home, at least in

937
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 4: my opinion, probably was thinking, what the heck are you doing.

938
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: This guy was unconscious catching the ball. He didn't catch that.

939
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 4: His body went limp, he said, the reps told him

940
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 4: it was a catch, So he just saved the challenge

941
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 4: because if he challenges challenges it at that point, he's

942
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 4: going to lose a challenge, lose the time out in

943
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 4: a pivotal game. So a unique situation. I don't know

944
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 4: if he caught it or not. I think it's one

945
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 4: of those scenarios. Kevin and I went back and watched

946
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 4: the game copy to see all the angles they showed

947
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 4: on the game copy.

948
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 6: I really didn't see the ball hit the ground.

949
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: I was gonna think it would be difficult to get

950
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: the conclusive evidence right either way if they would have

951
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: called it incomplete on the field or if they would

952
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: have called it exactly what they do.

953
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 4: But on the flip side of that, I hear all

954
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 4: the fans, Colts fans in particular, telling me, well, what

955
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: is the catch? And I agree, I would agree with them.

956
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 4: I don't know, because the ball moved a little bit,

957
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 4: is it a catch?

958
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: Is it not?

959
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: I don't know.

960
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 6: Did you control it through the garround?

961
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 4: I feel like every time they show these slow more

962
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 4: replays of a catch, I have no idea what they're

963
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 4: gonna call, and then whatever they say, I just have

964
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 4: to roll with it. But yeah, there are some clarity

965
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 4: there for you on that play, which was a huge

966
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 4: one third and eight, you know, turning into fourth and three.

967
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 4: It's a lot different than fourth and eight if you

968
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 4: didn't catch that.

969
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, we will take some more of your feedback on

970
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: the fan text line, and also you want to call in,

971
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 2: we'll do that too. Two three ninety ten, seventy Rob

972
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 2: Blackman play by playboys for the Purdue boiler Makers, going

973
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: to join us at eight point thirty this morning, Rick Carlisle,

974
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: head coach of the Pacers. At nine, it's a busy

975
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: morning here at ninety three five and middle seven to

976
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: five the fan good morning, talking a lot about the

977
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: Colts in the aftermath that they're lost at Kansas City

978
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: and over time, and also the Pacers come up just

979
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: a little bit short last night against the Detroit Pistons.

980
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: But one other thing I have to get to. I

981
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 2: was following me on social media over the weekend, James,

982
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: and I need to know the resolution of this story

983
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: because you had written it. Currently at the Hotel Bar

984
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 2: restaurant and there's a woman here in Kansas City crying

985
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 2: and pouring her heart out about cheating with her best

986
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 2: friend's boyfriend, and she's trying to defend it. She says,

987
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: I was drunk. I didn't know what I did.

988
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,399
Speaker 1: How did this whole thing end up?

989
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 4: I really don't know, because I ended up finishing my

990
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 4: dinner and she was still there, pretty inebriated at that point,

991
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 4: and no joke. At one point I was I think

992
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 4: I was talking to my dad about the day's game

993
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 4: or something. I might to turn my head and at

994
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 4: this point she's still yapping and I have tuned out

995
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 4: everything she said and she points, she goes, I know

996
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 4: you heard that, and I like look and she's like, yeah,

997
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 4: I know you heard that, and she like laughed about something.

998
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 2: I was just like whatever.

999
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 4: So very weird night. Yeah, And actually I tipped, like

1000
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 4: I told you all yesterday. So yeah, I took my

1001
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 4: bartender a nice amount because it looked like she was

1002
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 4: having to deal with a lot of chaos because you

1003
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 4: know how I had got to the hotel, restaurant place

1004
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 4: or whatever, and it's it closed that ten of the

1005
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 4: guy got there, maybe nine fifteen, nine twenty, so I'm

1006
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 4: like the last guy eating or whatever, and it's supposed

1007
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 4: to be winding down, and they're like the people trying

1008
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 4: to slam in those last huge drinks in order the

1009
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 4: last few drinks before they basically kick them out, and

1010
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, you probably have had enough. And so they

1011
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 4: were cheese fans. They were uh, supposed to be happy

1012
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 4: cheese fans, and I guess she was kind of happy.

1013
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 4: But yeah, between like crying and laughing, there was a

1014
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 4: lot of you know, soul searching there. And I want

1015
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 4: to her so bad, Like you need to be on

1016
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 4: Jerry Springer. You never know what you're gonna see when

1017
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 4: you go out. You never know what's gonna happen. Yeah,

1018
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 4: I couldn't wait to get up to my room to

1019
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 4: get away from nonsense. I don't do drama, man. I

1020
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 4: was like, this is like watching the Real house of

1021
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 4: you know, Real Housewives of Atlanta or something like that.

1022
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 4: I just don't. Yeah, I can't really relate to it.

1023
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 4: So when she's like warning her guts out to her

1024
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 4: or her best friend and it's like the sky is falling,

1025
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, woman, pull yourself together.

1026
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: She'll bring a lot of am o to the thanks

1027
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: kipping table coming up on Thursday.

1028
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: Boy, could you imagine. Yeah, that's one of the things

1029
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: that I actually enjoy about living where I live is

1030
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 4: I ain't got to be around for too many family

1031
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 4: family advanced. So when is drama, I am oblivious to

1032
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 4: it all. You know, everyone's arguing about something and I'm

1033
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 4: just like, hey, pass the mass potatoes and you know,

1034
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 4: go to the other room.

1035
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: I always wonder too, when they when they're always to

1036
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: your point earlier too, about making last call for a

1037
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: lot of folks, I'm thinking for fifty percent of the

1038
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: folks in their last call, that might be that just

1039
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: one too many, right there? Oh what do you think? Definitely,

1040
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: just that's the one that gets you over the edge there, right.

1041
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 4: I pray for every bartender in America who has to

1042
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 4: give last call and then there's somebody who's you know,

1043
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 4: mad because they came up two minutes after last call, James.

1044
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: Several people were reaching out expressing a little bit more

1045
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: disappointment in the defense of the Colts from Sunday.

1046
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: Let's get into this.

1047
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you view it? We talked about it yesterday.

1048
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: If you'd have told me on Friday Show with Sauce Gardner,

1049
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: Mooney Ward and what I have said on paper is

1050
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: the best cold secondary in the history of me coming

1051
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: it look like it on Sunday would give up the

1052
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: most passing yards Patrick Mahomes has had in thirty five

1053
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: straight games. I would have said, what a ninety yard

1054
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: drive when the game is on the line. But then again,

1055
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: their offense provided zero complimentary aspect to keeping them off

1056
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: the field. So how do you view the defensive effort

1057
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: from Sunday.

1058
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: Well, first off, let's get our factorrat it was an

1059
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 4: eighty seven yard drive. Let's stop rounding up.

1060
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 1: Okay, total yards, right, didn't have sent them back.

1061
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, eighty seven yard drive. Officially, you know, I don't

1062
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 4: want to slide the defense there. So if anybody's listening

1063
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 4: to eighty seven nets pretty clear. But I think you

1064
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 4: do have to get to stop and I think Zire

1065
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 4: Franklin was big on that after the game. Credit to

1066
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 4: him for saying that. I think there might have been

1067
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 4: a question to the scrum where he was asked, hey,

1068
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 4: a few years ago, you guys are kind of struggling,

1069
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 4: and you come in here and you go toe to

1070
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 4: toe with the three time defending AFC champion and you're

1071
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 4: right there and he's like he looked at the dude

1072
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 4: and he was like, a no more victories here.

1073
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: We lost this game. We gave off the field.

1074
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 4: So I do think to get to the next level

1075
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 4: for this defense, with or without the Forest Buckner, you

1076
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 4: have to finish better. You got to get stops. I mean,

1077
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 4: you had opportunities. It was third and eight, Noah Great

1078
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 4: makes the crazy catch on the sideline, you go to

1079
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 4: fourth down, they convert the fourth down. So I think

1080
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 4: all those factors are huge when it comes to the defense.

1081
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 4: And I just want to know how much do I

1082
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 4: balance giving a pass to a guy like Travarius Ward,

1083
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 4: who gave up some big catches. I thought in the

1084
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 4: fourth quarter and overtime one twix they be worthy that

1085
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 4: he wishes he could have back. Do I give my

1086
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 4: pass first game in a long time, first game in

1087
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 4: a few weeks, or do I not?

1088
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 5: So?

1089
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 4: I liked what I saw early from the secondary, didn't

1090
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 4: love what I saw late from the entire units get

1091
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 4: off the field. So overall, I'll probably give it maybe

1092
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 4: like a C plus. You know, it wasn't great, wasn't terrible,

1093
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 4: but you need you gotta finish. You gotta finish, and

1094
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 4: I get it there on the field for forever. But look, man,

1095
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 4: it ain't gonna pretty sometimes.

1096
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 2: Also, maybe I have PTSD because I see it several

1097
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 2: times up close and personal every year, having followed the

1098
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 2: Broncos for so long. But I'm telling you there's a

1099
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: look in his eye and a little waddle that he

1100
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 2: does when he's coming back to the sideline after rushing

1101
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: for a first down for eight yards on third and

1102
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: seven and whatever this situation is all the time. I

1103
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 2: know this. If you're going to go in and win

1104
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: in Kansas City, you cannot just be up by less

1105
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: than a touchdown with five minutes to go and Patrick

1106
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: Mahomes has the ball. That's just just the way it is, James.

1107
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 2: I know, you got to have a defense that gets

1108
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: off the field, but he's sliced up better defenses than

1109
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: the Colts.

1110
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: Over and over and over.

1111
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: You gotta run the ball and take the ball out

1112
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 2: of his hands for as many minutes as possible. That's

1113
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 2: where I get back to for all this.

1114
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 6: That's a good point you made.

1115
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 4: Also, Kenny Moore, I thought was rough Sunday, Kevin, he

1116
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 4: was in the slot oft the mess over where she

1117
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 4: Rice right said a huge play. I thought that he

1118
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 4: got I thought Kenny had a rough day.

1119
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Worthy got ward there and overtime that was a

1120
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: huge third and seven that really, you know, got Kansas

1121
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: City on the move. It was kind of a wild

1122
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: status listening to the Colt Trown Table live last night

1123
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: with Joe Writs and Rick Venturry and Matt Taylor, and

1124
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: I thought I heard Matt Taylor say it was the

1125
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: most the Colts have been out gained in a game

1126
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: since twenty seventeen, which is just wild to me.

1127
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: Some rough years in between now and then.

1128
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: They've had some bad football teams and bad games since

1129
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, the first year of the ballad era. That's

1130
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: Chuck Pagano's final season, right, I'm trying to think back

1131
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: to who even was around in twenty seventeen, and uh, yeah,

1132
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: the Colts got out gained, I want to say, by

1133
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: two thirty nine on Sunday, which you know obviously is

1134
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: an indicator of okay, Then how do the Colts have

1135
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: a two score lead? Well, plays like latu Attu's pick,

1136
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: plays like Zia Franklin's fumble were huge in skewing you know,

1137
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: or maybe looking at some of that yardage and saying

1138
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: it's not an indicator of what the scoreboard looks like.

1139
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: In Kansas City was really pouring the red zone. The

1140
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: Colts said a nice job of that. So yeah, I

1141
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: mean Kansas City controlled the clock, they controlled the yardage.

1142
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: I mean it was something that just yeah, they just

1143
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 1: frankly controlled so much of it.

1144
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: It's the Fan Morning Show ninety three five, one oh

1145
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: seven five The Fan two three nine, ten seventy is

1146
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: the fan text line. Steve f from Avon says, looking back,

1147
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: it definitely seems like our offense was exposed by Pittsburgh

1148
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 2: A few weeks ago and now others might be looking

1149
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: to copy that philosophy. We wrote a lot of that

1150
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: off against Pittsburgh James to just that terrific defensive front

1151
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 2: that they have and TJ. Watt in particular. They had

1152
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 2: some pressure issues that they were able to eventually get

1153
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: past against the Atlanta but the offense just couldn't move

1154
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter when they needed to yesterday. I

1155
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: don't know are people now getting enough first half tape

1156
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 2: on this offense and Daniel Jones in particular and saying, Okay,

1157
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 2: this is how we're going to limit these guys.

1158
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 6: I think he was always going to come back down

1159
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 6: to earth.

1160
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: I want to say he was like a top five

1161
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 4: quarterback in the league against the Blitz through the first

1162
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 4: seven or eight games of the year, which was not

1163
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, the Daniel Jones we've seen for the majority

1164
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 4: of his career. And then now I believe he is

1165
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 4: like in the twenties as far as QBR and things

1166
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 4: of that nature, And for those listening passer rating QBR,

1167
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 4: those are basically just metrics to decide have you been

1168
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 4: a good quarterback? And so he's dropped significantly in those

1169
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 4: categories against the blitz in recent weeks, and so I

1170
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 4: don't know so much of its A lot of it

1171
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 4: probably is tape, Jeff, because you're going to look at

1172
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 4: what's worked for other teams and utilize your advantage. But

1173
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 4: also this has been the mo for Daniel Jones. Beat

1174
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 4: him up and he will through the foot. He will

1175
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 4: give you opportunities to turn it over what he had

1176
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 4: done in the previous two games, not this past Sunday.

1177
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 4: And then on top of that, I go back to

1178
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 4: the question I ask you all I believe in the

1179
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 4: first hour of the show, how good does Shamee Styken

1180
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 4: think Daniel Jones is? Do you think he is like

1181
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 4: a fully rehabbed quarterback and he's no longer the guy

1182
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 4: we saw in New York And if that's the case,

1183
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 4: I'd probably push back against that to some degree. Or

1184
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 4: do you think that there are some limitations to his

1185
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 4: game that you have to at least factor into how

1186
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 4: you call games and play call going forward, Because to me,

1187
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 4: he called that game again like he had Patrick Mahomes,

1188
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 4: like he had a dude that had gone out there

1189
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,399
Speaker 4: and won a bunch of playoff games and had proven

1190
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 4: himself to be the man and that's just not the

1191
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 4: case for Daniel Jones.

1192
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 2: I think he is.

1193
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 4: I think he's more than a game manager, but less

1194
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 4: than I don't know, a guy I would latch onto

1195
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 4: say hey, go win me a championship like you lead

1196
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 4: the way.

1197
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,720
Speaker 2: Seaberg says, yes, Kevin is, that's right. Chiefs played Shane

1198
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 2: for a fool. He did exactly what they wanted to do,

1199
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 2: just because they showed eight in the box. Shane dying

1200
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: on this heels predictable. Teams have figured us out. I

1201
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: don't know are ready to say, well, it's all over.

1202
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 2: They've all figured us out. Now, let's just see what

1203
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: they do the next couple of games, because they're still

1204
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: playing NFL teams, and you can't just completely discount those

1205
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 2: first ten games when they're eight and two. They did

1206
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: a lot of really great things. I think the biggest thing,

1207
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: if if I were Shane and I could change one thing,

1208
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: I would just give Jonathan Taylor the football more in

1209
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 2: the second half. That's really where I'd go.

1210
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: A couple of things on my mind leading into Sunday again,

1211
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: we'll just have tomorrow's show. Well, Thursday and Friday we

1212
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,479
Speaker 1: won't be on air, so we'll probably get a little

1213
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: textans thoughts here the next couple days. I cannot reiterate

1214
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: enough how absolutely massive. These next two weeks are home

1215
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,920
Speaker 1: to Houston on Sunday at Jacksonville on Sunday. If you

1216
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: look at playoff chances, odds six games to go. If

1217
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: you win these boat, I want to say, the odds

1218
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: of you winning the DIVI is like north of ninety percent.

1219
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: If you lose both, it drops to like fifteen percent. Ooh,

1220
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: so ninety something to fifteen something if you were able

1221
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: to take care of business in both or lose both,

1222
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: and if you split, you're looking at right around a

1223
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: coin flip here again you'll face Houston and Tennessee or

1224
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: excuse me, Houston and Jacksonville again to close out the season.

1225
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: So the next two weeks and then in the same

1226
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: or in the reverse order will be Jacksonville week seventeen

1227
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: at home Houston week eighteen. Down there. And also, you know,

1228
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: when I look at Houston, they have two dudes and

1229
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: Will Anderson Junior and Danil Hunter that can easily wreck

1230
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: a game. We have seen that here. We saw it

1231
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,479
Speaker 1: Thursday night against the Buffalo Bills. Nico Collins has also

1232
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: wrecked the Colts. He has absolutely dominated the Colts in

1233
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: the last three matchups. It is absurd the numbers that

1234
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: he has put up against Indianapolis. Now, having said that,

1235
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: this kind of goes back to the defensive conversation we

1236
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: just had, and I do think the blueprint of defending

1237
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: Patrick Holmes is different than defending a CJ. Stroud Texans offense.

1238
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: So my question would be, Sauce Gardner Mooney Ward, that

1239
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: cornerback duo is not you know, Darryl Baker Junior or

1240
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: you know, I think maybe even Juju Brent started a

1241
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 1: couple of those games. I mean, you have much different

1242
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: cornerback you know duos here on Sunday then you've had

1243
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: in recent memory with Collins. I really don't have a

1244
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: lot of fear in the Houston offense. If I were

1245
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: a Colts fan outside of Nico, that's it. I mean,

1246
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: I don't think Houston runs it very well. I don't

1247
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: think they have a lot of skill guys outside of

1248
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: Nico Collins that strikes fearing you. But he's a dude

1249
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: that has absolutely torched you in the last three meetings.

1250
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 2: Here are the stats for you last three meetings.

1251
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 4: Nico Collins is averaging seven point eight receptions one p

1252
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 4: fifty two point seven yards in twenty point eight yards

1253
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 4: per reception. He's got two touchdowns in those three games

1254
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 4: as well.

1255
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: Is it Sauce Gardner to the rescue? It might be.

1256
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 4: I thought that Sauce was been pretty good against the Chiefs,

1257
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 4: could have been better.

1258
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: At He's still figuring out where he is in this

1259
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: defense and what's going on too, don't you think.

1260
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if it if it is a shadow,

1261
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I think they look at

1262
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: those two and say, let's Leland on the same side

1263
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: of the field. Maybe it'll change on Sunday, But I

1264
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 1: don't view it as Sauce you go follow around.

1265
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 4: I guess my own reason I threw it out there

1266
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 4: was because Nico has great long speed, and that's the

1267
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 4: one thing that if you look at Javarius Ward and

1268
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 4: the scouting report and limitations in his game he's very

1269
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 4: talented player, is he doesn't have the long speed. So

1270
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 4: would that be a factor in how you match those

1271
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 4: guys up? But then, granted, you always have some safety

1272
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 4: up over the top. It's not like it's one on

1273
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 4: one to the outside. So a lot of factors there.

1274
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 4: But Nico Collins, Yeah, he looks like Jerry Rice every

1275
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 4: time he plays his team.

1276
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 1: Twenty two catches and twenty six targets in those three.

1277
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 6: The efficiency is crazy.

1278
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: And when you you just rattle off those yards, James,

1279
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: that's not dink and dunk to Nico Collins. You're not

1280
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: throwing a bunch.

1281
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 2: Of screams average twenty one yards to catch to him.

1282
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 1: So, and he did get a little banged up on

1283
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: Thursday night, He's say in that game against Buffalo, and

1284
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 1: again Stroud still needs to clear concussion protocol. So they'll

1285
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: get back to practice coming up tomorrow. They obviously had

1286
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 1: the ten days off. Colts go walk through tomorrow. By

1287
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: the way, late in the season, a lot of teams

1288
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: start to do this. So the Colts go walk through tomorrow,

1289
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: and then they'll have an early Thanksgiving morning practice on Thursday.

1290
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 4: They walk through it in a deserve to walk through.

1291
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 4: They got a practice. They gotta get back out there

1292
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 4: and get some things corrected. Do I sound like everybody

1293
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 4: right now gets the sky's falling?

1294
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 1: They can hide the Daniel Jones fibula injury a little longer.

1295
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, Chris is pushing back of the fact

1296
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: that I keep saying they need to run the ball

1297
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 2: more with JT in the second half. We've talked about

1298
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: it again and again, but maybe you just didn't hear

1299
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 2: it or missed it. Thanks for tuning in with Jovin Taylor.

1300
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: I don't care if you give it to him nine

1301
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: times in a row and he only gets nine yards

1302
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 2: on those carries that tenth time, it's always got the

1303
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 2: potential to be a game breaking run or at least

1304
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: a twelve or fifteen yard run. And they people are

1305
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: pointing out, well, except for that that one long run

1306
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 2: that he had, they didn't do anything all day long.

1307
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: But that's what Jonathan Taylor does.

1308
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: It's nothing, it's nothing, it's nothing, and then boom, game

1309
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 2: has exploded.

1310
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: Well, look, I'm not saying you need eight straight runs

1311
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 1: of Jonathan Taylor like you had eight straight passes with

1312
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. I think you can find a little bit

1313
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: of a balance though, and that you let Kansasity off

1314
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: the hook. Jonathan Taylor is at his best in the

1315
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. That is a one thousand percent true statement,

1316
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: and by limiting him in that quarter, you just bet

1317
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: in the knee. Frankly to Kansas City and you put

1318
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: the game in the right handed Daniel Jones and no,

1319
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: thank you on that.

1320
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 2: And I think I go back too. It's like, we

1321
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: all keep talking about this offensive line and how good

1322
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: they are running and running and running. And I know

1323
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: it was a little tough for the normal against Kansas City,

1324
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: but in the fourth quarter, aren't you supposed to be

1325
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: the team that wears the other guys down the longer

1326
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 2: the game goes on. Is that what we've talked about

1327
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: in the first ten to eleven weeks of the season.

1328
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 4: James, Yeah, and that is a bit concern that you

1329
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 4: weren't able to kind of break them down.

1330
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 2: They broke you down.

1331
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 4: But look, man, I'm just here to say, or mind

1332
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 4: all those listening, the sky isn't falling here in Indianapolis.

1333
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 2: They're eight and three.

1334
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 4: But to everyone's point of the show here so far,

1335
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 4: you don't get any cup kicks anymore. You've got some

1336
00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 4: big tests coming up, and how you respond to your

1337
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 4: first real bit of adversity. Shout with Joey Erics and

1338
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 4: Fanny Starr. He was really harping on that after the game,

1339
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 4: like this is the first time you kind of felt like,

1340
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 4: you know, are we as good as we think we

1341
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 4: are this year? Because you lost two of the last

1342
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 4: three and that just hasn't happened this year. So how

1343
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 4: do you respond against some teams that surely will give you,

1344
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 4: I think, some formidable some formidable games. You know you're

1345
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 4: looking at the Houston. I get all the offensive issues

1346
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 4: and limitations you talked about, Kevin, But the return to

1347
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 4: Jay Stroud Nico Collins is Jay Rice against them and

1348
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 4: their defense gives them so many opportunities to basically go

1349
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 4: out there and win again, would you know, just twenty

1350
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 4: twenty one points? So can you go out there and

1351
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 4: respond against one a Houston defense and also in a

1352
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 4: division matchup that is huge because you talked about it

1353
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 4: very much, Kevin, the bigger game of the two over

1354
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 4: the last two weeks is this one, although psychologically it

1355
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 4: might have been over in Kansas City, but from a

1356
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 4: standing standpoint, your a division, you got to go out

1357
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 4: there and be Houston otherwise, think it's really dicey.

1358
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: I think down the stretch also Colts win two of

1359
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 2: their next three. Do we just forget about Kansas City

1360
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: as being like a speed bump if they went three

1361
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 2: or four two of three that's oh well, that was

1362
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: that was an overtime game we lost by three in

1363
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 2: Kansas City against Patrick Mahomes. Just blow it off at

1364
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 2: that point.

1365
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: If the Colts go on to win, yeah, if they

1366
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: just go on and they get back to what they

1367
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: were doing the first half of the season, then it's

1368
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: just a bump in the road, right, Yeah, I would guess.

1369
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I yeah, I'm just saying we sit here

1370
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 2: and all of us and myself included, are like analyzing

1371
00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 2: this game what they should have done and then could

1372
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 2: put the Chiefs away? And now what does it do

1373
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 2: for their playoffs with this tough schedule going on? But

1374
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: I you know, I've adopted this new philosophy last couple

1375
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: of years, like what if it all works out? What

1376
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 2: if it all works out? And oftentimes it does?

1377
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 6: Right now, I'm like, man, I think I'm a I

1378
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 6: might be a pestive. It's I I will talk to Sam.

1379
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: What if Augusta National this afternoon?

1380
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: Do you know the markets you're in?

1381
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: What if it all works out?

1382
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 2: Look at the Pacers?

1383
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 6: Man, Oh my gosh.

1384
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: You see what that statement is. Clark, and you're too,

1385
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 2: you see what that statement is given us?

1386
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 6: Mark, Oh, gosh, I'll tell you what.

1387
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 4: You're giving me some some bluff flowing here this morning,

1388
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 4: So respect.

1389
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 3: Any whatever drugs you're on right now.

1390
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 2: Oh I wish I was on plenty this morning, believe me.

1391
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: All right, let's check down and tell you what's happening

1392
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: right here right now. There's nothing better in my day

1393
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 2: than if I say something and both guys just sit

1394
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: up straight.

1395
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: Like what are you talking about?

1396
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 6: I think everyone listenings to the show says the same thing, right.

1397
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 2: That's all right? Colts versus Texans, one o'clock Sunday afternoon.

1398
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 2: My point, Kevin is ultimately a good performance at home

1399
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 2: against the Texans, and we put it all behind this

1400
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 2: at this point in time and just start looking forward

1401
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:16,479
Speaker 2: again and.

1402
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 6: It all works out mister Roger style.

1403
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: It is a massive one coming up on Sunday, There's

1404
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,439
Speaker 1: no doubt about that, Colts. I think about a three goal,

1405
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 1: three point almost said three and field goal a three

1406
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: point favorite in this one.

1407
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: All right. As far as what we learned from Shane

1408
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 2: Steiken yesterday, anything is he addressed the media after the

1409
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:35,919
Speaker 2: loss to Kansas City.

1410
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 4: The most newsworthy item was the loss of Ashton Dulan

1411
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 4: wide receiver slash special teams ACE for this team for

1412
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 4: quote some time. That could be a couple of weeks

1413
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 4: at least, that's my interpretation of it. With Ashton Dulan

1414
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 4: due to a hamstring injury and then he didn't offer

1415
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 4: anything when it comes to Daniel Jones and his fibula injury,

1416
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 4: although I think we all saw that he was limited

1417
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 4: in some capacity capacity physical against the Chiefs, But all

1418
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 4: Shame would say was he's got a fibula, And I

1419
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 4: want to say I would hope that is the case,

1420
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 4: because you can't play quarterback well without it.

1421
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: What happened to the other one would be my question.

1422
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 2: He's got a fibula, all right, So that'll be one

1423
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 2: o'clock ten am is when the network pregame starts. But

1424
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: jamb will get you going with the Ride to Kickoff

1425
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 2: starting at nine am on Sunday. Also, the Indiana Pacers

1426
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: last night at home at the Fieldhouse, taking on the

1427
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: one of the best teams in the league right now.

1428
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 2: The Detroit Pistons came in having won twelve games in

1429
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 2: a row. Pacers push him to the end. Benedict Mathern

1430
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 2: has a chance to tie it with a three less

1431
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: than ten seconds to go, but it was off the mark.

1432
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 2: Detroit gets a couple of free throws. They win their

1433
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 2: franchise tying record thirteenth straight game, one two, one seventeen

1434
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 2: over the Pacers. Kate Cunningham led the Pistons with twenty

1435
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 2: four points eleven rebounds, Kris Labert at nineteen and once again,

1436
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, he's consistent, Pascal siak I'm twenty

1437
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 2: four points. He just brings it every night, doesn't he.

1438
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, the consinment, professional and a great leader for this team,

1439
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 4: especially in the time like this where you need someone

1440
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 4: to kind of stabilize you. I think Siakam offers you

1441
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 4: a lot of perspectives because he's been on every end

1442
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 4: of the NBA spectrum.

1443
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 2: Also, last night, Jared Walker Kevin might have played his

1444
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 2: best basketball game. Is an Indiana Pacer. Scored twenty one

1445
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 2: points coming off the bench, looked like pretty good player

1446
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 2: last night.

1447
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of sounds like the weather on the

1448
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: drive in. Honestly, when I look back at last night

1449
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: with the Pacers, it's like, oh, well, reality is creating

1450
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 1: a clutch game against one of the best teams in

1451
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: the league is a step in the right direction, and

1452
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: Detroit was healthy, which they weren't last week. When you

1453
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 1: face them and really your bench, I would argue, was

1454
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,439
Speaker 1: probably the unit that was better for you in that game,

1455
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 1: at least kind of kept you hanging around. Walker was

1456
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: a part of that. I thought TJ. McConnell was very good.

1457
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: Jay Huff and Jeremiah Robinson Earl even had a few moments.

1458
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: So much much needed for Jaris Walker. We'll see if

1459
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: he can string a few together.

1460
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 2: Patriots will play on the road against the Toronto Raptors

1461
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 2: tomorrow night. Last night, the Raptors beat the Cavaliers by

1462
01:03:56,840 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: a score of one to ten to ninety nine. Playing

1463
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 2: at home, and the Raptors all of a sudden, James

1464
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 2: are one of the better teams in the Eastern Conference

1465
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, I feel like I'm in the upside down.

1466
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 4: All the Pagers had the Stranger Things theme yesterday for

1467
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 4: some of their pregame stuff, and it amazes me that

1468
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 4: Detroit is number one of these in the tonal Raptors

1469
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 4: aren't in the gutter anymore now.

1470
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 2: This PACER's playback is presented by C and J Water,

1471
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 2: the official water treatment partner of the Indiana Pacers. Cnjwater

1472
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: dot Com. Moving on to college basketball. Last night, Kevin,

1473
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: how did Notre Dame do against the Kansas Jayhawks?

1474
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 1: They lost? They couldn't throw it in the ocean. From

1475
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: three sad happy about it?

1476
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 2: Seventy one sixty one. It was in Las Vegas. Floria

1477
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 2: Badunga had eighteen points. Bryce and Tiller had seventeen, Troy

1478
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 2: White sixteen for Kansas. Marcus Burton scored twenty four in

1479
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 2: the loss. Jalen Harrelson had thirteen points. Not much happening

1480
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 2: after those two really offensively was there?

1481
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Flora killed them. Floria absolute dominated the game. Shout

1482
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,919
Speaker 1: out to the former Cocomo. Probably, I know I should

1483
01:04:58,920 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: be happy for him, but I'm not.

1484
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: Later on tonight, Indiana will play at home with a

1485
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 2: brand new twenty fifth ranking showing up in the top

1486
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 2: twenty five. They'll play at eight o'clock against Kansas State

1487
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: this evening. They are five and zero four and oh

1488
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 2: home so far, and Notre Dame gets another crack at

1489
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 2: it in Las Vegas, Kevin, one o'clock this afternoon, they'll

1490
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: take on four and one Rutgers.

1491
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 1: Both teams four and one right now. It's a big

1492
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: game for Indiana tonight. You know the Marquette win. I

1493
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 1: don't think this is maybe. I think it was notable

1494
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: anytime score one hundred against the Shaka Smart team, but

1495
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: MARQUETTEZ I think like five hundred right now, So you know,

1496
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: maybe it won't carry as much weight as you would

1497
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 1: think it would. Kansas State, Yes, it's in your own building.

1498
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: You're an eight and a half point favorite. Ave at night.

1499
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: Start to the season.

1500
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:41,479
Speaker 5: PJ.

1501
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: Haggerty's been one of the best players in college basketball

1502
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: frankly early on, so you know, good to get another

1503
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: one for Darren Freezing Company before they got those back

1504
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: to back Saturday games in December. Upcoming with Louisville on

1505
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: the neutral floor and then at Kentucky Man.

1506
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 2: We're all getting ready for the bucket game coming your

1507
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 2: way Friday night, seven thirty pm up in West Lafayette.

1508
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 2: Number two Indiana taking on Purdue as the Hoosiers continue

1509
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 2: to try and drive themselves all the way towards a

1510
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 2: national championship and finish up their regular season. Number nine

1511
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 2: Notre Dame plays on the road at Stanford. Also, the

1512
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 2: Indian ig Nite had their draft yesterday and it was

1513
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 2: very locally themed. They selected two Indiana natives for their

1514
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 2: professional volleyball team up in Fisher's Kara Caress and Emma Halter. Also,

1515
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: two IU players were selected by the team, Candela Alonso

1516
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 2: Corcelis and Avery Tatum. So a lot of local flavor. Yesterday,

1517
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 2: I know Jake was doing his broadcast up there from

1518
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 2: the Indian Ignite draft. Have you been to any of

1519
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 2: those Indignita Those are actually fun.

1520
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was opening night with my sister in LIX

1521
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: shows an awesome, awesome atmosphere. I saw Pepper and Jake

1522
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: were high five and yesterday on camera m A. Halter

1523
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: had a hell of a career at Ron Coolly so

1524
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,480
Speaker 1: cool to see a little bit of a local flavor

1525
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 1: and looked like she was very very happy to be

1526
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: returning to her home city.

1527
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 2: Mark, I think your girls would love to go see

1528
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 2: an Indignite game. They got to get out at the time. Man,

1529
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 2: all right, anything else you guys are to throw in

1530
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 2: before we get ready to go to Rob Blackman here?

1531
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1532
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 1: Anounced yesterday Kaitlyn Clark will be a part of TSA's

1533
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: national team camp coming up here in a few weeks.

1534
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: Leah Boston as well, obviously for Caitlyn. It'll be her

1535
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: one of her first times, I guess playing five on

1536
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: five and quite a while here, certainly in a notable setting.

1537
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 1: Stephanie White, one of the USA assistants. I think it's

1538
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,120
Speaker 1: an eighteen person camp, a lot of young talent. You

1539
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: definitely have some older players still, Kelsey Plum, Brittany Grinder,

1540
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: some older players there, Chelsea Gray, I believe, but a

1541
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 1: little bit more of a young flavor there. So they'll

1542
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: they'll have a camp coming up December twelfth through the fourteenth.

1543
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 1: So Caitlyn Clark back and healthy and ready to go.

1544
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 3: Diana Trozy's looking to see which young gun she can

1545
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 3: knock off the roster. I got one more in me, Coach.

1546
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: Go in Nancy Kerrigan Caitlin at the airport.

1547
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 2: You might she might still be able to score thirty points,

1548
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 2: though in one of those games. I wouldn't put it

1549
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 2: past her, all right. Coming up at a moment, Rob Blackman,

1550
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 2: the voice of the Purdue boiler Makers, what might they

1551
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 2: have in store for number two Indiana this weekend? We'll

1552
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 2: find out. We pause from our dissection of the Cults

1553
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 2: overtime loss to the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday to

1554
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 2: talk football on the collegiate level. Number two Indiana taking

1555
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 2: on Purdue the Bucket game coming your way Friday night,

1556
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 2: seven thirty up at ros aid and man, we are

1557
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 2: so lucky, guys to have some of the play by

1558
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 2: play voices in the state of India.

1559
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 9: We have.

1560
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 2: We talked to down all the time in this station.

1561
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 2: But and I love Rob Blackman, the voice of the

1562
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 2: Purdue boiler Makers, joins us now on the Payless Liquerors Hotline.

1563
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 1: Good morning, Rob.

1564
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,879
Speaker 2: It is just comforting whether I'm listening to a Purdue

1565
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 2: game or an Indiana game, either one of you, guys.

1566
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,719
Speaker 2: I just feel better when I hear you guys calling

1567
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 2: football games. Is that all right?

1568
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 7: That is very kind of you to say. And I

1569
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 7: am with you in that. I too, am a big

1570
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 7: fan of Don Fisher. I don't know if I'm supposed

1571
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 7: to admit that publicly as a crew guy, but whenever

1572
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 7: I have a chance to catch Fish doing football or basketball,

1573
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 7: I always tune in. So but yes, thank you for

1574
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 7: the kind words.

1575
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: Rob Blackman, with his air of voice of the Boilers.

1576
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: Let's begin with what happened over the weekend. What they

1577
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 1: did in Texas, Tech was quite impressive by the way.

1578
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Bahamas treated you quite well. Uh, Purdue

1579
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: once again doing Purdue things when it comes to non

1580
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,240
Speaker 1: conference slate, particularly on neutral floors. Rob, I thought some

1581
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: that stood out to me was and not like diminish

1582
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: Brainsith and drink offf and Ren. But you got that done,

1583
01:09:18,280 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 1: and you can make the argument their two best players

1584
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: were Fletcher Lawyer and CJ. Cox. Like that to me,

1585
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: I think kind of further stands out to what Purdue

1586
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 1: could potentially be this season.

1587
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 7: Well, here's how you can. You can you can have

1588
01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 7: tangible evidence to your argument. Neither two of the All

1589
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 7: Americans even made the Alternament team. Uh, Fletcher Lawyer made

1590
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 7: it and Oscar Club made it. So we mentioned the

1591
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 7: same thing on the postgame show. We're like, think about this,

1592
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 7: Purdue has two preseason All Americans and neither one of

1593
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 7: them even made the Alternament team here in the Bahamas. Uh.

1594
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 7: So yeah, that certainly speaks to the depth of Purdue.

1595
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 7: And I'm with you. I think if you know, if

1596
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 7: they would have added one more position to the alternament team,

1597
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 7: it would have been CJ. Cox because of how he

1598
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 7: played in both of those games. You know what, I

1599
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 7: think he had ten points in the Texas Tech game,

1600
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 7: and more importantly had eighteen. I'm pretty sure it wasn't

1601
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 7: a Memphis game, So yeah, it certainly does speak the

1602
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 7: depth of Purdue. And then you look at the guys

1603
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 7: that played off the bench. You know, I thought Daniel

1604
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 7: Jacobson played really well off the bench for purduees as

1605
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 7: well as Omer Meyer.

1606
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,280
Speaker 9: So yeah, it's kind of it is is a Purdue

1607
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 9: fan gets awful comforting to know that you can go

1608
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 9: win a tournament like that, win the championship game by

1609
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 9: thirty points against the fifteenth fifteenth ranked team in the country,

1610
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 9: and at least on paper, the two guys that are

1611
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 9: the best players on your team didn't even make the

1612
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 9: all tournament team.

1613
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 4: To that point, Rob, how much do you think Daniel

1614
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 4: Jacobson in particular is just enjoying the ability to play

1615
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 4: this year. Only appeared, I believe in two games last

1616
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 4: year for the season ending leg injury, and now he's

1617
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 4: getting re acclimated into a team that obviously has very

1618
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 4: high expectations.

1619
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know it's he played that first full

1620
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,519
Speaker 7: game last year and then broke his foot one minute

1621
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 7: in the game. Number two. So you know, you're sixty

1622
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 7: literally sixty seconds into the second game of your career

1623
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 7: and you're on the shelf for the season. So yes,

1624
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 7: the fact that he is finally getting an opportunity to

1625
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 7: play and play extended minutes. Now, look, I know against

1626
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 7: Memphis Thursday, he played I think only five six minutes

1627
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,280
Speaker 7: in the game, but he did affect the game. I mean,

1628
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 7: he still had I don't know, six points, a couple

1629
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 7: of rebounds, played nearly twenty minutes in the championship game.

1630
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 7: But certainly the fact that he's getting a chance to play.

1631
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 7: One thing that has really helped him the last two

1632
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 7: summers is he's played for Team USA and the feed

1633
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 7: the games for the U eight teams and the U nineteens.

1634
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 7: So that's been pretty significant for him because at least

1635
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 7: he was still especially this past summer, you know, you

1636
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 7: come off a season where you didn't literally do anything

1637
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 7: because of a broken foot. At least he had those

1638
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 7: few weeks to play with USA Basketball. But look, he's

1639
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 7: you know, he's not Zach Heed. He certainly very few

1640
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 7: will ever be as good as that guy was. But

1641
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 7: he is seven toot four, he's very long, he's athletic

1642
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 7: and he can affect shots at the rim offensively. He

1643
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 7: does have a good skill level, not great. You know,

1644
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 7: you can see that's kind of coming around, But yeah,

1645
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 7: you can't. You know, you don't. You don't coach seven

1646
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 7: foot four, right, And that's what Purdue desperately needed. Last year.

1647
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 7: They had no rim protection. I've told this story many

1648
01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 7: a time. So Purdue goes all the way to the

1649
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 7: Sweet sixteen last year despite having the worst two point

1650
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 7: defense in the country and not the second worst, the

1651
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 7: worst two point defense in the country because Purdue could

1652
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:33,760
Speaker 7: not protect the rim. If you got into the paint

1653
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 7: last year, you were you were probably getting a bucket.

1654
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 7: You either getting fout or you're getting the bucket. And

1655
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 7: that has changed this year and Daniel Jacobson is a

1656
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 7: big part of that.

1657
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 2: Talking to Rob Blackman, the play by playboys of the

1658
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 2: Purdue Boiler Akers football basketball and we've got a little

1659
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 2: bit of a game coming up on Friday night, I'm

1660
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: just curious from your standpoint, we know that they're better

1661
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 2: than they were a year ago, but what does Purdue

1662
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,680
Speaker 2: have to offer on Friday night.

1663
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, let's start with the fact that Purdue is better.

1664
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 7: It's certainly. Again, when you're looking for tangible evidence and

1665
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,799
Speaker 7: wins and losses, you're not seeing it. You know, Purdue

1666
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 7: has two wins this year. Last year and they only

1667
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 7: won one game. But I you know, look, I saw

1668
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 7: I saw coach Signetti's comments yesterday as Presco conference.

1669
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 5: He sees it too.

1670
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 7: Purdue has improved produce playing hard. Purdue does have a plan.

1671
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 7: Uh just don't have enough good players right now. And

1672
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 7: look when you bring in whatever it was, seventy some

1673
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 7: new players to try to put together a team in

1674
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 7: the off season and then thirty of those guys rolled

1675
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 7: on the after spring, you know, it's kind of hard

1676
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 7: to piece together, especially in the Big Ten. So what

1677
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 7: does your direct question was, what does Purdue have to offer?

1678
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 7: Purdue is going to play hard, and Purdue is going

1679
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 7: to have a plan. The problem, of course, is Indiana

1680
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 7: is just so good and so well coached and so

1681
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 7: many talented players all over the field. You guys know this,

1682
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 7: at the end of the day, it comes down to players,

1683
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 7: right You're going to if you have good coaches on

1684
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 7: both sides, if you have if you have you know,

1685
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 7: a good game play on both sides, that's great. But

1686
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 7: at the end of the day, one team is going

1687
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 7: to have the better players. Uh, and that team right

1688
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 7: now is Indiana. And that's what Purdue is striving to

1689
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 7: get to. And and you know they'll try to do

1690
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 7: that with with the signing period next weekend with or

1691
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 7: next week I should say, with high school kids, and

1692
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 7: then they'll certainly be active in the transfer portal. But uh,

1693
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 7: it has been comforting the losses of stunt don't don't please,

1694
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 7: don't misunderstand me here this year, but it has been

1695
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 7: comforting to know when you go to a Purdue football game,

1696
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,600
Speaker 7: at least you can see that there's some structure. You

1697
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 7: can see that there's a plan, you can see that

1698
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 7: they are well coached. It's just now a matter getting

1699
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:44,679
Speaker 7: you know, the old You have to have some better

1700
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 7: Jimmy's and Joe's and that's what Prdue is going to

1701
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 7: have to strive to get in the off season.

1702
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 1: Rob, is this a little double dip action on Friday?

1703
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: How many times have we had this on campus noon?

1704
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: Right for the hoops against Eastern Illinois and then the

1705
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 1: bucket game of course the rare Friday night seven o'clock er.

1706
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 7: I appreciate you asking that question because That is a

1707
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 7: question that is being asked around the athletic department for

1708
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 7: the last two or three weeks, and no one seems

1709
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 7: to know the answer. And I think the answer is

1710
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 7: because it's never happened. Now. Look, Purdue basketball and football

1711
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 7: have played on the same day, but never both at home.

1712
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 7: We are we're almost certain of that. No one can

1713
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,240
Speaker 7: seem to find a record of that the last time

1714
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 7: this has happened. So it's going to be a long,

1715
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 7: long day for sure. And with you know, football is

1716
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 7: not even kicking off till seven forty five so and

1717
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 7: basketball tips off at noon. So I the folks I

1718
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 7: feel the worst four guys actually are the folks that

1719
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 7: help on the periphery, you know, like the ushers and

1720
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 7: the folks that park the cars, and the concession workers

1721
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,679
Speaker 7: and all those folks, because they're you know, they're they're

1722
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 7: going to be double dipping too. So rest up on

1723
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 7: Thanksgiving Day because man, Friday is going to be a long,

1724
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 7: long day.

1725
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 2: Get your mass potatoes, Rob carbop baby.

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01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 7: Hey, trust me, I've never been one to be bashful

1727
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 7: about going back to seconds, So let's not let's not

1728
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 7: even consider that.

1729
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 2: I'm right there with you, man, when it comes to

1730
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving dinner, like, just load up. That's my one excuse

1731
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 2: each year to just to eat as many mashed potatoes

1732
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 2: as I can stuff down the gullet. Man, So have

1733
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 2: a good day Thursday.

1734
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 7: Well are you are you guys? Leftover guys? Because I'm

1735
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 7: on the leftover Oh yo, I'll go through Sunday through

1736
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 7: Sunday night on the Thanksgiving leftovers. It doesn't bother me

1737
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 7: at all.

1738
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the way.

1739
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 5: To do it.

1740
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:30,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Sunday night is a lemit.

1741
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 1: Rob.

1742
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 6: After that, I'm looking at just how it ways.

1743
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 4: Monday, Monday, the next week comes, the work week comes,

1744
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 4: I'm probably looking like, all right.

1745
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to stink up the fridge.

1746
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, to make sure Rob is healthy enough to continue

1747
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 4: his great calls for the Predu boel Makers.

1748
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 2: We're just thinking of you, Rob, that's all we're doing.

1749
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving, Rob.

1750
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 7: That thanks okay, gentlemen, thank you, talk to you soon.

1751
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 2: Appreciate it. There is one of my favorite people to

1752
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 2: talk to. Rob Blackman, the play by play voice of

1753
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 2: the Purdue boiler Makers, have a plan.

1754
01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,759
Speaker 1: One thing I did want to note Purdue football wise,

1755
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:06,919
Speaker 1: I'm watching Oklahoma Missouri on Saturday, and I totally forgot

1756
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: that this player was now at Oklahoma and they showcased

1757
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 1: Deon Burks at white Out, and it just kind of

1758
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: got me thinking that you look at Purdue over the

1759
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: last few years, and Rob said it right there about

1760
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: the Jimmy's and Joe's. Purdue right now has dudes playing

1761
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: I would argue somewhat prominent roles for Oklahoma, for Oregon,

1762
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 1: for Ohio State, for Clemson, for Texas, for Texas A

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01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 1: and M and Nick Gorton a couple of years, Like

1764
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I mean, we're talking what seven of

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01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 1: the top x amount of programs in the nation, and

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01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: they are prove football transfers. The Big Ten should not

1767
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 1: have dudes transferring from their conference to go place out,

1768
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 1: go play elsewhere. Retention of your top talent is an

1769
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 1: absolute must. And I'm not acting like Purdue's got that

1770
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,880
Speaker 1: type of talent on their roster right now, but in

1771
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: the Ryan Walters era they had some of that. You

1772
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,519
Speaker 1: can't let those dudes walk out of the door. That's

1773
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 1: not football is today Big Ten schools. If you want

1774
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: to sit at the big Boy table at Thanksgiving, you

1775
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: can't be letting those guys transfer.

1776
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 2: I think part of the problem is though to and

1777
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:10,679
Speaker 2: I agree with you.

1778
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: And that's a financial element. I don't want ignore the

1779
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 1: elephant in the room.

1780
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 2: But for some of those kids too, they're like, well,

1781
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 2: all right, mikels have been the next four years going

1782
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 2: three and eight and trying to build the six and five,

1783
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 2: Or might go play for a team that I can

1784
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:25,759
Speaker 2: play for and try to challenge for a champion.

1785
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:27,640
Speaker 1: And that's part. Probably make more money, it's part of

1786
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 1: the roster building.

1787
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough, all right.

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01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 1: Coming up at a moment.

1789
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 2: We will take some more of your feedback via the

1790
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 2: fan text line of two three nine ten seven. You

1791
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,759
Speaker 2: can also call us up two three nine ten seventy

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01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 2: and coming up top of the hour. The head coach

1793
01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 2: of the Indiana Pacers, Rick Carlisle stops spy, it's all

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Speaker 2: straight ahead in ninety three five and one on seven

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Speaker 2: five to fan. I like this one. Mark gets you

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01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 2: up and moving today. James is up already, got my

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Speaker 2: head Bob in here. Still can't get over seeing Kevin

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01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,679
Speaker 2: without a hat on. It's not us esay, I honestly

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01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 2: we grow hair. Indy should be applauded. Man that got

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Speaker 2: a question for that. I like dreads underneath us hat.

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Speaker 1: That would be impressive.

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01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 6: I'd be looking at you a little like, hmm, those

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01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 6: are those implants and how does that?

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01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 4: How does that work? I do have a question for

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01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 4: you all though, thanks Giving related. So I think I'm

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01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 4: gonna try to make the drive back to Illinois and

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01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 4: see the family it, spend the night, and come back

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01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 4: Friday for the coach practice. Yeah, I mean, Jeff, I'm

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01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 4: celebrity in my family. I come home, everybody loves to

1810
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 4: see me. Okay, this ain't one of those Al James.

1811
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 4: People run and hug me. Okay, mother, god, kids, and

1812
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 4: my sister's like, you're not coming home from war? Why

1813
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 4: is everyone freaking out? She's a hater. But the rest

1814
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:42,560
Speaker 4: of the group usually acts accordingly, but in all seriousness.

1815
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 4: When as I asked an on serious question, when is

1816
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 4: the food done at your house?

1817
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:47,519
Speaker 5: When?

1818
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: When do you know?

1819
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,799
Speaker 4: Okay, I will be getting my plate ready and actually

1820
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:53,480
Speaker 4: eating Because my family.

1821
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 6: Shout out to the culture, they always say.

1822
01:19:58,120 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 4: All the food's gonna be down about three or four,

1823
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 4: that food ain't gonna be done.

1824
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 6: So I'll just show up whenever and you know, wait

1825
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,680
Speaker 6: for it to be finished, I say, just pre halftime

1826
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 6: of Cowboys game. So second game, and yes, I associate

1827
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 6: it with.

1828
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: The football it's on the TV.

1829
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, as you should.

1830
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:15,759
Speaker 1: I like that, And don we get we get usual

1831
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: acts right for these half for these Thanksgiving games. Usually

1832
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: I feel like it's usually a bigger production post alone

1833
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: for the for the half Cowboys, was it? Yes? So yeah,

1834
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,640
Speaker 1: usually I feel like it's right around there. You know,

1835
01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 1: I'm ready to just be done with watching the Cowboys,

1836
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,560
Speaker 1: and sure enough the food gets in my system and

1837
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: then I'm like, all right, let's lock back in for

1838
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter.

1839
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,880
Speaker 2: So one o'clock is Green Bay at Detroit. Four point

1840
01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 2: thirty is Kansas City at Dallas. Five eight twenty is

1841
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 2: Cincinnati at Baltimore.

1842
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 1: Here's a I.

1843
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 2: Don't know exactly what time it is in my house.

1844
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 2: I just know that whenever the food is done, my

1845
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 2: wife and I I get the look, and she and

1846
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 2: I are the last ones that are allowed to put

1847
01:20:55,560 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 2: anything on a plate. Oh that's that, So I get that.

1848
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: I kind of get that choice.

1849
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:03,719
Speaker 2: When I get that look, that's just how that goes.

1850
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 5: Right there.

1851
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 3: Now, we're usually eating because we usually had to like

1852
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 3: double dip and go to like both sides of the

1853
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 3: family and everything. So we would eat around like third

1854
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 3: quarter of the Lions game and then food just out

1855
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 3: the rest of the day. You're gonna have it. You

1856
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 3: can warm it up, whatever you want to do. So

1857
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 3: I think we're around that too. So yeah, we're ready

1858
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 3: to roll, usually around like one thirty two o'clock or

1859
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 3: something like that.

1860
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 6: So sanding to get the dike down.

1861
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 2: I will tell you this though. My brother in law

1862
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 2: came in last night and the first thing he did

1863
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 2: is make a bunch of pumpkin bread with icing on

1864
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 2: the top of it.

1865
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 1: Oh, let's go, man, I want to bring some in tomorrow.

1866
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 2: Maybe, Well, it depends on if there's any left by

1867
01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 2: the end of the day. You got two teenage boys

1868
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 2: in that house.

1869
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Wes asking if there is such thing as we

1870
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: grow dreads. Indeed, Wes, that made me laugh very very there.

1871
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:57,320
Speaker 2: Called extensions, aren't they?

1872
01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 6: You know what I about say? I think I think

1873
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 6: my hand can be it up. Am I to take

1874
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 6: you up on that?

1875
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 2: So the the.

1876
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 3: Halftime shows for all the all the NFL games, the

1877
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 3: Lions Packers game. This is produced by Eminem. It's the

1878
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 3: first year Eminem in the Lions of teamed up Jack White,

1879
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 3: a Detroit native, obviously from the White stripe. He is

1880
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 3: going to be doing that one post Malone is Cowboys,

1881
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 3: Chiefs and Bengals. Ravens is little John.

1882
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: Look at that. We're gonna be turning up a little bit.

1883
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 1: It sounds like on Thursday night, was Ferris Walker turned

1884
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 1: up last night? Are we? Is there something there? Or

1885
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 1: is this just a kind of string it together?

1886
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 2: Is the question.

1887
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 4: I think that there's something to build on there for sure.

1888
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 4: You know, you didn't play some not a guy that

1889
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 4: just said open shots. I actually thought that a few

1890
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:44,600
Speaker 4: of those shots were. They were open, but not like

1891
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 4: wide open. I mean he took some that were I

1892
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 4: was like, oh, there's a hand there.

1893
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 5: Now.

1894
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 6: Granted it was after he accounta was on a heater.

1895
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 4: But what I liked about his game yesterday was one

1896
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 4: it was against a legit opponent. No disrespect to the

1897
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,600
Speaker 4: Charlotte Hornets. They were got awful. I cannot stand and

1898
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 4: watch him play any basketball. Ever, So when you face

1899
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 4: the Pistons, best team in the conference and you perform

1900
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 4: like that, I think you can really say, Okay, this

1901
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 4: is what needs to look like against real opponents. Big

1902
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 4: time opponents and hopefully the opponents you see when you

1903
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 4: get hole in the foreseeable future down the line, next

1904
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 4: season or whatever, when you get Haliburn back. So I

1905
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 4: enjoyed what I saw, the decisiveness, the ability to make

1906
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 4: quick decisions and just make shots.

1907
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 6: Making shots solves a lot of problems.

1908
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 4: But beyond that, I enjoyed that he just wasn't fidgety,

1909
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 4: because sometimes when I watch Jeris, I'm like, do you

1910
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 4: know what you're gonna do when you get the ball?

1911
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 4: Do you have an idea? Because he can get sped up.

1912
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 4: I thought he was pretty calm collected yesterday and it

1913
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 4: translated to one of the best games you've seen him.

1914
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Speaker 1: Pays the pro Yeah, I thought the Pascal and by

1915
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: the way, Rick Carlisle joined us here in ten, I

1916
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 1: thought the Pascal siakam comments after the game kind of

1917
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 1: struck me and siakam Is, I mean, he's almost like this,

1918
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 1: you know, I view him like as his fortune teller,

1919
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 1: just kind of had his leadership role with this team.

1920
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: But he mentioned telling Jeris after the game, I don't

1921
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: even know how many times you dribbled in the game,

1922
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 1: And I think that was a comment alluding to decisiveness

1923
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,719
Speaker 1: and not necessarily just dribbling to dribble there quick thinking.

1924
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:13,360
Speaker 1: He did have a couple of nice takes to the

1925
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 1: rem You had a really nice one of the left hand.

1926
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 1: And if this season is going to sniff getting back

1927
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:22,800
Speaker 1: on the tracks, you have got to get better played

1928
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 1: from your bench. And last night they were very good.

1929
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 1: That was a very good bench performance. Not just Walker

1930
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: McConnell was vintage McConnell. He had one that you know,

1931
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: had Quinn Buckner blow a blown a gasket there, and

1932
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: I thought Jay Huff and Jeremia Robinson Earl even hit

1933
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: some shots. So you can't just have Thanksgiving plate times

1934
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 1: ten for Siakam mather and them hard. It's just too

1935
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: much for them to handle as the big three. And

1936
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: last night, you know you had Matherin' struggle, I thought,

1937
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,599
Speaker 1: efficiency wise and them hard. He's asking to do ten

1938
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: different things. He's struggling efficiency wise, and yet Mathern gets

1939
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: a great look to force an end overtime. I thought

1940
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:04,519
Speaker 1: he I thought he made it. Frankly, I thought, I

1941
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: think it was good.

1942
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 2: For a minute, it looked good.

1943
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 4: It felt like that was another one of those who

1944
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:10,680
Speaker 4: had a chance to ask Rick this, but was that

1945
01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 4: like a Jennie Boussex special look exactly like the Bucks

1946
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 4: play from running receivers Again, it worked out, got a

1947
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 4: good look, and I'm sure Benedict wish as he could

1948
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 4: have that one back.

1949
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 2: But I'm not mad at that play design or look

1950
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,040
Speaker 2: at all. All right, coming up at a moment, as mentioned,

1951
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:29,120
Speaker 2: the head coach of the Indiana Pacers stops by Rick Carlisle,

1952
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 2: will talk about the Pacers last night, what's ahead, and

1953
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 2: the rest of the season in general. As we continue

1954
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 2: on ninety three five and one oh seven five.

1955
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: To fay by nine o'clock hour on a Tuesday, Rick

1956
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:43,360
Speaker 1: Carlisle is going to join us here in a few minutes.

1957
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:45,679
Speaker 1: Just a reminder, it is an eight o'clock tip tonight

1958
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 1: inside of Assembly Hall. That is Indiana against Kansas State.

1959
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 1: I said to recall, was it Kansas State Florida Atlantic

1960
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 1: a few years ago to go to the final four?

1961
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: Was that our lead eight game? You remember that Kansas

1962
01:25:57,040 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 1: State point guard Noel?

1963
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 2: Yes, he was good, He's really good.

1964
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 1: He was one of those in tournament darlings we had there.

1965
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then Florida Liantic. Obviously I was telling you

1966
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 4: about that run that they had with my boy John L.

1967
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 4: Davis of Gary twenty first century.

1968
01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 1: They obviously got there with Dusty May So again I

1969
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 1: think important one for Indiana to night. Kansas State high

1970
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 1: scoring team. PJ. Haggerty has transferred there. Kansas State very

1971
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 1: similar in Indiana and a ton of transfers, and they

1972
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: have shot it well and they have scored at a

1973
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 1: high level. They did lose to Nebraska, that is their

1974
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:30,799
Speaker 1: lone loss. It was a close game, Kansas State losing

1975
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 1: that one, but eight and a half point favorite Indiana

1976
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 1: tonight inside of Assembly Hall. And then coming up in December,

1977
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 1: they'll go those back to back Saturdays with Louisville and

1978
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: Kentucky sprinkled around a couple of Big Ten games as

1979
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 1: the Big Ten has gone with the two games in

1980
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 1: December here before we get into major conference play. One

1981
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: thing to note too from the bucket if you missed

1982
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,719
Speaker 1: it earlier, Purdue is going to go with Ryan Brown

1983
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: as their starting quarterback. Burriioted Tom announce that yesterday they

1984
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: have played Malachai Singleton a lot, especially in that Washington

1985
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,599
Speaker 1: game last time out. Uh And then for Indiana, sounds

1986
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:12,560
Speaker 1: like Elijah Saratz and Mikhail Kamara both healthy for Indiana

1987
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 1: as they play that one twenty eight and a half.

1988
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: So that sound right, mark four touchdown favorites. Yeah, it

1989
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 1: sounds right, twenty eight and a half for Indiana.

1990
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Speaker 4: Just just don't get be like Illinois did Oh I

1991
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 4: think you're gonna say Syracuse.

1992
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, Now Syracuse is more embarrassing than Illinois. Let's

1993
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 1: not compare the two.

1994
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 4: No, I mean it's from like a Big ten, Big ten,

1995
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 4: god matchup, got it? But no, the Syracuse think was

1996
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 4: crazy because again they didn't. They allowed Notre Dame to

1997
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:46,759
Speaker 4: take a twenty one oh lead without the offense taking

1998
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 4: the field, and if had they not, you still would

1999
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 4: have won the game twenty one to seven. So that

2000
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 4: to me was bizarre. That was crazy. I'd never seen

2001
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 4: anything like that.

2002
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:59,600
Speaker 1: That's pretty wild. Like you imagine if Notre Dame is

2003
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 1: now you keep it your ball. This reminds me of

2004
01:28:03,880 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 1: a so you played some new one on one. You're

2005
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,760
Speaker 1: blowing them out so much a little kid. You're like, no, no, no,

2006
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 1: you have another possession. No.

2007
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 4: This reminds me of Jason Williams who used to play

2008
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 4: for the Mimmy Heat. And I think the Grizzlies back

2009
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 4: in the day White Great last player. Yeah, so he

2010
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 4: was saying he played a men's league recently. This might

2011
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 4: have been a maybe an interview from like a year ago,

2012
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 4: and he says his team is so good that when

2013
01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 4: they get up by a lot, they'll start shooting another

2014
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,600
Speaker 4: team's basket to give them a better score, and it

2015
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 4: just makes the other team so mad.

2016
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Speaker 2: And that's what it felt like Notre Dame needed to

2017
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 2: do for Syracuse.

2018
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 4: It's like, you know what, jeremilavve run the opposite way

2019
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 4: and go score for us, please, because they had absolutely

2020
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 4: no business being on the same field as them.

2021
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:43,440
Speaker 2: That was embarrassing.

2022
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 1: That's one of the meaner things that I've heard. I

2023
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 1: thought it was trolling genius again coming up this weekend

2024
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 1: again we got we'll get a tech for that. Yeah, honestly,

2025
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: should hey stop helping that team? Bucket game Friday night

2026
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,720
Speaker 1: seven forty five kick time there for in Indiana and

2027
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: then Saturday typically a great slate for college football. Reminder Friday,

2028
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:08,200
Speaker 1: we also we'll get the Black Friday Game. It'll be

2029
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 1: Bears and Eagles to eight and three football teams, right

2030
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:12,440
Speaker 1: Mark Dighton.

2031
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 3: Eight and three, the two and three seeds in the

2032
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 3: NFC as we stand right now.

2033
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 1: Gosh, that's pretty wild.

2034
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 4: I want to throw this out there for those listening

2035
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 4: and feel Fred texting in as well. If you know

2036
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 4: a big high school game with the boys season I

2037
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 4: believe has started off, and a lot of season openers.

2038
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 6: Tonight, hitch a boy up, I might pull up.

2039
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 1: I think tonight is Bed hosting Fishers, maybe t vice versa.

2040
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 4: See, yeah, you know what Fishers is like, always the

2041
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:39,680
Speaker 4: big game to start off the year.

2042
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 2: I went last year for season opener.

2043
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 4: So yeah, not as you've said that, that's that might

2044
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 4: be where I be around seven pm to night.

2045
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: I feel like when I was kind of growing up,

2046
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 1: it was always Pike North Central was always either the

2047
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 1: Tuesday or Wednesday pre Thanksgiving. I saw last night it

2048
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 1: was attics and Tech. Yeah, you don't get really, you

2049
01:29:56,840 --> 01:30:00,080
Speaker 1: don't often get a Monday high school game, but you

2050
01:30:00,120 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: got that there as obviously got high school football coming up.

2051
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 4: This This would be like the time of the year

2052
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 4: as a high school sports supporter where I just did

2053
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 4: not sleep because you got so much going on, got

2054
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:14,679
Speaker 4: boys and girls basketball. Yeah, and then you know Kyle

2055
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 4: Edden rep my boy ain't sleeping.

2056
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 1: Non rep is at basketball games this week. I'm always like, dude,

2057
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:20,919
Speaker 1: you are a machine.

2058
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 2: I know.

2059
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 1: Shout out to the goat clone him and clone Greg Gregstraw.

2060
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 1: Every high school market should have those individuals in their market. Uh,

2061
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 1: did Jonathan Taylor regret from Shane Stiken? If you had

2062
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 1: to call a one to ten meter on the amount

2063
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: of regrets that Shane Stiken has in the lack of

2064
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 1: fourth quarter Jonathan Taylor, you would go where.

2065
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 4: Maybe a four. I didn't think that he had more

2066
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:52,759
Speaker 4: regret than not. What was your take on it? Because

2067
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 4: him talking about it, Kevin, it felt like he was

2068
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,000
Speaker 4: pretty adamant that they should actually through the pass game,

2069
01:31:01,520 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 4: and he kept using the line like, well, Hinsi's twenty

2070
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 4: twenty and obviously we can go back and say we

2071
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 4: could have, would have, should have. It didn't happen, but

2072
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 4: I didn't since a greater than not sense of remorse

2073
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 4: from shant side.

2074
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably a number I would throw out there

2075
01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 1: if it sounded like the drive that started at Midfield

2076
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 1: they are with about four or five minutes to go,

2077
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:25,719
Speaker 1: the one where Daniel Jones threw it right to Kansas

2078
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:29,240
Speaker 1: City near interception. That was the one that he expressed

2079
01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 1: a little regret on more so from I think running

2080
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:36,799
Speaker 1: clock than a we need to give our best player

2081
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 1: the ball more. That's where it sounded like a little

2082
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:46,640
Speaker 1: bit more on the regret meter for him, so you know,

2083
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 1: he didn't really play the game. I think this is

2084
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: part of a coach and part of the running back

2085
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:54,639
Speaker 1: position is is it simply the position you play, whereas

2086
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:56,800
Speaker 1: if your best players are running back, if I put

2087
01:31:56,880 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: enough numbers in the box, you won't try to count

2088
01:31:59,920 --> 01:32:03,479
Speaker 1: that anyway, because I think that's what people are looking

2089
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 1: at the fourth quarter. Yeah, on Sunday, and I view

2090
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,719
Speaker 1: both things can be true, James, I view that Taylor

2091
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 1: should have got a few more carries and also Daniel

2092
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 1: Jones should have been better.

2093
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:17,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think to an extent, Kevin, we've harped

2094
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 4: on Shane Styching so much and rightfully so. But Daniel

2095
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 4: when the plays were there to be made, he did

2096
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 4: not make them. And this is a guy who after

2097
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 4: this season you will bring back you basically mortgage future,

2098
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 4: mortgage your future on him. So whether it's the franchise

2099
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,120
Speaker 4: tag or a new deal, you have to figure out

2100
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:38,559
Speaker 4: how much you want to pay that guy. And pay

2101
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,320
Speaker 4: him handsomely to be your quarterback. And if you're going

2102
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:43,760
Speaker 4: to do that, you'd like to have the trust to

2103
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 4: say in those moments he'll make those throws, because I

2104
01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 4: thought he missed on a couple of throws that he

2105
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 4: wishes he could have back. The one that Josh downs

2106
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 4: on that third down look like it was a miscommunication. Yeah,

2107
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 4: that was kind of miscommunication. With the one that he

2108
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:01,760
Speaker 4: missed to Michael Pittman Junior. I thought that one was

2109
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 4: more so about him just missing rather than a miscommunication.

2110
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 1: All right, let's head to the payloss Liquors hotline right now.

2111
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:11,599
Speaker 1: The Pacers the valued effort last night. Bennetic Maverag gets

2112
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 1: a shot in the corner, forced the game into overtime.

2113
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 1: Looked online honestly for me, the Pacers seem to dial

2114
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 1: up pretty good play in that time of the game.

2115
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:22,600
Speaker 1: They will be off North of the Border coming up

2116
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 1: later today. They'll take on the Raptors tomorrow night, one

2117
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 1: of the hottest teams in the Eastern Conference. So let's

2118
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 1: head to the Payloss Liquors hotline right now and chat with

2119
01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:32,000
Speaker 1: the head coach. He is Rick Carlisle coach. Good morning

2120
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 1: to you, how are you okay last night? The effort

2121
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 1: to get back in it. I thought it was one

2122
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:41,559
Speaker 1: of your better bench performances of the season. What do

2123
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: you see from some of those individuals, and just in general,

2124
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 1: you guys getting it to a point where you know,

2125
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 1: you obviously had a shot to force it in overtime.

2126
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, the second half was way better than the first half.

2127
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 10: You on, we gotta do better job at closing quarters.

2128
01:33:56,640 --> 01:34:00,160
Speaker 10: We had worked hard to get to lead back at

2129
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:02,639
Speaker 10: the end of the first and then had a couple

2130
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 10: of miscues that put us down I think three points,

2131
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:09,320
Speaker 10: and just you know, the ability to play from in

2132
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:13,880
Speaker 10: front is always important in NBA games. Second quarter was

2133
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 10: our bad quarter. We lost by thirteen, and so that

2134
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 10: got us, you know, a sixteen point deficit, and then

2135
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 10: you know, coming out of halftime, we just said, we said, look,

2136
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 10: let's let's go out there and win the first five

2137
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 10: minutes and then and then go from there and and

2138
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:36,320
Speaker 10: get ourselves back into this thing. And the guys fought hard.

2139
01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 10: We had we had a lot of good performances off

2140
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 10: the bench, as you mentioned, and gave ourselves a chance,

2141
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 10: but a disappointing ending and then you know, at nine

2142
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 10: seconds left. I mean, Ben misses, the Ben gets a

2143
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 10: good look in the corner, the shot misses, and Pascal

2144
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 10: goes up for the rebound and gets thrown to the floor.

2145
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,839
Speaker 10: And then there's a miss a miss.

2146
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 5: Well, there's a there's a no call of a foul

2147
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 5: that should have been called. And so that was that

2148
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 5: was disappointing too.

2149
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 10: But in stretches like this, you know a lot of

2150
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 10: things don't go your way and you just gotta you

2151
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 10: gotta stay positive and you got to keep slugging.

2152
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:21,560
Speaker 4: Rick to that point when you know you're going to

2153
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 4: get a two minute report that you might not like.

2154
01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 4: What's your reaction to just that part of it.

2155
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, we have a we have a rating system that

2156
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 10: comes out every day for every time there's a game,

2157
01:35:36,840 --> 01:35:42,639
Speaker 10: and you know that's that's an opportunity to reflect your

2158
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 10: your feelings about things and give h you know, give

2159
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 10: give the feedback. And so look, it's disappointing, but you

2160
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 10: know the referees they're not trying to miss calls.

2161
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 5: You know, it's just a it's.

2162
01:35:55,800 --> 01:36:02,640
Speaker 10: A men not machines proposition, A very difficult job. Thousands

2163
01:36:02,680 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 10: of events that happened over forty eight minutes with the clock,

2164
01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:09,519
Speaker 10: you know, ticking, and uh, you know, you got a

2165
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:14,080
Speaker 10: hope that you've you've stacked enough good plays to be

2166
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 10: able to absorb a situation like that. But you know,

2167
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 10: last night that was that was not the case. I

2168
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 10: I knew about it after the game. I didn't go

2169
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 10: into it with the media because you know, uh, yeah,

2170
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 10: right now, we can't just be into sour grapes. You know,

2171
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:32,639
Speaker 10: We've got to we've got to find ways to get

2172
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:34,599
Speaker 10: to get better each day.

2173
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 4: To that point, Rick, looking at the night that Jars

2174
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 4: Walker had, it was a very positive night for him overall.

2175
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,799
Speaker 4: What did you like about how he pick and shows

2176
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 4: his spots on both sides of the floor.

2177
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, one of his better games for sure, and shows

2178
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 10: what he's capable of. And uh, you know we need him.

2179
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:56,480
Speaker 10: I mean this is uh, this is a great opportunity

2180
01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 10: for him. I mean we've we've kind of the labored

2181
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:04,400
Speaker 10: that whole thing on this show many times and last

2182
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 10: night was terrific and he was a big reason we

2183
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 10: got back in the game.

2184
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle, with the Sarrogon Pacers North of the Border

2185
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 1: coming up tomorrow, it'll be the Toronto Raptors who've been

2186
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 1: very very good to start this season. And Rick is

2187
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 1: with U year on the payloss Slickers hot line. You

2188
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 1: started Andrew Demart on Kate Cunningham last night, coach, and

2189
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:22,760
Speaker 1: I know you talked about with us in the off

2190
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 1: season just how much you put on Andrew's plate. And

2191
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:26,680
Speaker 1: part of it is, frankly, I don't know how many

2192
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:28,720
Speaker 1: other options you have, but how do you kind of

2193
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 1: balance Andrew's defensive responsibilities right now with getting another ball

2194
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 1: handler at times on the floor with him to help

2195
01:37:34,920 --> 01:37:38,960
Speaker 1: him out offensively in all the responsibilities that you probably

2196
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:39,759
Speaker 1: need him to handle.

2197
01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:43,639
Speaker 5: Well, last night there was really no choice.

2198
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:47,760
Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, we have all the numbers of all

2199
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:51,679
Speaker 10: the guys that have guarded Cunningham and it's not even close.

2200
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 10: We had to have Andrew guard him, and so you know,

2201
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:58,479
Speaker 10: he did a tremendous job. And if you really watch

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01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,240
Speaker 10: the fourth quarter and all the things that were going

2203
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:03,920
Speaker 10: on on and off the ball, I mean, it was

2204
01:38:04,080 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 10: just it was a miraculous the way he was navigating

2205
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 10: over screens and everything else. And Cunningham still scored a

2206
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:14,120
Speaker 10: few baskets and a couple of times he got switches

2207
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 10: and scored, but some nights there just simply is no choice.

2208
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:25,440
Speaker 10: We may be able to alleviate, you know, the matchup situation,

2209
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:29,080
Speaker 10: maybe for short stretches during the game. I think Walker

2210
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 10: guarded him a little bit last night, but you know,

2211
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 10: counting him right now is you know, he's one of

2212
01:38:36,240 --> 01:38:38,760
Speaker 10: the top players in the world and you've got to

2213
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 10: have your best guy on him as best as often

2214
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 10: as you can.

2215
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 1: You said postgame last night that it's a hard league

2216
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 1: right now to score in. Is that with how the

2217
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,559
Speaker 1: game has been like officiated early in the season, what

2218
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:55,760
Speaker 1: you're seeing defensively, I was kind of curious if you

2219
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 1: had any more on that.

2220
01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 10: Right now, Well, we're having scoring so and look, I

2221
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:07,080
Speaker 10: mean right now with with our challenges, uh, you know,

2222
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:10,479
Speaker 10: from a personnel standardies and all that, we just got

2223
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:11,519
Speaker 10: to be really on point.

2224
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:15,680
Speaker 5: I mean, our defense has got to be tuned to.

2225
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:22,680
Speaker 10: Its best, its best version. We've got to be square

2226
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 10: and not getting our hands involved otherwise the other team

2227
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 10: marches to the bonus. And then you know, we we've

2228
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 10: got to avoid miscues on offense. You know, first half

2229
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:37,519
Speaker 10: last night, we had some really good opportunities and there

2230
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 10: were a couple of times we we threw the ball

2231
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 10: away and transition when when we had some space and

2232
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:47,759
Speaker 10: had some numbers and just just just made a play

2233
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:48,960
Speaker 10: that wasn't quite there.

2234
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 5: And so, you know, these things pile up quickly.

2235
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 10: And you know, a couple a couple of the wrong

2236
01:39:57,240 --> 01:40:00,559
Speaker 10: plays at the wrong time can take can take you

2237
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,400
Speaker 10: out of a very strong position.

2238
01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 5: And so but those are those are avoidable things.

2239
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 10: We'll keep looking at him and keep looking at ways

2240
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 10: to uh to get better with it.

2241
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 5: Rick.

2242
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 4: We saw an update from halla Burton share via his

2243
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 4: social media with him dunking using his right leg right Achilles.

2244
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:18,760
Speaker 5: Dad.

2245
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 4: He obviously rushed in Game seven of the finals. Your

2246
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 4: thoughts on the progress he's making throughout recovery.

2247
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 5: He's doing great, He's great.

2248
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 10: I mean he's he posted a thing Duncan a month

2249
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:33,599
Speaker 10: ago two I think that was off of two feet.

2250
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 10: I didn't see the one yesterday. But it's all it's

2251
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 10: all very very positive stuff, and it's, uh, it's a

2252
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 10: it's amazing, you know, the way guys can recover these

2253
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:49,720
Speaker 10: days with some of the medical and rehab advances, et cetera,

2254
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 10: et cetera. And he's in there bust in his butt

2255
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:56,680
Speaker 10: every single day, you know, So it's it's great to

2256
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 10: see and uh, you know, we'll look forward to having

2257
01:40:59,120 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 10: him back next year.

2258
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:02,639
Speaker 1: Pacers again in Toronto coming up tomorrow night. Then they'll

2259
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:04,799
Speaker 1: be at home. We get the tree lighting game on Friday.

2260
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:09,320
Speaker 1: It'll be Washington in Chicago coming up this weekend. Coach

2261
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 1: in general with Pascal this season and obviously the Tyres

2262
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:15,599
Speaker 1: loss I would assume is impacting this. How much more

2263
01:41:15,720 --> 01:41:19,479
Speaker 1: just doubling or attention? Are you seeing around how teams

2264
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 1: are defending Pascal Siakam.

2265
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:23,080
Speaker 5: Touns.

2266
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,360
Speaker 10: I mean, you know, he's he's getting double team in

2267
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:28,479
Speaker 10: the post. There was a play he cut the ball

2268
01:41:28,520 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 10: in the elbow last night and put it on the

2269
01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:33,719
Speaker 10: floor and then there were two or three guys swarming

2270
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:35,599
Speaker 10: and it turned into a jump ball or something.

2271
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:37,600
Speaker 5: And yeah, it's.

2272
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 10: It's uh, you know, we we've really gotta be on

2273
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 10: point with our spacing to give him room to operate.

2274
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 10: And and this is this is one of the things

2275
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:53,599
Speaker 10: that is important right now. We we gotta we've got

2276
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:58,719
Speaker 10: to play with the correct tempo for us by playing faster,

2277
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,599
Speaker 10: you know, we can, we can play in more space,

2278
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 10: et cetera.

2279
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:04,599
Speaker 5: But we can't.

2280
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:10,200
Speaker 10: We can't do that at the expense of unnecessary and

2281
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:14,720
Speaker 10: controllable turnovers, you know, and so in the case of

2282
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:20,679
Speaker 10: Andrew and Pascal, I mean, these are our two top

2283
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 10: guys right now and they're getting.

2284
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 5: A lot of attention. I mean you saw last night Sark.

2285
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:30,960
Speaker 10: Thompson is all over all over Andrew and yeah, really

2286
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 10: I thought to a point of excess.

2287
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 5: Referee didn't agree with me, but it was it was.

2288
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:42,559
Speaker 10: Over the top with physicality, and so you know, we've

2289
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:44,000
Speaker 10: got to try to protect those guys.

2290
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 1: Coach will end of this and obviously happy Thanksgiving to

2291
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:50,160
Speaker 1: you and the family. You know, annually the Pacers are

2292
01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:53,000
Speaker 1: super out in the community this time of year. We

2293
01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 1: saw Aaron E. Smith I think took over for host

2294
01:42:55,400 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 1: and the dinner you guys do there in the lobby.

2295
01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 1: I know Lloyd Pierce has got his Coat drive coming

2296
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:02,800
Speaker 1: up next week for you. The latest on Driving Dish.

2297
01:43:02,840 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 1: We've talked about the food insecurities around Marin County and

2298
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 1: even it's expanded outside of that here over the last

2299
01:43:09,080 --> 01:43:12,520
Speaker 1: year or so. What's new with driving Dish.

2300
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 10: Well, I've mentioned that, you know, last summer we got

2301
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:20,599
Speaker 10: an amazing amount of support from Ownership. They put ten

2302
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 10: million into the program to assure that it goes on

2303
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 10: for a long time. It has expanded outside Indianapolis. We've

2304
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:34,600
Speaker 10: raised more money each year, and we streamlined the program

2305
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 10: so it's at its most efficient version ever and we're

2306
01:43:38,680 --> 01:43:41,080
Speaker 10: very proud of it. And you know, this time of

2307
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:46,640
Speaker 10: year is when it's really important because Indiana does not

2308
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:51,320
Speaker 10: have a food shortage, but the people that need food

2309
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:57,640
Speaker 10: suffer because the logistics are challenging, and so driving dish

2310
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 10: facilitates the logistics that bring food to people that need it.

2311
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 10: So we're very happy about that and we hope people

2312
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 10: take advantage of it.

2313
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 1: Do you have a must have a must go to

2314
01:44:08,439 --> 01:44:10,400
Speaker 1: on the plate of Rick Carlisle for Thanksgiving?

2315
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 7: Uh?

2316
01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:16,720
Speaker 10: Pretty much basic stuff. Justly request they have is that's

2317
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 10: the pumpkin pie?

2318
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 5: Is chilled?

2319
01:44:19,640 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 1: No chilled pumpkin pie? Are you a whipped cream action?

2320
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:25,800
Speaker 5: Yeah? Sure, why not?

2321
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 1: Why not?

2322
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 6: That's usually the reaction right on thanks again?

2323
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 5: Why not?

2324
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:31,680
Speaker 1: Why not? You know at that point you might as

2325
01:44:31,720 --> 01:44:34,360
Speaker 1: well throw that on top. Pacers up in Toronto coming

2326
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:36,759
Speaker 1: up tomorrow and again home games this weekend with Washington

2327
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:40,320
Speaker 1: and Chicago. Coach safe travels and appreciate the time. Happy Thanksgiving.

2328
01:44:40,960 --> 01:44:42,400
Speaker 5: Okay, likewise, guys, take care.

2329
01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle pay Less Liquors hotline must chilled right on

2330
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 1: the pumpkin pie cardinal sin.

2331
01:44:48,479 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 3: If not, you're talking room temperature pie. No, thank you.

2332
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:53,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's.

2333
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 6: Got to be chilling if it's pumpkin Yes.

2334
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 1: Mark's Wagoner's finger to his grandma, room tap. Take that back.

2335
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:00,439
Speaker 1: As I tick my fee enough.

2336
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:02,280
Speaker 3: To watch the Cowboys fourth quarter, I'd like to send

2337
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:02,920
Speaker 3: this back play.

2338
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, if you guys are like me, I

2339
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:07,679
Speaker 4: just avoid the kitchen because there's always a lot going

2340
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:10,680
Speaker 4: on on Thanksgiving even Christmas or around the holidays, and

2341
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 4: I'm just like, you know, call you boy when the

2342
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 4: food is ready, otherwise I'll get on somebody's nerves.

2343
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 1: Mark to Grandma, I acknowledge the room step at your

2344
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 1: pumpkin pie, but I don't respect them. I don't respect them.

2345
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:21,960
Speaker 6: I feel we need a shirt with that on there

2346
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 6: or something.

2347
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:26,560
Speaker 1: Thank you to Rick Carlisle for that. Thank you to

2348
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:31,120
Speaker 1: Cluster Truck CET fan. If you've got the tailgate special

2349
01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 1: coming up Saturday and Sunday, you will absolutely love it.

2350
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:36,800
Speaker 1: Here twenty nine inety five was STI Fan First Off

2351
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:39,639
Speaker 1: gets you five dollars off your order, but the tailgate special,

2352
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,479
Speaker 1: two large pizzas, two pounds of chicken tenders. Great if

2353
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 1: you're with family and friends this weekend. From a football standpoint,

2354
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 1: if you're at Lucas Ohlo Stadium coming up doing a

2355
01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 1: little tailgate action on Sunday, you'll have no regrets with that.

2356
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 1: To thank you as always to Cluster Truck.

2357
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 4: But you know what it won't get you, unfortunately, the

2358
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:59,840
Speaker 4: great smells of Evan Cheryl, the best smelling man in Indiana.

2359
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:02,640
Speaker 1: Man just walked in studio and as Rick Carlisle was

2360
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 1: talking about the aroma of chilled pumpkin pie, you just

2361
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:07,280
Speaker 1: smell the what is it? The hugo boss? I know,

2362
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:11,959
Speaker 1: coming off of Evan Cheryl. Mister Cheryl lucky a lucky woman.

2363
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 6: Shot out the ball State Church chart.

2364
01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 3: Check.

2365
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 1: Should we check it out?

2366
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 5: Mark?

2367
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 2: Sure? I know what you guys are talking about. All

2368
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:28,800
Speaker 2: I smell is uh, oh Lord, All I smell is

2369
01:46:28,840 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 2: the broccoli at steak. That's it, man, beef and broccoli.

2370
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:34,599
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, when beef and broccoli enters the studio,

2371
01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 1: I'm afraid something's gone the night here. So there is

2372
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:40,599
Speaker 1: desk moves up a little bit, is what you're saying,

2373
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 1: I backed my chair a little bit more away from

2374
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 1: the middle. Here catch my drift.

2375
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 2: Everybody wins last night, he's you heard just a moment ago.

2376
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:50,559
Speaker 2: The Detroit Pistons a little bit better than the Indiana Pacers.

2377
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 2: One twenty two seventeen was the final score. Pacers had

2378
01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 2: a chance to tie it up late in the contest

2379
01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:58,600
Speaker 2: in the last ten seconds, but a wayward three by

2380
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:00,799
Speaker 2: Benedict Mather. Actually it looked like it was on target

2381
01:47:00,920 --> 01:47:01,799
Speaker 2: for most.

2382
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:05,200
Speaker 1: Of the time, showing behind cash. I thought he made

2383
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:07,360
Speaker 1: it there. A hell of a play call, very reminiscent

2384
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 1: to the four point play Tyres had last year in

2385
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:11,760
Speaker 1: front of the Bucks bench there and really just a

2386
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:14,599
Speaker 1: weird Pacer game. We're used to the bench not carrying

2387
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:17,040
Speaker 1: their weight the bench. I thought I did more than

2388
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:20,839
Speaker 1: enough last night there. But you know, again, at this point,

2389
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:23,120
Speaker 1: as the state of the Pacers is the fact that

2390
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:24,680
Speaker 1: they got it to a clutch game against the best

2391
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:26,720
Speaker 1: team in the East, you probably tip your hat.

2392
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:27,040
Speaker 7: Yep.

2393
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 2: K Cunningham looked terrific twenty four points, eleven rebounds. Pacers

2394
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 2: were led by Pascal Siakam with twenty four points. Jeris

2395
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:35,559
Speaker 2: Walker played well He had twenty one points in that

2396
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 2: loss last night. Next two games will be NBA Cup games.

2397
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:42,639
Speaker 2: Cleveland Cavaliers losing to Toronto last night one ten ninety nine. Toronto,

2398
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 2: now waiting for the Pacers to show up for the

2399
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 2: next game Wednesday night. You'll hear it live right here

2400
01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:49,400
Speaker 2: on ninety three five. And when I was seven to

2401
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:53,080
Speaker 2: five to the fan college basketball last night, Kansas sod

2402
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:55,760
Speaker 2: a Notre Dame seventy one sixty one. Kevin, I'll just

2403
01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:57,040
Speaker 2: let that go without comment.

2404
01:47:57,160 --> 01:47:59,320
Speaker 1: Is that all right? Okay?

2405
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 2: So what we're doing right there. Notre Dame will try

2406
01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 2: again today they'll be playing Wreckers. Also, Las Vegas shot

2407
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 2: at that bad That was a great opportunity.

2408
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:10,759
Speaker 1: We shot it like just dogs.

2409
01:48:11,439 --> 01:48:14,240
Speaker 2: Indiana will be at home tonight. They'll be hosting Kansas

2410
01:48:14,240 --> 01:48:16,760
Speaker 2: State this evening, so looking forward to that.

2411
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:17,920
Speaker 1: Indianapolis coach.

2412
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:21,040
Speaker 2: They will be taking on the Houston Texans Sunday afternoon

2413
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 2: at one o'clock all of a sudden, the very key

2414
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 2: AFC South matchup and the Tamiko Ryans is the head

2415
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 2: coach for the Houston Texans. He had this to say

2416
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 2: about the horseshoet.

2417
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:30,800
Speaker 5: Tyler Warren is it.

2418
01:48:31,479 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 11: You know, he's a he's a playmaker, man, that's wherever

2419
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 11: you get this kid at the ball, Like he's explosive,

2420
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 11: a little faster than anything, tougher than anything like he

2421
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 11: And he showed that at Penn State like he was he.

2422
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 5: Was a one man recon crew.

2423
01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 11: Like he did a really nice job at Penn State.

2424
01:48:47,479 --> 01:48:49,719
Speaker 11: And it's carried over here to the league. He's still

2425
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 11: doing a nice job. And you can see they're trying

2426
01:48:52,040 --> 01:48:53,800
Speaker 11: to put him in, put him in spots to get

2427
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:56,320
Speaker 11: him the football because he is that type of guy.

2428
01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:58,920
Speaker 11: He's a playmaker, a guy seems like you can trust,

2429
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:01,439
Speaker 11: you can count on him, Like he continues to show

2430
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 11: a play out to play down at the down for

2431
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:03,840
Speaker 11: those guys.

2432
01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:06,599
Speaker 2: All right, So he's worried about Tyler Warren going into

2433
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 2: that game on Sunday, Yeah.

2434
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:11,280
Speaker 1: Colts can be worried about Nico Collins, Saneil Hunter, Will

2435
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:14,760
Speaker 1: Anderson Junior, that pass rush duo third and fourth individually

2436
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:16,720
Speaker 1: in the league right now in sacks and again, as

2437
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier in the show, Collins is absolutely

2438
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:21,679
Speaker 1: towards the Colts. So we'll hit on it again tomorrow.

2439
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 1: But what a massive, massive, AFC South game. Obviously, we'll

2440
01:49:25,880 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 1: have coverage right here on the fan. You'll get Iron

2441
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:31,599
Speaker 1: Eagle JJ WATT with this matchup here coming up Sunday

2442
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 1: at one o'clock.

2443
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 2: Our coverage, so it's begin at ten am with the

2444
01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 2: ride to kick off JMV and of course the network

2445
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 2: pregame takes over at ten am and right nine am.

2446
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:42,960
Speaker 2: I say ten nine am for for Johnna Bulls Eye,

2447
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:46,240
Speaker 2: and then ten o'clock for the network programming college football

2448
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 2: this weekend before we get to Sunday, Indiana will be

2449
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:50,720
Speaker 2: on the road Friday night to take on Purdue. I

2450
01:49:50,720 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 2: believe they call that the bucket game.

2451
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 5: James Boyd.

2452
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, they'll need a lot of help to even remain

2453
01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:59,479
Speaker 4: in that game. Goal for Friday night bucket game, the

2454
01:49:59,479 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 4: Pdue boil Makers just don't lose by as much as

2455
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 4: Illinois did.

2456
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:06,080
Speaker 1: It's mark who you'll got the money line? What would

2457
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:08,639
Speaker 1: a ten dollars Perdue win? Bet net?

2458
01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:11,320
Speaker 2: You okay, give me a sick a mansion in LA

2459
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:13,479
Speaker 2: while he's looking that up. Ball State will finish their

2460
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 2: MECA schedule against Miami of Ohio at noon. Division two

2461
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:20,560
Speaker 2: playoffs feature in Minnesota State at Indianapolis Division three playoffs

2462
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:24,440
Speaker 2: had over goes against North Central Depaw taking on u W. Whitewater,

2463
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 2: also in Division three.

2464
01:50:26,120 --> 01:50:26,880
Speaker 1: And I know Marry and.

2465
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:29,599
Speaker 2: I believe as a as a buy in the first

2466
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:31,360
Speaker 2: round of I a playoff.

2467
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:33,240
Speaker 3: Ten dollars on Purdue will net you two hundred and

2468
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:34,400
Speaker 3: forty big ones.

2469
01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:39,000
Speaker 2: Wow, wow, save your ten bucks is.

2470
01:50:39,000 --> 01:50:42,360
Speaker 1: What I And then how about ten dollars on IU.

2471
01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:41,639
Speaker 5: I think.

2472
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 3: The sports books money. If you bet that you get,

2473
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 3: you get ten whole cents, ten cents, ten cents.

2474
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:52,600
Speaker 1: So ten dollars to win, ten cents if Indiana's victorious,

2475
01:50:52,760 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 1: and ten dollars to win two forty their new Pete's

2476
01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 1: carried off the field.

2477
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 2: Unbelievable Monday Night football. Last night, San Francisco finished up

2478
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 2: Week twelve with a win over the Carolina Panthers twenty

2479
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:08,760
Speaker 2: to nine. Brock Perty threw three first half interceptions and

2480
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:10,800
Speaker 2: the Panthers just couldn't take full advantage of that.

2481
01:51:10,920 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bryce, youong had a horrific pick and the end

2482
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:16,560
Speaker 1: zone there, So yeah, forty nine ers. They'll come to

2483
01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:18,639
Speaker 1: Lucasolo State and that'll be the next home game. Weirdly,

2484
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 1: the Colts just seemingly don't play at home anymore. They

2485
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 1: will on Sunday, but then they'll have what two games

2486
01:51:24,200 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 1: on the road after that, Jacksonville and Seattle Monday nighter,

2487
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:30,559
Speaker 1: December twenty second Colts and forty nine Ers.

2488
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:32,760
Speaker 2: Christian mccaffy is still a pretty good football players eighty

2489
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 2: nine yards and a touchdown rushing last night. He added

2490
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 2: seven catches for fifty three yards as well. He just

2491
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:39,200
Speaker 2: seems to be in the middle of everything. He is

2492
01:51:39,320 --> 01:51:39,879
Speaker 2: the offense.

2493
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 1: I've always been a fan of Missus McCaffrey. You mentioned

2494
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:47,040
Speaker 1: that earlier off the air. I think James, you go

2495
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 1: after him.

2496
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:49,920
Speaker 3: It's two woos, one for Evans Cheryl, one for Christian

2497
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 3: McCaffrey's wife.

2498
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 2: Not bad, all right, Anything else you guys want to

2499
01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:58,000
Speaker 2: throw in right here, right.

2500
01:51:57,920 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 1: Now, just go over to Thanks you slate again coming up.

2501
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:03,120
Speaker 1: I think it's a great, great slate. You've got Green

2502
01:52:03,160 --> 01:52:05,639
Speaker 1: Bay in Detroit to start things off on Thursday, Chiefs

2503
01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:09,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys Suck Colds. Fans I think are cheering for the Cowboys,

2504
01:52:09,320 --> 01:52:11,639
Speaker 1: and then the night game it'll be the Ravens deleting

2505
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 1: the AFC North And it sounds like the return of

2506
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:17,720
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow credits a shout out Joe Burrow. I mean,

2507
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:20,040
Speaker 1: the Bengals are all but done and here he is

2508
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 1: coming back to play. He wants to play, and like

2509
01:52:22,680 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 1: this toe injury was supposed to be I think, like

2510
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 1: a more of a mid late December thing, and here

2511
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:29,200
Speaker 1: he is back. Thanksgiving nights. So nice little slate there.

2512
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:31,800
Speaker 1: And then Mark's Bears and the Eagles Friday. Is that

2513
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 1: three o'clock, Mark? I think, so it's a weird time.

2514
01:52:34,840 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 1: It's a weird one. It is three pm, three pm,

2515
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:39,160
Speaker 1: so you could get that leading in then too, the

2516
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 1: Bucket game.

2517
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:41,680
Speaker 3: There you go, sign me up.

2518
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,519
Speaker 2: Looking forward to State High School Championship AACKS this weekend.

2519
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:47,519
Speaker 2: I will have on radio the six eight game between

2520
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 2: Brownsburg and Westill. Had a chance to speak to the

2521
01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:53,040
Speaker 2: two head coaches yesterday, John Hart and Josh Miracle. Really

2522
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 2: looking forward to seeing that. Should be a really good

2523
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:57,360
Speaker 2: game Westrill. As you know, Kevin, they've come close the

2524
01:52:57,479 --> 01:52:59,599
Speaker 2: last couple of times against browns Burg, but not quite

2525
01:52:59,600 --> 01:53:00,000
Speaker 2: over the whole.

2526
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:03,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, return of Deacon King should be big for Westfield.

2527
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 1: There they've had obviously the Carmeal game was wild, but yeah,

2528
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:09,760
Speaker 1: you would think some revenge on their minds against their

2529
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:11,759
Speaker 1: HC brethren.

2530
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:14,600
Speaker 2: Usually it's me, but before the segment's over, Kevin's the

2531
01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:18,160
Speaker 2: one going to retrieve the cluster truck order right there.

2532
01:53:18,160 --> 01:53:20,639
Speaker 2: I like that, and you put it on the floor.

2533
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:22,559
Speaker 1: I love me some cluster truck. He wore the hat

2534
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 1: today too, Thank you, Evan. True.

2535
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:27,360
Speaker 2: All right, coming up at a moment, we'll talk more

2536
01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 2: about the cults and what they have to get done

2537
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 2: and the rest of the NFL. Where do they fit

2538
01:53:31,160 --> 01:53:34,160
Speaker 2: now in the AFC with losing two of their last

2539
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 2: three and some of the other teams trying to pick

2540
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 2: it up. We'll do it next as we continue ninety

2541
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:42,479
Speaker 2: three and one seven five. Kevin, I will never be

2542
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:47,160
Speaker 2: mad at Evan Cheryl for anything ever, forever, for any

2543
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:49,760
Speaker 2: for any reason whatsoever. Like it's he can, he can.

2544
01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:51,360
Speaker 1: This is good, good stuff.

2545
01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:53,920
Speaker 3: Evan remove his his item from the menu. Let's see

2546
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 3: if that's still holds true. I've had a statement.

2547
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:59,400
Speaker 4: I've had he or the entire pizza that one time,

2548
01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 4: bringing back those college days.

2549
01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:06,120
Speaker 2: I've had pizza, I've had raps, I've had salads. I

2550
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:07,320
Speaker 2: like the Korean.

2551
01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:10,200
Speaker 1: CT fan again. Thank you to clust your truck. I

2552
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:14,160
Speaker 1: highly encourage well weekend action here the tailgate special on

2553
01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:18,519
Speaker 1: football weekends. That's two large pizzas, two pounds of chicken tenders.

2554
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 1: You will thank me later.

2555
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 6: Was that Joel Santana?

2556
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 2: Yes, it was.

2557
01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:26,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, funny enough, Mark, I believe I watched the clip

2558
01:54:26,439 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 4: yesterday where Duel Santana, the rapper, was talking about how

2559
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:32,920
Speaker 4: reading isn't that important in life.

2560
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:36,400
Speaker 3: And I got disappointed. Maybe that song stuck out in mind.

2561
01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.

2562
01:54:37,120 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 4: Thinking, boy, the idiocy we passed into the youth these days.

2563
01:54:42,840 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 3: That upsets now that you mention it. That's probably why

2564
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 3: that song you could have. Why did I see that name?

2565
01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 3: Why does it resonating?

2566
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 4: I know I said that you could have chat GPT

2567
01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:55,440
Speaker 4: read your contract because people were like, wait, wait a second,

2568
01:54:55,480 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 4: you have to read your contract to a musician. He's like,

2569
01:54:57,560 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 4: you could have put it into chat GPT and they'll

2570
01:54:59,360 --> 01:54:59,880
Speaker 4: tell you what to do.

2571
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm not a transition from idios seed to anything else

2572
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 1: but jeff Ricords comments of Ady Mitchell's catches this season.

2573
01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 1: Let's go add into the count, Mark Dykton, do we

2574
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 1: have an update on that? Into the Count? The Jets

2575
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:15,879
Speaker 1: played this weekend? Right, Ady Mitchell was in the lineup.

2576
01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 3: He was in the lineup. He had two more catches

2577
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:21,840
Speaker 3: for forty two yards, two targeted seven times. We had

2578
01:55:21,880 --> 01:55:26,000
Speaker 3: two catches on seven targets two catches closer, reaching a

2579
01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 3: season total of twelve receptions for four yards no touchdowns.

2580
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 1: Can you do the voice twelve? Well, twelve, Yeah.

2581
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:36,760
Speaker 3: The number does go that high.

2582
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 1: You know, we're getting this debate of you know, NFL seasons,

2583
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:42,080
Speaker 1: how long they're going to be able to stretch to

2584
01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:45,120
Speaker 1: eighteen games. Jeff's going to need that Ellie daily Cruz

2585
01:55:45,440 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 1: length of an NFL schedule. Adie Mitchell's going to reach.

2586
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:50,200
Speaker 2: Just need ten catches a game will be good.

2587
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:52,360
Speaker 1: Eighty catches here be good.

2588
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:55,840
Speaker 2: He's on his way, always injured. Indiana has written me

2589
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:59,480
Speaker 2: up on the social media Kevin and said, can pacers

2590
01:55:59,560 --> 01:56:02,280
Speaker 2: keV work his magic, can get the Colts their picks back?

2591
01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:05,360
Speaker 2: He wants he wants the other Kevin to get that done.

2592
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:07,240
Speaker 2: Maybe he can work with Chris ballor we can get

2593
01:56:07,240 --> 01:56:09,560
Speaker 2: our picks back after trading them all.

2594
01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:12,280
Speaker 1: What do you think people upset about the Sauce Gardner

2595
01:56:12,280 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 1: trade or is that more of a Daniel Jones big

2596
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:15,360
Speaker 1: picture concern.

2597
01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 2: I think that's probably more of a Daniel jones big

2598
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:21,240
Speaker 2: picture concern. I think Sauce Gardiner will settle in and

2599
01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:24,920
Speaker 2: be fine. But the point of that deal was is

2600
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:26,840
Speaker 2: you're kind of going all in for the next couple

2601
01:56:26,880 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 2: of years because you think you got the quarterback right, correct.

2602
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:31,520
Speaker 1: Yep, that was a big part of the big part

2603
01:56:31,560 --> 01:56:32,040
Speaker 1: of the trade.

2604
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:36,440
Speaker 2: How are we feeling about that now, just a couple

2605
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 2: of weeks later. I think there's a lot to be

2606
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:39,160
Speaker 2: done yet.

2607
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think even before the trade, I think I

2608
01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:45,520
Speaker 1: don't know if anyone was acting like Daniel Jones' is

2609
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 1: you know, hey, erect the Manning statue or move the

2610
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:51,800
Speaker 1: Manning statue to the south side of Lucas after Daniel

2611
01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:54,200
Speaker 1: Jones went out front. But I think it's one of

2612
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:57,760
Speaker 1: the more difficult things NFL teams go through. Do you

2613
01:56:57,800 --> 01:57:01,840
Speaker 1: have Ryan Tannehill or do you have Baker Mayfield? You know, like,

2614
01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:02,600
Speaker 1: what do you have?

2615
01:57:03,160 --> 01:57:05,360
Speaker 2: And when you had Baker Mayfield, which Baker Mayfield? Did

2616
01:57:05,400 --> 01:57:06,000
Speaker 2: you have a right?

2617
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:08,400
Speaker 1: And Baker Mayfield went to what four teams before you

2618
01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:13,800
Speaker 1: found a home in Tampa. So in that position finding

2619
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:15,920
Speaker 1: a guy nervous if you get rid of that guy,

2620
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 1: do you have a guy? Yeah, all of it is

2621
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:21,760
Speaker 1: just so difficult, and it's what makes a position so special,

2622
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:23,760
Speaker 1: why it makes the amount of money that they do.

2623
01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:26,280
Speaker 1: And if you look at the AFC as a whole,

2624
01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:29,920
Speaker 1: the last two years we've had the same four quarterbacks

2625
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:34,800
Speaker 1: in the Final four, and as this season has played out,

2626
01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 1: there has been a little bit of a rising to

2627
01:57:36,840 --> 01:57:37,160
Speaker 1: the crop.

2628
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 5: Now.

2629
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to say that about Houston, C. J. Stroud,

2630
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 1: although I think stroudw and healthy has been fine. But

2631
01:57:41,560 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 1: like here comes Lamar Jackson, the Ravens here it comes

2632
01:57:43,840 --> 01:57:46,040
Speaker 1: from Homes and the Chiefs, you know, Allen and the

2633
01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:49,120
Speaker 1: Bills are still hanging around. It'll be interesting to see

2634
01:57:49,120 --> 01:57:51,160
Speaker 1: if we get new blood in the final four. Right now,

2635
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:54,360
Speaker 1: from a standing standpoint, we will, but those quarterbacks are

2636
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:57,280
Speaker 1: just lurking, lurking, especially in the wildcard round.

2637
01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:58,960
Speaker 2: And they're struggling this year too. But Joe Burrow's not

2638
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:01,680
Speaker 2: going anywhere either. I do think that at some point

2639
01:58:01,680 --> 01:58:04,320
Speaker 2: Cincinnati will get its act together down the road in

2640
01:58:04,360 --> 01:58:06,760
Speaker 2: the next year or two and be a formidable opposent

2641
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:10,040
Speaker 2: for folks. God bless you, Jeff. I believe in Joe

2642
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:11,400
Speaker 2: Burrow and I believe in that franchise.

2643
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:13,440
Speaker 1: It might be a new coaching staff. Yeah, I think that.

2644
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:15,200
Speaker 2: They're one of the dumber teams in the league. I'm

2645
01:58:15,240 --> 01:58:17,040
Speaker 2: just saying they got a guy. I would always rather

2646
01:58:17,080 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 2: build around a guy like Joe Burrow than not have

2647
01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:20,880
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow to build around his many facts. And I

2648
01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 2: agree with that.

2649
01:58:21,600 --> 01:58:22,520
Speaker 1: Maybe it'll all work out.

2650
01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:24,720
Speaker 3: James have some positivity.

2651
01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 4: No, I agree with you on Joe Burrow. But boy,

2652
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 4: that that franchise the way do you think is just

2653
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 4: dumb in my opinion. But anyways, as far as the

2654
01:58:30,840 --> 01:58:35,160
Speaker 4: Colts go, yeah, to just point about quarterback play and

2655
01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 4: where you're at as far as the trade and maybe

2656
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:43,280
Speaker 4: some trepidation that fans are feeling about it. In the

2657
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:46,040
Speaker 4: back of my mind after Sunday's game, in three of

2658
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:49,280
Speaker 4: the last formaces that we've seen from Daniel Jones, I'm like, hmm,

2659
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:53,520
Speaker 4: should the franchise tag.

2660
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:55,960
Speaker 6: Be a little bit more of a tool being used

2661
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:57,320
Speaker 6: for this team?

2662
01:58:57,720 --> 01:59:00,800
Speaker 1: And you said because length of the contract verse, yes,

2663
01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:01,640
Speaker 1: how much money.

2664
01:59:01,640 --> 01:59:04,520
Speaker 4: Getting because you have some time, you have the opportunity,

2665
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:07,080
Speaker 4: and I get that you basically mortgage future on Daniel Jones,

2666
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:10,360
Speaker 4: but still you have some wiggle room here before you

2667
01:59:10,480 --> 01:59:13,520
Speaker 4: jump fully into the deep end and say this is

2668
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:14,880
Speaker 4: our guy, and a lot of people who are saying, like,

2669
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:17,680
Speaker 4: the franchise tag is forty six million dollars next year,

2670
01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:23,520
Speaker 4: that's a projected worth, but exactly, and you get another

2671
01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:25,440
Speaker 4: chance to see can you run this back?

2672
01:59:25,480 --> 01:59:26,480
Speaker 6: Can you sustain this?

2673
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 4: Because you don't want to be in a position where

2674
01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:36,480
Speaker 4: you give him a lucrative long extension and you're looking

2675
01:59:36,560 --> 01:59:38,040
Speaker 4: up a year from now and saying, you know what

2676
01:59:38,080 --> 01:59:40,800
Speaker 4: the Daniel Jones saw the last three games, that's more

2677
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:42,480
Speaker 4: of the guy what you've seen versus the one we

2678
01:59:42,480 --> 01:59:44,280
Speaker 4: saw the verse eight games. Now, I do believe he's

2679
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 4: been a better player here and there are some ways

2680
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:50,400
Speaker 4: he could be better going forward, but that's in the

2681
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 4: back of my mind now, like three games is not

2682
01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:55,840
Speaker 4: just a blip anymore. I'm starting to think, like, have

2683
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:57,920
Speaker 4: teams kind of figured you out? And is this your

2684
01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:01,920
Speaker 4: new baseline? Where again, he was isn't necessarily bad in

2685
02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:04,320
Speaker 4: my opinion overall on Sunday. He was bad in the

2686
02:00:04,360 --> 02:00:08,440
Speaker 4: second half and late. But if two touchdowns, no picks,

2687
02:00:08,440 --> 02:00:10,560
Speaker 4: no sacks, but not be able to make game winning plays,

2688
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:12,440
Speaker 4: is that enough for me to say I want to

2689
02:00:12,440 --> 02:00:14,000
Speaker 4: give you the.

2690
02:00:13,960 --> 02:00:16,400
Speaker 3: Future James says, the first eight games he was chilled

2691
02:00:16,400 --> 02:00:19,280
Speaker 3: pumpkin pie. The last three he was room temperature. Take

2692
02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:20,240
Speaker 3: this back, that's what.

2693
02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:23,200
Speaker 1: I signed off by Rick Carl taste is good.

2694
02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:26,640
Speaker 4: So that is a question that I seriously have, is

2695
02:00:27,000 --> 02:00:29,480
Speaker 4: we've heard all these chatter, all these reports about oh,

2696
02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:33,600
Speaker 4: they're already talking about extension, extension, the contract negotiates is eh,

2697
02:00:34,400 --> 02:00:35,760
Speaker 4: you can put up the brakes a little bit.

2698
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:37,720
Speaker 1: No, I'm not in my head at a lot of

2699
02:00:37,720 --> 02:00:41,600
Speaker 1: what you're saying right now, particularly just the commitment to him.

2700
02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:43,520
Speaker 1: You know, draft pick wise, you probably have committed to

2701
02:00:43,560 --> 02:00:47,440
Speaker 1: him for multiple years. But again, financially, you don't necessarily

2702
02:00:48,560 --> 02:00:51,160
Speaker 1: have to do that. Who do you, guys, if you

2703
02:00:51,200 --> 02:00:53,800
Speaker 1: take the location of next week's game out of the

2704
02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:58,280
Speaker 1: equation aka Jacksonville, where this team hasn't won in a decade,

2705
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:00,720
Speaker 1: who fears you more? The Texans at six and five

2706
02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:01,920
Speaker 1: of the Jags at seven and four.

2707
02:01:03,320 --> 02:01:07,000
Speaker 2: Texans, that defense is for real, and you get a

2708
02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:11,280
Speaker 2: little bit of offense with CJ. Stroud getting healthy, that

2709
02:01:11,320 --> 02:01:13,640
Speaker 2: could be a tough team to deal with. Defense travels,

2710
02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:19,080
Speaker 2: defense plays, defense keeps you in games. I might go

2711
02:01:19,160 --> 02:01:20,080
Speaker 2: with the Jaguars.

2712
02:01:20,360 --> 02:01:23,440
Speaker 6: I just don't know what it is about LEA because

2713
02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:25,560
Speaker 6: they're a game up and I think they're just a

2714
02:01:25,600 --> 02:01:27,760
Speaker 6: tough team and that's not an identity that I think

2715
02:01:27,800 --> 02:01:30,760
Speaker 6: that they really had in years past. I mean, for

2716
02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:33,040
Speaker 6: a couple of years here we're like, Okay, how the

2717
02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:36,480
Speaker 6: Jaguars gonna blow at this time. Ever since that collapse,

2718
02:01:36,520 --> 02:01:37,640
Speaker 6: I want to say it might have been the twenty

2719
02:01:37,640 --> 02:01:38,320
Speaker 6: twenty three.

2720
02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:39,960
Speaker 1: Seasons they were the one seed. I want to say,

2721
02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:41,440
Speaker 1: like at this point of the season.

2722
02:01:41,280 --> 02:01:44,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they just since then they have not really

2723
02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:48,240
Speaker 4: put a lot of fear into me. But because of

2724
02:01:48,640 --> 02:01:50,480
Speaker 4: the arrival of Liam Cohen, I think that he's given

2725
02:01:50,520 --> 02:01:53,560
Speaker 4: this team a level of resiliency and toughness that I

2726
02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:55,280
Speaker 4: just didn't expect because I'm waiting for them to kind

2727
02:01:55,280 --> 02:01:56,840
Speaker 4: of fall off. We all kind of said it, like, oh,

2728
02:01:57,200 --> 02:02:01,320
Speaker 4: Travis Hunters out, Trevor Lawrence, looks like whatever, They're gonna

2729
02:02:01,360 --> 02:02:03,080
Speaker 4: lose some games, and they just haven't done it. And

2730
02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:04,760
Speaker 4: I think that that is something kind of hanging their

2731
02:02:04,760 --> 02:02:06,600
Speaker 4: heat on. In their defense I think has played well

2732
02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:07,800
Speaker 4: is too to a.

2733
02:02:07,720 --> 02:02:10,400
Speaker 3: Degree, it's weird because like the Jaguars are seven to fourty,

2734
02:02:10,400 --> 02:02:11,960
Speaker 3: like that's the Jaguars the fault. But then you look

2735
02:02:11,960 --> 02:02:14,000
Speaker 3: at their schedule, like they have some quality wins on

2736
02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:16,440
Speaker 3: that schedule, Like, right, they went three straight where beating

2737
02:02:16,440 --> 02:02:18,960
Speaker 3: the Texans at San Francisco and then they beat the

2738
02:02:19,040 --> 02:02:21,320
Speaker 3: Chiefs and back to back to back weeks, and they

2739
02:02:21,360 --> 02:02:24,360
Speaker 3: also beat the Chargers, Like they've got some quality wins

2740
02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:24,920
Speaker 3: on there.

2741
02:02:24,760 --> 02:02:27,080
Speaker 1: So it's not just as overtime survival.

2742
02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:29,560
Speaker 3: No, Right, But then but then they have some Jacksonville

2743
02:02:29,600 --> 02:02:32,280
Speaker 3: losses where they lost to the Bengals and everything like that,

2744
02:02:32,320 --> 02:02:35,160
Speaker 3: so the and barely beat the Raiders. So it's just

2745
02:02:35,800 --> 02:02:37,840
Speaker 3: there's some weird stuff going on, but they do have

2746
02:02:37,840 --> 02:02:40,560
Speaker 3: some quality wins against some very good opponents where we out.

2747
02:02:40,440 --> 02:02:43,000
Speaker 2: On their quarterback, Trevor Lawrence at this point in time,

2748
02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:45,040
Speaker 2: is he a true franchise quarterback or just an okay

2749
02:02:45,120 --> 02:02:46,240
Speaker 2: quarterback that's getting by.

2750
02:02:46,440 --> 02:02:50,600
Speaker 1: He's like a slight notch above if you have thirteen

2751
02:02:50,680 --> 02:02:54,800
Speaker 1: quarterback notches, He's a slight notch above Daniel Jones. That's

2752
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:55,640
Speaker 1: the question right now.

2753
02:02:55,680 --> 02:02:57,320
Speaker 3: I feel like if you're having to ask that question,

2754
02:02:57,400 --> 02:02:59,520
Speaker 3: but a franchise quarterback this many years into his career,

2755
02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:01,280
Speaker 3: you don't now he is.

2756
02:03:01,200 --> 02:03:03,360
Speaker 1: With a new coach, a coach that he's.

2757
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:05,840
Speaker 2: Just with a string of offensive coordinators with.

2758
02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:09,200
Speaker 1: Paper Mayfield, So you know there is that thought here.

2759
02:03:09,240 --> 02:03:11,520
Speaker 1: It looks like they'll get Brian Thomas Junior back. They're

2760
02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:13,560
Speaker 1: wide out who obviously had some big games against the

2761
02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:16,320
Speaker 1: Colts last season there so he could be back in

2762
02:03:16,360 --> 02:03:18,520
Speaker 1: lineup a week from Sunday. And just remind everybody have

2763
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:20,560
Speaker 1: shared these numbers a little bit earlier. I know it

2764
02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:23,240
Speaker 1: seems a hair early maybe to look at playoff odds

2765
02:03:23,240 --> 02:03:27,120
Speaker 1: and all of that. Right now, if the Colts were

2766
02:03:27,120 --> 02:03:30,120
Speaker 1: able to win the next two weeks, their chance to

2767
02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:33,720
Speaker 1: win the AFC South would rise to north of ninety percent.

2768
02:03:34,160 --> 02:03:37,400
Speaker 1: If they were to drop these two games, you would

2769
02:03:37,520 --> 02:03:40,720
Speaker 1: drop all the way to fifteen percent in winning the division.

2770
02:03:40,760 --> 02:03:44,360
Speaker 1: Almost sounds like betting on Perdue to win on Friday

2771
02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:45,960
Speaker 1: Night and the money you would make versus betting on

2772
02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:48,680
Speaker 1: Indiana to win in the money you would make there

2773
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:51,120
Speaker 1: if you split, it's about a coin flip. So I

2774
02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:55,520
Speaker 1: don't think it's, you know, an overreaction to just continue

2775
02:03:55,560 --> 02:03:59,640
Speaker 1: to hammer home the massive level of importance that these

2776
02:03:59,680 --> 02:04:00,280
Speaker 1: two games have.

2777
02:04:00,800 --> 02:04:03,520
Speaker 2: Once again, what we have, James, is opportunity. They have

2778
02:04:03,560 --> 02:04:06,320
Speaker 2: an opportunity the next few weeks to put their stamp

2779
02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:10,160
Speaker 2: on the NFL season. You are not optimistic at all, night, friend.

2780
02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:13,160
Speaker 6: I'm realistic. I feel like I'm not passive mistic.

2781
02:04:13,240 --> 02:04:17,080
Speaker 2: I'm realistic. We have no NFL tonight, we have no

2782
02:04:17,120 --> 02:04:19,640
Speaker 2: Pacers games tonight. That means maybe some college basketball. We'll

2783
02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:22,000
Speaker 2: find out what everybody's watching as we continue next on

2784
02:04:22,080 --> 02:04:25,200
Speaker 2: ninety three five and one on seven five US Kevin

2785
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:27,080
Speaker 2: has pointed out a couple of times today it's that

2786
02:04:29,120 --> 02:04:32,960
Speaker 2: Midwest thing, certainly Indianapolis thing today where you look at

2787
02:04:33,000 --> 02:04:34,320
Speaker 2: the temperature and you're like, oh, it's going to be

2788
02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:36,600
Speaker 2: in the mid fifties today. That's not so bad, it's

2789
02:04:36,600 --> 02:04:38,640
Speaker 2: the middle of November. But then you go outside and

2790
02:04:38,640 --> 02:04:41,400
Speaker 2: it's just soupy all day long, just wet and drizzly

2791
02:04:41,440 --> 02:04:42,560
Speaker 2: and soupy all day long.

2792
02:04:42,600 --> 02:04:45,720
Speaker 1: Markabo, we rewards and people in this weather right now,

2793
02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:47,600
Speaker 1: we've done it to lead off shows before I got

2794
02:04:47,600 --> 02:04:49,480
Speaker 1: to close it out. A couple four packs to Butler

2795
02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:53,280
Speaker 1: in action this Friday coming up. It is right state

2796
02:04:53,400 --> 02:04:57,160
Speaker 1: inside hankled Fieldhouse, two o'clock tip there, so I will

2797
02:04:57,200 --> 02:04:58,120
Speaker 1: go fast fingers there.

2798
02:04:58,640 --> 02:04:59,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna do the call in this time.

2799
02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:02,000
Speaker 1: Let's go some fast fingers here, all.

2800
02:05:01,880 --> 02:05:03,840
Speaker 2: Right, make Mark work a little bit, make an answer

2801
02:05:03,880 --> 02:05:06,720
Speaker 2: the phone screen. Some people see he likes when we

2802
02:05:06,760 --> 02:05:08,520
Speaker 2: go text line because he can just sits all they

2803
02:05:08,520 --> 02:05:09,680
Speaker 2: write it all down for him.

2804
02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:13,520
Speaker 1: James, I don't care what Mark likes. Do your job,

2805
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:19,800
Speaker 1: chop job, James. Obviously change seconds. First season he had

2806
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:21,640
Speaker 1: as you know, as big of a game as you

2807
02:05:21,640 --> 02:05:23,960
Speaker 1: can have Week eighteen. You know that was well name

2808
02:05:24,440 --> 02:05:27,360
Speaker 1: the playoff. Now it is the first seasons him as

2809
02:05:27,360 --> 02:05:30,800
Speaker 1: a first time head coach. Second season plays out, obviously

2810
02:05:30,840 --> 02:05:33,880
Speaker 1: the Colts will never either get a great position. Of course,

2811
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, blew some games in December to try and

2812
02:05:36,040 --> 02:05:45,080
Speaker 1: create those moments again, Sunday just feels really big. Like again,

2813
02:05:45,120 --> 02:05:47,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to act like it's obviously Week eighteen

2814
02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:50,160
Speaker 1: winning in but that's year one. You're still in the honeymoon,

2815
02:05:50,400 --> 02:05:52,480
Speaker 1: you're still toss money.

2816
02:05:52,600 --> 02:05:56,480
Speaker 4: Yeah for the year. Yeah, Gardner minshewing there.

2817
02:05:56,720 --> 02:05:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a good point. This just feels a

2818
02:05:59,480 --> 02:06:03,320
Speaker 1: little different of like, you know, what's going to start

2819
02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:07,240
Speaker 1: clenching up if all of a sudden you don't get

2820
02:06:07,240 --> 02:06:09,520
Speaker 1: to win. Now, the Colts have been out standing at home,

2821
02:06:09,560 --> 02:06:12,120
Speaker 1: this season, their numbers at home versus the road are

2822
02:06:12,320 --> 02:06:14,960
Speaker 1: very different. Some could point just strictly to the opponents,

2823
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:17,080
Speaker 1: but still they've been a much better team at home.

2824
02:06:17,120 --> 02:06:19,120
Speaker 1: But I don't know, do you have that vibe at

2825
02:06:19,120 --> 02:06:21,640
Speaker 1: all of just Sunday feeling a little bit more of

2826
02:06:21,680 --> 02:06:25,600
Speaker 1: a ooh boy. There's a heightened sense of urgency as

2827
02:06:25,600 --> 02:06:27,560
Speaker 1: you hit the road for two straight after this one.

2828
02:06:28,200 --> 02:06:31,400
Speaker 4: Absolutely, because I think you're trying to stay fall being

2829
02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:35,280
Speaker 4: the same. This is so much about your immediate and

2830
02:06:35,440 --> 02:06:38,120
Speaker 4: future reality. If things continue to go well, you're eight

2831
02:06:38,160 --> 02:06:39,720
Speaker 4: and three, you want a season open for the first

2832
02:06:39,760 --> 02:06:43,280
Speaker 4: time and forever. You were able to, you know, start

2833
02:06:43,320 --> 02:06:45,000
Speaker 4: to season two and Ozero for the first time two

2834
02:06:45,040 --> 02:06:46,800
Speaker 4: thousand and nine, like YadA, YadA, YadA.

2835
02:06:47,400 --> 02:06:50,720
Speaker 6: But you've now hit your first real rough patch of.

2836
02:06:50,680 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 4: The season, and this is when you have to show

2837
02:06:54,480 --> 02:06:57,160
Speaker 4: who you're going to be. It could go either way

2838
02:06:57,280 --> 02:07:00,200
Speaker 4: very fast.

2839
02:07:00,400 --> 02:07:02,680
Speaker 2: Let me, I'm gonna go ahead and continue to play.

2840
02:07:03,000 --> 02:07:05,440
Speaker 2: Looking on the bright side of things right now. And look,

2841
02:07:05,440 --> 02:07:07,160
Speaker 2: they've lost two out of last three. They did win

2842
02:07:07,200 --> 02:07:10,480
Speaker 2: the overtime game against the Atlanta Falcons. But if Kansas

2843
02:07:10,480 --> 02:07:12,960
Speaker 2: City is still even if it's just remnants, But there's

2844
02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:16,440
Speaker 2: still Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City long term if they

2845
02:07:16,440 --> 02:07:18,880
Speaker 2: win a couple of these division games. Is there that

2846
02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:22,240
Speaker 2: much shame in losing a road game in overtime to

2847
02:07:22,280 --> 02:07:24,480
Speaker 2: the Kansas City chiefs Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes.

2848
02:07:24,520 --> 02:07:30,240
Speaker 1: No, No, I think the sunshine there you go.

2849
02:07:31,040 --> 02:07:33,000
Speaker 3: I've been putting positive spins on everything. I feel like

2850
02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:33,640
Speaker 3: this is the song.

2851
02:07:33,480 --> 02:07:35,800
Speaker 1: We're going to go to from here on it you

2852
02:07:35,880 --> 02:07:38,200
Speaker 1: go from Queen Bee to that here in the last

2853
02:07:38,520 --> 02:07:42,440
Speaker 1: five minutes from a musical standpoint on the show, No not,

2854
02:07:42,520 --> 02:07:45,120
Speaker 1: I mean the beauty of a seventeen game. NFL grind

2855
02:07:45,200 --> 02:07:51,480
Speaker 1: is stretches define you individual Sundays do not stretches.

2856
02:07:51,800 --> 02:07:54,680
Speaker 6: Oh put that on my tombstone. That's a bar.

2857
02:07:54,880 --> 02:07:56,440
Speaker 1: Is that right above or right under?

2858
02:07:56,640 --> 02:07:59,160
Speaker 2: Throw to throw to score, run to win.

2859
02:08:00,840 --> 02:08:01,839
Speaker 6: I'll put it right underneath.

2860
02:08:01,920 --> 02:08:06,080
Speaker 1: Jan Shane's words didn't lead to actions there. So that

2861
02:08:06,200 --> 02:08:09,000
Speaker 1: was just word salad on Sunday least. So that's what

2862
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:12,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out. Jeff is two of three? You

2863
02:08:12,640 --> 02:08:16,160
Speaker 1: know a hurdle or is it something that is going

2864
02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:17,600
Speaker 1: to be a little bit more of We look back

2865
02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:20,040
Speaker 1: on the season and say, you know, what first half

2866
02:08:20,080 --> 02:08:22,800
Speaker 1: of the schedule. Yeah, it was a little bit more managable,

2867
02:08:23,560 --> 02:08:25,680
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the schedule stiffened up,

2868
02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:30,520
Speaker 1: the blueprint started to show up, and the seventeen game

2869
02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:33,760
Speaker 1: grind got to you. So, you know, I think that's

2870
02:08:33,800 --> 02:08:37,800
Speaker 1: how we'll view it right now. I am very curious

2871
02:08:37,800 --> 02:08:39,920
Speaker 1: to see the defensive effort. You know, when Houston has

2872
02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:43,600
Speaker 1: showed up on the schedule lately, one of their biggest weaknesses,

2873
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:47,240
Speaker 1: arguably their biggest weakness, has been their offensive line sans

2874
02:08:47,240 --> 02:08:50,680
Speaker 1: DeForest Buckner. How much can you take advantage of that?

2875
02:08:50,800 --> 02:08:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, Nico Collins, if he torches this secondary,

2876
02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:58,240
Speaker 1: then you got some definite problems. But I just don't

2877
02:08:58,280 --> 02:09:00,560
Speaker 1: expect Houston to come in here and light you up offensively.

2878
02:09:00,680 --> 02:09:02,600
Speaker 1: That would be very disappointing. Even without Buckner.

2879
02:09:03,760 --> 02:09:06,120
Speaker 2: Well, you shouldn't have to worry too much about that

2880
02:09:06,200 --> 02:09:08,800
Speaker 2: run game. That's one thing that the Texans really haven't

2881
02:09:08,840 --> 02:09:13,360
Speaker 2: gotten going this year. At Wood he marks whether it's

2882
02:09:13,800 --> 02:09:16,040
Speaker 2: it's him or they just haven't been able to get

2883
02:09:16,040 --> 02:09:18,680
Speaker 2: it going, true, you know, they just have not been

2884
02:09:18,720 --> 02:09:21,880
Speaker 2: able to chew up time or chew up yardage on

2885
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:24,600
Speaker 2: the ground, and so you know, they're probably gonna have

2886
02:09:24,600 --> 02:09:27,400
Speaker 2: to rely on Nico Collins, and that's where you feel

2887
02:09:27,440 --> 02:09:30,080
Speaker 2: better if you're a Colts fan, because that's another week

2888
02:09:31,080 --> 02:09:34,240
Speaker 2: of learning the system and integrating with everybody else. And

2889
02:09:34,280 --> 02:09:38,320
Speaker 2: I still think long term that's a terrific secondary. So yeah,

2890
02:09:38,320 --> 02:09:40,120
Speaker 2: if you're the Colts, another week to work on it

2891
02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:42,920
Speaker 2: with the new guy, feel pretty decent about that.

2892
02:09:44,080 --> 02:09:46,160
Speaker 6: It was good to have Traveria's war back in there.

2893
02:09:46,200 --> 02:09:46,400
Speaker 5: I know.

2894
02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:49,400
Speaker 4: He mentioned how scared he was when he kind of

2895
02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:51,800
Speaker 4: took that blind side hit from the Chiefs offensive lineman,

2896
02:09:52,240 --> 02:09:55,000
Speaker 4: but it was fortunately to his chest not his head,

2897
02:09:55,480 --> 02:09:57,600
Speaker 4: and he said it did alat for his confidence to

2898
02:09:57,640 --> 02:09:59,520
Speaker 4: go out there and take a hit, give a hit

2899
02:10:00,040 --> 02:10:00,920
Speaker 4: and respond.

2900
02:10:00,600 --> 02:10:03,800
Speaker 1: And Shane said he checked out fine. Yes, it's just

2901
02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:05,760
Speaker 1: to add a little bit. Further More, so, Ashton Dulan

2902
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:07,720
Speaker 1: will miss some time, but as of now, that appears

2903
02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:10,680
Speaker 1: to be the only injury exiting Sunday. By the way,

2904
02:10:10,720 --> 02:10:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to tonight. It could be a really

2905
02:10:12,480 --> 02:10:15,680
Speaker 1: high scoring affair down there in Bloomington Darren Freezing company,

2906
02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:18,040
Speaker 1: especially they get back to shooting the basketball like we

2907
02:10:18,080 --> 02:10:20,720
Speaker 1: saw earlier in the season. Kansas State has been very

2908
02:10:20,760 --> 02:10:23,280
Speaker 1: high powered. This season is kind of a unique matchup.

2909
02:10:23,320 --> 02:10:25,360
Speaker 1: I you, Kansas State sounds like an old school a

2910
02:10:25,400 --> 02:10:28,120
Speaker 1: little bit of a throwback there, So PJ. Haggerty in

2911
02:10:28,240 --> 02:10:30,520
Speaker 1: Kansas State. They've put up a lot of points this season.

2912
02:10:31,120 --> 02:10:33,000
Speaker 1: Lamar Wilkerson, does he get back to kind of how

2913
02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:36,080
Speaker 1: he shot it earlier in the season here, So kind

2914
02:10:36,080 --> 02:10:38,840
Speaker 1: of a notable Tuesday night in late November.

2915
02:10:38,920 --> 02:10:41,920
Speaker 2: That's probably what I'll be watching tonight. Mark anything else

2916
02:10:41,960 --> 02:10:43,360
Speaker 2: out of the ordinary at your house, you guys are

2917
02:10:43,360 --> 02:10:44,440
Speaker 2: gonna be played on a.

2918
02:10:44,440 --> 02:10:46,840
Speaker 3: Big old bite a cluster truck, you guess, well, of course,

2919
02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:50,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if the new Plurbus episodes up there,

2920
02:10:50,960 --> 02:10:51,640
Speaker 3: will probably.

2921
02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:54,440
Speaker 1: Watch that Chipmunk cheeks unbelievable.

2922
02:10:54,480 --> 02:10:56,360
Speaker 6: It looks so happy.

2923
02:10:57,080 --> 02:11:00,000
Speaker 2: Everybody sat with that. So you're on Indiana tonight too.

2924
02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:03,760
Speaker 1: Touch a clock as well. Reminder everybody, all right, that's.

2925
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:05,240
Speaker 2: Gonna put a wrap on up for us tonight. We

2926
02:11:05,280 --> 02:11:06,840
Speaker 2: will have one more show this week and then we're

2927
02:11:06,880 --> 02:11:10,080
Speaker 2: off for the Thursday and Friday holiday combo and lots

2928
02:11:10,080 --> 02:11:13,000
Speaker 2: of games going to be on the fan, including state

2929
02:11:13,080 --> 02:11:16,840
Speaker 2: high school championship games Friday and Saturday. Various stations here

2930
02:11:16,880 --> 02:11:19,160
Speaker 2: at Radio one will get you sorted out on that

2931
02:11:19,240 --> 02:11:21,720
Speaker 2: tomorrow as well. Have a great day, Jake at noon,

2932
02:11:21,800 --> 02:11:23,400
Speaker 2: jamb at three. We'll see you tomorrow morning.