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Speaker 2: it's awesome. It was great, and it was a fabulous weekend.

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Speaker 2: And the Purdue boiler Makers are once again and the

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Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen and this NCAA tournament. We got a lot

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Speaker 2: for individuals or a foursome. We've got the NBA to

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Speaker 2: things are looking interesting in terms of if they were

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Speaker 2: And of course the NCAA tournament, which is where we

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Speaker 2: And of course there's nothing like the NCAA tournament. And

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Speaker 2: I had several thoughts as I was watching the way

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Speaker 2: And there are teams that have great players. There are

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Speaker 2: Because there are teams that you see blitz their way

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Speaker 2: It is perfectly fitting of Purdue basketball, perfectly fitting of

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Speaker 1: It is Purdue that.

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Speaker 2: It's Purdue, and it has been now for probably twenty years.

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Speaker 2: They've been the leader. But Purdue is the one that

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Speaker 2: and they're consistent. They're consistent. And yes, you could make

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Speaker 2: then you should take pride to what Purdue does. Because

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Speaker 1: The media just makes stories up. The guy said it.

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Speaker 2: You're being asked about something that the player himself said,

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Speaker 2: not that there's a report or a rumor that a

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Speaker 2: offered seven million to go to Kentucky. Coach, what's your

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Speaker 2: this year's Well we live in a crazy world of

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Speaker 1: Who's out there?

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Speaker 2: And you've got to assume that Texas is you know,

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Speaker 2: But Eddie, here's the question, Okay, and this I think

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Speaker 1: If that were the case.

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Speaker 3: McCaslin at Texas.

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Speaker 3: Young Otzelberger would be in that mix. Iowa State he's outstanding,

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Speaker 2: Obviously, a great coach, had great success at Buffalo, and

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Speaker 1: They would be thrilled.

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Speaker 2: Kansas would be thrilled with Matt Painter, who basically, you know,

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Speaker 1: Would would all of them, all of them would be.

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you their fan base would be perfectly happy

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Speaker 2: I don't think Matt Painter would have any interest in

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Speaker 2: Don't kid yourself. Braden Smith ain't wearing Cinderella's slippers in

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Speaker 2: Is there because he embodies the team aspect of it,

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Speaker 1: He's said as much.

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Speaker 2: Braiden Smith could have gone to Kentucky and probably gotten

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Speaker 2: and there are some big mountains to climb, Don't get

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Speaker 2: Hey, we have the most to offer you, so come

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Speaker 1: And he says, I'm cool with it.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to medical school, I'm gonna get a

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Speaker 2: What can I do to help Purdue? And that's why

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Speaker 2: their last syllable is due. It's not don't, It's due.

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Speaker 2: And if you are a fan, I know it's difficult

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Speaker 1: I get it. I understand it. I grew up. Believe

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Speaker 2: I grew up the biggest Indiana fan on the planet

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Speaker 2: yesterday I saw Craig Riley walking around. I had ptsd

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Speaker 2: Ryan burning, Conzo Martin, and that scal that looks like

438
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Speaker 2: Derek Harper.

439
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Speaker 1: I hated all of it.

440
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: But you know what, as I'm watching this year's NCAA Tournament,

441
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 2: I'm again thinking to myself, I love being from Indiana,

442
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: and I love the fact that it was a glorious,

443
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: beautiful weekend, and once again a team from Indiana is

444
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: in the Sweet sixteen and has a chance to bring

445
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: themselves back here to play for a national championship because

446
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: they're going about it with the principles and the value

447
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: that we in Indiana claim to love, the love of

448
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: the game, team work. Sure, they're all getting an eel.

449
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, I'm not naive to it. But

450
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: I will absolutely stand on the top of Crown Hill,

451
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 2: highest point in Marion County by the way, although some

452
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 2: say there's actually an area that is right on the

453
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: corner of Boone County, but we're gonna go with the Crownhill.

454
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: Right on the top of Crownhill, I will stand and

455
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 2: scream it, and I will scream the fact that Purdue

456
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: is where they are because they're true to themselves and

457
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 2: they have talent, but they are also and they have

458
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 2: a lot of individual talent, but the sum is probably

459
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: better than the individual parts. A lot to get to

460
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: over the course of today, speaking of prdue Nathan Baird

461
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 2: and he star going to join us other side Brandon

462
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 2: Goddin on the program today. He has been all over

463
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: calling some of these games in college basketball. We got

464
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: baseball to get to as well, because Opening Days coming

465
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: and Eddie Eddie's been chomping, chopping at the bit our

466
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 2: beer wager.

467
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I can't wait for this.

468
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: And numbers game to get everybody caught up on. I've

469
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: already had to buy one of the hats. Actually two

470
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: of the hats are already purchased. I'll explain what I

471
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: mean by that. After Nathan joins this other side produce

472
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: in fact dancing, matter of fact, dancing their way now.

473
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: And the San Jose. Do you know the way to

474
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: San Jose?

475
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: Asked Dion Warwick, and the Boilermaker said, yes, we do.

476
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,479
Speaker 2: Up next, it is the Longhorns of Texas. Sean Miller

477
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: and the team that has Eddie said kind of backed

478
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: their way into the tournament, then had to kind of

479
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: play their way through and now they find themselves after

480
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 2: their upset of Gonzaga. We didn't even touch on Florida

481
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: getting beat by Iowa? Did Are there Indiana fans that

482
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: watched last night and thought to themselves?

483
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: Did we hire the wrong guy from Drake?

484
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 2: Because Ben McCullum, if you recall, I remember when that

485
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: job was open, and I mentioned Ben McCollum on several occasions.

486
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 2: But the one hesitation that a lot of people had

487
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: about him was that he played a slower style. And

488
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what he very clearly is he is

489
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: not married to one style because Iowa. I mean, And

490
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: if you watch last night Nathan Bart joining us now

491
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: on the Java House Colbrew Coffee guest line, Nathan, did

492
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Speaker 2: you I'll ask him? Did you happen to watch last night?

493
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 2: The end? And I know you were probably working and

494
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: writing up stuff on Purdue. Did you see the end

495
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: of the Iowa Florida game? By chance?

496
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 5: Sadly I can't help you with that. I was driving

497
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 5: back from Saint Louis well I figured, yeah.

498
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: I wish so if you watch it, they come down

499
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: and Iowa needs a two to tie a three to

500
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: take the lead late in the game, and they hit

501
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 2: a three out of the corner with three point four

502
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: seconds left, And for a group of players that are

503
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: playing for that coach for the first time this season,

504
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: as soon as that ball went through the net, I

505
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: watched it.

506
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: I reround and watched it twice.

507
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: Every player on the floor immediately and instinctively gets into

508
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: defensive position. There's no celebrating, there's no looking up, there's

509
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: no jumping, there's no nerve, nothing, immediately instinctively getting in

510
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 2: position on the floor. And I look at that and

511
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: I go, that is coaching one on one right there.

512
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: That guy McCollum can flat out coach, was what I

513
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: was going to say. But at the same time, let's

514
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: talk about Purdue and the coaching that Matt Paynter has done.

515
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: Because one of the things I think that is assign

516
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: a great coaching is when if one guy doesn't have it,

517
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: then do you find the next one that kind of

518
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: lifts you up? And I thought, I'm not saying that

519
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 2: Painter pushed the button on CJ.

520
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: Cox, but CJ.

521
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: Cox was huge for Purdue yesterday, and then obviously there

522
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: was kind of an injury there that was tweaked. First off,

523
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: let's begin with that. What's the latest that you know

524
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: in terms of the health status there.

525
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 5: You know, no update as of this morning, but I

526
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 5: talked to s Cox in the locker room yesterday. He

527
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 5: didn't seem overly concerned. Now we've been led astray before.

528
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,719
Speaker 5: I can remember being in the locker room with Isaac

529
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 5: Moss in Detroit or whatever that was in twenty eighteen,

530
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 5: and everybody thought everything was okay, and then fifteen minutes

531
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 5: later a season was over.

532
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 4: So but this doesn't appear to be anywhere near that serious.

533
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 5: They had him running and stretching, doing agility things because

534
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 5: he wanted to come back in the game.

535
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 4: He thought he could come back in the game.

536
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 5: Frankly, they just didn't need him to come back in

537
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 5: the game. They could play it safe. They were able

538
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 5: to keep enough of a buffer with Miami after he

539
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 5: came out that it was okay for him to just

540
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 5: take that rest. He seemed very confident that he'll be

541
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 5: able to play. It's not the best situation because they've

542
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 5: got to get back on a plane tomorrow. It's like

543
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 5: we do and go out there and that travel can

544
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 5: be you know, aggravating sometimes for injuries.

545
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 4: But he was just icing the knee. They didn't have

546
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 4: anything on.

547
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 5: The knee when he came back out of the locker

548
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 5: room to sit on the sideline. So I think there's

549
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 5: reason for optimism right now that he will be able

550
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 5: to play. I don't know if it'll be anything that

551
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 5: inhibits him. He is Purdue's best defender. He is the

552
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 5: guy that they will put on the other team's biggest,

553
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 5: non big man scoring threat. And sometimes he'll even take

554
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 5: on guys who are you more like the Nick Martinelli's

555
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 5: and guys in the Big ten, who are you know,

556
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 5: six seven, six eight. He takes on those sort of

557
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 5: wing challenges too sometimes if they're you know, high profile scores.

558
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 4: So they need him for that role.

559
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 5: Jakari Harris backs him up and did it very well yesterday.

560
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 5: And Omermeyer sometimes takes on pieces of those assignments too,

561
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 5: but he's the first guy through the door on those.

562
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 5: That's why he starts, and that's they'll want to make

563
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 5: sure that he gets the treatment necessary, that he's got

564
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 5: the kind of lateral movement, cutting and things that he'll

565
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 5: need to take on those assignments.

566
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Speaker 2: The increased defensive I won't say pressure as much as

567
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: just attention to detail that Purdue was able to put

568
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: together for the Big Ten tournament. Did you feel that

569
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: it was at the same level here through two games

570
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: of the NCAA Tournament.

571
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 5: It came and went a little bit, I thought, But

572
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 5: some of that is dictated by your opponent. I mean,

573
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 5: they're going to come out with an enthusiasm and an

574
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 5: urgency that you don't get in and even in a

575
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 5: Big Ten tournament game probably, I mean, their seasons are

576
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 5: on the line. I thought Miami the way they did

577
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 5: attacked in the first half yesterday was a little bit

578
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 5: indicative of that. And sometimes it takes you a while

579
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 5: to adjust to an uncommon opponent too. Even though they've

580
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 5: played Trey Donaldson and Milke Reno before as a whole,

581
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 5: this is a team.

582
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: That they're unfamiliar with.

583
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 5: I thought in the first half, the way Miami was

584
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 5: getting downhill was attacking the basket and sometimes using that

585
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 5: to get it out to guys who They're not an

586
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 5: exceptional three point shooting team, as we saw in the

587
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 5: second half, but when they were getting it in the

588
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 5: actions that they wanted, if they were dictating the shots

589
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 5: they wanted, it was working out for him in the

590
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 5: first half. I thought in the second half, you saw

591
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 5: Purdue do a much better job of just being in

592
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 5: front of their That sounds so simple sometimes, but these

593
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 5: are really physical, really athletic players that a lot of

594
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 5: these things have, especially Miami, and you know, talking to

595
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 5: people like Fletcher Lawyer after the game, it was an

596
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 5: indication of just kind of getting in at halftime and

597
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 5: regrouping a little bit and prioritizing staying in front of

598
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 5: your man, prioritizing the big guys keeping their hands up

599
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 5: instead of getting those fouls when the Miami was driving

600
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 5: to the basket. If you saw in the second half,

601
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 5: Miami missed a lot of shots around the rim. They

602
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 5: missed a lot of jump shots from farther out. I

603
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 5: thought one of the keys to that game was going

604
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 5: to be Purdue making sure they were kind of closing off,

605
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 5: cutting off some of those driving lanes, making Miami tried

606
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 5: to score over the height that Purdue had inside, and

607
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 5: making Miami prove it could consistently hit threes. It couldn't

608
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 5: do either of those things in the second half, when

609
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 5: Purdue just did a better job of staying connected, staying

610
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 5: in front of its guy.

611
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Speaker 2: Nathan Baird is my guest Indianapolis Star is where you

612
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: can read his work. He is on the Java House

613
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: Colbrew Coffee guest Linean Fletcher Lawyer getting going yesterday, I mean,

614
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Speaker 2: Purdue is obviously a different team. The numbers would say

615
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: it difference the wrong way of saying it, but they

616
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: are really difficult to beat when Fletcher Lawyer gets going

617
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: from the outside it happened yesterday. Was that a matter

618
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: of them taking what was presented to them, or do

619
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: you believe that Matt Painter came up with some wrinkles

620
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: in their offense to try to jump start Fletcher Lawyer

621
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: a bit.

622
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Speaker 5: Well, Matt Painter would want me to make sure to

623
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 5: point out that if there's wrinkles in the offense, it's

624
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 5: probably PJ. Thompson that's doing him. He's the one that

625
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 5: has taken over that role. But really, I think what

626
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 5: you saw from Fletcher Lawyer yesterday was just an extension

627
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 5: of what has been going on for him since February first.

628
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 5: I think he's like third in the country was going

629
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 5: into yesterday. I know he was third in the country

630
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 5: in three point percentage since February first. Among guys who've

631
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 5: taken at least one hundred attempts. Since February fourteenth, it

632
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 5: had been fifty six point three percent from three And

633
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 5: the reason I know that is because I had just

634
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Speaker 5: written a thing for indie Star dot com for Saturday

635
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 5: morn Sunday morning about Fletcher Laurier. And usually that's kind

636
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 5: of like an unintentional Jinks job sometimes that a guy

637
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 5: will come out and you've ruined it for them, and

638
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 5: now they fall off of that rate, and he goes

639
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 5: out and makes his first six shots. And sometimes when

640
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 5: Fletcher Lawyer is doing those things, some of that was

641
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 5: just things kind of reverting to the mean a little bit.

642
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 5: He'd had a rough stretch of shooting where shots weren't falling.

643
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 5: He had a four or seventeen game against Nebraska included

644
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 5: in this month since feb first, when he's still third

645
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 5: in the country, but that was going to correct itself

646
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 5: and come back towards his historical norm. That's where the

647
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 5: numbers have sort of been pushing him. But I also

648
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 5: think it's indicative of the health of the Purdue offense

649
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 5: as a whole. It's been getting the ball inside to

650
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 5: Trakeofferman and Oscar Clough and the actions that the defensive

651
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 5: adjustments to people have to make off of that, the

652
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 5: help that they have to give off of that.

653
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: That opens things up for Fletcher Lawyer.

654
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: They ran a couple looks for him off of ball

655
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Speaker 5: screens against Miami, but there wasn't a ton of those.

656
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Speaker 5: One of them are I remember, was just they were

657
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 5: trying to trap Braden Smith in the half court and

658
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 5: Braiden just sort of floated a ball across mid court.

659
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 5: Fletcher Lura caught it really easily, took like two steps

660
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 5: up and just shot a three and made it. And

661
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 5: it's not always that they are dialing things up for him.

662
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 5: Some of it is him being a smart guy. He's

663
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 5: always had this knack, but especially now as a senior,

664
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Speaker 5: I think he knows how to pick his moments and

665
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 5: be aggressive in his moments. So right now he's just

666
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 5: really locked into the best extended shooting stretch of his career.

667
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 5: The numbers would tell you, and that's it works very

668
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 5: well in conjunction. When the rest of Purdue's offense is

669
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 5: acting as it's supposed to, the thing that can really

670
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 5: doom a team like Purdue in this time of season.

671
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 5: You've seen this happen so many times, I think in

672
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 5: the nca Tournament as a team comes out and just

673
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 5: falls in love with the jump shot and takes it,

674
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 5: goes to the jump shot first, even with a good

675
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 5: three point shooting team, because you get out of your rhythm,

676
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 5: you start taking those early in possessions and you're not

677
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 5: working for the best possible shot. And I think what

678
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 5: we've seen for from Purdue for the most part for

679
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 5: the last two weeks, is a team that really knows

680
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 5: how to get the ball to Cluff, get the ball

681
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 5: to Kaffin Wren, really let them feast inside on teams

682
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 5: and make teams make the mistake of over correcting to that.

683
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: Do you feel like because I do feel this way, Nathan,

684
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: But you watch it with a much more you know,

685
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: fine tooth comb than I. It seems to me like.

686
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: And it took a while, but Kluff and Kaufman Wren

687
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 2: have kind of figured out their space with each other

688
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: on the low block, and that's really allowed Kaufman Wren,

689
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: who can play and beat you in a couple of

690
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 2: different ways. His level of activity offensively around the basket

691
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 2: seems to have elevated here in this recent stretch, and

692
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: it seems like it's because now finally he has kind

693
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 2: of that symbiotic relationship on the block with Kluff and

694
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: where he's going to be. Did they alter something to

695
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 2: facilitate that.

696
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 5: They have made a little bit of an alteration late

697
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 5: in the season just in terms of their substitution pattern

698
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 5: because he used to be at the under twelve timeout

699
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 5: or sorry, under sixteen time out, Oscar Cluff will come

700
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 5: out of game, Daniel Jacobson would go in. That was

701
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 5: just sort of a standard center for center switch. They

702
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 5: were trying to keep Oscar Cluff, you know, with the

703
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,479
Speaker 5: stamina to get.

704
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 4: Through a game.

705
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 5: But the way he was playing and the way that

706
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 5: their small lineup has worked. When they move Coffin and

707
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 5: Wan down to the five, they decided to change in

708
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 5: things that the under sixteen now Kauflin Wren comes out,

709
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 5: they put in Jack Benter, so you know, an undersize

710
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 5: four oversized guard however you want to call him, and

711
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 5: they play side by side with Kluff for a while

712
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 5: and then at that under twelve usually as long as

713
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 5: there's no foul issues that predicate that that's when Cluff

714
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 5: comes out, coffermendoes back in, and now they're playing that

715
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 5: smaller lineup for a stretch, and for whatever reason, I

716
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 5: think that has unlocked something in Cluff. You're seeing it

717
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 5: both in the defensive performance that you're getting from him

718
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 5: and how consistent he's been on offense. And I think

719
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 5: the corollary to that is that now you're just extending

720
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 5: how far in the game you're giving teams kind of

721
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 5: a physical beating underneath, because kapper Renn is such a

722
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 5: physical player and in some ways it's more.

723
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 4: Suited to be the five.

724
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 5: But when you've got him and Cluff together, that combination

725
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 5: just helps you so much defensively. You're trying to keep

726
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 5: that on the floor as much as possible. I think

727
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 5: you're probably right. I think there is also the element

728
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 5: of you're introducing this new piece into the team, even though.

729
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 4: Kluff got here last summer.

730
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 5: I think in order to maximize what that is, that

731
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 5: probably takes some time to come together. And I think

732
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 5: not just how kaffin Rent approaches that balance, but how

733
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 5: the whole offense at any given moment approaches that balance

734
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 5: has probably just refined itself over the course of a season.

735
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: If Nathan did not know his way to San Jose,

736
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 2: He's got a little bit of time to figure it out,

737
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: because that's where the Boilers are headed next, taking on

738
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: Texas in Sweet sixteen. Nathan, appreciate it. We'll be reading

739
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 2: the coverage at Indianapolis Star.

740
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 4: Thanks a lot anytime.

741
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 2: Nathan Baer joining us from the Indianapol Star. Java House

742
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Speaker 2: Coldbrue Coffee guest line. By the way, I went to

743
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Speaker 2: Java House yesterday again a reminder if you're going to

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Speaker 2: go into any of their locations two of them downtown

745
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Speaker 2: Indy one and brought a pool two and Carmel. Many

746
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747
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Speaker 2: Used the code Jake twenty five on your order. You

748
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749
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Speaker 2: and you get twenty five percent off when you do

750
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Speaker 2: it that way. All right, we have not one, but

751
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: two prizes that are already locked in for our Numbers

752
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 2: game in the NCAA Tournament. We will get to that.

753
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 2: I'll let you know what I'm talking about. Dustin de

754
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: Pira coming up top of the two o'clock hour, getting

755
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 2: a look at the Pacers home stretch and then Brandon Goden,

756
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 2: who was of course on the mic for so many

757
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: of the games in the NCAA tournament, joining us two

758
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Speaker 2: thirty thanks to Nathan Brandon Godden, two thirty Dustin de

759
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 2: Pirac coming up at two o'clock at our numbers game.

760
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 2: You know how we do it. People called in and

761
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 2: gave me a random number, and they got a school

762
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: assigned to that number.

763
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: And there were three ways to win.

764
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: You get the school that loses by the largest margin

765
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 2: in the NCAA tournament, so the biggest blowout victim, you

766
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: get the double digit seed to advance the furthest or

767
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: you get the national championship winner again, the grand prize

768
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: being I'll buy you a hat of your school, along

769
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: with will get you hooked up with gift cards to

770
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: Chicago's Pizza and their nineteen Central Indiana locations the best

771
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: when it comes to the finest pizza ingredients, the lunch buffet.

772
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: You still got forty one minutes to get in there

773
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Speaker 2: right now to enjoy their lunch buffet, which is multiple

774
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Speaker 2: pizza options, salad bar, all the fixings, breadsticks, thirteen dollars

775
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Speaker 2: with a soft drink. Chicago's Pizza also Chicago's Pizza and

776
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: then also a Java House gift card along with the

777
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: hat for the grand prize. The other two you get

778
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: a hat of the school that you won, and you

779
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 2: say to yourself, well, what good is a hat going

780
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: to do me? Right?

781
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: Well, think about this, Eddie. Hat's always fashionable.

782
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: But can you imagine the envy of your friends that

783
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: you would become if you're rocking yourself a hat at

784
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: a party and somebody's like, I didn't know you went

785
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: to school there? Like I didn't, Then why are you

786
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: wearing the hat? Have you visited? Never been there? So?

787
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: What for what reason would you be wearing that hat?

788
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: I want it on a numbers the Quary and Company

789
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: Numbers game. Excellent marketing, Jake Eddie the conversation piece. This

790
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 2: could start. Oh goodness, I'm just hoping of our winners.

791
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: I'm hoping at least one of them is single and

792
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 2: on tender because you do the profile picture wearing the

793
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: hat when the Quarrying Company Numbers game.

794
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: Oh God, line them up. Okay, okay, all.

795
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: Right, here's who we have. We know factually that we

796
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: have our first winner. As a matter of fact, I

797
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: believe we have a sounder for who Gary Gott, which

798
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: is the double digit seed to advance the furthest.

799
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: And that means that when he heard this sounder.

800
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 3: The start that night a big.

801
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 2: Brud when he got the Longhorns fim Peerie Herman, he

802
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: did not know that that was going to be the

803
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: double digit seed to advance the furthest. But in fact

804
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 2: that is the case because Texas now is in the

805
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: sweet sixteen, they are the lone double digit seed to

806
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: get that far. So Gary has won a Texas hat.

807
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 2: I have already purchased it. It's already in root to shame.

808
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 3: That Uh was it a double digit seed?

809
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually they're still live right, Yeah, well they could

810
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: still Eddie, they could still win the whole thing. Can

811
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: you imagine if they win the whole thing? Was it Bill?

812
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: I believe that had them. I'm trying to see who

813
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: it was that drew Iowa. It was number seven, right, Brian,

814
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: Brian drew Iowa and got this as his sounder. Huh

815
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: for the Hawkeyes And they're still alive. But I bought

816
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 2: a very fashionable Texas hat. So Gary, here's and this

817
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 2: is the one part of the numbers game. If you're

818
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: Gary or if you know, Gary, at some point you

819
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: got to call back into Eddie so we can get

820
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: your personal information to send the hat to you. Now

821
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: the other hat. And I've never done this before in

822
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: the history of the numbers game. I've never before done this.

823
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 2: We haven't do we happen to have the breaking news

824
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: sounder by chance, Eddie. For the first time in a

825
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: long time, I have actually counted chickens before they hatched

826
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: because and there was a year. I believe it was

827
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: two thy and sixteen. I'd have to look at the year,

828
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: but there was a year where the biggest blowout in

829
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: the tournament came in the final four Villanova beat Oklahoma

830
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: by it was Buddy Heal's Oklahoma team. I want to

831
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: say forty one, and that was the largest margin of

832
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: victory in the tournament.

833
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: But I cannot imagine it can happen.

834
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: But I am so confident that I have officially counted

835
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 2: my chickens before they hatched. And for the first time

836
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: in the history of the Numbers game, I have purchased

837
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: the hat before the tournament even ends. Because Drew got

838
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 2: Prairie View A and M and they've got a pretty

839
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,959
Speaker 2: sweet hat. By the way, the hat that I got

840
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: is pretty cool. They lost by fifty nine. There's no way, Eddie,

841
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 2: that anybody and the remainder of the tournament is going

842
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: to lose by.

843
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: More than fifty nine points, right, I don't think so.

844
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 3: I would need to know where that blowout ranks in

845
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 3: the history of the tournament.

846
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 2: It's got to be. That's a great question. Has to

847
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: be way up there. And to make matters worse. Can

848
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 2: you imagine losing by fifty nine to a team that

849
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: then turns around and loses two games later, which is

850
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: what actually a game later? Right?

851
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 3: Yep, one game later four times for Florida.

852
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: And watch Florida and last night Iowa. That was a

853
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: fabulous game. I think for the most part it's been.

854
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: It's a tournament that has really lacked moments. The shot

855
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 2: that Vanderbilt nearly hit to beat Nebraska.

856
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: Would have been a moment, but it didn't go down.

857
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: Oh tega oway tying it up against uh definitely.

858
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: But here's what's what's crazy, Eddie, is that already feels

859
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: like a month ago because so many games have been

860
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 2: played since then, and because Kentucky didn't turn around and.

861
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: You know, obviously got beat right, But that was a.

862
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 2: I mean, that was an unbelievable shot and that absolutely

863
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 2: will be in one shining moment, no doubt about it.

864
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 3: So, Jake, I did a March Madness survivor pool. Do

865
00:46:54,480 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: I use Purdue for Thursday against.

866
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: You don't want to jinx anything, right, I know?

867
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: No.

868
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you there's one that I think.

869
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 3: Is a lock. I cannot use Michigan State. I cannot

870
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 3: use Illinois.

871
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: For those that don't know.

872
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: As survivor pool means you're allowed to pick one team,

873
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 2: you cannot use them twice to win in the next round,

874
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: and if they win, you move on. I will tell

875
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: you the team that I think is a lock and

876
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 2: no one's talking about.

877
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: Them, and I cannot no one's talking about.

878
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll tell you. And an observation regarding the Big

879
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: Ten as it relates to schools around here. Do both

880
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 2: of that. Looking back on everything over the weekend next

881
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 2: the Sweet Sixteen is set, and with it it shares

882
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: a glimpse into the various ways in which college basketball

883
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: offers its programs to its fans and offers games to

884
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 2: teams and etc. Because we all have been looking at

885
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 2: and this is the world's worst analogy I realized, but

886
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: I've used this.

887
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: Illustration before. If you ever watch rain droplets on a

888
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: windshield or on the window when you're in a car

889
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: and one of them is dropping down, there's three or

890
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: four of them, and they're sitting there trickling down, and

891
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: you're watching one of them and you're trying to figure

892
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 1: out which way it's going to go. It's like watching plinko,

893
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: and just when you.

894
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: Think for certain that it's about to go a certain direction,

895
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: it completely pivots. There's a one to eighty, and then

896
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: it's off, completely going awrye of where it looked like

897
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 2: it was headed. And you can have two droplets that

898
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: are alongside one another, and all of a sudden, one

899
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: of them just flies down the windshet and the other

900
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 2: one just gets stuck.

901
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: You just never know.

902
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 2: There are so many different factors that go into what

903
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: causes those rain drops to move down the windshield at

904
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: different rates, even though they all started theoretically in the

905
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: same spot. And it feels like that's where we are

906
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: right now in the world of college basketball and college

907
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: athletics in general. There are so many factors even though

908
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: everybody's starting at the same spot.

909
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: You have a roster that you've got to build.

910
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 2: You're going out, you're recruiting at high schools or in

911
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: tournaments whatever. It might be AAU circuits, but you have

912
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: shoe contracts and shoe showcasing, and you have transfers, and

913
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: you have graduate students. There's a million things that can

914
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 2: factor in which way your rain drop's going to go.

915
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 2: And there are those programs that we have just become

916
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 2: ingrained in ourselves that it's an automatic that they are

917
00:49:54,800 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 2: always going to be competing and contending. Live in a

918
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: bizarro world in college athletics now, and some programs have

919
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 2: a lull and come back. Some programs are born seemingly overnight.

920
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 2: Some programs are really good right now, and they may

921
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: not be tomorrow because their roster is going to be

922
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: completely turned over or picked apart. One program that was

923
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: a once dominant program more often than not really two eras.

924
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 2: They had a great player that took them to back

925
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: to back final fours. And that great player who is

926
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 2: arguably the I think one of the more forgotten great

927
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 2: players in the history of the game.

928
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: And was part of two.

929
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 2: Iconic moments in college basketball history. In the nineteen sixty

930
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: nine season, LEU au Sender was the dominant player in

931
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 2: college basketball. Obviously, he later in his career career, kids

932
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 2: would know him as Kareem Abdul Jabbar, and along with

933
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: his skyhook and his laborious lumber down the floor after

934
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: hitting one. Late in his career, he was as known

935
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 2: for his goggles as he was his cameo and airplane.

936
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 2: But one of the great players in the history of

937
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 2: the game, and a lot of people probably don't realize

938
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 2: that those goggles that Kareem Abdul Jabbar wore were because

939
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: of a scratch to his eyeball that he got in

940
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 2: the nineteen sixty nine season in the Astrodome and a

941
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: historic matchup against Elvin Hayes and the Houston Cougars. And

942
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,240
Speaker 2: Elvin Hayes is one that when people talk about great

943
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 2: players in the history of the game, his name has

944
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 2: somehow sadly gotten kind of lost in the luster. But

945
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 2: are in the stacks of players, but a great, great,

946
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 2: great player. And I believe, Eddie, I'm going to have

947
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: you test my memory here, Okay, every once in a

948
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 2: while in my age, I've got to do these things

949
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: to test myself, I believe. In nineteen sixty nine because

950
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 2: after Lewais Center had his eyeball scratched against Elvin Hayes

951
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: and Houston at the beginning of the year at a

952
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 2: huge matchup to promote the Astrodome, They then re met

953
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: one another in the nineteen sixty nine final four, the

954
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 2: same final four where UCLA had defeated Rick Mount and Purdue,

955
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: and I think they defeated Houston one on one to

956
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: sixty nine, but I could be wrong in that score.

957
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: I'll have you look it up and you.

958
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: Can fact check me here if you'd like the nineteen

959
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: sixty nine final four perdueing Houston. But the point I'm

960
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: making here is Houston then kind of went away for

961
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 2: a while. They came back with Fi Slama Jama when

962
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: they had eliju Wan and Drexler, and then they went

963
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 2: back into doldrums and Calvin Sampson.

964
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: Say what you want about him.

965
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 2: The guy can coach and defensively he can coach, and

966
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: he is an ab That team is a nightmare defensively, Yes,

967
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: Eddie sixty nine or the seventy sixty nine.

968
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 3: In sixty nine it was Ucla, Drake, North Carolina, Purdue.

969
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 2: Then look up sixty eight. Sorry, might have been sixty

970
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 2: eight might have been sixty eight, but they definitely played.

971
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 3: In the final sixty It was Usula, Houston, Ohio State,

972
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 3: and North Carolina.

973
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 1: Okay, what was the final on the UCLA Houston game.

974
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: One on one?

975
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 3: Sixty nine?

976
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, I got the year off by year, but yeah,

977
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 2: sixty eight. So take everything I said and changed it

978
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: from sixty eight. They're sixty nine and sixty eight. But

979
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 2: I think Houston is your lock. I think Houston beats

980
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: nobody's talking about Houston, but that team is they are

981
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 2: literally they just get after you defensively. I'm not saying

982
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 2: they're a lock to win it all. I'm saying I

983
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: would be stunned if they don't beat Nebraska.

984
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 3: Can I give you my That's exactly why I would

985
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 3: say that was hold off on Houston for four day.

986
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 3: They have to play.

987
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 2: Illinois first, they play hold On they play Illinois. Yeah, okay,

988
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 2: sorry about that. You're good, You're right, My bad. I

989
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: was thinking they played Nebraska.

990
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 3: No, Nebraska takes on Iola. That should be a good

991
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,919
Speaker 3: game because in the regular season, that's good. Those two

992
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 3: teams went one to one, Iowa one in Carver Hawkeye

993
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 3: by five fifty seven. To fifty two, and then in

994
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 3: Lincoln they went to overtime. Okay, here we got regular season.

995
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: I would take Duke over Saint John's. Did you use

996
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: Duke yet?

997
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 3: I have not used the Blue Devils.

998
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: I would.

999
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: I would take Duke over Saint John's.

1000
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 3: I thought about just using Purdue against Texas. Honestly, that's

1001
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 3: not bad, although I feel like a lot of people will.

1002
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 3: So back to the point though, about what you have

1003
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 3: in this Sweet sixteen. You have a team in Michigan

1004
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 3: that has utilized the transfer portal to get the best

1005
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 3: player out of its conference, and or at least the

1006
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 3: guy that this year has been as good as anybody

1007
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 3: they Obviously, you know they have size. Glorida's Michigan and

1008
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 3: Dusty May flat out can coach. But Michigan's a program that,

1009
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 3: between its resources, its athletic department, it's a it's basketball history.

1010
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: It's not a surprise to see Michigan there. You have

1011
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: a team in Nebraska. Nebraska gets to the Sweet sixteen

1012
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 2: by winning its first two games in the history of

1013
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: its college basketball program in the NCAA Tournament. They had

1014
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 2: never won an NCAA Tournament game, and they win two

1015
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: of them. This year, and they do so with players

1016
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 2: that are veteran players. You've obviously got hoydbrog Son out

1017
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: there on the floor.

1018
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 3: Does he give you TJ mcconalvides.

1019
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:46,919
Speaker 2: A little bit?

1020
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: But at the college level, I don't see him doing

1021
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: that at the pro level.

1022
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 3: Say right, always making the hustle playing Now.

1023
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: I don't know if I should I don't know if

1024
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,320
Speaker 2: I should share this, but but it is kind of funny,

1025
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: just a pest an annoying years ago, years ago. Let

1026
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: me ask you something. You have you ever gone to

1027
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 2: j query at a gym if you go to like

1028
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: like like I got a lifetime in Castleton. Okay, they

1029
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: have a I asked this the other day. They have

1030
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 2: a in the pool area. They have a sauna, right,

1031
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 2: and the sauna, to me, there's kind of an unwritten code.

1032
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 3: It's like a library.

1033
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 2: And when you're in there and you're you're relaxing in

1034
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 2: the in the one hundred and sixty five degree wood sauna,

1035
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 2: there's kind of an like you don't go in there

1036
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: you're like, hey, man, what's up. It's more like you

1037
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 2: talk about, like, hey, what's going on?

1038
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: You know, people are there to relax, right, Like you're

1039
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 3: at a golf match or an outing or something.

1040
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 2: Kind of and the same is true. So I used

1041
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 2: to go to a different gym. But if you have

1042
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: a golf outing, you don't have to be that quiet.

1043
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. People do get.

1044
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 3: Rather rambucsious, that's right.

1045
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 2: I mean when Harley's out there hitting his drive four

1046
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 2: hundred yards, people go high five and getting rowdy.

1047
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 3: JV's doing his takeover whatever it is on whole.

1048
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: Sixteen April thirtieth.

1049
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 2: By the way, Franciscan Health Foundation benefiting from the golf

1050
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: outing that's going to be taking place at the Legends

1051
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: Golf Course one oh seveentny five of the fan dot

1052
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 2: com website. I used to go to a different gym,

1053
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 2: and in that gym, the sauna was in the men's

1054
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: locker room. This one is not the one I go

1055
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: to now, So it was you would go in the

1056
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 2: locker room whatever. And one time I went in the

1057
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: gym the sauna and there was only one other person

1058
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 2: in the sauna, and it was Fred Hoiberg when he

1059
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: was with the Pacers, and he was buck naked, no talent,

1060
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 2: no taler around the way, It's just buck naked. Good

1061
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 2: for him, just just bucket all hang nice guy buck

1062
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: naked or but either way, okay. I always saw no

1063
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: no towel towerles Fred Hoiberg, no shame in his game.

1064
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 2: But Nebraska when they go to the Sweet sixteen by

1065
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 2: winning their first two games in tournament history, I noticed

1066
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: something very interesting in the crowd. They scan the crowd.

1067
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: In the crowd, you see two guys. There was actually

1068
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: a group of four fans that they showed as they're scanning.

1069
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: Two of them are wearing Tommy Fraser jerseys and the

1070
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: other two were wearing Nebraska football helmets. Tommy Fraser one

1071
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 2: of the great college football quarterbacks of all time, and

1072
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 2: two people wearing Nebraska football helmets.

1073
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: And I immediately went.

1074
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 2: Back to my point that Nebraska football is Indiana basketball

1075
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 2: and vice versa. But here is a football school whose

1076
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: fans love football first, and they've got a coach in

1077
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 2: Fred Hoiberg who's obviously a very good coach who's been

1078
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 2: around and knows the game, and a very well coached

1079
00:58:55,680 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: and disciplined team that has a veteran skill set and

1080
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 2: poise about it that holds off Vanderbilt, and they find

1081
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: their way into the sweet sixteen, and I'm watching that

1082
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking to myself, whoever would have guessed Nebraska

1083
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 2: would be in the sweet sixteen. And then you look

1084
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: across at the teams that are in the sweet sixteen.

1085
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 2: Texas primarily football school, but has had basketball success of late.

1086
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: Obviously Houston that we mentioned under Kelvin Samson back in

1087
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: the mix.

1088
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: You know, Purdue.

1089
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 2: I talked about that earlier, the consistency of that program,

1090
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 2: Alabama football school. But they go out and they get

1091
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 2: Natos and now all of a sudden, like just loading

1092
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: up in basketball and.

1093
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: Dynamic basketball program.

1094
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: Now Arkansas you get John Caliperry and anything's possible. And

1095
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 2: as I was watching it, I was thinking to myself

1096
00:59:55,200 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 2: about how it is while it is easy to get

1097
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: tripped up in today's college basketball world, because any team

1098
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 2: can go out and get themselves a transfer player or

1099
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: two that can get red hot and knock you out

1100
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 2: at the drop of a hat, but at the same time,

1101
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: you also yourself can go out through the portal through

1102
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 2: nil and whatever else and just reload and basically refree

1103
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 2: agency yourself every year to get where you need to

1104
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:30,040
Speaker 2: be and turn things around almost overnight. And you get

1105
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 2: more like you have at Nebraska, a school that is

1106
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 2: primarily a football school now having basketball success, and then

1107
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: you have a school like Indiana that has primarily been

1108
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: a basketball school, and you have people showing up at

1109
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl wearing the candy stripe basketball warm up

1110
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 2: pants because the only outfits that Indiana fans had to

1111
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 2: support their athletic teams are ones that they bought to

1112
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: go to basketball games. But that's the world that we

1113
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: live in now. The constant turnover, the unpredictability, with all

1114
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 2: of the change that is going on, that has everybody

1115
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: essentially on this tilta world until we can figure out

1116
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: some sort of common ground or salary cap or whatever

1117
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 2: it might be. And it's for that reason, with all

1118
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 2: of the ebb and flow and the yin and yang,

1119
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 2: and the up and down and all of the different

1120
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 2: ways in which the rain drop can go down that windshield,

1121
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: that it is the most impressive that Purdue is back

1122
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 2: where they are and we can discuss and critique and

1123
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: roll our eyes till the cows come home. And notably

1124
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 2: when cows come home in Indiana, it's more it's closer

1125
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 2: to the Lafayette area than it probably is Indianapolis. Right,

1126
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 2: But we can sit here and nitpick and bring up

1127
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: Fairleigh Dickinson and Saint Peter's and Little Rock and the

1128
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: disappointments we can, and maybe that never totally goes away,

1129
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: especially when you consider that they had a back to

1130
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 2: back Wooden Award winner and that they've had the baby

1131
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: Boilers that came together and you saw what that group,

1132
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: how close it was able you know, how well they

1133
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 2: played and then fell short. Or we can talk about

1134
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 2: even further back, being a number one seed and losing

1135
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 2: the Texas before you get to the sweet sixteen, or

1136
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 2: being a co Big ten champion and getting blown out

1137
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 2: by Dwayne Schintzis and Florida. I mean, there are a

1138
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 2: number of things in produced past that we can bring up,

1139
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 2: or we can simply celebrate that when you watch the

1140
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 2: droplets on the windshield and they're going all over the place,

1141
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 2: the one that is moving along with the most consistency

1142
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: and the least deviance of its path is Purdue. And

1143
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 2: what Matt Painter and Brandon Brandley. They're big man coach

1144
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 2: who might be the most unherlded coach in the Core,

1145
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: even though he gets a lot of love for his

1146
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 2: development of big players, and PJ. Thompson, who's very at

1147
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 2: home at Purdue and has come up with really good

1148
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 2: offensive game plans. And Elliott Bloom who's the director of

1149
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 2: Ops that oversees all of it. What they've been able

1150
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 2: to do was on its greatest display yesterday, and it

1151
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 2: was on its greatest display late in the first half

1152
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:32,919
Speaker 2: because Purdue is taking on Miami, who themselves a first

1153
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: year coach that is trying to figure things out.

1154
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: But Miami's a program that's obviously had recent success.

1155
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 2: They've got Malik Renew who's familiar with Purdue as Purdue is.

1156
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 3: With with he and his chicken fingers.

1157
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 2: And yeah, but you know what he You feel for

1158
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 2: him because I thought he actually, you know, he had

1159
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 2: a pretty good year for them, right. It's a good

1160
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 2: player when he have some blooming to as well. But

1161
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 2: either way, here you have the Boilers with the preseason

1162
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 2: presumptive player of the year in Braden Smith, with an

1163
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 2: All Big Ten performer in Trey Kaufman w Rehn, with

1164
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 2: the number one rebounding player in the transfer portal in

1165
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 2: the offseason in Oscar Cluff, with the you know, a

1166
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 2: player that had a lot of international praise coming in

1167
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 2: in Meyer and all of the in Fletcher Lawyer, who

1168
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,200
Speaker 2: is a veteran and can shoot from anywhere, and when

1169
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:44,439
Speaker 2: he gets going, he's very, very tough to shut down.

1170
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 2: But getting him going is a different challenge sometimes. And

1171
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 2: in all of that, here they are against Miami and

1172
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: it's a game that feels like it's just going to

1173
01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 2: be one of those gut wrench back and forth games.

1174
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 2: And late in the first half when Miami kind of

1175
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 2: starts to take control of the game a little bit,

1176
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 2: and it felt like Miami had a chance to go

1177
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 2: into the breakup five or seven and feeling really good

1178
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 2: about themselves. And now you got a tiger by the tail.

1179
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 2: And now it's one of those games where the further

1180
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 2: you go into it, you start saying you're looking at

1181
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 2: the clock going, oh, man, like, it's not supposed to

1182
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 2: be this close, right, And so with that, by the way,

1183
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 2: let me let me shelf this to say this. The

1184
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 2: Indiana Pacers just announced this announcement just coming out. The

1185
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 2: Indiana Pacers announced that David Simon has passed away at

1186
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,439
Speaker 2: the age of sixty four. He was battling cancer. David

1187
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 2: Simon had been on this program correct, Eddie or was

1188
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 2: it Steven Simon, Steve Stevens, sorry, Steven Simon, so David

1189
01:05:56,440 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 2: would be the older of Steven. Correct, And I always

1190
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 2: forget this, so my apologies, and we may have to

1191
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 2: look it up. Stephen Simon is the son of Herb. No,

1192
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 2: can you look this up for me? Between Mel and

1193
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 2: Herb Simon. I always it's somewhat irrelevant, but I want

1194
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: to make sure that we're factually correct on which is

1195
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 2: the son of Herb and which is the son of Melvin.

1196
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 2: I know that Mel Simon had a son by the

1197
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 2: name of Max, who I knew in high school that

1198
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 2: passed away at a young age in our late twenties

1199
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 2: or early thirties, but I didn't know in terms of

1200
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 2: with Herb Simon, there is I guess when you look

1201
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 2: at so Steve is the son of Herb David, I

1202
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 2: believe maybe are they brothers or cousins if David is

1203
01:06:55,680 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: the son of Mel Simon, But the only that is

1204
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 2: Mel's son, So I believe that the a transfer, if

1205
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 2: you will, and I hate to say it that way,

1206
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 2: but in terms of the longstanding ownership of the Pacers

1207
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 2: within the family, that's still Steve I believe is the

1208
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 2: one that would be the one that is closest to that,

1209
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 2: but nonetheless that is the Simons have been a family

1210
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 2: that has been a pillar in this community, certainly, you know,

1211
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 2: beginning with the fact of mel Simon being stationed in

1212
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 2: Indianapolis for his military service, and then along with his

1213
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 2: brother Herb, starting their construction business construction but real estate,

1214
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: I guess, commercial real estate business here in Indianapolis, choosing

1215
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 2: Indianapolis as their home. And then ultimately, of course everyone

1216
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 2: knows of not just their commitment to the NBA and

1217
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 2: the Pacers franchise locally, but then through the Simon Youth

1218
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: Foundation and other philanthropies being heavily involved in different chapters

1219
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 2: in throughout the city of Indianapolis itself. And so the

1220
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 2: family itself is one that I think the city of Indianapolis,

1221
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 2: even though we still think of the origin of the

1222
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 2: Simon family as being New York, their roots ended up

1223
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 2: being here in Indianapolis, and Indianapolis as a result, has

1224
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: prospered and grown a great deal due to.

1225
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 1: The Simon family.

1226
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 2: So when there is loss or mourning within the Simon family,

1227
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 2: there is loss or mourning within the city of Indianapolis.

1228
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 2: So certainly this city offers the most heartfelt of condolences

1229
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 2: on the passing of Melvin Simon's son David at the

1230
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 2: age of sixty four from cancer.

1231
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: So that news just coming out.

1232
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 2: But the thing about Purdue, back to that Eddie that

1233
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 2: I wanted to get to, is so here they are

1234
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 2: late in the game and Purdue a program that and

1235
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 2: I mean this is no disrespect to Purdue. I mean

1236
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 2: it actually is a testament to Purdue. But when you

1237
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: think in college basketball today even still, if you stopped

1238
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 2: one hundred people on the street that are college basketball

1239
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 2: fans and said what are the big programs in college basketball?

1240
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 2: They would mention Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina, I mean, Duke obviously,

1241
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: maybe even Louisville, Michigan State before you get to Purdue.

1242
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 2: That's no disrespect to Purdue. It's just the reality of it.

1243
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:39,839
Speaker 2: And yet Purdue just keeps moving along like that droplet

1244
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 2: on the windshield, unimpeded. Right, and last night or yesterday afternoon,

1245
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 2: when that game felt as though it could get away

1246
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 2: from them, it was the player and their recruiting process

1247
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,640
Speaker 2: that bailed them out. That was overlooked by most, and

1248
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 2: it was perfectly fitting that CJ. Cox, who is their

1249
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 2: best on ball defender, and not once now but twice

1250
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 2: in tournament games, in back to back tournament games, CJ.

1251
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 2: Cox has found his rhythm and started shooting from the

1252
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 2: outside and hitting big time shots for Purdue. That changed

1253
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 2: the trajectory of where their game is going. And it's

1254
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:25,280
Speaker 2: perfectly symbolic. It's perfectly fitting that the guy that other

1255
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 2: programs overlooked, the guy that purdued, by their own admission,

1256
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 2: decided to recruit because they were looking at other players

1257
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 2: and like, well, who is this guy?

1258
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 1: Why are we not talking to him?

1259
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 2: And that attention to detail, that foresight that other schools

1260
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 2: didn't have, that ability to see the positive in something

1261
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 2: serendipitously when you were looking elsewhere, but realizing that there

1262
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: was still possibility and potential there and going after that

1263
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 2: player and getting him and developing him and making him

1264
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 2: a main part of what you're doing. And yet even

1265
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 2: though he was overlooked when he got there, now you

1266
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 2: better not overlook him, because.

1267
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,719
Speaker 1: Look what happens. He kept them in that game.

1268
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 2: CJ.

1269
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: Cox kept Purdue in that game.

1270
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 2: Now, that's not to say they couldn't have overcome if

1271
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 2: they had a seven or ten point deficit of the break,

1272
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: but they had a little bit of momentum going into

1273
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 2: the break because he hit threes on three straight I

1274
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 2: think three straight possessions kept them hanging around. And then

1275
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 2: that opens up and now Fletcher Lawyer gets going, they

1276
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 2: open a lead up and then boom, they're off and running.

1277
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 2: And you win a game where your best player, Braden

1278
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 2: Smith didn't have his best game for the second straight outing,

1279
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 2: and yet you still win because that's the definition of

1280
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 2: a team. And in the most overused word in college basketball,

1281
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:47,480
Speaker 2: college football, whatever sport you're talking about, the most overused

1282
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 2: word is culture. Everybody talks about culture, and culture is

1283
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 2: the kind of word that gets thrown around all over

1284
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:56,840
Speaker 2: the place, but it only should be used when it

1285
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 2: truly matters, and in the case of Purdue, it does.

1286
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,879
Speaker 2: They have a cold. They have a group of guys

1287
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 2: that have bought in. Sure, Braydon Smith's getting money to

1288
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 2: go to prdue, don't get me wrong, He's getting an il.

1289
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 2: So it's trakeoff and ren But you think those guys

1290
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 2: couldn't have gotten a heck of a lot more to

1291
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: go elsewhere. But they had unfinished business. At Purdue, and

1292
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 2: they had a loyalty to the program around them and

1293
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 2: the teammates on the floor with them. That is a culture.

1294
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 2: And we over use that word all the time. We

1295
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 2: talk about culture because most teams don't have it, and

1296
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 2: yet we don't use it when teams do. And what's

1297
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 2: the second syllable of the school name? Do They do

1298
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 2: have culture? And they do have an understanding of what

1299
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:52,720
Speaker 2: they need to do and they execute it. One guy

1300
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 2: goes down, another guy lifts him up. And I know that,

1301
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 2: and I understand rivalry. But you know what, there are

1302
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 2: a lot of Purdue fans. There are a lot of

1303
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 2: Purdue fans. I know because I grew up with a

1304
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:11,839
Speaker 2: lot of them. I grew up in Indianapolis. So seventy

1305
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 2: percent of my friends that went to school in state

1306
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: went to Indiana. Twenty five percent of the school my

1307
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,799
Speaker 2: friends who went to school in state went to Purdue.

1308
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 2: Five percent went mixed up amongst other schools. So I

1309
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 2: know people that went to Purdue. And you know what,

1310
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 2: Purdue fans were rooting for Indiana once it got to

1311
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: the point where Indiana was on their way, certainly when

1312
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 2: Indiana was playing Oregon, but after they beat Oregon. I

1313
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: know a lot of Purdue fans that are like, you

1314
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,560
Speaker 2: know what, I like. It's a great story. What Signette's

1315
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 2: done is unbelievable. I'd like to see Indiana. This is

1316
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 2: an incredible story. Let's see them get it done and

1317
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 2: deep down, even though none of them will admit it,

1318
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 2: Indiana fans, it's time for you to do the same

1319
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 2: for Purdue, because here they are once again by sticking

1320
01:13:56,120 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 2: true to who they are and not getting swiped up

1321
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 2: in or caught up in the variables that redirect the

1322
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 2: trajectory of a program. Perdue has stuck by who they are,

1323
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 2: and somehow or another, in an era where you have

1324
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 2: a school going to the Sweet sixteen with fans wearing

1325
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 2: football helmets, and a school going to the Sweet sixteen

1326
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 2: by going out and spending a ton of money in

1327
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 2: nil and getting transfer graduate transfers, and a school like

1328
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,959
Speaker 2: Kentucky that reportedly had twenty two million in the payroll

1329
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 2: and gets bounced, or Kansas that had a guy whose

1330
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 2: agent was telling the coach how many minutes he was

1331
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 2: going to play and gets bounced, and Perdue just says,

1332
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 2: you know, what we have here is a group of

1333
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 2: guys that want to play for Purdue. Yes, of course

1334
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 2: they're getting theirs. I get it, but they bought in

1335
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 2: and I think it. Indiana fans should look at it

1336
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,560
Speaker 2: and say, you know what cool, and Purdue fans you

1337
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 2: should absolutely be proud of it. Does that mean Prue's

1338
01:14:56,680 --> 01:15:00,759
Speaker 2: going to be Texas? I have no idea Sean Miller.

1339
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 2: That represents a lot of the different things, a lot

1340
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 2: of those different variables that keep the water bead dancing

1341
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 2: all over the windshield. Sean Miller at Texas, what they've done,

1342
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 2: lost for their last five I think in the regular season,

1343
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 2: but now they turn it around and here they are.

1344
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 2: They had to play their way in, they're playing well

1345
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 2: and they're in the sweet sixteen. You know they're Texas.

1346
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a big time program, big time conference,

1347
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 2: played big time competition. There's not a lot you're going

1348
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:32,440
Speaker 2: to do against Texas they haven't seen before. But Purdue

1349
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 2: represents in the different looks, in the different personalities of

1350
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 2: college basketball. Purdue is the closest we have of all

1351
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,559
Speaker 2: of them to a throwback. And how long can they

1352
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: sustain in doing it this way? I don't know the

1353
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 2: answer to that, but I know they're there and I'm

1354
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 2: here for it, and I think it's cool. Baseball season

1355
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 2: is getting underway. This week is opening week, correct, Eddie.

1356
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 2: Wednesday Night is another one of those who are like,

1357
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 2: did somebody play three weeks ago in like Taiwan and

1358
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 2: we're just now finding out about it And that actually

1359
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 2: was opening Day?

1360
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 1: They did that one year, right, Well.

1361
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 3: They've done that each the last two years. I think

1362
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,799
Speaker 3: they played in Tokyo and then Korea.

1363
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:18,280
Speaker 2: Hey, Jake, we didn't root for IU. We don't want

1364
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 2: IU fans rooting for us. Okay, I'm telling you there

1365
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 2: are plenty of Purdue fans that were happy to see

1366
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 2: Kurtzignette's Indiana group went it all.

1367
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 3: And for those of you wondering, oh, well, who is

1368
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 3: the opener of the season. The New York Yankees and

1369
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 3: the San Francisco Giants. And it's not on cable television,

1370
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 3: it's on Netflix.

1371
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 2: On Netflix. Hopefully they can stream that better than they

1372
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 2: did that Tyson fight that once. Okay, here's what we're

1373
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 2: gonna do on the other side. And I've decided, Eddie,

1374
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:49,440
Speaker 2: that I'm playing this responsibly.

1375
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh, like you're wagering.

1376
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 2: We're gonna get one listener like we did last year. Okay,

1377
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:01,440
Speaker 2: one listener to participate in our baseball game, but we can't.

1378
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,600
Speaker 2: It would be ridiculous to say that a listener. So

1379
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 2: a listener has a chance to win, but they're not

1380
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 2: going to owe anything if they don't. If they don't win,

1381
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 2: But we do the baseball game. Here's how we do it.

1382
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:14,960
Speaker 2: We do it every year. We did it last year.

1383
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 2: Eddie won last year. I have before me every team

1384
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball this year that, according to Las

1385
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 2: Vegas odds makers they're over under is fewer than eighty

1386
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 2: two games. I have every team listed. You get to

1387
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 2: pick two teams. You get to pick two teams, and

1388
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 2: whoever has the highest win total between Eddie, myself and

1389
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 2: the listener wins a fabulous prize. It's very So I'll

1390
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 2: buy a hat of your team. That's your prize, and

1391
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,600
Speaker 2: you owe us nothing. Eddie and I will have some

1392
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 2: wager between us, but you owe us nothing. But I

1393
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,479
Speaker 2: need a listener that wants to participate in the game,

1394
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 2: and preferably a listener that is a fan of Major

1395
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 2: League Baseball. We step aside from March madness for a second.

1396
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 2: We get back into Pacers at two o'clock. Brandon Godden

1397
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:06,600
Speaker 2: going to join us coming up at two thirty, so

1398
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 2: plenty of basketball talk. But on the other side, nine

1399
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 2: ten seventy we will take you will be the third

1400
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 2: person in this game. So caller number three, please be

1401
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 2: a baseball fan and be prepared for the nuances of

1402
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 2: the odd rules of this on the fly made up game.

1403
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 3: Yes, and a regular listener of the show. That'd be helpful.

1404
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 3: You're not in your car with a broken radio or

1405
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 3: a or in a rental car that's just got a

1406
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 3: grid locked on ninety.

1407
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 2: Three and we know they do that at all the

1408
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:35,640
Speaker 2: retal card places.

1409
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, two, nine ten seventy. We'll do it all next. Okay,

1410
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 1: Damon is going to partake in our thrilling game that.

1411
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 2: Is sweeping the nation.

1412
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,680
Speaker 1: Let's get Damon on the line here, Damon.

1413
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 2: How are you good?

1414
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 6: How are you?

1415
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm okay? Are you a big baseball fan? Damon?

1416
01:18:56,040 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 3: I think so. There's your team, Tiger, Oh Tigers, So

1417
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:02,120
Speaker 3: then yeah.

1418
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 1: He is Damon.

1419
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 2: I have a theory here, okay On, and let me

1420
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:11,479
Speaker 2: run past the options before you give me your answer. Okay,

1421
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 2: I have a theory on how people come up with

1422
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 2: a favorite team in sport and more often than not,

1423
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 2: and there are exceptions.

1424
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 1: For example, a guy used to work with Dan Metler.

1425
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 2: Great dude, he's a diehard Giants fan because his first

1426
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 2: job out of school, he lived in San Francisco, didn't

1427
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 2: know a lot of people, and so he would go

1428
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 2: out and watch Giants games.

1429
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 1: Now he's a huge fan, right, I get that.

1430
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 2: But if it's somebody that you grow up watching, like

1431
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 2: if your fandom is a long standing fandom, typically I

1432
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 2: find it to be one of four reasons. A You

1433
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 2: either whoever introduced you to the game, dad, uncle, brother,

1434
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 2: or whatever. It was their favorite team or the rival

1435
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 2: of the favorite team, and so you chose that to

1436
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:54,120
Speaker 2: make it fun. B the first World Series that you

1437
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 2: recall watching as a kid. You chose that team because

1438
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 2: you liked the colors versus the other. See you got

1439
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 2: like a baseball card of a or a hat of

1440
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,599
Speaker 2: this team when you were a kid. Or lastly, it

1441
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 2: was the team that you had as a little league team,

1442
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 2: like your first little league team, unless you grew up

1443
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 2: in the city where like if you're from Detroit, that

1444
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 2: changes it. Which option, if any, is applicable as to

1445
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 2: why you're a Tigers fan.

1446
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 3: Well, the last one that wasn't one of the options.

1447
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 7: I grew up there.

1448
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: Okay, So and you how long have you lived in Indy?

1449
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 7: Twenty five years?

1450
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:31,720
Speaker 2: Okay? And do you are you? Are you like most

1451
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 2: people from Detroit? And the fact that it's Detroit versus everybody?

1452
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:36,240
Speaker 2: Like you love Detroit and everything about Detroit.

1453
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 4: Oh, I love everything out about Detroit.

1454
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,800
Speaker 7: I don't think it's Detroit versus everybody though.

1455
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, when I'm going up there, I'm going

1456
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:46,759
Speaker 2: to buy myself a Shanola watch just because I've always

1457
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:48,600
Speaker 2: wanted one. Do you own a Shanola watch? That's the

1458
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 2: pride of Detroit? Right, No, it's not the pride of Detroit.

1459
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 2: Or you don't own the watch?

1460
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:55,759
Speaker 7: No watches?

1461
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 4: Okay, you're the only one with watches.

1462
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 1: I'm the only person with watches.

1463
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:07,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, really does have one? I do not see?

1464
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,759
Speaker 2: So wait, wait a minute. So it's not Detroit versus everybody,

1465
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 2: but when it comes to watches, it's you guys. Are everybody?

1466
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:15,000
Speaker 2: Is that right?

1467
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 6: Well, it's it's Jake and his watch collection, right.

1468
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 1: Okay, do you find my watch collection neurotic?

1469
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,600
Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying, oh no, no, it's just

1470
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 2: what you are. All right, all right, here's how we

1471
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 2: do this. Okay, I have listed before me all of

1472
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 2: the teams. Now it's Damon, right, did I get the

1473
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:34,639
Speaker 2: name right?

1474
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 7: Yep?

1475
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Damon, Okay, So Damon, I'm gonna list the teams.

1476
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna do this in and and and don't take

1477
01:21:40,240 --> 01:21:42,280
Speaker 2: a lot of time because we're gonna do it quickly.

1478
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 2: Each of us is gonna get two teams. Okay, you

1479
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 2: get the select, but at the end of this exercise, Damon,

1480
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 2: you're gonna get two teams. If if if your two

1481
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 2: teams come up with a higher win total than Eddie's

1482
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 2: two teams are my two teams, then I'm gonna buy

1483
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 2: for you, Damon, a Major League Baseball hat of one

1484
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,880
Speaker 2: of the two teams that you select. So will not

1485
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 2: be the Tigers because they are not an option here. Okay,

1486
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 2: so my apologies on that. But here are the teams

1487
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 2: that all are According to Las Vegas odds makers believe

1488
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:17,200
Speaker 2: to have basically a five hundred or less year when

1489
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:26,560
Speaker 2: it comes to the win loss total this year. Giants, Reds, Diamondbacks, Guardians, Pirates, Rays, Athletics, Marlins, Twins, Angels, Cardinals,

1490
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,719
Speaker 2: White Sox, Nationals, and Rockies.

1491
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 1: Okay, I will give you now.

1492
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 2: So you're looking at the teams that you think are

1493
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,720
Speaker 2: going to have the best record amongst this group, and

1494
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 2: because you're our guest, dam and we're giving you the

1495
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 2: very first choice. Go ahead.

1496
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 4: I'm on the Giant.

1497
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: Okay, Eddie, you are the defending champion, so you get

1498
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 1: pick number two.

1499
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 2: You go ahead.

1500
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 3: I was gonna give it to you, Jake, because I

1501
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 3: am the CHAMPI I should go last.

1502
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, based on this, I'm gonna go. You know

1503
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 2: the team that I'll go with the Guardians.

1504
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:04,879
Speaker 3: So you and Guardians and Damon went Giants.

1505
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 2: Correct.

1506
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 3: I guess I will take Arizona.

1507
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 2: The Arizona Diamondbacks for Eddie. Okay, you're back on the board.

1508
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 2: Let me give you the teams that are available here. Damon.

1509
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 2: You've got the Reds, You've got the Pirates, Rays, Athletics,

1510
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 2: the Marlins, the Twins, the Angels, the Cardinals, the White Sox,

1511
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 2: the Nationals, and the Rockies.

1512
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:30,640
Speaker 4: Go with the A's.

1513
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: Ohoh, the Athletics for day.

1514
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 2: All right? I like that. All Right, I guess I'm

1515
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 2: gonna have to go with the White Sox just because

1516
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 2: I pick them every year. They're terrible, but we go

1517
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 2: to a game every year and that's our tradition, and

1518
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 2: I'm locking in my tickets.

1519
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 1: I'll go with the White Sox, Eddie, you get one

1520
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 1: more pick here.

1521
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:53,799
Speaker 3: I will go with the Pittsburgh Pirates.

1522
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not bad.

1523
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 3: I think they're going to be decent, right I do too, unfortunately.

1524
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean you have the Giants, you went Bay

1525
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 2: Area all the way around, You've been to the Bay Area.

1526
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 2: You have the eighty nine earthquake series.

1527
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:08,600
Speaker 7: I was watching it.

1528
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's your Let me get damon, how old a

1529
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 2: fella are you? If you don't mind me asking, uh, sixty,

1530
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 2: sixty or nine years older than myself? I'm gonna guess

1531
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,600
Speaker 2: that your favorite pirate of all taught, or excuse me,

1532
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 2: tiger of all time.

1533
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with Alan Trammel. No way, uh, Sweet.

1534
01:24:26,720 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 4: Lou Whittaker, No, you gotta go older than that.

1535
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was gonna say you're nine if you're seven

1536
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:33,560
Speaker 2: years older than I. But I'm trying to think of

1537
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 2: who who was big chet Lemon? Was chet Lemon a

1538
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 2: little before then?

1539
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,720
Speaker 4: That was all the same team, that's right. But I

1540
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 4: like the donut guy, Mickey Lolitch.

1541
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough?

1542
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,759
Speaker 2: Now where was wasn't It wasn't Mark the burd Fidrich.

1543
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 2: Wasn't he a tiger?

1544
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1545
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 7: He was for sure?

1546
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 1: Uh but that was that was a kind of a

1547
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 1: flash in the pan.

1548
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 4: Right he never lived in the pitch count hero, that's

1549
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 4: for sure.

1550
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 2: Fair enough? All right? Well, and you know what, Damon, Actually,

1551
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,600
Speaker 2: if you'd like, if you win this fabulous game, you

1552
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 2: want me to get you just an inexpensive watch instead

1553
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 2: of a hat. We need to get you a watch.

1554
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 7: We could do that.

1555
01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 4: That's fine.

1556
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 2: I'll get your Shino, right, I'll get a little slice

1557
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 2: a home because I can tell you to be thrilled

1558
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 2: by that. All right, David, I appreciate you listening to

1559
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 2: the program and participating in our fabulous, non award winning

1560
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 2: little game that we do here.

1561
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 7: How often will you update the results for us?

1562
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 2: You know, that's an excellent question, Damon, And thank you

1563
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 2: for asking.

1564
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: We did.

1565
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 2: Damon. Here's the thing, and I'm gonna give you. I'm

1566
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,040
Speaker 2: gonna spill a little secret for you here. What line

1567
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 2: of work are you in? Damon?

1568
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 3: Finance?

1569
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 2: Finance, everything going okay in the financial world, Oh yeah, okay,

1570
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what's the dry period when it comes

1571
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,400
Speaker 2: to finance, Like, what's the time of year in finance

1572
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 2: where it's you know, it's a good time.

1573
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 3: To April sixteenth.

1574
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, that makes sense.

1575
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,800
Speaker 2: So when we get into doing sports talk radio, we

1576
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 2: get it around late June early July. That's basically our

1577
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 2: April sixteenth. So during that time, what better way to

1578
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 2: kick off a little time than update where Damon stands

1579
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 2: in our fabulous baseball game. So you'll have to be

1580
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 2: listening to the show, but we will periodically just randomly

1581
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:13,920
Speaker 2: drop in updates over the course of the season. I

1582
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 2: promise you that got it. We did it last year.

1583
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:18,720
Speaker 2: Appreciated dam but we did it last year. But Eddy

1584
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 2: kind of ran away with it because you had the

1585
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 2: Blue Jays last year, didn't you any I did.

1586
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 3: I did have the Blue Jays and the Marlins, two

1587
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:27,719
Speaker 3: teams that I'll perform. There's preseason expectations and I feel

1588
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 3: like I got two teams that'll do that again this year.

1589
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 2: Baseball is just such a random sport, though, because you

1590
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 2: have teams that you know like that, right, and then

1591
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they turn around the next year

1592
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 2: and like, what in the world happened? Or teams that

1593
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: you know, the whole world is expected of them, and

1594
01:26:42,120 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 2: it's like this is going to be just the summer

1595
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:44,919
Speaker 2: of dreams.

1596
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 1: It just never takes off.

1597
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 3: Is it Is it bad that I didn't take the

1598
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 3: Reds with them on the board there, nobody took them.

1599
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 3: They're right there on the board, are decent, they could

1600
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 3: break out, but I mean, they've already got a hundred

1601
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 3: green dealing with any injury. He's their star pitcher. Can

1602
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 3: they get consistent with the offense all questions?

1603
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I realized that the dumbest thing to do

1604
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 2: is to take the White Sox.

1605
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 3: Even though Tricia Whitteker told us that she thinks the

1606
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 3: Reds are the sleeper this year, she did. She did

1607
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 3: tell us.

1608
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 2: She also said she'd like the athletics too, right, No,

1609
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 2: she said, a couple of years away. I said, the

1610
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 2: athletics have a good core young Corey. I've always felt

1611
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 2: this way.

1612
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 3: I like Jacob Wilson, Tyler Soderstrom, Nick.

1613
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 2: Kurtz, the always felt if you look at teams that

1614
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 2: have surprising seasons of where it all comes together, you know,

1615
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 2: what your stars are going to do. It's when you're

1616
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 2: if you can get two to three platoon journeymen to

1617
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 2: have career years in the same season, that's what turns

1618
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 2: teams around. Yeah, you know I covered the same that

1619
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 2: the Cardinals in two thousand when they won the division. Yes,

1620
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 2: you knew that Will Clark was you know, was a

1621
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 2: great player and a great acquisition. And you knew that.

1622
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 2: You know, they had great Maguire was a great player, right,

1623
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 2: But when you had career years of craigpark At, Mike

1624
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 2: Matheni and Fernando Tatis simultaneous, that's what that gel.

1625
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,799
Speaker 1: That's what puts you over the hump, so to speak.

1626
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 2: We'll get you caught up as well on our other game,

1627
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 2: that being the numbers game. We'll let you know the

1628
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 2: latest on that, because something happened this weekend in the

1629
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 2: NCAA tournament that Eddie asked a good question. I'm not

1630
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 2: certain how many times it's even happened before, and it

1631
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 2: did impact our game.

1632
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 1: I'll let you know about it next his Austy Asbourn

1633
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 1: on strike.

1634
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened there?

1635
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 1: Do I need to take over there?

1636
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:40,759
Speaker 3: I don't know what just killed.

1637
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 1: Did we have a chipmunk.

1638
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 2: We have a chipmunk that runs our music for us,

1639
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 2: and I thought he quit smoking.

1640
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:48,719
Speaker 1: Now he's back on the smoke break.

1641
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 2: Is that right?

1642
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 1: Is our chipmunk back on the smoking ban. We had

1643
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 1: him doing that for a while.

1644
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 2: We got him off that, we got him back on

1645
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 2: the lung duards, and now he's out taking another smoking Okay,

1646
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 2: well there you going going out in there, Hey, Jake,

1647
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: This from my cousin.

1648
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,759
Speaker 1: I saw. This is unbelievable. My cousin saw.

1649
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:05,840
Speaker 2: Jack Morris pitch a no hitter at Tiger Stadium in

1650
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:07,880
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy nine, right there on the corner of Michigan

1651
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:08,839
Speaker 2: and Trumble in Detroit.

1652
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 1: I've been to.

1653
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 2: I don't even know how many major League Baseball games

1654
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:20,320
Speaker 2: I've been to. It has to be if you had

1655
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 2: to guess, Eddie, how many major League Baseball games would

1656
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:23,839
Speaker 2: you say you've been to in your life?

1657
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,839
Speaker 3: I don't even know if I had to guess forty

1658
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 3: to fifty.

1659
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna bet, And keep in mind, for two

1660
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 2: seasons I covered a major League team, so I mean, yeah,

1661
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:37,799
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I would bet my numbers

1662
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 2: somewhere around three fifty. I've never even seen I've never

1663
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 2: really been to a game where you know, when you

1664
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 2: get the point in the game where a pitcher has

1665
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 2: a no no going and so like players start not

1666
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,679
Speaker 2: talking to them. I've never even been to that point.

1667
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 2: I've never even seen that get seen to get that close.

1668
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:57,759
Speaker 2: Two things that have never.

1669
01:29:57,640 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 3: Happened I have.

1670
01:29:58,960 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 2: Have you really?

1671
01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:03,639
Speaker 3: Yes? How is that? Colorado? This was two years ago?

1672
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:07,719
Speaker 3: Is the Rockies and the Giants. The Rockies were winning

1673
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 3: one and nothing, but they had no hitter.

1674
01:30:11,240 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 2: And that's weird too, because I don't know if you

1675
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 2: know this or not, but you walk down the street

1676
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 2: in Denver, everybody's getting to hit, right, yeah.

1677
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 1: And so what inning did it go into?

1678
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 3: I think it went to the eighth, eighth inning.

1679
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 1: And I've asked you this before, and I think you're

1680
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 1: like Derek Schultzen.

1681
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 3: This which I sho is seventh inning, seventh inning.

1682
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 1: So you're a Reds fan, right, yes, sir? If you

1683
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 1: went to a Reds.

1684
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:40,960
Speaker 2: Middle of June game, Let's say there's six games out

1685
01:30:40,960 --> 01:30:41,919
Speaker 2: of first in the middle.

1686
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 3: Of June, Okay, very could very well be the case.

1687
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 2: How far into the game and answer, honestly, here Okay, no,

1688
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 2: like radio, I mean, answer honestly, how far into the

1689
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 2: game is the opposing pitcher need to be with a

1690
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 2: no hitter when you flip and you are actually rooting

1691
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 2: to see the no hitter?

1692
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 3: Never? Yeah, come on man, never. Yeah, I'm not flipping

1693
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 3: on my team that I root for. Oh I'm not

1694
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 3: saying it's so cool to see my No, No.

1695
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 2: You would not want to see. Okay, what about a

1696
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 2: perfect game? Still no, So I just I will never

1697
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,280
Speaker 2: understand that because.

1698
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 3: You're a fan. In this case, I'm a fan. I

1699
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 3: don't want to see my team get etched into history

1700
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 3: in the wrong way.

1701
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 1: I mean, but.

1702
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 2: Think about this, how many perfect games have been thrown

1703
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 2: in the history Major League Baseball?

1704
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: Like twenty four?

1705
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 3: I think it's twenty six.

1706
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you are you have a chance to witness

1707
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:53,839
Speaker 2: something that literally points zero zero one percent of games

1708
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 2: have ever had happen.

1709
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:55,840
Speaker 3: And it is twenty four.

1710
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Still no, okay, No, Well, I was at a

1711
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 2: game I told you last year when we went to

1712
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 2: our White Sox game. The guy had a no hitter

1713
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 2: through like six and I say to Shannon, like, this

1714
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:10,000
Speaker 2: guy's got a no hitter. No, he doesn't. The last

1715
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 2: guy hit one right to the center fielder. No, no, no, no,

1716
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 2: So I explained the no hitter. I'm like, we can't leave,

1717
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 2: and then right after that it gets broken up. Whatever,

1718
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 2: it's a regular three to two game, whatever else. We

1719
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 2: leave in the end of the eighth inning, you know,

1720
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 2: to beat traffic because when there's forty two hundred people there,

1721
01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 2: you want to make sure you're not caught in the

1722
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 2: Dan Ryan. So we get in the car and the

1723
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:35,680
Speaker 2: game ends. The game ends on an immaculate inning. Yeah,

1724
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:38,560
Speaker 2: the twelfth time in the history of Major League Baseball

1725
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 2: that a pitcher throws an immaculate inning to win a game.

1726
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:45,160
Speaker 3: And I believe that pitcher mike was Michael Kopek because

1727
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 3: I think this was too out of me two years ago,

1728
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:49,600
Speaker 3: because Jimmy Cook was still part of the program. Was

1729
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 3: it two years ago, Yeah, somewhere around that, because Michael

1730
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 3: Kopek was the pitcher for the White Sox and he

1731
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:57,760
Speaker 3: got dealt to Los Angeles to be a Dodger at

1732
01:32:57,800 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 3: the deadline.

1733
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 2: I mean, if you've got a chance, like I've never

1734
01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:06,120
Speaker 2: even been close to seeing any of those, I think

1735
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 2: it depends on your other than the immaculate ending and

1736
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 2: we left early. What's that?

1737
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 3: I think it just depends on your level of fandom.

1738
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:12,800
Speaker 3: Like for me, I live in Breeze Baseball and I

1739
01:33:12,840 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 3: love baseball, so I am all.

1740
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 2: The more reason you should be able to appreciate witnessing

1741
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 2: a perfect game.

1742
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:21,559
Speaker 3: Sure I can appreciate it, but no, not against my team.

1743
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I I'd like to know. And

1744
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 2: I've had this discussion on radio before, but I'd like

1745
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:29,960
Speaker 2: to know what the majority of people would say.

1746
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:32,639
Speaker 3: Can you name the picture who threw the last perfect game?

1747
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:36,000
Speaker 3: Happened in twenty twenty three?

1748
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 2: No, I should know. I mean, I I what franch

1749
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 2: Is it a Marquie pitcher or was it a complete

1750
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:46,439
Speaker 2: one off? Complete one off? Yeah?

1751
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 3: No, Domingo Herman with the New York Yankees did it

1752
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:52,679
Speaker 3: in under one hundred pitches too, ninety nine.

1753
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's unbelievable.

1754
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:57,960
Speaker 3: I remember watching that game that was at the Coliseum.

1755
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 2: I just think I'd say, if I get if we're

1756
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 2: going into the eighth and I'm seeing a guy throw

1757
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 2: a no hitter or a perfect game, I am okay,

1758
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 2: how about this, Eddie, here's a better way of saying it.

1759
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 2: And you have to answer honestly.

1760
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 3: How about this. Nick chimes in on the text line,

1761
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 3: I've seen two no hitters. One was twice goodines against

1762
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 3: the Mariners the first time that Nick went to Old

1763
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 3: Yankee Stadium.

1764
01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, unbelievable. Okay, answer honestly. You're a Reds fan. Yes,

1765
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 2: your only friend, Alex goes Hey, I got two tickets

1766
01:34:37,560 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 2: for a Reds Wednesday night game.

1767
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 1: They're taking on It's an interleague game and they're taking.

1768
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 2: On the Rangers. Okay, you drive down for it. Reds

1769
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 2: are eleven games out of first in the middle of June.

1770
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:58,200
Speaker 2: Rangers are thirteen games out of first. Totally innocuous game.

1771
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 2: You drive down there. There's eleven thousand people scattered around

1772
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 2: Great American Ballpark. Okay, the Rangers pitcher throws a perfect

1773
01:35:08,240 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 2: game for the twenty fifth time in the history of

1774
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,080
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, in the history of Major League Baseball,

1775
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 2: the twenty fifth time guy throws a perfect game. Okay,

1776
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 2: do you stand up and applaud his final out? No?

1777
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:26,760
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I mean I'd have been that way.

1778
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:27,559
Speaker 2: When I was like I.

1779
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 3: Would probably be like, oh my gosh, that did not

1780
01:35:30,439 --> 01:35:30,800
Speaker 3: just happen?

1781
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 1: Did tip? Will you tip your cap.

1782
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 3: I would tip my cap. Yeah, I would not applaud hey,

1783
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,679
Speaker 3: nice job. I'd even tip my cap more to the catcher,

1784
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 3: because you know that's his job to call the game.

1785
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:49,960
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough. Uh. Pacers by the way, wrapping up here,

1786
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:51,920
Speaker 2: and they got two of them at home this week,

1787
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 2: and we're gonna get into that dustined to up here.

1788
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 2: I will join us on the other side from the

1789
01:35:56,760 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 2: Indianapolis Star talking Pacers. We'll get back into the NCAA tournament.

1790
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 2: Purdue with the Sweet sixteen still dancing, we'll get into

1791
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 2: all of the next. Ball State has a new head

1792
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 2: basketball coach, by the way, Chris CapCo, who worked for

1793
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 2: and I'm assuming it's CapCo, not cape Co, but kind

1794
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 2: of the right hand man for Andy Enfeld and helping

1795
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 2: build rosters at both USC and Southern Methodist. And he

1796
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 2: is arriving today in the state of Indiana. I think

1797
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 2: he's going to join us on the program, hopefully on Wednesday.

1798
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:32,840
Speaker 2: We'll see what day we are able to get that

1799
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:36,040
Speaker 2: conversation lined up. But ball State with a new head

1800
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 2: basketball coach. I think he's the twenty first coach in

1801
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:42,719
Speaker 2: ball State history joining us now on the JAVA House

1802
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 2: Colbrew Coffee guest line. He is with the Indianapolis Star. Now,

1803
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 2: even though I now and I'm very proud of it,

1804
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 2: have mastered saying the last name, we still utilize Eddie

1805
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:57,760
Speaker 2: Sounders from time time, Dustin joining the program. Dustin, We'll

1806
01:36:57,760 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 2: get the Pacers in a second. I'm going to begin

1807
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 2: with this, Okay, on a in work with me here

1808
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 2: on the line of questioning. The first is on a

1809
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 2: one to ten scale. I would like to know your

1810
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 2: baseball fandom as a kid was what number in terms

1811
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 2: of how much you followed Major League Baseball?

1812
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:15,759
Speaker 7: Like a hundred?

1813
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 2: Okay, and I'm assuming a lot. Yeah, grew up in Pittsburgh.

1814
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:23,519
Speaker 2: So you're a Pirates fan, right, yes? Okay, So here's

1815
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 2: my question, and I need you to answer this with

1816
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 2: total honesty. Okay, yep. So you decide to go over

1817
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 2: to P and C Park and watch your beloved Pirates

1818
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:35,960
Speaker 2: play on a Wednesday afternoon game. You got it, a

1819
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:37,840
Speaker 2: little time off, you drive over. It's five and a

1820
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:40,240
Speaker 2: half hour drive, beautiful ballpark. I'm going to go see

1821
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 2: my Pirates.

1822
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 4: Right.

1823
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:43,839
Speaker 2: This is in the middle of June, and the Pirates

1824
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:45,600
Speaker 2: got a decent year going. But let's say at the

1825
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:49,840
Speaker 2: time that you go, they're nine games out of first okay, yep,

1826
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 2: and they're going to take on it's an interleague game,

1827
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:54,240
Speaker 2: and they're taking on a team that in the American

1828
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 2: League is just kind of a team that's there. You

1829
01:37:56,560 --> 01:38:00,720
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of animosity nor rooting interest on

1830
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 2: said team. I'll just say, for example, the Minnesota Twins. Okay, okay,

1831
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 2: sure totally. You know, a pretty harmless game, but a

1832
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:13,360
Speaker 2: beautiful day at the ballpark. So you go there, you

1833
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:16,200
Speaker 2: look up and notice as the game is going on,

1834
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 2: you're midway through the seventh when you realize that the

1835
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 2: pitcher for Minnesota has a perfect game going. Yeah, twenty

1836
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 2: four times in the history of Major League Baseball. Twenty

1837
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:31,200
Speaker 2: four times in the history of Major League Baseball, somebody

1838
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:34,360
Speaker 2: has accomplished the feat of throwing a perfect game. And

1839
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:38,639
Speaker 2: here you, Dustin Nopirek, have the opportunity to witness something

1840
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 2: that has happened. I would imagine one one thousandth of

1841
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:44,840
Speaker 2: a percentage of the time that teams have taken to

1842
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 2: the field in Major League Baseball. At what point in

1843
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 2: the game do you find yourself setting your pirate allegiance

1844
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:59,080
Speaker 2: aside in order to cheer for or hope for seeing

1845
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 2: baseball history.

1846
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 7: What's the score? How many twins test?

1847
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:06,440
Speaker 1: It's three nots in Minnesota?

1848
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 7: M M. If the Pirates are in it, So first off,

1849
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:14,200
Speaker 7: let's think about this part. Like the Pirates haven't been

1850
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 7: in it in a decade, so you know, like like

1851
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 7: the thirteen to fifteen seasons were a lot of fun,

1852
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 7: but they haven't been in it for a decade. And

1853
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:25,040
Speaker 7: if this team is in it, and you know, I

1854
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:27,000
Speaker 7: saw like somebody had a projection for them to finish

1855
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 7: eighty four and seventy eight and two games back to

1856
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 7: the Cups. So if they're in it, if by this

1857
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:34,400
Speaker 7: point Connor Griffin's called up schemes the deal and like

1858
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 7: these other hitters are hidden and they've got a shot there.

1859
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 1: It's it's mid June, and they're eleven out of first.

1860
01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 7: They're eleven out of first. That's why I say things

1861
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:45,479
Speaker 7: are going things are going sideways. Okay, if things are

1862
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:49,760
Speaker 7: going sideways, then probably the eighth I would say is

1863
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:51,639
Speaker 7: about when you when you buy all the way.

1864
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:55,639
Speaker 2: In, do you do you clap so that the the

1865
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 2: individual completes the perfect game?

1866
01:39:59,600 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 3: M hm?

1867
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:01,360
Speaker 2: Do you applaud?

1868
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1869
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:08,040
Speaker 1: See, So what does show what you're saying psychopath and mature.

1870
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:10,720
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm a psychopath because I said no to both

1871
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 3: of those things.

1872
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 7: I don't say psychopath. But it's different, like if they're

1873
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:20,280
Speaker 7: eleven back. First off, if the Pirates are eleven back,

1874
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 7: like by mid June, then this is not going well

1875
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,600
Speaker 7: and it'll be like every other season I've seen for

1876
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:33,400
Speaker 7: the the majority of my life, basically outside of like

1877
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 7: ninety to ninety two and thirteen to fifteen, like, other

1878
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:39,440
Speaker 7: than those three year pockets of time, they've been pretty horrendous.

1879
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 7: So it's like I've seen them lose a billion games,

1880
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 7: Like it's it's fine to see them lose a game.

1881
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 7: It's historic and at a certain point, I mean, I

1882
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:50,720
Speaker 7: think even if they lose one nothing like and I've

1883
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:53,680
Speaker 7: rooted for them to every batter all the way, I'll

1884
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:56,479
Speaker 7: still applaud when the guys towards perfect game because that's history.

1885
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, like I mean, I like, I

1886
01:40:58,960 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 7: don't think I think that.

1887
01:41:00,280 --> 01:41:01,719
Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you.

1888
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:03,639
Speaker 7: You're sharing each out in the night.

1889
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:05,839
Speaker 1: When's the last time you saw the Pirates play in Pittsburgh?

1890
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:11,679
Speaker 7: When did we go last? I want to say when

1891
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:12,719
Speaker 7: was this twenty two?

1892
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:15,360
Speaker 2: Who they played? Who they play?

1893
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:16,759
Speaker 7: The Yankees?

1894
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:17,839
Speaker 1: What was the final?

1895
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 2: Oh?

1896
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, see exactly right, exactly.

1897
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:24,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't remember the exactly remember the final.

1898
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:31,600
Speaker 1: But but my point being a perfect game, you know

1899
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:32,000
Speaker 1: what I mean.

1900
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 2: You're like, if I would ask that it was perfect game, like,

1901
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, listen to this, and you know we'd

1902
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:38,839
Speaker 2: be spending more time on it than we have. Okay,

1903
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 2: let's get to the Pacers here. Pacers are heading down

1904
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 2: the home stretch. I'm going to begin with a different

1905
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 2: variable on this instead of talking about their upcoming game.

1906
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:52,719
Speaker 2: They are in Orlando tonight. Then they've got the Lakers

1907
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:58,280
Speaker 2: here on Wednesday. Yeah, we know now that they have

1908
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 2: to hold onto their top four pick and order to

1909
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 2: hold on to it, right, they've got to be one

1910
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 2: through four or to get otherwise it goes to Clippers.

1911
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1912
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 2: I loved Debonsa from BYU love him. And this has

1913
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:12,720
Speaker 2: been theoretically dustin a three horse race between Peterson of

1914
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:16,240
Speaker 2: Kansas De Bonsa and as well Cambooser of Duke as

1915
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:19,840
Speaker 2: to who is like the prize? Right, but do we

1916
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:22,719
Speaker 2: have a late entry here? And I say late entry,

1917
01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:27,640
Speaker 2: but I watched Arkansas this weekend. I've seen them a

1918
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 2: bit this year. I see a little bit of Anthony Edwards,

1919
01:42:31,360 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 2: like just get out of my way. I'm going to

1920
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:35,479
Speaker 2: win this game for my team and a cup that

1921
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 2: I really like that I don't see out of Peterson,

1922
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:42,040
Speaker 2: for example. Is he somebody that could enter into that

1923
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:43,719
Speaker 2: conversation with the other three.

1924
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:46,479
Speaker 7: I think they had to consider it. I mean, I

1925
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:49,160
Speaker 7: still there's stuff I like about Peterson.

1926
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,600
Speaker 1: That what I mean, I guess I.

1927
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 2: Think, in all honesty, I want to know what it

1928
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 2: is out of Peterson that you like.

1929
01:42:56,200 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 7: I mean when he shoots it, well, like it's you know,

1930
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:02,840
Speaker 7: like I mean, it's just just like he like it's

1931
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 7: the form of the everything, like he can get his own.

1932
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 7: But like like really sharp catch and shoot. It's just

1933
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:13,400
Speaker 7: like when it like when you see it, you really

1934
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 7: see it, like and he's got length, Like I just

1935
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,200
Speaker 7: see it working really well. Like even though like I like,

1936
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 7: I know everybody looks at how these guys play now

1937
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 7: and everything, you know, I saw a lot of discussion

1938
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 7: of like how many Isolation plays that the Box has

1939
01:43:24,479 --> 01:43:27,000
Speaker 7: been in this year, But like I really do think you, Matt,

1940
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:30,720
Speaker 7: you I think they'll buy I think anybody who gets

1941
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:32,719
Speaker 7: drafted in the scenario with these guys have already won,

1942
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:35,920
Speaker 7: are going to buy in like they're gonna buy like

1943
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:38,800
Speaker 7: it's gonna They're gonna know it's Haliburton's team, They're gonna

1944
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 7: know it's for Carlos's team. They're gonna know this is

1945
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 7: how they operate. And I think like when they see

1946
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:45,360
Speaker 7: the shot that creates for them, they're gonna buy into it.

1947
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 7: And I can imagine Peterson with a lot of good,

1948
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:52,639
Speaker 7: clean looks, being really good. And I especially can imagine

1949
01:43:52,680 --> 01:43:55,600
Speaker 7: the scenario where like I don't think he'll start it

1950
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:57,160
Speaker 7: was certainly not out of the gate because I think,

1951
01:43:57,280 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 7: you know, it'll be Haliburton and them Harden the Smiths,

1952
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:03,599
Speaker 7: Siakamas Bosch, like, I think that's their five, and I think, whoever,

1953
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:06,240
Speaker 7: if they get one of these two wings, I think

1954
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 7: these guys are wing off the bench, playing with well,

1955
01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:11,920
Speaker 7: you know, having getting Halliburton minutes, but also getting McConnell minutes,

1956
01:44:11,960 --> 01:44:14,679
Speaker 7: but also just getting you know, having being that fast

1957
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:17,439
Speaker 7: paced ball movement scenario. And I think Peterson's a better shooter,

1958
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 7: even though he's not making a bunch of them right now.

1959
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 7: I think when he's got it together. He's really good

1960
01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 7: and like again, he can create space off the bounce

1961
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 7: if he has to, but you can also make a

1962
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 7: really good queen queen looking jump shot, and I think

1963
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:32,480
Speaker 7: he's capable of having that sort of quick decision mentality

1964
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 7: they tried to get out of mather In for years

1965
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 7: and never quite got That's sort of my view. I

1966
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 7: guess the thing is, I definitely look at Peterson and

1967
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 7: I see a lot of the things they tried to

1968
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 7: make Benedict mather.

1969
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 2: And that they never quite got there.

1970
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 7: So that's that's kind of my thought there. And he's

1971
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:48,960
Speaker 7: got length, you know, Acuff's a little smaller, like he's

1972
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:52,080
Speaker 7: a little bit more oneish twish and it's like, okay,

1973
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 7: well what do you where? Where does that fit in

1974
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 7: with Haliburton and them heart exactly? And I'm not saying

1975
01:44:57,439 --> 01:45:00,920
Speaker 7: it can't work, And I think is worth looking into

1976
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:02,520
Speaker 7: because he's just been so fantastic.

1977
01:45:03,120 --> 01:45:08,400
Speaker 2: Acuff's like, and I know he's smaller, right, Acuff kind

1978
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 2: of reminds me of the best trait of both them

1979
01:45:13,240 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 2: Hard and Haliburton combined, because he can he can burst

1980
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 2: to the basket, but he's got mid range pull up

1981
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 2: as well, right, he does.

1982
01:45:20,439 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 7: He does, I mean shoots at forty you shooting forty

1983
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:24,600
Speaker 7: four point six from three. I mean, he's you know,

1984
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:26,439
Speaker 7: like you could make him work. Like I'm not going

1985
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 7: to sit here and say that it wouldn't work with

1986
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 7: a cuff, you know, like a cuff would be a

1987
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 7: perfectly fine get. And I think if they if they

1988
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:35,800
Speaker 7: do enough research on Peterson, and I'm like, I think

1989
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:38,040
Speaker 7: they My view is, I think they take the Bomster

1990
01:45:38,120 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 7: first at the end of the day, Like I think,

1991
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 7: like though they could go through all of it if

1992
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:44,480
Speaker 7: they get number one pick, I think they take the bomsa.

1993
01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 7: But you know, like Boozer is an interesting case. You know,

1994
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 7: Peterson is an interesting case. If they look at Peterson,

1995
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 7: they're like, I don't trust it, and either they pick

1996
01:45:56,479 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 7: after Boozers off the board or whatever. Like I mean, yeah,

1997
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:02,120
Speaker 7: I think they could touch themselves in da CUF. But

1998
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:03,720
Speaker 7: I mean I think KYLEB. Wilson's really good too, Like

1999
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:05,720
Speaker 7: as much as he's out of side, out of mind

2000
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:08,880
Speaker 7: with me, forget about Wilson, right, yeah, it's just I

2001
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:11,599
Speaker 7: mean he's he's fantastic. I mean, like my view going

2002
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 7: into this was it was like Caleb Wilson's the fourth pick. Like, however,

2003
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:18,360
Speaker 7: those top three, those the bos of Peters and Boozer

2004
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 7: shakeout Caleb Wilson's fourth, and then it's everybody after that.

2005
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 1: Well, Flemings and Houston is in the mix as well, right.

2006
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, Flemings is Houston Wagler Illinois.

2007
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:27,479
Speaker 2: You know.

2008
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 7: Again, a Cuff I think has made a huge leap

2009
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 7: from I don't not that he wasn't going to be

2010
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 7: a high pick already, but I mean he's just he's

2011
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 7: had a fantastic season and he's you know, he's been

2012
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:43,040
Speaker 7: terrific this entire time. So I think he's playing himself

2013
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 7: into you know, like you have to at least if

2014
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:49,600
Speaker 7: you're a top five team, you have to bring a

2015
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:51,599
Speaker 7: Cuff in. You have to at least see what he's got,

2016
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:53,640
Speaker 7: you know, for a workout, Like you have to at

2017
01:46:53,680 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 7: least see him up close. I mean, I don't know

2018
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:58,600
Speaker 7: if you ultimately make it, especially I mean if you

2019
01:46:58,640 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 7: need a point guard, he rises up your list real high.

2020
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:04,800
Speaker 7: I mean, I think he's passed up Flemmings as far

2021
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:07,679
Speaker 7: as that's concerned. I think, you know, like I think

2022
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:10,120
Speaker 7: I think a cous if those if the top four

2023
01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 7: or who I still think they're going to be. I

2024
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:12,559
Speaker 7: think a cuff goes stuff.

2025
01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:15,760
Speaker 2: Dustin Depirek is my guest. He's on the Java House

2026
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:19,040
Speaker 2: Colbrew Coffee guest line. He is with the Indianapolis Star, Dustin.

2027
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 2: When you look at this season for Indiana, where we

2028
01:47:21,960 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 2: have had the opportunity for Rick Carlisle to use so

2029
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:29,679
Speaker 2: many different combinations, and we've talked about players that maybe

2030
01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 2: have taken advantage of opportunity to show where they can

2031
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 2: fit in. Is there any area of weakness or need

2032
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 2: for this franchise that has shown itself this year throughout

2033
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:46,040
Speaker 2: this inventory that perhaps you did not anticipate going in.

2034
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 7: I think, I mean, I guess the weird part is,

2035
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:54,719
Speaker 7: like I feel like it's been such a skewede season

2036
01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:57,000
Speaker 7: that has been hard to read. But like I do,

2037
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 7: you are worried about how this team go arts, I mean,

2038
01:48:01,280 --> 01:48:03,200
Speaker 7: like and like I know, part of it is just

2039
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:06,599
Speaker 7: not having a sense of urgency, Like they're not they're

2040
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 7: not like standing on this hill that they have to

2041
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,280
Speaker 7: defend and oh my god, you know if someone gets

2042
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 7: passed for a layup, what are you ever going to do? Like,

2043
01:48:13,439 --> 01:48:16,680
Speaker 7: I think there's that that like sense of like you

2044
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:19,120
Speaker 7: have to win one of these games, like costs you

2045
01:48:19,200 --> 01:48:21,320
Speaker 7: on the defensive end. The fact that you don't have that.

2046
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:24,479
Speaker 7: I mean, they're just they're just giving up layups like

2047
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 7: just left and right. Uh, you know, especially just since

2048
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 7: the all start break. It's just a constant. But I mean,

2049
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 7: I don't know, like I think, I don't know if

2050
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 7: there's anything that wasn't there. And like I think you

2051
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:39,719
Speaker 7: have to. I think you have to replace the scoring

2052
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 7: from mathdon you know, Like I do think you have

2053
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 7: to replace that on the second unit. But I mean,

2054
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 7: I still I'm not convinced. I guess that what they're

2055
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 7: going to have if they get if they get one

2056
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 7: of these picks and you combine it with all right,

2057
01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 7: you know like calibert and em Hardney Smiths, Siakam Zubox,

2058
01:48:57,479 --> 01:48:59,680
Speaker 7: Like I think that's a team that can play. You know,

2059
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 7: it's can you know with McConnell, you know, Peterson's or

2060
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:06,479
Speaker 7: Bonsa Walker, Top and huff is okay, you know, it's

2061
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 7: pretty good at least, you know, or if you get

2062
01:49:08,479 --> 01:49:10,519
Speaker 7: Boozer and you maybe move Top into five and you

2063
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:12,840
Speaker 7: just play those two together and you know, put huff

2064
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 7: on as kind of a death guy, you know, figure

2065
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:17,680
Speaker 7: something else, maybe a shepherd or something like that to

2066
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:20,440
Speaker 7: play the two. Like, I think you've got enough pieces,

2067
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:22,800
Speaker 7: but it's just like sort of collectively, I think you

2068
01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:25,519
Speaker 7: need to re establish that you can guard somebody, you know,

2069
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 7: you know, as a collective. You know. So it's like

2070
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:30,960
Speaker 7: if if I don't know whether there's gonna be another

2071
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:34,680
Speaker 7: place to add perimeter defense or where that will be

2072
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 7: an opportunity to even play that. But it is just

2073
01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:41,599
Speaker 7: sort of a not that they had it all together in.

2074
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 4: The first place.

2075
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 7: I mean, they weren't necessarily a great defensive team last year,

2076
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:47,360
Speaker 7: you know, they were better than they probably had reached

2077
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:50,000
Speaker 7: better than average status after being horrendous the year before.

2078
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 7: But it's just it does stand out like, all right,

2079
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 7: like you guys really able to do this up again?

2080
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:57,680
Speaker 7: You know, like are you guys gonna be able to

2081
01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:00,200
Speaker 7: get back to playing real defense when it matters? Like

2082
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 7: are you sure?

2083
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:02,240
Speaker 2: You know?

2084
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 7: That's kind of my interesting question with this group is okay,

2085
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 7: like are you going to be able to find that

2086
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:08,680
Speaker 7: again after as you kind of let up with it

2087
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:09,280
Speaker 7: this year?

2088
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:12,360
Speaker 1: Have we gotten any update or have you dustin?

2089
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:16,439
Speaker 2: You know? Obviously I know that Tyre's Halliburton being out

2090
01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:19,160
Speaker 2: for the year. That goes without saying we knew that

2091
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:21,679
Speaker 2: going into it, even though we have seen other players,

2092
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:26,000
Speaker 2: notable Jason Tatum come back within same season, but he

2093
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:29,439
Speaker 2: also had shingles. Have we had any update at all

2094
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 2: on where things are with Halliburton just in terms of

2095
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 2: how he is or how his recovery is going. Yeah.

2096
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:38,040
Speaker 7: The last time, so I think it was, is the

2097
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 7: Milwaukee trip. Yeah, I think it was. It was the

2098
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 7: Milwaukee trip, the Milwaukee Knicks trip. You know, Rick said

2099
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 7: he was back with the team. We haven't seen him since. Yeah,

2100
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 7: I don't think we've seen him on the bench. I

2101
01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:53,919
Speaker 7: don't say, like he might have been there in Milwaukee

2102
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,920
Speaker 7: and New York and so I don't know. I don't

2103
01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 7: know how the shingles thing is going exactly, so you know,

2104
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:02,680
Speaker 7: like that's the thing that can linger a little bit.

2105
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:05,000
Speaker 7: They said it was gonna be two three weeks. So

2106
01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:06,559
Speaker 7: like the last I heard was, like, I think that

2107
01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 7: was last Sunday. I think it was selection Sunday. Was

2108
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 7: the was the Bucks game? And uh yeah, Tony asked

2109
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:14,080
Speaker 7: how he was doing it. Rick said, he's doing better.

2110
01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 7: You know, he's with the team, but like he wasn't there,

2111
01:51:16,520 --> 01:51:19,400
Speaker 7: and there was this like I got one of these

2112
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:23,040
Speaker 7: like promotional emails they were doing, like it was like

2113
01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 7: through Reese's and he was supposed to be part of

2114
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:28,799
Speaker 7: this like panel with Richard Jefferson, Andrea Carter and Brianna

2115
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:30,640
Speaker 7: Stewart and they were all going to share the brackets.

2116
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:32,519
Speaker 7: So the other three showed up for it and they

2117
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:34,439
Speaker 7: just never said like Tyreese wasn't there and they never

2118
01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:37,559
Speaker 7: said why, you know, so I'm presuming it had to

2119
01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:39,760
Speaker 7: be health related because he's Tyree's and he'd love to

2120
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:41,880
Speaker 7: do stuff like that, Like that's like right up his alley,

2121
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:45,880
Speaker 7: so you know, like go on there and like like

2122
01:51:46,840 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 7: talk a bunch of mess with Richard Jefferson Like that's

2123
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:50,000
Speaker 7: that's totally And.

2124
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:52,960
Speaker 2: This was this was a this was Reese's candy, like

2125
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 2: the peanut butter cup folks.

2126
01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:55,839
Speaker 7: Yeah, like Reese's like this they were doing.

2127
01:51:56,120 --> 01:51:58,760
Speaker 1: Because his name is Tyrese could have.

2128
01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 7: Been but I think I I mean, like he just

2129
01:52:01,240 --> 01:52:04,480
Speaker 7: would have been good with that group like Halliburton Jefferson

2130
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 7: and Andrea Carter or Brianna Stewart, like Tyres fits that perfectly, well,

2131
01:52:08,520 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 7: you know, Andy's out, So it's like that would just

2132
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:13,200
Speaker 7: be it'd be an easy thing to do that doesn't

2133
01:52:13,200 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 7: cost him any like time in terms of stuff that

2134
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 7: he's actually doing. And you know, him just sort of

2135
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 7: taking jabs at Jefferson would have been like right up

2136
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 7: their alley. Like so you know, like he he fits

2137
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:25,479
Speaker 7: on a bunch of levels there. You know, it's an

2138
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:28,960
Speaker 7: easy promo to make, and you know, like he he

2139
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:30,679
Speaker 7: keeps up with this stuff like I mean, you see

2140
01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:32,559
Speaker 7: how he's tweeting, so like I mean, like you know,

2141
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:34,160
Speaker 7: this is the thing that he would want to do,

2142
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:38,000
Speaker 7: so he must not have been able to do it, basically,

2143
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 7: like this is not this is not a thing he

2144
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:42,040
Speaker 7: would have blown off, you know, just for the heck

2145
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:43,839
Speaker 7: of it, Like he must not have been feeling good.

2146
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 2: Did you call them Recee's pieces or Reese's pieces, Recent's pieces, Eddie?

2147
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 3: What about you pieces?

2148
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Speaker 2: Pieces? Right? Yeah?

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01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 1: Isn't that what it was like when Et was eating him?

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01:52:56,080 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 2: What they reces pieces?

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01:52:57,800 --> 01:52:58,240
Speaker 3: Totably?

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01:52:59,880 --> 01:53:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I.

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01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 2: I realized I was dust, and I was like fifty

2154
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:08,400
Speaker 2: two years old before I realized that it was Reese's

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01:53:08,439 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 2: and not Reces.

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01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:11,120
Speaker 1: To me, it was always Recee's.

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01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:13,040
Speaker 2: Peanut butter cups for what it's worth, but they are delicious,

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01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:16,320
Speaker 2: all right, Pacers Magic tonight, and then it is the

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01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:20,920
Speaker 2: Lakers the Lake Show at Gambridge coming up on Wednesday.

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01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:24,720
Speaker 2: Any other news or nuggets that you wanted to chime in,

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01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:25,639
Speaker 2: But first, Eddie.

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01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:28,800
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Dustin answer Jake question first, to have a

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01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:29,640
Speaker 3: different question for you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that another thing particularly new iiman it

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01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:33,519
Speaker 7: is the zobac injury.

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Speaker 4: I think it sucks.

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01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 7: I think I think, I really do think Rick wanted

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01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:40,559
Speaker 7: to see Pascal Si document if each Zuba play together.

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01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:43,519
Speaker 7: And you know, it's like I think everybody immediately after

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01:53:43,520 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 7: I tweed that, everyone's like, ah, that's made up and

2171
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 7: like and somebody even tweeted at me. They're like, oh no,

2172
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 7: they're they're shutting down Zoobox because he's threatening the you know,

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01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:54,799
Speaker 7: he's threatening the tank and I'm like, you're not threatening

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01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:56,479
Speaker 7: the tank. They're rowing five with him on the floor.

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01:53:56,520 --> 01:54:00,000
Speaker 7: They haven't been close to winning, so it's like, you

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01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:02,679
Speaker 7: there's nothing he's doing that's you know, like he's playing well,

2177
01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:05,320
Speaker 7: but like they're not coming close to you know, like

2178
01:54:05,400 --> 01:54:07,599
Speaker 7: getting to win on the board by accident. Here, you know,

2179
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:10,600
Speaker 7: like they're they're sitting under the level, just flying. So

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01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 7: I do think that's the thing that they are legit

2181
01:54:13,439 --> 01:54:15,280
Speaker 7: bothered by. I do think they wanted those minutes of

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01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:16,120
Speaker 7: those two guys together.

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01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:18,679
Speaker 3: But anyways, go ahead, who is who has more pressure

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01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:21,799
Speaker 3: next season to get the Pacers back on track? Or Rick.

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01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 4: Tyrese?

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01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:27,800
Speaker 7: I mean, I guess Rick. I don't know. I mean,

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01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 7: I like, I'm gonna say Rick on the basis of

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01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:37,840
Speaker 7: if they just lag because they didn't you know that

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01:54:38,640 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 7: this group didn't go I don't want to say didn't

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01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 7: go all out. I mean, like the base idea, like

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01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:45,320
Speaker 7: if you say, like, okay, like what did these guys do?

2192
01:54:45,480 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 7: Like why did this? You know, like you know, whether

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01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:51,800
Speaker 7: you want to call it tanking or whatever, like, ultimately,

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01:54:51,840 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 7: what they really did was not necessarily push guys who

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01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 7: had injuries they could have played through. I mean, these

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01:54:56,320 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 7: are real injuries, but it's like, you know, this is

2197
01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:00,360
Speaker 7: stuff that stuff that would have cost them the game

2198
01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 7: last year when they were contending cost them a week.

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01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:05,280
Speaker 7: You know, they gave everybody time to like sort of

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01:55:05,680 --> 01:55:09,640
Speaker 7: get right and so just sort of accepting at a

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Speaker 7: certain point that this season was over, you know, like,

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01:55:12,400 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 7: is that going to have consequences next year? Are you

2203
01:55:15,000 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 7: going to have a team that doesn't have the same

2204
01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 7: kind of fire a year from now? And if it doesn't,

2205
01:55:19,240 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 7: you can look and say, Okay, well that's you know,

2206
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:24,640
Speaker 7: like there's some level of carryover from you know, what

2207
01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 7: was ultimately a franchise decision, and so then those guys

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01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 7: can can carry for that. I mean, Haliburn's gonna have

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Speaker 7: a lot of pressure. I mean, I think I would

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01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 7: say this, like if you're if you're a Pacers fan,

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01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:38,440
Speaker 7: you should give him grace, you know, like I mean,

2212
01:55:38,600 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 7: because this is a major injury. You know, like and

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01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 7: I can see a scenario where ten games in, you know,

2214
01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:46,760
Speaker 7: he's not the guy that you were expecting him to be. Well,

2215
01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 7: it's going to take a minute, you know, Like and

2216
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:50,440
Speaker 7: even if you're looking at it and like holding holding

2217
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:52,200
Speaker 7: him too Tatum standards, like some guys are going to

2218
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 7: do a little better than others, that doesn't mean he's

2219
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:56,960
Speaker 7: not going to get there, you know. Like I would say, like,

2220
01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 7: if you're a Pacers fan, brace yourself. Don't get ready

2221
01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 7: to you know, say he's cooked, Like if he's not,

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01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:05,040
Speaker 7: you know, if he's averaging you know, I don't know,

2223
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 7: like twelve and seven after ten games and shooting like,

2224
01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:12,240
Speaker 7: you know, thirty one percent from three. Don't freak out,

2225
01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:15,880
Speaker 7: you know, like just and don't kill him over it.

2226
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 7: I guess if you're a Facers fan, you know. So,

2227
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 7: I'm like, he's going to be facing a lot of pressure.

2228
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:21,840
Speaker 7: He's going to be putting on himself. He's gonna want

2229
01:56:21,840 --> 01:56:24,000
Speaker 7: to get back. He's gonna look at whatever Tatum does

2230
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 7: and whatever j want taint Murray doesn't want to match that.

2231
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 7: And if he's not there, probably getting his head in

2232
01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:32,440
Speaker 7: head about it a little bit. And you know, like

2233
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:34,480
Speaker 7: he's got to give himself grace and probably the fan's

2234
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 7: got to give himrace too. It's probably going to take

2235
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 7: him minute before he's able to like that he can

2236
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:40,920
Speaker 7: really command the same way he was in the playoffs.

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01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 2: Pacers Magic Tonight coverage Indianapolis Star Dustin del Pirak will

2238
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:47,760
Speaker 2: have all of it, and if it is a perfect

2239
01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 2: game going into the eighth, he will stand an applaud

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Speaker 2: I promise you, Uh, Dustin appreciate the time.

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01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:54,920
Speaker 7: As always, absolutely thanks for having me.

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01:56:55,160 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 2: Dustin de Pierre joining us on the program, by the way,

2243
01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:03,080
Speaker 2: and coming up just a minute. A guy that was

2244
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:06,960
Speaker 2: in Oklahoma City over the week end, Brandon Godden, going

2245
01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:09,760
Speaker 2: to join us, who had the call for several games

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01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,040
Speaker 2: in the NCAA tournament, including a team that I think

2247
01:57:12,120 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 2: kind of off radar might be playing the best of anybody,

2248
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 2: But I did want to offer this update. If you've

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01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:21,800
Speaker 2: ever driven on West sixteenth Street, twelve to fifty West

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Speaker 2: sixteenth is the address I believe you've seen mister Bendo.

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01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:30,200
Speaker 2: Mister Bendo is the large twenty foot sculpture I'll say,

2252
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 2: for lack of a better phrase, that stands over I

2253
01:57:33,600 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 2: believe it's Ralph's muffler shop and he is an icon

2254
01:57:39,840 --> 01:57:43,360
Speaker 2: looking over near the old Victory Field slash Bush Stadium

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Speaker 2: slash Perry Field.

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Speaker 1: And last night, this is how neurotic I am.

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01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:52,080
Speaker 2: Last night, I'm scrolling the Book of Faces on social

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01:57:52,120 --> 01:57:56,560
Speaker 2: media and somebody posts that there was a car accident

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01:57:56,600 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 2: where someone hit mister Bendo.

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Speaker 1: And are you familiar, Eddie with mister Bendo.

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01:58:02,960 --> 01:58:03,360
Speaker 3: Nope.

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01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:07,560
Speaker 2: If you're driving on sixteenth Street and you get just

2263
01:58:07,640 --> 01:58:11,360
Speaker 2: passed like the IU Health Complex, and you're going towards

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01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:13,960
Speaker 2: the west side, on the right hand side, there is

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01:58:13,960 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 2: the large sculpture of a Paul Bunyan looking fella. He's

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01:58:17,120 --> 01:58:20,040
Speaker 2: a mechanic and he's standing with his arm outright. He

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01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:22,360
Speaker 2: looks like something you'd see in the old Root sixty six,

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01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:27,040
Speaker 2: like mid fifties, outside of a gas station. You if

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01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:29,400
Speaker 2: you've seen him, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

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01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:33,720
Speaker 2: But somebody lost control of their car on sixteenth Street

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01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:39,040
Speaker 2: drove hit mister Bendo. There was substantial damage to mister Bendo.

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01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:42,720
Speaker 2: And last night someone posted a picture of them taking

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01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 2: down mister Bendo, and I'm like, no, you can't do that.

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01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 2: He's been there for He's a neighborhood icon. So i

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01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:52,120
Speaker 2: actually got in my car last night at like twelve

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01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 2: thirty and drove over because I'm like, if mister Bendo's

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01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:56,560
Speaker 2: coming down, I need a picture of it, or if

2278
01:58:56,600 --> 01:58:58,640
Speaker 2: there's you know, I want to see. If he's not there,

2279
01:58:58,800 --> 01:59:01,480
Speaker 2: I want to say when the world happy to say,

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01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:03,520
Speaker 2: the big fella is back up. He's gonna need a

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01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:06,680
Speaker 2: little foot surgery, but he is back up. So if

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01:59:06,680 --> 01:59:11,840
Speaker 2: you saw the posts, rest assured. Rest assured, and that

2283
01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:14,440
Speaker 2: maybe that's one of those if you know you know things.

2284
01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:18,480
Speaker 2: But if you know of mister Bendo he's gonna need

2285
01:59:18,520 --> 01:59:22,160
Speaker 2: a new shoe and a new foot. But the surgery,

2286
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:25,320
Speaker 2: I think is underway and he's gonna be back up

2287
01:59:25,320 --> 01:59:28,880
Speaker 2: and running. Brandon Godden was on the call for several

2288
01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:32,360
Speaker 2: games in the NCAA Tournament, including Nebraska's first launch into

2289
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:36,720
Speaker 2: the Sweet sixteen Vanderbilt and nearly hitting a shot that

2290
01:59:36,760 --> 01:59:38,840
Speaker 2: would have been the story of the tournament. Texas A

2291
01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:41,480
Speaker 2: and m looked unbelievable, and then they got run out

2292
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 2: of the gym. But where do things stand with March madness?

2293
01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:48,360
Speaker 2: Brandon Gordon returned guest to the program coming up next.

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01:59:50,680 --> 01:59:51,640
Speaker 1: That's how it sounded.

2295
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:55,680
Speaker 2: Brandon Goddon on the call as Nebraska wins not one,

2296
01:59:55,760 --> 01:59:59,240
Speaker 2: but two now NCAA Tournament games for the first time

2297
01:59:59,240 --> 02:00:00,800
Speaker 2: in history, two wins.

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02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:03,280
Speaker 1: They are on to the Sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 2: And Brandon, you obviously have some history with Butler basketball.

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02:00:06,960 --> 02:00:10,080
Speaker 2: You had to be like basically anybody watching that when

2301
02:00:10,080 --> 02:00:13,320
Speaker 2: that Vanderbilt shot went up, that was Gordon Hayward like

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02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:14,360
Speaker 2: all over again.

2303
02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:16,720
Speaker 3: Right, boy, it felt like it.

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02:00:17,080 --> 02:00:20,960
Speaker 6: And I after about two minutes following that shot not

2305
02:00:21,160 --> 02:00:24,040
Speaker 6: going in and Chris Weber and I were recapping everything,

2306
02:00:24,160 --> 02:00:25,080
Speaker 6: I said that to him.

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02:00:25,120 --> 02:00:25,880
Speaker 7: I said, boy, I.

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02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:28,480
Speaker 6: Couldn't help but think of Gordon Hayward with that shot

2309
02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:32,200
Speaker 6: in the air. And the only different I mean, there's

2310
02:00:32,240 --> 02:00:35,880
Speaker 6: a few differences obviously, right National Championship game versus second round,

2311
02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 6: but that was even closer to going in than Gordon's

2312
02:00:39,440 --> 02:00:42,520
Speaker 6: was that all was halfway down and it's just one

2313
02:00:42,560 --> 02:00:44,440
Speaker 6: of those shots that the whole way as soon as

2314
02:00:44,440 --> 02:00:47,600
Speaker 6: he released it, you go maybe, maybe, oh my gosh,

2315
02:00:47,600 --> 02:00:49,520
Speaker 6: oh my gosh, that's going to go in that That's

2316
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:52,040
Speaker 6: what was going on in my head. And then when

2317
02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:55,680
Speaker 6: it rimmed out, and it's that juxtaposition of March. You

2318
02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:59,680
Speaker 6: look at Vanderbilt's sideline and everybody just collapses to the floor,

2319
02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:03,280
Speaker 6: and then everybody on Nebraska sideline and their fan base

2320
02:01:03,320 --> 02:01:04,800
Speaker 6: that filled that arena just.

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02:01:04,760 --> 02:01:07,080
Speaker 3: Jumps up in the air and it shows.

2322
02:01:06,840 --> 02:01:09,720
Speaker 6: You both the cruelty and the greatness of what this

2323
02:01:09,800 --> 02:01:10,920
Speaker 6: tournament is all about.

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Speaker 2: I thought you made an excellent point at the end

2325
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Speaker 2: of that game, and the fact that Fred Hoiberg let

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02:01:18,640 --> 02:01:21,600
Speaker 2: them play that out and did not call a time out.

2327
02:01:21,640 --> 02:01:22,960
Speaker 2: That's always been one of those things, you know, do

2328
02:01:23,000 --> 02:01:24,640
Speaker 2: you call it time do you strategy something, or do

2329
02:01:24,680 --> 02:01:28,040
Speaker 2: you just let it go? Was that a sign simply

2330
02:01:28,120 --> 02:01:30,160
Speaker 2: of a coach saying, look, I've got you know, my

2331
02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:33,640
Speaker 2: job is done here at this point. I have trained

2332
02:01:33,680 --> 02:01:35,839
Speaker 2: these guys on what to do and how to react,

2333
02:01:36,160 --> 02:01:38,800
Speaker 2: and I've got to trust they know how to do it.

2334
02:01:38,920 --> 02:01:41,680
Speaker 2: Or do you think it's also the frenzy and the

2335
02:01:41,680 --> 02:01:43,400
Speaker 2: frantic nature of the moment.

2336
02:01:43,960 --> 02:01:45,280
Speaker 1: Do you just kind of let it go?

2337
02:01:46,200 --> 02:01:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:47,040
Speaker 3: I think so.

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Speaker 6: I've talked to a lot of coaches about this. They

2340
02:01:49,120 --> 02:01:52,160
Speaker 6: a lot of them go into games with two philosophies

2341
02:01:52,280 --> 02:01:55,000
Speaker 6: on two different late game scenarios. One that we often

2342
02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:57,760
Speaker 6: talk about is do you foul up three with under

2343
02:01:57,800 --> 02:01:58,480
Speaker 6: ten seconds?

2344
02:01:58,560 --> 02:01:58,800
Speaker 2: Right?

2345
02:01:59,040 --> 02:02:01,120
Speaker 6: Coaches are very on that that they go in with

2346
02:02:01,200 --> 02:02:04,360
Speaker 6: a specific game plan and then generally coaches will tell

2347
02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:07,360
Speaker 6: you that they will it's game specific and flow of

2348
02:02:07,480 --> 02:02:09,920
Speaker 6: game specific, but they have a high level idea of

2349
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:12,240
Speaker 6: what they want to do in a situation like this

2350
02:02:12,360 --> 02:02:15,160
Speaker 6: where their team gets the ball, they have a timeout,

2351
02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:17,000
Speaker 6: but do you want to use it or do you

2352
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:20,200
Speaker 6: want to roll the dice? And Fred Hoiberg, I've been

2353
02:02:20,200 --> 02:02:22,840
Speaker 6: in that situation with him before in regular season games,

2354
02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:26,600
Speaker 6: and his philosophy has been let our guys just play

2355
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:28,760
Speaker 6: it out, trust the system, trust that they're going to

2356
02:02:28,760 --> 02:02:31,360
Speaker 6: make a play, rather than calling a timeout and letting

2357
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:34,200
Speaker 6: the defense also get set. Hey, look, it's one of

2358
02:02:34,240 --> 02:02:36,320
Speaker 6: those things where if it works, you look like a genius,

2359
02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:39,160
Speaker 6: and if it doesn't, everybody questions, well, why wouldn't you

2360
02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:41,520
Speaker 6: stop and tell your guys what you want them to do?

2361
02:02:42,320 --> 02:02:45,360
Speaker 6: And I don't think I didn't talk to him postgame,

2362
02:02:45,400 --> 02:02:48,360
Speaker 6: but I don't think that he set anything up. I

2363
02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:50,959
Speaker 6: think he just knew who had the ball. He trusted

2364
02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:53,440
Speaker 6: someone to come over and set a screen and make

2365
02:02:53,480 --> 02:02:56,640
Speaker 6: a play with Pryce Sandford and Braden Frigger, and those

2366
02:02:56,640 --> 02:02:59,720
Speaker 6: are just two guys for the moment, catching the defense

2367
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:02,800
Speaker 6: on heels and making a big play at the biggest moment.

2368
02:03:03,320 --> 02:03:06,520
Speaker 2: Brandon I thought, Brandon Gotton is my guest who was

2369
02:03:06,560 --> 02:03:13,040
Speaker 2: in Oklahoma City doing the NCAA tournament. I watched with

2370
02:03:13,400 --> 02:03:15,680
Speaker 2: interest because I like Randy Bennett a lot. But I watched

2371
02:03:15,680 --> 02:03:17,960
Speaker 2: Saint Mary's okay in the opener against A and M,

2372
02:03:18,240 --> 02:03:20,960
Speaker 2: and that was one of those games you could tell,

2373
02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:22,800
Speaker 2: like three minutes into it, it's like, man, they've got

2374
02:03:22,840 --> 02:03:24,600
Speaker 2: a tiger by the tail here, and A and M

2375
02:03:24,720 --> 02:03:29,120
Speaker 2: was just so athletic and so big and athletic in

2376
02:03:29,160 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 2: big spots that it just keeps Saint Mary's was never

2377
02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:36,160
Speaker 2: able to grapple it. And then I watched round two

2378
02:03:36,160 --> 02:03:39,959
Speaker 2: and I see what Houston did, and I I thought Houston.

2379
02:03:40,160 --> 02:03:42,720
Speaker 2: Houston to me, might have been the most impressive team

2380
02:03:42,720 --> 02:03:45,840
Speaker 2: in the opening weekend of the tournament based on kind

2381
02:03:45,880 --> 02:03:47,360
Speaker 2: of the comparison of what I saw A and M

2382
02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:49,640
Speaker 2: from week one. Do you agree with that assessment?

2383
02:03:50,520 --> 02:03:54,280
Speaker 6: One thousand percent? I've had so I had this Houston

2384
02:03:54,320 --> 02:03:56,640
Speaker 6: team in November, I had them in December. I had

2385
02:03:56,720 --> 02:03:58,720
Speaker 6: him in January, and that I did not have them

2386
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:01,360
Speaker 6: again until the tournament. And look, I'm not going to

2387
02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:04,160
Speaker 6: be over the top hyperbolic and say they're a completely

2388
02:04:04,240 --> 02:04:07,000
Speaker 6: different team, but the jump from November. They were good

2389
02:04:07,000 --> 02:04:09,600
Speaker 6: in November, but the jump to November to now, it

2390
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:12,960
Speaker 6: just has Kelvin Sampson's handprints all over it, like those

2391
02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:17,280
Speaker 6: freshmen Flemings and Sanak joining some of those older veterans.

2392
02:04:17,600 --> 02:04:20,480
Speaker 6: It took him a little while to gel, but they're

2393
02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:22,760
Speaker 6: clicking on all cylinders and they just look like a

2394
02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:25,760
Speaker 6: team that is on a mission. And I don't know

2395
02:04:25,840 --> 02:04:29,040
Speaker 6: how much longer Kelvin's going to do this. He's seventy now,

2396
02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:32,360
Speaker 6: but I think he's realizing that he's going to lose

2397
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:35,280
Speaker 6: his two freshmen of the NBA. He's losing Emmanuel Sharp,

2398
02:04:35,320 --> 02:04:39,600
Speaker 6: a fifth year senior Usana senior. He can recruit as

2399
02:04:39,640 --> 02:04:42,600
Speaker 6: well as anybody, so I'm sure he could reload, but

2400
02:04:42,680 --> 02:04:45,440
Speaker 6: I'm sure he's thinking to himself, Okay, this might be

2401
02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:48,320
Speaker 6: my last shot. And I think his players know that.

2402
02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:51,480
Speaker 6: And these guys, to a man, when you ask them

2403
02:04:51,480 --> 02:04:54,280
Speaker 6: about Kelvin Sampson, they will take a bullet for that guy.

2404
02:04:54,560 --> 02:04:56,760
Speaker 6: They love their head coach. And so I just I

2405
02:04:56,800 --> 02:04:58,680
Speaker 6: think it's a team that is on a mission, that

2406
02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:01,720
Speaker 6: knows that they should have won it last year, fell

2407
02:05:01,760 --> 02:05:04,040
Speaker 6: a little bit short, and now they get to go

2408
02:05:04,160 --> 02:05:07,240
Speaker 6: home to Houston for the sweet sixteen. And like you said,

2409
02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:09,560
Speaker 6: I think they're playing as well as anybody in the tournament.

2410
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:12,920
Speaker 2: And you know one of my favorite fun facts, Brandon,

2411
02:05:14,040 --> 02:05:16,200
Speaker 2: and I've only mentioned it three hundred and forty six

2412
02:05:16,280 --> 02:05:18,160
Speaker 2: times on this radio show, but I'll mention it three

2413
02:05:18,280 --> 02:05:21,240
Speaker 2: forty seven here. The University of Houston has been to

2414
02:05:21,400 --> 02:05:24,200
Speaker 2: more final fours than any school to have never won

2415
02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:27,520
Speaker 2: a national championship. Now, if they are able to take

2416
02:05:27,560 --> 02:05:30,919
Speaker 2: themselves out of that never won a national championship column

2417
02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:34,800
Speaker 2: this year, it is your opinion that which schools right

2418
02:05:34,840 --> 02:05:36,640
Speaker 2: now are playing better than they.

2419
02:05:38,360 --> 02:05:41,920
Speaker 6: Do? You mean as far as currently this season correct.

2420
02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:44,760
Speaker 2: In this in this field, how many would you put above?

2421
02:05:45,120 --> 02:05:47,040
Speaker 2: Because I think you kind of reseed it right in

2422
02:05:47,120 --> 02:05:51,200
Speaker 2: your mind. So of the Sweet sixteen right now, I mean,

2423
02:05:51,240 --> 02:05:53,000
Speaker 2: if you look at it, how many would you say

2424
02:05:53,040 --> 02:05:55,760
Speaker 2: emphatically would that you would say would be quote unquote

2425
02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:57,360
Speaker 2: favored over Houston.

2426
02:05:59,080 --> 02:06:06,640
Speaker 6: Maybe Michigan with how they've played, maybe Arizona. But I

2427
02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:09,680
Speaker 6: call that a toss up because of what they showed

2428
02:06:09,800 --> 02:06:12,400
Speaker 6: in those two games. And look, Idaho, I know they

2429
02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:14,200
Speaker 6: were just going to overpower them, but it was the

2430
02:06:14,680 --> 02:06:16,960
Speaker 6: business like approach and the precision to which they just

2431
02:06:17,000 --> 02:06:19,160
Speaker 6: they could have won that game by seventy and then

2432
02:06:19,200 --> 02:06:20,800
Speaker 6: Texas A and m is a good team. They're not

2433
02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:24,080
Speaker 6: going to get the credit for that because Houston just

2434
02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:26,800
Speaker 6: made them look bad. But yeah, the way that they

2435
02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:30,640
Speaker 6: dismantled them. Same thing. So I when I watched Michigan,

2436
02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:34,160
Speaker 6: I still think even with the injury that they had

2437
02:06:34,160 --> 02:06:37,280
Speaker 6: there at the end of the season, I thought top

2438
02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:40,640
Speaker 6: to bottom, Michigan has the highest ceiling, and I still

2439
02:06:40,680 --> 02:06:43,600
Speaker 6: think that Duke and Arizona are right there with them.

2440
02:06:43,680 --> 02:06:46,200
Speaker 6: But to me, Michigan has the highest ceiling. But the

2441
02:06:46,400 --> 02:06:50,839
Speaker 6: experience that Houston has in the tournament, combined with Kelvin Sampson,

2442
02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:53,800
Speaker 6: combined with how well they're playing right now, and specific

2443
02:06:53,880 --> 02:06:55,600
Speaker 6: to these next two rounds that they're going to be

2444
02:06:55,640 --> 02:06:58,400
Speaker 6: at home, I truly put Houston right up there at

2445
02:06:58,400 --> 02:07:01,160
Speaker 6: the top with his good of a chance to anybody

2446
02:07:01,200 --> 02:07:02,440
Speaker 6: to cut down the nets and envy.

2447
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:03,080
Speaker 1: Brandon.

2448
02:07:03,120 --> 02:07:06,200
Speaker 2: You've obviously covered the NCAA tournament a lot and talked

2449
02:07:06,200 --> 02:07:08,800
Speaker 2: to a lot of coaches, Okay, and I'm asking this

2450
02:07:08,920 --> 02:07:11,960
Speaker 2: for the sake of fans of Purdue. So Purdue had

2451
02:07:12,040 --> 02:07:14,400
Speaker 2: kind of an ebb and flow year. They clearly are

2452
02:07:14,440 --> 02:07:17,760
Speaker 2: playing very good basketball right now. Braden Smith maybe didn't

2453
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:20,720
Speaker 2: play his two best games, but you get elevation elsewhere

2454
02:07:20,760 --> 02:07:24,839
Speaker 2: that carries them to this point. But is there a concern,

2455
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:28,280
Speaker 2: not just for Purdue, for any team of the layoff

2456
02:07:28,560 --> 02:07:31,480
Speaker 2: between the weekend of the back to back games and

2457
02:07:31,520 --> 02:07:35,120
Speaker 2: then taking the four days off. Can we really look

2458
02:07:35,240 --> 02:07:37,840
Speaker 2: at the way teams are playing as hey, they have

2459
02:07:37,960 --> 02:07:40,560
Speaker 2: momentum right now, or is it literally a wipe of

2460
02:07:40,600 --> 02:07:44,400
Speaker 2: the etcha sketch when you get into the regional semi finals. Yeah.

2461
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:46,760
Speaker 6: So Chris Weber and I talked about that a lot

2462
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:50,320
Speaker 6: off the air the day before the games, we were

2463
02:07:50,360 --> 02:07:52,960
Speaker 6: over there at the practices, and I asked him because

2464
02:07:53,000 --> 02:07:56,000
Speaker 6: obviously he went through this at the highest level and

2465
02:07:56,160 --> 02:07:57,760
Speaker 6: things were a little bit different when he played, but

2466
02:07:57,800 --> 02:08:00,240
Speaker 6: by and large, he's got a perspective that few have.

2467
02:08:00,720 --> 02:08:03,040
Speaker 6: And I said, do you think it matters how much

2468
02:08:03,120 --> 02:08:05,080
Speaker 6: rest do you get before the start of the tournament.

2469
02:08:05,120 --> 02:08:08,040
Speaker 6: Some of these smaller teams like Idaho had ten days off,

2470
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:10,360
Speaker 6: and he said he looked at me, he said, dude,

2471
02:08:10,520 --> 02:08:13,040
Speaker 6: I just don't think it matters. And I went back

2472
02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:14,800
Speaker 6: and looked, like over the last couple of years, because

2473
02:08:14,840 --> 02:08:16,960
Speaker 6: I was curious that there was a data point, and

2474
02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:21,360
Speaker 6: it is varied the success or failure that teams have.

2475
02:08:21,440 --> 02:08:24,600
Speaker 6: Basically there's no consistency. Some teams on no rest all

2476
02:08:24,640 --> 02:08:27,160
Speaker 6: of a sudden are really good. Some teams with ten

2477
02:08:27,240 --> 02:08:31,360
Speaker 6: days rest suck and vice versa. So I think it

2478
02:08:31,480 --> 02:08:34,240
Speaker 6: just kind of you said at the sketch, I think that's.

2479
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:34,480
Speaker 3: What it is.

2480
02:08:34,840 --> 02:08:37,120
Speaker 6: I think it is a different level of adrenaline and

2481
02:08:37,240 --> 02:08:40,120
Speaker 6: intensity and a different atmosphere that you're working with in

2482
02:08:40,160 --> 02:08:42,680
Speaker 6: the NCAA tournament, and I think a lot of that

2483
02:08:42,720 --> 02:08:47,080
Speaker 6: stuff gets overblown now to turn around from Sunday travel home.

2484
02:08:47,160 --> 02:08:48,600
Speaker 3: If you're a team, like let's.

2485
02:08:48,360 --> 02:08:51,560
Speaker 6: Say you're Michigan, you're in the Big Ten Championship, you

2486
02:08:51,640 --> 02:08:54,480
Speaker 6: go home, and then you turn around and play Thursday

2487
02:08:54,520 --> 02:08:55,600
Speaker 6: out on the West Coast.

2488
02:08:55,640 --> 02:08:56,800
Speaker 3: Could there be a factor there?

2489
02:08:56,920 --> 02:08:59,960
Speaker 6: I think so, but I think it's probably smaller than

2490
02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:01,840
Speaker 6: we all maybe make it out to be.

2491
02:09:02,200 --> 02:09:04,720
Speaker 2: You know, another thing I've wondered about Brandon, and I

2492
02:09:04,760 --> 02:09:07,560
Speaker 2: didn't know. You know, if you've ever talked to just

2493
02:09:07,600 --> 02:09:10,040
Speaker 2: for example, Weber or other guys you've had as analysts

2494
02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:14,160
Speaker 2: about this, we as fans or as media, over the

2495
02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:16,160
Speaker 2: course of a game, you know, we feel momentum, we

2496
02:09:16,200 --> 02:09:19,640
Speaker 2: feel swings, that kind of thing. And I'm always curious

2497
02:09:19,680 --> 02:09:22,680
Speaker 2: if players at the top, you know, top level players

2498
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:24,680
Speaker 2: in big moments, and I get at the end of

2499
02:09:24,680 --> 02:09:27,480
Speaker 2: that game against Nebraska, you know, Nebraska Vanderbilt for example,

2500
02:09:27,560 --> 02:09:30,600
Speaker 2: you obviously know the situation. But when it's a seven

2501
02:09:30,680 --> 02:09:33,120
Speaker 2: point game midway through the second half and one team

2502
02:09:33,160 --> 02:09:34,760
Speaker 2: goes on a four to nothing run, Now it's down

2503
02:09:34,760 --> 02:09:36,760
Speaker 2: to three, it's a one possession game. Do you think

2504
02:09:36,840 --> 02:09:41,200
Speaker 2: players at all times know the score in the situation

2505
02:09:41,480 --> 02:09:44,280
Speaker 2: or is it really just a matter of we've got

2506
02:09:44,280 --> 02:09:46,440
Speaker 2: to make sure that we are executing offensively on this

2507
02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:48,520
Speaker 2: possession and getting a stop at the other end on

2508
02:09:48,560 --> 02:09:52,280
Speaker 2: that possession, and every couple of trips down all glance

2509
02:09:52,360 --> 02:09:54,480
Speaker 2: up and see what the score is. Do players get

2510
02:09:54,520 --> 02:09:58,800
Speaker 2: caught up in the emotion that we do as observers.

2511
02:09:59,680 --> 02:10:01,840
Speaker 6: I mean, obviously with Chris Weber, you know you think

2512
02:10:01,880 --> 02:10:03,959
Speaker 6: about the timeout right and not being.

2513
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:04,880
Speaker 3: Aware that situation.

2514
02:10:05,120 --> 02:10:07,280
Speaker 6: But I think, by and large, I think they're locked

2515
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:10,240
Speaker 6: into the score. I think sometimes late games, what I

2516
02:10:10,320 --> 02:10:13,960
Speaker 6: have noticed is really good systems with really good experience

2517
02:10:14,000 --> 02:10:18,200
Speaker 6: head coaches, those players are locked in because their coach

2518
02:10:18,280 --> 02:10:21,160
Speaker 6: is so locked in. And I go back to when

2519
02:10:21,200 --> 02:10:24,200
Speaker 6: I was at Butler and that twenty eleven team, when

2520
02:10:24,280 --> 02:10:26,240
Speaker 6: I was doing the radio at Butler and they went

2521
02:10:26,280 --> 02:10:29,520
Speaker 6: on another unexpected run of the National Championship, and I

2522
02:10:29,560 --> 02:10:33,440
Speaker 6: remembered talking to then point guard Ron Norrid about why

2523
02:10:33,520 --> 02:10:36,200
Speaker 6: Butler was so poised. I said, is it because you

2524
02:10:36,240 --> 02:10:38,600
Speaker 6: guys are older and more experienced? And I remember Ron

2525
02:10:38,640 --> 02:10:42,800
Speaker 6: Selmis before the sweet sixteen game that year against Wisconsin,

2526
02:10:43,160 --> 02:10:46,560
Speaker 6: and he said, dude, with you've got Brad Stevens over there,

2527
02:10:46,600 --> 02:10:49,320
Speaker 6: who always has a steady heartbeat and who in every

2528
02:10:49,400 --> 02:10:52,080
Speaker 6: huddle is talking to you in the exact same tone.

2529
02:10:52,400 --> 02:10:54,640
Speaker 6: He said, it makes you step on the court with

2530
02:10:54,680 --> 02:10:58,360
Speaker 6: more confidence and poise because that your leader has that

2531
02:10:58,640 --> 02:11:01,800
Speaker 6: and he has that vision, that composure, and so I

2532
02:11:01,800 --> 02:11:04,800
Speaker 6: thought that was interesting. I'm sure that it's not always

2533
02:11:04,840 --> 02:11:07,080
Speaker 6: reflective just of the head coach, right. A lot of

2534
02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:09,000
Speaker 6: it is on the players. But I know that a

2535
02:11:09,000 --> 02:11:11,120
Speaker 6: lot of players feel like when your coach is on

2536
02:11:11,200 --> 02:11:13,600
Speaker 6: top of a situation and is it frantic and running

2537
02:11:13,600 --> 02:11:16,480
Speaker 6: around and nervous, then that carries over to how you

2538
02:11:16,640 --> 02:11:18,640
Speaker 6: are going to carry yourself on the court.

2539
02:11:18,840 --> 02:11:21,160
Speaker 2: Do you believe when you had that conversation with ron

2540
02:11:21,200 --> 02:11:23,320
Speaker 2: Nora that you were talking to the guy that would

2541
02:11:23,400 --> 02:11:27,440
Speaker 2: eventually become their twenty six twenty seven season head coach.

2542
02:11:29,200 --> 02:11:30,680
Speaker 6: No, I can't say that.

2543
02:11:30,840 --> 02:11:31,280
Speaker 2: I thought.

2544
02:11:31,600 --> 02:11:33,800
Speaker 6: I certainly thought that Ron Nord would be a coach

2545
02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:38,040
Speaker 6: that was always his vision. But yeah, I don't look

2546
02:11:38,080 --> 02:11:41,520
Speaker 6: that Butler job obviously is one that to me is

2547
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:45,280
Speaker 6: very coveted because I went there, I worked there. I'm

2548
02:11:45,280 --> 02:11:50,280
Speaker 6: so passionate about that place. I understand though that Butler

2549
02:11:50,320 --> 02:11:52,560
Speaker 6: is in a different place than it was when I

2550
02:11:52,680 --> 02:11:54,560
Speaker 6: was there. It's in a different league, right, but it

2551
02:11:54,680 --> 02:11:57,840
Speaker 6: also trying to compete. And I know you talk about this,

2552
02:11:58,400 --> 02:12:00,880
Speaker 6: the nil era is different and I'm not going to

2553
02:12:00,920 --> 02:12:02,760
Speaker 6: say the Butler doesn't have the money to compete in

2554
02:12:02,760 --> 02:12:04,320
Speaker 6: the Big East, but they're not ever going to be

2555
02:12:04,360 --> 02:12:07,000
Speaker 6: at the top end of the Big East financially, and

2556
02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:09,720
Speaker 6: so it just makes it an interesting job for anybody

2557
02:12:09,720 --> 02:12:11,200
Speaker 6: that gets that they're going to have to have a

2558
02:12:11,240 --> 02:12:14,880
Speaker 6: real conversation with ad Grant Liondecker and try to map

2559
02:12:14,920 --> 02:12:16,960
Speaker 6: out a plan as best they can, because all these

2560
02:12:17,000 --> 02:12:19,000
Speaker 6: guys now when they enter the poral or if they're

2561
02:12:19,040 --> 02:12:21,200
Speaker 6: coming out of high school, even the ones that are

2562
02:12:21,240 --> 02:12:24,840
Speaker 6: quote unquote unselfish, there's going to be a conversation about

2563
02:12:24,920 --> 02:12:27,960
Speaker 6: all right, great, yeah, love the facilities and everything, how much.

2564
02:12:27,840 --> 02:12:28,640
Speaker 3: Money are we talking?

2565
02:12:29,200 --> 02:12:32,240
Speaker 6: And that's gonna make it that's going to make it

2566
02:12:32,280 --> 02:12:34,360
Speaker 6: hard on anybody right now to try to take Butler

2567
02:12:34,400 --> 02:12:36,240
Speaker 6: from where they are to where they used to be.

2568
02:12:37,000 --> 02:12:41,040
Speaker 2: You are onto your responsibilities now with the Atlanta Braves.

2569
02:12:41,200 --> 02:12:44,200
Speaker 2: So the NCAA tournament. You will not be working regional

2570
02:12:44,240 --> 02:12:45,400
Speaker 2: finals weekend. Correct.

2571
02:12:46,280 --> 02:12:49,440
Speaker 6: Correct, Opening day is Friday. So now it's all baseball

2572
02:12:49,480 --> 02:12:49,720
Speaker 6: for me.

2573
02:12:50,200 --> 02:12:53,680
Speaker 3: Love it about the Braves. Yeah, yeah, how are we feeling.

2574
02:12:54,920 --> 02:12:57,760
Speaker 6: We're feeling like they could use a couple pictures because

2575
02:12:57,800 --> 02:13:01,520
Speaker 6: they're having some injuries. But it's I think in Vegas

2576
02:13:01,640 --> 02:13:04,480
Speaker 6: going into spring training they were the third favorite to

2577
02:13:04,480 --> 02:13:07,320
Speaker 6: win the World Series. I say that because there is

2578
02:13:07,360 --> 02:13:09,920
Speaker 6: something behind that. They've got the talent certainly to get

2579
02:13:09,920 --> 02:13:11,600
Speaker 6: that done. You know, the Dodgers at the top of

2580
02:13:11,640 --> 02:13:14,040
Speaker 6: the heat. But the Braves have an incredibly good team

2581
02:13:14,080 --> 02:13:15,560
Speaker 6: and it's just going to depend on whether or not

2582
02:13:15,600 --> 02:13:17,360
Speaker 6: they can keep their arms healthy, and if they do,

2583
02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:18,520
Speaker 6: they'll be in the postseason.

2584
02:13:18,560 --> 02:13:20,480
Speaker 2: Hey give me a team real quick, Brandon, before we

2585
02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:23,840
Speaker 2: let you go, that you've seen in the last let's

2586
02:13:23,880 --> 02:13:26,560
Speaker 2: say year or two, that when you watched them, you

2587
02:13:26,600 --> 02:13:28,800
Speaker 2: said to yourself, you know what, I can see some

2588
02:13:29,000 --> 02:13:31,640
Speaker 2: young talent here that if it comes together for them,

2589
02:13:32,200 --> 02:13:34,040
Speaker 2: they could make some noise in a year or two.

2590
02:13:34,080 --> 02:13:35,680
Speaker 1: That this year you're.

2591
02:13:35,440 --> 02:13:39,160
Speaker 2: Telling people, don't be surprised if you know they're hanging

2592
02:13:39,280 --> 02:13:43,160
Speaker 2: around towards the end of the year into the playoffs,

2593
02:13:43,200 --> 02:13:43,760
Speaker 2: who would it be.

2594
02:13:44,720 --> 02:13:46,480
Speaker 6: So we're talking base far are we going back to

2595
02:13:46,480 --> 02:13:47,000
Speaker 6: the NBA?

2596
02:13:47,000 --> 02:13:47,600
Speaker 1: No baseball?

2597
02:13:47,680 --> 02:13:48,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, no baseball.

2598
02:13:49,360 --> 02:13:53,320
Speaker 6: I mean I was a fan of the Tigers before

2599
02:13:53,440 --> 02:13:57,120
Speaker 6: last year started and that that based on their previous

2600
02:13:57,200 --> 02:14:00,200
Speaker 6: year what they were building, that they could be a

2601
02:14:00,240 --> 02:14:03,400
Speaker 6: World Series contender. And some people scoffed at that and

2602
02:14:03,440 --> 02:14:06,160
Speaker 6: said out to the Tigers. They did fold at the

2603
02:14:06,240 --> 02:14:09,240
Speaker 6: end of last season, but they rebuilt and they added

2604
02:14:09,240 --> 02:14:11,680
Speaker 6: to their pitching staff, and it's a team that is

2605
02:14:11,760 --> 02:14:15,120
Speaker 6: just not sexy. You say Detroit Tigers and people are like, oh,

2606
02:14:15,160 --> 02:14:17,200
Speaker 6: that's cute. Put them in the corner with the Lions.

2607
02:14:17,560 --> 02:14:20,480
Speaker 6: But I do think that the Tigers are a team

2608
02:14:20,520 --> 02:14:23,200
Speaker 6: that not many people talk about that should win that

2609
02:14:23,280 --> 02:14:26,240
Speaker 6: division again, and when they get in the postseason, if

2610
02:14:26,240 --> 02:14:29,240
Speaker 6: their pitching stays healthy, with that top three, they can

2611
02:14:29,280 --> 02:14:30,240
Speaker 6: win a World Series.

2612
02:14:31,080 --> 02:14:33,520
Speaker 2: And speaking of Detroit, by the way, to be fair

2613
02:14:33,600 --> 02:14:35,600
Speaker 2: to him, because he was your colleague in particular, over

2614
02:14:35,640 --> 02:14:39,040
Speaker 2: the weekend, Chris Weber did have an entire bench telling

2615
02:14:39,080 --> 02:14:40,760
Speaker 2: him to call that time out for what it's worth.

2616
02:14:40,840 --> 02:14:42,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, I.

2617
02:14:44,720 --> 02:14:46,560
Speaker 6: Didn't bring it up, but I will say this quickly,

2618
02:14:46,640 --> 02:14:48,920
Speaker 6: I had never met him. For as big of a

2619
02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:52,160
Speaker 6: superstar as he was shake the most humble guy that

2620
02:14:52,200 --> 02:14:54,560
Speaker 6: I have come across and tine and took a picture

2621
02:14:54,600 --> 02:14:56,400
Speaker 6: with everybody and could not have been nicer.

2622
02:14:57,120 --> 02:14:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that didn't surprise me.

2623
02:14:58,200 --> 02:15:00,280
Speaker 2: You know. He was my class at high school and

2624
02:15:00,400 --> 02:15:02,320
Speaker 2: we were the same class that it was a loaded class.

2625
02:15:02,360 --> 02:15:05,560
Speaker 2: I mean Weber, yeah, Glenn Robinson, Allen Henderson, and then

2626
02:15:06,720 --> 02:15:09,840
Speaker 2: had Jae Querry well myself. That goes without saying. Grant

2627
02:15:09,920 --> 02:15:13,400
Speaker 2: Hill was actually our grade but the year before. So

2628
02:15:13,400 --> 02:15:15,600
Speaker 2: it was a golden era for certain Jaalen Rows obviously

2629
02:15:15,640 --> 02:15:17,360
Speaker 2: the five great.

2630
02:15:17,400 --> 02:15:19,520
Speaker 3: Cheney was one year older, right.

2631
02:15:19,400 --> 02:15:21,520
Speaker 2: Cheney was two, Cheney was eight. We were all ninety

2632
02:15:21,520 --> 02:15:23,760
Speaker 2: one from high school. Cheney was eighty nine. And Cheney

2633
02:15:23,760 --> 02:15:25,640
Speaker 2: broke his foot senior year of high school, so he

2634
02:15:25,800 --> 02:15:28,480
Speaker 2: was like the That was a six player recruiting class

2635
02:15:28,520 --> 02:15:31,120
Speaker 2: that Indiana had. It was Chris lost and Chris Reynolds, Cheney,

2636
02:15:31,160 --> 02:15:35,080
Speaker 2: Greg Graham, Pac Graham, Todd Leary, and Chris Lawson was

2637
02:15:35,120 --> 02:15:36,880
Speaker 2: in there as well in Funnerberg actually, so it was

2638
02:15:36,880 --> 02:15:39,320
Speaker 2: a bigger class than that, and Cheney was like the

2639
02:15:39,400 --> 02:15:42,080
Speaker 2: last of all of them because he had a broken foot.

2640
02:15:42,160 --> 02:15:44,880
Speaker 2: And then you know, goes without said, that's why recruiting services. Brandon,

2641
02:15:44,920 --> 02:15:46,840
Speaker 2: I was kind of I take it with a grain

2642
02:15:46,880 --> 02:15:47,760
Speaker 2: of salt, you know what I mean.

2643
02:15:48,320 --> 02:15:50,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I should have remembered that. Being so, I went

2644
02:15:50,680 --> 02:15:52,640
Speaker 6: to Cheney's high school and I was at that game

2645
02:15:52,680 --> 02:15:54,480
Speaker 6: where he got injured. But I was really young. I

2646
02:15:54,560 --> 02:15:57,280
Speaker 6: was five going on six. My sister was a cheerleader.

2647
02:15:57,520 --> 02:15:59,760
Speaker 6: But I remember the first time before he broke his

2648
02:15:59,800 --> 02:16:02,200
Speaker 6: foot that Bobby Knight came down to watch Cheney for

2649
02:16:02,240 --> 02:16:04,680
Speaker 6: the first time. It was like the Pope was in town.

2650
02:16:04,760 --> 02:16:07,520
Speaker 6: He had six pops around him. They sat him in

2651
02:16:07,560 --> 02:16:10,040
Speaker 6: the corner, no one could go near him, and everybody

2652
02:16:10,080 --> 02:16:13,160
Speaker 6: in the crowd was already wearing their IU gear, and

2653
02:16:13,200 --> 02:16:15,080
Speaker 6: so they did. You know, it was just a different

2654
02:16:15,120 --> 02:16:16,400
Speaker 6: time for Indiana basket.

2655
02:16:16,520 --> 02:16:18,640
Speaker 2: He had, you know, he had committed to Jim Cruz

2656
02:16:18,720 --> 02:16:21,280
Speaker 2: and then he ended up you know, obviously Knight had

2657
02:16:21,440 --> 02:16:23,080
Speaker 2: had said like, hey, you should take a look at him,

2658
02:16:23,080 --> 02:16:25,000
Speaker 2: and then he ends up in Indiana. And then of

2659
02:16:25,000 --> 02:16:27,080
Speaker 2: course Walter McCarty would have been what two years behind

2660
02:16:27,160 --> 02:16:28,240
Speaker 2: him at Harrison as well.

2661
02:16:28,360 --> 02:16:30,920
Speaker 1: So yes, golden era for Harrison as well.

2662
02:16:30,960 --> 02:16:33,920
Speaker 2: All right, Brandon, enjoy the Brave season always appreciate the

2663
02:16:33,959 --> 02:16:35,320
Speaker 2: time man, look forward to having you back on.

2664
02:16:36,280 --> 02:16:37,360
Speaker 3: Thanks than take care, ma'am.

2665
02:16:37,520 --> 02:16:40,520
Speaker 2: Hi Brandon gotten joining us on the Java House Colbrew

2666
02:16:40,560 --> 02:16:44,680
Speaker 2: Coffee guest line JMV is here. We will get a

2667
02:16:44,720 --> 02:16:46,880
Speaker 2: peek as to what he has coming up on his

2668
02:16:46,920 --> 02:16:48,879
Speaker 2: big program. We'll do it as part of the crossover

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2674
02:17:03,440 --> 02:17:05,080
Speaker 2: see what John's got going on next.

2675
02:17:07,760 --> 02:17:08,920
Speaker 1: Okay, if you are.

2676
02:17:10,680 --> 02:17:17,240
Speaker 2: Gary that had Texas in our numbers game, then guess what, Gary,

2677
02:17:17,280 --> 02:17:20,279
Speaker 2: You are already a winner and I have already ordered

2678
02:17:20,280 --> 02:17:24,600
Speaker 2: your Texas hat. Alec Eddie's only friends said that he

2679
02:17:24,720 --> 02:17:27,640
Speaker 2: has had his choice of women for two years now

2680
02:17:27,680 --> 02:17:30,000
Speaker 2: by wearing his Connecticut hat that he wore that he

2681
02:17:30,040 --> 02:17:31,040
Speaker 2: won in the numbers game.

2682
02:17:31,520 --> 02:17:33,080
Speaker 1: Okay, where is that out? And about?

2683
02:17:33,280 --> 02:17:33,640
Speaker 2: Uh huh?

2684
02:17:33,680 --> 02:17:33,920
Speaker 7: Sure?

2685
02:17:34,400 --> 02:17:38,160
Speaker 2: And that sound you hear that might sound like you

2686
02:17:38,160 --> 02:17:42,360
Speaker 2: know some sort of the Canada goose. That's flying arid. No,

2687
02:17:42,520 --> 02:17:44,840
Speaker 2: that's the women flocking to Alec due to his Connecticut

2688
02:17:44,840 --> 02:17:46,480
Speaker 2: hat because he's told people I won this in the

2689
02:17:46,560 --> 02:17:48,879
Speaker 2: Quarry and Company numbers game. You can be the envy

2690
02:17:48,920 --> 02:17:52,800
Speaker 2: of all your friends and the talking point of any

2691
02:17:52,920 --> 02:17:55,160
Speaker 2: favorite cocktail party by wearing the hat you won in

2692
02:17:55,200 --> 02:17:58,920
Speaker 2: the Quary and Company Numbers game. And because Texas is

2693
02:17:59,360 --> 02:18:03,320
Speaker 2: the lowest doubled are the furthest advancing double digit seed.

2694
02:18:03,920 --> 02:18:07,000
Speaker 2: They are the lone Sweet sixteen participant with a double

2695
02:18:07,040 --> 02:18:10,240
Speaker 2: digit seed. That means that Gary's won the hat. Gary,

2696
02:18:10,280 --> 02:18:12,200
Speaker 2: you simply need to call in and give us your

2697
02:18:12,480 --> 02:18:15,480
Speaker 2: shipping information and we will get the hat to you. Also,

2698
02:18:15,680 --> 02:18:19,800
Speaker 2: Drew it would appear, and I've never before done this

2699
02:18:19,879 --> 02:18:23,080
Speaker 2: in the numbers game. I have never counted my chickens

2700
02:18:23,120 --> 02:18:27,160
Speaker 2: before they hatch yep. But in this case, the fifty

2701
02:18:27,280 --> 02:18:29,680
Speaker 2: nine points that Prairie View A and M was on

2702
02:18:29,720 --> 02:18:34,039
Speaker 2: the short end of and their loss to Florida is

2703
02:18:34,080 --> 02:18:38,840
Speaker 2: I believe the second largest margin in NCAA tournament history.

2704
02:18:38,920 --> 02:18:41,000
Speaker 1: Loyola of Chicago in their.

2705
02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:45,280
Speaker 2: Nineteen sixty three championship winning season had a sixty nine

2706
02:18:45,360 --> 02:18:48,480
Speaker 2: point victory and that is the biggest in tournament history,

2707
02:18:48,480 --> 02:18:50,280
Speaker 2: But the fifty nine points right now, I would be

2708
02:18:50,440 --> 02:18:52,560
Speaker 2: stunned if we did have a year A couple of

2709
02:18:52,600 --> 02:18:54,959
Speaker 2: years ago, twenty sixteen. I think it was when Villanova

2710
02:18:55,040 --> 02:18:59,000
Speaker 2: beat Oklahoma by forty something and the largest margin in

2711
02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:01,080
Speaker 2: that year's tournament in the final four. But I can't

2712
02:19:01,080 --> 02:19:04,199
Speaker 2: imagine anybody's going to lose by sixty. So therefore, Drew

2713
02:19:04,720 --> 02:19:08,320
Speaker 2: that Drew, Prairie View A and M. Drew call in

2714
02:19:08,440 --> 02:19:10,680
Speaker 2: at some point and give us your information. It's a

2715
02:19:10,680 --> 02:19:12,560
Speaker 2: pretty cool looking hat that I got for Prairie View

2716
02:19:12,600 --> 02:19:16,400
Speaker 2: A and M. Also a conversation starter at any gathering

2717
02:19:16,440 --> 02:19:17,040
Speaker 2: that you go to.

2718
02:19:17,240 --> 02:19:21,160
Speaker 3: Jake quick shout out slash. Happy belated birthday to Mow

2719
02:19:21,240 --> 02:19:26,720
Speaker 3: from Ohio. I texted his son on Saturday his birthday,

2720
02:19:27,040 --> 02:19:29,440
Speaker 3: and I asked him to pass it along to Big

2721
02:19:29,480 --> 02:19:32,240
Speaker 3: Mo and I apparently got left on red and there

2722
02:19:32,280 --> 02:19:34,600
Speaker 3: was no response. So I'm still being kind enough to

2723
02:19:34,600 --> 02:19:35,320
Speaker 3: wish him at.

2724
02:19:35,200 --> 02:19:38,160
Speaker 1: Happily birthday to Mo. Also, you know what today is, Eddie?

2725
02:19:38,320 --> 02:19:38,760
Speaker 3: What's up?

2726
02:19:39,040 --> 02:19:43,120
Speaker 2: Today is the three year anniversary of my adoption of Boo.

2727
02:19:43,640 --> 02:19:45,400
Speaker 1: Really, it's the Gotcha day for Booz.

2728
02:19:45,440 --> 02:19:46,200
Speaker 3: Do you know what tomorrow is?

2729
02:19:46,280 --> 02:19:46,480
Speaker 6: Jake?

2730
02:19:47,959 --> 02:19:50,640
Speaker 2: Tomorrow is the three year anniversary of Boo's first day

2731
02:19:50,640 --> 02:19:51,280
Speaker 2: of living with me.

2732
02:19:52,240 --> 02:19:56,519
Speaker 3: No, something much more significant.

2733
02:19:55,760 --> 02:19:58,240
Speaker 2: Opening day somewhere in Major League Baseball. It's my half

2734
02:19:58,240 --> 02:20:02,840
Speaker 2: birthday tomorrow. Well that's good. We'll be sure to wash

2735
02:20:02,879 --> 02:20:06,760
Speaker 2: you half a happy J ANDV has arrived, John. What's

2736
02:20:06,800 --> 02:20:07,560
Speaker 2: on the big program?

2737
02:20:07,840 --> 02:20:11,120
Speaker 8: H Dean Hart and kind of a regular thing with

2738
02:20:11,120 --> 02:20:14,320
Speaker 8: with holder Man his his Hurricanes now twice with Indiana

2739
02:20:14,360 --> 02:20:15,040
Speaker 8: teams go down.

2740
02:20:15,080 --> 02:20:15,760
Speaker 1: And today, by the.

2741
02:20:15,680 --> 02:20:18,880
Speaker 8: Way, is National Chips and Dip Day, I think. Yeah,

2742
02:20:19,040 --> 02:20:23,960
Speaker 8: shout out to Timmy from Seinfeld. Remember he confronted George Costanza.

2743
02:20:23,480 --> 02:20:28,120
Speaker 1: But just just eat the chip and end it.

2744
02:20:28,840 --> 02:20:33,039
Speaker 8: Yeah, Timmy was like even more nerdy Tucker Carlson, didn't

2745
02:20:33,080 --> 02:20:33,520
Speaker 8: he right there?

2746
02:20:33,879 --> 02:20:35,480
Speaker 3: Yeah Timmy, Hey Timmy.

2747
02:20:35,720 --> 02:20:36,960
Speaker 1: Timmy was livid over that.

2748
02:20:37,120 --> 02:20:42,440
Speaker 8: Hey Timmy, you dip your chips the way? It's awesome. Yeah, Nash,

2749
02:20:42,800 --> 02:20:44,560
Speaker 8: what's your what's your favorite dip out there? What do

2750
02:20:44,600 --> 02:20:47,680
Speaker 8: you got, man, I'll tell you choosing dip wise. Any

2751
02:20:48,560 --> 02:20:51,120
Speaker 8: any caso that has a little bit of salsa mixed in,

2752
02:20:51,320 --> 02:20:56,920
Speaker 8: I'm good with it. Although the El Emporium has a

2753
02:20:57,200 --> 02:21:00,600
Speaker 8: white cheesecaso that's okay, hard to beat. That's well done.

2754
02:21:01,160 --> 02:21:04,320
Speaker 8: I'm going with the hummus. The hummus of the Cluster Truck.

2755
02:21:04,440 --> 02:21:05,160
Speaker 1: Hummus is good.

2756
02:21:05,280 --> 02:21:08,280
Speaker 3: They make it themselves. It is badass.

2757
02:21:08,360 --> 02:21:08,560
Speaker 2: Man.

2758
02:21:08,600 --> 02:21:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get that next time.

2759
02:21:10,920 --> 02:21:13,040
Speaker 2: I've been doing the cheese case Sadia from Cluster Truck

2760
02:21:13,080 --> 02:21:14,320
Speaker 2: on the regular, but I might have to do them.

2761
02:21:14,760 --> 02:21:16,360
Speaker 3: The hummus is excellent.

2762
02:21:16,480 --> 02:21:19,360
Speaker 2: Everything over there is excellent. It is made fresh every time.

2763
02:21:19,440 --> 02:21:22,520
Speaker 8: How's your bracket? Anybody brack anybody crept out bracket wise?

2764
02:21:22,600 --> 02:21:22,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2765
02:21:22,760 --> 02:21:24,879
Speaker 2: I mean my two upset picks were Northern Iowa and

2766
02:21:24,920 --> 02:21:27,840
Speaker 2: Penn and they both completely.

2767
02:21:27,320 --> 02:21:28,520
Speaker 3: Final four still intact.

2768
02:21:29,360 --> 02:21:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I had Houston going to the championship game, and

2769
02:21:31,879 --> 02:21:36,400
Speaker 2: I think Houston looks pretty good. I don't think maybe

2770
02:21:36,400 --> 02:21:38,600
Speaker 2: in I might have had Florida in there. What about you?

2771
02:21:39,160 --> 02:21:39,720
Speaker 1: I'm still good.

2772
02:21:39,800 --> 02:21:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I had Purdue and I have I have Purdue

2773
02:21:42,320 --> 02:21:46,039
Speaker 2: wing at all. Yeah, that's they may, I mean, honestly is.

2774
02:21:46,280 --> 02:21:47,240
Speaker 1: Probably going to separate.

2775
02:21:47,320 --> 02:21:49,600
Speaker 8: I have Purdue and Houston and the championship game in

2776
02:21:49,680 --> 02:21:53,279
Speaker 8: Michigan State and Iowa State four way Houston.

2777
02:21:53,000 --> 02:21:55,879
Speaker 2: Defense Man and Iowa State, and they are welcome. I'll

2778
02:21:55,879 --> 02:21:57,720
Speaker 2: tell you what we didn't get into as much today.

2779
02:21:57,720 --> 02:22:00,360
Speaker 2: I'll get into it more tomorrow. But Ben call him

2780
02:22:00,360 --> 02:22:01,800
Speaker 2: can coach? Yeah?

2781
02:22:01,879 --> 02:22:04,200
Speaker 8: So hey, by the way, too, have we ever had

2782
02:22:04,320 --> 02:22:08,840
Speaker 8: a now the Big Ten? They're no coaching changeovers, right,

2783
02:22:08,959 --> 02:22:11,720
Speaker 8: no coaching changes being made of the Big Ten this year?

2784
02:22:12,040 --> 02:22:13,640
Speaker 8: Am I missing one? Off the top of my head?

2785
02:22:13,680 --> 02:22:16,480
Speaker 8: Here there are I know, when's the first time that's happened?

2786
02:22:16,879 --> 02:22:22,360
Speaker 8: And then might we get Carolina, Kansas and Kentucky? I

2787
02:22:22,400 --> 02:22:24,720
Speaker 8: don't maybe and this too, so you got those three

2788
02:22:24,840 --> 02:22:26,760
Speaker 8: so called blue But here's the thing, John, But I go,

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Speaker 8: if those three blue bloods are open, how many blue

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02:22:30,720 --> 02:22:33,160
Speaker 8: blood worthy like coaches are there that would you know

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02:22:33,200 --> 02:22:34,760
Speaker 8: what I mean, they want to jack around with any

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02:22:34,800 --> 02:22:35,680
Speaker 8: of this stuff anymore?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And we're getting a few and few of the

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Speaker 8: guys that quote want to jack around with any of

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02:22:41,120 --> 02:22:42,840
Speaker 8: this stuff anymore. I don't blame them.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Kentucky's the one that would surprise me that

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02:22:45,680 --> 02:22:48,440
Speaker 2: it wouldn't surprise me if self steps aside, Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Kentucky would surprise me if they make the move now

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Speaker 2: on Pope. But I but and Pope was a nice

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Speaker 2: guy when he played here, and I've heard is a

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02:22:54,640 --> 02:22:56,800
Speaker 2: really nice guy. But I'm kind of getting tired of

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02:22:56,840 --> 02:22:59,560
Speaker 2: the Like, anytime there's a question at all critical of Kentucky,

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02:22:59,600 --> 02:23:01,320
Speaker 2: it's like, well, oh that's we live in a world

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Speaker 2: now with his media making stuff up, and I'm just like, yeah, dude,

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02:23:05,480 --> 02:23:06,960
Speaker 2: come on man, oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 8: You embrace it when it's going favorable for you and

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Speaker 8: then you, yeah, you curse it whatever it's not. That's

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Speaker 8: just kind of the way that goes. Jake, It is

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Speaker 8: gonna be weird this offseason.

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Speaker 2: Uh sure. John is up next and he will carry

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Speaker 2: you home for the remainder of the day.

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Speaker 1: We will be back with you at noon tomorrow. And

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Speaker 1: I thank you for listening to Quarrying Company.