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Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel do you believe these characters are weirdos?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: Hammer? I saw this survey. I saw them talking about

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Speaker 3: it on the news this morning. A taxpayer funded consultant

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Speaker 3: group about IMPD has brought in some interesting results. About

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Speaker 3: twenty two hundred Indie community members surveyed, spanning every Marion

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Speaker 3: County zip code, and then also about what one thy

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Speaker 3: twelve hundred IMPD officers also surveyed.

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Speaker 4: He was a very big survey, very thorough, which it

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Speaker 4: should have been considering what this consulting group is getting.

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Speaker 3: Paid throw about what the current state.

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Speaker 4: Of IMPD, how the community views them, how the officers

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Speaker 4: themselves feel, and the best way to move.

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Speaker 3: Forward in the next five years.

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Speaker 4: Okay, now, it was executed by Maria Taylor and her

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Speaker 4: Taylor Advising Group.

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Speaker 3: This is a group that your tax money is paying for.

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Speaker 4: They did the survey and it was for some five

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Speaker 4: year roadmap for strategy with the IMPD and the highlights,

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Speaker 4: if you will, for the community members that were surveyed.

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Speaker 4: The over two thousand community members, seventy percent of them

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Speaker 4: say they feel safe in Indie during the daytime, but

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Speaker 4: that number drops to just forty two percent in the nighttime.

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Speaker 3: I mean that at a basic level makes sense, doesn't it,

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Speaker 4: Totally makes sense. And keep in mind, this survey was

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Speaker 4: done spanning every Marion County zip code, so everybody's represented here,

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Speaker 4: not just east Side, not just downtown, it's all zip

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Speaker 4: say yeah, I feel safe at nighttime, that's a pretty

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Speaker 4: damning number because let's be honest, Nige, you and I

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Speaker 4: get criticism all the time.

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Speaker 3: You're fear mongering.

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Speaker 4: These conservatives are scared to be downtime on mass have in.

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Speaker 3: The middle of the daytime with a beer. I don't

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Speaker 3: problem right, Yeah, well, it's not exactly the same at

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Speaker 3: night here in the city. And the numbers speak for themselves.

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Speaker 3: I would not my I have family that lived downtown,

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Speaker 3: outside past a certain hour, even even if you know

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Speaker 4: More on this survey, only half of the community who

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Speaker 4: answered this survey feel that the IMPD is trustworthy. Come on,

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Speaker 4: less than half of the community members believe that IMPD

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Speaker 4: is held accountable. So, okay, where does this come from.

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Speaker 4: Is this the media's representation of IMPD. Because we try

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Speaker 4: to be honest with you. When there's a reason to

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Speaker 4: we will do so.

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Speaker 3: Hell, I went at.

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Speaker 4: It with the head of the State Police over the

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Speaker 4: Delphi stuff for a long time. We got a great relationship,

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Speaker 4: you the truth and when IMPD is in the right,

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Speaker 4: we will let you know they're in the right. We

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Speaker 4: in the city that are on the opposite side of them.

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Speaker 3: But the ideology, the narrative is ingrained in some people

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Speaker 4: Right, That's what this is, acab All cops are bad,

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Speaker 4: That's what that is. Okay, So let's shift now to

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Speaker 4: what the IMPD officers themselves had to say. Again, twelve

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Speaker 3: Behind closed doors.

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Speaker 4: Only a quarter of the IMBD officers believe law enforcement

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Speaker 4: tells me the officers feel like nobody respects them.

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Speaker 3: That's morale. That's low morale.

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Speaker 4: Fifty four percent of the officers reported negative public or

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Speaker 4: And this is where the morale factor comes into. So

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Speaker 4: what this means to me, and if you're an officer,

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Speaker 4: This tells me the people you encounter every single day

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Speaker 4: sort of research themselves. That's where they're getting their talking

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Speaker 4: points from. In addition to shootings and violence, mental health

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Speaker 4: emerged as a top priority for IMPD officers across the board.

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Speaker 4: Should be Fifty nine percent of officers reported they feel

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Speaker 3: So just over fifty percent, almost sixty. So wait, you're

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Speaker 4: That I will be higher. Should be higher than fifty nine.

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Speaker 4: Fifty nine percent say they feel prepared to handle somebody

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Speaker 3: They train for this.

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Speaker 4: Yes, fifty six percent of IMPD employees say they feel

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Speaker 4: but I feel like that should be higher too.

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Speaker 3: You think that the officers in IMPD should that that

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, So basically half of the people surveyed, a

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Speaker 3: At the very least, those services are there, right, and

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Speaker 3: I think some of them, you know, depending on the situation,

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Speaker 4: So a statement was released by the FOP President, Rick Snyder,

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Speaker 3: Man. I like Rick a great deal, of course, I've

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Speaker 3: known him for years, man national chaplain for the FOP.

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Speaker 4: This is his statement on behalf of the FOP to

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Speaker 4: the results of the survey.

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Speaker 3: Quote.

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Speaker 4: Our FOP reviewed the results of the latest IMPD. Sir

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Speaker 4: completed by an outside company at a high expense to

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Speaker 4: the taxpayers of Indianapolis. The results show the following staffing

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Speaker 4: shortages are the most pressing challenge for IMPD. Low officer

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Speaker 4: morale is a real thing. Community trust in the IMPD

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Speaker 4: has been shaken since twenty twenty. Negative public perception affects

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Speaker 4: safe in the daytime, unsafe at night. These are all

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Speaker 4: things our police organization has said for the past five years.

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Speaker 4: All these issues are compounded and attributable to the broken

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Speaker 3: Weak prosecutors, soft judges.

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Speaker 4: Seeing the same people every day right arresting the same

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Speaker 3: If you're a police officer, it's got to be.

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Speaker 4: The statement goes on to say, quote lack of accountability

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Speaker 4: further supported by FOP climate surveys that showed low officer

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Speaker 4: favorite part of the statement from the FOP quote, so

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Speaker 4: where is the survey on the public sentiment about Indie's

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Speaker 4: criminal justice system? Furthermore, the National FOP released survey results

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Speaker 4: law enforcement. Last year, the Indie FOP published the Officer

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Speaker 4: Shortage Concerns for Policing Safety on billboards in downtown Indie,

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Speaker 4: and politicians, propagandists, and corporate leaders scoffed. Perhaps it took

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Speaker 4: funneling hundreds of thousands of dollars to outside organizations to

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Speaker 4: confirm what cops have been saying. Welcome to the discussion.

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Speaker 4: That was the response from the FOP. And I agree

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Speaker 4: with that part about where's the big survey about Indie's

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Speaker 4: criminal justice system? Where is the report from Marla Taylor

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Speaker 3: Here the judges and the prosecutor.

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Speaker 4: If you're going to spend our taxpayer money, I mean,

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Speaker 4: let's get it all covered here.

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Speaker 3: And look as long as we're talking about it. There

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Speaker 3: was an article in the Indie Star. The headline retired

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Speaker 3: judge said, thirty two hundred buds thirty two dollars bond

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Speaker 3: He's talking about stoner, right, Judge, Mark Stone and Murphy ridiculous. Man,

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Speaker 3: You and listening to the Hammer and Nigel Show. Yeah, Nigel,

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Speaker 3: that's Hammer over there. I'll be hosting the tailgate at

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Speaker 3: the Slippery Noodle this Sunday before the Colts game. They play.

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Speaker 3: The Titans kick off at like four twenty five, So

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Speaker 3: I mean it's gonna be fun, man like the ultimate

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Speaker 3: Slippery Noodle. So I'll be there and come join us.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 4: And those afternoon Colt games. What's great is you can

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Speaker 4: get there for the tailgate the other games. The early

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Speaker 3: Some bears, you can have some.

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Speaker 4: Drinks, play some cornhole, mix it up with all the

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Speaker 4: and keep an eye on what's happening around the league,

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Speaker 4: keep your fantasy stats, you're gambling, keep an eye on it,

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Speaker 3: If you're going to the game. What is that line

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Speaker 3: to jinx it, but I mean, come on, man, like

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Speaker 3: you guys talk to about the team fourteen right now?

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Speaker 3: Fourteen is a number. That's a big number in the NFL. Now.

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Speaker 4: I gave a long shot bet on the podcast the

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Speaker 3: I'll give it out here too. Okay, so this is

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Speaker 3: a long shot.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the odds are not in your favor, but I

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Speaker 4: think we got a shot in this. Three games this year,

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor has scored three touchdowns, which is amazing, right,

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Speaker 4: three touchdowns in three different games. The Tennessee Titans are

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Speaker 4: the second worst team in the NFL defending the run.

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Speaker 4: So if you think the Colts are going to have

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Speaker 4: few times, you can get Jonathan Taylor. Three touchdowns are

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Speaker 4: more at plus eight hundred on most of your sports

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Speaker 4: betting apps, meaning it's basically eight to one.

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Speaker 3: So at ten dollars bet payout, I'm doing that right now.

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Speaker 4: It's a long shot. Like I said, the odds are

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Speaker 4: not in your favor. But Kirk Jeralds, who's filling in

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Speaker 4: for Alison today, I think we got a shot in

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna ride that. And let me tell you something

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Speaker 5: that's done me well this year. Tyler Warren first touchdown score.

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Speaker 4: Tyler Warren bolts rookie tied end get it, three weeks

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Speaker 4: in a row.

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Speaker 3: He is a red zone threat for sure.

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Speaker 5: I like those.

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Speaker 3: Tell me again real quick. I'm sorry. Just the Jonathan

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Speaker 3: Taylor bet.

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Taylor three touchdowns plus okay, three touchdowns, so he

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Speaker 4: scores three touchdowns, it's plus eight hundred, so that's a

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Speaker 4: pretty good payout. Again if it loses, Hey, the odds

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Speaker 4: a long shot that I think we've got a chance at.

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Speaker 3: And where could people listen to the rest of your

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Speaker 3: You and Rob's podcast?

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Speaker 4: Man, I had a good night last night Degenerates next door.

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Speaker 4: So last night we had the Chargers minus three. That

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you asked. Arguments is simply what it entails.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't help myself. Philip Philly is not the only one.

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Speaker 4: Once again this year, I'll be sponsoring a fatherless family

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Speaker 3: Sometimes when I wake up in the morning, mister McCracken

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Speaker 3: Just the insincere insincerity of McCracken. Two. Just that he's

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Speaker 4: So Allison is taking a vacation day. Kurt Gerald's is here. Kurt,

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Speaker 5: Okay, his is great, but I Raised You potentially the

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Speaker 8: Okay, but since we haven't won a pennant in over

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Speaker 3: Not even in our own hotel.

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Speaker 3: Matter how far out of first we are, it's cool,

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Speaker 8: Serrano heating, people still don't recognize us, Bud, We're contenders.

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Speaker 3: Now, the American Express Card. Don't steal home without it.

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Speaker 3: Greatest baseball movie ever? Major League? Yes, who did the

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Speaker 3: find more barguments? You can go on YouTube and watch

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Speaker 3: it if you want to see what exactly what I

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Speaker 3: look like. I don't recommend that, but you also download

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Speaker 3: it on anywhere that you get your podcasts. It is

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Speaker 3: called Bargument. Have added there's also a Facebook group that

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Speaker 3: is really active and has a ton of good arguments

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Speaker 3: on there as well. So if you want to kill

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Speaker 3: some time at work and make it go by a

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Speaker 3: little bit faster, hit that group as well as arguments.

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Speaker 3: Enjoy it, fellas, I appreciate it. Let me come out

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Speaker 3: and play. Oh you got it, brother, it's the Hammer

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Speaker 3: and Nigel Show. You was listening to The Hammer and

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Speaker 3: Nigel Show. Well, Hammer another love boat was bombed out

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Speaker 3: of the ocean. You mean way. Oh, I'm sorry, I

453
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Speaker 3: got that wrong. A Narco drug boat, Oh, drug boats?

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Speaker 3: I love that. Six more dead Narco terrorists sent to

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Speaker 3: the US. Striking in a Caribbean of a drug running

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Speaker 3: boat near Venezuela, the tenth, ten tenth known strike in

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Speaker 3: President Trump's military campaign. Unbelievable. I'm ready for ten more.

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Speaker 4: I love watching these narco terrorist drug dealing pieces of

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Speaker 4: excrement meet Satan.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 4: I can't stop watching it, Like if you show me

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Speaker 4: the video of it. I know what's coming. I know

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Speaker 4: what's coming, and I still watch it and I cheer

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Speaker 4: every time I see these bastards get blown up.

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Speaker 3: Does that make me a great American or just a

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Speaker 3: How do you know they're Narco terrorists? How do you

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Speaker 3: know they're not just fishing? How do I know you're

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Speaker 3: a lib Well, I would say one of the things

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Speaker 3: is they have like four motors on those boats, and

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Speaker 3: they have all those drugs weighing them down, and they

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Speaker 3: have ways of trying to get away from the navy

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Speaker 3: or other boats that are chasing them. So screw the navy.

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Speaker 3: Just have the navy or the air Force bomb the.

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Speaker 4: Hell out of them, and the drone pictures of the

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Speaker 4: feanyl then floating in the water.

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Speaker 3: It's a pretty good indication of what was going on.

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Speaker 3: Although I'm worried about the fish, some dead sharks at

478
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Speaker 3: the bottom of the Osian that got too much fentanyl from.

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Speaker 4: The people that brought you cocaine. Bear, now bring you

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Speaker 4: fentanyl shark. Fentanyl fish, feentanyl fish. Oh man, I love

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Speaker 4: watching these drug dealers get blown up. Donald Trump is

482
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Speaker 4: a genius in the fact that because he knows people

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Speaker 4: hate him so much on the other side of the aisle,

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Speaker 4: it puts them in a position to be pro Venezuelan

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Speaker 4: drug deal But keep in mind, fentanol is like the

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Speaker 4: number one killer of like young teenage men in this country,

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Speaker 4: and Trump man, he puts the left in a position

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Speaker 4: to defend the narco terrorists.

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Speaker 3: He was asked about it at a presser yesterday.

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Speaker 4: If you are declaring war against these cartels, and Congress

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Speaker 4: is likely to.

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Speaker 7: Approve of that process, why not just ask for a

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Speaker 7: declaration of war.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't think we're gonna necessarily ask for a

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Speaker 3: declaration of war. I think we're just gonna kill people

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Speaker 3: that are bringing drugs into our country. Okay, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: kill them. You know they're gonna be like dead. I

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Speaker 3: love the way Trump says dead.

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Speaker 4: Great moments in Trump's saying dead History here is when

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Speaker 4: Albag Daddy, the terrorist leader was killed. You're gonna hear

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00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 4: Trump in a professional setting really struggling to get through

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Speaker 4: his name. And then rally Trump which is a little different.

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Speaker 3: Aboo the car albag Doti is dead. Albergdaddy is dead,

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Speaker 3: dead dead dead dead dead dead. Great moments and Trump's

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Speaker 3: saying dead history. Hammer and Nigel do you believe these

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Speaker 3: characters are weirdos? N name is Diegel Jason Hammer right

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Speaker 3: over there, It's I don't know, It's unfathomable to me,

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Speaker 3: and maybe I'm just out of it. At Hazing still

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Speaker 3: goes on at fraternities here, especially in Indiana like at IU.

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Speaker 3: They've been in so much trouble right before with with

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Speaker 3: with the issues of hazing and so who are these

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Speaker 3: guys by Kappa PSI.

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Speaker 4: Their fraternity has been issued a cease and desist from

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Speaker 4: Indiana University because of a hazing incident that sent two

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Speaker 4: people to the hospital.

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Speaker 3: Do we have any more det in that I'm assuming

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Speaker 3: alcohol was involved. They're like, you know, the end of

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Speaker 3: a broom handle or anything like that was it.

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Speaker 4: I don't believe, so I don't have the exact details,

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Speaker 4: but it's never good when people get sent to the

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Speaker 4: hospital and it feels like and you mentioned it just

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Speaker 4: a second ago, it's always I you like, I'm sure

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Speaker 4: Purdue has a pretty wild Greek system. I'm sure you know,

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Speaker 4: Butler or whoever probably has a wild Greek system. But

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Speaker 4: something about I you, they're always the ones to get

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Speaker 4: in trouble for.

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Speaker 3: This kind of stuff. But you think, but it's not

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Speaker 3: Revenge of the Nerds nineteen eighty five anymore.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm aware of the mean and tell I you

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Speaker 4: because they're the ones doing it. Jim Carrey, your thoughts

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Speaker 4: on the IU Greek system.

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Speaker 3: Stop breaking exactly, stop breaking here one more time. Liar

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Speaker 3: Liar is an underrated Jim Carrey film.

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Speaker 4: Oh, yes, you're talking about you know, Ace Ventura or

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Speaker 4: Dumb and Dumber Liar Liars Strong. But seriously, I you,

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Speaker 4: it's not Revenge of the Nerds anymore. You can't have

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Speaker 4: Ogre holding a nerd over a balcony, you know, And

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Speaker 4: that's that's gonna fly in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Dropping him in his underwear into the bushes below right window. Uh.

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Speaker 3: Democratic Rep. Jasmine Crockett, No like you, Crackett. She's a

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Speaker 3: bit of a flame thrower for the political left.

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Speaker 4: Whatever she is considering entering the Senate race in Texas,

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Speaker 4: please do because they're doing the whole redistrict changing the

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Speaker 4: congressional maps down there. She may lose her congressional seat

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Speaker 4: if that happens. So she's like, I don't want to

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Speaker 4: get a real job. I will just try to throw

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Speaker 4: my hat in the Senate race. And I don't know

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Speaker 4: if this is good or not.

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Speaker 3: Beato 'rourke has.

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Speaker 4: Announced he may be supporting Jasmine Crockett in this race.

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Speaker 4: He's not officially endorsed the camp that it yet, but.

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Speaker 3: He's leaning putting his support behind Jasmine Crockett. If I'm Jasmine,

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Speaker 3: I don't want it. I'm just I'm just fine. Beto's

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Speaker 3: such a loser. I'm just fine without your endorsement. I've

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Speaker 3: got a high enough profile if I'm Jasmine Crockett, and

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Speaker 3: she does have a high profile, no matter what we

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Speaker 3: say about her, that you know, a Senate run, I mean,

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Speaker 3: please run for Senny, she's gonna get the breaks beaten

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Speaker 3: off of her. But still Beto's endorsement. And I love

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Speaker 3: that he's, you know.

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Speaker 4: Not all in just yet, Like he's keeping us on

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Speaker 4: pins and needles, like it's the Lebron decision a couple

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Speaker 4: of years ago.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, who's Beto going to endorse? Who cares nobody.

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Speaker 4: It'd be like in Indiana, Ooh, is Destiny Wells going

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Speaker 4: to support me or not? By the way, our producer today,

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Speaker 4: Kurt Gerald's, was just cooking Testiny Wells.

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Speaker 3: On Twitter the other day. It was fantastic. She was

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Speaker 3: getting lippy, she was getting mouthy, and she said, the.

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Speaker 4: Only reason I listened to WIBC is because of Kurt,

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Speaker 4: and she meant Kurt Darling, who hasn't worked here in

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Speaker 4: like a year. But our producer, Kurt Gerald's jumped in

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Speaker 4: and said, keep my name out of your perpetually losing mouth.

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Speaker 4: And they had a little back and forth and Kurt

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Speaker 4: my man was just cooking, okay, cooking Destiny Wells.

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Speaker 3: It was awesome.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Where are we at with Stephen A.

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Speaker 4: Smith trying to become the next Clay Travis Nige? He

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Speaker 4: wants to be not only a sports guy. Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: he wants to talk politics too.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of Clay Travis has made that well, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to say transition, but he's he's made. He's

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Speaker 3: been successful on the sporting side of things as well

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Speaker 3: as hot tape political guy. Right, and Clay's good at both.

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Speaker 4: Right, he went from being a sports guy to being

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Speaker 4: let's be honest, he's kind of the replacement. And I

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Speaker 4: hate using that word for Rush Limbaugh. When Rush passed away,

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Speaker 4: Clay's morning show became the National.

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Speaker 3: Clay and Buck Show, right, Buck Sexton, Well, Steven A.

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Speaker 4: Smith wants a piece of that action, all right, but

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he's good enough politically to pull

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Speaker 4: it off. And here's what I'm talking about. So there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of angles with this NBA gambling probe that's

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Speaker 4: going on. There's a lot of angles you could take.

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Speaker 3: Stephen A. Smith found the most ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: One to talk about blaming Donald Trump being angry at

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Speaker 4: athletes for taking knees, for the George Floyd protests, for

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Speaker 4: not visiting the White House. He feels like Donald Trump

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Speaker 4: is now taking it out on the NBA.

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Speaker 6: But anybody that has been around him anybody that has

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Speaker 6: talked to him, anybody that has seen his reactions from

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Speaker 6: the sports leagues and the positions that people have taken,

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Speaker 6: they are not surprised at what's going on today.

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Speaker 3: It's not an accident. It's a statement, and it's a

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Speaker 3: warning that more coming. I don't get it. I don't

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Speaker 3: understand that at all.

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Speaker 4: Because the sports leagues were against Donald Trump, He's going

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Speaker 4: to go after the sports leagues, and that's what this

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Speaker 4: whole NBA gambling probe is about.

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Speaker 3: I don't see the correlation in any way, shape or

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Speaker 3: for them whatsoever. I think these guys have to have

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Speaker 3: hot takes. I think they have to be unique, and sometimes.

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Speaker 4: They don't always have to make sense in this case, right, Listen,

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Speaker 4: there's no shortage of angles politically with this gambling story. Like,

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Speaker 4: if you're a conservative, you could make the case of saying, now,

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Speaker 4: wait a minute, we're going to arrest the Portland basketball

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Speaker 4: coach for gambling. But yet people in Portland burn down

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Speaker 4: federal buildings and assault people all the time. Why isn't

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Speaker 4: the fbis tough on them? Okay, that's an angle. If

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Speaker 4: you're somebody that's on the political left, you could tell

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Speaker 4: me now, wait a minute. All of the Epstein clients

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Speaker 4: are living their best life out there. But Chauncey Billups

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Speaker 4: plays poker in a back alley with them, and we're

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Speaker 4: making him public enemy number one.

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Speaker 3: What's going on here? I will listen to.

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Speaker 4: Both of those sides. But the side of well, they

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Speaker 4: were taking knees back in the day. So Trump's going.

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Speaker 3: At the NBA. That's ridiculous. Does it makes sense? No cash?

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Speaker 4: Buttel FBI director went on with Laura Ingram last night

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Speaker 4: to respond to Steven A.

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Speaker 3: Smith's claims.

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Speaker 1: Stephen A.

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Speaker 6: Smith, the sports commentator, suggested that revenge from the president

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Speaker 6: for all the kind of left wing activism of the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Your response to that fifteen seconds.

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Speaker 9: I'm the FBI director. I decide which arrested conduct and

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Speaker 9: which not to conduct. That may be the single dumbest

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Speaker 9: thing I've ever heard of anyone in modern history. And

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Speaker 9: I live most of my time in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 9: It's right up there with Adam Schiff. We arrest people

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Speaker 9: for crimes.

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Speaker 3: What I just say, Okay, what I just say? Now?

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Speaker 3: I don't want to just cook Stephen A. Smith here.

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Speaker 3: He did do something that I thought was rather noble politically.

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Speaker 4: He had a governor Fat Pig on his podcast, Governor

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Speaker 4: Pritzker Illinois, and he told Fat Pig right to his

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Speaker 4: face that Chicago violence has been alarming.

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Speaker 6: It's been incredibly alarming to hear one year after another

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Speaker 6: after another, what's been going on.

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Speaker 3: In the streets of Chicago.

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Speaker 6: It still alarms me that so much stuff has gone

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Speaker 6: on in the streets of Chicago's spanning decades.

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Speaker 3: How concerned have you been about it?

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Speaker 6: And most importantly, how do you address local families asking

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Speaker 6: for ice and local law enforcement just to keep them safe?

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Speaker 3: Because that has happened.

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Speaker 7: I've added so many more state police than have been

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Speaker 7: there in quite a long time, and we've invested in

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Speaker 7: community violence intervention and it's working. And you can see

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Speaker 7: it if you look back four years. Every year, every

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Speaker 7: year we've reduced significantly. It's now homicide rate down fifty

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Speaker 7: percent now years ago. We continue to make the investments here.

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Speaker 7: But Donald Trump actually defund did the police?

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump actually defunded the police? Go to the buffet,

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Speaker 4: Matt Bear standing by with a.

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Speaker 3: Look at the roads? Are you really okay?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Are yeah? I'm fine, I'm pretty free.

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Speaker 9: Far from okay?

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Speaker 3: Are you okay with this? On the Hammer and Nigels.

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Speaker 3: Something called scream Clubs started in Chicago and have now

673
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Speaker 3: become a global phenomena Hammer. They're opening up everywhere and

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Speaker 3: offer a public spot to scream with other stressed out people.

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Speaker 3: Here are some of the members of the DC chapter

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Speaker 3: screaming and then talking about the club.

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Speaker 11: Scream club is a opportunity to come out and be

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Speaker 11: in community with other people and do a breathing exercise

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Speaker 11: and a mindful reset.

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Speaker 9: I have made some transitions into a new place and

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Speaker 9: it has not been going as smoothly as I would

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Speaker 9: like it to.

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Speaker 3: Go, and so I needed to get that out. You know,

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Speaker 3: I feel really good.

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Speaker 2: It was such a nice release, and I feel like

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Speaker 2: my chest feels better, like the anxiety kind of goes

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Speaker 2: to my chest usually, and it feels released.

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Speaker 3: Screen clubs. Are you okay with screen clubs? This may

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Speaker 3: be the dumbest thing I've ever heard. You realize you

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Speaker 3: can scream at home? Right? You can yell in your

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Speaker 3: house or apartment. Somebody might hear you call the police

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Speaker 3: though in Chicago or Washington, d C. No, they're not good. Point.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty much everyday life for people living in apartments.

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Speaker 4: Right, there's somebody screaming in Chicago and DC right now.

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Speaker 3: I promise if you know this has I know I

696
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Speaker 3: heard that lady say, well, I'm going through a difficult

697
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Speaker 3: transition in life and this just Donald Trump. Right. It

698
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Speaker 3: has to remember when Donald Trump got elected the first

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Speaker 3: time around, and people were on their knees screaming in

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Speaker 3: the streets. That's exactly what this is one of.

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Speaker 4: The great gifts of all time that Karen wearing the

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Speaker 4: hat screaming at the sky.

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Speaker 3: Now, I'm wondering if Republicans are welcome to this club.

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Speaker 3: Kimberly Gilfoyle, remember her former Fox News host. She dated

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Speaker 3: a junior for a long time there.

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Speaker 4: When she gave her speech at the RNC, she basically

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Speaker 4: screened for five minutes on the stage for some reason,

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Speaker 4: and that spawned the Kimberly Guilfoil challenge on social media.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, leaders and fighters for freedom and liberty

710
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Speaker 3: and the American Dream. The best is yet too calm,

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen of the American Dream.

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Speaker 2: The best. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: This was during COVID two when she didn't have an audience,

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Speaker 3: right right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Dude, comes the arrogant dream.

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Speaker 3: The best is yet come, and that's called what the Guilfoil?

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Speaker 3: Guilfoil Show ladies and gentlemen, leaders and fighters. An Alabama

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Speaker 3: jewelry store owner decided to personalize his new fake eye

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Speaker 3: by having a diamond embedded in it. He goes by

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Speaker 3: diamond Ie Creative, that's his nickname, Diamond I. He is

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Speaker 3: getting his bejeweled eye removed and polished and then put

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Speaker 3: back in. DIAMONDI here Jon Dread Company. We got John

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Speaker 3: him the maker of the diamond.

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Speaker 2: Today.

725
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Speaker 3: He's will take it out clean and put it back in.

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Speaker 7: You gets.

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Speaker 11: Its probably five million year six.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I feel like I can do it by myself.

729
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Speaker 3: Are you okay with diamond I?

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you got the money to pull it off, sure,

731
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Speaker 4: diamond any part of your body. If you want to

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Speaker 4: be diamond eye, diamond ear, diamond crank, You've got my blessing,

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Speaker 4: go for it. But I'm just wondering, like, how many

734
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Speaker 4: people in the state of Alabama can afford this, other

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Speaker 4: than football players, you know in the sec how many

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Speaker 4: people in the state can afford cosmetic surgery like this.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's cubic zirconium, or maybe you know, like lab

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Speaker 3: grown or something like that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Like when you told me somebody from

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Speaker 4: Alabama wanted to have their fake I worked on. I

741
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Speaker 4: just assumed it was like a ping pong ball or

742
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Speaker 4: something they were popping out, which Nige brings us to

743
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Speaker 4: another round of the award winning segment called Alabama Jokes.

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Speaker 3: Queue up the band, Hey, Alabama jokes. All jokes, but

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Speaker 3: the state of Alabama from me? Okay, big nudge? What's

746
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Speaker 3: the official motto of the state of Alabama? Don't know?

747
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 4: It's roll tide, followed by ride cousinshio big nudge. What's

748
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 4: the official state bird in Alabama? Some hillbilly's middle finger

749
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Speaker 4: when you break the outhouse of their trailer hioh. In Alabama,

750
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 4: the transfer portal simply means you've broken up with your

751
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Speaker 4: sister to date your cousin hioh.

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Speaker 3: Back nudge. What's the most popular dating app in Alabama?

753
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Speaker 3: Only cousins?

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00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 4: When Nick Saban retired from coaching at Alabama, half the

755
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Speaker 4: state bought emotional support animals.

756
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: The other half married theirs. WHOA big nights? Hello? How

757
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 3: do you describe an Alabama threesome? No clue? Three people

758
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Speaker 3: with the same last name and father. Hi, oh big nights. More,

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Speaker 3: There's more, what's the Alabama version of Netflix? And Chill

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Speaker 3: tell me waffle House and Black Eyes?

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Speaker 1: Hio.

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Speaker 3: And lastly, if what.

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Speaker 4: Happens in Vegas stays in Vegas and Alabama, what happens

764
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Speaker 4: in the trailer park stays in your sister heioh Alabama

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Speaker 4: jokes here on the Hammer in Nigel's show.

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Speaker 3: Wow impressive, Wow they hate for Alabama. Don't worry about it, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Dylan Gwynn from Breitbart, He's going to break down this

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Speaker 3: gambling scandal for us next. It goes so much deeper

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Speaker 3: than what you're seeing on the headlines too. This is

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Speaker 3: a national story, not just in the sporting industry but

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Speaker 3: mainstream media. Hammer.

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Speaker 4: And despite what Stephen A. Smith says, it has nothing

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Speaker 4: to do with Trump. Dylan gwen and Beer sample Friday

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Speaker 4: on the way. Right now, let's break down and have

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Speaker 4: a look at the news.

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Speaker 3: He Sta Hammer Nigel Show. My name is Nigel, Jason

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Speaker 3: Hammer right over there. I think the biggest in media

778
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Speaker 3: this week. I'm not just talking about sports media. Hammer.

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Speaker 3: I think you would agree the biggest story in mainstream

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Speaker 3: media is how the NBA has been rocked by this

781
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Speaker 3: gambling scandal, coaches and players arrested here to cover it all,

782
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Speaker 3: to make sense of it for us bright bart News

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Speaker 3: sports editor Dylan Gwynn. Dylan, thanks for coming on today. Man,

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Speaker 3: where do we begin with this? And how long do

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Speaker 3: we know about this?

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Speaker 1: Well, those are two very interesting questions, and the NBA

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Speaker 1: is going to have to answer one of those questions

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Speaker 1: very soon here because these these investigations, first of all,

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Speaker 1: to catch everybody up. Thirty one arrests made this week

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Speaker 1: in a in a sting or a probe from the FBI,

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Speaker 1: a gambling probe that has ties to organized crime, by

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Speaker 1: the way, ties to some of the biggest names in

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Speaker 1: the mafia, the Genaviese family, the Lukes family, the Bonados,

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Speaker 1: some of those some of the biggest crime families in America.

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Speaker 1: So this is a huge operation by the FBI here,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of it has time to the NBA,

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Speaker 1: but the investigation was focused on the years between twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two and twenty twenty four, so this has been

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Speaker 1: going on for a very long time. One of the

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Speaker 1: NBA players involved and who was arrested on Thursday, was

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Speaker 1: Terry Rogier or the Miami Heat. He's a guard, not

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Speaker 1: you know, a name star of the league, but a

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Speaker 1: player in the league. He was arrested Thursday outside the

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Speaker 1: team hotel in Orlando. They were in town to play

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Speaker 1: the Orlando Magic, and he was busted. The NBA is

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00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: going to have to answer a couple of very uncomfortable

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00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: questions here for them, because the allegations surrounding him are

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Speaker 1: about a game in March of twenty twenty three where

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Speaker 1: he left after nine minutes, and according to the indictment,

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Speaker 1: he had told friends beforehand that he was going to

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Speaker 1: suffer a injury in this game early on and that

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Speaker 1: they should go ahead and basically take the unders. For

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Speaker 1: those of you out there don't know the prop betfield,

814
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: you know, each player has a stat what they're what

815
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Speaker 1: they're expected to do in that game. And he told

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Speaker 1: his friends to go in and bet big on the

817
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Speaker 1: unders because he was going to have this purported injury

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Speaker 1: around the nine minute mark of the game, which he did,

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Speaker 1: and and one hundred over two hundred thousand dollars came

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Speaker 1: in in gambling and wagering on Terry Rogier's unders in

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Speaker 1: this game, and the NBA found out about it. They pulled.

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Speaker 1: He didn't play for the rest of the season, but

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Speaker 1: he has played since then, And the NBA is gonna

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Speaker 1: have to answer some questions here, like why was Terry

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Speaker 1: Rogier ever allowed to play in the NBA ever again?

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Speaker 1: Because the sports books in Vegas flagged this very suspicious

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Speaker 1: activity immediately.

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Speaker 3: Right, They're not stupid. They talk to each other, right.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, No, there's all kinds of safeguards here.

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Speaker 1: The sports leagues and the sports books in Las Vegas

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Speaker 1: communicate all the time because to prevent this exact kind

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Speaker 1: of thing. And here's the thing, guys.

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Speaker 3: This this done worked.

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Speaker 1: It absolutely worked. The sportsbooks caught it. They called the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Terry Rozier goes on this. You know, he was taken

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Speaker 1: out for a while. I don't think he played the

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Speaker 1: rest of that season, but he was. He was brought

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Speaker 1: back eventually, and the NBA is going to have to

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Speaker 1: answer some questions about why they elected to allow him

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Speaker 1: to continue to appear on an NBA basketball court when

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Speaker 1: he had been implicated in this gambling scheme that they

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Speaker 1: knew about. So this isn't this isn't the kind of

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Speaker 1: thing where where this was held from the NBA or

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Speaker 1: they were blindsided by this. They knew, they knew that

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Speaker 1: Terry Rozier was under suspicion. They the sports books had

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Speaker 1: told them this, and yet he was allowed uh to

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Speaker 1: continue to play. And and and I obviously I think

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Speaker 1: the conclusion you arrived to from that is that the

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Speaker 1: NBA probably did not want to have to explain to

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Speaker 1: everybody why Terry Rogier was being banned from basketball. Had

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Speaker 1: they gone ahead and banned him, and they would have

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00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: had to divulge, you know, a lot more information about

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Speaker 1: this gambling ring that probably would have brought a lot

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Speaker 1: more eyeballs to the sport, and they didn't want to

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Speaker 1: do that. And now, of course, you know, all they

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00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: did was kick the can down the road, because there's

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Speaker 1: an awful lot of eyeballs looking at him right now.

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Speaker 4: So, Dylan, two things here, two questions. Why do you

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Speaker 4: think they were so hesitant to do this to Terry

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Speaker 4: Rogier when there was a player for the Toronto Raptors.

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Speaker 4: I believe it was last season that got caught and

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00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 4: they brought the hammer down on him. And then also

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00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 4: you've got the Chauncey Billups situation, which I believe is

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Speaker 4: different than the on court activity. We think Chauncey may

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Speaker 4: have been in bed with the mafia in these crooked

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Speaker 4: poker games. Is this under one big investigation or are

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Speaker 4: these separate investigations.

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Speaker 1: They are separate but related is the word that the

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Speaker 1: indictment uses. Okay, so they're not entirely like, but there

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Speaker 1: is reasonable suspicion that some of the people holding the

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Speaker 1: strings or pulling the strings on the sports ringing aspect

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Speaker 1: of this thing were also some of the same people

873
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: pulling the strings on the illegal gambling aspect of it

874
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 1: as well. So separate but related is the official term

875
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: in the indicatment. I'll answer your second question first. The

876
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,439
Speaker 1: Chauncey Billups thing is different. He was the head coach

877
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: of the Portland Trail Blazers. He was arrested on Thursday.

878
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody Indiana remembers in with the Pistons with

879
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: the National Championship. There famous NBA player. He was a

880
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 1: part of an illegal poker card ring in which X

881
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: ray tables were used in computer ai AI controlled card

882
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: shuffling machines were used to rig things for the house

883
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 1: and basically Chauncey Billups's job was to show up at

884
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 1: these games. And this is how you get high rollers

885
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: to come to your poker game. You have an NBA

886
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: guy there, you have an NFL guy there, you have

887
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: a celebrity of some types. You get these people with

888
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: money to show up to these games. But allegedly Chauncey

889
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 1: Billups is in on this as well, at least that's

890
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: what the government is claiming. And you know, he wins

891
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: when they tell him to win, he loses when they

892
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 1: tell him to lose. But the entire game is rigged

893
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: to fleece these people who are coming to play the game.

894
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: And Chauncey Billups was arrested for being a party to that. Now,

895
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: he did this morning at a statement through his lawyer,

896
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: deny everything. He's denying that he's a part of a

897
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: gambling ring. He said he wouldn't risk his reputation, his

898
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: well hard won reputation as an NBA champion and Hall

899
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: of Famer, as a you know, on something like a

900
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: card game. But presumably the FBI did not do this

901
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: on a whim, right, Presumably there's a lot of evidence

902
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: to the contrary, and of course this will all play

903
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 1: out through the legal system. That John tay Porter says

904
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: There's a very big difference here that I find incredibly intriguing.

905
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: In the John Tay Porters situation that you mentioned in

906
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: the former Toronto Raptors player and what's going on with

907
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: Terry Rogier. John K. Porter got in gambling trouble and

908
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: they told him, hey, if you want to, you know

909
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: you can't afford to pay yourself out of your debts,

910
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna work for us, and you're gonna work for

911
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,479
Speaker 1: us with fixing games. And that's basically how Johntay Porter

912
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: got in trouble Terry Rogier. The report, the indictment says

913
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: that he wasn't in any significant gambling debt, that he

914
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: was just doing this for cat.

915
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 4: I mean, like, this was just and he's been in

916
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 4: the league for a long time, Dylan, He's got like

917
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 4: almost a decade's worth of work and he's made quite

918
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 4: a bit of money.

919
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: He's made six times as much as an NBA player

920
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: as he's made as a game fixer. So I mean,

921
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: this was he had. This gets completely ridiculous. It's completely

922
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: was It was just pure It appears, allegedly reportedly to

923
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: be a case of just pure, unadulterated greed. I mean,

924
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how else to say it,

925
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: because he wasn't trying to get himself out of trouble

926
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: with the mob He wasn't doing because Mobster has said,

927
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna do it to pay off your debts, like

928
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: what appears to be the case and the John tay

929
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: Porter situation. So it's fascinating. And for that matter, Chauncey

930
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: Phillips has made a ton of money in the league too,

931
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: Guys that he's a head coach of the NBA. You know,

932
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: there's been no mention of any outstanding gambling debts with

933
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: him either. So the motivations of these people I find

934
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: to be almost as interesting as the as the case itself.

935
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,479
Speaker 1: In one of the motivations or one of the people

936
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: involved in the case that we haven't touched on yet

937
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: Damon Jones a former NBA player, former teammate of Lebron James,

938
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: who is very close with Lebron James, and here's what

939
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: he did. In February of twenty twenty three, Lebron was

940
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: gonna miss a game against the Milwaukee Bucks, Damon Jones

941
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: allegedly calls his his you know, the members of his

942
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: betting ring and tells them to bet heavy on the

943
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: Bucks that night because Lebron is not going to play.

944
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: The information had not been shared publicly yet, so this

945
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: is info that Damon Jones got from being inside the

946
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: Lakers organization. It was actually called an unofficial assistant coach

947
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 1: at the time.

948
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 4: So this is like insider trading kind of This really

949
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 4: is kind of like the stuff that Martha Stewart went

950
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 4: to the joint for.

951
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi should be going to jail.

952
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: For right what one hundred percent? It's all insider information.

953
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: The information was not out there wasn't public. So he

954
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: goes out there and tells his friends to get big

955
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 1: on the Bucks. The Lakers lose the game, his friends

956
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: get rich, and but this is this is one of

957
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 1: the problems you have that is unique to the NBA

958
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: and different to it from a lot of these other sports.

959
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: There are there's a huge entourage factor with the NBA

960
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: that you don't really encounter in the NFL and you

961
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: don't encounter in Major League Baseball. And Damon Jones was

962
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: part of Lebron's entourage. Now, Lebron is not under investigation

963
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: and he's not accused of of of any wrongdoing, in

964
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: this case whatsoever. But this is one of the problems

965
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: these stars have in the league. When you bring people

966
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: into the locker room, into the organization, they become privy

967
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: to access to information that they otherwise would not have,

968
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: and some of them don't have the best motivations as is,

969
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: as is the case with Jamon Jones, and they end

970
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: up getting involved in illegal gambling. And now that's how

971
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: Lebron James's name has been dragged into this whole mess.

972
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 3: Dylan Gwen is the brett bart News sports editor.

973
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 4: Dylan, we could probably do a full show on all

974
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 4: the different angles of this. But where can we get

975
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 4: the latest information and coverage.

976
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: Well, definitely head over to bred barton dot com. There's

977
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: a tab on the left side of the screen there,

978
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: click it down for sports bry bart dot com Sports

979
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: and you can. We we have several stories up on

980
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: this right now. We are going to be all over

981
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: it for as long as it is a story, and

982
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be for for quite a long time.

983
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 3: Hey, great stuff, man, We appreciate you, and we'll talk

984
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 3: again soon.

985
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: Looking forward to it, guys, Thanks so much.

986
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 3: All right, it is that time to throw one back

987
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 3: beer sample Friday. Next you set him up and I'll

988
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: knock him back.

989
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: Lloyd one beware.

990
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 3: Booze news, booz booziness. B brond you by tops and

991
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 3: Furniture and mattress in Columbus. My name is Nigel. Jason

992
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 3: Hammond right over there. Got another hour of The Hammer

993
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 3: Nigel Show to go. But I feel like I feel

994
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 3: like we're on borrow time with you. You're out of

995
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 3: here next week. I know we've talked about it, but

996
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 3: I'm so jealous. I am so jealous of you. You

997
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: just got back from the Grand Tetons and now you're

998
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 3: going to Florida, Florida man, bastard. I will be Florida man.

999
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 3: Hopefully I'll run in the sheriff Grady Judge at some point.

1000
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 3: Can we get an in. We had the interview scheduled

1001
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 3: with Polk County Sheriff Brady Judd, the best, one of

1002
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 3: the best sheriffs in America. It fell through. He's rescheduled.

1003
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 3: He'll be sometime. Okay, great. Here is what I chose.

1004
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 3: First of all, I chose this because of the color

1005
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 3: Halloween orange. It's a giant jar of bullet, old fashioned cocktail.

1006
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 3: Now bullet is like a Bullet's a bourbon whiskey distillery

1007
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 3: out of Kentucky. I mean I think Shelbyville, Kentucky around

1008
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 3: what they drink on yellow stuff, And so this is yeah, exactly.

1009
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 3: And so this is one of those quote unquote cocktails

1010
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 3: in a can, although this is in pretty much a

1011
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 3: giant jar. Yes, and so it's your best enjoyed straight

1012
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 3: up over ice. How about your bend over and I'll

1013
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 3: stick it straight up. It's a great weird science reference.

1014
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 3: But this is an old fashioned cocktail in old fashioned

1015
00:59:56,560 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 3: made with Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey and orange bitters from Bullet.

1016
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 3: These are very popular and orange is the keyword here.

1017
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 3: We're being topical with the Halloween season ary. Is that

1018
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 3: a word? Cheers to you. I've never had this before.

1019
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 3: I've handled fashions before, but not made straight out of

1020
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 3: the can or jar whatever this is. Oh, that's good.

1021
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 3: Let's got a little kick to it. That's got a

1022
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:28,919
Speaker 3: little punch to it. Okay, that's definitely my man.

1023
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 4: The weekend is officially underway here in Indy with that mob.

1024
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 3: That is good. Holy crap, fill it up again? All right,

1025
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 3: I could do that for you. We got another hour

1026
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 3: to go. The weekend is underway here in Indy. Let's

1027
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 3: keep it rolling. We're the Hammer and Nigel Show.