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Speaker 1: And Grand Rising family, and welcome to Wednesday, a hump

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Speaker 1: day usually but a getaway day for some later futuristic

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Speaker 1: researcher brother Sideki Bakari will report to our classroom. Brother

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Speaker 1: Sudeiki is an AI artificial intelligence specialist. This morning is

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Speaker 1: going to go real deep with us. It's going to

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Speaker 1: talk about the complexities of motherboard technology, highlighting the critical

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Speaker 1: issues of on healed memory and metadata. Before brother Sudeiki,

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Speaker 1: DC activist doctor Kakai Patterson will check in, but momentarily

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Speaker 1: Detroit historian Michael Imotep will join us. But first let's

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Speaker 1: get Kevin Rodman the classroom doors for us on this

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Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, Grand Rising, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Carol Nelson, Grand Rising and Grand Rising Indeed, Brother,

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Speaker 2: and it's kind of like one sip of coffee. I'm

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Speaker 2: only running on one sip right right now, so pardon

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Speaker 2: me as I make this brief.

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Speaker 3: Okay, how you feeling, girl Nelson?

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Speaker 1: I'm still learning, Brother, I know I'm going up between

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Speaker 1: I guess the morning Mike Lamo tap coming up which

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Speaker 1: always comes with a lot of faction figures. And then

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Speaker 1: also the doctor Kakai and also brother Saidki is going

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Speaker 1: to take us real deep. So yeah, I'm still I'm

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Speaker 1: going to learn a lot this morning.

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Speaker 3: It's the compound effect. You know.

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Speaker 2: You learn this and add that to it, and as

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Speaker 2: long as it's all relevant, you know, you come out

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Speaker 2: super educated.

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Speaker 3: Man, you want to.

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Speaker 1: But the key is if you learn something new, adopt

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Speaker 1: old stuff just because it's old. And you know Grandma

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Speaker 3: Or at least be able to quote it at least

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Speaker 2: And during the day once you once you've learned it,

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Speaker 3: As we are learning now that Washington d C.

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Speaker 2: May Or Murriam bows announced yesterday she won't I said,

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Speaker 2: won't seek reelection next year, teeing up a high stakes

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Speaker 2: race to lead the nation's capital during the remainder of

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Speaker 2: President Trump's urn. She says, it has been the honor

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Speaker 2: of my life to be your mayor, but today, with

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Speaker 2: a grateful heart, I'm announcing that I will not seek

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Speaker 2: a fourth term, she said in a video on X

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Speaker 2: on the X platform. The fifty three year old Bowser,

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Speaker 2: who has served as mayor since twenty fifteen, said in

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Speaker 2: her video a number of accomplishments during her tenure, such

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Speaker 2: as a deal to build a new football stadium in

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Speaker 2: the city. So she's that's under her belt as her honor.

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Speaker 2: And she also steered the city through the tumultuous chapters

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Speaker 2: in the recent history, including the protests sparked by the

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Speaker 2: The city council. Yeah, yeah, come up. Yeah, So she's

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Speaker 2: not going to run again. And what are your thoughts

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Speaker 1: Car interesting because you know, she was getting hammered by

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Speaker 1: some sections in Washington about her relationship with Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: and some people thought she caved in and gave too

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Speaker 1: much of Donald Trump. Well, let's see, now she has

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Speaker 1: nothing to do. You know, she's lame duck, if you will.

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Speaker 1: So let's see if she goes for it with Gusta.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's see if that changes. Kevin, and that changed

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Speaker 1: because some of the folks were really there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of talk, uh, not just on the internet, but in

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Speaker 1: enough going after Donald Trump and capitulating to everything that

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Speaker 1: was her core, right right, Yeah, yeah, she did.

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Speaker 2: So you're saying she's an now she's basically saying take

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Speaker 1: And she can tell them that and well she Let's

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Speaker 1: see if she how strong she goes defies Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: But you know they're trying to replace the attorney journal

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Her potential successors are Kenyon McDuffie, a city council member,

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Speaker 2: election will determine who's going to take a place, and

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Speaker 2: the candidates will of course represent different perspectives.

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Speaker 3: On key city issues.

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Speaker 2: But congratulations to DC Mayor Muriel Bouncer.

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Speaker 3: I think she did a great job.

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Speaker 1: What the key to watch though, to Kevin on this

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Speaker 1: so don't rule that out as well.

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Speaker 3: Right on, right on, right on.

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Speaker 2: Look, it's November twenty sixth, the pre holiday Wednesday, so

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Speaker 2: you know, thanks for your time, Carl, I'm gonna turn

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Speaker 2: Well, thank god. Yeah, here's your guests. I'll give you

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Speaker 1: Right, I guess family from Detroit historian Michael amotep Grand Rising. Michael,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the program.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Carl and Kevin, how your brother, How your brother's

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Speaker 4: doing today?

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Speaker 3: Blessed and how they favored Thank you still learn that's good.

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Speaker 1: We're looking for you for some some education this morning.

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Speaker 1: Michael about Thanksgiving, you're saying it should be mistaken or

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Speaker 4: You know, some people used to term Misgiving Day, and

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Speaker 4: doctor Shaka Musa Bear Shango that wrote the book The

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Speaker 4: been taught to call Thanksgiving and what became a federal

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Speaker 4: And what's interesting, brother Carl, is that we've talked. We've

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Speaker 4: I've studied all the European holidays we've been taught to celebrate.

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Speaker 4: You know, Thanksgiving Day is a federal holiday in the US,

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Speaker 4: the mythology that has printed, that has been presented, that

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Speaker 4: Just just just a few things and then you know,

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Speaker 4: because just as Native American activists have demanded the removal

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Speaker 4: though they didn't call it Thanksgiving, then this also involves

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Speaker 4: And when you start digging into of this history, brother

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Speaker 4: Carl and Brother Kevin, you start understanding the devastation that

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Speaker 4: his people's welcoming and befriending of the Pilgrims in sixteen

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Speaker 4: hundred and two passengers. And then what was the other

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Speaker 4: What was your other question, Kevin?

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Speaker 2: I was I was talking about the was it? Well,

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Speaker 2: you covered the thing about Santos, but I was also

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Speaker 2: asking about that disease.

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Speaker 3: I think you covered most of it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, from.

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Speaker 3: Jams.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Frank Jay. Let me go directly to an excerpt

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Speaker 4: of his speech that he was going to give for

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Speaker 4: that three hundred and fiftieth anniversary. He said, quote were

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Speaker 4: the wappingknock, welcomed, welcome to you, the white man with

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Speaker 4: open arms, little knowing that it was the beginning of

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Speaker 4: the end, that before fifty years were to pass, the

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Speaker 4: wappingoff would no longer be a free people. Okay, so

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Speaker 4: when you like now this is this is not going

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Speaker 4: to be what I'm talking about now, you probably won't

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Speaker 4: stee on MS now used to be MSNBC. You probably

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Speaker 4: won't see it on stand end. They may have one

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Speaker 4: thirty minute special one fifteen minute segment. But most of

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Speaker 4: this when people watching the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade, right,

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Speaker 4: this is not going to be talked about. So we

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Speaker 4: have to go beyond the so is, like, really study,

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Speaker 4: study the history behind what's being presented to us. But

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Speaker 4: once again, I'm all for families getting together on you know,

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Speaker 4: Thanksgiving Day, and you know we want to have dinner

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Speaker 4: or whatever you do. I don't watch football. I haven't

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Speaker 4: watched the NFL game since kind of Kappernick was banned

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Speaker 4: from the league, So I don't watch football. But we

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Speaker 4: have to understand this game is being played on us

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Speaker 4: and really study the history behind all of this.

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Speaker 1: And thank you for sharing that twenty five away from

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Speaker 1: the top of our family, just checking in. I guess

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Speaker 1: is Michael m o TAP's historian. And as I mentioned,

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Speaker 1: your provacy in my on TV works closely with Roland

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Speaker 1: Martin and this morning it's given us a history of

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Speaker 1: how this holiday that some of you are going to

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Speaker 1: celebrate tomorrow will be here tomorrow, how it all started.

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Speaker 1: And we're trying to figure out the perspectives now that

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Speaker 1: we know this information, what do we do with it?

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Speaker 1: Because I know most people Michael. You know, it's a

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Speaker 1: day for family. It's not really They don't really get

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Speaker 1: into the Pilgrims and what happened to the Native Americans,

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Speaker 1: and the Native Americans obviously are not going to celebrate.

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Speaker 1: But for most folks, other folks, I don't think people

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Speaker 1: even care what happened. It's just a day that they can,

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Speaker 1: you know, be with their family and for the last for

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Speaker 1: one day, they forget all the grievances, all who's not

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Speaker 1: speaking to who, and who's not all of this, and

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Speaker 1: they forget the politics and let's eat and chow down

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Speaker 1: and have a good time. But how do you get

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Speaker 1: this information though, which you just taught us, because obviously

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Speaker 1: they're not teaching this in our schools. We didn't hear

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Speaker 1: this in our schools. We heard a different story when

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Speaker 1: we went to school, and we you know, we were

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Speaker 1: mad at the Native Americans. You know, look what they

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Speaker 1: did to these poor white folks who came to help me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So how do we flip that.

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Speaker 4: It's like the Battle of the Alamo, and the settlers

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Speaker 4: of the Alamo in Texas were trying to preserve slavery.

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Speaker 4: That's why the Mexicans were fighting them because because slavery

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Speaker 4: have been abolance in Mexico in eighteen twenty nine by

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Speaker 4: Pacenta Guerrero who was the second president of Mexican so

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Speaker 4: and he was a former slave, and he was Afro Latino,

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Speaker 4: he was partly of African descent. It's the whole game

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Speaker 4: that's being ran on people. But you got a dumb

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Speaker 4: down on people to be able to lie to them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but if they know the truth, you think it

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Speaker 1: will make a difference and then they're just okay. So

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Speaker 1: do you think that's the reaction with that if they

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Speaker 1: heard what you were just taught this morning.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, See, your thoughts create feelings, Your feelings

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Speaker 4: create actions and behaviors. Your actions and behaviors create results.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it's definitely important to know the truth to

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Speaker 4: understand history. What you do for yourself, what you do

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Speaker 4: to yourself, and what you allow other people to do

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Speaker 4: to you and get away with, is based upon what

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Speaker 4: you think about yourself. What you think about yourself is

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Speaker 4: based upon what you've been taught about yourself. What you've

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Speaker 4: been taught about yourself is based upon everything you've heard

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Speaker 4: and seen about yourself. So when you when you start

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Speaker 4: studying this history, then you start seeing how all all

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Speaker 4: of this came to be and why it came to be.

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Speaker 4: And you're, like I said, your understanding of history is

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Speaker 4: that directly related to your understanding of politics? You know?

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Speaker 4: So you have an old the thought right there.

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Speaker 1: Because we're gonta caught up with the news, I'll let

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Speaker 1: you connect the thoughts. Continue to at the dots when

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Speaker 1: we get back and Bob and Buffalo has a question

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Speaker 1: for your family. YouTube can join us at twenty two

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Speaker 1: minutes away from the top day. Our guest is historian

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Speaker 1: Michael m o Tip. Tell us about tomorrow some of

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Speaker 1: you're gonna celebrate that day, what really really really means?

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Speaker 1: You want to get in on this discussion, reach out

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Speaker 1: to us at eight hundred and four or five zero

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Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls

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Speaker 1: after the news. That's next and Grand Rising family, thanks

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Speaker 1: for waking up with us on this Wednesday morning. It's

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Speaker 1: usually a hunt day for somebody. It's a getaway day

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Speaker 1: you know, take us with us. Just download the podcast

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Speaker 1: on your phone and take us with some great conversation

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Speaker 1: said for this morning. Right now, we're speaking with historian

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Speaker 1: Michael m. O.

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Speaker 4: Tip.

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Speaker 1: He's giving us the history of the background of how Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: the day that some of you are going to celebrate tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: how it all started. And later this morning we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be joined by a futuristic reacher researcher, brother Sidiki Bakari,

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Speaker 1: and also a doctor Kokaia Patterson is gonna be the

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Speaker 1: jon us as well. He's going to talk about men GM,

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Speaker 1: how I'm in so I'm formerly known as ah Trap Brown.

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Speaker 1: We're going to have that discussion and tomorrow we're going

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Speaker 1: to be here tomorrow and talented researcher brother Katya Wata

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Speaker 1: will be here along with natropathic doctor and restaurant tour

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Speaker 1: doctor Baruk. So if you are in Baltimore, make sure

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Speaker 1: you keep your ready or locked in tight on ten

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Speaker 1: ten WLB or if you're in the DMV or on

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Speaker 1: fourteen fifty WOL. All right, Michael, i' mtu you and

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Speaker 1: I guess some more folks want to talk to you,

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Speaker 1: but let me just let you finish and thank you

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Speaker 1: for connecting the Dawson. By the way, one of our

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Speaker 1: tweeters said, you know because ask Michael the question you

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Speaker 1: think of white folks heard this information, because many of

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Speaker 1: you are hearing for the first time, what would they

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Speaker 1: would they change their minds about Native Americans about the

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Speaker 1: holiday when our tweeter says no, they'll just use the

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Speaker 1: normal excuse, we didn't have anything to do with it.

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Speaker 1: That's what they said about slavery. So I thank a

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Speaker 1: person who said that tweet. But Michael, I'll let you

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Speaker 1: finish your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's important for the truth to get out

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Speaker 4: because you see a increasing popularity before this year, before

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Speaker 4: Trump got back in office, you see an increasing popularity

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Speaker 4: of Indigenous People's Day as an alternative to Columbus State.

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Speaker 4: So it's important for the truth to be pushed, whether

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Speaker 4: it's dealing with the history slavery, whether it's dealing with

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Speaker 4: the history what happened to African Americans in this country.

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Speaker 4: You know, we have to understand that Americans have been

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Speaker 4: purposely dumbed down, Okay, And this is how seventy seven

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Speaker 4: million people could vote for the same guy who screwed

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Speaker 4: up the economy the first time, and they thought that

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Speaker 4: it was going to be better the second time. But

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Speaker 4: usually the sequel of the horror movie is worse than

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Speaker 4: the first installment. Another article that I want people to

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Speaker 4: read is called what really Happened at the First Thanksgiving

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Speaker 4: The Wampa'nox side of the tale? And this came out

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Speaker 4: This is from Indian Country. Was it ictnews dot org

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Speaker 4: Indian Country Today organ and I first saw this article

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Speaker 4: back in twenty seventeen, so from November twenty third, twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 4: And it tells the side of the story of that

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Speaker 4: sixteen twenty one celebration that the English settlers had that

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Speaker 4: are called Pilgrims. And then we all see that famous painting,

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Speaker 4: a painting by John Leon Gerome Ferris of the pilgrim

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Speaker 4: woman feeding the Native Americans that's sitting down, things like that.

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Speaker 4: The background story to that is that the Wampadog Native

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Speaker 4: Americans were not even invited to that feast. What happened

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Speaker 4: was prior to that, they entered into an agreement with

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Speaker 4: the settlers. Basically, you watch my back, I'll watch yours.

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Speaker 4: Because the Wampa Knock they had a conflict with a

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Speaker 4: neighboring group of Native Americans, and the settlers were having

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Speaker 4: a celebration to celebrate surviving that first winter. So they

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Speaker 4: were shooting off guns. Well, the wapaknog hear this, and

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Speaker 4: the Wapaknong leader massasoic He shows up with ninety of

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Speaker 4: his warriors to see what's going on. They think a

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Speaker 4: war's taking place. When they get there, it's explained to

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Speaker 4: them what's happening, what's taking place, and they're you know,

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Speaker 4: they're asked to stay and eat. But they weren't invited

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Speaker 4: in the first place. So when you see that snapshot

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Speaker 4: and we see this that picture, that painting in books

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Speaker 4: and things like this, the history behind what that represents

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Speaker 4: is totally different than how it's presented to us. But

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Speaker 4: it's important to understand history from the other perspective, the

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Speaker 4: perspective of those who were persecuted or those on the

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Speaker 4: losing end. This is why when we talk about the

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Speaker 4: history of slavery, it has to be taught from the

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Speaker 4: perspective of enslaved African people. Now from the colonizers' perspective.

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Speaker 4: We have to understand the colonizers' perspective, but we have

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Speaker 4: to teach it from the perspect of the enslaved African people.

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Speaker 1: All right, hold on the right, then eight five zero

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Speaker 1: seventy eight to seventy six. I mentioned Bob and Buffalo

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Speaker 1: has a question for as online too, Grand Rise and

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Speaker 1: Bobby on with Michael m otep.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, sir, blessed love family. I give thanks for the

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Speaker 7: lesson that I have been blessed to hear today. And

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Speaker 7: I wonder if if the truth is really what's what's

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Speaker 7: what needs to be celebrated. So I thank you very much.

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Speaker 7: I think doctor Small says that knowing history erases the mystery.

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Speaker 7: My question is, can we can we turn around this

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Speaker 7: whole thing quickly and easily by rather than calling a thanksgiving,

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Speaker 7: that we actually celebrate giving thanks and we give thanks

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Speaker 7: for learning and knowing the truth as we have made

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Speaker 7: it through this much of the year, headed toward the

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Speaker 7: whole Christmas holiday season, and headed into Kwanza and headed

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Speaker 7: into the beginning.

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Speaker 5: Of a new year.

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Speaker 7: And we turn it around just very quickly by instead

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Speaker 7: of how celebrating Thanksgiving, that we celebrate the giving of

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Speaker 7: thanks and the living and a thankful, truthfuloid.

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Speaker 4: Right, So when you say turning around, you mean change

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Speaker 4: the arrangement of the letters and the word thanksgiving to

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Speaker 4: giving thanks. Is that what you mean when we say

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Speaker 4: turning it around?

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Speaker 7: Turn it around rather than celebrating the lie.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah. Like I said before, you know,

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Speaker 4: we can get together with family and things like that,

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Speaker 4: but we have to understand the real history, teach the

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Speaker 4: real history behind it. And I appreciate the lessons you

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Speaker 4: talked today, brother, Yeah, no problem, no problem. Yeah. We

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Speaker 4: have to teach the real history behind it and push

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Speaker 4: that out into the national media.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 4: It's the same thing with June teenth. It's the same

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Speaker 4: thing with Juneteenth history. A lot of what we've been

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Speaker 4: talking about June tenth is false, okay, But it's important

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Speaker 4: for to commemorate June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five, when Major

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Speaker 4: General Warden Granger delivered General Order number three and he

650
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 4: has about two thousand Union troops, with the most of

651
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Speaker 4: them African American men. But June tenth was not the

652
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Speaker 4: last day of slavery because Delaware, Kentucky then the bottle

653
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Speaker 4: of slavery till December eighteenth, eighteen sixty five, when the

654
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Speaker 4: thirteenth Amendment was adopted. Okay, that's six months after jone teenth.

655
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Speaker 4: And even though June nineteenth, eighteen sixty five did happen,

656
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 4: the Civil War didn't end. April ninethe eighteen sixty five,

657
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 4: when General Robert E. Leeves arendered to Ulysses as grant.

658
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 4: It continues for about another sixteen months and doesn't come

659
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Speaker 4: to a final end till August of eighteen sixty six.

660
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Speaker 4: In fact, there was a battle in the Palmetto Ranch

661
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Speaker 4: Battle in Texas right outside of Brownsville in May twelfth,

662
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Speaker 4: eighteen sixty five, the month after General Robert E. Lee surrenders. Right. So,

663
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Speaker 4: even though a lot of what we've been talking about

664
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Speaker 4: Juneteenth is incorrect, Juneteenth gives us an opportunity to one

665
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Speaker 4: force into the national conversation a history that state legislations

666
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 4: have passed laws to suppresed the teaching of the history,

667
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Speaker 4: and we see coming from the federal government from the

668
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Speaker 4: Trump administration, an attempt to suppress the teaching of that

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Speaker 4: history as well as sanitize the African Americans Smith Smithsonian

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Speaker 4: Museum number two. We have to correct the history of

671
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Speaker 4: Juneteenth and protect the history of June team Okay, So

672
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 4: we have to use these holidays as opportunities to force

673
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Speaker 4: a conversation about the truth and push forth the evidence

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Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 1: Got you eight away from the Top. Charles is in

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00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: Baltimore has a question for you down line three Grand

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Speaker 1: Rising Charles, your question for Michael Motap, Yes.

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Speaker 4: Sir, how doing Michael? Yeah, I mean hearing a lot

679
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 4: of yeah, I'm here, a lot.

680
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 6: Of mixed messages. So, as an American Indian, a copper

681
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 6: colored man, I have to say, you know, I'm not black,

682
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 6: I'm not African American, I'm not Negro or Native American.

683
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 6: And I want to set the record straight. An American Indian,

684
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 6: that's the only indigenous people of America. Native Americans. They're

685
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 6: not the same people because native means born here.

686
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 4: So a Native.

687
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 6: American is a foreigner born here. So when the colonists

688
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 6: were born here, they became Native Americans. That's not the

689
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 6: same as an American Indian. So I'm asking you, what

690
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 6: is your definition of a Native American? And what is

691
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 6: your definition of an American Indian? And what is your

692
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 6: definition of an African American.

693
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Speaker 8: Well, let me ask you a question. You said what

694
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 8: you said you are indigenous? Is that what you say, Yeah,

695
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 8: I'm an American, I'm indigenous Greech.

696
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 4: Which which nation do you belong to?

697
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 6: Well, when people tell you that they're African American and

698
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 6: they were told that from ancestry. What nation are they from?

699
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 4: American? From Africa? American? Let me ask you a question.

700
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 4: You just asked me a questions. African American is an

701
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,399
Speaker 4: ethnic group. It's not a nationality. No one ever said

702
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 4: African American is a nationality. It's an ethnic group. I'm familiar.

703
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 4: I'm familiar with the history imagination you know. No, no,

704
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 4: you didn't continue. Let me continue. I'm familiar. I'm familiar

705
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 4: with the history. If you read the First Americans with Africans,

706
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 4: documented evidence by doctor David M. Hotel that talks about

707
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 4: the koy San that we're here in this land going

708
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 4: Mexican one thousand years ago. I don't believe that. If you,

709
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 4: my brother is you're dealing with beliefs. I'm dealing with faction. No,

710
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 4: I'm dealing with facts. The way the family familiar with

711
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 4: over talk to each other. We're not gonna over talk

712
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 4: to each other. Ask me a question. I'm very familiar

713
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 4: with all the history. I'm very familiar with various ways.

714
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 4: If you want to call them indigenous groups, native American groups,

715
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 4: but African people were here before any of these indigenous groups,

716
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 4: before the Wapping Dog, before any of them they were

717
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 4: here going back at least fifty one, seven hundred years ago. Now, one,

718
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 4: I don't try to take away from one group to

719
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 4: empower another group. And what I mean by that is,

720
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Speaker 4: I don't have to discount the history of any of

721
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Speaker 4: the groups that were here before Europeans got here. Tim

722
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 4: power myself. I understand all that. I understand all that history.

723
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Speaker 4: I also understand nationality. I also know I also know

724
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 4: Washington Moores. I've been to their classes. I understand all

725
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 4: of that. Okay, Now to address your question with specificity

726
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 4: when you talk about African American. First of all, the

727
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 4: term African American dates back to seventeen eighty two in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

728
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 4: It was never designed to be a nationality. It's an

729
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 4: ethnic group. And I agree with Malcolm X in his

730
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 4: in his speech The Battles of the bullet A for

731
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Speaker 4: Third nineteen sixty four, when he talked to when he

732
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 4: referred to us as African Americans, my teacher, Professor James Small, Well,

733
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Speaker 4: just then you just have for just Professor James small

734
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Speaker 4: on yesterday, Carl, No, it was last week, last week, okay,

735
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 4: Professor James Small. Professor James Smaller says, African is my race.

736
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 4: America is my geopolitical place. I'm not giving that up

737
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 4: for anybody. But he'll also tell you African American is

738
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 4: not an ethnicity. It's not a nationality. But nobody said

739
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 4: it was, so people try to make an argument where

740
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 4: there is no argument. I study all that history. Okay,

741
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 4: all right, next.

742
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: Caller, thank you for schooling. Then you know we're right

743
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: up against the clock because I know you have to run.

744
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: But before I'll let you go, Michael, are you going

745
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: to be on rolling show pretty soon? Can you tell

746
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: us about that again?

747
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 4: Because we're not having a show this Friday day after Thanksgiving,

748
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 4: so there's no show I was on last Friday. Follow

749
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 4: me on my Facebook fan page the African History Network.

750
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 4: The African History Network got one million followers there. Follow

751
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 4: me on YouTube Michael M. Hotel I M H O

752
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 4: T E P ninety three thousand subscribers. I should have

753
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 4: a million followers there too. Visit my website Africanhistorynetwork dot

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Speaker 4: com Africanhistorynetwork dot com, and also you can register for

755
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 4: my new online history class Ancient African Empires, the Moors

756
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 4: and Understanding the Transatlantic Slave Trade. Where they didn't teach

757
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 4: you in school. It's a ten week online course. We're

758
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 4: going to have an introduction to it this Sunday, November thirtieth,

759
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 4: four pm Eastern Standard time, and so visit my website

760
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 4: Africanhistorynetwork dot com and you could register for that and

761
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Speaker 4: you get five free digital download lectures on myself when

762
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Speaker 4: you register for that class.

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Speaker 1: Also, all right, thanks Michael A run and people say

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00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: they appreciate the knowledge. I just said, you know someone

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00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: to call one and Mitch, I'll just mention that family,

766
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: we got to get out of here. We got to

767
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: get the trafficking weather. Oh yeah, we will bring you

768
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: back two minutes away from the top there. When we

769
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: come back, we're going to talk about all the men

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00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 1: also known as h Rap Brown and we take calls

771
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: after the trafficking weather. That's next and Grand Rising family,

772
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: thanks for staying with us on this Wednesday morning. It's

773
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: a hump day for some, but it's also a getaway

774
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: for others. If you're going out of town and you know,

775
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: download one of the aps for one of our stations

776
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: and take us with you for the ride and you

777
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: can stay with us all weekend and long. I got

778
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: some great information coming to you. Momentary We're going to

779
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: talk about imm and Jamil Abdullah our men, some of

780
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: you know, I'm h Rap Brown and doctor go Patterson

781
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: is going to lead a panel discussion on that and

782
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: doctor Patterson, Grand rising and welcome to the program.

783
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 4: Thanks you and the w Wealth family.

784
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 1: Well, we have a panel before we actually to introduce

785
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Speaker 1: the panel, Doctor Patterson, tell us about what your thoughts.

786
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Speaker 1: Your thoughts about the person formerly known as h Van Brown.

787
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

788
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 9: I appreciate that opportunity just to speak on such a

789
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 9: great giant is an honor.

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00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 4: It's a privilege to just speak about this brother.

791
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 9: Who is more than just a giant in our community

792
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 9: in terms of his commitment. So what I love the

793
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 9: most about his life is his commitment. And when you

794
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 9: think about people who revolutionaries, people who are you know,

795
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 9: totally committed, you know, to the community, you think about

796
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 9: a person like Jamie Alamie. He is a brother who

797
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 9: has given his entire life and has spent every minute

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00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 9: of his life, you know, working on changing the conditions

799
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Speaker 9: in our community. So for me, uh, he is an

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00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 9: example that I should follow. You know, the books that

801
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 9: he wrote, Die Niggade and you know revolution by the book. Uh,

802
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 9: you know which is you know, a great compilation you know,

803
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 9: of his thoughts and putting those principles of revolutionary activities

804
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 9: and thoughts and work together in that book, Revolution by

805
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 9: the book. If you haven't got it, y'all, please get it.

806
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 9: But yeah, commitment is what you know, jumps out to

807
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 9: me called and it was he was.

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00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,760
Speaker 1: A part of too that the government you know, pointed

809
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: out in the co Intel program. Here's one of the

810
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: voices they wanted to silence. Do you see that the

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Speaker 1: result of if there's legal problems, what happened to him

812
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: in Georgia? Do you think that was all concocted to

813
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: silence his voice?

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00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 9: Oh, no doubt. You know, just in GP, the people

815
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 9: who on the line. We'll really get into that, but

816
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 9: let me just you know, talk about a couple of points.

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Speaker 5: One.

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Speaker 9: H you know, there's you know, questions raised about key evidence.

819
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 9: You know, for example, the blood samples were lost or

820
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 9: destroyed and can't nobody figure out you know, what those

821
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 9: things are and where they are, you know, et cetera.

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00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 9: You know, there was a lack of forensic evidence, you know,

824
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Speaker 9: no fingerprints. Uh, you know, law enforcement found blood on

825
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 9: the scene, and now we can't even find that blood.

826
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Speaker 9: It's contradictions as relates to the eyewitness. You know, here

827
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Speaker 9: you have eyewitness and somebody was five with eight and

828
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 9: you know our big brother was six foot five, you know,

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Speaker 9: so you can't you know, mistake on that.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 9: So it's a bunch of things that just jump out

832
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 9: at you that let you know this just was a

833
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 9: hoax and that he was railroaded like so many other

834
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Speaker 9: men and women you know, from our community, who who

835
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 9: was so in love with their people that they risked

836
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Speaker 9: everything to attempt to bring about those changes.

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Speaker 1: All right, why don't you induce some members of the panel.

838
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Speaker 1: Let's get let's get it started this morning.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 9: Let me, you know, give a shout out to all

841
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 9: of my camp comrades who have joined us. Thank you

842
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 9: all so much, Brother Jamil, brother Jalil, sister Shakiah, you

843
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 9: know whomever else if there's other folks on, but thank

844
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 9: you all so much for you all's work in this process.

845
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Speaker 9: I like to start, you know, with my big brother

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Speaker 9: Jamil muster Kin, because it's important to recognize the history

847
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 9: when we talk about his work with the Black Panther

848
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Speaker 9: Party before the Black Panther Party, but being able to

849
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 9: look at that and connect that with the work that

850
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 9: he did, you know, in Atlanta, Georgia, in that community

851
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 9: and turning the whole community around. So I greet my

852
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 9: brother Jamil mustera Keene who himself was a political prisoner

853
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 9: and spent decades UH in jail, you know, panther, you know,

854
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 9: et cetera. Uh to talk a little bit about that.

855
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 9: So I don't like them Jamil Jimmielil.

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00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: His brother Jamil with us. I don't think he's here with.

857
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 9: Us, Okay, jamilal is not on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we want some can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: You are Oh I mean, I mean, I mean, I'm

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Speaker 5: uh yeah. I want to also think that radio station

862
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 5: would give us opportunity uh to share a few thoughts

863
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 5: and ideas in regards to Uh. I belove a brother

864
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 5: uhe Jamil, I do I mean, UH said pot for

865
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 5: us to understand not only his his uh his character

866
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 5: in terms of uh his life in support of black

867
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 5: people in the fortified struggles, but also there's some particular

868
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 5: areas that we really need to look at in regards

869
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 5: to him, particularly for me, because he used to want

870
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 5: to introduce me to Islam. He and a brother by

871
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 5: the name of Muhammad Achmed MaTx Stafford, who was the

872
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 5: leader of ram A Registerary Action movement. We all were

873
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 5: in a lock together in the Old Queen's back in

874
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 5: nineteen seventy two. And at that time, you know, I

875
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 5: did not consider myselves to be at the level of

876
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 5: their own participation and examples of what it means to

877
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 5: be a conscious black man in America, particularly one who

878
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 5: was a support of our struggle for liberation, independence. And

879
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 5: so at a time when I used to watch them,

880
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 5: lance hit them. I'm talking about Ivan Jamil and Muhammad

881
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 5: Akhmed praying, I didn't understand why they were what they're

882
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 5: playing for while they is praying, so the every day

883
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 5: they get up to their prayers as Musclims, right and

884
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 5: uh we we argue for about six months, because I'm

885
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 5: not the kind of person to tell me anything. I'm

886
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 5: gonna go for it. Uh So, uh we argue for

887
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 5: about six months in terms of understanding the politics and

888
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 5: the the practices of the Islamic and how that is

889
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 5: one that is uh sup part of our struggle.

890
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 4: You know.

891
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 5: One of the things that was brought to my attention

892
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 5: by even Jamail a lot of meaning is that in

893
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 5: terms of our people in our struggle, we've always been

894
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 5: to God seeing people.

895
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 7: Uh.

896
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 5: We always believe in something. All of our leaders throughout

897
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 5: history had been people who believed in the higher self

898
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 5: of the in the and in the divine. And that's

899
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 5: one of the compromary aspects of Jamail A lot of means.

900
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 5: When he became a Muslim, he transcended the ideals of

901
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 5: the politics and a struggle to a moral issue uh,

902
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 5: and raised that necessily for us to change morally and

903
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 5: have a better moral foundation in regards to our struggle, UH,

904
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 5: as an application of the Islam in that in that capacity.

905
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 5: You know, all of our profits, right, what revolutionaries you know,

906
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 5: if you look at it, they came for the purpose

907
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 5: of changing the man's morals, proposition, and moral condition, and

908
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 5: they therefore changing social order by virtue of the ideas

909
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 5: of expressing that we are uh people who are motivated

910
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 5: and inspired by divine ideals and and and moral grounding. Uh.

911
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 5: And so he practiced that as part of his understanding

912
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 5: of the struggles that we have to be engaged in.

913
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 5: And so I'm will always be uh uh Uh, I

914
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 5: don't know, I guess, I guess appreciative right by having

915
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 5: had that kind of life experiences with with Elon Jamilana

916
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 5: means and being introduced to the Islam and trying to

917
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 5: help me get my name to do with the with

918
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 5: the Kiev.

919
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

920
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 5: So you know that that kind of closest, that kind

921
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 5: of understanding he's shooting in Portant for us to know. Uh,

922
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 5: but not only what he did for me on the individual,

923
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 5: but what he did for the east Side. I mean,

924
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 5: I think it was the east side of Atlanta on

925
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 5: one side human west side of Atlanta, you know, west

926
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 5: side of Atlanta, and changing the conditions of that environment,

927
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 5: you know, by virtual over sids in his monster and

928
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 5: his community in that area.

929
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 4: You know.

930
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 5: So uh, Yeah, he was targeted. There's no doubt about that.

931
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 5: He was targeting. Even in hotel pro papers inform us

932
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 5: that he was.

933
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 10: Uh.

934
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 5: They have his name mintioned in cot As as a target,

935
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 5: you know. So uh and really one the reason why

936
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 5: because you know, you know, they created laws behind him,

937
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 5: what he called the rat Brown law, you know, uh,

938
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 5: from by virtue of him articulating the issues of our struggle.

939
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 4: Uh.

940
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 5: I thig it was in Ohio, Cincinnati, I believe it

941
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 5: was in Ohio uh uh and uh. As a result

942
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 5: of him making a presentation and leaving and and and

943
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 5: continue repressing in our community, the people had an insurrection

944
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 5: and they try to blank you for the insurrection although

945
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 5: he was one hundreds of miles away when the people

946
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 5: rose up, you know, and they called them, uh, the

947
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 5: rat brown law, you know. So, yeah, he had been

948
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 5: talking for for years, involvement with Snake and involved with

949
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 5: Black Type A Party, involvement in guds, rebuilding the community

950
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 5: of what side of Atlanta, you know. So it's import

951
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 5: for us to understand the historical foundation of Jimi Alata

952
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 5: means and what he means to what he meant to

953
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,280
Speaker 5: a lot of people, uh or over over his years

954
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 5: as a quote unquote and I said it deliberately and

955
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 5: purposely and intentionally as a revolutionary.

956
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 9: Absolutely. Thank you so much, Julie, if you could, you know,

957
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 9: one of the things that we want to make sure

958
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,719
Speaker 9: the community understands is that here you have a brother

959
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 9: who lived by the ten point programing platform presented by

960
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 9: the Black Panther Party as well as other revolutionary principles,

961
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 9: et cetera. And here, you know, he made that transition

962
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 9: into Islam and then wrote Revolution by the book and

963
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 9: was able to connect up those philosophies with you know,

964
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 9: a spiritual concept like Islam. Could you speak a little

965
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 9: bit on that, yeah, of course, you know.

966
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 5: Originally, you know, H. F. Brown, I was a member

967
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 5: and a leader of SNICK, a student coordinating committee. Eventually

968
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 5: he've all became to the Student of National Coordinating Committee.

969
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 5: And when he evolved out of the rights movement into

970
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:48,919
Speaker 5: the Black part movement, here Stoken's Carmichael was I guess

971
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 5: you can say co leaders of STICK and a youth

972
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 5: movement at that time. He eventually transitioned into the Black

973
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 5: panth Aparty, came to Minister of Justice for the Black

974
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 5: paranth ap Party and as a results of him gravitating

975
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 5: that level, he began to implement some of the major

976
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 5: platforms of the Black Panther Party, you know, and the

977
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 5: back By Party. You know, many people don't understand the

978
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 5: Black Times of Party, Back Band Party contribute to our

979
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 5: overall struggle. You know what we have today in terms

980
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 5: of example of the breakfast programs, maybe having schools today

981
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 5: that the Trump eventually is trying to remove, but the

982
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 5: breast plob against they evolved by the back Back the Party.

983
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 5: They came out of the Black Down the Party. The

984
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 5: clinic health clinic that we had in our communities, they

985
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 5: involved and started out of the Black Pannther Party. Transportation

986
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 5: to go see you loved ones in prisons, they came

987
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 5: out of the blackground the Party. And there's various other

988
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 5: programs that involved in originally out of Black Counted Party

989
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 5: and police. Note the back of Party was a youth movement.

990
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 5: There was nobody in the backgrounds of party over the

991
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 5: age of thirty at an inception. So these are young people.

992
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 5: I was sixteen years old when I joined the Black

993
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 5: Panther Party. I was thineteen when I was officially captured

994
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 5: and sent to prisoners for forty nine plus years as

995
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 5: a results of my work in the Black Lins Party

996
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 5: and Black Paration Army and so Jamil out of mean representative.

997
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 5: Those goals represent those ideas.

998
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 4: Where he got thelance coming.

999
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 5: And when he moved to uh Uh establishes his community

1000
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 5: on the East End on the West End of Atlanta,

1001
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 5: he applied those programs, the very same programs breakfast programs,

1002
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 5: health clinics, and et cetera, by by virtue of his

1003
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 5: community itself. So we understand that you know the experience

1004
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 5: that he UH he had with the BANKSI the party

1005
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 5: he transformed and applied them as he continued to evolve

1006
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 5: UH and became a Muslim and established Muslim community a

1007
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 5: right family.

1008
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: Fifteen after the top, that just Johnny, I guess you,

1009
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: doctor Kaya Patterson's got a panel of of folks of

1010
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: discussing to me our man, some of the enormous h

1011
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: Rap Brown and those of you have listened to this

1012
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: program for a while. I heard his son have been

1013
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: on here, Kyrie el So of course our condolences to

1014
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 1: the family of his passing. But one of the things

1015
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: that why we have in the discussion on the person

1016
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: formerly known as h Rap Brown, some people do just

1017
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: know him as the h Rap Brown because it's so

1018
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: many it's the history of him has been so distorted.

1019
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: The younger generation which will just read what the other

1020
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: folks wrote about him, and unfortunately most of the writings

1021
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: will tell about what happened would call his demise while

1022
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: he's arrested in Georgia, but they didn't ever talk about

1023
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: what he did before. As I mentioned, we had his son,

1024
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: Kyrie Ellenman with us. It was an attorney by the way,

1025
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: and his father with father. The car sell Us is

1026
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: an attorney. His father, carver Us sell Us, worked with

1027
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: h when he was h Rap Brown in the struggle

1028
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: fighting in the streets. And these two gentlemen never met

1029
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: each other, so we put them together because they're both

1030
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: attorneys and their father's best friends. Kind of shocked that

1031
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: they didn't know each other, so we actually put these

1032
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: guys together so they had they had the conversation. Well,

1033
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: we got to take a short break. Dr Patterson, we'll

1034
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: come back. I'll let you introduce some more members of

1035
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: the panel so we can talk more about Jamal l

1036
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: almen or h Rap Brown as some of you don't

1037
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: And if you got question, family, reach out to us

1038
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy

1039
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: six and we'll taket calls next and Grand Rising family,

1040
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: thanks for staying with us on this Wednesday morning getaway

1041
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 1: day for some of some of you're gonna start the

1042
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: holidays starting the holiday, I actually say starting tomorrow. We're

1043
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 1: going to be here tomorrow, by the way, but right now,

1044
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: I guess this, Doctor ko Kaie Patterson has a panel

1045
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: in force Vers this morning discussing Jamil L. Men Uh

1046
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: Jamil Abdullah al Man. He was in MOM and was

1047
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: formerly known as h Rap Brown. So Dr Patterson, let

1048
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: you just do some more.

1049
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 4: Members of the panel, thank you so much for you See.

1050
01:01:56,280 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 9: You know, we you know, always have to kind of

1051
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 9: explained why we do what we do as revolutionaries, as

1052
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 9: people who are committed to working in the community.

1053
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 5: Uh.

1054
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 9: You know a lot of times people don't look at

1055
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 9: us revolutionaries as human beings, as individuals who are just

1056
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 9: as normal as they are.

1057
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 4: You know. But you heard brother.

1058
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 9: Jalil just talk about his relationship with the mom and

1059
01:02:23,880 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 9: what that relationship did for him. I wanted to bring

1060
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 9: my brother Jamil on who's down there in apl my

1061
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 9: big brother, another soldier in the community, to talk a

1062
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:41,920
Speaker 9: little bit about his relationship with Emm Jamail Alaman and

1063
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 9: what it did for him.

1064
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 4: Brother Jamil, And when they come up to the law,

1065
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 4: He've got to good morning.

1066
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 10: It's always a good day when we can wake up

1067
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 10: and get praising things to a law. And uh it's

1068
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 10: a solemn day these last couple of days since we

1069
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 10: did lose our beloved brother Imam Jamil And I mean

1070
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 10: my name is brother Jamil ab Do la Shei.

1071
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 9: Living below aka Uncle Hap. And I've been a part of.

1072
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 10: E Man's Jamil's community down here in the West End

1073
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 10: since the mid eighties and I met Imam Jamil H

1074
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 10: during this time. The height of the eighties, of course,

1075
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 10: was the Reagan nomics era, UH, when when Reagan flooded

1076
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 10: all the hoods with the guns and the drugs. And

1077
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 10: at the forefront of the liberation of cleaning the hoods

1078
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 10: up was Email Jamil and over here in the West

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01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 10: End in at least, And I know it's a serious

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01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 10: UH situation going.

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01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 4: On right now today even as.

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01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 10: We prepare for his gymnaza or his funeral, which is

1083
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 10: the physical funeral. I believe the body is going to

1084
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 10: be down in Florida where his son is at. But

1085
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 10: his community is here in the web and we're going

1086
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 10: to have try to have simultaneous prayer around three o'clock

1087
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 10: this afternoon along with the brothers down in Florida, and

1088
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 10: just to show some solidarity on behalf of brother Man, Brother.

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01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: Jamie, let me interrupt for a second. So where's that

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01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: going to be in Atlantic? Do you have an address

1091
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 1: for folks listening to Atlantic to be It's.

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01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 10: Going to be at the West End Mosque at the

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01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 10: five forty seven West End place over at the mosque

1094
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 10: at the field on right next to the mosque at

1095
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 10: three o'clock today, So all those who didn't work able

1096
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 10: to go down to South Florida, you know, the West End,

1097
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 10: which is his community that he established back in the

1098
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 10: late seventies, early eighties, in the mid seventies early eighties,

1099
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 10: that he establishes where we actually thought it was going

1100
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 10: to be at the Jenaza was going to be, but

1101
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 10: due to certain situations and circumstances, it's going down down there.

1102
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 10: But of course we have to give honor and respect

1103
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 10: to him wherever we're at.

1104
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 4: And I believe.

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01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 10: Different massages or mass jed are having the same slat,

1106
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 10: which is Genaza Eld Guy or the one in absentia

1107
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 10: or when you're not able to actually physically be where

1108
01:05:53,960 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 10: the Genazo funeral is, you still make some rockcot or

1109
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 10: make a prayer and supplication for the deceased.

1110
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 4: And brother Emam Jamil touched a lot of us, as

1111
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 4: we know.

1112
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 10: He's a universal icon and the struggle and liberation for

1113
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 10: not just the black people, but the poor and downtroden people,

1114
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 10: people who can't speak for themselves.

1115
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 4: People who are down and out.

1116
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 5: Uh.

1117
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 10: He was. He was that voice and we just want

1118
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 10: to give honor respect to him for the struggle that

1119
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 10: he's He was. He's been in the struggle all his life,

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01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 10: you know, from from back in the times where everybody

1121
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 10: knows the snick and the Black Panther Party that he

1122
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 10: came from. But his most recent struggle with the ship

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01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 10: stem being incarcerated.

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01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 4: Who plus years is the real is the real issue?

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01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:08,480
Speaker 7: Uh?

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01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 10: And we know there's other political prisoners who and free

1127
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 10: them all. You know the call, we all know the

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01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 10: call free them all? A dream all.

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01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 11: Uh Uh?

1130
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 10: But Email Jamil was what was uh at the forefront

1131
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 10: and his spirit is still going to remain at the forefront.

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01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 10: One book I want to recommend is Revolution by the

1133
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 10: book which is the Rapper is Vibe. This is a

1134
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 10: book written by Email Jamil. And if you really want

1135
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 10: to know about the rap and you really want to

1136
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 10: know about the email after the rap, read Revolution by

1137
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:51,959
Speaker 10: the book.

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01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 4: This is the Rap is Vib. Email Jamil a lot

1139
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 4: of means and I'm gonna read a short little experpert.

1140
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 1: I don't think we have time for that. I hate

1141
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: to do that to you because we've got a bunch

1142
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 1: of folks that doctor Patison has. I want to get

1143
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: some of those folks. And we're racing the clock here

1144
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: at twenty seven minute after the top of our family.

1145
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: Just checking in, Doctor Kakai Passon has a panel members

1146
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: from the Iman Jamil Action Network discussing Iman Jamil who

1147
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: passed away and they're talking about his Jananza that's the

1148
01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: funeral service in the Muslim because he wasn't Muslim. In fact,

1149
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: he became my mom while he was incarcerating those of

1150
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 1: you know the history of those of you got some

1151
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: got some days on you. You understand and knew who

1152
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: he was in these days of h Rap Brown along

1153
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: with Snaker running with what was then snow Could Carl

1154
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: Michael has now was changed his name before it changed

1155
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: his name to Kwame Terray. And this is what we're

1156
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: discussing this morning, with the impact that he had on

1157
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: some of the lives of some of his followers. So

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01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 1: doctor Patterson, can you introduce somebody else real quick?

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01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:56,799
Speaker 9: Absolutely? You know on the line we have the Jamil

1160
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:01,720
Speaker 9: Action Network, Jamil Lamina Actual Network. I'm a part of

1161
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 9: that specific group we have on the line. Our sister

1162
01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 9: Shaffia uh and I think our brother Ibrahim Uh is on,

1163
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 9: so let me turn over to them to uh kind

1164
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 9: of bring us up to date, but also look at

1165
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 9: uh you know what that history has been like for

1166
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 9: him being incarcerated, the effect that it has had and

1167
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 9: not just on him but his family and all of

1168
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 9: us who love him deaily. So let me introduce give

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01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 9: my salaams to Sister Shaffiah and brother Ibrahim.

1170
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's start with Sister Shafa Calls from Savannah, George,

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01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,160
Speaker 1: Sister your thoughts, yes.

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01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 11: Someone want good morning to everyone. I actually would like

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01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 11: to just first to brother Ibrahim the chair and I'm

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01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 11: here in chair of Elim's Interaction network. But I do

1175
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 11: want to thank brother Carl and w O L for

1176
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 11: having the courage to come on and give space and

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01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 11: time for Mom's struggle to be uh come out of

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01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 11: the clutches you know, of its criminal injustice system. Just

1179
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 11: asking to be about our third or fourth time you know,

1180
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 11: coming on. I also want to just be grateful and

1181
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 11: being part of you know, the paddle with with all

1182
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 11: of my brother's soldiers here. But I'd like to after

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01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 11: Brother Ibrahim to speak on some of the the mom's

1184
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 11: early history and groundings that in in Alabama and Snick

1185
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 11: and Washington, d C. That you know, laid the basis

1186
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 11: for the kinds of work that was done later on.

1187
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 11: But I wanted to defer to our share our a

1188
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 11: mere brother art Braham Abdullah.

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01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: All right, Uh the topic Brother Abraham slamake, my brother

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01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 1: came from Cleveland.

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01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 12: The love love from La. I'd like to get everybody

1192
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 12: here and thank you brother Carl for altmans to be

1193
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 12: on this time. That's you know, really it's not on

1194
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:25,839
Speaker 12: the style of moment, but it's also a happy occasion

1195
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 12: in the way that Imam Jamil is free, you know,

1196
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 12: and I believe that Emunt Jamil are the means you know,

1197
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 12: in an Islamic tradition that you know, Imam Jamil due

1198
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 12: to his condition being in captivity by his enemy and

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01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 12: unjustly you know, incarcerated, that Imam Jamil is a martyr.

1200
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:45,800
Speaker 12: So that's one thing that we have to keep in

1201
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 12: mind that we understand it in Islamic tradition that that

1202
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 12: a loss of Panamatala says that you know, say out

1203
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 12: of those you know who died in the path of

1204
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,560
Speaker 12: a loss of that they're dead, that they're alive. So

1205
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 12: so when a person is a martyr, they don't have

1206
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,760
Speaker 12: the name reckoning that we have, so we have to

1207
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 12: keep that in mind as well. But Mom Jim, what

1208
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 12: I mean, one of the things that's testimony to his

1209
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 12: life is the fact that so many people around the

1210
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 12: country have reached out and have said that, you know,

1211
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 12: they want to, you know, perform the Jenaza prayer or

1212
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 12: the funeral prayer for your mom Jamil, even though they're

1213
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 12: not in the location and his body is not there.

1214
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 12: So this is to me, is something that's touch that

1215
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 12: that that that you know, that that testifies that who

1216
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 12: he mom Jamil was in life and what he meant

1217
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 12: to people and the ability that he had as a

1218
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 12: leader in order to to to you know, to rally

1219
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 12: people and to motivate people. Like one of the brothers

1220
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 12: was saying earlier that one of the things that he

1221
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,679
Speaker 12: Mom Jamil would always do is ask what he could

1222
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 12: do for you, Even when he was in this situation

1223
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 12: that he was in, you know, for the last you know,

1224
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 12: twenty plus years, you know, twenty five years that you know,

1225
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 12: he was still asking people what could he do for them?

1226
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 12: And I think that as a leader, what he exemplified

1227
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 12: as a leader is the same thing like people like

1228
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 12: Malcolm may Alard have mercy on him exemplified as a

1229
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 12: leader and others have exemplified it as leaders in this country,

1230
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 12: you know, uh, in the struggle for the for the

1231
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 12: liberation of our people. And I think that in terms

1232
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 12: of when he you know, in his development, you know,

1233
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 12: coming from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, you know, then in his

1234
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 12: early years, coming up to UH to d C and

1235
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 12: you know, becoming you know, the chair of SNICK after

1236
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 12: Kame Toureys Carmichael and you know, and eventually you know,

1237
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,640
Speaker 12: moving into you know, uh, you know, being part of

1238
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 12: the Black Panther Party and and also allows Lows County, Alabama.

1239
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 12: The work that he did, even even in terms of

1240
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 12: the adoption of the logo of the Black Panthers came

1241
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 12: from the Lownes County Freedom Organization that you know, it's

1242
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 12: im Jamil was instrumentally and at that time it's a

1243
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 12: troup Brown and the end of this day, Lownes County,

1244
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 12: White Hall, Alabama was is a place that you know,

1245
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 12: it's a historical place and that that Imam Jamil was

1246
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,520
Speaker 12: instrumental in making.

1247
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 4: It what it is.

1248
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 12: To this day, and one of the last things that

1249
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 12: he was doing previous to him being incarcerated was and

1250
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,560
Speaker 12: I think, in my opinion, I think that this is

1251
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 12: the reason why he's he actually was was set up

1252
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 12: and incarcerated in the first place, because he was established

1253
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 12: in the community in the white you know, so it

1254
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 12: wasn't and it was and we see from what with

1255
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 12: the brother Jamil mentioned what he did in the West

1256
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 12: end of Atlanta. You know, that was that's something that

1257
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 12: was unprecedented in the country, you know, and he took

1258
01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 12: a community and it just shows his leadership. Again, the

1259
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 12: charisma a lot only sends people like that on rare occasion.

1260
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 12: You know, we're gonna work for his life, but I mean,

1261
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 12: the legacy will continue, and you know, we have a

1262
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 12: lot of work to do and to build from what

1263
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:17,520
Speaker 12: he what he's established.

1264
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:20,920
Speaker 1: All right, all right, twenty six away from the top

1265
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 1: of that family. Just checking in and doctor Khai Patterson,

1266
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 1: he's got a panel today this morning discussing tom our men.

1267
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 1: Some of you Knowormous h Rap Brown, a central figure

1268
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: in our freedom movement back in the days, back in

1269
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 1: the sixties. And the reason why we're doing this family

1270
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: because many of you don't know or weren't around when

1271
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,720
Speaker 1: you know, back then in the sixties, in the mid

1272
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 1: sixties when fighting for our field. They were literally fighting

1273
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 1: for our freedom along with Kwame Terrae from knowing as

1274
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 1: Stoke bec Michael when they were running the Snake organization.

1275
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 1: But I got a question, doctor Patson, maybe you were

1276
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: one of the panel members can respond to this because

1277
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 1: what we saw when when he was in prison and

1278
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 1: it's health started to deteriorate, and we try to get

1279
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: him released on humanitarian grounds, and that that went by

1280
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 1: the wayside, but we're working with his son and trying

1281
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 1: to get that happen. And now we see the same

1282
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 1: thing happening with Mahmaya Abu Jamal in Pennsylvania. He's in

1283
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 1: prison in the political prison, and his health he is

1284
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 1: also going going down, and we try to help and

1285
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 1: we were still trying to get him re at least

1286
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 1: on humanitarian grounds. Do you think that and some people

1287
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: think that what happened to to what's happening now to

1288
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 1: to MoMA, what happened to uh Jamil. They're deliberately sort

1289
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,719
Speaker 1: of punishing them and refusing to give them the medical

1290
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: treatment that they need and hoping that the sort of

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01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 1: hoping that they die a slow death. That's that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm getting from the people who support Mama and they

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01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: say the same thing that happened to Emil Jim How

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01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 1: I mean, do you see a correlation there, doctor pastor

1295
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Speaker 1: or anybody on the pop.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, that is definitely a part of the plan. Uh,

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01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 9: let me bring Shafia in on that and everybody else.

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01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 9: Can you know, veg you back on that, But yeah,

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01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 9: that's definitely part of the plan to severe.

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Speaker 11: Yes, sir. So you know, there's been a term that

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01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 11: has been that the movement has coined. It's called execution

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01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 11: by medical neglect, and that is a real strategy that

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01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 11: that we have observed that has been applied not only

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01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 11: to Emom Jamil, but to Momea. They are trying to

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01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 11: do it with men Stewart, they did it. They've done

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01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 11: it with a number of political prisoners and prisoners of

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01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 11: war by withholding. And they never say we won't give it.

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01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 13: They just give trickle a.

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01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 11: Trickle, a trickle of so called care, keep folks in

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01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 11: the worst conditions, conditions that are in humane or have

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01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 11: and have been documented by the United Nations as cool

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01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 11: and unhuman in human punishment.

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Speaker 14: Right.

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Speaker 11: Uh so yes, Uh, it's not it's not a question,

1316
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 11: it's a it's a it seems almost like a standing,

1317
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 11: standing tradition. I also wanted to to put forward and

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01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 11: and thank you for the Ibraheim for going into and

1319
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 11: dealing with the about the Lowns County Freedom Democratic Organization

1320
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 11: and the work many folks you know, we we we Uh.

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01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 11: First of all, a lot of the young people do

1322
01:18:32,240 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 11: not have forgotten or never were taught about the role

1323
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 11: that they played in going into you know, the smaller

1324
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 11: rural communities where you know, black people being terrorized right

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01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 11: by the klan, by the White Citizens Council, by the

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01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,480
Speaker 11: by the Sheriff's department.

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Speaker 1: By the right and right there we got to make

1328
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: a little quick stop and check the news and trafficking

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01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: our different cities. I let you finish your thought. On

1330
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 1: the other side, only twenty two minutes away from the

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01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 1: top of the hour, we get doctor Kokai Patterson's got

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01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 1: a panel here discussing how our brother, a departing brother

1333
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,680
Speaker 1: just left us Iman Jamil abdul men some of the

1334
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 1: US h rap Brown. What are your thoughts? You two

1335
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 1: can join this conversation, reach out to us at eight

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Speaker 1: hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy six, and we'll

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01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: take a phone calls after the news that's next and

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01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 1: Grand Rising family. Thanks are staying with us on this

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01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, a getaway day for some who are celebrating

1340
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: the holiday. We'll be here tomorrow. Our guess right now

1341
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 1: is doctor ko Kai Patterson. He has a panel discussing

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Speaker 1: the late Jamal Jamail L. L. Men Iman Jameil L.

1343
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: Men formerly known as h Rap Brown, and the reason

1344
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: why we're doing the most folks don't know anything or

1345
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,640
Speaker 1: a lot about h Rap Brown and know's got a

1346
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:45,560
Speaker 1: cool name and it was a revolutionary back in the

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01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 1: day with Stopy Carmichael, but they don't know really know

1348
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: his teachings. And as I mentioned earlier, we've had his

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01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: son and who's an attorney, and we try to help

1350
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: who are trying at that time to get him a

1351
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 1: humanitarian release because he's been incarcerated on what people say

1352
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,599
Speaker 1: it was a trump of charges in the state of Georgia.

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01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:03,759
Speaker 1: Before we go back to the panel and doctor Patterson

1354
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 1: is wearing mind you come up later this morning, Brother

1355
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,879
Speaker 1: Sidiki is going to join us, and also tomorrow talented researcher,

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01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: brother Katyawati will be here and also dotre Padic doctor

1357
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: and restaurant tour doctor Baruk will be here as well.

1358
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, we're going to be here on Thursday. So

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01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: if you're in Baltimore, I keep you ready to tuned

1360
01:20:20,120 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 1: to ten ten WLB or if you're in the DMV

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01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 1: WE or on fourteen fifteen WL. All right, doctor Patterson,

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01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 1: let's let's assist the Shaffia finish her thoughts the Shapia.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir so.

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Speaker 11: One of the key things about himm Jamille and the

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01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 11: work that was done back in that day is that

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01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 11: they were everyday people who were out martching, who came

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01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 11: out to the mass meetings, and it was about a

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01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 11: struggle for power. It wasn't just about as gets projected today,

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01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 11: about voting for the sake of voting, but having a

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01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 11: right to begin to control with a to fight off

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01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 11: the terrorism of the claim and have to control over

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Speaker 11: our lives. And so the organization of the Lows County

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01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 11: Freedom Democratic Party as well as for example, over in Mississippi,

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01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 11: the Mississippi Freedom Party over there was about black people

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01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 11: organizing to control, just like in DC when DC is

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01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 11: fighting for a home rule right not to be controlled

1377
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 11: by Congress, but for the people who lived there to

1378
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 11: control their lives. And so this has been a part

1379
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:36,080
Speaker 11: of what Imam Jamil has always been about. I do

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01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 11: want to pivot and and just reiterate uh uh some

1381
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 11: important information in that there is a call asking because

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01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 11: people cannot get to South Florida where the actual funeral

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01:21:55,400 --> 01:22:00,599
Speaker 11: players will be for Imam Jamil, there is a call

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Speaker 11: number one of around the country. They're asking any in

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01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 11: almus and all Muslims to stop and even if gather

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01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,639
Speaker 11: if you can at two o'clock, which is the time

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01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 11: of the Genaza in Florida, h to stop and do

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01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 11: it for.

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Speaker 4: Prayer.

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Speaker 10: The actual Genaza prayer, even in Florida is going to

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Speaker 10: be at three. They're going to be gathering at two.

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Speaker 11: They change, they change the time.

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Speaker 10: No, they're going to be there at you but the

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Speaker 10: actual prayer, the Genaza prayer is.

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Speaker 4: Going to be held at three o'clock. That's why everybody

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Speaker 4: is thank you in solidarity at three.

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Speaker 15: Okay, thank you for that correction.

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Speaker 10: We didn't know that what they want the people there

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Speaker 10: in Florida to be at the place at two o'clock okay, okay,

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Speaker 10: but the Act, yeah, the Act prayer you know, which

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01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 10: only takes about two minutes, three minutes itself, is going

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Speaker 10: to take place at three. So that's why I think

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01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,120
Speaker 10: trying to get the people who were at three to

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Speaker 10: be in solidarity on them.

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01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 11: So mean, so you know, we'll we'll put the word

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01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 11: the call out. There is a call. We did not

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01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 11: know about the shift at three o'clock, right, but we're

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01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:32,640
Speaker 11: making a call around the world. There are emails mostache

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01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 11: in Sierra Leone and in West and other parts of

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01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 11: West Africa who are have been listening in. There are

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01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 11: mass in California, Detroit, Ohio, Chicago who are planning to

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01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 11: do what the Genaza in absension today and they want

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01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 11: to do it in solidarity. So we will you know,

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01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:02,600
Speaker 11: we're putting the it out. It doesn't have to be

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Speaker 11: a mosque that is related to Amom Jamail's community. This

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01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 11: is a man who stood for all of humanity. He

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01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 11: stood for all of the oppressed.

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01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 4: And so.

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01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 11: There is that call out and we know that, you know,

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01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 11: we want to make it easy for everyone, and so

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01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 11: we've also said that besides, if you cannot do it

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Speaker 11: today at three o'clock, that immediately after Friday prayers this

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01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 11: Friday to do the Jenaza our guibe or the jennaza

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01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 11: in absentia. You know, my brother Kakaya, I think it

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01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 11: was talked some about how the medium brother call talked

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01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 11: about how you know, revolutionaries get projected, you know, how

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01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,519
Speaker 11: the history or the real three of our people, it

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01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 11: gets projected, and that revolutionaries, if you look at the

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01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:10,599
Speaker 11: corporate media made who were made the panthers, the folks

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01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 11: and other organizations were made to look like wild eyed crazy,

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01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 11: you know, insane, irrational gun waving. You know, no who

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01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 11: are thoughtful, kind, compassionate people who were human beings right,

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01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:32,520
Speaker 11: who thought, who studied? You know, who made the differences

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01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 11: and the only difference has made the commitment of their

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01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:40,560
Speaker 11: lives to change the conditions of people and to do

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01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 11: whatever is necessary.

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01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 9: We had.

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Speaker 11: But revolutionaries have families that have you know, uh, the

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01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 11: human beings, their neighbors, they're they're coworkers, right, and and

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01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 11: it is those people that you know that everyday folks

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01:25:56,280 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 11: who emms Gmail are always able to reach out out

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01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,759
Speaker 11: to and give an example about how to carry one's life.

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01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 11: And so you know, there's there are some people who

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01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 11: think that you know, thought that a Tratt Brown is

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01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 11: one person and the mom's emil or somebody else. No,

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01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 11: he just simply transcended and expanded.

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01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 4: But it's his work.

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01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:24,360
Speaker 11: When you look back at at the work done uh

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01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 11: in the mid sixties, you know, he was.

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01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 13: One of the one of the ones that you.

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01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:37,320
Speaker 11: Know, made sure that our movement of freedom as a people.

1452
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 11: And I heard, and I'll throw a little bombshell out there,

1453
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 11: that are people as an internal colonized nation within a nation,

1454
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 11: that we are connected and part of a worldwide movement

1455
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 11: against depression. And so we came out in in in

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01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 11: opposition to the Vietnam War. Our movement came out and

1457
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 11: understood that we stood shoulder to shoulder with the people

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01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 11: of South Africa with the struggles in Angola and in

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01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 11: Cuba and Namibia, and there's people in Algeria, all of

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01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 11: those kinds of struggles that we were in unity with

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01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:28,160
Speaker 11: because we were part of the oppressed and so with

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01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 11: the rights of a nation of people. And he incorporated

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01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 11: that into the work. But he also understood that we

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01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:40,640
Speaker 11: are inextricably linked with the rest of humanity. And so

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01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 11: when he became Muslim, when he accepted Islam. He also,

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01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 11: you know, made the correction and projected correction that we

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01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:54,040
Speaker 11: have to also do the internal work of ourselves to

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01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:58,520
Speaker 11: be the change that we say we want in society.

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01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 11: And so you can look and d Nigga die as

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01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 11: expressing you know who the external enemy is, but revolution,

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01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 11: by the book, is the internal enemy of individual looking.

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Speaker 11: One of his most famous sayings was, you know it

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01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 11: ain't about you. You know, you can't just be do

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01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 11: your own things right.

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01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:26,000
Speaker 1: It's because we got traffic coming up. It's six minutes

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01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: away from the top thing and doctor before we go

1477
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 1: to travel down to pasty. I know you wanted to

1478
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 1: say something real quick.

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01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, it's important, as my sister was saying, uh,

1480
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 9: to understand the humanism of individuals who commit themselves to war,

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01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 9: you know, and uh, you know, as the Loud sun

1482
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,560
Speaker 9: A League stated in his song Meet Me in the

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01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 9: Whirld when war is never easy. It's bound to make

1484
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,360
Speaker 9: you wory, you know, uh. And it's important for people

1485
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 9: to understand that it separates people and we might not

1486
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 9: see each other again until we win. These are the

1487
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 9: actual lyrics of look for Me in the Whorld when

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01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 9: written by my big brother blouse and at least so

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01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 9: so important that we understand, you know, the love that

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01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 9: we have in terms of working for our community.

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01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 1: And I think it's so important to this as well

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01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,720
Speaker 1: as a family, to the family that what he was

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01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 1: doing was doing it for us. You know, it wasn't

1494
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: a vanity trick. These were not out they're trying to

1495
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: be heroes. But they saw what he was and somebody

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01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 1: had to do it for us. And that's what this

1497
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 1: is what Stokely Carmichael, those freedom fighters back in the Sisters,

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01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing. So we would be in a

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01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,640
Speaker 1: better pace and Stans I wonder would they approve of

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01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: what's going on now? How are we doing now? We

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01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 1: fighting each other? You got different groups fighting this group,

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01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 1: but this group fighting this group, and what they were

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01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 1: about was all about unity. But stay with the family

1504
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 1: and panel because we've got to check the traffic and

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01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:51,680
Speaker 1: weather not different cities, and we've got to wrap up

1506
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:55,640
Speaker 1: with our panel. Interesting conversation though about Jama Jamail our men,

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01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 1: some of you know's h rap Brown. We'll probably get

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01:29:59,680 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: a chance, say one more call if you're out there

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01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy sixth

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Speaker 1: particular calls after the trafficking weather together this next Wednesday morning. Hey,

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01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 1: by the way, if you're traveling today, please take us

1512
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,479
Speaker 1: with listen. Please drive safely out there. I know folks

1513
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:15,040
Speaker 1: listening to us all across the country. Our guest right

1514
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: now is doctor ko Kai Patterson. He has a panel members.

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01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:20,560
Speaker 1: When we talked about imman gmail, A man some of

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01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,000
Speaker 1: you know him is h Rap Brown. Members of the

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01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 1: panel are from the Iman Jamail Action Network and we're

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01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 1: just about flat out of time. Oh let me take

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01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 1: as a message. I take one call for the group,

1520
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 1: and Cliff is the person calling from Connecticut the Cliff's

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01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:35,559
Speaker 1: Online three Grand Rising.

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01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 16: Cliff, you're on with the panel, Grand Rising, Carl, thanks

1523
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 16: you for taking my call all something like on Brothers.

1524
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 16: It's through your show that I even heard of brother

1525
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 16: h Red Brown and what happened to So my most

1526
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 16: respects in my prayers and sympathy are given to his

1527
01:30:49,320 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 16: family and to his friends and those close to him.

1528
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 16: So again, Kyl, thank you so much for even introducing

1529
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:57,679
Speaker 16: and shedding light on this positive brother.

1530
01:30:57,960 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 4: Much respect.

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01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,439
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Cliff. Uh So, so, let's do this.

1532
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:04,000
Speaker 1: We give everybody ten seconds to sign off because we've

1533
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 1: got UH. We have our next guest standing by futuristic researcher,

1534
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:11,679
Speaker 1: brother Saideka Bakari. So uh who wants to stop first?

1535
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 1: Anybody can stop wrestling or brother?

1536
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 9: Let me yeah, let me real quick and just thank you, uh.

1537
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 9: W Let me thank everyone UH in Washington, d C.

1538
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 9: And around the country and around the world who supported

1539
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 9: UH this action to uh pre Jamil Alami, let me

1540
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 9: thank everyone for their continued work and struggle UH to

1541
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:42,600
Speaker 9: bring about change in the community.

1542
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 4: And I yield.

1543
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 10: All right, brother Jamil, all right, Yeah, I'm gonna just

1544
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 10: leave with this on UH from a revolution by the

1545
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:59,839
Speaker 10: book on the back. The struggle is an ongoing process.

1546
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:03,800
Speaker 10: When the first slave rebelled against being a slave, he

1547
01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:07,280
Speaker 10: gave an alternative to slavery that has been built upon

1548
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:11,519
Speaker 10: until now that struggle. And they have their many movements

1549
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:15,560
Speaker 10: in the struggle, evolutionist movement, the anti slavery movement.

1550
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 4: The civil rights movement. But the struggle still goes on.

1551
01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:22,920
Speaker 4: Shake I mean.

1552
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 5: Max get here, yes, yes, a slow way peace. I

1553
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:35,479
Speaker 5: don't want to say halaki rajium from the LOWI we

1554
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 5: come for the lottery returned. I mean I also wanted

1555
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 5: to say this. Here a couple of things I want

1556
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 5: to say, and I'm trying to be as refresponsible can

1557
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 5: one is this year the peedles system in the United States.

1558
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:51,680
Speaker 5: Let's keep this understood that Emanjumil out of mean was

1559
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 5: put in slavery right, the peoples system in the United States,

1560
01:32:55,360 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 5: in the fact that it's a slave system. The same

1561
01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:00,759
Speaker 5: inch on the same paper that end the chattle slavery

1562
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 5: started pedo slavery. This country has never not been a

1563
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 5: slave nation. It is in fact a slave based on

1564
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 5: the Law fifteen Mini the United States Constitution state that

1565
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 5: slaty voluntary servitude exists except for those were duly convenient

1566
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 5: of a crime in the United States or in the jurisdiction.

1567
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 5: So let's note that point. The bridge system of the

1568
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 5: United States is a slave system. Second of all, I

1569
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 5: want to understand people understand that we are engaged and

1570
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 5: the struggle against genocides. They trying to genicide us, and

1571
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:29,600
Speaker 5: so we as to understand that's what the struggle of

1572
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 5: Elon Jimilladimir was about, fighting for our preservation and our

1573
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:37,600
Speaker 5: existence in this country as a result of the nefarious

1574
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:41,599
Speaker 5: system of white suprepacy and capitalist imperialism. So let's put

1575
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:44,719
Speaker 5: you that as on notes and faridly like the state.

1576
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 5: This year, we are engaged in a national struggle against genocides.

1577
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:55,719
Speaker 5: So July fourth, twenty twenty six, we are convening in Atlanta, Georgia,

1578
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 5: National Mobilization against Genocides. Please get in contact with the

1579
01:33:59,439 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 5: Spirit of men Della dot org Spiritmlla dot org and

1580
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 5: learn about this national campaign that he management out of meeting,

1581
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 5: supports and endorsed. This is a golden lejective we have

1582
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 5: continue to build on the leaky.

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01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:18,639
Speaker 1: We got that before you guys. All right, thank you, brother,

1584
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you for yielded. Who well, next,

1585
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 1: real quick, doctor Patterson, see if we can do this

1586
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 1: real quick? Since is your fail let me do it?

1587
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 4: Then?

1588
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:30,719
Speaker 1: Is your fair cause? Your closing remarks?

1589
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 11: They may be Mom Jamil the martyr, He is our

1590
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:36,080
Speaker 11: martyr we call on.

1591
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:40,799
Speaker 17: We asked that he'd be accepted in the highest stage

1592
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 17: of Jennifer, those of Paradise as a martyr, and we

1593
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 17: will have more intention of.

1594
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:50,840
Speaker 11: Carrying it on, carrying the struggle on.

1595
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 4: Thank you, Mom.

1596
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:56,560
Speaker 17: Jamil, and all of our ancestors have taken upon themselves

1597
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:58,600
Speaker 17: to fight for we will carry it on.

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01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: Thank you, bless of those who struggling.

1599
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:10,920
Speaker 12: Oppression is worse than the grave. It is better to

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01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:13,439
Speaker 12: live and for no noble cause than to live in

1601
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:14,400
Speaker 12: us lady.

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01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean me, I mean and everybodys you.

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01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 9: That's everybody, Brother Quasi in the game. Thank you so much.

1604
01:35:25,640 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 9: And we asked everybody uh to join this movement. As

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01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 9: my big brother stated, Uh, the panthers were were young

1606
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 9: people at age sixteen. If you were thirty, they might

1607
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:39,840
Speaker 9: call you grandpa back in that day. So what are

1608
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 9: young people doing now? So they should look at those

1609
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 9: examples and let's see if we can turn these things

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01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 9: around in our community. And again, thank you so much,

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01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 9: brother Quash in the w L family for.

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01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:52,959
Speaker 4: People education.

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01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 1: All righty, thank you, thank you.

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01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 11: Thanks all this time prem.

1615
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:02,800
Speaker 5: Pre coming should call a free a commands men, free your.

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01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:04,320
Speaker 14: More all.

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01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 1: Eight minutes off the top of the family. Just think

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01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 1: our panel there with doctor Cocart Patterson has turned over

1619
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:15,680
Speaker 1: now to brother Sadeka Bakari, Brother Sidiki, thank you being

1620
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:16,479
Speaker 1: so patient with us.

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01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 4: And grand Rising greetings brother grand Rise, and how you doing.

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01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 1: I'm still learning, man, I'm just amazing with some of

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01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:26,639
Speaker 1: this stuff that I don't know. You know, the more

1624
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:28,560
Speaker 1: the more you learn, the more you learn that you

1625
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 1: don't know that, you don't know a lot, you know.

1626
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 1: So I know I'm gonna learn a lot from you

1627
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 1: this morning because you've been our ears and our eyes

1628
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 1: and ears when it comes to AI artificial intelligence, but

1629
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 1: you take it to a different level. People just talk

1630
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 1: about the surface changes that AI artificial intelligence is bringing

1631
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:47,760
Speaker 1: or doing to our community, and many people don't even

1632
01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 1: know they're already working with AI artificial intelligence, but they

1633
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 1: don't know it yet. But you take it to it

1634
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 1: and that's just on the surface, you know, some of

1635
01:36:56,120 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 1: the digital things that we're doing as people. But tell

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01:36:58,960 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 1: us today, what you how deep we're going to go today?

1637
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:05,680
Speaker 1: You're going to get into complexion, plexuses of mother of

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01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 1: motherboard technology. What is what you mean by that?

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01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:15,400
Speaker 4: So? Okay, so here dealing with mother board technology. Okay,

1640
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 4: So let me explain It's simple, simply put so when

1641
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 4: we deal with motherboard technology. So, first of all, when

1642
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 4: you deal with AI, when you deal with technology, it's

1643
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 4: mimicking something. So that motherboard technology that it is mimicking

1644
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 4: is us as humans, so to speak. So you're dealing

1645
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 4: with spiritual technology. The framework of spiritual technology is primarily

1646
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 4: the framework of who and what we are as humans,

1647
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:41,599
Speaker 4: divine beings so to speak, So our imagination, our intuition,

1648
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 4: the central nervous system, the brain, and things of that nature,

1649
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 4: sales and so on and so forth. So when we

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01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 4: talk about a motherboard technology here, that's what we're going

1651
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 4: to talk about the essence of that, not computers per se,

1652
01:37:56,720 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 4: digital phones and things of that nature. We're going to

1653
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:03,720
Speaker 4: talk to or about the original computers digital phone, so

1654
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 4: to speak, which is ourselves, and we're going to deal

1655
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 4: with that through the gateway of trauma. So last time

1656
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:15,720
Speaker 4: I was on, we talked about trauma, a mother board

1657
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:20,600
Speaker 4: of technology and a mirror of unhealed memory and metadata.

1658
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 4: So the response was so overwhelming that a part two

1659
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 4: was necessary, and just from a standpoint of it's so

1660
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:35,639
Speaker 4: much information to deal with in regards to that topic

1661
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:39,719
Speaker 4: or my book. Now, next time I come on, Carl,

1662
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 4: if you give us the permission, we can deal with

1663
01:38:44,960 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 4: more of the other side of AI and technology and

1664
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 4: where it's heading and what's going on, because it's a

1665
01:38:50,200 --> 01:38:52,599
Speaker 4: lot of misinformation out here. It's a lot of people

1666
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:59,640
Speaker 4: teaching from ignorance, meaning they really don't understand what AI is,

1667
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 4: where AI is headed, these slogans AI is the future

1668
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 4: and things of that nature, and what that really means.

1669
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 4: To a degree, there's some truth in that it is

1670
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 4: the future, but it's not the future that people think

1671
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:15,320
Speaker 4: that it is. So we've talked about it. We'll talk

1672
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 4: about it some more.

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01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got to talk about that because you know,

1674
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 1: brother Sneaking, the person they call the godfather of Ai

1675
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:27,200
Speaker 1: prediction that AI is going to be a downfall of society.

1676
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 1: So you know this is right, dude, one of the

1677
01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:35,880
Speaker 1: godfathers anyway, you know along presentation. I'm sure you're familiar

1678
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 1: with that. But yeah, so let's deal with what we're

1679
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 1: dealing with right now though, because again that's all on

1680
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 1: the surface of what they're dealing with. Oh it's great,

1681
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:46,599
Speaker 1: but they don't understand that it can't work without us.

1682
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 1: I think that that's pivotal to this discussion.

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01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 4: That's right, it's twofold. So mainly what we need to

1684
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 4: be concerned about is ourselves, because the greatest war has

1685
01:39:57,960 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 4: taken place is the war that we have with ourselves.

1686
01:40:01,040 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 4: And I'm talking about the person him or herself specifically,

1687
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:10,000
Speaker 4: and also as it extends out the family, the community,

1688
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 4: are people in general. So that's what we really need

1689
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 4: to deal with as opposed to all these external things

1690
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:20,120
Speaker 4: that are ultimately just distractions from us dealing with what

1691
01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 4: we need to deal with within ourselves. So trauma, it's

1692
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:32,719
Speaker 4: a huge, huge aspect of our beingness that most people

1693
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 4: ignore that most people are enslaved by or enslaved too.

1694
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:41,720
Speaker 4: So we're going to deal with that and in many

1695
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 4: things that trauma correlates to. Right, So when we look

1696
01:40:45,439 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 4: at trauma correlates with again, it's it's a motherboard of technology,

1697
01:40:51,240 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 4: it's a supercomputer, it's blockchain technology. You're dealing with ritual,

1698
01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 4: you're dealing with sigil because we actually become the sigil

1699
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 4: for trauma. All Right, this gets really deep if we really,

1700
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:06,439
Speaker 4: you know, get into it and pay attention to what's

1701
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 4: happening alchemy. You're talking about transmutation and different aspects of

1702
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 4: that type of science. When you deal with trauma, trauma's

1703
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 4: dealing with every aspect of our beingness. As I mentioned,

1704
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:23,400
Speaker 4: essential nervous system, of subconscious mind, your neurological self. These

1705
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:32,480
Speaker 4: are all aspects of how the memory, the triggering of memories, stimuli, reactions,

1706
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 4: and things of that nature. How that relates to trauma

1707
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:39,120
Speaker 4: as well as fear, and when we deal with that,

1708
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 4: be very clear. When you deal with trauma, you're dealing

1709
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 4: with neurological markers. You're dealing with hormonal markers. You're dealing

1710
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:52,560
Speaker 4: with memory markers, behavioral markers, emotional markers, electrical markers, biomarkers,

1711
01:41:52,680 --> 01:41:57,960
Speaker 4: bio fingerprints, so to speak, trackers. You're also dealing with

1712
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:02,920
Speaker 4: like currents from an electrical perspective, you're dealing with timeline markers,

1713
01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:06,559
Speaker 4: you're dealing with biometric signals, you're dealing with atanas because

1714
01:42:06,600 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 4: that trauma actually bonds with other types of energies, whether

1715
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 4: that's within you or outside of you. So it does

1716
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:16,280
Speaker 4: have a parasitic nature.

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01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 10: It does.

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01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 4: Interface and connect with toxicity and parasites and entities and

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01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:26,760
Speaker 4: things of that nature. So it's a lot deeper than

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01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:30,640
Speaker 4: we think. It's not just what you see on the

1721
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:34,160
Speaker 4: surface when a person is actually dealing with trauma or

1722
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:38,840
Speaker 4: have become possessed so to speak, by trauma. So these

1723
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 4: are all things that you will be dealing with the

1724
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:45,679
Speaker 4: bonding of trauma. Again, trauma's toxic hormones will get into

1725
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:49,919
Speaker 4: hormones and how trauma affects hormones because this is a process.

1726
01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 4: So hopefully people will understand more once we get through

1727
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 4: this morning that it is a process that the body

1728
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:58,920
Speaker 4: is going through when you deal with trauma, when you

1729
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,080
Speaker 4: deal with fear. People say things like fear is a

1730
01:43:02,160 --> 01:43:04,640
Speaker 4: illusion and you know all these other things, and to

1731
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 4: a degree that might be true, but as far as

1732
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:11,640
Speaker 4: the body, it is not an illusion. The body is

1733
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 4: dealing with fear. The body is reacting to fear. Hormones

1734
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 4: are dealing with fear, right, Your neurons are dealing with fear,

1735
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:23,880
Speaker 4: Your essential nervous system is dealing with fear. Your subconscious

1736
01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 4: mind is dealing with fear. Your brain is dealing with fear,

1737
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 4: all right. So from that perspective, it's definitely not an illusion,

1738
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 4: all right. So those are things we have to deal with.

1739
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:39,400
Speaker 4: Emotions and how that relates to trauma and fear, synapsy

1740
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 4: and how that works in regards to trauma and fear,

1741
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:46,280
Speaker 4: the neurological aspect of who and what we are. So

1742
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 4: it's very in depth how we relate to trauma, the

1743
01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:54,439
Speaker 4: fear based programming. These are external things. The fear based

1744
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 4: programming that trigger's trauma. Psychological operations or styops programming that

1745
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:01,960
Speaker 4: trigger's trauma. So all these different things that we're dealing with.

1746
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 4: Cognitive dissonance that triggers trauma, so media narratives that triggers trauma.

1747
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 4: So this is a very lengthy aspect of our beingness

1748
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,559
Speaker 4: and to a degree you can't consider some aspects of trauma.

1749
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 4: Is artificial intelligence Again, it's definitely a technology. It's definitely

1750
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:26,559
Speaker 4: working algorithmically, all right, because there is a pattern. Again,

1751
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 4: there is a process. There is a pathology from a

1752
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 4: standpoint too, or of how trauma works and operates within us.

1753
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:37,559
Speaker 1: All Right, family, it's sixteen after the top of their

1754
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:39,439
Speaker 1: brother Sindeka be caring. Hey call up a couple of

1755
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,200
Speaker 1: friends and telling brother Sadeki is on the radio. They'll

1756
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and you're going to learn a lot this morning,

1757
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 1: and you gotta listen very keenly, very keenly. So, brother Sineki,

1758
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 1: what can we do about the fear aspect?

1759
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:54,840
Speaker 4: Well, okay, So when we deal with fan trauma, first

1760
01:44:54,840 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 4: and foremost, what people have to do, and there's foundational things.

1761
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:02,439
Speaker 4: The main foundational thing that a person must do is

1762
01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 4: be honest with him or herself. You have to be

1763
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,720
Speaker 4: honest about your traumas, whether that's childhood or whatever the

1764
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:10,720
Speaker 4: situation is, as opposed to suppressing it and things of

1765
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 4: that nature. And that's what really causes the issues, is

1766
01:45:14,439 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 4: when it's suppressed, when we don't when we're not honest

1767
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:21,479
Speaker 4: with ourselves and understanding that we have certain issues due

1768
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 4: to what's happened in our childhood, what's happened as adults,

1769
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 4: and things of that nature. And it's very interesting and

1770
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 4: dealing with trauma. So let's say you are an adult,

1771
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 4: you're thirty, forty, fifty, sixty, seventy years old. You may

1772
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 4: have had trauma at ten years old. Now what's interesting

1773
01:45:40,479 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 4: is see this is the reason.

1774
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:44,120
Speaker 1: Right there, because we've got to step aside for feelings.

1775
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:45,479
Speaker 1: I don't want to break your rhythm because this is

1776
01:45:45,560 --> 01:45:48,160
Speaker 1: important you know, and tell us when you come back.

1777
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 1: Also just how we can recognize it. It's trauma. Family,

1778
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:53,720
Speaker 1: We're going deep this morning with brother Sadeka Bakari. You

1779
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 1: is right. The last time got a lot of response

1780
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 1: from what he did the last time around, So we're

1781
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:00,360
Speaker 1: going to go even deeper today. As I may cob

1782
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 1: a couple of friends and tell them that the brother

1783
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 1: Sadeki is on the radio. They'll appreciate it. And this

1784
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:07,080
Speaker 1: man we've got to step aside. At seventeen after the

1785
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:09,479
Speaker 1: time that we're back with brother Sideki and your phone calls.

1786
01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 1: You got a question, reach out to us at eight

1787
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 1: hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy sixty.

1788
01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 1: We'll take those calls next and Grand Rising family, thanks

1789
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:19,040
Speaker 1: for rolling by us on this Wednesday morning at twenty

1790
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:20,920
Speaker 1: one minutes after the top of there. I guess there

1791
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 1: is a future research. It does a lot of research

1792
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 1: and not on the superficial level when it comes to

1793
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:29,720
Speaker 1: AI artificial intelligence. Your name is Sadeka Bakari, and like

1794
01:46:29,840 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 1: I said, listen really really Kenny what he's explaining to

1795
01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:35,600
Speaker 1: you how artificial intelligence AI, what they do and how

1796
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 1: it works, because it can't work without you. So, brother Sadeka,

1797
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 1: you tell us about the fear aspect and sometimes that

1798
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:44,600
Speaker 1: fear can be way back when we were children. But

1799
01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:47,040
Speaker 1: how do we recognize that? First, if you can explain,

1800
01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:49,599
Speaker 1: how do we recognize the fear? Actually I do recognize

1801
01:46:49,600 --> 01:46:50,559
Speaker 1: how do we know that it's fear?

1802
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 4: Okay, So trauma and fear. Further of are your again,

1803
01:46:56,040 --> 01:47:00,760
Speaker 4: let me make this distinction for people, how very real

1804
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:05,720
Speaker 4: to your being or your body? Okay, so again you

1805
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 4: have new age people who talk about fears and illusion

1806
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 4: and all these other things. Is made up in your

1807
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 4: mind and all these other things. Now, just be very

1808
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 4: clear your body, regardless of whether it is made up

1809
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:20,360
Speaker 4: in your mind, if it is something that is really

1810
01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 4: happening in quote unquote reality, so to speak. The bottom

1811
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 4: line is your body has a response. Okay, that's the

1812
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:35,240
Speaker 4: main thing I want everyone listening to understand. Your body

1813
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:39,799
Speaker 4: has a response to trauma, to fear, the many different

1814
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:43,599
Speaker 4: things that it encompasses. From a standpoint of trauma in fear,

1815
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 4: all right, so this is a process that your body

1816
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 4: undergoes when you deal with it. Now, let me go

1817
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:53,519
Speaker 4: back to the example, the example that I was giving

1818
01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 4: from a standpoint of childhood trauma so to speak, or

1819
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:59,679
Speaker 4: even adult trauma. So let's say you have childhood trauma

1820
01:47:59,720 --> 01:48:02,680
Speaker 4: at the age of ten, this becomes adult trauma. Now,

1821
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:06,720
Speaker 4: let me be clear if this is unhealed and unresolved

1822
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:11,400
Speaker 4: trauma that you experienced as a child as an adult

1823
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 4: thirty forty, fifty, sixty seventy years old. If that trauma

1824
01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:21,200
Speaker 4: has not been dealt with, if it's still unhealed, still unresolved,

1825
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 4: you're still a slave to the experience, the memory of it, emotionally, hormonally,

1826
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 4: how your central nervous system is out of alignment because

1827
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:35,840
Speaker 4: of it, the memory aspect of it, the triggers, the

1828
01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:39,679
Speaker 4: stimuli that may trigger it, all of those things. That's

1829
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:45,800
Speaker 4: part of the process. From an emotional standpoint. Every time

1830
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:49,320
Speaker 4: you have to re encounter that trauma for whatever reason,

1831
01:48:51,560 --> 01:48:56,720
Speaker 4: you are ten years old. Again, your emotional maturity is

1832
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:59,800
Speaker 4: that of the ten year old that dealt with that

1833
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:04,519
Speaker 4: experience of trauma. But whatever the situation was. That's what

1834
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:07,680
Speaker 4: we have to understand. This is why people react the

1835
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 4: way they react when they deal with certain situations as adults.

1836
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 4: It's because they have never dealt with the trauma that

1837
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:19,960
Speaker 4: existed as a child. All right, that's important for people

1838
01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 4: to understand. Now, I've given a list before of characteristics

1839
01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:31,280
Speaker 4: that people can see and witness within themselves or other

1840
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:39,839
Speaker 4: people that are attributes of trauma and unresolved, unhealed trauma,

1841
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:42,760
Speaker 4: fear that the memory of it, the experience of it,

1842
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:44,640
Speaker 4: and things of that nature, and what I'm going to

1843
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 4: do is come back and I'm going to define trauma

1844
01:49:47,400 --> 01:49:50,640
Speaker 4: for people. That may help even more. But some of

1845
01:49:50,760 --> 01:49:54,639
Speaker 4: these things that people deal with on a daily basis,

1846
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:57,599
Speaker 4: or you see other people, you experience it through other

1847
01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:00,640
Speaker 4: people or yourself. Normally it's through other people because most

1848
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 4: people won't see it in themselves. They won't see the

1849
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 4: reflection in the mirror that they're dealing within themselves. All right,

1850
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:12,400
Speaker 4: But over reactions, okay, people who are defensive, people who

1851
01:50:12,479 --> 01:50:17,599
Speaker 4: have control issues, people who are overbearing, people who hold resentment,

1852
01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:22,480
Speaker 4: people who are unforgiving, people who have low self esteem, insecurities,

1853
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:27,719
Speaker 4: self sabotage, all these different things. People who are overly

1854
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:32,680
Speaker 4: they deal with sarcasm and in a way that is

1855
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:41,599
Speaker 4: out of control, that's hit and pain. So all these things, immaturity, entitlement, pettiness, right,

1856
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 4: people who make excuses all the time. And I'll get

1857
01:50:44,120 --> 01:50:46,640
Speaker 4: into complaining before we get in the show and how

1858
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:49,320
Speaker 4: that relates to trauma and fear and what that does,

1859
01:50:50,520 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 4: because as a people, we've become complainers, whether it's personal

1860
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:56,560
Speaker 4: or whether it's a people that's a trauma response. So

1861
01:50:56,640 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 4: we got to deal with that as well. People who

1862
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:02,800
Speaker 4: have in zie, people who deal with depression like these

1863
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:08,240
Speaker 4: are all aspects of this motherboard of what trauma creates

1864
01:51:08,479 --> 01:51:12,240
Speaker 4: or what trauma manifests. Passive aggressiveness, people who are spiteful,

1865
01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:17,360
Speaker 4: people who are stubborn, people who constantly whine, constantly complain, stagnation,

1866
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 4: lack of focus, being distracted, hormonal imbalances, these are all

1867
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 4: aspects of results of trauma. Okay, emotional numbers, numbness, uncontrollable reactions,

1868
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 4: lack of discipline, lack of consistency. So those are all

1869
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:39,840
Speaker 4: attributes or characteristics. All right, Now, let's backtrack. Let's go.

1870
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:44,479
Speaker 4: Let's backtrack so people can understand what we're talking about. Now.

1871
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 4: I want people to understand traumas not just what you

1872
01:51:48,000 --> 01:51:53,759
Speaker 4: experience personally. So say the childhood, that childhood experience that happened.

1873
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:59,280
Speaker 4: It's so much more than that. If you are here

1874
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:06,040
Speaker 4: the so called United States, you have a traumatic disposition

1875
01:52:06,280 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 4: that you've dealt with, whether you realize it or not.

1876
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:11,160
Speaker 4: Because you have people who think, oh, well, what is

1877
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:13,240
Speaker 4: this brother talking about. I don't have trauma? Yes you do.

1878
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 4: You watch your television all day, you have trauma. You

1879
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:19,680
Speaker 4: watch the news all day, you have trauma? All right,

1880
01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:23,479
Speaker 4: but this is a definition. Trauma is defined as disturbing

1881
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:32,120
Speaker 4: or distressing events or experiences that affects and damages the mind, spirit, soul, emotions, neurology,

1882
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:36,640
Speaker 4: and the subconscious mind. Trauma is also defined as an

1883
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:42,639
Speaker 4: emotional response to a terrible event, emotional distress, and mental

1884
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 4: challenges resulting from a traumatic event, which can include the

1885
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:54,120
Speaker 4: experience of physical trauma, severe emotional trauma to a stressful

1886
01:52:54,240 --> 01:52:58,960
Speaker 4: event that overwhelms a person's ability to cope and to

1887
01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:05,559
Speaker 4: process it emotionally, leading to PTSD post traumatic stress disorder. Now,

1888
01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:08,719
Speaker 4: let's be clear, the majority of people still don't understand

1889
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:14,240
Speaker 4: what COVID was or is that's traumatic? All right? You've

1890
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:20,599
Speaker 4: been through a traumatic situation, all right? Nine to eleven, Right,

1891
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 4: All these different things are traumatic events that people have

1892
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:28,040
Speaker 4: been through, and the majority of people still don't understand

1893
01:53:28,479 --> 01:53:33,320
Speaker 4: what nine to eleven was. But emotionally they felt the impact.

1894
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 4: Psychologically they felt the impact, all right. So nine to eleven, terrorism, COVID,

1895
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:43,920
Speaker 4: or the so called plandemic, war, racism, so called elections,

1896
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:48,320
Speaker 4: Hurricane Katrina, all of these are examples of traumatic events,

1897
01:53:48,439 --> 01:53:51,120
Speaker 4: things that happened outside of us that you may have

1898
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:56,400
Speaker 4: not thought personally affected you. All right. So these are

1899
01:53:56,520 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 4: all aspects of trauma. And again your body process is

1900
01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 4: these things, and it's algorithmic, it's a pattern, all right,

1901
01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 4: it's ritualistic, all right, it is pathological, and of course

1902
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:11,559
Speaker 4: they use media and things of that nature to make

1903
01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:16,920
Speaker 4: sure that they are imprinting this into your being. All right.

1904
01:54:17,560 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 4: So these are things that we have to make sure

1905
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 4: that we understand. I said I was going to get

1906
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:24,519
Speaker 4: into this notion right there.

1907
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean for a second right there, brother sneak at film,

1908
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 1: and it's off the top because if from hearing what

1909
01:54:30,160 --> 01:54:32,760
Speaker 1: you're saying, then all of us have had some sort

1910
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 1: of trauma in our lives.

1911
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1912
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 1: Doctor joid De group talked about it in that book

1913
01:54:37,000 --> 01:54:40,400
Speaker 1: Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome. So so what you're saying, it's

1914
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 1: in our DNA from our ancestors.

1915
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:46,920
Speaker 4: That's part of it. That's definitely part of it. So

1916
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:51,000
Speaker 4: let me let me say this. When we talk about

1917
01:54:51,080 --> 01:54:54,080
Speaker 4: the premordial aspect or essence of who and what we are,

1918
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 4: trauma is not part of that program, all right, It's

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Speaker 4: not part of our program to to problem is a

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Speaker 4: notion of who and what we are, or fear is

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Speaker 4: a notion of who are what we are. These are

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Speaker 4: programs that we ultimately or experiences that we ultimately end

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Speaker 4: up being part of, all right, So they become memories

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Speaker 4: and experiences, but ultimately that's not the essence or genome

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Speaker 4: of who are what we are as as a standpoint

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Speaker 4: of a blockchain, it becomes part of that blockchain through

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Speaker 4: human interfacing and things of that nature. So just so

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Speaker 4: we're clear, all right, But yes, so that becomes part

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Speaker 4: of who and what we are in the programming and

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Speaker 4: of course everything that we need to deal with it

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Speaker 4: that exists within us as well if we know how

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Speaker 4: to tap into it. So that's definitely part of the

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Speaker 4: metadata and meta information at this point of what it

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Speaker 4: is that we're.

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Speaker 1: Dealing with, all right, because then that involves all of

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Speaker 1: us then, because.

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Speaker 4: Well, yes, absolutely right, absolutely so your mother is passed on,

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Speaker 4: So how do we deal with though?

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Speaker 1: Brother sadiki?

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Speaker 4: Okay, So before we get to that, because Carl, it's

1941
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Speaker 4: things that I know are people deal with pathologically, all right.

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Speaker 4: So that's the reason I'm kind of working the way

1943
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Speaker 4: I'm working with it so we can deal with it.

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Speaker 4: But I will give something let me.

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Speaker 10: Just do that.

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Speaker 4: I'll give some things right now that people can do.

1947
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Speaker 4: But there has to be a deprogramming and a reprogramming,

1948
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Speaker 4: all right, there has to be. If that's not happening,

1949
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Speaker 4: people will not do the things that I'm going to

1950
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Speaker 4: give people that they can do, all right. Let me

1951
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:47,160
Speaker 4: be clear when I say it. That's why I mentioned earlier.

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Speaker 4: The first thing a person has to do is to

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Speaker 4: admit that they have these issues. And oftentimes a person

1954
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Speaker 4: does not want to admit these things. Why because that

1955
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Speaker 4: means they have to do something, whether it's personal meaning

1956
01:57:01,480 --> 01:57:04,280
Speaker 4: within themselves, something they have to deal with from a

1957
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Speaker 4: standpoint of trauma, fear, whatever, all of those things that

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Speaker 4: I listed are So people don't deal with those things,

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Speaker 4: all right, because they can't deal with that marrior, They

1960
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Speaker 4: can't deal with that reflection. Now, even if it's external.

1961
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Speaker 4: People know that there's things that they need to deal with,

1962
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Speaker 4: but they do not deal with it because that means

1963
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Speaker 4: they have to do something. So, whether that is on

1964
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Speaker 4: a political realm, the educational round, whatever realm we're talking about,

1965
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Speaker 4: the spiritual realm, if there's work to do, most people

1966
01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 4: will ignore whatever that issue is. The trauma, the response

1967
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Speaker 4: of the trauma, the stimuli, the memory, whatever it is,

1968
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Speaker 4: so called solutions, whatever it is. People refuse to deal

1969
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 4: with it, all right, So they'll keep doing the same

1970
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:58,400
Speaker 4: thing over and over again, thinking that they're going to

1971
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Speaker 4: get different results, that they're actually healing, but in essence

1972
01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:07,800
Speaker 4: they're not healing. What they're actually doing is strengthening those

1973
01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:12,640
Speaker 4: neuropathways that's related to the trauma, all right. They're imprinting

1974
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:18,880
Speaker 4: more and more what that traumatic memory is, or the

1975
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Speaker 4: experience of it, the reaction of it, because that's what

1976
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Speaker 4: the hormones do, that's what the brain does, that's what

1977
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:30,320
Speaker 4: the neurons do, that's what the central nervous does. So

1978
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Speaker 4: all those things, again, they're systemic, so they operate in

1979
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Speaker 4: a certain way, and you're not going to bypass the

1980
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Speaker 4: way that these things operate. That's why the work has

1981
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Speaker 4: to be done. Now let me answer your question, Carl,

1982
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Speaker 4: So what are things that we can do? Number One,

1983
01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 4: you have to confront the trauma or the fear. People

1984
01:58:51,440 --> 01:58:53,440
Speaker 4: nowadays in the New Age movement are telling you to

1985
01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:56,760
Speaker 4: ignore it and not deal with it. Why would you

1986
01:58:56,800 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 4: want to bring it back up? Well, it's going to

1987
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:02,360
Speaker 4: come back up regardless. You cannot stop it from coming

1988
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Speaker 4: back up. So until you begin to deal with it appropriately,

1989
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Speaker 4: it will continue to come up as it desires because

1990
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Speaker 4: your body or your being is always going to do

1991
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Speaker 4: what it needs to do for you to transform yourself

1992
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Speaker 4: or heal yourself or whatever the situation is. All right,

1993
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Speaker 4: you have to calm your central nervous system. So there's

1994
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Speaker 4: things that you can do to calm your central nervous system.

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Speaker 4: Some of those things I'm going to mention here. You

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Speaker 4: have to change disagreeable thoughts. Thought has a lot to

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Speaker 4: do with what's happening internally in your body. Simply what

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Speaker 4: you think. This is why I've always stated that the

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Speaker 4: war is on and for your mind. So simply what

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Speaker 4: you think. Your thinks or your thought excuse me, are

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Speaker 4: based off of programming. Most people aren't thinking their own thoughts,

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Speaker 4: they're thinking program thoughts. All right. You have to rewire, restructure,

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Speaker 4: and reconst struct your subconscious mind, your subconscious mind. Most

2004
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Speaker 4: people are. You're subservient and oppressed by your subconscious mind. Again,

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Speaker 4: when you deal with subconscious conscious mind, you're not just

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Speaker 4: dealing with thoughts. You're dealing with everything that you come

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Speaker 4: into contact with. That's a subconscious mind. It cannot be

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Speaker 4: bypassed or overridden. It's taking in everything. You cannot stop

2009
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Speaker 4: it from taking in music, you can't stop it from whatever.

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Speaker 4: The programming is, the signs, the symbols, the colors, you

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Speaker 4: can't stop that from entering your being. Now, of course,

2012
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Speaker 4: there's things that you can do once that happens. And

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Speaker 4: programming in regards to the subconscious mind is based off

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Speaker 4: of pathology. So whatever it takes in the most is

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Speaker 4: ultimately what it operates off of, all right. Reducing stress

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Speaker 4: and anxiety. Most people are slaves to stress and anxiety,

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Speaker 4: but mainly stress. Toxic stress is going to cause anxiety,

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Speaker 4: it's going to cause depression, it's going to cause all

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Speaker 4: the things that comes with that. All right, So you

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Speaker 4: can do things ritualistically that will help as far as

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Speaker 4: you know, dealing with your central nervous system, the different

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Speaker 4: systems of your body, meditation, but that's these are things

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Speaker 4: that you have to do consistently. So if you're doing

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Speaker 4: meditation is something you have to do consistently, If you're

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Speaker 4: doing visualization is something that you have to do consistently.

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Speaker 4: If you're changing disagreeable thoughts to agreeable thoughts or thoughts,

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Speaker 4: that will work for you you have to do it consistently.

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Speaker 4: If you're journaling, this is something that you have to

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Speaker 4: do consistently. Exercises, if you're doing exercises, physical exercises and

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Speaker 4: things of that. Nature has to be something that you're

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Speaker 4: doing consistently. If you're walking in nature and doing the

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Speaker 4: nature things that helps bring calm and peace to your

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Speaker 4: central nervous system. That will help with trauma and depression

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Speaker 4: and anxiety.

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Speaker 1: Brothers. Yeah, holds all right there, brother say, we got

2036
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Speaker 1: to step aside for a few months. When we come back, though,

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Speaker 1: is the same thing what you're doing, like self medicating

2038
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Speaker 1: if you're doing drugs and drink sex line, is it

2039
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Speaker 1: the same thing? You respond to that when we come back,

2040
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Speaker 1: But you're doing it yourself, but you don't know why

2041
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Speaker 1: you're doing it. You're self medicating yourself. I'll let you

2042
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Speaker 1: explain that when we get back. Family, you two can

2043
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Speaker 1: join our conversation with brother Sadeka Bakari. Reach out to

2044
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Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy

2045
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Speaker 1: six and we'll take all your phone calls. Next and

2046
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Speaker 1: Grand Rising family, thanks for rolling with us on this

2047
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Speaker 1: Wednesday morning with our guest, the brother Sadeka Bakari and

2048
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Speaker 1: as I mentioned, it's going real deep this morning. Again,

2049
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Speaker 1: I rearge. You call up a couple of friends and

2050
02:02:40,680 --> 02:02:44,120
Speaker 1: tell them the brother Sadeka's on the radio. They'll appreciate it. Tomorrow,

2051
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Speaker 1: we're going to be here tomorrow for sure, and we'll

2052
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Speaker 1: be drawn by talented researcher, future researcher brother Katia Water.

2053
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Speaker 1: Also natural practic doctor doctor Barruk will be here. Doctor

2054
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Speaker 1: Baru also a restaurant tour in the DMV.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 1: So if you're up in the morning, join us right

2057
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Speaker 1: here in Baltimore on WLB and also in the DMV.

2058
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Speaker 1: I'm fourteen fifty wol. We'll take us with you. If

2059
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Speaker 1: you're going to traveling and with Grandma friends for the

2060
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Speaker 1: holiday tomorrow, take us with it. Just download the appen

2061
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Speaker 1: and you can hear us all day long as well.

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Speaker 1: Brilla Siniki again back to you. Know these issues that

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Speaker 1: you talked about, some of us trying to self medicate.

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Speaker 1: This is what leads to addiction, whether it be drink, drugs, alcohol,

2065
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Speaker 1: you know, alcohol, sex, whatever, line, whatever is just the

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Speaker 1: cause of those those addictions. What you tell us about

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Speaker 1: how to combat this fear, this trauma, that we had

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Speaker 1: in our earlier lives.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, absolutely can be. That is definitely a rabbit hole.

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Speaker 4: That could be many different things, but it's definitely one

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Speaker 4: way or another related to trauma and the motherboard that

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Speaker 4: we are talking about trauma as a supercomputer, so to speak,

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Speaker 4: So that that's definitely something that a person would like

2074
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Speaker 4: to note because again, it's about not facing or dealing

2075
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Speaker 4: with whatever those traumas may be that they have, whether

2076
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Speaker 4: it's door childhood, whether it's adulthood, whether it's relative to

2077
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Speaker 4: traumatic events outside of them, whatever it's related to, is

2078
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Speaker 4: just some way or another, not wanting to deal with

2079
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Speaker 4: whatever it is that needs to be dealt with. So

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Speaker 4: again we're talking about unhealed memory and metadata, So you're

2081
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Speaker 4: talking aboutnhaled trauma, unresolved trauma. So that's what we're talking

2082
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Speaker 4: about and everything that comes with that, the experiences, the memories,

2083
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Speaker 4: the reactions, the stimuli that triggers the memories, the triggers

2084
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Speaker 4: the experiences, and things of that nature. So keep in

2085
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Speaker 4: mind when you deal with trauma or whatever it is

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Speaker 4: that we're dealing with, we are the metadata, so to speak.

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Speaker 4: Metadata is what houses information, So we're the metadata, are right,

2088
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Speaker 4: the meta information or the information is what's how So

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Speaker 4: when we deal with our central nervous system that houses information,

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Speaker 4: when you deal with the brain, when you deal with blood,

2091
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Speaker 4: when you deal with the cells, all these different things,

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Speaker 4: how's information? Our subconscious mind houses information?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 4: Now, this is important for people to understand. We've always

2095
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Speaker 4: heard is a person emotionally intelligent? Now, if you reallydo

2096
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Speaker 4: and understood what we're dealing with, that's actually a very

2097
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Speaker 4: ignorant statement. It's not about if a person it's emotionally intelligent,

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Speaker 4: because emotions are a byproduct of your hormones. So as

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Speaker 4: a person hormonally intelligent, all right, that's really what we

2100
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Speaker 4: should be asking ourselves because if you understand how your

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Speaker 4: hormones work, and how that's related to your emotions, how

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Speaker 4: that's related to your central nervous system, how that's related

2103
02:05:52,520 --> 02:05:55,720
Speaker 4: to your brain, all of those things, you better understand

2104
02:05:56,160 --> 02:05:58,640
Speaker 4: the trauma that you're dealing with and what it causes

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Speaker 4: and what it creates. Hormones are chemical messengers that are

2106
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Speaker 4: secreted directly into the blood. Any of various chemicals made

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Speaker 4: by living cells carried around the body in the blood.

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Speaker 4: Messenger molecules in the body So basically, the hormones are messages,

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Speaker 4: all right. It's like sending text messages, so to speak,

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Speaker 4: all over your body to the particular systems that guess

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Speaker 4: what it guess what they do. They control emotion, they

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Speaker 4: control your reactions. So when you talk about hormones like cortisol,

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Speaker 4: so to speak, all right, So cortis are when you

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Speaker 4: deal with this this hormone, you're going to be dealing

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Speaker 4: with these reactionary type of attributes and characteristics because of

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Speaker 4: that hormone level that's caused by fear, that's caused by trauma,

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Speaker 4: that's caused by re experiencing trauma, the memories, the trauma

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Speaker 4: bonding that people deal with, complaining consistently or pathologically, these

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Speaker 4: are the things that taps into quarters are or taps

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Speaker 4: into the part of the brain called the amygdula, all right.

2121
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Speaker 4: The amygdula is where trauma, fear, complaining, and those type

2122
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Speaker 4: of things are actually housed in processed, and then it

2123
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Speaker 4: goes to the various parts of the body that it

2124
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Speaker 4: needs to go to. That's going to cause anxiety, that's

2125
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Speaker 4: going to cause depression, that's going to cause the reactions

2126
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Speaker 4: that people see because of a person dealing with trauma, fear,

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Speaker 4: and the many other things that a person may be

2128
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Speaker 4: dealing with. So people often see the end results, but

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Speaker 4: they don't understand the process to get to the end results.

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Speaker 4: And it's important for people to understand this because the system,

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Speaker 4: though that ninety nine percent of people is probably a

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Speaker 4: number that high, has absolutely no idea how their body

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Speaker 4: operates in the process that the bodies go through from

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Speaker 4: a standpoint of programming, because they're programming you constantly, so

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Speaker 4: they understand how you're going to react to the programming

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Speaker 4: based on the programming that they're giving you. Trauma based programming,

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Speaker 4: fear based programming, emotional based programming, psychological operations. They're all related,

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Speaker 4: all right, and they all work hand in hand. So

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Speaker 4: this is what they are doing to you as a

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Speaker 4: person when you cut on the television, all right, when

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Speaker 4: they create these false narratives, when you deal with these

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Speaker 4: different staged events and things of that nature, they understand

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Speaker 4: what it is doing to you and what it is

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Speaker 4: causing you on a hormonal level, on a level of

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Speaker 4: your cells and your memory, and in printing these memories

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Speaker 4: and printing or creating stimuli, it taps into the trauma

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Speaker 4: that you have dealt with throughout your whole life. Why

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Speaker 4: do you think when you turn on the television you

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Speaker 4: see things like rape scenes and abuse and all these

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Speaker 4: other things on these shows and in these movies and

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Speaker 4: things of that nature, Why do you think that is

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Speaker 4: a current, a currently pathologically running thing in what you

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Speaker 4: are watching on wherever you're watching it. Same thing with

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Speaker 4: the news. That's intentional. They understand what they are tapping into,

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Speaker 4: all right. Now, that's to keep you a slave to

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Speaker 4: yourself and a slave to the system. Even though you

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Speaker 4: think you may be fighting for something, until you are

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Speaker 4: actually fighting to free yourself internally, what are you really

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Speaker 4: fighting Because you're going to be a slave to the

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Speaker 4: programming one way or another. And that's what people need

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Speaker 4: to understand, all right. The complaining, complaining, pathological complaining, taps

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Speaker 4: into trauma, fear, and things of that nature. It creates

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Speaker 4: a particular type of energy. You're dealing with energy when

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Speaker 4: you deal with trauma. You're dealing with frequency when you

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Speaker 4: deal with trauma, all right. And this is why I

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Speaker 4: was saying, it's a parasitic when you deal with Trauma's

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Speaker 4: parasitic in nature. Also with trauma bonds with that type

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Speaker 4: of energy, as well as as other type of toxic energies,

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Speaker 4: entities and things of that nature, because these things lash

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Speaker 4: on energetically. So what's happening when a person is constantly complaining,

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Speaker 4: You are constantly igniting that imgdolah, all right, that part

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Speaker 4: of the brain that again I just dealt with what

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Speaker 4: that does. So it sends the signals to the different

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Speaker 4: parts of the body, and then the body operates as such,

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Speaker 4: whether that's fight or flight, you know, whatever, whatever it

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Speaker 4: may be, whether that's anger, whether that's rage, whether that's depression, whatever,

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Speaker 4: the attribute attached to that specific trauma that that person

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Speaker 4: has dealt with will ultimately create. All right. So complaining

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Speaker 4: rewires the brain, so people understand, it rewires the brain.

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Speaker 4: Trauma rewires the brain, Fear rewires the brain, all right.

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Speaker 4: So one minute of negative talk floods the brain with

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Speaker 4: corders are that strengthens fear and trauma pathways. All right.

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Speaker 4: As I mentioned again, complaints trigger that i'mgdoulah, all right.

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Speaker 4: It sends messages of danger and you they may not

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Speaker 4: be danger, but that's how that part of the brain works,

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Speaker 4: all right. So it floods the body with cortisol, which

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Speaker 4: is a stress hormone. It creates ours of hormonal chaos. Ours.

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Speaker 4: People need to understand this. This is what your body

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Speaker 4: is doing when you keep talking about and I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: use this as an example, Trump Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump,

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Speaker 4: and what Trump is doing and what Trump is not doing.

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Speaker 4: Guess what that does. It floods the body with cortisol.

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Speaker 4: It's a stress hormone that creates hours of hormonal chaos.

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Speaker 4: So now your essential nervous system, all these different systems

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Speaker 4: are now not in alignment. You understand what this is doing,

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Speaker 4: not only to your emotional state, but what is doing

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Speaker 4: to your organs, to your cells. This is how it operates,

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Speaker 4: all right. Now listen to this. Your brain copies other

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Speaker 4: people stress in three minutes, all right. This is based

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Speaker 4: on mirror neurons. It's called mirror neurons. Your brain copies

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Speaker 4: other people's stress in three minutes. So if you sitting there,

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Speaker 4: listen to somebody that can plan, complain, complain over and

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Speaker 4: over my job, my job, my job, my job, what's

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Speaker 4: going on at my job? My job? This person, this person,

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Speaker 4: this person, this person, my mother, my mother, my mother,

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Speaker 4: my mother, all of that. Three minutes of that, all right? Now,

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Speaker 4: your beingness has now incorporated that energy. It copied it,

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Speaker 4: it mirrored it. Now you've become that energy. This is

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Speaker 4: the reason you have to understand who's good for you

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Speaker 4: being around you energetically. This is why you have to

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02:13:33,280 --> 02:13:38,080
Speaker 4: make decisions about who's around you, because you literally become

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Speaker 4: them based on science and dealing with the brain and

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Speaker 4: neurons and energy, you become them energetically. All right, complainers,

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Speaker 4: let me be clear. Energy vampires. And when I say that,

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Speaker 4: understand I mean people who complain over and over and

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Speaker 4: over again and do nothing. That's what I'm That's what

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Speaker 4: I'm saying. These are energy vampires because they have not

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Speaker 4: dealt with the unhealed the trauma. So it's unhealed, it's unresolved.

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Speaker 4: All right, Again, this is a motherboard of technology. This

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Speaker 4: is an algorithm. This is why a person continues to

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Speaker 4: do it over and over again. The time has power.

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Speaker 4: It can be agreeable or disagreeable. A person who continues

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Speaker 4: to complain over and over again about the same thing

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Speaker 4: and does nothing, that is a disagreeable power, and it

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Speaker 4: creates in the universe just like it creates the person

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Speaker 4: that continues to listen to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me jumpin first because what you're saying is

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Speaker 1: really important. That's why we always end the show tell

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Speaker 1: people stay strong and stay healthy and stay positive, always

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Speaker 1: stay positive. But those people that you're talking about, brother Siineki,

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Speaker 1: many of them don't know. If they don't know, if

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Speaker 1: they're negative. You have a conversation and like you said,

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Speaker 1: everything is negative, and they wonder why you don't return

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Speaker 1: their calls, So don't have a conversation with them, or

2235
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Speaker 1: or you know, keep them, keep them, give them along

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Speaker 1: length and you know, keep them away because it's so niggative.

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Speaker 1: Everything is just negative, just complaining about people and everything

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Speaker 1: in the world is wrong. You know, they're like, wow, man,

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Speaker 1: but they don't. They don't. And I say that because

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Speaker 1: it happens to one person. I says, is there anything

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Speaker 1: good happening the a lot? I says, just just roll

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Speaker 1: back the conversation we had. Everything was just negative. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing positive. You have nothing, And I don't want to

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Speaker 1: get that contaminated with that kind of negative energy. So

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Speaker 1: you know, you try to stay away from those perfecture

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Speaker 1: always complaining. But what do you do though, other than

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02:15:39,520 --> 02:15:42,480
Speaker 1: you know, leave them on first base and you keep running.

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Speaker 1: What do you do with those folks.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's what you have to do, because this is

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Speaker 4: why I'm talking about this. So people understand when you

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Speaker 4: how neurons mirror each other or themselves. So now you're

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Speaker 4: mirroring the neurons of someone else as far as them

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Speaker 4: being complain is. Now obviously there's the other side of

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Speaker 4: this as well, all right. People who are agreeable and

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Speaker 4: positive and motivated and powerful, you're gonna mirror that too,

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Speaker 4: all right, But we're talking about the other side of

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Speaker 4: it that's related to trauma, fear, and all those other things,

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Speaker 4: all right. So this is a cycle, and people need

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Speaker 4: to understand it. This is a cycle, all right. Complaining

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Speaker 4: gets you quartisol reaction. You're igniting quartisol, all right, which

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Speaker 4: is gonna take you into memory loss, which is going

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Speaker 4: to take you into fear response or trauma response, which

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Speaker 4: is going to take you into more complaining. That's pathological.

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Speaker 4: So you have repetition of complaining that becomes a pathology

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Speaker 4: or a have it that becomes a behavior. All right. Now,

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Speaker 4: let's just be honest when we look at our people

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Speaker 4: in general, that's what we're dealing with. You can give

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Speaker 4: people solutions all day, they will keep complaining. This is

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Speaker 4: why I don't listen to people who ask, what's the solution?

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Speaker 4: Number one is not one solution number two. Chances are,

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Speaker 4: what I've experienced is those people who's asking for solutions

2272
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Speaker 4: are never part of the solution, nor do they want

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Speaker 4: to be part of the solution. All right, it's just talk, okay.

2274
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Speaker 4: But this complaining is a cycle complaining from a standpoint

2275
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Speaker 4: of it's connection to trauma, it's connection to fear. The i'mmgdoulah,

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Speaker 4: and how these things operate your central nervous system, all right,

2277
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Speaker 4: how it rewires the brain too. In other words, it's

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Speaker 4: when I say rewire the brain, just so people can

2279
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Speaker 4: kind of understand it in a simpler way. Primarily, what

2280
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Speaker 4: it's doing is it's creating and calling the same energy

2281
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Speaker 4: over and over and over again. That's why you get

2282
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Speaker 4: to complaining. Like the subconscious mind, so to speak, if

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Speaker 4: you keep telling yourself I can't do it, well, guess

2284
02:18:17,240 --> 02:18:20,000
Speaker 4: what your subconscious mind is going to be in alignment

2285
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Speaker 4: with you, saying and thinking and quote unquote believing that

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Speaker 4: you can't do it.

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Speaker 1: All right, for a few moments, so our stations can

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Speaker 1: identify themselves down the line. Per the FCC, and we

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Speaker 1: got some folks who want to talk to you as well.

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Speaker 1: I probably I'll share a question, share what my experience

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Speaker 1: is when it's being positive. Two minutes away from the

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Speaker 1: time of our family like to speak to our guess

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Speaker 1: brother Sadeka, Butcar reach out to us at eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and

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Speaker 1: we'll take your phone calls next and grand Rising family,

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Speaker 1: thanks for staying with us on this Wednesday morning. I

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Speaker 1: guess there's brother Sudeka, but Car's future's degree searcher. And

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Speaker 1: I said us contably within our share this with you

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Speaker 1: because it's a private conversation. But I'm gonna share with

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Speaker 1: you anyway because this is how we started. I talked

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Speaker 1: about ending the show as things stay positive and also

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Speaker 1: said stay in the light. We had doctor Welson on

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Speaker 1: one day and Doctor Wilson was taking calls from the listeners.

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Speaker 1: This is in LA and they're all complaining, you know,

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Speaker 1: just one after the other. So when we got to

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Speaker 1: the commercial Stevine calls it says, I need to talk

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Speaker 1: to doctor Welson. What's wrong with our folks? Why why

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Speaker 1: are they complaining so much? And what brother Sidiki said

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Speaker 1: is what Dr Welson told Steve, and Steve goes, well,

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Speaker 1: we've got to turn that around. We've got to get

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Speaker 1: our people to to be more positive, you know, and

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Speaker 1: he just basically says, which you've got to do figure

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Speaker 1: out a way to you know. That's why I always

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Speaker 1: helped employ people to stay positive and people like what

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02:19:45,640 --> 02:19:48,680
Speaker 1: brothers Sideka's talking about. The negative folks that come without

2316
02:19:48,760 --> 02:19:52,080
Speaker 1: negative energy. Just stay away from them, man, just if

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02:19:52,120 --> 02:19:55,000
Speaker 1: they keep calling you and knocking other people and trying

2318
02:19:55,040 --> 02:19:56,840
Speaker 1: to put people down and all that kind of stuff,

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02:19:57,280 --> 02:19:59,320
Speaker 1: leave them in the left field. Don't. Don't. Don't get

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Speaker 1: involved with him, get involved in all that kind of negativity.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's what I was, you know, contemplating share.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that's was and that's why we try to

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Speaker 1: do it on this program. That's why I say it

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Speaker 1: every time we get in the program. You know, stay positive,

2325
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Speaker 1: stay strong, stay put, and stay healthy, and we should

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Speaker 1: say stay in the light as well. So that's that's

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Speaker 1: where that came from. That conversation between doctor Wilson and

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Speaker 1: Stevie Wonder, That's that's what it came from. And this

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Speaker 1: is but I don't hear as much as negative because

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Speaker 1: I guess you keeps saying it every day. From these

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Speaker 1: particular listeners, it quite there's a few call up trying to,

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Speaker 1: you know, be negative, but for the most part, most

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Speaker 1: of our listens, I got to say, are very positive,

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Speaker 1: always forward thinking. But you're right, there are some people

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Speaker 1: like that in your life and may be in your family.

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02:20:39,640 --> 02:20:41,920
Speaker 1: You may be even married to it, maybe your children.

2337
02:20:42,240 --> 02:20:43,800
Speaker 1: So you've got to figure a way to turn and

2338
02:20:43,879 --> 02:20:47,320
Speaker 1: once you once they see you being positive, it rubs

2339
02:20:47,360 --> 02:20:50,400
Speaker 1: off on them because that negative energy can't scan fight

2340
02:20:50,480 --> 02:20:54,040
Speaker 1: against being positive. So that that's my two cents there, Brothers.

2341
02:20:54,760 --> 02:20:57,000
Speaker 1: I'll let you finish your thoughts calls from these.

2342
02:20:56,920 --> 02:21:01,320
Speaker 4: Folks before we do that. Carl, So, hormones, and the

2343
02:21:01,400 --> 02:21:04,200
Speaker 4: reason I'm dealing with hormones is because we didn't last show,

2344
02:21:04,520 --> 02:21:06,400
Speaker 4: and it's still a ton of things we haven't dealt with,

2345
02:21:06,480 --> 02:21:09,600
Speaker 4: the vagist nerve, the central nervous system, the olympic system,

2346
02:21:09,640 --> 02:21:15,560
Speaker 4: all of that. However, hormones are chemicals. So you mentioned addiction,

2347
02:21:17,400 --> 02:21:20,920
Speaker 4: hormones and chemicals, So again you're talking about a pathology,

2348
02:21:21,400 --> 02:21:24,840
Speaker 4: you're talking about algorithms, you're talking about a process. So

2349
02:21:25,040 --> 02:21:31,039
Speaker 4: people who continuously tap into certain hormones, which are chemicals.

2350
02:21:31,360 --> 02:21:34,160
Speaker 4: They're going to be an addiction. So people are addicted

2351
02:21:34,280 --> 02:21:40,680
Speaker 4: to what quartersoll creates or what adrenaline creates, so they're

2352
02:21:40,720 --> 02:21:44,440
Speaker 4: addicted to those chemicals because again it's a pathology. So

2353
02:21:44,560 --> 02:21:47,400
Speaker 4: the reactions that you see from people, whether that's complaining,

2354
02:21:48,200 --> 02:21:52,120
Speaker 4: being quote unquote negative, or whatever it is, is related

2355
02:21:52,200 --> 02:21:58,200
Speaker 4: to those chemicals or hormones being tapped into the majority

2356
02:21:58,240 --> 02:22:00,320
Speaker 4: of the time. This is why I mentioned in the

2357
02:22:00,360 --> 02:22:05,040
Speaker 4: beginning of the show hormonal markers or neurological markers, or

2358
02:22:05,160 --> 02:22:10,800
Speaker 4: memory markers, or biomarkers, biofingerprints, trackers, all these different things

2359
02:22:11,160 --> 02:22:15,720
Speaker 4: biometric signals. These are signals. So this is the signal

2360
02:22:16,040 --> 02:22:20,760
Speaker 4: that's constantly being created in a person due to trauma,

2361
02:22:21,200 --> 02:22:24,359
Speaker 4: due to the response of trauma, due to trauma bonding,

2362
02:22:24,640 --> 02:22:27,720
Speaker 4: because that's what you're dealing with with people who have

2363
02:22:27,879 --> 02:22:31,760
Speaker 4: a complaining spirit or nature so to speak. They're looking

2364
02:22:31,879 --> 02:22:35,440
Speaker 4: to trauma bond. Whether it's conscious or unconscious, they're looking

2365
02:22:35,560 --> 02:22:39,000
Speaker 4: to trauma bond. That's what that's about, all right. That

2366
02:22:39,160 --> 02:22:43,240
Speaker 4: type of toxic parasitic energy needs a host, so that's

2367
02:22:43,280 --> 02:22:47,680
Speaker 4: what you're dealing with. So again, when you deal with hormones.

2368
02:22:48,040 --> 02:22:51,200
Speaker 4: You are dealing with chemicals. This is why I'm saying

2369
02:22:51,640 --> 02:22:56,240
Speaker 4: you are a slave to yourself or your body if

2370
02:22:56,280 --> 02:23:00,560
Speaker 4: you don't understand how your body operates. This is why

2371
02:23:00,640 --> 02:23:02,200
Speaker 4: I do what I do, and I'm doing all the

2372
02:23:02,280 --> 02:23:05,320
Speaker 4: things and I'm doing and trauma motherboard of technology and

2373
02:23:05,360 --> 02:23:08,640
Speaker 4: the mirror of unhealed memory and metadata. That's why I

2374
02:23:08,720 --> 02:23:11,680
Speaker 4: write these books for people to go to these books,

2375
02:23:12,280 --> 02:23:15,359
Speaker 4: and the things that we're talking about are further explained

2376
02:23:15,480 --> 02:23:17,120
Speaker 4: in these books. This is why I do the one

2377
02:23:17,200 --> 02:23:20,880
Speaker 4: on ones and help people every day to deal with

2378
02:23:21,040 --> 02:23:24,520
Speaker 4: these things. That's the reason I do these things, all right.

2379
02:23:24,680 --> 02:23:28,000
Speaker 4: So it's much deeper than we ever could imagine. You

2380
02:23:28,160 --> 02:23:31,400
Speaker 4: mentioned the surface, you know, when we first began in

2381
02:23:31,480 --> 02:23:35,560
Speaker 4: this conversation, and we're so surface level on so many

2382
02:23:35,680 --> 02:23:40,520
Speaker 4: things that it ultimately is affecting us and decisions that

2383
02:23:40,640 --> 02:23:43,600
Speaker 4: we make, not only as individuals, but as a community

2384
02:23:43,720 --> 02:23:46,720
Speaker 4: or as a people. It's affecting us in our everyday lives.

2385
02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:52,600
Speaker 4: The dependency, codependency and not having self reliance, not having

2386
02:23:52,640 --> 02:23:56,040
Speaker 4: self determination, all of these are related to being a

2387
02:23:56,320 --> 02:23:59,840
Speaker 4: people who are unhealed and have not resolved trauma and

2388
02:24:00,320 --> 02:24:03,200
Speaker 4: that nature many of your healers, and I listen, I'm

2389
02:24:03,280 --> 02:24:06,199
Speaker 4: just telling you straight. Many of your healers are not healed,

2390
02:24:07,160 --> 02:24:10,840
Speaker 4: you understand, or not even going through the process of healing.

2391
02:24:11,160 --> 02:24:13,600
Speaker 4: Many of your teachers, same thing. So we have a

2392
02:24:13,680 --> 02:24:16,840
Speaker 4: lot of people that's not that's in the forefront out here,

2393
02:24:17,240 --> 02:24:21,400
Speaker 4: that's not dealing with their trauma and their fears and

2394
02:24:21,520 --> 02:24:24,119
Speaker 4: all these other things. And I want people to understand something.

2395
02:24:26,040 --> 02:24:26,600
Speaker 15: The issue.

2396
02:24:26,840 --> 02:24:30,240
Speaker 4: The issue is not trauma or fear. The issue is

2397
02:24:30,280 --> 02:24:34,320
Speaker 4: that we're not dealing with it. That's the issue. Fear

2398
02:24:34,400 --> 02:24:36,680
Speaker 4: is not the issue. If you deal with your fears,

2399
02:24:37,879 --> 02:24:39,920
Speaker 4: then what needs to come out of that will. If

2400
02:24:40,000 --> 02:24:42,000
Speaker 4: you deal with your trauma, what needs to come out

2401
02:24:42,040 --> 02:24:47,200
Speaker 4: of that will. The problem is we're not dealing with it. Okay, Carl,

2402
02:24:47,480 --> 02:24:48,039
Speaker 4: let's let's go.

2403
02:24:48,080 --> 02:24:50,440
Speaker 1: To call us before the cause. It got a call

2404
02:24:50,480 --> 02:24:52,920
Speaker 1: from our truck drivers. You know a family, you know,

2405
02:24:53,000 --> 02:24:54,520
Speaker 1: a shout out of a truck drivers. There's a bunch

2406
02:24:54,520 --> 02:24:56,200
Speaker 1: of truck drives out in the Middle West and listened

2407
02:24:56,240 --> 02:25:01,199
Speaker 1: to us. They used to listen to the Cerrus XM.

2408
02:25:02,000 --> 02:25:05,560
Speaker 1: When Joe Madison said so after his demise, they started

2409
02:25:05,600 --> 02:25:07,760
Speaker 1: listening to us. There's a whole bunch of them. Then

2410
02:25:07,800 --> 02:25:09,520
Speaker 1: they listened all the time. But anyway, one called in.

2411
02:25:09,600 --> 02:25:13,160
Speaker 1: The student called Kevin. She's delivering cars in Chicago, it says,

2412
02:25:13,840 --> 02:25:16,480
Speaker 1: and brother snik. He says after about the negative people

2413
02:25:16,560 --> 02:25:18,280
Speaker 1: on the job, how do you deal with negative people

2414
02:25:18,320 --> 02:25:18,760
Speaker 1: on the job?

2415
02:25:20,320 --> 02:25:26,000
Speaker 4: Okay, Being that you're in a situation and you're dealing

2416
02:25:26,040 --> 02:25:30,800
Speaker 4: with this constantly, now let me say this too. First

2417
02:25:30,840 --> 02:25:34,880
Speaker 4: of all, you have choices. People have options. I always

2418
02:25:35,000 --> 02:25:37,680
Speaker 4: have to say this because people act as if they

2419
02:25:37,879 --> 02:25:41,800
Speaker 4: have to stay on a particular job. Right, there's options,

2420
02:25:42,879 --> 02:25:46,520
Speaker 4: there's other situations that could exist. We choose to stay

2421
02:25:46,600 --> 02:25:50,920
Speaker 4: in the same situation, right. But again, this is about

2422
02:25:51,000 --> 02:25:55,040
Speaker 4: being solution oriented. A solution oriented person will not stay

2423
02:25:55,280 --> 02:25:59,800
Speaker 4: in a negative quote unquote environment. They're going to figure

2424
02:25:59,800 --> 02:26:02,600
Speaker 4: out out how to get out of that environment. But okay,

2425
02:26:03,000 --> 02:26:06,880
Speaker 4: so you're in that environment in real time, right, how

2426
02:26:06,920 --> 02:26:10,640
Speaker 4: do you deal with negative people at your job? The

2427
02:26:10,720 --> 02:26:13,040
Speaker 4: way you deal with negative people is not dealing with

2428
02:26:13,160 --> 02:26:17,800
Speaker 4: negative people. You deal with yourself. You deal with how

2429
02:26:17,920 --> 02:26:21,120
Speaker 4: you respond to negative people. That's what you have to

2430
02:26:21,160 --> 02:26:24,520
Speaker 4: deal with, all right. I have exercises for that and

2431
02:26:24,640 --> 02:26:26,960
Speaker 4: things of that nature, But you have to actually go

2432
02:26:27,120 --> 02:26:31,080
Speaker 4: through the exercise with me or the tool to understand

2433
02:26:31,360 --> 02:26:33,600
Speaker 4: actually what it is and what it does. But I

2434
02:26:33,720 --> 02:26:37,160
Speaker 4: do have exercises to assist people to be able to

2435
02:26:37,240 --> 02:26:40,640
Speaker 4: deal with people in those particular situations. Again, it's about

2436
02:26:40,760 --> 02:26:46,840
Speaker 4: your mindset, not theirs. You can't change people. You can

2437
02:26:46,959 --> 02:26:51,960
Speaker 4: only change yourself. You can't change how people respond or

2438
02:26:52,040 --> 02:26:55,720
Speaker 4: how people act, but you can change how you respond, react,

2439
02:26:56,520 --> 02:26:59,280
Speaker 4: or whatever the situation is. So you have to master

2440
02:26:59,440 --> 02:27:02,960
Speaker 4: your own thoughts, in your own emotions. That's how this works.

2441
02:27:03,040 --> 02:27:07,240
Speaker 4: It's not about the other person or other people, all right. Now,

2442
02:27:07,320 --> 02:27:12,000
Speaker 4: a person who masters himself herself their thoughts, their emotions,

2443
02:27:12,120 --> 02:27:17,720
Speaker 4: or their hormones hormonal intelligence over emotional intelligence, right, then

2444
02:27:17,800 --> 02:27:22,959
Speaker 4: that person first and foremost will outcreate that situation, meaning

2445
02:27:23,440 --> 02:27:26,120
Speaker 4: they will create and manifest something that's going to get

2446
02:27:26,200 --> 02:27:30,080
Speaker 4: them out of that situation that continues to be pathologically

2447
02:27:31,040 --> 02:27:36,560
Speaker 4: disagreeable or so called negative. That's the solution, all right,

2448
02:27:36,640 --> 02:27:39,520
Speaker 4: you get out of that situation. However, you can get

2449
02:27:39,560 --> 02:27:41,720
Speaker 4: out of that situation, and I mean that may take time,

2450
02:27:41,800 --> 02:27:43,920
Speaker 4: of course, but why would you want to stay in

2451
02:27:44,000 --> 02:27:48,119
Speaker 4: an environment just disagreeable or negative? See, So the question

2452
02:27:48,320 --> 02:27:50,080
Speaker 4: comes to the person that has to deal with it

2453
02:27:50,720 --> 02:27:53,120
Speaker 4: all right. So again, that's what it means to be

2454
02:27:53,200 --> 02:27:55,800
Speaker 4: a so called god or god, that's whatever terms people

2455
02:27:55,879 --> 02:27:59,760
Speaker 4: use for themselves. Then that's what it takes you outcreate

2456
02:27:59,800 --> 02:28:01,800
Speaker 4: the situation. You don't become a slave to it.

2457
02:28:04,760 --> 02:28:05,040
Speaker 1: Got it?

2458
02:28:05,200 --> 02:28:05,240
Speaker 5: You?

2459
02:28:05,360 --> 02:28:07,240
Speaker 1: Letting after the top of let's go. A bunch of

2460
02:28:07,240 --> 02:28:09,000
Speaker 1: folks want to talk to you from across the country.

2461
02:28:09,080 --> 02:28:12,119
Speaker 1: Let's let's stop for us in Waldorf, Maryland. The brother

2462
02:28:12,200 --> 02:28:14,600
Speaker 1: Callie is there online one Brother College. A question for

2463
02:28:15,120 --> 02:28:15,879
Speaker 1: brother Sadiki.

2464
02:28:17,160 --> 02:28:22,160
Speaker 18: Yeah, thank you, my dear brothers and grand rising brother Sadiki.

2465
02:28:23,040 --> 02:28:26,560
Speaker 18: Based on what you have seen, what you said, you know,

2466
02:28:27,240 --> 02:28:30,200
Speaker 18: we we African Americans have I've read in the Belly

2467
02:28:30,280 --> 02:28:33,760
Speaker 18: of the Beast, and really we should we should be

2468
02:28:33,800 --> 02:28:36,400
Speaker 18: in insane in the insane asylum. You know, that's just

2469
02:28:36,480 --> 02:28:39,720
Speaker 18: a general comment. But I wanted to ask you to

2470
02:28:39,879 --> 02:28:43,320
Speaker 18: relate if you could. Sigmund Freud put out a theory

2471
02:28:43,480 --> 02:28:46,600
Speaker 18: about the ego, I mean, the end the ego and

2472
02:28:46,760 --> 02:28:51,760
Speaker 18: the super ego uh and and his studies and can

2473
02:28:51,840 --> 02:28:54,760
Speaker 18: you relate to what you're saying to that or give

2474
02:28:54,879 --> 02:28:58,959
Speaker 18: us a deeper insight into that? Do you think that's

2475
02:28:59,520 --> 02:29:00,360
Speaker 18: relevant today?

2476
02:29:01,240 --> 02:29:04,959
Speaker 4: My dear brother, Yeah, I can. I do my best

2477
02:29:05,080 --> 02:29:13,720
Speaker 4: to stay away from Western psychologists or science and how

2478
02:29:13,800 --> 02:29:18,640
Speaker 4: they view the mind or psychology and things of that nature.

2479
02:29:19,120 --> 02:29:25,120
Speaker 4: So let's look at the ego. The way I deal

2480
02:29:25,160 --> 02:29:27,840
Speaker 4: with the ego is this, it is part of us

2481
02:29:27,920 --> 02:29:31,480
Speaker 4: for a reason, right, So the ego is our lower self.

2482
02:29:32,160 --> 02:29:32,280
Speaker 10: Right.

2483
02:29:33,240 --> 02:29:35,200
Speaker 4: We want to operate in the higher self as much

2484
02:29:35,200 --> 02:29:38,640
Speaker 4: as possible, but the ego being the lower self at

2485
02:29:38,760 --> 02:29:42,840
Speaker 4: times is very necessary, even from a standpoint of protection.

2486
02:29:43,160 --> 02:29:45,920
Speaker 4: It's your ego that's going to protect you, right, But

2487
02:29:46,080 --> 02:29:49,920
Speaker 4: we want to hire self to be in control, so

2488
02:29:50,160 --> 02:29:53,560
Speaker 4: to speak, of the ego, so the ego doesn't run rapid.

2489
02:29:55,360 --> 02:29:56,760
Speaker 4: So that's the way I kind of look at that.

2490
02:29:57,360 --> 02:30:00,520
Speaker 4: I'm from a standpoint of dealing with the ego. As

2491
02:30:00,600 --> 02:30:04,960
Speaker 4: long as the ego so to speak, is not in

2492
02:30:05,120 --> 02:30:09,480
Speaker 4: full control, then the ego can be dealt with. And

2493
02:30:09,600 --> 02:30:12,400
Speaker 4: I think that's something we need to understand. Like, for example,

2494
02:30:12,440 --> 02:30:15,840
Speaker 4: when you deal with European psychology so to speak, or

2495
02:30:15,879 --> 02:30:22,400
Speaker 4: Western psychology, they tend to think that when you deal

2496
02:30:22,480 --> 02:30:27,800
Speaker 4: with this notion of humility or being humble and arrogance

2497
02:30:27,959 --> 02:30:31,600
Speaker 4: and things of that nature, and how they tie arrogance

2498
02:30:32,760 --> 02:30:36,039
Speaker 4: to ego, so they use particular terms, so people don't

2499
02:30:36,080 --> 02:30:41,000
Speaker 4: really understand what these aspects of our body mean. So

2500
02:30:41,160 --> 02:30:45,200
Speaker 4: instead of confidence or passion, it becomes arrogance. Right, So

2501
02:30:45,360 --> 02:30:49,040
Speaker 4: that's something that they don't want us to have, you understand,

2502
02:30:49,520 --> 02:30:51,760
Speaker 4: Yet they operate as much as they can in the

2503
02:30:51,840 --> 02:30:54,160
Speaker 4: things that they don't desire for us to have. So

2504
02:30:54,280 --> 02:30:55,960
Speaker 4: that's what it is. I think that we need to

2505
02:30:56,080 --> 02:30:59,400
Speaker 4: understand from a standpoint of the ego, and you know

2506
02:30:59,480 --> 02:31:04,120
Speaker 4: how the ego operates. It's kind of like when I

2507
02:31:04,520 --> 02:31:09,000
Speaker 4: hear our people talk about the forty eight Laws of Power,

2508
02:31:09,160 --> 02:31:12,360
Speaker 4: Robert Green and his books that's related to the forty

2509
02:31:12,400 --> 02:31:16,040
Speaker 4: eight Laws of power. But we have a book in

2510
02:31:16,440 --> 02:31:22,280
Speaker 4: our work library of consciousness, so to speak, that goes

2511
02:31:22,400 --> 02:31:27,560
Speaker 4: back to ancient KMMCK or what some people call Egypt

2512
02:31:28,040 --> 02:31:33,240
Speaker 4: that relates to how we should deal with people from

2513
02:31:33,280 --> 02:31:36,520
Speaker 4: a standpoint of leadership and power, and how we should

2514
02:31:36,520 --> 02:31:39,760
Speaker 4: deal with morals and values and ethics, as opposed to

2515
02:31:40,560 --> 02:31:42,520
Speaker 4: when you deal with something like the forty eight Laws

2516
02:31:42,560 --> 02:31:46,720
Speaker 4: of power, how it deals with manipulation and you know

2517
02:31:47,360 --> 02:31:50,960
Speaker 4: those types of things, right, So there's a difference in

2518
02:31:51,760 --> 02:31:55,320
Speaker 4: how we're looking at something from a spiritual perspective versus

2519
02:31:55,440 --> 02:31:59,080
Speaker 4: how we're looking at something from a primarily a three

2520
02:31:59,240 --> 02:32:06,080
Speaker 4: D since material perspective, so to speak. So the Book

2521
02:32:06,120 --> 02:32:09,960
Speaker 4: of Peta Hotel, I think we need to be, you know,

2522
02:32:10,080 --> 02:32:14,080
Speaker 4: from a standpoint of psychology more tapped into on the moral, ethical,

2523
02:32:14,200 --> 02:32:17,000
Speaker 4: spiritual side of it, and how that relates to leadership,

2524
02:32:17,080 --> 02:32:19,760
Speaker 4: how that relates to power, how that relates to those

2525
02:32:19,800 --> 02:32:22,400
Speaker 4: type of things. And I'm showing people the difference so

2526
02:32:22,480 --> 02:32:25,440
Speaker 4: we can understand because I hear I often hear our

2527
02:32:25,480 --> 02:32:27,640
Speaker 4: people talk about the forty eight laws of power, which

2528
02:32:27,800 --> 02:32:31,200
Speaker 4: lets me know that primarily you just want to operate

2529
02:32:31,320 --> 02:32:37,360
Speaker 4: in a Western European uh thought process or ideology versus

2530
02:32:37,480 --> 02:32:42,600
Speaker 4: an ideology that's more healthy and more beneficial to our being.

2531
02:32:43,840 --> 02:32:44,720
Speaker 4: Hope that answer, And.

2532
02:32:44,959 --> 02:32:46,959
Speaker 1: They still and they stole there from us as well.

2533
02:32:47,320 --> 02:32:48,960
Speaker 1: This is the other part that you should be you know,

2534
02:32:49,120 --> 02:32:52,440
Speaker 1: from from my eyes, that's all the you know, the

2535
02:32:52,520 --> 02:32:55,040
Speaker 1: Sigmund Freud. They stole all of that from our people,

2536
02:32:55,120 --> 02:32:58,960
Speaker 1: from our ancestors, absolutely right, and every writer as if

2537
02:32:59,000 --> 02:33:03,879
Speaker 1: they're own. But that's right. But sometimes you gotta have family, right,

2538
02:33:04,120 --> 02:33:06,280
Speaker 1: We got to dig a little deeper, you know, And

2539
02:33:06,360 --> 02:33:08,560
Speaker 1: then they take the credit like they invented it, they

2540
02:33:08,640 --> 02:33:09,920
Speaker 1: came up with it. Yeah.

2541
02:33:11,120 --> 02:33:15,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what I'm saying ego is ego is a

2542
02:33:15,320 --> 02:33:19,680
Speaker 4: problem when when you don't understand ego and understand it

2543
02:33:19,879 --> 02:33:24,720
Speaker 4: controls you, that's when ego becomes a problem. All right,

2544
02:33:24,800 --> 02:33:26,640
Speaker 4: But you have a higher self and a lower self.

2545
02:33:26,959 --> 02:33:29,200
Speaker 4: You have a lower self for a reason, but it's

2546
02:33:29,240 --> 02:33:33,520
Speaker 4: your higher self that you want running the show in

2547
02:33:33,680 --> 02:33:35,160
Speaker 4: Layman's terms, that's how that works.

2548
02:33:36,560 --> 02:33:38,120
Speaker 1: All right. Hold that though right there, we gotta step

2549
02:33:38,120 --> 02:33:40,240
Speaker 1: aside for a few moments. We'll come back. Family, you

2550
02:33:40,440 --> 02:33:43,120
Speaker 1: want to join this conversation and get in on this discussion.

2551
02:33:43,120 --> 02:33:45,480
Speaker 1: You got a question. I hope you really get deep

2552
02:33:45,560 --> 02:33:47,480
Speaker 1: now because this is one of these programs that you

2553
02:33:47,640 --> 02:33:49,800
Speaker 1: have to think. Now, one of these things is just

2554
02:33:49,959 --> 02:33:52,520
Speaker 1: you know, superficient kind of thing you over talk, yes,

2555
02:33:52,640 --> 02:33:54,720
Speaker 1: A and B and no. This is real deep. I

2556
02:33:54,840 --> 02:33:57,400
Speaker 1: hope you're enjoying it. Sixteen after the top of the hour,

2557
02:33:57,400 --> 02:33:58,800
Speaker 1: are you going to get in And here's the number

2558
02:33:58,840 --> 02:34:02,520
Speaker 1: to go eight hundred four five zero seventy eight seventy

2559
02:34:02,560 --> 02:34:05,400
Speaker 1: six and we'll take your phone calls next and grand

2560
02:34:05,520 --> 02:34:07,200
Speaker 1: rising family in thanks, are staying with us on this

2561
02:34:07,280 --> 02:34:09,800
Speaker 1: Wednesday morning, twenty minutes after the time for that with

2562
02:34:09,920 --> 02:34:12,960
Speaker 1: our guess the brother Sadeka Bakari is a futuristic researcher.

2563
02:34:13,080 --> 02:34:15,280
Speaker 1: He's laid out the plant. What are your thoughts? Eight

2564
02:34:15,400 --> 02:34:18,360
Speaker 1: hundred and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six

2565
02:34:18,520 --> 02:34:21,480
Speaker 1: gens in Pikesville, Maryland is online too, Grand Rising GUNI

2566
02:34:21,480 --> 02:34:22,520
Speaker 1: you're on with brother Sadiki.

2567
02:34:24,840 --> 02:34:29,600
Speaker 19: Gentlemen, Brother Sidiki, you you mentioned spiritualism and my call

2568
02:34:29,720 --> 02:34:33,280
Speaker 19: is centered around My question is center around religion, specifically

2569
02:34:34,000 --> 02:34:41,080
Speaker 19: being from Maryland. The Calvitz and their idea of religious

2570
02:34:41,360 --> 02:34:44,080
Speaker 19: freedom originated in Maryland.

2571
02:34:44,160 --> 02:34:44,720
Speaker 4: But it is.

2572
02:34:46,280 --> 02:34:51,160
Speaker 19: Limited in a sense that it literally only applies.

2573
02:34:50,800 --> 02:34:52,360
Speaker 4: To those who believe in the.

2574
02:34:54,080 --> 02:34:54,440
Speaker 1: What is it?

2575
02:34:54,520 --> 02:35:00,480
Speaker 4: The Father? The Father, the Holy Ghost? What's the trinity?

2576
02:35:01,240 --> 02:35:02,440
Speaker 1: The Sun?

2577
02:35:03,879 --> 02:35:06,040
Speaker 4: What's the trinity? I apologize.

2578
02:35:06,959 --> 02:35:12,160
Speaker 19: And said Father, I said, so it's based on a trinity.

2579
02:35:12,720 --> 02:35:14,600
Speaker 19: And we know for a fact that if it's based

2580
02:35:14,640 --> 02:35:20,519
Speaker 19: on a trinity, it's leaving out other spiritual beliefs, systems.

2581
02:35:21,000 --> 02:35:23,600
Speaker 4: And so so that you know, this is where we are,

2582
02:35:23,840 --> 02:35:24,520
Speaker 4: and I think that this.

2583
02:35:24,680 --> 02:35:28,400
Speaker 19: Is the you know, the agenda, the hidden agenda, and

2584
02:35:28,560 --> 02:35:32,160
Speaker 19: the control mechanism that's in place so that we can't

2585
02:35:32,640 --> 02:35:36,160
Speaker 19: be you know, what you are explaining in references, you know,

2586
02:35:37,200 --> 02:35:37,840
Speaker 19: being in peace.

2587
02:35:38,080 --> 02:35:39,080
Speaker 4: So I just wanted to say that.

2588
02:35:39,160 --> 02:35:42,840
Speaker 19: To people because a lot of times we're playing a

2589
02:35:42,920 --> 02:35:45,280
Speaker 19: game and we don't know the rules, and I just

2590
02:35:45,360 --> 02:35:47,200
Speaker 19: want to make sure that we understand that that rule

2591
02:35:47,320 --> 02:35:50,520
Speaker 19: is in play, and this is what we're trying to overcome.

2592
02:35:51,640 --> 02:35:53,720
Speaker 1: Okay, just give me a chance to respond. Thanks Gene.

2593
02:35:55,440 --> 02:36:00,360
Speaker 4: Excellent, Okay, excellent. I appreciate the comment. So let's talk

2594
02:36:00,400 --> 02:36:04,760
Speaker 4: about spiritual technology. All right. So when we talk about religion,

2595
02:36:04,879 --> 02:36:07,560
Speaker 4: which I'm not going to talk about, that's something that's external,

2596
02:36:08,040 --> 02:36:10,840
Speaker 4: that's something that someone gave you. Now let's talk about

2597
02:36:10,920 --> 02:36:17,279
Speaker 4: spiritual technology. Spiritual technology is part of your motherboard of technology,

2598
02:36:17,600 --> 02:36:21,080
Speaker 4: the supercomputer, the genome of who and what you are,

2599
02:36:21,440 --> 02:36:25,160
Speaker 4: all right, That spiritual technology. Religion has nothing to do

2600
02:36:25,360 --> 02:36:29,040
Speaker 4: with your imagination. It has nothing to do with intuition,

2601
02:36:29,520 --> 02:36:31,960
Speaker 4: It has nothing to do with the central nervous system

2602
02:36:32,040 --> 02:36:33,960
Speaker 4: and all the things that we've been talking about, your

2603
02:36:34,040 --> 02:36:37,960
Speaker 4: neurological self neurons, things of that nature. All right, this

2604
02:36:38,200 --> 02:36:42,800
Speaker 4: is something that you are born with, all right, That

2605
02:36:42,959 --> 02:36:46,360
Speaker 4: you are born with. This is algorithmic, This is not

2606
02:36:46,440 --> 02:36:53,959
Speaker 4: a belief system. This is science. This is proven. You understand.

2607
02:36:54,320 --> 02:36:56,840
Speaker 4: You don't have to believe in your central nervous system.

2608
02:36:57,040 --> 02:36:59,480
Speaker 4: You don't have to have faith in your central nervous system.

2609
02:37:00,120 --> 02:37:02,320
Speaker 4: Have to deal with hope in your central nervous system

2610
02:37:02,600 --> 02:37:07,120
Speaker 4: or your your imagination or your intuition. All right, this

2611
02:37:07,320 --> 02:37:09,680
Speaker 4: is a power, This is a force. This is the

2612
02:37:09,800 --> 02:37:11,920
Speaker 4: source of who in what you are, and it's connected

2613
02:37:12,240 --> 02:37:15,440
Speaker 4: to the source of beingingness, to the source of the all,

2614
02:37:15,840 --> 02:37:19,160
Speaker 4: to the source of nature, to the source of the universe.

2615
02:37:19,440 --> 02:37:21,840
Speaker 4: This is what you are connected to and tapped into.

2616
02:37:22,320 --> 02:37:24,880
Speaker 4: This is who in what you are. If there was

2617
02:37:25,040 --> 02:37:27,880
Speaker 4: never a book, you would still be this. You overstand.

2618
02:37:28,480 --> 02:37:31,400
Speaker 4: This is why I'm dealing with what I'm dealing with,

2619
02:37:31,760 --> 02:37:35,200
Speaker 4: because it is trauma and it is fear that's corrupted.

2620
02:37:35,280 --> 02:37:38,400
Speaker 4: This mother board of technology, this mother board of consciousness

2621
02:37:38,760 --> 02:37:46,600
Speaker 4: that exists within you. And I'm using this term loosely,

2622
02:37:46,680 --> 02:37:49,520
Speaker 4: but everyone will have an idea of what I'm talking about.

2623
02:37:50,360 --> 02:37:53,320
Speaker 4: This is the quote unquote God that exists within you.

2624
02:37:53,840 --> 02:37:57,360
Speaker 4: This is that consciousness, that awareness, that technology, that the

2625
02:37:57,520 --> 02:38:03,480
Speaker 4: algorithmic blueprint. That's what you are. So that's why we're

2626
02:38:03,520 --> 02:38:06,360
Speaker 4: dealing with trauma, and I write these books on trauma

2627
02:38:06,760 --> 02:38:09,920
Speaker 4: and fear then all the things that we have to

2628
02:38:10,040 --> 02:38:16,440
Speaker 4: deal with so that we can tap back into that self,

2629
02:38:17,560 --> 02:38:20,720
Speaker 4: so we can tap back into these so called messiahs

2630
02:38:20,760 --> 02:38:24,360
Speaker 4: and prophets. So whomever that exists within you, you don't

2631
02:38:24,440 --> 02:38:28,480
Speaker 4: have to look outside yourself. You are that that exists

2632
02:38:28,520 --> 02:38:32,560
Speaker 4: within you when you're operating in that essence. But it's

2633
02:38:32,600 --> 02:38:35,640
Speaker 4: the fear, it's the trauma, it's the programming, it's the

2634
02:38:35,959 --> 02:38:40,320
Speaker 4: psychological operations, it's all of those different things that we're

2635
02:38:40,400 --> 02:38:46,400
Speaker 4: dealing with on a daily basis that's deterring people from

2636
02:38:46,480 --> 02:38:49,960
Speaker 4: being able to tap into this essence or this greatness

2637
02:38:50,080 --> 02:38:53,280
Speaker 4: that exists within us, all right, The fear programming, the

2638
02:38:53,400 --> 02:38:57,080
Speaker 4: mind control, the mind manipulation, that's subliminal messaging, the thought reform,

2639
02:38:57,200 --> 02:39:02,160
Speaker 4: the brainwashing, the controlled opposition, the information overload, the cohersion,

2640
02:39:02,240 --> 02:39:07,320
Speaker 4: the emotional programming, the predictive programming, the behavioral modification, thought engineering,

2641
02:39:07,520 --> 02:39:13,400
Speaker 4: the art of distraction, double speak, Stockholm syndrome, controlled opposition, charismatics, manipulation,

2642
02:39:13,600 --> 02:39:19,240
Speaker 4: cognitive dissonance, confirmation bias, emotional hijacking, victim consciousness, false narratives,

2643
02:39:19,520 --> 02:39:25,760
Speaker 4: all these different things that feeds itself and plays itself

2644
02:39:25,840 --> 02:39:29,920
Speaker 4: out in all these different areas of human experience or

2645
02:39:30,000 --> 02:39:33,800
Speaker 4: so called people activity, all right, and religion is one

2646
02:39:33,840 --> 02:39:37,200
Speaker 4: of those aspects, just so we clear, So focus on

2647
02:39:37,320 --> 02:39:41,760
Speaker 4: spiritual technology. That's where your greatness is, that's where your

2648
02:39:41,800 --> 02:39:45,120
Speaker 4: divinity is, that's where your healing is. You have to

2649
02:39:45,200 --> 02:39:49,600
Speaker 4: go inside to even begin to understand what's going on

2650
02:39:49,800 --> 02:39:53,480
Speaker 4: outside of you. So I don't have to speak against anything.

2651
02:39:53,920 --> 02:39:57,039
Speaker 4: Just go inside yourself. You go inside yourself. That's where

2652
02:39:57,080 --> 02:39:59,800
Speaker 4: your answers are. You don't need to ask chat GPT.

2653
02:40:00,680 --> 02:40:03,200
Speaker 4: Chat GPT is a program. All you have to do

2654
02:40:03,400 --> 02:40:07,040
Speaker 4: is go within yourself to find the answer. Once a

2655
02:40:07,120 --> 02:40:10,760
Speaker 4: person says to me, I ask chat GPT, the conversation ends.

2656
02:40:11,320 --> 02:40:13,080
Speaker 4: If you didn't ask yourself, we don't need to have

2657
02:40:13,160 --> 02:40:19,160
Speaker 4: a conversation. This is a spiritual awakening that we're talking about.

2658
02:40:19,240 --> 02:40:22,760
Speaker 4: This is a spiritual technology that we're talking about. That's

2659
02:40:22,879 --> 02:40:28,240
Speaker 4: the future, is our spiritual awakening and tapping into that technology.

2660
02:40:29,760 --> 02:40:33,439
Speaker 4: The other technology is so that you don't tap into yourself,

2661
02:40:34,040 --> 02:40:36,519
Speaker 4: so you become more of a slave to the technology.

2662
02:40:36,720 --> 02:40:39,240
Speaker 4: So you become more of a slave to all of

2663
02:40:39,360 --> 02:40:44,800
Speaker 4: this third dimensional low vibration, low frequency consciousness, politics, and

2664
02:40:44,840 --> 02:40:47,320
Speaker 4: all these other things that's low vibration and low frequency

2665
02:40:48,400 --> 02:40:51,800
Speaker 4: as opposed to us being in a high frequency and

2666
02:40:51,959 --> 02:40:55,879
Speaker 4: creating and manifesting. You wouldn't have to complain about anything

2667
02:40:56,000 --> 02:40:58,320
Speaker 4: that anyone else or the government is doing if you

2668
02:40:58,440 --> 02:41:01,160
Speaker 4: were doing what you're supposed to be doing. How about that?

2669
02:41:04,080 --> 02:41:06,240
Speaker 4: That cal all right?

2670
02:41:06,360 --> 02:41:08,680
Speaker 1: Twenty eight after the top of that, let's go to Baltimore.

2671
02:41:08,760 --> 02:41:12,039
Speaker 1: Sister Sheena's on line five, Grand Rising Sister Shina, your

2672
02:41:12,120 --> 02:41:13,759
Speaker 1: question for a brother Sadiki.

2673
02:41:14,480 --> 02:41:18,240
Speaker 14: Grand Rising brother calling your team and Brother Isa Kei King,

2674
02:41:19,400 --> 02:41:21,360
Speaker 14: I tell you you just brought you usher to be

2675
02:41:21,480 --> 02:41:24,480
Speaker 14: into the presence of my spirit this morning, because that's

2676
02:41:24,520 --> 02:41:27,000
Speaker 14: what I told so many people doing the Maryland most

2677
02:41:27,000 --> 02:41:29,360
Speaker 14: of initiative. This is bigger than Maryland. This is a

2678
02:41:29,520 --> 02:41:33,280
Speaker 14: spiritual fight. And that's why brother Paul, we love you

2679
02:41:33,440 --> 02:41:37,800
Speaker 14: so much in your team because your show it doesn't

2680
02:41:38,160 --> 02:41:42,480
Speaker 14: allow us to complain. It allows us to explain and

2681
02:41:43,080 --> 02:41:46,760
Speaker 14: see what it is that we can do to intercept

2682
02:41:46,840 --> 02:41:50,760
Speaker 14: these demonic forces that is trying to destroy our people.

2683
02:41:51,240 --> 02:41:53,680
Speaker 4: And so I love you both, and you know you.

2684
02:41:53,800 --> 02:41:55,400
Speaker 14: Kind of when you brought that to that, Brother just

2685
02:41:55,480 --> 02:41:57,360
Speaker 14: now and it just took me right to the spirit realm,

2686
02:41:57,640 --> 02:42:00,600
Speaker 14: because that's what I tell people as we was building

2687
02:42:00,760 --> 02:42:04,640
Speaker 14: this initiative to intercept what's happening to not only just

2688
02:42:04,760 --> 02:42:07,160
Speaker 14: knowing about our community. When you look at the propaganda

2689
02:42:07,200 --> 02:42:09,879
Speaker 14: that's put out on the Baltimore Collegiate School for Boys

2690
02:42:09,920 --> 02:42:13,920
Speaker 14: who let brothers over there doing beautiful things for our community. See,

2691
02:42:14,000 --> 02:42:18,080
Speaker 14: we must understand. Our assignment is to come in and

2692
02:42:18,240 --> 02:42:22,199
Speaker 14: as you say, brothers and teaching, build ourselves up, walk

2693
02:42:22,280 --> 02:42:26,160
Speaker 14: in truth, and that way we can accept all the propaganda.

2694
02:42:26,680 --> 02:42:30,000
Speaker 14: And so I just called to thank you because this

2695
02:42:30,200 --> 02:42:32,760
Speaker 14: is what it's going to take, because we are more

2696
02:42:32,959 --> 02:42:35,240
Speaker 14: powerful than what these Stevens are.

2697
02:42:36,360 --> 02:42:38,080
Speaker 13: But we must build ourselves up.

2698
02:42:38,320 --> 02:42:42,920
Speaker 14: We must believe that we have what it takes to

2699
02:42:43,160 --> 02:42:48,240
Speaker 14: change ourselves, our communities and our schools.

2700
02:42:47,959 --> 02:42:48,360
Speaker 4: And all of that.

2701
02:42:48,640 --> 02:42:50,960
Speaker 14: So I love you girls. I just thank you, And

2702
02:42:51,200 --> 02:42:52,960
Speaker 14: that's all I wanted to call in and say, you know,

2703
02:42:53,160 --> 02:42:57,040
Speaker 14: because I just know that we're going to be victorious

2704
02:42:57,160 --> 02:42:59,879
Speaker 14: because and I do people come and they say negative things.

2705
02:43:00,000 --> 02:43:03,280
Speaker 14: I said, hold on, I don't believe that, And so

2706
02:43:03,480 --> 02:43:06,320
Speaker 14: that's how we must flow. We must intercept it immediately.

2707
02:43:06,520 --> 02:43:09,720
Speaker 14: We're listening, but because we don't want our people to

2708
02:43:09,800 --> 02:43:11,960
Speaker 14: feel like we're not there for us. Like even when

2709
02:43:12,000 --> 02:43:13,720
Speaker 14: we went to the score out of the shed, the

2710
02:43:13,920 --> 02:43:16,760
Speaker 14: children were being attacked. The parents didn't know what to do,

2711
02:43:17,000 --> 02:43:19,000
Speaker 14: but we we came in with a force and let

2712
02:43:19,040 --> 02:43:21,440
Speaker 14: them know we're with you. We're not going to deal

2713
02:43:21,520 --> 02:43:23,320
Speaker 14: with the OPI joke and the complaining like you say,

2714
02:43:23,400 --> 02:43:26,000
Speaker 14: but we're coming with solutions, and we're coming knowing that

2715
02:43:26,080 --> 02:43:31,240
Speaker 14: we're walking in victoriously. We're benifesting interception of this. This will,

2716
02:43:31,760 --> 02:43:35,000
Speaker 14: this will remain for us because it is a positive force.

2717
02:43:35,879 --> 02:43:36,280
Speaker 18: So love you.

2718
02:43:36,360 --> 02:43:37,640
Speaker 14: I'm not gonna take a lot of time because you

2719
02:43:37,680 --> 02:43:40,000
Speaker 14: know all your little deep sometimes you but thank you

2720
02:43:40,080 --> 02:43:42,200
Speaker 14: for letting me free my mind, for I'm gonna be

2721
02:43:42,280 --> 02:43:44,199
Speaker 14: flying on on. Bring your mind Friday.

2722
02:43:44,240 --> 02:43:51,280
Speaker 11: If I get a chance, I'll falling alright.

2723
02:43:55,000 --> 02:43:56,200
Speaker 1: You want to respond to anything she said?

2724
02:43:57,360 --> 02:43:57,640
Speaker 20: I love.

2725
02:43:57,760 --> 02:43:59,720
Speaker 4: I love what she said. I love what she said,

2726
02:43:59,760 --> 02:44:02,760
Speaker 4: I love the energy, I love the spirit. The healing

2727
02:44:02,879 --> 02:44:06,000
Speaker 4: is necessary. We're in a precarious position. War has been

2728
02:44:06,040 --> 02:44:10,280
Speaker 4: declared on us, yet we're not healed. Right, So this

2729
02:44:10,440 --> 02:44:14,160
Speaker 4: is a reason the fear is in to a degree,

2730
02:44:14,240 --> 02:44:16,640
Speaker 4: such a position of power. This is why people. So

2731
02:44:16,800 --> 02:44:20,120
Speaker 4: first of all, complaining, Let's be clear. A complaint means

2732
02:44:20,160 --> 02:44:24,720
Speaker 4: that it's understood that something is wrong. Okay, so there's

2733
02:44:24,800 --> 02:44:28,359
Speaker 4: nothing wrong with that. Now we just have to get

2734
02:44:28,600 --> 02:44:34,080
Speaker 4: more of to a point of the due part. We understand.

2735
02:44:34,560 --> 02:44:37,640
Speaker 4: This is a complaining, this is what's wrong. Now it's

2736
02:44:37,680 --> 02:44:39,360
Speaker 4: time to get to the due part. But first and

2737
02:44:39,440 --> 02:44:42,800
Speaker 4: foremost it has to happen with us individually and working

2738
02:44:42,879 --> 02:44:47,240
Speaker 4: with ourselves first so we won't have those fears so

2739
02:44:47,400 --> 02:44:49,600
Speaker 4: we can come together and do particular things. And this

2740
02:44:49,720 --> 02:44:52,560
Speaker 4: is the external work. But most importantly, the internal work

2741
02:44:52,640 --> 02:44:56,480
Speaker 4: has to take place so it can be mirrored externally.

2742
02:44:56,959 --> 02:44:59,080
Speaker 4: It is a process to this. It is a process.

2743
02:44:59,200 --> 02:45:01,560
Speaker 4: So we do have to continue to heal. We do

2744
02:45:01,720 --> 02:45:03,440
Speaker 4: have to deal with those traumas, we do have to

2745
02:45:03,520 --> 02:45:05,600
Speaker 4: deal with those fears, We have to deal with all

2746
02:45:05,640 --> 02:45:08,720
Speaker 4: the things that come with that self sabotage. That's a major,

2747
02:45:08,879 --> 02:45:12,600
Speaker 4: major thing when we begin to start coming together doing things,

2748
02:45:12,680 --> 02:45:17,760
Speaker 4: is the self sabotage part, because the subconscious mind is

2749
02:45:17,840 --> 02:45:21,800
Speaker 4: not being dealt with all right, because the cognitive dissonance

2750
02:45:21,920 --> 02:45:24,040
Speaker 4: is not being dealt with, the Stockholm syndrome is not

2751
02:45:24,120 --> 02:45:28,040
Speaker 4: being dealt with defying all things that are white, the system,

2752
02:45:28,120 --> 02:45:32,000
Speaker 4: white people, with religion, whatever it is, but defying all

2753
02:45:32,080 --> 02:45:37,720
Speaker 4: of those different things. So we just have to understand

2754
02:45:37,760 --> 02:45:40,800
Speaker 4: that these things are processed and really be focused on

2755
02:45:42,000 --> 02:45:45,280
Speaker 4: being better as individuals, being better as a group, being

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Speaker 4: better as a family, being better as a community, being

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02:45:48,120 --> 02:45:51,200
Speaker 4: better as a people, and just keep working towards that,

2758
02:45:51,400 --> 02:45:54,000
Speaker 4: and keep working towards that, and keep working towards that,

2759
02:45:54,160 --> 02:45:55,400
Speaker 4: and keep working towards that.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha twenty eight away from the top of how to

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02:45:58,520 --> 02:46:01,119
Speaker 1: speak to brother Sadeki Bacari, Carls are calling us from

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02:46:01,240 --> 02:46:03,400
Speaker 1: UH West Palm Beach in Florida. Is our line for

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02:46:03,680 --> 02:46:07,440
Speaker 1: Grand Rising Carl A question for brother Sadiki Grand.

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Speaker 21: Rising family, Brother Tediki, I want to see if you

2765
02:46:10,240 --> 02:46:13,480
Speaker 21: will agree with me. Many times we don't identify what

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02:46:13,680 --> 02:46:17,360
Speaker 21: it is that we're actually attacking. We are attacking the

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02:46:17,600 --> 02:46:22,160
Speaker 21: educational system that has been fostered by the Western ideology

2768
02:46:22,520 --> 02:46:26,440
Speaker 21: right and many times we don't understand the need for

2769
02:46:26,600 --> 02:46:30,320
Speaker 21: us to invest in the UH, the team UH that

2770
02:46:30,520 --> 02:46:34,120
Speaker 21: you will own that are are guided to bring us

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02:46:34,160 --> 02:46:37,480
Speaker 21: into a new development, And we don't understand the need

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02:46:37,640 --> 02:46:40,800
Speaker 21: for us to invest in that kind of reality. We

2773
02:46:41,160 --> 02:46:45,000
Speaker 21: spend our money right now on riots, living and and

2774
02:46:45,120 --> 02:46:49,280
Speaker 21: we don't understand that. And my my thought process was

2775
02:46:49,440 --> 02:46:52,920
Speaker 21: that we need to understand that we are attacking the

2776
02:46:53,360 --> 02:46:58,080
Speaker 21: educational system of the Western hemisphere and we have actual

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02:46:58,200 --> 02:47:02,000
Speaker 21: facts and documentation as we build the team, because the

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02:47:02,120 --> 02:47:05,520
Speaker 21: team that I built from from my perspective, because everybody

2779
02:47:05,600 --> 02:47:09,520
Speaker 21: gonna be watching football right now, I got you as

2780
02:47:09,560 --> 02:47:12,320
Speaker 21: a uh, I got you down as an offensive guard.

2781
02:47:12,520 --> 02:47:13,680
Speaker 21: You and Michael m.

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02:47:13,760 --> 02:47:14,120
Speaker 4: Hotel.

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02:47:14,720 --> 02:47:19,400
Speaker 21: As we build an educational educational system that we can

2784
02:47:19,560 --> 02:47:24,720
Speaker 21: identify our real problems and address them in truth. And

2785
02:47:24,959 --> 02:47:28,040
Speaker 21: many times I don't think we understand that. And I

2786
02:47:28,160 --> 02:47:32,320
Speaker 21: also understand that if we don't practice it, we can't

2787
02:47:32,440 --> 02:47:36,200
Speaker 21: never come into the understanding of it, the theology of it.

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02:47:36,440 --> 02:47:39,920
Speaker 21: We get that in the educational process, but after we

2789
02:47:40,040 --> 02:47:42,720
Speaker 21: get that knowledge, we got to come out in practice,

2790
02:47:43,080 --> 02:47:46,480
Speaker 21: and we are not practicing. And I at some juncture

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02:47:46,520 --> 02:47:49,680
Speaker 21: in my development, I would like to meet with you

2792
02:47:49,920 --> 02:47:53,400
Speaker 21: personally so that we could advance, because I'm dealing with

2793
02:47:53,640 --> 02:47:57,080
Speaker 21: the state state of Florida and its laws as it

2794
02:47:57,160 --> 02:48:00,600
Speaker 21: relates to the African and African American curriculum here in

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02:48:00,680 --> 02:48:03,240
Speaker 21: the state of Florida, and we need your kind of

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02:48:03,720 --> 02:48:08,440
Speaker 21: uh insert in certain into the conversation of what's going

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02:48:08,520 --> 02:48:10,760
Speaker 21: on in the state of Florida. And I wanted to

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02:48:10,840 --> 02:48:14,320
Speaker 21: do it publicly, and I always thank Carl Nelson for

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02:48:14,680 --> 02:48:17,440
Speaker 21: providing such a vehicle that we could have that kind

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02:48:17,440 --> 02:48:20,360
Speaker 21: of representation. But I think it's very very important that

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02:48:20,480 --> 02:48:25,200
Speaker 21: we identify that we are attacking the educational system of

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Speaker 21: the world and and how we come now in the rebirth.

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02:48:30,440 --> 02:48:33,480
Speaker 21: Thank you man. I apologize if I said too much.

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02:48:33,920 --> 02:48:34,440
Speaker 21: Thank you man.

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Speaker 1: Okay, right, thanks Carl brother City.

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Speaker 4: Well, that is definitely a tentacle. I agree with what

2807
02:48:43,920 --> 02:48:47,520
Speaker 4: he's saying. That's that's definitely a tentacle of what we

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02:48:47,560 --> 02:48:52,800
Speaker 4: should be doing. And we've created the earliest educational systems.

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02:48:53,560 --> 02:48:57,880
Speaker 4: It's a shatter system, right, So we know the importance

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02:48:57,959 --> 02:49:02,320
Speaker 4: of educational systems. But the issue is when the educational

2811
02:49:02,440 --> 02:49:05,680
Speaker 4: system is a system that is ran by your enemy,

2812
02:49:05,760 --> 02:49:09,879
Speaker 4: that system will not be created for you to flourish

2813
02:49:10,000 --> 02:49:12,760
Speaker 4: in that system unless it's going to be used to

2814
02:49:12,920 --> 02:49:18,680
Speaker 4: benefits that system. Okay, so what does that mean? Imagine

2815
02:49:18,720 --> 02:49:22,440
Speaker 4: having an educational system and it is predicated off the

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02:49:22,560 --> 02:49:25,720
Speaker 4: foundation of the cod in the by the spirit and

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02:49:25,800 --> 02:49:28,600
Speaker 4: the soul, which is something that we've already done, as

2818
02:49:28,640 --> 02:49:33,560
Speaker 4: well as the mind. Right, this is something we've already done.

2819
02:49:34,040 --> 02:49:37,039
Speaker 4: So again, it's about going back to who we truly are.

2820
02:49:37,360 --> 02:49:40,240
Speaker 4: And this is why I mentioned spiritual technology. All of

2821
02:49:40,920 --> 02:49:44,400
Speaker 4: these things are offshoots of spiritual technology.

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02:49:45,160 --> 02:49:45,320
Speaker 5: Right.

2823
02:49:45,480 --> 02:49:47,840
Speaker 4: So these are the things we have to get back into.

2824
02:49:50,080 --> 02:49:55,240
Speaker 4: I understand the conversation about the educational system, right, However,

2825
02:49:55,440 --> 02:49:59,320
Speaker 4: that's not our system. Where's our systems? And we do

2826
02:49:59,560 --> 02:50:04,640
Speaker 4: have educational systems that our people don't support like they

2827
02:50:04,800 --> 02:50:09,800
Speaker 4: do the Western educational system and then complain about the

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02:50:10,000 --> 02:50:13,320
Speaker 4: educational system. Okay, So again these are things that we

2829
02:50:13,480 --> 02:50:17,760
Speaker 4: have to look at. Why aren't our freedom schools supported

2830
02:50:18,360 --> 02:50:22,000
Speaker 4: right as as the Western educational system is. And we

2831
02:50:22,120 --> 02:50:25,600
Speaker 4: understand this programming, We get it, Stockholm syndrome, the verification

2832
02:50:25,760 --> 02:50:30,039
Speaker 4: of white education, and intellectualism and all of those different things.

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02:50:30,080 --> 02:50:33,800
Speaker 4: I mean, we understand it. However, we're just going to

2834
02:50:33,879 --> 02:50:36,640
Speaker 4: have to get to that place of educating out being

2835
02:50:36,720 --> 02:50:42,080
Speaker 4: able to educate our own children. Right now. That gets

2836
02:50:42,160 --> 02:50:45,880
Speaker 4: into parenting, which is another whole, another rabbit hole, but

2837
02:50:46,520 --> 02:50:49,800
Speaker 4: that's what we have to do, all right. Ultimately, that's

2838
02:50:50,120 --> 02:50:53,320
Speaker 4: where we have to get to whatever that means. If

2839
02:50:53,360 --> 02:50:57,440
Speaker 4: that means we have to have our own you know,

2840
02:50:57,840 --> 02:51:04,000
Speaker 4: our own areas where we exist, then that's what it

2841
02:51:04,000 --> 02:51:06,640
Speaker 4: would have to be, whatever it needs to be. But

2842
02:51:06,800 --> 02:51:09,760
Speaker 4: we need to not be in their schools. That's the

2843
02:51:09,959 --> 02:51:12,560
Speaker 4: end game is. We need to not be in their schools.

2844
02:51:12,800 --> 02:51:15,240
Speaker 4: We need to not be in their religions, we need

2845
02:51:15,360 --> 02:51:18,160
Speaker 4: to not be in their political structures. You understand what

2846
02:51:18,240 --> 02:51:22,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Ultimately, that's what needs to happen. If people

2847
02:51:22,720 --> 02:51:25,640
Speaker 4: are really talking about freedom, now that's not what you're

2848
02:51:25,640 --> 02:51:28,080
Speaker 4: talking about. I understand that's not what you're talking about.

2849
02:51:28,200 --> 02:51:31,960
Speaker 4: That's fine, but be clear if you are talking about freedom,

2850
02:51:32,040 --> 02:51:34,080
Speaker 4: because you're not going to have it in their systems,

2851
02:51:34,480 --> 02:51:37,400
Speaker 4: let's be cleard to keep you oppressed.

2852
02:51:38,000 --> 02:51:40,480
Speaker 1: All right, hold on thoughtry there, brother Sidiki, twenty two

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02:51:40,480 --> 02:51:42,280
Speaker 1: minutes away from the top. They have family. I hope

2854
02:51:42,280 --> 02:51:45,240
Speaker 1: you enjoy this conversation. Brother Sidiki. You could join us

2855
02:51:45,320 --> 02:51:47,720
Speaker 1: at eight hundred and four or five zero seventy eight

2856
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Speaker 1: seventy six, and we'll take all your calls next and

2857
02:51:50,720 --> 02:51:52,840
Speaker 1: Grant Rising family thanks for a sting with us on

2858
02:51:52,959 --> 02:51:55,440
Speaker 1: this Wednesday morning. It's seventeen minutes away from the top there.

2859
02:51:55,640 --> 02:51:57,800
Speaker 1: Before we go back to brother Sidikiva, I got to

2860
02:51:57,840 --> 02:52:00,200
Speaker 1: note here the Reverend Jesse Jackson has been distroyed from

2861
02:52:00,240 --> 02:52:01,920
Speaker 1: the hospital. You know, many people wrote in my off

2862
02:52:02,000 --> 02:52:06,440
Speaker 1: last last last week. But now he's back home and

2863
02:52:06,520 --> 02:52:09,039
Speaker 1: he still recuper anybody's back home. He's out of the hospital.

2864
02:52:09,320 --> 02:52:12,120
Speaker 1: All right, Brother Sidiki is guess brother, you got some

2865
02:52:12,160 --> 02:52:13,680
Speaker 1: more folks want to talk to you, So let's get

2866
02:52:13,760 --> 02:52:15,359
Speaker 1: as many people as possible.

2867
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Speaker 4: Before we get to the next one. Carl, let me

2868
02:52:17,800 --> 02:52:19,840
Speaker 4: do this before we get to the next one. I

2869
02:52:20,000 --> 02:52:22,440
Speaker 4: know people want to If you want to order this book, Traum,

2870
02:52:22,440 --> 02:52:24,600
Speaker 4: my mother Board of Technology in the Mirror of Unhealed

2871
02:52:24,640 --> 02:52:29,039
Speaker 4: Memory and Metadata, just email me Sadiq Bakari at hotmail

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02:52:29,120 --> 02:52:33,320
Speaker 4: dot com essay d I k I b A K

2873
02:52:33,640 --> 02:52:37,080
Speaker 4: A r I SADQ Bakari at hotmail dot com. I'm

2874
02:52:37,080 --> 02:52:41,440
Speaker 4: also on Facebook and Instagram Sidiqi Bakari, So email me

2875
02:52:41,520 --> 02:52:43,520
Speaker 4: for that you can get this book. If you want

2876
02:52:43,520 --> 02:52:45,000
Speaker 4: to do the one on ones with me as well,

2877
02:52:45,720 --> 02:52:49,080
Speaker 4: do it. I appreciate your listeners, Carl h. Many of

2878
02:52:49,160 --> 02:52:51,200
Speaker 4: them are ordering the books, many of them are doing

2879
02:52:51,240 --> 02:52:52,760
Speaker 4: the one on ones. All of that so I'm just

2880
02:52:53,440 --> 02:52:56,760
Speaker 4: totally appreciative and I wanted to say that to the listeners.

2881
02:52:57,320 --> 02:52:59,800
Speaker 1: All right, and we'll give all that information before you leave.

2882
02:53:00,080 --> 02:53:03,160
Speaker 1: But let's go to Charles online. One car from Washington, DC,

2883
02:53:03,600 --> 02:53:05,760
Speaker 1: Grand Rising, Charles A question for brother Sidiki.

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02:53:07,959 --> 02:53:10,080
Speaker 22: Hello to everybody out there radio Land.

2885
02:53:10,120 --> 02:53:12,680
Speaker 4: Thank you brother Paul dropping that knowledge on this.

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02:53:12,879 --> 02:53:17,439
Speaker 20: I really appreciate that a spiritual technology is very important.

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02:53:17,879 --> 02:53:20,120
Speaker 20: And I know we on radio, but one of the

2888
02:53:20,200 --> 02:53:23,199
Speaker 20: parts about spiritual technology is being able to be quiet

2889
02:53:24,840 --> 02:53:30,000
Speaker 20: and finding that place inside of yourself. And it's a

2890
02:53:30,040 --> 02:53:33,120
Speaker 20: little contrary to the loudness that we hear on the outside.

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02:53:33,840 --> 02:53:37,040
Speaker 22: And one thing I like to do is get a

2892
02:53:37,080 --> 02:53:40,800
Speaker 22: little separation from my mind, my emotions, and even my

2893
02:53:40,920 --> 02:53:44,400
Speaker 22: body and understand there's a spirit inside of me that

2894
02:53:45,720 --> 02:53:46,959
Speaker 22: sees all of that stuff.

2895
02:53:47,640 --> 02:53:48,680
Speaker 4: The spirit inside of me.

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02:53:48,800 --> 02:53:51,320
Speaker 22: Not that I slept good last night, a note that

2897
02:53:51,440 --> 02:53:53,720
Speaker 22: I had a dream last night, a note that I

2898
02:53:54,160 --> 02:53:55,040
Speaker 22: didn't sleep good.

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02:53:56,240 --> 02:54:00,560
Speaker 20: But what I work on is liberation, liberation for my emotions,

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02:54:00,800 --> 02:54:04,400
Speaker 20: liberation from my thoughts, and that liberations give me a

2901
02:54:04,480 --> 02:54:07,480
Speaker 20: little bit of separation from me and me because some

2902
02:54:07,560 --> 02:54:11,119
Speaker 20: people say, well, you conceded because you want to love yourself,

2903
02:54:11,280 --> 02:54:12,120
Speaker 20: what part of you love?

2904
02:54:12,400 --> 02:54:14,320
Speaker 22: You love the eco, you love your spirit.

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02:54:17,120 --> 02:54:17,560
Speaker 4: Excellent.

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02:54:19,840 --> 02:54:23,960
Speaker 22: Thanks Les, appreciate, Thank you brother, thank you. Yeah, that's okay,

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02:54:24,120 --> 02:54:26,160
Speaker 22: you will excellent, excellent.

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02:54:26,600 --> 02:54:29,720
Speaker 4: Is nothing for me to say, that's excellent, excellent.

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02:54:30,400 --> 02:54:33,520
Speaker 1: I agree and thanks Charles. Yeah, you said sometimes you

2910
02:54:33,560 --> 02:54:36,560
Speaker 1: got to sit in silence and talk to you and

2911
02:54:36,640 --> 02:54:40,080
Speaker 1: you're not crazy. Just don't answer. Fourteen Away from the top,

2912
02:54:41,000 --> 02:54:43,680
Speaker 1: seize the calling from Atlanta Online to Grand Rising see

2913
02:54:43,720 --> 02:54:47,360
Speaker 1: your only brother Sadeka Bakari, rise and.

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02:54:47,480 --> 02:54:51,760
Speaker 4: Call and brother Sadiki. I wanted to write very I

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02:54:51,840 --> 02:54:53,120
Speaker 4: wanted to speak very briefly to.

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Speaker 15: The Holy Trinity, the three part spiritual aspects of the universe,

2917
02:54:57,640 --> 02:55:02,480
Speaker 15: will Creator, Godhead or divine source. That concept came up

2918
02:55:02,520 --> 02:55:09,760
Speaker 15: out of ancient Chemic Aarsart and Herou represented Godhead, and

2919
02:55:10,200 --> 02:55:14,880
Speaker 15: they were changed later by Europeans the Greeks to those

2920
02:55:15,040 --> 02:55:21,840
Speaker 15: names became Osiris, Isis and holl And. Then later Christianity

2921
02:55:22,200 --> 02:55:28,440
Speaker 15: converted that concept in the Bible to the Father, the

2922
02:55:28,560 --> 02:55:35,080
Speaker 15: Holy Spirit, and the Son. Originally, Aarsar represented the divine masculine,

2923
02:55:35,560 --> 02:55:40,360
Speaker 15: Offset represented the divine feminine. Herou was the son of

2924
02:55:40,560 --> 02:55:44,320
Speaker 15: Arsar and Offset, but he represented creation, which is all

2925
02:55:44,400 --> 02:55:51,800
Speaker 15: of us. So conceptually and universally, also scientifically, the masculine

2926
02:55:51,879 --> 02:55:55,160
Speaker 15: is the positive charge. The feminine is the negative charge

2927
02:55:55,720 --> 02:56:02,000
Speaker 15: in an atom before creation, no matter how as above

2928
02:56:02,120 --> 02:56:05,000
Speaker 15: so below. So if you go all the way down

2929
02:56:05,080 --> 02:56:09,320
Speaker 15: to the smallest representation of life in the atom, or

2930
02:56:09,480 --> 02:56:13,160
Speaker 15: even below that, you will see masculine and feminine energy.

2931
02:56:13,800 --> 02:56:16,760
Speaker 15: This is very important to understand because that concept came

2932
02:56:16,840 --> 02:56:23,160
Speaker 15: from us. It was manipulated in Christianity, and the manipulation

2933
02:56:23,440 --> 02:56:28,199
Speaker 15: changed the design feminine to a male. The Holy Spirit

2934
02:56:28,280 --> 02:56:33,199
Speaker 15: became a male. But you have Father male, Holy Spirit male,

2935
02:56:33,480 --> 02:56:36,200
Speaker 15: and Sun male. Now I don't need to explain to

2936
02:56:36,240 --> 02:56:40,560
Speaker 15: anyone what's wrong with that concept, So understand it as

2937
02:56:40,720 --> 02:56:43,920
Speaker 15: being manipulated. And I wanted to just share that. And

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02:56:44,040 --> 02:56:49,800
Speaker 15: then also there's a technique for mastering trauma. Trauma can

2939
02:56:49,840 --> 02:56:55,280
Speaker 15: be transformed quickly by a spiritual choice. Choice is more

2940
02:56:55,879 --> 02:56:58,000
Speaker 15: than just an option, It is a power.

2941
02:56:58,760 --> 02:57:03,600
Speaker 13: We must step in our spiritual power of choice as

2942
02:57:03,640 --> 02:57:07,560
Speaker 13: a people. So when we choose to think positive thoughts,

2943
02:57:07,920 --> 02:57:11,000
Speaker 13: when we choose to say positive things, when we put

2944
02:57:11,080 --> 02:57:14,000
Speaker 13: the word I am in front of anything, it never

2945
02:57:14,160 --> 02:57:17,240
Speaker 13: returns void because it is the name of God, so

2946
02:57:17,480 --> 02:57:20,800
Speaker 13: it becomes important for us to speak I AM positive

2947
02:57:20,879 --> 02:57:25,000
Speaker 13: thoughts to ourselves. And then one other technique is to

2948
02:57:25,240 --> 02:57:29,160
Speaker 13: have a person fit in a chair with someone on

2949
02:57:29,360 --> 02:57:33,119
Speaker 13: the left and the right whispering in their ear nothing

2950
02:57:33,280 --> 02:57:36,240
Speaker 13: but positive things about them to that person for the

2951
02:57:36,400 --> 02:57:40,320
Speaker 13: least thirty seconds, and then allow that person to meditate

2952
02:57:40,440 --> 02:57:43,120
Speaker 13: on that and then speak on how they now feel.

2953
02:57:43,560 --> 02:57:48,840
Speaker 13: It will instantly transform their negativity into positivity if they

2954
02:57:48,879 --> 02:57:53,320
Speaker 13: have heard positive things about themselves. So I just wanted

2955
02:57:53,360 --> 02:57:56,680
Speaker 13: to share those points. I think you are absolutely on point,

2956
02:57:57,080 --> 02:57:58,200
Speaker 13: and let's go do the work.

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02:57:59,440 --> 02:58:03,680
Speaker 4: Actually excellent, excellent. Yeah, all of that that he's talking about,

2958
02:58:03,800 --> 02:58:09,600
Speaker 4: especially the tools, the exercises, the choices, all of that

2959
02:58:10,120 --> 02:58:13,000
Speaker 4: that's part of empowered technology. That's a mastery system that

2960
02:58:15,240 --> 02:58:19,000
Speaker 4: that's the consulting part of what I do. So all

2961
02:58:19,040 --> 02:58:21,280
Speaker 4: of that is part of empowered technology. So yes, I

2962
02:58:21,360 --> 02:58:26,640
Speaker 4: appreciate you, brother, thank you for those words. And that's

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Speaker 4: one more.

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Speaker 1: Tweet for you, brother Sadiki ten away from the topic,

2965
02:58:30,720 --> 02:58:33,720
Speaker 1: and tweeter says, when I started listening more than talking,

2966
02:58:34,160 --> 02:58:36,840
Speaker 1: I realized that much of my friends and family were

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Speaker 1: so negative and I had to distance myself since I

2968
02:58:40,360 --> 02:58:43,360
Speaker 1: did that, I am so much happier. But guess what, Yeah,

2969
02:58:43,440 --> 02:58:45,560
Speaker 1: they are mad because they can't draw me into this

2970
02:58:45,680 --> 02:58:47,800
Speaker 1: hateful web. Your response to that.

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Speaker 4: Tweet, well, yes, absolutely. Most people don't know how to listen,

2972
02:58:57,360 --> 02:58:59,880
Speaker 4: you see what I mean. They're listening to talk or

2973
02:59:00,040 --> 02:59:04,720
Speaker 4: speak instead of listening to learn and understand. So yes,

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02:59:06,240 --> 02:59:07,879
Speaker 4: Master Naker a listener.

2975
02:59:08,640 --> 02:59:10,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got another tweet for your brother sink. So

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02:59:10,440 --> 02:59:13,720
Speaker 1: the grand rising brother Sidiki? Are AI and social media

2977
02:59:14,040 --> 02:59:17,680
Speaker 1: algorithms playing on our trauma to keep us distracted? If so,

2978
02:59:17,920 --> 02:59:19,880
Speaker 1: what are some of the ways we can overcome that

2979
02:59:20,560 --> 02:59:22,120
Speaker 1: and transform that influence?

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02:59:23,400 --> 02:59:26,800
Speaker 4: Resounding yes? And the easiest way is get off of

2981
02:59:26,879 --> 02:59:30,720
Speaker 4: social media. I mean that's the easiest thing to do. Now.

2982
02:59:30,720 --> 02:59:32,240
Speaker 4: If you have to be on there, beyond there for

2983
02:59:32,320 --> 02:59:35,280
Speaker 4: a reason, what's your reason to be on social media?

2984
02:59:35,360 --> 02:59:39,080
Speaker 4: I'm on social media from a standpoint of marketing. That's

2985
02:59:39,120 --> 02:59:42,840
Speaker 4: why I'm on social media. You know, I'm not on

2986
02:59:42,959 --> 02:59:44,840
Speaker 4: there to be part of all the other mess so

2987
02:59:45,000 --> 02:59:47,440
Speaker 4: to speak. So you know, have a plan. Why are

2988
02:59:47,440 --> 02:59:51,480
Speaker 4: you on social media? The algorithm is the algorithm, all right.

2989
02:59:52,120 --> 02:59:54,880
Speaker 4: People think that they can control the algorithm, but in essence,

2990
02:59:54,920 --> 02:59:59,160
Speaker 4: you can't control the algorithm. It's not your system, all right,

2991
02:59:59,640 --> 03:00:03,480
Speaker 4: so may be able to do some things to manipulate it,

2992
03:00:03,560 --> 03:00:08,119
Speaker 4: but overall, the algorithm is an algorithm that's not created

2993
03:00:08,200 --> 03:00:10,760
Speaker 4: by you. It's created by that system. They want you

2994
03:00:10,879 --> 03:00:15,480
Speaker 4: to think that you create the algorithm, so to speak. Online,

2995
03:00:15,560 --> 03:00:19,160
Speaker 4: that's really not how it works. As we talked about,

2996
03:00:20,760 --> 03:00:24,720
Speaker 4: half of what people think are people online on social

2997
03:00:24,760 --> 03:00:29,039
Speaker 4: media are actually bots. They're not people, right, So that's

2998
03:00:29,080 --> 03:00:31,760
Speaker 4: the problem in itself, and that's the reason that those

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Speaker 4: bots are on social media. As far as the negativity

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03:00:36,360 --> 03:00:38,680
Speaker 4: and tapping into the trauma and all of those different

3001
03:00:38,680 --> 03:00:40,600
Speaker 4: things to create narratives and all of that, that's what

3002
03:00:40,680 --> 03:00:43,560
Speaker 4: it's for, all right. So but we'll get into all

3003
03:00:43,600 --> 03:00:44,560
Speaker 4: of that next time. I'm on.

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03:00:45,800 --> 03:00:47,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm glad you mentioned that because a little

3005
03:00:47,400 --> 03:00:50,000
Speaker 1: reporter came out there a few days ago that many

3006
03:00:50,040 --> 03:00:52,440
Speaker 1: of the people and this is political, so I'm not

3007
03:00:52,520 --> 03:00:54,320
Speaker 1: saying it's which is right or which is wrong, but

3008
03:00:54,400 --> 03:00:58,279
Speaker 1: many of the people are coming out attacking the Democrats.

3009
03:00:58,320 --> 03:01:03,760
Speaker 1: Will actually bought other working overseas, and they they honed

3010
03:01:03,800 --> 03:01:05,920
Speaker 1: in on the black community. If they think of the

3011
03:01:06,080 --> 03:01:08,400
Speaker 1: figure out using an algorithm, they can tell you're black,

3012
03:01:08,680 --> 03:01:10,960
Speaker 1: they target our people. So I just want to share

3013
03:01:11,000 --> 03:01:13,240
Speaker 1: that it works both ways.

3014
03:01:13,720 --> 03:01:17,440
Speaker 4: Absolutely. That's the reason sixteen years ago I started talking

3015
03:01:17,480 --> 03:01:22,000
Speaker 4: about the new racism and discrimination would be binary codes

3016
03:01:22,040 --> 03:01:25,040
Speaker 4: and algorithms. People said I was crazy. Now people are

3017
03:01:25,080 --> 03:01:28,000
Speaker 4: getting awards for research that I did sixteen years ago

3018
03:01:28,080 --> 03:01:31,199
Speaker 4: because now people are talking about that and having that conversation.

3019
03:01:33,440 --> 03:01:35,240
Speaker 1: And you also said it was they used the music

3020
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Speaker 1: as well as a tool.

3021
03:01:37,240 --> 03:01:42,600
Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's all a tool. All of the different areas

3022
03:01:42,640 --> 03:01:47,880
Speaker 4: of human activity that that nearly Fuller Francis Chres Wilson

3023
03:01:48,840 --> 03:01:53,800
Speaker 4: so so greatly gave us. The research on all of

3024
03:01:53,920 --> 03:01:57,280
Speaker 4: that is going to be is being and will ultimately

3025
03:01:57,400 --> 03:02:01,720
Speaker 4: be technology oriented all of it. So it'll be working

3026
03:02:01,800 --> 03:02:05,199
Speaker 4: through technology, all right, So you'll see the so called

3027
03:02:05,800 --> 03:02:09,280
Speaker 4: racism and discrimination, well you won't see it because it'll

3028
03:02:09,320 --> 03:02:16,920
Speaker 4: be done and it's being done through algorithms. That's the future, Seep. Anyway,

3029
03:02:17,000 --> 03:02:18,600
Speaker 4: we'll deal with all that next show, Carl.

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03:02:19,480 --> 03:02:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we've got to reminder of family that, you know,

3031
03:02:23,320 --> 03:02:26,120
Speaker 1: stop putting your information on the internet. They can't work

3032
03:02:26,120 --> 03:02:28,120
Speaker 1: with that. Your internet. You know, what you have for

3033
03:02:28,200 --> 03:02:30,160
Speaker 1: dinner will kind of shoes you where you're good and

3034
03:02:30,520 --> 03:02:34,160
Speaker 1: where you're on vacation. Explain that for real quick before

3035
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Speaker 1: we go.

3036
03:02:36,720 --> 03:02:41,160
Speaker 4: Well, that's ultimately that ends up being surveillance and counterintelligence.

3037
03:02:41,600 --> 03:02:44,240
Speaker 4: You're just giving them the information. You're giving them the knowledge,

3038
03:02:44,680 --> 03:02:47,040
Speaker 4: You're giving them your dots, so to speak. You're making

3039
03:02:47,080 --> 03:02:49,680
Speaker 4: their job easy. So ultimately, though, what people need to

3040
03:02:49,760 --> 03:02:52,920
Speaker 4: understand moving forward with technology, people talk about all these

3041
03:02:53,000 --> 03:02:56,000
Speaker 4: things are going to happen, and you know, digital ID

3042
03:02:56,320 --> 03:02:58,440
Speaker 4: and all these different things. Well, it's only going to

3043
03:02:58,520 --> 03:03:02,120
Speaker 4: happen if you allow it to happen. You have to

3044
03:03:02,360 --> 03:03:05,120
Speaker 4: sign up for it, so to speak. But see again,

3045
03:03:06,280 --> 03:03:09,840
Speaker 4: now we start talking about are people willing to not

3046
03:03:10,040 --> 03:03:13,360
Speaker 4: be comfortable in certain ways? Are people willing to not

3047
03:03:14,040 --> 03:03:18,080
Speaker 4: make certain decisions? Because COVID told us and taught us

3048
03:03:18,120 --> 03:03:20,360
Speaker 4: a lot about people. A lot of these people who

3049
03:03:20,440 --> 03:03:24,279
Speaker 4: claim to be activists and revolutionaries and organizers and healers,

3050
03:03:25,600 --> 03:03:31,280
Speaker 4: we're pushing the very thing and purpose of that thing

3051
03:03:32,600 --> 03:03:39,640
Speaker 4: was genocide. That's the truth. So it's up to the people.

3052
03:03:40,080 --> 03:03:44,000
Speaker 4: What will happen ultimately with AI or technology in general

3053
03:03:44,360 --> 03:03:47,200
Speaker 4: in the future. It's up to the people. What will

3054
03:03:47,240 --> 03:03:48,080
Speaker 4: the people decide?

3055
03:03:50,720 --> 03:03:52,720
Speaker 1: Right, and back to COVID thing, some of those folks

3056
03:03:52,800 --> 03:03:54,720
Speaker 1: took the shot and telling you not to take the shot.

3057
03:03:55,520 --> 03:03:57,680
Speaker 1: Or if COVID is one of those, you know he

3058
03:03:57,760 --> 03:03:59,960
Speaker 1: took the shot, but it was campaign and tell pill

3059
03:04:00,120 --> 03:04:01,920
Speaker 1: not to take a shot. So you've got to be

3060
03:04:02,000 --> 03:04:04,280
Speaker 1: careful family, you know when people come to you with

3061
03:04:04,360 --> 03:04:07,640
Speaker 1: these kind of stories. But brother Sadiki, how can folks

3062
03:04:07,680 --> 03:04:08,000
Speaker 1: read you?

3063
03:04:09,959 --> 03:04:13,960
Speaker 4: Email me Sadiq Bakari at hotmail dot com. Essay d

3064
03:04:14,240 --> 03:04:18,600
Speaker 4: I K I b A K A r I Sadiq

3065
03:04:18,760 --> 03:04:22,480
Speaker 4: Bakari at hotmail dot com. So you're emailing me for

3066
03:04:22,600 --> 03:04:25,640
Speaker 4: the book, all right? The book on trauma you're emailing

3067
03:04:25,680 --> 03:04:27,120
Speaker 4: me if you want to do one on ones with me,

3068
03:04:27,240 --> 03:04:30,440
Speaker 4: is in regards to consultations and advising in things of

3069
03:04:30,520 --> 03:04:32,560
Speaker 4: that nature, to deal with trauma, to deal with fear,

3070
03:04:32,959 --> 03:04:37,120
Speaker 4: to deprogram, reprogram the subconscious mind, essential nervous system, to

3071
03:04:37,160 --> 03:04:40,240
Speaker 4: deal with self sabotage, all of those different things. All right,

3072
03:04:40,800 --> 03:04:43,960
Speaker 4: that's why you're chintacting me. The book you can only

3073
03:04:44,080 --> 03:04:47,280
Speaker 4: get from me. It's not on Amazon. I'm not paying Amazon.

3074
03:04:47,400 --> 03:04:49,640
Speaker 4: I'm not doing any of that. You get it directly

3075
03:04:49,680 --> 03:04:52,400
Speaker 4: from me. You get it signed, all of that. Email me.

3076
03:04:53,040 --> 03:04:57,199
Speaker 4: Appreciate your carl. You're a phenomenal brother, appreciate your listeners.

3077
03:04:57,480 --> 03:05:00,920
Speaker 4: Let's continue to move forward, all right, Thank you brother Sudiki.

3078
03:05:01,320 --> 03:05:04,680
Speaker 1: Thanks all the information you left us this morning. Family,

3079
03:05:04,760 --> 03:05:08,160
Speaker 1: that's it for the day. Classes closed, dismissed, but we're

3080
03:05:08,200 --> 03:05:10,920
Speaker 1: going to be here tomorrow, so stay strong, stay positive,

3081
03:05:11,200 --> 03:05:14,120
Speaker 1: please please stay healthy. We'll see tomorrow morning, six o'clock

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03:05:14,200 --> 03:05:17,640
Speaker 1: right here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB and then

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Speaker 1: the DMV. We're on fourteen fifty WOL