1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Lie from the heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today got everything. 3 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: This is the biggest scandal in the history of our country. 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: And it really goes on to even the Autopen because 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 2: it all relates to the same thing. 6 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 3: It all started the same sick minds. You have an. 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: Autopen, which is a tremendous way. We don't have a president. 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: We have an autopen that size everything. I'll bet you 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: sign everything. You don't have what I'm knowed everybody who 10 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: doesn't sign, you're the president of the country. 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: But it's all that whole thing leading right. 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: Up to the end of it as the autopen and 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: the autopen was used by people and Biden knew nothing 14 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: about it. 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: Biden knew nothing about it. 16 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: They were signing documents that he knew nothing about. As 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: an example, they released the Unselect Committee of Liability. The 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: Unselect Committee spent two years grilling everybody, and then they 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: destroyed all the evidence. You know why, because the evidence 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: made them guilty. And he gave them all a pardon. 21 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: The cheney, all the scum that was on the Unselect 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: Committee crying Adam Kinzinger and Democrats. 23 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 4: Well he's not wrong. 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: President Trump inviting the President of the Philippines into the 25 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: Oval Office, Fernando Marcos Junior. 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 4: And for those of you who remember the days of Memel. 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: De Marcos, yup, there's the connectivity. 28 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 4: Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, Good to be with you. 29 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 4: So that's happening. And Trump has been on a roll. 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 4: It's been going on for a while. 31 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: Oh, there's been cursing everything, talk about Barack Obama. He 32 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: did this in Russia, Russia, Russia, and he's guilty, which, 33 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: by the way, he is. And now I think we're 34 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: about to see the showdown of showdowns. We're gonna find 35 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: out exactly how much poll Barack Obama still has the 36 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: Democratic Party spoiler alert, not as much as he used to. 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: When you pushed Joe Biden out. When you pushed Joe 38 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: Biden out and you said, all right, I'm going to 39 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: back Kamala Harris by yelling at black men to not 40 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: be traders to their race, it's a great what a 41 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 1: what a strategy, Barack Obama. My goodness, did I say, hello, 42 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, Good to be with you. 43 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: So Trump vi Obama. Let's see how Hardy goes Meanwhile, 44 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: let's bring. 45 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: It back to the president by the seven billion, and 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 2: we want money to go to all universities, not Harvard. 47 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: Harvard got more than anybody else. They have fifty two 48 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: billion dollars. They get huge tax incentives and tax breaks 49 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: on that fifty two billion dollars. But they have fifty 50 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 2: two billion and they got seven billion over a short 51 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 2: period of time. 52 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 3: Then we have a very hostile Joe. 53 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: Appointed by Barack Hussein Obama, very very hostile. We're back 54 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: to Hussein now fantastics exactly right from wrong. But you know, 55 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: we don't we expect to win it an appeal. She 56 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 2: hasn't given a decision yet, but she's very hostile and 57 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: she's been she was put by Barackusain Obama, and generally speaking, 58 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: anybody that does that, it's going to we're gonna have 59 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 2: problems with. So we don't expect to have We won 60 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: the case yesterday. Anybody that was there that was a 61 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: neutral would say we easily won the case. But a 62 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: lot of the case, and a big part of it's 63 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: going to be how much money Harvard gets in the future. 64 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 3: That's not part of the case. Uh, And they're not 65 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: going to get very much. 66 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 5: Negotiating about the reciprocultarian How. 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: Far we with. 68 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: Yes, how far are you from the Philippine Yes, well, 69 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: it's tough. He's a very tough negotiated so far not 70 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: there because he's he's negotiating too tough. 71 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: In fact, I used to like him better than I. 72 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 2: Do now he's too pil but we'll probably agree to something. 73 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: But he is he's strong and strong negotiating. He loves 74 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 3: your country. 75 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 5: You talked a lot about the severe consequences that those 76 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 5: who are involved in the rush folks must face near user. 77 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 5: What are the next steps now that these documents are 78 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 5: out there and told you guys. 79 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 3: Well, the Justice de Pabo would have to act. 80 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 2: And we have a very competent, very good, very loyal 81 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: to our country person in Pambondi, very respected, and she. 82 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: It's going to be her decision. 83 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: Well, I think that you're going to see her act. 84 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any question to that. Is that 85 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: they're sitting in the Oval office, the leader of the Philippines, 86 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: leader of the United States. It's going to talk trade deals, 87 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: and of course every question is going to get asked. 88 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: But there's there doesn't seem to be much doubt in 89 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: mind mind that even if you were to believe Andrew McCarthy, 90 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: which I don't think he's got it all right, that 91 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: so much of this was all known and that none 92 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: of this is a big deal. As a matter of fact, 93 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: I think that the spelling it out for people with 94 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: such levels of clarity is a big deal. I think 95 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: that things get pushed aside, and things get washed away, 96 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: and things get forgotten about, and they shouldn't be that 97 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: these things do matter, and they matter greatly in what 98 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: it is. Barack Obama did, James Comy did, James Clapper did, 99 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: John Brennan did. G Loretta Lynch did, Joe Biden did, 100 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: Andrew McCabe did. As they saw the intelligence communities saying 101 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: the Russians weren't interfering with the election, so they spiked 102 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: the Presidential Daily Brief to basically write a new one 103 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: that said, yep, yep, yep, this was all the Russians, 104 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: and then work to connect Donald Trump to it. 105 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 4: It went down. It's how it happened. 106 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 1: And so I should there be an investigation, Absolutely, should 107 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: charges come, Absolutely, should should people be testifying? Absolutely they should. 108 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: I don't think there's going to be any justice that 109 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: comes from this. I don't see that happening. I don't 110 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: see anybody going to jail because of this, and that's 111 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: and that's horrible. I'm not saying that they that's right, 112 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: they should go to jail. They're terrible. The part that 113 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: matters is that we see who they are and others 114 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: get to see who they are. That's That's the entirety 115 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: of the conversation. It is not that I disagree with you, 116 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: and I will get into more of this about the 117 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: the very idea of sometimes all you have is the vote, 118 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: no matter what you want. I don't condone the violence. 119 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: I don't condone the rioting. I don't condone any of 120 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: that stuff. If, quite literally, there is an invading force. 121 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: I believe in protecting us, and we if we're talking 122 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: about my kids, and I'll get into that as well, 123 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: I feel different. But there is a justice system that 124 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: could help me liable for such things. 125 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: No, I believe in the vote. And we go. 126 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: Back to special election or runoff election in Georgia, remember that, 127 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: and it was You've had these ridiculous people allegedly on 128 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: the political right, losers and hustlers and con guys. As 129 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: I see it and stop the steal, and we're not 130 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: going to allow this. And oh, it doesn't matter if 131 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: you vote in this election. Do you remember that it 132 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: was it was what's his name, herschel Walker running. It's course, 133 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: it mattered, always mattered, And I had trolls reaching out 134 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: to me, Tony, you don't understand. They'll never be a 135 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: fair election again. Meanwhile, Donald Trump is president of the 136 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: United States right now, So tell me more about how 137 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: the elections don't matter. There won't be any more fair 138 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: elections or anything else. It was always just such ridiculousness. 139 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: People who had no control of their emotions. My emotions 140 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: say to me that these low life criminals have to 141 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: be dealt with. One thousand percent must be dealt with. 142 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: Reality says, I'm not going to get the dealing with 143 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: that I want, and I hate that, and that stinks 144 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: to high heaven. 145 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 4: But we have to deal with the reality that we have. 146 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: Reality is also in taking a look at these files 147 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: regarding Martin Luther King, and they got released yesterday, some 148 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand pages of information relating to the assassination 149 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King Jr. Was this always in the works, Well, 150 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: if you were to ask them, they would say yes, 151 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, not only was this in 152 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: the works, the information was shared with Martin Luther King 153 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: Junior's children before it was released. And they have said 154 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:26,839 Speaker 1: something fascinating in their statement, We recognize that the release 155 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: of documents concerning the assassination of our father, doctor Martin 156 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: Luther King, Jr. Has long been a subject of interest, 157 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: captivating public curiosity for decades. I would say that that's correct. 158 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: To be assassinated at that motel nineteen sixty eight, Memphis, Tennessee. 159 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: What do we know about Ray? James Earl Ray? Of course, 160 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: all interesting stuff, But they write, the release of these 161 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: files must be viewed within their full historical context. During 162 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,359 Speaker 1: our father's lifetime, he was relentlessly targeted by an invasive, predatory, 163 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: and deeply disturbing disinformation and surveillance campaign orchestrated by j. 164 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: Edgar Hoover through the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The intent 165 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: of the government's campaign was not only to monitor, but 166 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: to discredit, dismantle, and destroyed doctor King's reputation and the broader. 167 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 4: American civil rights movements. 168 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: So I guess their argument seems to be that within 169 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: these documents there are things that are gonna make Martin 170 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: Luther King Junior look very unflattering, And you have to 171 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: remember who was writing some of these documents to begin with, 172 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: and that they can't be trusted. 173 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 4: For the record. I think that's a wholly. 174 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: Accurate assessment, and I think it's an incredibly important point 175 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: that any time you look at history, it must be 176 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: looked at through the lens of then and the growth 177 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: of then and what happened, and then we can play 178 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: it into how things progressed until now. I think we 179 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: should always be looking at something through the lens of 180 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: what was the context, of the time and of the moment. 181 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: Is every part of every piece of paper that somehow 182 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: makes doctor Martin Luther King look bad fraudulent? 183 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 4: No, I don't believe that in the slightest. 184 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: Is it possible that some of it is fraudulent, absolutely true, 185 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: or at least skewed. That's very very possible. It's a 186 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: worthy statement. What do I think of its release? 187 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 4: I don't know. 188 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: I guess I had missed where this was a promise 189 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: that we would see this. 190 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 4: I knew the JFK stuff, but I didn't know Martin 191 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 4: Luther King's stuff. 192 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: But I look at this, and I look at the 193 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: release from the d n I regarding Russia, RUSSA, Russia, 194 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: the Director of National Intelligence, and I wonder to myself, Man, 195 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: how much are they annoyed by. 196 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 4: All this talk about Jeffrey Epstein? 197 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: Right, we're releasing this, If we're releasing that, we're gonna 198 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: release the I wonder how much they're they're really bothered 199 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: by it? All that they that they are, these other 200 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: things are getting released. Maybe just maybe as a way 201 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: of trying to get people to stop talking about Epstein. 202 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 4: Maybe it's possible. I saw that it was it. 203 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith, in one of the more ridiculous commentaries, 204 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: was saying that, you know, Trump's been calling on the 205 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: Washington commanders to to change their name. 206 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 4: You know what, you know what that's all about. 207 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 6: I think it's be in evasive because the reality is 208 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 6: that no matter how good he wants people to believe 209 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 6: things are, with the big beautiful Bill and other things 210 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 6: that have been transpiring, tariff wars, the border issues or whatever. 211 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 6: If you're on the right, obviously you're happy with a 212 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 6: lot of things that are going on, and there's nothing 213 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 6: to take credit away from that. I leave the political 214 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 6: evaluations to other people. But nevertheless, there are millions upon 215 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 6: millions of people in the United States of America that 216 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 6: are not necessarily happy with some of the things that 217 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 6: he's doing. 218 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 4: So what does he do. 219 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 6: He caters to his base, because when you look at 220 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 6: the White the Redskins name obviously is something that needed 221 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 6: to be changed, and by him bringing that issue up, 222 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 6: we all know from a political landscape it's much ado 223 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 6: about nothing. It's just him catering to his base to 224 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 6: make sure that he serves to appease them in some way, 225 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 6: to distract them from other issues, including the Epstein files 226 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 6: by them. 227 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: He just said he wasn't into the political of it, 228 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: but ESPN Stephen A. Smith then gets into the political 229 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: of it and gets it completely wrong. 230 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 4: I mean completely wrong. 231 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: If you were to say to me that the release 232 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: of information. 233 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 4: Regarding MLK, regarding. 234 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: This about Russia Russia Russia was a distraction from Epstein, 235 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,479 Speaker 1: look at how transparent being See we're already being transparent. 236 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: Why are you discussing transparency? Look at all the transparency 237 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: I could see it. But wanting the Washington Redskins name 238 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: to come back instead of the Washington Commanders is because 239 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: all This woke nonsense is garbage. Somebody can have two 240 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: thoughts in their head at the same time. This is 241 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: standard operating Trump. This is just the way he is 242 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: and everybody knows this. This has nothing to do with 243 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. What a silly argument being made by Steven A. 244 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 4: Smith? 245 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: Here, What an amateurish argument being made by Steven A. 246 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 4: Smith? 247 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: The name Redskins didn't have to go. Why don't we 248 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: ask Native Americans what they think? Because many are on 249 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: the record saying. 250 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 4: Why would we get rid of the name? Why in 251 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 4: the world would we erase ourselves this way? 252 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: Maybe other things can be done, Smarter things can be done, better, 253 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: things can be done other than full erasure of of 254 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: the Redskins of the Indians. It's it's a standard Trump 255 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: move that has nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. 256 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 4: It has to do with. 257 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: Somebody asked him a question and he knew exactly where 258 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: he wanted to be, as if it was a Pavlovian response. 259 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 4: Steven, I'm not gonna tell you to stick to sports. 260 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 4: I don't I don't do that. 261 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, if you're gonna do this stuff, 262 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: you've got to be better at it because this is 263 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: not an intellectual approach. 264 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 4: This was that is nonsense. 265 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: And the idea that you get paid millions for that, 266 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: Holy hell, man, where do I sign up be wrong 267 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: and get paid who that's a that's a sweet deal. 268 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be the Redskins name again, 269 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: but the idea that that's a Epstein covers is nonsense. 270 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: I do wonder about this with Mlka and the Odie 271 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: and I stuff. Just one day after the next, just 272 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: a week after promises about Epstein that I could more 273 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: tie together, keep it here. I'm Tony Katz, and this 274 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: is Tony Katz today