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Speaker 3: Vance and he was doing an interview on Fox News

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Speaker 3: Fox polling unreliable. Can we play the rest of that clip, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: I want to go on because he's asked about running

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Speaker 4: He's my vice president. Of course he's going to be

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Speaker 1: Well, I think the President is very smartly saying we've

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Speaker 1: As you said, Look, Marco is my closest friend the administration.

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Speaker 1: So one of the things that I don't like about

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Speaker 3: So that's a smart answer. He's saying, let me do

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Speaker 3: It's like when I say, hey, Jim, can you take

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Speaker 4: Or that is an actual verbatim conversation that's happened in it.

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Speaker 3: And I also thought it was really interesting that every

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Speaker 4: In fact, he even goes and say he's my best

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Speaker 4: Part of the articles and part of the talk about

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Speaker 4: that was, oh, look at how big of an idiot

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Speaker 4: she is on the world stage and she wants to

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Speaker 4: run for president in twenty twenty eight, So what does

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Speaker 4: she do stop talking about me being an idiot. Let's

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Speaker 4: talk about me running for president. And that was a

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Speaker 4: smart funds changing the conversation. Smart on her part. But

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Speaker 4: she's going to pull the wool over people's eyes. But

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Speaker 4: she took that, and no, I'm not running for president.

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Speaker 4: Ignore the fact that I sounded like a blathering idiot

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Speaker 4: in front of the whole world. Don't look over there.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about how I really don't have any presidential aspirations, which,

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Speaker 4: by the way, may be a big fat lie, may not,

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Speaker 4: but it helps change the conversation from her being dumb

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Speaker 4: to her and whether or not she wants to run

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Speaker 4: for president twenty.

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Speaker 3: So it goes back to there's no such thing as

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Speaker 3: bad publicity.

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Speaker 2: No, I think this is all publicity. Is publicity.

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Speaker 4: No, I think this was bad publicity for I think

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Speaker 4: this is damage control. Though she's playing damage really she

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Speaker 4: is now and she is trying to change the conversation

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Speaker 4: from I sounded like a big fat idiot in Munich too. Ah,

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Speaker 4: I really don't want to run for president in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about my presidential aspirations, not the fact that

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Speaker 4: I have no clue that Venezuela is above the equator.

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Speaker 3: Well, now she's going to have to do some damage

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Speaker 3: control and demonstrate that she does have strong command of

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Speaker 3: geopolitical facts and map maps as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe she does as certainly if she wants to

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Speaker 4: run for president somewhere, if she wants to run for president,

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Speaker 4: did her homework. Yeah, obviously she's going to have to

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Speaker 4: button up some details on there. But look, this is AOC.

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Speaker 4: She's in a massively liberal district in New York City.

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Speaker 4: She can be as big of an idiot as she

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Speaker 4: wants to be, and she can go back to her

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Speaker 4: home district in the midterms here in twenty twenty six

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Speaker 4: and walk away with that election without really probably having

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Speaker 4: to lift a finger at all. Those people are going

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Speaker 4: to reelect her no matter what she does in Munich