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Speaker 1: When audit the entire government becomes your campaign message, it

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Speaker 1: So you've got the rise of the audit the government campaigns.

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Speaker 1: And that's not just about physical responsibility. It really is

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Speaker 1: people want outsiders checking the books. And that's what we've

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Speaker 1: got here in Indiana. Good morning, it is Casey and Jim.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. Darren Vote he

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Speaker 1: is a conservative businessman and he has announced that he's

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Speaker 1: running for Indiana State Senate and he unveiled his plan

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Speaker 1: called the Great Hoosier Audit, and the idea is to

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Speaker 1: have an independent review of Indiana state government to find waste, fraud,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot going on here.

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Speaker 3: So Darren Votes running in Indiana State Senate District fifteen,

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Speaker 3: which is currently held and he's.

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Speaker 2: Running as a Republican.

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Speaker 3: So he's running against incumbent Republican Liz Brown. And you

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Speaker 3: may think to yourself, oh, that's probably part of all

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Speaker 3: of those Republicans that are being primary because of redistricting

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Speaker 4: Actually not, Actually, Liz Brown was in favor of.

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Speaker 3: Liz Brown was extraordinarily vocal and in favor of redistricting.

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Speaker 3: This actually goes back farther than that. If you remember,

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Speaker 3: during last year's General Assembly, there was a anti illegal

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Speaker 3: the Attorney General Indiana Attorney General Todd Roketa very upset,

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Speaker 3: member who was an illegal alien, and then a Liz

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Speaker 3: really what this is coming all down to and that's

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Speaker 3: really what's driving Darren Vote to challenge Liz Brown for

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Speaker 3: the Senate seat in District fifteen. His platform, though, is

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Speaker 4: The great who's your audit? He says.

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Speaker 1: He wants an outside group to do the audit and

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Speaker 1: check all state agencies. He wants the audit to use

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Speaker 4: He said this would.

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Speaker 1: Help make sure that tax dollars are spent how voters expect.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, hoo's your should demand that they're elected officials

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Speaker 1: justify every single dollar spent because you know, every single

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is so let's look at this from

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Speaker 1: He contrasted his plan with her, saying that she hasn't

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Speaker 3: If you're going to challenge a Republican incumbent, he's got

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Speaker 1: Like they all run on financial conservatism though until they

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Speaker 3: Love Republicans love to talk about this fiscal conservatism. Then

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Speaker 3: Adversaries, China, Russia, North Korea, they're not going to regulate IAI.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean, you're right, regulations should protect the citizens,

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Speaker 1: People use AI many daily, and even the ones who

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think AI regulation at the consumer level makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Nearly sixty percent said AI affects their opinions and decisions sometimes,

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Speaker 1: Of course, just on the news, they were talking about

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Speaker 4: I want to share this woman. She's ditching rent.

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Speaker 1: She's living in a hotel, and according to her, it's

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Speaker 4: An apartment rent or even mortgage.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I live in this hotel. Yes, I paid three

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Speaker 6: No, I didn't have to pay a deposit.

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Speaker 5: I didn't have to do a credit check. I didn't

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Speaker 5: And because I've been doing this for over two and

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Speaker 3: Yes, I can cook.

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Speaker 5: There's two eyes on the stove.

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Speaker 5: And yes, I can receive my mail and packages.

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Speaker 1: I remember when I first moved to Indianapolis and I

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Speaker 4: I think the only problem there wasn't a garage.

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Speaker 1: No deposit, no credit check, no utilities, wi fis included,

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Speaker 2: Twenty five dollars a day that I paid to Enterprise.

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Speaker 3: So maybe specific like facts that are good for specific

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Speaker 2: No way am I living in a hotel all the time.

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Speaker 1: Noah, you get free breakfast, even though the Continental we

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Speaker 3: A lot of free breakfast. But you get a hotel,

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Speaker 4: So, speaking of life hacks, you had Fox fifty nine.

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Speaker 4: This is if you're doing online shop.

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Speaker 2: I've done that before, really intentionally. I put it in

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Speaker 3: There are certain things where I put it in my

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Speaker 4: Nice deal.

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Speaker 2: I'll give one more suggestion there.

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Speaker 3: If you've got a specific place that you buy from,

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Speaker 4: You're listening to Casey and Jim. It is ninety three WIBC. Hey,

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Speaker 4: guess what.

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis ranking low on another survey this time.

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Speaker 3: Is why can't we ever get based on your tone

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Speaker 3: and demeanor? I'm going to say that this isn't like,

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Speaker 1: Well no, I mean, you know, we're seventy second out

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Speaker 1: where Indianapolis ranks according to street safety from Vision zero

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Speaker 1: you can preach safety all you want, but when a

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Speaker 3: Of the problems exactly. That's got to be a huge

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Speaker 3: this is really just a Vision zero. It's a pr campaign.

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Speaker 3: There's no funding, there's no enforcement to this of any

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Speaker 1: Ranking is based on factors like how many miles people drive,

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Speaker 1: do we have an infrastructure problem? And this Vision Zero,

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Speaker 1: this policy framework, that's that's not going to fix it.

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Speaker 4: You're right, this is just this is just a message.

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Speaker 2: Hey be careful, right right?

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Speaker 4: Oh well I wasn't before, but now since you told me, oh.

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Speaker 3: Okay, exactly Remember how effective the say no to drugs

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Speaker 4: So you've got some pedestrian safety advocates.

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Speaker 1: They that the efforts have been really slow and they're

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with that. I think

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Speaker 3: They've made it very clear they do not want traffic

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Speaker 2: And we had the story earlier and.

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Speaker 4: They're getting it because people are leaving.

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Speaker 1: Exactly five percent of the buildings in Indianapolis are empty.

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Speaker 2: So we're not accomplishing either.

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Speaker 3: We want Indianapolis to be this vibrant growth city, but

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Speaker 2: But we're also making it very dangerous.

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Speaker 3: One of the biggest things that the city did last

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Speaker 1: So yeah, they're saying, don't bring your car down here,

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Speaker 1: but you come down here.

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Speaker 2: You come down here.

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Speaker 3: But we're going to do bike lanes and we're going

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Speaker 1: Your vehicle, but we want you. It's mixed messaging, is

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Speaker 2: I'm not left handed, you're not left handed.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a lefty. I there's a National left Hander's Day.

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Speaker 4: I think it's August fifteenth.

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Speaker 2: That sounds about right.

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Speaker 4: Why do I know that?

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Speaker 1: That's one of those things that noodled in my brain

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Speaker 3: Only ten percent of the population is left handed, so

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Speaker 1: So there was a study that came out and it

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Speaker 1: right handers. I don't believe that for a minute. I

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Speaker 1: don't think biology determines your destiny like that. Effort does well,

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Speaker 2: Are you calling it?

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Speaker 3: No, No, Well, look, left handers have traditionally had an

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Speaker 3: But everything else in the world, Look, it must be

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Speaker 1: Being right handers, we're more likely to avoid competition due

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Speaker 4: Oh give me a break, I'm not Are you right

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Speaker 2: How would I know?

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Speaker 1: I think it's when you get up and walk, the

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Speaker 3: Okay, Now I do have anxiety because I've never thought

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Speaker 4: Here, you're strong foot, but I right footed. Left footed.

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Speaker 2: Am not hand soccer? Okay, that makes sense, But I

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Speaker 4: Much stronger left footed kicker than a right footed kicker.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So when we go to break, we just loved that.

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Speaker 3: When we go to break, I'm going to stand up

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Speaker 1: Well, will she be putting her best foot forward, pam BONDI,

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Speaker 4: We'll talk about that coming up. It is ninety three WYBC.

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Speaker 7: Mister Chairman, I moved that the Committee issue a subpoena

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Speaker 7: too the Honorable Pamela Joe Bondi to pear before the

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Speaker 7: the Epstein Finals Transparency Act.

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Speaker 2: Motion has been made.

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Speaker 3: The Committee will hold this motion in advance until the

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Speaker 2: The Committee will no out proceed with today's hearing.

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Speaker 7: Mister Chairman, I move that the Committee issue a subpoena

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Speaker 7: to the.

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Speaker 8: Office of Congressional Workplace Rights for the awards and settlements

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Speaker 8: paid pursuant to Section four one five of the Congressional

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Speaker 8: Accountability Act prior to December twelve, twenty eighteen, with only

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Speaker 4: Thank you, ma'am.

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Speaker 1: Transparency is an optional, especially when you considering sensitive evidence.

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Speaker 1: deserve the answers, not redactions, not delays. If the files

445
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Speaker 1: are complete, people suspect something is buried. If the files

446
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Speaker 1: are incomplete, people assume powerful names.

447
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Speaker 4: Are being protected. But it's very clear that.

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Speaker 1: Americans across all political spectrums no longer trust that powerful

449
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Speaker 1: people are ever going to fully expose other powerful people.

450
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Speaker 4: It's one big club and you're not in it.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, we're not getting any satisfaction and no

452
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Speaker 3: justice and accountability as it relates to these Epstein files.

453
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Speaker 3: So I'm all for them just putting subpoenaing everybody associated

454
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Speaker 3: with them and getting them to talk on the record

455
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Speaker 3: and under oath about everything they know. So I fully

456
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Speaker 3: support putting Pambondy up there. Again, this was a This

457
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Speaker 3: was a law that was passed that Donald Trump signed

458
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Speaker 3: into law to release these Epstein files. What I found

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Speaker 3: interesting about this is that once this vote took place,

460
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Speaker 3: where they would subpoena Pambondi and ask her about more

461
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Speaker 3: Epstein files. All of a sudden, the dj came out

462
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Speaker 3: yesterday and said, oh, yeah, by the way, we're going

463
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Speaker 3: to review an additional fifty thousand pages of Epstein files

464
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Speaker 3: and we might release some of that information from it.

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Speaker 3: But look, the DOJ probably wouldn't have come out with

466
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Speaker 3: that statement about the additional fifty thousand Epstein files if

467
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Speaker 3: they hadn't decided and voted to subpoena Pambondy. So I

468
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Speaker 3: think in some ways this is working, and on the

469
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Speaker 3: surface it may look like it's not because you get

470
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Speaker 3: these people up there and then it's all just political

471
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Speaker 3: theater like we saw with Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton

472
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Speaker 3: and Lauren Bobert, and there was just a lot of

473
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Speaker 3: nonsense around it. But it is kind of moving the

474
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Speaker 3: leedle in the needle a little bit and getting more

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Speaker 3: files released.

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Speaker 1: So the House Oversight Committee, they voted twenty four to

477
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Speaker 1: nineteen to subpoena the US Attorney General Pam Bondi. She's

478
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Speaker 1: gonna have to testify under oath about how the Department

479
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Speaker 1: of Justice handled the documents tied to the Jeffrey Epstein

480
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Speaker 1: case and The motion was introduced by Representative Nancy Mace

481
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Speaker 1: that's who we just heard. It was passed with all

482
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Speaker 1: Democrats on the committee plus five Republicans joined in. And

483
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Speaker 1: it just shows that the lawmakers, they're frustrated because they

484
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Speaker 1: believe the DOJ is not fully complying with the law

485
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Speaker 1: which requires the release of all of the Epstein related files.

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Speaker 1: And it just shows you that this has become one

487
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Speaker 1: issue and that left wing populists and even right wing

488
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Speaker 1: populists they all agree on this. They think the establishment

489
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Speaker 1: is hiding something and this Epstein saga has turned into

490
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Speaker 1: a credibility crisis for these institutions.

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Speaker 3: And I think you make a really good point there,

492
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Speaker 3: because left wing populist support this, right wing populist support this,

493
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Speaker 3: and there is a grassroots movement that is still there

494
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Speaker 3: among the American people that they want this. That law

495
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Speaker 3: got passed, it was signed into law by Donald Trump.

496
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Speaker 3: Released the Epstein files, and the DOJ has come out

497
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Speaker 3: and is said publicly, hey, by the way, we only

498
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Speaker 3: released about half of them. We got about another three

499
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Speaker 3: three and a half million sitting here that we're not releasing,

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Speaker 3: So come get it from us. And at least somebody

501
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Speaker 3: is doing something about it, putting Pam Bondi up there,

502
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Speaker 3: and the DOJ moved the needle and said that they're

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Speaker 3: going to review an additional fifty thousand documents.

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Speaker 1: Critics on both sides say there's materials, including video, audio,

505
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Speaker 1: and summaries of interviews that appear to be either missing

506
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Speaker 1: or just improperly withheld, and this subpoena would compel bond

507
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Speaker 1: to explain why the Department hasn't turned over all the

508
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Speaker 1: documents and why the released files were handled in the

509
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Speaker 1: way they were. It's not yet clear whether she's going

510
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Speaker 1: to testify or not, or what penalties might follow if

511
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Speaker 1: she doesn't show up. But here is Chuck Schumer, and

512
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Speaker 1: he's saying she doesn't have the right to do this.

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Speaker 9: The way Pam Bondy and the Justice Department have handled

514
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Speaker 9: the release of the Epstein files has all the stench

515
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Speaker 9: of a cover up. Yesterday, news outlets reported that several

516
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Speaker 9: memos detailing a woman's accusation against the president from when

517
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Speaker 9: she was a minor have been withheld from the public.

518
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Speaker 9: We know these exit memos exist, an index of all

519
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Speaker 9: the investigative materials confirm their existence, and under law the

520
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Speaker 9: law we passed unanimously here in the Senate. They need

521
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Speaker 9: to be made public. Pam BONDI does not have the

522
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Speaker 9: right to pick and choose which Epstein files to release

523
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Speaker 9: to the public.

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Speaker 4: This one's gonna hurt me so much. It's gonna hurt

525
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 4: and it may hurt you too. I agree with Chuck Schumer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with Chuck Schumer. I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 3: But I'm also I'm not giving Chuck Schumer a pass

528
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Speaker 3: because you didn't hear peep out of Chuck Schumer. For

529
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Speaker 3: four years when the Democrats had both the House and

530
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Speaker 3: the Senate and the presidency four years under Joe Biden,

531
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Speaker 3: they had every lever of the government to be able

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Speaker 3: to release these files. We never heard a word about

533
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Speaker 3: this from Chuck Schumer. All of a sudden, the Republicans

534
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Speaker 3: get into office. Oh, by the way, the Republicans passed

535
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Speaker 3: the bill to release these Epstein files. And now Schumer

536
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Speaker 3: wants to come in at the eleventh hour and.

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Speaker 2: Go, yeah, yeah, you gotta do that. Yeah, I'm with

538
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Speaker 2: these guys now.

539
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Speaker 3: Putting Burgers on the grill, that's what he was busy doing,

540
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Speaker 3: putting Rabberger's on the grill. We're trying to pass him

541
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Speaker 3: off like he's a you know, some common man. No,

542
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Speaker 3: you kept your mouth shut for ages, Chuck Schumer. And

543
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Speaker 3: now that we're at the goal line here, you're like.

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Speaker 2: Han me the ball. Oh, I'll take it across the

545
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Speaker 2: goal line.

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Speaker 4: Okay. So we have to talk about this other House bill.

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Speaker 1: They voted three hundred and fifty seven to sixty four

548
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Speaker 1: to refer our resolution to committee.

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Speaker 4: Well would have done.

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Speaker 1: It effectively killed the proposal to publicly release any congressional

551
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Speaker 1: sexual misconduct and harassment reports. So Congress acts like they're

552
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Speaker 1: a watchdog, but in reality it's more like a protection club.

553
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Speaker 1: They don't want the information getting out. What a terrible

554
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Speaker 1: there's slush funds to cover it up.

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Speaker 3: What a terrible look this is. And you can I'd

556
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Speaker 3: like to sit here and say, oh, you know what,

557
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 3: blame the Republicans for this, or we get to blame

558
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 3: the Democrats for this. It was three hundred and fifty

559
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Speaker 3: seven to sixty five to not release this information. So

560
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Speaker 3: it's Republicans, it's Democrats, it's just about everybody in Congress

561
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Speaker 3: that doesn't want their dirty laundry aired out there.

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Speaker 2: We just had this huge issue with the.

563
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Speaker 3: GOP Representative Sanchez has now finally come out in Jallas.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Gonzales, thank you that just yesterday finally came

565
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 3: out where he admitted having an affair with a staffer

566
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Speaker 3: on his congressional staff. That woman unfortunately ended up committing suicide.

567
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Speaker 3: And you had Mike Johnson come out in full support

568
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Speaker 3: of this, did not call on him to resign. Nothing,

569
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Speaker 3: And now here we are two weeks later where the

570
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Speaker 3: House of Representatives is.

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Speaker 2: Like, no, we don't care.

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Speaker 3: I know that there's a whole bunch of documents here

573
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Speaker 3: that talk about how our members have been accused of

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Speaker 3: sexual harassment, but we're going to keep him from the

575
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Speaker 3: American public.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you've got this resolution. It was sponsored by

577
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Speaker 1: Nancy Mayce. She wanted to force the House Ethics Committee

578
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Speaker 1: to make all the reports public within sixty days, with

579
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Speaker 1: all of the personal info redacted. And they said, nope, nope,

580
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Speaker 1: we're not going to do that. And isn't it interesting

581
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: because they often demand transparency from corporations, we wanted from

582
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Speaker 1: the military and even the president, but they're going to

583
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Speaker 1: draw the line when the transparency might expose its own members.

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Speaker 4: They're like, oh, yeah, no, you play by the rules

585
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Speaker 4: of what us. Oh no, no, you can't. You don't

586
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Speaker 4: get that information. Sorry, no, Yeah.

587
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Speaker 3: And I've had some problems with certain stances that Nancy

588
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Speaker 3: Mace has had over the years and some certain things

589
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Speaker 3: that she's done. But I want to give her a

590
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Speaker 3: lot of credit here because she's been consistent on this

591
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 3: area of transparency as it relates to both subjects that

592
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Speaker 3: we just talked about, the Epstein files and publicly releasing

593
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 3: all sexual misconduct and harassment reports on members of Congress.

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Speaker 3: She has been a prominent supporter of the transparency as

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Speaker 3: it relates to those two. And thank goodness she has been,

596
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 3: because there haven't been many people out there that have

597
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: done this. Nancy mayce Rocanna on the Democrat side, Thomas

598
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Speaker 3: Massey on the Republican side.

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Speaker 1: So here you've got Representative Luna and she's saying that

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Speaker 1: it's really disgusting how the institution protects itself.

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Speaker 4: All Right.

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Speaker 10: I support Representative Mace's subpoena here as well as amendment

603
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Speaker 10: to it. And I just think it's really disgusting how

604
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Speaker 10: this institution protects itself, because y'all just half of them

605
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Speaker 10: voted to send this stuff to House ethics where you

606
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Speaker 10: know it's gonna die. We know that members of Congress

607
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 10: are using taxpayer dollars to pay off sexual harassment. We

608
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 10: just had a member of Congress literally sexually harassment woe

609
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Speaker 10: that then let herself on fire, and you guys all

610
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 10: protected him. You guys all protect him, my own side,

611
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Speaker 10: your side. And so if you guys want to talk

612
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 10: about victims, if you want to go out in virtue signal,

613
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Speaker 10: and then you guys are going to kill her stuff

614
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Speaker 10: on the floor and then try to pass it. Yeah,

615
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 10: of course we should subpoena all this stuff. But I'm

616
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Speaker 10: not going to sit here and play games. I think

617
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 10: it's a complete fraud. I think that's why the American

618
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 10: people hate US. I think the midterms are coming up

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Speaker 10: and everyone should go on record for this, and I

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Speaker 10: hope that members are exposed for US. I hope it

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Speaker 10: goes back. I think it to the seventies because it's

622
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Speaker 10: wrong that it's happening. It's wrong that we cover up

623
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Speaker 10: for it. It's wrong that we can't center our own

624
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Speaker 10: side because people are busy making deals. Because you guys

625
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 10: want to center your side, it's a deal that's been cutting.

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Speaker 10: People hate us for it, So, yeah, I support it.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting that she pointed out how long they could go.

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Speaker 3: Back, right to the seventies. Yeah, and I love what

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Speaker 3: she said there. This is the reason why people hate us. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're exactly right, because this isn't a partisan issue here.

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Speaker 3: You had Democrats, liberals, conservatives, Republicans all voting to cover

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Speaker 3: this up.

633
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Speaker 2: And keep this information buried.

634
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Speaker 3: Everybody on both sides of the political spectrum should be

635
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: outraged on this, and she is exactly right. This is

636
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Speaker 3: a major reason why the American people hate politicians.

637
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Speaker 2: And it's really a huge reason why you.

638
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: See Congress's approval ratings lower than anybody else, lower than

639
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: the Supreme Court, lower than President Trump's, lower than everybody.

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Speaker 2: People do not like Congress.

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Speaker 1: So another thing that's happening with the Justice Department is

642
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Speaker 1: that they have somewhat quietly closed the investigation into whether

643
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Speaker 1: former President Joe Biden or his aides improperly used the

644
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Speaker 1: auto pen. He did this for pardons. Multiple reports noted

645
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Speaker 1: that he did this. The probe was opened by the

646
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Speaker 1: request of Donald Trump. He pushed for it. He claimed

647
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Speaker 1: that Biden's use of the autopen could hide cognitive decline

648
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Speaker 1: and make big actions legally questionable. But now prosecut in

649
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Speaker 1: the US Attorney's Office for Washington, d C. They couldn't

650
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Speaker 1: identify a criminal statute for the charge.

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Speaker 3: Which is the most shocking part of all of this.

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Speaker 3: There's not one law on the books anywhere. How many

653
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Speaker 3: laws do we have. If you put all the laws

654
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Speaker 3: on a piece of paper and it filled this entire

655
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Speaker 3: room and probably one hundred more rooms just as big

656
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Speaker 3: as this one that we're in right now, we got

657
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Speaker 3: nothing but all kinds of laws everywhere, and not one

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Speaker 3: of them says, hey, by the way, when the president

659
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 3: signs a bill, he's actually got to sign it.

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Speaker 2: He can't have a machine signing.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 1: I it's interesting though, the way that this is playing

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Speaker 1: out like that was a bit.

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Speaker 4: He put a picture on the wall of the auto.

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Speaker 3: Ped Trump did, yeah, instead of when he had the

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Speaker 3: hallway with all the photographs of the presidents, and instead

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Speaker 3: of Joe Biden's photograph, it was a picture of an

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Speaker 3: auto ped Look.

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Speaker 2: I think it's awful. I think it's terrible.

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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, if there's no

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Speaker 3: law that we can take to a court and say.

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Speaker 4: Hey, it was never even presented to a grand jury.

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Speaker 2: And look, grand jury, it was shut down.

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Speaker 3: Most attorneys will tell you it's pretty easy to get

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Speaker 3: a grand jury to give you an indictment. Now getting

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Speaker 3: a conviction on something is a totally different area, but

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Speaker 3: just getting a basic indictment not that difficult. So if

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Speaker 3: they can't even get that, if they can't even find

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Speaker 3: the documents and the law to be able to get

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Speaker 3: a grand jury indictment, I'm just floored here that this

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Speaker 3: is gonna Joe Biden. Joe Biden's gonna get away with this.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna get away. Who knows if he actually even

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Speaker 3: knew what the auto pen was signing for him. So

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Speaker 3: my big takeaway from this is there needs to be

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Speaker 3: an outcry from the public that to get with our

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Speaker 3: congressman to write a law on this, because this could

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Speaker 3: be this could be abused and probably was abused under

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Speaker 3: the Joe Biden administration, but this could be abused by

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Speaker 3: congressional staffers and presidential staffers going forward.

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Speaker 1: So Paramount Skydance has agreed to buy Warner Brothers Discovery.

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Speaker 1: It's a roughly one hundred and ten billion dollar deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so here's included in this.

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Speaker 3: By the way, CBS, and I'm talking the national network

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Speaker 3: and local affiliates, CBS News, CBS Sport. You've got cable

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Speaker 3: outlets like beet Nickelodeon, MTV, Comedy Central, CNN, HBO.

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Speaker 2: And one of the.

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Speaker 3: Funniest things about this, so if you've ever downloaded the

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Speaker 3: HBO app, there's been an outroar on social media the

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Speaker 3: way I gonna call it, yeah, the last several years,

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Speaker 3: because it was called HBO Max and then it was

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Speaker 3: HBO and then it was just Max and now they've

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Speaker 3: moved it back to HBO Max. And now that this

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Speaker 3: whole merger is part of this, they've come out and

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Speaker 3: said that if there's a merger goes goes through, they're

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Speaker 3: going to merge the Paramount Plus app with the HBO

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Speaker 3: Max app. And so now we as consumers, we have

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Speaker 3: the prospect of another name for this app again.

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Speaker 4: So it's going to be Paramax h Mount Hbo that one.

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Speaker 3: I like better than any of a mount HBO. This

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Speaker 3: is a big deal because especially when it comes to news,

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Speaker 3: because if this merger goes through, it will put CBS

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Speaker 3: News and CNN under the same corporate ownership.

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Speaker 2: That is a big, big deal.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to also combine hundreds of millions of

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Speaker 1: subscribers over two hundred million worldwide massive library of content

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Speaker 1: as well Paramount HBO, all of the Warner Brothers Discovery brands.

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Speaker 1: But there's also the scary side that you've got this huge, big,

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Speaker 1: medium merger with one owner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and here's the other thing, and I think it's

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Speaker 3: the chances are very high that this will pass regulatory

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Speaker 3: approval and this merger will go through.

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Speaker 4: It It's going to be a streaming giant.

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Speaker 3: And one of the reasons why this merger will probably

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Speaker 3: go through and won't catch the eye of the regulators.

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Speaker 2: Everybody in the world is.

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Speaker 3: A little distracted right now with what's going on in Iran,

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Speaker 3: and that affects how the rest of our government works.

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Speaker 3: When we don't have the attention space to shine a

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Speaker 3: spotlight on other issues we want to, things will just

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Speaker 3: keep moving along. So there's a high likelihood that this

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Speaker 3: merger is going to pass. We're going to see CNN

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Speaker 3: and CBS under the same corporate umbrella, and a lot

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Speaker 3: of entertainment too. Some brands you'll be familiar with, Mission Impossible, Transformers,

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Speaker 3: Star Trek, SpongeBob, SquarePants, all awesome intellectual property.

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Speaker 2: That's part of this.

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Speaker 3: Hey, don't start messing with SpongeBob SquarePants, all right.

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Speaker 1: Whenever I hear a SpongeBob SquarePants, I always think of him.

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Speaker 4: I'm normal.

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Speaker 9: Hi.

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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 3: When SpongeBob he instead of instead of being square, he

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Speaker 3: kind of got rounded edges, and Hi, this is me

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Speaker 3: being normal.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to ninety three WIBC. So you've got gen

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Speaker 1: z flocking to China, Chinese medicine. This as the trust

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Speaker 1: in the US health system is plumbing, and it's called

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Speaker 1: China maxing, and.

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Speaker 4: It's a new it's a new craze.

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Speaker 1: Uh. It's burned on by influencers, and it shows that

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Speaker 1: a lot of Americans aren't just curious about their wellness trends.

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Speaker 1: They're projecting their distrust on the UF health health system

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Speaker 1: onto everything else that they do.

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Speaker 4: It Also, I don't know, maybe to.

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Speaker 1: Younger people might feel exotic or authentic. It's anti big pharma,

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Speaker 1: so they're trying other alternatives.

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Speaker 3: This is this is a problem. Because we talked. A

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, we had the passing of actor

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Speaker 3: James Vanderbeek. He passed away from colorectal cancer, and there

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Speaker 3: were reports that came out that said that he passed

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Speaker 3: on traditional cancer treatments and went toward more non traditional

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Speaker 3: Eastern homeopathic methods to treat his cancer and it didn't work.

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Speaker 3: We know Steve Jobs as well, when he developed pancreatic cancer.

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Speaker 3: It came out that he also did the same thing,

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Speaker 3: didn't take the normal traditional Western medicine roots, went the

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Speaker 3: holistic Eastern medicine root, and he passed away very quickly

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Speaker 3: after his pancreatic cancer diagnosis. So I look, I look

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Speaker 3: the US medical system. We got problems, Big pharma, there's problems.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to say it's perfect by a long shot,

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Speaker 3: But if you're having a serious medical issue, one that

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Speaker 3: is even potentially life threatening, as somebody who's been through that,

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Speaker 3: you find a new appreciation for our medical system and

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Speaker 3: our great doctors that we have here in this country,

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Speaker 3: and even find an appreciation for big pharma because there

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Speaker 3: are drugs that not only can alleviate your pain, but

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Speaker 3: save your life. And if you're looking to go down

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Speaker 3: the you know, holistic tea and herbal medicine route and

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Speaker 3: acupuncture in all of these things that don't have the

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Speaker 3: track record of Western medicine, you're setting yourself up. And look,

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Speaker 3: I get if you've got some chronic thing that's not

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Speaker 3: life threatening and you've tried doctors and everything that they've

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Speaker 3: suggested to you and it's still not working, Okay, then

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Speaker 3: I can see an argument for well, I might as

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Speaker 3: well give this a shot because I'm not getting cured

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Speaker 3: any other way. But when you're talking about life threatening,

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Speaker 3: life threatening cancer diagnosis, you are going to be very

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Speaker 3: appreciative at how good our medical care is.

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Speaker 4: When you're talking about a sigmoid ectomy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for example, somebody who's speaking of somebody who's had

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Speaker 3: two of those within a year. Yeah, you're really happy

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Speaker 3: that we do have the best medicine in the world.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 3: There's a reason why people come from Canada and You're

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Speaker 3: and Asia to this country to get medical care for

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Speaker 3: life threatening diseases, because we do have the best medical

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Speaker 3: care in the world.

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Speaker 1: Yep. But still you've got these young Americans, especially gen Z,

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Speaker 1: that are embracing they call it TCM, traditional Chinese medicine

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Speaker 1: and also Chinese wellness practices.

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Speaker 4: But it's you've got these TikTokers.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're encouraging gen Z to drink hot water

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Speaker 1: or cupping therapy, and it's almost like it's an act

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Speaker 1: of rebellion against the US healthcare system. I think it

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Speaker 1: says less about Chinese medicine and more about how badly

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Speaker 1: Americans feel abandoned by our own institution.

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Speaker 3: Jegoh, you are spot on with that. And we see

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Speaker 3: it with politics too. We've seen distrust in our political system,

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Speaker 3: which is why you're seeing so many people that are

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Speaker 3: moving to be independents or calling for a major third

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Speaker 3: party in this country, it's very similar thing. It's it's

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Speaker 3: it's it's it's it's not an indict it's an indictment

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Speaker 3: of the way things have gone here in this country.

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Speaker 1: You have to be very careful about how you romanticize

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Speaker 1: your health care or in some cases don't oversimplify it

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Speaker 1: because doctors have information that you don't and also years

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Speaker 1: of experience that even chat GPT doesn't have. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: something you do in tandem. You know, you want to

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Speaker 1: take personal responsibility. You have to make sure your health

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Speaker 1: decisions are grounded and evidence.

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Speaker 3: Evidence, scientific based evidence. And again if this is some no.

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Speaker 1: I mean you can't trust your life to a viral

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Speaker 1: fat fat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, or somebody on social media or TikTok video

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Speaker 3: that you see, go see a licensed professional doctor. And again,

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Speaker 3: if this is a non life threatening problem that you're

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Speaker 3: having and traditional American medicine isn't working for you, well

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Speaker 3: then what do you got to lose by using some

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Speaker 3: Chinese medicine? But I think when it comes to life

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Speaker 3: saving care, you're going to be very happy.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to follow the oversimplified advice from social media.

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Speaker 2: You're going to be very happy with substitute the wonderful doctors.

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Speaker 3: That we have in this country that are do an

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Speaker 3: amazing job and save people's lives every single day.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So we've got a music icon, Sting coming to Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: This was announced this fall.

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Speaker 1: It's part of the Sting three point zero Tour. Concert's

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Speaker 1: going to be at the Morot Theater. It will happen

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Speaker 1: in October. Seventeen Grammy Awards he has won. He promises

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Speaker 1: to sing all the songs, all the classics. Every breath

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Speaker 1: you take feels a gold message in a bottle. Tour

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Speaker 1: is going to feature a three piece band. Hey, we're

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Speaker 1: a three piece band. It's time for us to say goodbye.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. Jim Thank you Kevin, thank you for listening today.

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Speaker 4: This is ninety three e WYBC

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