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Speaker 1: Live from Dall, Heartland and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz Today. A trade deal with Japan is

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Speaker 2: good stuff. I'm happy to see it. I want to

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Speaker 2: see more of it. Mostly I want to see what

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Speaker 2: it is that Japan buys. Tony Kats Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 2: good to be with You find everything at tonykatz dot com.

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Speaker 2: The reason I spring this up is that I'm not

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Speaker 2: interested in pouring cold water over these conversations, these deals

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Speaker 2: to deal with the Philippines, deal with Japan, five hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty billion dollars worth of investment where somehow the

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Speaker 2: US is going to keep ninety percent of the profits,

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Speaker 2: and I don't I don't quite know how that works.

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Speaker 2: You've got fifteen percent reciprocal taris now instead of twenty

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Speaker 2: five percent, which hopefully will set a lot of certainty

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Speaker 2: with businesses so they can get back to a level

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Speaker 2: manufacturing we've had manufacturing down for four months in a row,

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Speaker 2: maybe levels of buying, et cetera. Whatever they're buying from Japan.

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Speaker 2: And does this then have an effect on a deal

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Speaker 2: with China where you can get some of that under

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Speaker 2: control in terms of certainty, It's said every time we're

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Speaker 2: told that, oh, they're going to open up markets to

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Speaker 2: the US. Right, they're going to open up markets in

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Speaker 2: Japan for autos and rice, which is pretty impressive. Then

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Speaker 2: the Philippines they're going to open up tariffs. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're going to open up markets to all US products

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Speaker 2: and no tariffs on American products, but Philippine products will

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Speaker 2: have a is it seventeen percent or nineteen percent tariff

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Speaker 2: on them coming into the US. Those parts of these things,

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Speaker 2: I do not know if they make people feel good

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Speaker 2: or maybe they say to themselves, okay, that's done. Now we

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Speaker 2: could say certitude, even if we don't know if they're

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Speaker 2: going to buy anything to me, I'm interested in the

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Speaker 2: buying part that a market gets open to me is

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Speaker 2: not as that's only step one. We should really that's

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Speaker 2: the point. I shouldn't pour cold water on it to

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Speaker 2: utilize a terrible cliche. That's a good thing. We should

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Speaker 2: recognize that that's a good thing. I want to know

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Speaker 2: whether or not the American producer of name the product

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Speaker 2: thinks that that matters to them. Just because the Philippines

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Speaker 2: or Japan opens a market, the UK opens a market,

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Speaker 2: will people buy? Doesn't that part matter. Maybe the overarching

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Speaker 2: thing is that the Trump administration can announce trade deals done,

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Speaker 2: putting more pressure on China to do a deal, and

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Speaker 2: getting more certainty amongst American manufacturers, American business. That might

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Speaker 2: very well be enough. Have the Olympics become normal? And

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Speaker 2: is late Night really dead? That's coming up next. This

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Speaker 2: is Tony kats Today. I have stated that I'm going

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Speaker 2: to write a book. I'm terrible as a writer. I'm offull.

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Speaker 2: I can write about bourban I can write about barbecue. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's that's easy. It wasn't easy. But to write politically,

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Speaker 2: I just find I start writing and then I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to read this, and then I stop

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Speaker 2: and like I think I have three or four books

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Speaker 2: that I've started four chapters on. I'm like, okay, we're

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Speaker 2: done here, Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be

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Speaker 2: with you. But the new book is gonna be Why

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Speaker 2: is it so hard to be normal? Why can't people

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Speaker 2: just be normal? It's constant and consistent in every part

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Speaker 2: of our politics. Ed Marrissey joins me right now, he's

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Speaker 2: normal kind of from hotair dot Com is where you

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Speaker 2: find him. I've got three things to discuss in a

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Speaker 2: conversation of normal, and we're gonna start with the Olympics,

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Speaker 2: because the US Olympic Committee, as you tell the story,

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Speaker 2: has very quietly, you know, it's Elmer Fudd'd be very

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Speaker 2: very quiet with telling the twoof that was impressive. You

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Speaker 1: Was good.

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Speaker 2: They are going to stop having male athletes in female sports.

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Speaker 2: Is this so we can be normal? We have now

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Speaker 2: gone through this entire world of insanity of somehow men

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Speaker 2: the case, and enough pushback has occurred where we're stopping

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Speaker 2: the insanity. Is that what we're seeing?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's what we're seeing now. They didn't

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Speaker 1: The New York Times had to actually contact them to

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Speaker 1: see if it was legit, and they said yes, we'd had,

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Speaker 1: what was it, respectful and productive conversations with the administration.

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Speaker 1: The US Olympic and Paralympic Committee is federally charted, so

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Speaker 1: they kind of have to follow federal policies when it

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Speaker 1: comes to how they operate, So they have been negotiating this,

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Speaker 1: administration and have decided that they're going to come out

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Speaker 1: in favor of what athletics had been prior to twenty

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Speaker 1: when they started allowing biological males to compete in females spaces. Literally,

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Speaker 1: what we've done for tens of thousands of years until

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Speaker 1: along with our delusions that finally seems to be coming

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Speaker 1: to an end. Now, remember this comes just one year

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Speaker 1: after watching a male boxer beat the living crap out

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Speaker 1: last year in France, I mean, and it shocked people

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Speaker 1: He's fighting in female spaces, and it was clear to

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Speaker 1: was intimidated out of competing because this could do serious

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Speaker 1: a much higher risk when you put men in against women.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why is because men have biological advantages

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Speaker 1: in this particular sport. So this is that was just insanity.

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Speaker 1: So I think in part the USOPC is reacting to

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Speaker 2: the carryover is. And that's the part where I'm seeing

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Speaker 2: the normalcy. I understand because the Olympics are Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: on an Olympics. They're in Los Angeles. But the wrinkle,

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Speaker 2: isn't it massive wrinkle? Incredible, incredible wrinkle, the kind of

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Speaker 2: wrinkles Joan Rivers would have had if she hadn't found plastics.

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Speaker 2: The story is what happens in twenty thirty in twenty

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Speaker 1: It's a possibility. I mean, it may still even be

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Speaker 1: the Olympics in Los Angeles, it's still going to be

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Speaker 1: the IOC. Not to mention the fact that the you know,

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Speaker 1: the governance in Los Angeles, in California is part of

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Speaker 1: that whole radically woke, you know, activist dream that created

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Speaker 1: to do absolutely nothing about it, and it's still refusing

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Speaker 1: to do anything about it. Karen Bass is well, Karen

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Speaker 1: Bass is just Karen Bass, and she's going to have

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Speaker 1: problems anyway staging this Olympics, just simply because of the

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Speaker 1: the Olympics arrived in was it three years and I'm

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Speaker 2: I just don't know if they're going to relocate it

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Speaker 2: out of the United States. That's the question talking to

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Speaker 2: Ed Marscy of hotair dot com. So we don't know

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Speaker 2: if we have normalcy here. We certainly don't have normalcy

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Speaker 2: in Late Night where Stephen Colbert after the announcement that

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Speaker 2: the CBS was getting rid of the entire Late Night franchise,

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Speaker 2: there was conversations about did the show lose forty million dollars.

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Speaker 2: The settlement that took place because of the edited video

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Speaker 2: regarding Kamala Harris, to which CBS was completely and totally

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Speaker 2: in the wrong. Your argument, I've been just discussing this.

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Speaker 2: I think that CBS should end the show immediately. Don't

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Speaker 2: End it and end it now. Your argument is that

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Speaker 2: John Stewart, and I've I have discussed things in and

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean John Stewart's entire response to this on

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Speaker 1: his show. And this is also a Paramount show. It's

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh no, absolutely right. Well blank bleak himself,

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Speaker 2: go blank yourself, go blank yourself, and the choirs behind

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Speaker 2: them and everybody is just having a good old time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, John Stewart's having a good old time. Maybe

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Speaker 1: that small audience in front of him is having a

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Speaker 1: was losing forty million dollars a year. The New York

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Speaker 1: Times had this last week. The Ankler had another piece

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Speaker 1: a few days prior to it becoming known. They'd already

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Speaker 1: made the decision, and it was a business decision. This

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Speaker 1: is the Godfather line. It's not personal, Sonny, It's strictly business.

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Speaker 1: And that's what this is. When you lose forty million

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Speaker 1: And and to your point about you know why they're

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Speaker 1: this week or next week because he keeps inviting guests

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Speaker 1: on now that are going on and on about what

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Speaker 1: a martyr Stephen Colbert is for free speech right, and

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Speaker 1: you know how paramount stinks. I don't think you're going

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Speaker 1: to spend one hundred million dollars or whatever the ten

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Speaker 1: month pro rate cost structure is for that. Maybe you know,

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Speaker 1: eighty million dollars to do brand derogation five nights a week.

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Speaker 2: I got to assume there's a little bit of this

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Speaker 2: having to deal with the unions that work on that

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Speaker 2: show and how you give those guys a soft landing

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Speaker 2: as well. Talking to Edmarscy of hotair dot Com, and

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you if they want them late night programming,

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Speaker 2: I have a fantastic variety program. They're singing, there's dancing,

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Speaker 2: there's juggling, there's acts with water. You know what I

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Speaker 2: call the show?

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Speaker 1: No no, no clue, no notes. What do you call

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Speaker 1: the show?

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Speaker 2: The Aristocrats? God? That felt good.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure your

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Speaker 1: audience is going to get that.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, they will. The greatest audience in all of

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Speaker 2: radio and video and TV right here. Oh they got it?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Oh that felt goods. I do want to hit one

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Speaker 2: more subject with you. Ed Marcy of hotair dot com.

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Speaker 2: And that is that of Jeffrey Epstein. By the way,

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Speaker 2: only I Tony Katz could go from the aristocrats to

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein in the same sentence.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a pretty it's a pretty good segue, actually, though,

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Speaker 1: I give you high marks for the segue as well.

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Speaker 2: Try that NPR the I am one of the people

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Speaker 2: who argued that it's important and imperative that the information

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Speaker 2: about Epstein be released. I think Pam Bondi has done

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Speaker 2: a terrible job with the release. I think the giving

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Speaker 2: the binders a so called influencers was embarrassing. I think

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Speaker 2: President Trump had a rare missed up when he's saying

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Speaker 2: why are we talking about Epstein and going after his

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Speaker 2: own supporters. It was a mistake. Promises made, Promises must

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Speaker 2: be kept. This information about this child predator, who was

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Speaker 2: involved with him, This is stuff we want to know.

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Speaker 2: We cannot have two Americas where some people can get

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Speaker 2: away with the most awful things in the world and

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Speaker 2: some people can't get away with not paying their parking ticket.

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Speaker 2: I'm not interested in that American I do believe that

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Speaker 2: a lot of this got misplayed by the Trump administration.

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Speaker 2: All of that said, the House has to now go

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Speaker 2: into recess a day early because the Democrats want to

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Speaker 2: play politics with the Epstein files. Even though President Trump

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Speaker 2: already told Pambondi to get court permission and release what

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Speaker 2: you can. Democrats want to say release everything and want

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Speaker 2: to push this to a vote so Republicans could vote

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Speaker 2: no on it, so they could say, oh, look, Republicans

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Speaker 2: are trying to hide the Epstein files. Well, they didn't

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Speaker 2: care about the Epstein files for four years. It is,

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Speaker 2: have we now hit the moment ed of Epstein's silliness.

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Speaker 2: I want the information, and these people who are supposed

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Speaker 2: to be our leaders don't seem to give a damn

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Speaker 2: about anything except how they can get some weird political

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Speaker 2: victory that lasts all of five minutes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It's the one really big fumble so

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Speaker 1: far in the Trump administration, is the whole Epstein thing.

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Speaker 1: They're the ones that stirred the pot, right, They're the

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Speaker 1: ones that came out and said, we're going to blow

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Speaker 1: the lid off of this. We're going to name the names,

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Speaker 1: We're going to release the client list. Well, there's no

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Speaker 1: such thing as a client list. As it turns out,

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Speaker 1: the binders were full of stuff that we had already

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Speaker 1: been released, and they knew it at the time. They

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Speaker 1: asked the influencers involved to just, you know, just just

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Speaker 1: keep me kind of quiet right now. But the stuff

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Speaker 1: is coming. The stuff is coming. It's not it's not

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Speaker 1: ready yet. The stuff that they're talking about is actually

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Speaker 1: grand jury testimony. For the most part, it's grand jury

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Speaker 1: testimony and it's under sealed because one of the cases

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Speaker 1: is still active, the case against Glaane Maxwell, is that

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court right now there is a potential that

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court could order a new trial, which means

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Speaker 1: that you have to go back through the whole process.

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Speaker 1: So federal judges are not usually interested in releasing grand

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Speaker 1: jury testimony anyway, especially when it contains so much information

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Speaker 1: about underage victims of sex trafficking. That's another wrinkle that's

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Speaker 1: in this. The judges yesterday are late last night, i believe,

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Speaker 1: told the Department of Justice, both judges who are who

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Speaker 1: have this testimony under seal, that they want more information

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Speaker 1: about what it is that they want released because there

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Speaker 1: is some really humiliating information in here when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the victims, and they don't think that it's a

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Speaker 1: great idea to put this out in the public. Not

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Speaker 1: only that, but grand jury testimony is really one sided.

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Speaker 1: It's just a prosecutor putting on it's hearsay ends up

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Speaker 1: in theirs. A lot of this stuff hasn't been necessarily

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Speaker 1: confirmed or corroborated. You run the risk of smearing people

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Speaker 1: who haven't actually done anything wrong. And Alan Dershowitz should

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Speaker 1: know that better than anybody. He wants it all released

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Speaker 1: because he says, just get it all out there so

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Speaker 1: everybody can have this discussion. But this is what judges

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Speaker 1: are looking at, so there's not much release. To the

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Speaker 1: point now where you've got the Deputy Attorney General of

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Speaker 1: the United States who wants to have a meeting with

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Speaker 1: Glaine Maxwell to see if she if she's willing to

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Speaker 1: testify to what she knows. This is the sex trafficker.

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Speaker 1: She's the one who was doing most of the dirty

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Speaker 1: work for Jeffrey Epstein. She was finding the girls, she

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Speaker 1: was bringing the girls to him. And it's worth noting

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Speaker 1: that that's the only thing that she was convicted of,

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Speaker 1: was trafficking girls to Jeffrey Epstein, not to anybody else,

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Speaker 1: but just to Jeffrey Epstein. And that was enough. That's

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Speaker 1: all it took to get her twenty years in prison.

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Speaker 1: So all of this I think is a distraction. But

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Speaker 1: it's a distraction that the Trump administration created Pam Bondi especially,

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Speaker 1: and it is a huge mistake. You never promised something

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Speaker 1: that you can't deliver. She clearly can't deliver on this,

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Speaker 1: and now they're looking to sort of back, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, retro fit or retro engineer to where they

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Speaker 1: can they can do this, and Democrats are doing what

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Speaker 1: I think Republicans would do under the same circumstances, which

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Speaker 1: is taking advantage of it and making sure that everybody

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Speaker 1: knows that these guys are flailing. And they are.

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Speaker 2: But I think the problem that the Democrats have is

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Speaker 2: that you didn't care about this for four years. It's

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Speaker 2: clearly obvious that it's political to you, and if this

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Speaker 2: is all you have, Trump still wins on the economy,

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Speaker 2: Trump still wins on the border, Trump still wins on

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Speaker 2: the Middle East. Trump still wins on men are not

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Speaker 2: women and women are not men. Trump still wins. Trump

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Speaker 2: still wins. Trump still wins. So the other part of

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Speaker 2: this is that somehow the Epstein conversation has created a

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Speaker 2: rift in Maga. I think it created some people trying

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Speaker 2: to protect their fiefdoms and some people who really showed

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Speaker 2: themselves to be very Bill Crystal, we're not going to

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Speaker 2: talk about this. We'll tell you what to talk about.

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Speaker 2: That's that's not a way to do things, guys. Bill

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Speaker 2: Crystal twenty sixteen, on conservatism, I'll tell you who a

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Speaker 2: real conservative is. Is not a way to go about

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Speaker 2: winning friends and influencing people. But if the Democrats are

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Speaker 2: going to rely on this to gain some kind of victory,

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Speaker 2: who in the world are they pulling over from Magaville

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Speaker 2: or from independence, or from moderates or from low propensity voters.

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Speaker 2: I argue that number is zero.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, almost certainly. But again, they don't have too

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Speaker 1: many cards to play, and that's a solid point. And

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Speaker 1: BONDI just gave them half a deck, right, So they're

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Speaker 1: going to play those cards as long as they can

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Speaker 1: play those cards, and hopefully it erodes some confidence and

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Speaker 1: its etcetera, etcetera, maybe at least to some other scandal.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think that they're still sort of semi

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Speaker 1: hoping that there's something about Trump in these files. If

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Speaker 1: there was something about TRUMPET would have leaked out during

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Speaker 1: the Biden administration. There's nothing about Trump and the Derkshire

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Speaker 1: Witz says, I've seen all of this. There's nothing about

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Speaker 1: Trump in it. There's nothing about it. And he said

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Speaker 1: there's nothing about any current office holders that are in

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Speaker 1: this either. This is mostly like business leaders and people

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Speaker 1: around politics, but there's no current office holders in this mix.

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Speaker 1: So again, there's really not This is going to be

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Speaker 1: a huge exercise in disappointment and dissolution and failed expectations.

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Speaker 1: And this is why politics is about setting expectations in

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Speaker 1: a manner that you can meet them and be credible

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Speaker 1: in doing so. This is this is practically a Harvard

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Speaker 1: Business School case of how not to do politics.

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Speaker 2: Ed Marssey hotair dot Com. Always appreciate you, man. More

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Speaker 2: coming up. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: So the I see the intelligence community didn't have any

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Speaker 2: direct information that Putin wanted to help Donald Trump during

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Speaker 2: the twenty sixteen presidential election. No, Well, the more we

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Speaker 2: go through this, the more we see Tony Katz, Tony

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Speaker 2: Katz today, Good to be with you. Tulsea Gabbard telling

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Speaker 2: Newsmax that there are more documents that refute the statement

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Speaker 2: regarding in a Barack Obama and his team denying his

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Speaker 2: role in the coup attempt against Donald Trump. Well, I

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Speaker 2: don't know what else you would call it. You directed

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Speaker 2: the Director of National Intelligence, You directed the FBI director,

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Speaker 2: you directed the CIA director, You directed the attorney general

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Speaker 2: to get together and take a look at how you

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Speaker 2: can hurt Donald Trump. You had James Comy say, oh,

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Speaker 2: the Presidential Daily briefing that shows these eighteen different intelligence

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Speaker 2: groups saying that Russia was not in any discernible way

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Speaker 2: able to interfere in the election without us knowing. This

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Speaker 2: wasn't happening. And you then decided, we'll spike the Presidential

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Speaker 2: Daily brief We'll come back to it, and we'll say, oh, yes,

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Speaker 2: the Russians were really involved in the twenty sixteen election.

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Speaker 2: This is what happened. And this is why President Trump

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Speaker 2: saying of a Barack Obama the treason and he should

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Speaker 2: be prosecuted. Yes, ten thousand, Why is this? Why is

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Speaker 2: this in any way odd or all awkward? But going

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Speaker 2: back to this story that there was no direct information

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Speaker 2: that Putin wanted to help Trump win the twenty sixteen election.

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Speaker 2: But as Fox News reports, it at the unusual direction

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Speaker 2: of then President Barack Obama. They published potentially biased or

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Speaker 2: implausible intelligence suggesting otherwise. This according to the House Intelligence Committee.

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Speaker 2: So we now have more and more and more all

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Speaker 2: of these things that Devin Nunez did when he was

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Speaker 2: in the House, before he went on to head up

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Speaker 2: is it Trump Media group? Is that what they call it?

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Speaker 2: He runs truth Social and all of these other things.

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Speaker 2: It is obvious and clear what it is these people did.

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Speaker 2: And we are shocked, but we are not surprised. We're

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Speaker 2: only shocked, and we're able to really put it all together,

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Speaker 2: and that so many people have been able to put

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Speaker 2: these pieces together of the duplicitousness of the political left,

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Speaker 2: and how much they deny and I denied, denied, and

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Speaker 2: there are the fellow travelers in the press denied, denied, denied,

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Speaker 2: and called it all conspiracy theories and nonsense and laughed

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Speaker 2: it off and brushed it off. It's imperative that we

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Speaker 2: remember that these are bad people. They're bad actors, they're

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Speaker 2: bad Americans. They're not Americans. Oh don't no, there are

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Speaker 2: Americans in that they were born in the United States.

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Speaker 2: But you think they act like somebody who believes in

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Speaker 2: the rule of law. You think they act like somebody

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Speaker 2: who believes that, Okay, we lost an election, let's go

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Speaker 2: win the next one. No, these people don't act like that.

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Speaker 2: You think John Brennan's decent, James Clapper, Barack Obama, you

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Speaker 2: think any of these people are decent people. No, they're

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Speaker 2: low people. And it is once again a reminder. Election

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Speaker 2: day is November third, twenty twenty six, and not only

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Speaker 2: can Democrats not have power, but Republicans need to use

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Speaker 2: the power they have in the time. They have to

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Speaker 2: ensure they've got all the data and then prosecute necessary

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Speaker 2: no doubt, find everything at Tony kats dot com tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Everyone take care