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Speaker 3: Eye shotgun snapping for Jones, hands off to Taylor looking

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Speaker 3: Strike Jones to Alec Pearce. Daniel Jones strake give to

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Speaker 4: He's twenty ted touchdown. There's a record racker for Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 4: Colts at Berlin with the walk up touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Overtime, the Colts send everybody in Berlin home happy. Final

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Speaker 4: score Colts thirty one, Falcons twenty five.

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Speaker 6: Phenomenal game, some back and forth, a gritty win by

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Speaker 6: And congrats to jt Send the all time franchise record

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Speaker 2: here for it. Indiana's in the head of Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: I'm here for it. I love it. And the guy

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Speaker 2: that was on the call not just for that, but

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Speaker 2: also in a game where Shaka Smart's team gave up

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Speaker 2: a century mark of points in college basketball. And yes, Purdue,

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Speaker 2: we got to talk about Purdue as well, number one

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Speaker 2: in the country and again the fact they're number one

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Speaker 2: snow outside looks beautiful. Also little bit of a caution

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Speaker 2: that has to go with that, where there are some

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Speaker 2: warning signs there. But we're focusing on the positives and

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Speaker 2: the beauty and the aesthetic of it all for all

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Speaker 2: the teams today, and that includes Indiana both football and basketball,

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Speaker 2: and the voice of it. Don Fisher is going to

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Speaker 2: join us next Mike Chapot one o'clock today. Trey Essex,

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Speaker 2: former Colts offensive lineman, who broke down for me the

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Speaker 2: film of what the Colts offensive line is doing or

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Speaker 2: not doing and where that may dare I say it

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Speaker 2: forecast for things down the road that's coming up. One

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Speaker 2: thirty Don Fisher other side Monday edition, Quarying Company on

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Speaker 2: the fan.

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Speaker 1: It's Monday, It's twelve thirty.

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Speaker 7: It's Fish, EJ and Omar both fireside Beckery near side.

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Speaker 3: Mendoza in the backfield back to throw.

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Speaker 2: Pressure comes again, throws.

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Speaker 1: It to the ends of head of touches made.

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Speaker 2: Is it a touchdown?

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Speaker 1: Touchdown too?

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Speaker 2: Plead? Then he put his.

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Speaker 7: Foot down it's a store for the voice of the Hoosiers,

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Speaker 7: Don Fisher joining Query in company on Nutty three five

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Speaker 7: and one oh seven five the fan.

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Speaker 2: That's how it sounded in Happy Valley on Saturday, Indiana

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Speaker 2: over Penn State. The Hoosiers are now ten and zero

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Speaker 2: unblemished on the year. And Don Fisher who joins us

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Speaker 2: after that fabulous call. By the way, and Don, listen,

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Speaker 2: I'll give you a ton of credit on that because

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Speaker 2: I mean, for the obvious reason, it's an exciting and

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Speaker 2: outstanding call. But to have the presence of mind to

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Speaker 2: pause there because everyone was thinking, like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 2: is he in or not? And then you see the

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Speaker 2: replay and the official gets a ton of credit as well.

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Speaker 2: It was a home run on all accounts on that play.

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Speaker 2: But to be able to wait for just a second,

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Speaker 2: because I watch it now, Don, and I still think

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Speaker 2: to myself, did he really make that catch? That's an

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Speaker 2: unbelievable play? Do we have Don drive?

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Speaker 8: When you think about all the things that happened leading

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Speaker 8: up to that play? In that drive, that was minute

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Speaker 8: and fifty one seconds left in the ballgame, but it

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Speaker 8: started and it went ten plays and they still had

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Speaker 8: time at the clock after they scored the touchdown. It's

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Speaker 8: remarkable how efficient this football team became in what would

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Speaker 8: be considered a two minute drill at the end of.

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Speaker 1: A ball game.

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Speaker 8: And you've got to give tremendous credit to Fernando Mendoza,

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Speaker 8: who was just hammered all day long and pressured all

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Speaker 8: day long and made every throw in the end of

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Speaker 8: that performance that was just spectacular.

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Speaker 2: I also thought, don and this is the sign of

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Speaker 2: a great team or a well coached, well balanced you

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Speaker 2: know when we know. And Elijah Surratt has been a

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Speaker 2: fabulous player for Indiana and he's out due to injury,

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Speaker 2: and Charlie Becker comes in and basically matches his season

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Speaker 2: total in terms of receptions. But he made big catch

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Speaker 2: after big catch, and I thought he was obviously outstanding

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Speaker 2: as well. And I hate to say this is a

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Speaker 2: disrespect him, say were you surprised by that? But how

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Speaker 2: much do you tip your cap to Charlie Becker also

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Speaker 2: rise into the occasion.

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Speaker 8: Well, I watched him in practices the last two years now,

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Speaker 8: and even as a freshman last year, you could see

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Speaker 8: that this guy had the tools and the talent to

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Speaker 8: be really good. At some point if he continued to work,

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Speaker 8: which obviously he's done, and he's had just a couple

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Speaker 8: of opportunities this year leading up to this ballgame until

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Speaker 8: last week, of course, when he did play and replace

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Speaker 8: with Elijah when he had a slight injury to his

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Speaker 8: lower leg and they didn't want to we're being very

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Speaker 8: cautious with it. And then this week, you know, he

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Speaker 8: didn't play again, which means that they're making sure that

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Speaker 8: he is completely healthy when he does come back. But

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Speaker 8: Charitie stepped in and both those ball games made some catches,

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Speaker 8: nice catches last week and this week just spectacular one

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Speaker 8: hundred and eighteen yards on seven receptions, didn't drop a ball,

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Speaker 8: just he played just extraordinarily well. And his talent level

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Speaker 8: is I mean, he's one of the two or three

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Speaker 8: fastest guys on this Indiana football team. He's sick four,

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Speaker 8: he's long, and so he's got sized that helps him

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Speaker 8: and along with his speed, he's going to be spectacular

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Speaker 8: for this ball club in the future too.

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Speaker 2: Charlie Becker, who is a sophomore by the way out

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Speaker 2: of Nashville, Tennessee, stepping up for Indiana in that game.

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Speaker 2: Don you mentioned Mendoza in the fact that you know

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Speaker 2: that first play of the drive when he got sacked

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Speaker 2: and he didn't just get sacked, I mean he got

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Speaker 2: You know, Penn State was a great right and you think,

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Speaker 2: oh boy, here we go. In terms of Penn State

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Speaker 2: getting to Mendoza. I know that the offensive line that there.

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Speaker 2: You know there have been guys, there are guys that

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Speaker 2: are hurt. But was there anything differently that is being

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Speaker 2: done in the way that Indiana is being defended or

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Speaker 2: is this simply a matter of attrition and new faces

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Speaker 2: in front of Mendoza.

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Speaker 8: Well, it's probably a little bit of a combination. Drew

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Speaker 8: Evans has been out now for two weeks in the

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Speaker 8: offensive line. He's a very talented offensive lineman, has done

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Speaker 8: a good job. He got hurt last year at the

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Speaker 8: end of the season too. This one I don't think

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Speaker 8: is season ending. But how long he's out for the

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Speaker 8: time being, we just don't know. It may be another

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Speaker 8: couple of weeks and he may may not play again

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Speaker 8: in this regular season. I think he would be ready

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Speaker 8: to come back if he has that opportunity in postseason play,

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Speaker 8: which I think Indiana will have. But we'll see. You

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Speaker 8: don't want to get right away and I know that

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Speaker 8: sounds like coach speaking stuff like that, but I've got

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Speaker 8: around ind he had of football for a long time,

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Speaker 8: and I don't get ahead of myself, if you know

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Speaker 8: what I mean. That being said, I do think the

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Speaker 8: offensive line was taking advantage of a little bitless game,

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Speaker 8: but part of that was due to the fact that

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Speaker 8: Penn State they have really good players and this is

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Speaker 8: a good football team. They just ran into a buzzsaw,

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Speaker 8: well not a buzzsaw, but they ran into all kinds

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Speaker 8: of struggles here in the last four or five ball

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Speaker 8: games in which they lost. Their coach gets fired. This

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Speaker 8: team was playing for something on Saturday. Because Indiana goes in.

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Speaker 8: There's the number two ranked team. They hadn't played a

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Speaker 8: home game in three weeks, Penn State, I'm talking about now,

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Speaker 8: and they go in. There's the number two ranked team

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Speaker 8: in the country, unbeaten at that point. This made their

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Speaker 8: season if they beat Indiana and they didn't. Now they

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Speaker 8: still have enough tools to go in and the next

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Speaker 8: three games, win those games games, because I think they're

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Speaker 8: capable of beating anybody they play at this point the

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Speaker 8: rest of the season. But this team, this was their

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Speaker 8: Rose Bowl, this was their Bowl game. It was their

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Speaker 8: college football playoff game, whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 8: This was the game that they wanted to point to

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Speaker 8: and they wanted to win badly, and they had a

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Speaker 8: great game plan put against Indiana. They put pressure on

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Speaker 8: Fernando Mendoza the entire ballgame. He got hit many times

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Speaker 8: and still hung in there and did what he had

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Speaker 8: to do. But that offensive line, I guarantee it. That's

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Speaker 8: the one area that I know Kurt Signetti's going to

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Speaker 8: look at very closely after the film and he will

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Speaker 8: have some things to say to that offensive line after

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Speaker 8: that ballgame, because obviously it wasn't good enough. A good

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Speaker 8: portion of that ballgame.

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Speaker 2: Up next for Indiana is Wisconsin. Then it's the bucket

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Speaker 2: game and if they hold Serve then it would be

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Speaker 2: into the Big Ten championship game. Still football to be

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Speaker 2: played between now and then. Don I'm curious of this.

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Speaker 2: I saw so much discuss of this in a fun way.

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Speaker 2: You know, my friends that went to Indiana and fans

587
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Speaker 2: of Indiana, everybody was talking about on Saturday evening. You know,

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Speaker 2: I really think that like Upstairs Pub and Ni's and

589
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: Kilroy's and all of them, they probably already were blowing

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Speaker 2: up the still frame of that catch to be able

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Speaker 2: to put it on the wall in the establishments in Bloomington, right.

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Speaker 2: And in terms of plays basketball, there are a billion

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Speaker 2: of them. I mean Keith Smart shot and Jay Edwards

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Speaker 2: and the watch shot, and you know, on and on

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Speaker 2: and on. But in terms of football plays and the

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Speaker 2: time that you have done it, don what other plays

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Speaker 2: come to mind that would be as emphatic and exciting

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Speaker 2: a football play? Is that one that you saw?

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Speaker 8: Well, I you know, there have been a lot of

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Speaker 8: great plays, individual plays and things like that in ball

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Speaker 8: games through the years. The one thing I can say

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Speaker 8: about that catch and that particular play was how important

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Speaker 8: it was at the time it was. I mean, you

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Speaker 8: see really great plays from a lot of great athletes

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Speaker 8: around the country every college weekend. Everybody is looking at

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Speaker 8: that play. This guy bought it down with one hand,

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Speaker 8: you know, pulled it in with one arm, and all

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Speaker 8: that kind of thing. You see, all these kinds of

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Speaker 8: things that happened. The question is when did they happen

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Speaker 8: and were they game changer or were they the difference

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Speaker 8: at a ballgame? And that was certainly that And I

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Speaker 8: can't remember, you know, I've got a bad memory. I

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Speaker 8: can tell you that, Jake, I don't have the memory

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Speaker 8: that a lot of people have. I know you have

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Speaker 8: a better memory than I always thought having, So I

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Speaker 8: know this. But the fact of the matter is I

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Speaker 8: can't think of anything I saw that was better from

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Speaker 8: a football standpoint at Indiana than that particular play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was. And again all aspects of it,

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Speaker 2: the throw, the moxie, the leaping ability, the body balance,

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Speaker 2: the officiating, the radio call, all of it. Right, it

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Speaker 2: was a pretty awesome moment for certain. Let's get to

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Speaker 2: basketball real quick down before we let you go. Shaka

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Speaker 2: smart is a is a great basketball coach and his teams,

625
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Speaker 2: you know, are known for their defensive intensity and for

626
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Speaker 2: that reason, I thought it was super impressive what Indiana

627
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: was able to do by getting one hundred up on Marquette.

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Speaker 2: One hundred to seventy seven was the final score. Tucker

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Speaker 2: Devreeze had lightning in a bottle there for a while,

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Speaker 2: finished with twenty seven. But what I like about this team,

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Speaker 2: and I watched him against the Alabama A and M

632
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Speaker 2: as well, is they moved the ball around quickly and

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Speaker 2: they have multiple guys that can score quickly off of

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Speaker 2: a pass, but then at the same time can reset

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Speaker 2: back into a structured offense. And I like the way

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Speaker 2: that they moved the ball around. What jumped out at

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Speaker 2: you about that game against Marquette.

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Speaker 8: Well, obviously the shooting jumped out because they had twenty

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00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 8: seven assists on thirty three baskets and they shot fifty

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Speaker 8: percent from the three point line of the contest wins

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Speaker 8: the last time Indiana did that with twenty eight three

642
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Speaker 8: pointers being shot. And it's not to say that we

643
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 8: haven't had that kind of performance before, but Tucker de

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Speaker 8: Breeze had twenty four points in the first half, just

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Speaker 8: one three point field goal in the second half. And

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Speaker 8: then who steps up in the second half, Lamar Wilkerson.

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Speaker 8: He had one three pointer in the first half, he

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Speaker 8: had five more in the second half. They both were

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Speaker 8: six of nine, six of ten in the ball game.

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Speaker 8: And to have two guys that step up like that,

651
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Speaker 8: and then there are other guys in this team that

652
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Speaker 8: are capable of knocking down threes to help out. I

653
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Speaker 8: just think that's the one thing that impresses me more

654
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Speaker 8: than anything else, is the fact that Indiana has multiple

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Speaker 8: guys who can shoot the three now and the fact

656
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Speaker 8: that they spread the ball all the time. They are

657
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Speaker 8: not selfish players in any way, shape or form, and

658
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Speaker 8: they love playing together. And to say that about a

659
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Speaker 8: roster that's just been put together in the last five months,

660
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Speaker 8: and to go on a couple of exhibition games in

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Speaker 8: San Juan, Puerto Rico, and then to play a couple

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Speaker 8: of exhibitions here and now two regular season ball games,

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Speaker 8: one of which is against the very quality opponent Marquette.

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Speaker 8: This team has something special going on right now, and

665
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Speaker 8: if they can maintain that through this season, they're going

666
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Speaker 8: to be better than people ever thought they could be.

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Speaker 2: Don I know that making a comparison between Indiana and

668
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Speaker 2: then dare I say at Purdue is dangerous from a

669
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Speaker 2: fan based standpoint, I get it, but I wanted your

670
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: thought on this. I was watching Lamar Wilkerson and i'd

671
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 2: seen him a little bit. You know, obviously, this is

672
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Speaker 2: a guy that has scored a ton of points over

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Speaker 2: the course of his college career. But I had seen

674
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Speaker 2: him in the Alabama A and M M game in particular,

675
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Speaker 2: and I'll tell you who it reminded me of it.

676
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: He's a bigger version of it. But he strikes me

677
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Speaker 2: if you recall Carson Edwards that played at Perdue, And

678
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: by that I mean he has kind of a quick step,

679
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 2: lightning in a bottle tendency about him, where if he

680
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Speaker 2: hits a shot or two, it looks like you think,

681
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Speaker 2: to yourself, well, Katie, bar the door. This guy all

682
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 2: of a sudden, just can he's in a zone automatically?

683
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Speaker 2: What has been your observation of him offensively? And am

684
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Speaker 2: I off base with that comparison?

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Speaker 8: No, he is lightning in a bottle and if he

686
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Speaker 8: hits the first couple of shots, you're in for a

687
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Speaker 8: tough night because he could flat shoot the basketball. He

688
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 8: was eight of nineteen yesterday, but his hot hand took

689
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Speaker 8: place in the second half when they needed it. And

690
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Speaker 8: if you remember that game yesterday, they got in early

691
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Speaker 8: file trouble and there was a multiple guys that were

692
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Speaker 8: with two or three file not three, but two were

693
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Speaker 8: at least two files early in the ballgame, and it

694
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Speaker 8: looked like Indiana was going to have some problems offensively

695
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Speaker 8: with the rest of the day, especially if anybody got

696
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Speaker 8: more file trouble, which they did as the game went on.

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Speaker 8: But it was one guy that took place in the

698
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Speaker 8: first half. One guy in the second half. But Wilkerson,

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Speaker 8: in my opinion, and I've watched him in practices as

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Speaker 8: much as I've watched him and the other ballgames that

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Speaker 8: he's played so far and exhibitions and the San Juan

702
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 8: trip and all that kind of thing. The guy could

703
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Speaker 8: just flat shoot the basketball. And that's the reason that

704
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Speaker 8: Darren Debrees went after him, because he knew what kind

705
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Speaker 8: of a shooter he was. And that's how much value

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Speaker 8: I think Darren puts on guys that can shoot the three,

707
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Speaker 8: because this is a game that the game changing things

708
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Speaker 8: that happen in basketball these days oftentimes are with three

709
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 8: point shots, and if you've got multiple guys that can

710
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Speaker 8: put those shots in the basket, you've got something special there,

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Speaker 8: and I think this team has now.

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Speaker 2: Indiana Wednesday night taking on Milwaukee. That game is a

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Speaker 2: seven o'clock start. You can hear it of course on

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Speaker 2: these radio stations. Don a pleasure as always, football and

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Speaker 2: basketball wise. Both really good weekend for Indiana sports. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: the time as always. We'll talk to you soon, all right,

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: Jake Don Fisher, the voice of the Hoosiers, joining us

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Speaker 2: house dot com. We come back. I had asked your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on the Colts in ten words or fewer, and

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Speaker 2: I'll read you some of the highlights.

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Speaker 7: Next query in company on nneithe five and one oh

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Speaker 7: seven five.

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Speaker 1: The Van.

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Speaker 2: Mike Chapel coming up just under ten. Speaking of ten,

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Speaker 2: it is ten games in for the Colts and that

738
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Speaker 2: means give me your description of it in ten or

739
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Speaker 2: fewer words. But before before we do all of that,

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Speaker 2: Kirt Gerald's if you could please the breaking new Sounder.

741
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: Another coaching casualty in the NFL, Brian Daball is out

742
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Speaker 2: as head coach of the New York Football Giants, and

743
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Speaker 2: that is one that it looked like again at the

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Speaker 2: beginning of the year. I did think for a moment

745
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Speaker 2: it looked like the Giants might have found a little

746
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Speaker 2: bit of stability underneath them, But not the case, and

747
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Speaker 2: day Ball is now fired as the coach of the

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Speaker 2: New York Giants, a team that I think, when you

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Speaker 2: look at from the quarterbacking standpoint, you know, is that

750
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Speaker 2: a job that will intrigue some people. The challenge with

751
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Speaker 2: that is the division itself, because Philadelphia is obviously elite.

752
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Speaker 2: And then you have Washington that, even though they have

753
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Speaker 2: been this year a bit of a dumpster fire, they

754
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Speaker 2: have a good young quarterback that makes you think that,

755
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Speaker 2: you know, perhaps they're going to be somebody to contend

756
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Speaker 2: with for a couple of years. Young coaches, I think

757
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: in particular, or hungry coaches. Coaches don't want to get

758
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Speaker 2: back into it, whatever it might be, look at a

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Speaker 2: situation and go, I don't care what I'm up against you.

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Speaker 2: A job in the NFL is a job in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: There's only so many of them. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 2: worries about Dallas and the NFC East because every year

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Speaker 2: we do that, don't we? Okay, yesterday on the ex

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Speaker 2: post Twitter, tell me in ten words of fewer your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on the Colts twenty twenty five season through ten games,

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Speaker 2: Matt had perhaps the best. They are as slick as

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Speaker 2: wet leaves on the road. Heck yeah, Matt, Mama Queri's

768
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Speaker 2: PSA coming through. But then there were very common themes.

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Speaker 2: Moe says, run to score, run to win. Colts are

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Speaker 2: eight and two. Anthony says, it's been years since the

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Speaker 2: Colts have been this resilient. Jonathan Taylor best running back

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Speaker 2: in cult history, says Andrew. He might be. He's got

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Speaker 2: certainly now the franchise record for touchdowns in a year, right,

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Speaker 2: So in that regard, yeah, you know, you look at

775
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Speaker 2: what he is doing. Adam JT gets anything he wants

776
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Speaker 2: in new contract next year. Indie Chick, Jonathan Taylor is

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Speaker 2: the most valuable player in the league, and I think

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Speaker 2: that was the overwhelming sentiment amongst most good enough to

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Speaker 2: overcome mistakes, team plays for each other, says Gary. However,

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Speaker 2: there are those that also, as I talked about earlier,

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Speaker 2: When you look at that snow outside, it's beautiful and

782
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Speaker 2: you love to soak it in, but it comes with

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Speaker 2: the forecast of a warning of what could be around

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Speaker 2: the corner, and someone else says, off to amazing start,

785
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Speaker 2: but seems like things might be crumbling. Crumbling's probably a

786
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: tough word for it, but yes, I do think that

787
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Speaker 2: there are areas that you have to be concerned about.

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Speaker 2: You have to be concerned about the turnovers of late

789
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Speaker 2: and the inability to take control take care of the football,

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Speaker 2: and you've got to be a little bit concerned about

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Speaker 2: another area that seemingly was one that Chris Ballard had

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Speaker 2: completely taken care of. And Mike Chappell is one of

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Speaker 2: those that I know has concern about it. And we'll

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Speaker 2: bring on the Dina Ryders and let him explain what

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about.

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Speaker 7: Next, you're listening to Query and Company on ninety three

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Speaker 7: five and one oh seven five The fan comes.

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Speaker 5: This.

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Speaker 2: Sun is finally out by the way, and the surprising snow.

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Speaker 2: Now we'll see how long it sticks around. And if

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Speaker 2: you're just joining us on the program, I was mentioning

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Speaker 2: earlier that when you get these early snow, it's a

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Speaker 2: precipitation that is esthetic, it's pretty, it's somewhat calming, but

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Speaker 2: it also can forecast that things can be a little

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Speaker 2: bit gloomy around the bend and to an extent, while

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Speaker 2: it is fabulous that the Cults are up to an

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Speaker 2: eight and two start, they are heading into the by

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Speaker 2: they then get ready to go to Kansas City, there

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Speaker 2: were yesterday perhaps some things that forecast a potential issue.

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Speaker 2: Joining us now on the Java House Peel and poor

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Speaker 2: Guest line he is with CBS four and WXA on

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Speaker 2: Fox fifty nine, Mike Chapel and chap let's begin with that.

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Speaker 2: I don't mean to be pessimistic because it was a

814
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Speaker 2: big win. Jonathan Taylor was elite, as he has been

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Speaker 2: all year. But there were and you pointed it out,

816
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: there were a couple of areas that if it's not

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00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: cleaned up, to use that term, it can be a

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Speaker 2: bad forecast for the Colts. And I'm talking about the

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Speaker 2: offensive line. You seem to have some concern over that.

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Speaker 9: Well, twelve secs and two games, and yeah, if they

821
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Speaker 9: don't get it cleaned up, I mean, Riley Lennard is

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Speaker 9: one play away and which one of these plays is

823
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Speaker 9: close enough to get to get Danael Jones knocked out? So,

824
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Speaker 9: and that's what's alarming is for the first eight games

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Speaker 9: of like nine sacks and things are going pretty good,

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Speaker 9: and all of a sudden, the last two games, teams

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Speaker 9: have really exploded the edge and they canna brush up

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Speaker 9: the middle. But it's just hard. I was looking here, uh,

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Speaker 9: because I'm a stat and I spend more time with stats.

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Speaker 9: This franchise is three and twenty four when it has

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Speaker 9: at least seven sacks. So it was two and twenty

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Speaker 9: four before yesterday. It's just too hard. These aren't a

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Speaker 9: minus two rush by Jalvin Tater, the minus six, minus

834
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Speaker 9: seven or strip sacks. What Jones has had is it

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Speaker 9: seven turnovers in the last two games. That's not sustainable.

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Speaker 9: And this is not This cannot be cured personnel wise.

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Speaker 9: They're not going to go mixing and mansion and bringing

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Speaker 9: up you know, Jaylen Travis to play. No, it's they've

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Speaker 9: got to figure something out. We talked to Tony Sperano

840
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Speaker 9: Junior last week. I was involved with Reggie Wayne, so

841
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 9: I didn't get it. I need to go back and

842
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 9: listen to what position coach had to say. But this

843
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 9: you can't keep doing this. And again after the Pittsburgh game,

844
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Speaker 9: somebody said, well did did the Steelers find the blueprint?

845
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Speaker 9: I said, yeah, you get a blueprint if you've got

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Speaker 9: t J. Watt and Alex Heismith. Well that wasn't the

847
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Speaker 9: case yesterday, and they still got after the quarterback and

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Speaker 9: it's just too hard. And we signed with the bloody lip,

849
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Speaker 9: which is you know, players bleed, All players bleed every game,

850
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Speaker 9: but when your quarterbacks show this bloody mouth through a

851
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 9: space mask, that's not a good thing. The players have

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Speaker 9: the week off, so this will be on the joaching

853
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 9: set to figure out what's wrong. That is something wrong,

854
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 9: something's wrong. You can't say, well, you know, nothing's wrong,

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Speaker 9: So this will be a scheme thing.

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00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 9: I don't know whether and this is this Rick Venturi

858
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Speaker 9: could maybe address this, but is this a case of

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00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 9: Shainstike and getting in that Bruce arians mindset that we're

860
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 9: gonna say and Tom Moore, we're gonna send that five

861
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Speaker 9: guys and you deal with that and we'll deal with

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Speaker 9: protecting with five. And that's a result of the quarterback

863
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 9: getting getting beat on, or is it something else? I

864
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 9: understand having so many offensive options to throw too into

865
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 9: run with uh that maybe you say our scheme will

866
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 9: be your pressure and all that. I don't know. I'm

867
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 9: my mind's not that advanced. But to say that nothing's

868
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 9: wrong would be ridiculous and say, you know, I it's

869
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 9: gonna be a tweak. Well it's not anyway tweak. You

870
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,399
Speaker 9: got your quarterback killed the last two weeks, semi killed

871
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 9: the last two weeks. So that's something. Fortunately, I think

872
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 9: they've got the week to kind of self evaluate, as

873
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 9: I say so, but they've got to get it fixed

874
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 9: because you can't keep giving up five and seven sacks

875
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 9: in a game to where you know three or four

876
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 9: of them are four stumbles. That that's unsustainable.

877
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: Do you think chap that teams started? And by the way,

878
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson would be available when they go into Kansas City.

879
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: He is available off of the injured reserve. Now, whether

880
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: or not that means he's active and becomes the immediate backup,

881
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. But for those that are

882
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 2: curious Anthony Richardson's eligibility for the Kansas City game, theoretically,

883
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 2: based on his ir placement of four games, he would

884
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 2: be eligible to be on the roster when they go

885
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,919
Speaker 2: to Kansas City. But did did Pittsburgh expose a little

886
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: bit about Indianapolis and and the way that they attacked

887
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: the Colts offensive line and the way that they may

888
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: maybe stunted or got after Daniel Jones. That then is

889
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: now going to be replicated in a copycat league or

890
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: is this simply the case chap where the line lost

891
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: a little bit of confidence and went up against two

892
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: you know, talented front groups.

893
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 9: Well, I think they expoked something. I would have thought

894
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 9: that after getting smothered by Pittsburgh that that would have

895
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 9: been the shock to get things fixed. You know, hey,

896
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 9: we got this, we got to get this fixed. And

897
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 9: then it was I don't know if it was worse

898
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 9: or not. I don't know if it was worse or not.

899
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 9: Pittsburgh still might have been worse because of all the turnovers.

900
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 9: But something's they found something. And again I don't know

901
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 9: whether it's something schematically with the offensive line. I don't

902
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 9: believe for a second that this offensive line talent wise

903
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 9: has lost much. I think Bernard Rymans had some ups

904
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 9: and down right or left tackle. But and again I

905
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 9: don't I just don't know if they're refusing. Oh, there's

906
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 9: got a lot of tight end multiple tight end sets,

907
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 9: so I you know, they don't they don't sing five

908
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 9: guys out all the time at all. But and I

909
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 9: say everybody doesn't have t J. Watton, Heismith. No, but

910
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 9: they've got good players, really good players. And if you

911
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 9: if a team copycat league, absolutely, and if somebody finds

912
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 9: a weakness, and and this is a this is two games.

913
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 9: This isn't you know that was Pittsburgh. No, this is

914
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 9: two games in a row. And if you don't think

915
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 9: that Kansas City isn't sitting there and saying, Okay, what's

916
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 9: going on here and why can't they protect their quarterback?

917
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 9: Of course they are. And if you don't find what's

918
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 9: wrong schematically or whatever your your players are doing fundamental wise,

919
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 9: it's this is it doesn't you know, fix itself. So

920
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 9: that's with all the fact that that they wanted to

921
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 9: found a way to win yesterday was on Jonathan Table's brilliance,

922
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 9: without question. If he doesn't do that at that level,

923
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 9: at that level, they lose. And you can't expect a

924
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 9: running back to go for two forty and three touchdowns.

925
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 9: And I saw another note here that he said a

926
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 9: franchise record. Again, when you set franchise records on a

927
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,399
Speaker 9: franchise that's got Lenny Moore and Edwin James and Eric

928
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 9: Dickerson and Marsha Fat You're doing something most totally yards

929
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 9: in the game to eighty six. I mean, that's ridiculous. So,

930
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 9: uh that's why that You can't expect your your running

931
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 9: back to save you every week.

932
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 10: Uh.

933
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 9: So they've got to get the offensive line, they've got

934
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 9: to get the protection fixed, whatever that is. Those guys

935
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 9: get paid much better money than I do. We just

936
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 9: get paid to criticize and point out what you're doing wrong.

937
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 9: So it's on them over these next five or six days.

938
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 9: Say yes, they get some time off to recoup, but

939
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 9: they've got to figure out what's up with the with

940
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 9: the pass protection.

941
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: Mike Chapel is our guest. He's on the Java house

942
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: peeling poor guest, line chap How would you assess the

943
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 2: performance of Sauce Gardner?

944
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 9: Pretty good considering practice, what three times or whatever he had?

945
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 9: He had the obvious slip on the two point conversion.

946
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 9: You know that that goes into the category of stuff happens.

947
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 9: I thought he played well almost he's killing himself for

948
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 9: not getting to pick six.

949
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 11: He is.

950
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 9: He jumped that route and those are plays that he

951
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 9: makes in his sleep. Although maybe that's why he's got

952
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 9: three interceptions in his career is he doesn't always corral

953
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 9: the play. I thought he played well, I really did,

954
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 9: and they put him on London near the end. I

955
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 9: thought they might put him on Great London more and

956
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 9: they didn't. He was like selective. But at the end

957
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 9: of the game when they had to get a stop,

958
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 9: they did, so I I you know, the expectation is

959
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 9: going to be over the moon on on what people

960
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 9: are thinking. But I thought, I thought it was a

961
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 9: good first game. And then hopefully, hopefully they get Moody

962
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 9: Ward back for k C and then you you've I

963
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 9: thought the defense played pretty well. Give up that touchdown

964
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 9: at the end that was was concerning, but that they

965
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 9: made to stop in overtime. So here Franklin made two

966
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 9: great plays, two great plays, including the sack uh to

967
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 9: give the Colts a chance to close it out. But

968
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 9: to have two corners where you can take away the

969
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 9: outside and then you can focus Jalen Jones or Kenny

970
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 9: Moore on the inside of the tight end or whatever.

971
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 9: That's really that that bodes well. Now, I'll tell you

972
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 9: losing to force Buckner it's huge, It's absolutely huge, and

973
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 9: there's no there's no guarantee he comes back this season.

974
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 9: There's not. With a neck injury. We've seen, you know,

975
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 9: we've seen I always default to bad things on neck

976
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 9: injuries or back injuries. So for the next three games

977
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 9: there without him, and there's no there's not even remotely

978
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:06,879
Speaker 9: guarantee that he comes back this year. And it's hard

979
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 9: for me to say who's more important to Forrest Buckner

980
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 9: or Sauce Gardner, which is crazy to say.

981
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 2: Well, I think it might be though, right, That's that's that's.

982
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 9: Where I'm going.

983
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 11: I just it's so hard for them to play without

984
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 11: him because the drop off from him correct to the

985
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 11: next guys is so great to where now I'm not

986
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 11: saying the drop off from Sauce Garter to Blackman or

987
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 11: whomever at corner is not huge.

988
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 9: It is. But we've seen how they really struggle to

989
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 9: play defense without Buckner and uh, but they're gonna be

990
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 9: without him, and if I'm the Colts, I'm saying, you know,

991
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 9: he won't be back. We got to go on without

992
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 9: him and if he comes back, good for us. So

993
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 9: that that's that's something we got to watch going forward

994
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 9: because he's not going to be here for the next

995
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 9: three games.

996
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 2: Chap do you think it is lou Anarumo with Sauce

997
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 2: Gardener And it's it's very early to know this, but

998
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 2: from what you can tell, in particular in the second

999
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 2: half of that game with no deforce Buckner there. But

1000
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: when you have Sauce Gardner lined up, is that allowing

1001
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 2: them to line up differently and play defensively with a

1002
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 2: little bit different setter formation.

1003
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 9: I think it's allowing to press a little bit more.

1004
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 9: It's probably allowing them to blitch a little bit more.

1005
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 9: They blitched Nit Cross some Zire Franklin on some blitz

1006
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 9: and so yeah, whenever, whenever you got better players, it

1007
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 9: gives you a chance to do things. And like I say,

1008
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 9: that's that they can get mooney Ward back. It just

1009
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 9: gives you that much more. And all I can think of,

1010
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 9: which is it's not about lou But it's like Gus

1011
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 9: Bradley saying, hey, where were these guys the last several

1012
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 9: years when when we were deficient at positions? So they're

1013
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 9: they're getting they're getting healthy, except for buck and I

1014
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 9: say we I think Mooney Ward was out there with

1015
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 9: trainers on whatever was Thursday last week, which is a

1016
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:02,959
Speaker 9: good sign. And you know hopefully he's out there next

1017
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 9: Wednesday when they come to practice. If not, then then

1018
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 9: then their serious concern on him returning. So uh, I

1019
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 9: would always prefer to have an edge pass rusher. I

1020
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 9: still would like better play from the defensive front, although

1021
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 9: without Buckter it's gonna be tough. But to have to

1022
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 9: have the quality they've gotten in the back end is

1023
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 9: really uh encouraging. And with the teams they've got coming

1024
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 9: up with Kansas City, they've got a bunch of receivers

1025
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 9: and Houston. Maybe Nico Collins won't go off on him.

1026
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 9: So the defense should should be getting better if they

1027
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 9: can find a way to compensate for not having their

1028
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 9: best defensive player.

1029
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: Mike Chapel is our guest Java House, Peel and Pork

1030
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: guest line CBS four, w x A and Fox fifty nine,

1031
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: who he represents. Chap with Shane steiken and I've seen

1032
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 2: a lot of not criticism per se, but eyebrow rays

1033
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: of Shane steikeing and the way that he's calling games

1034
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 2: now and in particular inside of the red zone. And

1035
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: they've had some issues in the red zone. Where do

1036
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 2: you assess the way that they're calling offensive plays for

1037
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: the Colts.

1038
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 9: Confidence confidence. Does that go to arrogance? I don't know.

1039
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 9: But he's extremely confident one in his ability to call

1040
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 9: play as he is and he's extremely confident in his players,

1041
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 9: and a lot of times that's a really good formula,

1042
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 9: and sometimes it gets you in trouble. I thought they

1043
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 9: should have kicked the field goal in one of those

1044
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 9: you know situations on fourt dan When you don't kick

1045
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 9: field goals, you're chasing points and that can be a problem. No,

1046
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 9: it's just that's that's who he is. And it's great

1047
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 9: when it works, and when it doesn't work, you know,

1048
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 9: why did you do that type of thing? But they

1049
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 9: had they had a big strong run of red zones.

1050
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 9: It was like ten or twelve in a row touchdowns. Again,

1051
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 9: people need to understand that red zone efficiency is not

1052
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 9: scoring its touchdowns.

1053
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 5: Uh.

1054
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 9: And when you don't you're you're leaving four points on

1055
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 9: the field, and if you go for it and don't

1056
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 9: make it, you're leaving some seven points. And then when

1057
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 9: you have your kick or miss a field goal. I

1058
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 9: realized it was a fifty three yarder. But I tell you,

1059
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 9: I'm watching these games, you know whenever I can, and

1060
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 9: I see guys miss fifty yard field goals occasionally, seldom

1061
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 9: are they short. Normally they're you know, Mike Vanderjack like

1062
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 9: where they go into the right to the right side

1063
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 9: of the stadium and then you can't miss extra points. Gosh,

1064
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 9: you just you just can't miss extra points. So is

1065
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 9: that a concern, Well, you're thinking so, and then he

1066
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 9: knocks down a forty forty yard or when you absolutely

1067
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 9: have to have it, so uh so, yeah, we'll see.

1068
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 9: I just think it's it's it's a supreme confidence in

1069
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 9: himself and Jim Bob and the offensive staff, and supreme

1070
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 9: confidence in his players. And why not. I mean Tyler Warren.

1071
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 9: I've been waiting for him to go off. You know,

1072
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 9: he said some really nice five catches sixty yards, seventy

1073
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 9: yards he goes for ninety nine and the deep, the

1074
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 9: deep corner route with on that last drive was a

1075
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 9: great catch. I'll tell you the fourth and two on

1076
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 9: that drive where he's he's kind of hit short of

1077
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 9: the sticks and carries the dB your brakes faces of

1078
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 9: the dB was huge. So I understand the confidence slash

1079
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 9: arrogance that they have, and most of the time I

1080
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 9: think it works, and when it doesn't people scratch their heads.

1081
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 9: But again, if he don't do things one hundred percent right,

1082
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 9: people are going to bitch and mote and this league

1083
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 9: is never going to be about one. You know, I

1084
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 9: don't know, I don't know what you want to be

1085
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 9: Batting average guys. Keep in mind baseball, you hit two

1086
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 9: eighty and you have hell of a year. You might

1087
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 9: make the Hall of Fame. NFL you go twenty eight

1088
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 9: percent and your Brian Daball and you're you're unemployed.

1089
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Speaker 2: Chap did you feel like and Tyler Warren? I agree?

1090
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Speaker 2: First off, the catch that he had late, it was

1091
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 2: kind of an over the shoulder catch and it was

1092
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: a beautifully thrown ball from Daniel Jones. Jones put it

1093
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Speaker 2: right where it needed to be. But I want to

1094
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 2: get back to Daniel Jones. What is your level of

1095
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: concern or should we be concerned. It's one thing to say, yes,

1096
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: he is not being protected the way he was through

1097
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 2: the first you know, probably seven games, certainly, but football

1098
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 2: protection has what That's what's been the bugaboo of Daniel

1099
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 2: Jones over the course of his career, or lack thereof,

1100
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 2: and that seemingly was put to rest, and now all

1101
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 2: of a sudden that's starting to pop up a little bit.

1102
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: And one of the things that I always go back

1103
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 2: to Chap I always say, when you look at teams

1104
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 2: that don't win the Super Bowl and you look at

1105
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 2: where their season ended and win, it is oftentimes a

1106
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: microcosm of the little things that they managed to avoid

1107
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 2: over the course of the year but started to present

1108
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 2: themselves as a potential negative forecast. And I'm worried about

1109
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones in terms of that football protection and whether

1110
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 2: or not we are actually now seeing the real doctor

1111
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 2: Jekyl and we were fooled by mister Hyde. Tell me I'm.

1112
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 9: Wrong, Well I can't, I can't. You know again, seven

1113
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 9: turnovers in two games is you can't do that. And

1114
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 9: you see guys get sacked all the time, but they're

1115
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 9: not losing the ball. So that's where it's got to

1116
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:47,479
Speaker 9: be a little bit more. He's gonna be a little

1117
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 9: bit more aware of pressure around him in ball security.

1118
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 9: You know, he only what he threw the ball? Was

1119
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 9: it twenty one times yesterday? Of course the sacks sort

1120
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Speaker 9: of limit that. But you just can't be giving up sacks.

1121
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 9: You can't do it. You know, your pressure is gonna

1122
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 9: your line is gonna give up pressure and sacks, but

1123
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 9: you can't compound it with fumbles. Can't do it that. Yes,

1124
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 9: that's a concern, and that's going to be when people

1125
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 9: I still see where people saying that Battler gave up

1126
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 9: too much for Sauce Gardner, two first round picks and

1127
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 9: all of this. And I'm in the camp that believes

1128
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 9: what that. We may have talked about last week, but

1129
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 9: what that tells me is that they believe Daniel Jones

1130
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 9: is their quarterback of the future. Because if you've given

1131
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 9: away any realistic chance of finding one in the draft,

1132
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 9: although the draft that you sent away should be very

1133
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 9: low draft picks, but I don't know how you move

1134
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 9: forward at quarterback if it's not Daniel Jones with all

1135
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 9: that you've done, and if he regresses to wear it

1136
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 9: does resemble the Giants to where he's starting to turn

1137
01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 9: the ball over a couple of times a game and

1138
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 9: all I remember the first eight games, they had no

1139
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 9: turnovers in six six games. And with this offense, they're

1140
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 9: gonna win when they do. It's kind of like the

1141
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 9: Peyton Manning years, not quite at that level when Peyton

1142
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 9: and those guys didn't turn the ball over, they were

1143
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 9: almost impossible to beat because they're gonna put up thirty

1144
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 9: points because they were that good. And these guys aren't

1145
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 9: quite that good. But if they don't turn the ball over,

1146
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 9: they're they're gonna score thirty thirty five points just because

1147
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 9: they're that good. So yeah, I again, I was thinking

1148
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 9: Pert was a one off with the six turnovers and

1149
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 9: five sacks, But this is two weeks in a row,

1150
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 9: and the only way you can say that's not true is, well,

1151
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 9: then how do you come back next game and the

1152
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 9: next game? And the schedules we've noticed is it gets tougher. Houston,

1153
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 9: I still don't know how they won the game. Well

1154
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 9: they you know, they played Jacksonville and Jacksonville Jacksonville it.

1155
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 9: But Houston's got maybe the best defense in the league.

1156
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 9: You got them twice. You've got Seattle, who might be

1157
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 9: the best team in the league right now, and Frisco.

1158
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 9: I'm not sold on Frisco being that level. But the

1159
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 9: schedule's tougher. It just is. And you can't expect to

1160
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 9: have seven sacks and two turnovers and a couple of

1161
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 9: miskicks and think you're gonna win an overtime. It just

1162
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 9: doesn't happen often. So, like I said, the original thing

1163
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 9: is they've got their work cut out for them coaching

1164
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 9: wise over the next few days and then in the

1165
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 9: next week, because you can't keep doing this and expect

1166
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 9: to do what they've shown they can do when they

1167
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 9: don't turn them all over and get their quarterback beat up.

1168
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 2: Chap one other thing before we let you go, Mike Chapel,

1169
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 2: our guest Java House peeling for a guest line. I

1170
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 2: don't know that we've had a chance to talk to

1171
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 2: you since the trade with Sauce Gardner. I'm curious your

1172
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,400
Speaker 2: thought on this as somebody who's been around this a

1173
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 2: long time in New Jim Mersey, Well, do you believe

1174
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 2: that Chris Ballard making that move or Chris Ballard in

1175
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 2: some of the things that we've seen with a new

1176
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 2: owner and a new the buckstops here individual and Carli

1177
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 2: Ersa Gordon. Do you think this is an example of

1178
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 2: the general manager getting the green light from the owner

1179
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 2: of let's go, let's push in if you believe this

1180
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 2: is what we need to do, or I want you

1181
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 2: to do this because I think we can win now,

1182
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 2: or is it more so the case of a general

1183
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 2: manager now having complete autonomy and flexibility to do as

1184
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 2: he chooses without the owner intervening.

1185
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 9: Well, Option one Carl ersa and I know the description

1186
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 9: comes up. Then she's a hands on owner, she is.

1187
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 9: I saw a note from Albert Brewer or somebody where

1188
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 9: they had just this discussion and it was like, you know,

1189
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 9: do you want it was Carly to Chris Baller where

1190
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 9: she said do you want to fix this with a

1191
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,440
Speaker 9: band aid or you want to fix it long term,

1192
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 9: which was her way of saying, if you're going to

1193
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 9: fix it long term, make the trade. She could have

1194
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 9: She certainly could have nixed this trade. She's the owner

1195
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 9: of her crying out loud. So this is a reflection

1196
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 9: that they're that they're working together and probably on the

1197
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 9: same page.

1198
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 11: Uh.

1199
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Speaker 9: And it sounded like, you know, Chris Ballard really wanted

1200
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 9: to do this, and then she sort of said, then't

1201
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 9: do it. Do it, damn it, this is what we

1202
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 9: need to do. And somebody asked me if they thought

1203
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 9: Jim Mercy would have greenlighted this, and the Jim irsay,

1204
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 9: had the last year and a half, I don't know,

1205
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 9: I don't know, But did Jim irsay that was in

1206
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 9: full command physically and all of that. I think he

1207
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 9: would have because he wanted to win as bad as anybody.

1208
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 9: In almost of a fault, he did things to do that.

1209
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 9: But I think this showed how Chris Ballard and Carl

1210
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 9: Ersay are in lockstep. And there isn't a chance in

1211
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 9: hell that Chris Ballard strong armed her into this trade. None.

1212
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

1213
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 9: You know, we know her her involvement here, we know

1214
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 9: how she has learned on the job, and she's learned

1215
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 9: from her dad, and she's she if she wanted to

1216
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 9: step up and say no, there would be no Sauce Gardener.

1217
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 9: There wouldn't be. But I think this just shows how

1218
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 9: her and Chris are are are are on the same

1219
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:28,840
Speaker 9: level and in agreement, and I would think that would

1220
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 9: make the fan base comfortable knowing whether you whether you

1221
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 9: like Chris Ballard and how things have gone and all

1222
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 9: of that. That's that's another argument. But what they're doing

1223
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 9: now is trying to win now. Yes, now, but they didn't.

1224
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 9: They didn't mortgage the future. You know, it's it's this

1225
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 9: isn't now her bust because a lot a lot of

1226
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 9: these players are young. Gardner's twenty five. Now you've got

1227
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 9: to come back from not having first round draft pics,

1228
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 9: but they would have been tax twenty five, twenty six,

1229
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 9: twenty six, seventh anyway, So I think they're both going

1230
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 9: together nicely moving forward.

1231
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 2: Mike Chapel, You all right there, chap Yeah, I want

1232
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 2: to make sure we're good. Yeah, yeah, I know how

1233
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 2: that is, right, all right, Mike, Appreciate it as always,

1234
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 2: and look forward to talking to you. Actually next week

1235
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 2: I'm off, but you know, with the Colts on a buye,

1236
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 2: but I know that obviously we'll be talking to you.

1237
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 2: But certainly appreciate the time as always, all right, enjoying

1238
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 2: be well, guys, all right, appreciate it. Mike Chappel joining

1239
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,120
Speaker 2: us on the Java House peeling poor guest line. He

1240
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 2: talked about the offensive line and what might be different

1241
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 2: about this line. I think right now, if you had

1242
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 2: to pick one thing that you want to get and

1243
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 2: make sure in the bye week is taken care of,

1244
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,839
Speaker 2: it's the O line for the Colts, the way they're playing.

1245
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 2: And I reached out to somebody yesterday and said, look,

1246
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 2: you played in it. You've played in the Super Bowl,

1247
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 2: you won super Bowls, you played for the Colts, you

1248
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 2: were on the line and you break down film to

1249
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 2: this day. Can you join me on the show? And

1250
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 2: Trey Askis said absolutely so he'll do it next.

1251
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 7: Query in Company on NY three, five and one oh

1252
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 7: seven to five the Fan.

1253
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 2: You just heard Matt Taylor there, Joe writes as well,

1254
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:13,360
Speaker 2: Colt yesterday winners in Berlin knocking off the Atlanta Falcons,

1255
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 2: and there are some areas of concern that I want

1256
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 2: to get to Trey Essek's going to join us here,

1257
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,679
Speaker 2: but first if you could please Kurt the breaking new sounder.

1258
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 2: There's a new number one in college basketball and the

1259
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 2: Ape Pole. It is the Houston Cougars. And Purdue, despite

1260
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 2: having more votes for number one, is now second ranked

1261
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 2: in the country after their win that maybe some thought

1262
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 2: was closer than it should have been over Oakland over

1263
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 2: the weekend. Speaking of dropping from number one to number two,

1264
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 2: Indiana now is the second losing his program in college

1265
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 2: football history. That's because, by way of their win against

1266
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 2: Penn State and Northwestern losing over the weekend, Northwestern now

1267
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 2: has lost more games in college Football Division one than

1268
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 2: anyone in history. Indiana and Northwestern have jostled that dubious

1269
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 2: title back and forth and joining us now a guy

1270
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 2: that I'm sure thrilled to be back at number one.

1271
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,760
Speaker 2: Tree Essex, the former Northwestern Wildcat, joins us on the

1272
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,080
Speaker 2: Java house feel and poor guest line. And I would

1273
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 2: assume Trey now assuring that this is your only visit

1274
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 2: to the program after I pointed that out, correct, that's

1275
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 2: a way.

1276
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 5: To introduce me.

1277
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, super Bowl champion and Northwestern and Fort Wayne

1278
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 2: product Tree Assis. Is that better?

1279
01:11:31,160 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 5: Much much better? I appreciate.

1280
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, I want to get to this first and foremost,

1281
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 2: and I appreciate your time. You know, I messaged you

1282
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 2: because I'm fascinated by the offensive line of the Colts

1283
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 2: and the fact that right at the time when I

1284
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 2: started talking about how they were playing as well as

1285
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 2: I think any offensive line unit in the NFL. You know,

1286
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 2: you're alma mater Pittsburgh. I think I'm not going to

1287
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: say exposed them, but they obviously got after Daniel Jones

1288
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 2: and it seems like there might be some regression there.

1289
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 2: You've had a chance to look at it. What have

1290
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 2: you noticed about that Colts O line.

1291
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's necessarily the Coats O line

1292
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 5: that's struggling at Granted, like you said, I think the

1293
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 5: Coats still have one of the better offensive lines in

1294
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 5: the NFL, but the last couple of weeks they've given

1295
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 5: up some sacks, some pressures that they weren't giving up

1296
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 5: prior to and so they're still running the ball great.

1297
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 5: Outside of the game again, they had against Pittsburgh, but

1298
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 5: I mean, he had a record breaking day yesterday, so

1299
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 5: the O line was obviously doing something right. But as

1300
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 5: far as past protection, they struggled. And I think it

1301
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 5: might just be a case of teams catching up to

1302
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 5: what Daniel Jones looks like in that shamee stiking offense,

1303
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 5: and so he has to hold the ball a beat

1304
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 5: or two longer, and that's allowing the pressure to get

1305
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 5: to him.

1306
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 2: You know, so much of sports tray can be mental,

1307
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,799
Speaker 2: and I don't know, you know, if you're a receiver,

1308
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 2: I don't know that that it gets mental, And if

1309
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,719
Speaker 2: you are a linebacker, I don't know if it gets mental.

1310
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:59,480
Speaker 2: But the offensive line seemingly because you are involved directly

1311
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 2: on every single play, I am curious if you get

1312
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 2: beat a play or two or a game all game long,

1313
01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: does it carry over? Is there a hangover and is

1314
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 2: there a danger in starting to overthink your movement?

1315
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:19,679
Speaker 5: There is some mental components there. The online is unique

1316
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 5: in it is the only position group where five guys

1317
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 5: have to work in unison together every single play, and

1318
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 5: with that comes a lot of pressure because if you

1319
01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 5: mess up one, you're letting down. You got to tell

1320
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 5: your left you're letting down your guys to the right,

1321
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 5: And a lot of times the play doesn't even get started,

1322
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 5: and so that does carry over. And it also doesn't

1323
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 5: help that when we do give up a sack or two,

1324
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 5: it might be one or two plays. It might have

1325
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,559
Speaker 5: played great the entire game, one or two plays, and

1326
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 5: the common fan will say that guy is horrible. That's

1327
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 5: a horrible office line. He gave up best stack and

1328
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 5: that messes up your whole day. And that gets to

1329
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 5: you as the offensive line, and the pressure and the

1330
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 5: expectations are higher at that position. I think that any

1331
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 5: other because we don't get any of the praise necessarily,

1332
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 5: but we definitely get most of the criticism.

1333
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 2: Trey Essex is my guest Java House peel and poor

1334
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 2: guest line. He was with the Steelers won two Super

1335
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 2: Bowl Z five to eleven. Then with the Colts in

1336
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 2: twenty twelve and the pride of fort Wayne Harding Trey.

1337
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,759
Speaker 2: When you look at the line, you know, Quintin Nelson

1338
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 2: obviously is an elite player, and I think that they've

1339
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 2: had you know, Bordelini's played really good or played really well,

1340
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 2: I should say at the center position. But when you

1341
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 2: look at the Colts offensive line, if you're able to

1342
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 2: assess it, I'm not going to say which one is

1343
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 2: the weak length per se, but where are they the

1344
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 2: most vulnerable or what's the area that seems to at

1345
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 2: times have a leak more than any other.

1346
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 5: It seems that the right tackle spot. I was a

1347
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 5: big fan of the second rounder out of when he

1348
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 5: come from Alburn. I think correct big tent oftive. He's

1349
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 5: been there for a long time. He's kind of inquired,

1350
01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 5: is going about his business and has been very solid

1351
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 5: his entire career. I think he is struggling with some

1352
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 5: in the past protection this year. I think the coach

1353
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 5: found a gym and what's the right guard's name is,

1354
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 5: John Clays Gonzalez.

1355
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 2: Gonzalez is how it's pronounced, Yes.

1356
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I think they found something in him. He's

1357
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 5: a big guy, a six weeks. So University of Pittsburgh guy,

1358
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 5: and I think they found something in him. But if

1359
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 5: there was some question and some weeks, it's the pass

1360
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 5: protection of breakest ship. I think he's getting a little

1361
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 5: exposed over here.

1362
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 2: And with that past protection. Daniel Jones, you know, Jones

1363
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:39,679
Speaker 2: is fascinating because Trey we knew the narrative about Daniel

1364
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 2: Jones coming from New York who, by the way, fired

1365
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 2: their head coach today and Brian, Brian Dabele. But the Giants,

1366
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 2: if you were to talk to Giants fans with Daniel Jones,

1367
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 2: they would say, all right, Indy, good luck with the

1368
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 2: turnover machine. And yet he has not. That has not

1369
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 2: been an issue until Pittsburgh and then yesterday in terms

1370
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 2: of the danger of him and the turnovers. How much

1371
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,560
Speaker 2: of that, when you look at it is defense is

1372
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 2: giving him different looks or aggression, and how much of

1373
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 2: that is just like a confidence or repetition of movement.

1374
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 5: With Daniel Jones, it's definitely defense has given him different looks.

1375
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 5: This shame stiking offense early on, especially with the way

1376
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 5: Johnson Taylor has been playing and all the attention that

1377
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 5: he commands, it's been I'm not gonna say easy, But

1378
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones hasn't had to do a lot. He hasn't

1379
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 5: had to really go through his progression because Shane Styking

1380
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 5: is really good at scheming guys open. When guys are

1381
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 5: catching passes, there's usually they're usually wide open. When Tyler

1382
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 5: Warrens running dot the field, he'susually white open. Alex Pearce,

1383
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:46,320
Speaker 5: that deep threat machine, he's getting guys open. And what

1384
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,799
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh did a great job of is stopping Johnson Taylor

1385
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 5: and then making that coach offense one dimensional and making

1386
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 5: Daniel Jones hold onto the ball and go through his progression.

1387
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:58,600
Speaker 5: And you saw when he has to do that, he struggles.

1388
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 5: He struggles him. And so there is a concern with

1389
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 5: the coach moving forward because you saw in the game

1390
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 5: versus Atlanta, and that game went back and forth, they

1391
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 5: took the ball out of Daniel Jones's hands, and that

1392
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 5: was the recipe for their success. They gave the ball

1393
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 5: to Jonathan Taylor to be teen of two hundred million

1394
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,519
Speaker 5: yards and so they were able to do that and

1395
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 5: effectively take the ball and eliminate the mistakes that Daniel

1396
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 5: Jones was making because he was turning the ball over

1397
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 5: he was not seeing the field right, and I think

1398
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 5: that's a big concern of them moving.

1399
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 2: Before Trey, I wanted to touch on something real quick

1400
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 2: before we let you go that you and I've discussed before.

1401
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 2: Trey essex is my guest job, a house apeeling for guests.

1402
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 2: Line you and I've done you a fair amount of

1403
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 2: radio and pregames and things like that in seasons past.

1404
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 2: And one of the things that I asked you, and

1405
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 2: at the time I was almost embarrassed to ask it

1406
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 2: because it seems so elementary, but the answer to me

1407
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,879
Speaker 2: was fascinating, and that is we hear about run protection

1408
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 2: and we hear about pass protection, and as an offensive lineman,

1409
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 2: your job is to do both. Now, on run protection,

1410
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 2: you never go upright, I mean, you're just moving forward

1411
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 2: immediately upon snap. Pass protection is different. Why is the

1412
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 2: Why is there a difference in the way that you

1413
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,599
Speaker 2: have to maneuver your body from one to the other,

1414
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 2: and which is more challenging.

1415
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 5: Uh, As the offensive lineman, and I think most would

1416
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 5: agree with me, we like run blocking just simply because

1417
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 5: we're going forward and with pass protection, you're going back.

1418
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,799
Speaker 5: And when you usually when you're making contact with somebody

1419
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 5: in past protection, that guy has a head of steam

1420
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 5: or he definitely has the momentum to anything else. And

1421
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 5: so just the simple body mechanics of going backwards while

1422
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 5: somebody is going forward and trying to get to a

1423
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,720
Speaker 5: certain point where the quarterback is. It's challenging and it's tough,

1424
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 5: and you see that. The teams that are good in

1425
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 5: the league are the ones that can effectively do that.

1426
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,599
Speaker 5: And it's usually the quarterback getting the ball out past

1427
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,120
Speaker 5: you know, because you can only pass protect so long

1428
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 5: before the defensive line or linebacker gets to p So.

1429
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 2: Why not Here's here's my dumb question. Okay, if you're

1430
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 2: in past protection, why not block it like black? Like

1431
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 2: run protection? Why not just continue to move forward? Either

1432
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 2: what you're still you're still staving people back right, They

1433
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 2: don't know whether you're gonna run or pass. So why

1434
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 2: the variation in the way that you handle it.

1435
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 5: Well, there are many plays where you are coming off

1436
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 5: as if you're run blocking, and that is to confuse

1437
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 5: the defense. But there is a lot of room for

1438
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 5: error if you do miss. If it's a pass play

1439
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 5: and you miss doing run blocking technique, that angle is

1440
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 5: pretty significant, pretty direct to the quarterback. And so if

1441
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 5: you miss, if you do do a run blocking technique

1442
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 5: while you're pass protecting, you better not miss. You better

1443
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 5: get your hands on them, and you better lock it

1444
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 5: in because as soon as they see that quarterback drop

1445
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 5: back and they see that it's not a run play,

1446
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 5: you don't.

1447
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,839
Speaker 2: Have a lot of time to just okay. And finally,

1448
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 2: before we let you go, uh, I've got to ask

1449
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 2: you about Pittsburgh because you obviously I know you still

1450
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 2: do a lot in terms of analyzing the Steelers. What's

1451
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 2: going on with Aaron Rodgers.

1452
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 5: He had a bad gang. He's been playing great. Don't

1453
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 5: get me wrong. This offense, the way the Pittsburgh has

1454
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 5: been running it is very simple, and Aaron has got

1455
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 5: the ball off fast. He has a young O line,

1456
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 5: unproven O line blocking for him. And when you're forty

1457
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 5: one years old and you can't get hit as much

1458
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 5: as you can, you got to get that ball off fast.

1459
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 5: But this past Sunday or yesterday, he just didn't have

1460
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 5: a good game. But those that he normally he didn't make.

1461
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 5: And so I think it's a one off. I hope

1462
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 5: it's a one off, but uh, yeah, he definitely just

1463
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:25,839
Speaker 5: didn't have a good game, but that was an anomaly

1464
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 5: because he's been playing great for us this year.

1465
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 2: Obviously, the hope for Pittsburgh fans would be that it's

1466
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: a one off, right, But when you start getting up

1467
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 2: in age, you start to wonder, right, I mean, well,

1468
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 2: but we shall see what happens. Trey. I appreciate it.

1469
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 2: I know you got stuff to get to. I appreciate

1470
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 2: the time today and look forward to talking to you again.

1471
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 5: All right, I appreciate it.

1472
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 2: Trey Essex joining us on the Java house peel in

1473
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,759
Speaker 2: poor guest line. All right when we come back. Something

1474
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 2: that happened over the weekend in college football that got

1475
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:57,440
Speaker 2: me thinking, made me ponder. I'll explain next.

1476
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 7: Query In company on ninety three five and one oh

1477
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 7: seven five, the bad time came. The old keemon decks

1478
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 7: in hellas it's too rough to feed you.

1479
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: At seven pm, a main hatchwig.

1480
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:20,799
Speaker 7: Gave in his head, fellow, it's been good and oh.

1481
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gordon Lightfoot on the camp and wired in the

1482
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 2: water coming in saying about it. Shipping crew was in

1483
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 2: and the fact that it was fifty years ago today

1484
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 2: the Edmund Fitzgerald indeed would sink in Lake Superior with

1485
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 2: water coming over and fifteen miles from Whitefish Bay with

1486
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 2: iron ore that was to be delivered to Cleveland, going

1487
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 2: down through Lake Superior. Twenty nine men would die on

1488
01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 2: the Edmund Fitzgerald my Collague football pontification here in just

1489
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes. But I did want to make

1490
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 2: mention of the fact when I was a kid, like

1491
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 2: most that are of my age group, and for that matter,

1492
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,760
Speaker 2: many that probably still know of that song. You might

1493
01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 2: not even know the backstory of it with Gordon Lightfoot

1494
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 2: and the reck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. But the Edmund

1495
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 2: Fitzgerald was an iron ore obviously cargo ship that was

1496
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 2: initially developed in nineteen fifty seven when Northwestern Mutual Life

1497
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 2: Insurance Company out of Milwaukee commissioned to the Great Lakes

1498
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 2: Engineering Works Corporation to come up with a ship. They did,

1499
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 2: and in nineteen fifty eight she set sail for the

1500
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 2: first time, named the Edmund Fitzgerald. That is because at

1501
01:22:49,920 --> 01:22:54,759
Speaker 2: the time Edmund Fitzgerald was the chair of the board

1502
01:22:54,960 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 2: of the Northwestern Mutual Life Company. And on this day

1503
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 2: fifty years ago, actually I believe it was in the

1504
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 2: late night last night when it was set to sail

1505
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 2: but it was on November the tenth of nineteen seventy

1506
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:15,440
Speaker 2: five when the Edmund Fitzgerald took on water along Lake Superior.

1507
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 2: And it has never known exactly what caused the ship

1508
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 2: to go down, but there was and still is to

1509
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 2: this day. You can listen to and it's both fascinating

1510
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 2: and eerie to hear the radio transmission back to the Anderson,

1511
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 2: which was the ship that was running just behind the Fitzgerald.

1512
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 2: And the last radio transmission was at about seven PM

1513
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 2: when famously, or infamously if you want to go that way,

1514
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 2: the captain the Anderson had said that, yeah, the last

1515
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 2: that I heard from the Fitzgerald. She said she was

1516
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 2: holding her own with the water that was coming over.

1517
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 2: But the lights had gone out and they lost the

1518
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 2: satellite transmission or if you will, the radar of where

1519
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 2: the Fitzgerald was, and they knew it was in trouble.

1520
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 2: By the time they got ahold of the Anderson, it

1521
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:13,880
Speaker 2: had passed the area that they believed they lost to

1522
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:18,479
Speaker 2: the Edmond Fitzgerald and asked the Anderson if it could

1523
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 2: turn around and go back, and he said, look, I

1524
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 2: can do that, but the water is tremendously large. The

1525
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 2: sea is too large, and they did eventually turn back.

1526
01:24:28,600 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 2: It took a while to get back, and when they

1527
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 2: did they found the remnants of life preservers and wooden

1528
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 2: planks that were floating, but they did not see any

1529
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 2: sign of the Edmond Fitzgerald. They eventually would find the

1530
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 2: Edmund Fitzgerald. They never recovered the bodies of the twenty

1531
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 2: nine men. But if you go to the IndyCar race

1532
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 2: in Detroit, which obviously I have done each and every year,

1533
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: along Jefferson Avenue in Detroit, just before you get to

1534
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 2: Belle Isle, Belle Isle is the island to where IndyCar

1535
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: used to run. Now they run obviously the street course

1536
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 2: through the streets of Detroit, but when they do so,

1537
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:09,720
Speaker 2: they pass by a right on. If you've been to

1538
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 2: Belle Isle, there is a church right there. It's right

1539
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,640
Speaker 2: next to the tunnel that goes underneath into Canada. If

1540
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 2: you're going to get your ketchup flavored potato chips, not

1541
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 2: that I wouldn't have done that, but right there is

1542
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 2: that church is the Maritimes Sailors Cathedral, and the Maritimes

1543
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:32,799
Speaker 2: Sailors Cathedral is where they held the service to honor

1544
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 2: the twenty nine that were lost, and as Gordon Lightfoot says,

1545
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 2: the church bell chimed, and it chimed twenty nine times,

1546
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,640
Speaker 2: once for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald. So that

1547
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:46,400
Speaker 2: was fifty years ago. Today. There have been obviously many

1548
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 2: a shipwreck over the oceans and over the Great Lakes

1549
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 2: over the years in this country, but few would be

1550
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 2: as famous because of that song from Gordon Lightfoot, the

1551
01:25:56,680 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 2: Canadian singer as the Edmund Fitzgerald. On the tenth of

1552
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 2: November nineteen seventy five, Colts with a big win in overtime,

1553
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 2: snatching victory from the jaws of defeat against the Atlanta

1554
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 2: Falcons in Berlin. And it comes on the heels of

1555
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 2: something that I thought about in relation to college football

1556
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 2: that I had seen just hours before. Get back into

1557
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 2: all of that on the other side, here acquiring company

1558
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 2: ninety three five and one of seventy five to the fan.

1559
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: Be keeping your company for the next few hours.

1560
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 2: You are not going to believe the company, this company.

1561
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 1: You're in a bankrupt a mom of company. At least

1562
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 1: I have the radio to keep me company. On ninety

1563
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 1: three to five and one oh seven five the fan.

1564
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:48,160
Speaker 2: Big win for the Colts yesterday in Berlin. Good afternoon

1565
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 2: too you. My name is Jack Quarry. Eddie Garrison is

1566
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,559
Speaker 2: back tomorrow. If you are just joining us on the program.

1567
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 2: Kurt Gerald's capably filling in here today. And Eddie, now

1568
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 2: you got the call, Kurt Win out of the bullp

1569
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 2: What time did you get the phone call?

1570
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:03,200
Speaker 1: Yesterday?

1571
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:05,640
Speaker 4: I was in the middle of a wedding videographering a

1572
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 4: wedding and I was gonna have a good time.

1573
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 3: It was my cousin's wedding and the next thing I know,

1574
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 3: I had to put the drink that was in my

1575
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 3: hand down so I can make sure I made it

1576
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 3: on top.

1577
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:18,839
Speaker 2: Well, we appreciate that. So what happened was yesterday, Eddie Garrison,

1578
01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 2: our friend Pat Sullivan of Sullivan Hardware up there at

1579
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 2: seventy first and Keystone, and anybody knows, and they're obviously

1580
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 2: a multitude of Sullivan locations, but they have Does Sullivan

1581
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 2: the Holiday Train ride that and people love it. Kids

1582
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 2: in particular just go crazy for it. And they do

1583
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:39,679
Speaker 2: a I would assume some sort of an ad campaign.

1584
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 2: I think this is a television campaign. I'm not sure which,

1585
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:46,559
Speaker 2: but they Pat Sullivan and this guy's you know, you

1586
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 2: want to talk about being somebody that can look into

1587
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 2: the future. We all knew that it was going to

1588
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 2: be chilly today. I don't know that anybody knew other

1589
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 2: than the folks at Sullivan that we were going to

1590
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 2: see measure able bowl precipitation today. But nonetheless, they knew

1591
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 2: that that was going to happen. And my understanding is

1592
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:09,720
Speaker 2: they wanted to do some sort of videography to use

1593
01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:13,560
Speaker 2: that word, Kurt, of filming commercials or some sort of

1594
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 2: spots or advertisement or promotion for the holiday season at Sullivan.

1595
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 2: And with that they wanted and I think they were

1596
01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 2: kind of playing off of like you know, adult elves

1597
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 2: that you see in movies and characters and things like that,

1598
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 2: and Eddie it kind of fits the role. And so

1599
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 2: they they actually asked Eddie if he could go and

1600
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,719
Speaker 2: be a part of these holiday spots that are running

1601
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 2: for Sullivan and the commercials, dressed in his elf outfit.

1602
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,519
Speaker 2: And so Eddie today said, Hey, do you mind if

1603
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 2: I take the day off and Kurt will fill in

1604
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,200
Speaker 2: for me? And I said, not a problem at all.

1605
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 2: And that's what Eddie's doing, enjoying the snow. Now, the

1606
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:59,600
Speaker 2: snow itself is something that we did not anticipate it.

1607
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,040
Speaker 2: It was a little bit of a surprise today. And

1608
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: there are two ways to look at the snow. The

1609
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 2: first would be you could look at it and you

1610
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 2: say to yourself, this is beautiful, and it is. There's

1611
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 2: a level of like a calming effect to it. And

1612
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 2: you could also look at it and say, but it

1613
01:29:16,479 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 2: is perhaps forecast of things that you need to be

1614
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 2: prepared for moving forward here heading into the winter. And

1615
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 2: I think that that was indicative of so many aspects

1616
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 2: of the weekend of sports in Central Indiana, which began

1617
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 2: on Friday night with Purdue playing Oakland in basketball. The

1618
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 2: number one team in the country Purdue, and yes, traycoffin

1619
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:42,559
Speaker 2: ren is a huge part of what the Boilers want

1620
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 2: to do. But in that game against Oakland, who we

1621
01:29:45,240 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 2: know is always going to be well coached, but you're

1622
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 2: going up against the team out of the horizon who

1623
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 2: has been a very good program, but your ranked number

1624
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 2: one in the country, you anticipate that things are going

1625
01:29:58,439 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 2: to go more seamless for Purdue than they did. They

1626
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,840
Speaker 2: got really good play down the stretch and they hit

1627
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 2: some big shots down the stretch to extend out and

1628
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:12,559
Speaker 2: give themselves double digit breathing room. And you know, Fletcher

1629
01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 2: Lawyer hit a couple of big shots for them, but

1630
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 2: nonetheless it they dropped from number one to number two.

1631
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 2: And right there you're like, WHOA, Like, there are some

1632
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 2: things that Matt Painter, I'm sure wants to get short

1633
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 2: up or just get ironed out. And that's what the

1634
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 2: preseason is for. And then you go to Saturday and

1635
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:34,400
Speaker 2: a couple of things that came into play before we

1636
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:36,919
Speaker 2: get to the Colts about Indiana and Penn State on Saturday,

1637
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 2: number one Indiana for the vast majority of that game,

1638
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 2: and Happy Valley did not play well. And yes it

1639
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 2: is true. Like I saw the pregame interview that Churz

1640
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 2: Signetti did where you know, he's asked, well, you know

1641
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 2: Indiana has not won and Happy Value and says, well,

1642
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 2: this group's never played here. Okay, but what gives you

1643
01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 2: concern about Penn State. We're past the point of concern.

1644
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 2: We go out there now, we make plays, we win

1645
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 2: a football game. I get what Signette's doing, I get

1646
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 2: what he's saying. I also understand that if you are

1647
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:10,720
Speaker 2: somebody who is a fan outside of Indiana, if you're

1648
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 2: a fan of any program other than I You you

1649
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 2: see Signetti in that interview quite frankly as Yes, there

1650
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 2: is a confidence that has to come with being the

1651
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:24,559
Speaker 2: head coach in Indiana, undoubtedly, and what he has done

1652
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 2: is beyond miracle worker. He should not only be the

1653
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:29,600
Speaker 2: coach of the year this year in college school, but

1654
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:33,040
Speaker 2: he should be the coach of the decade, right, I mean, unquestionably,

1655
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 2: the guy is what he is doing is no one expected.

1656
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 2: He is the snowfall of November tenth. Nobody saw it coming.

1657
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:47,599
Speaker 2: But I also understand that when you have that level

1658
01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 2: of bravada about you, you better back it up resoundingly

1659
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:52,799
Speaker 2: or else people are going to come out of the woodwork.

1660
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 2: And that's what happened that I found fascinating. Indiana in

1661
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 2: that game against Penn State, they trailed the whole game,

1662
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 2: Brenanda Mendoza, not not trail the whole game, but they

1663
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 2: were leading most of the game actually, and then Penn

1664
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 2: State comes back, takes that lead and Indiana's got to

1665
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 2: go to the link to the field, and they had

1666
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 2: to go to the link to the field partially because

1667
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 2: of an interception that Brenanda Mendoza had thrown and Mendoza, who,

1668
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:23,439
Speaker 2: because of his efficiency his poise is not once but

1669
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 2: twice leading his team late in games down the field

1670
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 2: when they need a score, and being able to do it.

1671
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:35,760
Speaker 2: Those things have put him in the conversation of Heisman finalist,

1672
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 2: Heisman candidate, Heisman front runner, whichever way you want to

1673
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 2: look at it. That's all well and good, and it's

1674
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 2: fabulous and it's well deserved. But in that Penn State game,

1675
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:52,160
Speaker 2: for the vast majority of that game, Penn State was

1676
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 2: able to get to en rattle Mendoza, and he threw

1677
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 2: a costly interception that theoretically was going to cost Indiana

1678
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:05,080
Speaker 2: not just that game, but the chance potentially to host

1679
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:07,639
Speaker 2: a playoff game, or get a buy or stay ranked

1680
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 2: within the top five, whatever it may be. Because Penn State,

1681
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:14,120
Speaker 2: while they were admittedly a preseason top ten team, has

1682
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 2: completely the wheels have come off their year. They are

1683
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 2: going out there, they've got an interim coach, they you know,

1684
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 2: they've got a backup quarterback. I mean, everything that can

1685
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:28,720
Speaker 2: possibly go wrong has gone wrong for Penn State, and

1686
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 2: Indiana finds themselves where they've got to go the length

1687
01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:34,679
Speaker 2: of the field in under two minutes and Mendoza gets

1688
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 2: absolutely blasted on the first play, and then he starts

1689
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:46,440
Speaker 2: to make plays. And yes, part of it were fabulous

1690
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 2: catches by his receivers, no question. He was bailed out

1691
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 2: on a couple of plays by great catch, no question.

1692
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 2: But to have that poise to go down there and

1693
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 2: look in command and looked in command and he's he's

1694
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:08,559
Speaker 2: down his best receiver, his primary and favorite target, and

1695
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 2: Elijah Surratt is not out there. He has with him. Yes,

1696
01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 2: he has guys out there with him that he is

1697
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 2: familiar with, but not necessarily you know, Omar Cooper he's

1698
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:26,519
Speaker 2: familiar with, right, we know this, But outside of that,

1699
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 2: he is throwing to. If you look at late in

1700
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 2: that game, and if you look late in that game,

1701
01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:38,760
Speaker 2: at that last drive and even before that, one of

1702
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:44,360
Speaker 2: the key plays in that game, Charlie Becker, who's a sophomore,

1703
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 2: had I think eight catches for Indiana going into that

1704
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 2: Penn State game, and he basically doubled his season production.

1705
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:56,200
Speaker 2: And yes, and he made one catch that was phenomenal

1706
01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 2: in that drive. But then and the play that was

1707
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 2: made to win the game, the catch by Omar Cooper

1708
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 2: Junior was perfect in every aspect it was. It was

1709
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:13,040
Speaker 2: a slightly overthrown football, but it was also overthrown to

1710
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 2: the point where only the receiver could get to it.

1711
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 2: The vertical leap of Omar Cooper Junior is the most

1712
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 2: underrated part of that play. And everybody's seen the play

1713
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:24,760
Speaker 2: by now, and the body control to get the left

1714
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 2: foot down and keep the right foot up so that

1715
01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 2: it doesn't touch out of bounds prematurely, and negate the play,

1716
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:33,559
Speaker 2: the official to sit there and stare directly at it,

1717
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 2: all of it, all of it was the perfect play,

1718
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:41,960
Speaker 2: the perfect execution, and it allows Indiana to find a

1719
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 2: way to win. Now, great teams find ways to win

1720
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 2: off days, and Indiana found a way to win on

1721
01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 2: an off day. And then something happened in my mind

1722
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 2: that I thought I would never ever ever see. After

1723
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 2: the game, everyone from Gus Johnson and the part that

1724
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 2: you could understand and nationally speaking, literally the narrative of

1725
01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:14,880
Speaker 2: every single person involved in college football, from television to

1726
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 2: radio to print to social media, everyone was saying that

1727
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 2: was a Heisman moment. That was a Heisman moment. Now,

1728
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:30,559
Speaker 2: does that mean that that he emphatically won the Heisman? No,

1729
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 2: a Heisman moment means, if this guy's to win the

1730
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy, that's the play right there that they're forever

1731
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 2: going to talk about. When Desmond Howard had the punt

1732
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:44,759
Speaker 2: return and did the Heisman post, that was his Heisman moment.

1733
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 2: When Charles Woodson had a key interception for Michigan against Ohio,

1734
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 2: that was his Heisman moment. There are moments of guys'

1735
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 2: careers where you look at it and you say, just

1736
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:03,559
Speaker 2: like when you watch a great movie and you see

1737
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 2: an unbelievable scene from an actor or actress and you say,

1738
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 2: if they're to win the Oscar, that's what they're gonna play.

1739
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 2: When they're walking up to take the stage, that's their

1740
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 2: Oscar moment. And for Mendoza, in what has been a

1741
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:23,679
Speaker 2: remarkable year and incredibly for the most part, consistent year

1742
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 2: of high level of play and efficiency, the Illinois game

1743
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 2: where Indiana absolutely demolished Illinois on national television in primetime

1744
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:34,600
Speaker 2: and he was what twenty three or twenty six for

1745
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 2: five touchdowns, and then the Penn State game again a

1746
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 2: nationally televised game, and everybody when Indiana started to go

1747
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaker 2: down the field literally there were numerous things you could

1748
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 2: see where people were saying, Okay, okay, if you're gonna

1749
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 2: win the Heisman, it better then you're gonna have to

1750
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:58,680
Speaker 2: go out there. And if you are an elite level quarterback,

1751
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 2: if you were a first round pick, you take your

1752
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:02,679
Speaker 2: team down the field. And that's exactly what he did.

1753
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 2: And then I started seeing it all over the place.

1754
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 2: I simply said a thing that said, that's the greatest

1755
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 2: catch in the history of Indiana football. And I even said, albeit,

1756
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 2: consider the history, but that's the greatest catch in the

1757
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 2: history of Indiana football. Meaning there ain't a lot of

1758
01:38:22,240 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 2: history there. It's like being the tallest member of the

1759
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 2: Lollipop Guild, admittedly, but nonetheless it is a fabulous play.

1760
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 2: It is the greatest catch in the history of Indiana football.

1761
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:38,880
Speaker 2: And social media wise, the responses were from Ohio State fans,

1762
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:42,000
Speaker 2: Oh great, what you mean something in the nineteen ninety

1763
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:45,640
Speaker 2: one Coppara Bowle wasn't as great. That's exactly what I

1764
01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:49,640
Speaker 2: just said. Yes, there's not a lot of but nonetheless,

1765
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 2: that is an unbelievable play, And I don't care who

1766
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 2: it is. If Ted Ginn Junior had made that catch,

1767
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 2: if Marvin Harrison Junior had made that catch in the

1768
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,800
Speaker 2: if Chris Carter had made that catch for Ohio State,

1769
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 2: it would be on a wall somewhere in a bar

1770
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,519
Speaker 2: in Columbus. It was that great a catch. I don't

1771
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:09,640
Speaker 2: care who it's for, and especially when you consider what

1772
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:13,479
Speaker 2: was on the line for them. But Ohio State fans

1773
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 2: started coming out of the woodwork, and Ohio State fans

1774
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 2: were coming out and making the case for their quarterback,

1775
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:24,600
Speaker 2: who against Illinois, for example, had a very average performance,

1776
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:27,639
Speaker 2: truth be told, but they Ohio State fans were coming

1777
01:39:27,640 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 2: out of the woodwork to discredit Indiana, to discredit Mendoza.

1778
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 2: And I do get that Indiana is led by a

1779
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 2: coach that when he took the job, started out by

1780
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 2: saying Ohio State sucks. Actually he said Produce sucks, and

1781
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 2: so too tos Ohio State. I understand that that bravada

1782
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 2: means that you are going to get things coming your way.

1783
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:50,679
Speaker 2: I totally understand all of that. But what I found

1784
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:53,679
Speaker 2: truly amazing was for Ohio State, who is the reigning

1785
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 2: national champion, who has NFL stars all over the place,

1786
01:39:57,320 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 2: who is sitting there watching a quarterback who is down

1787
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 2: his best receiver, who is down half his offensive line,

1788
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 2: leading his team to a victory when they most needed it,

1789
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:11,080
Speaker 2: and their immediate reaction is to push their chest out

1790
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:17,439
Speaker 2: and continue to pontificate and boisterously and vociferously push out

1791
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 2: about the superiority of Ohio State, of which no one

1792
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 2: is questioning. Ohio State's rake number one in the country.

1793
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 2: They're the reigning national champions. And how does it come

1794
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:31,600
Speaker 2: to be on the weekend that Indiana moves past Northwestern

1795
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:36,560
Speaker 2: because Northwestern lost in Indiana won, and so therefore Northwestern

1796
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 2: takes the title back in the thrown back as the

1797
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 2: losingest program in the history of Division one college football

1798
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 2: in Indiana. Lowly Indiana, who has now the second highest

1799
01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 2: number of losses in the history of Division one college football,

1800
01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 2: is dancing in the head of Brutus. Indiana is in

1801
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 2: the head of Ohio State. I never thought i'd see it.

1802
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:01,839
Speaker 2: I never thought i'd see the were Ohio State fans

1803
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 2: who literally literally, if you were on the Titanic, right

1804
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:08,920
Speaker 2: when the water was about to hit your chin, if

1805
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:10,679
Speaker 2: the guy next to you had gone to Ohio State,

1806
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 2: his last thing would be, by the way, do you

1807
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:13,560
Speaker 2: know I went to Ohio State? Yeah, I get it.

1808
01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 2: You're a Ohio State fan. Great Ohio State fans spent

1809
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 2: their weekend jumping up and down to anybody that would

1810
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 2: listen to them, arguing about their superiority of Indiana football. Indiana,

1811
01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:28,680
Speaker 2: who owns the best wins so far this year in

1812
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:31,760
Speaker 2: the Big Ten on the road at Wisconsin or excuse me,

1813
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 2: at Oregon is the best win in the Big Ten?

1814
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:39,480
Speaker 2: They got Wisconsin coming up and Purdue and then theoretically

1815
01:41:41,080 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 2: they go into the Big Ten title game against Ohio State.

1816
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 2: But as I was thinking about all of that, and

1817
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:50,519
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there incredulously reading all of this stuff from

1818
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:56,439
Speaker 2: this totally insecure, unjustifiably fan base of Ohio State. As

1819
01:41:56,479 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 2: I'm reading all of it, then at three forty eight

1820
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:02,160
Speaker 2: in the morning, staring at the ceiling, I get this

1821
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:05,240
Speaker 2: brain dropping that I never thought i'd think. I never

1822
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:08,599
Speaker 2: thought i'd think it, but it hit me. The brain

1823
01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 2: dropping hits me where I say to myself, is it

1824
01:42:13,479 --> 01:42:16,639
Speaker 2: possible that Penn State, who's looking for a head football coach?

1825
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 2: Is it possible that Indiana, Indiana is the best job

1826
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 2: in college football as a head coach not has done

1827
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:32,879
Speaker 2: the best job, is the best job in college football

1828
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 2: because in the NIL era and in the transfer portal era. Yes,

1829
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 2: Penn State has all the tradition. Penn State's got one

1830
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 2: hundred and ten thousand every single game and wide out

1831
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:47,719
Speaker 2: and all of that, and it's in a fertile recruiting ground.

1832
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:52,599
Speaker 2: But at the same time, at Penn State, you are

1833
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:58,600
Speaker 2: constantly living up to the pressures and the barometer that

1834
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 2: was set by one coach in Joe Paterno, and they're

1835
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:08,879
Speaker 2: scandal there. And I loved Joe Paterno for the ninety

1836
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:11,080
Speaker 2: eight percent of the time that he was at Penn State,

1837
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 2: as did most people. But if you look at Alabama,

1838
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 2: or you look at Texas, or you look at even Florida,

1839
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 2: there are multiple coaches that have been there and left footprint.

1840
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:30,880
Speaker 2: If you look at the jobs that have never been

1841
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:35,599
Speaker 2: able to match up to it, Indiana in basketball and yes,

1842
01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:37,920
Speaker 2: I know Branch McCracken had a lot of success there,

1843
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:42,840
Speaker 2: But Indiana in basketball, Nebraska in football, those programs have

1844
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 2: one coach that became larger than life, that became part

1845
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:49,559
Speaker 2: of the culture, that became synonymous with that university, and

1846
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:55,120
Speaker 2: it's impossible for people to live up to it. Ohio State,

1847
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:59,600
Speaker 2: for that matter, I mean Ohio State, Ryan Day is

1848
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:03,360
Speaker 2: he chase what he hayes or is he chasing Urban Meyer?

1849
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:05,760
Speaker 2: There are multiple things there, and so you just kind

1850
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 2: of settle in. And I give Ryan Day a ton

1851
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 2: of credit because when the going was tough because of

1852
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 2: the Ohio state fan base that wanted that guy out.

1853
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 2: Whether you believe it or not, Buckeye fans, you wanted

1854
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 2: him out. But rational not always the word we use

1855
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:24,800
Speaker 2: to describe the fan base, but because he couldn't beat Michigan,

1856
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 2: you wanted him out. And then he goes and wins

1857
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 2: a national title. And from Indiana's standpoint, I look at

1858
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:33,679
Speaker 2: that job and in today's era where you can flip things,

1859
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 2: and Indiana was ahead of it on the transfer portal,

1860
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 2: nil stuff. And they go out and they get Kurt Signetti,

1861
01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 2: who wanted a smaller level and brings with them eighteen

1862
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:45,280
Speaker 2: players or whatever it was from JMU and brings this

1863
01:44:45,400 --> 01:44:51,839
Speaker 2: culture shift. And now at Indiana you have the ability

1864
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 2: to make ten million a year. You're chasing what I mean,

1865
01:44:56,600 --> 01:44:59,400
Speaker 2: Bill Mallory was a great principled man and a very

1866
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 2: good football coach. But in Indiana already you're chasing Kurt Signetti.

1867
01:45:07,479 --> 01:45:11,640
Speaker 2: The Indiana fan base is such that they're going to

1868
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:13,800
Speaker 2: give you whatever you need. At this point, you've got

1869
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:16,680
Speaker 2: ten million, you've got facilities, you're adding on to it,

1870
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:22,040
Speaker 2: and you have a fan base that is all in

1871
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:26,679
Speaker 2: and the expectations are none zero. Is it the best

1872
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 2: job in college football? Of course, I don't think that

1873
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 2: Indiana football is up there with the others. But in

1874
01:45:32,080 --> 01:45:34,280
Speaker 2: terms of if you were to ask a coach, it

1875
01:45:34,360 --> 01:45:37,439
Speaker 2: is a situation like in Indiana that they would most

1876
01:45:37,520 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 2: want to go to a place that gives you an

1877
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:45,160
Speaker 2: open pocketbook and open facility, renovation, whatever it is that

1878
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 2: you need, and then says, the only thing we're not

1879
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 2: giving you is a ton of pressure and expectation to

1880
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:53,519
Speaker 2: win ten games. Now, now that's going to change for Indiana.

1881
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:56,760
Speaker 2: Admittedly the fan base is going to become accustomed to it.

1882
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:00,799
Speaker 2: But when you look at what happened in Happy Valley,

1883
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:04,400
Speaker 2: is Penn State a program now that has become Indiana

1884
01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 2: basketball or Nebraska football where you are chasing something that

1885
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:13,720
Speaker 2: can't be achieved and will never come back because of

1886
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 2: the portal nil era. It changes the complexity of all

1887
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 2: of it, all of it, and for Indiana, what you

1888
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:26,680
Speaker 2: saw was a great win. But like I said, with

1889
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 2: that snow that happened earlier. Today, with unexpected beauty also

1890
01:46:32,240 --> 01:46:38,120
Speaker 2: comes the forecast of potential challenger problem, And in Indiana's case,

1891
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:40,760
Speaker 2: that challenge of problem is going to be the expectation

1892
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:43,280
Speaker 2: continues to increase. And what does that mean year in,

1893
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:46,400
Speaker 2: year out, And when you have a coach that is saying,

1894
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 2: like he did, Kurt Signetti in the pregame and the

1895
01:46:50,040 --> 01:46:52,599
Speaker 2: things that he said about Ohio State, as soon as

1896
01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 2: there is any light coming through that armor, people are

1897
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,559
Speaker 2: going to come pouring in against Indiana. You already started

1898
01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 2: to see it Saturday night. And for the Colts, the

1899
01:47:03,680 --> 01:47:08,480
Speaker 2: unexpected beauty of an eight and two start, the unexpected

1900
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:14,559
Speaker 2: aesthetics like a November tenth snow storm or snowfall, of

1901
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:16,920
Speaker 2: the beauty of it and looking at it and saying,

1902
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:22,720
Speaker 2: this is wonderful. But at the end of years, when

1903
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 2: in the end of seasons, when teams have their season

1904
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:32,120
Speaker 2: come to an end, oftentimes, oftentimes it is a microcosm

1905
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 2: of the season that does a team in and the

1906
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 2: Colts and their unbelievable pre by start of eight and

1907
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 2: two and a stranglehold on their division and what looks

1908
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:49,439
Speaker 2: to be an inevitable top two to three seed in

1909
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 2: the AFC and at this point still locked in for

1910
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:55,240
Speaker 2: the number one overall seed, but the schedule gets a

1911
01:47:55,280 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 2: little bit tougher and some of the things that come

1912
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 2: with an eight and two start and kind of backpedaling

1913
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:05,800
Speaker 2: your way into the by I know, they got to

1914
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:11,840
Speaker 2: win over Atlanta, but having to basically snatch victory from

1915
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:14,679
Speaker 2: the jaws of defeat, having to get a great drive

1916
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 2: at the end of the game. Those things are great,

1917
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 2: but there are things that popped up where you know,

1918
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:24,800
Speaker 2: the snow looks beautiful, but it also makes the road

1919
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:28,639
Speaker 2: a little more slippery, and eight and two looks beautiful,

1920
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 2: but it makes things a little more challenging coming on

1921
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:34,040
Speaker 2: the other side of the bye because there are challenges

1922
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 2: and there are things that are going to pop up

1923
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:40,560
Speaker 2: on the Colts that have presented themselves in the smallest

1924
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:45,160
Speaker 2: of fashion, and they give me some pause. And yes,

1925
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 2: you want to look at it and say eight and two, Jake,

1926
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:54,479
Speaker 2: who in the world if you would have gone back

1927
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 2: to August and said, listen, heading into the bye week,

1928
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:00,720
Speaker 2: I know exactly what the crystal ball looks like for

1929
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 2: the Colts, and it's eight and two and first place

1930
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:06,719
Speaker 2: and by all means you would assume winning the AFC South,

1931
01:49:07,120 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 2: I would say, sign me up eight days a week.

1932
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:16,720
Speaker 2: But we're greedy right as sports fans, And just like

1933
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:19,559
Speaker 2: right now for Indiana football, you say sign me up

1934
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:21,719
Speaker 2: at ten and oh for Kurt Signetti, we get greedy,

1935
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:23,840
Speaker 2: right And does that mean that that expectation is going

1936
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 2: to be the same down the road and the same

1937
01:49:27,560 --> 01:49:30,040
Speaker 2: is true for the Colts if we're going to nitpiket.

1938
01:49:30,040 --> 01:49:36,240
Speaker 2: There are areas of concern. Jonathan Taylor was unbelievable and

1939
01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:38,680
Speaker 2: he is the most valuable player in the NFL. I

1940
01:49:38,720 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 2: said at the beginning of the year, or you know,

1941
01:49:41,040 --> 01:49:43,919
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, when Daniel Jones was clicking

1942
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,000
Speaker 2: and flying at a high level for the Colts, that

1943
01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:49,559
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones was their MVP, and at that time it

1944
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:52,719
Speaker 2: probably was the case. But what we are seeing now

1945
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:54,800
Speaker 2: is the Colts in the way that they're able to

1946
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 2: win football games. Jonathan Taylor is their most valuable player

1947
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 2: and probably the MVP right now out in the NFL.

1948
01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:06,360
Speaker 2: I mean, sure, Drake Mays in the discussion, right, I

1949
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 2: get it. I mean there are other players that are

1950
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:12,720
Speaker 2: going to be thought about. You know when Stafford for

1951
01:50:12,760 --> 01:50:14,680
Speaker 2: that matter, at the way he's playing, that are going

1952
01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:16,880
Speaker 2: to be in the conversation. But Jonathan Taylor's one of them.

1953
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:22,000
Speaker 2: But just because you're heading into the by, you've got

1954
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:24,080
Speaker 2: a little bit more time to think about it. There

1955
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:26,760
Speaker 2: were a couple of things that I worry about as

1956
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 2: the microcosm, because with the snow comes treacherous stuff, and

1957
01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 2: you know that it means forecast of potential problems ahead,

1958
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:35,800
Speaker 2: and the Colts might have a couple of them. We'll

1959
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:38,519
Speaker 2: address that, and I would like your thoughts on what

1960
01:50:38,560 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 2: you saw over the weekend at two through nine ten

1961
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:43,639
Speaker 2: seventy as well. If you'd like to join the program,

1962
01:50:43,640 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 2: we'll do it on the other side.

1963
01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 7: Here on the fan, you're listening to Query and Company

1964
01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:56,200
Speaker 7: on Nutty three five and one oh seven five the Fan.

1965
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:06,200
Speaker 2: Two through nine, ten seventy is the telephone number. Earlier

1966
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 2: I was asking for ten or words ten fewer ten

1967
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:13,960
Speaker 2: words or fewer excuse me on the expost Twitter in

1968
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:17,160
Speaker 2: terms of your thoughts on the cold season to this point,

1969
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 2: and the overwhelming sentiment simply was, Yeah, this is where

1970
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 2: I thought they would be, but are there areas to

1971
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 2: be concerned? And look, you don't want to look at

1972
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:32,720
Speaker 2: gift horse in the mouth, but I'm going to do

1973
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 2: exactly that. You're eight and two, the AFC South looks like,

1974
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:40,960
Speaker 2: barring a collapse, it's going to be yours schedule. Now

1975
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:43,160
Speaker 2: you have the bye week, then it's Kansas City, and

1976
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:45,719
Speaker 2: then you got back to back with the AFC South

1977
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:49,920
Speaker 2: with Houston and Jacksonville. You can really separate yourself at

1978
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:56,960
Speaker 2: that point. But the the areas to me that would

1979
01:51:57,000 --> 01:52:03,640
Speaker 2: give you, if you will, concern number one, the inefficiency

1980
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:07,080
Speaker 2: in the red zone. They had I believe four trips

1981
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:08,800
Speaker 2: to the red zone where they got nothing out of it.

1982
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:13,080
Speaker 2: And yes, Jonathan Taylor bails you out of that with

1983
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:18,599
Speaker 2: big time plays. Okay, and Jonathan Taylor was brilliant yesterday.

1984
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:25,240
Speaker 2: He was brilliant. Zero complaints in regards to that. But

1985
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:31,680
Speaker 2: what Taylor in his big plays can mask is the inefficiency. Otherwise,

1986
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:39,439
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones has been so good at taking care of

1987
01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:45,680
Speaker 2: the football that you now wonder what's going on in

1988
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:48,360
Speaker 2: terms of the inability to do exactly that. And we

1989
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 2: started to see the face of the other side of

1990
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:59,720
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, and that somewhat is indicative for the Colts themselves.

1991
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:04,200
Speaker 2: Of will the real Colts please stand up? Yes, they

1992
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 2: are still the Colts in the fact that they're winning games,

1993
01:53:06,479 --> 01:53:10,479
Speaker 2: but the things that they were doing so well for

1994
01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:13,240
Speaker 2: so long are starting to go away a little bit.

1995
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:15,360
Speaker 2: And now all of a sudden, they're a team that's

1996
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:17,760
Speaker 2: a little more careless with the football. They are a

1997
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:20,720
Speaker 2: team that is not executing in the red zone when

1998
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:23,720
Speaker 2: they need to be. They are a team that is

1999
01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 2: not getting consistency in the kicking game. That's kind of

2000
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:31,000
Speaker 2: been a problem all year long. But Michael Badgeley yesterday

2001
01:53:31,320 --> 01:53:35,040
Speaker 2: that again area of concern and teams at the end

2002
01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:37,439
Speaker 2: of the year when they lose, it is always a

2003
01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 2: microcosm of the things that glimpse themselves that you managed

2004
01:53:42,479 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 2: to hold off over the course of the year. And

2005
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:48,559
Speaker 2: you combine those things with no DeForest Buckner, which I think,

2006
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 2: and you don't know when to Forest Buckner is going

2007
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 2: to be healthy and back a neck injury. You know

2008
01:53:54,479 --> 01:54:00,520
Speaker 2: that gets sticky there, right, And Sauce Gardner, I thought,

2009
01:54:00,920 --> 01:54:04,559
Speaker 2: gave them a different wrinkle and look because of the

2010
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:06,960
Speaker 2: fact that they could press a little bit more. I

2011
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 2: thought that the lineup in terms of especially in the final,

2012
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:13,800
Speaker 2: the overtime for Atlanta saws Gardner once he was getting

2013
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 2: a little more comfortable in there and allowed you to

2014
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:21,040
Speaker 2: be a little bit more aggressive and kind of taking

2015
01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:23,559
Speaker 2: away that side of the field as well, And that

2016
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:29,800
Speaker 2: was you like that, And Tyler Warren made not one,

2017
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 2: but two really big plays for them at the time

2018
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 2: when they most needed it. But the little things that

2019
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:41,000
Speaker 2: we talked about for the first say month and a

2020
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:44,640
Speaker 2: half of the year, that we thought were taken care of,

2021
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:50,240
Speaker 2: are starting to show themselves, not at this point as

2022
01:54:51,800 --> 01:54:56,200
Speaker 2: fatal errors, but they can compound and they need to

2023
01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:58,840
Speaker 2: be addressed. So the phone lines we go two, three, nine,

2024
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 2: ten seventy is to tell. Number will begin with James

2025
01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 2: James on a snowy Monday, what's up?

2026
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 11: Not much? Trying to recover from this weekend football? And

2027
01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:14,720
Speaker 11: get how it made my heart go to levels I

2028
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:15,640
Speaker 11: didn't know it could.

2029
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just about every game right.

2030
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 11: Yes, and I'm I'm calling on it in the IU

2031
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:26,160
Speaker 11: part of it, okay. And one thing I like about

2032
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 11: our current coach is going forward. I think he has

2033
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 11: the ability along with his assistants, and we have to

2034
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:38,640
Speaker 11: keep them to find the talent and the poor and

2035
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:42,919
Speaker 11: then turn around and cultivate it. So I think going forward,

2036
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:45,480
Speaker 11: we're in a good spot. The other thing is he

2037
01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:48,400
Speaker 11: had a great system as far as I can tell,

2038
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:52,360
Speaker 11: to bring players in and as long as they buy

2039
01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:55,080
Speaker 11: into the culture, and he makes sure to get players

2040
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:56,320
Speaker 11: who buy into that.

2041
01:55:56,520 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 2: That's now, James. You just hit on it there.

2042
01:55:58,160 --> 01:55:59,040
Speaker 11: We're doing great.

2043
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 2: You just hit on it there, James. And I think

2044
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 2: you make a great point in terms of players that

2045
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:05,160
Speaker 2: buy in, because the one question I have is this,

2046
01:56:05,240 --> 01:56:10,160
Speaker 2: and that is right now, Indiana's entire mantra, I think

2047
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 2: to a great extent, and one of the things that

2048
01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti has been able to tap into in guys

2049
01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:18,680
Speaker 2: is push the buttons of showing that they have something

2050
01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:22,600
Speaker 2: to prove, right and getting guys. Indiana's roster right now

2051
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 2: is predominantly guys that were overlooked through the process. They

2052
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:29,320
Speaker 2: ended up at JMU, or they were players that did

2053
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:32,640
Speaker 2: not get the offers from the Texases and the Alabamas,

2054
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:37,680
Speaker 2: and so therefore they have this vendetta, right, this something

2055
01:56:37,720 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 2: to prove chip on their shoulder. And how does that

2056
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 2: change Indiana's culture If in fact, you are elevating to

2057
01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:46,800
Speaker 2: the point where you're getting guys coming in that have

2058
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:49,640
Speaker 2: already proven it through the recruiting cycle and already are

2059
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:53,320
Speaker 2: aware of the fact that everybody believes in them. Steve

2060
01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:55,440
Speaker 2: is up next, Steve, what's up?

2061
01:56:56,560 --> 01:56:56,760
Speaker 8: Hey?

2062
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:01,960
Speaker 12: A little bit more information about Edmund Fitzgerald if you're

2063
01:57:01,960 --> 01:57:02,839
Speaker 12: okay with this.

2064
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:05,560
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, fifty years ago today, the Edmond Fitzgerald sank

2065
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:07,600
Speaker 2: in Lake Superior. I mentioned it earlier. Yep.

2066
01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:08,960
Speaker 9: Right.

2067
01:57:09,960 --> 01:57:16,760
Speaker 12: There's a museum called Shipwreck Museum and Whitefish Point, Michigan.

2068
01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:17,720
Speaker 2: Far northern Michigan.

2069
01:57:17,800 --> 01:57:23,280
Speaker 13: Correct, right, right, And we happen to be up there

2070
01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 13: this summer, and they have quite a bit of the.

2071
01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:33,960
Speaker 12: Museum or one of the buildings devoted to just this

2072
01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:38,920
Speaker 12: topic and like that. And then this afternoon, actually there's

2073
01:57:39,080 --> 01:57:42,040
Speaker 12: a memorial service as we speak going on for the

2074
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 12: general public, but then a private one for the family

2075
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 12: tonight at seven.

2076
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:51,080
Speaker 2: The ship bell of the Edmond Fitzgerald is in said

2077
01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:53,120
Speaker 2: shipwreck museum. Is that correct?

2078
01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:55,400
Speaker 12: I'm sorry I say it again.

2079
01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 2: I'm using the I don't know if I'm using the

2080
01:57:58,640 --> 01:58:03,200
Speaker 2: right terminology. The bell, Yes, the bell offered the Evan

2081
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:06,920
Speaker 2: Fitzgerald is in that museum, correct, Steve, it is.

2082
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:11,640
Speaker 12: And they've got a little film about it and one

2083
01:58:11,680 --> 01:58:15,040
Speaker 12: of their buildings. One thing that's kind of an interesting

2084
01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:19,720
Speaker 12: point about it is that it actually, as they present

2085
01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:24,920
Speaker 12: it happened in Canadian water, and so it took some

2086
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:28,960
Speaker 12: time before it was worked out between the US and

2087
01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:35,560
Speaker 12: Canada to actually go exploring and be able to go

2088
01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:39,640
Speaker 12: down and find remains. It didn't like happen well, and

2089
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:43,320
Speaker 12: probably the technology wasn't there at that time anyway, and

2090
01:58:43,400 --> 01:58:45,760
Speaker 12: the ability to do that. But it took a few

2091
01:58:45,800 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 12: years working out with the Canadian government and American government

2092
01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:55,080
Speaker 12: to be able to go and get the remains that

2093
01:58:55,160 --> 01:58:56,040
Speaker 12: they could well.

2094
01:58:56,080 --> 01:58:58,320
Speaker 2: And I also know Steve, I appreciate the call. There

2095
01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:01,880
Speaker 2: is an anchor on Bell in Detroit, just outside of

2096
01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:04,720
Speaker 2: the Maritimes Sailor's Cathedral. There's an anchor that is on

2097
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:07,600
Speaker 2: display there for the Edmond Fitzgerald. It is not the

2098
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:10,520
Speaker 2: anchor that was on the Fitzgerald at the time of

2099
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:13,360
Speaker 2: its shipwreck, but one you know, again, the Edmon Fitzgerald

2100
01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:15,320
Speaker 2: was in commission for eighteen years before it went down,

2101
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:18,280
Speaker 2: so one of the acres anchors from it is there

2102
01:59:18,280 --> 01:59:20,240
Speaker 2: as well. I've always wanted to go. Tracy Forner and

2103
01:59:20,320 --> 01:59:22,080
Speaker 2: I have said forever we're going to road trip up

2104
01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:25,480
Speaker 2: to that museum in northern Michigan. So I appreciate the

2105
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:29,200
Speaker 2: call on that. Ryan is up next, Ryan, what's going on?

2106
01:59:30,680 --> 01:59:33,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, Hey, Jake was just calling in on the.

2107
01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:34,960
Speaker 14: Colts team and getting your thoughts and I'll hang up

2108
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:38,760
Speaker 14: after I asked my question about the uber aggressiveness with

2109
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:42,440
Speaker 14: which we seem to operate at all times of the game,

2110
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:46,560
Speaker 14: regardless of score, in terms of going for fourth downs,

2111
01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:50,440
Speaker 14: where you are essuwing three points to you know, for

2112
01:59:50,480 --> 01:59:53,960
Speaker 14: the opportunity at seven or in our case yesterday zero

2113
01:59:54,160 --> 01:59:56,880
Speaker 14: on two occasions in a game that was you know,

2114
01:59:56,960 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 14: coming down to the wire against an offense that wasn't

2115
02:00:00,240 --> 02:00:02,680
Speaker 14: on all cylinders. It's not the two thousand Rams or

2116
02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:05,560
Speaker 14: the Mahomes led Chiefs. So I just wanted to get

2117
02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:09,960
Speaker 14: your take on our coach's decision. Well, no question, Always

2118
02:00:09,960 --> 02:00:11,280
Speaker 14: go for it on fourth down.

2119
02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 2: No question, Ryan. Because I talked about the red zone

2120
02:00:13,400 --> 02:00:16,640
Speaker 2: and I appreciated the red zone inefficiencies, and somebody sent

2121
02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:18,840
Speaker 2: me a thing that said it was less red zone

2122
02:00:18,840 --> 02:00:23,160
Speaker 2: inefficiency and more red zone coaching inefficiency, and there's probably

2123
02:00:23,200 --> 02:00:25,080
Speaker 2: some truth to that. I think it's a combination of

2124
02:00:25,120 --> 02:00:28,480
Speaker 2: two things, as Mike Chapel said, one is a confidence

2125
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:32,720
Speaker 2: and Shane Steichen's whole MO I think is to hey,

2126
02:00:32,760 --> 02:00:34,400
Speaker 2: I believe in my guys, and I'm going to push

2127
02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:36,600
Speaker 2: forward and I'm going to continue I'm going to coach

2128
02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:39,440
Speaker 2: them by continuing to tap into the confidence I have

2129
02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:44,120
Speaker 2: in them. But you also have to be realistic as

2130
02:00:44,120 --> 02:00:47,640
Speaker 2: to game situation. And at times it is my belief

2131
02:00:47,760 --> 02:00:51,400
Speaker 2: Ryan that the aggression based and rooted in the confidence

2132
02:00:51,800 --> 02:00:55,680
Speaker 2: can then become offsetting because you are in fact not

2133
02:00:55,800 --> 02:00:59,120
Speaker 2: going strategically as you'd mentioned with what is the smarter play,

2134
02:00:59,440 --> 02:01:01,440
Speaker 2: and you have to wonder as well with that how

2135
02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:04,200
Speaker 2: much of that is a non confidence in the kicking game,

2136
02:01:05,200 --> 02:01:09,240
Speaker 2: you know, in terms of the overtime, Taylor bails you

2137
02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:10,960
Speaker 2: out with that. You know, obviously you go right down

2138
02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:15,680
Speaker 2: and you score right but yes, there were situations prior

2139
02:01:15,720 --> 02:01:18,480
Speaker 2: to that, and even you almost wondered, like in the

2140
02:01:18,520 --> 02:01:21,880
Speaker 2: overtime on the on a fourth down, you know, if

2141
02:01:21,880 --> 02:01:23,840
Speaker 2: they'd had it at the fifteen with it gone forward

2142
02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:25,600
Speaker 2: instead of just kicking the field goal and walking off.

2143
02:01:25,840 --> 02:01:29,200
Speaker 2: And I'm being facetious, but yes, I think it is

2144
02:01:29,240 --> 02:01:32,560
Speaker 2: because of the fact that Shane Steichen in his coaching

2145
02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:37,080
Speaker 2: style is to believe in guys and pump them up

2146
02:01:37,120 --> 02:01:40,840
Speaker 2: and push them up. But you also wonder Ryan if

2147
02:01:40,840 --> 02:01:43,000
Speaker 2: that does not take one too many spins at the

2148
02:01:43,080 --> 02:01:46,400
Speaker 2: roulette wheel, which in fact, can be the kind of

2149
02:01:46,400 --> 02:01:49,240
Speaker 2: thing late in the year that then you look back

2150
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:52,000
Speaker 2: on and say, that's a microcosm that presented itself and

2151
02:01:52,160 --> 02:01:55,960
Speaker 2: was never short up. I don't disagree with the subliminal

2152
02:01:56,000 --> 02:02:00,280
Speaker 2: statement you're saying there, Jonah at two nine ten seventy Jonah, Up?

2153
02:02:00,360 --> 02:02:02,160
Speaker 2: What's up, hey, Jake?

2154
02:02:02,200 --> 02:02:02,640
Speaker 9: How you doing?

2155
02:02:02,680 --> 02:02:07,000
Speaker 2: It's been been about a month, Jonah. I'm sure you

2156
02:02:07,080 --> 02:02:09,560
Speaker 2: are missing Arizona when you see the snow outside, right,

2157
02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:11,280
Speaker 2: Uh you know what?

2158
02:02:12,240 --> 02:02:12,440
Speaker 5: Yes?

2159
02:02:12,520 --> 02:02:14,760
Speaker 9: And no, I mean Arizona winners and ice. But it's

2160
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:15,160
Speaker 9: gonna be.

2161
02:02:15,120 --> 02:02:17,640
Speaker 2: Back home fair enough, all right? What's on your mind?

2162
02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:21,800
Speaker 10: Well, good win yesterday against the Falcons team. I know

2163
02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:23,560
Speaker 10: a lot of people are like, well they're three and five. Well,

2164
02:02:23,600 --> 02:02:26,160
Speaker 10: this is also a desperate Falcons team that's trying to

2165
02:02:26,160 --> 02:02:29,360
Speaker 10: fight for a in a weak NFC syuth. So in

2166
02:02:29,400 --> 02:02:31,000
Speaker 10: my opinion, it's just a very good win on a

2167
02:02:31,000 --> 02:02:36,120
Speaker 10: big stage. I like Shane Sticken as a coach. I

2168
02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:40,000
Speaker 10: think he's very good at x y Z. But I

2169
02:02:40,040 --> 02:02:41,520
Speaker 10: do think Jonathan Taylor built him.

2170
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:43,600
Speaker 2: Out yesterday, I would agree with that.

2171
02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:46,920
Speaker 10: My biggest scrape on Shane is he is one of

2172
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:50,080
Speaker 10: the worst clock management coaches in like the final two

2173
02:02:50,080 --> 02:02:52,480
Speaker 10: minutes I have seen. I thought he's worse than Frank

2174
02:02:52,520 --> 02:02:54,080
Speaker 10: Reik and I thought that was the saying a lot.

2175
02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:58,120
Speaker 10: But there's some of the head scratchers and in game adjustments.

2176
02:02:58,400 --> 02:02:59,840
Speaker 10: Uh just sometimes I'm.

2177
02:02:59,680 --> 02:03:02,680
Speaker 2: Just like, well, Jonah, here's the thing, here's the thing

2178
02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:04,720
Speaker 2: that I would say when it comes to that. I

2179
02:03:04,760 --> 02:03:07,760
Speaker 2: think Steichen is a high energy like believing it. You

2180
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:09,640
Speaker 2: could see it in the postgame stuff that he talks

2181
02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:13,560
Speaker 2: about and when he addresses his team. I think he's

2182
02:03:13,800 --> 02:03:16,840
Speaker 2: very laser focused, like you know what do they say?

2183
02:03:16,880 --> 02:03:20,000
Speaker 2: He's all ball, right, But I think when the arrows

2184
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:22,360
Speaker 2: are flying, he gets caught up sometimes in the speed

2185
02:03:22,400 --> 02:03:24,960
Speaker 2: of that, and that goes back to the previous point

2186
02:03:25,000 --> 02:03:27,720
Speaker 2: of I think sometimes then he's thinking too far ahead

2187
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:31,680
Speaker 2: and not thinking in the moment, and that comes with time, right,

2188
02:03:31,720 --> 02:03:37,120
Speaker 2: I mean, it does come with time, but a fair assessment. Nonetheless, Lastly, Martin,

2189
02:03:38,120 --> 02:03:38,920
Speaker 2: what's up Martin?

2190
02:03:40,200 --> 02:03:40,880
Speaker 9: Hey, what's up?

2191
02:03:40,960 --> 02:03:41,160
Speaker 7: Jake?

2192
02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:41,680
Speaker 15: How you doing?

2193
02:03:41,720 --> 02:03:43,120
Speaker 2: Man? I'm all right. Thanks.

2194
02:03:44,200 --> 02:03:45,960
Speaker 15: Hey, I'm not sure if he touched on this and

2195
02:03:46,080 --> 02:03:47,880
Speaker 15: earlier in the show, I couldn't turn it on until

2196
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:50,960
Speaker 15: about two o'clock. Did you hear the news about BUCkies?

2197
02:03:51,760 --> 02:03:54,640
Speaker 2: I did hear there's a buck He's coming now, and

2198
02:03:54,720 --> 02:03:57,440
Speaker 2: I didn't know. And this is Martin. I'm gonna I'm

2199
02:03:57,440 --> 02:03:59,440
Speaker 2: not gonna lie to you. I'm a little I'm very

2200
02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:03,320
Speaker 2: torn on this now. This is it's just south of Indianapolis, right.

2201
02:04:05,120 --> 02:04:08,600
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, I live in Greenwood and it's at Worstville

2202
02:04:08,720 --> 02:04:11,680
Speaker 15: Road and sixty fives Greenwood Whiteland are.

2203
02:04:11,880 --> 02:04:15,960
Speaker 2: So you've been to BUCkies before, obviously, right, Yes, Okay,

2204
02:04:16,360 --> 02:04:19,000
Speaker 2: BUCkies to me and I love it. You've heard me

2205
02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:21,760
Speaker 2: talking about BUCkies till the cows come home. My only

2206
02:04:21,800 --> 02:04:25,120
Speaker 2: thing is this, I worry that BUCkies is eventually going

2207
02:04:25,200 --> 02:04:28,120
Speaker 2: to get cocky and it's going to put itself somewhere

2208
02:04:28,120 --> 02:04:31,080
Speaker 2: along I sixty nine, which would be immediately in the

2209
02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:33,400
Speaker 2: way of the quarry gas and gulp and the quarry

2210
02:04:33,480 --> 02:04:35,440
Speaker 2: gas and gulp if you're not familiar with it, between

2211
02:04:35,480 --> 02:04:39,520
Speaker 2: Bedford and Evansville on the Redneck Autubah as JB calls it,

2212
02:04:40,040 --> 02:04:42,920
Speaker 2: not a lot of gas stops, and the Quarry Gas

2213
02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:46,880
Speaker 2: and Gulp is going to have clean bathrooms, gas combos,

2214
02:04:46,880 --> 02:04:48,880
Speaker 2: fountain drinks and dip. That's it. That's all we're going

2215
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:51,760
Speaker 2: to sell. That's everything you need, right And the Querry

2216
02:04:51,800 --> 02:04:54,720
Speaker 2: Gas and Gulp, I think is going to be hit

2217
02:04:54,760 --> 02:04:56,720
Speaker 2: a little bit by the BUCkies that came here. Now

2218
02:04:56,720 --> 02:04:58,880
Speaker 2: here's the thing about BUCkies, and what I'm about to

2219
02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:02,920
Speaker 2: say is blasphemous, even blasphemous to the j query of

2220
02:05:03,320 --> 02:05:09,520
Speaker 2: the recent past. I do love it. I BUCkies is

2221
02:05:09,520 --> 02:05:11,640
Speaker 2: one of those things though it's a little bit like

2222
02:05:11,760 --> 02:05:14,720
Speaker 2: eggnauger whiskey. You love it, and then all of a sudden,

2223
02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:16,440
Speaker 2: once you realize you've had too much of it, you're like,

2224
02:05:16,640 --> 02:05:19,280
Speaker 2: I'm done and that's it. And then like you get

2225
02:05:19,480 --> 02:05:22,160
Speaker 2: and BUCkies. While it's great, then you realize you're like,

2226
02:05:22,160 --> 02:05:24,760
Speaker 2: wait a minute, this is basically like every quick stop

2227
02:05:24,760 --> 02:05:26,600
Speaker 2: that I've been to, except for it's on steroids and

2228
02:05:26,600 --> 02:05:28,920
Speaker 2: they put their own label on stuff. Like you buy

2229
02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:31,000
Speaker 2: something and you're like, I'm pretty sure these are Pringles,

2230
02:05:31,360 --> 02:05:33,560
Speaker 2: but it has the Bucky logo on it. Now they

2231
02:05:33,560 --> 02:05:36,040
Speaker 2: make their own brisket, They got rattlesnake jerky, they got

2232
02:05:36,080 --> 02:05:38,760
Speaker 2: homemade fudge, they got belchi can buy for eighty five bucks,

2233
02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:42,800
Speaker 2: they got jeans, they got you know, pajamas, all of it,

2234
02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:45,520
Speaker 2: and all of it is super fun and super cool.

2235
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:49,760
Speaker 2: And the bathrooms are immaculate, and absolutely the bathrooms are

2236
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:51,640
Speaker 2: so good that there might be times that I drive

2237
02:05:51,720 --> 02:05:53,800
Speaker 2: from my house down to BUCkies just to use the bathroom.

2238
02:05:53,800 --> 02:05:56,120
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie about it, not gonna lie about it.

2239
02:05:56,360 --> 02:05:59,000
Speaker 2: But it also gets to the point where you're like,

2240
02:05:59,040 --> 02:06:01,160
Speaker 2: wait a minute, on the road, I'm on a road trip.

2241
02:06:01,200 --> 02:06:03,160
Speaker 2: I just need to stop, use the bathroom, get gas,

2242
02:06:03,200 --> 02:06:06,080
Speaker 2: and go. And the gas is not any less expensive.

2243
02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:09,720
Speaker 2: It's the same prices everywhere else, despite the fact they

2244
02:06:09,720 --> 02:06:12,680
Speaker 2: have four hundred and sixty two pumps. But uh yeah,

2245
02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:15,400
Speaker 2: it is cool. People will enjoy it. It is fun,

2246
02:06:15,720 --> 02:06:17,200
Speaker 2: and it's one of those things that you go three

2247
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:19,200
Speaker 2: or four times and then after that you're kind of like,

2248
02:06:19,240 --> 02:06:20,800
Speaker 2: you know what, Like it's it's a little bit too

2249
02:06:20,880 --> 02:06:23,000
Speaker 2: much of a time draw on my trip, But it

2250
02:06:23,080 --> 02:06:25,880
Speaker 2: is cool, and it's coming to Indiana. And I do

2251
02:06:25,960 --> 02:06:28,680
Speaker 2: wonder how much the novelty then wears off for people

2252
02:06:28,680 --> 02:06:30,640
Speaker 2: when it's right there in your backyard. Remember when Krispy

2253
02:06:30,680 --> 02:06:33,160
Speaker 2: Kreme first came here. Remember when Jack in the Box

2254
02:06:33,160 --> 02:06:36,800
Speaker 2: first came here, the line was wrapped like around the building.

2255
02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:38,440
Speaker 2: And then after a while people are like, yeah, whatever,

2256
02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:41,080
Speaker 2: they got them all over the place, right. It's very

2257
02:06:41,080 --> 02:06:43,960
Speaker 2: similar to Raisin Canes too. Yeah, you showed up. That's

2258
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:46,000
Speaker 2: what I'm thinking is gonna happen to you know what

2259
02:06:46,040 --> 02:06:49,080
Speaker 2: I mean, Like when it first hit. I mean, look,

2260
02:06:49,160 --> 02:06:51,560
Speaker 2: Krispy Kreme, man, when they first hit, it was like

2261
02:06:51,760 --> 02:06:54,520
Speaker 2: lines wrapped around for blocks. And then after like six months,

2262
02:06:54,560 --> 02:06:56,640
Speaker 2: people like, yeah, okay, and I love Krispy Kremes. I'm

2263
02:06:56,680 --> 02:06:59,320
Speaker 2: talking about the free standing ones. Same as Jack in

2264
02:06:59,360 --> 02:07:02,520
Speaker 2: the Box. We'll come back, find out what Jav's got cooking.

2265
02:07:02,560 --> 02:07:03,160
Speaker 2: We'll do next.

2266
02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:10,040
Speaker 7: Query in company on ninety three five and one oh

2267
02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:11,320
Speaker 7: seven five the van.

2268
02:07:13,600 --> 02:07:17,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody noticed this or caught onto this,

2269
02:07:18,560 --> 02:07:22,880
Speaker 2: but I was coming in today and of course, I

2270
02:07:22,920 --> 02:07:24,920
Speaker 2: you know, had to knock the snow off my boots

2271
02:07:24,920 --> 02:07:27,360
Speaker 2: while I was walking into the building, and then doing so,

2272
02:07:27,440 --> 02:07:29,640
Speaker 2: I almost slipped and looked down and realized that there

2273
02:07:29,680 --> 02:07:32,760
Speaker 2: was a little tent and of sleeping bag in the

2274
02:07:32,800 --> 02:07:35,640
Speaker 2: horrdor of the building, and it dawned on me. That's

2275
02:07:35,640 --> 02:07:38,200
Speaker 2: where jamb spent Saturday night because he was doing the

2276
02:07:38,280 --> 02:07:40,000
Speaker 2: J and V takeover before he had to do the

2277
02:07:40,040 --> 02:07:42,040
Speaker 2: pregame show and had about a two hour window to

2278
02:07:42,080 --> 02:07:43,560
Speaker 2: do so and just said, oh, I'll just stay here.

2279
02:07:43,960 --> 02:07:45,320
Speaker 1: Sweet weekend I had.

2280
02:07:45,440 --> 02:07:48,480
Speaker 11: He want to trade went to the nobles of Old Boom,

2281
02:07:48,560 --> 02:07:48,880
Speaker 11: didn't you?

2282
02:07:49,200 --> 02:07:51,120
Speaker 2: I did. And here's the thing. I went to the

2283
02:07:51,200 --> 02:07:56,760
Speaker 2: Boom game on Saturday. Beautiful, beautiful facility. It looks just

2284
02:07:56,800 --> 02:07:59,600
Speaker 2: like the Fisher's event center. Kyle Guy looked really good

2285
02:07:59,600 --> 02:08:01,960
Speaker 2: for the Boom they did. I'll tell you the price.

2286
02:08:02,440 --> 02:08:05,440
Speaker 2: I think the tickets I saw were sixteen seventy five. Yeah,

2287
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:08,960
Speaker 2: not a bad seat in the house, a beautiful facility.

2288
02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:11,880
Speaker 2: The only thing I would say, if you are going

2289
02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:13,280
Speaker 2: to go to the Boom game, and I saw Tony

2290
02:08:13,320 --> 02:08:16,480
Speaker 2: East mention this as well, give yourself plenty of time

2291
02:08:16,600 --> 02:08:20,280
Speaker 2: because where they built that arena, John, it's basically one

2292
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:22,760
Speaker 2: lane road going in with a roundabout and then one

2293
02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:25,440
Speaker 2: parking garage, so it backed up a lot. I mean,

2294
02:08:25,480 --> 02:08:27,160
Speaker 2: we gave ourselves time. We got in there in time,

2295
02:08:27,400 --> 02:08:29,880
Speaker 2: but it was cool. It was a nice facility, nice venue,

2296
02:08:29,880 --> 02:08:32,560
Speaker 2: and we had a Good Time, Fisher's Event Center. It's

2297
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:36,400
Speaker 2: it's basically that city. Yes, it's very similar. Now November thirtieth,

2298
02:08:37,080 --> 02:08:39,880
Speaker 2: they're playing the Wisconsin I think it's the Herd and

2299
02:08:40,040 --> 02:08:43,600
Speaker 2: Victor Oladipo and the G League playing for Wisconsin. So

2300
02:08:43,640 --> 02:08:46,240
Speaker 2: he's going to be back November thirtieth,