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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. So the judge says, no, a rejection

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Speaker 1: of unsealing the Epstein grand jury transcripts. Can we can

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Speaker 1: we at least find out why that is Tony Katz,

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today, Good to be with you. Eight three

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Speaker 1: a part of the show. The requests, of course, from

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Speaker 1: federal investigations into Epstein in two thousand and five and

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Speaker 1: two thousand and seven. Justin's department has pending request to

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Speaker 1: unsealed transcripts in Manhattan Federal Court related to a later

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Speaker 1: indictment brought against Epstein. And of course the woman in

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Speaker 1: jail now Julane Maxwell. She was the one who procured

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Speaker 1: the underage girls. That's what she did. That's who she is.

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Speaker 1: I have no issue, based on what I know of

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Speaker 1: got more information to give. I don't know what she's

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Speaker 1: trying to do. The judge in I think it was

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Speaker 1: a Florida The US District Judge Robin Rosenberg found that

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Speaker 1: the Justice Apartment request did not fall into any of

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Speaker 1: the exceptions to rules requiring grand jury material be kept secret.

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Speaker 1: So does that mean it's a technicality? And if the

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Speaker 1: Justice Apartment comes back at this, they will get the

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Speaker 1: ability to unseal things. And we can ask the question,

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Speaker 1: how did we get to this place regarding Jeffrey Epstein,

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Speaker 1: or we got to this place because we didn't release

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Speaker 1: materials fast enough because Pam Bondi screwed around with the

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Speaker 1: releasing materials and the President decided to say, why do

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Speaker 1: you all care about this? As if everybody was going

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Speaker 1: to fall in line, I'm saying they did this. Now

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Speaker 1: the left in the media, well, dear lord, this is

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Speaker 1: they like, ooh, an opportunity. I don't think they understand

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Speaker 1: how poorly this this plays. And one of the things

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Speaker 1: that is truly poorly played is the people who think

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Speaker 1: that this is going to somehow drive a wedge into Magaville.

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Speaker 1: That is absolutely not happening. No One, and I mean

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Speaker 1: absolutely no one is leaving Trump World or Magaville over

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. No one. This was CNN's John King.

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Speaker 2: This would be less of an issue for the president

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Speaker 2: if you know This has actually.

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Speaker 1: Split MAGA in many ways. For in some ways, it's

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Speaker 1: the first real example we've seen of that.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you've seen the sort of influencer described

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Speaker 3: influencers salon here basically in Washington that's completely spun up

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Speaker 3: about it. The surveys I see of regular voters say

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Speaker 3: that they're a whole lot more worried about can they

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Speaker 1: I think that the.

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Speaker 3: President's right to try to free focus attention on that

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Speaker 3: because I think voters do care about it more. But

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Speaker 3: you're correct that the talk radio influencers, the clickbaite influencers,

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Speaker 3: those people, they think this.

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Speaker 1: Is right for profits.

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Speaker 4: I just reached out to a whole bunch of our

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Speaker 4: Trump voters from all over the Map project, and you're right, Actually,

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Speaker 4: you're right. None of them said they're turning on the president,

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Speaker 4: and they all say costs the economy are way more

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Speaker 4: important to them. But they also say this smells. They

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Speaker 4: also say this smells, and they want to know why.

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Speaker 1: Correct, that's the whole point. How in the world did

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump miss that this is about who is abusing children.

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Speaker 1: Let's say it again. Let's say for the people in

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Speaker 1: need to know who was involved, and those sons of

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Speaker 1: I don't care who they're connected to. You abuse children, jail,

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Speaker 1: the New York Times. Jeffrey Epstein was a sex offender,

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Speaker 1: him anyway. In twenty ten, Chelsea Handler and George Stephanopolis

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Speaker 1: That's the difference between us and them. Kids were abused,

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Speaker 1: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: attack them for ten. Months he just do you just

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Speaker 1: cbs you're so. Terrible everybody else is. Terrible they're. Great

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Speaker 1: give the money. BACK i will put my money where

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Speaker 1: any opportunity to keep punching at. You that's. Insane equally as,

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Speaker 1: continue or. NOT i, mean very, HONESTLY i don't know

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Speaker 1: KNOW i do not own the. NETWORK i don't. Know

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Speaker 1: fired who didn't deserve. It there're been firings that have gone, south,

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Speaker 1: exactly the reason he Killed Late, night him and all

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Speaker 1: insidious dirty tricks In american political. History The clinton campaign

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Speaker 1: Ideas there are people who just simply, broke Like David,

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Speaker 1: are All trump all the. Time and if you are not,

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Speaker 1: that the issue here is, not, oh look What Hillary clinton.

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Speaker 1: zeleni Chief National affairs correspondent FOR. Cnn Tulsi garbard was

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Speaker 1: It, frankly, YEAH i mean we shouldn't spend more time

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Speaker 1: have to keep talking about. Slavery it was more than

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Speaker 1: many more things will we see From, Obama Brennan clapp

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Speaker 1: what kind of people are? These? Well what about what

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Speaker 1: About Donald? Trump they they you, know look at all

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Speaker 1: everything he's. Said and then of course engage the lie

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Speaker 1: that was a civil trial With Adrian, carroll not a criminal.

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Speaker 1: AND i think there's plenty about his personality that you cannot.

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Speaker 1: it doesn't allow anyone the ability to look at what it. Is, Obama, Brennan, Komy,

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Speaker 1: Following trump's stunning victory Rights National, Review obama directed as

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Speaker 1: information they manipulated. Information they spiked an earlier Presidential Daily

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Speaker 1: helps explain why he is back in The White house

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Speaker 1: concepts of, retribution And President trump has on repeated occasions

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Speaker 1: turns multiple, opportunities he has been opposed to. Retribution to

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Speaker 1: of retribution that is necessary to ensure this doesn't happen.

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Speaker 1: Again this can't be, allowed and you cannot allow people

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Speaker 1: It it's okay to. Disagree it's like the realization that

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Speaker 1: people like myself and maybe like you want The epstein files,

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Speaker 1: release and yet there is zero evidence That magavilla is

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Speaker 1: we should investigate and where necessary and where, appropriate, prosecute

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Speaker 1: because What, Obama, Comy, Clapper, brennan And clinton did was

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Speaker 1: be allowed in THE. Us I'm Tony.

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Speaker 6: Budget, listen they did their reconciliation. Thing they stripped healthcare

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Speaker 6: you want our votes this, fall then you have to

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Speaker 1: Authoritarianism so what are you talking? About and the answer

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