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Speaker 1: And Grand Rising family, and thanks for starting your Thursday

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Speaker 1: morning with us again. Later, the master Teacher, Ashra Quasi

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Speaker 1: will take over our classroom. Now, Brother Quasi will report

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Speaker 1: on his recent trip to Ethiopia's Omo Valley and also

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Speaker 1: the African origins of freemasonry. Before Brother Quasi, we'll introduce

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Speaker 1: you to a motivational speaker who goes by the monica

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Speaker 1: of the Prison Doctor and he somehow his master changed

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Speaker 1: the lives of many of our young people. But to

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Speaker 1: get us started, momentarily, we're going to speak with Detroit

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Speaker 1: based historian Michael Emotep. But first let's get Kevin opening

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Speaker 1: these classroom doors. Grand Rising, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: Grand Rising, indeed, Girl Nelson, my man, my man, Today

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Speaker 2: is the twenty sixth of February. Where does the time go?

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Speaker 3: And how you feeling?

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm still learning, man, I'm still learning.

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Speaker 2: Well that's quite a position to be, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? Consistent or non existent. So you're really consistent

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Speaker 2: with that and that makes you the leader that you are.

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Speaker 1: I just heard a beat.

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Speaker 3: Was that you?

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Speaker 1: Was that me? No? That wasn't me. Oh okay, I

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Speaker 1: must have been here. I didn't hear it. It's been

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Speaker 1: an interesting morning so far. Its right, right, all right?

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Speaker 2: So just to start off, though, Hillary Clinton is going

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Speaker 2: to be deposed today about the Epstein situation. So once

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Speaker 2: again Hillary is answering for actions that her husband may

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Speaker 2: or may not have committed. What do you think about that?

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Speaker 1: I know they'll talk about stand by your man and

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Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff, but nice song. I think

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Speaker 1: it's just going to be closed, Kevin, Yeah, because she's

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Speaker 1: done it before. But is this going to be closed Kevin?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: Or she gonna be like if it was going to

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Speaker 1: re open, we would have known about it.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: According to the New York Times, the former first Lady

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Speaker 2: senator and Secretary of State had no dealings herself with Epstein.

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Speaker 2: But it's once again under pressure to answer. And let's see.

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Speaker 2: Mister Clinton, a young governor running for president, did most

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Speaker 2: of the talking in the now famous sixty minutes interview,

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Speaker 2: but it was missus Clinton's feisty, defensive response stand by

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Speaker 2: your man, that was credited with saving her husband's campaign

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Speaker 2: and his career. And so she said, I'm not sitting

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Speaker 2: here some woman standing by you man like Tammy one,

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Speaker 2: it said, And I'm trying to see if she you know.

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Speaker 1: What I remember from that interview, know, Kevin, No, I

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Speaker 1: remember from that in Good the light the lighting for

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Speaker 1: statted her away because lighting came down. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you recall that that interview.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I just remember, you know, hearing about it.

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Speaker 2: I didn't really actually watch it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I tell you so. Bill Clinton will be

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Speaker 2: deposed tomorrow. We will see how that shakes out. But meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: and I'm trying to put all of the headlines together. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: the president has been some of the information about his

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Speaker 2: inclusion in Epstein has been removed. Did you hear anything

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Speaker 2: about that?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I heard. They've been retacted by the Justice Department.

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Speaker 1: It took them out or retacted them because they nowhere

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Speaker 1: to be found. If you look at the files are

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Speaker 1: available now, it's name doesn't appear. But they've got other

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Speaker 1: folks are using AI and stuff working trying to get

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Speaker 1: the original files, trying to move the retaction so we'll

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Speaker 1: know exactly what his role was with Epstein.

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Speaker 2: Well, it says that the Department of Justice with hell

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Speaker 2: and prevented the release of the documents that contained allegations

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Speaker 2: of sexual assault of a minor by US President Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: and the probe was subsequently backed up by an independent

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Speaker 2: CNN review found that among them with health files were

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Speaker 2: several interviews with the woman who said that Trump had

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Speaker 2: sexually assaulted her decades ago. The three missing interviews are

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Speaker 2: among more than fifty pages of FBI witness interviews that

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Speaker 1: That, you know, let me just throw this in here, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: what people are saying. What are you hiding? What have

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Speaker 1: make be the judge, release everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because after all, do people actually read, you know,

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Speaker 2: Then it would be if it was, well, here you go,

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Speaker 2: you know, buy you a copy today, don't you think

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Speaker 2: you're right?

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Speaker 1: Right? So, but you know you have to read the

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Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. But no let me just say

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Speaker 1: this real quick, because what you thought about the disappearance

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Speaker 1: You've got to read some of the European papers to

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Speaker 1: get the full because they're not scared like the US papers.

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Speaker 1: I reporting what's going on Epstein files. They're throwing it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And just to for the sake of time, I

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Speaker 2: wanted to wrap up with my black history figure for

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Speaker 2: it today, and I thought we'd talk about Dorothy Height.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows her and she was born in Richmond, Virginia

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Speaker 2: March nineteen twelve and March twenty fourth to be exact,

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Speaker 2: and her family later moved to rank in Pennsylvania, where

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Speaker 2: she excelled as a student. Eventually she received a scholarship

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Speaker 2: to attend college. In nineteen twenty nine, she was admitted

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Speaker 2: the bachelor's in education and the master's in psychology. Her

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Speaker 2: she was regularly called to give advice on political issues.

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Speaker 2: Eleanor Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, Lyndon Johnson, they all sought her counsel.

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Speaker 2: And so that's a real quick rap up. Let's call

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Speaker 2: it rapid fire radio about the late great Dorothy.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I remember about her, though, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: before you run the fact that she spoke out about

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Speaker 1: this gangster rap music, if you recall, and she got

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Speaker 1: supported her. We wouldn't have this nonsense, some of this nonsense.

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Speaker 1: Some of the music is good, but not all of it,

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Speaker 1: the trashy gang rap music that's out there.

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Speaker 2: Oh so she foresaw, you're saying, she foresaw the Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And then she also said, if the time is not ripe,

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Speaker 2: about Dorothy, heink. And she came through here a few

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Speaker 2: Carlin twenty sixth of February. Your guests that standing by,

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Speaker 2: thank you have a great day.

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Speaker 1: Alrighty and I guess that happens to be a historian

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Speaker 1: based in Detroit. Michael emotap grand rising brother, Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the program.

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Speaker 4: Hey brother, Carl, how you doing today? And Kevin, how's

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Speaker 4: everything going? Interesting conversation.

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Speaker 1: About Dorothy. You're married, donth I'm.

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Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, Dorothy, heyde Yeah, yeah, I remember Dorothy Height.

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Speaker 4: I remember the Council of Negro Women member correctly, but

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Speaker 4: I remember the I remember see the Lords Tucker as

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Speaker 4: well in the fight against gangster rap. And yeah, if

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Speaker 4: a lot of people had paid attention back in the

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Speaker 4: nineteen nineties when that fight took place, we wouldn't be

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Speaker 4: where we are today. And even when I was in

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Speaker 4: college at Wayne State University is an undergrad, I was

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Speaker 4: speaking out against negative corporate controlled hip hop in nineteen

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at where this was going. And if you

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Speaker 4: so back then, you know we had ninety five, ninety six,

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Speaker 4: dominant female rappers then, well in that genre, I should

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Speaker 4: say the dominant in that genre because because we had

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Speaker 4: a shift taking place. If you go and listen to

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Speaker 4: Sukiyana sexy Red, their lyrics back then sound like nursery

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Speaker 4: rhymes compared to what's out today, and there's less of

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Speaker 4: a push back.

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Speaker 1: Well thought, right there, Michael, that's interesting that you just

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Speaker 1: said that. Now just hold on, So where do you

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Speaker 1: think it's going? Can it get any lower?

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Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, yeah, it's gotten progressively worse, UH sexy Red,

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Speaker 4: it has has gone farther, has gone farther, and it's

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Speaker 4: worse than Nicki Minaj. You know, Nicki Minaj has has

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Speaker 4: our own issues and has largely turned on the African

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Speaker 4: American community siding with Donald Trump. But if you look,

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Speaker 4: if you look at the progression and the degeneration of

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Speaker 4: let's look at like this, right. I was one who

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Speaker 4: came out strongly against the UH song WP by Cardi

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Speaker 4: B and Meganis Stallion. Okay, because of its hyper sexualized

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Speaker 4: lyrics and because of the video. Now, for those that

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Speaker 4: don't know me, I've been I've been speaking out against

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Speaker 4: negative corporate control hip hop for years, whether it's men

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Speaker 4: it sampled the song by Frank Ski I think it

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Speaker 4: was there's some hs in this house, right. It repeats

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Speaker 4: that phrase uh about seventy nine times.

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Speaker 4: To me, that's called programming. Okay, that's called programming. And

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Speaker 4: then all of the is very hyper sexualized lyrics. And

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Speaker 4: then all of the women in the video were black

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Speaker 4: women except for Kylie Jenner, Okay. And when you repeat

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Speaker 4: that's programming, all right, And all the women in the

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Speaker 4: video of black or of African descent. So what are

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Speaker 4: you really saying? Now, this is financed by Atlantic Records,

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Speaker 4: This is financed by white corporation.

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Speaker 3: They will never they will never have a top.

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Speaker 4: White female artist put out hyper sexualized lyrics like that

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Speaker 4: and that type of imagery. Wow, because they know whatever

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Speaker 4: do it because that's how they think of us. They

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Speaker 4: think of that. And there's a deep history of hypersexualized

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Speaker 4: one of the justifications for raping black women, for sexually

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Speaker 4: misusing black people, for breeding black people. Discontinued after slavery ended.

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Speaker 4: Keep in mind, during slavery, they weren't just raping black

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Speaker 4: women on the plantations. They were also selling them into prostitution.

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Speaker 4: They were also sex slave farms in the United States

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Speaker 4: where they had African Americans, especially women on those farms. Okay,

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Speaker 4: they weren't just studying African American men, but they were

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Speaker 4: also selling Black women as wet nurses. And a wet

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Speaker 4: nurse is a black woman who breastfeeds the white masters

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Speaker 4: white's babies. Right, Well, if that black woman was not pregnant,

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Speaker 4: is she was not lactating, then as the book they

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Speaker 4: were her property documents that talks about how eighteen forty

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Speaker 4: eighteen fifty, approximately forty percent of slave owners in this country.

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Speaker 3: With white women.

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Speaker 4: Sure? So, ago we heard the statistic seventies percent of

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Speaker 4: Yes, they will have some of those elements in their

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Speaker 4: So if you want to destroy a nation, you do

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Speaker 3: Okay, so we were fueled.

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Speaker 4: By conscious hip hop. We were wearing HBCU sweatshirts, we

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Speaker 2: Hey, brother, Michael, Michael lima hotel, Kevin Land here. I

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Speaker 4: Well, they're rating the music, but most of it has

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Speaker 4: Not to pick on them, but they reached the benefits

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Speaker 2: Okay, Sure, and that technology is only going to get

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Speaker 2: I guess x ray, I'm gonna keep it at that level.

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Speaker 3: What do you think.

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Speaker 4: Some of some of the lyrics may get worse now?

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Speaker 4: Is I think it may be getting to a point

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Speaker 4: They did shift the whole landscape, but you could still

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Speaker 2: That's because success, the success leaves a template. So they

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Speaker 4: What happens is you can only talk about your sexual

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Speaker 4: and because Rick Ross had a no I think it's

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Speaker 4: Rebox Rebok. Rick Ross had a h endorsement deal with Rebok.

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Speaker 4: If I mumber correctly, right around that time, white women

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Speaker 4: started having protests, had a flagship Rebox store in New

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Speaker 4: York protesting his contract. Well, Rebok, Rebok did not tell

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Speaker 4: the white women, if you don't like the music, changed

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Speaker 4: the channel. Rebok didn't tell them, well, he wasn't talking

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Speaker 4: about you, he was talking about those other women. Rebok

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Speaker 4: didn't say if you don't like the music, don't buy it.

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Speaker 4: Rebok canceled that contract with Rick Ross because they said

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Speaker 4: they don't want to be.

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Speaker 3: Associated with that.

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Speaker 7: I'm out in protest.

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Speaker 4: They tell us, oh, well, if you don't like the music,

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Speaker 4: don't listen to it, don't buy it. Oh it's popular.

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Speaker 4: They give us all these excuses. When white women protested, right,

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Speaker 4: they are a totally different response, because you only protect

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Speaker 4: what you respect. That's why so that these people don't

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Speaker 4: respect us, which is why we have to engage in

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Speaker 4: targeted sustained economic with draw strategy. Is doctor King told

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Speaker 4: us April third, nineteen sixty eight, when he said redistribute

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Speaker 4: the pain in his speech I've been to the market

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Speaker 4: top when he talked about economic withdrawal strategies.

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Speaker 1: Well, then let me ill you over here twenty eight

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Speaker 1: minutes away from the top of Fellas. Okay, Michael, is

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Speaker 1: there an equivalency in the white community that does these

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Speaker 1: kind of degrading songs about people? Do you know of?

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Speaker 4: Not on not that I know of, on a law

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Speaker 4: that's hugely popular. Okay, I mean you had Eminem, But

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Speaker 4: even then, his lyrics were not as sexually explicit as

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Speaker 4: a lot of the African American artists, especially African American

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Speaker 4: female artists. And we have to understand that. I don't

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Speaker 4: want people to misunderstand and think I'm attacking the artists.

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 4: The artists are being manipulated and being used as a

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Speaker 4: tool against us by white corporations. We have to we

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Speaker 4: have to understand who was you know what's behind this?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 4: And you have to understand history. The dehumanization of African

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Speaker 4: people has always been entertainment for this country. We can

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Speaker 4: go back to nineteen sixteen when a man named Harry C.

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Speaker 4: Brown had a record on Columbia Records called N Word

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Speaker 4: Level Watermelon ha ha ha, and this became This was

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Speaker 4: a popular song at the time. This was a very

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Speaker 4: popular song and it was talking about the stereotype of

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Speaker 4: African Americans love and watermelon.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: This was on Columbia Records. The song is on YouTube.

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Speaker 4: I've gone to YouTube and listen to the song.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 4: So this was entertainment that comes out of the minstrel

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Speaker 4: shows that start in the US about eighteen twenty eighteen

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Speaker 4: twenty nine by Thomas Dartmouth Rice TV Rice who's known

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Speaker 4: as the father of minstrel seat and he's the one

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Speaker 4: who created the Jim Crow character. Okay, and he had

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Speaker 4: the song turner it comes. It came from the the

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Speaker 4: poem or the song turnaround, jump Around. I jump, jump

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Speaker 4: turn around, jump around, I jump. Just so every time

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Speaker 4: I turn around, I jump. Jim Crow and he puts

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Speaker 4: on tatered torn clothing, adopts a Southern dialect, puts on

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Speaker 4: black space to imitate and dehumanize enslaved African people. Well,

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Speaker 4: the minstrel shows become one of the most popular forms

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Speaker 4: of entertainment in the country. These white men performed minstrel

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Speaker 4: show companies. And they also have minstrol show companies in

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Speaker 4: Europe that toured throughout Europe. Okay, so we have to understand.

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Speaker 4: You know, doctor Francis cres Wilson, who you talked about,

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Speaker 4: and you knew Carl and Carl, you and I we

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Speaker 4: were both after Memorial Service in twenty sixteen, if member

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Speaker 4: correctly in Washington, DC, and Tony Browner was the MC

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Speaker 4: of the Memorial Service. Right, I interviewed the three times

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Speaker 4: in an African History Network show. Doctor Francis pres Wilson

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Speaker 4: taught us to understand white supremacy erasist them as a system.

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Speaker 4: This as nearly fuller taught us to understand it, but

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Speaker 4: she took it a step farther than nearly full of

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Speaker 4: because hers a psychiatrist. She said she always wanted to

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Speaker 4: know why she asked. She said, I would ask nearly

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Speaker 4: full of why, okay, And she taught us to understand

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Speaker 4: racism as it manifested stuff throughout the nine areas of

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Speaker 4: human activity, economics, education, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, specs,

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Speaker 4: and war for the purpose of preserving genetic white for

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Speaker 4: viable on the planet. That's less than ten percent European. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so when we see this is why you have the

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Speaker 4: focus on white birth rates right now.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is why this.

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Speaker 4: Is, this is why you have to focus with Donald Trump,

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Speaker 4: Eli muff jd vance on white birth rates. This is

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Speaker 4: why you have them importing white Africantis from South Africa

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Speaker 4: saying they're the victims of the genocide. Okay, because they

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Speaker 4: see their population, their percentage population declining in this country.

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Speaker 4: And not all white people fear this, but it's enough

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Speaker 4: of them, is seventy plus million who voted for Trump.

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Speaker 4: They fear what happens when the year twenty forty three

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Speaker 4: comes and, as democraphers tell us, white people will no

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Speaker 4: longer be a majority population in this country, and they

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Speaker 4: fear the browning of America. They feared that they were

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Speaker 4: that African Americans and Latinos would be the majority population

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Speaker 4: in this country. And that was a that was the

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Speaker 4: driving force for them to vote for Donald Trump in

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Speaker 4: twenty seventeen, as the analysis from the Atlantic and twenty

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Speaker 4: seventeen told us, they said the driving force was cultural

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Speaker 4: anxiety for non educated, non college educated white voters who

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Speaker 4: voted for Trump. Cultural anxiety, the fear of the browning

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Speaker 4: of America. And I would argue that was the same

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Speaker 4: driving force for them to vote for Trump in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty fourth, the twenty twenty four election for Trump voters

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Speaker 4: that voted for himps. That had nothing to do with

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Speaker 4: the price of grocery, That had nothing to do with inflation.

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Speaker 3: That had to do with.

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Speaker 4: The fact that the twenty twenty census that came out

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Speaker 4: in the April twenty twenty one said that the population

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Speaker 4: of white people in this country dropped the fifty seven percent,

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Speaker 4: and that was the first time since seventeen ninety that

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Speaker 4: the population of white people in this country dropped below

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Speaker 4: sixty percent. And so you put those two things together.

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Speaker 4: You look at the article.

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Speaker 1: From say well hold, I thought right there, Michael, and

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Speaker 1: thank you for connecting the dous hold of thought. Then

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Speaker 1: we got to check the news, and let me just

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Speaker 1: add this before we go to the news. I think

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Speaker 1: the greatest fear is what happened in South Africa. They're

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Speaker 1: afraid that we would do to them what they did

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Speaker 1: to us. That's what Mandela told me. He says, that's

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Speaker 1: the biggest fair of white folks. When we take control

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Speaker 1: and when we have the advantage but anyway, also mentioned

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Speaker 1: we got a step aside. Twenty two minutes away from

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Speaker 1: the top thing. We got to check the news, trafficking

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Speaker 1: weather out different cities. Family, you want to join this

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Speaker 1: conversation with Michael Mtap, reach out to us at eight

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Speaker 1: hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy six and

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Speaker 1: we'll take your phone calls after the news next and

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising family, thanks for waking up with us on

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Speaker 1: this Thursday morning. With our guest, the historian Michael m

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Speaker 1: o Tep we've taught our black history, African American history

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Speaker 1: or African history as we would call it these days,

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Speaker 1: and started on music. It wasn't mean to be this way.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes the answers his takeover and you know what happens

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Speaker 1: before we go back to Michael, let me just remind

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Speaker 1: you come up later this morning. We'll speak with the

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Speaker 1: master teacher himself, Brother Ashwa Kwasi will be in the house.

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Speaker 1: He's going to talk about this recent trip to Ethiopia's

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Speaker 1: Omo Valley and also the African origins of Freemasonry. Say

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Speaker 1: she's got a lot of people ask him to discuss that.

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Speaker 1: But before we speak with brother Quasi, the person calls himself,

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Speaker 1: the prison doctor. He's he's a more viational speaker, and

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Speaker 1: he's changed your lives to so many people. He's going

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Speaker 1: to be with us and tomorrow, of course it's Friday.

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Speaker 1: We're going to give you a chance to free your

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Speaker 1: mind and join us for our open Phone Friday program.

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Speaker 1: We start right here at six on ten ten WLB

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore and in the DMV here at the Washington

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Speaker 1: Metropolitan Era around fourteen fifteen WL. Hey, Mike, Jay's in

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Speaker 1: Detroit wants to join the conversation. He's online too, Grand Rising, Jay,

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Speaker 1: you're with Michael MT.

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Speaker 3: Okay, how you doing?

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Speaker 1: J I don't hear? All right, Let's go to line

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Speaker 1: three then, Doctor Hakeys from Baltimore, Doctor Hakeith, Oh Jason, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Jay speak up?

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Speaker 8: Okay, hey Grand Rising? Uh yeah, hey brother, how you doing? Uh?

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Speaker 3: I'm all right?

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Speaker 8: And been to some of your forms through the years

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Speaker 8: and everything, so yeah, I appreciate you and your network,

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Speaker 8: African History Network. Yeah, but uh, I wanted to first

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Speaker 8: of all, I wanted to defend Millie Jackson and some

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Speaker 8: of the because I stay here, I'm from him, right,

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Speaker 8: what some of those lyrics would be like PG compared

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Speaker 8: to the.

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Speaker 3: I agree, I agree it was.

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Speaker 8: It was like double and time days. I mean even

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Speaker 8: going back to Maul Rainey and people like that when

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Speaker 8: you talk about blues. But there's another aspect of the

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Speaker 8: technological influence on modern day music, especially when you're talking

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Speaker 8: about hip hop or or gangster rapp or whatever whatever

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Speaker 8: part of that genre would be the way the pro

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Speaker 8: the music is programmed. Most of that music are in

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Speaker 8: minor keys, which you know, elicit different emotions than you know,

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Speaker 8: the love songs and things of that nature. And also

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Speaker 8: doctor B also talks about the frequencies that those particular

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Speaker 8: music is you know, presented to the young folks with

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Speaker 8: the hypnotic effect and you know, the the rhythm, the

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Speaker 8: rhythm patterns that they use, you know, and being repetitive

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Speaker 8: and then play that over and over. Then you know

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Speaker 8: it elicits certain if it's negative. And Deletarius is gonna

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Speaker 8: you know, uh, influence the young people in that manner,

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Speaker 8: you know, along with the lyrics.

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Speaker 3: So I wanted to talk about Yeah, yeah, I'm about

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Speaker 3: to be. I've been to his lectures.

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Speaker 4: I interviewed him back in the day on the Afternus

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Speaker 4: Networkshelf and Yeah, he talks about that. There's been other

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Speaker 4: people that talk about the frequency of the music as well.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so you know, that's definitely and and it's incorporating

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Speaker 8: in all aspects of American society or really worldwide society.

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Speaker 8: As the Europeans looked at black folks. So I can

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Speaker 8: remember even in uh professional wrestling, Professional wrestling with Ventric

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Speaker 8: Man and his crew would always have the stereo tips

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Speaker 8: typical presentations of the different athletes. And they had this

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Speaker 8: one brother they called Kamala and he was supposed to

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Speaker 8: have been from Uganda and he was running around like in

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Speaker 8: a skirt and you know this type of thing.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I just wanted to write, Yeah, wrestling,

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Speaker 4: they did have some stereotypical images then now they had

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Speaker 4: they had some took images of white people as well,

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Speaker 4: but yeah, they there were there were fewer African Americans.

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Speaker 4: So when you had those stereotypical images like slick uh

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Speaker 4: uh manager and he was a borderline pimp.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 8: The copy you know, pimping ain't easy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when you had those those But like I said,

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Speaker 4: you know, the humanization of African people has always been

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Speaker 4: entertainment in this country.

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Speaker 8: That's correct, that's correct, and I agree wholeheartedly. So I

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Speaker 8: just wanted to throw that in, you know, and keep

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Speaker 8: doing the good work that.

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Speaker 3: Keep doing, brother, all right, thanks, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: All right, thanks, say twove away from the top of

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Speaker 1: Doctor Hockey's next He's calling from Baltimore Mikey's online three.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Hockey. You're on, Michael m o.

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Speaker 9: Tep Yes, sir, good money, grand rising brother, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 9: it's always good yeah, well pleasure, uh yeah, well further,

652
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 9: you know, it's just an I appreciate this conversation. And

653
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 9: you know one thing I always you know, revealed. I mean,

654
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 9: you know, we we we we underestimate how this music

655
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 9: has impacted our culture many many of us like and

656
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 9: I see it even today even amongst adults. And that's

657
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 9: what you know, real true, well rounded knowledge will get

658
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 9: you like you know, like doctor Welson and et cetera,

659
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 9: and some real conscious black protectors of culture like yourself.

660
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 9: But let me just give like some points, like even

661
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 9: in Baltimore, for instance, I recall I was at a

662
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 9: you know, a juvenile justice forum, you know where the

663
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 9: resources people are there for resources and and we're supposed

664
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Speaker 9: to be, you know, trying to keep these young people

665
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 9: out of prison right and and you know, stopped it

666
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 9: from going. Why is the DJ playing Snoop Doggs rolling

667
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 9: down the street? You know, smoking, you know what I'm saying,

668
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 9: sipping on? I mean why?

669
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Speaker 6: And I looked around and I didn't see no. I'm

670
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 6: I'm sitting there like is this real? And none of

671
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 6: the adults in the room, they didn't stop to look

672
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 6: at the DJ or like everybody. And I was like, wow,

673
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 6: this is this is deep programming that so called adults

674
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 6: who's supposed to be stopping young people. And that's what

675
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 6: I'm saying, they underestimating how you know this is all

676
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 6: some young people know. They know rap lyrics more than

677
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 6: they know you know anything, haven't read a book, but

678
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 6: they know every rap song. You see the children dancing

679
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 6: to all kinds of music. And let me just give

680
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 6: one example, and this is happening. I'll close with this.

681
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 6: And this is what really woke me up when I

682
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 6: was like in the navy. You know, I got a

683
00:39:55,560 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 6: chance to experience many different brothers from different area. So

684
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 6: let me just give one particular lyric that I was

685
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 6: just like, this is like sick and this was a

686
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 6: down self brother, but not to, you know, but so

687
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 6: the lyric and I didn't know who the rapper was.

688
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 6: I was just so that woke me up. He said,

689
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 6: pregnant vagina in the other word is the best you

690
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 6: can get f you know, I n g the female

691
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 6: dog while the baby shucked the full letter word. And

692
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 6: I was just out and I'm looking at this brother

693
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 6: like yo. I said something to him, and he got

694
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 6: like he was like a little offended that I said

695
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 6: something to him, like, yo, you're listening to this, And

696
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 6: I was just like, that's the most I've never heard

697
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 6: nothing so degenerate in my life. And this was some

698
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 6: down top And obviously I don't know who that group was.

699
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 6: I didn't find out to this day, but that was

700
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 6: the most degenerate lyric I ever heard, right, So thank you.

701
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Speaker 3: So that's called programming, all right? Thanks? Yeah, that's that's

702
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: called programming. Okay, And.

703
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 4: Very quickly, I need to give the name of this

704
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 4: article here because I referenced it earlier. Professor Stephanie E.

705
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 4: Jones Rogers, Atlanta Blackstar dot Com had an article researched

706
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 4: by black female professor reveals startling truth that white women

707
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 4: made up forty percent of slave owners and she looked

708
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 4: at since this data from eighteen fifty to eighteen sixty

709
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 4: and found this out.

710
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: Said.

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00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 4: This article is from May twenty fifth, twenty nineteen, History

712
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 4: dot com, which is the official website of the History Channel.

713
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 4: They also have an article about that called the Massive

714
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 4: Overlooked role of Female slave Owners. They cite Professor Stephanie E.

715
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 4: Jones Rogers work in this article from History dot com,

716
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 4: which is the official website of the History Channel. Yeah, brother,

717
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 4: but it's we used to have have a greater defense

718
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 4: mechanism and just for people to understand. The movie The

719
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 4: Birth of a Nation came out February eighth, nineteen fifteen, right,

720
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Speaker 4: and we had protests against that movie, okay, because it

721
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 4: showed the humanizing images of African Americans shot at out

722
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 4: of baths California, ego, out of California, Black newspaper William

723
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 4: Monroe Trotter. He led protests in Boston, Massachusetts. But in

724
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Speaker 4: nineteen o six, there was a play that was traveling

725
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 4: around the country called The Klansmen, and that play, The

726
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 4: Klansmen was based upon the novel The Klansmen, in which

727
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 4: later became the movie Birth of a Nation. We have

728
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 4: protests against the play. Okay, we had mass protests against

729
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 4: the play because African Americans we had a greater sense

730
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: to understand when we were under attacks. And the NAACP

731
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 4: led protests against against the movie The Birth of a Nation.

732
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Speaker 4: Right today, the NAACP. You know, a few years ago,

733
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Speaker 4: the NAACP gave Image Awards to the TV show Empire, then,

734
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Speaker 4: I think is one of one of the worst shows

735
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 4: on TV that showed neglative, stereotypical images of African Americans

736
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 4: involved in all type of criminality, promiscuity, murder, things like this,

737
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,720
Speaker 4: which is on the Fox TV network owned by Rupert Murdoch,

738
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Speaker 4: who also owns the Fox News channel, that dehumanizes African

739
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 4: Americans on a daily basis twenty four to seven. We

740
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 4: had a better understanding to know when we were under attack.

741
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 4: And if you look at uh. But we'll go ahead.

742
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna pull up this citation here while you go

743
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 4: to the next point for the next call us.

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00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: All right, I'll tell you why he hung up. So

745
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: let's go to Cliff in Connecticut while you pull up

746
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: that next port a point, Mike. Five minutes right from

747
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: the top of there, our family Michael and mL Temp

748
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: is I guess it's a historian. He's based in Detroit,

749
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: and Officer we start on music when we're talking about

750
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: black history, but when feared away and got into the

751
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: music issue. So Cliff and Connecticut Grand Rising, Cliffe and

752
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 1: Michael mtep.

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Speaker 10: Hey Grand Resident, brother Colin grand Rising to your guests,

754
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 10: I believe he is a couple one hundred correct, And

755
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 10: some of the callers too with their comments programming, and

756
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 10: if I can mention another guest on your show, brother

757
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 10: the card, with your permission, and would that be okay?

758
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 10: Professor Griffin ahead, program And for those individuals that don't

759
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 10: believe this is possible, man, this is absolutely true. So

760
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 10: you have a message and you repeat it over and

761
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 10: over and over again, and you use all sources of

762
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 10: media music, television, that's programming. And then also let me

763
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 10: add this into your guest, brother Michael Grimman from wrong.

764
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 10: If you accompany that with marijuana use or smoking Italy

765
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 10: and then drinking, that's more or less of a ritual,

766
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 10: if I'm not mistaken. And and then more importantly with

767
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 10: but more detrimental is the end word that we can

768
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 10: constantly use. And then when we go out and when

769
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 10: these brothers man go out and they do negative actions,

770
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 10: gang banging. They're using that everything that we just talked

771
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 10: about is part of this ritual and that causes destruction.

772
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 10: And we're doing this and those and as matter of fact,

773
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 10: I don't even mention the name and the after group.

774
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 10: Every can't these are which fair con was to say

775
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 10: that these are the Jews that own these so called

776
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 10: Jews that own these corporations in this industry. They do

777
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 10: this on purpose, and they do this man with with

778
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 10: the intent, knowing exactly what they're doing.

779
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 3: All right, we.

780
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: Got to stop it right that cliff, because we got

781
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: to check the trafficking waybout different seats. When we come back, Michael,

782
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: what's the endgame? Since you're all the established who's doing

783
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: it and why they're doing it, But what's the end game?

784
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: I'll let you tell us that when we get back,

785
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 1: because we see it all the time and we wonder

786
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: when is it gonna stop? How low can it go?

787
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: But what's there? What's we are they're trying to achieve

788
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: by doing this. I'll let you explain that to the family.

789
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: Three away from the top of our family. As I mentioned,

790
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: we got to check the traffic, and we in our

791
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: different cities. I guess this is Michael m o Temp.

792
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: He's a historian. He's based in Detroit. You want to

793
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: get in on a conversation with him, reach out to

794
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight

795
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Speaker 1: seventy six, and we take your phone calls as we

796
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: check the traffic. That's next and Grand Rising family, thanks

797
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: for starting your Thursday with us, and I guess the

798
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: story of Michael and MTEP from Detroit. Also, Michael, more

799
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: folks want to talk to you. Just lit up the

800
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: phone lines here with this discussion. But my question to you,

801
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: posed before we left for the traffic update, was what's

802
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: the end game? Why are they trying to achieve by

803
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: doing this? Sto us?

804
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 4: Okay, and let me to address that question. What's the

805
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 4: end game where they're trying to do to achieve by attacking.

806
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: Us like this?

807
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 4: Let me let me just get this quick citation here.

808
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 4: This comes from Before the may Flower by Laron Bennett, Junior,

809
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 4: sixth edition, and this is in the back what he

810
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 4: deals with landmarks and milestones in history. October twenty second,

811
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 4: nineteen oh six, three thousand Blacks demonstrated and rioted in

812
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 4: Philadelphia to protest a theatrical presentation of Thomas Dixon's The Klansmen.

813
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 4: That was a play, The Klansman, based upon the novel

814
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 4: called The Klansmen by the Reverend Thomas Dixon. And then

815
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 4: the movie The Birth of a Nation is based upon

816
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 4: that novel by Thomas Dixon. Okay, so we had protests

817
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 4: against the play as well as the movie. Okay, so

818
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 4: what's the endgame. Well, they know that they can't totally

819
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 4: destroy us. Okay, we've been here too long and we're

820
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 4: the first people on planet Earth. But if they can

821
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 4: mentally damage, psychologically damage a good portion of us and

822
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 4: we get hooked on drugs, we commit crimes, we end

823
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 4: up in prison. And then at the same time, you

824
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 4: have the attack on African American history. You have the

825
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 4: black erasure of African American history. When you attack a

826
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 4: people's history, you're attacking the people as well, because the

827
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 4: people are product of the history. Then we have an

828
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 4: attack on African American voting rights and civil rights.

829
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Speaker 6: Right.

830
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 4: So, if you can reduce people's ability to understand the past,

831
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 4: and if you can suppress the ability to vote in

832
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 4: the president, then you can control the policies of the future. Indefinitely,

833
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 4: all right, and this is.

834
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 3: The end game.

835
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 4: Like going back to a few minutes ago, there's a

836
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 4: fear of the year twenty forty three and white people

837
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 4: becoming a minority in this country. And some now all

838
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 4: white people don't fear this. Now, I don't want people

839
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 4: to misunderstanding and say I'm putting all white people in

840
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: the same bag.

841
00:48:59,520 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 3: No, I'm not.

842
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 4: There's a certain segment and most of them voted for

843
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 4: Donald Trump. Okay, Maga fears becoming a numerical minority, racial

844
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 4: minority in this country. Some white people fear, uh, will

845
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 4: African Americans, will Latinos do to them what they have

846
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 4: done to these other groups for centuries? Okay, but so yeah,

847
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 4: this this is it. And when we look at privatized

848
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 4: prison brother Carl and Kevin, these are corporate.

849
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 3: Uh, these these are.

850
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 4: Stocks traded on the Stock Exchange, cour Civic, Geo Group,

851
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 4: things of this nature. Right, So they benefit from having

852
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 4: high occupancy, they benefit from having high incarceration rates. This

853
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 4: is why Course, Geo Group and G four s the

854
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 4: three largest owner operators of privatized prisons. This is why

855
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 4: they supported Donald Trump. This is why they donated to

856
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 4: this campaign in twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, and twenty twenty

857
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 4: four because they were losing the privatized prisons were losing

858
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 4: money under the Obama administration because you had to decline

859
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 4: in crimes and decline in the incarceration rate. They were

860
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 4: losing money under the Biden Harris administration as well. Across

861
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Speaker 4: the country, we saw a decline in the mount of

862
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 4: crimes committed, declined in the incarceration rate. They seen a

863
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 4: boom under Trump and a lot of the detention centers

864
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Speaker 4: for migrants, okay, the documented migrants. A lot of those

865
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 4: detention centers are ran by these corporations that own privatized presidents,

866
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 4: so they have contracts with the federal government.

867
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 11: Okay to how I know that point right there?

868
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 1: All the money behind this right hold that point all right?

869
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: Then a bunch of folks want touch in. We got

870
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: the prison doctor on deck. He's up next, but Yolanda

871
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: and Maryland once joined the conversation. She's online too, Grand

872
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 1: rising a lot of y'all with a Michael m o tap.

873
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 12: Grand rides into the both of you. I'm so glad

874
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 12: that I have the opportunity to speak. There was something

875
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 12: that I started back when my kids were young. I'm

876
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 12: sixty two now, so they're like twenty seven as three

877
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 12: of them around the same age group, all like a

878
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 12: year apart. But what I did was when we got

879
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 12: in the car, we couldn't listen to anything negative, and

880
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 12: if the phones came on and they had negative stuffing

881
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 12: and they didn't tell me, we turned it straight to

882
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 12: the gospel station. And so a lot of parents can

883
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 12: take accountability of doing that.

884
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 5: With their kids.

885
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,439
Speaker 12: And everybody said, well, why are you doing that. They're

886
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 12: gonna hear it anyway, I said, but they're not going

887
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 12: to hear it from me. So that was the difference.

888
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 12: So I think that if we can start focused mind

889
00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 12: the groups not just there in say DC or New

890
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 12: Jersey or New York, but all over that has the

891
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 12: same missions, and sit down with these radio stations and

892
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 12: have a conversation with them about some of the taking

893
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 12: accountability for some of the music that they played at

894
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 12: our children here, some things they didn't let on the

895
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 12: radio or the TV back when I was younger, But

896
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 12: over the years they've got comfortable with it more relax thing.

897
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 12: So it's just as wild as out as out of control.

898
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, Yeah, can I respond to that.

899
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: Sure, go ahead, Mike.

900
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 3: Two quick things.

901
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 4: Number One, I encourage parents, and I've done this on

902
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 4: my lectures. Go to the website a z lyrics dot com,

903
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 4: the letter adeletter z lyrics dot com, all these popular songs.

904
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 4: You can pull up the actual lyrics to the songs

905
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 4: and read them. And parents should do this to understand

906
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 4: the messages that are in the music that are being

907
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 4: fed to their children, because like in the nineteen seventy

908
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 4: nineteen eighties, you know, when we had, like when I

909
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 4: was growing up, a lot of the music we listened to,

910
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 4: we listened to on the family stereo, so our parents

911
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 4: got to hear the music also. But today it goes

912
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 4: they can listen right on their smartphones, they can listen

913
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 4: to headphones, and they can bypass the protective nature of

914
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 4: the parent to be a filter for that information, so

915
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 4: it goes straight into the ears and minds of our

916
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 4: children without having to go through the parent.

917
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 3: Number one.

918
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 4: Number two, the conversation and the pressure has to be

919
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 4: put on the record companies as opposed to necessarily the

920
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 4: radio stations worked. I worked for three radio stations. I

921
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 4: worked for a music station. One of the most popular

922
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 4: stations radio stations here in Detroit, and they play they

923
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 4: play the hits. The radio stations play the hits, but

924
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 4: the record companies produce the music. The pressure has to

925
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 4: be put on. You have to cut it off as

926
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 4: a source. The pressure has to be put on the

927
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 4: record companies and a lot of us. One of the

928
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 4: ways to put pressure on the record companies is a

929
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 4: lot of us are invested in entertainment corporations.

930
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 3: Through our pension funds and.

931
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 4: Our four to one K dollars and don't know, so

932
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 4: we can divest where our pension fund dollars are invested.

933
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 4: This is something that happened in June of twenty seventeen

934
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 4: in New York where New York City employees divested forty

935
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 4: eight million dollars of their pension fund dollars from three

936
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 4: privatized prisons cor Civic GEO Group in G four s

937
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 4: because they found out that they were invested in privatized prisons.

938
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 4: A lot of African Americans, a lot of Americans in general,

939
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 4: are invested in privatized prisons and don't know it through

940
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 4: pension funds and for one K plans and not against

941
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 4: pension funds and for one K plans, but we can

942
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 4: get with our benefits manager to find out the different sectors,

943
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 4: the different industries are money is invested in. Oftentimes we

944
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 4: are unknowingly financing our own dehumanization. So as we learn

945
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 4: more information, your thoughts create feelings. Your feelings create actions,

946
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 4: actions and behaviors. Your actions and behaviors create results. As

947
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 4: we get more information, our behavior has to change to

948
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 4: follow that the new knowledge that we get. So there

949
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 4: are various ways we can fight.

950
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: Back and thank you for sharing that with us. Michael, listen,

951
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: we gotta let you go because if we know you're busy,

952
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: and we got the prison doctor on deck, and I

953
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: know he's going to talk about music as well, how

954
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: can folks reach you? Are you still working with Roland

955
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: on the weekend.

956
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I'm going to roll the Mornin Unfiltered every Friday

957
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 4: on this show, providing historical and political analysis. Have been

958
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 4: on this show five years and visit my website Africanhistorynetwork

959
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 4: dot com Africanhistorynetwork dot com, follow me on Facebook and

960
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 4: fan base at the African History Network, YouTube and Instagram

961
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 4: at Michael m Hotel imho EP have online classes starting

962
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 4: up this Sunday for PMS and standard time March first,

963
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 4: and African History Network show will be back on the

964
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 4: airwaves very very soon in the month of March. We're

965
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 4: going to be back on as well. This is my

966
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 4: sixteenth year in media, so more to come. Africanhistoryetwork dot Com.

967
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 4: Thanks brother Carl, and thanks Kevin. Happy Black History Month

968
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 4: to everybody.

969
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Mike, and Mike always brings receipts. That's

970
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: what I love about Mike. He's always got receipts. You know,

971
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 1: Usually people just say things that aren't have any receipts.

972
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: To back up there again, Michael m Tip always always

973
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: has receipts, and I thank you for that. Anyway, let's

974
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: go move on to our next guest. If you're on Hostate,

975
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: because you're going to talk about music as well. He

976
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: calls himself the prison Doctor. Grant rise and miss the

977
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: prison Doctor. Welcome to the program.

978
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 3: Hey, good morning, how are you my friend?

979
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm still learning, just learned a lot from Michael m

980
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: O Tip. I want to learn about you. But first,

981
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: since you know we do it to all our new guest,

982
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: just give us a background of who you are so

983
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: people know that you're the real deal.

984
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely well. First of all, thanks for having they call

985
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 3: me to prison.

986
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: Doctor.

987
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 3: I go around the country mentoring at risk youth. I

988
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 3: do a very unique service where I go into the

989
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 3: homes and I do a mentoring program right in the

990
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 3: living room. Generally did with children that are like very

991
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 3: out of control. You know, children that beat up their mothers,

992
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 3: slap their mothers with pistols. Literally a kid, you not, Carl,

993
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous going on here. But I deal with a

994
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: very unique crowd of children and I do it all

995
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 3: over the country. We've risen to be number one in

996
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 3: the country at what we do. Have the highest success

997
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 3: rate known to man at transforming at risk youth. So

998
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: it's a great thing that we do. But it's a

999
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 3: serious work and I'm honored to do it.

1000
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: And you also have a background in music. Can you

1001
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: share that with us in the family?

1002
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1003
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Was a motown funk brother who played with Marvin Gaye.

1004
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 3: What's going on? You know, the horn on, What's going

1005
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 3: on and let's get it on in Mercy, Mercy me

1006
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 3: and Inner City Blues is that's my father's horn. Eli Fontaine.

1007
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 3: He also played with the Dramatics back in the day

1008
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 3: in the sixties and seventies. The horn on. What you

1009
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 3: see is what you get in Mercy in the rain,

1010
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 3: and those are my father's horns. So very very honored

1011
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 3: to be the son of a legend of that time.

1012
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: Of course, the Funk Brothers, and speak about music. Now,

1013
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: you talk to these young people. A lot of the

1014
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 1: things about Michael Amiltep was just telling us about it

1015
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: fueled by what the music that they hear as opposed

1016
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: to music run when we grew up the music that

1017
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: you just mentioned, the Funk Brothers that, uh, how do

1018
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: how do you? How do you? How do you deal

1019
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: with that? Knowing that they listen to their music, what

1020
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: they're getting today is different from what we grew up on.

1021
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 3: Well, actually, that's that's one of the biggest problems I

1022
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 3: believe it or not, Carl. It's one of these kids

1023
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 3: irgate also I gate, but also particularly they're irgate. These

1024
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 3: kids are listening to music man that is calling women

1025
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 3: bees and h's you know, places materialism and a higher

1026
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: vied value than their own life, you know what I mean.

1027
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 3: They're listening to things that are very destructive and damaging

1028
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 3: to their to their ears, you know what I mean.

1029
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 3: And when we grew up, you know, we had groups

1030
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 3: to call themselves the supremes, meaning the highest, you know

1031
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 3: what I mean, the miracles and you know had great names,

1032
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 3: and today these kids are calling themselves bees with attitudes

1033
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 3: and you know, names that are very crazy. And these

1034
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 3: kids are looking up to these artists. Our children are

1035
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 3: being influenced by a lot of these these these artists,

1036
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 3: and that's just the reality. And you know, people are

1037
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 3: quick to say, well, you can't blame the artists, you know,

1038
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 3: for for you know, the cheer the child going bad,

1039
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 3: that's the parents responsibility. Well, well that will be correct,

1040
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 3: But there's one problem to that. What about the children

1041
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 3: who don't have proper parents. What about the the hundreds

1042
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 3: and the children that don't have dads in a home

1043
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 3: or don't you know, they don't have moms at all,

1044
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Some of these kids are

1045
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 3: falster kids. So many kids are our kids are in homes,

1046
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I mean some of these

1047
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: kids just have negligent parents, don't give a damn. There's

1048
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 3: not parenting correctly. So we don't think that that responsibility

1049
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 3: should then lie on the rappers, you know, and the industry,

1050
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 3: the television and the you know, the media at some

1051
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 3: point we all have to take responsibility for a child

1052
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 3: that's going in the wrong direction, that may not have

1053
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 3: proper parents or parents at all. We can't neglect that

1054
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 3: huge demographic of children out here, you know, so I'm

1055
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 3: a descender of that. You know, when people are constantly

1056
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 3: trying to shift the blame from the artists and put

1057
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 3: it on parents, Well, of course parents are the first

1058
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 3: line of defense. Of course, the parents are the ones

1059
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 3: who are supposed to protect their child first. But damn it,

1060
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 3: that's not our reality in America. Unfortunately a lot of

1061
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 3: kids don't have proper parents and have parents at all.

1062
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 3: So at that point it falls upon every adult, every

1063
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 3: mature adult who gives a dang about these children, should

1064
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 3: step up and be more cognitive of the things that

1065
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 3: they're doing. Insane.

1066
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: All right, hold up for right then we're gonna say

1067
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: a side for a few months. We come back. You

1068
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: can join this conversation. Calls himself the Prison Doctor. He's

1069
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,959
Speaker 1: a motivational speaker and he's changed the lives of many,

1070
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: many of our young people. What are your thoughts? You

1071
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: want to get in on this conversation. Reach out to

1072
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: us at eight hundred four five zero seventy eight, seventy six,

1073
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: and we'll take a phone calls next and Grand Rising family,

1074
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: thanks for starting your Thursday with us. And I guess

1075
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: they calls himself the Prison Doctors, a new guest on

1076
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: our program. We start off what he does. He's a

1077
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: motivational speaker and he speaks with our children, our young people.

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Speaker 1: And we talked about the influence of music before with

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Speaker 1: a Michael Emo tip out of Detroit, and I think

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Speaker 1: the Prison Doctor's Adam Detroit as well. But Raymond and

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Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill, has a question or a comment for you,

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Speaker 1: A Prison Doctors online three Grand Rising, Raymond, you're on

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Speaker 1: with the Prison Doctor.

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Speaker 7: Oh, thank you for taking on the call. I wanted

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Speaker 7: to comment on the two things. One, I guess they

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Speaker 7: will call me the prison Doctor because I did a

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Speaker 7: long term as in conservation and I talks to young

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Speaker 7: people and people my age too, about the consequences of

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Speaker 7: that listening and not listening to especially your parents or

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Speaker 7: the adult figures in your life. And when you don't listen,

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01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 7: it's a heavy price you pay and use it. That

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01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 7: can be longevity of the conserration and sometimes death. And

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Speaker 7: another thing I wanted to comment on is about the

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Speaker 7: guarantee of bad rules that are portrayed of advocate Americans

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Speaker 7: and movies as well as in music. And the best

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Speaker 7: solution today that I've learned to do in my life

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Speaker 7: is not supported. I don't watch movies that has these

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Speaker 7: negative betrayals of black people, and I don't listen to

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Speaker 7: music that uses the N word and degrade women. And

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Speaker 7: also you can call.

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Speaker 13: The radio station and speak to the program manager and

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01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 13: let them know that certain music it's not acceptable, and

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01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 13: I won't support the advertisers who does it. If we

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Speaker 13: does that collectively, this will eradicate this type of music

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01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 13: and betrayal. But the main thing is I tell young people,

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Speaker 13: especially the consequences of not listening can be devastating. And

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Speaker 13: I speak from personal experience of doing long term and conservation.

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Speaker 13: For many, many years, I did not listen. I didn't

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Speaker 13: listen to my mother and father, in my school teacher

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Speaker 13: in the fifth grade, I didn't listen to him, and

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01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 13: I paid a dear price for it. So I try

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01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 13: to let my life story be an example of the

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Speaker 13: consequences of not listening.

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Speaker 1: All right, very much, thank you in imprisoned the doctor.

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Speaker 1: You want to respond to anything that, Raymond said, No, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, there's nothing I can really say to that. You

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01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 3: know his his you know his peace. I can't it's

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01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:11,919
Speaker 3: nothing to say.

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Speaker 1: I mean, all right, kind of a question for you though,

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Speaker 1: for sure.

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Speaker 3: But we have to look, you know, are things that

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01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 3: are you know, on the on the bigger scale of things,

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Speaker 3: you know, the ones who actually you know, allow the

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Speaker 3: music to be played, Who runs the media, who runs

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Speaker 3: their waves? You know what I mean is a is

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Speaker 3: a hit hand or a shoot Actually it's not so

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Speaker 3: hitten today, but it's your power behind a lot of

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Speaker 3: stuff that's going on with the music industry. And uh,

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Speaker 3: it's a it's a it's a reason why. You know,

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Speaker 3: everybody has an agenda. But you know, for those who

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Speaker 3: have eyes, let them see, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: But until we change that, until we change the mindset

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Speaker 3: you know, of our own people. You know, I'm a people,

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01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 3: I'm a person of everybody. You know. I help white children,

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Speaker 3: black children, make the king children, pink children, blue children,

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Speaker 3: children from Pluto's children, from mods. I help everybody. But

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01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 3: you know, until we start understanding how to unify collectively

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01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 3: and you know, clean up our own backyard on things

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01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 3: that we do in our own homes. You know, nothing

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01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 3: that was going to get solved. You know, we generally

1141
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 3: have these kind of conversations year in year out town

1142
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Speaker 3: hall meetings. You know, the problem is and you know

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01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 3: everybody's you know, you know sound you know, just ridiculous

1144
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 3: was going on. But nobody really implements solution. You know,

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01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 3: nobody really you know, we talk about the problem all

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01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: the time, but you know, nobody is really really putting

1147
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 3: up the effort to really fix this stuff and do

1148
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 3: the necessary sacrificing that is required in order to help

1149
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Speaker 3: our children in the long run. And that's just a reality, Carl.

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Speaker 3: We talk about the problem all day. People are always

1151
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 3: talking about the problem, and you know, sound biting this

1152
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 3: and you know, but everybody, we know what's going wrong

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01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 3: with our country. We know it's going wrong with our children.

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01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 3: We know it's going wrong with our race. You know,

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01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 3: these thinks about a mystery, and it's very frustrating to

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01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 3: hear so many mature adults and legislatures and you know,

1157
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 3: people you know just kind of spend this thing like

1158
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 3: they don't know what we should be doing in order

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Speaker 3: to correct the behaviors of our children and our people.

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01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,040
Speaker 3: We know we just don't want to do it right.

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Speaker 1: And we talk about that a lot here. We talk

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01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: about solutions instead of talking about the problems, because we

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01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: all know what our problems are. Family just checking out

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Speaker 1: a suprission, doctors, a motivational speaker is changing the lives

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Speaker 1: of so many of our young people. My question for you, though,

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Speaker 1: what is the worst scenario that you have seen on

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Speaker 1: the ground when you're helping some of our juveniles. What's

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Speaker 1: the worst scenario? Can you share that with us?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's many of them. I'd like

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Speaker 3: I said, I've engaged the children that literally have bags

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Speaker 3: of marijuana. These are fourteen fifteen year old kids who

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01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 3: are you know, selling drugs. You know, have weapons in

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01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 3: the home that the sometimes the parents don't know about,

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01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 3: and sometimes they do know, but they're too afraid to

1175
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:58,959
Speaker 3: engage their child to stop them from doing what they're

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01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 3: doing because the child either beat the parent up or

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01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 3: threatening CPS, you know, the call CPS on their own

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01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 3: fathers or mothers, or the parents are afraid of getting

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Speaker 3: arrested and losing their job or their home because the

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Speaker 3: child is out threatening to get them in trouble. So,

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Speaker 3: I mean, we live in a very very different world, Carl,

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01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 3: than what we did back in our day. You know,

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01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 3: these kids out of control. And again, like gentlemen just stated,

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Speaker 3: you know a lot of stuff is from what's going in.

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Speaker 3: They're irrigating their our gate. Like you said, the movies,

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Speaker 3: you know, we seem to gravitate towards the negativity of

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Speaker 3: our people. We seem to be having a factuation with

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Speaker 3: seeing you know, the very low life nature of ourselves

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Speaker 3: depicted in movies. We seem to be overly you know,

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Speaker 3: attracted to entertainment, you know, and this thing is is problematic,

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Speaker 3: you know, and until the adults can start, you know,

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Speaker 3: being more mature, and it's not going to get any better.

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Speaker 3: You know, we replace God. God is not the home

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Speaker 3: no more. I don't know how to heck, you can

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Speaker 3: see anything without having some form of spirituality in the home,

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01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 3: You're right, Whether you're Muslim or Christian or Buddhist or whatever,

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01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 3: you know, whatever you are, you know at least you

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01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 3: would have, you know, we had some form of spirituality

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Speaker 3: in the home, some some form of uh a foundation

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Speaker 3: you know that our children and we lived by you

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01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 3: know what I mean, whether we you know, you personally

1202
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 3: differed with people's beliefs or whatever. You know, we had

1203
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 3: that in the home. Today there's no sense of spirituality

1204
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 3: in the home. People don't pray no more, people don't

1205
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 3: believe in God, don't talk God. You know, church is entertainment.

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Speaker 3: So the kids, it's like, what does the kids have

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01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:35,600
Speaker 3: to do? So it's almost like, you know, it's like

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Speaker 3: it's so much, Carl, I could be here for the

1209
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 3: next three hours talking about you know, these things. But

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01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 3: we have failed as a as a community of adults,

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01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 3: as men. Men have dropped the ball. Our women are

1212
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 3: not you know, mothers, they're they're partiers and booty shakers.

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01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 3: I be all they with what I've experienced, cards out

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Speaker 3: of control.

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Speaker 1: Wow, and you see firsthand you're up up in front

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01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: and comparison with all these situations when you to some

1217
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 1: of these young people. So what do you what sort

1218
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: of techniques do you use though as the prison's doctor,

1219
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 1: as a motivational speaker, and you get facing the problem

1220
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Speaker 1: of a child that comes in, as you said, you know,

1221
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 1: probably got weed and smokes, got got guns, and the

1222
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: parents are afraid to even check them or to say

1223
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 1: anything to them. What what do you do to bring

1224
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 1: that child back into the fold.

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Speaker 3: That's a great question, and h let me answer it

1226
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 3: like this, the Bible that you don't cast your pearls

1227
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 3: amongst swine, not saying to you, Caruble, let me explain that.

1228
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 3: So I've learned a long time ago that you got

1229
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 3: to be careful when you divulge your you know, your

1230
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,799
Speaker 3: secrets or your what God has given you the ability

1231
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 3: to do something that no one else is doing. Got

1232
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 3: to be careful with just airing that out to the world, right,

1233
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,600
Speaker 3: because what happens is people will take my techniques and

1234
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,640
Speaker 3: the things that my team that I've trained them on

1235
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 3: how to do this, and they'll go out there and

1236
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 3: they'll try to dictimize some child. They'll take what's were

1237
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,840
Speaker 3: meant for good and make it bad. You know. I

1238
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 3: say that because people have hacked my social media, Carl.

1239
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 3: I've had over eight hundred thousand followers on TikTok and

1240
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 3: these people somebody hacked it and made it a negative

1241
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 3: page where they're putting porn because we couldn't take it

1242
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 3: down because they hacked it. Right, so they have pictures

1243
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 3: of sexual things or a page that says something about

1244
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 3: prison doctor you under saying that was my page We're

1245
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,839
Speaker 3: over eight hundred thousand tiktoks. We have a million followers

1246
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 3: on Instagram right now, over a million. If you push

1247
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 3: up the prison dr you'll see we have over a

1248
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 3: million follows right People are constantly trying to steal my accounts.

1249
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 3: If you push up and go on social media car

1250
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 3: and push up the prison Doctor, you're going to see

1251
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 3: fifteen different accounts right now. And for your listeners, if

1252
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 3: you think I'm joking, do it, You're going to see

1253
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 3: fifteen different fake accounts under my name. And those are

1254
01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 3: not And thousands of people are following those pages that

1255
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 3: are being mislaided, thinking they're following me, but they're following

1256
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 3: some potential predator. And some of these people are calling

1257
01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:59,640
Speaker 3: homes and emailing these people saying they're me so they

1258
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 3: can gain access to the home or get money or

1259
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 3: whatever the heck they're trying to do so again, so

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01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 3: I'm very cautious of casting my my pearls amongst those

1261
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 3: kind of swine. And because you know, people do bad

1262
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 3: things to children, and my job is to protect children

1263
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 3: at even at my own life. And I'm serious about that.

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01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 1: So all right, thirty minutes after the top of the dot.

1265
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: When did you decide that this was going to be

1266
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: your slice of the pine? When did what was it?

1267
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: Was this an event or did you just wake up

1268
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: one morning or was it you know, said hey, this

1269
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,640
Speaker 1: is what I'm gonna deal with right now. How did

1270
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 1: you come to this space?

1271
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 3: That is a great question. So I did twenty years

1272
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 3: of my life in prison for the hiccler on robbery

1273
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 3: back in eighteen nineteen eighty nine. I stole a car

1274
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 3: when I was young, had gunpoint, you know, being stupid,

1275
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 3: running with the wrong crowd, you know, trying to be

1276
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 3: something I wasn't, trying to impress girls and having a

1277
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,720
Speaker 3: fast car and you know, all this craft, and it

1278
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 3: led my behind to get sentenced to twenty five or

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01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 3: sixty years. And I did twenty right, not another story

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01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 3: in of itself, because I literally had watched as I

1281
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,760
Speaker 3: was incarcerated, people come in for raping a child and

1282
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 3: get the fibers and get out and repeat another offense

1283
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 3: of rape, of molesting a child, and come back to

1284
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 3: prison and beat me homestill again after violating a child's womb.

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Speaker 7: A car.

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01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 3: Didn't hurt anybody. I never shot and killed anybody can

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01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 3: google my record. Mart Fontaine. You won't see nothing in

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Speaker 3: there about me shooting, killing, selling drugs, raping nobody, nothing hideous. Right,

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Speaker 3: I got twenty five or fifty years from a racist judge. Right, fought,

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Speaker 3: did everything, didn't work, pills were denied. I was able

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Speaker 3: to get some good time back my behavior. Right. So,

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01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 3: when I was in prison, I understood at that time

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Speaker 3: that God had me in Therefore he set me that

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01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 3: for a reason. Right in there, I studied every religion,

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01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,719
Speaker 3: the Man. I studied the Dictionary, I studied the Koran,

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01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,600
Speaker 3: the Bible. I studied Spanish. I speak three different languages.

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Speaker 3: Because I wanted you to sit still. I did self

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Speaker 3: reflection and got to understand who I am as a person,

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01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 3: right to understand why am I here on earth? What

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01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 3: is my parthose in life? A lot of people in

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01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 3: treat society, unfortunately, don't have that kind of time to

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01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 3: sit still and think about why are you here? And

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01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 3: what is my aim and purpose? What am I to

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01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 3: do with my talents? You know what I'm saying, Because

1305
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 3: you're so busy paying bills and taking care of children

1306
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 3: and bully shaking and finger popping, that she ain't thinking

1307
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 3: about self analyzation. I did that, so I knew God

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01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 3: had called me to do something great. So I came

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01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 3: home to my community in Detroit, saw my communities being

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01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 3: overran drugs and children with their pants hanging out there behind,

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01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 3: and women calling themselves the B word and responding to

1312
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 3: it as if it were the name you under saying,

1313
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 3: kids are smoking weed. No fathers in a home. When

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01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 3: I went to prison, you knock on the door, some

1315
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 3: man was coming to the door. When I came home

1316
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:56,680
Speaker 3: twenty years later, You're not going to a door A

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01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 3: mother or grandmother was answering the door because no man

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01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 3: was the home and our kids were suffering behind it.

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01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 3: So I started this five oh one c three called

1320
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 3: the Prison Doc Inc. And started going into these homes,

1321
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 3: mentoring's kids with what I knew how to do and

1322
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 3: how to be affected at the best in the world

1323
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 3: at what I do. And it has grown so fast

1324
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 3: so far. Tiny and Ti tried to come to an

1325
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 3: event I just had at the Atlanta Fish Mark in

1326
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 3: Bucket just last night. I just got home two this morning,

1327
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 3: and Tiny and Ti came to show they support to

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01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,000
Speaker 3: my event. Were downstairs. Unfortunately they know we were upstairs,

1329
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,599
Speaker 3: but we have a lot of support from people all

1330
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 3: around the world, big names that follow me and like

1331
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 3: my social media, from ol Vita Davis, the Franks, the

1332
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 3: Loan to Queen Latifa, to the people and the white

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01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 3: I mean just all over all demographics. And so that

1334
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 3: that's what made get into this field of cars. That

1335
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 3: it was needed and so we do it and I'm

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01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:50,559
Speaker 3: the best at it.

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Speaker 1: And I say that twenty six away from from the top.

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01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 1: Our family that's the prison doctor. It's a motivational speaker

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01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: and they's changed a lot of lives. But before you,

1340
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 1: when your life went south because you your father's famous,

1341
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:04,799
Speaker 1: one of the Funk Brothers. You're in Detroit. People obviously

1342
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: know your dad and you probably met a lot of

1343
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: the Motown folks as well. Did that ever deter you

1344
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: from doing wrong? Well, I'm going to embarrass my dad

1345
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 1: because that's what kept me straight. I didn't even want

1346
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 1: to embarrass my family. Go ahead, response, because my family

1347
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: wasn't as famous as your family. So I'm saying, you know,

1348
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: we kept me in check. I would never want to

1349
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: embarrass my family do something wrong. But your dad was

1350
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: famous and you met all these famous people, and it

1351
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 1: would be an embarrassment to the entire family. If you

1352
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:41,040
Speaker 1: did something wrong, did that deter you?

1353
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 3: Because I wasn't thinking on that level. Just like I

1354
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 3: have a lot of households I do today are I'm

1355
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 3: getting calls from therapists that asked me to come into

1356
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 3: their home and deal with their children. I get called

1357
01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,600
Speaker 3: from police officers, I get calls from the legislatures, and

1358
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:54,800
Speaker 3: I get calls from a lot of celebrities. I've done

1359
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 3: a lot of celebrity kids in Beverly Hills, California. If

1360
01:15:57,439 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 3: you know my social media, you can look up some

1361
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 3: of the people I've dealt with, But I can't reveal

1362
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 3: their name because again, you know, some of these people

1363
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 3: didn't want their identity because they are celebrities. But I

1364
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 3: do a lot of kids that are very wealthy, have

1365
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 3: parents that are very famous, that are in all walks

1366
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 3: of life right. What happens is is that when you're young, right,

1367
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 3: and your father's not in the home as much as

1368
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,719
Speaker 3: he should be, sometimes you can get lure to the streets.

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01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 3: My father was on the he was in Motown, So

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01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 3: when I was being raised, my father was in Europe,

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01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 3: you know, with the Temptations and Marvin Gay. You know,

1372
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 3: my father was with the Dramatics. You know, my father

1373
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 3: was on the road, you know, earning money to pay

1374
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 3: for you know, things that I stay home mom, you know,

1375
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 3: need it, you know what I'm saying. And four boys.

1376
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 3: You know I have older brothers. You know, I'm the youngest,

1377
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 3: you know. So dad was on the road. He was

1378
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 3: with Motoime and played on every day album at that time.

1379
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 3: You could think of Frank Sinatra, the Temptations, Marvin Gay,

1380
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 3: the Dramatics, Bootsy Collins, George Clinton, Michael Henderson, you know,

1381
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 3: Norman Connors. And my father played with Autumn Cast Google Et.

1382
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 3: So my dad was busy. Now I'm not justifying that

1383
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 3: because being busy like that, he neglected somewhat of his

1384
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 3: role as a father and a home right. So so

1385
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 3: a lot of that is what happened with me. And

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01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 3: also I was entitled. I was spoiled, you know, because

1387
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 3: I was so used to having money for my father

1388
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 3: getting the leather coats of the third Coats, Fox Rabbit coats.

1389
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 3: I was getting all that stuff in the seventies and eighties,

1390
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, you know, and sometimes that

1391
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:28,360
Speaker 3: stuff when you over you know, entitle a child or

1392
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 3: spoil a child, you know sometimes that that stuff can

1393
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 3: go through their head and they get to smell on themselves,

1394
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 3: they get to doing things they shouldn't be doing. And

1395
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 3: that's kind of like my plight of what happened. Even

1396
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:41,599
Speaker 3: though my father had an impeccable reputation in the music industry,

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01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 3: you know, he wasn't home as much as uh maybe

1398
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 3: he should have been. And I loved my father and

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01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 3: he was the greatest man I ever known.

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Speaker 1: All Right, hold up at right there, the prison doctors.

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01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 1: I guess family, you want to join this conversation. You

1402
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: heard his story. He's a motivational speaker and he's changed

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01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 1: lives to so many young people. What are your thoughts?

1404
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: Reach out to us one hundred four five zero seventy

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01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 1: eight seventy six and we'll take the calls after we

1406
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 1: check the news. That's next and grand rising family, and

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01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: thanks to staying with us on this Thursday morning here

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01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 1: at sixteen away from the top of the air with

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01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 1: that guest it calls himself the prison doctor. He's one

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01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: of these the top motivational speakers. If you have a

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01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: child that has some problem, this is the person you

1412
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 1: need to talk to and you can reach him at

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01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six.

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01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: Before we go back to the let me just remind

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01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,560
Speaker 1: you come up. Later this morning, we speak with the

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01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 1: Master Teacher, Brother ashra Quasi. He's going to report on

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01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,600
Speaker 1: his recent trip to Ethiopia's Omo Valley and also's going

1418
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: to talk about the African origin of freemasonry. And tomorrow's Friday,

1419
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: So we're going to give you a chance to free mind,

1420
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 1: and all that means is think for yourself and join

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01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 1: us for our open phone Friday program. We're being promptly

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01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,800
Speaker 1: at six am Eastern time right here in Baltimore on

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01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: ten ten WLB and also in the DMV on fourteen

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01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 1: fifty WL. So let me ask you this, mister prison doctor.

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01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 1: Back in the day, there was a program called Scared Straight.

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01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 1: I'm I'm sure if you remember that on TV. I'm

1427
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: sure if you ran in your city. But these youngsters,

1428
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: they took them to the prisons in jail, and these

1429
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,680
Speaker 1: hardcore gangsters, these youngsters who thought they were bad, you know,

1430
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: they meant some real hardcore bad guys in the prison

1431
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,040
Speaker 1: and that turn them around. Does that trick work these days?

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01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 3: Well, you have to know, I mean, they had the

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01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 3: highest success rate as well. Back in their time, the

1434
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 3: Scarce Raate program was very very well known and very

1435
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 3: effective at that time. But there's other factors that children

1436
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 3: have changed from the from the eighties, so you have

1437
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 3: to change with the time, right, So our program is

1438
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 3: a little different, right. We not only do we do

1439
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 3: a very you know, intense mentoring when we go on

1440
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 3: the home, but we also love on these children. You know,

1441
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 3: you can't just use fear to transform a child for

1442
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 3: long term, you know what I mean. Fear only lasts

1443
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 3: for so long. It'll stopped you in your tracks right

1444
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 3: at that moment. But behind that, if you're looking for

1445
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 3: pure success, you know, for the longevity of you know,

1446
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 3: what you're trying to do with the child, you have

1447
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 3: to give them something different, you know, So you have

1448
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,599
Speaker 3: to know how to apply you know, the the the

1449
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,800
Speaker 3: the shop back and all. And then you also have

1450
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 3: to know when and how to apply love because that's

1451
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 3: ultimately what these children desire. They desire love. You be

1452
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 3: shocked at how many kids that literally were gang members

1453
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 3: or beating up their parents or not going to school

1454
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 3: and doing some very crazy things stealing cars, robbing people, you.

1455
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 5: Know what I mean.

1456
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 3: But all they really wanted was a damn hug. Did

1457
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 3: you hear that? Just say it, Carl.

1458
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you determin that? Though? How do you

1459
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 1: determ me that? How do you It's not.

1460
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 3: A determination, it is just what it is. See the thing, Carl,

1461
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 3: this thing isn't a mystery, right, It's the same all

1462
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 3: across America. I should not be this popular. I'm not

1463
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 3: doing anything differently, to be honest, than any other man

1464
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 3: could be doing their darn self right. And it's not

1465
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 3: a mystery of how to do this. So you just

1466
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,720
Speaker 3: got to be a parent, be a dark parent. You know,

1467
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 3: when the discipline your child. When your child does something

1468
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 3: stupid or boneheaded thing, you discipline them, and then when

1469
01:20:57,680 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 3: they do well, you love on them. That's a one

1470
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 3: two problem. Nothing but the world.

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01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, interrupt you for a second here, you now you can't.

1472
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 1: You can't chastise your children back what we could back

1473
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 1: in the days. They call the cops on there and

1474
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:13,719
Speaker 1: they'll tell you.

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01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 3: Let's go there, Carl, I love you. I love you, Carl.

1476
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,679
Speaker 3: A great question. Let's go there, Let's go there. See

1477
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 3: that's the problem. Yes, you can, And let me tell

1478
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 3: you some let me the law there is now in

1479
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 3: your states it may be different, but you can hit

1480
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 3: a child below the waists and above the knee right.

1481
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 3: In certain states the laws may be a little bit different. Right.

1482
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 3: The thing is, you can't break skin. You don't want

1483
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 3: to beat them and scar them. But the Bible tells me, right,

1484
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,439
Speaker 3: spare the rids for the child, right, and all through

1485
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 3: the Bible. You'll see other things in the Bible, Old

1486
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 3: Testament and New Testament right where it tells you that

1487
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 3: these children desire, you have to use a discipline like that, right,

1488
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,679
Speaker 3: Not talking about beating your child. That's ridiculous, and anybody

1489
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 3: thinks that as an idiot, I'm not talking about beating

1490
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 3: your child where you're scarring them and you're just using violence.

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01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 3: It's not it's not true. But see, I'm a believer

1492
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 3: in God, right, So anything else outside of what God

1493
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 3: says do, I don't want to hear that noise that

1494
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,639
Speaker 3: you quiet that right. So if you're not a believer

1495
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 3: and you don't believe, then my conversation is not going

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01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 3: to resonate with you and your child and how you

1497
01:22:11,439 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 3: know this this process works? Right, So let me repeat that,

1498
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 3: if you do not believe in God, right, because that's

1499
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 3: the only mesage I use, is what God tells me

1500
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 3: to do, and it works. If you're not a believer

1501
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,720
Speaker 3: and you think God is just some joking, you know,

1502
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 3: that's just some garbage some white.

1503
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 5: Man that made.

1504
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 3: If you think like that, then you don't need to

1505
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 3: be on this radio shore listening to me. You give

1506
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 3: me a little time and you can come back an

1507
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 3: hour from now, because this is not going to resonate. Right.

1508
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 3: So the Bible tells you on how to discipline your

1509
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 3: child all through the scripture. Anybody that tries that says

1510
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 3: it's not in there, that's not true. I can show

1511
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 3: them multiple scripture right where it tells you how to

1512
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 3: raise your children, right, So it's not you know, Pearerents

1513
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 3: should never be afraid of somebody telling them from the

1514
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 3: outside what to do in your home with your child,

1515
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,600
Speaker 3: particularly when you call that them people and they're not

1516
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 3: assisting you. You know. So one hand, you're going to

1517
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,559
Speaker 3: tell me that I can't do something with my child

1518
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 3: in my home. But yet when I call you to

1519
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 3: help me with my child that I control, you tell

1520
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 3: me you can't do nothing. Because he's a mine. I

1521
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 3: just got to deal with it, So something about that

1522
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 3: doesn't work for me. So see, I'm the type man,

1523
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 3: right father, who believes in discipline right and wherever those

1524
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 3: consequences are, I'm willing to take those consequences because I'd

1525
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 3: be darned if you tell me that I keep discipline

1526
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 3: my child and he's out of control, slapping me, cursing me,

1527
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:27,599
Speaker 3: throwing his life down a drain, smoking, drinking, shooting up people,

1528
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 3: doing whatever hell he wants to do in my home.

1529
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 3: And then you're going to tell me what I can

1530
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 3: and can't do, But then you won't help me when

1531
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 3: my child is doing something wrong that I you know

1532
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 3: that you told me I can't deal with. You're not

1533
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 3: going to do that to me. I'm going to do

1534
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 3: what I have to do for my child. That is

1535
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 3: the responsibility of a parent. And that's when you lose

1536
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 3: power parents, is when you allow an outside force or

1537
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 3: entity to tell you how to deal with your child

1538
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 3: that you gave birth to and it lives in your home,

1539
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 3: and that the loss is you're required and you're responsible

1540
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 3: for that child. So I'm not going to allow no

1541
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 3: outside That's not a debatable thing for me. I'll give

1542
01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 3: a damn what they say, I'm gonna do what I

1543
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,639
Speaker 3: have to do to save my child and to bring order, structure,

1544
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 3: and discipline in my home for the success of my child.

1545
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 3: And that's how you got a rollers a parent. And

1546
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 3: if you fearful of consequences and all that crap, then

1547
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 3: then yeah, you're gonna beheld hostage one day by your child.

1548
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 1: So all right, turn away from that top before I

1549
01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 1: take coffee. A tweet question, tweeter says, please ask your

1550
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 1: guests about how his children, wife, and family respond to

1551
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: his work? How do they respond to your work? Your family?

1552
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't wait a minute, let me understand your question.

1553
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 3: What are you asking me wrong?

1554
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: Tweeter says, please ask you a guest about how his children, wife,

1555
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: and family responds to his work. How does your family

1556
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 1: respond to what you do?

1557
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1558
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 3: Well, I think I'm sorry. I don't mean to be dispectful.

1559
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 3: I hope to God I'm not. I mean no disrespect,

1560
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 3: But my results bee for itself, right, So pretty much

1561
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 3: what you see on the outside is what you're gonna

1562
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 3: see in the inside. Right. But I don't really discuss

1563
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 3: my family personal life. That's I don't do that I

1564
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 3: did with children outside of my home all across the country,

1565
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 3: and that's what I do. But I don't, you know,

1566
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't. I'm not that guy. I don't.

1567
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 3: That's personal, you know, me and my family. Or if

1568
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 3: I have a wife or don't have a wife, if

1569
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 3: I have a child, don't have a child.

1570
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 5: I don't.

1571
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 3: I don't answer those questions.

1572
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: All right, not away from the top of Charles is

1573
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 1: calling from Baltimore. He has a question for you online,

1574
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 1: one grand rising, Charles. You're home with the prison doctor. Oh, Charles,

1575
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 1: Charles left us all right, ate away from the top

1576
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: of the hour. You know, I've had I've had people

1577
01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:41,639
Speaker 1: who call this program back in the day. They were

1578
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 1: definitely scared of their of their children. The Simele mother

1579
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 1: wearing a son, and he called all kinds of names,

1580
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 1: stays out, smokes me, and she she had no control

1581
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: over him. And some of the brothers heard her plea

1582
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,640
Speaker 1: she was. She was actually crying, I'm the here, and

1583
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: they said telling me, give it, give me, give me

1584
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: that sis as number man. I'll be able to I'll

1585
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 1: straighten him out. And I says, no, you can't do

1586
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 1: that because you might catch a case. What would you

1587
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 1: have said to that young that mother who's because you know,

1588
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 1: if you don't start early, you can't all of a sudden,

1589
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 1: you know, tell a child that you now you got

1590
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 1: you're trying to enforce new laws, you got to respect

1591
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,040
Speaker 1: me and all that. That won't work if you if

1592
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,799
Speaker 1: you haven't been telling them that when they were younger.

1593
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 1: So what's the next move for them? For those folks

1594
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: who are caught in that that.

1595
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 3: Issue one eight hundred three six nine eight ninety three

1596
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 3: two that that that would be my answer, right, that's

1597
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 3: my my reaches. But you know, once a parent loses

1598
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 3: control like that, sometimes they need an outside interventionist, you know,

1599
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,400
Speaker 3: they need somebody to come into the home and kind

1600
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 3: of can restructure boundaries and things like that. Once a

1601
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 3: child sees that their parent is weak, right, or the

1602
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:56,719
Speaker 3: parent is afraid of them. Once a child called crosses

1603
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 3: that barrier, it is very difficult for that parent to

1604
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 3: bring back some sense of normalcy into that home without

1605
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 3: an outside help. Which is why a lot of parents

1606
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 3: at that point they see therapy for their kids. Right,

1607
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 3: They'll try to get therapy involved, right, because police are

1608
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 3: handcuffed on what they can and can't do because they're

1609
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,600
Speaker 3: bound by restrictions, right, So the police are you know,

1610
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 3: bless their hearts, blessed their service. I love police officers,

1611
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 3: but they are handicapped on what they can do with

1612
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 3: a child because they're underage. Right, So then the parent

1613
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 3: calls a therapist, right, Well, the therapist if the kid

1614
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 3: is already beating up the mother and violating the rules.

1615
01:27:33,680 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 3: What makes the parent or anybody think that child is

1616
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 3: gonna willingly go to a therapist? Right The child is

1617
01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 3: telling them I'm not going to therapy. You can't make me.

1618
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 3: And then when the children does go to therapy, therapy

1619
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 3: sometimes are not effective with the kind of children, With

1620
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 3: those kind of children. Therapy has its place, right for

1621
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,839
Speaker 3: certain children, and certain marriage counselors and all that stuff,

1622
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 3: they have their place, but not for children that are

1623
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,640
Speaker 3: beating up in a saut mother and cursing them and

1624
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:03,920
Speaker 3: a to we. Therapy really don't work on children like

1625
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,320
Speaker 3: that because, again, therapists are bound by restrictions, right, they

1626
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 3: can only go so far. And unfortunately, Carl I have

1627
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 3: to say this again, no disrespect to therapists, but a

1628
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 3: lot of them is in it for the money and

1629
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 3: insurance money. They're not really doing the hard work of

1630
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 3: dealing with these kind of children and really getting to

1631
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 3: the bottom of it. Right, A lot of these kids

1632
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 3: are telling me this, So what I'm telling you, Carl,

1633
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 3: is not nothing. I think. I'm telling you what I

1634
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 3: have testimonials of and video footage of where these kids

1635
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,640
Speaker 3: and the parents are telling me that therapists are a

1636
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:35,080
Speaker 3: joke and that they're going to see these therapists and

1637
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 3: they've seen them for ten minutes and then they're out

1638
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 3: the door the next ten minutes, and the therapists are

1639
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,839
Speaker 3: asking basic questions and just taking a blood pressure and

1640
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 3: they're not really getting into the root of what's really

1641
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:50,000
Speaker 3: causing these children to go away. And that's just the reality.

1642
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,679
Speaker 3: And again I'm not saying therapy doesn't have its place.

1643
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 3: It does have its place, but on those types of children,

1644
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 3: therapy is very ineffective. I am one of the few guys,

1645
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 3: if only guy from what I'm told, that actually does

1646
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 3: this service and is actually effective with these kids because

1647
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 3: I know how to go in and deal with them.

1648
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,040
Speaker 3: The reality is that these are kids. Their brains, they

1649
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 3: they haven't even fully developed. Our parents should not be

1650
01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 3: being defeated by children, right when you are a full

1651
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 3: grown intelligent, articulate, masculine man. Right. I emphasize that word

1652
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 3: masculine man. Right. There's no way a nine year old

1653
01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 3: is going to be in your home kicking your behind

1654
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 3: and cursing you on telling you what he or she

1655
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 3: will and won't do in your home. And you are

1656
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 3: a full grown adult, masculine male or masculine or excuse me,

1657
01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 3: or or owned woman. Because there's some women out there

1658
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:44,320
Speaker 3: who ain't got a man, but they still know how

1659
01:29:44,360 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 3: to hold down the law, right, so their brains ain't

1660
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 3: fully developed cars, so they shouldn't be, you know, dominating

1661
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:52,439
Speaker 3: the home like that.

1662
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 1: So all right, hold, I thought right there, we've got

1663
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 1: to check the traffic and weather wal more time in

1664
01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 1: our different cities four minutes away from the top. Family,

1665
01:29:59,439 --> 01:30:02,280
Speaker 1: come back, Rick and Laurel has a question for you. Family.

1666
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 1: You two can join our conversation with I Guess it's

1667
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 1: the prison doctor. You can reach him at eight hundred

1668
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 1: four five zero seventy eight to seventy six. We'll take

1669
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,759
Speaker 1: your phone calls after the traffic and weather that's next,

1670
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family, thanks for rolling with us on

1671
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 1: this Thursday morning with our Guess the Prison Doctor moment

1672
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:20,280
Speaker 1: Telo're gonna speak with brother ashra Quasi chematologists and also

1673
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 1: an offer. But right now, prison doctor Rick and Laws

1674
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 1: I mentioned before we left for the traffic update, has

1675
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,599
Speaker 1: a question for you. He's online one grand rising. Rick.

1676
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 1: You're on with the prison doctor. Is Rick there in Laurel?

1677
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:34,599
Speaker 14: Can you hear me?

1678
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1679
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 1: I can hear now?

1680
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 14: Go ahead, Rick, sure in morning time? Look ahead? Uh

1681
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:46,520
Speaker 14: mister doctor prison, Uh, pretty quick question if it's okay?

1682
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:47,719
Speaker 14: How old are you brother?

1683
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 3: Fifty eight?

1684
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 14: Fifty eight? Okay?

1685
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 3: Uh?

1686
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 14: Were you reaching out for your father for you to

1687
01:30:56,439 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 14: go do arm robbery?

1688
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to say that again.

1689
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,559
Speaker 14: Okay when you said you did, I'm robber and you

1690
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 14: did a stand in prison? Right? Okay? Now, you pretty

1691
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 14: much you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth.

1692
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 14: Your father was very famous and he wasn't around most

1693
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 14: of the time. From what I gather what you was saying,

1694
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:19,599
Speaker 14: So were you, like, was that a cry for help?

1695
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:21,639
Speaker 14: You know that you was reaching out for him?

1696
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 3: You know it very well could be. To be honest,

1697
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 3: there was a lot of things going on, man. I

1698
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 3: was you know, it's very spoiled. Like I said, growing man,

1699
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 3: I was the only kid in the studios with dad,

1700
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 3: and you know, but when he wasn't there, you know,

1701
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:40,640
Speaker 3: of course it affected me greatly, you know, but you

1702
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,559
Speaker 3: know environment, you know, even though I'm I was kind

1703
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:45,720
Speaker 3: of spoiled, bro, I'm still from the hood. You know,

1704
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 3: I'm from the west side of Detroit, you know what

1705
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:48,800
Speaker 3: I mean. So I grew up, you know, in the

1706
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 3: hood dad, you know, back then, you know, fifty thousand

1707
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,200
Speaker 3: dollars home. You know, you was going somewhere, and so

1708
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 3: you know, I'm still in the hood. But you know,

1709
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 3: my dad was very famous, So my environment played a

1710
01:31:58,200 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 3: role as well.

1711
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,320
Speaker 14: Okay, I got you, my man, So were you Did

1712
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 14: you ever use drugs?

1713
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 3: Never in my life, not one time. Never, Never had

1714
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 3: a drug or alcohol problem in my life.

1715
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 8: Okay.

1716
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 14: So I was just listening to the last thing you said.

1717
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 14: When somebody asked a question. I don't know what the

1718
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 14: question was about. When you say you don't get your

1719
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 14: family involved. I thought maybe they was asking is your

1720
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 14: family proud of you now? And you was like, I missed,

1721
01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 14: maybe I misunderstood the question because I'm like, it's never

1722
01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 14: hard to far as you know, if somebody asked me

1723
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 14: about my family. If I'm doing positive work. That would

1724
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 14: never be a problem me to answer how my family

1725
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 14: thinks about what I'm doing. Now, if that's a little

1726
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 14: personal for you, I don't understand how that's personal. But

1727
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:44,600
Speaker 14: I mean everybody has their own little thought when it

1728
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 14: comes down to their family. But my brother, yeah, I

1729
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 14: got you, I know, said again, yeah, I can.

1730
01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 3: I can answer that for you. You know, I can answer

1731
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 3: that for you. Know that he was asking me about

1732
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 3: my children or wife, or how things are working, if

1733
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 3: I have children and things like that. Right, So, because

1734
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 3: the work that I do is very dangerous work, and

1735
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 3: I have people that have threatened my life. People have

1736
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 3: literally threatened to annihilate my family and I should be killed,

1737
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,600
Speaker 3: my board of directors and my team are very protective

1738
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 3: of any information about my personal life, my family because

1739
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 3: that is irrelevant to the fact of my effectiveness with

1740
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 3: helping children all around the world with our success rates.

1741
01:33:21,320 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 3: So it's a protective measure, right. It's just like you know,

1742
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:26,320
Speaker 3: when somebody's threatening to kill your family, they're looking for

1743
01:33:26,360 --> 01:33:29,280
Speaker 3: any information to piece together where you live, who you are.

1744
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:31,679
Speaker 3: If you have a child, then your child gets threatened,

1745
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 3: which is why I don't post any pictures of my

1746
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 3: family on any social media right, whether it's my mother, cousin,

1747
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:40,639
Speaker 3: uncle Ray Ray, nothing. I don't do that, right because

1748
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 3: that's not my calling. Yes, so my calling is my

1749
01:33:43,439 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 3: first responsibility as a man is to protect those that

1750
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 3: are closest to me, right, and I do that very seriously.

1751
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 3: I take that seriously, you know. So that's why I

1752
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:54,519
Speaker 3: don't discuss personal like that. I only discuss the children,

1753
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:55,639
Speaker 3: the work that I do with.

1754
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 11: Them, right a.

1755
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,840
Speaker 14: Pretty much thanks to man. I really appreciate that. But

1756
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:03,639
Speaker 14: I was just a little you know, taking it back

1757
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 14: about it. You know the response you know about as

1758
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 14: far as the family, but everything you said first, you're

1759
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:11,920
Speaker 14: raising your children. You wish the system.

1760
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:12,200
Speaker 10: Would take me.

1761
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 14: I ain't nowhere in the world. I'm old school and

1762
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,880
Speaker 14: I agree with you one hundred percent and masculinity always.

1763
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:20,880
Speaker 14: But yeah, so you keep up the good fight, my brother,

1764
01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 14: And like I said, yeah, I understand how it is

1765
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,000
Speaker 14: when you miss your father and you want to put

1766
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:27,479
Speaker 14: it out. I mean, my father wasn't in my life.

1767
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 15: I grew up in the hood, Southeast. Everybody knows South Southeast.

1768
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 15: And but again I'm six years old, sixty six years old.

1769
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 15: Brother never did drugs, but at the same token. I

1770
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 15: never went to prison. I'm proud to say that and

1771
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 15: never going there my children. Man, look keep up the

1772
01:34:44,960 --> 01:34:47,000
Speaker 15: good work, brother. I was just a little taken aback

1773
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,479
Speaker 15: by the response far as the family got you.

1774
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 3: Love you, You're okay, brother, and thank you for your support.

1775
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:53,080
Speaker 3: Thank you for the question.

1776
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 1: And but you you know I'm prison, Ductie. You look

1777
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 1: at it another way. Because of your success. That's why

1778
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 1: people are coming after you. If you were successful, they

1779
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 1: wouldn't they wouldn't try to attack he try to. You've

1780
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 1: got so many followers on social media, they wouldn't be

1781
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:09,080
Speaker 1: trying to attack it if you if you weren't a success.

1782
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,879
Speaker 3: Man, Carl. Do you know I had a guy recently

1783
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:16,719
Speaker 3: say not to me, right, but he told his wife

1784
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 3: and again it's not about race, right, But I have

1785
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 3: to say this because this is real life stuff, right

1786
01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:27,800
Speaker 3: this this this is a white guy. We helped his son.

1787
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 3: He didn't want to knowledge that his son was hurting

1788
01:35:30,840 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 3: other children and peeping tom looking through this window. We

1789
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 3: discovered uh porn, child porn in this boy's phone, and

1790
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 3: we reported it to the proper authorities because I'm a

1791
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 3: mandated reporter. Well, the father doesn't live in the home

1792
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 3: with the mother. He lives, like in the area. So

1793
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 3: when he found this in when we you know, told

1794
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:48,920
Speaker 3: him about what we discovered in his child's phone, he

1795
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 3: didn't want to. He didn't want to admit it. He

1796
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 3: didn't want to look at the phone. He didn't want to,

1797
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:53,760
Speaker 3: you know, say you know how he feel as a father.

1798
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,640
Speaker 3: But when we left, right we found out that he

1799
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 3: actually says, now I got to kill three n I

1800
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 3: g G. You know what I mean. So now I

1801
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 3: gotta go kill three you know what I mean. So

1802
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 3: we get these kind of racist death threats because sometimes

1803
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 3: people don't like seeing an African American, you know, building

1804
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:11,840
Speaker 3: or yelling at or mentoring you know, a white child.

1805
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 3: You know, And that's just reality. It's not all Most

1806
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 3: of my my friends that I have to support me

1807
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 3: and love me and children I've helped I white, you

1808
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I bought the directors, I mean

1809
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 3: a lot of people. But I'm not gonna sit here

1810
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 3: and act like that. I have not dealt with the

1811
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 3: other side of racism where that comes from. But you know,

1812
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:30,479
Speaker 3: to flip it, you know, I even deal with that

1813
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 3: for my own black you know, black people, well, I've

1814
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 3: gotten death threats from black people, you know, just talking

1815
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:37,680
Speaker 3: about me. I, you know, need to blow your brains out.

1816
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:39,240
Speaker 3: Who are you to be coming coming my home like that?

1817
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do something to you know. All that kind

1818
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:43,639
Speaker 3: of crab you know doesn't phase us one bit. But

1819
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 3: but the racism, the threats of killing and hurting is

1820
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 3: real on my side. But we don't feel that crab

1821
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:51,720
Speaker 3: because we know who's backing. Gods won. And also if

1822
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 3: you bring it, better believe something is coming at you.

1823
01:36:55,040 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 1: All right. Eight after top I, next guess is Brother

1824
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 1: astra Quacy. One of the things that Brother Quasi just

1825
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 1: about is know thy shelf. That's one of the things

1826
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 1: he talks about, and he basically says, if these young

1827
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,040
Speaker 1: people knew who they are, and we're talking about black

1828
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 1: anxios now, if they knew where they came from, not

1829
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 1: they just wanted to hear a slave, so pride before

1830
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 1: that and keem it. If they wouldn't been doing crazy stuff.

1831
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 1: If they knew really who they are, their bloodline. If

1832
01:37:21,479 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 1: they knew that is do you teach that or is

1833
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:25,680
Speaker 1: that you don't use that technique?

1834
01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 3: That is very true. If people knew who they are

1835
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:33,200
Speaker 3: knew who they were. Yeah, the outcomes in life would

1836
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 3: be a lot different people. This is why our children

1837
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 3: wake up one day that this way and wake up

1838
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 3: the next day that that way. They dress one way

1839
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 3: one minute, next moment they're dressed in some other kind

1840
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 3: of way. They're they're in an identity crisis. So the

1841
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,840
Speaker 3: Brother's absolutely correct. We don't know who we are. You know,

1842
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:51,680
Speaker 3: our culture, our language are you know, a lot of

1843
01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 3: things have been stripped from us, you know, and we

1844
01:37:54,479 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 3: don't know. We don't know much about ourselves, and we

1845
01:37:56,920 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 3: need that connection. Right. It's not a it's not a

1846
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 3: racial thing, right, It's a needed thing, you know what

1847
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 3: I'm saying. So you know, you need you know, our

1848
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:06,120
Speaker 3: children need to understand where they came from. They need

1849
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:09,080
Speaker 3: to understand, you know, the powers that lie within them.

1850
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 3: They need to understand the greater is he that is

1851
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 3: in you than he that is in the world. They

1852
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 3: need to understand that. They need to understand what what

1853
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 3: what they're you know, who their fathers and forefathers were,

1854
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 3: the greatness of our culture, you know, the things that

1855
01:38:20,840 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 3: we've created and discovered, you know, those things should not

1856
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 3: be hidden from them. You know, I think that would

1857
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 3: make them better and it'll make this world a better place.

1858
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,400
Speaker 1: A shay to that. Listen before we let you go.

1859
01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:34,640
Speaker 1: How can folks reach you if they have especially if

1860
01:38:34,640 --> 01:38:36,680
Speaker 1: they've got some children at home that are, you know,

1861
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 1: causing problems that they don't how to solve those problems?

1862
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 1: How can I get in touch with you?

1863
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 3: Thank you, Carol, Well you can reach us. We're calling

1864
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 3: one eight hundred. Please take this number down all the

1865
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 3: Qui Nation one eight hundred three six nine eight nine

1866
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 3: three two one eight hundred six nine eight nine three two,

1867
01:38:56,120 --> 01:39:00,000
Speaker 3: or go to our website at www dot the Prize

1868
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 3: drs and Doctor the prisondr dot org all right, or

1869
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:07,599
Speaker 3: you could go to my Instagram at the Prison Dr.

1870
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:11,560
Speaker 3: If you're following TikTok and says anything other than official

1871
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 3: prison Dr, then you're not following me. So Instagram is

1872
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 3: just the prison Dr. TikTok is official prison DR. And

1873
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 3: YouTube the Prison DR. You know what I mean. So,

1874
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:25,679
Speaker 3: but just call in. If you guys know anybody struggling

1875
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 3: in your communities and your neighborhoods anywhere in the in

1876
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:31,240
Speaker 3: the country, call that number, get in touch with us,

1877
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:33,719
Speaker 3: and I guarantee you that they'll thank you later.

1878
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:38,240
Speaker 1: Thanks all right, thank you great, thank.

1879
01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 3: You and thank you Carl, Thank you, Thank listen. We've

1880
01:39:41,439 --> 01:39:42,760
Speaker 3: my team done our research on you.

1881
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:43,120
Speaker 4: Carl.

1882
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 3: You are heavy here. You've done a lot of great

1883
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 3: things for for for people, black people, children. You are

1884
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 3: a legend yourself. I cannot get off the air without

1885
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 3: acknowledging that, my brother, you are. You are a beautiful

1886
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 3: brother man and the world is lucky to have you.

1887
01:39:57,160 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 3: And I'm not just saying that, I mean it.

1888
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:01,519
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for the kind West. But you're too

1889
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:04,639
Speaker 1: You're working with our people. You're right there in the field,

1890
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:06,720
Speaker 1: working with our youngster. Youngster. So I want to thank

1891
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:08,840
Speaker 1: you for all the work you've done. And you know,

1892
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:10,880
Speaker 1: keep it up and we'll talk some more.

1893
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 3: Thank you, my brother, have a great time, all.

1894
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 1: Right, family, that's the prison doctor eleven after the top

1895
01:40:17,479 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 1: of they all, and so Hotep to our next guest,

1896
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,639
Speaker 1: him to be brother ashra Quasi, Brother ashra Qacy Hotel.

1897
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the program.

1898
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 16: Hotep, Brother Karl and Hotel piece to a prison doctor

1899
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:30,600
Speaker 16: who is very interesting the information he was given as

1900
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:34,479
Speaker 16: a day on this African comm University radio show. Carl Nelson.

1901
01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what because I always tell people, Yeah,

1902
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 1: I always tell people what you teach us the brother

1903
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 1: quasi you know that know thyself? That's part of where

1904
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 1: did that come from? Because you you know when people say,

1905
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:48,040
Speaker 1: and I'll tell people that if the young people are

1906
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 1: acting up and going crazy, if they knew who they were,

1907
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 1: what they came from, they knew their history, they wouldn't

1908
01:40:54,160 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be doing anything sort of negative behavior. How

1909
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:00,759
Speaker 1: did you how did you reach out know thyself?

1910
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 16: Well, we have to go back to our ancestors and

1911
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:05,360
Speaker 16: going back to the books in stone and going back

1912
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 16: to the books in stones, I have to go back

1913
01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:10,840
Speaker 16: to the Burdet. Okay, the vedet is the sun diss

1914
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 16: wing just over all the temples before you go into

1915
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:17,080
Speaker 16: the temple, and it represented several several things, okay, good

1916
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 16: over evil, protection as well as knowing thyself. And and

1917
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 16: of course when our children get it in the classroom,

1918
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 16: we are told that we hear that term know thyself,

1919
01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 16: we are told the Socrates is the one that brought

1920
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 16: that to the world, when in fact Socrates stole that concept,

1921
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 16: ain't af from ancient Chemi which is now called Egypt today.

1922
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 16: So knowing ourselves is knowing our ancestral self, not only

1923
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:43,599
Speaker 16: an individual self, but going back into our great history,

1924
01:41:43,640 --> 01:41:45,600
Speaker 16: going back and taking the longest journey. And that's the

1925
01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 16: journey into ourselves to know ourselves, to know who we

1926
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:51,519
Speaker 16: are as an African people, to know who we are,

1927
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 16: our ancestors are, and the great history of who we are.

1928
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 16: So that's why you know, we us know thyself for

1929
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:01,719
Speaker 16: our educational tour when we go on and taking brothers

1930
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 16: and sisters back who we've seen great things out of

1931
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:08,640
Speaker 16: many brothers and sisters who've made that trip back to

1932
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 16: Kimmid and in fact, using myself as an example, and

1933
01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:14,640
Speaker 16: I made the first journey with doctor Ben back in

1934
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:17,719
Speaker 16: nineteen eighty one. I didn't know I would spend fourteen

1935
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,679
Speaker 16: years apprenticeship under him, and I didn't know I'd now

1936
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:24,559
Speaker 16: forty three years non stop, which exception of COVID returning back.

1937
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 16: So we all have a genius within us, brother Carl,

1938
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:29,559
Speaker 16: and you gotta excuse me. You know, I've been flying

1939
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:31,639
Speaker 16: a lot and got a cold and trying to suppress

1940
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:36,240
Speaker 16: a coffin cold here. But anyway, you know we could

1941
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 16: be turning back there to the now valley, and not

1942
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:41,599
Speaker 16: only to Kimmit, but other parts of the African continent,

1943
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:44,960
Speaker 16: our ancestors left a great history, okay, and a great

1944
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:47,960
Speaker 16: story going back thousands of years. And keep in mind

1945
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 16: the brain control and the mental and psychological enslavement is

1946
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 16: to keep us away from Africa. In fact, considering that

1947
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 16: this is Black History Month, I got to honor Carter G. Woodson,

1948
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 16: who my favorite quote by him in Miseducation as Digro.

1949
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 16: If the people have no history, if they have no

1950
01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:11,920
Speaker 16: work while tradition, it becomes a negligible thought in the

1951
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 16: world that stands in the danger of being exterminated. So

1952
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 16: this is the importance of us knowing ourselves and educating

1953
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,720
Speaker 16: our children and our people about who we are as

1954
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 16: an African people. And my Black History Month started off

1955
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:30,000
Speaker 16: with going back to all the way back into one

1956
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 16: of the earliest cultures only to the African continent, that's

1957
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:35,719
Speaker 16: to the Omo Valley. Returning back to my first time.

1958
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 16: The last time I was there was actually twenty years ago,

1959
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:43,639
Speaker 16: back in twenty oh six. And in fact, giving respect

1960
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 16: to again back to doctor Ben my teacher who I

1961
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 16: first started traveling to Ethiopia with him back in nineteen

1962
01:43:49,560 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 16: eighty three. Even though we did not go to the

1963
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:54,320
Speaker 16: Omo Valley. We went to the historical route, which is

1964
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 16: the northern part I mean Ethiopia. The history is so vast,

1965
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:00,919
Speaker 16: I mean you're covering so much areas of the history

1966
01:44:02,720 --> 01:44:05,719
Speaker 16: as well as the culture. But the Omo Valley. What's

1967
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 16: important about this is because it's an area that's pretty

1968
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 16: for the most part, it's been untouched, okay, by the

1969
01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:14,760
Speaker 16: Western world, even though now it is slowly becoming contaminated

1970
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 16: by the Western world, where the people are slowly starting

1971
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:22,920
Speaker 16: to take in and simulate into the Western culture. And

1972
01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:27,920
Speaker 16: that's due to again the same missionaries who have came

1973
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:30,320
Speaker 16: in and contaminated a lot of Africa is still going

1974
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:34,840
Speaker 16: on today. And also the government giving up their land

1975
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:40,640
Speaker 16: to foreigners okay, and creating plantations okay, for them to

1976
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:46,760
Speaker 16: grow banana crops, and having them work on these plantations,

1977
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:49,960
Speaker 16: just like we were enslaved on the plantations here in America.

1978
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:51,719
Speaker 16: So the same thing is going on with them today.

1979
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 16: But my trip there twenty oh six, I appeared that

1980
01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:59,719
Speaker 16: I was in much more remote areas. But even though

1981
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 16: some of the people I visit, like the Hammer people

1982
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:07,600
Speaker 16: are known as the Hammer and also the mousy you

1983
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 16: may have seen the lip plates, okay, of the mousy

1984
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:11,800
Speaker 16: you may have seen some of the people. Now, keep

1985
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 16: in mind that we're looking at a culture that's going

1986
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 16: back thousands of years, okay, a culture that Europeans okay,

1987
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 16: had nothing to do with our world. When we look

1988
01:45:21,880 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 16: at our world all around us, Okay, everything that we see,

1989
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:28,440
Speaker 16: we see a European world or something that the Europeans

1990
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:31,559
Speaker 16: have done. Even though our ancestors have created a lot

1991
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 16: and it's still there, and even though Africa talks to

1992
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 16: us all the time. Once we know the signs and

1993
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 16: symbols all around us, and even though Black history mutt,

1994
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:43,280
Speaker 16: and we know that the stop like Garb Morgan and

1995
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 16: many other inventions that we created. But for the most part,

1996
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:50,679
Speaker 16: our world around us and the clothes that we wear

1997
01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:55,760
Speaker 16: and everything that we do pretty much is coming excuse me,

1998
01:45:56,439 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 16: it's coming from the Western world. Whereas their world it's

1999
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 16: totally free, totally free of that, and they've been able

2000
01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 16: to maintain for thousands of years, and to the point

2001
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:11,920
Speaker 16: where even you ESCO, which is the United Nations Education

2002
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:15,439
Speaker 16: and Scientific and Cultural organization, you know, trying to preserve

2003
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:19,640
Speaker 16: the culture. And why are they trying to preserve the

2004
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 16: culture because there's so many things that we can still

2005
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:25,840
Speaker 16: learn from them. Keep in mind that their world, they

2006
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:28,960
Speaker 16: lived in the natural world with life itself.

2007
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 8: Okay.

2008
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 16: One, When we look around, are we living in the

2009
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 16: natural world?

2010
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 8: Okay?

2011
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 16: We have to depend on the grocery stores to feed us.

2012
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 16: When we look at the Olmo Valley and we see

2013
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:45,559
Speaker 16: the tuculs, okay, the tucules that most people are familiar

2014
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:47,559
Speaker 16: about the terms of so called huts.

2015
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:50,519
Speaker 1: Okay, right and hold up though, right there, brother, question

2016
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 1: you we gotta step aside for a few moments. I'll

2017
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,400
Speaker 1: let you respond to that when we get back. Eight

2018
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:56,799
Speaker 1: hundred and four or five zero seventy eight to seventy

2019
01:46:56,800 --> 01:46:59,000
Speaker 1: six speaks to Ashwa. Question. He's taking us to the

2020
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:03,040
Speaker 1: Omo Valley in Ethiopia, and also later on it's going

2021
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 1: to talk about the African origin of freemasonry. You want

2022
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 1: to hear this conversation. Hit us up at eight hundred

2023
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:11,639
Speaker 1: four five zero seventy eight seventy six and we take

2024
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 1: phone calls next and grand rising family in facts, just

2025
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 1: staying with us on this Slursday morning with our guess

2026
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 1: the master teacher Ashwa Kosi is in the house. You

2027
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 1: like to reach and speak of a question for brother

2028
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:24,599
Speaker 1: Quasi reach out to us at eight hundred four five

2029
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:27,720
Speaker 1: zero seventy eight seventy six, brother question, I'm actually you're

2030
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:30,080
Speaker 1: telling us, continue to tell us about the Omo Valley

2031
01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 1: in Ethiopia and how much has it changed, how much

2032
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:34,320
Speaker 1: has it been modernized.

2033
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:38,439
Speaker 16: Well, like I said before, Carl in twenty oh six,

2034
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:42,120
Speaker 16: you know, I didn't see a lot of the assimulation,

2035
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 16: and as return back this time, I'm starting to see,

2036
01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 16: you know, some of the changes. You know, keep in

2037
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:50,959
Speaker 16: mind all the clothes of people where it's made by them.

2038
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:52,799
Speaker 8: But you know, you're.

2039
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 16: Starting to slowly start to see changes. And some of

2040
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:59,759
Speaker 16: these changes are due to the government. The government literally

2041
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 16: or taking away their land okay, and there's uh leasing

2042
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 16: that land out to foreigners okay, Italians and Asians and

2043
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:14,120
Speaker 16: the Arabs okay to grow banana plantations okay. So and

2044
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 16: in that process, uh they're forced to work on those

2045
01:48:18,160 --> 01:48:21,599
Speaker 16: plantations and uh and in the factory. So in that

2046
01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 16: process it's going to destroy uh their culture, you know,

2047
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 16: once that takes place. So I'm still slowly starting to see.

2048
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 16: When I came there, I slowly started to see, you know,

2049
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:33,439
Speaker 16: the various changes and different things that took place, uh,

2050
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:36,120
Speaker 16: But keep in mind that the the culture that we

2051
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:37,760
Speaker 16: when we used to look at the Omo Valley among

2052
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:40,120
Speaker 16: the hammer and the Mussi and the various groups in

2053
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 16: the coral, and these are all different. They're all different

2054
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 16: groups and I all have all different culture and even language,

2055
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:48,200
Speaker 16: all right. And we had to drive, you know, quite

2056
01:48:48,240 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 16: a few distance to each group of brothers and sisters

2057
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:55,960
Speaker 16: who are who lived there. But the important thing is

2058
01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:58,599
Speaker 16: is that keep in mind even though the leakys who

2059
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:01,639
Speaker 16: uh has always they let it leak out that Africa,

2060
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:06,439
Speaker 16: that beginning started in Africa, and during the book Adobe

2061
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 16: Gorge when they were doing that research. But it's there

2062
01:49:10,280 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 16: that you find some of the oldest fossil remains as well.

2063
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 16: In the Omo Valley, okay, we know about also the

2064
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:20,160
Speaker 16: Hadar Valley. We know about Dick and nish okay three

2065
01:49:20,160 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 16: point one million years all right. Even though she was

2066
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:27,960
Speaker 16: a homand a home in ned not quite a homo

2067
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:31,160
Speaker 16: sapien sapient like us, but she was in that in

2068
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:34,679
Speaker 16: that process of evolution of becoming a homo sapien sapient.

2069
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:36,960
Speaker 16: But that was found right there on the African continent.

2070
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 16: So nowhere in the world. Are you're going to find

2071
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 16: the oldest culture, the oldest people, the oldest fossil remains

2072
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:48,640
Speaker 16: validating that it all started in Africa. Now keep in

2073
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:52,639
Speaker 16: mind that even though you know anthropology and paleontology and

2074
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:56,080
Speaker 16: all the other ologies that they have have validated that

2075
01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 16: it all started in Africa, but even though they still

2076
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:02,479
Speaker 16: try to main that it did not start in Africa,

2077
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:06,240
Speaker 16: or trying to create in their own racism, a polygenetic

2078
01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 16: origin or everybody just sprang up simultaneously and not wanted

2079
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 16: to deal with that monogenetic meaning that one origin is

2080
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:17,760
Speaker 16: started in Africa. And as National Geographics said, every time

2081
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 16: they kick over rock in Africa, they have to rewrite

2082
01:50:19,920 --> 01:50:24,600
Speaker 16: the textbooks. And in fact, even in anthropology and Chadensius

2083
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 16: where they found another fossil seven million years all right,

2084
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:30,960
Speaker 16: so that holiday's National Geographics and every time they kick

2085
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:34,639
Speaker 16: over rock they have to rewrite the textbooks. But back

2086
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:37,680
Speaker 16: to the Olmo Valley was important. And what I was

2087
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:39,799
Speaker 16: able to do when I was there in two thousand

2088
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:42,679
Speaker 16: and six and also observed when I was just recently there,

2089
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 16: just got back a couple of weeks ago, is that

2090
01:50:46,479 --> 01:50:49,439
Speaker 16: how when we look at the culture of the now Valley,

2091
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:53,679
Speaker 16: and we can see how the culture was carried down

2092
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,519
Speaker 16: the now. We can see the various things and the

2093
01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 16: signs and the symbols, and how the med dou netsure

2094
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:02,880
Speaker 16: was created. And this is so important for us to

2095
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:07,360
Speaker 16: know this and to get into Africa, not totally depending

2096
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:13,120
Speaker 16: on the European anthropologists and paleontologists and all the others

2097
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 16: who are out there, but for some of our people

2098
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 16: to get into this, because I mean, we have great

2099
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 16: young minds. Unfortunately, those young minds are being drained through

2100
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 16: madness and what I'm mean by through madness by taking

2101
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:29,560
Speaker 16: them to outer space, to estraterrestrials built the pyramids and

2102
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:32,599
Speaker 16: all this kind of thing. Whereas if you go back

2103
01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:36,439
Speaker 16: through the Filopian tube, and I speak of the Flopian tube,

2104
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 16: I'm speaking of the now that four thousand of proxy,

2105
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:42,080
Speaker 16: two hundred miles of an Now, we're countless thousands of

2106
01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:46,559
Speaker 16: years our ancestors from their empirical observation of everything that

2107
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:49,439
Speaker 16: they observed around them. Just like as I was talking

2108
01:51:49,479 --> 01:51:51,640
Speaker 16: about the Omo Valley, you can see the beauty of

2109
01:51:51,680 --> 01:51:53,800
Speaker 16: the culture. You can see they live with life, They

2110
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:57,200
Speaker 16: live with the natural life. We live in these dwellings

2111
01:51:57,240 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 16: called houses and so forth, okay, and pretty much don't

2112
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:04,600
Speaker 16: even go outside a whole lot to even get the

2113
01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 16: sunlight to get the vitamin D, all right, and increase

2114
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 16: our melany. But they live naturally with the sun, okay.

2115
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:18,080
Speaker 16: So by thousands of years of observing various things, okay,

2116
01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:20,920
Speaker 16: and by them been able to be in touch with

2117
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 16: muttin netschet as ancient kmmt with colleges we would call

2118
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 16: mother Nature. Today they are more in tune and understanding

2119
01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:32,240
Speaker 16: those spiritual natural forces, all right, that divine force of

2120
01:52:32,240 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 16: the universe. Okay. They are more touched by that divine

2121
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:41,439
Speaker 16: force that we may refer to in many names as God.

2122
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 16: Today the ancestors referred to as many names as whether

2123
01:52:45,080 --> 01:52:49,559
Speaker 16: it be Amen or the Marai Patah, that divine force

2124
01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 16: of the universe. But in fact, even speaking of that,

2125
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 16: that the first idea of a spiritual force in the

2126
01:52:56,960 --> 01:53:00,559
Speaker 16: universe are coming from our ancestors who have deserved these

2127
01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:04,439
Speaker 16: natural forces. The Western world knew nothing about even God

2128
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:07,760
Speaker 16: or even in touch with these natural forces, especially when

2129
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Speaker 16: you're living in a place in caves and during the

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01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:15,759
Speaker 16: ice age. But keep in mind, this is the sun belt,

2131
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:20,960
Speaker 16: and by observing these natural forces, we can see how

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01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 16: ancient cush okay and how ancient Kimmt as well as

2133
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:29,160
Speaker 16: other great civilizations in Africa developed. All right, once we

2134
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 16: go back and observe the various signs and symbols that

2135
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:34,920
Speaker 16: we see all around them. For instance, when we look

2136
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:38,200
Speaker 16: at again many of the Omo Valley culture to being

2137
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:42,400
Speaker 16: a pastorist people cattle raising, and even though before them

2138
01:53:42,439 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 16: there were the hunters and gatherers okay, who are even

2139
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:45,280
Speaker 16: older than them.

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Speaker 11: And let's not.

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01:53:46,439 --> 01:53:50,120
Speaker 16: Forget to out thetroi okay that the Europeans called the

2142
01:53:50,120 --> 01:53:54,680
Speaker 16: oratory named pigmies. Right, some of the earliest people, all right,

2143
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:59,000
Speaker 16: that ancient Kimmot always observed them. All right. When you

2144
01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:01,519
Speaker 16: go to Kimmitt and you see on the temples and

2145
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 16: on the monuments, and I make sure that I point

2146
01:54:04,560 --> 01:54:07,400
Speaker 16: that out to all the temples, not the walk in

2147
01:54:07,439 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 16: there and observed it on top of those lotus columns,

2148
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:12,680
Speaker 16: you see that little tah. Why did they put the

2149
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 16: LITTTOI up there? All right? They understood their beginning, they

2150
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 16: understood where they came from, They understood the spirit land.

2151
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:22,439
Speaker 16: They understood they called the Koi land the spirit land,

2152
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:25,320
Speaker 16: all right, they understood, as they also referred to as

2153
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:28,880
Speaker 16: the totetter Land, the real holy land, all right, coming

2154
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:31,719
Speaker 16: from that beginning of that great Lakes region. Here they understood,

2155
01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:34,360
Speaker 16: so they put the twah on top of a lotus column.

2156
01:54:34,720 --> 01:54:37,720
Speaker 16: Now we know a lotus represents again birth, the beginning,

2157
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 16: So they left signs and symbols, as a European named

2158
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:45,160
Speaker 16: Churchward who even wrote a book called Signs and Symbols,

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01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:49,040
Speaker 16: a primordial man, all right, and being the primordial man,

2160
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:51,160
Speaker 16: that would be the Omo Valley, that would be the

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01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:55,040
Speaker 16: beginning of this early culture in the now valley. And

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01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:57,879
Speaker 16: there you see the twah on top of the lotus

2163
01:54:57,880 --> 01:55:02,520
Speaker 16: columns representing birth present. So they understood that beginning. But

2164
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 16: we're not going to get that interpretation from racist anthropologists

2165
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:11,360
Speaker 16: that they have brought down their own psychopathic racism to

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01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 16: to us and their interpretation when they start to do

2167
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 16: research and finds and and so forth. As we know

2168
01:55:17,880 --> 01:55:21,600
Speaker 16: that some of the anthropologists like Carl and as Ok

2169
01:55:22,240 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 16: who talked about some of the finds that that the

2170
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 16: early author put the scenes were lazy and and all

2171
01:55:30,440 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 16: all this negative. How does he know about the author

2172
01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:34,120
Speaker 16: put the scenes being lazy?

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01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:34,800
Speaker 8: All right?

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01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:36,920
Speaker 16: But These are some of the things that some of

2175
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 16: the Europeans and their interpretation when they come in and

2176
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 16: start to dig uh in in uh In Africa. But

2177
01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 16: the beauty that I observed in the Omo Valley and

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01:55:48,240 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 16: seeing the brothers and sisters and doing the comparative analysis

2179
01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 16: with the other culture that we're most familiar with, and

2180
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:59,360
Speaker 16: as push and kimid and during that comparison and as

2181
01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 16: I've done through lectures and showing how even the hairstyles

2182
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:04,400
Speaker 16: and the various things that you see. That was the

2183
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:06,680
Speaker 16: first thing I was shot by the first time I

2184
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:11,080
Speaker 16: went there, and even this time, and also some of

2185
01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:13,919
Speaker 16: the rights of initiations that were taking place, for instance,

2186
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:19,040
Speaker 16: the boo jumping. Our brother was on earlier talking about

2187
01:56:19,040 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 16: the children. Now here's the rights of initiation. All right,

2188
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:25,800
Speaker 16: this is their world, Okay, it's not controlled by Europeans.

2189
01:56:25,840 --> 01:56:28,120
Speaker 16: It's not something that came out of a European world.

2190
01:56:28,200 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 16: It's a culture that they have been doing for thousands

2191
01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:34,120
Speaker 16: of years and that is referring to it as bull jumping,

2192
01:56:34,120 --> 01:56:37,920
Speaker 16: and that's rights initiation into manhood. So what do we

2193
01:56:37,960 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 16: have Okay that we would have our rights initiation in

2194
01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 16: the manhood. Then that were contaminated okay by the Western world, okay,

2195
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:50,000
Speaker 16: and seeing that so many negative images okay, just portrayed

2196
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:54,360
Speaker 16: by us. As our brother was saying earlier the prison doctors,

2197
01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:58,560
Speaker 16: he was speaking of the images and representation of manhood

2198
01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 16: all right, of our youth, and speaking of these things

2199
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:04,560
Speaker 16: because of relating is to what he was saying, many

2200
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:07,800
Speaker 16: of these things are related to something negative coming from

2201
01:57:07,800 --> 01:57:13,120
Speaker 16: the television, or expressing your manhood by killing another brother

2202
01:57:13,320 --> 01:57:15,200
Speaker 16: or doing these types of things. But they have the

2203
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:18,440
Speaker 16: rights of initiation where they have to jump over the bulls,

2204
01:57:18,680 --> 01:57:22,200
Speaker 16: all right, I mean, I mean it's it's a serious uh,

2205
01:57:22,720 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 16: it's a serious display. As the brother, you know, I

2206
01:57:24,800 --> 01:57:26,920
Speaker 16: mean he has no clothes on, all right, I mean

2207
01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:30,160
Speaker 16: out there with mut netshed mother nature, and he has

2208
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:33,600
Speaker 16: to jump up on and jump over all these bulls

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01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 16: for rights initiation in the manhood. And even for him

2210
01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 16: to take a wife, all right, now, that's been going

2211
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:42,920
Speaker 16: on for thousands of years, all right, for them to

2212
01:57:43,040 --> 01:57:47,240
Speaker 16: have this h this type of initiation ceremony, and there's

2213
01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:49,800
Speaker 16: so much that of granted, you know, going there for

2214
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:52,440
Speaker 16: the twelve days that we were there, it's really not

2215
01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:56,600
Speaker 16: enough time. Okay, we get glimpses of different things, okay,

2216
01:57:56,600 --> 01:57:59,120
Speaker 16: and some of the things that I may connect with

2217
01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 16: when I see the culture in kimmt Uh that I

2218
01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 16: might grab right away, you know, Like I see like

2219
01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:10,960
Speaker 16: one group called the desh Neck people who wear leopard skins.

2220
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:11,280
Speaker 8: Okay.

2221
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:13,800
Speaker 16: So again, when you see the leopard skin, you automatically

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01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:16,320
Speaker 16: think of the sin priests in ancient Kimmot, you know.

2223
01:58:16,360 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 16: So you see flashes of the murals of ancient kimt

2224
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:21,960
Speaker 16: When you start to see the culture, you can see

2225
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:24,920
Speaker 16: how this culture was carried down the now that it

2226
01:58:24,960 --> 01:58:27,560
Speaker 16: was indigenous to the Now Valley. It was not external.

2227
01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 16: And that's one of the things that they have locked

2228
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:34,000
Speaker 16: our minds into that everything related to Africa it had

2229
01:58:34,040 --> 01:58:36,440
Speaker 16: to come from somewhere else that they have tried to

2230
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:40,440
Speaker 16: program in Western academia that it had it was not

2231
01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:43,280
Speaker 16: indigenous to the Now Valley. So when you look at

2232
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:46,000
Speaker 16: the culture of Africa, it's indigenous to the Now Valley.

2233
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:48,320
Speaker 16: Did not come from somewhere else. It was not brought

2234
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:52,600
Speaker 16: in and everything was built there and then the people left.

2235
01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:56,560
Speaker 16: But this is all part of the psychopathic racism, not

2236
01:58:56,640 --> 01:58:59,480
Speaker 16: to give Africa credit for the fact that you see

2237
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 16: the greatestation on the planet Earth and the miaments and

2238
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 16: temples are still there. So of course, coming into Inner Africa,

2239
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:09,960
Speaker 16: we can understand Kimid, we can understand ancient Coush. We

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01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:13,640
Speaker 16: can understand many of the other cultures okay, up and

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01:59:13,680 --> 01:59:15,920
Speaker 16: down the now as well as West Africa with the

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01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 16: yord of a culture. When we put it all together,

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01:59:19,120 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 16: and of course, like I said it, you know, we

2244
01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:25,560
Speaker 16: need we need to start to uh make those pilgrimages

2245
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:28,600
Speaker 16: back to Africa to study Africa, uh and not to

2246
01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:31,720
Speaker 16: depend on the madness that you know they got. Some

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01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:34,000
Speaker 16: of our young people were in today, brother Karl. So

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01:59:34,080 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 16: it was a it was a great experience, Okay. Returning back,

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01:59:37,640 --> 01:59:41,440
Speaker 16: I know it was a long period of time going

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Speaker 16: to the olmobiley and of course we we do our

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01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:46,960
Speaker 16: historical trip to Ethiopia.

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01:59:47,680 --> 01:59:47,800
Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:59:48,040 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 16: That's my wife and I. We we started that back

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01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:53,920
Speaker 16: in the early nineties, right And like I said before,

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01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:56,200
Speaker 16: I first started going in Theopia with doctor Ben back

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01:59:56,240 --> 01:59:58,120
Speaker 16: in the eighties and for ten years with him, and

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01:59:58,160 --> 01:59:59,560
Speaker 16: then my wife and I picked it up in the

2258
01:59:59,640 --> 02:00:04,320
Speaker 16: nineties up until twenty twenty when COVID came and then

2259
02:00:04,360 --> 02:00:08,040
Speaker 16: there was political instability, but we concentrated on the historical route.

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Speaker 16: That's what I was saying earlier. The history of Ethiopia

2261
02:00:11,840 --> 02:00:14,960
Speaker 16: is so vast that you can cover so many, so

2262
02:00:15,080 --> 02:00:18,640
Speaker 16: much that there's two separate trips within itself. Now, the

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02:00:18,680 --> 02:00:21,920
Speaker 16: Omo Valley, I select brothers to go on that trip,

2264
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:23,440
Speaker 16: but it's not over. I don't open it up for

2265
02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:27,920
Speaker 16: everybody because their mind has to be free, all right, Okay,

2266
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:31,720
Speaker 16: because they come to the Omo Valley. If you were

2267
02:00:31,800 --> 02:00:35,160
Speaker 16: judging the Omo Valley with the American backpack, then you

2268
02:00:35,200 --> 02:00:40,280
Speaker 16: can't see Africa, all right. What we have been programmed

2269
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:43,360
Speaker 16: with in our minds with the Europeans. That proved some

2270
02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:45,240
Speaker 16: of us, not all of us, but some of us

2271
02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:49,040
Speaker 16: that when we see the indigenous culture and we see

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02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:52,840
Speaker 16: the ancient culture, of looking at it as savages or

2273
02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:57,440
Speaker 16: heathens or all these negative terminologies, okay, that when we

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02:00:57,480 --> 02:01:01,920
Speaker 16: see something that different, all right, in mind, excuse me,

2275
02:01:01,960 --> 02:01:05,680
Speaker 16: brother Carl. Keep in mind, their world is pure, all right,

2276
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:10,440
Speaker 16: Their world is untouched. Their world is totally created by them,

2277
02:01:11,040 --> 02:01:12,080
Speaker 16: everything that they do.

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02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:12,680
Speaker 8: All right.

2279
02:01:13,240 --> 02:01:17,280
Speaker 16: Uh, we can't we can't say that, all right, because

2280
02:01:18,160 --> 02:01:23,200
Speaker 16: we are contaminated by this Western world. So that's why, uh,

2281
02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:25,960
Speaker 16: brothers that I think that can handle this trip. That

2282
02:01:26,040 --> 02:01:29,560
Speaker 16: I feel they are free enough and uh, their their

2283
02:01:29,600 --> 02:01:34,040
Speaker 16: minds are open enough to see the beauty of Africa, Okay,

2284
02:01:34,120 --> 02:01:36,640
Speaker 16: that they can go go there and see and and

2285
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:41,320
Speaker 16: also pull out many of the cultural things that we

2286
02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:43,960
Speaker 16: want to connect with the show that this was all

2287
02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:46,520
Speaker 16: part of our early early culture. I mean, where else

2288
02:01:46,520 --> 02:01:48,280
Speaker 16: can you go on the planet Earth, brother Karl, and

2289
02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:50,920
Speaker 16: go back so far? There's only very few places that

2290
02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:53,760
Speaker 16: you can do that. All right, we know Papua New Guinea,

2291
02:01:54,600 --> 02:01:59,600
Speaker 16: you see the early culture. These are again, uh, these

2292
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:02,640
Speaker 16: are Africans who migrated there thousands of years ago. No

2293
02:02:03,040 --> 02:02:06,720
Speaker 16: slave ships took them there, all right. Mend now the

2294
02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:10,960
Speaker 16: southern part of the Philippines, all right, also in the

2295
02:02:11,000 --> 02:02:14,240
Speaker 16: Amazon all right, again these are early These people got

2296
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:19,040
Speaker 16: there from early African migration thousands of years ago. When

2297
02:02:19,080 --> 02:02:21,360
Speaker 16: we go and think of anthropology and we think of

2298
02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:25,840
Speaker 16: those early Africans like Homo erectus, Okay, speaking from an

2299
02:02:25,880 --> 02:02:30,720
Speaker 16: anthropological point of view, these are some of the early Africans.

2300
02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:36,760
Speaker 16: Excuse my code. It started to migrate up out of Africa, Okay.

2301
02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:40,040
Speaker 16: It led into those early Grimaldis that migrated into Africa

2302
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:44,280
Speaker 16: and speaking of the anthropology, I got to speak of

2303
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:45,640
Speaker 16: doctor Schoe.

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Speaker 1: Hold us all right there, brother question, We've got to

2305
02:02:47,160 --> 02:02:48,880
Speaker 1: step aside for a few moments. I'll let you finish

2306
02:02:48,880 --> 02:02:50,200
Speaker 1: your thought, and then we got some folks want to

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02:02:50,200 --> 02:02:52,000
Speaker 1: talk to you as well. It's twenty three minutes away

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02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:54,160
Speaker 1: from the top day on family. The master teachers in

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02:02:54,200 --> 02:02:56,520
Speaker 1: the classroom. His name is Astrad question. You've probably heard

2310
02:02:56,560 --> 02:02:58,600
Speaker 1: about him. You got a question for him? Reach out

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02:02:58,680 --> 02:03:02,400
Speaker 1: to us at eight hundred five zero seventy eight seventy

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02:03:02,400 --> 02:03:04,800
Speaker 1: six and we'll take your phone calls next and grand

2313
02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:07,280
Speaker 1: Rising family, Thanks for sticking with us on this Thursday

2314
02:03:07,280 --> 02:03:09,640
Speaker 1: morning with our guests. The master teacher Astra Quasi in

2315
02:03:09,640 --> 02:03:12,120
Speaker 1: the classroom this morning and nineteen minutes away from the

2316
02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:14,120
Speaker 1: top of the hour. Before we go back to brother Quacy,

2317
02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:16,360
Speaker 1: let me just remind you Tomorrow's Friday. We're going to

2318
02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:18,240
Speaker 1: give you another chance to free your mind. All that

2319
02:03:18,280 --> 02:03:20,040
Speaker 1: means is to think for yourself and join us for

2320
02:03:20,080 --> 02:03:23,080
Speaker 1: our open Phone Friday program. We begin promptly at six

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Speaker 1: am Eastern time right here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB.

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02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:30,680
Speaker 1: Also in the DMV era on fourteen fifty WL. Brother, question,

2323
02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:32,000
Speaker 1: how let you finish your thought that we got some

2324
02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:35,200
Speaker 1: folks questions about the trip waiting for you as well.

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Speaker 16: Oh yeah, So I was to speak of our great

2326
02:03:38,680 --> 02:03:40,680
Speaker 16: Chad Jetty Pace be uparn him, may his spirit fly

2327
02:03:40,760 --> 02:03:43,840
Speaker 16: on the wings of our ancestors for eternity. And as

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02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:47,720
Speaker 16: doctor Charles Finch who wrote his book Echoes from the

2329
02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:52,600
Speaker 16: Old Black Land, and he talked about the origin of

2330
02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:56,400
Speaker 16: Africans coming up out of the Great Lakes regions of Africa.

2331
02:03:56,480 --> 02:04:02,040
Speaker 16: So I ended with speaking about him. So he recently

2332
02:04:02,040 --> 02:04:05,760
Speaker 16: made his transition, you know, flying on these airplanes and

2333
02:04:05,760 --> 02:04:08,040
Speaker 16: doing it. You know, there was about a fifteen hour

2334
02:04:08,120 --> 02:04:10,800
Speaker 16: flight coming back in about a fourteen hour going there,

2335
02:04:10,840 --> 02:04:12,920
Speaker 16: brother Carls, So you're breathing everything. And then when I

2336
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:15,080
Speaker 16: came back, I slid right into Black history mart they

2337
02:04:15,080 --> 02:04:17,760
Speaker 16: had to go out to California. So I'm sorry, confident

2338
02:04:18,280 --> 02:04:19,800
Speaker 16: and all that while I'm trying to talk to you.

2339
02:04:20,120 --> 02:04:22,440
Speaker 16: But one of the things that Omo Valley, one of

2340
02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:26,240
Speaker 16: the things that is causing a lot of issues with

2341
02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:29,840
Speaker 16: the culture, with this ancient culture in Omo Valley, is that,

2342
02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:33,280
Speaker 16: like a lot of other places in Africa, over the

2343
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:36,560
Speaker 16: building of these dams. So keep in mind is the

2344
02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:39,720
Speaker 16: Omo River. In fact, the Omo Valley culture is named

2345
02:04:39,720 --> 02:04:42,600
Speaker 16: after the river itself. It's that river that the people

2346
02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:47,560
Speaker 16: depend on, being a cattle raising people themselves and also

2347
02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:52,120
Speaker 16: agriculture depending on that river. That now the government is

2348
02:04:52,360 --> 02:04:56,520
Speaker 16: creating dams, okay, And by creating these dams, that's going

2349
02:04:56,560 --> 02:05:00,600
Speaker 16: to cause and has caused a lot of problems with

2350
02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:03,320
Speaker 16: the culture of these hydro electric dams that they're actually

2351
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:07,320
Speaker 16: creating and cutting off a lot of their land. And UH.

2352
02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:10,400
Speaker 16: Some of the people who coexisted with each other, like

2353
02:05:10,440 --> 02:05:13,640
Speaker 16: the Hammer and the Mussi and the Caro and and

2354
02:05:13,680 --> 02:05:17,160
Speaker 16: the Ari and the Binu, people who co existed together

2355
02:05:17,280 --> 02:05:20,640
Speaker 16: in some Now in some cases you're having in fighting

2356
02:05:20,840 --> 02:05:23,920
Speaker 16: now because of the little land that they have left

2357
02:05:23,920 --> 02:05:26,160
Speaker 16: over that the government has taken and turned it into

2358
02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:30,160
Speaker 16: creating the dams and also leasing it out to UH

2359
02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:33,880
Speaker 16: to other countries all right, like the Italians, I mean

2360
02:05:33,960 --> 02:05:36,280
Speaker 16: of all of all people who came in and invaded

2361
02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:40,040
Speaker 16: Ethiopia thanks to Mantel like the second he was able

2362
02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:43,280
Speaker 16: to defeat the Italians at that time. But now the

2363
02:05:43,360 --> 02:05:47,840
Speaker 16: Italians are there and creating a massive plantations and UH,

2364
02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:50,040
Speaker 16: and also the creating of these dams just like the

2365
02:05:50,040 --> 02:05:53,600
Speaker 16: same dam that we have the kutch Bar and Uh

2366
02:05:54,200 --> 02:05:57,520
Speaker 16: it was in the Al Sharik in the Sudan. Those

2367
02:05:57,640 --> 02:06:01,200
Speaker 16: dams will will will cause the little destruction of over

2368
02:06:01,240 --> 02:06:05,040
Speaker 16: two hundred pyramids. And for the most part, you know,

2369
02:06:05,120 --> 02:06:07,360
Speaker 16: many of our people are totally oblivious to the ancient

2370
02:06:07,360 --> 02:06:11,520
Speaker 16: culture of Africa. Now we've got a theme in some

2371
02:06:11,560 --> 02:06:14,160
Speaker 16: cases out there are self hatred of Africa that started

2372
02:06:14,160 --> 02:06:18,920
Speaker 16: on the plantation that is still perpetuated by by our enemies, Okay,

2373
02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:21,760
Speaker 16: to plant into the minds of the young people right

2374
02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:24,440
Speaker 16: again so they can continue to do what they've always

2375
02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:28,160
Speaker 16: been doing, is the exploitation of Africa while we stay

2376
02:06:28,240 --> 02:06:31,280
Speaker 16: silent by keep in mind that even those two hundred

2377
02:06:31,320 --> 02:06:35,000
Speaker 16: pyramids in Sudan, and those pyramids were during the time

2378
02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:40,440
Speaker 16: of the Condocades okay a Mandatore, the Great Duck Queen

2379
02:06:40,520 --> 02:06:44,160
Speaker 16: mothers Okay Condocades, and many of those pyramids have been

2380
02:06:44,160 --> 02:06:48,720
Speaker 16: decapitated by Europeans, Okay, like Jissippi, who found gold in

2381
02:06:48,720 --> 02:06:50,480
Speaker 16: one of them. That's why when you see the pictures

2382
02:06:50,480 --> 02:06:53,520
Speaker 16: of them, the tops of them are torn off. After

2383
02:06:53,600 --> 02:06:56,840
Speaker 16: he found gold, his whole mission was to go and

2384
02:06:56,920 --> 02:07:01,760
Speaker 16: to literally cause destruction and tearing up those pyramids for

2385
02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:04,160
Speaker 16: finding gold. But there are more pyramids there than even

2386
02:07:04,200 --> 02:07:08,360
Speaker 16: in Egypt. But it's through the building of this new dam,

2387
02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:12,640
Speaker 16: the katch Bar Dam and the Al Sharik with the Chinese.

2388
02:07:12,640 --> 02:07:16,760
Speaker 16: With the completion of that, it's a possibility those pyramids

2389
02:07:16,760 --> 02:07:17,760
Speaker 16: will be under the water.

2390
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:19,040
Speaker 8: Okay.

2391
02:07:19,080 --> 02:07:21,080
Speaker 16: So I speak of these things so we can understand

2392
02:07:21,120 --> 02:07:23,240
Speaker 16: what's going on the African continent and we can't be

2393
02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:26,480
Speaker 16: asleep and find ourselves on the present plantation of America

2394
02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:29,400
Speaker 16: today to think that we don't have a connection or

2395
02:07:29,680 --> 02:07:34,120
Speaker 16: or we shouldn't be connected to Africa and create all

2396
02:07:34,160 --> 02:07:38,680
Speaker 16: types of hatred towards Africa that I see in some

2397
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:42,440
Speaker 16: cases going on around the country. All Right, this really

2398
02:07:42,480 --> 02:07:46,800
Speaker 16: being programmed on us to prepare us mentally to go

2399
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:49,600
Speaker 16: and fight on the African continent because the next war,

2400
02:07:49,720 --> 02:07:52,120
Speaker 16: major wars will be on the African continent for the

2401
02:07:52,160 --> 02:07:55,160
Speaker 16: resources of Africa. So I know I'm going off off

2402
02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:58,040
Speaker 16: a little bit on what I was talking about, but

2403
02:07:58,760 --> 02:08:01,080
Speaker 16: you know, trying to really pull all these things together.

2404
02:08:02,160 --> 02:08:05,320
Speaker 16: So this is some of the things that you know,

2405
02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:09,280
Speaker 16: the valley is faced with today. But the importance of

2406
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:13,400
Speaker 16: that culture down there is the fact that that when

2407
02:08:13,440 --> 02:08:16,360
Speaker 16: you look at them, why don't they have breast cancer, Carl,

2408
02:08:16,720 --> 02:08:19,720
Speaker 16: why don't they have prostate cancer? Look at the stuff

2409
02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:22,200
Speaker 16: that we are victimized by, look at the diseases. They

2410
02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:26,360
Speaker 16: don't have those things. So by living in the natural world, okay,

2411
02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:32,520
Speaker 16: in the world that you know, with nature itself. Okay, Now,

2412
02:08:32,960 --> 02:08:38,840
Speaker 16: imagine we experienced when COVID came and there was no

2413
02:08:38,920 --> 02:08:41,280
Speaker 16: food in the grocery store. People didn't know what to do.

2414
02:08:41,320 --> 02:08:45,240
Speaker 16: To imagine some great catastrophe happy in this country. And

2415
02:08:45,400 --> 02:08:48,040
Speaker 16: here we are, we don't have any food. Many of

2416
02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:50,400
Speaker 16: us got big houses, but harready have no land.

2417
02:08:51,040 --> 02:08:51,440
Speaker 14: All right.

2418
02:08:51,480 --> 02:08:54,480
Speaker 16: As I was speaking of earlier about the tukos brothers

2419
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:58,000
Speaker 16: and sisters have there, which were circular structures, so right,

2420
02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:03,000
Speaker 16: not square, all right. They're building in a circular format

2421
02:09:03,080 --> 02:09:06,680
Speaker 16: because they're connecting with the natural forces of nature. Again,

2422
02:09:07,120 --> 02:09:10,480
Speaker 16: totally in tune with nature. I mean that everything is

2423
02:09:10,520 --> 02:09:14,440
Speaker 16: in a circular motion, all right, whether we're looking at plants, life,

2424
02:09:14,480 --> 02:09:18,040
Speaker 16: whether we're looking at our fingerprints circular, whether we're looking

2425
02:09:18,040 --> 02:09:20,919
Speaker 16: at nebulas. Everything is so they built, even their tucules

2426
02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:25,320
Speaker 16: are built in a circular format, all right, Uh, connecting

2427
02:09:25,360 --> 02:09:29,360
Speaker 16: with nature itself, okay, not in in a square. But

2428
02:09:29,480 --> 02:09:32,840
Speaker 16: again they're not they're not in those tucles you know,

2429
02:09:33,800 --> 02:09:36,120
Speaker 16: most of their life, okay, or all day long like

2430
02:09:36,160 --> 02:09:38,920
Speaker 16: we are. All right, they're out in you know, with

2431
02:09:38,920 --> 02:09:40,240
Speaker 16: with nature, with the sun.

2432
02:09:40,320 --> 02:09:40,680
Speaker 8: All right.

2433
02:09:41,080 --> 02:09:46,160
Speaker 16: That's why you see many of the brothers and sisters

2434
02:09:46,240 --> 02:09:50,600
Speaker 16: are very melanated. They they're they're with nature. So they're

2435
02:09:50,640 --> 02:09:54,560
Speaker 16: out and about all right, uh, and getting the natural

2436
02:09:54,840 --> 02:09:58,440
Speaker 16: vitamin D. Whereas you know, most of our dwelling are

2437
02:09:58,560 --> 02:10:00,520
Speaker 16: inside of the homes. And then when you look at

2438
02:10:00,520 --> 02:10:02,880
Speaker 16: the land that they have, you see this little tukul. Yeah,

2439
02:10:02,920 --> 02:10:05,040
Speaker 16: we sold us to their little house. Oh no, no, no,

2440
02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:07,960
Speaker 16: you know, you know you're not looking at all the

2441
02:10:08,080 --> 02:10:11,080
Speaker 16: land that they have, okay, all the cattle that they have. Okay,

2442
02:10:11,120 --> 02:10:12,760
Speaker 16: they can grow their food, all right.

2443
02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:15,120
Speaker 14: What would we have?

2444
02:10:15,360 --> 02:10:18,880
Speaker 16: Oh right, if something happened and we have our house,

2445
02:10:19,480 --> 02:10:22,200
Speaker 16: but hardly no land or no land at all, okay

2446
02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:23,120
Speaker 16: to feed ourselves.

2447
02:10:23,320 --> 02:10:23,360
Speaker 3: Know.

2448
02:10:23,560 --> 02:10:25,440
Speaker 16: My early life, I grew up on the farm my

2449
02:10:25,520 --> 02:10:30,000
Speaker 16: grandmother and grandfather back in Ohio, all right, uh, And

2450
02:10:30,320 --> 02:10:34,040
Speaker 16: that was my first early stage of freedom of my

2451
02:10:34,120 --> 02:10:36,240
Speaker 16: world was turned upside down when we moved to the city.

2452
02:10:36,280 --> 02:10:38,480
Speaker 16: To Pittsburgh and my world was reduced to a porch.

2453
02:10:39,200 --> 02:10:42,240
Speaker 16: But prior to that, you know, on the farm, we

2454
02:10:42,280 --> 02:10:44,760
Speaker 16: took the water from the well. I mean it was natural.

2455
02:10:44,840 --> 02:10:47,720
Speaker 16: I mean if I wanted fruit, My grandmother and grandfather

2456
02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:50,600
Speaker 16: had apple trees, cherry trees. Everything was there. So I

2457
02:10:50,720 --> 02:10:52,840
Speaker 16: know what that life is like from that early age

2458
02:10:52,880 --> 02:10:58,280
Speaker 16: of living on the farm, whereas in the Omo Valley

2459
02:10:58,480 --> 02:11:02,080
Speaker 16: the brothers and sisters are still living a very natural life.

2460
02:11:02,640 --> 02:11:05,800
Speaker 16: But again we want to connect the Olmo Valley to

2461
02:11:06,480 --> 02:11:10,840
Speaker 16: the fallopian tube, okay, because they're the ones, Okay that

2462
02:11:11,000 --> 02:11:14,360
Speaker 16: as I said before it started that early migration. They're

2463
02:11:14,400 --> 02:11:19,280
Speaker 16: the ones from their observation of the natural forces around them. Okay,

2464
02:11:19,360 --> 02:11:23,600
Speaker 16: that carried that science down the now. And I know

2465
02:11:23,640 --> 02:11:26,920
Speaker 16: I can't talk about everything, but just the small things

2466
02:11:26,920 --> 02:11:30,280
Speaker 16: that I saw, like for instance, okay, being an agricultural

2467
02:11:30,320 --> 02:11:33,920
Speaker 16: people one of the things you see, okay, And I

2468
02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:35,920
Speaker 16: observed and even took a picture with one of the

2469
02:11:35,920 --> 02:11:38,440
Speaker 16: farmers even this time, as I did last time with

2470
02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:42,600
Speaker 16: the hoe okay, of plowing the land. All right, Well,

2471
02:11:42,720 --> 02:11:44,840
Speaker 16: in the med Do neture. When you look at the

2472
02:11:44,840 --> 02:11:47,120
Speaker 16: med Do neture and you see the various symbols and

2473
02:11:47,160 --> 02:11:50,280
Speaker 16: the things that they're using. And one of the symbols

2474
02:11:50,360 --> 02:11:52,280
Speaker 16: that you see carved in stone in one of the

2475
02:11:52,280 --> 02:11:55,680
Speaker 16: comparisons that I do, and also in the Natural History

2476
02:11:55,800 --> 02:11:59,280
Speaker 16: Museum in adis Ababa, and you see this hoe there.

2477
02:11:59,320 --> 02:12:01,280
Speaker 16: All right, Now, let's go walk through the natural history

2478
02:12:01,840 --> 02:12:04,480
Speaker 16: zim and ladis Ababa. You wouldn't think nothing of it

2479
02:12:05,240 --> 02:12:08,240
Speaker 16: unless you're thinking about the books in stone and timid.

2480
02:12:08,840 --> 02:12:12,920
Speaker 16: And now you see here's a symbol that represents okay, murray,

2481
02:12:13,160 --> 02:12:17,640
Speaker 16: all right? What is murray? Murray?

2482
02:12:18,160 --> 02:12:18,400
Speaker 8: Okay?

2483
02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:20,400
Speaker 16: What we would call love today?

2484
02:12:20,840 --> 02:12:21,200
Speaker 8: All right?

2485
02:12:21,400 --> 02:12:24,320
Speaker 16: This is the earliest concept on the miuments of Africa.

2486
02:12:24,720 --> 02:12:28,440
Speaker 16: Way we think about love. Okay, I'm using the translation

2487
02:12:28,520 --> 02:12:31,200
Speaker 16: of Murray. Okay, we say love. That's on the Miamas

2488
02:12:31,240 --> 02:12:33,480
Speaker 16: and simple of Africa. There was no European world yet,

2489
02:12:33,520 --> 02:12:37,440
Speaker 16: the world that we know did not exist. Yet we

2490
02:12:37,560 --> 02:12:41,960
Speaker 16: brought our ancestors brought that term to the world love murray.

2491
02:12:42,920 --> 02:12:46,480
Speaker 16: And what did they use? They used the symbol of

2492
02:12:46,520 --> 02:12:49,040
Speaker 16: the hoe. Why would they use the hope? Because in

2493
02:12:49,360 --> 02:12:53,280
Speaker 16: they're in Africa, deep down in Africa, deep down in

2494
02:12:53,280 --> 02:12:56,520
Speaker 16: the Omu Valley. There the people living in the natural

2495
02:12:56,560 --> 02:13:02,400
Speaker 16: life here that love is coming. Who's giving them that love? Okay,

2496
02:13:03,160 --> 02:13:07,440
Speaker 16: Gab Gab is giv Gab is the earth. That's the

2497
02:13:07,760 --> 02:13:11,160
Speaker 16: orn'ture term for gab being the earth is giving them

2498
02:13:11,200 --> 02:13:14,720
Speaker 16: that love, plowing the land to give them what food.

2499
02:13:15,280 --> 02:13:18,600
Speaker 16: So an ancient kimmit, I mean two thousand miles down

2500
02:13:18,640 --> 02:13:22,839
Speaker 16: to now it ends up carved in stone on the monument.

2501
02:13:23,000 --> 02:13:23,400
Speaker 8: All right.

2502
02:13:23,960 --> 02:13:28,800
Speaker 16: These are the kind of things that National Geographic, the

2503
02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:31,960
Speaker 16: History Channel, they're not making those kind of comparisons to

2504
02:13:32,040 --> 02:13:36,880
Speaker 16: show that this is all one indigenous culture coming up

2505
02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:40,720
Speaker 16: out of Africa. Okay, there we can see, and there

2506
02:13:40,760 --> 02:13:42,919
Speaker 16: are many others. I'm just using one as an example

2507
02:13:43,000 --> 02:13:44,720
Speaker 16: right off the top of my head. Okay, there are

2508
02:13:44,720 --> 02:13:49,480
Speaker 16: many others that I do. Okay, Murray my art. Okay,

2509
02:13:49,840 --> 02:13:52,600
Speaker 16: Murray my art. So you got that whole representing love.

2510
02:13:52,680 --> 02:13:56,920
Speaker 16: Then you've got Murray all right, and Murray Okay, that

2511
02:13:56,960 --> 02:14:01,360
Speaker 16: would be the feather. So there you see again in

2512
02:14:01,480 --> 02:14:04,720
Speaker 16: the Omo Valley. Here we see the brothers having the

2513
02:14:04,800 --> 02:14:08,000
Speaker 16: feather okay, coming up that they wear on their head.

2514
02:14:08,200 --> 02:14:12,160
Speaker 16: And the sisters, okay, the Hammer sisters, they're wearing the

2515
02:14:12,200 --> 02:14:16,360
Speaker 16: feather on their head. So when you look at Murray

2516
02:14:16,400 --> 02:14:19,200
Speaker 16: my aunt. What is my art? Truth, justice and righteousness.

2517
02:14:19,640 --> 02:14:23,240
Speaker 16: This whole spiritual idea of truth, justice and righteousness is

2518
02:14:23,280 --> 02:14:26,320
Speaker 16: coming from deep into the Koi land, the spirit land

2519
02:14:26,360 --> 02:14:27,200
Speaker 16: of our An sisters.

2520
02:14:27,840 --> 02:14:28,800
Speaker 14: Is it coming.

2521
02:14:28,560 --> 02:14:35,480
Speaker 16: From here the African woman here in that mitochondrial DNA

2522
02:14:35,920 --> 02:14:39,240
Speaker 16: that even Europeans themselves saying is from the African woman,

2523
02:14:40,040 --> 02:14:43,000
Speaker 16: because it starts so here she wears that feather and

2524
02:14:43,040 --> 02:14:45,800
Speaker 16: that now ends up. And the murals and the paintings

2525
02:14:45,880 --> 02:14:48,800
Speaker 16: and the carvings and stone and ancient kimmitt that represents

2526
02:14:48,840 --> 02:14:57,600
Speaker 16: my art an African goddess. It represents truth, justice and righteousness. Okay,

2527
02:14:58,360 --> 02:15:00,680
Speaker 16: So these are the these are the kind of things

2528
02:15:00,720 --> 02:15:03,760
Speaker 16: that we have to do so we don't get caught

2529
02:15:04,320 --> 02:15:10,160
Speaker 16: into some external Okay, everything is starting outside of Africa,

2530
02:15:10,320 --> 02:15:14,520
Speaker 16: and Africa they had no creation of the culture, all right,

2531
02:15:14,600 --> 02:15:16,760
Speaker 16: at all, all right, when in fact it is the

2532
02:15:16,760 --> 02:15:19,600
Speaker 16: beginning of the culture. And one of the sayings that

2533
02:15:19,640 --> 02:15:21,720
Speaker 16: the people had there. And one of the brothers that

2534
02:15:21,720 --> 02:15:24,320
Speaker 16: we were talking to, the brother that I've known for

2535
02:15:24,360 --> 02:15:28,000
Speaker 16: many many years, I named Luguessa, and he was saying

2536
02:15:28,040 --> 02:15:32,040
Speaker 16: telling me, he said, he said they he acknowledged that Africa, yes,

2537
02:15:32,400 --> 02:15:36,320
Speaker 16: is humanity's womb. But he said, it's the Omo Valley.

2538
02:15:36,720 --> 02:15:40,200
Speaker 16: This is the umbiblical cord. Now I look at the

2539
02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:44,280
Speaker 16: now as the fallopian tube itself because it gave birth

2540
02:15:46,000 --> 02:15:50,120
Speaker 16: to humanity itself. You got excuse my cough here. So

2541
02:15:50,200 --> 02:15:53,680
Speaker 16: you know, on these planes you're breathing everything on all

2542
02:15:53,720 --> 02:15:57,040
Speaker 16: the area that everybody else got on the airplane. So

2543
02:15:57,040 --> 02:16:00,160
Speaker 16: so it was a very powerful experience. Returning back back

2544
02:16:00,480 --> 02:16:04,080
Speaker 16: Tudolmo Valley and my wife and I we were looking

2545
02:16:04,120 --> 02:16:06,440
Speaker 16: at picking back up Ethiopia again. Like I said before,

2546
02:16:06,520 --> 02:16:09,120
Speaker 16: we stopped the tour in twenty twenty because of COVID

2547
02:16:09,160 --> 02:16:12,160
Speaker 16: and then with political instability. Some of those things are

2548
02:16:12,200 --> 02:16:16,960
Speaker 16: subsiding now, so we're going to do the historical route.

2549
02:16:17,600 --> 02:16:20,000
Speaker 16: That's our tour that has opened up for everybody. Okay,

2550
02:16:20,040 --> 02:16:24,560
Speaker 16: that's the historical time. That's when we're dealing with not

2551
02:16:24,600 --> 02:16:26,240
Speaker 16: only do they have the pology, but we're dealing with

2552
02:16:26,280 --> 02:16:29,800
Speaker 16: the early culture of Ethiopia with the emperors, starting with

2553
02:16:29,840 --> 02:16:32,600
Speaker 16: the you know Menelikta first and the whole story of

2554
02:16:32,640 --> 02:16:35,880
Speaker 16: Makeda and coming all the way up to the present time.

2555
02:16:36,040 --> 02:16:38,480
Speaker 16: In fact, my wife Mary Roshi's the one that loves

2556
02:16:38,520 --> 02:16:41,400
Speaker 16: to do the lectures or on the on the emperors.

2557
02:16:42,400 --> 02:16:46,360
Speaker 16: So that'll be coming up in our twenty twenty seven.

2558
02:16:46,920 --> 02:16:50,360
Speaker 16: We're looking at February twenty twenty seven, but the Olmo

2559
02:16:50,480 --> 02:16:53,840
Speaker 16: Valley looking at that maybe before and every other year.

2560
02:16:53,840 --> 02:16:55,840
Speaker 16: But again it's going to have to be selected people

2561
02:16:55,879 --> 02:16:58,280
Speaker 16: to go, okay, because we want people. Mine want the

2562
02:16:58,320 --> 02:17:01,840
Speaker 16: brothers and sisters who will go there. Even though I've

2563
02:17:01,879 --> 02:17:07,200
Speaker 16: only taken brothers there. The first time I went, they

2564
02:17:07,200 --> 02:17:10,040
Speaker 16: didn't have lodges this time to hit lodges by first time,

2565
02:17:10,040 --> 02:17:12,200
Speaker 16: we had to stay in tense, brother Karl, all right,

2566
02:17:13,320 --> 02:17:17,080
Speaker 16: so well again, you know, I mean we're more familiar

2567
02:17:17,120 --> 02:17:19,800
Speaker 16: with the Western world, so the lodges and everything is

2568
02:17:20,040 --> 02:17:22,840
Speaker 16: part of again is not built for us. It's where

2569
02:17:22,840 --> 02:17:25,320
Speaker 16: the Europeans coming there. They have the pologies and National

2570
02:17:25,400 --> 02:17:27,879
Speaker 16: Geographic and other European tours.

2571
02:17:28,120 --> 02:17:30,080
Speaker 1: Right and holder though, right there, Brother Quay, you've got

2572
02:17:30,120 --> 02:17:31,960
Speaker 1: a step aside. So I take a break so our

2573
02:17:31,959 --> 02:17:34,119
Speaker 1: stations can identify themselves down the line. Let me say

2574
02:17:34,160 --> 02:17:36,320
Speaker 1: this before we take the break, though, you mentioned that

2575
02:17:36,480 --> 02:17:40,160
Speaker 1: Charles French, doctor Charles Frinch, Today is the fourtith anniversary

2576
02:17:40,160 --> 02:17:42,760
Speaker 1: of ascension, if you will, And there's a celebration of

2577
02:17:42,800 --> 02:17:46,320
Speaker 1: his life is going to be at the eighteen sixteen

2578
02:17:46,360 --> 02:17:49,200
Speaker 1: twelve seed as A Farragod Marshall Center in Northwest DC

2579
02:17:49,320 --> 02:17:52,480
Speaker 1: and the short era of Washington, DC. Folks in the

2580
02:17:52,560 --> 02:17:56,640
Speaker 1: DMV know that also, the public viewing for Reverend Jesse

2581
02:17:56,720 --> 02:18:00,800
Speaker 1: Jackson starts today at Rainbow Push Headquarters in Chicago. So I, mensue,

2582
02:18:00,800 --> 02:18:02,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna step aside for a few months. We'll come back.

2583
02:18:02,560 --> 02:18:05,360
Speaker 1: We'll take you questions for Astra Quasi at eight hundred

2584
02:18:05,400 --> 02:18:08,400
Speaker 1: four five zero seventy eight seventy six. We'll do that

2585
02:18:08,440 --> 02:18:11,240
Speaker 1: next and Grand Rising family, thanks for rolling with us

2586
02:18:11,280 --> 02:18:14,320
Speaker 1: on this Thursday morning with our guest. The master teachers

2587
02:18:14,320 --> 02:18:17,360
Speaker 1: in the classroom eight hundred four five zero seventy eight

2588
02:18:17,480 --> 02:18:19,959
Speaker 1: seventy six to speak to him. Bomani's joining us from

2589
02:18:20,000 --> 02:18:22,800
Speaker 1: Detroit on line two, Grand Rising Bomani, you're on, brother

2590
02:18:22,879 --> 02:18:23,680
Speaker 1: astra Quasi.

2591
02:18:26,200 --> 02:18:26,840
Speaker 16: Excuse me?

2592
02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:31,800
Speaker 1: Is Bimani there? All right? You misstuf hung up? Let's

2593
02:18:31,800 --> 02:18:34,520
Speaker 1: stay in Detroit, then, Kevin, Let's go to Komosi on

2594
02:18:34,600 --> 02:18:36,599
Speaker 1: line three, Grand Rising Kobosi.

2595
02:18:37,320 --> 02:18:41,240
Speaker 11: Grand Rising, Grand Rising Cabosai. I just wanted to call

2596
02:18:41,320 --> 02:18:45,520
Speaker 11: in and and the compliment barb AKWASI. I accompanied him

2597
02:18:45,640 --> 02:18:48,920
Speaker 11: on this tour and on this trip, and I'll be

2598
02:18:49,000 --> 02:18:53,400
Speaker 11: a witness to sing the culture. Well, now we can

2599
02:18:53,480 --> 02:18:57,640
Speaker 11: trace that back to Kimmic. You see, the culture is

2600
02:18:57,640 --> 02:19:01,440
Speaker 11: alive in the Olmo Valley. One thing that struck me

2601
02:19:02,800 --> 02:19:07,240
Speaker 11: as significant on that trip was the number of Europeans

2602
02:19:07,240 --> 02:19:11,480
Speaker 11: that were in that area. And the Europeans approached us

2603
02:19:12,040 --> 02:19:13,359
Speaker 11: and asked us.

2604
02:19:13,400 --> 02:19:17,400
Speaker 6: Why were we there. They told us that we should

2605
02:19:17,400 --> 02:19:22,000
Speaker 6: be in Greece or Rome or Jerusalem, and that this

2606
02:19:22,320 --> 02:19:25,360
Speaker 6: area of Ethiopia was for them and not for us.

2607
02:19:26,240 --> 02:19:27,680
Speaker 6: I believe that.

2608
02:19:27,640 --> 02:19:33,359
Speaker 11: Black Americans, African Americans and whatever however you classify yourself,

2609
02:19:34,000 --> 02:19:38,080
Speaker 11: need to make more trips to that area so that

2610
02:19:38,560 --> 02:19:41,720
Speaker 11: does not become the purview of Europeans. Only.

2611
02:19:42,800 --> 02:19:44,800
Speaker 1: Come on, let me interrupt you and ask you this question.

2612
02:19:44,879 --> 02:19:49,560
Speaker 1: Right if they saying us very French, specifically to African

2613
02:19:49,600 --> 02:19:53,080
Speaker 1: Americans or African people, period, shouldn't be that part of Ethiopia.

2614
02:19:53,879 --> 02:19:58,240
Speaker 11: I believe they were referring to African Americans, that the

2615
02:19:59,120 --> 02:20:01,880
Speaker 11: comments that I get they were referring to. They asked

2616
02:20:01,959 --> 02:20:04,080
Speaker 11: us where we were from. We told them where we

2617
02:20:04,080 --> 02:20:07,160
Speaker 11: were from, and they said to us we should not

2618
02:20:07,320 --> 02:20:10,840
Speaker 11: be there. This was not for us that we should

2619
02:20:10,840 --> 02:20:16,600
Speaker 11: be in Greece, Rome or Jerusalem, that this area was reserved,

2620
02:20:16,600 --> 02:20:19,720
Speaker 11: that this is where they come. It's not for us,

2621
02:20:19,920 --> 02:20:21,800
Speaker 11: they meaning Europeans.

2622
02:20:23,280 --> 02:20:27,520
Speaker 16: Wow, Carlo, we have to understand the fact that see

2623
02:20:27,600 --> 02:20:30,039
Speaker 16: they know we know them. Okay, we live in the

2624
02:20:30,040 --> 02:20:32,680
Speaker 16: belly of the beast, all right. And that's the fear

2625
02:20:32,720 --> 02:20:36,080
Speaker 16: that Europeans have when they see us on the African continent.

2626
02:20:36,760 --> 02:20:40,240
Speaker 16: And also why they're pushing, even through some of our

2627
02:20:40,280 --> 02:20:44,240
Speaker 16: people over here, a whole anti African movement. I mean

2628
02:20:44,440 --> 02:20:46,360
Speaker 16: they don't want I mean they're having a good time

2629
02:20:46,400 --> 02:20:49,200
Speaker 16: in Africa. They're traveling all over Africa, all right. As

2630
02:20:49,240 --> 02:20:52,080
Speaker 16: our brother who just mentioned who traveled with us, as

2631
02:20:52,120 --> 02:20:54,080
Speaker 16: one of the brothers travel with us. You know they're there.

2632
02:20:54,160 --> 02:20:56,000
Speaker 16: You didn't see us over there. You just saw all

2633
02:20:56,000 --> 02:20:59,680
Speaker 16: these Europeans over there. So the fact that they fear,

2634
02:20:59,760 --> 02:21:02,320
Speaker 16: the fact that we know them, that we will also

2635
02:21:02,520 --> 02:21:05,400
Speaker 16: educate our brothers and sisters on the continent, all right,

2636
02:21:05,480 --> 02:21:10,959
Speaker 16: who are unfortunately in some cases because of the missionaries

2637
02:21:10,959 --> 02:21:13,199
Speaker 16: are coming there and they are bringing these white Jesus

2638
02:21:13,440 --> 02:21:17,520
Speaker 16: and images and for the for white idolatry, all right,

2639
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:19,840
Speaker 16: for people to see them as some kind of pure,

2640
02:21:20,360 --> 02:21:24,560
Speaker 16: pure holy people, so called pure holy people. So in

2641
02:21:24,600 --> 02:21:27,000
Speaker 16: fact that for those of us who are mentally free,

2642
02:21:27,640 --> 02:21:29,720
Speaker 16: we we know who they are. And that's one of

2643
02:21:29,720 --> 02:21:32,360
Speaker 16: the fears that they have, and that's why they Well,

2644
02:21:32,440 --> 02:21:32,640
Speaker 16: let me.

2645
02:21:32,640 --> 02:21:36,040
Speaker 1: Ask you this, brother, how did the brothers and sisters

2646
02:21:36,080 --> 02:21:39,400
Speaker 1: in the Oman family feel about us seeing you and

2647
02:21:39,480 --> 02:21:41,520
Speaker 1: brother Komosi from Detroit.

2648
02:21:42,440 --> 02:21:42,520
Speaker 3: Uh.

2649
02:21:43,040 --> 02:21:45,760
Speaker 16: They came up and they were through the translator because

2650
02:21:45,840 --> 02:21:48,520
Speaker 16: keep in mind, you know, they through the translators that

2651
02:21:48,560 --> 02:21:52,080
Speaker 16: we have to speak, right, and they they enjoyed seeing

2652
02:21:52,120 --> 02:21:54,680
Speaker 16: us there. They were happy to see us there all right,

2653
02:21:55,200 --> 02:21:57,600
Speaker 16: because keep in mind, all they see are Europeans coming

2654
02:21:57,640 --> 02:22:00,680
Speaker 16: all the time. And they expressed that to us. They

2655
02:22:00,760 --> 02:22:03,320
Speaker 16: were happy to see and even though they could not

2656
02:22:03,400 --> 02:22:06,160
Speaker 16: speak the language. What what they do they they're they're

2657
02:22:06,200 --> 02:22:08,279
Speaker 16: touching our hand in their hands, you know, and showing

2658
02:22:08,320 --> 02:22:10,480
Speaker 16: one you know, we're together, we're together, you know, pointing.

2659
02:22:10,560 --> 02:22:12,800
Speaker 16: So they were happy to see to see that that

2660
02:22:12,920 --> 02:22:15,600
Speaker 16: we were there. Uh, you know, and of course when

2661
02:22:15,640 --> 02:22:18,360
Speaker 16: they see us, uh, you know, we we have all

2662
02:22:18,360 --> 02:22:20,520
Speaker 16: these European things on and out. I know the first

2663
02:22:20,520 --> 02:22:24,280
Speaker 16: time when I went in six uh and and mousie

2664
02:22:24,320 --> 02:22:28,440
Speaker 16: that they're some of the strongest culture there. And uh

2665
02:22:28,520 --> 02:22:30,360
Speaker 16: with the brothers and sisters, they're they're the ones that

2666
02:22:30,400 --> 02:22:33,360
Speaker 16: have the lip plates. And that lip places actually started

2667
02:22:33,959 --> 02:22:36,959
Speaker 16: during the time of when the Arabs were kidnapping Africans

2668
02:22:37,040 --> 02:22:40,240
Speaker 16: during the time, so what the women would do was, uh,

2669
02:22:40,280 --> 02:22:42,720
Speaker 16: they would wear these lip plates so the men with

2670
02:22:42,879 --> 02:22:45,680
Speaker 16: the Arabs would not take them right during the time

2671
02:22:45,680 --> 02:22:47,840
Speaker 16: when the Arabs were enslaving our ancestors during this time,

2672
02:22:47,840 --> 02:22:50,199
Speaker 16: so they would not take them. So that eventually became

2673
02:22:50,720 --> 02:22:53,879
Speaker 16: a culture of beauty. Uh, with the sisters with the

2674
02:22:53,879 --> 02:22:56,680
Speaker 16: lip place, and the bigger the lip plate, Okay, the

2675
02:22:56,760 --> 02:23:00,400
Speaker 16: more beautiful they saw the sister, all right, So that's

2676
02:23:00,440 --> 02:23:04,440
Speaker 16: how they have the uh you know the place. But

2677
02:23:04,440 --> 02:23:06,560
Speaker 16: but again with the culture and the and the uh

2678
02:23:06,680 --> 02:23:10,320
Speaker 16: and the Europeans, uh, you know coming there. Uh they

2679
02:23:10,360 --> 02:23:12,920
Speaker 16: they are bringing the missionaries, as I said before, are

2680
02:23:12,959 --> 02:23:17,240
Speaker 16: coming there. And this is how the contamination is taking place.

2681
02:23:17,680 --> 02:23:20,240
Speaker 16: All right, Like the missionaries they come in there, and

2682
02:23:20,360 --> 02:23:22,360
Speaker 16: keep in mind they're living their natural life, so they

2683
02:23:22,360 --> 02:23:24,760
Speaker 16: don't have so the sisters who don't have brawls on

2684
02:23:24,840 --> 02:23:26,720
Speaker 16: their living naturally, you know, you don't see the men

2685
02:23:27,240 --> 02:23:30,240
Speaker 16: going at the uh at the sisters or anything like that.

2686
02:23:30,280 --> 02:23:33,840
Speaker 16: They don't have any sexual perversions and all the things

2687
02:23:33,840 --> 02:23:36,640
Speaker 16: that you see in the western world today. All right,

2688
02:23:36,760 --> 02:23:39,160
Speaker 16: keep in mind that they live natural, you know, with

2689
02:23:39,160 --> 02:23:41,560
Speaker 16: with natural life, all right, if you're living up in

2690
02:23:41,600 --> 02:23:44,800
Speaker 16: the uh up in the ice age, all right, all right.

2691
02:23:45,080 --> 02:23:48,600
Speaker 16: The the the woman's body was always as curiosity, a

2692
02:23:48,600 --> 02:23:51,640
Speaker 16: big curiosity, because she had all these clothes on. And

2693
02:23:51,640 --> 02:23:54,480
Speaker 16: that's why you had the rape culture in the Western world. Okay,

2694
02:23:54,480 --> 02:23:57,600
Speaker 16: they just just snatched, took her, you know, rape her

2695
02:23:57,600 --> 02:24:00,520
Speaker 16: and took the clothes off, whereas in the natural unbuilt

2696
02:24:00,640 --> 02:24:02,959
Speaker 16: the sisters there, you know, the brother, there's there's no

2697
02:24:03,000 --> 02:24:06,160
Speaker 16: big no, no, there's no thing about about her in

2698
02:24:06,240 --> 02:24:09,240
Speaker 16: her natural her natural way of life, all right, unlike

2699
02:24:09,560 --> 02:24:10,880
Speaker 16: what we see here today.

2700
02:24:11,480 --> 02:24:13,480
Speaker 1: So uh well, let me jump in ask you this

2701
02:24:13,480 --> 02:24:16,680
Speaker 1: brother question. Did they wear any clothes at all? Well?

2702
02:24:16,720 --> 02:24:17,959
Speaker 8: They just he pins.

2703
02:24:18,520 --> 02:24:23,520
Speaker 16: Well, now, like I said, when in six the mousy okay,

2704
02:24:23,920 --> 02:24:25,480
Speaker 16: let me tell the story about the mousie. And we

2705
02:24:25,520 --> 02:24:27,200
Speaker 16: went up on top of the Moosey Mountain. This was

2706
02:24:27,240 --> 02:24:31,280
Speaker 16: an O six and as we got closer, I said, whatther, Wow,

2707
02:24:31,320 --> 02:24:32,280
Speaker 16: he got a nice suit on.

2708
02:24:32,680 --> 02:24:33,600
Speaker 14: But as I got.

2709
02:24:33,360 --> 02:24:37,240
Speaker 16: Closer, I realized that he had pain. He painted himself.

2710
02:24:37,280 --> 02:24:40,120
Speaker 16: He didn't have any clothes on, all right, he was

2711
02:24:40,240 --> 02:24:43,320
Speaker 16: just all pain, all right. That's and to keep in mind,

2712
02:24:43,480 --> 02:24:46,800
Speaker 16: if they wanted the clothes, all right, uh, they could

2713
02:24:46,879 --> 02:24:49,120
Speaker 16: easy have the clothes. But they want to keep their

2714
02:24:49,160 --> 02:24:51,959
Speaker 16: own culture. Like I said, the Mousi, they have the

2715
02:24:52,040 --> 02:24:53,160
Speaker 16: heaviest culture there.

2716
02:24:53,840 --> 02:24:54,200
Speaker 8: Okay.

2717
02:24:54,240 --> 02:24:56,720
Speaker 16: So but even the others who had clothes on, these

2718
02:24:56,760 --> 02:25:00,280
Speaker 16: are not Western clothes. These are clothes made by them, okay.

2719
02:25:00,280 --> 02:25:02,920
Speaker 16: The natural clothes that they have that they made or right,

2720
02:25:03,040 --> 02:25:04,560
Speaker 16: not European clothes.

2721
02:25:05,160 --> 02:25:05,280
Speaker 14: Uh.

2722
02:25:05,440 --> 02:25:08,000
Speaker 16: And everything else that they have on they actually made.

2723
02:25:08,440 --> 02:25:12,400
Speaker 16: But slowly this time I did see that they, you know,

2724
02:25:12,560 --> 02:25:16,959
Speaker 16: the women, they some of them were wearing tops, you know,

2725
02:25:17,000 --> 02:25:20,360
Speaker 16: to cover their breasts, are more, even though there were

2726
02:25:20,440 --> 02:25:22,240
Speaker 16: some that didn't have that on. But I can see

2727
02:25:22,240 --> 02:25:26,720
Speaker 16: that culture slowly starting to change now, all right. So

2728
02:25:26,760 --> 02:25:29,840
Speaker 16: again you know, we we have to look at it,

2729
02:25:29,879 --> 02:25:31,400
Speaker 16: you know, from you know, and that's how I see it.

2730
02:25:31,440 --> 02:25:34,120
Speaker 16: We have to have look at it from its natural

2731
02:25:34,120 --> 02:25:37,360
Speaker 16: point of view, from it from natural life and not

2732
02:25:37,560 --> 02:25:41,280
Speaker 16: from and unfortunately when we travel we want everything to

2733
02:25:41,360 --> 02:25:44,320
Speaker 16: be like the American backpack. We want everything to be

2734
02:25:44,440 --> 02:25:46,760
Speaker 16: like the world that we left. But that's the beauty

2735
02:25:46,800 --> 02:25:48,680
Speaker 16: of Africa. You can go, I mean, where can you

2736
02:25:48,720 --> 02:25:51,720
Speaker 16: go so far back in time and see a world

2737
02:25:51,760 --> 02:25:54,400
Speaker 16: the way it was twenty thousand years ago?

2738
02:25:54,560 --> 02:25:54,960
Speaker 14: All right?

2739
02:25:56,040 --> 02:25:58,959
Speaker 16: So that's that's that's the power of the Omo Valley,

2740
02:25:59,320 --> 02:26:01,879
Speaker 16: all right, Like I said before, with the culture and

2741
02:26:01,879 --> 02:26:04,680
Speaker 16: and uh seeing the culture that was uh it was

2742
02:26:04,760 --> 02:26:07,840
Speaker 16: carried down the now and seeing the beauty. Uh even

2743
02:26:07,840 --> 02:26:10,440
Speaker 16: when we look at things like with sisters today that

2744
02:26:10,480 --> 02:26:13,560
Speaker 16: we're makeup, when we're makeup, all right. Now you see

2745
02:26:13,560 --> 02:26:17,920
Speaker 16: the sisters here, they have uh with flowers from nature.

2746
02:26:18,000 --> 02:26:21,039
Speaker 16: They have paint on their face. Look, you know, looking

2747
02:26:21,120 --> 02:26:23,760
Speaker 16: very so you can see where ideas up, makeup and

2748
02:26:23,800 --> 02:26:25,720
Speaker 16: all these types of things came from. In fact, even

2749
02:26:25,760 --> 02:26:29,879
Speaker 16: Marira deals with some of those things in her lecture

2750
02:26:30,080 --> 02:26:33,039
Speaker 16: or now African Fashion, which is a powerful lecture that

2751
02:26:33,080 --> 02:26:36,120
Speaker 16: she has done in the past. Okay, but uh, you know,

2752
02:26:36,480 --> 02:26:39,160
Speaker 16: but they still are for the most part, maintaining their

2753
02:26:39,200 --> 02:26:42,080
Speaker 16: own culture. But how long that will last, Uh, that's

2754
02:26:42,080 --> 02:26:45,480
Speaker 16: within question because the uh, the government is trying to

2755
02:26:45,480 --> 02:26:50,920
Speaker 16: assimulate them into the mainstream culture. But that's also happening

2756
02:26:50,920 --> 02:26:53,440
Speaker 16: with having them on plantations or like I said, the

2757
02:26:53,440 --> 02:26:58,280
Speaker 16: banana plantations. Uh, that the Italians of all people who

2758
02:26:58,640 --> 02:27:01,879
Speaker 16: own these banana plantations and taking all their land. And

2759
02:27:01,920 --> 02:27:05,200
Speaker 16: not only they're taking their land, but they're building these

2760
02:27:05,200 --> 02:27:08,320
Speaker 16: banana plantations that they got to work on the plantations

2761
02:27:08,360 --> 02:27:10,200
Speaker 16: and even work on in the factories.

2762
02:27:10,400 --> 02:27:10,760
Speaker 13: All right.

2763
02:27:10,879 --> 02:27:14,280
Speaker 16: So with that, one has to we have to ask

2764
02:27:14,440 --> 02:27:18,400
Speaker 16: in the next fifty years the Homo Valley culture, this

2765
02:27:18,600 --> 02:27:20,280
Speaker 16: ancient culture, would it still be there?

2766
02:27:21,000 --> 02:27:21,440
Speaker 8: All right?

2767
02:27:21,480 --> 02:27:24,120
Speaker 1: All right? Ten away from tom Most you have a

2768
02:27:24,120 --> 02:27:25,760
Speaker 1: follow up question for brother Quasi.

2769
02:27:27,040 --> 02:27:29,200
Speaker 11: No, no, no, not so much a question. I'm just

2770
02:27:29,640 --> 02:27:33,720
Speaker 11: bearing witness to the experience. Was a great experience, and

2771
02:27:34,240 --> 02:27:37,840
Speaker 11: I'm looking forward to going again. Should we should we

2772
02:27:38,000 --> 02:27:41,520
Speaker 11: have another opportunity to do so, and I encourage all

2773
02:27:41,560 --> 02:27:46,040
Speaker 11: brothers to attend, Uh the Kimmit knew No lass Self

2774
02:27:46,120 --> 02:27:49,440
Speaker 11: tour the Kimmit and also the historical tour of the

2775
02:27:49,480 --> 02:27:52,039
Speaker 11: Ethiopia when they opened that up, so that.

2776
02:27:52,040 --> 02:27:55,400
Speaker 6: We could know laurself and begin to move forward.

2777
02:27:55,840 --> 02:27:58,240
Speaker 16: And all by the way, Carl Uh, all the brothers

2778
02:27:58,280 --> 02:28:01,879
Speaker 16: who went on the to Mo Valley, all of everybody

2779
02:28:01,959 --> 02:28:04,400
Speaker 16: had to have gone to kimmit at least once, all right.

2780
02:28:05,080 --> 02:28:05,360
Speaker 8: Uh.

2781
02:28:05,400 --> 02:28:10,200
Speaker 16: And I do it that way mainly because you know, uh,

2782
02:28:10,320 --> 02:28:12,520
Speaker 16: kim it is the doorway. It's like it's coming into

2783
02:28:12,600 --> 02:28:14,640
Speaker 16: the house of Africa. It's the opening of the door,

2784
02:28:15,080 --> 02:28:17,760
Speaker 16: all right, when we get into the Omo Valley deepened Africa.

2785
02:28:17,800 --> 02:28:19,680
Speaker 16: Now we're deep in Africa, so we know that one

2786
02:28:19,760 --> 02:28:22,960
Speaker 16: has an open mind. So uh, coming to the Omo

2787
02:28:23,040 --> 02:28:26,440
Speaker 16: Valley for the first time, Uh, you know, I didn't

2788
02:28:26,440 --> 02:28:28,480
Speaker 16: take brothers who were coming to Africa for the first

2789
02:28:28,480 --> 02:28:31,200
Speaker 16: time in their life, no, to the Omo Valley. No, because,

2790
02:28:31,240 --> 02:28:35,840
Speaker 16: like I said before, this is a trip where one's

2791
02:28:35,879 --> 02:28:38,240
Speaker 16: mind got to be opened. Because are some of our

2792
02:28:38,280 --> 02:28:41,480
Speaker 16: minds have been contaminated, all right, contaminated by the Western

2793
02:28:41,520 --> 02:28:44,920
Speaker 16: world that we can only see the world through Europe

2794
02:28:44,959 --> 02:28:47,879
Speaker 16: And I's all right, and if it ain't in the

2795
02:28:47,920 --> 02:28:50,520
Speaker 16: European way of living and the way that you know,

2796
02:28:50,959 --> 02:28:54,840
Speaker 16: then everything else some of us think like them, all right,

2797
02:28:55,600 --> 02:28:58,120
Speaker 16: because we've been trained to think like them, all right,

2798
02:28:58,800 --> 02:29:02,360
Speaker 16: and all the negative connotations that are associated with that,

2799
02:29:02,760 --> 02:29:06,720
Speaker 16: all right, the so called pagans and heathens and all

2800
02:29:06,720 --> 02:29:10,680
Speaker 16: this negative stuff. When this culture going back thousands of

2801
02:29:10,760 --> 02:29:13,199
Speaker 16: years before the Western world was even in existence.

2802
02:29:13,240 --> 02:29:15,560
Speaker 8: Brother Carl, all right, oh.

2803
02:29:15,520 --> 02:29:17,640
Speaker 1: I thought right there, let's go on North Carolina Clayton

2804
02:29:17,920 --> 02:29:20,680
Speaker 1: to be exactly to Hawker's joining us online too, Grand

2805
02:29:20,760 --> 02:29:23,480
Speaker 1: Rising to Hanka, your only brother Ashra Quasi.

2806
02:29:24,720 --> 02:29:27,880
Speaker 5: A grand rising brother, Carl Nelson. It's a pleasure to

2807
02:29:27,879 --> 02:29:30,920
Speaker 5: be on the show with you, and of course it's

2808
02:29:30,920 --> 02:29:34,000
Speaker 5: a pleasure to be on with our grandmaster teacher brother

2809
02:29:34,080 --> 02:29:37,760
Speaker 5: Ashua Quasi, in whom I've had the pleasure of traveling

2810
02:29:37,800 --> 02:29:41,920
Speaker 5: with over twelve years to commit and recently went down

2811
02:29:41,959 --> 02:29:44,840
Speaker 5: to the Omo Valley with him. So we have to

2812
02:29:45,360 --> 02:29:48,320
Speaker 5: thank I want to thank you and thank him for

2813
02:29:48,480 --> 02:29:53,280
Speaker 5: using this platform for us, with this metaversity to keep

2814
02:29:53,360 --> 02:29:59,480
Speaker 5: the truth rolling. But one of the things that I

2815
02:30:00,240 --> 02:30:05,600
Speaker 5: on the trip, not only for instance, like Buba Kuayzy said,

2816
02:30:05,640 --> 02:30:08,520
Speaker 5: the braids that you can clearly see on the walls

2817
02:30:08,520 --> 02:30:12,720
Speaker 5: of ancient Kimt. But I think that in academia, a

2818
02:30:12,760 --> 02:30:18,600
Speaker 5: lot of Western academia that we've study, they want to

2819
02:30:18,720 --> 02:30:25,240
Speaker 5: separate the pharonic system of ancient Kimmt from cush in Ethiopia.

2820
02:30:25,840 --> 02:30:29,800
Speaker 5: But I've seen the clear connection, like I said, whether it's.

2821
02:30:29,640 --> 02:30:32,520
Speaker 3: Through art, through the culture, through everything we've.

2822
02:30:32,400 --> 02:30:35,960
Speaker 5: Seen the clear connection to it, so it wasn't separate.

2823
02:30:36,040 --> 02:30:40,000
Speaker 5: It was all one. Last but not least I could

2824
02:30:40,080 --> 02:30:45,240
Speaker 5: see the meta neeture and now understand that we was

2825
02:30:45,320 --> 02:30:49,240
Speaker 5: with the tribe and brother Quasi King correct me. The

2826
02:30:49,360 --> 02:30:53,600
Speaker 5: Doors I think it was the Doors tribe and they

2827
02:30:53,680 --> 02:30:58,760
Speaker 5: had the a bamboo or a banana plant were saying.

2828
02:30:58,879 --> 02:31:02,800
Speaker 5: They used every every single thing from that they used

2829
02:31:02,840 --> 02:31:07,240
Speaker 5: the pope, the skin all the way down to the threads.

2830
02:31:07,280 --> 02:31:09,800
Speaker 5: In terms of clothing, they used the pope for bread.

2831
02:31:10,320 --> 02:31:13,480
Speaker 5: I mean they broke it down to the very last compound.

2832
02:31:13,879 --> 02:31:18,880
Speaker 5: And so when I looked at thenture, nothing was wasted.

2833
02:31:19,560 --> 02:31:22,520
Speaker 5: And I think that when you look at the meta neture,

2834
02:31:22,840 --> 02:31:27,400
Speaker 5: we have to see it from a systematic point of

2835
02:31:27,480 --> 02:31:34,360
Speaker 5: view instead of a literal, tangible, subjective thing. So when

2836
02:31:34,400 --> 02:31:38,040
Speaker 5: I seen that, like I said, the metaineture, you know,

2837
02:31:38,280 --> 02:31:40,879
Speaker 5: I got the idea that the meta neture was broken down.

2838
02:31:40,959 --> 02:31:45,000
Speaker 5: They didn't waste nothing on terms of the art and

2839
02:31:45,640 --> 02:31:50,480
Speaker 5: representing the animals and plants in nature by my nature.

2840
02:31:50,640 --> 02:31:54,800
Speaker 5: So thank you brother called nothing, Thank you Brother Quasy.

2841
02:31:56,040 --> 02:31:57,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you Hark.

2842
02:31:57,800 --> 02:31:59,440
Speaker 16: Hark has been on the front line with us for

2843
02:31:59,480 --> 02:32:02,120
Speaker 16: a long time, and uh you know like you're saying,

2844
02:32:02,160 --> 02:32:05,680
Speaker 16: you know the you know I mean you're looking at

2845
02:32:05,720 --> 02:32:09,680
Speaker 16: the culture and it's real life, all right. No place

2846
02:32:09,800 --> 02:32:11,680
Speaker 16: like it on the planet, by the carl, like I said,

2847
02:32:11,680 --> 02:32:14,800
Speaker 16: only a few places left on this planet where you

2848
02:32:14,840 --> 02:32:19,039
Speaker 16: can see uh, our ancestors living in natural life, as

2849
02:32:19,080 --> 02:32:22,560
Speaker 16: I repeatedly said, like Papua New Guinea and the now okay,

2850
02:32:23,200 --> 02:32:28,280
Speaker 16: uh the Amazon uh all people who migrate up out

2851
02:32:28,280 --> 02:32:32,280
Speaker 16: of Africa and uh maintaining those and those cultures are

2852
02:32:32,320 --> 02:32:36,440
Speaker 16: slowly being destroyed, whether it's through deforestation with the twa

2853
02:32:36,800 --> 02:32:40,840
Speaker 16: okay in the Congo, the deforestation uh okay in the Amazon,

2854
02:32:40,920 --> 02:32:44,280
Speaker 16: the deforestation okay uh with with Papa New Guinea.

2855
02:32:44,600 --> 02:32:44,760
Speaker 14: Uh.

2856
02:32:44,800 --> 02:32:49,720
Speaker 16: So their culture is slowly being destroyed. And again you know,

2857
02:32:49,800 --> 02:32:54,360
Speaker 16: I mean how much they can help us in this

2858
02:32:54,440 --> 02:32:58,120
Speaker 16: world with us and understanding uh and living in a

2859
02:32:58,240 --> 02:33:01,640
Speaker 16: natural life as is the natural life itself is slowly

2860
02:33:01,680 --> 02:33:04,680
Speaker 16: disappearing with the pollution of the air, with the pollution

2861
02:33:04,840 --> 02:33:07,720
Speaker 16: of the water. Having you know, I mean all this,

2862
02:33:08,320 --> 02:33:13,400
Speaker 16: our ancestors, salt were the hierarchy developmental forces itself, which

2863
02:33:13,480 --> 02:33:16,400
Speaker 16: is the divine force of life within itself. The Europeans

2864
02:33:16,800 --> 02:33:19,200
Speaker 16: will come along and say they were animus, okay, they

2865
02:33:19,240 --> 02:33:21,879
Speaker 16: worshiped the water, they were you know, No, these were

2866
02:33:21,920 --> 02:33:27,400
Speaker 16: the divine attributes of the divine force of the universe itself. Okay,

2867
02:33:27,600 --> 02:33:30,120
Speaker 16: So if you need air to breathe, okay, you're not

2868
02:33:30,120 --> 02:33:32,640
Speaker 16: going to pollute the air. Okay, here you're going to

2869
02:33:32,680 --> 02:33:35,720
Speaker 16: see but that is a divine force? Did our ancestors

2870
02:33:35,720 --> 02:33:37,360
Speaker 16: saw in that air?

2871
02:33:38,760 --> 02:33:38,880
Speaker 3: Right?

2872
02:33:38,959 --> 02:33:40,680
Speaker 1: Can hold up though? Right there, brother quays, You've got

2873
02:33:40,680 --> 02:33:42,119
Speaker 1: to step aside for a few moments and we come

2874
02:33:42,160 --> 02:33:44,960
Speaker 1: back though. Tell us what they ate? Did you guys,

2875
02:33:45,160 --> 02:33:47,720
Speaker 1: do you participate? Did you eat what they ate? How

2876
02:33:47,760 --> 02:33:49,800
Speaker 1: did they you know? How do they get their food? Exact?

2877
02:33:50,480 --> 02:33:52,640
Speaker 1: Of course it's Noel McDonald's, a burger king and stuff

2878
02:33:52,680 --> 02:33:55,440
Speaker 1: like that. There they're out there. What did they eat?

2879
02:33:55,480 --> 02:33:56,039
Speaker 1: That's that's what.

2880
02:33:58,320 --> 02:34:01,280
Speaker 8: Burger you know, right?

2881
02:34:01,480 --> 02:34:03,920
Speaker 1: So what did where? We come back? Were there the break?

2882
02:34:03,959 --> 02:34:06,520
Speaker 1: Tell us what they ate, how they got their food?

2883
02:34:06,560 --> 02:34:09,680
Speaker 1: And if you ate some of what they ate? Family,

2884
02:34:09,680 --> 02:34:12,920
Speaker 1: it's an interesting conversation, brother Asher Equasi here about what's

2885
02:34:12,920 --> 02:34:15,000
Speaker 1: going on in the Omo Valley. Some of our brothers

2886
02:34:15,000 --> 02:34:17,560
Speaker 1: and sisters still there in that part of Ethiopia, and

2887
02:34:17,560 --> 02:34:20,480
Speaker 1: they still live, how they lived years ago. What are

2888
02:34:20,520 --> 02:34:22,520
Speaker 1: your thoughts? You want to join the discussion, reach out

2889
02:34:22,560 --> 02:34:24,959
Speaker 1: to us at eight hundred four or five zero seventy

2890
02:34:25,000 --> 02:34:28,000
Speaker 1: eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls next

2891
02:34:28,400 --> 02:34:30,879
Speaker 1: And Grand Rising family, thanks for staying with us this

2892
02:34:31,000 --> 02:34:33,640
Speaker 1: morning with our guest, the brother Ashra Aquasi. The master

2893
02:34:33,720 --> 02:34:37,000
Speaker 1: teach us in the classroom before we left though he's

2894
02:34:37,040 --> 02:34:39,119
Speaker 1: giving us a report for his visit to the Omar

2895
02:34:39,320 --> 02:34:42,600
Speaker 1: Valley in Ethiopia where you roll back the hands of time,

2896
02:34:42,640 --> 02:34:45,320
Speaker 1: this where brothers and sisters still live. And my question

2897
02:34:45,360 --> 02:34:47,199
Speaker 1: to him before the break was what did they eat?

2898
02:34:47,760 --> 02:34:51,120
Speaker 1: And brother kese Quasi did you did you eat what

2899
02:34:51,160 --> 02:34:51,600
Speaker 1: they ate?

2900
02:34:52,240 --> 02:34:55,720
Speaker 16: Well, when we went to the door sag when brother

2901
02:34:55,720 --> 02:34:57,480
Speaker 16: Tomarco was on, he was speaking as a door say

2902
02:34:57,480 --> 02:35:02,200
Speaker 16: and how they use all the banana banana plants and

2903
02:35:02,440 --> 02:35:06,840
Speaker 16: for billing their tucu's and used everything and uh and

2904
02:35:07,000 --> 02:35:10,320
Speaker 16: Jara is one of the most famous grains.

2905
02:35:10,480 --> 02:35:10,640
Speaker 2: Uh.

2906
02:35:10,760 --> 02:35:13,760
Speaker 16: This's an epopia this uh in jared. Those are familiar

2907
02:35:13,800 --> 02:35:16,600
Speaker 16: with the Ethiopian food, then Jera is like a road grain.

2908
02:35:17,360 --> 02:35:19,000
Speaker 16: She eat the food. So we were in with the

2909
02:35:19,040 --> 02:35:22,200
Speaker 16: dor say and we sit there and U right out

2910
02:35:22,200 --> 02:35:25,680
Speaker 16: in the open where she uh, our dorsa sister. She

2911
02:35:25,879 --> 02:35:28,760
Speaker 16: sit there and she made one of the injarras and

2912
02:35:29,800 --> 02:35:32,000
Speaker 16: went through the whole process of making it. And then

2913
02:35:32,040 --> 02:35:34,840
Speaker 16: we all sit together and uh and ate the uh

2914
02:35:35,120 --> 02:35:38,560
Speaker 16: and jar with one of our brothers who who was

2915
02:35:38,760 --> 02:35:41,520
Speaker 16: who was living there, whose family has been there. He

2916
02:35:41,640 --> 02:35:45,920
Speaker 16: came from Jamaica years ago and uh as a young person,

2917
02:35:46,000 --> 02:35:48,480
Speaker 16: he pretty much grew up with the dors the Dorsey

2918
02:35:48,800 --> 02:35:51,760
Speaker 16: in this village that we that we were at. So

2919
02:35:53,959 --> 02:35:55,440
Speaker 16: sorry for this cold brother Carl, you.

2920
02:35:55,400 --> 02:35:58,400
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, yeah, but I understand the goal. But brother

2921
02:35:58,480 --> 02:36:01,080
Speaker 1: question no plates, no knife and explain that.

2922
02:36:01,480 --> 02:36:03,600
Speaker 16: No, no, you no, you don't eat with nile knives

2923
02:36:03,640 --> 02:36:06,520
Speaker 16: and force. I mean, that's that's again. Uh, Like I

2924
02:36:06,560 --> 02:36:10,120
Speaker 16: said before, we're uh you know, this is the Western world,

2925
02:36:10,200 --> 02:36:10,400
Speaker 16: you know.

2926
02:36:10,720 --> 02:36:10,879
Speaker 14: Uh.

2927
02:36:10,879 --> 02:36:12,440
Speaker 16: They let they have their own world.

2928
02:36:12,440 --> 02:36:12,959
Speaker 14: That's what I said.

2929
02:36:12,959 --> 02:36:16,040
Speaker 16: They are free to have. Everything they have is natural

2930
02:36:16,080 --> 02:36:19,800
Speaker 16: that they made. So uh and even in Ethiopia even today,

2931
02:36:20,400 --> 02:36:22,680
Speaker 16: keep in mind that. Uh. And let me say also

2932
02:36:23,360 --> 02:36:28,400
Speaker 16: that in Addis Ababa, the the Omo valley is is

2933
02:36:28,480 --> 02:36:31,080
Speaker 16: different to them, just like it is to us. All right,

2934
02:36:31,160 --> 02:36:34,080
Speaker 16: So even though we're in the people brothers and sisters

2935
02:36:34,120 --> 02:36:37,520
Speaker 16: are like the Amharic people, okay, the t Graye people.

2936
02:36:38,000 --> 02:36:38,080
Speaker 15: Uh.

2937
02:36:38,120 --> 02:36:40,600
Speaker 16: The Omo valley is still even very different to them

2938
02:36:40,720 --> 02:36:41,200
Speaker 16: as well.

2939
02:36:41,360 --> 02:36:41,760
Speaker 14: All right.

2940
02:36:42,160 --> 02:36:46,080
Speaker 16: So but again even in Ethiopia today, when you sit

2941
02:36:46,160 --> 02:36:49,200
Speaker 16: and eat, you eat with this in jail, all right,

2942
02:36:49,280 --> 02:36:51,880
Speaker 16: you have the in ja. It's like the royal grain

2943
02:36:52,040 --> 02:36:54,320
Speaker 16: is just referred to as in jarra and everybody in

2944
02:36:54,400 --> 02:36:57,199
Speaker 16: many cases people it's a big plate where everybody eats together,

2945
02:36:57,360 --> 02:37:00,720
Speaker 16: eat eats together, right, that is the traditional way Bethiopia.

2946
02:37:00,959 --> 02:37:04,520
Speaker 16: Everybody's collectively eating together. They don't have separate dishes. So

2947
02:37:05,200 --> 02:37:07,840
Speaker 16: we ate the jar that our sister made, and uh

2948
02:37:08,080 --> 02:37:09,200
Speaker 16: it was, it was very good.

2949
02:37:09,440 --> 02:37:09,600
Speaker 9: Uh.

2950
02:37:09,640 --> 02:37:13,119
Speaker 16: In Jared, of course there are many other uh. Being

2951
02:37:13,120 --> 02:37:16,440
Speaker 16: an agricultural people who live there. They have many other

2952
02:37:16,720 --> 02:37:20,080
Speaker 16: grains and corns and and others. And they drink a

2953
02:37:20,080 --> 02:37:21,600
Speaker 16: lot of the cow's milk as well.

2954
02:37:22,200 --> 02:37:22,280
Speaker 3: Uh.

2955
02:37:22,480 --> 02:37:25,279
Speaker 16: And keep in mind, we didn't see no one overweight,

2956
02:37:25,520 --> 02:37:27,959
Speaker 16: all right, uh, ob city, we did not see that.

2957
02:37:27,959 --> 02:37:29,440
Speaker 16: I didn't see that at all. I mean, it's one

2958
02:37:29,480 --> 02:37:31,680
Speaker 16: of the things I observe is that you didn't see

2959
02:37:31,680 --> 02:37:36,160
Speaker 16: any overweight people walking around, okay barely waddling trying to

2960
02:37:36,200 --> 02:37:39,120
Speaker 16: walk becross their overweight and like you said earlier, no

2961
02:37:39,240 --> 02:37:42,640
Speaker 16: you didn't have mcmaggot burger, killer burger, you know, Uh,

2962
02:37:42,840 --> 02:37:45,039
Speaker 16: Kentucky died none of that. I mean that was that

2963
02:37:45,200 --> 02:37:47,320
Speaker 16: was one of the beautiful things about being You didn't

2964
02:37:47,320 --> 02:37:49,760
Speaker 16: see none of that kind of madness, all right, So

2965
02:37:49,840 --> 02:37:53,000
Speaker 16: this is the sickness that we're dying from seeing that,

2966
02:37:53,200 --> 02:37:55,520
Speaker 16: uh and seeing the uh those some of the things

2967
02:37:55,520 --> 02:37:59,560
Speaker 16: that we observed. Okay, is uh looking at the brothers

2968
02:37:59,560 --> 02:38:04,360
Speaker 16: and sisters skin, Okay, how bright and glowing their skin.

2969
02:38:05,160 --> 02:38:07,440
Speaker 16: These are some of the things that we also observed.

2970
02:38:07,640 --> 02:38:10,200
Speaker 16: Keep in mind that each group was different, all right.

2971
02:38:10,320 --> 02:38:13,119
Speaker 16: So we had to travel, as I said earlier, from

2972
02:38:13,160 --> 02:38:16,560
Speaker 16: one place to another place. It was a good distance.

2973
02:38:17,879 --> 02:38:21,199
Speaker 16: It was a lot better at this time versus twenty

2974
02:38:21,320 --> 02:38:23,720
Speaker 16: years ago, where they didn't have a lot of paved roads.

2975
02:38:23,720 --> 02:38:25,520
Speaker 16: So there are a lot of paved roads now because

2976
02:38:25,560 --> 02:38:27,600
Speaker 16: like our brothers said earlier, you got a lot of

2977
02:38:27,600 --> 02:38:29,920
Speaker 16: these Europeans coming there. Now we're not coming there, but

2978
02:38:29,959 --> 02:38:33,920
Speaker 16: a lot of Europeans are coming there and coming there

2979
02:38:34,000 --> 02:38:37,760
Speaker 16: desecrating the culture, all right, and you know, in some

2980
02:38:37,840 --> 02:38:42,920
Speaker 16: cases doing all kinds of you know, bringing kind of negative,

2981
02:38:43,120 --> 02:38:47,000
Speaker 16: negative things to the culture. So These are some of

2982
02:38:47,000 --> 02:38:49,520
Speaker 16: the things that are taking place. But the biggest thing

2983
02:38:49,600 --> 02:38:55,119
Speaker 16: right now, this affecting the culture again are the missionaries

2984
02:38:55,280 --> 02:38:59,560
Speaker 16: and also the government literally taking their land away and

2985
02:38:59,600 --> 02:39:02,320
Speaker 16: giving it to foreigners, all right, or leasing it out

2986
02:39:02,320 --> 02:39:06,080
Speaker 16: to foreigners anyway, to build these plantations. And that's one

2987
02:39:06,080 --> 02:39:09,240
Speaker 16: of the biggest threads. Its equally causing in fighting among

2988
02:39:09,280 --> 02:39:13,120
Speaker 16: themselves because now the resources are now being dwindled and

2989
02:39:13,160 --> 02:39:16,880
Speaker 16: they are now fighting over. At one time plenty of

2990
02:39:16,959 --> 02:39:20,199
Speaker 16: land for everybody, but now the land has been taken away.

2991
02:39:21,320 --> 02:39:25,520
Speaker 16: So each culture had its own way. One was different

2992
02:39:25,560 --> 02:39:28,920
Speaker 16: than the other. Us where as we mentioned like the

2993
02:39:29,720 --> 02:39:33,080
Speaker 16: dor Say people, they were you know, very colorful, where

2994
02:39:33,080 --> 02:39:37,320
Speaker 16: a lot of beads. Also like the the Descinet people

2995
02:39:37,360 --> 02:39:41,360
Speaker 16: to carol people. Uh, each one had something that was

2996
02:39:41,400 --> 02:39:43,640
Speaker 16: different than the other. One interesting group was called the

2997
02:39:44,240 --> 02:39:47,480
Speaker 16: Bena people. And they they walked around on stilts, these

2998
02:39:47,640 --> 02:39:51,160
Speaker 16: these tall stilts, all right. They these brothers were walking

2999
02:39:51,200 --> 02:39:55,080
Speaker 16: around and some of some said that they have these

3000
02:39:55,120 --> 02:39:57,440
Speaker 16: stilts because they have to walk in the forest a lot,

3001
02:39:57,520 --> 02:39:59,560
Speaker 16: all right, so they.

3002
02:39:59,440 --> 02:40:00,000
Speaker 8: Would not be.

3003
02:40:01,520 --> 02:40:04,560
Speaker 16: Like animals or snakes or something like that. So they

3004
02:40:04,600 --> 02:40:06,840
Speaker 16: walked around on these stilts. So we were traveling down

3005
02:40:06,920 --> 02:40:10,240
Speaker 16: the road and here is these brothers on these these

3006
02:40:10,040 --> 02:40:14,760
Speaker 16: these massive tall stilts that they were on and moving along,

3007
02:40:14,920 --> 02:40:16,800
Speaker 16: you know very quickly on the stilts are made out

3008
02:40:16,840 --> 02:40:19,960
Speaker 16: of trees too, by the way. So I mean it

3009
02:40:20,080 --> 02:40:21,920
Speaker 16: was I mean a great I mean, just to be

3010
02:40:22,040 --> 02:40:24,760
Speaker 16: in a place outside of this this place that we know,

3011
02:40:25,480 --> 02:40:28,119
Speaker 16: I mean, that is that alone gave you a whole

3012
02:40:28,200 --> 02:40:32,600
Speaker 16: other feeling and experience to know that they're brothers and

3013
02:40:32,640 --> 02:40:35,320
Speaker 16: sisters who live in the world, and that world is

3014
02:40:35,360 --> 02:40:39,680
Speaker 16: totally made by them, okay. And the respect that they

3015
02:40:39,760 --> 02:40:44,280
Speaker 16: had for the natural life, okay, that gave us life.

3016
02:40:44,320 --> 02:40:47,760
Speaker 16: As I said earlier, you know air shoe okay, and

3017
02:40:48,640 --> 02:40:51,040
Speaker 16: water noon that our ancestors called it, referred to as

3018
02:40:51,120 --> 02:40:54,040
Speaker 16: chemic gabbed the earth. These are the natural elemental forces

3019
02:40:54,080 --> 02:40:58,720
Speaker 16: are being destroyed, okay by barbarians who have no respect

3020
02:40:58,720 --> 02:41:01,440
Speaker 16: for these natural forces. So how when people run around

3021
02:41:01,520 --> 02:41:04,280
Speaker 16: talk about God okay, and God this and God that,

3022
02:41:04,800 --> 02:41:07,840
Speaker 16: But yet you don't respect the natural divine forces of

3023
02:41:07,920 --> 02:41:10,720
Speaker 16: life that gave us life, okay, that comes from that

3024
02:41:10,840 --> 02:41:14,680
Speaker 16: divine life. They still live in that world. They still

3025
02:41:14,720 --> 02:41:18,320
Speaker 16: live in that natural life, all right. But see when

3026
02:41:18,360 --> 02:41:21,480
Speaker 16: we come there some of us, not all of us,

3027
02:41:21,520 --> 02:41:26,400
Speaker 16: but many people come there the Europeans or program where

3028
02:41:26,360 --> 02:41:28,680
Speaker 16: they're pagan and heathen. So we got to bring Jesus

3029
02:41:28,760 --> 02:41:34,040
Speaker 16: to them. Okay, this is what will destroy the culture,

3030
02:41:34,360 --> 02:41:37,720
Speaker 16: as in some cases is destroyed some of us and

3031
02:41:37,800 --> 02:41:41,200
Speaker 16: even destroyed our minds and taking away our own black

3032
02:41:41,200 --> 02:41:44,840
Speaker 16: divinity all right, that we can't see anymore because of

3033
02:41:44,840 --> 02:41:47,960
Speaker 16: what the Western world has done to us. So one

3034
02:41:48,000 --> 02:41:52,720
Speaker 16: thing that I can see with them, all right, everything

3035
02:41:52,840 --> 02:41:57,760
Speaker 16: in their world they created. So when we look around

3036
02:41:57,800 --> 02:42:00,400
Speaker 16: and we have to ask, okay, we're living being in

3037
02:42:00,480 --> 02:42:04,600
Speaker 16: this bubble with this European world all right, everything around us,

3038
02:42:04,959 --> 02:42:08,600
Speaker 16: all right, and then we're contaminated by it and being

3039
02:42:08,640 --> 02:42:12,240
Speaker 16: destroyed by it, all right. As our brother said earlier,

3040
02:42:12,320 --> 02:42:14,840
Speaker 16: what our children are going through all right, because we

3041
02:42:14,879 --> 02:42:18,800
Speaker 16: don't have any control, all right. Everything that's happening to

3042
02:42:18,920 --> 02:42:23,680
Speaker 16: us is coming down through what they are pretty much

3043
02:42:23,879 --> 02:42:26,879
Speaker 16: dictating and saying how you should live, or how you

3044
02:42:26,879 --> 02:42:29,400
Speaker 16: should teach your children and so forth, as our brother

3045
02:42:29,520 --> 02:42:32,960
Speaker 16: was saying earlier. So I had to bring that up

3046
02:42:32,959 --> 02:42:34,199
Speaker 16: as well, all.

3047
02:42:34,160 --> 02:42:36,240
Speaker 1: Right, and hold up all right there, brother twenty eight

3048
02:42:36,240 --> 02:42:38,520
Speaker 1: a half the top jeans calling from Pikesville has a

3049
02:42:38,600 --> 02:42:41,800
Speaker 1: question for Asha online one grand rising GENI your question

3050
02:42:41,840 --> 02:42:43,000
Speaker 1: for a brother, asked Aquasi.

3051
02:42:44,000 --> 02:42:44,200
Speaker 16: Yeah.

3052
02:42:44,600 --> 02:42:48,200
Speaker 17: My question here is, you know, I really appreciate your

3053
02:42:48,200 --> 02:42:51,800
Speaker 17: black history mother than you letting us know about anti

3054
02:42:52,080 --> 02:42:56,560
Speaker 17: antiquity and you know, the origination of God concept and

3055
02:42:56,600 --> 02:43:01,320
Speaker 17: so forth. But I mentioned yes, and so when you

3056
02:43:01,360 --> 02:43:06,840
Speaker 17: mentioned Menanik, the son of Queeneshiba and his father was

3057
02:43:07,480 --> 02:43:12,360
Speaker 17: uh Solomon Uh and his father was David. You you know,

3058
02:43:12,480 --> 02:43:16,000
Speaker 17: you conjure well for me, it conjures up that when

3059
02:43:16,040 --> 02:43:21,119
Speaker 17: the Europeans came in, they were when I'm sorry, well

3060
02:43:21,160 --> 02:43:21,920
Speaker 17: they were Africans.

3061
02:43:21,959 --> 02:43:22,600
Speaker 3: He does.

3062
02:43:23,240 --> 02:43:27,920
Speaker 17: But anyway, so so because they what I'm sorry, so

3063
02:43:29,360 --> 02:43:30,080
Speaker 17: what what?

3064
02:43:30,080 --> 02:43:31,680
Speaker 3: What? Just what?

3065
02:43:31,879 --> 02:43:35,280
Speaker 17: They Hebrew? What they Hebrew? But what day Hebrew? The

3066
02:43:35,360 --> 02:43:38,080
Speaker 17: son the Menadic was the son of Solomon.

3067
02:43:37,640 --> 02:43:39,040
Speaker 6: So they were Hebrew, right, right?

3068
02:43:41,200 --> 02:43:41,920
Speaker 16: Okay, go ahead.

3069
02:43:42,320 --> 02:43:44,400
Speaker 17: So my question to you is a reference to when

3070
02:43:44,440 --> 02:43:49,360
Speaker 17: you talk about Jesus and the Catholicism and so forth,

3071
02:43:49,560 --> 02:43:50,440
Speaker 17: when did that happen?

3072
02:43:50,480 --> 02:43:52,760
Speaker 16: When when did the when did the Okay, we'll see

3073
02:43:52,760 --> 02:43:55,240
Speaker 16: where we're talking about two different worlds, now, Okay, I

3074
02:43:55,480 --> 02:43:58,480
Speaker 16: pretty much when I was talking about Evop, I was

3075
02:43:58,520 --> 02:44:03,080
Speaker 16: talking about the contrasts and diversity of the culture as

3076
02:44:03,120 --> 02:44:05,760
Speaker 16: well as the history of Ethiopia. And I didn't really

3077
02:44:05,760 --> 02:44:09,119
Speaker 16: get into the history. Well I know, I didn't get

3078
02:44:09,120 --> 02:44:11,280
Speaker 16: into the history of that part, and I didn't want

3079
02:44:11,320 --> 02:44:13,439
Speaker 16: to at this point because I wanted to give emphasis

3080
02:44:13,440 --> 02:44:16,000
Speaker 16: on the on the cultural side of Ethiopia. Now we

3081
02:44:16,120 --> 02:44:19,039
Speaker 16: deal with us, I said, and my educational tours, well,

3082
02:44:19,120 --> 02:44:20,560
Speaker 16: let me let me ask you your question.

3083
02:44:20,600 --> 02:44:22,520
Speaker 17: But no, no, no, no, no, no no, I'm going to jump

3084
02:44:22,560 --> 02:44:25,000
Speaker 17: off because you are You're explaining what you were doing

3085
02:44:25,000 --> 02:44:28,039
Speaker 17: and I might be a hindrance to the past that

3086
02:44:28,080 --> 02:44:29,640
Speaker 17: you're following, so you know, just thank you.

3087
02:44:29,959 --> 02:44:32,240
Speaker 16: But but I mean I've lectured on that. I mean,

3088
02:44:32,280 --> 02:44:35,879
Speaker 16: I'm not I'm not dismissing it. I've lectured on that

3089
02:44:36,040 --> 02:44:39,039
Speaker 16: and depth in our educational tour that we do in Ethiopia.

3090
02:44:39,040 --> 02:44:41,600
Speaker 16: I lecture every day with PowerPoint lecture. My wife and

3091
02:44:41,640 --> 02:44:44,760
Speaker 16: I my wife Mary Ross, she loves to deal with

3092
02:44:44,800 --> 02:44:47,280
Speaker 16: the history of the Emperor's right to which she does

3093
02:44:47,320 --> 02:44:50,320
Speaker 16: an excellent job. Well, anybody that's interested in that, you

3094
02:44:50,320 --> 02:44:52,640
Speaker 16: can go to our website at KEMMI knew as K

3095
02:44:52,920 --> 02:44:56,039
Speaker 16: E M E T n U dot com and you

3096
02:44:56,040 --> 02:44:58,680
Speaker 16: can get the Ethiopia from the ancient Kushite to the

3097
02:44:58,680 --> 02:45:02,000
Speaker 16: Black Lions. It's a DVD both me and my wife, Okay,

3098
02:45:02,680 --> 02:45:05,360
Speaker 16: which I'm dealing with the ancient history that you're talking about,

3099
02:45:05,560 --> 02:45:10,320
Speaker 16: the historical information going back to Mikada okay, also known

3100
02:45:10,360 --> 02:45:13,760
Speaker 16: as Sheba as the Arab referred to as Belkus, all right,

3101
02:45:13,840 --> 02:45:16,360
Speaker 16: and then her Sun a minute at the first Okay,

3102
02:45:16,400 --> 02:45:18,920
Speaker 16: through the union of Mekeda and Solomon and so forth.

3103
02:45:19,320 --> 02:45:23,600
Speaker 16: That's part of the history of the Axomite civilization of Ethiopia, Okay,

3104
02:45:23,680 --> 02:45:27,240
Speaker 16: up in the t Gray region, which those great stellars

3105
02:45:27,240 --> 02:45:30,160
Speaker 16: are up there. In fact, these stellars are even larger

3106
02:45:30,200 --> 02:45:33,039
Speaker 16: than the techanous of ancient kimt where those are familiar with.

3107
02:45:33,560 --> 02:45:35,960
Speaker 16: You may know about the name of the Oblis, all right.

3108
02:45:36,959 --> 02:45:41,120
Speaker 16: But even in that historical part of Ethiopia, okay, which

3109
02:45:41,160 --> 02:45:43,360
Speaker 16: is totally different from the omobile that I was talking

3110
02:45:43,400 --> 02:45:48,520
Speaker 16: about earlier, we can again see that even in the

3111
02:45:48,560 --> 02:45:52,879
Speaker 16: historical part of Euiopia, how that culture is all one

3112
02:45:53,200 --> 02:46:00,400
Speaker 16: African Kushite, Committic, Aximite male Redic now Valley civilization. And

3113
02:46:00,440 --> 02:46:04,600
Speaker 16: that's what we do on that educational tour that's open

3114
02:46:04,680 --> 02:46:07,760
Speaker 16: to everybody, all right, on that tour that we do

3115
02:46:08,480 --> 02:46:11,160
Speaker 16: with Ethiopia. So and we show the comparison. And what's

3116
02:46:11,160 --> 02:46:15,200
Speaker 16: the most popular about the historical route of Ethiopia that

3117
02:46:15,320 --> 02:46:18,440
Speaker 16: most people are familiar with is Lollabella. Okay, it's Lollabella

3118
02:46:18,520 --> 02:46:22,080
Speaker 16: is mainly because of the Negus okay, I mean and

3119
02:46:22,200 --> 02:46:27,640
Speaker 16: King Lollabella, which they were involved in. The emperors were

3120
02:46:27,680 --> 02:46:30,520
Speaker 16: involved in building eleven churches there. But what makes these

3121
02:46:30,600 --> 02:46:34,440
Speaker 16: churches unique and different from anything that we've seen in

3122
02:46:34,480 --> 02:46:36,879
Speaker 16: the Western world is the fact that they are carved

3123
02:46:36,959 --> 02:46:41,840
Speaker 16: deep forty feet down into the earth. I mean spectacular,

3124
02:46:41,959 --> 02:46:46,680
Speaker 16: I mean just magnificent. And they may even predate even

3125
02:46:46,720 --> 02:46:50,520
Speaker 16: the Christian era as well. But the civilization of the

3126
02:46:50,680 --> 02:46:55,120
Speaker 16: historical Ethiopia goes back to the African Aximites, all right,

3127
02:46:55,600 --> 02:46:59,640
Speaker 16: that they gave rise after the male retic civilization, all right.

3128
02:46:59,760 --> 02:47:03,760
Speaker 16: And then the Christianity starts with the emperor or Negus Zana,

3129
02:47:04,400 --> 02:47:08,480
Speaker 16: all right, and that starts the Christian part of Ethiopia.

3130
02:47:08,520 --> 02:47:12,680
Speaker 16: Even though the Christianity that came into Ethiopia came in

3131
02:47:12,760 --> 02:47:16,120
Speaker 16: by way of meataway through the Conducas Queen Candace. But

3132
02:47:16,320 --> 02:47:19,160
Speaker 16: those of us who know the Bible. You know her

3133
02:47:19,240 --> 02:47:21,200
Speaker 16: as Candace in the Bible, but she is known as

3134
02:47:21,200 --> 02:47:26,200
Speaker 16: a Kentucka okay, that is the mayor ready Queen. And

3135
02:47:26,240 --> 02:47:30,320
Speaker 16: that's how Ethiopia got his influence through Christianity. But what

3136
02:47:30,480 --> 02:47:34,920
Speaker 16: makes Ethiopia unique in terms of those who are in

3137
02:47:35,360 --> 02:47:41,440
Speaker 16: the sphere or realm of Judaic, Christian religion and so forth,

3138
02:47:41,680 --> 02:47:45,960
Speaker 16: is that you know, it had an early hebrew beginning, okay,

3139
02:47:45,959 --> 02:47:49,400
Speaker 16: because of me Caida and Menelichta first, who brought the

3140
02:47:49,480 --> 02:47:52,280
Speaker 16: stories told. He brought the Ark of the Covenant into Ethiopia,

3141
02:47:52,959 --> 02:47:55,760
Speaker 16: and up in the t Gray region you have the

3142
02:47:56,560 --> 02:47:59,040
Speaker 16: church there that has it was supposed to have the

3143
02:47:59,080 --> 02:48:02,480
Speaker 16: original arc of but that's part of the history and

3144
02:48:02,520 --> 02:48:04,720
Speaker 16: the faith of the people of the Ark of the Covenant.

3145
02:48:05,520 --> 02:48:09,440
Speaker 16: But I do that now Valley civilization comparison to show

3146
02:48:09,520 --> 02:48:12,640
Speaker 16: that the arcs is ancient. It does not start at

3147
02:48:12,640 --> 02:48:14,880
Speaker 16: that time period with the Hebrews. You've got the arcs

3148
02:48:15,440 --> 02:48:19,240
Speaker 16: and Kemmi okay, and also Cush you got the arc

3149
02:48:19,320 --> 02:48:21,800
Speaker 16: of Amen. You've got the arc of a set. So

3150
02:48:21,840 --> 02:48:24,320
Speaker 16: there was always an arc or a holy place or

3151
02:48:24,440 --> 02:48:28,440
Speaker 16: Amnu or hollies or holies in the temples. So you know,

3152
02:48:28,680 --> 02:48:31,640
Speaker 16: that's part of the historical information that we deal with.

3153
02:48:32,120 --> 02:48:36,680
Speaker 16: But the Oldmo Valley, this is going way back before

3154
02:48:37,000 --> 02:48:41,640
Speaker 16: any religions, okay, even existed. Here we see the natural

3155
02:48:41,800 --> 02:48:46,279
Speaker 16: spiritual life, the natural spirituality, and it's from that spirituality

3156
02:48:46,800 --> 02:48:49,200
Speaker 16: that's how religion got this beginning. There would not be

3157
02:48:49,200 --> 02:48:54,280
Speaker 16: any religion without spirituality, okay. And fact one can go

3158
02:48:54,440 --> 02:48:58,520
Speaker 16: far as to say that spirituality was corrupted through Western

3159
02:48:58,680 --> 02:49:01,560
Speaker 16: version of relige and what they have done to it,

3160
02:49:01,640 --> 02:49:05,200
Speaker 16: through the dogma and through the deification of them salves,

3161
02:49:05,480 --> 02:49:08,879
Speaker 16: all right, And I'd say through the deification of them

3162
02:49:08,920 --> 02:49:12,240
Speaker 16: salves because of the images and the representation excuse me,

3163
02:49:13,080 --> 02:49:16,440
Speaker 16: because of this band code I got and the images

3164
02:49:16,440 --> 02:49:19,800
Speaker 16: and the representations that they have is of them salves

3165
02:49:19,959 --> 02:49:22,440
Speaker 16: for the deification of them sales. So they use religion

3166
02:49:22,440 --> 02:49:26,800
Speaker 16: as a weapon, a weapon of mass destruction on the

3167
02:49:26,840 --> 02:49:31,000
Speaker 16: minds of African people all over the world and especially

3168
02:49:31,160 --> 02:49:33,640
Speaker 16: with many of us in this country. And many people

3169
02:49:33,680 --> 02:49:37,720
Speaker 16: can't accept that, okay, because we've been brainwashed. This is

3170
02:49:37,760 --> 02:49:39,680
Speaker 16: the only thing we have known. Now, when I come

3171
02:49:39,720 --> 02:49:43,480
Speaker 16: back in March, I'm going to deal with I think

3172
02:49:43,520 --> 02:49:45,480
Speaker 16: maybe Carl will have the two separate actions because you've

3173
02:49:45,480 --> 02:49:49,360
Speaker 16: got Judaism, the Passover, and you got the resurrection. Okay,

3174
02:49:49,520 --> 02:49:54,480
Speaker 16: either I can deal with one program with both of them,

3175
02:49:54,560 --> 02:49:56,800
Speaker 16: or I can deal with two separate programs and hopefully

3176
02:49:56,800 --> 02:49:58,320
Speaker 16: I won't have a code so I can talk.

3177
02:49:59,560 --> 02:50:02,240
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, and hold that thought right there. We

3178
02:50:02,280 --> 02:50:05,080
Speaker 1: got to step aside for our last break. And also JR.

3179
02:50:05,120 --> 02:50:07,039
Speaker 1: And Ohio wants to speak to you, and again let

3180
02:50:07,040 --> 02:50:12,840
Speaker 1: me mention this Today's day fortieth anniversary Thescension of Charles French,

3181
02:50:12,920 --> 02:50:15,920
Speaker 1: doctor Charles Finch's and it's going to take place at

3182
02:50:15,920 --> 02:50:18,680
Speaker 1: eighteen sixteen twelve Street, Northwest d See. That's in the

3183
02:50:18,680 --> 02:50:21,360
Speaker 1: show district, the third Good Marshall Center, so you can

3184
02:50:21,600 --> 02:50:23,879
Speaker 1: look it up if you're in the DMV era. The

3185
02:50:23,920 --> 02:50:26,560
Speaker 1: doors would open at five thirty and the event starts

3186
02:50:26,560 --> 02:50:29,400
Speaker 1: at six. That's for doctor Charles Finch who made his

3187
02:50:30,040 --> 02:50:33,280
Speaker 1: transition forty days ago. Anyway, as I make sure, we

3188
02:50:33,320 --> 02:50:34,800
Speaker 1: got to step aside for a few moments, we come

3189
02:50:34,840 --> 02:50:37,760
Speaker 1: back and Jr's got a question for ashra Quasi. You

3190
02:50:37,840 --> 02:50:39,760
Speaker 1: two want to join the conversation, hit us up at

3191
02:50:39,760 --> 02:50:42,840
Speaker 1: eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy six

3192
02:50:42,879 --> 02:50:45,680
Speaker 1: and the ticket phone calls next and Grand Rising family,

3193
02:50:45,680 --> 02:50:48,040
Speaker 1: thanks for rolling with us on this Thursday morning. Guest,

3194
02:50:48,080 --> 02:50:50,440
Speaker 1: the brother ashra Quasi is the master the teachers in

3195
02:50:50,480 --> 02:50:52,760
Speaker 1: the classroom. Right now, before we go back to the minstry,

3196
02:50:52,720 --> 02:50:54,720
Speaker 1: remind you tomorrow is Friday, so we invite you to

3197
02:50:54,800 --> 02:50:56,959
Speaker 1: join us for our open phone Friday program. We can,

3198
02:50:57,240 --> 02:50:59,240
Speaker 1: you know, give you another chance to free mind. All

3199
02:50:59,240 --> 02:51:01,600
Speaker 1: that means you just think yourself, leave the talking points

3200
02:51:01,640 --> 02:51:04,120
Speaker 1: behind and just hit us up at eight hundred four

3201
02:51:04,320 --> 02:51:06,800
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight to seventy six and we'll ticket

3202
02:51:06,800 --> 02:51:09,480
Speaker 1: calls right here start at six o'clock in the morning

3203
02:51:09,560 --> 02:51:12,320
Speaker 1: right here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB and also

3204
02:51:12,320 --> 02:51:15,920
Speaker 1: in the DMV era where fourteen fifty WL so mentioned

3205
02:51:15,959 --> 02:51:17,800
Speaker 1: before we left for the break. Sister Jr. Has a

3206
02:51:17,879 --> 02:51:21,480
Speaker 1: question for Brother ashra Quacy. She's called from Ohio. She's

3207
02:51:21,520 --> 02:51:24,480
Speaker 1: on line four. Grand Rising Sister Jr. Your question for

3208
02:51:24,520 --> 02:51:25,279
Speaker 1: oshra Quasi.

3209
02:51:29,240 --> 02:51:35,160
Speaker 18: I want to give honor to Baba Kurt Standiferdy out

3210
02:51:35,200 --> 02:51:37,360
Speaker 18: of he would have been out of the Cincinnati and

3211
02:51:37,440 --> 02:51:41,840
Speaker 18: surrounding areas, very well known elder among the ancestors for

3212
02:51:42,080 --> 02:51:46,439
Speaker 18: with whom I wouldn't know about an ash walkway then

3213
02:51:46,480 --> 02:51:51,520
Speaker 18: Antonio Browner or anyone, so I always give thanks and

3214
02:51:51,600 --> 02:51:52,760
Speaker 18: honor to him as well.

3215
02:51:54,120 --> 02:51:55,440
Speaker 19: You mentioned.

3216
02:51:57,640 --> 02:52:01,840
Speaker 20: Doctor quay Z about the brothers over there and what

3217
02:52:01,959 --> 02:52:05,200
Speaker 20: to observed and how you know it was nothing to

3218
02:52:05,200 --> 02:52:09,920
Speaker 20: see sisters in their natural elements. And of course we're

3219
02:52:09,920 --> 02:52:12,800
Speaker 20: dealing with things far beyond whether we're just because over

3220
02:52:12,879 --> 02:52:16,920
Speaker 20: here the so called conscious brothers, they're always stuck on

3221
02:52:17,520 --> 02:52:20,960
Speaker 20: whether the sister's got a natural hair and all these things.

3222
02:52:21,320 --> 02:52:25,200
Speaker 20: And these are concerns of mine as well. But you know,

3223
02:52:25,280 --> 02:52:28,000
Speaker 20: women should talk to women about these things rather than

3224
02:52:28,040 --> 02:52:32,760
Speaker 20: having men always point fingers. But that said, I want

3225
02:52:32,800 --> 02:52:36,160
Speaker 20: to I like to to pointed out something that was

3226
02:52:36,400 --> 02:52:39,920
Speaker 20: different because rather than going into the angle about the sisters,

3227
02:52:39,920 --> 02:52:43,640
Speaker 20: and we know all the problems that that are amidst

3228
02:52:43,959 --> 02:52:46,640
Speaker 20: westernized sisters, and a lot of it's the gout over

3229
02:52:46,640 --> 02:52:50,080
Speaker 20: there on the continent too. I like that you took

3230
02:52:50,120 --> 02:52:53,600
Speaker 20: the opportunity in this speachable moment not saying that sisters

3231
02:52:53,640 --> 02:52:55,080
Speaker 20: don't have anythings to be taught.

3232
02:52:55,160 --> 02:53:00,680
Speaker 19: As well that to stress the men didn't look upon

3233
02:53:00,800 --> 02:53:05,240
Speaker 19: the sister and as you know, these these objects and

3234
02:53:05,320 --> 02:53:09,240
Speaker 19: they weren't upsetted with their breasts and perhaps they understand

3235
02:53:09,280 --> 02:53:12,840
Speaker 19: that breast were really meant for the infant. So if

3236
02:53:12,879 --> 02:53:18,480
Speaker 19: you have anything else further to speak on that whole

3237
02:53:18,720 --> 02:53:22,560
Speaker 19: idea of men and the protection of the sisters as

3238
02:53:22,600 --> 02:53:25,959
Speaker 19: well as you know, their recognition of what are just

3239
02:53:26,240 --> 02:53:30,000
Speaker 19: body parts and nothing more. I would love to hear

3240
02:53:30,040 --> 02:53:33,959
Speaker 19: any additional values on that that you might care to.

3241
02:53:35,040 --> 02:53:41,160
Speaker 16: You know, and I want to give respect to to

3242
02:53:41,440 --> 02:53:44,440
Speaker 16: my netor him that make work for the divine wife.

3243
02:53:44,720 --> 02:53:48,160
Speaker 16: Mary fact Mary Rour research those terms netor hedgement divine

3244
02:53:48,240 --> 02:53:52,160
Speaker 16: husband and netor hamp divine wife. She does great research

3245
02:53:52,320 --> 02:53:56,080
Speaker 16: on the African fashion and African women. And uh, in

3246
02:53:56,160 --> 02:53:59,400
Speaker 16: terms of the Olmo Valley, as I mentioned earlier, uh no,

3247
02:53:59,680 --> 02:54:02,039
Speaker 16: there was there was no problem at all. I mean

3248
02:54:02,120 --> 02:54:05,280
Speaker 16: you didn't have the men. They weren't obsessed, uh with

3249
02:54:05,440 --> 02:54:08,120
Speaker 16: the with the with the women, looking at the women

3250
02:54:08,280 --> 02:54:11,080
Speaker 16: and all those things that you would have here. But

3251
02:54:11,200 --> 02:54:15,000
Speaker 16: keep in mind that this perversion, the sexual perversion, this

3252
02:54:15,040 --> 02:54:18,560
Speaker 16: is what led into the sickness of uh uh you know,

3253
02:54:18,640 --> 02:54:22,280
Speaker 16: men wanting to rape a woman. And as I mentioned earlier,

3254
02:54:22,520 --> 02:54:26,080
Speaker 16: think of the ice uh the ice age, okay, think

3255
02:54:26,120 --> 02:54:29,400
Speaker 16: of Europe it being in the ice being fully clothed people.

3256
02:54:29,920 --> 02:54:30,360
Speaker 8: Okay.

3257
02:54:30,640 --> 02:54:34,359
Speaker 16: So now when you think of especially to Michael Brawley's

3258
02:54:34,520 --> 02:54:39,039
Speaker 16: book The Iceman Inheritance, Uh, well, she which the title

3259
02:54:39,040 --> 02:54:42,920
Speaker 16: of his book, Iceman Prehistoric Sources of Western Man's racism, sexism,

3260
02:54:42,920 --> 02:54:48,400
Speaker 16: and aggression. That his aggression okay, towards women coming out

3261
02:54:48,400 --> 02:54:51,320
Speaker 16: of that ice age, all right. Uh in terms of

3262
02:54:51,760 --> 02:54:55,320
Speaker 16: how he saw her, h how he wanted to have

3263
02:54:55,480 --> 02:54:59,560
Speaker 16: sex with her. Uh, it was a raping process, all right.

3264
02:55:00,520 --> 02:55:02,119
Speaker 16: She didn't know if you she was going to be

3265
02:55:02,120 --> 02:55:05,400
Speaker 16: beat okay or raped or right. Keep in mind, and

3266
02:55:05,560 --> 02:55:07,800
Speaker 16: I say, age, you're going to wear a lot of clothes,

3267
02:55:08,080 --> 02:55:10,160
Speaker 16: all right, and the sun belt you're not going to

3268
02:55:10,200 --> 02:55:13,480
Speaker 16: wear clothes. So out of that, you don't have a

3269
02:55:13,520 --> 02:55:16,000
Speaker 16: sexual perversion that you have today. You don't have a

3270
02:55:16,120 --> 02:55:21,560
Speaker 16: sickness okay of chaos. An ancient chemmate would because it's sped. Okay,

3271
02:55:21,760 --> 02:55:25,400
Speaker 16: it's sped. Was evil Okay, when you went against natural

3272
02:55:25,520 --> 02:55:29,400
Speaker 16: laws of the universe. What is what are the natural laws? Okay?

3273
02:55:29,440 --> 02:55:32,960
Speaker 16: That's the spiritual dialectical laws of opposite. So a person

3274
02:55:33,040 --> 02:55:38,080
Speaker 16: have a six sexual perversion, then you'll have this this

3275
02:55:38,640 --> 02:55:43,560
Speaker 16: it becomes obsession with that perversion of even to the

3276
02:55:43,600 --> 02:55:47,560
Speaker 16: point where men and men will get together, women and

3277
02:55:47,600 --> 02:55:52,360
Speaker 16: women okay, well well we'll we'll get together. So this

3278
02:55:52,440 --> 02:55:55,920
Speaker 16: is where the homosexuality, you know, comes from that even

3279
02:55:56,000 --> 02:55:59,920
Speaker 16: Plato talks about in Plato Symposium, where is coming out

3280
02:56:00,160 --> 02:56:04,640
Speaker 16: of European culture, where even Plato said, okay, the only

3281
02:56:04,680 --> 02:56:07,440
Speaker 16: thing that they saw women for was procreation, but their

3282
02:56:07,640 --> 02:56:13,080
Speaker 16: love was for another man. That's Plato in Plato Symposium.

3283
02:56:13,280 --> 02:56:16,720
Speaker 16: So this is the perversion when someone lives in a

3284
02:56:16,840 --> 02:56:22,960
Speaker 16: sickness of not recognizing natural life. So in the old

3285
02:56:23,000 --> 02:56:26,400
Speaker 16: mobiley as you were mentioned when you were mentioning my sister, Okay, no,

3286
02:56:26,520 --> 02:56:28,280
Speaker 16: you don't have that kind of you know, you don't

3287
02:56:28,280 --> 02:56:31,440
Speaker 16: have that kind of raping of women. You don't have

3288
02:56:31,600 --> 02:56:35,560
Speaker 16: the obsession of going at her breasts or or or

3289
02:56:35,600 --> 02:56:37,520
Speaker 16: try to take advantage of her. You don't have those

3290
02:56:37,600 --> 02:56:40,400
Speaker 16: kind of things, all right. They're not living in that

3291
02:56:40,560 --> 02:56:43,760
Speaker 16: type of sickness. So you have to look at the

3292
02:56:43,800 --> 02:56:48,080
Speaker 16: two worlds, all right, a sun belt and the ice age.

3293
02:56:49,240 --> 02:56:52,920
Speaker 16: Even with Mary rod Wills with how Europeans did even

3294
02:56:52,959 --> 02:56:56,960
Speaker 16: take baths, okay, a whole they would take pride and

3295
02:56:57,040 --> 02:56:59,119
Speaker 16: not taking a whole bath for a whole year, all right,

3296
02:56:59,320 --> 02:57:02,039
Speaker 16: keeping her. So this is the kind of a culture

3297
02:57:02,080 --> 02:57:05,280
Speaker 16: that we're dealing with and can't relate to when we

3298
02:57:05,320 --> 02:57:07,640
Speaker 16: come into a natural life. But when you get into

3299
02:57:07,680 --> 02:57:11,160
Speaker 16: a natural life, then you can see how perverted this

3300
02:57:11,240 --> 02:57:13,600
Speaker 16: world is today. That was the beauty of the Omo

3301
02:57:13,640 --> 02:57:16,959
Speaker 16: Valley that I saw that the natural world.

3302
02:57:17,640 --> 02:57:19,640
Speaker 1: And let me hear them for a second here, brother,

3303
02:57:20,120 --> 02:57:23,960
Speaker 1: did they back in ancient ancient did they have any

3304
02:57:24,000 --> 02:57:27,320
Speaker 1: crime at all?

3305
02:57:27,560 --> 02:57:29,400
Speaker 16: When we think of crime, what are we thinking of us?

3306
02:57:29,520 --> 02:57:31,120
Speaker 16: The crime do we know today? What kind of crime

3307
02:57:31,160 --> 02:57:33,840
Speaker 16: are we talking about? You're talking about crime? Are going around?

3308
02:57:33,879 --> 02:57:39,440
Speaker 16: Serial killers? Okay? People murdering each other? Okay? No, there's

3309
02:57:39,480 --> 02:57:42,360
Speaker 16: no recording of you know, serial killers and murderers and

3310
02:57:42,400 --> 02:57:45,520
Speaker 16: all those types of things an ancient Kimmid. I mean

3311
02:57:45,600 --> 02:57:47,520
Speaker 16: the crime that we think. See, we think when we

3312
02:57:47,560 --> 02:57:49,800
Speaker 16: think of the world, we think of the world that

3313
02:57:49,840 --> 02:57:52,760
Speaker 16: we know, brother Carl. And because we think of the

3314
02:57:52,800 --> 02:57:55,560
Speaker 16: world that we know, we think that everybody was like that.

3315
02:57:55,959 --> 02:57:58,360
Speaker 16: All right, So everything that we see in this world

3316
02:57:58,400 --> 02:58:01,320
Speaker 16: coming out of European world, think it's a normal. It

3317
02:58:01,320 --> 02:58:04,760
Speaker 16: becomes a norm to think that this is the way

3318
02:58:04,800 --> 02:58:08,520
Speaker 16: it's supposed to be. All right, even to the point like, look,

3319
02:58:08,520 --> 02:58:12,080
Speaker 16: how it's now a norm in some people's mind to

3320
02:58:12,200 --> 02:58:16,840
Speaker 16: see serial killers killing children in schools. That's almost like

3321
02:58:16,879 --> 02:58:19,560
Speaker 16: a norm now, you know. I mean only Party paid

3322
02:58:20,440 --> 02:58:24,320
Speaker 16: just killed thirty people in school, school children today, all right.

3323
02:58:25,000 --> 02:58:27,800
Speaker 16: So after a while being conditioned by that, then you

3324
02:58:27,920 --> 02:58:33,360
Speaker 16: think that, well, that culture of killing children in school

3325
02:58:33,400 --> 02:58:37,200
Speaker 16: is everywhere. It happened in ancient times. These are crimes

3326
02:58:37,200 --> 02:58:39,480
Speaker 16: has always happened. So that's how they try to program

3327
02:58:39,520 --> 02:58:42,120
Speaker 16: you their sickness. They try to make it a norm

3328
02:58:42,360 --> 02:58:45,000
Speaker 16: that it is normal, all right, when they know that

3329
02:58:45,040 --> 02:58:49,640
Speaker 16: their sickness is that's their sickness. It's not the world's sickness.

3330
02:58:49,800 --> 02:58:53,800
Speaker 16: Their perversion is their perversion, not the world's perversion, not

3331
02:58:53,920 --> 02:58:57,879
Speaker 16: ancient perversion, not the Old Mo Valley or African cultural

3332
02:58:57,959 --> 02:59:01,000
Speaker 16: history is not Africa. They want to impose it on

3333
02:59:01,120 --> 02:59:03,520
Speaker 16: Africa so it will look like it's a normal thing,

3334
02:59:04,520 --> 02:59:05,000
Speaker 16: but it's not.

3335
02:59:07,600 --> 02:59:10,840
Speaker 1: Gotcha. Ten away from the top, I guess is brother

3336
02:59:10,879 --> 02:59:13,200
Speaker 1: asked you got a question from reach Out to Us

3337
02:59:13,200 --> 02:59:16,520
Speaker 1: at eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy six.

3338
02:59:16,640 --> 02:59:19,560
Speaker 1: And now you take tours back to Egypt, back to Cammon.

3339
02:59:20,400 --> 02:59:22,320
Speaker 1: What are the next tour days.

3340
02:59:22,120 --> 02:59:24,920
Speaker 16: Since you have for us, yes, Mary, Ron and I.

3341
02:59:25,800 --> 02:59:27,560
Speaker 16: So we can have a balance, you know, as our

3342
02:59:27,600 --> 02:59:30,600
Speaker 16: ancestors said, the spiritual dialectical laws of opposites. I mean,

3343
02:59:30,680 --> 02:59:34,160
Speaker 16: she's been able to her lectures see things that I

3344
02:59:34,200 --> 02:59:36,720
Speaker 16: can't see. And so that's what makes it a balance.

3345
02:59:36,840 --> 02:59:39,760
Speaker 16: And by the way, Carl, we are black owned and operated,

3346
02:59:39,840 --> 02:59:43,440
Speaker 16: all right, when we contact Egypt, we are the ones

3347
02:59:43,440 --> 02:59:45,760
Speaker 16: who are negotiating to make sure that they're not sky

3348
02:59:45,959 --> 02:59:48,840
Speaker 16: rocking these prices. You got some black groups out there

3349
02:59:48,920 --> 02:59:54,080
Speaker 16: using these white agencies. Okay, ripping our people off skyrocketing

3350
02:59:54,120 --> 02:59:57,280
Speaker 16: is the price on our people. Okay, take it. Because

3351
02:59:57,320 --> 03:00:00,480
Speaker 16: if you've got a white agency and they're contacting Egypt,

3352
03:00:00,959 --> 03:00:03,400
Speaker 16: they give them that they're not fighting for the price,

3353
03:00:03,560 --> 03:00:06,440
Speaker 16: all right, they slap a price on them that white

3354
03:00:06,440 --> 03:00:09,760
Speaker 16: agency okay, takes that price. Then they slap their price

3355
03:00:09,800 --> 03:00:11,480
Speaker 16: on it, and then they give it to the person.

3356
03:00:11,560 --> 03:00:13,920
Speaker 16: So the person or the black person who's taking a

3357
03:00:13,920 --> 03:00:18,440
Speaker 16: group over Theagyar, they're just escorts. Okay, it's not their tour.

3358
03:00:19,160 --> 03:00:23,199
Speaker 16: And then worst of all, they put white agency name

3359
03:00:23,320 --> 03:00:27,560
Speaker 16: tags around their necks. And then then everybody talks about

3360
03:00:27,760 --> 03:00:31,920
Speaker 16: use black agents be black by black, do black and

3361
03:00:31,959 --> 03:00:34,920
Speaker 16: then profess, profess that they are black. When you take

3362
03:00:34,959 --> 03:00:37,120
Speaker 16: and do this kind of stuff and skyrocket the price,

3363
03:00:37,320 --> 03:00:40,520
Speaker 16: people are calling us and saying, crazy, how did you

3364
03:00:40,720 --> 03:00:42,160
Speaker 16: how you have your price so low?

3365
03:00:42,640 --> 03:00:43,720
Speaker 14: Because we don't.

3366
03:00:43,440 --> 03:00:45,880
Speaker 16: Have a white agency. My wife and I do this,

3367
03:00:46,920 --> 03:00:49,640
Speaker 16: and I can't understand why others don't do it. Why

3368
03:00:49,680 --> 03:00:52,160
Speaker 16: are they letting these white agencies rip us off? Or

3369
03:00:52,320 --> 03:00:56,039
Speaker 16: even you know you got black tour agencies out there.

3370
03:00:56,320 --> 03:01:01,120
Speaker 16: There's Henderson Okay travel agency. We use Alcan Tours back

3371
03:01:01,120 --> 03:01:04,080
Speaker 16: in the day with doctor Ben Okay and sister Sharifa

3372
03:01:04,200 --> 03:01:07,960
Speaker 16: Okay with African Dreamers, And thanks to her and doctor

3373
03:01:08,000 --> 03:01:11,160
Speaker 16: Ben Okay, they've educated my wife and I on how

3374
03:01:11,200 --> 03:01:13,840
Speaker 16: to do this. All right, You're not gonna get that

3375
03:01:13,920 --> 03:01:17,080
Speaker 16: from a white agency. I got to be expressed just

3376
03:01:17,160 --> 03:01:19,280
Speaker 16: because people are calling us and saying how we got

3377
03:01:19,400 --> 03:01:23,360
Speaker 16: because we don't have a white agency. We are totally black.

3378
03:01:23,600 --> 03:01:26,520
Speaker 16: In fact, our tours called Kimmit New. Kimm It New

3379
03:01:26,560 --> 03:01:30,480
Speaker 16: means black people, all right, and when we put that

3380
03:01:30,600 --> 03:01:34,440
Speaker 16: name tag around your neck is Africa on it and

3381
03:01:34,480 --> 03:01:37,640
Speaker 16: it's just Kimmitt New black people, not no white tour agency.

3382
03:01:38,280 --> 03:01:40,959
Speaker 16: I've seen black folks over there with tour groups and

3383
03:01:41,000 --> 03:01:44,440
Speaker 16: got these little white agencies dangling from their neck. And

3384
03:01:44,480 --> 03:01:47,240
Speaker 16: then they asked me over there, oh, why are they

3385
03:01:47,280 --> 03:01:51,560
Speaker 16: always using these European Jewish tour agencies? I said, well,

3386
03:01:51,600 --> 03:01:55,039
Speaker 16: that's them, but then sure ain't us. But back to

3387
03:01:55,080 --> 03:01:58,200
Speaker 16: our tour, kimmit new tour. We have to do two

3388
03:01:58,240 --> 03:02:01,280
Speaker 16: tours given thanks to brothers sisters who love to travel

3389
03:02:01,320 --> 03:02:05,600
Speaker 16: with us. Okay, there's a fifteen day tour in our

3390
03:02:05,640 --> 03:02:09,320
Speaker 16: first tours July thirteenth to July twenty seventh, and our

3391
03:02:09,360 --> 03:02:12,520
Speaker 16: second tour is July thirtieth till August thirteenth. That's also

3392
03:02:12,600 --> 03:02:16,120
Speaker 16: involves at four day cruise to Nubie as well. We

3393
03:02:16,240 --> 03:02:18,800
Speaker 16: lecture every day. My wife and I. We both lectures,

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03:02:18,840 --> 03:02:22,280
Speaker 16: so you can get it from her powerful lectures that

3395
03:02:22,320 --> 03:02:25,920
Speaker 16: she does and the lectures that I do. Okay, So

3396
03:02:25,959 --> 03:02:28,720
Speaker 16: this is a fifteen day educational tour. Everything is paid

3397
03:02:28,720 --> 03:02:30,720
Speaker 16: for with that price. It starts from New York. Our

3398
03:02:30,760 --> 03:02:33,640
Speaker 16: price five two hundred and ninety five dollars. It pays

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03:02:33,680 --> 03:02:37,680
Speaker 16: for everything for fifteen days, okay, and we are totally

3400
03:02:37,760 --> 03:02:40,959
Speaker 16: in charge. We do not have a white agency that

3401
03:02:41,040 --> 03:02:43,199
Speaker 16: you have to go through or you're talking. You're talking

3402
03:02:43,240 --> 03:02:47,080
Speaker 16: to us directly, all right, So we just can't run

3403
03:02:47,120 --> 03:02:51,560
Speaker 16: around and say that we're black and say this and that. Okay,

3404
03:02:51,640 --> 03:02:55,880
Speaker 16: but okay running around and having our people being ripped

3405
03:02:55,920 --> 03:02:58,480
Speaker 16: off by these white agencies, okay, and then seeing our

3406
03:02:58,520 --> 03:03:00,000
Speaker 16: people away from kimmid from africt.

3407
03:03:01,800 --> 03:03:03,720
Speaker 1: Any seats still available.

3408
03:03:03,680 --> 03:03:06,640
Speaker 16: Yes, on our first trip. Okay, our first trip is

3409
03:03:06,680 --> 03:03:09,480
Speaker 16: almost full, but we still have seats, and we have

3410
03:03:09,959 --> 03:03:12,520
Speaker 16: quite a few seats okay, still on the second tour.

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03:03:13,120 --> 03:03:15,439
Speaker 16: And again, you can go to our website at kimmittnew

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03:03:15,520 --> 03:03:19,520
Speaker 16: dot com. That's k E M E T and U

3413
03:03:19,840 --> 03:03:21,800
Speaker 16: dot com. You have to grow sure there. You can

3414
03:03:21,840 --> 03:03:24,640
Speaker 16: register right online. That's Kimmitt Newt. It means committic, it

3415
03:03:24,760 --> 03:03:27,800
Speaker 16: means black people. All right. You can sign up up there.

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03:03:28,080 --> 03:03:29,800
Speaker 16: And I got to express this because we've gotten so

3417
03:03:29,840 --> 03:03:32,360
Speaker 16: many calls about how our price was so low. Our

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03:03:32,400 --> 03:03:35,000
Speaker 16: price is low because we are in charge, brother Carl,

3419
03:03:35,360 --> 03:03:38,160
Speaker 16: not a white agen seat overcharging our people.

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03:03:39,240 --> 03:03:41,200
Speaker 1: Right. I got another question calling to the studio. I

3421
03:03:41,240 --> 03:03:44,240
Speaker 1: want to know, are you coming to the DMV anytime soon?

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03:03:44,879 --> 03:03:48,720
Speaker 16: I was just there back when I uh back in

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03:03:48,760 --> 03:03:53,120
Speaker 16: the fall. So but right, now we are in concentration

3424
03:03:53,200 --> 03:03:55,879
Speaker 16: on our tour and getting everything together because as I

3425
03:03:55,879 --> 03:03:58,800
Speaker 16: said before, we have to we do everything in preparation

3426
03:03:58,879 --> 03:04:02,320
Speaker 16: for this tour. And because of that, I have to

3427
03:04:02,720 --> 03:04:06,279
Speaker 16: now stop the lectures and now concentrate on the preparation

3428
03:04:06,360 --> 03:04:07,480
Speaker 16: for our tour for this summer.

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Speaker 1: All right, now, I know you were in La recently quickly,

3430
03:04:12,360 --> 03:04:13,000
Speaker 1: how did that go?

3431
03:04:13,879 --> 03:04:14,039
Speaker 8: Well?

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03:04:14,080 --> 03:04:15,840
Speaker 16: You know, I at the African Festival, you know La.

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03:04:15,959 --> 03:04:16,800
Speaker 8: That's that was my.

3434
03:04:19,160 --> 03:04:21,800
Speaker 16: Old home back there, you know, marymar and now we

3435
03:04:21,840 --> 03:04:24,080
Speaker 16: got together. I now live in Dallas, so they have

3436
03:04:24,160 --> 03:04:28,040
Speaker 16: the African Festival for Black History months. So that was

3437
03:04:28,120 --> 03:04:31,800
Speaker 16: great with the lecture that I dealt with on African history.

3438
03:04:32,400 --> 03:04:35,160
Speaker 16: So again, you know, we have to keep telling our story,

3439
03:04:35,360 --> 03:04:38,160
Speaker 16: and by telling our story, we can educate our children

3440
03:04:38,200 --> 03:04:41,800
Speaker 16: and also have an African frame of reference and not

3441
03:04:41,879 --> 03:04:45,320
Speaker 16: from a European perspective. And that's very important. And then

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03:04:45,400 --> 03:04:47,400
Speaker 16: I want to thank you brother Carl, because again with

3443
03:04:47,520 --> 03:04:51,120
Speaker 16: the African Communiversity, and you know, without your radio, you know,

3444
03:04:51,200 --> 03:04:54,320
Speaker 16: and dissemination of information for liberation, we wouldn't be able

3445
03:04:54,360 --> 03:04:56,560
Speaker 16: to tell a lot of things. And keep in mind,

3446
03:04:57,000 --> 03:04:59,760
Speaker 16: I don't consider myself a master teacher as I always say,

3447
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:02,039
Speaker 16: consider myself one of the black pieces on the black

3448
03:05:02,080 --> 03:05:04,760
Speaker 16: side as a chessboard. There are many of us who

3449
03:05:04,760 --> 03:05:08,080
Speaker 16: are out here who are being black going black. Some

3450
03:05:08,120 --> 03:05:11,039
Speaker 16: people talk about it ain't about being black, okay, when

3451
03:05:11,040 --> 03:05:12,720
Speaker 16: they get into who's white folks, and all of a

3452
03:05:12,760 --> 03:05:15,320
Speaker 16: sudden they start capitulating down to white folks. So as

3453
03:05:15,360 --> 03:05:17,200
Speaker 16: long as we stay on the black side of the chessboard,

3454
03:05:17,240 --> 03:05:18,600
Speaker 16: we can win this game with the Carl.

3455
03:05:19,320 --> 03:05:22,119
Speaker 1: Yes we can, thank you, brother, asker our question, Please

3456
03:05:22,160 --> 03:05:24,520
Speaker 1: say hi to mayor our question for me, and hopefully

3457
03:05:24,560 --> 03:05:26,960
Speaker 1: we can get her on next month Women's History Month

3458
03:05:27,280 --> 03:05:28,439
Speaker 1: to talk to the sister.

3459
03:05:28,320 --> 03:05:31,120
Speaker 16: Talking about talking about masonry. But that's a whole program.

3460
03:05:31,400 --> 03:05:32,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a whole program.

3461
03:05:32,640 --> 03:05:34,480
Speaker 16: Yeah, will but we didn't get into it because of

3462
03:05:34,480 --> 03:05:36,480
Speaker 16: the old mobiley, but we have to catch it next time.

3463
03:05:37,000 --> 03:05:38,560
Speaker 1: Well we will thank you, brother Quasi.

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03:05:38,879 --> 03:05:40,840
Speaker 16: All right, you sound of many thanks, Brother Karl.

3465
03:05:41,160 --> 03:05:43,800
Speaker 1: All right, Family classes dismissed for the day. Stay strong,

3466
03:05:43,920 --> 03:05:46,400
Speaker 1: stay positive, please stay healthy. We'll see you tomorrow morning,

3467
03:05:46,400 --> 03:05:50,040
Speaker 1: six o'clock right here in Baltimore on ten ten WLB

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Speaker 1: and also on the DMV on fourteen fifteen WOL