1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: So, as we talked about in the first hour, the 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: swatting of the state senators in Indiana's getting totally out 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: of control. It's absolutely ridiculous, it's dangerous. And one of 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: the senators yesterday who was impacted by this was Spencer 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: Derry from the Lafayette area. He joins us now in 6 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: the WIBC hotline. Senator Spencer Derry, Hello. 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 2: Hey there, thanks for having me on. 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: All right, So, first of all, take us through what 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: yesterday was like for you. I think people here swatting 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: and I think, oh, this is this horrible nine one 11 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: one call, the police come to your house, they'd knock 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: down the door. Can you kind of let our audience 13 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: know what the experience was like for you? 14 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure. 15 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 3: So for some it can be and that's why it 16 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 3: can be so dangerous. Fortunately for me, you could kind 17 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: of see it coming. It was like, you know, all 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: happy and slow motion because you had the reports. 19 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: Of other senators. 20 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 3: We actually the night before had the so called prank 21 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: of a pizza you didn't order being delivered to your house, 22 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: which is really you know, can seem harmless, but really 23 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 3: the message there is we know where you live. And 24 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 3: so I had had multiple conversations with law enforcement saying, look, 25 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 3: this is probably going to happen to me. How are 26 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 3: we going to handle it? So we had a plan. 27 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: So fortunately, in my case, it was not that it 28 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 3: was a they were able to They received a report 29 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: of you know, the scary thing is the report says, 30 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: you know, there's domestic violence happening at this address and 31 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 3: any officers. 32 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: Who show up are going to be shot or attacked. 33 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 3: And so really the goal there is to try to 34 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: get them to come in with you know, guns ready 35 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: to shoot anybody that resists. But fortunately, you know, because 36 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: we were able to prepare. Instead it was a conversation 37 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 3: from dispatch, a phone call from distatch, No, we're good, 38 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: this is me, and then an officer showing up on 39 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: the doorstep, you know, politely having a flight interaction. So 40 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 3: you know, we we are fine. I don't want to 41 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: exaggerate of what we went through, but I still think 42 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: it's important to take a moment and say this is not. 43 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: Okay this state Senator, smister dearies are our guests. So 44 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: is that something you and your colleagues after the Greg 45 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: Good incident have kind of taken it on your own 46 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: to do. Is contact your local law enforcement and say, hey, 47 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: we could be victims of this too. 48 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's definitely been an effort to say, 49 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: you know, we need to be prepared for this. This 50 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: is a different environment than we are used to, and 51 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 3: so we need to be more prepared than we typically 52 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: are for a state senate type position. 53 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 4: Senator deary, I want. 54 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 5: To ask you about motives and the political climate. Do 55 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 5: you believe the swatting incidences are connected to the current 56 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 5: debate over redistricting? 57 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: You know, I don't want to jump to any inclusions. 58 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously nobody knows who I am out without that, 59 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 3: and so obviously there's a connection in the sense of 60 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: we're in the public profile nationally because of that. What 61 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 3: the motivations are, you know, an investigation will show. But really, 62 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: whatever the motivation is, it's important to just say, you 63 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: know what, elected officials are humans. 64 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: Because we're humans. We do still stuff. So call us 65 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 2: out when we do stupid stuff, but deal do it 66 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: with respecting dignity. 67 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 3: And you're and they're Nope, I'm not talking to one 68 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: of the best at doing so well. 69 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask you about that because look, 70 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: we came at you guys really hard on property taxes. 71 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie I that you guys totally blew it. 72 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say something different because you're on the 73 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: phone with me. 74 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 6: But we were pretty nice to you guys. 75 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: But what is it about this redistricting thing that like 76 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: it's it's amped this thing up to a level that's 77 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: totally ridiculous. 78 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 2: Well, let me just say I did vote against the 79 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: property tax. They'll just throw that out there, but you 80 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: did that said. 81 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: But with that said, you know it's I think it's 82 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: just become this national profile. I mean, you have the president, 83 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 3: you have the vice president, and because of that, you 84 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 3: even have internationalized you know, for all we know, there 85 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 3: could be you know, there are people internationally that like 86 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: to sew discord in this country and you know, capitalize 87 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 3: on things like this. 88 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: So it could be it could be somebody up the street, 89 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: it could be somebody overseas. I don't know. But anytime 90 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 2: you have this kind of vitriol. 91 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: And this kind of anger and you look online, you 92 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: know it's there's a lot of dehumanization and there's a 93 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: lot of just you know, anger, and so it's important 94 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: to take a moment say you know what, we're. 95 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: Humans, We have families. 96 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: I had kids in my house and there were kids 97 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 3: line up to get on the bus at the time 98 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 3: that this could have been happened, and so fortunately it 99 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: was not traumatic. But if I had been the first, 100 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: it could have. You could have had a swat team 101 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: storming in my street while you had kids lined up 102 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 3: getting on the bus. And so we just got to 103 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: take the time and say stuff like this is not okay. 104 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 5: Senator Deary, in regards to safety and protocols, have you 105 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 5: been offered additional security or protective measures and do you 106 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 5: believe Indiana's current laws and policies around swatting are sufficient? 107 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 3: Well at the moment, you know, we the state police 108 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 3: does a good job taking care of us, and I 109 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 3: don't want to go into too many details about what 110 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: that looks like just for our own safety and protocol, 111 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: but I'm very grateful to local law enforcement. 112 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 2: I'm grateful to state police for all that they do 113 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: to keep us safe. 114 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 3: We did actually pass House and Rolled Act or sorry, 115 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 3: Center Rolled Act one ninety eight last year that elevated 116 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 3: the crime of slatting to a level six felony. 117 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 2: So in some sense we're a. 118 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 3: Little ahead of the game on that, but you know, 119 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: there's always going to be stuff that like this, and 120 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 3: so we have to try and say one step ahead 121 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 3: of the people that are doing this. But we need 122 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: as a state, as a country, say this is not okay. 123 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: Spencer Deery, our guest any at a state center Lafayette area, 124 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: get you now get a primary challenger right out of this, Like, 125 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: why is it that people think that redistricting is some 126 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 1: magic silver bullet that's going to prepare them to victory 127 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: because and maybe going to this a little bit, it 128 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a lot of constituents, your constituents are 129 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: really fired. 130 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 6: Up that this is the issue that's going to motivate 131 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 6: them to vote. 132 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 2: You know, it's true. 133 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: I mean, right from the get go, I did not 134 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: believe this is the right thing to do, because I 135 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: think it goes against the idea of what you know, 136 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 3: we call popular sovereignty, the people being in charge of 137 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: their rulers. But I was only reinforced as I started 138 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: to go to my community and to listen and not 139 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: just you know, obviously the Democrats against one hundred percent, 140 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: but there was a lot of money spent to try 141 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 3: to convince Republicans to tell me to support this, and 142 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 3: over half of the calls I got in response to 143 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 3: those were saying, this is not who we are, don't 144 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,799 Speaker 3: do this. And those that were on the other side, 145 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: you call them up, and there wasn't really an honestly 146 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: passion there or even a lot of information. And so 147 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 3: once you walk through the situation, I had lots of 148 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,160 Speaker 3: people say, yeah, you're right, this is a bad idea, 149 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 3: don't do this. So I don't fully understand it as 150 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 3: an issue, especially when you consider that by the time 151 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: you get to the primary, this is not going to 152 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: be an issue. 153 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: You know, the result of these races an't going to 154 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 2: impact this at all. 155 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 3: What I'm hearing people want to focus on is they're 156 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: worried about rising utility rates driven by. 157 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: Unpressed demand of energy. There's there's still. 158 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 3: Concerns that you know out there about about property taxes, 159 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: rising medical costs. 160 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: That's what people want to talk about. And so I'm there. 161 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: You know, I took my position knowing that it could 162 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: date somebody into trying to run a primary, but I 163 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: try not to think that way to do what's right, 164 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: and I'm confident that I'm doing what the voters want 165 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: me to do, and we'll be just fine. 166 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 5: How do the recent comments or pressure from not only 167 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 5: the governor but also President Trump affect your position? 168 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm listening to the people that I see at 169 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: the grocery store, the people that I see at you know, 170 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: the festivals in my rural counties. There's a lot of 171 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: noise online. 172 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: There's a lot of you know that's fueled. 173 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: Some of that by the national rhetoric, but it's a 174 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: mismatch from what I'm hearing from actual voters. And you know, 175 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 3: I'd love to make everybody happy, but I know that 176 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: that's not possible. And if I have to choose, I'm 177 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: going to any It's an easy choice. 178 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 2: Who I'm going to. 179 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 3: Upset and it's not the people that elected me. It's 180 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: not the people that I'm actually seeing on the ground. 181 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: All right, Well, get you out of here with this. 182 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: Spencer Dery State Center, Lafayette Area is our guest. If 183 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: you could give a message to the people out there 184 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: about this environment, about what's going on, If you could 185 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: just say something to the folks out there, maybe to 186 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: help drive the temperature down a little bit on this. Obviously, 187 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: the behavior is getting totally out of control. Flora is yours? 188 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 6: What would it be? 189 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 2: You know, you hear a lot of talk about unity. 190 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 2: It kind of becomes cliche. 191 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: Unity does not mean that we all agree or think 192 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: the same. 193 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: What it means is that we agree to act on 194 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: the same core values. 195 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: And one of those core values is that all of 196 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 3: our elective few sills and all of our voters, we're. 197 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,079 Speaker 2: All human beings. And never forget that. 198 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: Fire them, debate them, tell them why they're wrong, but 199 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: don't dehumanize them. If social media is causing you to 200 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 3: do that, shut it off. Go talk to a human being. 201 00:08:59,040 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 2: Just be a good person. 202 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and congratulations, Senator. The odds were one hundred to 203 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: one we would ever get a member of the Indiana 204 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: Senate from the Republican side on our show. So congratulations, 205 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: we cashed the bet. 206 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 6: Thanks to you today. 207 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 3: Thanks. 208 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: Well, well there you go. 209 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: Well, hopefully they'll let me still to hang around in 210 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: the pockets rooms actually giving you some time, but. 211 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. Thanks for having me on. 212 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks all right. 213 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: Kendall Casey Show ninety three WIBC. Okay, so it looks 214 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: like it is the end of Circle Center. Mall as 215 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 1: we know it. Yeah, I mean, we knew this day 216 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: was coming, but it appears that it is now. The 217 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: wheels are moving rapidly. 218 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 5: Some of the remaining tenants are receiving notices that they 219 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 5: have to vacate by December thirty first. 220 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, so w Indie Star has a big article about this, 221 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: and it's look, I mean, the mall just simply had 222 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: malls plural in general, not everywhere. There's some malls even 223 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 1: here in Central Indiana. They're still doing all right, but 224 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: but in many cases malls have sort of are a 225 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: bygone era thing. As more and more people shop online 226 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: places where you're don't have the cost of overhead and 227 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: employees and all these other things, it's just become harder 228 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: and harder to make a mall work. And Circle Center look, 229 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: and I don't think you underscore in a post COVID world, 230 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: fewer people coming downtown, fewer people engaging the growth of 231 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: the suburbs, you don't have to be downtown for where 232 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: the action is anymore. And so it just couldn't make 233 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: a go of it. And now they're going to totally 234 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: reinvent that property. And as a result, there are still 235 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: a few scragglers and on in there and they got told, what, 236 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: December thirty first, you had done? 237 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 4: So yeah. 238 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 5: So the mall's owner announced plans for a massive six 239 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty million dollar redevelopment includes offices, apartments, entertainment, 240 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 5: and an open air retail floor. They haven't officially stated 241 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 5: when the mall will completely close, but they're telling all 242 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 5: of the tenants December thirty first is when you got 243 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 5: to leave. 244 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: You know, it's so fascinating for me to see this 245 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: because as a who'sier life or I can remember I 246 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: think at the mall it was thirty years ago, the 247 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: mall open. I remember when it opened. I remember coming downtown, 248 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: which that was a huge deal when you're a kid, 249 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: right like. 250 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 6: You're coming downtown. 251 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: And I remember sort of after that mall open, it 252 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: was just just flooded with people and they had the 253 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: movie theater and they had they had a big, sprawling 254 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: arcade up at the top of it, and it was like, 255 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is the coolest place that ever existed. 256 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 6: Like I want to spend every hour of every day 257 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 6: in this place. 258 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: And you know, it had a good probably fifteen year run, 259 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: and then basically, you know, the past decade and a half. 260 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: It's been sort of the slow death decline. I think 261 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: the safety has been an issue. I think the lack 262 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: of people coming downtown. I think the post COVID, and 263 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, really the thing overall of it is so 264 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: many people no longer do in person shopping. They don't 265 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: need to engage to get what they want. 266 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 4: Right, they just order it online. Same thing. We used 267 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 4: to come down from South Bend. 268 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 5: All the time, and it was a treat, you know, 269 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 5: to come to Circle Center Mall, and it was the 270 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 5: big city shopping experience. And now it's just desolate. There's 271 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 5: nobody there in the mall. It used to be this 272 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 5: central hub for downtown, not only for people coming from 273 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 5: other smaller cities around Indiana, but convention goers and hotel guests. 274 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 5: Since it opened in ninety five, and it's ever since COVID, 275 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 5: it's just been a rapid decline. 276 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: It will be interesting because we are going through something 277 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: similar here. We've talked about how we're out of this 278 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: building within the next three or four weeks. And this building, 279 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: which for again basically the past thirty years, has been 280 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: the MS Communications building has been a staple of downtown 281 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: and that great Marquee and the news rolling on, the 282 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: scrolling across, and the WIBC logos and the other radio stations. 283 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: They you know, this building is going to become something 284 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: thing else, very different, right, And there's some people who 285 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: think and it'll be interesting to see what mister Smollon 286 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: does with the property. But the building itself may not 287 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 1: even exist anymore, that it could be torn down and 288 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: be something different. And like society is sort of catching 289 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: up to itself now and COVID did a lot of 290 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: damage in terms of eliminating foot traffic that local merchants 291 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: depend upon in order to thrive and to succeed. And 292 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, in a bygone era, this building was one 293 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: of the coolest things because you would sit there and 294 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: watch some guy do the news. Literally you would walk 295 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: past them. It was like it was some throwback thing. 296 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: And because of how our industry has evolved, it's just 297 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: far out of its usefulness. And you know, I think 298 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: they sold Indian apples monthly that the must haven't known 299 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: that anymore. And they occupy that top floor. There's a 300 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: bank on the on the first floor, but other than that, 301 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: it's like, just hey, we're moving on. 302 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 4: Right, And speaking of that. 303 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 6: Oh, yes you did. 304 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 5: I walked in this morning and you were busy cleaning 305 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 5: off your desk, So pick it up, Kendall. 306 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 4: Okay, So here's the deal. So I'm out next week, 307 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 4: taking some time off. 308 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 6: That's right. 309 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, not permanently yet, but I'm I'm I will not 310 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: be here next week. So basically that means when I 311 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: come back, based on the timeframe they've given us, the 312 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: first week of December will probably be our last week here. 313 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 6: So they have ordered us to clean up all of 314 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 6: our stuff. Now back it up. 315 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: I don't do any actual work around here, so my 316 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: desk has become it was just a museum basically of 317 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: stuff that I've acquired, for much of it from many 318 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,239 Speaker 1: of you over the years who have sent various trinkets 319 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: and whatever in, and I've made a gre display out 320 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: of it, and in basically a couple hours this morning, 321 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: that nine years of my life basically went into about 322 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: three piles. Yeah, and so one of the things that 323 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: we're pondering is there's so much stuff. And some of 324 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: these things I will keep their personal things, family photos, whatever, 325 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: But a lot of this stuff. 326 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 6: I just don't have room for it at my house. 327 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: But it means something to me because it meant something 328 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: to you, and I'm meant enough to you to send 329 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: them to me. And we're like, what do we do 330 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: with a lot of this stuff? I don't want to 331 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: just throw it away? And so you said, why don't 332 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: we give it away? 333 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's give it away. We've got a nice little 334 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 5: pile together. This is mostly a Trump themed pile. This 335 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 5: is the Donald talking pen. 336 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: It will be the greatest president that God ever created. 337 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 6: M h, it's so much so. 338 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 4: Here's one one of the items. 339 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 5: I'm showing them on the YouTube channel, by the way, 340 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 5: which you cannot watch at Kennel and Casey. In the 341 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 5: YouTube search bar. You also have the Donald Trump punching pen. Yeah, 342 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 5: where if you press little button on his back, he throws. 343 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 5: He throws fists. He's wearing boxing gloves. Ohways, speaking of 344 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 5: boxing gloves, this one was a recent addition, the Todd 345 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 5: Brokeita boxing gloves. 346 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: One of his staffers gave me those at I believe 347 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: that was at the State convention. 348 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 4: This looks like it could be a Christmas ornament on 349 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 4: a tree. 350 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: They said, Rokeita wanted you to have these, and I said, well, 351 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: there's something I want him to have too, but I 352 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: can't describe it in good and decent society. 353 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 5: Now this could be historical one day it's a Trump 354 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 5: for President button. 355 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty twenty. By the way, you've got the Dakoo 356 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 4: morele Is Coozy. 357 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: Somebody got me that at one of the state fairs 358 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: and they said, well, we paid for this, We thought 359 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: you'd want to want to have this. 360 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 4: Indiana Secretary of State Kouzi. I like this one. This 361 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 4: one's funny. 362 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 5: This is the Trump claw Maga twenty twenty, and it's 363 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 5: a you know, it's something you put your beverages in. Sure, 364 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 5: made from all natural liberal snowflake tears, no fake news included, 365 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 5: all board Trump train calories one hundred impeachment zero percent 366 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 5: fake news two hundred percent, patriotism on spray tan thirty percent, 367 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 5: gun rights eighty percent, liberal tiers one thousand percent. 368 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 6: That's the content, yeah. 369 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 5: Not a significant source of tolerance for the media may 370 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 5: contain random rants on social media not intended for people 371 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 5: with large So then the. 372 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: Thing over there to your right, that's really the great 373 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: right now, this one. Ethan actually got that for med 374 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: a garage sale years ago. Ethan Hatcher from Saturday night 375 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: on the Circle. It's the Trump It's. 376 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 4: The Trump Game. I'm back and you're fired. 377 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 6: Fired board game. 378 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: Ethan got that, like I said, a garage sale for 379 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: me years ago. So Casey and I were kind of 380 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: kicking around. Was next not next week, but the week after. 381 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: We'll put all the stuff in some great collection and 382 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 1: we will find some challenge or something to give it 383 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: away to one lucky listener. All of Rob's stuff that 384 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: he's not taking with him. You may have my stuff 385 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: and know these once belong to Rob Kendall. 386 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 4: The Donald Talking pen includes eight sayings. 387 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 6: The greatest that one. Maybe it doesn't work right. Maybe 388 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 6: that's why they gave it to me. Try it again. 389 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: I'm really rich. 390 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 6: It's true. 391 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: I will build a great, great wall on the southern border, 392 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: and I will have Mexico pay for that one. 393 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 6: So I got it all done. Okay, thank you. 394 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: We've heard enough. That's why I'm giving it away. I 395 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: got all that stuff taken down. I was like, man, 396 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: nine years of my line. The guy was so young 397 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: and beautiful when this collection of stuff started. 398 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 6: Did not look at it? 399 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 4: Not look at you. It is Kendall A Casey. It's 400 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 4: ninety three w IBC. 401 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 6: Breaking News. Are you ready? 402 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 4: Yeah? 403 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 6: Can you be serious? 404 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: I had breaking new for you and you're sitting there 405 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: with your Todd Roketa boxing gloves. 406 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're on my fingers. Let's go. 407 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: It turns out, according to our website WIBC dot com, 408 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: and this will come as a great shock to you, Casey, 409 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: Indianapolis is very dangerous at night. 410 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 4: It's not a shock to me, Rob. We play gunshot 411 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 4: or firework at my house. 412 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 5: Indianapolis rank fifth most dangerous major US city for residents walking. 413 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 4: Alone after dark. Okay, we don't go out after dark 414 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 4: at my house. 415 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: Well you should ever like be walking alone anywhere in 416 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: the city any time, day or night, but especially at night. 417 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 6: And look, I mean the. 418 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 1: City is a cesspool of violence, and violent criminals believe 419 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: they can one. They believe they can escape any sort 420 00:19:54,440 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: of prosecution or punishment. And then if they do, you 421 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: get caught, If they do get apprehended, they don't they 422 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: don't think the punishment's going to be all that bad 423 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: based on you know, the sort of triangle of terror 424 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: that we have where it's like three groups kind of 425 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: pointing at each other. You've got the mayor's office, who 426 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: points at the prosecutor, the prosecutor points at the judge, 427 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: the judge points back at the mayor, and it's just 428 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: like instead of everybody coming together going, hey, we got 429 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: to kind of fix this, everybody just keeps pointing each other. 430 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 4: Nobody wants to take ownership. 431 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 6: No, no'll blame him. 432 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 5: So the report was done by David off Law personal 433 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 5: injury lawyers, and they calculated a night walk risk score 434 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 5: and they used the residents perceive safety also police presidence, 435 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 5: cct V coverage, and nighttime pedestrian fatality rates. Indianapolis has 436 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 5: the lowest lighting density of all of the cities that 437 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 5: they analyzed. There are nine forty one street lights per 438 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 5: every one hundred square mile. 439 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: And obviously when we talk about violence, were very aware 440 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: of what goes on in the essentially them you know 441 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: what they call the mile circle area, right, that's where 442 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: we're at all the time. And just even in the 443 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: mile area, like the you know mile miles square of 444 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: downtown Indianapolis. I think about where it was ten years ago, 445 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: and I think you told this story. I would oftentimes 446 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: walk from you know, the circle area to mass Have 447 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: and walk back at two in the morning, not think 448 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: of that wouldn't walking alone. But I never thought of 449 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: the thing about it's just whatever, out of sight, out 450 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: of mind. You saw some weirdo's on the street, you 451 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: kind of knew the guys that if they were coming 452 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: towards you, you kept your head down and you didn't 453 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: really engage in any shape, form or. 454 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 4: Fashion, but didn't instigate anything. 455 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: By and large, you know, you become a veteran of 456 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: the post one am scene, and you kind of Kev's 457 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: nodding in agreement that you'd kind of know who to 458 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: who to avoid, right, that's just the rules of the road. 459 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: But now I would never do that. I like, that 460 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: would just be beyond stupid. And you know, I think 461 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: would be fascinating to interview. And I don't know if 462 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: we could ever arrange this because our station kind of 463 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: has an adversarial relationship with the guy. I think Ryan 464 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 1: Meures would be fascinating to interview, and he might actually 465 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: do it given his what seems like his political aspirations, 466 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: because this show is the I think always gets a 467 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: good reputation being very fair to everyone, and we, unlike 468 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: maybe anybody else, put the politics kind of aside because 469 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: we hate everybody equally. It'd be fascinated, just like not 470 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: a gotcha conversation, not hey, you're doing a horrible job, 471 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: but just say, hey, where are you at? As the 472 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: prosecutor explain to everyone. 473 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 6: Why why this is the way it is? 474 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: And I think the bigger conversation should be about how 475 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: do we fix it? 476 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 6: Maybe I'll put that. 477 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: On myself that I will reach out to Ryan Meres 478 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: and say, would you be willing to come on and 479 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: have a con about how you see violence in this city, 480 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: about how you deal with criminals in this city, whether 481 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: you do you think you're doing a good job, do 482 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: you think the city's doing a good job? 483 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 6: And if not, what can we do about this? 484 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: Right? 485 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 4: What grade would he give himself? 486 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: Because one of the things I will say about hog 487 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: Set is, especially in the past couple of years now, 488 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: he was awful on this for a while, but they 489 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: seem to give the police most of what they want 490 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: in these budgets. Now, there is a difference between just 491 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: giving throwing money at people versus policies and procedures and 492 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: whatever that are effective. 493 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 6: Right, And I think hog. 494 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: Set for so many years basically had an open for 495 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: business sign on the city in terms of how criminals 496 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: viewed Indianapolis that it's like all these illegal immigrants that 497 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: got in. Once they're in, it takes forever to get 498 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: them out, and it takes forever to keep them from coming. 499 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: And that's sort of the challenge Trump is that. I 500 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: think that the city's still kind of dealing with that. 501 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: But I think Ryan Meres, I think Ryan Meers will 502 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: be a fascinating person to sit down and just have 503 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: a like a a just a conversation with about from 504 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: your perspective, why is the city in the position it 505 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 1: is as it relates to buis right? 506 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 4: What's not working? 507 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 5: So there are large areas of Indianapolis that remain poorly 508 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 5: lit and exposed at night. Only thirty percent of residents 509 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 5: report feeling safe walking alone after dark. 510 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm not one of them. 511 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 4: Not one of them. 512 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 5: And the expert insight says that, well, it's streets. Effective 513 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 5: police presence and surveillance are critical for safer environments. I 514 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 5: don't know if I want to be surveiled, but well 515 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 5: it yeah, I'm on board with that. Police presence. 516 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: Yes, it's so wild, like how quick you know in 517 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: comparison to time As a collective things can go downhill. 518 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: Like I remember, you know, there was a period of 519 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: time in the city under Ballard while you would give 520 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: an arm now for one hundred homicides a year, where 521 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: that was the like number numbers. Oh my gosh, it's 522 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: getting out of control. And one of the real one 523 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: of the real points of consternation as it related to 524 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: violence in the city was around the Black Expo time 525 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: and for multiple years there was high profile violence that 526 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: took place and said, you know, what are we gonna 527 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: do about this? But I can even remember then. I 528 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: remember coming downtown for stuff, and like it was Black 529 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: Expo and there was all sorts of stuff going on. 530 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 6: It's like I had to park all the way at 531 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 6: the Zoo. 532 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: I think the Indians were playing, there were some other 533 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: stuff going I had to park all the way down 534 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: at the Zoo. And I never really thought a thing 535 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: about it. Walking in the greater downtown area even at a 536 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: time went back then where they're like, oh, you don't 537 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: want to come down then like this, It just sort 538 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: of used to be. You knew where to go, you 539 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: knew what to do, you knew don't be an idiot, 540 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: don't act silly don't bother the people. They're not gonna 541 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: bother you. Just walk somewhere where it's reasonably lit and 542 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: don't go alone. You're gonna be fine. That's just those 543 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: days are gone. Like it's such a different it's just 544 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: a different world down here now than it used to be. 545 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 5: The top five dangerous cities for night walking are Albuquerque, Memphis, Houston, Jacksonville, 546 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 5: and Indianapolis at number five on the list. So today 547 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 5: you've got the New York City Mayor elect Zorn Mamdanie. 548 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 5: He's going to meet Keev's guy, Donnie. He's going to 549 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 5: meet with Donald Trump. 550 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 6: He's all you young people, the free stuff. 551 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 4: keV. 552 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 6: Get ready, bal. 553 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 4: You made it sound like Kevin voted for him. 554 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 6: Poor Kevin. 555 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 4: Kevin's I don't even live in NYC. That's not my guy. 556 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 5: They're going to meet in the Oval Office today at 557 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 5: three o'clock and they're expected to talk about affordability, public safety, 558 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 5: federal funding, immigration enforcement, and also federal security clearance for 559 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 5: briefing on terror threats. 560 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 4: Uh, mom, Donnie. 561 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 5: Apparently he's going to tell Donald Trump that deportations will 562 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 5: no longer be permitted in New York City after he 563 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 5: takes power. 564 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So how long do we give before the public 565 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: turns on this clown because he's made all sorts of 566 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: promises that there's no way he can reasonably keep them. 567 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: He's still got to deal with the city council that 568 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: hopefully in some level there's some level of reasonableness and reality. 569 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: And we all know if Mondani gets any of these policies, 570 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: it's like not gonna work, Like like Thelludican the train 571 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: rides are free and the rent is free and the 572 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: groceries are free. 573 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 6: Really, how well isn't that? 574 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 5: Isn't that typical of progressive policies? The intent is more 575 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 5: important than the execution. 576 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: Like, I just I find it fascinating that we have 577 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: done such a poor job we I say we as 578 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: a society. I'm talking to parents, I'm talking the community, 579 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking certainly public education system, private education system in 580 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: some cases educating people that they can't even process the 581 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: the like the what was the thing we did the 582 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: other day where they couldn't they couldn't say how the 583 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: young people couldn't say how many pennies were in a dollar? 584 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 4: Correct? 585 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 6: That's insane? Yeah, it's one hundred. Yeah. 586 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 5: Finano well, right, a lot of people aren't grasping it. 587 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 4: Though. 588 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 5: He was recently asked in an interview how he was 589 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 5: going to make the buses free, something he said on 590 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 5: the campaign trail when the governor said she is not 591 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 5: going to raise taxes to pay for that. 592 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: And the other one. 593 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 7: You've been talking about fast and free buses in your 594 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 7: meeting with the governor. I've heard you talk about many 595 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 7: times that you don't want to take money away from 596 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 7: the MTA, you want to put money back in. It's 597 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 7: something that she agrees with, right, we don't want to 598 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 7: take away money from the MTA. How are you getting 599 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 7: that money the seven hundred millions to make the buses 600 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 7: free into the MCA. If she's not for raising taxes, you. 601 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 8: Know, I think that the two clearest ways to raise 602 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 8: that money is through the raising of the state's corporate 603 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 8: tax to match she's in New Jersey. I think that 604 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 8: a lot of this is still a case to be made, 605 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 8: whether it's the corporate tax or that it's the personal 606 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 8: income tax on those who make more than a million 607 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 8: dollars a year or more. I think that these are 608 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 8: the clearest ways. I've also said that if there are 609 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 8: other ways to raise this funding. The most important fact 610 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 8: that we funded not the question of how we do it, 611 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 8: but that we do it. 612 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 4: Can you imagine we just have to do it, Rob, 613 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 4: We're just gonna do it. How we're just gonna do it. 614 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: You're some guy in Buffalo and you get your taxes 615 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: ray so that some idiot can have a free bus 616 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: ride bus right to be a menace to society in 617 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: New York City. 618 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 6: But do you're right? Casey? 619 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: The governor clearly lays out who would be in charge 620 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: of that or oversee that in some capacity. No, no, no, 621 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: that's not an option. Well we're going to do it. No, no, no, 622 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm telling you that's not We're not going to We're 623 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: gonna do it. Yeah, and people vote for that. 624 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 5: But how now it's just more important that we say 625 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 5: we're going to do it than we actually do it. 626 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 5: People voted for them, they did, and they'll find out, 627 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 5: won't they. You're listening to Kendallly Casey. It is ninety 628 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 5: three WYBC. 629 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 2: Okay. 630 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 6: I think this is a very. 631 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: Fair debate we're about to have, and I think it 632 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: will resonate with our audience. Jason Hammer of The Hammer 633 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: and Nigel show is here. 634 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 9: Hello, Hello, Now, we talked about this yesterday, and I 635 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 9: know Casey and I were talking about this off the 636 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 9: but in California they're gonna have an open governor seat 637 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 9: and it sounds like Eric Swalwell is going to be 638 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 9: throwing his name in the mix to become the. 639 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 6: New governor of the state of California. 640 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 9: Now, for those scoring at home, Eric Swalwell, you may 641 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 9: remember him from a number of different things. Number one, 642 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 9: a very bad presidential candidacy back in twenty twenty. He 643 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 9: was part of the Intel Committee, but he also got 644 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 9: busted banging a Chinese spy named Fang Fangs. And he 645 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 9: also had a high profile fart while doing an interview 646 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 9: on MSNBC. That's right, Yeah, Yeah, that's right. So those 647 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 9: are the things that he's best known for. So the 648 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 9: question I present to the brain trust in this room, 649 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 9: Rob Casey, what would be more embarrassing being known as 650 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 9: the guy farting on an interview or the guy on 651 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 9: the Intel Committee that got busted doing a Chinese spy. 652 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, And to me, this is a no brainer. 653 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: The fart is way more embarrassing because Feng Fang wasn't 654 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: bad looking and men get manipulated by good looking women 655 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 1: all the time. His case is pretty simple. Look at her, 656 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: I made a mistake. You haven't made a mistake with 657 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: a woman before. I think he can explain that, especially 658 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: to dudes with the fart No, that's totally humiliating. 659 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 9: Even being a member of the Intelligence Committee of the 660 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 9: United States government. 661 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: The comeback camera is I'm in the government. Of course, 662 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm incompetent id like, it's a no brainer. 663 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 4: You just expect that from him. 664 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 6: Look at this. 665 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 9: But it's not like he was on the Finance Committee 666 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 9: or he was on the Veterans Committee. He was on 667 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 9: the Intelligence Committee and he was doing a Chinese spot. 668 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: But everybody knows that the people in Washington, DC are 669 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: corrupt and they're morons, and they did just they're only 670 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: in it for themselves. 671 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 6: He just trots her out and goes, look, I made 672 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 6: a mistake, But look at her. You're telling that's what 673 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 6: I'm saying. Every dude in America would see that and go, 674 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 6: I get it. 675 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: Man, Sure, you compromise national security, But who amongst made 676 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: a horrible decision with a woman because she was out 677 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: of our league? 678 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 4: Uh huh. 679 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 6: Now I'm with you. I think the fart is way 680 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 6: more embarrassing. 681 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 9: And there's no way that you could try to say 682 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 9: that that wasn't a fart, because I remember somebody on 683 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 9: MSNBC once said, well, maybe somebody was moving a mug 684 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 9: in the background of the production studio. No, you could 685 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 9: tell by his face he floated in their biscuit. 686 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 5: Now I disagree with this completely. What Yeah, so you 687 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 5: think that the fang fang incident is more embarrassing. Why well, because, 688 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 5: for one, they're supposed to declare any relationships that they have. 689 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 5: He was investigated by the Department of Justice over this, 690 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 5: and at the end of the day, everybody. 691 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 4: Gets a little gassy. 692 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 5: Sometimes everybody poops, right, it's just not on national team 693 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 5: trumpets on its way out, just trying to make you happy. 694 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 9: It wasn't like it was a silent one where you 695 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 9: could tell maybe he bit his lip a little bit. 696 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 6: It was like a post Thanksgiving feast beefer and it 697 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 6: went over the microphone. Okay, here's the other side of this. 698 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 6: So you're his he's married now, Now, he was not. 699 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 2: He was not with with this. 700 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 6: He was not cheating on his wife with He was 701 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 6: a single at the time of Thank you. Yeah, but 702 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 6: you're his wife. 703 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: Could you marry a guy knowing he was that stupid 704 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: that he was on the Intelligence Committee. 705 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 6: And he, like well Swalwalls should just looked at it. 706 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: You know. 707 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: That's why I came up with the theory of two 708 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: years ago, the broader up theory of two, where everybody 709 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: gets a number based on their look, and if so 710 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten, and if somebody 711 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: is with with somebody else who is more than two 712 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: outside their number, then some serious shenanigans are going on 713 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: because people flocked to like like looking individuals, and she 714 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: is way out of his league, and he should have 715 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: known there's no reason this woman would be with me 716 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: for any any viable purpose. 717 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 6: So let me ask you this casey. 718 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 9: Let's say that you are single, and you go into 719 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 9: the Regal Beagle in California. 720 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 4: Get my white wine spritzer White. 721 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 9: Wine Spritzer, Jack Trippers on one side, Larry's. 722 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 6: On the other, and you see Eric Swalwells there. 723 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 9: Now you know that he's say but he's the politician. 724 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 9: You know, he's the guy that's farted on TV. And 725 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 9: you know that he's the guy that slept with the 726 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 9: Chinese spy on the Intel Committee. Are any of these 727 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 9: deal breakers? Which one is more of a deal breaker? 728 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 5: I think the Chinese spy in the fact that he 729 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 5: would put his country at risk as a patriot. 730 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 4: There's no way. I'm just hear that you might hook 731 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 4: up with it. 732 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: No. 733 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 5: I would go directly to mister Furley and say, get 734 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 5: this guy away from me. 735 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 6: What are we doing this afternoon? What's going on. 736 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 9: We're gonna have some bargaments this afternoon, We're gonna have 737 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 9: some fun. We're gonna talk about Indy. By the way, 738 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 9: if you get that interview with Meeres, I have. 739 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: Some questions you want to talk to him about across 740 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: the table to That is my goal before the end 741 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: of the year is to get that interview with Ryan Miares. 742 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 6: I'mst sly if I can pull that off. 743 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 4: Thank you Hammer. It is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety 744 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 4: three WYBC.