1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: Line from ball Heartland and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: Go meanwhile, I got some breaking news. You see this 4 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: map on your screen. 5 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: That is where the United States has military bases throughout 6 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: the Middle East. Now we can confirm that the US 7 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: is withdrawing some personnel from major bases across the. 8 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 4: Middle East due to heightened regional tensions. And you look 9 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 4: at some of this in guitar. That's the outou Daid 10 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 4: Air Base. She got about eight to ten thousand US 11 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 4: service members. That's what a larger bass. 12 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 5: You got another army base in Kuwait that's been operating 13 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 5: for some time now, several years, if not decades. So 14 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 5: how much of withdrawal we do not know and why. 15 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 6: But we know why, guys at Fox, we know why. 16 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 6: Tony Kats. Tony Kats today, Good to be with you. 17 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: The question is are we at war with Iran? 18 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 6: Well, we can answer certain parts of the question that 19 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 6: Iran is always at war with US and has been 20 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 6: since nineteen seventy nine. 21 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: This has not changed. 22 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 6: But what we are seeing are some heightened tensions and 23 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 6: we're seeing some advanced movements before the possibility of possibilities. 24 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: Certainly in the. 25 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 6: Efforts to keep our own troops and our own hardware 26 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 6: safe and certainly to keep the Iranians, which is to say, 27 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 6: the Iranian regime and others on their toes off guard. 28 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 6: They think we're coming from the left, Poe, we comes 29 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 6: from the right. 30 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: We prove this. 31 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 6: We send me two bombers across the Pacific only to 32 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 6: hit Iran and these nuclear facilities from the Atlantic, and 33 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 6: they never ever ever saw it coming. 34 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: Son, Sue is not wrong. 35 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 6: All warfare's deception, every last bit of it. Don't let 36 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 6: them know what you're doing, don't let them know when 37 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 6: you're doing it. Just hit them when they least expect it, 38 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 6: with overwhelming force, until quite simply they fall down and 39 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 6: beg you to stop. 40 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: At that moment you can decide whether you're going to 41 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 2: stop or not. Oh. 42 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 6: I don't know about you, but if I'm involved in 43 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 6: a war, I want to win, and I want to 44 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 6: win so decidedly that nobody thinks about messing with me 45 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 6: for a good long time to come. 46 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: Are we at war with Iran? Well? 47 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 6: President has been very very clear, he has made his 48 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 6: statements known, he has spoken to the Iranian patriots, and 49 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 6: he has said the words as clear as day. Iranian patriots, 50 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 6: keep protesting, take over your institutions, save the. 51 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: Names of the killers and abusers. They will pay a 52 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: big price. 53 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 6: I've canceled all meetings with Iranian officials until the senseless 54 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 6: killing a protester stops. Help is on its way. MIGA 55 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 6: make a RAN great again, President Donald J. 56 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: Trump. 57 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 6: Now, as I said the other day, I would be MIPA, 58 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 6: make America Persia again. 59 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: But neither here nor there. Help is on its way. 60 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: What does one take from. 61 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 6: That that help is on its way and help regarding 62 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 6: what well? We understand that the Iranian regime is going 63 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 6: to put protesters to death. Yesterday the number reported was 64 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 6: twelve thousand, twelve thousand protesters killed by the Iranian regime. 65 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 6: Then you saw the BBC reporting it as twenty four hundred, 66 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 6: and you're like, wait, what just happened here? 67 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: Twelve twenty four hundred? We said it yesterday. You knew it. 68 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 6: You knew at the minute you saw the twelve thousand number, 69 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 6: you could believe it. I'm not even saying it's or 70 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 6: it's wrong, But we have such little data coming out 71 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 6: right now from Ran. There's no way to know if 72 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 6: the number is wholly accurate. There's just no way to know. See, 73 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 6: you got to take that number with a grain of sault, 74 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 6: and that's what I did. You'll note as I said 75 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 6: that the people who were a supportive of destroying Israel 76 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 6: and supporting Hamas, they never took the number of the 77 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 6: grain assaults. 78 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: If the Gaza alt. 79 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 6: Ministry which is hot, which is, which is, and the 80 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 6: Gods of Health ministry said eighty thousand people were killed, 81 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 6: well then my gosh, eighty thousand people were killed. 82 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,239 Speaker 2: Then you can't have a question the number. 83 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 6: Because they're liars, because they're frauds, because they're willfully ignorant, 84 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 6: because they hate you, and gaslighting Americans is what they're 85 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 6: all about. All these disgusting, despicable low lives. Whether they're 86 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 6: from Columbia University or they're elected officials locally or nationally, 87 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 6: makes no difference. 88 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: Disgusting. 89 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 6: And some of them are still out there even though 90 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 6: the facts show them wrong. They're still screaming genocide because 91 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 6: they have nothing else to do. 92 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: It's what happens when you're a loser. 93 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 6: It's what happens when you are a bigot, when you 94 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 6: are an anti Semite, when you just have nothing to 95 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 6: do but develop theories and philosophies that satisfy your hateful urge. 96 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: But that's enough about Candice o. Elens. 97 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 6: Trump has warned a very strong action if the Iranians 98 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 6: engage in these executs. Allow me, the Iranians are going 99 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 6: to engage in these executions. 100 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: This is happening. They're trying to put down. 101 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 6: This protest, and as we have seen from the headline 102 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 6: at the New York Post, no mercy Iranians. Judiciary Chief 103 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 6: or Iran Judiciary Chief, I should say. 104 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 2: Issue spine chilling execution orders. 105 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 6: As a twenty six year old protester awaits death, who's 106 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 6: now become kind of the face of this. I don't 107 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 6: want them dead. I don't want any of them dead. 108 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 6: I want the Iatola gone. I want the Mullahs destroyed, destroyed, vanquished. 109 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 6: I apologize for nothing. The question is how are we 110 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 6: going to do it? How are we going to make 111 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 6: that happen. Does this involve the getting involved in a 112 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 6: way that has troops on the ground. I don't believe 113 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 6: it does. And while I am certainly more willing to 114 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 6: engage fights than others, right we talk about a place 115 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 6: I have a real split from Magaville. I don't even 116 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 6: know how we would do it. It's not that we're 117 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 6: not capable of doing it. I don't know how we 118 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 6: would do it. Does this mean we take out Iran's 119 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 6: ability to engage in an attack on neighboring countries, allies, 120 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 6: et cetera, whether that be Israel, whether that be Saudi 121 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 6: Arabia that Iran has been in a proxy war with 122 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 6: in Yemen for years. 123 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: Well, I could I could see that. I think you 124 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: can too. 125 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 6: I think that if we were sitting on the bar 126 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 6: stool together having a burd and be like, yeah, okay, 127 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 6: you figure out. 128 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: Where their bases are. You take out those bases. That's 129 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: what you do. Just take them right out. 130 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 6: Now you know that they've moved me military equipment, they've 131 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 6: recreated and refinessed some of their bases, and we may 132 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 6: have access to all that because we can see them 133 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 6: and they. 134 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 2: Can't see us. 135 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 6: How would you help the people who are engaged in 136 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 6: the overthrow? 137 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: Do you do? You sneak them in weapons? Is that 138 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: what they need? 139 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 6: President Trump said We're gonna put a twenty five percent 140 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 6: tariff on any nation that does deals with Iran, and 141 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 6: I think that hurts the people more that it hurts 142 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 6: the Ayatola. But is there something like that that could 143 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 6: be done? So when he says help is on its way, 144 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 6: I have been going through it. 145 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. 146 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 6: I think if I'm assessing the situation properly, the president 147 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 6: is pot committed. If we're gonna talk about this in 148 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 6: terms of poker, I don't think he's walking away from 149 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 6: the hand. I don't think that this is all a 150 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 6: bluff and he's gonna fold. 151 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: I don't think. 152 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 6: Not only do I think he can't afford to fold, 153 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 6: I don't think he wants to. There's a real moment here, 154 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 6: and if we think about it like Trump for a second, 155 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 6: there is a legacy moment here. And the legacy moment 156 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 6: is look at the piece that I was able to 157 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 6: help create Oran as a signature of the Abraham Accords. 158 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 2: Game over, Game over, Just. 159 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 6: That is legacy stuff that Biden or Obama would dream 160 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 6: about and will never ever ever come. In order to 161 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 6: get there, I believe the president actually has to help 162 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 6: get there, which means he's pot committed. 163 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: There is going to be some action. 164 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 6: I can't figure out what the action is. We talk 165 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 6: about the moving as you heard from Fox News from 166 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 6: certain bases, BBC reporting that the US and the UK 167 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 6: are pulling personnel from Guitar's military base, reducing the number 168 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 6: of personnel there. That could be you want to be 169 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 6: able to be away from Iranian missile attacks. It could 170 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 6: be you've deployed these people elsewhere to be part of 171 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 6: a potential assault. President Trump briefed on military and covert 172 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 6: options for Iran long range missile strikes. Having the carriers 173 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 6: there in the Gulf or in the med to be 174 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 6: able to engage those attacks. That is absolutely possible. This 175 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 6: attack could come via the Israelis. We are selling them 176 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 6: more at thirty five strike fighters. Maybe they're not sold 177 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 6: as much as they're given, right, I don't know the 178 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,119 Speaker 6: particulars of the financials of the deal, and let them 179 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 6: and their security forces run the raids. You'll note that 180 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 6: we sold dozens of F thirty five strike fighters to 181 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 6: Saudi Arabia. Why in the world would we do that, Well, 182 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 6: don't think of Saudi Arabia as a country that we 183 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 6: have an adversarial relationship with. We should have dealt with 184 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 6: Saudi Arabia more strongly after September eleventh. We didn't that 185 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 6: is our fault, and that moment has passed. We live 186 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 6: in the now, and in the now in the real 187 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 6: politique of it all, you got to deal with these people. 188 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 6: So we sell them at thirty five strike fighters. We 189 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 6: sell them M one Abrams tanks. 190 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: What in the world these people need a tank for. 191 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 6: Don't think of it as a nation having weaponry they 192 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 6: can use against their enemies. Think of it as a 193 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 6: forward base for us, a land carrier instead of a 194 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 6: carrier on the water. It's a drop off point for 195 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 6: our military to be able to get into our vehicles 196 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 6: and then be able to take off and deal with 197 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 6: our enemies. 198 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: That's what it is. 199 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 6: Saudi Arabia is nothing more than over the horizon capability, 200 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 6: which is why we should have kept Bogram as an 201 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 6: air force base in Afghanistan and never given it up. 202 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 6: And you know, if you don't know, now, I'm telling 203 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 6: you now. Trump is eyeing that thing like he's eye 204 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 6: in Greenland and saying we got to get back there, 205 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 6: and we got to have troops there, and we have 206 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 6: to have over the horizon technology, all right, not technology 207 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 6: capability that's coming, that is ten thousand percent coming. 208 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: How are we going to deal with Iran. I don't know. 209 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 6: I don't have the answer, and I think the people 210 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 6: are due are kind of hoping they're right. I can't 211 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 6: imagine a single troop on the ground. I can imagine 212 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 6: taking out military targets. I can imagine levels of attack, 213 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 6: involving power, involving water, involving crippling the capability of the 214 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 6: iatola to. 215 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: Do anything, including escape. 216 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 6: I can imagine the back channeling to allow the Ayatola 217 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 6: to escape. I may disagree with it, but again, the 218 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 6: real politics of it all. 219 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 2: The only thing I know. 220 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 6: Is that based on everything that's been said and everything 221 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 6: that's been done, President Trump can't turn back now be 222 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 6: devastating to him. 223 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 2: It'd be devastating to the midterms. 224 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 6: It would be devastating to how he is viewed around 225 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 6: the globe he's in. 226 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: What we don't know is what the inn is. 227 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 6: But if you you are surprised that there might be 228 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 6: action against Iran in the next twenty four forty eight 229 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 6: ninety six hours before the month of January is up, 230 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 6: you would be the only one who's surprised. No, no, no, 231 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 6: we're here. And I believe, based on the data that 232 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 6: one way or another, this is happening. 233 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz Today. There 234 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: was a leak, and it. 235 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 6: Was a leak of the identities of thousands of ICE 236 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 6: and Border Patrol agents. Tony kats good to be with you, 237 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 6: Tony Katz today. Find everything I do over at Tony 238 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 6: Katz dot com. That's where you find me and all 239 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 6: the good groovy stuff. 240 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: Right there a group that calls itself what was it, 241 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: the ICE List? 242 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 6: They say there are journalis stick project to share information 243 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 6: to quote hold ICE members legally accountable. No, you want 244 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 6: to out ICE members and find where they live and 245 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 6: find where their children live, and you want to hurt them. 246 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 6: I mean, that's just we don't have to question this anymore. 247 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 6: We know exactly what's going down. Forty five hundred federal 248 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 6: employees working with ICE their identities leaked, including two thousand agents. 249 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 6: According to the DHS, the leak is going to constitute 250 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 6: forty five hundred felonies. In the meantime, what do you do? 251 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 6: How does this information get used? The list is hosted 252 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 6: in the Netherlands, so it can't be taken down by 253 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 6: the US government, And the argument is after the shooting 254 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 6: death of renee good. 255 00:15:58,840 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 2: Well, people have had enough. 256 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, consider me one of them. Sick and tired 257 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 6: of the so called protesters who want to support a 258 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 6: legal immigrants and a legal immigration over the country and 259 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 6: the safety of the nation. 260 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: I'm tired of them attacking ICE agents. Stop. 261 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 6: Stop blocking traffic, Stop disobeying direct orders. 262 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: Stop trying to run people over. 263 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 6: Stop stop destroying buildings, Stop attacking ICE agents, Stop ramming 264 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 6: them with your car. Stop with the false imprisonment. Stop 265 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 6: that's all. Just stop. I didn't say you had to 266 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 6: agree with the policies, but you're not engaged in disagreement. 267 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 6: You're engaged in violent assault and you're thrilled that someone 268 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 6: got killed so you can have more ammunition in which 269 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 6: with which you can. 270 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: Go after the ICE agents. 271 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 6: That's if you say to me, that is so awful, 272 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 6: that is such a terrible thing to say. 273 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: That's how you come across. 274 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 6: Don't blame me, don't get angry with me for noticing 275 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 6: how it is you act, and then you have the 276 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 6: audacity to say to us that somehow you are good 277 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 6: and pious. 278 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 2: As for the prosecutors. 279 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 6: Who have resigned over this because they don't like the 280 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 6: fact that the DJ is not making a case regarding 281 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 6: the size agent or even investigating. 282 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 2: I think there should be an investigation. I think it's 283 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: healthy you. 284 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 6: Had an ICE agent involved in a shooting. What the 285 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 6: White House is going to say is it was clear 286 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 6: self defense. The agent was attacked, this domestic terrorist tried 287 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 6: to run them over, and the Left screams and loses 288 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 6: their mind. Domestic terrorists, How dare you? This is a citizen. 289 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 6: The White House uses the term domestic terrorist because that's 290 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 6: how the left is describing ICE agents. So all they're 291 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 6: doing is utilizing that same methodology back at them. The 292 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 6: left is infuriated about it. Maybe you should stop, maybe 293 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 6: we should all just stop being crazy. But the left 294 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 6: believes that they are somehow ordained by a god that 295 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 6: they don't even. 296 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: Believe in to go do this. 297 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 6: They believe that they are in the right, that they 298 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 6: are somehow touched with the secret knowledge that they can 299 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 6: engage in violence, and they are righteous. If ICE wasn't 300 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 6: doing anything, if ICE was not even involved in any 301 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 6: operations in Minneapolis, the leftists would have somebody else to 302 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 6: go after. Do we not understand what the antifa type 303 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 6: is all about? Do we not understand the concepts of 304 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 6: permanent revolution. There is always something. But even if they 305 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 6: were to disagree with ICE, as one could argue that 306 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 6: they do. If they think that acts of violence, if 307 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 6: they think that attacking ICE agents is proper and good, 308 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 6: they have to be told that they're wrong, because they 309 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 6: are wrong us following the laws. That's what makes sense. 310 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 6: And this leak here, find the leaker, Throw the leaker 311 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 6: in jail for life. 312 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: Cats out of the bag. 313 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 6: You now have two thousand agents who have been almost 314 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 6: quite literally unmasked, and bad things are going to come 315 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 6: from this, which is what the left wants, and they 316 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 6: feel that they are somehow allowed to do it. 317 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 2: They're not. This is Tony Kats today. 318 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 6: We're getting our showers back, everybody. That's a beautiful thing. 319 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 6: That's spectacular. They are repealing some of those Biden error 320 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 6: regulations that wanted to put limitations on your shower. Well 321 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 6: you can't. You can't have this much waterflow. You can 322 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 6: only have that much waterflow. 323 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 2: And we have to save. 324 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 6: The planet and all those things. Two twenty six to 325 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 6: one ninety seven was the vote, saying that watching the 326 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 6: bureaucrats have gone too far and dictating what happens in Americans' 327 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 6: own homes. What I'm hoping this means. What I'm hoping 328 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 6: this means is that you get to keep your guests 329 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 6: of This is a great example, and we'll get into 330 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 6: what happened in the Supreme Court yesterday. It was a 331 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 6: bad day for the progressives who want to make the 332 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 6: claim the boys can be girls and girls can be boys, 333 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 6: who want to be able to engage a mutilation of children, 334 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 6: who can't stop thinking about children's generals. That's all the 335 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 6: left does. All they do is think about kids genitals. 336 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 6: But no, no, they say that about the right all 337 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 6: the time. When when the right pushes back and tries 338 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 6: to tech children from these people who are abusers and 339 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 6: want to mutilate kids, are always like, you can't stop 340 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 6: talking about kids genitals. It's the left that is obsessed 341 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 6: with children's generals. Can't believe I've used that word so 342 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 6: much on the show today. Usually it takes a week 343 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 6: to make that many mentions of genitals. Ah, now the 344 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 6: show's interesting, right, Yeah, I'm glad you're here too. A 345 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 6: real embarrassment for the lawyers involved in trying to bring 346 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 6: these cases to the Supreme Court and ensure that boys 347 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 6: can play in girls' sports. Really embarrassing for Justice Katanji 348 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 6: Brown Jackson, who is not qualified. She just she can't 349 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 6: do it. She isn't smart enough. End of list and 350 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 6: a fascinating take from I think it was the West 351 00:21:53,680 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 6: Virginia Solicitor General regarding these cases and title nine so smart. 352 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 6: I had not heard anybody do this before. Although this 353 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 6: this story may have been out there, I'll break it 354 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 6: down absolutely absolutely special. But when people on the political 355 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 6: right were pushing back against the abuse of children and 356 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 6: and the abuse of young women and telling them they 357 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 6: can't participate in sports there that you can push them 358 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 6: out for a boy who claims to be a girl. 359 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 6: The left said, why are you always involved in these 360 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 6: culture wars? Why is it always about the culture wars? 361 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 6: You're in a culture war. And I have always said, 362 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 6: damn straight, it's a culture war and we're gonna win. 363 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 6: Of course, it's a culture war. It's worth fighting. We 364 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 6: have to win the thing, and we're winning the thing. 365 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: We're not done. We're winning the thing. 366 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 6: The left came out and said, your guest stove is 367 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 6: killing you. We need to get rid of Gastos. And 368 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 6: the people in the political rights said, what the what 369 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 6: the what the mother? 370 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: What? What's wrong with my stove? 371 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 6: And the left said, what do you what are you 372 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 6: talking about gas stoves? Who brought up guests stoves? No 373 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 6: mentioned gas doves. Why are always talking about gas doves? Oh, 374 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 6: you and your culture wars. And they went after gas stoves, 375 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 6: and they went after gas hot water heaters, and they 376 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 6: went after gas furnaces and actually engaged regulations saying you. 377 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 2: Can't have this, you can't use that, you can't use 378 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: the other. Why can't I use natural gas? 379 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 6: It's cheaper, it creates when you're a chef, and creates opportunity. 380 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: Well, now what you need is an invection of it. 381 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you need an invection cookta and you just 382 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 6: use certain pans and it heats right up and it's 383 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 6: safe for all. It's so good for you. Yeah, but 384 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 6: I can't afford that. So thank you Mark Ruffalo for 385 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 6: telling me what an elite a snob you are telling 386 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 6: me how I should live my life. I just want 387 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 6: a gas dove. Well, gas stove that's putting pollutants in 388 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 6: the air, and you're giving your kid asthma. If you 389 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 6: live in an apartment, that's five hundred square feet and 390 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 6: you don't open the window. Yeah, you can create an issue, 391 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 6: but the issue doesn't actually come from the gas. S 392 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 6: dove Udd's are out there that will tell you it's 393 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 6: not about the cook top. It's about what you are cooking. 394 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 6: It's the actual food that can throw things off. So 395 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 6: you've overheated, burning, et cetera. Open window, case closed. Great 396 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 6: example of culture war that the Left tried to perpetrate 397 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 6: on us. 398 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: They know what's better for us. 399 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 6: They know how we're going to be healthy, and they 400 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 6: can't allow us to have things they've decided aren't good 401 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 6: for us. Nobody should want the government deciding what is 402 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 6: good for us. That is a great example of government overreach. 403 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: Now. 404 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 6: I think the president right now is involved in some 405 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 6: government over each when he's trying to say we need 406 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 6: to cap credit card companies at ten percent interest for 407 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 6: a year. No no, no, no, no, no, no no, 408 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 6: that is a terrible idea. I don't want the government 409 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 6: involved in that. That's government overreach. What you want, people 410 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 6: is not spending money on credit cards and spending money 411 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 6: they don't have. You want to create a better economic environment, 412 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 6: which I believe the president can do if he stops 413 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 6: making mistakes like, hey, you're not allowed to charge more 414 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 6: than ten percent, as if the government has any role 415 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 6: in that whatsoever. And the buying of mortgage backed securities 416 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 6: to two hundred billion dollars, which I think he is 417 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 6: also wrong about. But the culture wars, you were always 418 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 6: right to fight because the Left tries to take what 419 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 6: they can, limiting your options and your opportunities. 420 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: I don't think we should be limited people. 421 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 6: I'm glad the showers are back, and of course you 422 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 6: can't mention a shower without mentioning. 423 00:25:54,160 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 2: Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton? Why why? Why was that the 424 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 2: sound effect? Why was Why in the world was that? 425 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't. I don't know what we were 426 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: doing there. I should. 427 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 6: I should, really I should. I should try it again 428 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 6: without Bill Clinton. Male prostitute, All right, closer, closer. Bill 429 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 6: Clinton refused to show up for his deposition. 430 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 2: He was subpoenaed by the House Oversight Committee and he was. 431 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 6: Supposed to show up to speak about Jeffrey Epstein in 432 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 6: the Epstein case, answer questions regarding the Epstein investigation, and. 433 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: He may now be held in contempt by Congress. He 434 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 2: should be. 435 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 6: He wrote a letter saying, this is just an attack. 436 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 6: This is just unnecessary, and you're doing this because of 437 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 6: pure politics. 438 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: Allow me, allow me. 439 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 6: Let's take it away from Bill Clinton just for a 440 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 6: moment and discuss the Epstein files in its broader context 441 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 6: as it has been described over the last few months. 442 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 6: We hear me you this show from the beginning, and 443 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 6: we're on the record, so there's no question here. Release 444 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 6: the Epstein files. Who was involved? Who was involved with 445 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 6: abusing children? How do we ensure that we know who 446 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 6: they are, We prosecute them and have found guilty, throw 447 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 6: them in jail. Who was involved with abusing children? That's 448 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 6: where we started from. That's where we began this conversation 449 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 6: that we are not going to be people who sit 450 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 6: idly by and watch children be abused. We're not gonna 451 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 6: have it. We will not have it for a moment. 452 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 6: They have to go. We can't allow them to be 453 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 6: a part of society. Doesn't matter their last name, doesn't 454 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 6: matter their political affiliation. If they were abusing children, they 455 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 6: have to leave. That's what we said, we want the files. 456 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 6: And then Pam Bondy brings so called influencers to the 457 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 6: White House and everybody gets a binder and they come 458 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 6: outside and they're waving their binders, and what was in 459 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 6: the binders? 460 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: Nothing? Everything we already knew. 461 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 6: And it was the first inclination of maybe Pambondy isn't 462 00:28:51,600 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 6: good at this, Maybe Pambondy is terrible at this. Maybe 463 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 6: I have come to believe that Pambondy is indeed terrible 464 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 6: at this. So after that we then get President Trump 465 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 6: telling us these Epstein things, This doesn't matter. 466 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,959 Speaker 2: He's dead. Why are you paying attention to this? Why 467 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 2: does this matter? 468 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 6: And there are people on the political right and I said, yeah, 469 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 6: we shouldn't be paying attention to this. Trump's right, we 470 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 6: gotta focus on what matters. It doesn't matter. Oh hell no, 471 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 6: you better believe this matters. The President's wrong. He missed. 472 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 6: He didn't understand where the American people were, which is 473 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 6: really weird because he's so incredibly good at it. We 474 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 6: absolutely want the files, and Trump got pushedback, and that's 475 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 6: when you started seeing moves made about, Okay, we gotta 476 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 6: have votes to release this. Okay, we got to look 477 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 6: into this. Democrats took advantage of that opportunity, being in 478 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 6: a people who take advantage of opportunities. 479 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: What do you have to hide? 480 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 6: Trump's hiding it because Trump's and they called him every 481 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 6: name under the sun, when, of course, it is very 482 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 6: clear that Trump stop talking to Epstein when he learned 483 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 6: about him. 484 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: Trump threw him out of Mar A Lago. 485 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 6: And there is no rational person thinking that Trump was 486 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 6: engaged with underage children. Was Trump engaged with women who 487 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 6: were throwing themselves at him every single day of his 488 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 6: single life. Absolutely he was. There is zero proof about 489 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 6: Trump and children. It's just so ugly that I get it, Trump. 490 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: Hater, you want it. 491 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 6: That doesn't mean anything to the rest of us. But 492 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 6: as I said from the beginning, you show me proof. 493 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 6: I want a guy in jail. I don't care his 494 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 6: last name is Clinton, Trump, Gates, doesn't matter. I want 495 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 6: him in jail. Democrats have now made a cause celeb 496 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 6: of this. We have to find out about Epstein. What 497 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 6: is it that the Republicans are hiding. Why won't they 498 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 6: vote on this? Why won't they do that? 499 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: Well? 500 00:30:55,080 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 6: Democrats, nobody seemingly was closer to Jeffrey Epstein then uh 501 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 6: William Jefferson Clinton. 502 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 2: In Epstein's house, there was a painting. 503 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 6: The painting was of Bill Clinton in a blue dress. 504 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 6: If you take a look at the cover of Politico. 505 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 6: You've got Lorne Bobert holding that painting, or I should 506 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 6: say a copy of the painting. It's Bill Clinton sitting 507 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 6: in a chair but his legs draped over the arm 508 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 6: of the chair, in a blue dress, wearing red heels, 509 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 6: pointing at you, the observer. Super weird. It's super duper, 510 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 6: super duper weird. They had a friendship and a relationship. Democrats, 511 00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 6: why aren't you asking why didn't Bill Clinton testify? We 512 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 6: need all the information we can get, We need all 513 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 6: the help we can get. 514 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: We need all the backup we can get. 515 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 6: Where was Bill Clinton to provide any data he could 516 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 6: so we could get an understanding of who's abusing children 517 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 6: so we could bring them to justice. Why is it 518 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 6: that the Democratic Party doesn't care about children? 519 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: How come they're trying to cover up the Epstein files? 520 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: Is that so hard? Is the politics so hard? Here? 521 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 6: Democrats are covering up the Epstein files because Bill Clinton 522 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 6: will not testify. And I believe did Hillary Clinton show 523 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 6: up today or did she also not show up to testify? 524 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 6: We'll find out they have answers. They saw things, man, 525 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 6: maybe they didn't, but if they tell us, we'll know. 526 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 6: But they're not testifying, at least Bill's not testifying covering 527 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 6: up for Jeffrey Epstein. 528 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 2: What did Bill Clinton know and when did he know it? 529 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 6: If Republicans aren't asking that question in every single press conference, 530 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 6: in every single interview they do on TV, starting with 531 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 6: that before they answer the question of the interviewer, if 532 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 6: they're not doing that, they're out of their damn minds. 533 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 6: I'm Tony Katz, this is Tony Kats Today. 534 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: What do you believe? From whom do you believe? When 535 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 2: do you believe it? 536 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 6: I don't think it's out of the realm for any 537 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 6: of us to say when we see something, we're like, yeah, no, 538 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 6: that ain't true. We have to check, we have to 539 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 6: double check, we have to recheck. I do I assume 540 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 6: you do, and I assume you do that even with me, 541 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 6: Tony Katz, Tony Kats Today, good. 542 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 2: To be with you. I wouldn't tell you that you're wrong. 543 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 6: When we see so many people, whether they're not so 544 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 6: much people to do radio radio, but people online and influencers, 545 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 6: there's a question of what moves their message. I am 546 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 6: not someone who believes, oh, everybody's paid off to say 547 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 6: this that or the other. When I started my radio 548 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 6: career in Indianapolis and WIBC, the owner of the station 549 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 6: was so far left I didn't know it was possible 550 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 6: yet Rush Limbaugh was on our station, then locally a 551 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 6: man who was known around the country for his law 552 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 6: skills by name of Greg Garrison, and then me never 553 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 6: once got a note from a very progressive owner about 554 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 6: things to say. My main station, still Indianapolis, is now 555 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 6: owned by a different group. Everyone's got a note about 556 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 6: what to say. If I'm involved with something, I say it. 557 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 6: If I'm connected to someone, I say it. So you 558 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 6: know where I'm at, so you know how to judge 559 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 6: the commentary. That's not true of the influencers. And I 560 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 6: think that it is legitimate on any side of the 561 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 6: aisle to be looking at what it is that they're 562 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 6: saying and where the influence comes from. So when the 563 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 6: Wall Street Journal puts out a story about influencers who 564 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 6: are getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars and taking 565 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 6: trips to Cutter to promote Cutter or taking a pushing 566 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 6: for reclassifying marijuana while they're getting three hundred thousand dollars 567 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 6: from political action committees. This story goes after those on 568 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 6: the political right who are doing that. And I don't 569 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 6: mind outing these people and saying, hey, where are you 570 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 6: getting these money, who are you connected to? What are 571 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 6: you actually telling an audience? And they have large audiences. 572 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 6: This has been going on for the left for years. 573 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 6: I think it is incumbent upon us to check, double check, 574 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 6: and recheck. We should ask ourselves do we want this 575 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 6: kind of money being spent and do we want to 576 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 6: reward that kind of. 577 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: Money and the messages they're putting out. I'm Tony Katz,