1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,279 Speaker 1: So there I was on the air with Carl Higbee 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: at Newsmax talking about Jimmy Kimmel, and he was playing 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: this clip of Jimmy Kimmel talking about Carl Higby. Was 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: a very meta moment and referring to Carl Higbee as 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: a meathead. Well, I've met Carl Higbee in person. I 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: don't think you want to insult that guy. He's very large. 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: But this was about the political right and the political 9 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: left and who you associate with. 10 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: It was moments later after we were done that it 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: was learned that Jimmy Kimmel was being taken off the air, 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: and as we know it now from the Wall Street 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: Journal story, it's Jimmy Kimmel's fault. 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: Carl Higbee joins me right now. 15 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: Frontline is the name of the show every Monday through Friday, 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: six pm over there at Newsmax. This isn't the first 17 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: time Kimmel had talked about you, but it's got to 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: be a. 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 2: Much different perspective of the whole thing. 20 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: Seeing him removed as he was, was Kimmel just going 21 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: after you because it was someone to go after on 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: Newsmax or was there something specific going on? 23 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: Oh, he goes after me quite a bit. Look, this 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 3: is what late night hosts do is you know they 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: poke fun at things that look half the time I 26 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: kind of laugh at it. I mean, that's the seldom 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: times he actually is funny, as when he's calling me 28 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 3: a meathead, because let's be honest, I'm a bit of 29 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 3: a meathead. But the issue is is like it's gotten 30 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: to a point of vitriol and hatred and you know 31 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 3: it's not funny, and that's part of the reason why 32 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 3: he's taken off the air. But you know, I see 33 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: all these late night guys as trying to score points 34 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: rather like their goal. Keep in mind, Tony, and you 35 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: know this, the goal of late night TV is to 36 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: make people laugh, not to score political points, not to 37 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: put a narrative like Jimmy Kimmel told everybody who wasn't 38 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 3: vaccinated deserve to not get treated at hospitals. Like that's 39 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 3: not the role of an evening, funny nighttime host. And 40 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: he failed the litmus test. And that's part of the 41 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: reason why he's not there, because he went so far 42 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: because he thought he could get away with it and 43 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: you know, essentially mock Chirley Kirk's death. 44 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: So I've been a long time believer that the reason 45 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: for the late night host is so those who run 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: the networks can turn to their friends and fellow travelers 47 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: and say, listen, I know sometimes we have to say 48 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: things about Trump in the news that might make him 49 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: look good, but this is how we really feel. It's 50 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: kind of a wink and a nod ideologically to all 51 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: of their fellow travelers. But it's certainly clear in my 52 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: view that Jimmy Kimmel wasn't acting as a comic. He 53 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: was acting as a propagandist. So we start with why 54 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: he would talk about you. Then we get into the 55 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: line that cost him the gig, where he's clearly lying 56 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: about who the assassin of Charlie Kirk was. Did you 57 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: address that on the show that he lied or was 58 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: it a more overarching look at this guy Kimmel over here? 59 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 3: Look, he did lie. He I mean, he deliberately misled 60 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: his audience. And here's the problem is, like, there are 61 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: people that only source their news from one place. They 62 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 3: might get it only from one show, because you know, 63 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 3: people have lives and they only have time to watch 64 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: maybe an hour of news a day. Okay, I'm thankful 65 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 3: for the people who make that one hour with me too. 66 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 3: I mean, so when you have somebody who, let's be honest, 67 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: like his viewership was at the time in the last 68 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 3: few months, has been half half of mine, sometimes far 69 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 3: less than half of mine. But yet he has a 70 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: legacy of millions of viewers because he's in you know, 71 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: ABC's a network thing in every home and so it's 72 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: available to people. So when you tell people that may 73 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: have just gotten home from work and taking their boots 74 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: off and had dinner and put the kids to bed, 75 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: and they're watching that half hour and they see him, say, 76 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: this guy the shooter was a maga extremist. He was 77 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: a maga guy. Don't believe that. The narrative people are like, wow, 78 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: that's the news I got for today, and they will 79 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: go out there and believe something that is patently false, 80 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 3: partently false. And that was the core essence of what 81 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: we were addressing there. But this is the problem with 82 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: media in general, is you have you know, the liberal 83 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: media is losing their mind now that Jimmy Kimber was fired. 84 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 3: He was not fired by a function of Donald Trump. 85 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: He was fired by a function of the private sector 86 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 3: and the free market because there is no more appetite 87 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 3: for this stuff. They are ninety seven percent negative coverage 88 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: of Donald Trump, yet one of their people is dismissed 89 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: and they're losing the mind. The sky is falling. 90 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: Talking to Carl Higbee of Newsmax Monday through Friday at 91 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: six pm, that is the new time. You should check 92 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: them out there And the answer is yes, when it's 93 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: their sandbox, the sky is falling. When they told us 94 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: if we didn't like being the platformed on Twitter, to 95 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: create our own platform, they created Parlor and then they said, 96 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: oh no, you can't have Parlor on the Google. 97 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: Play or in it or the apps to are right, 98 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: This is exactly. 99 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: What they do, which is really about who thinks whom 100 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: is in charge and who thinks whom should be just 101 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: forced to listen when you engage your programming, right, Newsmax 102 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: the upstart. Yet it's been around for two decades and 103 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: the stock price went huge and then got back to 104 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: a bit of rationality after it went public. Do you 105 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: still feel view it that way as the upstart? Are 106 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: you still having conversations? Are there ever conversations at Newsmax 107 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: about here's how we approach things and it's different than 108 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: how they approach things, or is your content moderated? I mean, 109 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: I know I just asked three questions there, but it's 110 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: all part of the same topic. 111 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: Sure. Look, I am very fortunate for me, like I 112 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: the network for the most part lets me be who 113 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 3: I want to be. That's part of what my my 114 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,559 Speaker 3: thing is. That's part of why they gave me the show. 115 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: Is they wanted, like, look, Cony, I didn't finish college. 116 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 3: I'm not some like journalism and guy from you know, 117 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: Harvard or one of these Ivy League schools. 118 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: I'm just a guy. 119 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 3: Okay. I say what's on my mind. Do I say 120 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: it in the best way and the most articulate way possible? 121 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: Probably not, But you know, that's part of what they 122 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: brought me in to do, and they don't. They don't 123 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 3: tell me to be someone that I'm not there. I 124 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: guess report on what you believe in, you know. And 125 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: that's one of the great things about this network is 126 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: there's very little of them coming down on me saying 127 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: you have to say this this way. I would eventually 128 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 3: to say, it's almost none. And I think that resonates 129 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 3: with a lot of people. And that's why our viewership 130 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: is like I don't know, trippled in the last year, 131 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 3: like it's there's a market for normal people, and a 132 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 3: lot of people on our network are just like normal guys. 133 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: Like the two robs that come after me it's seven 134 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 3: and eight, are you know, normal guys with normal jobs. 135 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 3: You know, most of the people on our daytime show 136 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 3: normal people. Like we're not looking for career journalists here, 137 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: We're looking for people who are, you know, suffering from 138 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 3: the same problems as every other American. I think that's 139 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: what makes us different, do you? 140 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: But it's about the approach. 141 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: There's there's no question that Kimmel's approach was that of 142 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: an activist. And I continue to make this argument that 143 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: if you want to call him a comedian, you can, 144 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: but that is not how. 145 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: He approached the show. 146 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: He approached the show as an activist and a propagation 147 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: for a political party, and that is I think downfall 148 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: because it isn't about attracting the wider audience. 149 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 2: But we could say a viewer former Navy seal, the 150 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: things you. 151 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: Talk about, you're talking about illegal immigration, you're eating tacos 152 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: on air, which got you your own heat. 153 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: We've all had our time in the barrel. 154 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: What's the difference, though, Where's the difference that you see 155 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: between how you engage your commentary and how Kimmel was 156 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: engaging his commentary. 157 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing. Obviously, I talk about something that 158 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 3: I'm passionate and like, I don't pretend to be a comedian, 159 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: even though in that clip Kimmell tried to say that 160 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 3: I was, you know, a comedian pretending to be a 161 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,119 Speaker 3: right wing news anchor. Look, I'm thankful that he thinks, 162 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: you know, I have a comedic streak in me. I 163 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: like to, you know, bring levity to things that I can. 164 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 3: But the difference is, like, my job is to inform 165 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: people with you know, with a twist of my opinions. 166 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: That's literally my job as a news anchor. My you know, 167 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: we start off the show with news. The monologue is 168 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: my opinion of the top news of the day, and 169 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: then we go into other news of the day. Jimmy 170 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: Kimmel in a nighttime slot, his job is to entertain people, 171 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: is be funny and things like that. Now you can 172 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: do both. You can have an opinion and things like that, 173 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: and I think that's fantastic, But if you're going to 174 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: be out there, you know, try not being funny in 175 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: order to impose something like imagine if I only came 176 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: on TV and started doing stand up comedy, like it 177 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,559 Speaker 3: wouldn't be my job and the network would be like, hey, Carl, 178 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: you're doing it wrong, and I would They would be right. 179 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: But my job's not that I can be funny and 180 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: get the love of the news. He should have been 181 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 3: funny and occasionally delivered the news, and he didn't do that. 182 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 3: He was, you know, too busy telling the unvaccinated people 183 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 3: they shouldn't go to hospitals and they should die without 184 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: the vaccine. 185 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: Talking to Carl Higbee of Newsmax, by the way, which 186 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: books are yours? There are a couple of books that 187 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: came out under Carl Higbee, Profiles and Freedom, that's you. 188 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 3: Profiles and for him, So I actually am most I 189 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 3: mean with the funny thing here is most people didn't 190 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: know I could read Tony, but I have written four 191 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 3: and soon to be five books, Battle on the Home Front, Enemies, 192 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: Foreign and Domestic, Crisis of Culture, and the most recent 193 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: Profiles and Freedom were I basically was like, there's really 194 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 3: a bunch of important people that some of which we 195 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: know about, some of which we don't, and they should 196 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: all be put in one place so people could read 197 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: it to their kids when they go to bed. Eight 198 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 3: eight pages tops short stories, and you know that's it's 199 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 3: written in a very simple vernacular, just like, Hey, guys, 200 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 3: George Washing, did you know that the British didn't think 201 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: he was officer material? How'd that work out for him? Like? 202 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: It's all kind of written in lightheartedness through that. 203 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: By the way. 204 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: The book Enemies Foreign and Domestic, A Seal story, is 205 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: available at Amazon dot Com, along with his other books 206 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: Before I Let You Go. We've heard President Trump discuss 207 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: things like now go after Fallon and Seth Myers and 208 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: they go after Trump. 209 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: But it's not okay. I don't like that kind of 210 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 2: talk at all. 211 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: They're lying absolutely, If they're mocking, it's part of the gig. 212 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: These are two different things. 213 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: Has the Kimmel really pushing himself off the air? 214 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: But this decision made by Eiger of Disney and ABC? 215 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: Has it, in your view, changed how everybody in the 216 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: late night and really in your space approaches the subject? 217 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: Or are you still wait, I'm doing it? Fine, I'm 218 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: going to keep going as I am. 219 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't you know I do. I'm going to 220 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: continue to do my thing. I mean, let's be honest, 221 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: like this canceled stuff. Look, they canceled me in twenty nineteen, 222 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: okay for something I said in twenty eleven, all right, 223 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 3: and so this is like a sweet victory for me. 224 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 3: And people are like, oh, Carl, that's you know, are 225 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: you out for revenge? Yes, yes I am. I'm not 226 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: above that because these people threatened my children. So when 227 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 3: it happens to them, when they're canceled for something that 228 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 3: they said in real time, by the way, not like 229 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: ten years ago, in real time, I'm like, good, you 230 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 3: know what. This is what you people did to everybody 231 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: else on the Republicans, and now you know what, you 232 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 3: paved this road. We're just gonna drive down it. And 233 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 3: I don't lose sleep over that, and I celebrate it 234 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: because the only way to level the playing field is 235 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: to play by the same set of rules. And for 236 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,719 Speaker 3: too long, Republicans have been getting in the boxing ring 237 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 3: and be like, all right, ump, what's are ref what's 238 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: the rules? And you get hit in the back of 239 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: the head with a chair or a chain from the Democrats, 240 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: and we're like, wait, I didn't know that was the rules. 241 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: Like we need to start playing by the same rules. 242 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: There is a very large standing theory that we told 243 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: the left. 244 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 2: You change the rules, you're not gonna like it. 245 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: It's Mitch McConnell to Harry Reid, You're gonna regret going nuclear. 246 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: You're gonna regret this. And they have Carl Higbee. 247 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: Find him on Newsmax every Monday through Friday at six pm. 248 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: Carl Higby higb I E. You can find him by 249 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: the way on the Twitter xbox over there. Appreciate it 250 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: more to get to I'm Tony Katz.