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Speaker 1: For the Super Bowl, you know, Mike This weekend the

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Speaker 5: to get a center. I mean, it just wasn't going

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00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 5: to work without, you know, just getting a five man

431
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 5: that they could really trust. Uh you know, I mean

432
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 5: it's a center is still critical. As much as the

433
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 5: game has changed, as much as a.

434
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 6: Lot of it is position lists, you still need some size.

435
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 5: You still need you know, you still need a real

436
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 5: partner for you know, your all star point guard in

437
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 5: the pick and roll game. You still need somebody to

438
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 5: read on the basketball. You need still need somebody to

439
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 5: dede to block out. You still need somebody to be

440
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 5: able to finish around the rim.

441
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:56,239
Speaker 7: Uh.

442
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 5: They needed all those things and they had to have Basically,

443
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 5: I think you know, you could see certainly in the

444
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 5: in the structure of.

445
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 6: This deal how important it was. I mean, I really

446
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 6: thought the twenty twenty sixth draft pick was going to

447
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 6: be off limits.

448
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 5: And you know, it's certainly bold for them to go

449
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 5: out and say, Okay, you.

450
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 2: Know, we'll We'll live with.

451
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 6: Losing picks five to nine here. This is how important

452
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 6: it is to us to get a center. But I

453
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 6: think it is. I just I think they are there

454
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 6: in a position. I mean, I'm not saying they have

455
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 6: to win it.

456
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 5: Next year, but really next two three years. You know,

457
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 5: they have to be a championship calendar per team. They've

458
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 5: got too much invested in this and you know, just

459
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 5: the way the contracts work out and everything. I mean,

460
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 5: they've got, you know, probably a two three year window,

461
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 5: but that's what they have. And he has to be

462
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 5: cool to center. So I think they got a lot better.

463
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 5: I mean, certainly you don't. It's still tough to move

464
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 5: on to a guy like Ben Nickmaster and as much

465
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 5: as there's you know, they've learned a lot of what

466
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 5: there is to know about him, and and you know

467
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 5: the fit is is a little wonky. He's still a

468
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 5: really talented player. So it's not easy to walk away

469
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 5: for a guy like that. Even Isaiah Jackson is a

470
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 5: nice player. And you know, you run the risk. You know,

471
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 5: with this twenty twenty six pick and the lottery ball

472
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 5: don't go your way, you can lose it. But I

473
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 5: get them looking at it and saying, you know, even

474
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 5: if you do, it's still worthy to get a center

475
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 5: that you can trust for the media the long term.

476
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: Okay, let me ask you this, Dustin. See this is

477
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: the way I look at it. There have been players

478
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: in the past the Pacers have taken in the first

479
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: round Jeff Foster, Austin Kroscher, first two that come to mind,

480
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: Eric Dampier for that matter, that were capable of being

481
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: very effective players or regular minute players as rookies, But

482
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: they didn't get a lot of rookie minutes because they didn't.

483
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: Now Dampier did, but they didn't have to because the

484
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: team was so deep. Indiana's in a unique situation here

485
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: because yes, they may qualify for a top four pick,

486
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: But that's not indicative of the quality of their roster.

487
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: So they're not in dire need of one of those

488
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: four players, but it would be very nice to have

489
00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: one because it replaces Madron. However, if they fall out

490
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: of that, and they must obviously think to themselves, the

491
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: quality of player is one through four only, right, So

492
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 1: if they fall out of that and they do lose

493
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: the first round pick, do they have a player already

494
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: on the roster that can soften that blow and become

495
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: the fifteen minute off the bench guy night in a

496
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: night out that Mathern was.

497
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 6: I mean, I think yes and no.

498
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 5: I think that those recent developments from Jeris Walker go

499
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 5: a long way of saying, okay, like that the guy

500
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,239
Speaker 5: who can get your points off the bench along with

501
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 5: rebounds and defense, and like you're I think there that

502
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 5: that is something that has factored into their thinking. I mean,

503
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 5: like I got the impressions from talking to Rick that

504
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 5: he was like, Wow, this is what we wanted, you know,

505
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 5: and therefore I really really hope that whatever trade has

506
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 5: made this guy's not a part of it.

507
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 6: You know that that seemed to be the.

508
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 5: Underlying inclination that I was hearing from the way that

509
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 5: he was talking about Jeris Walker recently. But you know,

510
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 5: Jars Walker at his best, you know, and this is important,

511
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 5: but still it's kind of an all around guy.

512
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 6: Like you know, you do miss the microwave scorer.

513
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 5: You know that that you can sometimes get in matter

514
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 5: and I still think they want that, and I don't

515
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 5: know that anybody else that they have on the roster,

516
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 5: you know, necessarily gets you that now. I mean, I

517
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 5: guess you get you get Obi topping points the way

518
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 5: that he scores.

519
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 6: Uh, you know that's there that you're not getting right

520
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 6: now that you will once he's healthy.

521
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 5: You know, you add that, you add another in your

522
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 5: development of Walker. You know, you're still gonna get like

523
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 5: you're still going to get, you know, buckets from McConnell

524
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 5: the way that you're getting buckets. McConnell is tougher for

525
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 5: him to get to the rim, but man, he's he's

526
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 5: shooting it fantastically from from mid range. So even if

527
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 5: he is finds it harder to blow by people, he's

528
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 5: still being effective. So you like, if you imagine a

529
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 5: bench that has those three guys, uh, you know, there's

530
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 5: still points there. He would like a two ish a

531
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 5: two to three type of guy that Kogigi buckets and

532
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 5: Peterson Davons has certainly fall in that category. And Buza

533
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 5: is just such a good player that you're gonna find

534
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 5: out something to do with them. Like, I mean, he's

535
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 5: just you're gonna make them work.

536
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 6: But I think, you know, like if you have if.

537
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 5: You could use a non taxpayer mid level and you know,

538
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 5: try to go get somebody that way, I think they should.

539
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 5: If they end up losing the pick, they should absolutely

540
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 5: look for somebody a two guard that can score in

541
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 5: free agency.

542
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: When you look Dustin at the way that Zubats plays,

543
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: can he play in transition the way Indiana has typically

544
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: liked their centers to play. Or is he strictly pick

545
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: and roll on the low block but not a get

546
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: down and run guy.

547
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he doesn't stand out as a get

548
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 5: down and hunt guy, you know, Like, I mean, that's

549
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 5: that's not going to.

550
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 6: Be his strength.

551
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 5: That doesn't mean he'll never do it. I mean he's

552
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 5: not a total non athlete, you know. I mean, like,

553
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 5: I don't think he's not a complete plottering on that.

554
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 5: I mean, he's not as big as like balanced Unis

555
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 5: or somebody like that or or Nurkic guys that are

556
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 5: like real giants. I mean, he's big, It's very very big,

557
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 5: and he's very fit. So I'm not gonna I don't

558
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 5: when I'm down playing on too much. But his his

559
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 5: strength in the transition game is certainly being the guy

560
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 5: who gets the rebound and starts it, you know, like

561
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 5: grab the ball outlet. You know, probably gonna be behind

562
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 5: the play after that sort of thing. I think there's

563
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 5: probably not gonna be as many scenarios where you know,

564
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 5: like he's even not the Turner was a great rim runner,

565
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 5: but you know, like he like Turner is probably gonna

566
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 5: be better at that part of it, but tu Beak

567
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 5: is gonna better at finishing the previous point, you know,

568
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 5: and you know, like you're you're probably even as far

569
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 5: as them being defenders. But i mean, like Turners was

570
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 5: a better rim protector, but you know, Zubac's probably better

571
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 5: wailling guys off and just saying like okay, like I'm

572
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 5: just not gonna give you a clean look here. You're

573
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 5: not going to get close, uh, you know, to get

574
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 5: a good shot. I mean, I think he's averaging point

575
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 5: eight block per game. I think he's a one point one,

576
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 5: one point two guy, where turners the guys that can.

577
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 6: Get you about to or two a game. You know

578
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 6: he's still gonna.

579
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 5: Do that, But like his his best part of the

580
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 5: transition game is going to be starting it by ending

581
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 5: the previous possession. Again, not gonna say he's never gonna

582
00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 5: do anything for you in term.

583
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 6: There's but that's not going to do strength.

584
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing, dustin this Clearly now the Pacers

585
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: have made it and I'm here for it. I'm not

586
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: blaming them for this at all. I'm on board with this,

587
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: and I think most fans are with this move. And

588
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: by protecting those top four picks, clearly their eyes are

589
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: on one of those top four picks, meaning they can't

590
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: win a lot of games. Here. Are we about to

591
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: see a ton of Ethan Thompson and Quintin Jackson and

592
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: Johnny Furfey and Micah Potter lineups night and nothing against

593
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: those guys, right, but that's not your primary group. Are

594
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: we about to see a lot of that here for

595
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: the remainder of the season.

596
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 5: I mean, That's what I'm thinking, you know, I feel

597
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 5: like that's what everybody's sort of immediate inclination is okay, Well,

598
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 5: if you get the five and you lose it, then

599
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 5: you better tank hard and you better get every possible

600
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 5: lottery ticket you can get to get one of these

601
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 5: four guys, because that that's what really.

602
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 6: Wins you this trade. I mean, like it's you're probably

603
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 6: you're you're probably.

604
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 5: Still okay with it if you don't get it, but

605
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 5: you know, like, man, it makes a real difference if

606
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 5: you do, so I would my initial thought is yet

607
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 5: that being said, there's account and you know, like if

608
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 5: you're Rick Carlisle, you're gonna have a hard time accepting that.

609
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 5: If you're a pastoral Siackham, You're gonna have a hard

610
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 5: time accepting that. Because there is a value to the

611
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 5: idea of saying, all right, well you've got to activate

612
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 5: you back.

613
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 6: Like you don't want to.

614
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 5: You don't want him just figuring out how to play

615
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 5: with the Indiana Pacers in October, you know, like you'd

616
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 5: rather get you know, like if you're gonna get him

617
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 5: in February, like and I imagine they probably will give

618
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 5: him some time, uh, you know for fraternityly if probably

619
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 5: more than you would usually get in the NBA, they'll

620
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 5: probably I mean I would think that, you know, if

621
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 5: you'd usually give a guy two or three days, you

622
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 5: might give him a week in this case, and shoot,

623
00:35:58,920 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 5: might even give him the all stuckering.

624
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 6: But I mean, if I'm Rick Carlisle.

625
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 5: I want this guy out there, you know, like, and

626
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 5: even if I don't win any games, like I want

627
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 5: him to play next to the past with the oakram.

628
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,479
Speaker 5: I want to and to get a sense of the case.

629
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 5: I want him to know what it means that, you know,

630
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 5: like if you have to pick up your guy.

631
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 6: Full court, you know, like because you presume, you know, like.

632
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 5: If they've done less of the stuff they did that

633
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 5: they have been doing this year, but you still wanted

634
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 5: to get an idea of like this is how we

635
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 5: play and for you to be the best player that

636
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 5: you can be, I want you to know how to

637
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 5: do this. Like I think they'd rather not have them

638
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 5: figure that out next September October, so I don't know.

639
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 5: I mean, they're still probably try.

640
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 6: To do both. But like I mean, but on the

641
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 6: other hand, I mean, man, this.

642
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 5: This trade is a whole lot better and you're in

643
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 5: a whole lot better position if you get Zubac and

644
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 5: the top one pick as opposed to you know, like

645
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 5: if you as opposed to being either or, you would.

646
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 6: Rather have both.

647
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 5: So I mean, it definitely puts them in a mind,

648
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 5: you know, it definitely puts them in a tough position.

649
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 5: And you're also seeing that, you know, when those guys

650
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 5: go out, they're not taking it easy either, you know,

651
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 5: like Quinton Jackson is going to go out and try

652
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 5: to get you thirty.

653
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 6: Freaking night, even if he's playing with Devan Thompson though.

654
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 5: You know, but I do think I mean that I

655
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 5: would say more likely than not, you're probably gonna see

656
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 5: them commit to the tank.

657
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 6: But I'm not one hundred percent sure of that, Dustin.

658
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: When you look at the standings in the inverted order

659
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: right now, Sacramento has the worst record. They have a

660
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: game and a half quote unquote lead on the Indiana Pacers,

661
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 3: the Pelicans right there. Brooklyn has thirteen wins, Washington has fourteen.

662
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 3: The Pacers play the Nets once, the Wizards twice. It's

663
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: pretty much a four horse race for those bottom three

664
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: spots because my estimation, New Orleans is not going to

665
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: try to lose games since they don't have their first

666
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 3: overall pick this upcoming year. Because they traded it last

667
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 3: year when you look at how the Pacers could operate,

668
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 3: how do they sell this to Pascal Siakam and Obi

669
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 3: Top and specifically because those are true guys that we

670
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 3: have heard Rick Carlisle glow about in the aspect of

671
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 3: those guys are always wanting to play and now you

672
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 3: have to convince them like, hey, we need you to

673
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: sit out a game here, we need you to sit

674
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: out a game there.

675
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 6: Right, and not just those guys, Mam Harden's Ms McConnell.

676
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 5: I mean, like you're you're talking about hyper competitive people. Yeah,

677
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 5: And I don't know, I really don't now. I mean

678
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 5: when they ask.

679
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 6: Them to sit, they sit. You know, like so far,

680
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 6: you know, they've had three games, not to really two games.

681
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 5: I mean the Golden State game was different, and I

682
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 5: think there was something they only needed two of them.

683
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 6: Because at the time they were still missing most of

684
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 6: those guys.

685
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 5: But you know, you've had two games where we had

686
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 5: to say, all right, second night of back to back,

687
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 5: you guys.

688
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 6: Are all sitting down, and they've done it.

689
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 5: I mean, I think the interesting part is that, okay,

690
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 5: like they're not going to go out and not play.

691
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 5: You know, like if they're gonna be on the floor.

692
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 5: They're gonna play. They're like, they're not going to give

693
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 5: you that film and throw the ball.

694
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 6: To the other team and take it easy.

695
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 5: You know, like if if they're gonna be allowed to play,

696
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 5: they're gonna play. And so if you're gonna want to pay,

697
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 5: you know, they're gonna want to have to be like

698
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 5: all right, well then you're sitting me down.

699
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 6: And so then you know, you get the question.

700
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 5: Of okay, what that looks like to the league, and

701
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 5: and how do you sell out to the league, And

702
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 5: you know, like are you gonna get fined? How much

703
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 5: you're willing to get fined to do that? So I

704
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 5: do wonder how you pull all this off? And you

705
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 5: know that that's the tough part is you get this

706
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 5: player and now you're more competitive and and they've been you.

707
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 2: Know, like that.

708
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 5: That's the kind of awkward piece about this whole season

709
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 5: is a is a complete version of these guys even

710
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 5: without Halliburton.

711
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: Isn't bad.

712
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 6: They've just never they just haven't had that very.

713
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 5: Much, you know, and now you're finally seeing it, and

714
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 5: you know, again you lose Mather and something like he

715
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 5: he had been playing.

716
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 6: Well the last couple of games.

717
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 5: But you know you're gonna run a team, a team

718
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 5: out that's good enough to win basketball games if you

719
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 5: run out all your starters, and so how do you

720
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 5: operate that when it's not good for you to win

721
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 5: basketball games?

722
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 6: I mean, it's going to be tricky.

723
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: You know.

724
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna ask Rick some version of that to night

725
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 5: in Milwaukee. But you know, I don't, like, I'm sure

726
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 5: he's gonna dodge it, Like I'm sure he's not gonna,

727
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 5: you know, provide any insight to it whatsoever. But it

728
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,959
Speaker 5: is the interesting question I have is especially the coach

729
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 5: who wants to win and the coach who wants to teach,

730
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 5: and a bunch of players who want to win and

731
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 5: want to play hard, Like, how do you get across

732
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 5: that You've got to stay within these boundaries? And we

733
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 5: really need a lot of lottery tickets here.

734
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: Obie Topping, would it be behoove them at some point

735
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: to get him back out there just for you know,

736
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: the I'll say the exercise, and I don't mean physically fitness,

737
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just getting in the back

738
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: end of the flow for a while for Obie Topping,

739
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: Or does this signal that Obi Toppin you know what,

740
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: take the ear off.

741
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:30,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it might.

742
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 5: I mean, like I said, I think there's value in

743
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 5: getting him out there, but there's also the counter of

744
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 5: if you're not really going to play, you know, if

745
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 5: you're not really trying to do anything, you know, what's

746
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 5: the point.

747
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 6: So you know, like I think it could go either way.

748
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 5: I mean it seems like like I read like I

749
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 5: guess is right now that he doesn't get out there,

750
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 5: But I think there would be value if he did.

751
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 5: And I'm not ruling out the possibility that he might,

752
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 5: but there is there is the reasons that they all right,

753
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 5: ob just kick it for the rest of the year.

754
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 6: Man, you're good, you know, like just take.

755
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 5: Your time, come back the way that you want to.

756
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 5: If you get you not ready, you don't want to

757
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 5: do it, you don't have to. And not only that,

758
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 5: like we're not pushing for it, you know, like this

759
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 5: is something we need to do, you know, like if

760
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 5: you want to go out there and run Cardio a

761
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 5: little bit, sure, but like I don't think it's going

762
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 5: to be in a really competitive scenario.

763
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: Are you driving to Milwaukee right now? By the way,

764
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: Dustin I'm driving to Milwaukee right now. Are you not

765
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: on two ninety four going around Chicago? Are you?

766
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 6: I'm not nearly that far. I really wish I was.

767
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: Can you report back and let me know whether or

768
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: not they were at the time of the year yet

769
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: where they have flipped the thirty two bran irlocker hair

770
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: replacement billboards into the crazy firework Guy because they flip

771
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: them back every six months.

772
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 6: I will do that, Yes, I will.

773
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 5: I will report back to the airlocker hair things are

774
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 5: one of my favorites.

775
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: That's like every five minutes.

776
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 6: Favorite billboard for me. I know exactly what you're talking about.

777
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: Go into the best place. It is just up nine

778
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: to Avenue off of Juneo. It is the old Paps Brewery.

779
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: Go in there and tell Jim and or Scott that

780
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: the radio guy in Indy says Hi, and have a

781
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: PBR for me before you go back down to five

782
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 1: serve for the game. There's your tip.

783
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 6: Before I go back down to the game.

784
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: That's right, we're after We're after either one. And of course,

785
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: as always at the game itself, we would encourage you

786
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: if you were not working, to enjoy a Mike Ultra

787
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: because they put on our Mini Hoops Challenge with our

788
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: winner on his way to the game or her on

789
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 1: their way to the game as well in Milwaukee, Dustin

790
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: a pleasure as always, appreciate you making time for us

791
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: twice this week.

792
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 6: Absolutely anytime from the.

793
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Star that is on the Java House Peel and

794
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: Port guest line, our friend Dustin joining us. Kevin Bowen

795
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: coming up about fifteen minutes from now. I don't know

796
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 1: if his son is going to do a Super Bowl pick,

797
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: but we'll find out. Is this your favorite Eddie Elton

798
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: John song? Yeah, it's pretty solid. I'm a fan of

799
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Freedom and I'm still Standing, which was kind of

800
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: his like last Hurrah if you will. Yeah, but this

801
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: is I think this is the classic Elton John song. Right. Yeah, Well,

802
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: I mean for that matter of the movie made about

803
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: him was called rocketmand so I guess probably.

804
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 8: So.

805
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: Wasn't that about like one long acid trip or something?

806
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: Did you see that movie? I haven't seen the movie.

807
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: I believe it was, you know, kind of like the

808
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: Wall where people were like, nah, man like that. That's

809
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: a I didn't see it, but I think the whole

810
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: thing was about him being on asset. I could be

811
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: wrong in that. Am I wrong? I might have dreamt

812
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: that I might have just one day when I was

813
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: one of that or Dylan one of the two. Now

814
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan, you know that? Is there more any question

815
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: that is more impossible to answer them? When people are like,

816
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 1: what's your favorite song of all time? I have like

817
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: ten that I cycle through, but the one that I'm

818
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: more often than not land on, even though it's not

819
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: Oasis or Guns N' Roses, the two greatest bands ever assembled.

820
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: And I love the Beatles as well, but more often

821
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: than not I land on like a rolling stone by

822
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan, Jake.

823
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 3: Somebody would like to know if they're crazy to think

824
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: the addition of Ivisa Zubox makes it more likely that

825
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: the Pacers make the play in game rather finish in

826
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 3: the bottom. They're ten and a half games back with

827
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 3: thirty one games left, and many of them against other

828
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 3: tanking teams. Just to feeling this pick, maybe in the top,

829
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 3: maybe in the ten plus side of the protection.

830
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: Of the top four. You know what's going to be fascinating.

831
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,399
Speaker 1: There's something very interesting in play there, and I'll tell

832
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: you just before Kevin joins us next Little Aerosmith for

833
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:52,959
Speaker 1: you here ready.

834
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought this was an appropriate song to play

835
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 3: with Kevin, you know, because you used to do the

836
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 3: morning show together.

837
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: Look at you. I thought you would feel this way

838
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: about Kevin. I hate to say this. I shouldn't say this,

839
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: I shouldn't admit this, but I literally and I should

840
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: have jotted it down right there. What were we just

841
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: talking about before? And somebody texted in on the text

842
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: lenh Yeah, asking that's right about the pick.

843
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: If it would be more likely that the Pacers are

844
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: trying to compete to make the play in with the

845
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: addition to Zubos because they're ten and a half out

846
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 3: and have games against some other taking teams left.

847
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: So excellent question. An excellent question, and because it creates

848
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: an interesting perspective here because for those that don't know,

849
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 1: and the easiest way to say it, the Pacers two

850
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: thousand and We probably should have explained this earlier, but

851
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: the Pacers draft pick this year they have traded to

852
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: the Clippers with condition if that draft pick is slotted

853
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: to be one of the front four in the draft,

854
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: the Pacers keep it, and then their twenty thirty one

855
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: pick goes to LA If that draft pick happens to

856
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: be pick ten or later, they keep it same thing,

857
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 1: then their twenty thirty one pick goes to the Clippers.

858
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: If that pick is picked five through nine then meaning

859
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: if they're in that draft lottery to try to get

860
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: the number one pick and they slop back to five, six, seven,

861
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: eight or nine, then the Clippers get the pick. So

862
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: what that means is this, And I can tell you

863
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: this as sure as the fact that my name is

864
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: Jake Querry and my voice is horse. I can tell

865
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: you that the Pacers are at this point as of

866
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: February sixth, Happy birthday to my sister Juje her birthday today,

867
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: Happy birthday Jus along with Ronald Reagan, Bob Marley, Axel Rose,

868
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: Tom Brocought, Natalie Cole. But I can tell you as

869
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: sure as all of those Indiana is at this point

870
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: keeping that pick because they want to get one of

871
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: the top four picks. They and they left it protected

872
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: because they do not want to miss out on the

873
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: opportunity of one of those front four players. But what

874
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,399
Speaker 1: becomes interesting then is if they cross over some sort

875
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: of a threshold two months from now where that top

876
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: four pick looks further and further in the rear view

877
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: mirror because they have managed to win games. Then yes,

878
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: they probably push in at that point to say, you

879
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: know what, We've got to improve our stock now to

880
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: make sure that this pick becomes like the twelfth or fourteenth.

881
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: So we keep it and get something out of it

882
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: and get a draft get a draft pick. That's going

883
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: to be an interesting thing to watch. But I can

884
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 1: tell you that as of right now, the game plan

885
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: is this trade, in the eyes of the Pacers, was

886
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: to land Zubots and then also the opportunity of one

887
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: of those four wings. Without question, Kevin bow enjoyed us

888
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: now job ause Peel and poor guest line, Kevin, I'm

889
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: curious did you get some sort of when you when

890
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: you had to ship the Ben Matheren statue out west?

891
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: Was it expensive to do so or is it not?

892
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: You have been assembled and you had to send it

893
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: in a bunch of different parts.

894
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm going to send it on your road trip

895
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 9: you and Mike byronsect road trip. I figured and I

896
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 9: figured you guys could help me out on that if

897
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 9: you don't mind. There sure currently consulting with an LA

898
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 9: construction company.

899
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: So right enough, kind of where my Friday is.

900
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: At hey I mentioned, and we'll get into the trade

901
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: a little bit here in a second. I know you

902
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: guys have talked about it in the morning, but I

903
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: want to get into something that I mentioned to Eddie

904
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: and you have your you've seen stand by me, correct, Kevin?

905
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: Sure?

906
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: Okay, So in the scene and stand by me. Even

907
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: though Eddie is the one of all of us that

908
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: looks the most like vern when the train is coming,

909
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: it's not. Actually it's gets Gordy that puts his hands

910
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: down on the rail to feel that the train is

911
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: coming on the treshole, correct, I.

912
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 2: Yes, I believe that's kind. I'm trying to picture the

913
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 2: four of them right now. I guess two of them

914
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: right now.

915
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it's Gordy. But at any rate,

916
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: so if it is Gordy, you're the Gordy of the group.

917
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: In other words, you're the one that has your hand

918
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 1: on the rail to anticipate and feel when it comes

919
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: to the NFL and the Colts in particular, You've got

920
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: much more pulse on it than I. Open disclaimer, however,

921
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: I'm curious if you agree with this, and feel free

922
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: to disagree. It feels to me like from a cultural standpoint,

923
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: not the game itself. I think the game is pretty intriguing,

924
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: but in terms of you know, previews of commercials and

925
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: you know emails of like hey, buy a square in

926
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: my Super Bowl square and adds on the radio of

927
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 1: you know, come out or on television come to this

928
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: restaurant for a Super Bowl party, or walking into their

929
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: grocery store and seeing a huge display of free doo's

930
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: in the shape of a Seahawk logo or Patriots logo

931
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: or whatever. It just feels like this is the most

932
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: muted and lack of buzz super Bowl culturally, speaking of

933
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: recent memory.

934
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 9: Agree or disagree, Yeah, I think there is, you know,

935
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 9: a decent amount of that. I mean, it's probably one

936
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 9: of the least sexy quarterback matchups we've had in quite

937
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 9: a while. I think you probably start there, and you know,

938
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 9: in our little news cycle, we've had obviously quite the

939
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 9: college football story that played deepen in.

940
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: The month of January.

941
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 9: And then you know, the Pacers made one of the

942
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 9: more important trades. But I don't think it's that crazy

943
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 9: to say one of the more notable trades in franchise

944
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 9: history really, when you consider how much was dealt to

945
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 9: the La Clippers there. So yeah, I think, you know,

946
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 9: big picture, that has a lot to do with it,

947
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 9: the lack of the quarterback juice baby, and then in

948
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 9: general for our you know sports cycle, it's not like

949
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 9: we've you know, really been scratching and clawing for topics.

950
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: We've had pluncy here in recent weeks.

951
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I also think with it being out on

952
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: the West coast, Kevin, that also is a factor, is

953
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: it not, Because you know, it used to be that

954
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 1: like Media Day there are always like fun wacky videos

955
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: coming out of Media Day and like the team arrivals

956
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: and all that. But the time difference just it just

957
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: feels like it's kind of on a secluded spot. Does

958
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: that make sense?

959
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 5: Yeah?

960
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 9: And you know, even like you know, in kansasit he's

961
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 9: been in recent years. You know, I feel like we

962
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 9: have like Carson Steele on one time, maybe like you

963
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 9: guys had George carloftis like, there's not really I think

964
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 9: Elijah Sharat's brother, I believe place for the Seahawks, and there's.

965
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,720
Speaker 1: A new pal kid, yeah, Max Hook the squad.

966
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, but there's not really even local not even really

967
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 9: former cult angles to this either. So that's probably played

968
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 9: into that. And I don't know, there's probably a decent

969
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 9: chunk of the audience if you ask them to name

970
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 9: the head coach of the Seattle Seahawks. I don't know

971
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 9: if everybody out there would get the first in the

972
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 9: last name, right.

973
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: You know, let's talk about the quarterback of the Seahawks. Okay,

974
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: not the coach, but the quarterback and Sam Darnold. We

975
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: know the storyline of Sam Darnald, but Sam Donald a

976
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: year ago was taking snaps and in a quarterback room,

977
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, with Daniel Jones, right, And obviously they went

978
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: with JJ McCarthy In Minnesota. Ryan Grigson is the assistant

979
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 1: general manager in Minnesota. McCarthy, you know, the general manager

980
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: is gone there. I don't know who was the one

981
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: that most pushed in for JJ McCarthy this year. But

982
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: let's just say hypothetically that Minnesota decides that McCarthy still

983
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: needs another year to learn and you know, whatever it

984
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: may be, and Ryan Grigson looks at it and goes,

985
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, there's probably no love you know between Gregson

986
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: and just you know Ballard and all that. And I

987
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: mentioned this yesterday. Is there any chance, because it would

988
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: be somewhat plausible that he knows the medical staff, he

989
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: knows the roster, he knows the system. Is there any

990
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: chance that Minnesota throws out an offer to see if

991
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: they can bring back Daniel Jones and correct their air

992
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: of letting him go. Yeah.

993
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 9: I think they are the one team out there that

994
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 9: I am most curious about, So yes to I guess

995
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 9: answer the question simply. If I'm not mistaken. I believe

996
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 9: Minnesota offered more than the Colts last year, and Daniel

997
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 9: Jones very correctly read the room and said, well, you know,

998
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 9: a couple of million less, but go to a place

999
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 9: where the leash for the incumbent starter is much shorter.

1000
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 2: I e.

1001
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 9: Anthony Richardson, That's that I'm gonna ahead and do. And he,

1002
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 9: you know, viewed that correctly and obviously worked.

1003
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: Out very well for him.

1004
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 9: Now I would add yes from the Daniel Jones, I

1005
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 9: am kind of curious could Minnesota be a landing spot.

1006
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 2: For Anthony Richardson?

1007
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 9: And I don't want to make too much out of

1008
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 9: you know, Kevin O'Connell's you know, post game visit with

1009
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 9: Anthony Richardson on the field a couple of years ago,

1010
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 9: but or maybe his last year and now to think

1011
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 9: about it. But you know is that clearly they are

1012
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 9: not suber comfortable with JJ McCarthy. So you know, I

1013
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 9: tend to think more of the veteran route would be

1014
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 9: where they want to go, given you know how this

1015
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 9: past season played out. But I am interested Richardson related.

1016
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: Two on that end.

1017
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 9: So a current quarterback playing for the Vikings next year

1018
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 9: doesn't sound like the craziest thought in the world to me.

1019
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: Okay, So which leads to this question. And this is

1020
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: where Kevin, I know this will shock you where I

1021
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: overthink it. Okay, but let's analyze this. Of the two

1022
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: Colts quarterbacks, and Daniel Jones is not under contract, we

1023
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: know that. But of the two quarterbacks it would be

1024
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: most likely to be the starter next year. It would

1025
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: be Daniel Jones or Anthony Richardson of those two, which

1026
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: one would perceive to be the bigger blow to the

1027
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: Colts direction and brass if they were to lose them.

1028
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: Well, first off, happy birthday to your sister Juje.

1029
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 9: I'll never forget meeting her at your fiftieth birthday party

1030
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 9: and walking way I think about myself, that was.

1031
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: Jake Query's sister.

1032
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 9: I mean in the world is that person with the

1033
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 9: amount of humility I just witnessed related to the other

1034
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 9: ones now and I felt that way about your other

1035
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 9: sister as well, to be totally.

1036
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: Honest, So a person of high character is what you're

1037
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 1: getting at, right.

1038
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: Yes, very much so.

1039
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 9: So happy birthday to her and very impressive by you

1040
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 9: that you rattled off all those birthdays but not chocking

1041
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 9: at all at the same time. Well, I guess am

1042
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 9: I totally following the question. I mean Jones would be

1043
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:33,840
Speaker 9: the bigger part, right.

1044
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: I mean obviously that's so My point is is it possible? Okay? Now,

1045
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 1: this is the This is the weird neuroticism of thinking

1046
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: about the vindiction that can take place in sports. Is

1047
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: it possible that Minnesota, knowing and he might not be

1048
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: the guy that ultimately is the one pushing the final button?

1049
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: But Ryan Grigson has some voice there. I think Ryan

1050
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: Griggson has always felt like Chris Ballard got more opportunity,

1051
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: more leash, more benefit of doubt than did Ryan Griggson

1052
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis while running the Colts. I think now we

1053
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: can say that safely, is it possible that Minnesota goes

1054
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: after Daniel Jones, not just because it makes sense for Minnesota,

1055
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: but also because of the added bonus that it would

1056
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: completely derail Indianapolis and Chris Ballard.

1057
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 9: I don't know, that seems a little playground, the little

1058
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 9: little high school for me.

1059
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 2: I just think they clearly.

1060
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 9: Don't know what they have a quarterback, or don't believe

1061
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 9: in what they have a quarterback.

1062
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 2: And Daniel Jones.

1063
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 9: I mean, if you look at the free agent quarterbacks,

1064
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 9: aren't we looking at a list of like Aaron Rodgers,

1065
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 9: Malik Willis, and Marcus Mariota. I mean pretty much the

1066
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 9: Jillones looks like, you know, the valedictorian of that class

1067
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 9: pretty easily.

1068
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I'm not going to.

1069
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 9: Act like whatever a little human element isn't in any

1070
00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 9: of or frankly all of.

1071
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: Us when it comes through that.

1072
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 9: But I think business wise that makes the most sense

1073
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 9: more than it does, you know, trying to be sneaky

1074
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 9: and one up somebody.

1075
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: By the way, I was just thinking about my fiftieth birthday,

1076
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: which was a surprise but not really a surprise, and

1077
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: it was very cool that you were there. We were

1078
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: doing the morning show together at the time, and I

1079
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: felt bad for you. I've told you this before, because

1080
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: you know, you didn't know a lot of my high

1081
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: school friends. So you know, thankfully that Notre Dame Ohio

1082
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: state game was on, so you know you could sit

1083
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: there and watch that game. But having said that, it

1084
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: was cool to have you there. And then I got

1085
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: to thinking about it and Dyton wasn't there. Now, was

1086
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: he not invited? Or did he stiff me? Yeah, I'm gonna.

1087
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 2: Hope and that he just stiffed you.

1088
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 9: Well, I guess I don't hope for either of that night. Yeah, yeah,

1089
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 9: I believe that's the case there.

1090
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 2: Did he really not show up?

1091
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: He wasn't there, now that I think about it.

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00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 9: Man, I didn't know if Farcas was giving him a

1093
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 9: swirl of the bathroom or what.

1094
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: Was happening there, But that's also possible. Yeah, I guess

1095
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: you're right. I guess he didn't. He didn't show up

1096
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: to that.

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00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: By the way, the other day, Kevin, I took an

1098
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: Uber to work and I was ubering home and my

1099
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: Uber driver was Micah Shrewsbury's niece, So we had a

1100
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: good conversation about not Tre Dame basketball. She was getting

1101
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: ready to go down to Louisville to watch Notre Dame

1102
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: play Louisville. Did you go down for that game?

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00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 9: No, but probably the best game that not here name's

1104
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 9: played in quite a while. I can only imagine how

1105
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 9: you detoured the icebreaker of Oh yeah, for me, I

1106
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 9: had a former radio co host that took a shirt

1107
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 9: off here that's.

1108
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: Exactly what I said, That's exactly what I said, and

1109
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 1: brought in donuts.

1110
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, all of that right there. Something else

1111
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 2: is topping in my head.

1112
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, Well, why did I pick you up for

1113
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 9: work one day? Were you flying somewhere or is that

1114
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 9: why I picked you up one day?

1115
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: I think that was when my car was on it's

1116
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: three and a half month hiatus for a simple oil

1117
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 1: change that turned into a nightmare, I.

1118
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 9: Think, yeah, yeah, I I do remember picking you up. Yeah,

1119
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 9: and then you also drove me home one day when

1120
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 9: I left.

1121
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 2: What happened there that I leave my keys?

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00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 9: Yeah?

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00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you left your keys? Yeah. See see the kind

1124
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: it See. People don't realize the kind of chemistry that

1125
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: goes on here.

1126
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: Right yeah, Oh yeah, peanut butter and jelly right here.

1127
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, exactly right. You know, South Alabama used

1128
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: to have a back court called peanut butter and jelly,

1129
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: just so you know, in case you're wondering, Kevin. But

1130
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: let's get back to the cults and themselves. And I

1131
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: am fascinated by the Daniel Jones thing, Kevin, and I

1132
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: think we just we kind of touched on this a

1133
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: little bit, but I want to go back to it.

1134
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: The presumptive narrative for everybody is that it's a fada,

1135
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: complete automatic that Daniel Jones will be back here next year.

1136
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: And I think that's probably true. But do you believe

1137
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: that there are franchises that will make overture towards him

1138
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: aside from maybe Minnesota or does the Achilles basically dilute

1139
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: that down to where, yeah, it's going to be somebody

1140
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: that's familiar with them only and everybody else will go

1141
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: a different direction. Yeah.

1142
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 9: I mean there might be a little bit of hesitancy

1143
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 9: from teams, but again, when you read off the free

1144
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 9: agent quarterback list, it quickly quickly makes you want to,

1145
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 9: you know, hop in one of these little snow piles.

1146
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 9: So I think Daniel Jones is easily the bell of class.

1147
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 9: So Minnesota course has the history. Now it's not long

1148
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 9: but just a couple of months, but still it's not

1149
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 9: nothing there and really, and you know it's quite well

1150
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 9: from covering sports as long as you have, it's very

1151
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 9: interesting to see how public bolth Daniel Jones and the

1152
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 9: Colts have then about they're not only love for each

1153
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 9: other recently but future wise. You know, there's really no

1154
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 9: public hardball being played here. You know, honestly, when you

1155
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 9: look at the Pacers trade, you know, probably one of

1156
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 9: the big questions of the trade that I admitted this

1157
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 9: morning I should have done a better job up throughout

1158
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 9: the week was like, does Benanic Matherin want to be

1159
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 9: here long term? You know, like that's like a big factor.

1160
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 2: Well, if you.

1161
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 9: Put that question to the Daniel Jones situation. By all accounts,

1162
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 9: Daniel Jones wants to be here. He has said that publicly,

1163
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 9: and the Colts have said the long term phrase with

1164
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 9: him as well. So you know, again, sometimes you get

1165
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 9: in these situations and even if you do want to

1166
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 9: continue the marriage, at least from a leverage standpoint, you

1167
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 9: play a little public hardball to try and you know,

1168
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 9: keep the price as low as possible. That's not really

1169
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 9: happening here and not happening at the most important position

1170
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 9: in sports with quarterback. So the other element, too, is

1171
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 9: the franchise tag. You know, the Colts can quiet this

1172
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 9: conversation very quickly if they just franchise tag Daniel Jones.

1173
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 2: Now I wouldn't do that.

1174
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 9: It's forty six million dollars guaranteed for one season. That

1175
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 9: doesn't sound very financially savvy coming off to torn Achilles,

1176
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 9: and I think the franchise sad would actually make more

1177
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 9: sense for Alex Pearce than it would Daniel Jones. But

1178
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 9: that is another part of this. If they really are

1179
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 9: nervous about the Vikings or something along those lines, then

1180
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 9: they could go down that path.

1181
01:01:55,520 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: Kevin, your oldest daughter is how old now? She is

1182
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: five five? What will her age be when Reggie Wayne

1183
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: gets inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame?

1184
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 2: Oh boy, that's a great one. Boy.

1185
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 9: I would say she's had several years of elementary at

1186
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 9: that point. The first number, I thought it was ten.

1187
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 9: You know, I just to break it down. I guess

1188
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 9: for people why I think it's going to be that long.

1189
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 9: You know, Tory Holt I believe is well first off.

1190
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 9: Next year's first ballot class has Adrian Peterson, Rob Gronkowski.

1191
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 9: I feel like there's one more that I feel like

1192
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 9: could be a first ballot, but let's just start there.

1193
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 9: You know, I don't feel great about it happening next year,

1194
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 9: and then he is still I think of the eyes

1195
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 9: of the selection committee, I think he's behind Tory Holt.

1196
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 9: So whenever Tory Holt goes in, which I don't think

1197
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 9: would be next year, then I think he's going to

1198
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 9: have to wait at least another year off of that. So,

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01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 9: you know, Mike Chappell said to us this morning that

1200
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 9: Reggie Wayne did not make the cut down to seven,

1201
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 9: did not make the cut down to ten. He is

1202
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 9: somewhere in the eleven to fifteen range with this year's class.

1203
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 9: So you know, again in the eyes of the selection committee,

1204
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 9: he's not even at level you know, that tier just

1205
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 9: out like he's not even the first four out if

1206
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 9: you want to play the selection committee sort of.

1207
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: View of it. And again I disagree with that.

1208
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 9: Like I hear some of the thinking of like, oh,

1209
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 9: he didn't make enough highlight real catches or whatever Peter

1210
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 9: King said the other day, and I'm like, you know,

1211
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 9: if you really want to get into this, okay, popping

1212
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 9: the orange glove game of what he did against the

1213
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 9: Hall of Famer and Charles Woodson. You know, one of

1214
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 9: the greatest regular season games in NFL history, the fourth

1215
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 9: and two game. You know, go back to the game

1216
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 9: when he touched down and Reggie's cats there. If you

1217
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 9: want to play the Marvin Harrison card, let's go back

1218
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 9: to the season where Marvin was cut short after five

1219
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 9: games and who led the NFL and receiving that year?

1220
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 2: It was Reggie Wayne.

1221
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 9: So I just again I disagree with it, But to

1222
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 9: answer your question, I think we're looking at several years

1223
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 9: before he gets the call.

1224
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 1: Next year, Ben Roethlisberger also joins the balloting. Next year

1225
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: he's and again this goes back to Kevin. Roethlisberger and

1226
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: Peterson both fall into the category of do you hold

1227
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, extra curriculars are off field scandal against a

1228
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: player they're not supposed to, but you wonder if that

1229
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: comes into play with both cases. But Roethlisberger also there

1230
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 1: are only two quarterbacks with multiple Super Bowl wins who

1231
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: have been on the ballot to not get in so far,

1232
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: and it's Eli Manning and Jim Bluckett. Roethlisberger would be

1233
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: the third. I think Roethlisberger probably ultimately gets in as well, don't.

1234
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 9: You well he's got yeah, because he's got more of

1235
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 9: the counting stats than Eli Manning does. He's got a

1236
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 9: little bit more on the resume there from that aspect.

1237
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 9: So you know, again, if you're looking at that class,

1238
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 9: let's just say Peterson gets in, Let's say Gront gets in,

1239
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 9: and Roethlisberger, let's just say all three of them are

1240
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 9: first ballot. Then you throw in one from the like

1241
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 9: Willie Anderson has been has got that cut down to

1242
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 9: seven multiple times.

1243
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 2: You know, then maybe.

1244
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 9: Okay, there's your four person class for next year. And

1245
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 9: then the next year I believe is Brady So obviously

1246
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 9: he's in. And then you know the thing that's going

1247
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 9: to continue to hurt Wayne, but it's going to continue

1248
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 9: to help Frank Gore as the positions they play. Frank

1249
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 9: Gore is going to continue to look good because we

1250
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 9: aren't going to have as many running backs. We aren't

1251
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 9: gonna have as many running backs with the entire resume

1252
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 9: that Gore has, with the pass happy nature of the NFL,

1253
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,080
Speaker 9: we're gonna get you know, a few more whiteouts to

1254
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 9: either a pop up on the ballot or b you know,

1255
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 9: start to pass Reggie Wayne like I think when Wayne retired,

1256
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 9: I want to say he was second in postseason catches

1257
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 9: and I believe postseason yards, and I'm pretty sure he's

1258
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 9: been passed stuff on that by at least two players.

1259
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 9: I think Grock might have been one of them, actually,

1260
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 9: so you know that. Or Kelsey, I think it's definitely

1261
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 9: one of them as well.

1262
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 2: So you know, again, with the past happy dation.

1263
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 9: Of the league, the wide receiver resumes are not going

1264
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 9: to look as pristine or as impressive as they already do.

1265
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: Give me your Super Bowl prediction. I have only one.

1266
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 1: I will and I don't mean necessarily even score, but

1267
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: just something about the Super Bowl that you're pretty sure of.

1268
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 9: I think the game is going to be a lot

1269
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 9: lot closer than people think.

1270
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: And I picked New England this morning.

1271
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 1: Okay, I have two predictions, actually I said one. I

1272
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: have two. The first is that the team that is

1273
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: elected to call it will call tails, it will be heads,

1274
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: and it will then be deferred. That's prediction one. I believe, Kevin,

1275
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: this Super Bowl will have a defensive player named as

1276
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:57,040
Speaker 1: the MVP.

1277
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, I heard you said earlier in the week, and

1278
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 9: I I agree. Shockingly, I I kind of agreed with

1279
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 9: you when you said that. I also think we could

1280
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 9: get just in general, the non quarterback, like you know,

1281
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 9: oftentimes we just side to the quarterback. I mean, hell,

1282
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 9: the Colts Bears Super Bowl is probably the biggest, uh.

1283
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 2: You know, reason for that.

1284
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,959
Speaker 9: But you know, like, could we get a Jackson Smith

1285
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 9: and Jigbu. Could we get a Stefan Diggs, you know

1286
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 9: for example, where oftentimes the wide receiver just doesn't get

1287
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 9: that many votes because they go with the person that

1288
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 9: threw the ball to him. But I feel like Darnold

1289
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 9: and Drake may are kind of viewed as you know,

1290
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 9: kind of that. So I don't know if that's outright

1291
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 9: defender like you said, but yeah, could we get maybe

1292
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Speaker 9: another player that's not a quarterback as.

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01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:44,200
Speaker 2: The MVP.

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01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: That would feel.

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01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 5: Good.

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01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 1: Jimmy feels it's going to be one of the running

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01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 1: backs for Seattle. I saw him at the Pacer game

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01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: and he told me that, and I think that's a

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01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: pretty good call as well, right to be Kenneth Hawker.

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01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 9: Or now that I now that I heard that, Jake

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01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 9: Query no going to a good Jimmy.

1302
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 3: On that got good Sharbert answer touring a CEO so

1303
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 3: he's not playing.

1304
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: So he is definitely, I didn't realize that he's out out.

1305
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: I know that they that he was questionable.

1306
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 9: But teams have electric return men Marcus Jones and Rashid Shaheed.

1307
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 9: So if you know, last time Seattle was in the

1308
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 9: Super Bowl, didn't Percy Harvin take the opening kickback for

1309
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 9: a touchdown? Or I guess that would have been the

1310
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 9: time they wanted, not the last time. But you know,

1311
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 9: if you get the kick return is now more of

1312
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 9: a thing in today's NFL, So that could be something

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01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 9: that I.

1314
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 1: Feel like we haven't even heard, like the you know,

1315
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: it used to be there were ten thousand prop bets

1316
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: that but he was talking about and the fun prop

1317
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 1: bets out there, and oh man, you can wager on

1318
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: which is gonna happen more Darnold's gonna have more passing

1319
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 1: yards or there'd be points scored in the Lakers game

1320
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: that night. Like, I don't even hear much of.

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01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 2: That, right, Well, one I've seen. I don't know if

1322
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 2: you would like to dabble in it.

1323
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:56,839
Speaker 9: But approval rating for our current president or the longest

1324
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 9: reception in the game, hmm, I.

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01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: Mean with Jackson Jackson Smith and Jigba, Like, I mean,

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01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 1: you could probably go with him even if it was

1327
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: like jfk oh Reagan, right, you know what I mean.

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01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: I mean he might he might get an eighty two yarder, right, that.

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01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 9: Would be quite something there off the top of your head.

1330
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 9: Jeff Rickerd cheated at this this week, so please don't

1331
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 9: do that.

1332
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 2: Uh.

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01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,479
Speaker 9: The most catches in a Super Bowl game was by who.

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01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a great one.

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01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 7: Uh.

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01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 1: Can I let me ask this hint question? And Eddie's

1337
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 1: going to start doing a tilted world telling me that

1338
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: we're to wrap me here? Would this be? Would this

1339
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:44,640
Speaker 1: be before or after my broadcast career began.

1340
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 2: After?

1341
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 1: Well after? Was it in a winning effort?

1342
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 2: Didn't look like it for a while.

1343
01:09:55,479 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'll go WITHNK. I mean, I'm just going

1344
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: without thinking through it because we're sure. I'll go with Gronkowski.

1345
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, Mark guests, I think like Edelman or Welker, I

1346
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 9: feel like those are safe guesses. Right, Team running back

1347
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:16,959
Speaker 9: James White with a fourteen catch game in their comeback

1348
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:17,719
Speaker 9: over the Falcon.

1349
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:22,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that is a remarkable stat That is it's at.

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01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 9: We'll leave you with this one, and I'm not I

1351
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 9: know we gotta break Eddy, so sorry, but the most

1352
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 9: rushing yards in a Super Bowl game. I would not

1353
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 9: have gotten this, but I feel like your brain would.

1354
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,320
Speaker 1: Okay, was it a winning effort?

1355
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 9: I think so, But my intitency probably gives you what year.

1356
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: Was before or after my broadcast career.

1357
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 2: I wasn't in the womb.

1358
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: Kenny King, Timmy Smith. Oh, I should have known that.

1359
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,639
Speaker 1: I should have known that for the for the Redskins, right.

1360
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, eighty seven, if that's all right?

1361
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: I known that two six, two thirty six.

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01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 9: I think it was like two o four your fastball

1363
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 9: a little here, it.

1364
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: All starts to mush together, and I'm I'm wacky on

1365
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: the niquill, so you know. Yeah, bear with me, right.

1366
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck, listeners. Ninety more minutes to go?

1367
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: All right, Kevin, did your son make a prediction?

1368
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 9: No, but but we should bring out the helmet. I

1369
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 9: think he'll go Seahawks. I think he went Seahawks when

1370
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 9: that helmet was presented to him. A few he keeps

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01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 9: on calling the Patriots the Texans. He's very confused by that.

1372
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well fair enough, all right, enjoy the weekend, Kevin.

1373
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 1: Enjoyed the game. See you Boys, Kevin Bowen, Kevin Bellen

1374
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 1: joining us Joba House peelingport guest line. How did I

1375
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 1: not know? Timmy Smith should have known that that was also?

1376
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: I think that was the same game. Was an outword?

1377
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: Was that the same year or the other year when

1378
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: Doug Williams went nuts? They had a third quarter or

1379
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,839
Speaker 1: a second quarter that was just unbelievable. I can't believe anything.

1380
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,479
Speaker 1: Kenny King had an eighty I believe Kenny King had

1381
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: like an eighty touchdown run in the Super Bowl over

1382
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: Ron Jaworski's Eagles. That's why I thought Kenny King Marcus

1383
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 1: Allen would have been a safe pick because of his

1384
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: sweeping reverse run of the field.

1385
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Doug Williams had three hundred and forty yards passing

1386
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 3: four touchdowns.

1387
01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the same game. Yeah Yeah, Okay, I knew

1388
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: it was. But I'm going to three forty eight this morning.

1389
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:23,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait, not wake up in a cold sweat,

1390
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 1: because I'll still be awake, but I'll be thinking about

1391
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:30,719
Speaker 1: that for sure. Back into what happened yesterday in the NBA.

1392
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 1: I had a request last night that we're going to

1393
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: fulfill about the trade deadline next Okay, Eddie, I'm going

1394
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 1: to reread my post from yesterday because you don't want

1395
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: to admit it, but you're now swept up in this mania. Nope.

1396
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: Over the years, the Pacers via trade have traded a Kobe,

1397
01:12:57,800 --> 01:13:04,759
Speaker 1: excuse me, traded for Kobe, traded a Bryant. They've traded

1398
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 1: two Isaiahs and one Thomas. They've landed three Jalens, a

1399
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: Mark A Jackson, Mark Jackson, a Reggie A Miller, two TJ's.

1400
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 1: They Delta, Thompson, got a Thompson, got some right, gained

1401
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: a Wong. They've acquired a Spaniard and Delton English. But

1402
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,639
Speaker 1: they've never had a number one draft pick. Now, several

1403
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 1: people have replied to that and said, you're wrong, it's

1404
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 1: four tjs. Well, it is true that every player in

1405
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: NBA history named TJ has been a pacer at some point.

1406
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: TJ McConnell, TJ Ford, TJ Leaf, and TJ Warren, TJ.

1407
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 1: Leaf and TJ Warren, TJ. Leaf, they drafted out of

1408
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: UCLA TJ. Warren. They they traded for TJ. Warren, and

1409
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: they traded for TJ. Ford. They signed TJ McConnell as

1410
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 1: a free agent out of Philly so they've only traded

1411
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 1: for two of them. But Eddie, you chimed into the

1412
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 1: fund during the break. You don't know an admitted you

1413
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:06,120
Speaker 1: don't want the kids to know it, but you did. Right.

1414
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've traded a George, and they've traded for a Hill,

1415
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,439
Speaker 3: and they've traded. Did they trade George Hill is the question?

1416
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 3: I can't remember that part now.

1417
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: They never did they trade for a Hill? They lost

1418
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 1: a Hill? Okay, they have traded Paul George. They have

1419
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: traded and traded for a George. They have drafted a

1420
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: Hill and then lost a Hill. Right, but you could

1421
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 1: go on and on. Right, at one point, did they

1422
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,560
Speaker 1: trade for a CJ and then later trade out of

1423
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 1: CJ of a different name, different guy? Didn't they trade

1424
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 1: for Jordan Hill? Ah, Jordan Hill? I forgot about Jordan Hill.

1425
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: I think they signed him as a free agent. They

1426
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 1: You might be right, which in that case would mean

1427
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 1: at some point they have probably traded as a matter

1428
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 1: of fact, I know they have. Okay, look this up.

1429
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: Did they trade for Jordan Hill? Because if they have,

1430
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: that would mean that over the course of time they

1431
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:19,799
Speaker 1: have traded for a Michael and a Jordan.

1432
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 3: Right, would you see a part of the injured Bynham trade.

1433
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,560
Speaker 3: Got it Chris Copeland.

1434
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: See here you go. Chris Copeland was one that I

1435
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: remember when they got Chris Copeland. He signed with the

1436
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 1: Pacers in twenty sixteen. Uh you know, Jordan Hill was

1437
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 1: one that was originally drafted by Donnie and then Donnie

1438
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 1: came here and brought him and had influence on him

1439
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 1: coming here. But when Chris Copeland was acquired by the Pacers,

1440
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: I remember at the time saying there's going to be

1441
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 1: a game this year that the Pacers are going to

1442
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 1: win because of Chris Copeland. He's going to come off

1443
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 1: the bench, he's going to hit big shots, he's going

1444
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: to be a big play. And finally, like in April,

1445
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 1: it happened and it was like no ster Damas people

1446
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: were like, oh my gosh, it finally happened. Scott Agnes

1447
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:06,800
Speaker 1: just text me.

1448
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 3: They traded for George Hill from San Antonio later Milwaukee

1449
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 3: and then traded him to Utah.

1450
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well I knew they traded for him because they

1451
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 1: traded Kawhi Leonard. Yeah, or the draft right to Kawhi Leonard. Yes, Okay, Eddie,

1452
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 1: can you please run down for me what you would

1453
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 1: estimate to be the five biggest trades that took place

1454
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: yesterday or in this deadline period.

1455
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 3: I would put the Zubats trade in there.

1456
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 1: Do you find it odd that Scott is listening to

1457
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 1: this program? No?

1458
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 2: I do not.

1459
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's running Fieldhouse Files. He's tied in

1460
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 1: with what's going on with the fever and the Pacers

1461
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: and everything else that's going on. I mean, the guy's

1462
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: got his ear to the ground. He's got the Taylor

1463
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 1: Swift stuff to listen to, He's got sweaters to press,

1464
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: and yet he and I appreciate that he has time

1465
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 1: to listen to this.

1466
01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 3: Another trade I think that's in that top five would

1467
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 3: be Ayo Dosunmu going from Chicago to Minnesota.

1468
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 1: Do you think the knob on his radio is broken?

1469
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 3: The Warriors getting Christaps Porzingis, that's three.

1470
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:11,920
Speaker 1: Porzingis is a fascinating tale.

1471
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 3: Because of the Cavaliers.

1472
01:17:13,880 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: Okay, name, let's go over a couple of these names.

1473
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis, Porzingis, James Harden, any other big veterans that

1474
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: that jump out at you.

1475
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 3: Vucevic going from Okay, the Bulls to the Celtics.

1476
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 1: The reason I bring it up, they're an interesting thing

1477
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:44,240
Speaker 1: happens with players where eventually you cross into this matrix

1478
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: where you become just a It's like Carrol and fantasy football,

1479
01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 1: and that's that's unfair because usually women win the fantasy

1480
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: fo the league. You always get that guy and Fantasy

1481
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 1: football in your fantasy football draft that gets super excited

1482
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: because he drafted a running back that had fifteen hundred

1483
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,719
Speaker 1: yards six years ago and is now with the Jets,

1484
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: and he's like, no, this guy's gonna be great, I'm

1485
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 1: telling you, and you're like, dude, way past his prime.

1486
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: But the guy had been paying attention, so he just

1487
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 1: knows the name. And there are always NBA players that

1488
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: fall into that category where they get paid a huge

1489
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:29,240
Speaker 1: salary and they get this big ticket contract and then

1490
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, eventually the team that gives them

1491
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 1: that contract wants out from that contract, and then they

1492
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: become contract. You're training for the contract to get you

1493
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:44,719
Speaker 1: for cap space and to let it expire and whatever else,

1494
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 1: so that becomes the contract and the money becomes more

1495
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:53,160
Speaker 1: intriguing and more sexy than the player. And then the

1496
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,960
Speaker 1: player goes somewhere and gets a buy out and whatever else,

1497
01:18:56,040 --> 01:18:58,639
Speaker 1: and like shows that they still have some juice left

1498
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,760
Speaker 1: in the tank, and some other team comes along and

1499
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: is like, that's going to be our final piece, but

1500
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 1: you realize at that point this guy's cooked. Porzingis feels

1501
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 1: a little like that. Every third game he goes out there,

1502
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,120
Speaker 1: he's unbelievable, and then the other two it's like hangmail

1503
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 1: out for forty minutes. I've always felt that way about Harden. Okay,

1504
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: and you know, Harden, are there any teams or players

1505
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 1: that Harden has a lot of talent? But are there

1506
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 1: any teams or players that he has made better? The

1507
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: thing about this trade for the Pacers, when you talk

1508
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 1: about that and you analyze it in that term, there's

1509
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 1: a major, major, major bonus to this trade that you

1510
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 1: have to look further at beyond the surface and why

1511
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: I think this was in fact resounding one way or

1512
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: the other on whether this is a good deal or

1513
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:58,560
Speaker 1: not for Indiana. I'll tell you next. This is fabulous.

1514
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 1: This is a great song about the way ri EM

1515
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: was awesome. I mean, RIM was awesome and then they

1516
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,799
Speaker 1: got a little bit like commercialized. But the early Ram,

1517
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,839
Speaker 1: the Dave Revsen era fan of r EM, the reckoning

1518
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:23,600
Speaker 1: that that era eponymous Green awesome. Rim Hey, Jake, I

1519
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 1: flew home from China once with James Harden. He was

1520
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: sitting right next to me. Now, I don't know if

1521
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 1: I can say this last word, so I'll just I'll

1522
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 1: revise total jerk. Okay, not overly. So I don't know

1523
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 1: James Harden. He just comes off very aloof, very aloof

1524
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: the Pacers deal yesterday. And I'll get more into this,

1525
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: probably in a couple of minutes, and we're gonna go

1526
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: out to La by the way and talk to somebody

1527
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: who covers the Clippers about what kind of player the

1528
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 1: Pacers are getting. But when you look at this acquisition,

1529
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: there are a number of things that go into it.

1530
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 1: First being and you heard Rick Carlisle yesterday with JMB saying,

1531
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 1: you know, they knew they needed a center period. And

1532
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 1: two things that really jumped out at me. The more

1533
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:21,560
Speaker 1: that I thought about this and talked to people, including

1534
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 1: some over there, I keep going back to what I

1535
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 1: was told. Fortune favors the bold, And I'm gonna keep

1536
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: saying that line A because I like it, but B

1537
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:40,960
Speaker 1: because I think it perfectly describes and summarizes the PACER's

1538
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:48,879
Speaker 1: thought process. Fortune favors the bold and the reason why

1539
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 1: that perfectly seems to summarize their thought process is because

1540
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 1: the Pacers are in this position because they made a

1541
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 1: move that was bold and getting Tyrese Haliburton, and they

1542
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: have made moves in the past where the fortune didn't

1543
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 1: favor them even though they were bold. And then they

1544
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:14,680
Speaker 1: kind of stood pat with Sabonis and Turner and you know,

1545
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 1: sitting there and for a while, the Pacers had to

1546
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: be reactionary. They were reactionary to Oladipo wanting out, they

1547
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:30,160
Speaker 1: were reactionary to Paul George wanting out, and in those

1548
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 1: situations and circumstances sometimes they were lack of reactionary towards

1549
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: making it work. The Sabonis Turner thing, for example, and

1550
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:38,799
Speaker 1: they said, you know what, we got to get bold,

1551
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 1: we got to push in, and we got to be

1552
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: aggressive and go in the direction that is away from

1553
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 1: what's safe and comfortable. And that's how you ended up

1554
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:52,000
Speaker 1: with Halliburton, and that's how you got this roster. And

1555
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: now they knew, okay, the center position is the one

1556
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,120
Speaker 1: that if you are going to place one of the

1557
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 1: five players in the NBA on the floor, especially when

1558
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,439
Speaker 1: you're playing the kind of offense the pacers are playing.

1559
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:11,000
Speaker 1: The center position is the one that you need. Someone

1560
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: that already knows angles, that already knows movements, that already

1561
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: knows low block positioning. And that comes with playing in

1562
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: the NBA. And I don't think that you can just

1563
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: take a player out of college at a high draft

1564
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: pick and put them in there and get immediate result.

1565
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 1: It takes. The center position in the NBA is a

1566
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 1: crockpot meal. A lot of the others are a microwave meal,

1567
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 1: but a crock pot takes a lot longer in a summer.

1568
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:46,559
Speaker 1: And that's the center position. What are we doing here?

1569
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: But where'd that come from? What's going on? Why?

1570
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 2: Oh?

1571
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 1: It makes perfect sense. What I just said makes perfect sense.

1572
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,719
Speaker 1: A lot of doesn't mean it was a good analogy.

1573
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's a perfect analogy. And people are saying

1574
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 1: to themselves, I'm glad Jake said that. That makes perfect sense.

1575
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: Now I get it. The center position is a crockpot meal.

1576
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 1: It takes longer. You got to wait for like a

1577
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 1: day and a half. The rest of it it's ready

1578
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: to eat, right, And so they knew that. But the

1579
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 1: most important thing is this, that is a very friendly contract.

1580
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 1: They got it's a very friendly contract. Yes, and that

1581
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 1: contract puts them now in a two year window, which

1582
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:31,240
Speaker 1: aligns three year really, which aligns with Siakam it all

1583
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,719
Speaker 1: even though Halliburton is the straw mixing the pacers drink,

1584
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: how or Siakam is the contract mixing the pacers drink,

1585
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 1: because you've got to do it all within the window

1586
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 1: of when Siakam is there. And the Pacers knew we

1587
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:54,560
Speaker 1: need to be bold. You knew who was bold Indiana.

1588
01:24:56,000 --> 01:25:01,679
Speaker 1: Indiana was stuck beyond the that suck. They were stuck

1589
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 1: in the vat of absolute abysmal irrelevance in college football.

1590
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: And Indiana was bold. They went out and they got

1591
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 1: a coach from a one double A school who had

1592
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 1: some pizaz about him, and they're the national champions. The

1593
01:25:22,240 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 1: Pacers were bold. They went out and they got Tyrese

1594
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: Halliburton and they were a half away from winning the

1595
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: NBA title. And the Colts, for example, are not. They

1596
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 1: play it safe, They run it back because it's the

1597
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,719
Speaker 1: safe thing to do. There's no bold. What's the last

1598
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: bold move the Colts made? I mean, I guess trading

1599
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 1: for Sauce Gardner. So I guess maybe I'll give him

1600
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 1: a little bit of credit there, even though having Anthony Richards,

1601
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 1: even though I didn't like the sauce gardener trade, and

1602
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 1: I think I was the one person that was like, yeah,

1603
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sold on this at all. You're giving up

1604
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 1: two first rounders for a corner. Okay, better hope it works.

1605
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could say that was bold.

1606
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 1: I would say, actually, it was just ill advised. But

1607
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 1: I'll give them credit. They at least were aggressive. But

1608
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,519
Speaker 1: in the Pacers situation, now they had to do the bold.

1609
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 1: They had to do what it took to go out

1610
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 1: and get a center, and so they did it, and

1611
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 1: they got a guy that, now here's the thing, he

1612
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: does not play because in a perfect world, you wanted

1613
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,759
Speaker 1: somebody that immediately can come in and play the Miles

1614
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 1: Turner role, so that offensively you have a cohesion that

1615
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 1: is the same as what you just saw. And when

1616
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 1: you get topping back and Nie Smith and Nim Hard

1617
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: and everybody else, you just plug and play and it's

1618
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 1: like boom, right back to Oklahoma City all over again.

1619
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 1: This is going to be a little different. Very good

1620
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: pick and roll, I think, very good above the rim,

1621
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 1: but a solid defensive rebounder, which is an area that

1622
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 1: has plugged the Pacers, A solid interior defender, which if

1623
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 1: you look the finals, was an area that plugged the Pacers.

1624
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:10,520
Speaker 1: Trying to reduce second chance opportunities for the opposition. Now offensively,

1625
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: are you gonna have to tweak some things? I don't know,

1626
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: And we'll find out when we go out to La

1627
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 1: in a little bit. How good a high post passer

1628
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 1: and facilitator he is, but he's not an outside shooter.

1629
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: Does he take up space that's the operating area for

1630
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: Siakam that was not clogged because Turner was coming up

1631
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:32,600
Speaker 1: to the high post. Perhaps there are going to be

1632
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 1: adjustments that need to be made, And maybe you spend

1633
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: the last third of this season doing nothing but allowing

1634
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 1: Zubats and Siakam to figure out their shared space on

1635
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 1: the block while Ethan Thompson and Micah Potter and Quentin

1636
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:56,719
Speaker 1: Jackson and Taylon Peter are running around on the wings.

1637
01:27:57,560 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what you do now for the rest of

1638
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 1: the year. But they're going to want to try to

1639
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 1: get and I know this, I'm telling you right now.

1640
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:11,559
Speaker 1: The Pacers absolutely they did not protect those front four

1641
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 1: picks just in case they protected those front four picks.

1642
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 1: Because this trade already I think is a home run.

1643
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 1: I do, but it would be a grand slam. If

1644
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 1: you end up with one of those four picks, then

1645
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 1: it's a grand slam. And obviously this is assuming everybody

1646
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: stays healthy and etc. And the reason it's a home

1647
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 1: run already and would be a grand slam is because

1648
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 1: you got a very solid, established, ready to plug in center,

1649
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:50,640
Speaker 1: and you got it on a contract that financially is

1650
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 1: friendly and time wise, is cohesive with where they are

1651
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 1: and what their window is. I loved it. I absolutely

1652
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 1: loved it. We need to get more into what's gonna

1653
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 1: happen on Sunday, and we're gonna go out to La

1654
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 1: in fifteen minutes. And of course it is a Franciscan health,

1655
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,800
Speaker 1: good for the heart, feel good Friday, great story for

1656
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: you from the south side, bottom of the hour. You know,

1657
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:19,640
Speaker 1: this song just kind of makes me want to get

1658
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,639
Speaker 1: up and dance. What kind of dance moves? Let's see

1659
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 1: it see Okay, you're ready, Okay, rerack the song in

1660
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 1: the beginning come on now here. Well, but it's it's

1661
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 1: the part when he and this I'm a very good dancer.

1662
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of I'm a lot of compliments

1663
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 1: over the years, kids in particular. Love mind. Let me

1664
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 1: know when you're ready, go ahead, okay, if you could. Okay,

1665
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: So you're just kind of standing, you know, like yeah,

1666
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 1: just kind of standing around, right, and then and then

1667
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:48,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a it's like a and then

1668
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: you kind of do like a like not not totally

1669
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 1: the white guy over by dance, but just kind of

1670
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 1: like a back and forth. I mean, you can't see it,

1671
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 1: people on the radio can't see it. But I mean

1672
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm grooving on it, right, I mean, I'm mean I'm

1673
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 1: whacky on the night quill anyway, Right, what do you

1674
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 1: think I could do this too? You know? I mean,

1675
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: like there's still some move in here. I know that surprises.

1676
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 3: I'm clipping that and I will be putting it.

1677
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 1: On Twitter with it. What about simply this? Okay, we're

1678
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 1: getting a little, uh, a little risk. Yeah, what we're

1679
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 1: into now is the ranging hands much hyler. We may

1680
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 1: see your belly button. Yeah, it's a little bit larger

1681
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:29,680
Speaker 1: to the mid nineties, the mid nineties wedding crasher than

1682
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: I was right when I got news for you, How

1683
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:38,680
Speaker 1: did Shannon Land you with those days more like how

1684
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: did I land that?

1685
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 3: Right?

1686
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 1: That's probably a better question with that. Yeah, we'd be

1687
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 1: honest here. You know, all right, super Bowl Sunday is

1688
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 1: upon us, not necessarily, but I mean it's the weekend

1689
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:54,640
Speaker 1: leading into it, and you know the super Bowl itself

1690
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 1: for a long time there. I mean, this is an

1691
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 1: American holiday, right, I mean, and there where people like, oh,

1692
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 1: we got everybody, we should just make it a holiday

1693
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,719
Speaker 1: Monday off after the super Bowl because the whole country's

1694
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:09,639
Speaker 1: watching and invested. So Eddie that said, your super Bowl

1695
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: plans are what I think we are.

1696
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 3: Olivia and I the Lady are going over to our

1697
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:17,719
Speaker 3: friend's house. We're gonna have a good time with about

1698
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:19,639
Speaker 3: I think it's like seventy to nine people just gonna

1699
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 3: have a good time. I have to work the Pacers game, though.

1700
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 3: I'm hoping Eddie White doesn't be Eddie White and you know,

1701
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:30,559
Speaker 3: talk into a microphone too long, because sometimes when Eddie

1702
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 3: gets the microphone fromt he just can't stop. So I'm

1703
01:31:33,720 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 3: just helping that Eddie White can be quick on the

1704
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 3: world's greatest postgame show. Get out of here, Get to

1705
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 3: my buddy's house. Have a good time. What about you.

1706
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: Well, no, here's the thing. Eddie will have to get

1707
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 1: out early on the postgame show because he's got to

1708
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: go home and send pictures of all of his Super

1709
01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 1: Bowl merch.

1710
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 3: Well here's the thing, Jake, I don't know how many

1711
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 3: people know this. When it's a road game, Eddie White

1712
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 3: doesn't come in studio with me. He has a He's

1713
01:31:57,400 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 3: got a nice little set up at his house. Really yeah,

1714
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:03,400
Speaker 3: he does the show from Casa de White.

1715
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:08,439
Speaker 1: Oh, better known as Whitecastle, all right, which I didn't

1716
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 1: want to go there. I love me some some sliders.

1717
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: I don't really have any plans as of right now.

1718
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 1: I will tell you this though. My one bold prediction

1719
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 1: I always make. They will call tails, it will be heads,

1720
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:25,599
Speaker 1: and the team that then gets to pick will defer.

1721
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 1: That is my one big thing for you.

1722
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 3: Let me pull up a sports book, Jake, because you

1723
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 3: know you can bet on the coin toss.

1724
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 1: It's probably fifty to fifty odds, right, I would hope, right.

1725
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 1: Don't They say that tails never fails because the weight

1726
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 1: of the head side that the side that has that

1727
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 1: whatever the head is on is always a bigger embossed thing,

1728
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 1: And so therefore it lands.

1729
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 3: Well, there's also another phrasing for never bet on your head.

1730
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 3: Excuse me if you've never heard that.

1731
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 1: Okay, what would if? I? Can you get like, all,

1732
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 1: can you go on all three of those?

1733
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 3: What?

1734
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,679
Speaker 1: What is going to be called? What is actually going

1735
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 1: to land? And whether or not the team defers?

1736
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:10,680
Speaker 3: Well, I can give you the coin toss. Let me

1737
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:12,599
Speaker 3: I got a further look and see if there's one

1738
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 3: specifically out there for coin toss result and game result.

1739
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:19,640
Speaker 1: These are my two predictions. Tails will be called it

1740
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 1: will land heads winning team defers, and then the other

1741
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 1: one is a defensive player most valuable play.

1742
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 3: So if you want to go that route, Jake, you

1743
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 3: can do a little same game in parlay action. You

1744
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 3: can bet whichever result you think it'll be heads or tails,

1745
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 3: with whoever you think will win.

1746
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 1: It's like if you.

1747
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 3: Wanted to say, oh, the coin toss result, there'll be

1748
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 3: heads and I think the Patriots will win. You can

1749
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 3: do that on this specific sportsbook I'm looking at. If

1750
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:47,640
Speaker 3: you want to bet on tails and you think the Seahawks.

1751
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:53,760
Speaker 1: Will win, you can also do that. Okay, who do

1752
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 1: you think will win the game? I think it's Seattle

1753
01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with Kevin on this though. Whenever it's

1754
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:02,640
Speaker 1: thought to be like so one sided, there's just like

1755
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:05,320
Speaker 1: a plucky thing about the other one that just hangs around.

1756
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:09,200
Speaker 1: I think about the Patriots last night when Adam Vanenti

1757
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 1: was named into the Hall of Fame, Kurt Warner and

1758
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:16,719
Speaker 1: introducing him said, you know, he had Super Bowl winning kicks,

1759
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: including one that came at my expense because it was

1760
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,559
Speaker 1: against the Rams. That team just hung around and hung

1761
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: around and hung around and found a way to win.

1762
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 1: And that was when they were the plucky, upstart, underdog Patriots.

1763
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 1: And it was only fitting because it was after nine

1764
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:31,600
Speaker 1: to eleven and Patriots and all that. I mean, it

1765
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 1: was a great thing. It was a great story Venitaria

1766
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 1: last night getting into the Hall of Fame, Reggie Wayne

1767
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,200
Speaker 1: did not hear his name called. You heard us talking

1768
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 1: about that with Kevin earlier. The NFL Awards show was

1769
01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 1: interesting in particular. You would think you would think and

1770
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 1: assume that if you were giving out awards for things,

1771
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:56,640
Speaker 1: for example, like Coach of the Year Mike Verbal, that

1772
01:34:56,760 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 1: you would get a presenter, well.

1773
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 4: Is busy preparing for this super.

1774
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 1: How do you not how do you not I don't

1775
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 1: blame her for not knowing the pronunciation, per se. I mean,

1776
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:12,599
Speaker 1: I am the king of that. I get hung up

1777
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 1: on all kinds of names. But how do you not

1778
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 1: tell the presenter ahead of time or put it out

1779
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 1: there phonetically for them to read.

1780
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 3: I'd like to do with Roger Goodell for the draft

1781
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 3: or whomever is making the pick. They do that on

1782
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 3: those cards. Yeah, how do you not put that on

1783
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 3: the windows tablet? How did you say it again?

1784
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 1: Tablet? Oh?

1785
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:37,760
Speaker 3: Mike verbal? Would you like to hear it?

1786
01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 7: Uh?

1787
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 1: Like when we had to take the SATs and my

1788
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 1: buddy Mike Byron and I asked him, did you do

1789
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:46,519
Speaker 1: better on the math or the verbal? And of course

1790
01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:48,240
Speaker 1: the answer Mike verbal.

1791
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 4: Okay, Mike verbal is busy preparing for this Super Bowl?

1792
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, did you hear the other one

1793
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:00,960
Speaker 1: last night? No? Jackson Smith jigba.

1794
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 5: J SN.

1795
01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 1: I mean, admittedly, it is a is an odd name

1796
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 1: because of the because you don't know if the.

1797
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 3: Barry Sandors was up there with Truski, and Barry was like,

1798
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 3: what are we doing here?

1799
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:27,240
Speaker 1: Kind of like me with you all the time. You

1800
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 1: like that crock pot anology, though, didn't.

1801
01:36:29,200 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 3: The crockpile was bad. The whole QR thing is not good.

1802
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:35,719
Speaker 1: Eddie. Thank you for mentioning that I I aired earlier.

1803
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:37,760
Speaker 1: I should have mentioned this. Uh when I did my

1804
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:41,120
Speaker 1: post yesterday about all of the players and the tie

1805
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:44,839
Speaker 1: ins for pacers trades over the years, someone responded with simply,

1806
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:48,559
Speaker 1: and this is this is arguably the greatest response that

1807
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 1: anybody has sent to me. I could not tell you

1808
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 1: how pleased I was to get this reply. Let me

1809
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 1: see if you can even see this. This is the

1810
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:01,839
Speaker 1: response that was sent to me. Can you see my phone? No?

1811
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 1: I can't, Sure you can't. I can't. Somebody sent me

1812
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 1: a gift, Jeff?

1813
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 3: What is that an optical illusion? Am I? It's hallucinating.

1814
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 1: That's a QR code.

1815
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 3: I didn't.

1816
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 1: I didn't take any in the watermelon dummies because when

1817
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 1: someone when you're talking to somebody like for example, right

1818
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:23,559
Speaker 1: then crisis could have been avoided if they just went

1819
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 1: up there in that award and spoke in QR spoken

1820
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 1: code JSN. Everyone knows what you're talking about. Mom, Why

1821
01:37:30,600 --> 01:37:32,759
Speaker 1: is he saying JSN? Well, they're speaking in QR.

1822
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,519
Speaker 3: I do think you are, Jake, if you're looking for

1823
01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:38,759
Speaker 3: kind of like a off the wall non quarterback that's

1824
01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:44,040
Speaker 3: that could win the MVP. Seattle has had issues covering

1825
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:47,519
Speaker 3: tight ends this year, like anyone that's been like an

1826
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 3: average or better has had a good game against them.

1827
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 3: Nick Im and Warry got banged up earlier this week.

1828
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:54,640
Speaker 3: He's their safety. They line up over the middle of

1829
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:56,400
Speaker 3: the field, and he gets a lot of the tight

1830
01:37:56,520 --> 01:38:00,000
Speaker 3: end matchups. Like Hunter, Henry could be a sneaky super

1831
01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:00,920
Speaker 3: MVB play.

1832
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 1: What's he running at? Odds wise? I should have looked

1833
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 1: at it. I always get a kick out of this.

1834
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 1: I always just put like two bucks on ten different

1835
01:38:10,439 --> 01:38:13,759
Speaker 1: like random defensive players that all pay like two hundred

1836
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 1: to one. You know what I mean? Why not spend

1837
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 1: spend sixteen bucks and pick eight players twenty bucks? Pick

1838
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 1: ten players at two bucks each, probably blowing your twenty bucks.

1839
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:29,560
Speaker 1: But what are the odds there? I gotta find it.

1840
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 1: He's way down there. I just noticed Eddie's wearing a

1841
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 1: Seattle shirt today. Yeah, thank you. By the way, are

1842
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:43,360
Speaker 1: you hearing a weird noise right here? Yeah? He is

1843
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 1: plus ten thousand, oh plus ten thousand yes, so, and

1844
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm again I was more like Mike verbal than math.

1845
01:38:52,680 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 3: Rat Shaheed by the way, plus forty five hundred.

1846
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:57,439
Speaker 1: If you put two bucks on him, then what does

1847
01:38:57,439 --> 01:38:58,000
Speaker 1: that pay.

1848
01:38:57,800 --> 01:38:59,839
Speaker 3: Out on Shaheed?

1849
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 1: Are you talking about her? At plus ten thousand, you

1850
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 1: win two hundred dollars? Yeah, I mean, come on, why not? Right?

1851
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:09,960
Speaker 1: Why not? It's like buying a scratch off lottery ticket.

1852
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 1: I thought about this before we go out to La

1853
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 1: Real quick. Eddie, here's my question of the day for

1854
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:16,559
Speaker 1: you that has nothing to do with the Super Bowl.

1855
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:21,720
Speaker 1: North the pacers trade was driving down College and at

1856
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:24,719
Speaker 1: thirty eighth in College. On the east side of the road,

1857
01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:28,680
Speaker 1: northeast corner of thirty eighth in College, there is a

1858
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:31,320
Speaker 1: store there. I'm not even sure what. I think. They

1859
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 1: sell games of some sort, but it's pretty cool. The

1860
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:41,760
Speaker 1: the outer painting of the of the store, the outer

1861
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 1: facade of the store is nothing but murals of different

1862
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 1: characters over the years, like bugs body or you know,

1863
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 1: Woody from Toy Story, whatever else. The very far eastern

1864
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:55,800
Speaker 1: end of the building is the regiment and it's a

1865
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 1: very good drawing of it, two stories high or whatever.

1866
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:04,519
Speaker 1: It's the Regie Miller Ok caricature. What are the Eddie?

1867
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:13,200
Speaker 1: What are the three most famous images in Indianapolis sports

1868
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 1: history or Indiana sports history. I don't mean moments. I mean,

1869
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 1: obviously the Colts winning the Super Bowl would be one

1870
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:25,559
Speaker 1: of the moments. Maybe the image of Peyton lifting the

1871
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 1: Lombardi Trophy. That's about the only image that comes to

1872
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 1: mind from that Super Bowl, you know, in the rain,

1873
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:33,759
Speaker 1: with Dungee next to him, and he lifts the Lombardi

1874
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:38,799
Speaker 1: up wearing the hat. Maybe that's one anything. The Reggie

1875
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 1: choke sign is the number one when it comes to

1876
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 1: the Pacers, right Haliburton doing it back would maybe be second.

1877
01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:51,200
Speaker 1: Or Halliburton with the the large you know under the

1878
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:55,400
Speaker 1: nether region. I'm just confused right now. Sorry, bye.

1879
01:40:55,520 --> 01:41:00,760
Speaker 3: The Olympic opening ceremony right now, they have these like

1880
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 3: big tubular things that look like a can of toothpaste. Okay,

1881
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:09,120
Speaker 3: and they're dropping down in colors of blue, red, and yellow.

1882
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:12,000
Speaker 1: Okay.

1883
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 3: It's very it's very odd.

1884
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:17,439
Speaker 1: Well, what what is that Spain? I mean, I know

1885
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 1: it's in Italy, but it's.

1886
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:20,559
Speaker 3: I guess it would help if I had the audio.

1887
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:22,760
Speaker 1: Is it he's looking on? Is it the Spanish team

1888
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:25,680
Speaker 1: or the Venezuelan team that's doing that?

1889
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 3: Without audio I can tell, but yes, the Reggie Miller

1890
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 3: choke sign.

1891
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:32,840
Speaker 1: What what are the others that come to mind to you?

1892
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:38,160
Speaker 1: If you were to paint a mural of famous like

1893
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:41,600
Speaker 1: single moment images.

1894
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 3: What about Tyresee?

1895
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:47,600
Speaker 1: That's what I said, the big, the big yes, that

1896
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 1: would be up there.

1897
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 3: Maybe Tyresee's version of the choke sign.

1898
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:57,120
Speaker 1: I think the original Reggie choke sign though, is I mean,

1899
01:41:57,120 --> 01:42:01,920
Speaker 1: that's the one from in that. The only other two

1900
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:04,639
Speaker 1: that really get I mean, Peyton lifting the Lombardi would

1901
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:10,599
Speaker 1: be one, right, Reggie celebrating the touchdown. Yeah, that's not bad.

1902
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 1: That's not bad. Doing the roll of the ice, that's

1903
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:16,519
Speaker 1: not bad. The only other two that really jumped out

1904
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 1: at me are and in an Indie sports lore one

1905
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 1: is Bob Knight throwing the chair. I mean, you could say,

1906
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:31,600
Speaker 1: you know other you know, there have been great moments

1907
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:35,840
Speaker 1: for Purdue in Indiana, and you know Hayward launching that

1908
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:40,719
Speaker 1: shot maybe is up there. But to me, the only

1909
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 1: the two that came to mind, Night throwing the chair

1910
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 1: was one, and then the other one was And maybe

1911
01:42:46,200 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 1: people are gonna say that this is my Indy five

1912
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:52,520
Speaker 1: hundred bias, but I do feel like the Danny Sullivan

1913
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 1: with the smoke all around, straightening his car spin to win,

1914
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 1: and they got the most iconic image in a in

1915
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 1: a ton of eighty five hundred images, that's as iconic

1916
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:08,960
Speaker 1: as any of them. Tamara Zari is with clutch points

1917
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:12,200
Speaker 1: out in Los Angeles. He covers the Los Angeles Clippers,

1918
01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 1: and of course yesterday it takes two to tango the

1919
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:18,120
Speaker 1: Clippers the other on the side of a pacers trade

1920
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 1: at the trade deadline, and Tamara joins us now on

1921
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 1: the Java House Peel and poor guest line. Tamaya, first off,

1922
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 1: I'm going to guess in Los Angeles right now? Seventy two, sonny,

1923
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 1: and a slight breeze, am I right?

1924
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:35,360
Speaker 10: Yes, about right, it's about seventy five right now, pretty warm,

1925
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 10: right now, it's got a little cooler, a lot of Yeah,

1926
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 10: it's been you guess correctly.

1927
01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 1: Yes, pretty warm and seventy five. Hey, Tamara, let me listen.

1928
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you some sympathy in the mail, okay

1929
01:43:45,320 --> 01:43:48,519
Speaker 1: for that too warm of seventy five. Here we're looking

1930
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:51,839
Speaker 1: at nine feet of snow here in Indiana. We haven't seen, Tamara.

1931
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something we haven't seen. Do you

1932
01:43:54,240 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 1: remember that video that came out for the Clippers with

1933
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:00,600
Speaker 1: what's the guy that owns the Clippers? And there was

1934
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 1: the video of him getting like crazy behind the basket

1935
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:07,679
Speaker 1: on the sidelines. Yeah. Yeah, the last time that Steve Balmer,

1936
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 1: when that Steve Bomber video came out, that became a

1937
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 1: meme for a while there. That was actually the last

1938
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 1: time we saw Son in Indiana. So that if that

1939
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:15,599
Speaker 1: gives you any indication, right.

1940
01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:17,800
Speaker 10: Wow, So you know what I will make do with

1941
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 10: our weather here. It's really difficult, but I'll make it do.

1942
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 1: I problem. All right, fair enough, let's get to this.

1943
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 1: You know, first I would like to know what it

1944
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:29,760
Speaker 1: was you think about Benedicmatheren that intrigue the Clippers. But

1945
01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 1: before we do that, let's get what Indiana is getting

1946
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 1: in terms of a Viacha zoobots and what sort of

1947
01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 1: a player the Pacers are getting. If you are familiar

1948
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 1: with Indiana, you know they do like to play when

1949
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 1: everybody is there, a faster tempo, upstart up pace style.

1950
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:49,400
Speaker 1: Can he play that way?

1951
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1952
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:54,160
Speaker 7: Absolutely? I mean I followed the Pacers pretty closely last year.

1953
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 10: I took the NBA Finals, so I was able to

1954
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 10: see them up close and watching how they wanted to

1955
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:00,679
Speaker 10: play basketball. I mean, I think who I was fitting

1956
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 10: pretty well with what they want to do. I think

1957
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 10: ever since losing Mobs Turner, they kind of missed that

1958
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:09,479
Speaker 10: defensive anchor, that defensive communicator inside, and so Zoo is

1959
01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 10: a guy who I think fits that bill pretty pretty seamlessly.

1960
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 7: He's not a guy.

1961
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 10: Who needs the ball necessarily, but he's getting pick and

1962
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 10: roll offensively. He's good with the left handed, right hand, finishes,

1963
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:19,720
Speaker 10: solid rebounder.

1964
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:20,880
Speaker 7: I don't know if you remember a couple of.

1965
01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 10: Years ago he did have I believe it was a

1966
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:25,559
Speaker 10: twenty nine point thirty rebound game against the Indiana Pacers

1967
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:26,480
Speaker 10: at the before.

1968
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 7: I fouled out. So he's a guy who's been very talented.

1969
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:33,679
Speaker 10: You know, clearly became almost an All Star last year.

1970
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 7: And so I think, you know, hilten h pretty well

1971
01:45:36,360 --> 01:45:36,719
Speaker 7: with the Pacers.

1972
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:38,880
Speaker 10: They're getting a really good player there and the guy

1973
01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:41,479
Speaker 10: who I think once ty Rechi's dog will help them

1974
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 10: seriously contend for an NBA championship.

1975
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 1: Okay, now, and I like hearing that. People here are

1976
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 1: going to like hearing that. I appreciate it till Marrek,

1977
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:50,799
Speaker 1: you look at and if you saw the way Indiana

1978
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:53,800
Speaker 1: played in the finals. What you saw was this a

1979
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 1: large part of the offensive scheme they like to run

1980
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 1: with Halliburton did feature Turner coming up to the top

1981
01:46:02,080 --> 01:46:06,000
Speaker 1: on the high post and starting and facilitating kind of

1982
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 1: that weave that they run by being the first option

1983
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:12,640
Speaker 1: and then you know sending the ball out. Is that

1984
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 1: the kind of thing Zubots could do. I believe so.

1985
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 10: But look, the one thing I will say is Miles

1986
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:21,880
Speaker 10: Stern had a pretty underwhelming NBA Finals offensively, if I

1987
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:23,680
Speaker 10: remember correctly, he was not that great, and I think

1988
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:27,360
Speaker 10: correct I think Zoo would be much better, much stronger

1989
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:30,920
Speaker 10: and physical force against a team like dil Gloma Students

1990
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 10: Under or other teams in the Eastern Conference. I think

1991
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:34,960
Speaker 10: that's where Zoom maybe has a bit more of an

1992
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:37,040
Speaker 10: advancee where he's not really scared to get physical, scared

1993
01:46:37,080 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 10: to try and dunk on someone or or go through contact.

1994
01:46:39,479 --> 01:46:42,560
Speaker 10: And he's a guy who gets in the preto like

1995
01:46:42,760 --> 01:46:45,400
Speaker 10: pretty often gets it quite a bit. If you look

1996
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:46,760
Speaker 10: at him, he's got a lot of scratches on his

1997
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 10: arms and all that, so he's not afraid of contact.

1998
01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:53,200
Speaker 10: So I think he's capable of being used in multiple ways,

1999
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:56,160
Speaker 10: but definitely when you acquire someone like him and bring

2000
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 10: back Tyreek Saliburt and I think you're looking at a

2001
01:46:58,479 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 10: period of transition and and it's adapting to what each

2002
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 10: you know, player brings. Zew's guy used to playing with

2003
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:06,559
Speaker 10: James Harden, was playing the best basketball of his career

2004
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:08,759
Speaker 10: with James Harden. And so now you're looking at different

2005
01:47:09,280 --> 01:47:10,800
Speaker 10: you know, point guard there with andrew An, Mr.

2006
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:11,599
Speaker 7: TJ. McConnell.

2007
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 10: And then when Tyree gets back, you're gonna have a

2008
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 10: guy who passed out Siaka, who obviously is a very

2009
01:47:15,880 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 10: big focal point for them, has been.

2010
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:18,840
Speaker 7: Obviously all started this year.

2011
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 10: So I think Zoo is one of those guys who

2012
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:22,680
Speaker 10: kind of fits in seamless seas. Like I said, he

2013
01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 10: doesn't really need the ball all that much, but he's

2014
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 10: capable of giving you sixteen and twelve very very easily, you.

2015
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:30,640
Speaker 7: Know, just playing thirty minutes to night.

2016
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:32,799
Speaker 10: I think it's capable of giving you that and fitting

2017
01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:35,080
Speaker 10: in everywhere you need him. So I'm actually, you know,

2018
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 10: sad to see him go because he was the guy

2019
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 10: who I've covered here for the last eight years, but

2020
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:41,240
Speaker 10: should be a phenomenal fit with the Pacers, with a

2021
01:47:41,320 --> 01:47:41,559
Speaker 10: chance to.

2022
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:42,320
Speaker 7: Win a championship.

2023
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:44,879
Speaker 1: Tamara Azari is my guest. He is the LA Clippers

2024
01:47:44,920 --> 01:47:47,679
Speaker 1: and NBA writer for Clutch Sports. He's on the Java

2025
01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 1: House Peel and Poor Guest line, h Tmayor. You know,

2026
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 1: I realize that it is our job, and I hope

2027
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 1: people understand this. Just because you cover a team doesn't

2028
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 1: mean that you're going out to dinner and going clubbing

2029
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 1: with guys, right, But when you cover guys and you

2030
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:04,720
Speaker 1: cover a team and you can see a locker room,

2031
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 1: you do get a feel for personalities and just you know,

2032
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:13,280
Speaker 1: how how guys go about their business. What kind of

2033
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:16,120
Speaker 1: guy is coming to Indiana? What kind of what kind

2034
01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:17,240
Speaker 1: of dude is he?

2035
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:19,280
Speaker 10: Oh?

2036
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 7: Zoo is Zoo is a really fun, chill guy.

2037
01:48:22,360 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 10: I mean he's he's I think he lets the crack

2038
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:27,639
Speaker 10: jokes and he's great with media. Like he was phenomenal

2039
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 10: with us whenever we had a chance to talk to him.

2040
01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 7: I think once we got to.

2041
01:48:30,360 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 10: Know him better, he he gave us a lot of

2042
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:33,680
Speaker 10: you know, a lot of crap here and there, but

2043
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:35,120
Speaker 10: it was all in good fun. I think the last

2044
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:36,880
Speaker 10: thing he told me the other day when I saw

2045
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 10: him the locker room was oh.

2046
01:48:37,880 --> 01:48:38,960
Speaker 7: You got an airica look at you.

2047
01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 2: So h.

2048
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 10: He's a really cool guy, really fun guy, but a

2049
01:48:42,920 --> 01:48:44,880
Speaker 10: guy that also takes basketball very serious thing.

2050
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:47,080
Speaker 7: Is wanted wanted to win for quite some time. He's

2051
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 7: the guy who you know, I think basketball is and

2052
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 7: and you know it's clearly made a living for him.

2053
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 10: But he also when when they dealt with injuries, he's

2054
01:48:57,160 --> 01:48:59,200
Speaker 10: been just as frustrated as the guys who've been injured

2055
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:00,840
Speaker 10: because he really want a tances to win. It could

2056
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:04,360
Speaker 10: be for championship. So I mean, he just had his

2057
01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 10: newborn daughter a couple of days ago, so clearly going

2058
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 10: through a lot processing that process in the trade. So

2059
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:11,479
Speaker 10: I think it'll take some time for him to fully

2060
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,519
Speaker 10: act them into that system and into the Indianapolis community.

2061
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 7: But again, he's a great dude overall. I fully enjoyed covering.

2062
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:21,479
Speaker 10: Him over the last eight years here in Washington. Kind

2063
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:24,240
Speaker 10: of developed from this, you know, second rounder who you

2064
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:27,000
Speaker 10: know was a bench guy for the Lakers and to

2065
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:30,080
Speaker 10: a starter and All Star caliber player for the Clippers.

2066
01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:31,680
Speaker 10: So I was very fun to see that you guys

2067
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:33,680
Speaker 10: are getting a really good and really fun player and

2068
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:34,639
Speaker 10: a great personality.

2069
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:38,799
Speaker 1: Obviously great by the way, Timary, you get major props

2070
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 1: for your professionalism here for not correcting me when I

2071
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 1: said incorrectly Clutch points, right, is who you're with as

2072
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 1: an NBA writer at as I said Clutch Sports. My apologies,

2073
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:52,880
Speaker 1: Clutch Points is Tamara Zari Benedict Mathern coming there. This

2074
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:55,839
Speaker 1: is a guy that I have said, really good player

2075
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 1: and kind of a quiet guy, instant can be in

2076
01:50:00,120 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 1: an offense, and really good isolation player. It has nothing

2077
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 1: to do with anything about him as a player, as

2078
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:11,000
Speaker 1: a person that he was sent from Indiana. I just

2079
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 1: think that, you know, what they want to play didn't

2080
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:16,640
Speaker 1: necessarily jive with what he brings to the table. So

2081
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 1: that said, what will his role be with Los Angeles?

2082
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 1: And why do you believe the Clippers felt the need

2083
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:23,760
Speaker 1: to make the move?

2084
01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 10: Well, immediately after well let's start with why they felt

2085
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 10: the need to make the move.

2086
01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:29,559
Speaker 6: We'll start with that far.

2087
01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:34,320
Speaker 10: I think once you traded James Harden, they're they're really

2088
01:50:34,320 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 10: fighting for a play spot here.

2089
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:37,680
Speaker 7: But I think you really see that window to go

2090
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:37,920
Speaker 7: for a.

2091
01:50:37,960 --> 01:50:39,600
Speaker 10: Champions to kind of disappear.

2092
01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 7: I think they've been solid in the last month and

2093
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:43,519
Speaker 7: a half, but they weren't seriously going.

2094
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:45,719
Speaker 6: To be a Champions of contender this season.

2095
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 10: And so when you look at that and you look

2096
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 10: at how well Zoo has played with James Harden, the

2097
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 10: fact of the matter that I.

2098
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 7: Think this is probably the peak of his value.

2099
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 10: You probably weren't going to get much more than you

2100
01:50:57,280 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 10: got for him at the deadline with a couple of young,

2101
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:03,160
Speaker 10: good players in Isaiah Jackson, Benedict matherin the you know,

2102
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:05,680
Speaker 10: the couple of unprotected picks as well, like that was

2103
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:06,360
Speaker 10: really valuable.

2104
01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:08,720
Speaker 7: I think Indiana gave up quite a bit to get him.

2105
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 10: Obviously it's a risk, and I think if they win

2106
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 10: a championship, it's obviously worth it.

2107
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 7: But they give up quite a bit to get him.

2108
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:16,320
Speaker 7: So I think from the Clippers' perspective, if they.

2109
01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:18,280
Speaker 10: Don't feel like they're contending for a championship or even

2110
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:20,640
Speaker 10: a deep playoff run right now, it's probably best to

2111
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 10: retool and they just get assets for you know, down

2112
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:26,040
Speaker 10: the line, maybe even go off their Yannis trade or

2113
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 10: just have assets to use down the line because they

2114
01:51:28,120 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 10: haven't had much draft capital at all since the Paul

2115
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 10: George trade. So that's that angle. And then Benedic Mather,

2116
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:36,640
Speaker 10: as soon as they treated James Harden. They really you know,

2117
01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:39,640
Speaker 10: they needed to score. They needed the two guard that

2118
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:42,920
Speaker 10: could really score. You know, Darius Garland obviously can score,

2119
01:51:42,960 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 10: but you needed to a bigger body, and I think

2120
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:45,840
Speaker 10: Benedic Mather.

2121
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 7: Could provide that.

2122
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:48,640
Speaker 10: He's a guy who, if I remember correctly, was was

2123
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:50,479
Speaker 10: not playing that much in the NBA Finals. They came

2124
01:51:50,520 --> 01:51:51,720
Speaker 10: out and I think he had like a twenty or

2125
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:54,000
Speaker 10: twenty five point game and helped the Patriots win one

2126
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 10: of those big games in the finals. So a guy

2127
01:51:56,880 --> 01:51:58,840
Speaker 10: who I think is shown his ability to score and

2128
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 10: get to the pre throw line. I think that the

2129
01:52:01,120 --> 01:52:03,160
Speaker 10: key with him will be getting getting him to play

2130
01:52:03,200 --> 01:52:06,080
Speaker 10: within a system and getting him to be a you know,

2131
01:52:06,120 --> 01:52:06,639
Speaker 10: maybe not a.

2132
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:09,080
Speaker 7: Liability defensively, but be able to play with it within

2133
01:52:09,120 --> 01:52:11,800
Speaker 7: the team the team system defense, I think that that'll

2134
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:15,439
Speaker 7: be important. But there's no there's no doubt he's got a.

2135
01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:18,679
Speaker 10: Lot of talent as a score and I think Toronto

2136
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:20,559
Speaker 10: is very excited to have a guy like that on

2137
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 10: the team.

2138
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:27,040
Speaker 1: You know. Lastly, Zubots, I'm curious of this. Timayor works

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Speaker 1: so well with his spin on the low block that

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Speaker 1: he kind of needs space and so if you get

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Speaker 1: a space eating big down there. It can get into

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Speaker 1: the operating area of siakam Is Zubats the type that

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Speaker 1: can that they can move kind of clear out of

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Speaker 1: that space if you will, and still have them be

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Speaker 1: effective offensively speaking, Is there any concern with that movement

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Speaker 1: if you will?

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Speaker 7: I don't necessarily think so.

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Speaker 10: I mean Zu's got like I mentioned, he's great finishing

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Speaker 10: with his right and his left. He's really been working

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Speaker 10: on extending that that little hook shot that flopshot to

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Speaker 10: had the free throw line or of that kind of distance,

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Speaker 10: so he's capable of of of hitting the mid ray shot.

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Speaker 7: He's not a guy who's really used that.

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Speaker 10: And I think the Clippers, with how they've played han't

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Speaker 10: really needed to. But I think he is capable of

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Speaker 10: doing it.

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Speaker 7: So I don't really foresee any issues with that. And again,

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Speaker 7: you're getting a guy who's capable of.

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Speaker 10: Fitting I think, very seamlessly with some of these other

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Speaker 10: guys on their team. And then not to mention the

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Speaker 10: Kee Friendly contract astick, so I think everything just really

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Speaker 10: made sense there.

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Speaker 7: I really don't foresee any issues with getting Siaka Macum.

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Speaker 10: Actually think we're getting zoo Bot that command to playing

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Speaker 10: with a guy like Siaka, especially because can't bake the

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Speaker 10: floor out.

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Speaker 7: Zoo has become really a.

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Speaker 10: Good finisher, can can post up easily, can pass out

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Speaker 10: of double teams. He's really I think he's better than

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Speaker 10: people think he is Offensively.

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Speaker 7: I don't know how many sucksly.

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Speaker 10: Watched him, but he's pretty good offensively with the ball

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Speaker 10: and iron off the ball, so I think people will

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Speaker 10: be a little surprised to see how good.

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Speaker 1: He is at tomayr azzarly that's t O m E

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Speaker 1: r A z A r l y on the X

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Speaker 1: Post Twitter and of course at Clutch Points where you

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Speaker 1: can read his work as well covering the clippers and

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Speaker 1: if you'd like to follow what Benedict Mathern is doing

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Speaker 1: out there as well. Man, I really appreciate it, great insight,

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Speaker 1: and certainly appreciate the time today and by all means,

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Speaker 1: stay cool, don't get too hot out there in La.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 7: I'm wiping up the sweat right now, thanks for having.

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Speaker 1: Me appreciate It's on there as orely on the Java House,

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Speaker 1: Peel and Port guest line. All right, it's a Friday,

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Speaker 1: it's the bottom of the two o'clock hour, you know

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Speaker 1: what that means. It means it is time for our

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Speaker 1: Franciscan Health feel good, good for the Heart Friday. And

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Speaker 1: it's a story that will make you feel good and

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Speaker 1: happened on the South Side. We'll tell you about it

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Speaker 1: next as you know, on Friday's bottom of the two

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Speaker 1: o'clock hour, it is time for our Franciscan Health feel good,

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Speaker 1: good for the Heart Friday. Of course, this is all

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Speaker 1: coming to you in partnership with Franciscan Health to raise

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Speaker 1: awareness about cardiovascular health. We talk a lot about it,

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Speaker 1: and I have been really appreciative of everybody by into

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Speaker 1: what we're talking about. And by that I mean understanding

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Speaker 1: the importance, the importance to me to Franciscan about making

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Speaker 1: sure that you are simply taking care of your ticker.

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Speaker 1: Heart scan, easy way to do it right. Number one

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Speaker 1: in Indiana for interventional coordinary care and major cardiac surgery

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Speaker 1: by care checks. Franciscan Health with the forty nine dollars

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Speaker 1: it's very easy to do, and you can make your appointment.

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Speaker 1: You can always call make an appointment at eight three

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Speaker 1: three two three eight zero six eight eight. Jake, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to remember eight three three two three eight

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Speaker 1: zero six eight eight. I get it. If you don't

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Speaker 1: want to write down eight three three two three eight

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Speaker 1: zero six eight eight, you can A always text me

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Speaker 1: and I'll give you the information. Or b simply go

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Speaker 1: to Franciscanhealth dot org slash screening bundles, or more importantly

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Speaker 1: google Franciscan Health and heart scan and right there you

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Speaker 1: will get all of the information. And I thought about today,

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Speaker 1: and you know the story I knew I was going

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Speaker 1: to do when I was reading yesterday on the Book

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Speaker 1: of Faces, and I was reading a post from my

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Speaker 1: buddy Pat Dyer, who I've mentioned Pat on the show before.

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Speaker 1: Great dude, and you know I've gotten a no pad

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Speaker 1: a little bit over the years. And he had a

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Speaker 1: post about his son Preston. And his son Preston, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's got two children and Preston is the one of

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Speaker 1: his two children with special needs. And when he was

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Speaker 1: writing about Preston and what he said, and it really

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Speaker 1: struck a chord with me. He said, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: difficult and a challenge when you have a child with

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Speaker 1: special needs, because you know, they have their sibling that

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Speaker 1: they're friends with growing up and especially in younger years,

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01:56:57,120 --> 01:56:59,520
Speaker 1: that gives them that social outlet. But then when they

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Speaker 1: get into the school age years, especially those children with

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Speaker 1: developmental challenges or social challenges, communicative challenges like Preston has,

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Speaker 1: the one, you know, the sibling once you get into school.

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Speaker 1: Now the sibling that doesn't have some of those challenges

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Speaker 1: before them is making school friends, and they're getting invited

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Speaker 1: to baseball games, and they're part of the school play

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01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 1: and all of the things that we maybe take for

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Speaker 1: granted when we were kids. That are all just part

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Speaker 1: of adapting to and being away from home and being

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Speaker 1: away from mom and dad at school at younger years

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Speaker 1: and whatever else. And Preston and so many like him,

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01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:46,960
Speaker 1: they have their own gifts, They have their own contribution,

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01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:50,280
Speaker 1: They have their own way that they've been created and

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01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:56,400
Speaker 1: crafted in the world to make their mark, to leave

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01:57:56,560 --> 01:57:59,360
Speaker 1: their beauty on the world itself. But it doesn't always

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01:57:59,440 --> 01:58:04,000
Speaker 1: come in the traditional form that we've known. Maybe sometimes

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01:58:04,000 --> 01:58:07,680
Speaker 1: it's simply by giving a look of an appreciation, or

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Speaker 1: by accomplishing a task that might be menial to others.

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Speaker 1: But is big to them, and so you see in

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Speaker 1: that moment of victory. And that's what we talk a

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Speaker 1: lot about, and in reading Pat just talking about some

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Speaker 1: of the challenges that he and his wife have of

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Speaker 1: knowing that Preston has his own victories, but seeing maybe

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Speaker 1: even if he's unaware of it, that he doesn't get

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Speaker 1: to participate in some of the normal victories that kids do,

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Speaker 1: and grasping that and understanding the importance of seeing the

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01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:47,320
Speaker 1: triumph in all of us. Is why the story that

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01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 1: I read about and had talked with our friend Kyle

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Speaker 1: neednrip about on the air a little bit before, and

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Speaker 1: I knew that Kyle and I both were kind of

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01:58:56,280 --> 01:58:57,920
Speaker 1: made aware of this story a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking about going back to the middle of

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Speaker 1: Jayanuary January thirteenth in particular, and a game between Ron

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01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:07,480
Speaker 1: Colly and Perry Meridian and basketball, and we've all seen it.

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Speaker 1: We all know that kid. Or you go to a

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Speaker 1: game and you see a kid that gets into the

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Speaker 1: game at the end of the game and chucks up

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Speaker 1: a three when his team's up twenty five, or chucks

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Speaker 1: up a three when his team's down thirty, whatever, it

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01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:22,720
Speaker 1: might be and you're like, come on, but not Unlike say,

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Speaker 1: for the example of Preston, you never really know what

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01:59:25,680 --> 01:59:28,960
Speaker 1: the real victory is. You never really know what the

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01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 1: true meaning is behind a moment and why everybody seems

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Speaker 1: to be going above and beyond with their celebration for

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Speaker 1: a kid like Braden Collins coming in an undersized guard

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01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:43,720
Speaker 1: at Ron Colly and hitting a three from the corner.

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01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:47,040
Speaker 1: Why is everybody excited about a guy that came in

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01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:51,920
Speaker 1: and played fifty seconds in a game and hit a three? Whooped?

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01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:56,760
Speaker 1: You do? Well? Sometimes a shot from a corner is

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01:59:56,760 --> 02:00:01,600
Speaker 1: more than that. Sometimes it's a shot that actually is

2282
02:00:01,680 --> 02:00:05,040
Speaker 1: going a lot more above and beyond from nineteen feet

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Speaker 1: nine inches, like for example, Brayden who was a sophomore

2284
02:00:08,920 --> 02:00:12,160
Speaker 1: at Ron Colly into Go part of the JV basketball

2285
02:00:12,160 --> 02:00:15,000
Speaker 1: team and on his way to becoming a really solid

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02:00:15,080 --> 02:00:17,919
Speaker 1: rotation player as any kid dreams of at the varsity

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Speaker 1: level for the Royals, and the kid that really good player,

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Speaker 1: good shooter, can handle the basketball, facilitate and do a

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Speaker 1: lot of different things. And at the end of his

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02:00:29,240 --> 02:00:31,920
Speaker 1: sophomore year like most kids. In June of twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he was probably going and playing pickup ball

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02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:38,160
Speaker 1: and open gym and basketball camps. But all of a sudden,

2293
02:00:38,320 --> 02:00:44,040
Speaker 1: things just felt different. Things felt different. Stamina wasn't there,

2294
02:00:45,080 --> 02:00:49,800
Speaker 1: muscle aches and pains out of nowhere. Something seemed off.

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Speaker 1: You know what, Let's do some tests, let's find out.

2296
02:00:54,040 --> 02:00:56,160
Speaker 1: Let's make sure that we're getting you in the best

2297
02:00:56,160 --> 02:00:58,320
Speaker 1: shape you can be for your junior year and heading

2298
02:00:58,360 --> 02:01:02,240
Speaker 1: on to JV ball. So during those tests, they find

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Speaker 1: out that Braden Collins had b sell acute lymphoblastic leukemia,

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Speaker 1: which is a really fancy way of saying he was

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Speaker 1: a pretty sick young guy. And at that point basketball

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Speaker 1: becomes secondary. He got a much bigger game to play.

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Speaker 1: But you know, victory is found sometimes in the littlest

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Speaker 1: of ways, and in this case for Braden, after losing

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Speaker 1: fifty five pounds, after getting so weak that just simply

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02:01:35,080 --> 02:01:39,800
Speaker 1: dribbling a basketball became arduous, he never lost focus or

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Speaker 1: vision in the fact that the basketball team was still

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Speaker 1: his group, that was his team, and being able to

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Speaker 1: get back and be able to play with them, practice

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Speaker 1: with them, be around them. That was the simple little

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Speaker 1: victory that he was looking for. And finding the community

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Speaker 1: within his team and so he never lost sight of that.

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Speaker 1: And yes, he had to go through all of the

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Speaker 1: treatments that one has to go through and that circumstance,

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Speaker 1: and he had to never lose sight of the kind

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02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:19,000
Speaker 1: of dual aspect of maintaining his game but also maintaining

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Speaker 1: his health, the latter one being the bigger priority. But

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Speaker 1: what a benefit and a blessing to have that opportunity

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02:02:30,360 --> 02:02:34,320
Speaker 1: and to now have what is considered to be an

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Speaker 1: everyday practice victory that at one time probably would have

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02:02:38,440 --> 02:02:41,880
Speaker 1: been below what any player that's aspiring to make the

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02:02:41,960 --> 02:02:45,440
Speaker 1: varsity wants to do. But now you've simply moved the

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02:02:45,480 --> 02:02:48,200
Speaker 1: post a little bit on what truly the goal is.

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02:02:48,960 --> 02:02:51,960
Speaker 1: And that's what life is all about, sometimes finding the goal,

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Speaker 1: finding the purpose that is best for you in that moment.

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Speaker 1: You know, for most parents like Pat and his wife

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02:03:01,480 --> 02:03:05,040
Speaker 1: with Preston, initially you have goals for what your child's

2328
02:03:05,080 --> 02:03:07,520
Speaker 1: going to be in elementary school. But then you learn

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02:03:07,600 --> 02:03:12,960
Speaker 1: that sometimes nature and medicine and the body might have

2330
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Speaker 1: other ideas, and it's about finding the purpose and finding

2331
02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:19,520
Speaker 1: the little victory. And in the case of Brayden Collins,

2332
02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:21,879
Speaker 1: when he finally was able to get back and simply

2333
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:25,520
Speaker 1: be around the guys at basketball practice. That purpose came

2334
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:29,440
Speaker 1: back and so to then the reality of goal number two,

2335
02:03:29,760 --> 02:03:32,440
Speaker 1: which was to get back to the point of shooting

2336
02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:36,640
Speaker 1: baskets first free throw he took cold, barely graze the net,

2337
02:03:37,600 --> 02:03:40,280
Speaker 1: lost fifty five pounds. Wasn't the strongest guy in the world,

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Speaker 1: and think about just how much your body is depleted

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02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:49,240
Speaker 1: from B cell acute lymphoblastomic leukemia. But he never lost

2340
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Speaker 1: sight of the goal. Neither did his teammates, which is

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02:03:53,560 --> 02:03:58,280
Speaker 1: why on January thirteenth, in a blowout game, when a

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Speaker 1: kid that many would say, well, look at the pasique

2343
02:04:01,120 --> 02:04:03,640
Speaker 1: of that kid, no wonder why he's a friends JV

2344
02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:08,880
Speaker 1: varsity player gets in for fifty seconds and they find

2345
02:04:08,960 --> 02:04:11,960
Speaker 1: him in the corner. They find him in the corner,

2346
02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:17,200
Speaker 1: and he buries a three. And it's as much about

2347
02:04:17,240 --> 02:04:21,320
Speaker 1: the victory in this case for Braden as it is

2348
02:04:21,400 --> 02:04:24,960
Speaker 1: also the victory for those kids at RONKLLI, Because what

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Speaker 1: we should be teaching our kids, what we should be

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Speaker 1: thinking about ourselves, is just when athletics are going the

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Speaker 1: way that you want, just when life is going the

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Speaker 1: way that you want, just when the game plan is

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Speaker 1: going just as you thought. Sometimes it's also important to

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Speaker 1: remember that there's a kid that's simply looking for a

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Speaker 1: little victory, and it's that kid in the corner. And

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Speaker 1: when you see that kid in the corner, you kick

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Speaker 1: it over to him, and then you find out, even

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Speaker 1: with everything they've been through, they're able to bury a three.

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Speaker 1: And that's why each time you go to a game,

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Speaker 1: each time you see that kid in the corner, you

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Speaker 1: need to think about and realize the entire backstory and

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Speaker 1: the entire journey that might be putting them in that place,

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Speaker 1: and how something that you might overlook might be actually

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Speaker 1: monumental to them and to those that found them. And

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Speaker 1: I thought it was an awesome story, and I congratulate Braden,

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Speaker 1: and I congratulate Ron Colly for giving him that purpose,

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Speaker 1: and for that matter, to Pat and his wife as well,

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Speaker 1: for making sure that Preston is the kid that people

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Speaker 1: can always find in the corner. And that's what it's

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Speaker 1: all about. And I appreciate that Franciscan each and every

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Speaker 1: JMB is here. The Crossover is upcoming, brought to you

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Speaker 1: what John's got lined up on the Big Show. I

2386
02:06:20,640 --> 02:06:22,120
Speaker 1: do know he's going to talk a little about the

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Speaker 1: Pacers trade and I think a little EU as well.

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02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:29,640
Speaker 1: But we'll get into Super Bowl chat all next. Do

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Speaker 1: you think Butler in the Pacers carpooled? It's a great question.

2390
02:06:36,040 --> 02:06:39,720
Speaker 1: Cam Jones is like, I know some of the fellas, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, why not? Right? Both up there in Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: they're playing Butler on Saturday. Well, I mean, the Pacers

2393
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:52,200
Speaker 1: could have given me a right tonight, understood. Pacers give

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02:06:52,280 --> 02:06:54,520
Speaker 1: them a right up and then they just uber back. Right.

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Speaker 3: Well, you think Butler's flying or are they busting? Are they

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Speaker 3: busting to Milwaukee? I would bet they fly.

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Speaker 1: You know, it used to be in and I have

2398
02:07:03,920 --> 02:07:07,040
Speaker 1: no idea in today's world the Big ten that used

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Speaker 1: to be what was at one hundred miles? If it

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02:07:08,640 --> 02:07:11,680
Speaker 1: was one hundred miles that you had to bus. Purdue

2401
02:07:11,800 --> 02:07:14,000
Speaker 1: used to always stop at the beef house on their

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02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:17,000
Speaker 1: way to play Illinois or on their way back. I

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02:07:17,040 --> 02:07:19,440
Speaker 1: mean that was always a thing Indiana. I think bus

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Speaker 1: to Illinois as well. I'd like to think that they

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02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:28,360
Speaker 1: all carpooled. Now, Eddie, when you were on the baseball team,

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Speaker 1: for example, did you guys ride front of the bus,

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Speaker 1: back of the bus.

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Speaker 3: Players were in the back, coaches were in the front.

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Speaker 1: Now did you get your own seat?

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Speaker 7: Ah?

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I mean all the high jinks that go on,

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Speaker 1: you know, fun stuff, right, I'd like to think that

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Speaker 1: they just take big school buses up there be fun. Okay,

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Speaker 1: give me your Super Bowl predicted score.

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Speaker 3: Predicted score, I've got Seahawks twenty eight to ten.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I hope you're right. I would you know, Seattle's

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02:08:03,360 --> 02:08:11,640
Speaker 1: interesting because the Seahawks have been a surprisingly I mean,

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02:08:11,960 --> 02:08:15,360
Speaker 1: a really solid franchise now for the whole twenty the

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02:08:15,400 --> 02:08:18,120
Speaker 1: two thousands, right, you don't think of it as such,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, this is what They're third Super Bowl appearance?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Right? Fourth? They they obviously lost to Pittsburgh

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02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:35,080
Speaker 1: and then they've won. They beat Denver and they beat

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Speaker 1: New England. Right, so this they're fourth. I mean, that's

2424
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Speaker 1: it's impressive when you all like kind of under different regimes,

2425
02:08:42,080 --> 02:08:44,800
Speaker 1: and I mean, that's a solid run. And I've always

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Speaker 1: kind of liked them. I mean, I guess I would

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Speaker 1: go so far as to say they're my NFC team,

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Speaker 1: if that sounds weird, I've always liked them. I've got

2429
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Speaker 1: a lot of Seahawks merch just because I love their

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02:08:56,720 --> 02:09:02,320
Speaker 1: color scheme. But I worry about it a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I think I think New England and Mike verbal, I

2432
02:09:07,920 --> 02:09:11,720
Speaker 1: know it's verable defensively, I think they're going to hang

2433
02:09:11,760 --> 02:09:17,560
Speaker 1: and I think May is pretty precise. I'm gonna say upset.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say upset, and I'll go twenty three twenty

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Speaker 1: one New England wins. I hope I'm wrong, but that's

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Speaker 1: what I think. John has arrived, Jamie, what's on the

2437
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Speaker 1: big show? You know what? I got some of the

2438
02:09:28,440 --> 02:09:30,760
Speaker 1: green tea from Java House and it worked, wonders.

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Speaker 8: I've been here since ten am, and I think I

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02:09:33,080 --> 02:09:39,960
Speaker 8: want to jump off the roof. Seriously, I think I

2441
02:09:40,040 --> 02:09:41,720
Speaker 8: may swan dive off the roof.

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Speaker 1: What have you been doing for five hours?

2443
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Speaker 8: I have set out in either that seat there or

2444
02:09:47,120 --> 02:09:49,360
Speaker 8: that other seat down there. I've fallen asleep in front

2445
02:09:49,360 --> 02:09:51,200
Speaker 8: of that computer out there like five times.

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Speaker 1: I've fall asleep in front of this one like an

2447
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Speaker 1: hour ago.

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Speaker 8: I hooped last night until eleven o'clock, so I was

2449
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Speaker 8: a little bit tired anyway. So but no, it's all good.

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Speaker 8: I get a question for you. Do we know yet

2451
02:10:02,640 --> 02:10:08,360
Speaker 8: we're approaching carb day music right entertainment time? We got

2452
02:10:08,360 --> 02:10:11,920
Speaker 8: any ideas they going low ball things? And listen, this

2453
02:10:12,000 --> 02:10:15,120
Speaker 8: is not Doug Bowles's fault. I know whose fault this is.

2454
02:10:15,200 --> 02:10:17,280
Speaker 8: I mean, Doug wants the best for it. But are

2455
02:10:17,280 --> 02:10:19,400
Speaker 8: we going low ball things this year? Let's get some

2456
02:10:19,440 --> 02:10:20,760
Speaker 8: balls and heard.

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02:10:21,160 --> 02:10:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do know this. I do know that twenty

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Speaker 1: years ago they had Oasis to a verbal agreement and

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Speaker 1: then at the eleventh hour Oasis backed out. Can you imagine

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02:10:32,920 --> 02:10:36,480
Speaker 1: that would have been a bigger deal in England than here? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, can you imagine would people coming up from bless

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Speaker 8: you from southwestern Indiana coming up from Green County dig

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Speaker 8: on oasis?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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02:10:47,800 --> 02:10:51,360
Speaker 1: I love your gallaghers. What's hey? Can you boys? Fuck

2466
02:10:52,400 --> 02:10:54,400
Speaker 1: you boys? Fun? That's actually what they would have liked

2467
02:10:54,400 --> 02:10:56,160
Speaker 1: the most about it, right, They probably got to fight.

2468
02:10:56,520 --> 02:10:58,720
Speaker 1: What would your guests be? This was always a fun game.

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02:10:59,280 --> 02:11:01,920
Speaker 1: Who would your guess be? Well?

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Speaker 8: Last year, what was what Brett Michaels, who was really good?

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Speaker 1: Probably all American rejects there? All American rejects was was

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Speaker 1: the other one? What about Puddle of Mud? Would you

2473
02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:14,080
Speaker 1: like them?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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02:11:14,880 --> 02:11:17,240
Speaker 1: Well that guy can't stay on jail, you know.

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Speaker 5: He?

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Speaker 1: Uh well, I probably shouldn't get into the story.

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02:11:21,720 --> 02:11:24,520
Speaker 8: Wes Scandalon is the lead singer, right, Yeah, I've got

2479
02:11:24,520 --> 02:11:28,240
Speaker 8: a pretty interesting background story with that clown. He needs

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02:11:28,240 --> 02:11:30,560
Speaker 8: his ass whip, but I think he normally gets into

2481
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:32,760
Speaker 8: whipped in prison because that's where he is all the time.

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Speaker 8: That's right, But no, Puddle of MUD's probably what we're

2483
02:11:37,920 --> 02:11:39,480
Speaker 8: talking about right there.

2484
02:11:39,600 --> 02:11:40,800
Speaker 1: Has letting Biscuit done it?

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02:11:41,400 --> 02:11:44,200
Speaker 8: Lit Biscuit has not done it that would go over large,

2486
02:11:44,400 --> 02:11:49,600
Speaker 8: especially since Durst is now more of like a scholarly grandfather.

2487
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Speaker 1: That bek Biscuits.

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02:11:51,080 --> 02:11:52,840
Speaker 8: Well, and I know Doug told me last year that

2489
02:11:52,840 --> 02:11:55,640
Speaker 8: they wanted to start moving into maybe the two thousands,

2490
02:11:55,680 --> 02:11:59,560
Speaker 8: So start thinking two thousand span. What about Foster the people,

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02:11:59,640 --> 02:12:01,880
Speaker 8: Do they do anything anymore? Well, that's a good I

2492
02:12:01,880 --> 02:12:03,320
Speaker 8: mean that probably won't be though.

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02:12:03,480 --> 02:12:07,240
Speaker 1: Okay, what about did they have three doors down at

2494
02:12:07,240 --> 02:12:09,840
Speaker 1: one point three? They've had three doors down there before?

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02:12:10,000 --> 02:12:14,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, that would be Third Eye Blind, Third Eye Blind Stevens.

2496
02:12:14,800 --> 02:12:16,800
Speaker 1: I think Third Eye Blind has been there before too.

2497
02:12:17,200 --> 02:12:20,800
Speaker 8: How about this, there's an offshoot that's Touring of Stone

2498
02:12:20,800 --> 02:12:24,040
Speaker 8: Temple pilots. Obviously without Scott Wiland. That'd be the trick

2499
02:12:24,080 --> 02:12:27,880
Speaker 8: to have Scott Wiland. But without Scott Wiland, maybe something

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02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:28,280
Speaker 8: like that.

2501
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Speaker 1: Maybe I thought they had them at one time, didn't they.

2502
02:12:31,080 --> 02:12:33,640
Speaker 8: They had them with Wiland and it was probably one

2503
02:12:33,680 --> 02:12:36,080
Speaker 8: of the better ones. It just rained right out there

2504
02:12:36,160 --> 02:12:36,520
Speaker 8: that day.

2505
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Speaker 1: I'll go with Limp Biscuit. Eddie's wrapping us John.

2506
02:12:40,680 --> 02:12:42,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, Bobby Box is going to explain a little bit

2507
02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:44,240
Speaker 8: more of the zoo BOTX deal. We got to get

2508
02:12:44,240 --> 02:12:47,200
Speaker 8: into the weekend of college basketball, and uh, do we

2509
02:12:47,240 --> 02:12:48,960
Speaker 8: have to say big game or can we say super Bowl?

2510
02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:51,920
Speaker 1: I think we say super Bowl, super Bowl and stuffickimp

2511
02:12:52,120 --> 02:12:54,560
Speaker 1: all right coming up, Jamie's up next. We'll be back

2512
02:12:54,560 --> 02:13:00,160
Speaker 1: with you at again. Reminder, they will call heads, they

2513
02:13:00,160 --> 02:13:02,600
Speaker 1: will call tales. It will landheads. Winning team will defer

2514
02:13:03,040 --> 02:13:05,280
Speaker 1: and Patriots win. We'll talk to you Monday noon. Thanks

2515
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Speaker 1: for listening to a quiring company.