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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. When an NFL team is considering

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Speaker 2: is not really any level of debate. Tony Katz. Tony

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Speaker 2: Kats say, good to be here, good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: And there's a couple of things going on in the

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Speaker 2: NFL regarding this exact thing. You've got the Paul Allen

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Speaker 2: Paul Allen passed away in twenty eighteen, and so now

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Speaker 2: they're going down this road. Lord only knows what this

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Speaker 2: story that's been consuming the Midwest is the idea of

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Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears moving to a place called Hammond, Indiana,

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Speaker 2: which took a huge step forward today. Massive they've been

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Speaker 2: trying to create a better deal with Illinois, try to

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Speaker 2: Bears said, all right, we'll call your bluff. Hey, Indiana,

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Speaker 2: and they didn't give up the farm and the cities

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Speaker 2: legislation Centerfil twenty seven, the Bear said, quote, we are

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Speaker 2: committed to finishing the remaining site specific necessary due diligence

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Speaker 2: to support our vision to build a world class stadium

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Speaker 2: near the Wolf Lake area in Hammond, Indiana. This is

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Speaker 2: not a fatal compley, it's not a done deal, but

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Speaker 2: holy cow, that's a step forward. JMV joins me right now.

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Speaker 2: He is the voice of sports in Indiana ninety three

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Speaker 2: If you live in Indiana, it's a nutty year. Possibly,

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Speaker 2: if you live in Chicago, you're a you're a fan,

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Speaker 2: right You're you're a Bears fan. Do you care where

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Speaker 1: I would think that most, especially those up in the

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Speaker 1: Just how mammoth that is right now where you know

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Speaker 1: Well, it's funny too, because most of new stadiums Tony

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Speaker 2: I have not heard from any Bears players about this,

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Speaker 1: I do wonder Tony, you and I had thought about

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Speaker 1: this before. I kind of wonder how Carly URSA. Gordon

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Speaker 1: But I will say this, Tony, You've had for a

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Speaker 1: right now Tony, to be quite honest, but he's probably

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Speaker 1: more ego than I guess anything else. But ultimately, when

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure that's exactly how Indiana leadership right now

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Speaker 1: You know, that's something that is probably going to be

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Speaker 2: Talking to JMV. He is the voice of sports in

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Speaker 2: let's let's move it off of this possible move and

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Speaker 2: let's move it into the NBA where we have the

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Speaker 2: Tony so we look at the you don't see anybody

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Speaker 2: talking about my Indiana Pacers. I'm talking about now teams

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Cleveland's going to be interesting to watch, Tony,

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Speaker 1: because you bring in James Harden and you finish, you're

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Speaker 1: disappointment of a year agoing Really, they've had a lot

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Speaker 1: Conference right now, you have more of Detroit that is set.

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Speaker 1: You feel good about that. The Knicks that are set,

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Speaker 1: without Jason Tatum, you feel good about to sell they

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Speaker 1: But if there's going to be one team that your

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Speaker 1: eyeball in the Eastern Conference that maybe we haven't talked

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Speaker 1: about in a long time since the days of Alonzo

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Speaker 1: Morning and Larry Johnson would probably be that of the

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Speaker 1: Charlotte Hornets making a move being a surprise in the

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference postseason picture this year.

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Speaker 2: Jam V the voice of sports in Indiana and around

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Speaker 2: the nation, taking the time to be with us. Morris

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Speaker 2: coming up. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today,